Feb 26, 2009 3:00:09 PM - PBS - CR20 JOHN PALFREY BORN DIGITAL
00:02 - knoble
Here we go!
00:30 - Lisa Francine
Me too about Twitter...
00:35 - Jeanne
Loved the book!!
00:41 - John Palfrey
00:48 - digiduchess 1
01:06 - digiduchess 1
heard on twitter too
01:09 - knoble
02:21 - Nancy Bergvall
much better ..thanks
02:37 - Gina
Brandi, I work in Mpls in Adult Basic Ed, live in St Paul
04:32 - Mary
Mary in New Jersey
04:50 - Kelly
Am I the only one in Alaska?!
05:07 - Brittany
05:12 - digiduchess 1
what part of alaska
05:15 - knoble
Well, my dot is in the general vicinity of my city....
05:18 - KB
someone else from cincinnati?
05:18 - Laura
05:22 - Kelly
05:34 - Lorraine Leo
Newton, MA, USA
05:34 - Kathy Schrock
Cape Cod, MA 35 degrees
05:34 - Jeanne
Laguna Niguel CA 78
05:35 - Meg GSU
05:36 - Laura
puerto rico 85 F
05:36 - digiduchess 1
I loved it was there two summers ago
05:38 - samantha Dieterman
Cypress, CA 76
05:38 - patty
near fort worth tx 85 degrees
05:38 - Lois Cox
Onalaska, WI - 30 degrees
05:39 - cathy ikeda
Hilo, HI 69
05:39 - Melissa K
Phoenix, clear and 75
05:39 - bran
NY 21 degrees F
05:40 - Tess
05:41 - Sherri McKendree
05:41 - harold yoder
Canton Ohio 45
05:41 - Nina
Sarasota Fl, 70
05:41 - Jen
05:42 - HReid
Cleveland, Oh 41 and Rainty
05:42 - Forrest Sherman
05:42 - Chelsea P
Pittsburgh PA (go steelers!) 50
05:43 - Allyn
providence, RI 26F
05:43 - Dixie M Davis
05:43 - digiduchess 1
05:43 - jllarsen
State College, PA 38 C
05:44 - claire fontaine
05:44 - Nancy Bergvall
Midlothian, TX 85 F
05:44 - Kari 1
Hartford County, CT - balmy 40
05:44 - Luis
NY 35 f
05:44 - Sr. Janice Novak
New Jersey 50
05:45 - KB
Cincinnati, OH 45
05:45 - Sharon Carter
69 Valdosta GA
05:45 - Rose
05:46 - Karen
05:46 - Laura 1
Laura: Brandon, VT, 40 degrees
05:46 - Kelly
Cold, snow, cold. I no longer look at temps. :)
05:46 - MaryBeth Applegate
05:46 - Travis
Travis: West Virginia, 65F
05:46 - Jenna
Singapore, about 28 celcius (88F?)
05:46 - tshreve
Who else from northeast OH?
05:47 - Brittany
OH, 40s, Rainy
05:47 - Sandra
05:47 - dmmacallister
05:47 - Tiffany
Boone Iowa 30 degrees
05:47 - Diane Smoot
St. Louis, MO 66 degrees
05:47 - Laura
puerto rico 85 F
05:48 - Peter L
05:48 - Mike LoMonico
05:49 - lstryker
Fryeburg, Maine 22F, clear
05:49 - jane.arcaya
05:50 - Michelle
05:50 - Christine
Santa Monica, CA 70
05:51 - Roxann
Green Bay, WI where a HUGE blizzard is happening!
05:52 - sallenharris
Cleveland, Oh 30
05:52 - maria teresa
miami fl 70 degrees
05:52 - Brooke
hey now steelers fans - calm down
05:53 - Sara
Berkeley, CA 54 and a bit cloudy
05:53 - Lynn McCollum
The Woodlands TX 73 degrees
05:53 - Molly M
Albany, Or 50 degrees
05:54 - pat walsh
Williamstown, NJ 50degrees
05:55 - email@example.com
05:56 - digiduchess 1
05:58 - Gina
St Paul 24 and snowing
05:59 - katerha
Cedarville, Mi 29 degrees blizzard 10 inches of snow predicted
05:59 - Kerry Armstead
Kerry Armstead: San Antonio, TX 87 degrees
06:00 - EliseT
06:00 - Chelsea P
06:00 - rrobe1
Seattle WA - about 40F - rainy of course!!
06:00 - Susanne Lercher
susanne lercher newyork 40's
06:00 - Shoe
Athens, GA 50
06:01 - Lisa Francine
Maynard, MA 37 degrees
06:01 - digiduchess 1
06:03 - Lynn
Green Bay WU snow, sleet and thunderstorm 22 degrees!
06:03 - Tracey
06:04 - Brandi 1
Madison, WI cold and thunderstorming
06:06 - Janie
Otsego Michigan 45
06:07 - mpwooten
Greensboro, NC 57F, was a gorgeous day
06:07 - kpartridge
New York, 34
06:07 - Camille
06:07 - Kari LaPoint
Mashpee MA 44 cloudy
06:07 - Donna Frank
South Texas 75 degrees+
06:07 - Ginger Bechtold
Atlantic, Ia windy, 31
06:08 - sghet
06:08 - jan
Grand Island, NE 46
06:09 - Kari
Naples FL 70
06:09 - Steve Hargadon
Wow. The chat is FAST!
06:10 - carole
Vermont 40 degrees
06:10 - Amy Ulen
Snowy in Yelm, WA today!
06:11 - Diane Smoot
St. Louis, MO 66 degrees
06:13 - mvbell
CCorpus Christi, Tx 78 and gorgeous
06:14 - Chelsea P
There you are dr. johnson
06:14 - maureen
Cummington, Ma 29Â°
06:15 - Kari 1
Go Athens GA!
06:21 - claire fontaine
hi Istryker in Fryeburg - I'm from Maine!
06:21 - Lindsey McCarter
Chattanooga, TN 60
06:22 - Lisa Francine
VERY FAST CHAT
06:23 - Karen
06:23 - Tracey
06:25 - Brooke
06:26 - anigram
San Francisco 56 degrees
06:27 - Patty Jones
06:28 - John
John: Charlottesville, Va - nice and mild
06:31 - karen d
Karen D RI clear 38degrees starry
06:37 - digiduchess 1
Kari we are almost neighbors
06:37 - Jennifer L
Hi, everyone! In Knoxville, TN, it is overcast and cool in the low 60s.
06:40 - digiduchess 1
06:42 - Bruce Tan
Kunmingï¼ŒChina, temp. 60f, 9am Friday
07:05 - katherine Heilman
Pittsburgh, PA balmy 50
07:08 - Chris
London temp 9 degrees C (48 F???) 1am here
07:19 - claire fontaine
the volume just got quite low for me
07:24 - Brooke
07:25 - Chelsea P
07:29 - becky
07:36 - Tom Riley
It is fine for me
07:37 - patty
07:40 - Janie
07:42 - Amy Ulen
John's volume is much lower than Jenny's
07:44 - Subhra 1
can u please be a little louder
07:45 - Gail Newfield
07:52 - tshreve
turn it up with the speaker icon
07:54 - Lynn McCollum
did get too low for me also
07:56 - Camille
07:59 - Pam Shamel
Gainesville, FL 60 and sunny
08:05 - becky
08:05 - Alicia McDermott
got really low
08:14 - knoble
Pittsburgh, PA, 50% and a bit overcast.
08:20 - claire fontaine
my speaker icon is all the way up in elluminatte as well as computer
08:22 - katherine Heilman
Hi Chelsea! Nice to see another Steeler Fan!
08:34 - Chelsea P
ohhh yah baby, sixburgh
08:48 - Ariel Poss
Chattanooga, TN 60
08:49 - Tiffany
hi katherine-iowa transplated steelers fan here!
08:55 - Lynn McCollum
All volume controls are completely up but it is still too low
09:01 - Nancy Bergvall
Anyone here from Midlothian ISD?
09:06 - claire fontaine
wait - i should blame my boyfriend who is playing FIFA in the room!
09:11 - digiduchess 1
NIna live in sarasota teach in manatee
09:16 - Chris
if you have headphones it will be louder for you
09:30 - knoble
You have my sympathy, Claire.
09:31 - Chris Shamburg
he's up to 176
09:46 - Laura 1
Please turn up the mic??? I have headphones, but others want to listen
09:49 - Bob
Chris, here from the Folger
09:56 - Jason
There was a discussion in Australia recently questioning the term "digital natives" Is
it an accurate term? What do u think?
10:06 - joann Heffernan
i'm having problem hearing, too!
10:07 - Chris
10:09 - claire fontaine
@knoble - at least he isn't doing the interactive gaming at the moment!
10:15 - Tiffany
I adjusted the sound volume along the bottom of the screen and it helped with the
10:24 - knoble
Ooooh, Claire, what kind of game does he play?
10:39 - Gail Newfield
why do we hear 2 people talking?
11:22 - claire fontaine
@ knoble - one zombie game in particular - left for dead
11:26 - ronia
ok how do I put green or red?
11:36 - katherine Heilman
How do you show checks, Immigrant obviously
11:39 - cathy ikeda
11:42 - sue
click the x or check on the slide
11:49 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
ronia- top left of your screen green check or red x
12:00 - Lisa Francine
Do you mean create original works or repost other works
12:13 - Gina
i don't see a check mark next to my name
12:22 - ronia
thanks. at very top'
12:25 - knoble
Uh, by social network, do you mean, like Facebook?
12:31 - Tom Riley
12:32 - carinac
12:32 - Jeanne
12:33 - Lisa Francine
Yes to Facebook
12:40 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
facebook, twitter, pbs teachers as social networks....
12:46 - Judy Pederson
facebook & twitter
12:47 - knoble
Does LJ count?
12:48 - katherine Heilman
12:55 - Sharon Carter
thanks on check mark location
12:58 - John Palfrey
12:59 - Brandi 1
what is a virtual world?
13:01 - Jeanne
13:05 - Amy Ulen
Who has time?!
13:08 - knoble
Ah, well, I answered right then. :D
13:08 - Brandi 1
What is second light?
13:12 - Jason
@Brandi second life is biggest one
13:12 - Lorraine Leo
13:13 - katherine Heilman
what is second world?
13:13 - Jeanne
13:14 - Brooke
does doing it tonight in class for the 1st time count? :-P
13:15 - Lindsey McCarter
What is that?
13:16 - Tiffany
13:17 - knoble
We're doing that later in the semester.
13:17 - ronia
move hand on slide
13:20 - Nancy Bergvall
I've seen it, but don't get it
13:27 - Roxann
the checks and x's are at the top left of your Elluminate screen
13:32 - Amy Ulen
Lord of the Rings Online...I'm a hobbit!
13:43 - katherine Heilman
13:43 - Brandi 1
does bejeweled count?
