Will you still need me
when I’m 64?
Strategy for Older People
What we need to do?
• Review what has happened during the last phase of
the Strategy for Older People in Wales
• Set the direction for phase 3 (2013-2018)
…and we need your help!
The journey so far…
• Two Strategy Phases
• Structure building
• The first ever…
The building blocks
National Older People’s Third Sector Local
Partnership Commissioner including Care Implementation
Forum for Wales and Repair in every area
50+ population in Wales – 38% and growing…
Where are we now?
• New Government
• Commitment to the Strategy
for Older People in Wales in
Sustainable Social Services
• Focus on delivery
‘While partnership is essential, we must avoid a
culture of meetings and strategy production’
(Carl Sargeant, June 2011)
The same yet constantly changing
• The older population of Wales stands at around 38% and rising!
Some issues remain important New issues are drawing into
and need attention focus and demanding increased
• Age discrimination
• Sustained reduced
• Demographic change expenditure and its
consequences e.g. regionalism
• Legal drivers •Digital inclusion
• Financial management
• Rising expectations in Wales
• Sexual health and substance
Question 1: 94% of people in Wales thought
that people aged over 65 should be allowed
to work. How many thought a person aged
over 70 would be a suitable primary teacher?
D 30% 7
C C – 50%
D D 8
Question 2: Chlamydia cases rose by
what percentage in people aged 45-64
D 93% 9
C C – 72%
D D 10
Question 3: According to UK Government
projections what percentage of the
population will be 100 or over in 2080?
A – 0.7%
B – 1.7%
C – 17%
D – 27% 11
C C – 17% (over 660,000)
D D 12
Question 4: Through taxes, spending power,
the provision of social care and the value of
volunteering, how much did older people
contribute to the Welsh economy in 2010?
D £1bn 13
D D - £1bn (£2.9m every day)
And…our point is
That older people are anything and everything and are
impossible to homogenise!
So we went and talked to older people…
We developed a survey with our partners and we went to the
National Eisteddfod in Wrexham.
• What is the best thing that Welsh Government has done so far for
• What services do you use and how would you like to see them
• How has the current economic situation affected you?
• How do you think the current financial climate will affect future
• If you could tell the Welsh Government one thing they could do
today to make your tomorrow better – What would that be?
What have people told us so far?
I have experienced age I consider my bus pass
discrimination in the as a bar of 110% gold…
workplace where older
people are seen as a Look after
drain on resources young
Stroke on Sunday.
Discharged on Tuesday.
We need to build more Husband in a nursing home
affordable housing and no-one to care for her
What has the Government ever done for us?
• Bus pass
• Free prescriptions
• Maximum charge for home care services
• Establish an Older People’s Commissioner
• Free swimming
• The Strategy for Older People
• Free entry to museums and historic attractions
• ‘Not a lot’
• ‘Unaware of anything’
This question was particularly interesting as many respondents
initially said that they do not use any services.
This is a sample of what people said:
• concern about health and care provision – particularly in
relation to waiting lists
• need to keep local facilities from shops and libraries to toilets
and visible policing
• better transport provision and more joined up transport services
The Economic Situation
It is clear that any future work on ageing will need to recognise the
current economic climate and era of reduced public expenditure.
These questions generated significant response and debate. People
told us that:
• Young people should be a priority and that there is genuine
concern for future generations
• Prices are rising far too quickly
• Increasing isolation particularly in rural areas
• A significant minority said that the current economic climate had
not affected them.
From fluffy to delivery
• Making the shift to examine what we are practically doing to
improve the lives of older people in Wales.
• That little bit of help!
• Looking at options to identify how we do this.
The Strategy Coordinators have been trained on
Results/Outcomes Based Accountability
We are continuing to ask older people what they want – the
‘blank paper’ consultation
• Recognising that there are issues emerging in priority such as
financial inclusion, digital inclusion, new health issues, dignity and
How old is old…
‘Although there are many who think that ageing begins at 40,
50 or 60, we are learning that the underpinning mechanisms of
ageing play out their mischief throughout the life course…The
damage that will undermine our health, vitality and level of
independence in later life has been accumulating since we were
in the womb…’ (Professor Tom Kirkwood, Just Ageing?, 2010)
Play your cards right
• Males – 77 years
• Females – 82 years
HIGHER – 83.5 years on average for all
Source – NPHS and South Wales Echo
Over ten years LOWER – 71.9 years on average for all
Source – NPHS and South Wales Echo
The West End, Glasgow
HIGHER - 80 years on average for all
Source – Centre for Social Justice
Carlton – The East End, Glasgow
LOWER – on the other side of the city life
expectancy is 53.8 years for men
Source – The Guardian, 2010
HIGHER – Life expectancy for females is above 70
Source – World Health Organisation
Rhyl West, Denbighshire
LOWER - in this ward on the North Wales coast, life
expectancy is 63.8 years for men
Source: UK Parliament Data
Much HIGHER – Five miles away in Bodelwyddan.
Females have a life expectancy of over 90. Furthermore
ONS predictions suggest that a girl born there today will
live on average to almost 99 years.
Source - ONS
Small distances, big differences
Source – Office for National Statistics
What does this tell us?
Should we reconsider the scope?
People have a long
life expectancy here
performed 180% better than
in another part of the city
People are nine times
more likely to be
burgled here than in The rates of those
other parts of the city claiming Jobseekers
Allowance is 25 times
1 in 8 babies born higher here than in
School absence rates here are underweight. other areas.
are three times higher In other areas in less
here than other areas than 1 in 100.
The review process
‘stop pitting generations against each other’
It will be driven from the bottom up and be rooted in the voices of
Please assist us in this process. Are you aged 50+ or do you know
people aged 50 and above? Please take a survey.
Do you work with older people? We would be more than happy to
share our findings with you following our analysis.
Please look out for our consultation on the review and the forward
phase next Spring.
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029 2082 3460