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					      László Hortobágyi, an interview                           son for collecting the musical monsters and any
           by Miklós Dolinszky                                  other things being apparently horrible is not fata-
                                                                lism, but the wish to understand them, and to see
                                                                and display the expedient alternatives through them.
                       April 2003.
                                                                In the course of the uninhabitable human societies,
                                                                it so happened that the human talent and versatility
         In Miklós Dolinszky: Timequake
                                                                would be mapped mostly here - just take a little look
        - Nine Musicians, Ten Confessions
                                                                at Alhambra’s collection of instruments of torture
     (Osiris Publishing House, Budapest 2004)
                                                                or Norad's navigation softwares - just their authors
         Translation by Zsolt Kosztyu of GUO
                                                                had happened to be born in a world where their ta-
                                                                lent would - nota bene to the present day - ac-
"After 1960 we’ve got 30 years, when history’s reality beco-
                                                                complish itself in that way. About the turn of the
 mes fissured: at this time, all the languages of music, just
                                                                2nd millennium, this structure, that I used to have
  before and after their extinction, were still learnable in
                                                                nicknamed apo-capitalism, will arrive at the consu-
 order to let a new universal music be born through them.
                                                                mer biomass, unified on the surface of our planet,
              But nobody has even noticed it."
                                                                that is similar to classic Hindu caste-system, being
                                                                extremely closed mono-cultured and moving on a
                                         László Hortobágyi
                                                                forced path, these are the mucous mega-city-
                                                                colonies of humanoids. In this, however, interesting
Let’s listen to the Great Fugue. It is almost the same,
                                                                world, the established types of property and the
like 5 liters of blood flowing down the toilet, as op-
                                                                possibilities of social movement articulated by
posed to having a latent demand on activity after a
                                                                them, produce limited castes and personalities im-
concert of Baroque music, or just let me express
                                                                poverished into limited metabolism, along with their
myself in a contemporary way: filled with implanted
                                                                taste, that will consume/destroy the culture and the
positive energies of musical collectivity and ?collo-
                                                                good things in life. The Great Fugue, where the
quial language?. Of course, the Great Fugue is a
                                                                parts as glory of the past still have a meaning, will
danse macabre and a keystone in the European mu-
                                                                project the vertigo universality of scales of Schön-
sic’s cathedral. This world is not the world of Ori-
                                                                berg-reihe, that are being equivalent to each other
ginal Creation any more, but the smashed shape of
                                                                and interchangeable with each other, that is the in-
it, that’s why destruction and art of it are the most
                                                                dustry standard of music, one might say as well.
beautiful here. This kind of art is the art of ana-
                                                                Well, then the "white man's" world would arrive at
tomy and artificially conditioned mal-consciousness
                                                                the materialized ethos of a principle that till then
of human race that will, in our days, offer a rich se-
                                                                had been hidden and existing for centuries in the
lection of materialized consciousness-mutations of
                                                                deep of universal order, and that would make the
the culture monsters of alienation. For me, the rea-
?underlying meaning and behavior” of human acti-         is not a single serious intuitive or even theoretical
vities obvious, namely the logic of an ancient-new       approach, namely an extrapolational theoretical app-
paradigm in the rhyming waves of history’s 200 year      roach, based on the world concept of a valid cultu-
long Kondratiev cycles. That is to say, the principle    ral language. Adorno would easily starve to death.
and practice, according to which the prefabricated       It’s true, that today even the materialized world
components would go in by this door and the car go       music has become a stinking corpse, where the Ke-
out by that door or the people would go in by that       nyan mourners will be mixed by Albanian goat-
gate and bales of soap and hair roll out by that gate    herds, accompanying them on Fairlights, into
- that is the reihe, are the precipitation of the same   Vedantic meditation or goa-trance party composi-
“idea” that will alienate the planetary-individual       tion. Today, behind the so called youth counter-cul-
consciousness created by human being, by this tiny       tures that have been started during the 60ies, you
contaminator of the Galaxy. I would apologize for        can find a global universal expansive roadroller-cul-
trying to express myself in a form of yapping like       ture, that will force all the existing traditional lan-
this. In this world the music seems to be the sweet      guages and particularities down, and that has already
poison of mankind, at the same time it can be con-       eliminated successfully, making it disappear, the
sidered as a litmus paper that is more sensitive to      many-colored experimenting subcultures of the re-
awareness of the society’s life, than any other art or   bellious underground and avant-garde. You could
science.                                                 realize one of the symptomatic enormities of the
                                                         materialized world music even in its initial aspects:
You say in an interview on your web site, that in        it crammed everything, from the most complex 18-
our days there are only some mutants at most,            interval Persian or 22-interval Indian way of octave
who will still listen to Beethoven. Well then, I         division to the polyrhythms of the Far-East, into
know Beethoven more or less, but who are                 the infinitely pitiful four-four, “A-A-B-A-B-A” com-
those mutants?                                           positional form of "white man's" new music. Today,
                                                         it doesn’t matter, whether there is Gamelan or Per-
For example, you or me. Let me get to the bottom         sian music, or an Andean sicu playing on top of the
of the responsibility of musicologists: why do we        grooves: all the traditional musics are eroded into
make ways for swindlers to speak about important         synthesized or sampled timbres. Meanwhile, there
issues? Why doesn’t the high musicology deal with        had been about twenty Baroque orchestras and be-
things that are substantial in music? It was Stockha-    sides them also six mixed skinned Gamelan or-
usen, who already predicted a world-music process        chestras working actively in the Netherlands. For
in the 50ies, but certainly with another ending, and     today, all the Gamelan orchestras have died out, and
in 1949 Cage wrote the Interludes that had in fact a     there are only two of the Baroque orchestras that
Gamelan structure and tonality. In our days, there       are still active. Certainly, here you can also see mu-
tants performing for mutants. For example, in Ame-          zed the Indian-African polyrhythmic way of thin-
rica of the seventies, there was an orchestra on the        king into a reinterpreted and stupefied reincarna-
West Coast called the “Gamelan Son of Lion”, and            tion. In my opinion, the last and similar quasi
after the Banjar orchestras had all disappeared, they       idiomatic product of light music was the live con-
reconstructed the original tunings using the com-           cert of Tangerine Dream’s Ricochet in Notre-
puters of UCLA Ethnomusicology Department,                  Dame. It was a never exceeded cohesion between
then rebuilt the original Gamelan instruments and           the rational European musical traditions and the
composed new compositions for them. Oddly eno-              psychedelic exodus of the youth, where the fugue-
ugh, but some of them are quite listenable.                 ish repetitive structure of the Teuton-conceived
                                                            electronic musical language would meet the ecstatic
Ethnohistoricism?                                           but in this case still sophisticated scream of youth.
                                                            But it was already observable, that the "injury" of
This kind of ingenuity of "white man" is exactly the        the world had already started to break through these
same like New-Age or any new-religio. And while             sounds very much, that means, the performer-com-
the musician, coming from an original village com-          posers would begin to apprehend the already exis-
munity, is murdering his Hawaii guitar in the Shera-        ting global intellectual and social poverty, and the
ton hotel with the horrible "My Way", the                   anomalies of future prospects that were firing and
computers at Stanford University will briskly analyze       fuelling, and would fuel, this whole death agony of
the rendering of mouldered orchestras. So far as            youth. Thus, the initial positive, pure and orthodox
they are able to, though they are convinced of it. It’s     electronic musical approach, though messed up with
true, that they have tried it at least, and thus the dre-   some Oriental humbugs, has stupidly and incredibly
ary truth is going to be realized: the only parts of a      reduced itself on four-fours and loops that are stu-
culture will be able to live on, that the white man         pefying in themselves, where similarly to inhaling
can understand of it. But certainly, it is precious         glue, the only catharsis is the acoustic massaging of
little. Many of the well-intentioned groupings of           kidneys. Musical mapping and consuming of social
that era managed to compose very remarkable pie-            brutality, to the proletarian mp3 inclusive, is going
ces, but these compositions were also transformed           deeper and deeper. In case of Tangerine Dream, the
into inclusions - some cultural "pods" - like the           cost of the equipment, besides the musical know-
quasi-cultural carpet of repetition, that proved to         ledge, is about 10-15.000.000 Marks, and today, in
be a musical language, the last quasi-cultural carpet       the DJ culture, you can actually hit the same target
and aurora borealis of “serious-high” music, for            with a 300 Euro turntable. But it’s true, that the end-
many years. Certainly, it also became clear for many,       less waves of DJs will ruminate here the thousandth
that the basic structures of repetition - copyright by      reincarnation of the many times sold out composi-
Terry Riley or Steve Reich - had practically coloni-        tional forms over and over.
