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					                             Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Management Section
HE Feedback -                                                                                              Scope of the
 Management                                                                           BRE G                  scheme
                              Ease of use                      Aesthetics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Achievability
                                                                                    COMMENTS
                                                                                                                                                                     Technical Content                                              BRE G COMMENTS

                                                                                                         Is there any
                  Did you find the     How could the        How could the                                                   Is the technical
                                                                                                       function area we
Contributor’s        guidance         layout / content      appearance of                                                     content and                                                                                                                       Were any of the credits totally unachievable for the assessed                                                Is there any other issue, specific to the higher education section, that should be
                                                                                                      would need to add /                                    Could the technical content of any credits be improved?
  Details         documents user-      be more user-         the guidance                                                 coverage of credits                                                                                                                                             building?                                                                                     addressed in this section and that we have not addressed?
                                                                                                        alter in the list
                     friendly?            friendly?         be improved?                                                     appropriate?
                                                                                                           provided?
Neal Barnes
University
College                                                                           We will look into
                                                            I know this is
Falmouth                                                                          it, however this
                                                            primarily for use
Director of                                                                       is technical
                                                            of trained
Estates &                                                                         guidance and we
                                                            assessors but
Facilities                                                                        have received
                                                            could some                                Appears
Management                                                                        feedback in the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Man 9 – I agree that some buildings on campus might have restrictions on public access
                                                            pictorial                                 comprehensive,         Technical content                                                                                                                                                                                         →
Tremough,      Yes,                                                               past expressing                                                                                                                                                               OK                                                                                                           imposed through for example, specific access restrictions imposed by licensing
                                                            representation of                         nothing to add at this generally very good.                                                                                                                                                                                      See comment below
Penryn,                                                                           concern                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    arrangements, e.g. Home Office licensing of biological facilities.
                                                            each section                              point.
Cornwall, TR10                                                                    because of cost
                                                            assist in
9EZ                                                                               and ink waste
                                                            promoting the
01326 213701                                                                      when having to
                                                            key points
01326 254120                                                                      print colour
                                                            covered?
Neal.barnes@f                                                                     images.
almouth.ac.uk
4 September

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ←
Clive Wilson                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mandatory levels are the
University of                                                                                                                                                                                                                   same across all non -
Bradford                                                                                                                                                                                                                        domestic BREEAM schemes.
                                     I think the
Director of                                                                                                                                                                                                                     They have been introduced
                                     evidence schedule                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ←
Estates                                                                                                                                               Man 1 item 8 add HEEPI LABS 21 (an to references at the end of the        for the first time this year,
                                     should go under                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Where there is a risk connected to
Richmond                                                                          See comment                                                         section)                                                                  therefore our intention is to
                                     the credits                                                                                                                                                                                                                Man 7 seems unfair as many buildings in HE contain (for sole use)      the activities carried out in the
Road Bradford,                                                                    above re: colour.                                                   To encourage the development/use of the Building User Guide a credit      require for now only very                                                                                                                  See previous – the amount, type and activates carried out in HE cover almost all types
                                     description to       Colour would                                                                                                                                                                                          areas you would not want the community to go as they may be            buildings (either to people,
West Yorks     Yes,                                                                                   No I do not think so    Yes                     should be given to VG as this is an over looked area and would strengthen basic, 'easy' credits to be                                                                                                                of building need, whether that is for research, learning, social (eg. students Union) or
                                     show what it will be help                                                                                                                                                                                                  hazards or activities which are sensitive taking place. This type of   property, information) this credit
01274 233110                                                                      Will look into                                                      the request for one.                                                      achieved. We will consider                                                                                                                 community engagement
                                     looked at.                                                                                                                                                                                                                 building is by its nature excluded from these credits                  will be filtered out from the
01274 235450                                                                      formatting.                                                         Man 9 1c HEEPI                                                            reviewing them next year,
                                     Then the detail can                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               assessment and the weighting of
r.c.wilson@bra                                                                                                                                                                                                                  after feedback from
                                     be crosschecked                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   the remaining credits recalculated.
dford.ac.uk                                                                                                                                                                                                                     assessors; meanwhile we will
4th September                                                                                                                                                                                                                   take a note of your
2008                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suggestion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: references, agreed.


Michael Bienias
University of
Cambridge
Director of
Estate
                                                                                                                                                      Man 6
Management &
                                                                                                                                                      Add researchers and staff (e.g. admin and maintenance) to the list of
Building
                                                                                                                                                      ‘Appropriate Stakeholders (Compliance Notes Table)
Service         Yes (once familiar
                                     N/A                    N/A                                       No                      Yes                     Man 7                                                                     Agreed                                                                                                                                       No
74 Trumpington with the layout)
                                                                                                                                                      Add Health & Safety requirements to the list of reasons why a building
Street,
                                                                                                                                                      cannot be open to the public (Compliance Notes Table)
Cambridge,
CB2 1RW
01223 37806
01223 766486
mb242@admin.
cam.ac.uk
                                     Some more of the
                                     commentary
Sean Woulfe                          ‘bubbles’ would be
                                                                                  We will look into
Kingston                             useful, particularly                                                                                                                                                                                                       • I am unsure as to the achievability of providing, under MAN 4 –      MAN 4 - All technical, i.e. FM, and
                                                                                  adjusting the
University                           explaining the way                                                                                                                                                                                                         Building User Guide - ‘information relevant to the tenant /            non-technical users should be able
                                                                                  formatting.
Design and                           the table under                                                                          • On the list of credits I                                                                                                        occupants and non-technical building manager on the operation          to use it, including students and
Programme                            point 1 of                                                                               am not clear on the                                                                                                               and environmental performance of the building’. Who do you see         staff if the devices specified in the
                                                                                  The manual is
Manager                              ‘compliance                                                                              distinction between                                                                                                               as the customer for this guide? Staff? Students? The idea is a very    building are to be occupant
                                                            The appearance        fully explained in
River House,                         requirements’                                                                            ‘Specific HE criteria                                                                                                             good one but we need to be very clear as to who the guide is           controlled. It often happens that
                                                            is fine. I found it   BREEAM
53-57 High                           translates into a                                                                        or altered requirement                                                                                                            aimed at. Clearly you don’t mean maintenance staff but if I use the    devices such as presence
                                                            clear. The page       training courses,
Street,                              total number of                                                                          to a common credit’                                                                                                               example of a building that is predominantly centrally programmed       detectors or temperature controls
                                                            numbering             so it shouldn't be I’m afraid I couldn’t                               • On MAN 1 Commissioning; there is no mention of high containment
Kingston Upon                        points under point                                                                       and ‘HE specific                                                                                                                  teaching rooms, who would the customer be in this instance?            cannot be overriden because of        MAN 7 Shared Facilities, while a good idea will have many restrictions.
