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                                       TC/TG/TRG MINUTES COVER SHEET
TC/TG/TRG NO.:   TC 8.01                                                                                DATE: February 13, 2005
TC/TG/TRG TITLE: Positive Displacement Compressors
DATE OF MEETING: June 27, 2004                                                                          LOCATION: Nashville, TN

 MEMBERS PRESENT                  YEAR       MEMBERS ABSENT                       YEAR        EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS AND
                                  APPTD                                           APPTD       ADDITIONAL ATTENDANCE

 Tom Barratt                         01      Preben Christiansen                     00       Forrest Yount
 Alex Leyderman                      00      Al Domingorena                          01       John Gallaher
 John Tolbert                        01      John Davis                              02       Tino Mendez
 Curt Slayton                        03      James Mangini                           03       Phillip Johnson
 Ward Wells                          03      Richard Hall                            03       Chris Seeton
 Jerry Wurm                          03      Hermann Renz                            01
 Al Domingorena                      01      Sami Zendah                             03
 Mike Wegenka                        03
                                             Corresponding Members
                                             Charles Arnold
 Corresponding Members                       Rick Bunch
 Georgi Kazachki                             Raymond Cohen
 Dan Manole                                  Scott Danhof
 John O’Brien                                Alexander Domijan
                                             Adi Hago Elnwairi
                                             Laercio Hardt
                                             Richard Hayter
                                             Tom Jensen
                                             Larry Kettwich
                                             Norm Maxwell
                                             William McQuade
                                             William Miller
                                             Joe Pillis
                                             Joe Nigro
                                             Akira Outsuki
                                             Presanta Roy
                                             Donald Schaeffer
                                             Glenn Short
                                             Rajendra Singh
                                             Lars Sjoholm
                                             Carl Speich
                                             Stephen Spletzer
                                             David Steinbarger
                                             William Tinsley
                                             Robert Utter

DISTRIBUTION:

ALL MEMBERS OF TC/TG/TRG
TAC CHAIRMAN:                             Aurthur McIvor
TAC SECTION HEAD:                         Eckhard Groll
LIAISONS:
 Programs:                       Auther Garbarino                  Tega:                            William Klock
 Journal/Insights:               Kimball Furguson                  Special Publications             Marilyn Listvan
 Standards:                      Brian Doughtery                   Staff Liaison – Tech Services:   Michael Vaughn
 Handbook (2006 Refrigeration)   Florentino Mendez                 Staff Liaison – Standards:       Claire Ramspeck
 Research:                       Tom Kuehn                         ALI Liaison:                     Julian Debullett
                                        ASHRAE TC/TG/TRG ACTIVITIES SHEET

DATE: September 28, 2011                                                                           MEETING DATE: June 27, 2004

TC/TG/TRG NO.:        TC 8.01                                                     TC/TG/TRG TITLE: Positive Displacement Compressors

CHAIR: Georgi Kazachki (acting for Richard Hall)     VICE CHAIR: Georgi Kazachki                        SECRETARY: Forrest Yount

 TC/TG/TRG MEETING SCHEDULE

 Location-Past 12 Months                             Date             Location-Planned Next 12 Months                   Date

 Anaheim, CA                                         Jan. 2004        Orlando, FL                                       Feb. 2005
 Kansas City, MO                                     July 2003        Denver, CO                                        June 2005


 TC/TG/TRG SUBCOMMITTEES

                     Function                                         Chairman
                     Programs                                         Dan Manole
                     Research                                         Jaroslav Wurm
                     Standards                                        Jack O'Brien
                    Handbook                                          Sami Zendah
                   Membership                                         Richard Hall
 RESEARCH PROJECTS - CURRENT
                                                                                    Monitoring Comm.        Report Made At
 Project Title                                        Contractor
                                                                                    Chairman                Meeting

 WP 1253 – “Measurement of Solubility, Viscosity,     Imagination Resources         Curt Slayton            Yes
 and Density of R125/143a (R507 series)
 Refrigerant/Lubricant Mixtures,” sponsored
 jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 3.4

 LONG RANGE RESEARCH PLAN

  Rank     Title                                      Work Statement                Approved by TC          To R&T for Approval
                                                      Written




 HANDBOOK RESPONSIBILITIES

 Year & Volume          Chapter   Title                          No     Deadline          Handbook Subcommittee Liaison
 2004 Systems and       34 Compressors                                 Approved for      Ronald Davis, 2004 Handbook Liaison
 Equipment              38 Liquid Chilling Systems                     publication

 2006 Refrigeration     46 Dehumidification, Charging and              Revision          Sami Zendah, Subcommittee Chair
                        Factory Testing                                process           Florentino Mendez, 2006 Handbook
                                                                       started           Liaison




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STANDARDS ACTIVITIES – List and Describe Subjects

Standard 41.9-2000, Calorimeter Test Methods for Mass Flow Measurement of Volatile Refrigerants: TC 8.01 voted to reaffirm
this standard at Kansas City (July 2004)

Standard 41.10-2003, Flowmeter Test Methods for Mass Flow Measurement of Volatile Refrigerants: Published in 2003

Standard 23-1993R, Method of Testing for Rating, Positive Displacement Compressors and Condensing Units: Public Review
was completed in February 2004. Publication is the next step.

