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Medicine Lake TMDL Meeting #1 Introduction by heapsofluvv

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									  Welcome!

Medicine Lake TMDL Study
   Steering Committee Meeting
      November 18, 2008
                                Agenda
3:00 – 3:20 Introductions - Brian Ross, CR Planning
3:20 – 3:30 Brief Project Description – Brooke Asleson, MPCA
3:30 – 3:45 Role of Steering Committee – Brian Ross, CR Planning
      Review Roles & Responsibilities
      Ground rules for decision making
      Setting meeting dates & times
3:45 – 3:50 Framework for the TMDL Process - Brian Ross, CR
   Planning
3:50 – 4:05 Water Quality Standards – Brooke Asleson, MPCA
      Use classes
      User perception data
      Water quality standards
4:05 – 4:35 Medicine Lake Monitoring – Brian Vlach, TRPD
      Stormwater monitoring
      Stream monitoring
      In-lake monitoring
4:35 – 4:55 Medicine Lake Interactions – John Barten, TRPD
      Vertical profiling of the lake
      Relationship between water quality constituents
                Introductions
State your name. . .
Affiliation(s). . .
   Organization?
   Citizen?
   Government?
And what you thought of the introductory material.
   Routine?
   Too complex?
   Boring?
   Pulitzer prize material?
                 Introductions
 State your name. . .
 Affiliation(s). . .
    Organization?
    Citizen?
    Government?
 And what you thought of the introductory material.
    Routine?
    Too complex?
    Boring?
    Pulitzer prize material?
Now – get up out of your comfortable
chair and go introduce yourself to one
person that you do not know
Role of the Steering Committee
Roles and responsibilities
  Attend Steering Committee meetings
  Read background materials sent out prior to meetings
  Attend training session(s)
  Become familiar with the previous work on Medicine
  Lake
  Take information back to your
  community/constituency, solicit their reactions, and
  report reactions back to the Committee
  Attend public meetings and help the project manager
  encourage public participation
Role of the Steering Committee
Ground rules for decision making
  “I-can-live-with-that” consensus.
    o This is a “partnership process” that should result in buy-in to
      and ownership of the implementation plan.
    o Implementation will require willing participation from many of
      the parties represented on the Steering Committee.
  Everyone needs to contribute, no one gets to dominate.
    o The facilitator will occasionally cut you off.
    o The facilitator will occasionally ask you to answer specific
      questions.
  Formal votes are a last resort.
    o The facilitator will poll the group when consensus is not
      apparent, and will set aside making decisions if the group is
      split.
    o The facilitator and project manager will work with differing
      parties outside the meetings to attempt to resolve issues.
 Role of the Steering Committee
Making your first crucial decision . . .
 When should we schedule meetings?
    Time of day?       Day of the week?
     o Morning?         o Fixed day (third Tuesday)?
     o Afternoon?       o Leave it to the project
     o After work?        manager?
                        o Use the meeting wizard tool?
Framework for the TMDL
      Process

      What We                        What We
      Do Know                        Can Know
   Facts and data that             What will it take to
 guide decision making -         “un-impair” the Lake –
  History, successes,            Modeling, new data,
        failures                      new science




                    What We Do
                     Not Know
                  When science does
                    not answer our
                     questions –
                  Uncertainty and risk
       Making Decisions
 in an uncertain environment
As we know, there are known knowns.
There are things we know we know. We
also know there are known unknowns.
That is to say we know there are some
things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns, the ones we don't
know we don't know.
—Donald Rumsfeld, Feb. 12, 2002, Department of
Defense news briefing
        Making Decisions
  in an uncertain environment

It’s not what we don’t know that hurts
us. It’s what we know that just ain’t so.
- Will Rogers
Today . . . What We Do Know
Water Quality Standards
  Brooke Asleson
Medicine Lake Monitoring
  Brian Vlach
Medicine Lake Interactions
  John Barten

								
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