               In general yes.                              needs attention –     a problem for      find the list to which                              laboratories, which have very specific commissioning and validation    Agreed
Thames, KT1                          3.                                                                                       credit’. Surely it’s                                                                                                              • It seems to me that Man 6 Consultation is not written with HE        users ignoring how to do so.          I think that a high proportion of applicants will be looking for an exemption on this one.
                                                            it is allegedly a 5   assessors to       you refer.                                          requirements.
1LQ                                  Also, the final                                                                          either a He specific                                                                                                              customers in mind. Point B under ‘first credit’ for example, talks
                                                            page document         understand the
D 020 8417                           sentence                                                                                 credit, or an altered                                                                                                             about a community still potentially under construction? Also, the      MAN 6 - following feedback, we will
                                                            but there is no       way points are
3618                                 beginning ‘The                                                                           requirement to a                                                                                                                  consultation list under point 2 is extremely prescriptive. How do      review this credit following more
                                                            page 5.               calculated.
F 020 8417                           calculator                                                                               common credit?                                                                                                                    you measure building user productivity in any meaningful way?          closely the standard practice of
                                                                                  However, if you
3144                                 considers….’                                                                             Apologies if I am                                                                                                                 Also, the requirement to consult on good and bad examples of           consultation in HE buildings.
                                                                                  think there is a
s.woulfe@kings                       Under the heading                                                                        missing something.                                                                                                                buildings of the same type is not clear. This is the credit I found
                                                                                  mistake in there,
ton.ac.uk                            ’The Mat 1                                                                                                                                                                                                                 the least clear.                                                       →
                                                                                  please let us
13.09.2008                           calculator’ is                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    MAN 7 - see comments above.
                                                                                  know.
                                     missing a word I
                                     think.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MAN 7 - Agreed, however the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          consultation will need to include
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          representative of local residents,
NEIL
                                                                                                                      MAN 1 – No comment at this time                                                                                     businesses, LA, etc. as per other      MAN 7 – Credit 1.2. The ‘community’ of a “university” is very different from a school
HUMPHREYS
                                                                                                                      MAN 2 – No comment at this time                                                                                     BREEAM schemes.                        community often because of the scale of operations. Communities may often be various
UNIVERSITY
                                                                                                                      MAN 3 – Credit 3d. May wish to add further best practise policies with                                                                                     internal organisations rather than necessarily external.
OF BRIGHTON
                                                                                                                      respect to sound pollution. Contractor will often check and monitor sound                                           MAN 8 - we would accept                Compliance should be applicable if facilities are used to benefit wider community users
DEPUTY
                                                                                                                      levels throughout the project to reduce impact on rest of operational                                               strategies elaborated for a whole      such as businesses and research.
DIRECTOR OF
                                                                                                                      campus.                                                                                                             campus, rather than at the             MAN 8 - Professional involvement is usually at a strategic level where University
ESTATE &
                                                                                                                      MAN 4 – No comment at this time                                              MAN 3 - This credit is a               individual building level, provided    Strategic Development seeks support from external independent advisors. Strategies,
FACILITIES                               Use of coloured
                                                                                                                      MAN 5 – No comment at this time                                              standard credit for all                that they are compliant with our       developed at a high level, are often implemented university wide and would be
MANAGEMENT                               headings/sections
                                                                                          No comment at this          MAN 6 – Credit 2. Whilst DQI has been bespoke for schools, it is only        BREEAM non domestic                    requirements, i.e. they involve an     incorporated into brief/specifications at a very early stage of project. Professional
EXION 27,                                might assist, but              See comment
                                                                                          stage. We haven’t           available in its generic form for other buildings. DQI does not generally    schemes. We will take a note           ALO or other trained officer.          external involvement may not be necessary at a project level if earlier involvement can be
CROWHURST Yes                            generally the     No comment   above re: colour.                       Yes
                                                                                          seen the full scoping       consider ‘Environmental Impact’ as a priority, it merely asks stakeholders, of this and consider inclusion                                                 evidenced at a strategic level.
ROAD,                                    layout is
                                                                                          yet                         in advance, to apportion priorities and thus does not necessarily            across all schemes.                    MAN 9 - Agreed                         MAN 9 – Recognition that some of this information listed may be deemed commercially
BRIGHTON,                                considered user-
                                                                                                                      encourage environmental responsibility. Until such time as DQI has been                                                                                    sensitive.
BN1 8AF                                  friendly.
                                                                                                                      developed for HE sector (presumably in consultation with BRE) it would be MAN 6 - Agreed                            MAN 10 - This credit is not
01273 - 643366
                                                                                                                      preferable to leave DQI out of the criteria/credit system and simply ask for                                        prescriptive, and any feature,         MAN 10 - Significantly, green roofs should, in our view, achieve some credit. The
01273 - 643149
                                                                                                                      evidence of independent consultation methods.                                                                       including green roofs, used as a       incorporation of green roofs for environmental benefit restricts the ability to harvest and
n.humphreys@
                                                                                                                      Might suggest that this is changed to details of independent consultation                                           learning resource would do.            recycle rainwater meaning a “double whammy” of loss of points for recycling water and no credits for green roofs.
brighton.ac.uk
                                                                                                                      agency. This could also be an internal agency within a University’s                                                 However, the green roof issue
9 September
                                                                                                                      corporate services (who would be deemed independent of the respective user/stakeholder group).                      (connected to the rainwater credit)    MAN 11 – No comment at this time.
2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          has been already flagged up, so
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          we will review it. Green Roof should   MAN 12 – No comment at this time.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          also help gaining credits under the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Land use and Ecology section.
Name Ian
Preston           Yes, reasonably. The
Institution       BREEAM 2008
atelier ten ltd   manuals are clearer                                                                                 Man 6 – Consultation
Position          than the                                                                                            Compliance note re: appropriate stakeholders: It is not clear whether the
BREEAM            2006 versions, but                                                                                  note is saying only ex-students are to be consulted.
