Government Skills Australia
DRAFT MEETING NOTES
Meeting Certificate IV Hydrography Review Project Steering Committee
Date/Time Monday 18 & Tuesday 19 February 2008
Venue Centre for Learning Innovation, Strathfield
Accommodation Oaks Harmony Apartments
Author/Proponent Chair : Kim Peterson
Attending Michael Briggs, Mic Clayton, Paul Langshaw, Prue Madsen, Greg May, Graham
Parsons, Kim Peterson, Ian White.
Apologies: Bill Steen, Alex Springall.
1. Welcome and Introductions
Member Position Organisation
Michael Briggs National Operations Manager Thiess Services Pty Ltd
Mic Clayton Coordinating Hydrographer Snowy Hydro
Paul Langshaw National Hydrographic Training & Education Coordinator AHA & Bureau of Meteorology
Prue Madsen Water Industry Liaison Officer Government Skills Australia
Greg May Principal WRO (Hydrography) WA Department of Water
Graham Parsons State Hydrometric Manager NSW Department of Water & Energy
Kim Peterson Program Manager, Chemical & Environmental Industries TAFE NSW
Ian White Principal Policy Officer – Water Monitoring QLD Dept Natural Resources and Water
2. Confirmation/revision of agenda
3. Background to Hydrography training
Kim: noted that the training, provided nationally by OTEN, used the NSW accredited course 3573
Certificate IV in Hydrography. This course had been developed following a request from the water
industry with much input from AHA members in both curriculum and resource development. Its
accreditation ran out on 31.12.07 and this coincided with the endorsement of NWP07.
The expectation was that 3573 would be subsumed into the Certificate IV in NWP07. It was thought that
the 7 units of competency developed during the review of NWP01 (and its evolution into NWP07) would
meet the needs of industry as members of the industry across the country had been involved in unit
writing for hydrometric measurement. As NWP07 neared endorsement it became clear that it did not
meet hydrography industry requirements and the AHA requested that 3573 have its accreditation period
extended for at least one year.
The TAFE NSW Accreditation Council granted a one year extension. Kim explained that there would
probably not be another extension for 3573. There is a requirement to review the course at least every 5
years. Also, there is now a further requirement is that all courses that are revised or developed (Training
Package or accredited) must be developed in units of competency, and not modules. This does not
prevent the modules from being used (and revised/updated) as learning and assessment resources for
delivery. One possible (maybe „ideal‟ to some) outcome is the development of Hydrography units that
cover all that is required and map perfectly to the existing modules (for 3573). Practically, the current
OTEN resources will still provide a useful learning pathway for whatever new course/qualification that is
developed, even without modification.
The options available are to either redevelop the course with TAFE NSW (or some other provider) as a
State accredited course (bearing in mind that it would have to be in units of competency) or to work with
GSA to incorporate the required qualifications into NWP07.
Paul then outlined the current position of the Bureau of Meteorology (BOM), which, under the
requirements of the new Water Act 2007, had a greatly expanded role in relation to collection and
analysis of water cycle data. This will require more staff and more training. The BOM is particularly
interested in fostering accelerated training and a variety of training pathways. The BOM wants AHA to
take a lead role in specifying, promoting and sourcing appropriate training. The current OTEN training, or
its equivalent, particularly if it could be delivered in a shorter time, is supported by AHA and so would be
looked upon favourably by the BOM. Kim explained that the current average time for the course by
distance education (DE) was about 4 years, but that this was dictated by the learner (partly in
conjunction with the learner‟s workplace) and that there is potential for significantly reducing this time
(typical Certificate IVs take 1 year of full time or 2 years of part time study).
4. Overview of NWP07 Water Training Package
Prue gave an outline of the Package and its review. She explained the limitations of the review process
and that a system of continuous improvement was now in place. The process was there to ensure that
industry got the training that they needed, not what a provider wanted to offer them. The new package
was far more flexible than earlier versions and there is wider industry coverage, which has been
reflected in the name change from “Water Industry Training Package” to “Water Training Package”.