What kind of influence does the development                lightpen. It would be the first real incartanion of the
of technical equipment exercise over the fas-              long desired "live-electronics": a stage, three large
hion of listening music?                                   displays, standard instruments, fast computers and
                                                           - horribile dictu - I can imagine even MIDI cont-
Today, the "bel esprit" target audience will only lis-     rolled acoustic instruments being at hand. The tech-
ten to and buy those compositions of the classical         nology would enable, for the first time, the real
mainstream, for a while (obviously until the totali-       live-electronics, ecstasy and music to be born there
tarian domination of DVD and other formats), that          and then collectively, and feedbacked to the audi-
are performed with original instruments or accor-          ence. Certainly, all that would demand an underlying
ding to an imaginary archaized contemporary kind           collective musical identity and a musical standard
of interpretation. Who knows, for example, the ir-         language, through the subsocial (tribal conscious-
regular masses composed by Tinctoris, a fifth lower,       ness) codedness of which the participants might
according to cantus firmus? Although, recently the         reach the same phase. Here, we would face not the
complete Ockeghem's edition has been published,            private mythological bushfighting of the imaginary
that we can consider a success, but it has to be at-       inner freedom of an uninhabitable world, that
tributed to the fact, that the old hippie generation       everybody desires to leave, or certainly supposed to
will represent a last consumer push for the former         be reached by the music, but a practice of music
owners of master-rights, who are inclined to think         could be realized, instead, that recalls the everydays
that it is worth reprinting on CD all the records          of Baroque music. Obviously, this idea will share
made during the 60ies and 70ies. There is not a real       the fortune of samplers: when a fantastic technical
possibility for new records anymore, new orchestras        device appears, by making use of which an opening
and new interpretations, and if anybody can rem-           can be cut towards the future and the hoped libera-
ember the series of AZ EMI Electrola, Reflex "Stu-         tion of fantasy, and imagination limiting hegemony
dio der Frühen Musik", he/she will see obviously           of factories on timbres and equipment can be bro-
the ethos of our age: there is not a real possibility to   ken through as well, then it turns out that there is
publish J. Tinctoris or Jan Obrecht on DVD or in           nothing to be said yet. We can establish that new,
post DTS-8 formats, Herbert von Karajan is optio-          but in our days merely virtual, cultures are only
nal, unfortunately multioptional. But, let us be a bit     going to be born, when each of the participating
more courageous and think further, on the basis of         elements, and we are speaking about musical ele-
modern technology there could be opened a tiny             ments now, could manage to be built into a similar
hole on the dark sky of music history, that might          one within its own authentic method and cultural
result in performers with instruments and plasma           substance, and emphasizedly within the most genu-
screens, controlling real-time real and virtual inst-      ine authenticity of its language and tone theory
ruments and electronic modules on stage using a            system. Only then, a new quality might appear, that
will, interestingly, work efficiently. There are com-      Well, it would be really interesting to listen to Cle-
mon human poverty and experience hiding (also)             mens Non Papa or Tinctoris on eight channels. The
behind the music of high cultures, that will exceed        problem is that all the shaggy small labels are being
beyond the arts and sciences, exceed far beyond the        eaten up by the majors, who will, in our days, only
people, behind the people, into that horrifying hell,      buy the masters, but won’t publish them, they are
where it used to live and where it has come from.          waiting for the new medium, but there is no global
Here, the common root of cultures, spanning space          new medium. As opposed to the VHS-JVC com-
and time, is nothing else but a millennial distillation    promise (this standard is of course the worst one,
of human misery, that connects, like the thread of         just let the proletarians strain their eyes, it is cheap
Ariadne, the apparently unknown-known inhabited            and widespread), the standards of DVD-audio, alt-
worlds and the common and thousand years old art-          hough there are two of them, haven’t worked out till
technique of escaping from it, where, from the mo-         today, as yet. And if there is something that can’t be
nophonic drum language of the Ga tribe to the              sold in several hundred thousands of pieces, nobody
hundred-register organ built by the French organ           will publish it. But, besides the lack of a new me-
builder master, Cavaille Coll, the underlying content      dium, the variety of real and manipulated demands
is the same. Whether it is a tempered method or a          is also missing. The mediums are expensive. The ma-
22-interval Indian scale that is only the cultural anth-   nufacturing cost of a CD is about a couple of do-
ropological warpping. By the time, the technology,         zens of cents, but in the shop you have to pay about
through the creation of a new reality, enables the         20-40 Euros for it. It means that nobody will buy it;
redemption of the world, the fuel tanks of the the-        instead they will copy it worldwide. The golden age
ories building up the new reality will become empty,       of CD has expired approximately three years ago.
and the experiences of the traditional cultures and        Everything was sold out, what they could, but no
lifestyles will have died off long ago.                    new, progressive or even a reinterpreted Beethoven
                                                           recording were published any more, I mean, not any-
It is really shocking, that you say. Till now, I           more on CD and still not on DVD. Certainly, I am
have been in the belief that our problem is, in            speaking about new audio recordings and not video
fact, that we preserve everything. I mean, we              recordings of the concerts. As regards the ques-
are able only to preserve. That the overgrowth             tion, here we can see two interesting contexts: if a
of preserving techniques will bring us the last            musicologist coming from the Tau Ceti looks over
hour of the culture, because the techniques will           the recent and current repertoires of the academy
not allow us to put the burden of our future               of music, and besides that the ones of the perfor-
down. On the other hand you insist on that clas-           mers, he/she will arrive at the inevitable conclusion,
sical music cannot be continued by means of                that before J. S. Bach there has not lived a single
the latest sound technology.                               composer and existed a single music on this planet.
And here, let’s beneficially take no notice of com-      am speaking exactly of this forced path in general.
posers of big South-Indian church orchestras that        Of course, there always will be five people, who are
have declined till around the turn of the first Mil-     using the available but not military-purpose tech-
lennium, or Japanese gagaku composers, who have          nology for the very purpose it serves. One thing re-
been also eluded by the square beam of high musi-        mains certain, that these everyday or musical
cology. Thus, the musical harvest of Romanticism         technologies (otherwise, the products of computer
became part or the current musical high culture, but     technology developments, after the military appli-
this kind of zombistic musical culture was far not       cations and after becoming out of date, will appear
suitable for cathartic modeling of reality. Here, seen   here at first) are not for us. It is suitable for a rate of
from the side of quality of music, it is very infor-     profit to be imposed, that is necessarily sufficient to
mative and it is worth comparing the innate              make the world of our days work, and it is artisti-
rhythmic performance of an Afghan sarod player           cally planned by the talent of anonymous engineers
with ergonomical-mimicking choreography of a             until the lower limit of usability. See Windows etc.,
contemporary or even classical piano piece, or com-      that is shit in its entirety. Here you can see another
paring the sound collection of an acid-goa party         well known specialty of our age: the designers of
with the homogeneity of the orchestral sounding,         the menstruating Barbie doll will appear in the
where, otherwise, in parallel with the emptying of       media as real everlasting artists, but who knows the
the content the packaging is becoming more and           construction engineers of the Hubble telescope?
more important, see the symphonies of Mahler.                    Today, a big company will manufacture a
        The structure of classical European music        product with the same awareness, with which the
and the abilities of its composers are outstanding,      cathedrals have been built up earlier, and when a
but constitute a precious cultural inclusion of mi-      corporation scents the possibility, the most terrible
nority on this planet named Earth, which has taken       nightmares of the futurologists will come true im-
possession of a language, that is fulfilling the deve-   mediately.
lopment and self-determining, and that is impos-                 By the way, the onboard computers of F-16,
sible to be influenced by modern technology,             manufactured already in the 80ies in Korea on li-
though many have attempted it. By the time it be-        cense, were able to calculate the possible spatial co-
came possible, for example, to orchestrate in real       ordinates of impact of three heat missiles, while
time the contrapunctus of Palestrina’s type with the     controlling the supersonic autopilot, that means a
help of a Synclavier, that has, by the way, become       difficult topologic extrapolation, and at the same
bankrupted since then, namely, to render the struc-      time they were communicating with the satellite of
ture of a tradition, being well known but not living     the relevant eighth earth segment, in order to load
any more, into a new music, nobody would ever            the local topographical details into the computer’s
think of that. Obviously, it is not accidental that I    CPU. Well, in those days we were experiencing the
"blessings” of Sinclair and Commodore 16 compu-            sentence from his/her papers. There are a lot of
ters, with 64K memory capacity.                            extremely smart and clever military, gaming and
        Certainly, the quality costs a lot, and starting   spion programs in existence (e.g. the obsolete Eche-
from here the whole action radius is sociologically        lon or the new Lacrosse system), but nobody knows
determined, because only those will buy it who can         one that would make proposals, based on real soci-
afford it, and those who can afford it, will never         ological data, on abortion law, tax regulations, re-
care. And finally, we are back to the five mutants         vaccination or hormone preparations etc., for a
that are using the technology to listen to Ockeghem.       fat-headed committee. Because is not existing real
But then, the snake bites its own tail, because this       sociological datas, of course. Instead, what remains
kind of a new reality can be defeated only through         is the all-destroying parliamentary cretenism and the
techniques created by that new reality.                    dirty morals.
        An artist will, or should, apply technology to              Although, through the utilization of Inter-
reconstruct the reality. The human being is able to        net, there would be possible to reconsider the civic
rebuild the universe, but lives in a collective impasse,   participation within the collective structure. Here,
where his/her thoughts will be moving along an in-         the real wish of society could manifest itself in se-
herited track, and when the winds of history is dri-       conds. I would predict for sure: for a while, the In-
ving all the masterminds into a huge western stable,       ternet suppliers are not going to install new servers
then the scientists and artists will stoop to be swines    for the sake of that kind of solutions. In this reso-
of the big companies and the military blocks, and          unding world of computer technology, only the
hereby it is decided what kind of future these minds       most important locations are not supplied with
and the products of their science-arts will create.        computers. I must repeat it: the society and culture
        As the platitude says, ?we are living in the age   of the world are moving in a path they have been
of computer technology?, but I have never seen any         forced to take. There is no word of divine punish-
government in the world, whose social governing            ment or predestination, our situation is shaping up
or parliamentary processes would be supported by           according to the most prosaic physical parameters.
a computer controlled decision making software.            Since there is not a single place where the current
The only exception was Stafford Beer and the               governmental and global decision making is going
Cybersyn experiment in Chile. Certainly this project       to rely on the reality, and there is only the rule of
was feasible only in 1970, but since then the corpo-       collective mal-consciousness in existence, so some
rations? ranks would close. A well written program         certain lateral shiftings of the society are a matter
supported by sociological inputs could impartially         of mere chance. Thus, it is not the human intelli-
consider the economic, social and cultural conditi-        gence that builds up the civilization, but the chances
ons of a given country. In any case, more effecti-         and disasters are drifting us towards an irrational fu-
vely than the representative who will say a stupid         ture.
