SECURITY ADVISORY COUNCIL
MINUTES OF MEETING
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2005
213 WILLIAM SMALL CENTRE
2:00 PM TO 4:00 PM
Andrew Wickens – CSBO Amelia Golden – Student Community Dev.
Andrew Wilson – Facilities Services Cathy Hong Mei Li – Schulich MBA
Arthur Hilliker, YUFA Curtis Phills – YFS Constituency Committee
Deanna Santos – SHEACC/CHRE Danielle Lamb - GWERC
Eric Newstadt – GSA Erica Joy-Henry – Atkinson Stud. Assoc Gilles
James Brown – Housing & Food Services, CSBO Fortin – Glendon Budget Office
Jamie Halla – Vanier College Gill Tieman - CHRE
Jamie Michano – FNASA Gilles Fortin – Budget Officer, Glendon
Joanna Rainbow – Office of the Counsel Hana Abdul – York Women‟s Centre
Joe Falsetta – CUPE 1356-1 Jeremy Greenberg - Alumni
Manuel Luna – CUPE 3903 Joannie Pritchett-Cameron – YUSA
Margo Gewurtz – Founders College Master Judy Meikle – Atkinson Daycare
Mike Markicevic – SPT, CSBO Kate Ervine – GSA, VP, Women‟s Affairs
Mike Morris – Insurance & Risk Management Ken Barger – CUPE 1356
Nancy White - Communications Ken Tooby – Security Services, CSBO
Nick Freedman - YFS Leslie Powell – Lee Wiggins Childcare Centre
Rick Howell – Facilities Services Luis Figueiredo – CUPE 1356
Rob Castle - (Chair) Student Centre Majid Minawi – MESA
Robin Sen – SPT, CSBO Marie Collins – Caribbean Stud. Assoc.
Steve Dranitsaris – Office of the VPFA Matthew Hyland – TBLGAY
Tefari Adem – Centre for Race & Ethnic (CRER) Michael Miceli - ABLE
Omari Mason – York U Black Stud. Assoc.
GUESTS: Paul Delaney – Council of Masters
Kelli MacCulloch – Student Affairs Richard Fisher - Communications
Christine Grossutti – GSA Ron Fiedtkou - GSCU
Victoria Moufawad – CUPE 3903 Salim Chagani – South Asian Alliance
Shamini Selvaratnam - ACSA
SPT STAFF: Siddhartha Pandey – SSB, GBC
Barb Bauer – SPT, CSBO Susan Miller – Student Affairs, Glendon
Sylvia Zingrone – Office of the President
REGRETS: Tahir Mohammed – Facilities Services
Anne-Marie Mair – Security Services, CSBO Talia Klein – Hillel York
David Timmins – Security Services, CSBO
Lynn Horwood – Office of VP (Academic Affairs)
Maxine Armstrong – Security Services, CSBO
Michael Graham – Facilities Services
Nicole Arsenault – Trans. & Stud. Sec., CSBO
Sylvia Schippke – Student Affairs
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 2:10 p.m. R. Castle (Chair) welcomed everyone to the council.
2. Minutes of the Meeting of December, 1, 2004
The Chair requested that the minutes be amended to item #4 Committee Reports under Section iii.
Anti Discrimination Committee (page 4) that T. Adem is not the Chair but K. Tooby and Talia Klein
are the Co-Chairs.
3. Business Arising from Minutes
The minutes were deemed acceptable by all in attendance.
4. Departmental Report
Ranking Category 2004/2005 2003/2004 % Change
1 Theft, Under $5000, Other Than University Property 215 217 -1%
2 Fire Alarms 140 118 19%
3 Emergency Medical 138 133 4%
4 Mischief, Under $5000, University Property 136 92 48%
5 Motor Vehicle Collision 74 71 4%
Total 703 631
Mischief, Under $5000, University Property
M. Markicevic provided an overview of the Top 5 Incidents and expressed his concern on Item #4.
Mischief, Under $5000, University Property in which there has been a 48% increase. M.
Markicevic suggested that the increase in graffiti on campus, although a broad but specific crime,
may go beyond mischief to specific targeting of certain individuals. This could contribute to the rise
in this category and he wanted the committee aware of this increase.
M. Markicevic announced that Security Services is examining and investigating trends for the
increase of fire alarms on campus. Security has to respond to every alarm regardless.
J. Brown acknowledged and provided the Council the following explanation that would have
contributed to the increase of fire alarms and at this time are being addressed.
Stong Residence had faulty fire vents in the rooms
Patrons at the Spot in Calumet were pulling malicious fire alarms
Bethune College had a technical malfunction with the fire panel
Remedial action is underway in all 3 areas, which should result in a decrease in alarms.
Direction of Security Services & Community Involvement
M. Markicevic discussed the Department‟s obligation to provide leadership, support and direction in
a consistent and predictable manner to the Security Officers to allow them to continue to grow and
respond to the changing environment around them. Noting that this depends on the needs of the
York community and how the University wants to invest in security services. We need to move
forward by becoming more pro-active and less reactive.