SPC 179P, Method of Test for Life Testing Positive Displacement Refrigerant Compressors: First committee meeting held in
Nashville (June 2004)

At the Kansas City Meeting, TC 8.01 proposed that ASHRAE create a new standard titled, “Method of Test for Rating
Compressors and Condensing Units that Operate on Supercritical Refrigerants.” ASHRAE will probably announce this new
SPC before the Nashville meeting. TC 8.01 will recommend Dan Manole to Chair this new SPC.

TECHNICAL PAPERS from Sponsored Research-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

Planned for January 2005, Measurement of Solubility, Viscosity, and Density of R125/143a (R507 series) Refrigerant/Lubricant
Mixtures following the completion of the present research work (WP 1253)
TC/TG Sponsored Symposia-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

None

TC/TG Sponsored Seminars-Title when present (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

“Compressors in CO2 Transcritical Systems,” sponsored by TC 8.01, January 2004
“Lubricants for Alternative Refrigerants,” sponsored jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 3.4, January 2003
“Modulation Techniques for Compressors,” sponsored jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 8.11, January 2003
“Lubricants for Alternative Refrigerants,” sponsored jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 3.4, January 2002
“Modulation Techniques for Compressors,” sponsored jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 8.11, January 2002
“Tribological Considerations in Compressor Design, Part II,” sponsored jointly by TC 8.01 and TC 3.4, January 2002

TC/TG Sponsored Forums-Title, when presented (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

“Should ASHRAE Have a Method of Test Standard for Rating Compressors that Operate on Supercritical Refrigerants?” June,
2003
“Should ASHRAE Have a Method of Test Standard for Compressor Life Tests?” January, 2003


JOURNAL PUBLICATIONS, when published (past 3 yrs. present & planned)

None


                                                                                              Submitted By: Forrest Yount




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                                    MEETING MINUTES

                TC 8.01 – POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT COMPRESSORS

                                Nashville, TN – June 27, 2004

The TC 8.01 meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Georgi Kazachki who acted as Chair
because Rick Hall was absent due to a death in the family. Handout materials were distributed at
the outset of the meeting.

For 2004, TC 8.01 has 11 Voting Members plus 2 International Members who have voting
privileges whenever they are able to attend the committee meetings, but their absence does not
negatively affect the quorum. A quorum of Voting Members was established – 8 of 11 Voting
Members.

Minutes from the last meeting, June 2003 – Kansas City, were distributed. TC 8.01 voted to
accept the minutes by show of hands (8-0) after a few revisions were incorporated.



                               SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS

Programs

Dan Manole, Programs Subcommittee Chair led the discussion for potential forums and seminars
for the Orlando meeting. Package deadline for Orlando Meeting is 06 August 2004. Members
are encouraged to identify papers for Orlando.

      Forum topic, “What kills compressors-what should a life test standard look like?” was
       suggested.
      A motion was approved to sponsor seminar topic “Commercial and Residential
       Applications with Natural Refrigerants” for the Orlando meeting.
      A motion was approved to co-sponsor with TC 3.4 seminar topic “Can lubricants reduce
       compressor noise?” for Orlando or Denver.
      Possible future seminar topic, “Admissable Oil Systems” was suggested. Contact Chris
       Seeton.

Research

Jerry Wurm, Research Committee Chair, informed committee that RTAR format has changed
and is available on the ASHRAE website. Only 17 of 47 RTAR’s submitted were approved. Of
those 17, only 14 were listed as a priority.

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RTAR, “Thermophysical and Thermodynamical Properties of CO2/Lubricant Mixtures,” to be
potentially co-sponsored with TC 3.1 – Refrigerants and Secondary Coolants and TC 3.4 –
Lubrication. TAC Section 8 Head, Eckhard Groll volunteered to write RTAR for research
committee review for August submission.

ASHRAE’s deadline for RTARs is August 1, 2004 for approval in October 2004 (ASHRAE only
approves research proposals annually). Work statement deadline is 15 December 2004 for
approval January 2005. Bids will be requested during the first quarter of 2005. Submit WS direct
to Tom Kuehn (U of M) RL8@ashrae.org.

ASHRAE’s deadline for Service to Research Award is September 30, 2004.


Standards

Jack O’Brien, Standards Subcommittee Chair, reported that:
    Standard 23, Method of Testing for Rating, Positive Displacement Compressors and
       Condensing Units, has been completed and submitted to ASHRAE for publication.
    SPC 179P, Methods of Test for Life Testing Positive Displacement Refrigerant
       Compressors, expressed a need for international members. Georgi Kazachki agreed to
       send a letter on behalf of TC 8.01 requesting international participation. Alex Leyderman
       volunteered to provide input for defining reliability testing.


Handbook

Tino Mendez, our 2006 Refrigeration Handbook Liaison, described the process for revising our
chapters in the Refrigeration Handbook. TC 8.01 must approve the final draft of the revisions no
later than at the Denver meeting in June 2005. Final submission is due August 2005. Chapter
46 “: Dehumidification, Charging and Factory Testing” will have the final draft at Orlando
meeting for approval at the Denver meeting.

Membership

Forrest Yount of Carrier – Charlotte request to replace Jim Mangini as secretary was
unanimously approved.

Phillip Johnson of Carrier-Charlotte requested committee membership.




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Webmaster

ASHRAE has increased the available space on the website for each committee to 40 MB. Dan
Manole volunteered to contact Mike Vaughn to request more information concerning the website
hosting.

OLD BUSINESS         None.

NEW BUSINESS         None.

ADJOURN       There was a motion to adjourn and the vote in favor was unanimous (8-0).




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