To avoid any misunderstandings, this is not pessi-        make a still unpredictable quantity of experience to
mism, but the actual and inescapable direction of         be sold out in the form of sampled and digitalized
the development of human societies.                       stories. E.g. series of masterpieces, entitled "The
                                                          Corpse Eating Germ", "Chermophag Games" and
In our days, does the technology have a langu-            "Alien's G-point". Here you are some fictive soft-
age or community forming power?                           wares: "Compaq de Sade", "The Little Inquisitor",
                                                          "I, Himmler", "Cocalia", "Softnirvana", "Hyberna-
 Absolutely! If we think of the network communi-          culum", "Cyborgia'sm", etc. The hackers, who had
ties downloading pornography or games, then the           really ingeniously hacked Pentagon secret web sites,
answer is "yes". But the answer is also positive, if in   only were able to afford to write there: "Lick my
a helmet having the fancy name of "Virtual Graal          arse!", instead of downloading all the secret infor-
Helmet" we think of swapping via Internet the im-         mation and sending up to a satellite, so that anybody
pulse samples of frequencies locating a "brain            can access it. During this early stage of the Net’s de-
synthesizer", i.e. the brain's theta waves through a      velopment, the last spots of freedom seemed to sur-
software, then synchronizing them with a machine          vive for a moment in the hacker’s tiny "pods", but
and using as a music, or examine the web sites of         that was all that the cyber knight-errants could do.
different terrorist, pedophile or religious organiza-              Thus, the question is, just to come to the
tions. At the same time, we have to use our Moe-          point, whether the ability and creative power, exp-
bius-mind: obviously, the usage of the technology is      ressed during the evolution into man in the limit-
based on the unconscious priorities of a collective       less creation of posthuman kingdom comes and
structure, and it is a feedback that will restrict its    techniques, is a part of the hominid natural history
usage: a software technology that would model the         or basic program, or is one of the possible mani-
structure of Viking or Javanese village communities       festations of the original mal-consciousness of the
or the score of an 80-member church orchestra of          human race. Is it worth at all meditating on whether
the Guptan age still doesn’t exist.                       the mal-consciousness is inevitable, and is there any
        On the other hand, just for the sake of ma-       need for artificial mal-consciousness? It is described
king some jovial remarks, there might as well exist       fantastically by the Old Egyptian winged spirit (ka),
some indivirtual satellite channels, the encoded          that will, still not in a form of a Christian dove, leave
programs of which could be enjoyed in so called           the body, the early representation of the soul’s alie-
personal tubs (?Personal Grave?), in hot water with       nation, or the spiritual praxis of the Tibetan monk,
salt solution and a respiratory mask, an intravenous      being locked up in a dark cell for years, and who,
infusion, that would be the "sleg". The VirtuAlien        during the final stage of his initiation, will materia-
helmet programs, i.e. VideoDrams that can be clic-        lize his or his chosen god's earthly counterpart in a
ked into the slot implanted behind the ears, will         form, that is perceivable for others.
Yes, but the possibility of a certain total cont-          controlled) and virtual soundmodules simultaneo-
rol also lies in that kind of application, and not         usly, consequently you don’t need any studio or tho-
particularly secretly, as the example of Eche-             usands of other different machines, cables and
lon illustrates. On the other hand, if I am not            connections. Music is overcoming a dramatic
mistaken, the "live-electronics" would serve as            change, never heard virtual, acoustic worlds are
a means to reconcile and surmount the techno-              going to be materialized. Here, I see a breaking thro-
logy and the community.                                    ugh, and we can expect great composer-wrapper
                                                           from this area.
A lot of very interesting things are happening, but                The usage of music will become totally dif-
still not in a controlled way. The real face and dis-      ferent, though not in its language, as all the rhythms,
torted way of thinking of the science are reflected        tonalities and tones have quite limited assortments,
in the arts that are seemingly not connected with it,      but in that it will be used as pleasure cosmetics. The
since its musical mapping, that is on the same intel-      waves after the World War II have consumed all of
lectual level, would be an exceedingly complex and         the compositional forms from the most abstract to
complicated polyphonic and polyrhythmic system.            the stupidest, all of them have been repeatedly ex-
Instead, what you can hear: noise-music, senseless         hausted. Music cannot develop automatically in the
beating with the four-four till the end of time, ratt-     direction of complexity, it will never reach the In-
ling goa-loops that is hurling the reality into your       dian polyrhythm, although the complexity of the
face. In our days, it is quite bewildering, how the        world would justify it. Since, because of the recep-
plebeian human’s consciousness will sublimate this         tivity and sociological combination of the masses,
horrible tangible world: it creates pleasure-palaces       nor a high culture can be established, only repacka-
and fantastic edifices, well, not in the reality, of co-   ging of compositional forms created by the existing
urse, but virtually. And the reason why music is the       primitive cultures of youth can be realized.
most specific among all the culture creating virtual               However, as the collective live application of
worlds, because it is an existing physical kingdom         the new technology and the software electronics
come. In parallel with the technical development,          have failed to be realized till now, so I am not con-
we are becoming owners of almost limitless possi-          fident at all, and I am sorry to say it, that a collective
bilities, where anybody can create any sound in any        language of music could come to existence in the
kind of quality. Of course, the usage of computers         nearest future. Otherwise, I am of that strictly pri-
and softwares are crucially influenced by how stupid       vately spread opinion that almost all of the musical
is their owner, but the youth receives a magic-pen-        languages of the high arts, that have been existing
cil now. Inside the computers, a kind of worksta-          till now, and their underlying ecstasy are transhu-
tion is going to develop, where you have access to         man. And now, let’s play about with one of the pos-
the collection of audio (that is living), MIDI (that is    sible future prospects of "serious" music: the
transhuman musical language of humans, who are             hough the assortment seems to be enormous, all the
genetically also modified and are distorted by the         underlying process serve the same purpose: the in-
everyday practice of western societies of our days,        tellectual withdrawal, the exode from this dreary
could be as follows: the computer part is, as a mat-       world. Suddenly, the different layers of the society
ter of fact, ready, and if there is something in our       will find the "common denominator". It doesn’t
age that is capable of development, then these are         mean anything, that you consider the way that dif-
the generations of the computer breeds. They will          ferent styles are using the means, or the musical
unfold the brain and the musical impulses of it, and       technology of that styles, they will always speak
this is going to be the Consociator helmet. Today, it      about the same thing. And there is another paradox
is still called Virtual Reality. The new transhuman        manifested here: the most abstract and unique way
musical language should be a language and techno-          of searching for the heaven will be executed by the
logy that is asymmetric, bitonal, applying more            most brutal physical impact, we can’t see here the
tempi simultaneously, but applying "in phase inver-        sophisticated and complicated musical texture yet,
ted" mechanical polyrhythms, synchronized with the         that will dandle into catharsis everybody who wishes
human alpha and theta waves, but using more di-            to exit, like in the case of hypnotic French organ
mensional space-algorithms, implementing more              music around the turn of the century. The acoustic
channel mapping and performance. But it is going           pleasure and the bowels and kidneys massaging, en-
to be nothing of that kind, because this sort of mu-       joyable bass can be considered as a sign indicating
sical language would demand a new humankind.               the changing of music history. Since, there have
Hence, the future of music may be symbolized, with         never been as good deep sounds in the music as
a real prophetic reliability, with Sisyphus’ rock. Ne-     that, sometimes I do visit the parties for the reason,
vertheless, it is said that the musical rhythms, the       too, that I would suppose to enjoy the current we-
pulsation of acid parties, the cavemen’s fire, but also    ek’s "apocalypse of the world” in hearing the num-
works of K. Barlow or György Ligeti are all map-           bing basses. Gone back retroactively until the
ping the brain’s physical biocurrent voltage fluctua-      antiquity, the music would always give an inside ple-
tion.                                                      asure through aesthetic and mathematical-acoustic
         Consequently, as much as the Indian society       ratios, rhythms and sounds perceived by the ears.
is characterized by introvertism, the fossilized mal-      The breakthrough of modern music lies in the fact,
consciousness of the fictive inner freedom, so only        that its intellectual mesh and associative abilities are
the transcendental, hypnotic and static musics will        ceasing, it is falling into this "cavemenish" massive
also be built into the world of music that follows         world of rhythm, so it will produce external effects
the above mentioned “serious” music. From among            being expressed in bombing and massaging the
the entire available styles, it is only the psychedelic,   flesh acoustically. The enjoyment of music will ma-
"druggie" trend that is going to be weeded out. Alt-       nifest itself not in the individual inner catharsis, but
in the change of blood circulation and rapid rising       armchair saying that they were owners of an exclu-
of adrenaline production. At the same time, this          sive language and parts of a high culture of mino-
kind of external influence serves actually the most       rity. It was a mistake to reorchestration the
inner exode. And the emerging demand for it is end-       Fibonacci sequence for the twentieth time, because
less, global and steadily growing.                        that was not meant for the human physiology, and
                                                          it was a mistake to turn deaf ear to extra-European
Frankly spoken, there is an extremely develo-             musics, when there was a possibility to get acquain-
ped potential, that will further petty or unrea-          ted with them. The above mentioned orchestral sco-
sonable objects.                                          res apply only for the given composition, they are
                                                          crowded with disposable signs concerning the per-
Contemporary classical music, after its extinction,       formance, and can be performed only by learning a
still has bequeathed us an experience: this kind of       private code only. This is a parallelism of private
music (like any other science in the high culture) is     hells, while the composer, having a strong class-
ahead of the world in terms of all of its musicians       consciousness, is sitting in the armchair, and in
and composers have reached the end 30 years ago,          his/her gray solitude he/she is angry with the world
when their private heaven would run into the wall         that is providing for him/her for shorter or longer
of reality, and that was the starting point of the de-    periods, and he/she would believe its countless
velopment of an interesting musical ethology: the         emptied hocus-pocusses. At the same time, it is re-
bushfighting of private mythologies. There have           markable, that we render the structure of these mu-
been evolving incredibly developed musicological          sics into the reality of machines or apply them to
knowledge and composing techniques, and the gro-          the world of computers in vain, they won’t work
ups of composers or even the orchestral scores            there anyway, and nobody cares, because it is the
made around IRCAM, however unlistenable they              same individually anomaly language, like the one
are, would represent the culmination of the human         that the generation sunk into Virtual Reality helmets
mind, and they are the gems of the European spirit        will own.
