Necessary Roughness - Orlando Jones Conference Call Interview by daet


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Operator:         Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Orlando
                  Jones on Necessary Roughness conference call.

                  During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode.
                  Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. At that time, if
                  you have a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.
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                  As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, Tuesday, August 16, 2011.

                  I would now like to turn the conference over to Brad Bernstein. Please go
                  ahead, sir.

Brad Bernstein:   Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today and thank you, Orlando, for
                  taking the time to do this call. Orlando starts his guest starring arch on
                  Necessary Roughness tomorrow, August 17, at 10 pm, 9 Central on USA
                  Network. And I’ll now turn the call over to Orlando Jones.
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Orlando Jones:   I honestly don’t feel like I’m going to live up to that introduction. So please
                 go easy.

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                 followed by the 4 on your telephone. You are to hear to a three-toned prompt
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                 you’re using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before entering your

                 One moment please for the first question.

                 And our first question comes from the line of Troy Rogers with the
        Please go ahead.

Troy Rogers:     Hi, Orlando.

Orlando Jones:   Hey, man. How’s it going?

Troy Rogers:     Not too bad. Thanks for taking the time.

Orlando Jones:   No problem.

Troy Rogers:     Now, what type of research did you do for Laz? To get into the head of a life

Orlando Jones:   It’s funny you should ask that. I actually dated a girl many moons ago whose
                 best friend was a life coach and I actually called her just because at the time
                 that I was dating her, she was just the girl I was going out with crazy friend
                 and all of a sudden I was interested which I think threw her for a loop.
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                 And I just kind of wanted to understand what the training background was for
                 being a life coach, you know, with like a weekend seminar type thing and
                 what it was. And also (to know) what kind of credentials they had and what
                 most of her clients had been. So that was sort of my first call.

                 And my second call was to a couple of my buddies who were professional
                 athletes. I just wanted to see what their therapy life was like for a lot of the
                 problems they go through, you know, adjustment to family or, you know,
                 things going on with the team and so on and so forth.

                 So that kind of was the - that was the gist to the research but I got wildly
                 different answers from the professional side, more like the (unintelligible)
                 than I did from the side where, you know, girl in California who professes to
                 be a life coach.

Troy Rogers:     Okay, cool. And can you talk about working opposite Mehcad Brooks and
                 what that was like?

Orlando Jones:   Mehcad is awesome. I think we are convinced that we were separated at birth.
                 Obviously, he got more of the hormones than I did. So he’s a little bigger than
                 me which is usually unusual because, you know, actors are often like, you
                 know, midgets. So it was kind of funny that the onset was, you know, I’m 6'1"
                 and I think he is like 6' 2" or 6' 3".

                 So Mehcad Brooks is I think wildly talented and a really fantastic actor but
                 most importantly to me, I just think his ethic about working and sort of
                 wanting to do everything he can to have all the elements there when you’re
                 doing the scene are really incredible. I love the guy. I really look forward to
                 working with him again.
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Troy Rogers:     Nice (round). One more quick thing and I’ll let somebody else jump in.
                 Getting back to the research you did for Laz, I just want to know, since you
                 grew up around professional sports, what was your first impression of the
                 character? Like, did he remind you of anybody you knew?

Orlando Jones:   Yes. I mean, he did. You know, it actually feels like, you know, a lot of times
                 assistant coaches, you know, fulfill that role because they’re the ones often
                 that meet the family and sort of know the dynamic of the player before the
                 player comes in to the system.

                 So it’s interesting, you know, how much of that and how much, you know, the
                 guys who do what Laz does (appear) and what their perspective is. You know,
                 because they all have this sort of very plenty perspective which is, you know,
                 “I’m going to go out there and hustle and I’m going to make you some money.
                 And I’m going to make you do the right advice,” and so on and so forth.

                 But, you know, it’s really like, “You know, as long as you can put money in
                 my pocket, I’m willing to help you. And if you can’t, I’m not.” But they don’t
                 see it like they’re being sort of, you know, bloodsuckers. They really see it
                 more like somebody who’s going to fulfill this role no matter what and they
                 are sort of doing you a service by virtue of the fact that they put a lot of
                 money in your pocket in the process.

                 So, you know, it’s interesting to me that professional sports has this on - (in its
                 face), but it’s rarely talked about. So it was kind of exciting to me that
                 somebody was delving into that area and talking about sort of, you know,
                 what happens sort of, you know, off the field as work. So I think, you know,
                 that’s most of it.
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Troy Rogers:     Okay, cool. Can’t wait to see you on the show. Thanks again.

Orlando Jones:   Oh, thank you, man.

Operator:        And our next question comes from the line of Tiffany Vogt with the TV
                 Addict. Please go ahead.

Tiffany Vogt:    Hi. Thank you for taking the time to talk with us today.

Orlando Jones:   No problem.

Tiffany Vogt:    I wanted to ask, if you have your impression of (yourself) to Laz which he’s
                 more like a wizard behind the curtain pulling the strings, like he’s a puppet
                 master or if he’s more like a celebrity whisperer, somebody who kind of
                 manipulates them a little bit?

Orlando Jones:   Honestly, I would say maybe a mixture of both. I don’t think that he’s much
                 of a puppet because I think that, you know, Mehcad’s character, you know,
                 he’s already, you know, “behaving badly.” He’s already, you know, the $100
                 million superstar of the team and, you know, he’s also - you know, that
                 amount of money often goes to, you know, a kid who’s, you know, less than
                 23, 24 years old. So, you know, you're going to expect them to behave the
                 way they behave.