Assessor          there is still some                                                                                 Representatives of current students should also be consulted, e.g. the         MAN 6 - Agreed - also see
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Man 9 – Publication of building information
Address 19        inconsistency about                                                                                 students’ union of the institution, the union society/societies relevant to    comments above
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Other websites:-
Perseverance      where                                                                                               the function of the building, staff-student committee members, the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 · HEEPI, specifically the Green Gown Awards pages;
Works             information is                                                                                      NUS?                                                                           MAN 7 - We consider typical
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 · The BRE site that will be used for BREEAM Outstanding case
38 Kingsland      provided, e.g.         Highlight key                                                                Man 7 – Shared facilities                                                      shared facilities halls,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 studies;
Road              definitions are        compliance                                                                   The compliance note regarding exempted buildings could be worded               conference facilities, sports
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 · The Association of University Leaders for a Sustainable Future
London            sometimes provided     requirements so                                                              better, e.g. “Buildings that for safety, security or confidentiality reasons   facilities. Retail facilities will
                                                                                             The Scope section                                                                                                                            MAN 9 - Agreed                         (ULSF);
E2 8DD            in the                 they stand out                                                               cannot be opened to the public/community may be exempted from                  not count as such. Security
                                                                        Will look into it.   has not been                                                                                                                                                                        · People & Planet’s Green League;
Telephone         Compliance Notes       from the text.                                                               compliance with this credit.”                                                  towards people, property and
                                                                                             provided.                                                                                                                                    MAN 10 - Agreed                        · Student union websites.
Number 020        table, sometimes in    The target figures                                                           What does the security exemption refer to: security of staff and               information contained in the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Man 10 – Development as a learning resource
7749 5950         the Additional         can be hard to find                                                          students, that of university property, or national security (e.g. nuclear      building, but also security of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Presumably a learning resource appropriate for an HE institution is not
Fax               Information            among the text.                                                              reactors, radioactive materials, microbiology labs)?                           the community using the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 the same as one appropriate for a primary school.
E-mail Address    section. The Credit                                                                                 It might be useful to define the minimum proportion of a building that         facilities, when e.g. there is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Could a phrase such as this be included: “The resource should be
ian.preston@at    Criteria box                                                                                        should be shared, and under what circumstances those who aren’t                research on
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 appropriate to the range of expertise likely to be found among the
elierten.com      sometimes has brief                                                                                 staff or students can use the facilities.                                      infectious/hazardous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 building’s users.” ?
Manual            details of the                                                                                      For example, does a library that belongs to the SCONUL Access                  materials.
sections          compliance                                                                                          service qualify? I.e. very restricted access to specific non-members of
reviewed          requirements, which                                                                                 the institution.
Management,       are useful, but is
Energy,           sometimes a bit
Transport and     vague.
Pollution
 HE Feedback -                        Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                   Health and Safety Section
  Health and                                                                                  Scope of the scheme
                             Ease of use                                      Aesthetics                                                                                                                                  Achievability
   Wellbeing                                                                                                                        Technical Content

                                     How could the                                                                                                                                                                                              Is there any other issue,
                    Did you find                                            How could the    Is there any function
                                        layout /                                                                      Is the technical content    Could the technical          Were any of the credits totally                               specific to the higher education
  Contributor’s    the guidance                             BRE G          appearance of the area we would need                                                                                                                 BRE G
                                      content be                                                                      and coverage of credits    content of any credits        unachievable for the assessed                                     section, that should be
    Details         documents                             COMMENTS           guidance be      to add / alter in the                                                                                                           COMMENTS
                                      more user-                                                                            appropriate?            be improved?                        building?                                             addressed in this section and
                   user-friendly?                                             improved?          list provided?
                                       friendly?                                                                                                                                                                                              that we have not addressed?
Greg Nash
Imperial College
London                                                                                                                                                                    A comment is made regarding daylight and
                                     The
Sustainability                                                                                                                                                            view out. Both these are very important,
                                     ‘Compliance
Consultant                                                                                                                                                                particularly for education buildings.
                                     Notes’ are
Silcock Dawson &                                                                                                                                                          However the constraints on design and
                                     pretty unhelpful.
Partners Ltd                                             These two are                                                                                                    building form are, in my experience, more
                                     The standard
8 Hinde Street                                           however the                                                                                                      commonly influenced by wider issues and
                                     notes for new
London W1U 3BQ     I’m familiar with                     first thing                                                                                                      so this credit is rarely pursued. If it is
                                     and refurbished
T +44 (0)20 7535   BREEAM                                people would                                                                                                     achieved then it is more by coincidence.
                                     buildings would                                                                                                                                                                      We will consider
1090               guidance                              look for. We'll
                                     be better at the                                                                                                                                                                     this approach.
F +44 (0)20 7535   documents so                          consider                                                                                                         I therefore suggest that 2 credits are made
                                     bottom of the
1099               this helped                           reviewing after                                                                                                  available, to raise the importance of
                                     table as they
gnash@silcockdaw                                         feedback from                                                                                                    compliance, and the they are stepped so
                                     are almost
son.co.uk                                                assessors.                                                                                                       that , for example, if, say, 60% of the space
                                     always identical
                                                                                                                                                                          is adequately daylit then a credit may be
                                     discouraging
Energy                                                                                                                                                                    awarded with 2 for 100%. Similar principle
                                     reading of the
Health and                                                                                                                                                                is suggested for view out.
                                     table
Wellbeing
06.10.08
  HE Feedback -                    Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                                                                                  Energy Section
                                                                                   Scope of the scheme
     Energy                         Ease of use                Aesthetics                                          Consultation                                                          Technical                                                                                                                                                      Achievability
                        Did you find the    How could the    How could the         Is there any function         Have the relevant
                                                                                                                                       Is the technical content and                                                                                                                           Were any of the credits                                       Is there any other issue, specific to the higher education
   Contributor’s           guidance        layout / content  appearance of        area we would need to       issues identified in the                                                                           Could the technical content of
                                                                                                                                            coverage of credits                   BRE G COMMENTS                                                               BRE G COMMENTS                 totally unachievable for         BRE G COMMENTS               section, that should be addressed in this section and that
     Details           documents user-      be more user-   the guidance be         add / alter in the list    consultation process                                                                                any credits be improved?
                                                                                                                                                appropriate?                                                                                                                                  the assessed building?                                                         we have not addressed?
                           friendly?          friendly?        improved?                 provided?               been addressed?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ←
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             When a swimming pool is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             not specified, the credit
Michael Bienias                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Ene 1: Reduction of CO2 emissions
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             will be filtered out and the
University of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Compliance notes - Accredited External Renewables
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             weighting redistributed
Cambridge                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   The wording concerning the accreditation of external
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             among all the remaining
Director of Estate                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          renewables is not clear and should be redrafted to avoid any
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             issues.
Management &                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ambiguous interpretation.
Building Service                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ene 3: Sub metering
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          →
74 Trumpington                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Compliance notes - Relevant Function Areas
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ENE 1 - What is not clear
Street                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Add animal accommodation?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ene 12: Swimming Pool       about this? Please
Cambridge                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Ene 5: Low or zero carbon technologies
                      Yes                                                         No                                                  Yes                                                                                                                                                     ventilation and heat loss - suggest alternative
CB2 1RW                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Compliance notes - List of recognised LZC technologies
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              no swimming pool.           wording.