13:44 - Jeanne
SL is great for the virtual libraries, ISTE, ALA, etc.
13:46 - knoble
I used to play Ragnarok Online.
13:48 - Lynn
Who has time to play in the world of IT?
13:49 - knoble
Not anymore, though.
13:57 - Laura
hey im going to serach for myself now....
14:12 - Milobo
Interesting to see what comes up in a search for your name!
14:14 - Michelle
Also my children, would be suprised what teens are up too.
14:18 - ronia
agree, who has time, mainly kids
14:27 - katherine Heilman
transplant 26 years ago! from CT
14:44 - Subhra 1
14:56 - Lindsey McCarter
err..frozen screen when I was searching the chat log
15:15 - Gail Newfield
we can't hear John
15:32 - Nancy Bergvall
hi, t-kay and martha
15:47 - T-Kay
hey nancy...where's martha?
16:01 - Nancy Bergvall
16:03 - knoble
Yeah, I was curious of that, because I pretty much grew up without computers.
16:05 - T-Kay
i loved the virual question...educators don't have time, we are preparing for TAKS!
16:06 - amy
have they said if the presentation will be online afterwards for sharing with
16:12 - Tiffany
it will be
16:13 - Tom Riley
any one from Wake Tech here?
16:20 - amy
16:23 - Tiffany
the previous session is availble also
16:24 - Nancy Bergvall
let's chat on facebook when this is over
16:26 - Tiffany
16:31 - ronia
as a teacher, it is surprising how many don't have computers/internet at home
16:34 - T-Kay
kk for me
16:35 - knoble
My first contact was in first grade with a first-gen Macintosh.
16:37 - eslteach
I'm from Fayetteville Tech
16:39 - Kip Sparkman
I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't hear John.
16:47 - Brittany
Ronia - you're right, but most have access somewhere
17:00 - Chelsea P
same here, oragon trail was my first incounter with comps
17:01 - Gail Newfield
we can hear John now
17:07 - claire fontaine
me too, born in 1980
17:10 - Brooke
i was born in 83.....but sometimes I feel like a digital immigrant!
17:10 - Laura 1
Sound is much, much better now! Thank you.
17:11 - claire fontaine
17:12 - Chelsea P
17:14 - ronia
but if you have it only intermittently are you realy a native, or just a visitor
17:30 - amy
i think i must be a visitor
17:37 - Shoe
born in 1946
17:43 - lizastro
I'm from UTSA
17:44 - knoble
I think I consider myself an immigrant. I can remember my life without technology.
17:46 - harold yoder
17:50 - ronia
it is how they use it though, I know more about how to use "business" apps though
born in 66
17:54 - Luis
17:54 - Brittany
Ronia - I think that's a good question. I know some people have said that it's a
generational thing, though clearly from this discussion it's not necessarily so
17:58 - Tiffany
I think its a state of mind...
17:59 - mpwooten
17:59 - Laura 1
I'm born in '61...digital is the new educational platform...finding myself reinvigorated
through digital potentials!
18:00 - patty
I am DSL (digital as a second language)
18:11 - T-Kay
definitely a state of mind
18:12 - Tiffany
and technology dependant
18:12 - Brandi 1
I like that
18:12 - Brooke
18:13 - Nancy Bergvall
i love DSL
18:14 - Lisa Francine
centipide, millipede, spyhunter, tapper, and pac man were my first and favorite
arcade games (pre-computer game era)
18:15 - Steve Hargadon
18:20 - MM
I teach in HS an am surprised at how many are facile with their phone but not facile
with productivity software.
18:21 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
born in 1974 and used computer in elementary school
18:23 - claire fontaine
18:30 - Rose
born '48-definitely a state of mind
18:32 - ronia
useful technologies or entertianment technology
18:34 - Kip Sparkman
born in 54, but have been involved in technology related fields since the 10th grade
18:36 - lizastro
I also love DSL
18:39 - T-Kay
like that term" participation Gap"
18:43 - Lois Cox
Hadn't hearn DSL--love it.
18:44 - amy
18:45 - Travis
Travis: I was born in 1951 and still trying to learn as much as I can so I can be a
more effective teacher.
18:45 - Molly M
DSL l like that too
18:49 - Susanne Lercher
for all us digital immigrants out there, it sure helps to have offspring who are digital
natives and can help us adjust to technology
18:57 - Kelly
YES< it is a state of mind! :)
19:00 - Chris
i believe it's an overstatement that today's generation of children are all digital
natives - I teach many children who are just as scared and intimidated by technology
as many adults
19:02 - knoble
I agree with that.
19:04 - Sandra
I agree. I was born in 46
19:05 - Laura 1
I like the distinction! Suggests that digital can cross generation gap
19:06 - tshreve
what is the role of the teacher vs the school in getting technologically involved?
19:07 - ronia
Is it more about accomplishing something with technology or just comfort with and
"sophistication" with technology
19:10 - Gina
computers have become more like an appliance than a true technology?
19:10 - Jeannine 1
We are 5 Immagrants and 6 Natives in our class
19:15 - Subhra 1
so from 1980-2009 is a long range. should we put them in the same category?
19:21 - jllarsen
Do the "natives" see older teachers as invaders?
19:22 - BethU
I definitely agree it's a state of mind. I was born in 47 and use more technologies
than my son born in 1988
19:40 - Kelly
MySpace harassment suicide?
19:44 - John Palfrey
BethU: I think it's also a culture as well as a state of mind
19:45 - katherine Heilman
becoming literate in technology
19:47 - T-Kay
nancy, love the last paragraph on this slide!
19:52 - Allyn
look at facebook, and all the data there
19:54 - amy
do any of you know of free email for kids at school?
19:55 - MM
Me to - bonr in 44 and use more than my daughter .
19:59 - knoble
I sort of grew into technology.
20:02 - cnelson
it is not volume - it is comfort with
20:05 - Tom Riley
Do you think the Dateline people are monitoring this?
20:05 - Nancy Bergvall
20:07 - Kelly
John, not really. I am the only techie in my family and friends.
20:11 - Allyn
20:15 - ronia
BUT HOW ARE YOU USING TECHNOLOGY?
20:17 - Luis
We just got you Tube back Yeah!
20:21 - Susanne Lercher
many students are searching online without parental supervision
20:31 - cnelson
I use more technology but it takes longer to learn
20:33 - KB
social networking doesn't make one competent on a computer
20:33 - Sharon Carter
as older teacher I feel my digital natives are very friendly, helpful, I count on them
20:40 - ronia
20:44 - Brooke
if we block things from kids - they're just going to find it anyway with a proxy - we
need to teach them how to use the web appropriately
20:44 - Martha Lackey
I also love that last pararaph
20:45 - katherine Heilman
Patty, I like that one, DSL, you must have ESL students
20:55 - Tiffany
they get "search" they dont get "REsearch"
20:59 - Nancy Bergvall
our teachers would love this format of staff development
20:59 - Brandi 1
I think educating kids on how to use the technology in a safe way is important.
Didn't we all have good touch bad touch programs?? Kind of like that, but safety for
21:02 - Kelly
Ronia, do you know that all caps means shouting?
21:05 - Jeannine 1
I agree with you Brooke:)
21:06 - Jen
i agree with Brooke
21:09 - Nina
I think validity and reliablilty of information is more important to learn than to worry
21:13 - digiduchess 1
we need to be giving them something to do rather than block
21:14 - Laura
Oh in PR there was an article that wah tyou publidh in Facebook is their property
21:15 - ronia
21:18 - Laura 1
so, I think you are saying...if we create motivating, educational reasons to use
on-line info/resources/tools...the more involved we will become in their digital
explorations...the more we can guide/facilitate.
21:21 - Jeanne
SNS use d/n make them good researchers
21:22 - Michelle
I believe it is impossible to protect teens from internet. They need protection from
themselves, EX provocative pics of themselves.
21:23 - Sandra
Some of us in my school district are considering a Parent University on just this sort
of thing. Parents need to know as well as students.
21:24 - digiduchess 1
we need teach them how to be out ther
21:29 - Laura
I put too much info on the pages
21:33 - Ptarrant
I see kids taking more responsiblity for their own safety.
21:49 - Chelsea P
I agree with ptarrant
21:50 - BethU
Define using technology... Social networking, conferencing, bookmarking, what?
21:51 - RDlugosz
i'm worried about the lack of sensory learning time for very young children - some as
young as 4 and 5 are online somewhat already - can they spare the time
21:51 - Brittany
21:52 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
do your school districts have policies against cyberbullying? mine does but many
don't so am curious
21:57 - Travis
Travis: I believe we worry about this too much, sometimes. Certainly children
need to be taught and reminded frequently of the dangers. But we also need to
trust them while protecting them.
21:58 - Susanne Lercher
I agree with Sandra - you have to keep the parents aware of what is out there
22:03 - knoble
I never put my full name out on the WWW, unless it's in an educational setting like
22:09 - jllarsen
#1 lesson for kids on use of online world--Learn to be skeptical. Not only as relates
to sexual predators, but also intellectual predators--like misinformation,
22:12 - Jeanne
they don't scroll - 24/7 pervasive always on immediate gratification
22:14 - Laura
that what you publish on facebook in their property
22:15 - Michelle
I have 2 year olds online already
22:22 - becky
it starts young
22:24 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
what about protecting kids against their peers like where cyberbullying is concerned
esp through social networking sites like facebook?
22:34 - cnelson
I am in a room full of strangers
22:39 - becky
i teach three yr olds who already know their way around a computer
22:47 - katherine Heilman
I agree, many are intimidated children
22:47 - KB
there are educational search engines that can filter out all the inappropriate stuff
22:54 - ronia
Know their way around the computer, but what can they accomplish?
22:55 - KB
22:57 - Tiffany
good point travis--they way to teach them isnt to block it...its to teach them to act
responsiblity and wisely
22:57 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
many school districts filter
22:59 - pam marchewka-cornwell
do our students really understand their digital footprint?
23:01 - knoble
That happened with my little brother...
23:05 - cnelson
thing youth find more connections online than in real life
23:07 - jllarsen
filters don't get misinformation.
23:13 - Brooke
no - i don't think they do - we need to teach them
23:13 - Allyn
how many of you can change the ribbon on a typewriter
23:14 - Martha Lackey
Martha Lackey also loves the last paragraph
23:15 - Jen
many know how to get around the filter
23:21 - Brooke
what's a typewriter?
23:25 - cathy ikeda
home is not filtered, so are the parents here too?
23:25 - KB
23:25 - becky
23:26 - Brooke
23:28 - tshreve
digital footprint is a tough concept even for teens
23:30 - knoble
We also had filters that filtered really innocuous stuff. It was frustrating when we
tried to do research.