GSA certainly see‟s Hydrography as coming under the umbrella of the Water Training Package and that
process had already started with the inclusion of new hydrometric units in the current version of NWP07.
Prue noted, that as Kim had already commented, that GSA thought that NWP07 had met the needs of
the hydrography sector, but that now it was very clear that this was not the case and that this committee
has the job of ensuring that NWP07version2 does truly meet industry needs. GSA has bee heartened to
see the enthusiasm and commitment from the hydrography sector from around Australia and thanks you
all for making your time and expertise available for this project.
5. Application of NWP07 to Hydrography
a. Current situation: covered in discussion above (and elsewhere). Some additional
1. NWP07 has the one structure for Certificate IV: 2 core units on OHS and
environment, plus 7 electives (which could include up to 2 NWP units from level 3,
up to 3 units from level 5 in NWP07 and up to 3 units from other Training Packages
at level 3 or 4).
2. There was some discussion about the suitability of the core for hydrography, but it
was agreed that core would be satisfactory, once it was explained that this was a
common structure in NWP07 and its predecessor, and that a unit is not necessarily
delivered as a stand-alone “module” but may be integrated into a total delivery
strategy. OHS, for example, can be integrated with most tasks/functions/operations
in the water industry.
b. Identification of satisfactory units: All units require a re-examination.
c. Identification of units which require revision:
NWP340A – revision
NWP341A to be combined with NWP342A
NWP437A – revision
NWP438A – rename; revise; remove rating curves
d. Identify gaps:
1. Rating curves – new unit: NWP439A Develop and maintain rating curves
2. Hydraulics and channel flow – new unit: NWP4xxA Apply principles of hydraulics to
pipe and channel flow (capture outcomes/competencies from 2991B, 2991AU &
3. Water quality – new unit: Monitor water quality in urban and rural catchments
4. Atmospheric physics and hydrology – new unit: Collect and evaluate hydro-
meteorological data (capture outcomes/competencies from 8004R, 8004S, 8004X &
5. Water Industry Instrumentation – new unit to capture outcomes/competencies from
8004F & 8004G)
e. Qualifications and packaging rules: Sample training plans will need to be trialled to
validate training programs. Alternatives such as separate rules for the hydrography
qualification may need to be investigated (Another suggestion, subsequent to this meeting,
is the possibility of tying licensing conditions to additional units over and above that required
to receive the Certificate IV in NWP07).
6. Centre for Learning Innovation – resource development for the water industry: Chris Froissard
and Paul Wray outlined a concept for development of an eLearning product (“Toolbox”) for the
Certificate I in Water Sustainability. One of two (?) members of the committee indicated a willingness
to serve on a reference panel for its development.
7. Determine ability of revised NWP07 to meet the needs of hydrography industry: After
considerable discussion it was agreed that at this stage the best way forward was to work with GSA
to find a Training Package home for hydrography training. That being said, there was a wide-ranging
discussion of issues:
The current course met industry needs
The current resources met industry needs
Industry had contributed (both in funding and in-kind) to the development of the learning
resources and had considerable “ownership” of them. The expectation was that these resources
should not be “lost”.
OTEN delivery met industry needs, and while OTEN viewed 50-60 students per years as almost
marginal, AHA thought that having 50-60 staff in training, when there are not many more than
about 300 hydrographers nationally, was an excellent result. It was also noted that the Water Act
would result in an increase in training.
It was recognised that, particularly in light of the above, that it would be advisable to have just
one RTO (Registered Training Organisation) delivering the qualification nationally. It was felt by
all stakeholders that increasing the number of RTO‟s would result in them all becoming non-
viable and that the training provision would collapse. (Kim was to organise a meeting between
AHA(/BOM) and OTEN/WSI to discuss ongoing delivery of hydrography training).
The proposal of a defined skills set to address training needs for those entering the hydrography
sector with a relevant degree was well accepted.
