Jafar As-Sadiq and Jaber Ibn Hayyan by liamei12345


									      Jafar As-Sadiq
   and Jaber Ibn Hayyan
        Imam Jafar Sadiq (as)
Reference: The Great Muslim Scientist
          and Philosopher,
            Jafar As-Sadiq
   Imam encouraged discussions
• Imam Sadiq was the first Muslim scholar who
  encouraged debates and discussions on
  different subjects between himself and his
  students and among students themselves.
• During later periods this became a normal
  practice in all Muslim schools particularly in
  the Shia schools.
            Jaber ibn Hayyan
• One of his students was Jaber ibn-Hayyan. He
  is known in the West as ‘Geber’.
• Jaber studied from Imam Sadiq (as) and later
  went on to become a prominent Shia scientist.
• Jaber is more popularly referred to as the
  ‘father of chemistry’.
• The name Algebra is also derived from the
  name of Jaber.
        Everything is in motion
• Jaber ibn Hayyan used to have long
  discussions with his teacher.
• One day when the Imam was teaching
  philosophy, the Imam said that everything in
  the universe is in motion.
• Jaber asked: “Are you sure that everything in
  the universe is in motion?”
• “Yes I am sure.” replied Imam Sadiq.
• Jaber asked: “Does the sound have motion?”
• Imam said: “Yes it has. But the speed of sound
  is slower than the speed of light. You see from
  a distance the sledge of an ironsmith falling on
  his anvil and hear the sound afterwards. It is
  because light waves, which travel faster, reach
  your eyes first and then the slow moving
  sound waves afterwards.”
              Speed of sound
• Jaber asked: “Can you tell me the speed of
• Imam Sadiq replied: “Archimedes, the Greek
  philosopher, who measured the speed of
  sound, said that if a man is 400 zira (1 zira=40
  inches) away from the source of sound, he
  would hear it after 8 seconds. The greater the
  distance, the longer it will take to reach him.”
             Allah is everywhere
• Jaber said: “According to the theory of Archmides it
  would take thousands of years for the prophets to hear
  the voice of Allah, who is on the other side of the 7th
• Imam replied: “O Jaber, it has been said that He is
  beyond the 7th sky to impress upon the common
  people the Greatness of Allah, otherwise, He is
  everywhere. When he wanted to talk to his prophets,
  He was so near that His voice was heard immediately
  and clearly.”
• Imam said: “Even if he was beyond the 7th sky His
  prophets would have heard Him immediately, since His
  voice is not like the voice of his creatures. Allah, who
  created the universe only by saying ‘Let it be’ had no
  problem communicating with His Prophets.”
     Universe created in 6 stages
• Jaber asked: “Was the universe created in an
  instant? It is said that it was created in 6 days.”
• Imam Sadiq replied: “The universe was
  created, but was transformed into its present
  form in a very long time. In the beginning it
  was certainly not as it is today. The 6 days of
  Allah, mentioned in the Quran, are not like our
  6 days. The universe came into its present
  form in 6 stages or 6 periods.”
           Allah is in everything
• Jaber asked: “When you say that Allah is
  everywhere, it means that He is in everything.
  Therefore, those who say that Allah and his
  creations are one, are correct? In other words, if
  we believe that He is everything, we must admit
  that every plant, animal, stone and star is Allah.”
• Imam said: “You are wrong. Allah is in the plants,
  animals, stones and stars, but they are not Allah.
  Just as the oil and the wick are in the lamp to
  produce light, but they are not the lamp.”
   No one has the power of Allah
• “If it true that everything is Allah, then
  everything must have the power of Allah. Can
  those who claim that everything is Allah
  produce only by saying, “Let it be” even one
  grain of sand or create from a drop of liquid a
  human being?”
    Analogy of Islamic principles
• The discussion then moved on.