                 So I don’t know that he’s doing that as much as he is indulging the behavior
                 but he’s taking a different approach. I think the best example I can give is I
                 look at the character like this, obviously, drug use is prevalent both, you
                 know, in professional sports and not in professional sports.
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                 I once have heard somebody say to a kid who is - who had problems smoking
                 weed, “Listen, if you’re going to do it, do it at home. Don’t go out in the street
                 (village).” And I turned around and was like, “Whose parents are these? This
                 is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.” But the attitude was I’d rather you do it
                 in a controlled environment wherein I can help you if something happens or
                 you won’t get arrested by the police than you go do it out, you know, in the
                 open where anybody can see you.

                 And I think that’s Laz’s attitude. If you’re going to behave badly, I want to
                 show you how to behave badly in such a way that can both make us money
                 but also keep you a little bit out of trouble. So I think, you know, it’s a little
                 self serving with the (unintelligible) and I think it’s just a skewed perspective
                 on what his behavior is already going to be.

Tiffany Vogt:    Okay. And we understand you’re doing a two-episode arches. Would you
                 relish the opportunity to be a reoccurring kind of arch-nemesis of Dr. Dani
                 and/or Nico?

Orlando Jones:   Yes, I mean, I love the show. I think it could be a lot of fun to see where that
                 goes. I mean, I (therefore) think it really changes that - the dynamic because,
                 you know, Dr. Dani’s approach is so - you know, it’s clinical, it’s factual, it’s
                 based on something. So I think anything that gives her something to play off
                 of is wonderful as Callie is I think is great. So that comes (about and) be
                 amazing. Had a great time in the show and, you know, it’d be fun to go back.

Tiffany Vogt:    Is your role acting kind of adversarial or do you think worked more with Dr.
                 Dani’s method of doing the therapy?

Orlando Jones:   It could - frankly, it could go either way. I think the relationship no matter
                 what, it’s going to have some adversarial element because, you know, Laz
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                 sees the world so much differently than she does. And, you know, she’s a
                 (mom) and, you know, Laz is more interacting with the players on sort of a
                 day-to-day basis. So I think he’s going to be a pain in Nico’s butt to a certain
                 degree. And I think the decisions and the ways that he would approach doing
                 things are so different than Dani.

                 I think she was absolutely questioned, you know, is that the right move and do
                 you want to, you know, (temperate) that decision before you do it whereas I
                 think Laz will just jump in and say, “Let’s just see where the chips fall.” And
                 it think that - those two different approaches are always going to create some
                 adversarial relationships.

Tiffany Vogt:    And then one last final follow-up, maybe you could comment on whether you
                 think Laz’s motivations are more altruistic like he wants to help people or if
                 he’s just in it for the money, it’s more self-serving.

Orlando Jones:   I see it very much as both, you know. In the research part of it, I sort of spent
                 a lot of time trying to figure out, you know, what the middle ground is and -
                 because I think there’s a - I think Laz is genuine the fact that he really does
                 think he’s helping and that he is, you know, grooming TK. So I think he’s
                 genuine but I do think he’s altruistic at the same time.

                 So, you know, I look at him like he’s a creature who has these massive
                 audiences and they all love him and they believe him and then he helps his
                 people, but he’s a creature who doesn’t believe in God. So that’s how I see it.

Tiffany Vogt:    Thank you very much.

Operator:        Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Allison Ebner with
                 Pop Culture Madness. Please go ahead.
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Allison Ebner:   Hi, Orlando. How are you?

Orlando Jones:   Good. How are you?

Allison Ebner:   Good. Thanks. So could you talk a bit about how as an actor it is for you to
                 approach this guest role where you only have two episodes really to create a
                 character versus a series regular character.

Orlando Jones:   It’s a little - it’s a totally - to some degree the approach is the same and to
                 some degree the approach is different. You know, most of my career has been
                 in the movie business where, you know, you’re going to live with whomever
                 it is for, you know, three, four months or longer. A lot of the ground work I
                 think ends up being done by sort of the writers and you ultimately look at, you
                 know, the arc of the episode and try, at least from my perspective, to - and
                 view the character with as much nuance as you possibly can.

                 And I think, you know, in some of the questions I’ve been asked already,
                 that’s really been the challenge. I mean, it’s really easy to play Laz to me as
                 this really sort of sleazy guy who just sort of comes in and takes advantage of
                 TK. I kind of feel like that’s kind of straight on - up the middle and on the
                 (nose) and you should have seen it coming.

                 So what I wanted to kind of get my head around when approaching something
                 and it gets kind of low, low, low, what’s the reality of it and what’s the best
                 side of the worst guy.

                 So - and often when you’re doing something where you have a role, this guy,
                 you know, is a lovely person. He’s welcoming. Well, what is he trying to
                 hide? What’s his secret? So, I mean, ultimately I think, you know, we’re kind
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                 of binary people and there’s two of us living inside all the time, you know,
                 that get into (bad). So I think the tough part is trying to (curse) that and then
                 try and find the moment in the scenes that you have in order to give the
                 character some, you know, life and, you know, some interest and nuance.

                 So that’s generally the approach, you know, and it’s difficult primarily
                 because, you know, it’s (relegated) by screen time so you try and deal with it
                 as best you possibly can and look at each scenes and not what the objective is
                 that’s happening in the story but then how you can make the objective of the
                 story a little bit more interesting than it’s going to be than if you just hit it on
                 the (nose).

                 I don’t know if that answered your question. I hope so.