23:31 - cnelson
still looking for the dial on my phone too
23:31 - carole
young people definitely have seen more because of online access
23:34 - Amy Ulen
What's probably worse is that they are creating the harmful/pornographic content by
sending nude photos of themselves to their friends.
23:36 - Brittany
What are you feelings about filters on schools, John?
23:36 - Jeanne
I have a large digital footprint. gave up trying to control it. I show kids in my classes.
23:37 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
nettrekker employs teachers to review sites that are included in searches
23:38 - Michelle
you can block all you want, friends, library, cell phones whith teens it is if there is a
will there is a way
23:43 - patty
i can change a ribbon! I still call the enter key the return key!
23:47 - Travis
Travis: I still remember. Thank God I haven't had to do that since the 70s!
23:48 - Kip Sparkman
unfortunatly they tend to filter out needed info as well. I'm presently blocked from
youtube due to our state educational server
23:57 - knoble
Kip, same here!
23:58 - pam marchewka-cornwell
even some adults don't understand digital footprint- who is to teach the kids
24:03 - knoble
My HS had a problem with Bess.
24:04 - becky
i get youtube in my school
24:05 - Allyn
24:05 - Laura 1
Well, I do think we will continue seeing ways we can link direct/kinesthetic
experiences with on-line experiences. Wii is a great example...first game system I
have ever allowed in my house (kids ages 12 and 15)...definitely gets you moving,
doing real activities...in time I think more digital experiences will complement and
interface with real/direct experiences
24:08 - carinac
@allyn: it's funny- lots of students are afraid of analog technologies but will jump on
digital ones with little fear
24:12 - KB
i understand those types of computers
24:14 - becky
i use it in circle time to reinforce concepts
24:14 - KB
24:15 - Allyn
fights in one school I worked at
24:16 - Brooke
good question pam
24:22 - pam marchewka-cornwell
can you unblock the filters where you teach
24:30 - tshreve
the trouble with filters is they make "blanket" eliminations
24:41 - cnelson
agree nice format
24:43 - Sandra
I think we have to keep reminding students about their digital footprint. Teens will
always think they are not in danger - driving or surfing.
24:43 - Jeanne
My fav chapter is 7 on quality
24:48 - patty
i can't unblock but all the kids know about I like your hair.com
24:48 - Martha Lackey
Martha needs to read this book
24:48 - Brittany
I teach composition I and II in the college level and you'd be surprised how many
students write papers about how things like BESS don't work and how the limitations
their HSs put on the computers are hindering their learning
24:59 - KB
nettrekker is a little different
25:01 - Brittany
It seems like we need to teach students how to act responsibility online rather than
25:03 - casterline
many Euro countries rely on the filters "in the kids"
25:26 - casterline
too bad e-rate funding is tied to filters
25:26 - katherine Heilman
Facebook damaging to teacher's reputation 7 misconceptions. More and more older
friends, parents, 50's 60's joining Facebook. Uncle 83 years old!
25:35 - cnelson
don't look behind the curtian!
25:37 - KB
i guess the filtering would matter what age they are
25:37 - Brooke
caterline - where are you from
25:39 - Tom Riley
I think they plagiarize more than other populations because it is so EASY. Just cut
25:46 - Brook Taylor
wait, so is it a myth that DN's are more endangered? The text there doesn't
suggest so...what did John just say?
25:46 - jackiegerstein
First we need to teach the teachers
25:48 - kas
we need Wrinkle Facebook
25:51 - KB
plagiarisim is much easier to catch, too
25:52 - casterline
25:57 - Jeanne
we just had 60 juniors plagiarize in December
25:58 - Shoe
casterline, say more about European methods of "filtering within." Thanks.
26:00 - Tom Riley
That is true KB
26:01 - Sherry
wrinkle facebook, that's funny
26:09 - pam marchewka-cornwell
were just blocked on sites like hulu - was shocked - I try to work around filters all the
time - there is such great info out there
26:12 - Kari 1
casterline - good point about Europe... they give teens more credit than we do here!
26:19 - patty
i like wrinkle facebook
26:21 - tshreve
do they plagiarize because they are lazy or because we don't teach them about what
26:22 - Milobo
more interesting to me is that students don't see it as wrong to share music
26:23 - Kip Sparkman
my students are surprized i catch pagiarism so fast
26:24 - cnelson
if the assignments are boring - students will create poor work
26:30 - Steve Hargadon
iTunes has really complicated the discussions around copyright!
26:32 - BethU
Their definition of plagarizism and ours might be different.
26:36 - KB
we do need to teach them what is right and what is wrong
26:36 - Jeanne
I think they feel freer to take because they create
26:40 - cnelson
look for ways to post without doing the work
26:40 - Susanne Lercher
it is just too easy to copy and paste from the Internet - just like with cyberbullying,
users think that they are "invisible" and will not be discovered
26:48 - digiduchess 1
part of the problem with copyright is no one is talking about with them.
26:50 - KB
and keep them accountable for it
26:50 - Jeanne
they need to be taught exactly how to paraphrase and cite
26:55 - Laura
KB what is the site or program to catch plagiarism
26:57 - casterline
@shoe-student responsibility and no Internet filters...will look for a link to great
26:59 - Brittany
Digiduchess - completely!
27:01 - jackiegerstein
Maybe we need to teach - both adults and kids - how to effectively use creative
27:03 - Kip Sparkman
their definitition wasn't the same , I had to teach it
27:03 - becky
copy paaste does not equal cheating to kids today
27:06 - digiduchess 1
27:07 - Jeanne
turnitin.com our HS uses
27:08 - tshreve
or do we need to create better assignments, more fit for the digital age, than we
27:12 - cnelson
you can't cut and paste project based assignments
27:13 - becky
27:16 - Tom Riley
Safe Assign is a good program with Blackboard
27:17 - Shoe
27:20 - KB
turnitin is great for catching plagiarism
27:22 - Chelsea P
27:23 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
TurnItIn.com is an online subscription plagiarism service
27:28 - KB
it is like safeassign
27:32 - pam marchewka-cornwell
using turnitin as a trial in my school = going to do research in a few weeks
27:33 - Sandra
Ditto to cnelson's comment.
27:33 - digiduchess 1
we can not just block sites
27:36 - KB
but for other programs than BB
27:37 - Laura 1
I think we have to come up with new terms--plagiarism...don't we want students to
bring together different resources and use these resources to confimr/refute/create
arguments? I totally agree we must guard against blatant "cut and paste" and
calling it mine; Perhaps it has more to do with the kinds of questions/assignments
we give them.
27:38 - ronia
but now copyright in America is life of creator +90 years?!?!
27:41 - Jeanne
new teachers also need help in designing assignments to lower events of plagiarism
27:48 - cnelson
let students create original work they are proud of
27:50 - Tom Riley
Sometimes I just google a suspicious phrase from their paper
27:50 - Brandi 1
I agree with what John says about copyright
27:52 - Susanne Lercher
I am a Library Media Specialist and in my grade 3-5 classes, we do talk about
copyright and plagiarism...you really have to discuss these topics in regards to
research and use of materials from the web
27:56 - KB
the more they work together, the less plagiarism there is
28:00 - jackiegerstein
Copyright systmes needs to be re-conceptualized
28:07 - Brandi 1
there are several artists that promote the use and sharing of their work
28:09 - cnelson
context over content
28:15 - Gina
i don't think we have made the distinction between sharing and copyright
28:15 - Brittany
I have one
28:31 - MM
Great site - Temple University fair use - http://tinyurl.com/cda2vo
28:33 - Kip Sparkman
if you require citations in all projects, and accept no work without the citations, it's
easy to catch
28:43 - Kelly
John, What about Danger Mouse, and the Grey Album?
28:49 - Tess
how does the fair use guideliness for education apply?
28:54 - Brittany
I wonder what your thoughts are, John, about how to get students to experience
remixing in the classroom
28:55 - John Palfrey
say more, Kelly?
28:59 - Jeanne
I did a works cited survey and was able to spot numerous issues
29:12 - digiduchess 1
Tess google it there are many out there
29:19 - digiduchess 1
Library of Congress
29:22 - Kelly
Isn't that the issue you're referencing, with creating new items from existing
29:22 - digiduchess 1
29:26 - knoble
Okay, here we go!
29:29 - knoble
29:33 - Brandi 1
yes remixing is exactly that
29:37 - Roxann
Check out a fair-y use video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo
29:40 - KB
googling parts of papers or suspicious sentences can usually be found easily
29:43 - connie weber
who's read Remix, has that been discussed? sorry I came in late
29:50 - knoble
Creative Commons is AWESOME.
29:57 - joycevalenza
zero licensing just started!
30:00 - Roxann
30:08 - Brandi 1
we aren't just talking about papers, we are talking about vidding and music and
30:09 - Nancy Bergvall
30:26 - Brooke
yes CC is great
30:28 - Bob
Brittany, there's a great tutorial on the Folger Shakespeare Website www.folger.edu
(includes a podcast showing students remixing Shakespeare
30:31 - connie weber
it's about having a participatory culture
30:44 - Milobo
Our music students are learning to remix their own content as a class - such as
creating ringtones this week.
30:52 - connie weber
with rights going to creators, in a hybrid blend
31:00 - Tiffany
31:14 - Kelly
Repeat: Isn't that the issue you're referencing, with creating new items from existing
31:17 - connie weber
current music students seem to be very permissive about their own work
31:25 - digiduchess 1
got to love GaragBand for kids making there own musci
31:27 - digiduchess 1
31:39 - Laura 1
John, please discuss the role of digital platforms with respect to student motivation...
31:47 - Brittany
Thanks! I think that really helps and was a great answer. I think that remixing is
an important experience to get students thinking about how knowledge is created.
32:00 - ronia
but what about people really being able to make a LIVING from books, movies,
32:06 - Milobo
connie weber - agreed - students want to share!
32:06 - sallenharris
I just bokmarked CC. Looks awsome
32:07 - katherine Heilman
Twenty somethings think they are not in danger. It is knowldedge and being smart
about your choices
32:07 - knoble
I've seen this a lot with fanfiction. Generally, fans tend to respect the wishes of
authors who do not want their works to be part of fanfiction.
32:12 - Gina
great point brandi
32:15 - Chris
john - what do you see as a solution to modernising the current copyright laws?
32:22 - knoble
I do know JKR is fine with it.
32:24 - Jenny Bradbury
32:26 - Kelly
Interesting, thank you for the insight, John!
32:29 - becky
i wish this chat window was bigger
32:34 - connie weber
@ronia, the students feel that getting their name out will help them make a living
32:34 - John Palfrey
32:40 - Roxann
For completely copyright free digital photos, check out:
32:57 - kearnsville
I am a special education teacher. Media has really levelled the playing field for my
students. Not only that, because they are typically 'hands on' learners, they really out
perform their peers in this area.
33:03 - joycevalenza
have you seen Temple's fair use code?
