USS REEVES (DLG-24/CG-24) ASSOCIATION Fall 2010 Volume 3, Issue 3 The Ironman—A Double Ender’s Newsletter Membership Scorebox Chicago 2010 Reunion Deemed A Success Current 47 Diary of a Reunion this new Navy is a pretty squared Past Due 67 By Gerry Hines (64-68) away outfit. Snail Mail Ad- 98 Thirteen of us caught the train dresses Only The fourth edition of the reunions of the USS Reeves began on 7 Octo- Saturday morning and headed into Email Address 466 ber in Chicago, Illinois. We began to Chicago to see the sights. None of gather at the Holiday Inn, checking in, which did I recognize. The Sear/Willis Dues Notice! shaking hands with old and new Tower was our first stop and luckily Please be sure to check friends. Although partly because of the we were old sailors that were used to your mailing label or standing in lines. It snaked back and email notation. economy the turnout was lower than last year, we had quite a cross section forth for an hour getting to the eleva- If it doesn’t say Current tors but the views from the top were (plus year) above your of shipmates. Ranging from 4 of us name at the top of the la- ―old salts‖, plank owners from the spectacular. A country music festival bel, you should renew 1964 commissioning all the way to was going on at the park off Michigan your annual dues. To Dan Bernier (88-92) an EM who was Ave. along with some wild and huge reach the greatest num- on board until 1992. Michael and Lor- metal sculptures. We walked over 4 ½ ber of shipmates, we will miles according to the pedometer publish the complete As- ri Robertson (72-75) had done their sociation newsletter to usual great job of organizing and sup- worn by a newly slimmed down re- any valid email address. plying all the bells and whistles. tired Chief ―Red‖ Redfield (64-67). Your dues payments Two car loads of us traveled to make this possible. Friday morning at 6am six of us headed for NTC Great Lakes to wit- Naperville Sunday morning to visit a Inside this issue: ness the Recruit Training Command vineyard for a wine tasting. A lot more graduation. It took us 40 minutes on tasting than buying occurred, however President’s Message 2 rumor has it that Kurt ―Stu‖ Stuvengen the toll way and an hour and ten Shipmates’ eMail 3 minutes of creeping bumper to bumper (80-86) now owns quite a nice supply. You Can’t Go Back 4 to get to the gate. It was well worth the Back to the hotel where President Tom Next Reunion 5 wait. Over 900 recruits were graduat- Bailey (84-87) called the annual busi- ing and the ceremony was very im- ness meeting of the USS Reeves Asso- Financials/Dues 6 pressive. The new uniforms blue camo ciation to order. Lots of discussion Saving Money 6 about the next reunion, continuing ef- BDUs and the khaki shirt/black pants RAO Bulletins 7 dress uniforms look pretty sharp. The forts and ideas on how to grow the as- Veterans Benefits 7 graduation uniform was the old sociation. A good meeting with every- Peacoats 8 standby dress blues though. Nine hun- body contributing. Reunion Photos 9 dred voices singing Anchors Away The evening banquet was a great Shipmate Demographics 10 still chokes me up. Seeing these new success. The meal was excellent. Mi- graduates and the crew last year of the chael Robertson gave an update on the Veterans Appreciation 10 USS Preble made all of us believe that association status and recognized re- Have You Heard? 11 (Continued at Chicago on page 6) Mesothelioma Alert 11 Page 2 T h e I r o n m a n — A D o u b l e E n d e r ’ s N e w s l e t t e r The President’s Page Chicago ‘10 still missing the magical ingredient made by our membership chairman Greetings to the that multiplies our numbers. We Paul Van Tassell during the last year Reeves Associa- spoke of new ways to keep working to consolidate contact lists we have tion Family; that issue, and hope to improve our collected in the past. Paul ran down a ability to reach out to more shipmates lot of bad addresses and discontinued The Reeves Asso- for future reunions. phone numbers to clean up the list. ciation 2010 Reun- We also discussed the advertising Our attempt to build the organization ion is now a his- efforts that our advertising chairman by scheduling annual reunions in dif- torical note in the deck log. We as- Charles Elkins used to spread the ferent parts of the country has now sembled in Illinois just a few weeks word for the 2010 reunion. The most gone through its first evolution of ago to renew our ties to the warship effective, and cheapest ads turned out east, west, and center. We went to Reeves, and spend some quality time to be the veterans magazines (VFW, Washington DC. in 2008, San Diego with the reunion family produced in AL, Together We Served). Mike re- in 2009, and Chicago in 2010. We‘ve her wake. Attendance at this year‘s ported on the status of the ‗Ironman‘ had some great reunions, but unfortu- reunion was somewhat lower than newsletter and the web-site. One issue nately there was not a considerable expected, but the event was, for all that has comes up repeatedly is the change in the numbers by location. intents and purposes, a resounding need for original articles for the We believe we are on the right track, success. The attendees were mostly ‗Ironman‘ newsletter. We all have and have agreed that we should con- made up of the core group that