Allison Ebner:   Yes, great. And, you know, is there anything you were surprised to learn
                 about yourself from this character? You know, you’re playing a life coach. So
                 did you walk away with any new life lessons?

Orlando Jones:   I don’t know that I have time to do that. I definitely - you know, I definitely
                 have previously not been, you know, the biggest (head) of the life coaches. I
                 always thought of it sort of like, “Seriously, that’s really what you do?” So I
                 think I definitely gained a little bit more respect for that profession because
                 like I do think that, you know, if they’re (core), they really are trying to, you
                 know, help people so it’s kind of positive look on your (unintelligible) people
                 who are devoting their lives to try and to go for the - you know, do better for
                 themselves and do better for others.

                 So that, you know, I think I gained a little bit more respect for the profession
                 and that, you know, for me, that was (based) because it was something I
                 previously just made fun of.
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Allison Ebner:   Great. And obviously Laz spends a lot of time with TK, but is there a
                 particular character on the show that you would have liked to have shared a
                 few more scenes with?

Orlando Jones:   Yes. I really - you know, Callie and I have known each other for a while from
                 New York so, I mean, I definitely wanted to - I would have loved to interact
                 with her more, as well as, you know, Marc Blucas’ character. I like the - you
                 know, I like it very much, the characters on the show. And it was - I certainly
                 was (relegating) more on TK and Nico and, you know, Callie and I a little bit
                 of running into each other but for the most part, our interaction is (relegated)
                 through TK out of love who have gotten through the differences in our
                 philosophies and the differences in our approaches to working with athletes.
                 That would have been interesting. I would love to do that.

Allison Ebner:   Great. Thank you so much.

Orlando Jones:   Thank you.

Operator:        And our next question comes from the line of Suzanne Lanoue with The TV
                 MegaSite. Please go ahead.

Suzanne Lanoue: Hi. Nice to talk with you today.

Orlando Jones:   Same here.

Suzanne Lanoue: Yes. Are you there?

Orlando Jones:   I’m here. I’m here.
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Suzanne Lanoue: Can you hear me?

Orlando Jones:    I could hear you.

Suzanne Lanoue: Okay. Sorry. I have a problem, my phone going out sometimes (once a week).

Orlando Jones:    (That’s good). Please (don’t worry).

Suzanne Lanoue: Let’s see, I was wondering what - if you’re going to be - even tell us about
                  your character and (don’t worry if you can’t tell us), you’ve expanded quite a
                  bit. Anymore you can tell us about your character on this show and anything
                  that might happen?

Orlando Jones:    Well, I definitely can’t give anything away.

Suzanne Lanoue: Right.

Orlando Jones:    But, let’s see, let me think. I think he’s a bit of a (snuggie) dresser, I can tell
                  you that. And I’m almost sure that he’s a Corey Hart fan.

Suzanne Lanoue: Okay. What, he wears sunglasses at night?

Orlando Jones:    I’m just - I didn’t say that. I just said I think he’s a Corey Hart fan.

Suzanne Lanoue: Okay.

Orlando Jones:    But, yes, mostly, yes, I would want - I think I’ve been dancing around the
                  edges. So I think I’ve given you as much as I can give you without, you know,
                  sort of blowing the episodes.
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Suzanne Lanoue: Okay, that’s cool. And how is the - how is it working with the cast? Were they
                  very welcoming? Are they a fun group to work with?

Orlando Jones:    I honestly - you know, I have to settle a lot of guest star stuff and, you know,
                  when you do it, you’ll never know what environment you’re walking into.
                  This one is particularly welcoming, inviting. The cast is really, really lovely.
                  And I don’t say that in a sort of the, you know, difficult sort of be as an actor
                  kind of way.

Suzanne Lanoue: Right.

Orlando Jones:    I mean lovely in the sense that might - you get a call after work like, “Hey,
                  we’re going here. Let’s go hang out.” Or, you know, “Hey, (unintelligible).”
                  You know, it’s a lot more like there’s a real family and a real sort of (peer)
                  community happening on this show which I think if you’re...

Suzanne Lanoue: I like that.

Orlando Jones:    ...seeing on screen, it’s really wonderful and it’s really special. It is not the
                  way it generally is. You know, generally any group of people that kind of
                  breaks and it clicks, that’s not what that is. It’s - that’s - you know, it’s really
                  like a theater environment and I think that, you know, part of the reason the
                  show is so wonderful is they’re so giving and open and respectful of each
                  other. So it’s really something special going on there.

Suzanne Lanoue: Okay. And, now you do a lot of movies and occasionally guest starring roles.
                  Are you looking to do more television or are you still trying to see if you’re
                  more towards movies?
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Orlando Jones:   It’s really - I don’t know that I look at the medium, you know, whoever - the
                 people are watching stuff on iPads and phones, I’m not sure if it really matters
                 anymore. So I think it’s - for me it’s more about the commitment. I mean, you
                 know, finding the right role on television is difficult because you sign a seven-
                 year contract.

Suzanne Lanoue: Right. That’s - yes.

Orlando Jones:   So I - on television, you know, it’s really just been about finding the right
                 things that’s going to be the right long-term fit. And, you know, in movies it’s
                 a little different because, you know, it’s a finite period of time, you know. So I
                 think for me that’s sort of the difference but, you know, the right role, you
                 know, with the right cast and so on and so forth, I mean, that’s really what you
                 look for, you know, be it in a guest starring role or otherwise.