33:04 - knoble
Oh, is that a stock photo site, Roxann?
33:10 - harold yoder
33:11 - connie weber
oh my gosh it's going so fast
33:12 - PeggyG
@Becky-you can change your view to wide layout to get a bigger chat window :-)
33:13 - cnelson
33:23 - Nancy Bergvall
what is temple's fairuse code?
33:25 - Rob
@JoyceValenza Yeah, Temple's fair use is good.
33:30 - pam marchewka-cornwell
anyone used glogster.com
33:37 - joycevalenza
33:44 - John Palfrey
I learned multitasking from our students
33:46 - connie weber
we've got forums going on about that on Fireside
33:47 - jllarsen
They said the same thing about Sesame Street.
33:48 - Brittany
I'm sorry, who said that?
33:49 - digiduchess 1
I saw that article
33:49 - kim caise
i love glogster @pam
33:52 - becky
33:55 - Lisa Francine
Love the looks of glogster, but have not used it yet
34:01 - Donna Frank
Are we preparing children for the world they live in or for the world we grew up in?
34:02 - Tiffany
remember that article (grrr)
34:03 - connie weber
Is that person reputable?
34:05 - kim caise
very simple and easy to use
34:05 - maureen
I read that article- did not see the research, if any, behind it.
34:06 - knoble
I will say that I do think I have a shorter attention span than I used to.
34:11 - cnelson
I cannot sit for 80 min blocks either
34:13 - Sandra
Glogster is fun and can be used in so many ways.
34:18 - Brandi 1
I think one of the most valuable experiences can be found in a public historical
34:27 - Michelle
I dont know about social websites, but I gain a lot of information from the net.
34:29 - knoble
But then again, considering the brain's elasticity, maybe we can re-train ourselves to
lengthen said attention span.
34:31 - pam marchewka-cornwell
used glogster on a Twain unit and the American West = was great = coupled it with
34:32 - Tiffany
didnt they say the same type things about the chalkboard?
34:35 - jllarsen
A book was published on how Sesame Street and other fast cut tv was wiring young
brains in different ways...but is that a bad thing?
34:35 - cnelson
we are an instant society
34:35 - connie weber
the neurscientists are getting a lot of good stuff going going now, just don't know
what to make of it
34:40 - maureen
I do wonder if kids multitasking is rewiring their brains- or future brains.
34:53 - Brittany
I think it was in the Atlantic this summer, the article called "Is Google Making Us
Stupid" (or something close to that) -- it's fascinating to think about
34:54 - Kelly
I've seen reports that kids today will learn more information in years, than previouse
generations learned in their entire lives!
34:59 - Michelle
we are an instant society. I love google.
35:01 - connie weber
@mauree, I think rewiring is always going on
35:08 - Brandi 1
Google is open-ended
35:13 - Lisa Francine
I wonder if all this multitasking is rewiring my almost 45 year old brain!
35:13 - Nancy Bergvall
looks like the email we got from Kirk today
35:14 - jackiegerstein
Much rather kids on the computer than sitting in front of the TV for 5 hours
-computers are more interactive
35:23 - connie weber
@maureen, and how do we know how it affects kids developmentally
35:24 - maureen
@connie- more change in the last 10 years than I have seen in my long life
35:31 - Steve Hargadon
I always click on Wikipedia as well.
35:35 - Jeanne
their deep reading and writing skills are suffering
35:36 - knoble
Maureen, another question to consider is if this is a bad thing.
35:37 - Brittany
35:37 - knoble
I read that too, Brittany!
35:38 - cnelson
Wonder if the farmers thought the same about the industrialists in the 1900s - darn
35:39 - tshreve
Brittany- good article in the Atlantic - you can get it online at atlantic.com
35:43 - connie weber
@maureen, agreed, fast change
35:44 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
it is amazing to hear how students are using technology such as Google in the
classroom for positive learning experiences
35:46 - knoble
Wikipedia is a good starting point for research, though.
35:49 - carinac
this is entirely true from what i've seen in college research- the google as first point
of service-- then wikipedia
35:49 - becky
the problem with digital age is kids want everyhting now now now
35:51 - becky
35:52 - knoble
As long as it is well-cited, I think.
35:54 - Jeanne
The example in Chap 7 about wikipedia is something I have taught at my HS
36:01 - Tiffany
haha...love seeing @maureen and @connie using twitter format
36:02 - knoble
But I use EBSCO most of the time.
36:03 - becky
and they cannot research the old fashioned way if they had to
36:04 - carinac
let's hope they don't STOP there..!
36:06 - Brittany
I had students read the Atlantic article and the students really liked it, though
strugled getting through it ;)
36:19 - digiduchess 1
how about cross referencing
36:20 - pam marchewka-cornwell
the assignment is on my teacher page - you can reach it through aldenschools.org --
it's under my long last name
36:23 - Travis
Travis: I love Wikipedia and tell the students to check it out first to get an overview
of a topic before they begin their research.
36:26 - digiduchess 1
36:27 - stephen c
Multi-tasking is a myth. The brain can shift quicly from task to task but the brain only
does one thing at a time.
36:32 - Michelle
don't need to research the old fashioned way.
36:33 - Camille
We should use 30 Rock to teach about Wikipedia.
36:37 - maureen
@connie- I don't know. And is it a good/bad thing? We'll see. Brain Rules says we
cannot really multi task- I wonder if we will be more effective at doing this later
36:38 - Brittany
Nearly every scholar I know admits to wikipedia - but as John is saying, there are
many sources and we must read beyond
36:42 - Kelly
Wikipedia is just a starting point, and the creator says that often. :)
36:45 - Jeanne
I show them to look at the references on wikipedia articles
36:51 - EliseT
Thank you Stephen.
36:52 - cnelson
google picture postcards in the 1930s - it also changed communication patterns
36:54 - Martha Lackey
Martha agrees with Michelle...we want it RIGHT now
36:55 - jllarsen
we need to teach kids to filter/be skeptical about all internet resources...especially in
the sciences where the internet gives free reign to pseudoscience.
36:56 - Chelsea P
Jeanne, i was just about to say that
36:57 - Jeanne
Jimmy Wales has said himself not to use Wikipedia as an academic source
36:58 - digiduchess 1
good idea jeanna
36:59 - carinac
here it is: the difference and tie-in between TECH literacy and INFO literacy!
37:01 - Laura 1
As a literacy teacher--feel the goal is authentic and transactional
communcation...social networking provides a platform for dialog--as long as there is
trust between users and clear expectations.
37:01 - Brittany
Exactly, it's a starting point - just like a print-based encyclopedia
37:03 - connie weber
@@stephen, aren't we multitasking now, dividing our brains to follow everything?
37:04 - Jeanne
37:05 - becky
anyone in here from southern for class
37:08 - casterline
Don Tapscott's book Grown Up Digital also mentions many of those quotes about
dumbest generation p. 3-7
37:19 - Brittany
I have students in spring semester who are first-year students who still aren't sure
where the library is
37:23 - Brittany
on campus that is
37:24 - joycevalenza
you don't get it. the library has no walls
37:24 - becky
37:31 - Rob
"cringe" that kids only go to a libray on a field trip!
37:32 - joycevalenza
library resources are wall-free!
37:32 - Chelsea P
wow, thats bad
37:38 - maureen
@ connie- I don't listen well when I am typing and reading the chat
37:42 - jackiegerstein
Socrates didn't believe in the "written word"! For Socrates speech should
understand the nature of the soul in order to persuade it to justice. According to
Socrates the written word is incapable of this task.
37:43 - knoble
Our library is pretty out in the open.
37:46 - joycevalenza
the databases students take for granted are library resources
37:47 - MaryBeth Applegate
I found that the Wikipedia aticle on our own town had many inaccuracies so I had
the kids research it and actually make the corrections to the site! They learned a lot
about critical thinking from this.
37:48 - cnelson
my 12 year old is smarter than when I was 12
37:50 - Kelly
I would LOVE to see Harvard's library.
37:50 - knoble
It's actually right across from my dorm.
37:58 - Nina
no longer called library.."media center"
37:59 - Brittany
Great point, Jackie!
38:05 - Tiffany
doesnt it depend on how you define "intelligent" if they are more or less.../
38:07 - Tiffany
38:07 - joycevalenza
libraries provide the ebooks students use too
38:12 - joycevalenza
38:15 - connie weber
@cnelson, but does your child know nature? :-)
38:15 - pam marchewka-cornwell
wow! our kids love our library -we actually have advid readers right now and I can
read and discuss books with a lot of different types of students - makes me feel good
as an English teacher
38:15 - joycevalenza
38:18 - cnelson
and we have contests about being smarter than a 5th grader!
38:20 - harold yoder
it was called media center in 1988
38:24 - Chelsea P
Yes maureen, this is really distracting... for a first time elluminate user, reading the
chat, looking at the slid, and listening to the speaker... no wonder why we have a
short attention span
38:25 - ronia
brains are always being re-wired
38:31 - Laura 1
Agree with John that Libraries are changing their look with respect to tools used, but
not their purpose of providing information
38:37 - becky
there may be a time when maybe power out or something they should learn the
original way and digital way
38:41 - digiduchess 1
sorry there is just something about falling in love with a good book
38:42 - casterline
read iBrain...also talks about digital overload
38:43 - tshreve
@cneslson - your 12year old is more knowledgeable that you - not smarter
38:46 - Kari 1
Thanks for giving us these great book titles... I want to read them at the end of this
38:52 - Sharon Carter
Our Georgia performance standards require our students to read 25 books a year -
yep! it's surprising to see them "rediscover" books
39:02 - Brandi 1
I am guilty of what John is talking about. However, I really loved spending time in
the library when I was a kid. It just became hard to learn later on in life that some of
the books I read were so incorrectly biased and outdated...this is what turned me off
and turned me on to computers.
39:03 - Jeanne
and librarians provide instruction on how to use those databases which are not user
friendly sometimes but designed for academic research
39:04 - kas
our librarian continues to buy hard copies of the brand new, already outdated
39:10 - knoble
Chelsea - to help out with that, I just try to filter as much as possible - like waiting to
see if someone is responding to what I say.
39:10 - connie weber
steve, we need a way to slow the written conversation down
39:15 - casterline
twitter is much faster for news
39:16 - Kip Sparkman
according to a neuro surgeona collegue of mine was talking to last week, they are
finding that children being born into this computer age are not getting as fast of
growth in the frontal lobes. this causes the transfer from left to right brain to be more
difficult. it explains observations we have been seeing with our eighth graders that
are tech savy but have extreme difficulty in creative or critical thinking in which the
answers are not wrote
39:17 - knoble
That way, I can stay at least somewhat focused.
39:20 - Susanne Lercher
librarians are now involved with helping users make sense of all the online resources
and to help them evaluate the info sources they use
39:20 - tshreve
we just talked in class about how little newspaper reading there is anymore
39:20 - Tiffany
sharon-does it have to be a tactile book?