has great Reeves stories that we can share tinue with our effort to take the reun- been established over the reunions to with our members. These stories ions to our members. date, with a few new first-time at- don‘t have to be long-winded or well tendees. I‘m happy to report that this The timing, however, has to change. written. We can clean-up what you diverse group interacts well, and It is a matter of the dollars needed to send to make them presentable for seems to enjoy each others company. get a reunion away from the pier. It print. Take the time to feed the pro- I‘ve been in several successful organi- costs to research a new area, identify cess your favorite story, and we‘ll edit zations that could not make the claim potential sites, prepare the necessary the material. that their members play well together. requests for bids, review the received Other new business to come out of the I think I‘m safe in saying that the at- bids, and travel to the site(s) to make annual meeting includes new associa- tendees (both shipmates and their sure we select the best deal. We are tion board members. We tried to call wives) found the atmosphere to be very fortunate in that Mike and Lorri them elections, but the potential pool friendly and comfortable. We trav- Robertson have taken on this task for of candidates was rather small. I was elled as a group to a few functions, the last three years. The results of requested to remain as the Associa- told sea stories, and enjoyed a few their volunteer efforts have enabled us tion President for another term, and cocktails together … and all with to enjoy some nice venues for our agreed after being given a substantial minimal drama. That‘s a fair boast for reunions, and each at reasonable cost. pay increase (yeah). Gerry Hines was a group of sailors, and an even bigger Their events are well researched, nominated and approved as our new deal when you blend in their signifi- planned, and executed. The problem Vice-President. Ron ‗Red‘ Redfield cant others. is that our low numbers do not give us agreed to continue as our board mem- the capital to fund travel and expenses The reunion activities were a lot of ber at large. Eric Wenzel will contin- for the process. Simply put, it is cost- fun, but we eventually got around to ue as our Recording Secretary. Mike ing Mike more of his own money brass tacks at the annual business Robertson will continue as our Treas- than can be reasonably expected. The meeting. There were some discus- urer (while wearing a variety of other bottom line is that the schedule for sions over low attendance, and we hats). Charles Elkins will continue as future reunions will skip a year, with surmised that low attendance numbers our Advertising Chairman. Paul Van the next one in 2012 on the east coast. are a reality for a relatively new or- Tassel will continue as our Member- ganization. Add in the current eco- The change to our planning routine ship Chairman. Kurt Stuvengen has nomic conditions, and the numbers resulted in some serious debate over agreed to take on the Ships Store. are not all that surprising. We‘d like how we can get the attention of more We discussed a variety of Ships Store to think that we‘re doing all we can to Reeves shipmates to join the associa- items which may be of interest to our get the attention of potential associa- tion, and to get them to sign-up for a (Continued at Message on page 4) tion members, but apparently we‘re reunion. We discussed the efforts V o l u m e 3 , I s s u e 3 Page 3 Mail/eMail/Decklog From Our Shipmates — Served in First Division from 1987- played as one. It was definitely better 2010 and onward. Contact me if you 1992. Best ship in the fleet. IRONMEN than the two CVA's I was unlucky like. Remember flying Mickey? FOREVER!!! Great memories,except enough to serve on. maybe for when that bomb went Wes Garrett (82-85) through the foc‘sle. The boxing smok- David Garms (65-68) email@example.com ers didn‘t go real well for me either! firstname.lastname@example.org LOL. REMEMBER PURPLE STAL- LION, PHILLIPINES! Look‘n forward It was a pleasure serving on the U.S.S. My apologies if this ends up being a to hearing from some of ya, Drop me a Reeves, with a great extended family 2nd posting. It looks like my line via email. Hoping to see some of from 1989-1992. Some of the greatest first attempt may have failed. ya at the reunion in Chicago in Octo- memories I had in my life! I have an extra copy of the 1975 Cruise ber. If any of ya know how to get in Book. If anyone is interested, touch with James Crouch, let me know. Juan Carrillo (89-92) please contact me via my personal Hoping to get in touch with him. email@example.com email address and maybe we can work something out. Thanks. Patrick Tucker (87-92) I served on Reeves a total of 8 years- firstname.lastname@example.org 82-85 and 88-92? As a Fire Control- Cheers, man. I retired from the navy in 2003 Gary Steinhour (74-76) after 28 years and have settled in NE email@example.com Served on board the Reeves DLG24 Florida. Great to see so many familiar from 71 to 73 as SH/SN. Separated as names. I have many fond memories of soon as she returned to Pearl from 2nd this fine ship and her crew. Your efforts at organizing the reunion WESPAC in 73. I am retired now after are appreciated. Unfortunately, Cali- 32 years