                 And, you know, this was, you know, a role where there’s a really wonderful
                 cast and, you know, the show (runners) and fantastic writers. So, you know, it
                 is like, this is kind of the best of all possible worlds, you know, so it’s - you
                 know, if that happens in another show, I would definitely do that. And if it
                 happens in a film, I would do that.

                 But half of the people I know from TV are not doing film and half the people I
                 know from film are not doing TV. So I’m not sure where it’s all going to land.
                 But, you know, for me it’s really more about the character than it is anything

Suzanne Lanoue: All right. Thank you very much.

Orlando Jones:   Thank you.
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Operator:        And our next question comes from the line of Rick Ellis with
        Please proceed with your question.

Rick Ellis:      Orlando, appreciate you taking the time to do this.

Orlando Jones:   No problem, man. Thank you.

Rick Ellis:      You know, you mentioned about looking for roles and I’m curious, when
                 you’re looking for a role, whether it’s Necessary Roughness or something
                 else, is there something in particular, a particular type of character or is it just
                 a matter of it’s a good script and it’s a good cast and I’m going to go with it?

Orlando Jones:   No, there are other factors, obviously. I mean, I think one of the big factors is,
                 you know, have I done this before? And, you know, that’s - you know,
                 obviously, you want to grow and do different things. So that becomes part of
                 it. So the other part of it, I think is also just about - how do I put this? I think
                 it’s more difficult now because, you know, so much stuff is a little - it’s a little
                 on the (nose) for my taste.

                 So, you know, trying to find stuff that’s going to be, you know, noteworthy.
                 Something - you know, at some point, I’m going to end up in a situation
                 where I’m talking to the - you know, people like you and I hate to feel like
                 I’m the guy that’s lying. So I go, “Oh, it was wonderful. The cast was
                 incredible and it was such a great experience,” like, I don’t do that well.

Rick Ellis:      Yes.

Orlando Jones:   So I (unintelligible). So, you know, trying to make sure, you know, you
                 actually feel that way about the character. Like I don’t know how often
                 somebody gets a phone call saying, “Hey, here’s a role for a life coach to a
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                 professional athlete who’s got a” - like, to me, I’m like, yes, don’t hear that
                 every day. That sounds awesome.

                 So, you know, you look for those elements, obviously, you know, whenever
                 you got to do something. And if there’s something that’s been done a
                 thousand times before, then you hope that or you want it to be a different
                 approach to it, you know. So, you know, I’ve seen the (Procedure) before but
                 when I saw Dexter, I went, “Now, that’s interesting.” You know, the cop is a
                 serial killer. Wow that’s different than before.”

                 So I mean, generally you look for stuff that, you know, I call it disruption.
                 Something that disrupts what was previously there and forges a new path and
                 that’s probably the primary factor.

Rick Ellis:      Well, you know, athletes and actors have a lot in common I think personality
                 wise. The celebrity and the ability to act out and just - there’s a lot of ego
                 involved obviously. I’m wondering when you’re doing a role like this, does
                 that make it a little easier that you’re able to kind of get a little bit in the head
                 of TK and sort of know where he’s coming from?

Orlando Jones:   Well, I think it does to some degree. I think the trick of it is - you know, it
                 depends on how sober they are. So, you know, I think there’s some symbolic
                 outrageous behaviors that you hear about. You know, the trick of it, you
                 know, as you know, I mean, there’s the great story out that Plaxico Burress
                 shot himself, right? And then...

Rick Ellis:      Yes.

Orlando Jones:’s all over the news that Plaxico Burress shot himself. And so what I
                 thought was interesting about, at least the parts of that story that I heard, is
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              that one of his teammates had go on an anniversary trip with his wife and the
              limo driver had held them at gun point and then it just happened a week
              before. So Plaxico Burress having heard that from his close friends, his
              teammates, was like, “You got robbed by a limo driver? Forget that. I’m now
              taking a gun.” So he takes a gun out with him and he ends up shooting

              So the story that we heard was the story that’s looking in some NFL player
              who shot himself, what an idiot. But from his perspective, it was, “Well, wait
              a second, people are getting robbed too in my profession left and right, so I
              should carry a firearm to protect myself.”

              So I think that that’s’ what’s interesting about being able to do this kind of
              role and this kind of show and I think that’s’ what great about this show is you
              get to delve into the underside of, you know, what happens the day before in
              that guy’s life that led to the tragedy and that becomes to me more interesting
              than just hearing the sound bytes in the tabloid story as opposed to actually
              hearing, you know, for lack of a better word, you know, what would be the
              real story.

              So, I don’t know if he - I don’t think it’s easier because the real story
              generally has a lot more to do with what your hopes and your fears are and,
              you know, what’s going on in your head. So it doesn’t allow you to get that
              far ahead of this because you’re kind of delving into the truth as opposed to,
              “Oh, it is one that, you know, (unintelligible),” and everybody heard that.

Rick Ellis:   One last question, you know, you mentioned that before you did this role you
              didn’t have a lot of face in life coaches and how serious they were about it.
              And so I’m wondering just from your own standpoint, it doesn’t sound like
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                 you’d be headed off to a life coach if you were going through some sort of a
                 personal crisis.

                 I mean, you know, how do you deal with that pressure? Because I mean every
                 actor has those pressures that you have to deal with, you have to work your
                 way for all these different minefields of clingers and people hang on and
                 people trying to do you wrong. And, you know, how do you sort of handle
                 that yourself?