in the overall culture of the world. The composing
techniques have reached that terminal point, where        In comparison with it, what kind of intellectual
they, obscured by fog of their own entity, will dwell     basis will world music start from?
on the top of their own Parnassus, like individual
and meaningless universes. The graphically attrac-        On the eve of the globalization, the historical rea-
tive orchestral scores are similar to huge armaments,     lity has become fissured, it happens not too often,
but I could also mention a "willie rivalry" in the kin-   and we have got a historical opportunity to com-
dergarten, if wouldn't feel empathy. The classical        pare and understand with the help of the changed
musicians made a mistake that they sat down in an         way of thinking and the modern technology the co-
existing and co-existed musical languages of the          world made uninhabitable by us. The eternal soft-
world. This opportunity applied not only to music.        ware of the ancient instinct, the technique of "en-
Still before the set-in of the postmodern, I call it an   tering the picture" by performing a complete
apo-capitalistic, consumer caste-system, right before     somersault, that is an invention of an ancient Chi-
the traditional cultures considered as the iridescent     nese poet, the "trance-forever" by means of a vir-
reflections of the past would have died out, and a        tual helmet, that reminds of the mole-cricket-like
deformed western world, becoming caste-like, built        head of the Alien, just to defeat the daily reality with
up: as a last psychedelic pushing of the 60ies, there     the help of the fashion, the drugs and the science,
was a period, when the big theory of comparative          and where punk, having still a class rage filled with
musical synthesis, worthy of the European musical         social feeling, will turn against itself instead of the
culture, could have been born, similarly to the se-       caste-rigid and unchangeable social reality (that is
arch for the Universal Theory of physical science.        where the fashion of safety-pins transforms itself
There was 25-30 years for this purpose. And never         into the acidic fashion of piercings, actually cove-
more. Before that, there had been the self-determi-       ring the whole body, just like in the case of ecstatic
ning and impermeable world of traditional feudal          dervishes, including even the intimate parts of the
cultures and the narrow-minded, Europe-centric            body, fashion of colored contact lenses, body plas-
world concept of the bourgeois society, then, after       tics and tattoo), and where, and this is of cardinal
their decay, there came the similarly impermeable         importance, we can see the emergence of all the cli-
homogeneous, conformist-narrow world of the               chés and misunderstandings of the non-European
new global multiculture. At that threshold point of       cultures in the form of ?World-Music?. At about
the historical course, there appeared for the first       this time, there occurred the "white man's" last me-
and, at the same time, last time the chance for this      eting, among others, with the Indian music, when
synthesis, that is, otherwise, contradictionary to the    from the second part of the 50ies this kind of
reality and true only in its possibilities. But nobody    music, in view of its entirety and origin, was identi-
has even noticed it.                                      fied by, among others, from John Cage to Yehudi
                                                          Menuhin and The Beatles with a minority, but con-
And what happened instead?                                sidering the performer, Pandit Ravi Shankar, inge-
                                                          nious slice of it. Though the extinction of the
When after 1968, for the quieted shaggy minority          traditional Indian schools had already commenced
there is only one way remaining, that leads towards       around the turn of the century in parallel with the
the inside, and even the ashrams of the great soult-      disappearance of the mahárája courts, this kind of
raders have become emptied, then there comes              misunderstanding of classical Indian music by
another chapter of and scheduled need for, or a           "white man's" consumption could also lead to the
small degenerate revolution of, desertion out of the      development of a consumable Indian music that
was comparable with the global “conform-idioma-          duce or transmit. And while the above mentioned
tism” of the awful pop industry. And in this way,        Indian music is an intellectual exode of a thousand-
however, the very essence of the Indian music is fa-     year-old development from this uninhabitable
ding away, that is nothing else, than a fantastically    world, now the similar attitude of acid music will
sophisticated, ancient and ecstatic human scream,        guide us to the consumers praxis of weekend libe-
being the mathematical purity and Heaven in itself,      ration and alienation of body and soul, incited from
and if You allow me to tell my opinion, I would say,     outside, i.e. it appears as a more up-to-date techno-
if the Hell exists, there is Indian music playing, for   logy of the “art of desertion”.
sure. In the world, Indian and Gamelan music have                 That is how the modern technology and the
the most stringent mathematics, where none of the        extra-European music elements, constituting a light
notes are improvisative and in particular meditative.    mix, will appear simultaneously in the daily practice
Here, every composition will be concreted into the       of the so called ?World Music?, and on the digital
repertoire by age-old repetitions, and still: the per-   carriers of alienation and artificial mal-conscious-
former or the Javan orchestra will never be able to      ness, in the form of samplers, Virtual D-Sound Hel-
play the same music twice in the same way. This is       met, DVD, and CD-ROMs containing sounds and
the ocean of freedom, where all the participants,        programs.
like engineers of the kingdom come, will build up                 Now, let me please quote, for a moment,
the monumental, transcendent cathedral of Indian         from the commentary of my CD booklet, that
music of tiny little rational pavements and units.       would like to represent deliberately that possible
The whole Schönberg line (reihe) is a Teuton barbed      and, in my opinion, shortly ensuing future: The San-
wire Walhalla compared to the Gamelan structure.         geet Novus Sensus has been composed for a socio-
The "white man's" ergonomic detachedness from            ethno musicologist coming from the Eridanus
the music’s original ecstatic factor, together with      constellation 200 years later to our Earth. This
his/her alienated scream, would become evident,          demo was produced in 1995-1996 in the former
and at the same time naturally delicious, through the    East-Europe as a reflection of the sociological ex-
sounding of the 32? Bombarde pipes of Cavaille           perience having been obtained in the late 20th cen-
Coll organs. Let’s refer for a moment to the prog-       tury. Its technological basis was a PCM morphology
ressive but already also disappearing rave, goa          using up the old FFT spectrum-analysis as an algo-
trance, acid and psychedelic dub music of our days.      rithm controller and virtual overtone-synthesis soft-
Music is a physical "drug" that cannot be replaced       ware developed by me. Here appears the music as a
by anything else. You can get ratios through your        physiological sóma (sleg), that seems to be one of
ears, constructions are penetrating into your brain,     the potential acoustical solutions of abandonment
and there can be born feelings - without any drugs       from the earthly reality and of the generating the
- that none of the other organs of sense could in-       social-moebius-mind based on my "computer mé-
mesis" technology. The modular goa-electronics, the      superseded by others. I wonder, if the world
matrix topology of tablá-méms, synthesized carci-        music, that intervenes in the spirit of synthe-
nogen PCM sequences, the Hindusthán style of the         sis, indeed has the synthesizing power. The
astral-hallucinogen orchestration or the polyphonic      ranking of the high-class music, that was
application of the analyzed interstellar noise spect-    named later by the title of classical music, had
rum samples or the geometric fractal loops induced       been assured exactly by the integrating capabi-
by Zipi programming and the Pythagorean metho-           lity that made it possible to raise and reconcile
dology of the sound mixing - all have spun a mé-         different musics in a way, that it didn’t deny the
metic cobweb around the average phosphorescent           used elements, rather organized them into an
acid-consciousness having been grow in conse-            advanced unity, justifying them hereby. This
quence of the alienation trend in this century, so the   kind of capability was made possible by the
Sangeet Novus Sensus appears as a refined "prána         complexity of composing techniques of the
of transociete" of the millennium. Later on, when        high-class music. The principal issue for me is,
the humanoid consciousness transplanted into net-        that the world music, lacking that kind of tech-
works and the human race settled down into the           niques, indeed has the power to synthesize. Be-
stratosphere of Jupiter - in those days the original     cause if not, then instead of synthesis it can
frequency algorithms of the music being converted        only boast of the doubtful virtue of syncretism.
into laser needle impulse were plugged in the            I have the feeling, that world music (of what,
synapse of the human neuron outcome and they             according to your opinion, we should speak al-
were stimulated by thousands of 3D-16 Hz BPM             ready in the past tense) is speaking on the one
impulse/minute - there began a new area of the           hand about the final disappearing of traditio-
music history and the hidden meaning of Sangeet          nal cultures of music, and on the other hand,
Novus Sensus became as an ethnological nightmare         about the absence of a uniform standard lan-
of the past.                                             guage of music without being able to replace
                                                         it. We had taken out the wall being among
(Remembrance of LH, entitled The Virtual Memesis of      them, but it turned out, that they would die at
Music, in Technomusicology 2019/IV. pp.709-128., Oc-     that very moment. For me, the birth of the cul-
tober issue.)                                            tural and technical conditions of world music
                                                         will rather document the extinction of local lan-
In one of your interviews you complained that            guages, than the birth of a new standard lan-
no synthesis was existing among the different            guage. The unification is talking about, as a
musical styles, and the reason for that is, that         matter of fact, the disruption. Because, the
they have a too short lifetime, and by the time          synthesis can just be created among different
we could realize the synthesis, a style would be         things having strongly marked features. But be-
hind the softy, lukewarm proximity and the               fill my days to this very day. The dual beam of view,
"everything resembles everything" kind of at-            that is underlying your questions and their meaning,
titude towards life, there is actually hiding the        will reveal exactly the same alternativeless and see-
experience of strangeness, that is, we may sa-           mingly predestinated and illogical socio-musicolo-
fely be close to each other, we won’t reach each         gical "development", or rather the contradiction, of
other anyway, or translated into the language of         the realized World Music, that I have thought to
music: we are not able to create a standard lan-         open up. It is nonsense, but I have to say, that this
guage anyway, that is above all cultures.                new World Music should have been created by mu-
                                                         sicologists and those, who are still thinking, that the
It’s a very good issue, and actually we are speaking     traditions of music can be preserved despite the de-
about the same thing, when I am crying some vag-         velopment of society. Pronouncing the word "de-
rant tears about the missing of the chance that we       velopment", I am absolutely unsure about the
once have been historically allowed to have. It is not   properly justified omission of the usage of quota-
a secret for us, that globalization and "multi culti"    tion marks.