in Law Enforcement with the Karl Maerz (82-85, 88-93) fornia's politicians are playing games Illinois State Police. Now living in firstname.lastname@example.org with the wife's pay and it doesn't look deep south Texas, about 45 minutes like we have the reserves to spend on from Padre Island, and loving it. Any- the trip to the reunion. The governor one remember me shoot me a email. Reported aboard Reeves 01 Feb 86 to wants to cut most of the state workers Dec 1990. I had the best Signal Gang to federal minimum wage until the leg- Anthony (Tony) Ortega (71-73) ever! "Doc", Kea, Jones, Wolf, Graves islature passes a budget. email@example.com and Miller. Outstanding CMC - FCCM McClelland and CO "Wild Bill" Cen- Congrats on your retirement home. I Served from 65-68 on REEVES and ter. Living in Singapore/Philippines google earthed the address to see where still remember that tour as the best of now. in Washington you are. Mead looks my career. The entire crew worked and like a nice community and you have a Wayne ―Pussman‖ Bailey (86-90) lot of national forest in the area. Do Medicare Updates firstname.lastname@example.org you hunt or camp?? (Not anymore. Ed.) For those of us aged 65 or older, I am trying to find an old bud. Louis the new 2011 Medicare Handbook Spane. We worked the Radio Shack We purchased a country property back has just been published by the Cen- during the Viet Nam days along with in '98 for our retirement place. It is ters for Medicare and Medicaid (in no order) Fezer, Miller, Slade, Ma- great in the country but, the chores are Services. Some copays and coin- hand, Pantoha, Castel, Merchant and never ending. I'm fully retired now but, others I can't remember. It's been a long the wife is still working and I hear surance criteria have changed. time and a lot of booze. The Reeves, about that once in awhile. (Address If you have access to the internet, it she was a hard luck boat, but she got available on request. Ed.) can be downloaded at: less the she deserved. We were definitely planning to attend http://www.medicare.gov/Publicati the reunion this year but, the crazy CA Andrew ―Andy‖ Casella (66-68) politics seems to be running our life at ons/Pubs/pdf/10050.pdf email@example.com this time. Keep up the good work. Otherwise, you can receive a hard copy of the new edition by calling Just wanted to let anyone that served in Gary Nance (63-68, 73-76) 800-633-4227 1st div. during 82 to 85 or anyone on firstname.lastname@example.org the ship at that time. A good year in Page 4 T h e I r o n m a n — A D o u b l e E n d e r ’ s N e w s l e t t e r President’s Message (Continued from page 2) The last point I would like to bring up look to his friends and acquaintances is a reminder that the November for insight to his character‖. members. We are avoiding size relat- Elections are upon us. I don‘t have to Here‘s wishing you Fair Winds and ed articles such as shirts or similar tell you just how important this elec- Following Seas apparel to avoid inventory costs to tion is for us as citizens and as veter- stock sizes. Instead, we are looking towards items which are purely ans. I won‘t insult you by suggesting a particular party or candidate, but Tom Reeves, like original style DLG and instead leave you with my hope that CG ball caps, ships photos, stickers, you get out and vote. As far as work- Tom Bailey BT2 (84-87) and the possibility of a specially ing through all the pre-election hype minted USS Reeves Challenge Coin. to figure out how to vote; keep one TomBailey@USSReeves.net Stu will have more information on thing in mind: ―If you can‘t deter- the Ships Store as ideas emerge. mine the value of a man by his words, Remember the Movie Czar? Have you visited the Navy Me- morial in Washington, DC, lately? I was a member of the pre- time. The other ships were very curi- You can get there online very easily. commissioning crew on the USS ous about how we were able to get One of the many features includes Reeves. We commissioned the ship these first run movies and they could- NavyTV. There is an excellent con- May 15, 1964 in Bremerton, Wash- n‘t. Usually the oilers and supply versation with Ernest Borgnine when ington. We then went to Long Beach, ships got the best movies first. he discusses his time onboard USS California and did our primary sea Lamberson (DD-119/DMS-2) during trials. Upon completion of these sea The Captains of the other ships in the World War II. To find the video, go trials, we were sent to the coast of Fleet were asking around how we to Viet Nam. As IC man, part of my were able to procure these movies. To www.navytv.org duties was to make movie runs and the best of my knowledge they never then click on NavyTV from the home show these movies on the mess deck. found out. But, after these had been page and then search for Borgnine. I maintained the movie projectors, viewed by our crewmembers, we making sure they were always in would trade movies via high line be- While you are there, check out proper working order. tween ships. They were extremely the many different conversations happy to have these high demanded from many Navy veterans that have Prior to leaving Hawaii, we made movies. Each time I returned to the been saved for posterity. arrangements with the Movie Ex- ship with our movie supply, I became And, don‘t forget