39:22 - connie weber
or display it differently,
39:24 - Brooke
any way to make this window wider??
39:26 - Jeannine 1
we check our readers!
39:27 - Michelle
I love books too. But when I need research or info there is no better place than the
web for me. Better, faster and more convenient.
39:39 - Jeannine 1
We are really reading:0
39:40 - maureen
@ Chelsea- I've used elluminate a lot and when the chat is moving so fast- it is hard
to keep up- even if I wasn't trying to read the slide and listen as well
39:40 - tshreve
how little tv news viewing there is by students
39:41 - Sharon Carter
Does not specify
39:42 - cnelson
@tshreve we have great conversations that are beyond just facts - strong
awareness of the world
39:44 - katherine Heilman
How reliable are any news networks?
39:45 - Nina
many kids in my area go to book stores in the place of libraries.. They sit and read
39:48 - connie weber
steve, slower, bigger, with more display of conversation
39:48 - Nancy Bergvall
should librarians only purchase fiction
39:49 - pam marchewka-cornwell
Funny we just had a conversation on twitter about how we're not reading the paper
but on twitter and other networks - paper is on the table
40:01 - becky
@brooke go to view and change layout option
40:02 - connie weber
steve, it could all be "forumized" afterwards
40:05 - Chelsea P
Good point.. i had to close my eyes
40:08 - MaryBeth Applegate
Why do you think the newspapers are going bankrupt?
40:08 - digiduchess 1
I agree Michelle
40:11 - Susanne Lercher
the web is fine but we need educators and librarians to help users to search more
efficiently and effectively
40:17 - Tiffany
sharon-would be interesting to know how the kid consume the content...book book
or digital method
40:20 - Laura 1
I do agree that books still need to bet in people's hands--but "books" will also take on
other forms...take 'kindle'...seems like this will continue to evolve. Still I love the feel
of a real book in my hand...timeless books
40:27 - cnelson
would you warm up with a kindle?
40:27 - Brittany
The internet makes research more up to date - while there needs to be some
rhetorical thoughts behind the use of internet sources, by removing the publishing
process more "current" research is made available
40:29 - Bob
Hey, Chris. Yes, it's me.
40:30 - Brandi 1
libraries may stay current; however the internet is so instant. Through
random-clicking you can learn so much from various sources on a topic.
40:31 - katherine Heilman
I agree context is much more important, even at the younger years
40:32 - knoble
I love books so much.
40:45 - knoble
I grew up reading. I can't imagine reading any other way.
40:46 - digiduchess 1
good point cnelson
40:47 - jackiegerstein
Kids develop their own personal learning networks
40:59 - becky
libraries are evolving
41:07 - kas
I love the stories; the format from which I read them doesn't matter
41:10 - knoble
They certainly are, Becky.
41:12 - Jeanne
and librarians have evolved
41:13 - Allison Carpenter
http://www.askherepa.org/ 24/7 real live librarian to chat with and assist
anyone in their quest for information.
41:14 - maureen
I can't imagine giving up books, but I bet folks couldn't imagine giving up the horse
for transportation either
41:16 - Jen
@knoble-i agee. i love books!
41:17 - Gina
John, I am concerned about adult students who are falling way behind in technology
know how. There is so much to teach them. What would you see as being the most
important areas I should be teaching them?
41:20 - cnelson
@knoble I loved my sony walkman too
41:23 - katherine Heilman
NEA just put out an article how multitasking is not efficient, and we need to consider
the task and expectations
41:24 - Tiffany
I love a book :)
41:26 - Sharon Carter
tactile book was my interpretation - i required them all to check out 1 book - they
loved it, was novel for many (also many of my students don't have acess to digital
41:30 - Jeanne
text a librarian
41:31 - Nancy Bergvall
some nonfiction is out of date the minute it is published
41:33 - casterline
Blooms is Back!
41:42 - Kip Sparkman
i'm having success in geting my students to watch news on-line with various sources
and question why the same stories are reported differently
41:43 - digiduchess 1
okay cnelson time for an iPod
41:47 - knoble
Cnelson: I'm actually more of an iPod person.
41:51 - cnelson
41:55 - Brook Taylor
some nonfiction has a depth of detail and opinion that is hard to find on the web
42:00 - knoble
My nano has served me faithfully for, like, three years.
42:03 - Laura 1
I love learning new digital from my kids...like mp3 player...
42:05 - BethU
who remembers Googlezon and it's take on what will happen with the news
42:09 - pam marchewka-cornwell
there is definately a need for both the book and then the technology - mixing the two
is fun - all of my book reports have take on a form of a message board instead of
42:11 - connie weber
metacomment: the conversation is like a garden growing in fast-forward
42:12 - becky
i love new technology too
42:13 - jackiegerstein
Second life has a huge library presence - very innovative things going on
42:15 - Susanne Lercher
librarians are evolving - I've been a LMS for ten years and things have certainly
changed re my priorities...I spend more time discussing effective information
retrieval than describing types of sources such as almanacs, encyclopedias
42:22 - Kelly
What about the Federal Register? Is it online?
42:23 - becky
42:26 - becky
42:31 - tshreve
the ipod touch seemed to be the default gift over the holidays - soo many students
now have them
42:32 - katherine Heilman
I struggle with this format, soo much info to process. I need to focus on speaker
now. Can't do both. We would reprimand a student, not being focused!
42:36 - knoble
@becky - I chuckled. :D
42:38 - Susanne Lercher
fed reg is online
42:41 - Sandra
Amen to Susanne
42:42 - becky
not thatr way
42:43 - BethU
42:48 - digiduchess 1
42:49 - becky
dirty minded people
42:52 - casterline
Howard Gardner talks about the 5 minds of the future and 1 is disciplined
thinking...thinking like a lawyer
42:53 - becky
42:56 - ronia
QUESTION? how will history be taught in the future? With continually updating data,
will we ever really have a snapshot of an event circa 2012? or by 2015 will it have
been wikied, blogged, and updated until there is no actual sense of what 2012 really
43:02 - Susanne Lercher
thank you sandra but I am modest
43:06 - knoble
@tshreve: I was going to get an iPod touch. And then my nano started working
43:10 - jllarsen
As an environmental educator, I think it'simportant to include in the "deep dive" to
open the door and go outside...it's one thing to read about environmental issues on
line and another to experience it. Nabhan in his book on the geography of childhood
points out that Native American kids know more about endangered species in far
away lands (via internet) than they do the plants and animals right outside their door.
43:16 - maureen
What ever would we do without librarians?
43:25 - patty
are there any virtual worlds that allow kids and adults second life has a teen version
but it's not for adults. I want to build a virtual classroom
43:37 - mrsdurff
the crux of the matter - the whole enchilada - or however you want to say it
43:42 - connie weber
@jllarson, let's talk more about nature education
43:43 - maureen
@ patty yes- there are lots of them
43:46 - Sharon Carter
jllarsen you are exactly right
43:49 - Nancy Bergvall
i'm having a hard time focusing on both formats. Is it becaue i am a DSL?
43:52 - Susanne Lercher
I wish that many school districts could see your comment Maureen, thanks for the
43:57 - knoble
44:00 - Jeanne
Patty teen SL you have to get approval to go in as an adult with a class
44:01 - Brooke
44:07 - Mary Del Bianco
has any one tried google lively?
44:07 - Brittany
No, Nancy. I'm a digital native and it's difficult
44:12 - jackiegerstein
Things evolve - film projects and overhead projectors in classroom was looked down
upon at one point - I don't understand the resistance to evolving teaching/learning
44:13 - Chelsea P
44:14 - patty
44:16 - Brittany
200+ people chatting is difficult
44:20 - casterline
overload can really cause a digital depression
44:21 - Nancy Bergvall
Thanks for your comment
44:24 - PaulFromKenosha
Sorry, I was late, but what book are we talking about? TIA
44:25 - Laura 1
I think what John is saying right now is evidence that instructors must also "google"
topics/see what's out there...truly know what we're trying to teach--so that we can
provide a structure/graphic organizer/blank outline ... for students to understand the
scope/sequence of their research topic. Information explosion is real...won't go
away...if we accept it, then we'll learn to navigate it.
44:39 - Jeanne
Patty and those zones are locked down. only for that particular class.
44:39 - digiduchess 1
are they real or is it just different
44:42 - knoble
Haha, I would disagree with that. I was anti-social even before I had a computer.
44:43 - patty
i'm so visual icould follow this better if i could see john
44:45 - cnelson
balance is everything in life
44:49 - katherine Heilman
New diagnosis exists called Nature Deficit due to all the techonology
44:49 - jllarsen
Best advice I ever got: open the door, let them out from Freeman Dyson
44:51 - Jeanne
most of them.
45:01 - maureen
@Susanne- I love my school librarian, my town librarian, and now I get online
librarians- joycevalenza et al ...
45:11 - Tom Riley
Students are more likely to be blunt and demanding to teachers in an online
environment as opposed to a seated environment.
45:14 - tshreve
bullying - we just had a student suspended for online bullying
45:17 - Susanne Lercher
bullies succeed if they get responses from their victims....whether in person or online
45:17 - becky
it does make people more social but less social in person
45:20 - Nancy Bergvall
long live Joyce V!
45:20 - connie weber
@katherine, I don't know about "due to" but associated with, yes: nature deficit
45:26 - Kelly
Isn't the digital world eroding social skills for younger people?
45:31 - becky
45:32 - Steve Hargadon
45:37 - Michelle
45:40 - maureen
45:43 - Laura 1
what is disinhibition?
45:44 - connie weber
45:44 - Lynn
Kelly, I agree with your comment.
45:45 - kas
we need to teach etiquette for the new tools and culture
45:46 - pam marchewka-cornwell
@amy Ulen - sure http://www.aldenschools.org/webpages/PMarchewka-Corn/ let
me know if this works
45:46 - harold yoder
45:47 - cnelson
24 hour rule - never reply until the next day!
45:57 - knoble
I'm not sure how I feel about that, Kelly.
46:04 - Chris
46:05 - katherine Heilman
E-mails can misinterpret tone of e-mail
46:05 - maureen
@ Kelly- my MS kids would disagree- they feel more connected- 24/7
46:20 - Tom Riley
Yes Steve - They "tell me" to do something ... and these are often 30-40 yr adults.
46:20 - Lynn
Why is it when teens are together at a table and all have an ipod, zune, or phone
they are using instead of talking!?
46:21 - connie weber
networked students can learn a lot
46:26 - cathy ikeda
Katherine: I agree!
46:29 - Jeanne
the latest study done by UC Berkeley & UCI shows that gaming doesn't erode social
46:30 - digiduchess 1
yes kelly and they want to talk about it
46:30 - Tiffany
@maureen have heard some argue the quality of the content
46:30 - pam marchewka-cornwell
@Amy Ulen - click on the English 11 button
46:31 - Milobo
Kelly, Not eroding, but changing what it means to be social, maybe?