• Imam Sadiq said: “O Jaber, do you see the
  drawing on the wall? It is a well drawn
  beautiful geometrical figure. You get pleasure
  from looking at it. Not because you have the
  knowledge of mathematics and can appreciate
  its flawless geometry. But even children will
  be delighted to see it.”
• “The basic principles of Islam are in the same
 Common people cannot understand
     the logic of Islamic rules
• Jaber understood and said “Common people
  do not understand the truth of our religious
  principles and do not know they are perfect.
  That is why I persuade them to educate
  themselves, and increase their knowledge.”
  Scientific theories are for scientists
• Then Jaber asked: “Was it not better if the
  rationale behind Islamic principles was
  explained in simple terms ?”
• Imam replied: “Scientists and philosophers
  have to prove their theories by reason and
  logic so that they may be accepted by other
  scientists and philosophers.”
• “They are not concerned with common
  people, who cannot and will not understand
     Islamic principles are for all
• “However, religion is different from science
  and philosophy.”
• “Doctrines of our religion were communicated
  in simple terms so that they could be
  understood by everyone. But it was not
  explained why they were sent.”
• “Allah had chosen our Prophet to spread Islam
  among all people. It was not sent for the
  intellectuals only, who would not have
  accepted anything, which was not proved by
      Acquiring knowledge leads to
• “Our Prophet expressed the doctrines of religion
  simply so that they could be understood by all,
  but he did not give the reasons as to why they
  are imposed as then the common people would
  not have understood them.”
• “Those who have brains can find out themselves
  why theses principles are formulated.”
• “But development of brain depends upon the
  acquisition of knowledge.”
• “Thus, those who wish to understand the
  reasoning behind Islamic principles need to
  acquire knowledge as this will develop their
• “But those who cannot understand them, should
  Everyone cannot acquire sufficient
• “It requires strong determination, persevance
  and hard work to acquire sufficient knowledge
  in order to find out the need for following the
  rules of Islam.”
• “Common people cannot afford to that. They
  have to work, earn their living and support
  their families. They can thus engage
  themselves in trade and agriculture and learn
  only the fundamental and secondary rules of
    Talk to people according to their
• Imam said: “Your concept of heaven and hell
  is quite different from that of an illiterate
• “If you try to explain to him what you
  understand by these terms, you will confuse
  him and make his faith shaky.”
• “That is why it is better to talk to people
  according to their intelligence.”
  Imam Ali invented Arabic grammar
• “When the Quran was sent, there was a
  possibility that common people may
  misunderstand the meaning of the verses if
  they did not read them correctly. That is why
  my grandfather, Ali ibn Abi Talib invented
  Arabic grammer.”
  Importance of following the Imams
• Jaber said: “It is a pity that many people do
  not understand the purpose, need and
  necessity of following Islamic doctrines and do
  not understand the deeper meaning of
  Quranic verses.”
• Imam Sadiq said: “This is the case with every
  religion. Only a limited number of people
  understood quite well the laws of their
  religion. These people became the leaders of
  religion and the rest had to obey them.”
• “The religion of Islam is similar. Only a handful
            Rasikhuna fil Ilm
• Regarding the mutashabihat verses, Allah swt
  in verse 3:7 has said:
  And none knows its interpretation, save only
     God and those firmly rooted in knowledge
                 (rasikhuna fil Ilm)
• They are none other than the Prophet and his
  Ahlul Bayt.
• It is narrated that Imam Sadiq said: “We are
  the rasikhuna fil ilm and we know the tawil.”
  [Tafsir Nur Thaqalain]
         Quran and Ahlul Bayt
• In the well known Hadith Thaqlain, the
  Prophet said: “Whoso remains attached to the
  Quran and my Ahlul Bayt will never go astray
  because these two weighty things will never
  be separated from each other until they reach
  me at the spring of Kauthar.”
• And: “I am the city of knowledge and Ali is its
  gate. Allah Almighty says that we should enter
  the house through the gates. So whoever
  wishes to seek knowledge should come

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