Orlando Jones:   You know, to be honest with you, it’s weird because, you know, like
                 everybody will tell you, a lot is your family and friends; these people that
                 you’ve known for a long time. So, you know, you’ve built the trust with them

                 You know, I think it’s been a learning curve to be honest with you that just
                 sort of comes with it. And, you know, you can - the one thing I can guarantee
                 you is, you know, people are going to make mistakes, you know, and I’m no
                 exception to that one. I definitely, you know, made those mistakes in

                 But I think it’s great if you can get a mentor, which I think I was fortunate
                 enough to get, who can lead you away from some of those minefields if you
                 get to listen to them. It’s difficult to me, at least in my profession, to go to a
                 life coach per se because they don’t really know what the minefields are
                 because they’re not really in it. You know what I mean?

                 It’s - you know, I’m not an (account). You know what I mean? So it’s
                 different when you’ve got an actor who’s older and that, you know, blah, blah,
                 blah. He’s already done all these who can sort of, you know, grab you in the
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                 back of your neck and go, “Kid, go down that road but I can tell you how it’s
                 going to lead,” and then you have an opportunity to listen or not listen.

                 So, you know, for me the best mentors are, you know, there are a lot of, you
                 know, actors that’s been great to me and helped me navigate this world once
                 again. The life coach thinks - you know, in my world doesn’t really think.
                 You know, for me it makes the most sense but somebody else might be

Rick Ellis:      Well, not for me either. So thanks a lot for your time.

Orlando Jones:   Hilarious.

Operator:        And our next question comes from the line of (Lena Emery) with
                 ( Please go ahead.

(Lena Emery):    Hey, Orlando. It’s a pleasure to speak with you.

Orlando Jones:   Yes, same here. Thank you.

(Lena Emery):    Now from the previous previews, it looks like Laz is not a welcome addition
                 to the TK support team. Can you tell u about the conflicts that ensue?

Orlando Jones:   Definitely not particularly a welcome addition but I think primarily because
                 he’s a bit of a - you know, he’s unknown. And I think there’s always a
                 question when somebody says they’re a life coach, well, you know, where did
                 you study? And where does your credentials come from? So a lot of the, you
                 know, conflicts that ensue have to do with the fact that he is a complete and
                 total, you know, unknown.
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                 So I would say he’s a lot more like the guy who shows up the door that you’ve
                 never heard of before who now all of a sudden is chummy with the boss and
                 having a (lethal) impact on the outcome of your life but you don’t like know
                 where this person comes from. So without giving anything away, that’s the
                 first part of the conflict and it certainly begins to evolve from there.

(Lena Emery):    Okay. Now you’ve played so many incredible characters and Harry from
                 Evolution was my favorite.

Orlando Jones:   Harry Block.

(Lena Emery):    So how would you compare Harry to Laz?

Orlando Jones:   Wow. Hysterical. I did not see that one coming. Well done. Harry is a - you
                 know, Harry is a volleyball coach who teaches part-time geology. That’s
                 really to me what he was. So I think, you know, he kind of - you know, he was
                 hanging out in the college campus. He’s really having a good time. He kind of
                 has the zest for life and then, you know, a meteor hit and his life changed.

                 So for me with him he was always sort of catching himself throughout
                 everything what was going on in life. We couldn’t quite believe that it’s
                 happening. So he was always vacillating between trying to be, you know, the
                 serious scientist while at the same time going, “Can you believe that we got
                 refrigeration? It’s awesome.”

                 So I think Laz is definitely a lot more in control of what’s going on. You
                 know, Laz is definitely like he knows what’s going on. He knows what - he
                 has an objective in mind. He had set moods that he plans on making that has
                 financial rewards (at the end). So I think that he is not pitching himself to be
                 in a situation with professional athletes. He has a lot more ego. I think he feels
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                  like, you know, they should be pitching themselves because they got someone
                  of his caliber to work with them.

                  So I think there is a wildly different characters with very different
                  (unintelligible). They’re very different just sort of general approaches to every

(Lena Emery):     Thank you so much.

Orlando Jones:    Thank you.

(Lena Emery):     You’re welcome.

Operator:         As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to register for a question, please press
                  the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.

                  And our next question comes from the line of (Joy Constantino) with The
                  Voice of TV. Please go ahead.

(Joy Constantino): Excuse me. Hi, Orlando. How are you doing?

Orlando Jones:    Good, man. How are you?

(Joy Constantino): I’m very well.

Orlando Jones:    By the way, The Voice of TV is an awesome name.

(Joy Constantino): Isn’t it awesome?

Orlando Jones:    That is awesome.
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(Joy Constantino): And I love that it’s, you know, the (pan) of a critic, the heart of a TV lover.

Orlando Jones:     I love it.

(Joy Constantino): I’m so upset, the question right before mine stole what I was going to say that
                   Evolution is one of my all-time favorite film of yours.

Orlando Jones:     Thank you so much.

(Joy Constantino): Actually one of my all-time favorite films ever.

Orlando Jones:     Oh, thank you. I really appreciate it. It was a fun one to make.

(Joy Constantino): It was great. I’ve watched it numerous enough time. But everyone pretty much
                   covered what I was thinking. I guess I’m just having one of those days, but I
                   wanted to ask you, I know you mentioned you didn’t really get to interact with
                   Callie too much. But I was wondering, the little bit that you do interact with
                   her or not even interact with her but do you think Dr. Dani is skeptical about
                   Laz being involved with TK in a maternal type way? Is she worried that he
                   has some ulterior motives? You know, has she become that protective of him?
                   Or why do you think she’s so skeptical of their relationship?