01223 337806                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Add Anaerobic Digestion CHP and Air Source Heat Pumps?
01223 766486                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ene 10: Free Cooling
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ENE3 - Agreed
mb242@admin.cam.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Credit Criteria
ac.uk                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Consider increasing the number of Credits Available in view of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ENE 5 - Air source heat
Energy, Materials and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       the possibility of combining several technologies in a single
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             pumps are already in the
Land Use & Ecology                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          building (e.g. night time cooling/ thermal mass and ground
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             list, we will consider
11 September 2008                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           coupled (labyrinth) cooling).
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             anaerobic digestion CHP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ENE 10 - we will consider
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             it.

Sean Woulfe
Kingston University
Design and
Programme Manager
PMD, River House,
53-57 High St,
Kingston-Upon-
Thames, KT1 1LQ                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Ene 3, sub metering. Should ‘high containment suites within
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             →
020 8417 3618                                                                                                 Yes                                                                                                No                                                                           No                                                            laboratories’ be added to the list of relevant function areas /
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Agreed
020 8417 3144                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               departments?
s.woulfe@kingston.a
c.uk
Materials, Energy,
Land Use and
Ecology
6th October 2008



                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ENE 11 refers to the requirement
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 of a study but then describes
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 requirements of following a GPG.
Greg Nash                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is confusing.
Imperial College
London                                                                                                                                                                                                           Comments are made in the free-
Sustainability                                                                                                                                                                                                   cooling section requiring
                                         The ‘Compliance
Consultant                                                                                                                                                                                                       clarification of technical definition                                                                                                      One of the issues commented upon is that of energy intensive
                                         Notes’ are pretty
Silcock Dawson &                                                                                                                                                                                                 of free-cooling.                                                                                                                           equipment. It would seem that the requirements of research
                                         unhelpful. The
Partners Ltd                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ←                              over-rides any aspirations for sustainability and low emissions
                                         standard notes for
8 Hinde Street                                                                                                                                                                                                   There appears to be many                                                                                    ENE 11 - this credit will      and little regard is paid to them. Therefore it is rare for
                                         new and
London W1U 3BQ         I’m familiar with                                                                                                                                                                         prescriptive lists for compliance                                                                           undergo considerable           alternatives or the opportunity for any imagination to be applied
                                         refurbished
T +44 (0)20 7535       BREEAM guidance                                                                                                                                                                           which restricts innovation and                                                                              restructuring, and will be     to improve the equipment or its usage.
                                         buildings would be
1090                   documents so this                                                                                                                                                                         slows progress as solutions will                                                                            possibly split in a number     The dilemma is that if this is included in the building and
                                         better at the bottom
F +44 (0)20 7535       helped                                                                                                                                                                                    be installed to achieve the Credit                                                                          of credits. Will analyse it    services design in order to be influenced by the BREEAM the
                                         of the table as they
1099                                                                                                                                                                                                             as opposed to being the best                                                                                again on the Lab expert        energy use of that building becomes unfairly high to achieve
                                         are almost always
gnash@silcockdaws                                                                                                                                                                                                possible solution. I would                                                                                  meeting in November.           other credits. If it is not incorporated the opportunity to improve
                                         identical
on.co.uk                                                                                                                                                                                                         suggest that in some instances,                                                                                                            the sustainable credentials is lost.
                                         discouraging
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 for example, fume cupboard
                                         reading of the table
Energy                                                                                                                                                                                                           energy performance, that a
Health and Wellbeing                                                                                                                                                                                             baseline performance is set for a
06.10.08                                                                                                                                                                                                         typical installation and credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 awarded for improvements on
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 this baseline, however met. This
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 will allow innovation and progress.




                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I am not sure there is any
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ←
Clive Wilson                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  truly renewable energy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             This is purely an
University of Bradford                    I think the evidence                                                                                                                                                                                                                                tariffs available – but I do
                                                                                                                                      Yes, apart from the issues of if                                                                                                                                                       aspirational level credit, we
Director of Estates                       schedule should go                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  think that buying “green”
                                                                                                                                      you build an energy efficient                                                                                                                                                          are aware of the current
Richmond Road                             under the credits                                                                                                                  When a lift or swimming pool is     Buildings which do not require          ←                                    power should at least
                                                                                                                                      low rise building you lose                                                                                                                                                             absense of such a
Bradford, West Yorks                      description to show                                                                                                                not specified, the credit will be   lifts, cooling or heating (because      Such buildings will obtain credits   receive some credit – this
                                                                                                                                      credits for not having energy                                                                                                                                                          service. It would apply to
01274 233110           Yes                what it will be      Colour would help No I do not think so                                                                        filtered out and the weighting      they are so thermally efficient)        indirectly under several issues,     should be over a                                             Page 11 could also refer to Labs21 – HEEPI.
                                                                                                                                      efficient boilers, cooling or lifts.                                                                                                                                                   the assessed building,
01274 235450                              looked at.                                                                                                                         redistributed among the             should be rewarded more than            from Reduction of CO2                stipulated timeframe
                                                                                                                                      You also lose credits for the                                                                                                                                                          new build or
r.c.wilson@bradford.                      Then the detail can                                                                                                                remaining issues.                   energy efficient alternatives.          emissions to thermal comfort.        E5, Alternative credit –
                                                                                                                                      swimming pool issues. This                                                                                                                                                             refurbishment.
ac.uk                                     be crosschecked                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     does this apply just to the
                                                                                                                                      cannot be right.
3rd September 2008                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            new build or must it be for
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             →
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              the whole campus?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Agreed
                          Yes, reasonably.
                                                                                                                          The two available credits, and
                          The BREEAM
                                                                                                                          the single credit available
Name Ian Preston          2008 manuals are
                                                                                                                          under issue
Institution atelier ten   clearer than the
                                                                                                                          Ene 11, are an insignificant
ltd                       2006 versions, but
                                                                                                                          part of the total BREEAM
Position BREEAM           there is still some
                                                                                                                          score
Assessor                  inconsistency about
                                                                                                                          considering the impact of
Address 19                where
                                                                                                                          these issues, particularly if a
Perseverance Works        information is
                                                                                                                          development
38 Kingsland Road         provided, e.g.                                                                                                                                                  The standard schemes are more
                                                 Highlight key                                                            includes a lot of lab space.
