Hayling Island Community Board
Minutes of the meeting held on Monday 8 November 2010 at 7.00pm
at The Bridge Centre, Beach Road, Hayling Island
Present: Community Board Members:
Terry Worrall Chairman/Resident
Zachary Allgood Youth Representative
Nigel Chilcott Faith Groups
Paul Fisher Hayling Island Residents’ Association (HIRA)
Tony Higham Resident
Cllr Andy Lenaghan Havant Borough Council (HBC)
Dale Norman Market Town Initiative (MTI)/Hayling Island Youth Café
John Perry Vice Chairman/Resident
Helen Wood Community Boards’ Support Officer
Sgt Darren Ord Hampshire Constabulary
Sgt Steve Pratley Hampshire Constabulary
Robert Selby Cycle Hayling
Cllr Leah Turner Havant Borough Council (HBC)
Sue Underwood Cycle Hayling
3 Members of the Public
1. Introduction and Apologies for Absence
Terry Worrall welcomed everyone to the meeting.
Apologies had been received from:
Paul Dennison Bridge Centre/Pride of Place/Resident
Barry King Resident
Alison Clarke Resident
Nick Horten HBC
2. Action Notes from previous Meeting/Matters Arising
The minutes of the previous meeting were approved subject to the following
Item 4. The website providing crime data for all police forces and areas in the
country, priorities, monthly updates, beat surgeries etc. should read maps.police.uk
Item 5. Second paragraph should read ‘The Hayling Island County Councillor who
attended all HAT meetings was Cllr Frank Pearce’.
Proposed: John Perry Seconded: Zachary Allgood All agreed
Item 3. The litter bin at the southern end of Sinah Lane had been emptied.
Item 3. Brought Forward. It had been reported at the last meeting that litter bins NH
were full on the Billy route. Nick Horten would check who was responsible for
emptying these bins.
Item 3. Brought Forward. Tony Higham questioned why dog bins remained in NH
place if normal bins could be used for dog waste as these were unnecessary and
unsightly. Nick Horten to pass this to Gary Morton at HBC.
Item 5. HAT Funding. Paul Fisher confirmed that Cycle Hayling would contact Cllr
Pearce regarding possible funding.
Item 6. Jane Biscombe confirmed that she had been unable to obtain the climbing JB
wall free of charge from HCC and would contact County Cllr Frank Pearce
regarding possible funding from HATs.
Item 9. Terry Worrall confirmed that he had received information regarding the
creation of a Flood Plan for Hayling Island.
3. Environmental Ranger
Nick Horten had forwarded his apologies.
4. Public Open Session
Linda Woodage spoke of cold calling on her mobile phone. Sgt Steve Pratley
suggested that she contacted her service provider who could bar specific numbers.
Alternatively the SIM card or number could be changed.
6. Community Safety including Safer Neighbourhood Panel and Road Policing
Sgt Steve Pratley introduced Sgt Darren Ord from the Road Policing Unit who
provided information regarding the work of the unit on Hayling Island relating to anti
social use of the road and speeding.
Following every fatal or potentially fatal accident, the accident site was visited by
the Casualty Reduction Partnership and any actions which could prevent future
accidents were considered. These could include:
changing road surface
Following a recent motorcycle accident at Havant Road/Mill Rythe Lane which was
still being investigated, this area would be considered in the near future.
Speed and signage was being considered in West Lane, St Peters Road, and
Church Road. Information was provided on numbers of drivers who had been
caught speeding, the majority of whom were eligible for Driver Awareness Training.
This educational training, reaffirming the rules of the road had been very well
received and had provided substantial impact. Where complaints of speeding were
received or accidents had occurred a speed measuring device was used to obtain
speed data, time of day, amount of traffic and amount of traffic over speed limit. It
would then be decided whether speed enforcement would be warranted. The
perception of traffic speed was often not backed up by figures obtained and speed
limits were generally observed. Anyone observing specific speeding vehicles could
report information to the Police. A pilot study was currently being undertaken
which would involve the SNT in speed enforcement and there was a short
discussion regarding the SpeedWatch system which had not been taken forward in
Hayling Island was considered to be a relatively safe area, apart from the
motorcycle accident there had been a pedal cycle accident but no other serious
The following discussion included:
cyclists failing to wear safety clothing or use lights. It was confirmed that
Portsmouth had undertaken a great deal of work regarding cycling which
could also be potentially undertaken on Hayling Island
20 mph limit in Portsmouth which had won awards. Cycle Hayling were
proposing 20 mph limits
the placing and need for signs and repeater signs (dependent on lamp
concern over use of mobile phones
rules regarding noise. Legislation was available for illegal exhausts but this
was difficult to enforce
future measures for Bacon Lane. This was not known – Sgt Ord to find out DO
use of money from fines etc. It was confirmed that such money funded the
Sgt Darren Ord was thanked for attending the meeting.