46:34 - jackiegerstein
It is the same phenomina with cars - anonymouse behind the wheel of a care
46:34 - connie weber
in a healthy way, learn a lot
46:35 - knoble
Maybe that's just because I feel like I can speak better on the computer.
46:35 - digiduchess 1
they know is out there
46:42 - Brandi 1
These problems are age old, it is just now more public with less accountability. Is
this something that teachers can help moderate through their curriculum, or is this
46:45 - ronia
What will we have to for the past? WW2 letters home to loved ones VS text
messages, e-mails, and phone calls from Iraq.
46:47 - Chelsea P
Lynn, read Feed
46:51 - katherine Heilman
Parents often misunderstand a simple note, and get quite upset. I make phone
46:51 - becky
i speak better on the computer too
46:53 - stephen c
Glut: Mastering Information Through The Ages by Alex Wright
46:54 - knoble
It's easier for me to type my thoughts than speak them. Because I have time to
process what I want to say.
46:54 - cnelson
still more bully at the bus stop than online
46:56 - Laura 1
Like face-to-face interactions, there are miscommunications. I think it has to do a
great deal with temperament of child...
47:08 - jackiegerstein
Not meaner - just more widerspread given the tools
47:09 - Travis
Travis: Speaking of a global culture, is anyone familiar with iEARN?
47:14 - Luis
I think is more about the difficulty of making a living this days, parents working more
47:16 - becky
47:18 - Tiffany
mean girls have always been mean girls
47:18 - knoble
I remember boys in 6th grade asking to go out with me.
47:23 - maureen
@Tiffany I would agree with you re content- but the kids don't. They enjoy both f2f
and have an active online life
47:23 - Susanne Lercher
people think that they are "invisible" in digital media environments...we need to have
examples to show users that this "invisibility" is a myth and there are ways to find out
who the bully is
47:24 - Brittany
That's a great point! There is no way for students (those being bullied) to escape
47:25 - knoble
I never realized that they were bullying me.
47:28 - Brooke
typing is also misinterpreted vs hearing someone's voice
47:29 - cnelson
eliminate buses and bullying will decrease
47:30 - Steve Hargadon
Digital photography seems have have made it "easier".
47:31 - Lynn
47:32 - Mary Del Bianco
maybe we will end up nicer....
47:34 - Lorraine Leo
I'm wondering how I can teach students in the K-6 environment ways to protect
themselves from cyberbullying
47:35 - kas
Used pbwiki log to track down a bully to match him to his comment. Worked well and
everyone felt comfortable with the result
47:42 - katherine Heilman
Books are always number one. I need to print out info on paper to truly process
detailed info, mark comments, etc
47:45 - Lindsey McCarter
WOW...I AM ALREADY IMPRESSED
47:48 - Lindsey McCarter
47:51 - Jeanne
Letters to a Bullied Girl is a great book about cyberbullying
47:55 - Chelsea P
agreed Brooke, im guilty with that when texting
48:01 - Lisa Francine
Feed by M.T. Anderson
48:01 - Laura 1
I am worried about the amount of sexualized innuendo/images students are putting
48:02 - Nina
And more people see and comment on the bullying
48:05 - Brandi 1
teach them what bullying does to somebody and teach them accountability.
48:11 - becky
i remeber having a beeper and having to find a phone to use and that was intrusive
now there is constant communication no matter where you are or what you are doing
48:12 - Chelsea P
yes lisa francine
48:12 - cnelson
like adult toys?
48:24 - becky
48:43 - Nancy Bergvall
my superintendent might be leary about using web 2.0 because it could lead to
48:52 - Tiffany
wow...I think cnelson actually made the room quiet for 10 seconds
48:59 - Brooke
i check my facebook/email/twitter when i wake up........and usually first when i get
home from school
49:00 - becky
49:00 - Laura 1
what if school's could capture facebook enthusiasm??
49:03 - Chelsea P
49:04 - maureen
@Laura- I would agree with that worry- little girls are sexualizing their photos- not
Shirley Temple- my role model when growing up- and Liz Taylor in National Velvet
49:11 - Brittany
Nancy - I don't think it leads to bullying. Bullying is happening, web 2.0 or not
49:14 - digiduchess 1
I feel that way about my facebook account
49:15 - Brooke
just to "catch up" - make sure i didn't miss anything
49:17 - lizastro
Unfortunately, the digital divide still exists and is getting wider for minority,
49:21 - casterline
49:24 - mrsdurff
disconnected from their friends - we felt the same way, we just connected differently
49:27 - Brandi 1
I think both the bullying AND the sexualized images are something a bit deeper that
these kids are going through. Like we talked about earlier. You can put a lot out
on the internet and not be truly accountable for it.
49:30 - Gina
Wikis in the schools can act like a social network
49:30 - John Palfrey
nice, casterline! yes, that's it!
49:32 - becky
its addicting after awhile-myspace, fasccebook
49:36 - Susanne Lercher
Lorraine, you have to get the students aware that they should seek an adult
immediately if bullied or harrassed instead of responding back to the bully
online....teachers and parents must reinforce this to students....because anyone who
responds negatively to a bully online can be construed as a cyberbully themselves
49:38 - becky
u find yourself addicted
49:47 - Gina
49:49 - Roxann
Can John repeat that last resource?
49:50 - Tiffany
totally agree becky
49:53 - Brandi 1
its almost like sarcasm in everyday conversation...its safe, but it is borderline
49:59 - Lorraine Leo
@Susanne Lercher thanks
50:00 - Kelly
@Casterline, thanks for the link!
50:03 - connie weber
question, who's on line here, are students here?
50:05 - John Palfrey
Roxann -- see Casterline's post above, the Digital Youth student
50:05 - Chelsea P
50:10 - Tiffany
50:12 - Brooke
50:12 - Peter H.
50:12 - mrsdurff
i'm an invader?
50:12 - Brittany
50:15 - becky
i ahve to check my all the time it started out maybve once a week
50:17 - becky
50:18 - ronia
50:22 - connie weber
I think it's a real good question
50:27 - connie weber
50:30 - Chris
John - what is your suggested solution to updating copyright laws?
50:34 - Susanne Lercher
my pleasure Lorraine - my daughter has been cyberbullied so I can say that I've
been there......done that!
50:35 - maureen
"Creepy treehouse" is what I have heard
50:37 - Brooke
not invaders - just unskilled!!! (some of them)
50:41 - Brittany
Why would we want to be "friends" with our students
50:46 - connie weber
read remix for suggestions for copyright law evolution
50:46 - Brooke
where do I click???? please
50:50 - digiduchess 1
good one chris
50:55 - Brook Taylor
regarding myth 2, was John saying that DN's are not more endangered, or are?
Understand from the text that they need guidance.
50:58 - Laura 1
ah, maureen...I loved Shirely Temple...of course, perhaps she was considered
somewhat sexualized in her day...?
51:06 - Lisa Francine
Digital Citizenship for Teens http://digiteen.ning.com/
51:09 - maureen
@ Laura- naw!
51:10 - Tiffany
brittany-one of my students didnt understand why I wouldnt friend them...privacy talk
51:13 - lizastro
It appears that they have expectations for older teachers, "what do you mean you
51:14 - carinac
john: question: is the scan-and-click browsing affecting students' abilities to read
longer passages carefully? is traditional text-based literacy being affected here?
51:15 - Chelsea P
Even though they are invaders, they can find the skills to evolve, but they still have
an attidue about being an invader
51:20 - connie weber
I was one of the first adults to ask to come into the student facebook world
51:27 - Sharon Carter
No, the natives are very helpful, but don't go to their world with an open mind
51:30 - Tom Riley
John - I've had students want to add me as a friend on Facebook? What does that
say about how they see generational boundaries?
51:39 - connie weber
it was weird then, now it's more normal. things evolve
51:42 - jackiegerstein
Kids need to their own space - kids used to do it in the schoolyards - now it is online
51:45 - tshreve
students are, as a whole, very knowledgeable in some areas, yet very weak in
others. My students have no knowledge of rss feeds, for instance.
51:49 - connie weber
yes, let young people be your guide
51:50 - Brooke
i'm a native and everyone at school thinks i'm "amazing" because I just know the
right places to click........
51:53 - mrsdurff
my learners invite me in
51:57 - becky
i have taught many natives around the compyuter
52:07 - Laura 1
Gina, I am constantly setting up wikis...now you can set them up for students who
don't have e-mails.
52:09 - Kelly
Reciprocal learning is a great idea, John. :)
52:12 - Brittany
Tiffany - I think that students don't understand that always. I have colleagues who
are "friends" on facebook with their students and then have very personal accounts -
If I were to friend a students I would have to have a professional profile (though I'm
25 and my students are 1st year college students).
52:15 - Jeanne
I showed some juniors SL the other day and none of them knew what it was
52:18 - mrsdurff
they don't view me as an invader
52:21 - Susanne Lercher
I think that all adults should become aware of social networks and teachers should
become familiar with Facebook/MySpace and the like
52:22 - ronia
oops, slip: QUESTION: Are we creating no permanence? case in point, letters from
WW2 vs phone calls from Iraq. or Star Wars, the version we (40+ saw and
remember is different then the version currently available
52:28 - connie weber
yes, ask them to show us
52:36 - mrsdurff
juniors in highschool?
52:39 - Gina
Laura, yes I use pbwiki
52:43 - Jeanne
52:47 - Lorraine Leo
Are there international standards for social networks (age requirements) or are they
controlled by each country?
52:54 - molly
AS AN ART TEACHER THE FILTERS AND LIMITS PLACED ON THE INTERNET
REALLY LIMITS THE RESOURCES THAT I CAN USE FOR MY STUDENTS.
THERE IS MORE ART BLOCK THAN NOT SO IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
VIEW WORKS OF ART ONLINE.
52:56 - Laura
So if we are to change our way of teaching then schools have to have the
infrastructure for us to work with technology, which we don't have
52:58 - Jeanne
I took them to a virtual library on infoisland
53:01 - Laura 1
John...What is the best first step for a school to take to equalize the digital
platform--for teachers at different comfort levels, as well as for students?
53:07 - digiduchess 1
53:08 - mrsdurff
wow - my 7th graders know what SL is
53:11 - Kelly
Many areas are in a state of flux due to the digital age advent: business, media and
53:19 - connie weber
Steve, could you imagine a forum like this? whew
53:26 - katherine Heilman
@ connie, yes I agree with you, tough to type and form a clear thought and listen.