London                    definitions are                                                      Ene xx – Energy Efficient                                                                  similar under BREEAM 2008 than
                                                 compliance                                                               There should be a way of
E2 8DD                    sometimes                                                            Laboratories                                                                               previously, which means greater
                                                 requirements so                                                          weighting these                   ←
Telephone Number          provided in the                                                      The Credit aim text is the                                                                 comparability between
                                                 they stand out from   The Scope section has                              issues more heavily, e.g.         the Labs credits will be
020 7749 5950             Compliance Notes                                                     same as credit Ene 11. It                                                                  assessments                                                           N/a
                                                 the text.             not been provided.                                 according to the proportion of    rediscussed in the November
Fax                       table, sometimes in                                                  should refer to labs in                                                                    of different building types, but I
                                                 The target figures                                                       the building’s                    expert meeting
E-mail Address            the Additional                                                       general, not just fume                                                                     don’t think this is the best way to
                                                 can be hard to find                                                      total floor area that comprises
ian.preston@atelierte     Information                                                          cupboards.                                                                                 assess the impacts of each
                                                 among the text.                                                          laboratories.
n.com                     section. The Credit                                                                                                                                             building type individually.
                                                                                                                          I would prefer an approach
Manual sections           Criteria box
                                                                                                                          similar in principle to BREEAM
reviewed                  sometimes has
                                                                                                                          Retail 2006,
Management,               brief details of the
                                                                                                                          where a large number of
Energy, Transport         compliance
                                                                                                                          Energy credits were available
and Pollution             requirements,
                                                                                                                          for retailspecific
Date September            which are useful,
                                                                                                                          functions such as cold storage,
2008                      but is sometimes a
                                                                                                                          catering areas and laundry
                          bit
                                                                                                                          equipment.
                          vague.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          →
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ENE 2 - Agreed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ENE 3 - we will encourage     Ene2 (compliance notes): It should not be regarded as
C. Lawrence
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          both sub-metering at a        acceptable for Labs to have power and lighting sub-metered
University of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          departmental scale            together. User power is significant in Labs and should be
Cambridge
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ene1 requirement to apply (although may consider        separately assessed from normal building loads. A similar
M&E Services
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                assessment to whole of    other way of submetering,     argument can also possibly be made for workshops in some
Project Manager
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             →                                  extended buildings could given that departments         cases.
74 Trumpington
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ENE 1 will be calculated only on count heavily against small may change overtime) and      Ene 3 (compliance requirements): Tenanted areas in HE are
Street                                                                                                                                                                                    Ene11 (compliance notes): fume
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             the assessed building, not the     extensions to large       at tenant level when          rare and higher priority should be given to sub-metering along
Cambridge                                                                                                                                                   →                             cupboard face velocity on 5th line
                  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                        whole existing area.               buildings.                appropriate. Labs with high   departmental lines.
CB2 1RW                                                                                                                                                     Agreed                        should read ’… 0.5m/s may not
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Refurbishment benchmark scale                                consuming pieces of           Labs should be monitored for separate power and lighting and
01223 766938                                                                                                                                                                              be feasible.’
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             will apply to the building         (Doesn’t ‘Refurbishment equipment will be               for specific items of high energy use equipment.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                             assessed if it is a refurbishment. benchmark scale’ only     separately submetered.        Ene 7: Do cold room criteria apply to Lab cold rooms used for
Cl347@admin.cam.a
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                apply to housing?)                                      scientific purposes? (Consider also Controlled Environment
c.uk
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ENE 7 - the cold room         chambers?)
Energy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          credit applies to any cold    Ene 10: Consider adding Earth Tubes as a suitable free cooling
7 October 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          room in the building. Will    technology (similar in nature to Air Intake Labyrinths)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          consider controlled
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          environment chambers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ENE 10 - will consider



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        In addition to the items on fume cupboard design Lab air control
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        in respect of VAV sash control, 2-position control, lab pressure
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Credit aim: Refers only to                              control, etc. should be considered. (Low face velocity is already
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fume cupboards systems.                                 covered by Ene 11 but should be mentioned as relevant to the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There are various other     →                           integrated solution).
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                →
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                systems in Labs that have Please see comment            Design of ductwork systems can be important in determining
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Please see comment above                                    above                       control methodology – e.g. individual extract versus manifolded
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                an influence on energy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                consumption.                                            systems, local vs. central control, etc. type of fume cupboard
C. Lawrence                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             can also influence design - e.g. bypass type vs. face control.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The aim should also refer
University of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                to ‘fume cupboards and
Cambridge                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Under ‘Other issues’:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                associated make up air
M&E Services                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Item k should read ‘Re-use of waste water streams from water
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                systems’ (it is the make up
Project Manager                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         treatment and purification plant’
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                air where the energy
74 Trumpington
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                savings will be realised)
Street
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Consideration should also
Cambridge                                                                                                                Not entirely Needs possible
                  Energy efficient Laboratories section                                                                                                                                   Yes                                                                   be given to Microbiological
CB2 1RW                                                                                                                  development
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Safety Cabinets, IVCs and                               Consider compliance of Lab rooms without fume cupboards or
01223 766938
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                general Home Office type                                low density of fume cupboards.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                standards which also
Cl347@admin.cam.a
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                affect energy use.                                      Compliance notes:
c.uk
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Note re compliance notes:                               The data from the HEEPI meeting held in Warwick last year
Energy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Fume cupboards alone do                                 show that there is a very wide spectrum of building types and
7 October 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                not define a laboratory.                                variations in energy use. The table presented does not give an
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There are some types of                                 adequate breakdown of the various types and does not
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                labs without fume                                       acknowledge the extent of uses within a particular building. The
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                cupboards or low                                        benchmarks are therefore meaningless unless they are
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                densities of fume                                       weighted to allow for the proportion of each building that put to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                cupboards– e.g. physics                                 specific uses. It is not possible to say that a building is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ‘Biomedical’ or ‘Physical’ science as a category without clarifying
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        what proportion is general lab space, bio-facility, or equipment
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        rooms. This section needs to be much more detailed to allow a
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        fair distinction between different types of use.


                                                                                                                         Like the historic building                                       ENE 5 - credit for green              ENE 5 - will consider it
                                                                                                                         section, also fume                                               energy supplier – couldn’t
                                                                                                                         cupboards, pools, free                                           see more detail on this – this        ENE 7 - the credit applies to
                                                                                                                         cooling. Overall excellent.                                      should be a long term                 any cold storage in the
                                                                                                                                                                                          arrangement (ten years                building, will reword if
                                                                                                                                                                                          plus), not part of the normal         necessary
                        plus), not part of the normal necessary
                        tendering, this will not give
Martin Wiles            additionality otherwise and
Energy and              compared to actually having
Environmental           renewables on site is far to
Manager                 easy.