Orlando Jones:     I think it’s three-fold. I think one is, I think it is a little bit maternal because
                   she spent some time with TK. And I think the other is, you know, again, what
                   his credentials, you know, where did he - you know, what is his previous
                   experience and who are his clients and that sort of thing. And I think lastly,
                   she - you know, just a little bit out of nowhere to be working with someone. I
                   think there’s a - when you - I think it’s a little weird, you know, when you’re
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                  working with somebody and all of a sudden somebody else shows up and
                  you’re no longer working with them. That’s always a little bit of like, “Okay,
                  hold on. What happened? You’re doing what?”

                  So I think all of those things kind of come together that kind of throw her for a
                  loop. But, you know, it’s TK’s decision. So she kind of has to respect that. So
                  again, you know, we definitely, you know, interact on the show but our
                  interaction is sort of bordered by TK’s decision. So - and I think those are the
                  reasons that she’s sort of uncomfortable with it.

(Joy Constantino): Okay. And how does Laz interacts with some of the other characters, Matt or
                  Nico? Are they as, you know, untrusting of Laz as Dr. Dani is or are they a
                  little more - you know, do they understand a little more about why he would
                  want a life coach?

Orlando Jones:    Well, I think, you know, obviously Dani has a great relationship with, you
                  know, Nico and the staff there. So I think that, you know, in the world of
                  professional athletes it’s like, if they have identified the person that they want
                  you to help and then the player goes out and gets someone on their own and it
                  just - I think it’s sort of the same reaction which is, you know, who is this
                  person? And I think, you know, their first phone call is more than likely
                  asking her what does that mean. It puts her in an awkward position because
                  she can’t be responsible for me, she doesn’t know me.

                  So I think that, you know, he becomes sort of disruptive to the entire - he’s
                  disruptive to everything surrounding TK the moment he shows up.

(Joy Constantino): And I wanted to ask you just lastly, I know that you have, you know, a major
                  film career. You know, like you said earlier, you haven’t done that many guest
                  starring roles in television. You’re primarily a film actor. While the landscape
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                  of TV is changing with so many of the cable stations producing this, you
                  know, really high caliber material and the networks sort of, you know, not up
                  to par with the rest of them. Were you excited to jump on that bandwagon and
                  get on one of the most popular cable network? And do you hope that this will
                  lead to a recurring role in future seasons?

Orlando Jones:    Yes. I mean, it could. I mean, I think it could be really great. And I think, you
                  know, your assessment is - you know, it’s true on a lot of levels. I mean,
                  there’s a lot of interesting stuff happening on cable from Breaking Bad to
                  Justified, Necessary Roughness, you know, Burn Notice and the like. So I
                  think, you know, USA is incredible. You know, I love the Network. It’s
                  something that I watch a lot. And I do think there’s some interesting things on
                  Network as well, don’t get me wrong. But I do think that what’s changed a lot
                  is there isn’t a lot of interesting character stuff going on - really going on.

(Joy Constantino): I understand.

Orlando Jones:    So - and that’s even probably - and I think it’s unfortunately most true on the
                  film side. I think that’s really where - you know, it’s this cookie cutter is - (the
                  day is long) now. So, you know, I think you’re left to turn to, you know, I
                  would say the actors really - the real actors’ ground which is the theater which
                  is, you know, where I’m (confined) the last couple of years just because it’s
                  amazing that (unintelligible) eight shows a week and do it.

                  Yes, you know, I’ve been looking for the right thing on cable to be honest
                  with you for a while. But it’s about finding, you know, “really what the right
                  thing is.” And it’s a tough find for me because there are some things that I,
                  you know, think would be great to do for a couple of months. But, you know,
                  seven years is just a long stretch sometimes.
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                  So - and I also think that it has a lot to do with the writers that you’re, you
                  know, going to work with, the executive producer that you’re going to work
                  with. So, you know, I had a great time when I went and did House last year. It
                  was, you know, a lot of fun. It was a fun role and the whole nine. But, you
                  know, again, that role is something that people are like, “Oh, you’re going to
                  be recurring.” And I was like, “Man, it was really great to be on this show and
                  I loved it and it’d be nice to go back and visit but I can’t see myself doing that
                  every week.”

                  You know, this is something that’s a lot more fun and I like - you know,
                  Necessary Roughness is more my kind of show. Not that I don’t love House
                  but this is more in the real (help), given how much time my family spend in
                  professional sports. So if it’s so, it feels more like home to me. So, you know,
                  what at least (presents) for something else, you know, I have to agree with
                  you, I think the most interesting stuff in entertainment right now is happening
                  on cable, you know, irrespective of the venue. You know, more money and -
                  more money being spent on the future but I can’t say it’s more entertaining to

(Joy Constantino): Got you. Just one more thing, you know, you’re so great with comedy and
                  Necessary Roughness I would - you know, in my opinion is sort of a light-
                  hearted drama. How did you approach the role because you’re just so good
                  with the comedic timing and just everything about you, going back to
                  Evolution, but, you know, that scene where there’s always time for lubricant.


(Joy Constantino): How do you approach a dramatic role? You know, you always put your own
                  scene on it or how do you balance the comedy and the drama?
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Orlando Jones:   I’ve seen also - you know, to be honest with you, I don’t really look at them
                 that way. I kind of look at them more like, you know, what’s - it’s really about
                 what the story is, right? So I kind of figure the story is the story. So you know
                 the story you’re telling. And by and large, don’t really (need new) stories, we
                 tend to know what they are.