are only the "white men's" mania and invention, and
this fact will justify both meanings of your afore-      But if they are rescuable, what is the synthesis
said sentences. But as concerns the culture, in the      for?
spirit of ethnomusicologism of the beginning of
the 20th century, only that part of it is able to live   There is or may be a possibility or necessity (if any)
on, the white man could record. The English ma-          for synthesis, and it may be only realized, when
naged to record, among railroading, murdering and        there is no conventional ethos, colloquial language
ruining the Bengali jute industry, some musical          and culture between humans and their collective
events, too. If they didn’t do, we would know not-       structures. The composers of Tibetan church music
hing about Bengal life of music of the 18th century.     used to compose their music on 8-9 minutes long
         When I was travelling around India, in con-     music periods having 72 BPM tempo, and those
nection with music, my only advantage was that I         compositions were written down in orchestral sco-
was a white man. I refused to record as a quasi ve-      res. Or, I may mention Ustád Amir Khán of Indore,
getarian inhaling the vapors of millennial Hindu         who used to have rendered his vocal compositions
philosophies and a believer of these "truths" the        in a 56/4 tála.
musical events, but I intended to interpret the things           Actually, I could continue enumerating
with wide-eyed astonishment and comparative abi-         examples like this, with tears in my eyes, till tomor-
lity of an E.T., at the same time with all my heart,     row night, but I have to ask: where is the human
with feeling and with that kind of helpless an-          species of our days, besides mutants of course, for
noyance about the senseless destruction that would       whom this kind of historical, but still learnable mu-
sical practice would mean a tormenting daily requi-        would think, but I am still of the opinion, that the
rement. But it is a certainty, that the peculiarities of   construction I have set up would accomplish a real
musical way of thinking, which are deemed to un-           global colloquial language of music, certainly only
derstand and still found by a musicologist in the still    then if the historical development of our planet
existing practice of great Asian musical culture of        would be different from the present one, because
our days, well, those peculiarities could never be re-     the source of that is nothing else but the similar at-
invented or rediscovered again as a musical practice       titude of colloquial languages of human arts, scien-
of later ages. And I consider them timeless, floating      tifically speaking: its "behavior" will be implanted
and closed universal worth entities, even if the na-       into a global culture in a digital way of orchestra-
tural progress of human culture will throw away            tion of modern times. If it so happens, then there
those conceptual-musical constructions in garbage          could be emerge a new uniform colloquial language
of history.                                                of world music in the spirit of a genuine world-vil-
         At the same time, and this is another argu-       lage, when all the participant element would be as-
ment for the realization of synthesis I am concei-         sembled in their original quality, namely, in their
ving of, the social-cultural attitude toward life of       own subsistent authentic schemes and cultural me-
contemporary western-global societies is, in my opi-       diums and preserving their own system of langua-
nion, remarkably close to the underlying meaning           ges and sound theories. When hell freezes over,
of Asian composed music. Thus, as part of my opi-          certainly. But, as we already reviewed, because of
nion, I also believe that the synthesis becoming pos-      the known social shackles, such illusions had no
sible partly on the basis of natural history of            possibility of appearing in the human minds earlier,
vanishing Asian traditional compositional forms            and according to my primitive predictions, nor the
being developed by history in an unrepeatable way,         new global order provides an adequate ground for
that is, for the reason of physico-acoustic universa-      that kinds of thoughts either. That is, instead of re-
lity been refined on the distillates of the centuries-     alization of the desirable but for the moment ho-
old misery of feeble human being, and partly               peless perspective of fading of the state and instead
through this kind of modern boundaryless of in-            of collapsing of societies into independent, small
formation, would be particularly suitable for cat-         entities with no central administration, into small,
hartic representation of our world. So far as music        ecological communities having informatical and inf-
serves that purpose.                                       rastructural relations with each others and having
         Naturally, I am fully aware that all of this is   their own freely elected hierarchy, certainly without
a private illusion of our age, a kind of surviving         any nations or borders, but today just the opposite
strategy that has only an obvious, and hereby dee-         of it is gaining strength by way of Vishnu-wain of
med feasible, opportunity in the culture of these          the globalization trend, and only the borderlessness
days, but certainly it is a hopeless undertaking. Who      and the global power of big companies pulling the
strings is going to be materialized from that. And           argument for the exceptionality of our age, because
there is no conflict between the autonomous but              it is not sure that the brains of our grandchildren
atomized communities and the unified World-                  will be ruffled by the late gothic polyphony.
Music, that system has already been tested for a lon-                As the structure of Hindu-Muslim classical
ger time in China, India, Indonesia etc.                     music won’t become an essential part of the culture
                                                             of future, along with Ockeghem's contrapunctus,
One the thing I am in doubt about is that this               so beside the furious archiving the participation in
alleged common denominator could be con-                     a synthesis appears, but of course only gradually, to
verted into audible music. In my opinion, the                be the only pledge of survival. The present direction
universal features can only become audible in                of music history is determined by the final techni-
form of special features. Is it certain, that those          cization of music, the domination of mass culture
features are salvageable?                                    and the complete and osmotic absorption of sub-
Certainly not in this real world, because all the                    The ones, who are understanding the langu-
things are being destroyed here. Like King Kong,             age of European classical music, will find themsel-
we will fetch him and then kill him, because he do-          ves in a social quarantine, and their situation is
esn’t behave properly. This new kind of culture is           similar to the segregated order of Indian pillar saints
the same.                                                    or yogas: they are capable of standing on one leg
         While I am speaking of the common deno-             for ten years as well. Some of them will compose pi-
minator of conceptual structures of cultures, that           eces for an investment fund or insurance company,
are disappearing because of the selectional nature           others will descend and change the composing tech-
of our history, and the synthesis built up from their        nique magically into surviving technique, making
saved elements, now let’s say for Ockeghem that              time travels and opening private ways towards an
would be the best, if numerous choirs were singing           other world, towards the world of desired freedom
his choruses even in hundred years? time. There is           and survival. For today, it can be said, and this is
still a chance, but it is precious little. A futurological   true in case of each the so-called human arts, that
question: whether there will remain so many and              practicing the arts is a kind of pottering in a crate
that kind of mutant strata, for whom the structure           full of pissy sand, that is enjoyable and important
of Ockeghem is still of great importance? I have no          only for the creator.
illusions about that. An exceptional gift of our be-                 At the same time, the youth’s musical atti-
loved age is that I already and still have the possibi-      tude has also changed fundamentally, here the so-
lity to listen to Ockeghem, whom I would like to             called intellectual pleasure originating from the
consider this time a symbol of things that are im-           traditional practice of music is replaced with drugs,
portant for us from this world, and this is a further        and the music of today will provide only the acous-
tic stimulus for that. As a matter of fact, we may         daily reality, and this is the secret of the nowadays
hardly speak about music here: the main point is not       culture of the youth. Well then, this is our residual
the structure anymore, but representing it on a level      colloquial language, this radical way of refusal, since
of energy, an acoustic petting that will immediately       the real world will not be doubted, not for a second,
invoke the collective, but for today only a conscious      and it would not even come up that something sho-
level, revolution during the fold-warm hangar par-         uld be improved or done in a different way. Even if
ties, where all the participants will depart towards       for a couple of hours, we begin to function as a
the dark inner spaces of the individual, and where         human, and we will feel as if our stamina that have
there is only the chitin-shell of a smashed ego that       been tapped by day would regenerate during the
is waiting for the ones wishing to be freed.               night, how symbolic it is, but in fact it is also an
         Their and our brains have already been            enormous wasting of human lifes.
smashed into shivers by these new chapters of the                  The drugs, in fact, instead of connecting pe-
media and the consumer culture. It comes natural           ople to this meta-language will coagulate that. If we
to this new generation to exit this world sometimes        make intelligent observation and we are capable of
by the help of a pill, sometimes by the help of the        grace of satori, then we will realize that in this world
volume of sound or a reincarnated philosophy. In           everything is true in an upside-down way.
terms of social presence it is almost the same. From
the given alternatives, those kids will choose, other-     Consequently, it is the drugs that dictate the
wise for totally obvious reasons, the only possible        styles of music.