1-9 Old Park Hill
Bristol                 ENE 7 – second credit notes
BS2 8BB                 cold food storage – for many
tel. 01179288034        HE institutions far more cold
m.r.wiles@bristol.ac.   storage is for research and
uk                      teaching needs than for
                        food. Suggest the food bit is
                        taken out as it may allow
                        designers to ignore it, i.e.
                        this credit is for food storage
                        only.
 HE Feedback -                      Guidance Document Feedback                            Scope of the                                                                                                                                                                                    Transport Section
   Transport                       Ease of use               Aesthetics                      scheme                                                                                 Technical Content                                                                                                                                                              Achievability
                                                                                           Is there any
                      Did you find the         How could the      How could the
                                                                                       function area we                               Is the technical content and                                                                                                                                          Were any of the credits totally                                          Is there any other issue, specific to the higher education
  Contributor’s          guidance            layout / content be appearance of the                                 BRE G
                                                                                      would need to add                                    coverage of credits                   Could the technical content of any credits be improved?                              BRE G COMMENTS                        unachievable for the assessed           BRE G COMMENTS                   section, that should be addressed in this section and that
    Details           documents user-            more user-        guidance be                                   COMMENTS
                                                                                        / alter in the list                                    appropriate?                                                                                                                                                          building?                                                                        we have not addressed?
                         friendly?               friendly?          improved?
                                                                                            provided?
                                                                                                              ←
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Bus services are provided by commercial
                                                                                                              Park and Ride can
                                                                                                                                    Compromises are necessary                                                                                                                                    organisations and therefore are often
                                                                                                              be added in the
                                                                                                                                    where developable land is at a                                                                                                                               beyond the control of the organisation.
                                                                                                              travel plan credit.
                                                                                                                                    premium and limited funding                                                                                                                                  To lose credit because an operator is
                                                                                                                                    (particularly where funding is                                                                                      ←                                        unwilling to provide levels of service the
                                                                                                            →
                                                                                                                                    provided from the public purse) is                                                                                  A travel plan written for the whole      University deems necessary seems unfair
                                                                                                            BREEAM tries to
                                                                                                                                    used for refurbishment or new                                                                                       campus will be acceptable, provided it and not all HE establishments can
                                                                                                            recognise the
Dawn Dewar                                                                                                                          buildings. On a compact campus                                                                                      is compliant with the credit             provide their own services.                ←
                                                                                                            environmental and
University of East                                                                                                                  such as UEA it is relatively easy to                                                                                requirements.                                                                       Cyclist facilities:
                                                                                      Park & Ride is not    social advantages of
Anglia                                                                                                                              gain credits for proximity to           Yes although in respect of Tra 5 Travel Plan, the credit criteria states “a                                          Cyclist Facilities                         BREEAM strives constantly to have
                                                                                      featured and many location, although
Transport Co-                                                                                                                       amenities, transport nodes etc.         travel plan has been developed and tailored to the specific needs of the →                                           Compliant Showers & Drying Rooms           the best possible facilities, and this
                                             Improved section                         organisations rely on some of the issues
ordinator                                                                                                                           however our edge of city location,      building users”. The UEA Travel Plan is site specific not building          Like for other BREEAM schemes, and The number of cycle parking spaces               includes having an adequate
                     Overall yes. The        titles and perhaps                       this arrangement to are in some cases                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Car Parking
University of East                                                                                                                  staff catchment area and listed         specific, would there be a requirement to produce a Plan for each           as said before, some of the issues       should not determine the number of         number of showers associated to
                     consistency of the      colour coding of the                     reduce on-site        not dependant on the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Planning Guidance 13 (PPG 13) is used to determine car
Anglia Norwich                                                                                                                      building status along with tight        building? On a compact campus such as UEA this feels somewhat               may not be entirely dependant on the showers & drying rooms available. The other cyclist facilities. This will
                     layout helps the        tables to indicate   See previous        parking and local     institution. We have                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     parking spaces and this may conflict with BREEAM
NR4 7TJ                                                                                                                             budgets make meeting the                unnecessary. Indeed it is likely each building specific plan would be a institutions, however considering these use of the building and number of               encourage people to travel by bike.
                     reader to move easily   which compliance                         network congestion. discussed, during                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          requirements. PPG13 requires only 1 space to 15 students.
01603 593754                                                                                                                        criterion for some aspects difficult.   replication of previous plans and therefore the value would diminish.       issues early would increase the          occupants should be taken into account Said that, we will review the number
                     between sections.       requirement &                            This could be         the expert meeting,
                                                                                                                                    It would be disappointing lose          Comment (VC3) the percentage of 15% is reasonable as a minimum              possibility of agreement with the bus when determining number of cycle              of showers, lockers and cycle racks
                                             guidance notes.                          included under        the relaxation of
d.dewar@uea.ac.                                                                                                                     credits for being unable to meet        requirement.                                                                companies or the LA, in addition let's parking spaces and facilities. It is also    as a consequence of feedback.
                                                                                      “public transport” or some of these
uk                                                                                                                                  compliance requirements for a                                                                                       not forget the aim of the credit: a good our experience that shower are under
                                                                                      “car parking”.        criteria to try and
                                                                                                                                    particular building where the site                                                                                  public transport network reduces the utilised. A survey at UEA showed the           →
                                                                                                            recognise the most
                                                                                                                                    as a whole demonstrates the                                                                                         need to use private cars and therefore priority for cyclists was: covered parking, Car parking: OK, we will review this.
                                                                                                            common
                                                                                                                                    highest standards of creating an                                                                                    has a huge impact on the environment. locked parking – showers were 5th on the
                                                                                                            arrangements in
                                                                                                                                    environment which supports and                                                                                                                               list for staff and 9th on the list for
                                                                                                            campuses (e.g.
                                                                                                                                    encourages use of sustainable                                                                                                                                students. Where budget and internal
                                                                                                            distances calculated
                                                                                                                                    modes and where its users are                                                                                                                                space are limited good cycle parking
                                                                                                            from edge of
                                                                                                                                    central to determining the facilities                                                                                                                        facilities should out weigh the need to
                                                                                                            campuses rather
                                                                                                                                    they require.                                                                                                                                                provide showers at this level.
                                                                                                            than the building
                                                                                                            assessed)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             TRA1 - Please see other comments on
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             the subject in this document.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Typical day is a term day, obviously if
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Wednesday is an exception, that day
                                                                                                                                                                            TRA 1 compliance requirements - The definition of students “living on            is not going to be taken as a measure
                                                                                                                                                                            campus” does not reflect what happens as many student halls may                  of occupancy.