about joining. change so that they would hold the very popular because everyone would first run movies for us. The agree- want to see the movie books Visit: TogetherWeServed.com ment was that we would provide them (synopses of the movie). This includ- You‘ll find a lot of us there, with all with fresh pastries like sweet rolls ed the Captain! They would call me the details about our service time. and donuts. The ship‘s cook made to the Officer‘s Mess or Ward Room these pastries and he was a master at so the Captain and some of the offic- pastry making. When we first board- ers could review the movies books This newsletter is published by: ed the ship in Hawaii, we had 40 of prior to them being shown. They The USS Reeves Association the best movies in the fleet. The mov- would select the movies they wanted 15709 N Sycamore St ies exchanges were located at the Na- to see first. We would also have a Mead, WA 99021 val Bases in the various ports and we private showing for the cooks and Newsletter Editor - made some type of agreement with they always had ice cream and cook- Michael Robertson some of the other movie exchange ies. This was their reward for making Phone: 509-315-8107 operators. As a result we did get the this happen. TEAM WORK! Fax: 703-740-9161 first run movies, like, Goldfinger, Dr. E-mail: email@example.com Strangelove and A Shot in the Dark. Charles L. Elkins (64-66) All comments, suggestions, submissions These were the top movies at that and criticism are welcome. My email is always open... V o l u m e 3 , I s s u e 3 Page 5 Welcome to the East Coast—Our Next Reunion At the Chicago Reunion, it was plantations, Middleton Place and Jacksonville and Cecil Field. decided that the association would Drayton Hall, just to mention a few of Close by, there‘s the oldest change reunions to a bi-annual settlement in North America, St. schedule. The size of the association Augustine. And, of course, there are and expense of travel was a deciding the beaches — Atlantic Beach, factor. Sticking to the goal of Neptune Beach, Jacksonville Beach bringing a reunion to a region close to and a lot of white sand on the warm you, the East/West/Central plan was east Atlantic in between. reaffirmed. Thus, the next reunion in 2012 will be held on the East Coast. Golf, there‘s lots and lots of golf. The exact where wasn‘t determined Not being a practitioner of cow yet, although both Charleston, SC, pasture pool, it‘s not my thing and we and Jacksonville, FL, are the strongest haven‘t seen any golf clubs at any candidates (althoughTony Borba likes reunion. But they are there: seven Orlando, FL). courses within a couple of miles of Charleston Charleston had a large Naval Base Middleton Place on the Ashley before BRAC that is now closed. River, Charleston However, Charleston still has a lot to offer. It has been rated as the second very many. most popular destination spot in the U.S., edged out by San Francisco by There are many hotels very near the airport, so shuttle service will be available. If there is a large enough registration for tours, there will be Can you imagine this?!? Driving a Seg- tours arranged for Friday, Saturday way in the Fort George woods... and Sunday. There are some dinner cruises downtown Jacksonville. available — can be set up if there‘s Let‘s not forget the Segway Rides enough interest. at Fort George Island along the And, of course, we are looking for Amelia Island route. a hotel rate around $80 per day. The hotel rate may be slightly Jacksonville higher than Charleston, but still fully Jacksonville is very close to affordable. Mayport Naval Station, a place chock- Choosing and Getting There a-block with real, live surface ships, You can have a say in choosing USS Yorktown at Charleston‘s Patriots sailors and a Navy Exchange (think Point Naval and Maritime Museum our next reunion site. Contact me at San Diego). There‘s also NAS firstname.lastname@example.org or less than one percentage point. write me, call me by phone, or even send a Pony Express gram. (See the For the Navy side, there is the application form on the last page of Patriots Point Naval and Maritime this newsletter.) We have a year to Museum. Tour the USS Yorktown, finalize the selection, and we have a USS Clamagore, Medal of Honor team (Charles & Nancy Elkins) Museum, Cold War Submarine standing by to run our site checks Memorial and the only Vietnam after we send out our request for Support Base Camp in the U.S. Its proposals to the various Convention history you can touch. and Visitors Bureaus. USS Carney (DDG-64) homeported at History buffs have access to Fort Regardless, think 2012 and a great Mayport Naval Station. Sumter, Magnolia and Boone Hall time down South. Page 6 T h e I r o n m a n — A D o u b l e E n d e r ’ s N e w s l e t t e r Chicago (continued) Financials Dues union participants by decades of the USS Reeves Association The Association‘s fiscal year runs Reeves lifespan. Kurt Stuvengen 2010 Income Statement November through October. The reun- gave a very moving reading as part ion marks the end of the current fiscal Income year. of a POW/MIA ceremony. Reunions $2,764 Association dues coincide with the As has been the case in previous fiscal year—most reunion attendees reunions we then adjourned to the Program $1,358 pay the next year‘s dues at the business