53:27 - ronia
laura: amen, we have schools that do not allow us to teach in a digital way
53:31 - Tiffany
brittany-exactly--all for collaborating, but when and where Im confortable and feel its
53:31 - Gina
Molly, I agree
53:37 - casterline
53:42 - Travis
Travis: I do have some students who are my "friend" on Facebook, but I limit
current students - I am only "friends" to students whose parents I know really well
socially outside of school and students who attend the same church as I do.
53:43 - Kari 1
Do you think kids should be allowed access to technology during the school day
(i-Pod, cell phone) or do you think it is too distracting?
53:55 - becky
53:55 - knoble
All right, it let me back on again.
54:03 - Chris
love it. It's exactly what I have believed would be a decent solution to the copyright
54:06 - Sharon Carter
way too distracting
54:07 - knoble
I hope it doesn't do it again. D:
54:09 - Sherry
54:10 - Gina
I am interested in trying to engage sts in the arts with technology
54:14 - digiduchess 1
that is my role too Travis
54:21 - Kip Sparkman
I had a student start a myspace for me last year and I get more information about
them personally and what is going on that it is unbeleivable, i'm 55 and considered a
cool teacher, there is a line that a teacher has to be careful not to cross, but the kids
are much more willing to express their ideas and question mine in that environment
and later we seem to develop a more trusting classroom relationship. because I
teach social studies, disscussion is an important part of the class and kids need to
learn by model and involvement how to express and respect the expressions of
54:24 - Judy Pederson
Lots of research going on right now about how to use cell phones in classroom.
54:24 - pam marchewka-cornwell
@Amy Ulen - let me know what you think - email me from the homepage I am
intersted in feedback
54:25 - kas
I agree that young adults need their own space to be themselves. The teaching
comes before they enter these places as we can't always be watching. I was serious
about Wrinkle Facebook as people my age want the same benefits as facebook but
don't want to be "friends" with our students or our own children. We have different
54:29 - ronia
distraction, what about google sms, or even smart phones with full Internet acess
54:29 - connie weber
there is a new literacy
54:30 - Nancy Bergvall
i would like to see students bring their phones to school
54:31 - maureen
I have a ning for my gr 7-9... but the kids really connect on fb. They are just learning
how to use a social network for educational purposes. I kind of like to keep my
54:36 - connie weber
people learn to think in links
54:38 - digiduchess 1
why not use ipods and cellphone for school
54:41 - mrsdurff
why can't literacy evolve?
54:45 - digiduchess 1
become the distraction
54:46 - jackiegerstein
I have thought a lot of this question - I have always skimmed newspapers like I skim
54:47 - connie weber
new reading technologies can really help students
54:48 - Kelly
54:54 - Judy Pederson
I use cell phone tech in my classroom
55:04 - Sharon Carter
we use the stopwatch on our cell phones in science labs
55:06 - knoble
Pfft, if the Twilight phenomenon is any indication, of course it won't stop them from
reading long format.
55:07 - Laura
I pods don't let me tech!!!!!!
55:08 - mrsdurff
and why must text based be valued above all?
55:08 - Jen
i notice students write the way they text
55:09 - cnelson
The why are there so many people at barnes and noble every weekend?
55:13 - tshreve
we have two teachers with a grant to use ipods in the classroom - so far so good
55:19 - Brandi 1
What is digital island?
55:20 - Laura 1
I really like cross generational aspect of facebook...
55:21 - Emily
John, what do you think about recent news reports that smart phones are being
introduced into classrooms to take advantage on companies' parts of billion dollar
55:23 - Brittany
MRSDURFF: I think literacy has and is evolving.
55:25 - knoble
@ cnelson: GREAT store.
55:25 - Sherry
55:29 - Kelly
Laura, Alaska Natives here are using iPods to learn their traditional languages.
55:32 - molly
IN THE ART ROOM IPODS ARE GREAT AFTER INSTRUCTION BUT
ABSOLUTELY NO CELL PHONES, THEY TEXT AT VERY DISRESPECTFUL
55:32 - Nancy Bergvall
my son got hooked on warcraft
55:35 - cnelson
harry potter was over 10000 pages!
55:37 - jackiegerstein
The use of blogs have actually increased my students' writing- both pleasure and
55:37 - Tiffany
thats a great point, john
55:37 - Laura 1
Also, Goodreads.com is a great site and could encourage reading/writing/digital
55:50 - ColetteC
Newspaper reporter that her editor told her to make her articles shorter and add
more bullet points b/c we skim better than we used to
55:51 - Emily
... can students benefit from use of smart phones in classrooms as well?
55:52 - mrsdurff
@Brittany how do you see literacy evolving? to ?
55:54 - Tiffany
they HAVE attention to things they want to pay attention to
55:55 - BethU
In an confernce recently heard about a student that turned in a college paper in text
and had trouble writing it in standard English when he was asked to.
55:57 - cnelson
think many children read more than we give them credit
56:00 - carinac
@john- thank you for the response :)
56:01 - maureen
@jackiegerstein- I skim way more now than I ever did before, whether this is lack of
time, too much info to look at , I'm getting better at getting the gist by skimming or ??
I don't know
56:01 - Roxann
It's unfortunate that people are equating short attention span with ADD. The lines are
becoming too blurred and negating a real disability that many people really do
56:06 - Gina
Susanne, I agree. It brings them into contact with what their sts are into
56:10 - Travis
Travis: I battle cell phones and texting practically everyday. Our policy is that the
teacher confiscates the phone, it turned in to the principal and is returned after 48
hours only if a parent comes in to pick it up. Too bad if they get caught on
Thursdays or Fridays.
56:22 - Brandi 1
What is digital island?
56:22 - John Palfrey
thanks, Chris! it's in Promises to Keep by Terry Fisher
56:38 - knoble
I really don't think that technology like that should be used in the classroom.
56:40 - pam marchewka-cornwell
we really need ideas on how to manage all the learning networks - NING, Twitter,
wiki ect. can get overwhelming - how would we do this
56:40 - jackiegerstein
See my 4th and 5th grade students' Shelfari's - they are still reading!
56:53 - knoble
Shoot, that came out wrong.
56:56 - cnelson
enjoyed that chapter
56:59 - Brittany
@MRSDURFF: many professional organizations are speaking/publishing about how
we, as teachers, need to prepare our students to interact in digital spaces because
they are important (I'm having problems thinking and writing and listening - ha)
57:01 - mrsdurff
indeed! cellphones & iPods are verboten at ours
57:05 - knoble
I mean, not personal devices.
57:05 - Sharon Carter
we also use the cameras on phones to record observations during science expts fun
57:08 - Brooke
phew knoble - i was worried!
57:11 - connie weber
there was a great discussion about this on the Britannica blog--steve, you were part
57:13 - Roxann
I cringe when I see schools with "no cell phone" policies...handhelds are AMAZING
tools, not toys. We need to teach students that they can be tools.
57:16 - Laura 1
ah, oh...what is SL??
57:18 - cnelson
hotspots for all my friends!
57:20 - knoble
Oh, heavens no, Brooke.
57:21 - digiduchess 1
I have had the same experience with blogs jackie
57:28 - Brandi 1
What is Digital Island?
57:29 - knoble
Cellphones were essential when my school had a gas leak.
57:33 - ColetteC
teachers need to change their teaching practice to incorporate these devices
57:34 - knoble
We had to get in touch with our parents.
57:37 - Brittany
But there are so many ways to use the technology the students are brining to class
without making it a distraction
57:45 - knoble
Its just...I think there should be obvious limits.
57:46 - Kelly
And for school safety issues as well, @Knoble.
57:53 - Lindsey McCarter
Yes, Yes, Yes
57:54 - knoble
57:56 - mrsdurff
@Brittany I wonder/question myself often whether I am doing just that
57:57 - ronia
digital divide. in classrooms not all students have it and schools can't afford it
57:57 - Tiffany
58:00 - digiduchess 1
amen Roxann- I am sorry I don't have more
58:01 - Tiffany
teach the limits...
58:02 - cathy ikeda
Thank you John - we need to go back to our pedagogical goals!
58:02 - Nancy Bergvall
good point, John
58:05 - Martha Lackey
I love the way he keeps bringing up the question...what are our pedagoloy goals
58:11 - cnelson
NYTimes survey - people would give up almost everything before putting down their
58:12 - Lindsey McCarter
Planning goals....What do we want them to learn? How we will know they have
58:12 - Laura 1
pbwiki has really been great....
58:12 - patty
pedagogical goals? to pass the test.. you know : No Child left untested!
58:16 - Laura
KellyBut here in PR we dont have an equipped classroom students bring there Ipods
and tune me out when Im teaching
58:20 - Travis
Travis: I recently attended a workshop for teachers where the presentor asked
teachers to find information on the Internet in 5 minutes. They could call a friend, or
use the Internet on their telephone. There are ways to incorporate this in the
58:22 - bran
incorporating technology is my professional goal for this year
58:22 - Kelly
Tech should be adapted to strenghthen basic teaching. :)
58:23 - becky
58:25 - knoble
But The other side of it is that it leads to things like texting and not paying attention.
58:25 - Meg GSU
Agreed Ronia. What about urban/high poverty schools?
58:31 - Rob
But, how do you define a "good" socratic teacher :-)
58:32 - Susanne Lercher
For those students who are not as literate as others, digital audio books like
playaways are one way to attract those who do not have the attention spans to read
long passages of text. Books on CD or tape or playaways are probably great for
58:35 - Brittany
@MRSDURFF: I think that's good though - questioning our role is important
58:37 - cnelson
How would I take this webinar if I did not have my laptop?
58:38 - maureen
I think we have to think about distractions of tech should be dealt with like any other
58:44 - Laura 1
Thank you, John. There is a time and a place--for technology, face-to-fact, books in
your hand, or ipod. Eclectic.
58:47 - Michelle
What is the earliest age you feel is appropriate to begin using the computer?
58:48 - knoble
It's funny. I got nearly all As and one B while using my laptop in the classroom.
58:48 - tshreve
John - I agree!
58:49 - Emily
thank you very much for you thoughts
58:52 - pam marchewka-cornwell
Kelly- that sums it up
58:53 - cnelson
Students should seek information anytime!
59:00 - jackiegerstein
But is would still use the internet to find argumnets re: the Socratic method for
59:02 - Kelly
Thank you very much, Jenny, Steve and John!
59:04 - Brandi 1
I have a question
59:11 - Lindsey McCarter
Well, if they are doing something else in class...then maybe the teacher is not
engaging them in learning
59:12 - John Palfrey
jackie, sometimes that's true
59:14 - maureen
This wenr way too fast. Have to follow up on the links!
59:16 - John Palfrey
but not always
59:18 - knoble
Thank you all so very much for everything you've done.
59:22 - knoble
I had great fun tonight.
59:24 - John Palfrey
many students find themselves
59:24 - casterline
wow! this hour flew by! Thanks John...lots to think about
59:24 - Steve Hargadon
Many, many thanks to John!