                 So I think, you know, it’s more about how your character, you know, feels the
                 (safest) and the nuances and the shades and the color in the story and less
                 about trying to, you know, discover when you’re doing comedy or drama,
                 they’re really the same thing to the most part. I mean, timing is a little
                 different but they’re not very different from each other.

                 So I think in most of the movies that I love, there’s always, you know, the -
                 particularly my favorite comedy, are really heavy dramas. You know, 48
                 Hours is a very, very violent, graphic drama. You know, so I don’t tend to
                 lend myself very well to the broader sort of (Dodgeball X) kind of comedies
                 which are really just full on broad comedy. I mean, I kind of struggle and
                 there’s a lot of comedy world. I tend to like it a lot more grounded.

                 So my approach to comedy tends to be fairly dramatic because I think the
                 funniest stuff is the stuff that just sort of comes out of the moment in real life
                 and real situations and if you can find that balance of the reality in comedy, I
                 think it’s a lot better than when you just - you know, doing what I did on
                 MADtv which is sketch which is by (definition), way over the top.

                 So I kind of be like that’s sketch and that’s where it’s supposed to be. For (it
                 weren’t be) in a light-hearted drama or a comedy, I still try to - you know, I’ll
                 find the common ground and find the truth and so on and so forth. And I tend
                 to see it that way. But because I see it that, I think it definitely takes me, you
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                  know, out of a lot of the things that many of my friends do just to
                  (unintelligible) kind of comedic stuff.

(Joy Constantino): Great. Thanks so much, Orlando. I really appreciate it you taking the time to
                  do this.

Orlando Jones:    No problem. Thank you. Great to talk to you.

Operator:         And our next question comes from the line of Jamie Steinberg with Starry
                  Constellation, the magazine. Please go ahead.

Jamie Steinberg: Hi. It’s such a pleasure to speak with you.

Orlando Jones:    Same here. Thank you so much.

Jamie Steinberg: Loved you on MADtv so it’s a little bit of surreal moment for me.

Orlando Jones:    Cool. Thank you. That was a lot of fun actually on MADtv.

Jamie Steinberg: Well, there’s a bit of a difficulty when a new person comes on to an already
                  established show. Did you find though there was instant chemistry when you
                  started working with the cast? Or did you need a bit of time to find your

Orlando Jones:    Well, fortunately I was in good - Callie and I already knew each other and
                  Marc Blucas and I already knew each other. So really the people I was most
                  meeting was Mehcad and Nico. So Mehcad and I sort of immediately hit it off
                  and Nico and I had the same experience.
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                 So it was pretty seamless. What I can say is that normally what you’re
                 describing is what happens, you kind of show up and there’s already different
                 kind of groups going on. But because they’re such a close-knit group already,
                 you know, I think I kind of was pre-vetted because I already knew two of
                 them so I kind of walked in and was like, “Hey, everybody. We know each
                 other from dah, dah, dah.” We kind of hit the ground running and really had a
                 great time together.

                 So I managed to jump over that hurdle this time and it was - I think it will
                 show up on the screen in fact. So I’m excited about that.

Jamie Steinberg: Why do you think people tune in to watch Necessary Roughness?

Orlando Jones:   I think he show is extremely well written. I think it has, in my opinion, one of
                 the more underrated cast on television. I think that people are sort of prone
                 sort of around, you know, lots of words about, you know, this person is
                 amazing or that person is amazing and so on and so forth.

                 And I think they are sometimes true. I think that sometimes that, you know,
                 actor has a great pedigree and people, you know, like saying good things
                 about them. I think this cast is just really good, phenomenal work. And I think
                 they’re doing it on a subject matter that we previously haven’t seen before
                 which to me just grants them greater kudos.

                 It’s just I think it’s compelling to want to see and also to humanize a lot of the
                 people that people think are just sort of (knocking) them but which are, you
                 know, people who are wildly successful who’s, you know, done well for
                 themselves financially or who reign the spotlight, then I think, you know,
                 what this does is sort of, you know, illuminates that, you know, irrespective of
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                 what’s happening in your life or what the (outcome will be). There are still,
                 you know, formidable problems that of course we have to overcome.

                 So that’s what the (unintelligible) is showing me but I think also I think that
                 the cast really brings - I think they’re bringing some truth to that. So I sort of I
                 don’t need this happening. And I think, for me anyway, that’s reason enough
                 to tune in because sometimes I just struck out of it when I kind of go, “Okay,
                 that’s so ridiculous. I just don’t buy it.” But on this show, I really don’t need
                 to - you know, the people are going through what they’re going through and,
                 you know, I enjoy it very much.

Jamie Steinberg: And what would you like to say to everybody who’s a fan and supporter of
                 you and your work?

Orlando Jones:   Oh that’s easy. Thank you. I feel really grateful, you know. I still sort of see
                 myself as, you know, the (flat nose) kid from South Carolina. So - because I
                 didn’t really grow up in the, you know, whole New York, LA, Hollywood
                 setting I kind of still very much feel like I’m - you know, like (unintelligible)
                 from the Midwest to the South who is sort of, you know, very much sort of
                 living this, you know, dream today because (I didn’t grow up and neither
                 come from it).

                 So it’s - I really try and work hard to have the audience not to get bored
                 because I think I would be bored because I like to think that just over and over
                 and over again. And so, you know, it’s a part of my decision being positive to
                 go, “Hey, you know, I’ve had really great fans that have stuck with me, you
                 know, for a very, very long time now.”