Clive Wilson                                                                                                                                                                boarder the campus and to all intense and purpose be on campus but
University of                                                                                                                                                               this statement would not reflect this. I would therefore have an issue           TRA2 - agreed
Bradford                                                                                                                                                                    with this section.
                                             I think the evidence
Director of Estates                                                                                                                                                         TRA1 Typical day – most universities have Wednesday afternoon                    TRA3 - visitors will be able to use the
                                             schedule should go
Richmond Road                                                                                                                                                               designated for sport and no teaching takes place.                                facilities but in terms odf calculations,
                                             under the credits
Bradford, West                                                                                                                                                              TRA2 1,amenities could also include sports provision and medical                 only students and staff are going to be
                                             description to show
Yorks                                                                                                                                                                       facilities/doctors practice.                                                     taken into consideration.
                    Yes,                     what it will be      Colour would help   No I do not think so                          See next                                                                                                                                                             Achievable                                                                  No
01274 233110                                                                                                                                                                TRA3 credit one should also include visitors
                                             looked at.
01274 235450                                                                                                                                                                TRA4 Cycle lanes onto the campus can not be controlled by the                    TRA4 - only the construction zone will
                                             Then the detail can
r.c.wilson@bradfo                                                                                                                                                           university.                                                                      be affected.
                                             be crosschecked
rd.ac.uk                                                                                                                                                                    Credits should be available for dedicated parking spaces for electric
4th September                                                                                                                                                               cars. Additional credits if they are provided by PV cells to charge the          Parking spaces for electric cars can
2008                                                                                                                                                                        car whilst parked.                                                               be an item in individual universities'
                                                                                                                                                                            Demonstration of added ease for DDA over and above the legal                     travel plan.
                                                                                                                                                                            requirement should receive additional credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             DDA are regulatory requirements,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             therefore not included in BREEAM,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             also because not strictly environmnetal
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             issues. Other tools can be used to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             improve DDA arrangements other than
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             BREEAM.




Michael Bienias
University of
Cambridge                                                                                                                                                                   Tra 2
Director of Estate                                                                                                                                                          It is unlikely that many buildings will fall within 500m of a leisure / sports
Management &                                                                                                                                                                centre - this requirement should be removed or the distance extended
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             There will be a choice of items.
Building Service                                                                                                                                                            (Compliance Notes Table)
74 Trumpington                                                                                                                                                              Tra 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Please see considerations on showers
Street,            Yes (once familiar                                                                                                                                       The number of compliant showers (1 shower per 10 cycle spaces) is
                                             N/A                 N/A                  No                                            Yes                                                                                                                      in other comments.                                                                                                      No
Cambridge, CB2 with the layout)                                                                                                                                             higher than necessary to meet likely demand given the mostly short
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             The size has been changed across all
1RW                                                                                                                                                                         cycle journeys that the majority of students are likely to take.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             schemes and it's the same you see in
01223 37806                                                                                                                                                                 (Compliance Notes Table)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             HE.
01223 766486                                                                                                                                                                Why is the size of lockers higher for HE than that required normally for
mb242@admin.ca                                                                                                                                                              Offices? (Compliance Notes Table)
m.ac.uk
29 August 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ←TRA4 - related to construction
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            zone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • For TRA 4 – Pedestrian and Cyclist           TRA5 - The same document as the
                                           Some more of the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Safety’ it seems to me that the provision      rest of the campus would be fine so
                                           commentary
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             of cycle lanes is more a strategic issue       long as it fulfil all requirements set
                                           ‘bubbles’ would be
                                                                                                                                                                                                 ←Suburban location may have a               for a campus and is often not associated       in the manual.
Sean Woulfe                                useful, particularly
                                                                                                                                                                                                 transport situation which is different      with any single development. This is
Kingston                                   explaining the way
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TRA8 - when there are central              • I have some concerns about some aspects related to the
                                                                                                                                                                                                 from the two extremes of city centre        going to make this credit irrelevant to
University                                 the table under
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            facilities fulfilling the scope of the     achievability of the requirements of TRA 3 – Cyclists facilities for
                                                                                                                                                                                                 and rural, the former being likely to       many applications.
Design and                                 point 1 of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            credit this would be acceptable.           a HE environment. Firstly, I assume the text associated with
                                                                                                                                                                                                 have really good and frequent               • Likewise TRA 5 – Travel Plan is often a
Programme                                  ‘compliance                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 credit 2 should say ‘building user use’ rather than ‘staff use’?
                                                                  The appearance is                                                                                                              transport services, the latter, on the      strategic issue associated with a campus
Manager                                    requirements’                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               There is a general point associated with this credit. In a
                                                                  fine. I found it clear.                                                                                                        opposite, having very scarse public         / a number of campuses. The compliance         →
River House, 53-                           translates into a                                                             On page 13, TRA 3 – Cyclists facilities reference is made to ‘city                                                                                                                                            university campus environment, many students will cycle, but
                                                                  The page numbering I’m afraid I couldn’t                                                                                       transport links.                            requirements try to relate the travel plan     We are going to reset the cycle
57 High Street,                            total number of                                                               centre locations’ and ‘rural locations’. What about suburban locations?                                                                                                                                       will not expect to use changing facilities / lockers. I think it is
                 In general yes.                                  needs attention – it is find the list to which                                                                                 In these two cases we recognise that        to a particular development. If an existing    racks numbering looking at a lower
Kingston Upon                              points under point                                                            Surely the distinction should be between ‘rural’ and ‘non-rural’                                                                                                                                              necessary to think about different criteria for staff and students
                                                                  allegedly a 5 page      you refer.                                                                                             our requirements can be relaxed             over-arching travel plan exists, and is        percentage of racks than 15% (and
Thames, KT1 1LQ                            3.                                                                            locations?                                                                                                                                                                                                    otherwise this credit will become too onerous.
                                                                  document but there                                                                                                             because in the first instance, the public   regularly revisited, would another             consequentely of showers/lockers).
D 020 8417 3618                            Also, the final                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             • TRA 6 – Maximum Car-Parking Capacity has been written in
                                                                  is no page 5.                                                                                                                  transport will be so reliable that people   document be required? This seems               We still believe all facilities should
F 020 8417 3144                            sentence beginning                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          the recognition that most developments happen on a campus
                                                                                                                                                                                                 will anyway have an alternative to          unnecessary.                                   be accessible to everyone, students
s.woulfe@kingsto                           ‘The calculator                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             that provides facilities to a number of buildings. In my view, all
                                                                                                                                                                                                 private car usage, in the second case,      • Likewise TRA 8 Deliveries and                and staff. In any case, we will pilot it
n.ac.uk                                    considers….’ Under                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          credits should be constructed to allow for this possibility.