59:25 - cathy ikeda
Thanks Jenny, Steve and John
59:26 - ronia
Also, how often can schools update technolgoy when computers should be updated
every 2-3 years, IPods 2-3 years, how can we afford to teach if each classroom with
30 students has 30 computers, 30 ipods, 30 iphones, and they are replaced every
2-3 years? SHOW ME THE MONEY
59:27 - Milobo
But by whose standards would you disallow it?
59:29 - John Palfrey
distracted by the tech
59:30 - alicebarr
Where will this be archived?
59:31 - tshreve
John - the book was great and I access the wiki periodically.
59:32 - digiduchess 1
it has been an hour
59:32 - Kelly
Thank you to all the participants. ;)
59:37 - Steve Hargadon
Alex is from Boston College.
59:39 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
wow, this was absolutely wonderful. Thank you John, Steve, and Jenny!!!
59:40 - Brooke
i'm on widescreen mode - but if there's any way to widen this text screen for next
time that would be great
59:48 - Jeanne
59:50 - John Palfrey
59:54 - Susanne Lercher
thanks to Classroom 2.0 and PBS - this is my first webinar and it has been a great
59:56 - Milobo
If a teacher can't see a way for tec to enhance, but student can, should tech be
59:57 - jackiegerstein
Can you put the links in the chat - for direct access?
1:00:02 - Brittany
Thanks so much, John! This was great.
1:00:03 - Gina
Judy, can you point me to some of the research?
1:00:07 - John Palfrey
Diana and Alex are amazing -- definitely join Steve for that one
1:00:07 - kim caise
@brooke, if you click on view and then layouts you can unlock and resize the
1:00:07 - John Palfrey
will be much better than mine...
1:00:07 - mrsdurff
this char is too fast
1:00:07 - Jeanne
Thank you John. Excellent presentation.
1:00:08 - connie weber
thank you, keep going Steve and everyone, you're making a difference
1:00:12 - knoble
eeeee shakespeareeeee :D
1:00:13 - becky
1:00:16 - Lisa Francine
Appreciate your sharing tonight John!
1:00:18 - Brooke
ooh darn.....thanks kim! an hour too late haha
1:00:19 - Chris Shamburg
That shakespeare one sounds cool.
1:00:22 - sue
1:00:23 - Ana MarÃ-a
1:00:24 - Tracey
Watch it @knoble....
1:00:32 - Brandi 1
I am interested in using Skype in the classroom. Does anyone have any
suggestions how to ingtegrate this?
1:00:35 - digiduchess 1
thanks john, steve .......
1:00:37 - Lorraine Leo
Thank you John! Very interesting presentation.
1:00:46 - Tiffany
1:00:46 - cathy ikeda
John: thanks for trying to keep up with the backchannel. I know it's very difficult.
1:00:47 - Ana MarÃ-a
1:00:49 - Brittany
@BRANDI: have you considered office hours with students through Skype?
1:00:52 - Steve Hargadon
PLEASE THANK JOHN BY CLAPPING!
1:00:52 - Sara
Thank you, John, and all!
1:00:59 - Jeanne
Steve you are broadcasting from CUE?
1:01:00 - kpartridge
I agree that the chat was way too fast. I even had to block it out with a piece of
paper so I wouldn't keep losing focus.
1:01:05 - kim caise
@brandi check out our show site: http://live.classroom20.com for skype in the
1:01:06 - Juan Ca
1:01:07 - Nancy Bergvall
thanks for providing this experience. i learned a lot
1:01:08 - Travis
Travis: A great experience! Thanks for providing this kind of learning environment
1:01:08 - Nina
how do we access this info after we log off
1:01:08 - Susanne Lercher
thank you john for your presentation
1:01:09 - Martha Lackey
martha loves these webinars!!!!
1:01:10 - pam marchewka-cornwell
John - this was great- it really confirms a lot of conversations we are having at my
1:01:12 - Kari 1
1:01:17 - jllarsen
1:01:19 - Renee
how can we get the transcript of these webinar?
1:01:23 - Brandi 1
Thank you Kim!
1:01:34 - digiduchess 1
ditto on Renee
1:01:39 - kim caise
@nina http://www.futureofeducation.com will have the show's recording
1:01:43 - kim caise
you are wecome brandi
1:01:44 - Lisa Francine
Added PBS widgets to our library wiki
1:01:54 - Shoe
Bravo! Well done, PBS Teachers group!
1:01:56 - Brooke
Thanks John! I can't wait to read the rest of your book
1:01:57 - Milobo
I added to my blog!
1:01:59 - kim caise
seedlings mentioned these activity packs tonight
1:02:09 - Susanne Lercher
will PBS have a booth at next week's Channel 13 conference?
1:02:10 - maria teresa
i loved this webinar and plan to atttend more
1:02:12 - digiduchess 1
1:02:21 - mrsdurff
url for all this?
1:02:26 - Brandi 1
This is my first webinar and I really enjoyed it!!
1:02:28 - Laura
I see science teachers have good ideas on how to use the cell phones
1:02:30 - Brandi 1
Thank you John!
1:02:34 - Nancy Bergvall
keep it free, PBS. Great resource.
1:02:36 - kim caise
you are welcome @digiduchess
1:02:41 - knoble
Mine as well! This was great.
1:02:44 - Tamera
yes. PBS will be at Celebration
1:02:45 - mrsdurff
1:02:46 - Leticia- Tech Savvy Mama
To join PBS Teachers: http://www.pbs.org/teachers/connect/
1:02:48 - Chelsea P
Dr. Johnson... get that response paper up so I can get it done before the weekend
1:02:50 - John Palfrey
Thanks, PBS and everyone who came out tonight
1:02:50 - Susanne Lercher
kudos to steve for classroom 2.0
1:02:53 - Martha Lackey
martha agrees with PBS...free
1:02:58 - mrsdurff
1:02:59 - Susanne Lercher
thanks for the info tamara
1:03:00 - Jeanne
Is PBS at CUE next week?
1:03:16 - Steve Hargadon
1:03:20 - mrsdurff
1:03:22 - BethU
great session than you all for participating and PBS for hosting
1:03:30 - Nancy Bergvall
t-kay o martha see you on first class chat
1:03:33 - Megan Sutton
This has been great - a little overwhelming with the chat and the talk, but I'll work on
absorbing it all.
1:03:48 - carinac
1:03:49 - Lorraine Leo
survey was filled in.
1:04:00 - Laura
I agree with rinia not everyone has digital devices
1:04:01 - Kelly
I did the survey, have a great night, goodbye :)
1:04:03 - knoble
1:04:05 - bran
1:04:05 - Chelsea P
thanks everyone, this was neat
1:04:14 - Steve Hargadon
1:04:14 - jackiegerstein
Great information - love all the the energy from the chat room and the speakers!
1:04:16 - Laura 1
thanks again! great!
1:04:21 - Steve Hargadon
Great work, Jenny!
1:04:25 - Chris
This was my first webinar too - and I am very impressed with the quyality of the
speaker (John) and the moderators! Thank You!
1:04:26 - Susanne Lercher
1:04:27 - Steve Hargadon
Thanks again, John.
1:04:30 - Laura 1
where's the survey?
1:04:34 - kasmith
Nice job Jenny and Steve!
1:04:35 - Steve Hargadon
1:04:37 - John Palfrey
1:04:37 - Brook Taylor
anyone else having trouble closing the elluminate survey window?
1:04:41 - Brandi 1
1:05:12 - Michelle
so, How do I prove I was here?
1:05:13 - kim caise
you won't be able to close the elluminate window unless you are moderator - it will
close when you exit the session
1:05:24 - Brook Taylor
1:05:27 - kim caise
1:05:57 - Steve Hargadon
OK, in five minutes I have to throw everyone out of the room to get the recording to
1:05:58 - Steve Hargadon
1:06:10 - Brittany
I can't get hte survey to submit
1:06:11 - Steve Hargadon
You can file > exit or just close down Elluminate.
1:06:20 - John Palfrey
bye all! thanks again, Jenny and Steve and all participants
1:06:28 - Chris
hehe back to bed for me now! 2.06am
1:06:28 - Steve Hargadon
@brittany: in our window or did you open your own?
1:06:35 - Gina
Do I just quit elluminate?
1:06:36 - Brittany
In your window
1:06:38 - Steve Hargadon
Thanks for being up with us Chris.
1:06:44 - mrsdurff
what was that PBS url?
1:06:51 - Steve Hargadon
@brittany... sorry, I don't know.
1:06:57 - Jenny Bradbury
1:07:03 - Steve Hargadon
Can you try the regular link in your own browser?
1:07:04 - Brittany
Ok - thanks anyway
1:07:08 - Brittany
1:07:16 - Steve Hargadon
1:07:18 - mrsdurff
thanksx - wonderful preso, thank you - & nite
1:07:25 - Gina
Thanks do I just quit elluminate?
1:07:34 - Steve Hargadon
1:07:39 - Gina
1:07:48 - Steve Hargadon
1:07:49 - mariaelena Rodriguez
no questions - thanks much
1:07:57 - Martha Lackey
Thanks Steve for providing this webinar
1:07:57 - Steve Hargadon
In three minutes I'm clearing everyone out!
1:08:07 - prof-ice
I didn't get to listen to the whole webinar, but I was impressed with the part I was
here for. This was my first webinar; I am sure I will participate in more. Thank you!
1:08:10 - Steve Hargadon
My pleasure. And thank to PBS for the real work!
1:08:21 - Travis
Travis: If PBS doesn't do it, who will?????
1:08:45 - Peter H.
John Palfrey just co-authored an article in ASCD's journal Educational Leadership
that came out this week.
1:08:52 - Jenny Bradbury
I'd say that Steve did just as much work as I did. It's a true collaboration, which is
what makes it so much fun!
1:08:57 - Peter H.
1:09:15 - Peter H.
The whole issue is called "Literacy 2.0". Very clever
1:09:15 - Steve Hargadon
OK, one minute to clearing the room!
1:09:24 - Steve Hargadon
don't worry--if you don't leave, I kick you out!
1:09:27 - Diane Smoot
Thank you, PBS and Elluminate.
1:09:50 - katherine Heilman
How do you professional profile?
1:10:16 - jan
Great speaker! I would also like to do this format with a person like David Pogue,
Dan Schmidt, Alan November, Peter Reynolds. Have they ever done anything like
1:10:48 - Steve Hargadon
Jan: send me an email at firstname.lastname@example.org and I'll invite them to my
futureofeducation.com interview series.
1:10:56 - jan
1:11:26 - jan
That would get my whole group to come.
1:12:17 - Steve Hargadon
OK, I'm clearing the room! :)
1:12:29 - Jenny Bradbury
Good night, all!
1:13:06 - Steve Hargadon
John: you have to log yourself out since you're a moderator!
1:13:07 - Steve Hargadon