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Hi,

My name is Michael Hume, and in researching my family history, we have
discovered that my G2 Grandfather Benjamin Banks, aged 36, was the Master of a
ship called the "Fanny", and according to the 1861 census, he was aboard this
ship on the night of Sunday of April 7th when the Census was taken at Holyhead,
Anglesea. There were two seamen and a boy also listed on the Census.

My G2 Grandfather Samuel Thomas, was also a Master and part owner of a trow
called "Miner", unfortunately it was shipwrecked in early 1881.

Both G2 Grandparents lived in Framilode, Wheatenhurst, Gloucester, Benjamine
Banks at the "Bell Inn", and Samuel Thomas at the cottage next door, No.1 Canal
Row, Frampton.

Samuel Thomas jnr., aged 17, was located on the 1881 Census as working on the
ship "Wave", docked at Padstow, Cornwall, as an Ordinary Seaman. The Master
was recorded as George Frederick Nurse aged 29, and another member of the
crew, a Mate, was a Anthony Page aged 21.

Would it be possible to find out any details of these ships?

Many thanks

Mike Hume

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Benjamin Banks Master of Fanny (1861 Census)

Grandfather Benjamin Banks, aged 36, was the Master of a ship called the
"Fanny", and according to the 1861 census

Mike based on your information I would suggest you have a choice of two vessels,
if it were me I would go with the 1840 vessel but I have provided both just in case
you unearth more info in the future.

Vessel Fanny
Official number not recorded
Built 1820, Bideford
Builder Chapple & Loverny
Owner J Kemp, Braunton.
Port of Registry Barnstaple
Net Registered tonnage 40
Dimensions 46.6ftx14.2ftx8ft

Vessel Fanny
Official number 15564
Built 1840, Bideford
Builder George Bragington
Owner J Kemp, Barnstaple
        W Tamplyn, Barnstaple
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Signal Letters L.T.S.M
Port of Registry Barnstaple
Net Registered tonnage 49
Notes lengthened 1843, first rigged as a sloop, then a schooner, later ketch rigged

Please consider
1883 - the Fanny of Aberthaw was wrecked off Barry. She had been sailing the
Channel for 130 years since she was built at Aberthaw.


Fanny a decked vessel was recorded as entering Bristol

(This photo exists : Fanny Lydney Ketch 1846)

Benjamin Banks grave is to be found in Saul Church yard plot number 393 giving
his age at the time of his death on 21st August 1882 as 55 years., this sadly
contradicts your information which advises that he was 36 in 1861 some 21 years
earlier. Depending on your point of view he was either 34 in 1861 or his
gravestone is incorrect. The latter of course would be nigh on impossible as his
family would had commissioned the stone and thus would have been the best
placed to confirm his age. Why therefore was his age incorrect in 1836, one
possible reason the census returns were completed by the vessels Captain and
not Benjamin himself. Incidentally the grave also holds the remains of Benjamin’s,
wife Eliza who passed away aged 64 on 8th November 1895 Failing that, this may
in fact, not be your Benjamin in the first place (would you let me know as im
intrigued)


Samuel Thomas Master of Miner (Wrecked 1881)

My G2 Grandfather Samuel Thomas, was also a Master and part owner of a
trow called "Miner", unfortunately it was shipwrecked in early 1881.

Vessel Miner
Official number 10801
Built 1830 St. Helens
Owner S Ford, Saul
Port of Registry Bridgwater
Net Registered tonnage 43

We also have a W G C L Thomas (Mrs) buried in plot 383n, there is mention of
/her son/ who died in Brooklyn USA March 13 th 1894. Sorry no other Thomas’ are
buried at Saul church and we have no further info thereof.

Minor a decked vessel was recorded as entering Bristol

George Fredrick Nurse Master of Wave 29 (1881 census)
Two incidents t oconsider

1) GLOUCESTER JOURNAL SATURDAY 6TH OCTOBER 1883
MONDAY 1ST OCTOBER 1883

Fatal accident in the Bristol Channel – Capt Fredrick Nurse of the Smack Sarah, of
Gloucester, while on his passage from Lydney to Bridgwater, on Monday morning,
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accident occurred at the Gore, near the mouth of the Bridgewater River. The
deceased was well known in Cardiff having long been a regular trader to
Bridgwater.

2) Not so the little GUIDE of Weymouth, which became the SHAMROCK on the
canal. Fortunately, she can still be recognised as one of the little vessels at
Purton . It was in this vessel that, Capt George Nurse sailed from Liverpool bound
round home to Saul, when in the vicinity of the South Stack Light, Holyhead, he
went aloft to look for the light in order to establish his position, when he slipped
and fell overboard, never to be seen again.