one, since no kind of political, social, physical or ar-
tistic articulation has a chance against the power, the    The chemistry. The underground, as a matter of
methods of profit-making and the multinational             fact, is realized here in the industry. The there pro-
mechanisms. The asylum of the youth looking for            duced incredibly fine chemical nostrums, that ba-
a sensitive and habitable world, is the acid party, the    rely induce addiction, have completely brought the
hangar, where they could find momentary human              styles of music under their power. Thus, the realized
warmth and an ancient community, even if they              small tribal standard language is as follows: to enter
won’t touch the one who is writhing by his/her side.       the "painting" and ab ovo leave this uninhabitable
T        hey intensify this general feeling by means       world. I think nobody may say that they are not
of pills, in order to join this big, common and ecs-       right. Otherwise, the situation is already worse now
tatic fold-warmth as easy as possible. Because, for        compared to classic acid parties, and we are going to
some reason it is still the presence of the other pe-      loose even this kind of hangar-community. Those
ople that would keep the human life on an accep-           small communities just begin to disintegrate and the
table temperature. And this is the reason why we           remainders are being transferred to the Internet. In
need a kind of social ecstasy that overcomes the           order to understand this everyday kingdom come
and the daily-culture forming role played by drugs in      synchronize them with the generator and by means
it, just let me reveal the situation. The turning          of a stereoscopic sound using three dimensional al-
rhythms used non-deliberately by authentic techno          gorithms (see Convolution or the famous Convo-
music of our days are shifted form the metronome           volvotron) you can synchronize your own alpha,
beats by a sixteenth - sometimes thirty-second note        beta etc. waves with timbres and frequencies of vir-
-, and the shift is kept constantly and through peri-      tual synthesizers. Two bundles of sounds get sud-
ods, or in each period the entire rhythmic formula         denly in phase, you touch the "G-point" of your
is turned over and over, just like in Indian tablá         brain and you become staggered. Undoubtedly, you
compositions. And this kind of opiate is the quin-         have already perceived your blood pressure rising or
tessence, an approach which is floating but requi-         falling unexpectedly, and you have lost the control
ring rational knowledge and will lead to the wished        for a moment. Just imagine the same, periodically
heaven. Here, exactly the same way like in the In-         for hours, with oriental, statically monotonous
dian music, the polyrhythmic lift-off from the basic       rhythms, tones, stereoscopic acoustic, and on top
rhythmic beat turns round in relation to the whole         of it all, put together according to your most per-
bar, and arrives after x bars on the first beat of the     sonal demands. You can totally send yourself into a
given period, that is nothing else but defeating the       trance by means of sound having different spect-
reality, the levitation of the soul.                       rum-structures, and thereby the human being is
         It is exactly the same, as 3D-pictures, you are   going to create his/her own private, infernal audio-
just scrutinizing it, and focusing on it, and then sud-    heaven.
denly you are inside. The jazz, for example, will                   In the nowadays disappearing breakbeat, for
never accomplish anything, because it is the langu-        example, all kinds of very sharp saw wave tones are
age of onanism. The electronic techno or dub are           used having an overtone structure that makes you li-
the rational language of the collective kingdom            terally totter when you are listening to it in your he-
come, thus, it will transfer you to that other world.      adphones or in a party, because those tones will
                                                           cause a momentary lapse of consciousness (so cal-
If it is so, and the music is going to take over           led picnolepsy). If anybody were so kind as to rem-
the role of drugs, then?                                   ember "sleg" mentioned by Arkadi and Boris
                                                           Strugacki, that would understand what is going on
Then you don’t need to take the drugs. Anyway, this        here. As a matter of fact, all of that is going to dec-
is the future of the thing called music. As I have al-     line into looped, four-four, acoustic cocaine of the
ready mentioned, there is a software in existence,         daily consciousness in the virtual helmet of the
also called brainwave-synthesizer, that would gene-        home computer, along with the three dimensional
rate measuring sounds capable of measuring the le-         tonal systems, but who is capable of resisting the
vels of the brain’s alpha, beta and theta waves, then      opportunity.
At the same time, these strong effects will ne-            At which point could we seize the breaking
vertheless turn the glance inward.                         through from the structural-intellectual recep-
                                                           tion of music towards the visceral reception?
They will, all in all, help to exit the world, where the   What kinds of eras are known in music since
music has become the fitness practice of weekend           1968?
desertion of the soul and the body, stimulated from
the outside. It is obvious, that the stimulus thres-       After World War II, with America’s new economic
hold is becoming higher and higher, and the ques-          empire, there was the start of the process of music’s
tion is, what we can find in the most inside part of       becoming a quasi-colloquial language. The élite lan-
self. The situation being that one of the most phe-        guage that until then had only been existing in the
nomenal ability of the human beings, namely the            mind of participants of high culture would all of a
knowledge of playing music, that is able to point          sudden spread on the surface of the masses. In pa-
beyond the human existence, has been degenerated           rallel with the development of consumer society, it
by the music industry into sweet poison.                   becomes possible also for the common people to
                                                           obtain the pleasures of privileged intellectual refi-
Is it possible, that the drugs are similar to tech-        nement, that would certainly imply immediate fall
nology: we cannot use it for the purpose it is             of the level of cultural products and their turning
meant for?                                                 into a quasi-colloquial language. The same holds
                                                           true of other branches of arts as well, but let’s stick
The drugs, instead of healing or helping to widen          to the music. The classical music has lost its leading
the borderlands of the arts, and instead of helping        role, and in place of it there will evolve a public cul-
people to obtain material of knowledge, decompo-           ture, I mean an interim musical language by this.
sed to the level of genetic memory as well, will ap-       This musical culture has its roots in thousands of
pear as an everyday holocaust. There are some who          things, let me not to list it till nightfall, but it is still
would argue that drugs have become unnecessary             able to summarize the challenges of the new world
in the "Kondratiev" cycles of capitalism, and serve        and to find an outlet for the socio-emotional tensi-
for managing the human surplus pushed out to the           ons caused by itself. It is comparable in its primiti-
peripheries, just like sex and cable TV or the every-      veness to the cavemen’s frisking round the fire and
day Virtual Reality. I think it’s an exaggeration, be-     ecstasy that, strictly speaking, because of its being
cause it is less efficient then to incinerate the          elementary is closer to the human than any aliena-
sociological surplus, been selected out from the so-       ted Schönberg-like classical musical structures. This
cial homeostasis, in imploded volcanic craters.            is what I call the First Wave that has been the rock
                                                           and roll era extending, with a little allowance, from
                                                           Elvis to the Beatles (the later means the end of this
wave). On its top there is the American style of pro-     youth, craving for the freedom, would of course in-
digalism, the free and unclouded consumption stor-        hale it like ganja.
ming, everybody feels divinely well, and that will                 The new wave, sprouting from the from the
cause also the musical colloquial language. Sex, the      punk, had got about one and a half year. For me, it
shaking of the ass, dancing of harts on the parquet       is the Second Wave, a very productive and fantastic
floor, and so extremely simple musics, shrinking the      period of time, when all the same has happened in
brain into the size of a peanut, that are almost dri-     small, then during the First Wave. What a time of vi-
ving me up the wall. On the other hand, the ones          siting concerts it was, and the many bands, clubs,
who are parts of it, would pass through this period       groups and small pods that were formed at that
with positive feelings, since as compared to any ear-     time. For a small time, everything had become con-
lier, pre-war, stuffy and oppressive high cultures, it    ventional again, of course much more divided in
was the clean air itself, the very world of freedom.      terms of society than earlier, since there was a sta-
In this regard I also highly appreciate it, although in   tistically much smaller number of people who were
viewing the videos of that time again, it is slightly     possessing the new wave. In one and a half year, it
shocking that in its elements deemed the most po-         was certainly being castrated, but there would be
sitive in those days, like Hendrix’s guitar playing, we   never again as many free and independent record
can also discover the first signs of decay and dege-      companies, with own networks, in the world, than at
neration. He was the one, who put a fuzzy, very           that time.
progressive and increasingly abstract music into ac-               I was a great admirer of the positive one an
tion with his overeffected, scratchy sounding, sto-       a half year of intellectual new wave. I always used to
mach tearing guitar sounds, symbolizing the “injury       get off on their subtle irony, that they have imagined
of the world”. Thus, being well after 1968, the wes-      to change the world by means of parody. But the
tern youth movements, in my opinion the last spon-        punk, the quasi-colloquial language of this positive
taneous revolutions of the human race are falling         Second Wave, positioned on a deeper level, was per-
to dust on the millennial bastions of the states. And     sisting in the radical expression of refusing and
then, some Oriental incubuses would begin to creep        changing the society. Here, there will appear the ele-
forth from the backyard of history: Sri Chinmoy,          ments of self-destruction (safety-pins, early pier-
Maharaji, Bhaktivedanta, Maharishi, the Moon-sect         cings etc.), and hereby the all-social aggression is not
and so on, till our days and till the end of time.        aimed anymore at the system’s transformation, but
Those Oriental monsters would breathe the philo-          the participants, as a result of the authority’s mas-
sophical práná of the human misery of the horrible        terly manipulation, would turn it against themselves
Oriental societies on the Western World that is ha-       instead. They are responding to the superstructure,
ving a seized up mobility, becoming increasingly          that is apparently unchangeable, with destruction of
caste-like but still wanting to recover, and the poor     themselves, but don’t forget about the positive surp-
lus that is coming in terms of society from below, it      druggies were taken away in cold packs. And those
is an other general characteristic of the waves again.     parties were already called acid, meaning that the
They will always start from below and die on the           acid version of alienation would come into exis-
upper level of social strata. The (d)evolution is ext-     tence very early. Since then, the comprehensive con-
remely well illustrated, otherwise, that since the First   cept of acid has gradually fallen into pieces, today
Wave is spreading absolutely globally on the entire        there are some 25 kinds of styles existing at least,
surface of the youth, the Second Wave has already          but for me all of them would still belong to the
disintegrated into social classes, where the permea-       same Third Wave.