Hospitality Room where the sea meeting on the fourth day of the reun- Total Income $4,122 stories get going hot and heavy. ion. Olongapo seemed to be a popular Expense It was decided by the members that topic this year and the disastrous Advertising $315 the dues rate of $20 per year will con- events that occurred there through tinue unchanged. No lifetime member- the decades of the Reeves visits to Newsletters $614 ship category has yet been established. PI. It was the end of another very Supplies $120 Dues for FY 2011 are now paya- good time together, we hung out ble. Please remit your payment to help Reunions $3,068 until almost midnight trying to keep us healthy. And, donations for make it last longer. I know mid- Total Expense $4,117 any amount are always very welcome. night used to be when we would Net Income $5 Charitable/Educational Objectives just be getting started partying, but what can I say, we are all getting to The USS Reeves Association is an 2010 Assets Statement educational, non-profit 501(c)(3) or- be a bunch of ―OLD‖ salts now. ganization registered with the Internal Join us next time to renew old Cash Assets $2,866 Revenue Service, FEIN 86-1163983. friendships and make new ones, it For that purpose at the 2010 business doesn‘t matter what decade you Liabilities $0 meeting, it was recommended that fu- served, or whether it was DLG or Net Equity $2,866 ture excess funds be used for donations CG; we were all shipmates. and scholarships as determined at busi- ness meetings starting in 2012. Attending Reunions and Saving Money Saving Money: Along with airfare and near the airport won't charge you that up to competing counters at the airport hotel, renting a car is one of the Big fee, you may have to take a cab that and ask if you can get a better deal. Three expenses when you travel. But will cost more than that. But some You may find a better deal on upsizing while everyone talks about how to find close-to-the-airport places run their or price. Especially if they know you cheap fares and cheap rooms, no one own shuttle service. How do you find were going to use another company. talks with the same fervor about how these places? Just Google the rental Also, asking for a free upgrade on your to find the best wheels deals. That's company. For instance, "Hertz Miami reservation never hurts. It's amazing going to become more important real airport" shows you a map of the airport what a nice smile, some kind words soon, as Hertz and Avis fight this - and another Hertz 10 blocks away. and a simple request can do - at the month to take over Dollar/Thrifty - airline ticket counter, at a hotel check- which will mean less competition and * Rent by the hour. You can use a car- in and at the rental car counter. higher prices. There are easy and not- sharing service in big and medium often-talked-about ways to save on a sized cities for as little as $7 an hour. * Conduct an online discount coupon rental car. Here are some more de- search. Just Google "car rental dis- tails... Refer to count coupons" and you'll get oodles http://www.carsharing.net/where.html of results including in some cases dis- * Rent near the airport, not at the air- for a list of locations and details. count codes. With all these coupons port. Airport rental agencies will online, there's no reason to pay retail. charge you around $10-15 just for the * Ask and you might receive. If you convenience of getting off the plane reserve a car before flying, upon arri- * Brag about your friends. Member- and into a car. While rental agencies val at the destination city simply stroll ship has its privileges when it comes to (Continued on page 7) V o l u m e 3 , I s s u e 3 Page 7 Veterans Information Bulletins Eric Wenzel (81-85) has been providing information from a website that covers a wide range of issues for veter- ans. The site is maintained by James Tichacek at American Legion Post 19 in Gulfport, MS. James posts news bul- letins semi-monthly that cover any and all topics that apply to both retirees and veterans. These include Medical Care, Medical Supplements, Travel and Immigration, Tax/SS/Insurance & Legal, Death & Survivors, Pay & Finances, & Tricare. He is a member of the following: AL/AMVETS/CORMV/DAV/FRA/NCOA/PRA/TROA/USDR/VFW/VVA The RAO bulletins can be found at: http://post_119_gulfport_ms.tripod.com/rao1.html You can subscribe to regular bulletin email deliveries, or simply browse the site looking for articles that may apply to your status. This is a free service and provides a wealth of current information to veterans and retirees. Are You Receiving All Your VA Benefits? The Department of Veterans Affairs to sign up, the agency said. The ad you've completed your service, you've unveiled a multimillion advertisement campaign began with a TV spot airing got lots of opportunities for your fu- campaign 11 OCT designed to en- in the six media markets where most ture. But health comes first. Sign up courage more military veterans to service members returning from Op- for health care at your nearest VA." enroll for government benefits and eration Enduring Freedom and Opera- Kugler also encourages veterans to services. Only about 8 million of the tion Iraqi Freedom will first arrive: El apply for the VA's Post 9/11 GI Bill, nation's 23 million veterans use VA