                 And, you know, I really respect that fact that, you know, there’s a lot of things
                 calling for their attention. And the fact that they spend it going to see me or
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                 going to check me out is something that I will never fully be able to - you
                 know, I don’t know how to say the proper thank you. But I hope before I, you
                 know, bite the dust that I’ll figure out how to actually do something that’s
                 more (useful) than saying thanks which just sounds like some (unintelligible)
                 suck-up, (jackass). But I actually really mean it.

Jamie Steinberg: Great. Thank you so much for your time.

Orlando Jones:   Thank you.

Operator:        As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, okay register for a question, please press
                 the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.

                 And our next question comes from the line of Jamie Ruby with
        Please go ahead.

Jamie Ruby:      Hi. Thanks so much for talking to us today.

Orlando Jones:   Thank you.

Jamie Ruby:      I apologize if my questions have been asked. I came in to the call late. But I
                 know that you talked about Evolution and that’s also one of my favorite
                 movies. I was wondering though if you could talk about working with David
                 Duchovny on it.

Orlando Jones:   Oh, sure. You know, Duchovny and I have remained friends from years (since
                 we met off that movie). I was - you know, I think Duchovny is wildly
                 talented. I was so excited when Californication came on and I remember I
                 called him and he sort of answered the phone and like really he’s kind of like,
                 “What?” And I was like, “Dude, the show is awesome.” And he was like,
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                 “You were the only person to call me.” I was like, “How can I be the first
                 person to call you? It’s like, the show just premiered.”

                 So we’ve always have that sort of connection in of itself. He just - he’s
                 extremely funny and I think I’m glad the Californication happened for people
                 to sort of see how funny he is. The truth of the matter is, unlike most people,
                 he’s actually that funny in real life. I can’t say any - I can’t say enough good
                 things about the guy but I know that this is an incredible guy and we had a lot
                 of fun on Evolution. It was a little funny that they paid us to do that.

Jamie Ruby:      Okay, great. It was a great movie. What’s something that your fans would be
                 surprised to know about you?

Orlando Jones:   I always say that I have not done a comedy in five years.

Jamie Ruby:      Oh wow.

Orlando Jones:   I was thinking that - I think people are very surprised about that.

Jamie Ruby:      Yes, I didn’t expect that. Are you looking forward to trying to do that again or
                 does it not matter to you either way?

Orlando Jones:   It would be fun. You know, for (50 minutes) or so it really has to do with, you
                 know, what the role is. I don’t - you know, a lot of comedy for me is very
                 much sketched. You know, it’s like, you know, I came out, you know, at
                 MADtv and the Replacements and all that kind of jazz but it’s very different.
                 You know, it’s very different navigating that world now and looking for the
                 kind of comedy that I particularly tend to like.
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                 So because of that, I found myself in dramas because I say for whatever
                 reason people are - you know, has seen enough dramatic work now that I find
                 myself getting that call and that call became a bigger call than the comedy call
                 which is just kind of still a little bit shocking to me. But I think that’s
                 primarily because there really aren’t any half hour sitcoms (either) from single
                 camera to, you know, very keen multi-cameras and the comedy movies that
                 are being made are (the same) black people.

Jamie Ruby:      Right.

Orlando Jones:   So as...

Jamie Ruby:      What would...

Orlando Jones:   No, sorry. That’s it.

Jamie Ruby:      Okay. Last question, what would kind of be your ultimate dream role? I mean,
                 if you could write your own, is there something specific you’re looking for

Orlando Jones:   No, I think - you know, I seem to like - I mean, there was this time when I
                 think at least the comedies that I really like though, I thought were
                 phenomenal, be (unintelligible) and it’s a dramatic story. So I tend to like the
                 stuff that - you know, I’d like - some people may consider, you know,
                 throwbacks. You know, the Silver Streak of the world or (Star Crazy) or 48
                 Hours or Beverly Hills Cop.

                 I mean, really look at those movies as dramas. You know, 48 hours is I’m
                 trying to find the person who murdered my partner. In Beverly Hills Cop is
                 I’m trying to find the guy who murdered my best friend. They’re not like
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                 they’re goof balls sort of comedy stuff that we are more akin to seeing now.
                 And, you know, they’re more in keeping with sort of the, you know, old
                 Abbott and Costello movies, right? Everybody in those movies were into
                 drama except for Abbott and Costello who were in a comedy.

                 So I tend to look at those movies and feel more connection to them than I do
                 some of the broader parity stuff where people are trying to parity a parity
                 which I don’t even know how that works or people are just, you know, doing
                 a broad comedy movie, you know, based on another (unintelligible). I don’t -
                 this doesn’t - I don’t know where the Laz is in those movies and so a lot of
                 times I’m like, “Thanks a lot but I’m really not your guy.” Or if I feel like I
                 did it on MADtv already and that’s where it belongs.

                 So, yes, I mean, I think for me it’s just trying to wrap my head around what
                 makes sense. So in a perfect world, definitely a drama, an action comedy
                 would be a lot of fun to do. I think those are the top of my favorites.

Jamie Ruby:      Okay.

Orlando Jones:   Yes.

Jamie Ruby:      All right. Well, thanks so much.

Orlando Jones:   Thank you. I hope I didn’t bore you too much.

Jamie Ruby:      No, no. (I was just trying to thank you).

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Brad Bernstein:   Okay. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call. And once again, thank
                  you, Orlando, for taking the time to be on this call.

                  Once again, Orlando’s guest starring role in Necessary Roughness starts
                  tomorrow night at 10 o’clock and 9:00 Central on USA Network. Thank you
                  very much.

Orlando Jones:    (Don’t mention it). It will make you rich.

Operator:         Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference call for today. We
                  thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.


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