bility among the different classes, because of the in-             This is the music of broken minds, a conti-
tellectual difference between the punk and new             nuous "breaking" of drum & bass, an endless frag-
wave, is only ephemeral. We have to look for the           mentation, a kaleidoscope. To bring the truth in
roots of the acetonish new world in the 80ies. For         two-week imprints: there are no more appropriate
me, the turning point was Michael Jackson’s video,         music on Earth to do it, than the above-mentioned
called "Thriller", where there were tensomething           styles. And they can also perfectly assure the daily
zombies rising from the grave, corpse-punch sput-          experience of the broken mind. There will break
tering from their cheeks and they were dancing on          forth from those guys not only the all-social bruta-
a desolate factory-yard a disco dance like danse ma-       lity, but also the all-social talent. All of this is pe-
cabre. Well, the educated audience is going to buy it      netrating through them as if being a litmus paper,
in many millions of copies and reach an orgasm             without any particular philosophical and sociologi-
with it, and this level and pleasure factor of decay       cal knowledge, that’s why they can be considered ar-
will sweep away all the other tendencies. Actually,        tists. The different styles, beginning with drum &
the entire musical world of our days has sprouted          bass, would mean in terms of sociology the same
from the disco, or to be more precise, it has increa-      feedback, because those styles are at the same time
singly tightened on the successive sets of grooves         the musical equivalents of the different social strata.
and loops. If you take a look at the early glittering,     Also in this case we are speaking about styles and
overorchestrated instrumental disco musics, you can        their artists, having societal charge that are the same
realize the traces of all the dance musics of our days.    in terms of transcendence, longings to leave and
Concerning Europe, I was in clubs in the Nether-           exodus from the world, but different in sociological
lands as far back as 1981-82, where the DJ, using          terms. But the apparently strange sociological un-
stroboscopes, pushed the music with terrible loud-         derlying structure is revealable: while the 68ers ab
ness, although only for 20-30 minutes, and I also          ovo wanted to build a brand new world, believing
saw some strange German techno bands that were             the future was ours, Lunar landing and Yes, the sa-
operating with brutal old and primitive drum ma-           fety pinned punks of New Wave would respond
chines and ear-tearing hi-hats. In half an hour, some      with self-destruction, but still with a desperate social
awareness of mission coming from very deep, fi-         mind-influencing effectiveness of a performer’s ac-
nally, the intelligent children of the third wave       tivity with, for example, the efficiency of the Nestlé
would take the pills during the weekends, in their      product management’s logistical system. It is exag-
free time, and take the French leave through the by-    gerative what I am suggesting, but we still should
door.                                                   create something that is similar to the navigation
         Without being immersed here in the excep-      system of Ohio submarine, as compared to which
tional evolution of classical music, being less tous-   Verdi’s orchestral scores, being otherwise fascina-
led by winds of times and fashions, don’t forget        ting for me, would seem child’s play.
about the new finale of classical music either, be-
ginning officially with Edgar Varése, where compo-      In that case, is it the increase of influence that
sers of the Cologne electronic studio, then             would provide a solution after all? Since, accor-
composers from Stockholm, and later composers           ding to that, Verdi would fall behind in the race
grouped around IRCAM would exclaim in chorus:           for that very reason, because he would not be
let’s stray off the Yellow Brick Road.                  able to make a sufficient effect on the viscera.
         Based on the materials stored in the archi-    Isn’t it a contradiction here?
ves, I am inclined to think that this vanguard should
have declared: "noblesse oblige" and understood,        It is, if you are considering the orchestral score. But,
that there are more worlds and senses of world li-      when you hear that on a page of score composed
ving simultaneously on our Earth, and taken all of      with unbelievable colors the singer would scream in
that with their teeth to the other side of the river.   unison that "open the door", well, then I will be get-
It’s not appropriate to talk always about examples,     ting tired and begin to think, where that European
but it is useful to examine carefully the collegiate    culture of music has been declined, whilst a virginal
concert of Ummagumma from 1969, or some com-            piece with its three or four parts, or a piece of Pre-
positions of Magma, or even in our days the early       torius with its two parts, could mediate a global
David Tipper. It is worth comparing the efficiency      order. And here, we can return to the very begin-
of the period avant-garde contemporary music con-       ning of our conversation, Verdi had already been a
certs or of sometimes playful performances of ar-       great packaging artist, because in playing it on a
tistic-insubordinate groups that are symbolically       piano, it would turn out that this rich score-page was
suggesting the transformation of society with the       consisting of altogether three notes. On top of it
knowledges of a naval communication specialist at       all, he is not packaging that "Deus meus", but "open
Pentagon, or comparing the language of human sci-       the door" instead. Or, let’s see the above-mentioned
ence with the ethos of a developing engineer at a       Mahler, who is sometimes handled as a taboo. There
multinational industrial concern. Or, let’s compare,    is no musical substance in the scores. Instead of
however vulgar it might be what I am saying, the        that, there are seventy horns and forty timpani.
The white composer, being the masterpiece of cre-        awake in time and if we have taken seriously the
ation has already performed a complete somersault,       possibility of a new order, and then I flash some
but he would improbably accept that to be an artist      moments of this possible new virtual order. I am
is terribly insufficient today. What the history of      making efforts to master the languages of "king-
mankind and music is all about, that there is a Got-     dom come" and I deem to find the common deno-
hic cathedral, with its own rational transcendenta-      minator through making a comparison among
lism, and there is a leper next to it who is dying.      them. What I am working on is to create from two
                                                         existing things a non-existing one that is real, beca-
I know that you are unwilling to do, but I still         use I have understood and scented that this is pos-
would like to ask you to enter into more parti-          sible only now. It is real in the meaning that it is
culars about your music.                                 possibly real, and at the same it is obvious that it
                                                         will never exist. Unless somebody does work it out.
I am inclined to think that I am not existing, as a      I don’t want to have a boring Martian language, but
personality, in this respect. According to my stra-      a new, alternative reality instead. However, it seems
tegy, I relish executing the program, the conception     to me that I am going to remain a shipwrecked of
that I consider capable of functioning, like a robot.    a non existing and never ever possible world.
It is based on that I always see about and learn all             And allow me to introduce the theory of
the things that are interesting me. For example, I am    memes, that is, for me, an ingenious analogy gene-
interested in the Japanese tonal system, then it         rator. I have been working on my memes since
seems to me that the closed Indian musical élite has     1979, not only in a musical sense, but I also paint
admitted me as a traditional musician playing on         them in triptych or other forms, then I would like to
vina and sitar, then I have learned how to cast a Ja-    make moving sculptures of them, as if they were
vanese gong and what kind of intervals have been         computer animations but in real four dimensions.
used by Persians in the 13th century, and particu-       For the time being it keeps me well employed. It is
larly why. Then, I will compare them, certainly not      a tough proposition, because I need materials like
for the sake of high sciences or an artistic mission,    mercury that will harden differently depending on
but simply because this is the best for me. The tu-      the color of light, some brain-like opalesque, gela-
ning of Kechuan flutes or the ancient Greek aulos        tinous rubber, some iridescent fluid glass-wool, that
and kythara literature also come under this category.    can be spun like spider web, then will harden like
There are only few thing that would be irrelevant.       steel etc. I have been working already for some
So, for example, synthesizers or designing and buil-     thirty years on compiling an Indian musical encyc-
ding big organs are very much relevant in this res-      lopedia, then I keep refining the tonal system that is
pect. My surviving strategy is the following: I try to   based on shruti intervals but still has a polyphonic
imagine what would have happened, if we could            structure, this is also an old mania of mine, where
every polyphonic harmony is composed of acous-             mulate the entire physical reality, and even the
tically perfect overtone scales. Besides, I used to        human consciousness is going to move into the net-
write about the compositional technique of Hin-            works. The libraries are becoming empty, the facto-
dustani tálas, that is in fact the mathematical system     ries are disappearing, the things are becoming
of defeating the reality etc.                              alienatedly immaterial, everything is passing over to
        I concern myself very much with the future         the net, where everything is becoming realizable in
of technology, and within it the memetic synthesi-         time, and to cap it all, customized to the personal
zer that may, in case of realizing it, cause catast-       needs. So, this is how the paradise of customer
rophe on the Earth. A talented Hungarian                   world looks like. Pets, toothpaste, modularly as-
gentleman, who occurs on the payroll of Pentagon,          semblable building, aircrafts carrier, and a host of
have invented some year ago a molecular needle that        products with a never seen quality can be realized in
would scan the materials. There has been existing          that way in a moment.
the like with different laser and other kind of samp-      At the same time, the all-collective social reality
lers, but here we can speak about real molecular           might be manifested by means of the meme-gene-
sampling. There’s nothing left but to put into the         rator, that would mean a dangerous weapon of the
system a high performance storage capacity, then to        arts, as well. The scanners connected with the brain,
connect this with the still two dimensional but enor-      the consociator controlling of the material synthe-
mous pace of technological progress of photoco-            sizers could mean the physical materialization of the
piers, and we are arriving immediately at the material     memes, the appearing of which in the present
synthesizers. Earlier, it was the sampler that did the     human societies would only cause catastrophe and
same with the sounds. It is being realized here the        not the everydays of the intellect-ecological unity
real ethos of the consumer market economy: the             and environment of a new human species.
personalized replication. With the insertion of ge-
netics, the biosynthesizes will appear on the scene,       One would expect, that somebody, who, like
then by way of Internet everybody might be able to         you, has spent a quite a lot of time in India,
materialize it by means of the material synthesizer        would convert Vedic doctrines into a lifestyle
modem. Frankly spoken, if you got enough money             and then propagate them. But you seem to also
on your credit card, a Crivelli painting scanned with      overstep this. Neither will Eastern doctrines
the molecular needle can decorate even your flat. It       offer an alternative in Europe?