Paso, Texas; Norfolk; Raleigh; Sa- job assistance services and a zero benefits and health-care services, and vannah, Ga.; Seattle; and Watertown, down home loan from the department. the department hopes new TV and N.Y. "Welcome home! You've served Internet advertisements and other out- your country," Marine Staff Sgt. Rob- [Source: Washington Post Ed O'Keefe reach efforts will persuade more vets ert Kugler says in the ad. "Now that 11 OCT 2010 ++] The Chaplain’s In The House It was good to see a reunion that might ations area commander for Seadragon John W. Kress (formerly LT, CHC, be possible for us to attend in the DAV while Reeves armaments didn't help USNR) and Beth list. Reeves, in her DLG days, was the much for those ops...I think you spent (John and Beth attended our Chicago first ship I reported aboard as a Chap- most of your time chasing carriers on reunion. Both passed on some great lain in January 1967 at Green Bay, Yankee station. But, the time I spent in sea stories—John about ministering to Okinawa. I had flown down from Ja- Reeves was great and I remember the a bunch of sailors and the condom pan to meet her during a refueling stop 'luxury' of my time there. Also went vending machine, and Beth about sur- to join the staff of COMDESRON aboard her while she was being refitted viving alone in Japan with two chil- NINE. Didn't spend a lot of time in her as a CG in Maine. dren. We pressed John into service for because Commodore HELM was oper- BZ for your efforts insetting this up. our banquet.) Saving Money (continued) (Continued from page 6) zation's car-rental discount codes - but lar/Thrifty), fill up the tank when you don't lie about your membership, be- return the car, and check your credit car rentals. Organizations that you'd cause you might be asked to produce card coverage and car insurance be- expect to offer discounts - like AAA, proof when you pick up the car. cause you might not need the expen- which also allows you to reserve a car sive insurance from the rental agency. online – is just the start. Trade organi- * Standard rental car advice. Shop zations ranging from journalists to around for prices by searching the [Source: Money Talk News 29 Sep wedding planners also get discounts. If websites of the major players (Hertz, 2010 ++] you're booking online, you can even Avis, Enterprise, Budget, Dol- use a website that reveals those organi- Page 8 T h e I r o n m a n — A D o u b l e E n d e r ’ s N e w s l e t t e r Treasure Your Peacoat By Michael Lamka (70-71) neck, and a convertible collar that can $140.00. For the rest of us, the second be turned up to protect the back and hand shop will show price ranges from sides of the sailor's neck from icy around $50.00 to $100.00. The pea coat has been a staple of blasts. Although there have been some naval wear for several hundred years, jackets designed in other fabrics and If you want to spend $1000.00 or and a popular civilian style for men more, you can hit zappos.com or other with a variety of colors and plaids, the websites than sell imported clothing to and women in the past 25 to 30 years. traditional pea coat is made of heavy Originally worn by sailors in European course wool and dyed either black or the well to do and where the pea coat navies, particularly British and Dutch, very dark (Navy) blue. Most pea coats style is sometimes liberally translated. the style has remained relatively un- But, whether you buy from a local manufactured today are of a wool thrift shop, an upscale retail outlet, or changed over the centuries since its blend or even of totally synthetic fab- first appearance, and by the 20th centu- rics. an online source, the price you pay ry became a part of a U.S. sailor's sea- will, eventually be up to you because bag or clothing requirements. Derived Where to buy a pea coat there is only one person who can deter- from the Dutch word, pij, the modern mine what that pea coat is worth to pea coat has changed very little since Even though the pea coat has be- you. the 1700's. come a constantly popular jacket de- sign for the non sea farer, there are not Bundle up in your pea coat. What makes a many sources for buying them. This The traditional Navy style pea coat pea coat a pea rugged outer garment isn't found in the is great for warding off the cold of coat? usual outdoorsy outlets such as Ameri- winter with fashionable style and utili- can Eagle Outfitters Cabella's or even ty. With styling available for men and Today there are LLBean. The style may be found in many variations of some upper scale retail stores, but, oth- women, look for the basics; hip length, this comfortable double breasted, wide lapel and con- er than second hand stores, it is most vertible collar, made from wool and military style coat often discovered at online outlets such available for the dark or Navy blue in color. If you want as zappos.com where styles have little to stretch your fashion sense there are non military, but resemblance to the traditional pea coat. the U.S. Navy numerous styles that wander from the For the best selection look for retail traditional, but still fit into the category standard issue stores that specialize in selling used men's pea coat remains the gold stand- military items or new copies of those of pea coats. The one overriding ele- ard for material and design. Even