Entrenchment – thoroughly understanding processes, policies, procedures etc…
Community – probing the community, creating a balance with the obligation to educate &
respond to incidents
Computer Systems – critical aspect to security, will provide the enhanced data for both
reporting and measuring qualitative issues
Supervision – provide consistent and predictable guidance, create synergy
Understanding their role, joint cooperation, effecting change, understanding the environment and
Training & Development
By providing a training and development support process that will ensure that the training we do works. We
can make training and development more effective within our organization with community feedback &
Hiring - in progress to complete the full staff complement. Current focus is on filling supervisory
New Uniforms – uniform committee was established, 2-3 officers will be outfitted and visible to the
entire community for comments & feedback.
Radio’s – investigating the purchase of new radios for the safety of the community
Child Id Program – initiative put forth by our Campus Relations Officers
January 20, 2005 Event in Vari Hall
The chair permitted an open discussion amongst Council members on the above event. Also
noting to the members that the events and persons are still under investigation.
Eric Newstadt made a number of requests which focused the discussion. A synopsis of discussion
1. Written documentation on how the University communicates with Toronto Police Services
2. Procedures/processes for calling the TPS onto campus
M. Markicevic stated that Security is obligated to attend all events in anticipation of a
remote possibility of it becoming violent or causing property damages. This ensures
the safety of the community and supports the non interruption of other persons not
involved in the event. It is a proactive measure in response to our community needs.
3. Security collecting names of individuals
V. Moufawad asked if Security carries a list of “usual suspects” to establish, maintain
and communicate with TPS. Secondly, stating that in her view this is infringing on
rights to freedom of speech, safety, security, assembly & movement.
M. Markicevic, no list exists. He further explains that operationally when the
department is aware of an event taking place on campus, common procedure is to
dispatch officers, assess resources, and position themselves and to take notes.
A. Wickens added that under the Presidential policy, Security can request anyone on
campus to identify themselves.
Excerpt taking from Dr. Marsden’s comments to Senate on January 27, 2005:
When students register at York University they agree to the following statement which
is published in the calendar. “Student conduct on campus is governed by long-
standing Presidential Regulations that require students to abide by reasonable
instructions given orally or in writing by any official of the university authorized to
secure compliance with regulations, rules and procedures provided that the official
identified and acting in an official capacity”. Presidential Regulation #2- the Conduct of
Students at York University.
4. All reports, interviews, video filed on January 20
M. Markicevic noting that this is under TPS investigation.
Queries from committee members:
M. Gewurtz – what will we do with these reports?
J. Falsetta – will this be a one time only request?
V. Moufawad – might help seeing the bigger picture of what took place
Excerpt taking from Gary Brewer’s report to Senators regarding the security aspects of
This is a difficult and complex issue, and I ask the York community to consider
carefully all the facts and the full context of Thursday‟s events before drawing
5. Physical intervention from Security „touching of students‟
V. Moufawad wanted clarification on Security physically touching students. At this
event K. Tooby was holding an 18 year old female against the wall and what appeared
to by excessive use of force.
M. Markicevic replied that if TPS requests anyone‟s assistance regardless of position,
they must comply. At this event K. Tooby was requested by TPS to assist.
6. Definition of clear and present danger
E. Newstadt, requested a definition of the above.
M. Markicevic explained that he requested that TPS attend after 45 minutes of
protesting, classes emptying and the Vari Hall filling up.
E. Newstadt motioned that the committee provide a document outlining the chronology of events
that led to the request to have Toronto Police Services attend the protest and intercede.
V. Moufawad seconded the motion. In favour 9 and against 8. Motion carried.
E. Newstadt motioned that the committee provide all security reports, interviews, eyewitness
accounts. V. Moufawad seconded the motion. In favour 7 and against 12. Motion defeated.
5. Committee Reports
i. Campus Safety Committee
Minutes from the January 20, 2005 were submitted electronically to the committee and S.
Dranitsaris highlighted the following:
Campus Lighting – Email: firstname.lastname@example.org is advertised on the Security Services
website and Facilities is following up with the same. The annual lighting tour was held on
January 25, 2005, approximately 12 persons attended.
No Smoking By-Law – In progress, Security plans to implement and awareness program by
issuing informational cards to those smoking in the colonnade. J. Brown will follow-up with Pat
Yu, Director DOHS regarding signage for Pond Rd. residence no smoking within 9 meters of
the building. Currently this applies to Schulich and East Office Building.
Next meeting will be scheduled in March, update will be provided at next SAC meeting.
ii. Women’s Safety Committee
Nothing to report.
iii. Anti-Discrimination Committee
Nothing to report.
iv. Terms of Reference Committee
Nothing to report.
6. New Business
Nothing to report.
7. Meeting Dates
The next SAC meeting will be held on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 at 2pm in room 213 William
The meeting adjourned at 4:25 p.m.