is obvious, that there will be no need for any Cri-
velli painting, because artificial genitals, chemicals     Europe’s mobile society, with its city-states, colo-
and other stimulants, games, softwares and artificial      nies, cathedrals, grinding mills and division of labor
beings are going to be synthesized mainly. As we can       stepped on a way of human coexistence-relation,
see, in a little while the softwares will be able to si-   that was completely different from India’s world
blended with village communities, where retreat            the individual Europe are becoming small and na-
from the community and as a hermit, sometimes              meless screws of an impersonal system, the or-
connected to a certain age (sadhu, yoga), was regar-       chestra, while in the personalityless and despotic
ded as the greatest intellectual virtue, and where the     world of India there begins to take shape a fantas-
intellectual cream of the society would drift to the       tic structure, that has lead to both the eight Vedic
periphery of collective human actions.                     philosophical schools and the classical Indian music
        In Europe, the property is nothing else, than      that is based on genealogy of the great master-mu-
sphere of decisions, and the sphere of decisions is        sicians.
nothing else, than the building up the personality -                At the same time, it has become obvious for
ecce homo - namely possession: that is personal            today, where the implantations of misunderstood
God, polyphony, knight in armour, heraldry, cat-           great Oriental doctrines would lead. The industrial
hedral, nuclear submarine.                                 revolution of T-model and the "human rights" ha-
        On the other hand, in India, i.e. in the pant-     ving a corresponding quality, namely the global
heistic and personal propertyless World of thou-           human right to consumer metabolism, will make
sand faceless Buddhas, Hindu gods and goddesses            possible for everybody, in a way that is unknown in
and bodhisattvas, there is only one kind of freedom        the Oriental despotic regimes, to flood the world
for the individuals, the fictional inner freedom. One      with the harvest of his/her mind with the selective
of the techniques to attain the freedom is yoga, i.e.      efficiency of the (non) free market. Thus, there will
when the man, namely the social being with a moe-          be more and more of the mimics of mimics, the so-
bius-mind performs a complete somersault. And so,          ulsavers-traders of the big doctrines, the knights and
for the Indian intelligentsia of that age, living in one   artists in the bogus holo-court of phenomenas, and
of the most infernal manner of human coexistence,          soon there will stay only the “guests phenomena”
yoga was a fantastic instrument to overcome the se-        of Solaris everywhere, if there is someone around,
quence of horrible rebirths (samsára), and due to          who can still follow what I am about.
the “proper” manners meaning victory over the                       The more precisely we follow the doctrines
subjection and the body to attain and deserve never        of a theory, the more we trample ourselves into an
to be obliged to rebirth on this world-Earth.              immanent swamp, and the less we are able to say yes
        The imaginary freedom and the musical              to something else. The adopters and followings of
system of the way leading inwards, the fantastically       great traditions will merely say no. They are repro-
sophisticated exode of human sufferings, the mil-          ducing the same morass that they would like to get
lennial method of defeating the reality, will become       rid of. What does the yogi meditate on? To redeem
here, in India, the most collective but at the same        the world? I would not think so, in my opinion he
time the more personal musical language. It is a pa-       takes every effort to sleep his soul out. According to
radox, since orchestral musicians and performers of        the musicologist, Yajnavalkiya brahmin (6th Cen-
tury AD, Hindustan): "If you are fully aware of the      sonality, which would make us human. But, there is
laws of tones and rhythm, then you will step on the      one thing, that I am absolutely sure of: the prob-
way leading home". Is there any need for a talk stra-    lems of neither the individual nor the society can
ighter than this?                                        be solved by means of a Tibetian Bon sentence or
         By way of illustration, let me mention in the   inhaling the Vedas. As none of the religious para-
vicinity the practice of Tensegrity cooked up in the     digms could ever find a solution to that.
USA, that is a series of exercises and philosophy
that will generate mental ray of energy. It teaches      So what is the solution then?
that the human’s individual consciousness is roa-
ming not in his/her brain, but out of it, somewhere      One thing we can be sure of, that no new Messiah
in the space-time of another dimension, and it           is coming, and there will be no more global revolu-
keeps communicating through a ray of energy with         tion. Beside the ecological collapse, the market eco-
the empty human body, that will saunter otherwise        nomy and all the practical and ideological problems
like a zombie. Besides that, it also teaches about the   of the parliamentary democracy, being carried by
?flyers?, who are living off the human race, and         that economy, but still not exploded, are at the gates.
who, like Alien parasites, will keep the level of all    The ozone holes are known since 1968, neverthe-
the evil in the human world, and of our motives and      less, the competents were only so kind as to admit
feelings, they are users of our consciousness and        it about the middle of the 80ies. There are 25.000
our institutions, they are poltergeist kind of parasi-   tin barrels of plutonium lying in Novaya Zemlya on
tic fluidiums that are responsible for “infiltration”    the bottom of the sea. Let’s express our sincere
of our ideas and the human ego, and who are prac-        thanks to the armies, being essential requisites for
tically the symbols of memetic eggs of the Alien,        the life on earth.
sticking to the human face and coiting the death                 Certainly, all of that is going to be gradually
into his/her mouth, or the philosophical incarna-        fished up for the sake of universal and uniformed
tion of green mould covering the crumbling-de-           consumer system and its peace, the "Pax Peristal-
composing skeleton of "Hunger", of dissolving            sis". And since the consumer hemisphere should be
carcasses of "Zoo", and of graphics made by Hans         maintained, those companies will strain the whole
Bellmer and H. R. Giger. Just think about the fact       utilizable ecosphere, just like stitching of the ozone
again, in what manner, namely how correctly, the         holes, that has already been begun. This is how the
human brain, as a meme-generator, is modeling the        fate of music is correlated with the big rinsing of
reality. Meanwhile, I cannot help understanding the      the oceans. Naturally, they will do it not in the in-
anguishing pain and the desire for the lost Paradise.    terest of the people or the music, or the clean water
Undoubtedly, there is a lack of collective musical       and air, but for the sake of sustenance of the
ecstasy that used to fill up that corner of our per-     system. On the other hand, when the consumer jar
becomes full on the Earth, and everybody is alre-          by the help of a dedicated medicine, some kind of
ady consumer everywhere, then a historical circle          a synthetic molecular grid. I think, there can be no
also will come to an end. With the mode of pro-            doubt that the human body is going to be comple-
duction becoming global, an expansion system, that         tely rebuilt. All the unnecessary ingredients are
is sustained by the growing, will come to an end of        being reduced, a part of the intestines and the pre-
its growth. Then it will be perceivable on the Earth,      sent form of the teeth are disappearing, the com-
in the people, in the science and in the arts a kind of    position of the bony system is undergoing a
infinite degradation, that the current chaos would         transformation, the control of the muscle-tone is
seem simply a paradise compared to that situation.         being renewed and the hormone household retur-
        Just let me instance only one element of this      ned. Nevertheless, it takes at least 50 years, but I am
world, that is, some time in the future, the genome        absolutely sure that human beings are going to quit
will be handled as a typewriter, and all the conse-        of their bodies step by step. The lifetime will be ex-
quences of a “stroke” will be known, and from that         tended to 150-160 years, longer than that is hardly
point the human culture and the known world will           to be expected, because it is not as easy to reset the
disintegrate. From the fossilized caste-system of the      mitochondrial timer, but in the course of time this
western society, it will break loose the seized up         problem might also be solved. Finally, there will be
consciousness of the individual, and it will be            nothing but old people all around the Earth. Just
his/her general condition, fashion and cultural de-        imagine Your brain at the age of 150! There is
mand, and the bank guarantee of his/her magnetic           enzyme treated, solariumed, smooth facial skin,
card that determines, what the possibilities offered       tight flesh outside and a ciliated, mouldy brain in-
by the genetics use for. The fact, that by the help of     side.
it also people being healed, or the age of life being               Finally, it is obvious, that God, as a messia-
extended, secondarily, means only a by-product.            nistic entity of an omnipotent, pre and above his-
The whole appearance of the youth will be formed           toric concept, is an integral part of human culture.
according to the latest fashion, as required, the "hor-    It is presumable, however, that the world cannot be
seshoeish" shoes of that time will be real horn on         explained and understood based on this conceptual
the feet, but only for two weeks, because then tor-        system, because it is totally inconsistent with the
menting demand may arise for silver bat ears, or gol-      existence of the good God.
den green lizard skin. Another 30 years, and we are                 Here, on the Earth, the ceremonies and be-
going to have organs that we wish, fantastic fashions      liefs, like symbol-creating ectoplasm of human
will be existing, true lilac nails, true crocodile eyes,   brain and imagination, are existing in place of a
rainbow coloured sperm and according to the code           world livable by intellect: the legacy of all of the
of the genetic map tattooed underarm, the cancer           dead generations weighs heavily on the mind of the
of your liver, for example, can be completely healed       living, like a daily-historical practice of individual
tucked underneath the social mass of the greatest
common human-social evil, the cocooned Me. The
functioning of this planetary system, that is working
according to complicated and fatal laws, will become
incomprehensible at the very moment, when we put
an omnipotent irrational element into this scheme
that is anyhow comprehensible, since our world has
been transformed through the autocracy of the al-
ready mentioned irrational elements into what it is
         The Ten Commandments were written for
people who used to kill, steal and lie. I believe in a
human being, who doesn’t need the Ten Com-
mandments, the Bible and the Koran, or the so cal-
led traditionalism, because he/she knows by
him/herself, that killing or lying is not appropriate.
There is no need for mimicry, because he/she
knows, that letting the world become a liveable place
require neither good God, no soldiers, Churches or
big companies. As I can see, there are more and
more who will recognize it. Or, they won't recog-
nize it, but are living in that way. And, if this recog-
nition can be spread, something's going to happen.

(June, 2003)

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