se- ment of the pea coat is that it must same products. keep you warm and block out those icy cond hand Navy issue pea coats attract premium prices at second hand stores One popular source for new as winter blasts. and online auction sites such as well as second hand, traditional and eBay.com. Described by Navy Uni- nontraditional pea coats is eBay, prob- ably the world's largest online auction [Ed. I still have my original issue form Regulations for enlisted men in peacoat from Great Lakes in 1963. It pay grades E-6 and below as" A dou- site. Many of the auctions are for se- has turned kind of purple-ish, but still ble-breasted, hip length coat made of cond hand Navy issue pea coats. Most keeps me warm on a Winter’s night, dark blue authorized fabric with a con- of these are post 1970's so will not be just like it did in Milwaukee and Chi- vertible collar, a set-in pocket in each the heavier weight associated with the cago all those many years ago when I forefront, and a single row of four 35- traditional pea coat. A review of the was much younger and 30 pounds line black plastic anchor buttons down pea coats available at eBay showed the lighter.] the right front and three on left." majority to be non Navy issue but ti- tled at authentic. Michael Lamka is a writer, pho- The approved fabric was, until the tographer, and digital designer. He 1970's, a heavy 30 oz Melton wool. What should I pay for my pea coat? writes about industry, labor, veterans' Post 1970's Navy issue pea coats are affairs, and other topics on his list of lighter weight. With prices ranging from $50.00 for a well worn second hand pea coat eclectic interests. His web postings The basic elements of a pea coat to over $1700.00 for not very accurate and articles can be found at: consist of a jacket that is hip length, copies of the traditional style, it seems http://www.associatedcontent.com/ double breasted to provide a seal the sky's the limit on prices. If you user/497127/michael_lamka.html against cold winds, a wide lapel to have access to a Navy Uniform Shop, close the coat just below the wearer's you can buy the original for under V o l u m e 3 , I s s u e 3 Page 9 Reunion Chicago 2010 Photography Top Row: Bill Funk, Tom Bailey, John Kress, Dick Brown, Bill Woodward, Gerry Hines, Jerry Bolain Bottom Row: Mike Robertson, Charles Elkins, Paul Bernier, Ron Redfield, John Miller, Kurt Stuvengen Top Row: Nancy Elkins, Vicki Funk, Fumiyo Stuvengen, Florence Miller, Janet Hines Bottom Row: Lorri Robertson, Mary Bailey, Nora Bernier, Beth Kress Photographer: All photography were taken by Nancy Elkins (email@example.com). Nancy will provide copies of groups and individual couples photos for a nominal cost for printing and postage. Page 10 T h e I r o n m a n — A D o u b l e E n d e r ’ s N e w s l e t t e r Where Are We? At our Chicago reunion business East West evenly split. The Central states lag meeting, Bill Funk asked about the Region Count Central a bit, but are certainly well repre- Coast Coast demographics of known shipmates. sented. There are more than enough Northeast 118 118 Thus this report. potential attendees in each region to Southeast 104 104 There are over 1,000 names of Midwest 100 100 justify continuing with our efforts to shipmates in the data base. Nearly Southwest 75 75 build the USS Reeves Association. all of these names came from online Northwest 46 46 Not surprising was the number of sites such as the Reeves Website Central 37 37 shipmates in the various states. Deck Log, Tin Can Sailors Associa- Mountain 17 17 Eight states comprise more than tion, Military.com, Together We South 15 17 50% if the data base. Given Reeves Served and the U.S. Navy Cruiser West 113 113 history in the Pacific, it‘s not sur- Pacific 12 12 Sailors Association. These are ship- prising that California has the most Totals 637 222 171 246 mates who have expressed interest in shipmates, nearly double Florida Percent- the ship and other shipmates. That‘s ages 35% 27% 39% and State Count Pct Texas. probably 25% of the total crew who CA 99 16% served onboard Reeves between 1964 Shipmate counts by nation-wide region FL 50 8% and 1993. It‘s not a bad statistic. TX 50 8% cause it helps us plan for future reun- VA 33 5% We have identified shipmates‘ lo- ions. The table to the right shows the cations by state even though we may IL 28 4% potential number of shipmates that WA 27 4% not have a complete mailing address. could show up at a regional reunion. NC 20 3% In many instances, we have email ad- dresses. If Hawaii, Guam and Puerto Rico OH 20 3% are not included, the division between Shipmate locations in the most populous This information is important be- East Coast and West Coast are pretty states Veterans Day Appreciation Many businesses are marking Veterans Day with discounts con Cheeseburger and 7oz. House Sirloin. All you need to for military veterans. Both Lowe‘s and The Home Depot do is show proof of military service. provide this discount year around. www.applebees.com/vetsDay Other appreciation events include the following: November 15, 2010 will mark the 10th anniversary of Golden Corral's Military Appreciation Monday dinner. B&Bs and Inns are providing free rooms on Wednesday, November 10, in observance of Veterans Day, November The free dinner meal is a special "thank you tribute" to any 