And Finally it does not appear to be as a result of the demon drink

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

On Thursday 4th February a Temperence Tea Meeting was held in the bottom of a
new barge now being built by Mr F Nurse on Dudbridge Wharf. About 170
persons took tea after which the Chair was taken by Mr T Parsons of Stroud and
the meeting was addressed by Rev B Parsons. Mr Uwins, Sargeant of Police, and
George Shepherd, the builder of the barge, strongly recommending to the
audience then present to abstain from intoxicating drinks. On Friday 5th February,
another meeting was held in the same place, at which the Rev T Uwins, Minister of
St Matthews Church, Cainscross was present. The Rev Gentleman opened the
meeting with a very appropriate prayer, and addressed the audience on the
advantages of total abstinence. The meeting was then addressed by other friends
of the cause, and was closed with a prayer by the Rev T Uwins. Since the
meeting 27 individuals have signed the pledge. On the following Sunday, the Rev
B Parsons preached on the barge from the words “as the rain and the snow
cometh down from the heaven and watereth the earth” the Rev Gentleman proved
that trees and plants were water drinkers, almost everything was a water drinker
but man, and as the earth received the rain and snow, so do poor sinners receive
the word of god to nourish and prepare them to live in this world and the world
above. Mr F Nurse of Dudbridge and his brother James Nurse of Framilode are
both pledged members of the total abstinence society. It is their intention in April
or May when the vessel is finished, instead of having a drunken feast, as is
generally the case, to have a total abstinence meeting.
Anthony Page Mate of Wave 21

Samuel Thomas Ordinary Seaman of Wave 17

Samuel Thomas jnr., aged 17, was located on the 1881 Census as working
on the ship "Wave", docked at Padstow, Cornwall, as an Ordinary Seaman

Vessel Wave
Official number 29844
Built 1864, Appledore
Builder William Clibbett
Owner J Day, Appledore
Signal Letters Q.H.J.N
Port of Registry Bideford
Net Registered tonnage 55
Notes Built as a polaccu schooner, then rigged as a brigantine schooner and then
finally as a ketch. Went ashore Saunton Sands, November 1922, re-floated and
repaired. Remained In trade until 1930s
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       Last recorded managing owners (1931) Herbert V. George, 39 Orchard Street,
       Weston Super Mare.

       (A picture of this vessel exists in our archive)

       A further vessel called Wave was recorded as visiting Bridgwater

       Thus

Name     ON        Built           When    Builder    Dim           N    G    Abandoned
Wave     56367     Bridgwater      1868    Gough      71x18.2x7.1   53   71   off Peel IOM
                                                                              18.11.27

       Captain Nurse was part of a huge family of local ship owners trading from
       Gloucester to the entire South West Region, His history is recorded in The Nurse
       Family, see http://www.swmaritime.org.uk/forums/thread.php?threadid=235

       We also have a Nurse descendant with the Friends of Purton (I have forwarded
       your contact details to him)

       We have several Nurse and Page graves within Saul Church

       Both G2 Grandparents lived in Framilode, Wheatenhurst, Gloucester,
       Benjamin Banks at the "Bell Inn", and Samuel Thomas at the cottage next
       door, No.1 Canal Row, Frampton.

       Both building still exist

       FINAL FOOD 4 THOUGHT
       Name               P.O.R                 Description       Dates
       Wherry Packet      Gloucester 16/39 Wd bge                 1835-
       1912Gloucester 6/54
       Dimensions (1839) L. 63.2 B. 13.1 D. 2.8
       Tonnage – (1839) G 25.2500 N 58           B.D 3500
       (1854) L. 63.2     B. 13.1        D. 2.8
        Tonnage – (1850) G 26       N       B.D
       (     ) L.   B.    D.
       Tonnage – (1884) G 25 2500 N         B.D 3500
       Builders     Benthall, F. s. Gother,
       Engines                     By
       H.P.
       Miscellaneous
       O.N.11709          Code
       First Owners
       Changes            24.8.39 (64) T.S.Richardson (William Wotton) Luke Pyfinch
                          Maybury, Worcester
                          13.2.54 (64) Roderick Rice, Gloucester
                          14.2.54 (64) Roderick Rice, Gloucester
                          14.2.54 (64) Thomas Webb (Roderick Rice Jr) Roderick Rice,
                          Gloucester
                          27.2.54 mgr (64) Joshua Thomas & Lauriston Winterbotham
                          Lewis, Tewkesbury
                          2.2.56 mgr (64) William Lane, Stroud (65)

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                        5.1.67 (64) Stratford Flour Mills Co. Ltd, Stroud (68 73 76 78
                        81)
                        13.7.67 (32) Joseph Lane (32) John Clark, Stroud
                        10.1.87 (32) Harriett Clark (w) Saul, (32) John Clark, Stroud
                        17.1.87 (32) Thomas Cratchley, Stroud & (32) Harriett Clark
                        (w) Saul
                        17.1.87 (32) Zaccheus Whitting, Eastington, (32) Harriett
                        Clark (w) Saul 17.1.87 (64) Zaccheus Whitting, Eastington,
                        20.10.94 (64) James Smart, Chalford
                        1.9.96 (32) James Herbert, Framilode, (32) James Smart,
                        Chalford
                        3.10.96 (32) James Herbert, Framilode, (32) Benjamin
                        Herbert, Framilode,
                        4.10.98 (64) James Herbert, Framilode,
   Photographs in
   Lloyds Class
   Fate
   Notes
   Glos 16/24.8.39: 1,1,bge,sliding, sq, cvl,-,-(dim)
   Glos 6/14.2.54: 1,1,bge,stg, sq, cvl,-,-(dim)

Official     Name          Built           Owner            Reg    Vessel      Port of
Number                                                      Tons    type      Register
 63388     Susannah     Framilode      William Arron         68    Ketch      Newport
                          1871       Thomas 2 Mount
                                      Pleasant Terrace
                                     North Street Bristol




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