The addition of one or two suitable units to the Vocational Graduate Certificate would also
provide for ongoing professional development within the industry. This position was supported,
but any action deferred until after revising the Certificate IV training.
8. Learning and Assessment resources - mapping; revision; development – deferred.
9. Workshop sessions: developing new and revised units.
The new and revised units are listed below. Draft units are to be ciculated to the steering committee
for comment. It is expected that they will then be placed on the GSA website for wider input and
NWP40107 Certificate IV in Water Operations (“Hydrography”)
The Certificate IV in Water Industry Operations supports candidates seeking competency and
requiring increasingly specialised technical skills or those who require a broad range of skills.
To achieve this qualification the candidate must demonstrate competency in nine units, comprising
two core and seven elective units of competency.
All core units must be completed.
LGACOM405B Implement and monitor the organisation’s OHS policies,
procedures and programs within the work group
NWP401B Coordinate and monitor the application of environmental plans
Seven elective units must be completed.
The elective units must comprise at least three and up to seven elective units of competency
drawn from the elective pool below.
The balance of units required to complete the qualification may be selected according to
the following rules.
A maximum of two water industry specific elective units (coded NWP) may be drawn from the
Certificate III level in this Training Package.
A maximum of three units may be drawn from this Training Package at Diploma level.
• A maximum of three relevant units may be drawn from another endorsed Training Package at
Certificate IV or Diploma levels.
NWP410B Coordinate and monitor asset construction and maintenance
NWP415B Coordinate and monitor surface water systems
NWP416B Coordinate and monitor water storage catchment activities
NWP417B Coordinate and monitor groundwater system usage
NWP418B Coordinate and monitor bulkwater system operations
NWP419B Coordinate and monitor river system usage
NWP425B Coordinate and monitor the operation of irrigation delivery
NWP426B Coordinate and monitor the operation of potable water systems
NWP427B Coordinate and monitor the operation of drainage systems
NWP428B Coordinate and monitor the operation of wastewater collection
NWP429B Coordinate, implement and report trade waste monitoring
NWP430A Evaluate, implement and monitor standard low-risk trade waste
NWP431A Investigate, rectify and report on trade waste incidents
NWP435B Coordinate and monitor the optimisation of water treatment
NWP436B Coordinate and monitor the optimisation of wastewater treatment
NWP437A Analyse data and produce hydrometric reports
NWP4xxA Apply principles of hydraulics to pipe and channel flow
NWP439A Develop and maintain rating curves
NWP4xxA Collect, measure and process hydrometric discharge gauging
NWP4xxA Monitor water quality in urban and rural catchments
NWP4xxA Collect and evaluate hydro-meteorological data
NWP4xxA (land surveying and mapping)
NWP440A Supervise conduit inspection and reporting
LGAWORK404A Manage a civil works project
PSPPROC410A Administer contracts
BSBCMN402A Develop work priorities
BSBFLM405B Implement operational plan
Certificate III units
NWP340A Measure and process hydrometric stream discharge data using
NWP341B+NWP342B Hydrometric Instrumentation
NWP520A Contribute to hydrometric planning and water resource
Note that currently only elective 7 units can count towards the qualification. It
was noted at the CLI meeting that there are differences between States,
departments, organisations, etc and not all “trainees” would need to do all
units. The units in green above have been specifically designed for
hydrography. At present they still have to meet the rules above for the
qualification.(note also that units other than those above from Cert III & Dip
could also be used. See NWP07 Packaging rules for full list) The unit codes in
bold are those identified as a skills set for those with a relevant degree who
require training to become a field hydrographer. (Is this correct?)
A question that still has to be answered is: is 7 electives sufficient or not? If
not some possible solutions are:
1. use proposed licensing requirements to mandate more units that the
NWP07 Packaging Rules require
2. Define a separate Certificate IV for Hydrography within NWP07v2
3. Return to an accredited course