11, to honor servicemen and women currently serving or person who has ever served in the United States Military. If who have previously served their country. The program you are a veteran, retired, currently serving, in the National was started in 2009 by the West Virginia B&B Association Guard or Reserves, you are invited to join us for Golden (formerly called MABB) and this year has expanded to Corral's Military Appreciation Monday dinner. include 48 states, 4 international locations and more than 700 Inns. To locate a Golden Corral near you, visit www.goldencorral.com/locator. To see properties that are participating in the program, go to: Proof of Service: http://www.bnbsforvets.org/participants.html U.S. Uniform Services Identification Card (active or retired) Current Leave and Earnings Statement (LES) Head to Applebee's on November 11, 2010, where you'll Photograph in uniform be able to choose a FREE entree* from a special Veterans Wearing uniform Day menu — which includes popular favorites like the Ba- Veterans Organization Card (i.e. American Legion) V o l u m e 3 , I s s u e 3 Page 11 Have You Heard? The U.S. Navy answers the question: * Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Naval grated and interoperable world-class "Why did the chicken cross the Forces, Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR): chicken to warriors and supporting road?" The purpose is not important. What is elements, enabling them to dominate important is that the chicken re- the roads of today and tomorrow, as * Naval Education and Training mained under the OPCON of we move "Forward...From the Sea." Command (NAVEDTRA): The pur- COMSIXTHFLEET and did not Comptroller holds and corporate tax- pose is to familiarize the chicken with CHOP to the theater on the other side es, however, will require delay field- road-crossing procedures. Road- of the road. Without Chopping, the ing for two years, unless Congres- crossing should be performed only chicken was able to achieve a seam- sional plus-ups are approved. between the hours of sunset and sun- less road-crossing with near perfect, rise. Solo chickens must have at least real-time in-transit visibility. * NAVSEASYSCOM's Chicken Sys- three miles of visibility and a safety tems Program Office observer. (PMS400CSPO): In a partnering rela- tionship with the client, helped the * Bureau of Naval Personnel chicken by rethinking its physical (BUPERS): Due to the needs of the distribution strategy and implementa- Navy, chicken was involuntarily reas- tion processes. The CSPO helped the signed to the other side of the road. chicken change to continue meeting This will be 3-year unaccompanied its mission. However, the actual tour and we promise to give the crossing of the road has not occurred chicken a good-deal assignment after- due to the number of action items still wards. Every chicken will be required * Naval Air Systems Command open from the meeting. to do one road-crossing during its (NAVAIRSYSCOM): The chicken career, and this will not affect its op- was instructed to hold short of the * Naval Intelligence: What chicken? portunities for future promotion. road. This road incursion incident was reported in a Hazardous Chicken [Source: RAO Bulletin 16 October * Naval Air Warfare Center Road-Crossing Report (HCRCR). 2010++] (NAWC): This event will need con- Please re-emphasize that chickens are firmation; we need to repeat it using required to read back all hold short instructions. Ed. I believe George Orwell coined varied chicken breeds, road types, and the term “double speak” in his novel, weather conditions to confirm wheth- 1984. A banquet chicken is still a er it can actually happen within the * Space and Naval Warfare Systems rubber chicken. And, if the bird parameters specified for chickens and Command (SPAWARSYSCOM): crossed an interstate highway, it the remote possibility that they might The "stovepipe" chickens of today would be road kill and never make cross thruways designated by some as will be replaced with a multi- the other side. "roads." function, supported, affordable, inte- Mesothelioma Information Tens of thousands of veterans who mesothelioma). Some studies show If you believe you have been ex- worked with asbestos while in the that as many as 30 percent of all posed to these diseases, go to: United States Armed Forces have Americans with mesothelioma can- http://www.mesothelioma.com/ been diagnosed with some sort of cer are veterans who were exposed Or call 800-336-0086 for further asbestos-related disease, including while on active duty. asbestosis and mesothelioma, the information USS Reeves was one such duty sta- latter a particularly difficult-to-fight tion. During several extensive asbestos cancer that affects the lin- overhauls, the Engineering depart- Vote on November 2nd! ing of the lungs (pleural mesotheli- ment in particular was subject to oma), abdomen (peritoneal meso- excessive exposure to asbestos in- It’s our duty and our thelioma), or heart (pericardial sulation. American privilege. First Class Postage ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTED USS Reeves Association 15709 N Sycamore St Mead, WA 99021 http://www.ussreeves.net Please check your mailing label. If it doesn’t say Current, please re- new your Association dues to help continuing this newsletter.