Sgt Steve Pratley provided an update on the three priorities and confirmed that
information regarding the priorities was available on the website: maps.police.uk.
where information regarding beat surgeries, SNTs etc could also be found.
Speeding. Discussed above.
Parking. More patrols and enforcement had been undertaken.
Youth Engagement. Beat surgeries with presentations had been held at Hayling
College before Halloween and Bonfire Night.
Hi Rock – Hayling Island Rock had reached the finals of the Peoples Millions and
would feature on Meridian on Tuesday 23 November 2010 and it was hoped that
votes would be given to the project which would provide funding for the climbing
wall at Hayling College – the project with the highest number of votes would win
the funding. A community day would be held on 23 November and a film, made
prior to this would be shown. The whole of the community would be targeted,
posters displayed etc in order to gain as many votes as possible.
Crime overall was down from 111 reported incidents in October 2009 to 62
reported incidents in 2010. This was possibly due to youth engagement and the
breaking down of barriers, as there had been less anti-social behaviour. The
biggest concern was the fear of crime. It was confirmed that there had never been
a gang culture on the Island.
Following a general discussion regarding future priorities with possible suggestions
including targeting dog fouling and cycling on pavements it was agreed that the
parking priority would be removed and that youth engagement and speeding would
remain. Sgt Pratley confirmed that information regarding use of bins for dog waste
would be advertised. He also confirmed that an owner not clearing up after their
dog could receive an FPN for £50 but a dog owner who cleared up but did not
remove a bag could receive an FPN for littering (£75).
Sgt Steve Pratley was thanked for attending the meeting.
7. Community Boards Review Meeting – 8 November 2010
Terry Worrall spoke of the meeting attended that morning regarding the review of
Community Boards but felt that issues raised had all been discussed in the past.
The Community Boards were to consider putting together a Community Plan and
Cllr Cheshire had assured those at that meeting that the Community Boards would
receive the full support of Councillors, County Councillors and staff at HBC to put a
plan together. Terry Worrall confirmed that he would wish to discuss this further
with the Residents Association and MTI.
8. Update on Workshops
To be brought forward to the December meeting
A presentation was provided by Sue Underwood from Cycle Hayling which had
been formed in February 2010 and had grown from 3 founder members to 40
members and was supported by Cllr Andy Lenaghan and David Willetts MP. The
objective of the group was to encourage more people to cycle safely and to involve
all sections of the community including schools, local organisations, businesses,
residents, visitors etc.
Current projects included:
Safe cycling poster competition for schools
cycle map of Hayling (this could be seen on the Paris – Hayling website)
East Hayling cycle route to schools – using two existing footpaths and
footpath leading to My Lords Pond. It was hoped that the surface would be
improved. Landowners had given permissive access.
Cycle routes to schools would involve:
cycle route linking south east of Island to all five Island schools
HCC and HBC providing support and potential funding
all five schools actively supporting the project
relevant landowners had already granted permissive access for cyclists.
Longer term plans:
safe route to schools and round-the Island cycle route
training and awareness
Hayling Billy Line and Bridge – link between Langstone section and Hayling
20 mph speed limit on residential roads and outside schools.
Campaign for 20 mph speed limit:
prompted by serious accident to child cyclist in Bacon Lane
a wish to have open discussion with Police, residents and local authorities
use Portsmouth as a possible role model.
There was general agreement that there needed to be courteous driving and
courteous cycling. The possibility of cycle maintenance training at Hayling College
was also raised.
9. Open Forum for Community Board Members
Dale Norman confirmed that the address of a planning application listed in the
Hayling Islander should have read 6 Wight View, Bembridge Drive, not 6
It was also suggested that if a planning application was submitted for Bacon
Lane/Stamford Avenue, consideration should be given to cutting down vegetation
on the corner of the land.
There was a short discussion regarding the decline in the number of Community
Board members and the need to recruit new members. It was agreed that it had
proved difficult to obtain members from the business community and was
suggested that all current members consider introducing new people to the
Community Board at a meeting in the New Year. An item would be added to the HW
agenda for the next meeting.
LSP Board Meeting. John Perry had attended the final meeting of the LSP Board
on 14 October 2010. Topics included:
An update on the key priorities and progress on the Sustainable Community
a talk by Chief Inspector Schofield
the future of Community Boards with quarterly meetings to include all
Community Board members and the possibility of an annual Community
an update on PACT (Police and Communities Together)
Terry Worrall believed that, following the disbanding of the LSP Board HATs would
be very positive.
10. Date, Time and Venue of next Meeting
Monday 13 December 2010 at The Bridge Centre, Beach Road, Hayling Island.