                                                                                                                                                                                                 the distances will be greater than          Manoeuvring is prescriptive in that it asks    and decide which way to go after
13.09.2008                                 the heading ’The
                                                                                                                                                                                                 average, making travelling by bike not      for …….’space for refuse skips and             the pilot.
                                           Mat 1 calculator’ is
                                                                                                                                                                                                 a feasible option in most cases.            pallets’. This is a facility that is usually
                                           missing a word I                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Where there are shared facilities on
                                           think.                                                                                                                                                                                            centrally provided on a campus, as is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             goods in / deliveries. Does one loose the      campus, these will count towards
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             credit in this instance, ie where these        the achievement of the credit,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             facilities can’t be associated with a          provided they are compliant with our
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             particular development?                        requirements.




                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TRA 2 - BREEAM is an assessment
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       TRA 2 – Again, the measure of 500m distance to amenities can
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            done on individual buildings, and
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       be at odds with the way campuses work in that the facilities may
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            although we are trying and
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       be available within the campus but not necessarily within 500m
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            accommodate any difference that
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       of the assessed building.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            comes from buildings using
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       TRA 3 – Compliant cycle storage spaces. We are of the view
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            common campus facilities, we still
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       that 15% is too high. The nature of the way universities are
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Assessment should take account of the          have to concentrate on the building
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       used by staff and students suggests to us that even if 11% of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             wider availability of facilities in adjacent   assessed. We are expanding the list
                                                                                                                                                                                                  see above.                                                                                                                           staff and students cycle to the campuses, they will not all be
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             buildings across a campus. Recognition         of items that should be within easy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       seeking to park their bikes on site at the same time. There
NEIL                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         should be given to the way staff, students     reach of the building, but facilities
                                                                                                                                                                                                  TRA 1 - Agreed                                                                                                                       needs to be a realism to avoid creating cycle storage that is
HUMPHREYS                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    and visitors use a university campus for       like a food outlet would be expected
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       intermittently used.
UNIVERSITY OF                                                                                                                                                                                                                                several different purposes.                    to be found in almost any building
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Assessment of cycle storage should be considered “in the
BRIGHTON                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Specifically                                   anyway, as almost no-one would be
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       round” taking account of other and existing cycle storage
DEPUTY                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       TRA1 - Public transport generally              willing to walk more than 500m to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       availability campus-wide.
DIRECTOR OF                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  services university campuses rather than       buy a sandwich.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Compliant facilities need to available to building users, but not
ESTATE &                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     individual buildings on that campus. The       We plan to leave the credit as it
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       necessarily within the assessed building. It is reasonable that
FACILITIES                                 Use of coloured                                                                                                                                                                                   proposal is that the accessibility             stands at the moment and pilot it to
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       the assessment considers compliant facilities in adjacent
MANAGEMENT                                 headings/sections                              No comment at this                                                                                                                                 calculator will measure from the main          verify its suitability.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       buildings.
EXION 27,                                  might assist, but                              stage. We haven’t                                                                                                                                  entrance of the assessed building but this
                 Yes                                            No comment                                         Yes   See below
CROWHURST                                  generally the layout                           seen the full scoping                                                                                                                              doesn’t fully recognise that university        TRA 3 - see above.
ROAD,                                      is considered user-                            yet                                                                                                                                                buildings will rarely be used in isolation
BRIGHTON, BN1                              friendly.                                                                                                                                                                                         with staff, students and visitors routinely
8AF                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          accessing several buildings for different
01273 - 643366                                                                                                                                                                                                                               purposes in one visit. Although it may be
01273 - 643149                                                                                                                                                                                                                               more difficult to specifically measure, the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Compliant drying facilities is not a
n.humphreys@bri                                                                                                                                                                                                                              campus the building is located on and
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            compulsory choice and it may be
ghton.ac.uk                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  how the campus operates in respect of
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            feasible for some institutions.            Compliant drying facilities for specifically wet clothes can
9 September 2008                                                                                                                                                                                                                             use of the site should be a consideration
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We have reduced the % of cycling           present security implications within a university environment and
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             in the way the accessibility measure is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            facilities, this will in turn reduce the   we suggest that this should be removed.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             arrived at rather than simply assessing
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            number of showers.                         Cycle racks located within 50/100m of the assessed building
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             the building in isolation.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We say the majority of cycle racks         entrance does not take account of the way buildings on campus
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            should be within 100/50m, we               are used.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            believe this is an acceptable target,      Proportions for numbers of compliant showers seems too high
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            and again we will pilot it and verify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            how achievable is it.                      TRA 5 – Recognition that Travel Plans will be generally campus-
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       wide rather than on an individual building basis
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TRA 5 and 7- agreed, but the
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            shared facilities would need to     TRA 7 – Again, recognition that this is a campus wide issue
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            comply with our requirements set by rather than individual building.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            BREEAM.


                                                                                                                                                                                                 TRA1 - After discussion with the
                                                                                                                                                                                                 expert group, we decided to set two
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Tra 3 – Cyclist facilities
                                                                                                                                                                                                 separate targets for '25% or more
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       The reasonableness of the percentage depends how building
                                                                                                                                                                                                 students living on campus or within
Name Ian Preston                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       users are
                      Yes, reasonably. The                                                                                                                                                       1km radius' and where 'less than 25%                                                       Occupancy will be estimated
Institution atelier                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    defined. The existing definition doesn’t seem adequate to cover
                      BREEAM 2008                                                                                                                                                                of students lives on campus or within a                                                    looking at number of staff and
ten ltd                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                HE.
                      manuals are clearer                                                                                                                                                        km radius from it'. It will apply to all                                                   students present in the building at
Position BREEAM                                                                                                          Tra 1 – Provision of public transport                                                                                                                                                                         Presumably it is the concurrent usage that is relevant. There is a
                      than the                                                                                                                                                                   students of the university, as                                                             any one time during term, not full
Assessor                                                                                                                 It does make sense to differentiate between more and less residential                                                                                                                                         reference to occupancy or NLA in the Schedule of Evidence, but
                      2006 versions, but                                                                                                                                                         presumably it would be difficult to                                                        time equivalent.
Address 19                                                                                                               sites, but perhaps it would be better to make more credits available to                                                                                                                                       it is
                      there is still some                                                                                                                                                        predict exact numbers for the specific                                                     This has been modified in the text.
Perseverance                                                                                                             sites with <25% of students living on campus than to those with >25%?                                                                                                                                         not specified in this credit issue how the occupancy should be
                      inconsistency about                                                                                                                                                        building. The evidence needed would
Works                                                                                                                    More detail is needed to define the percentage of students living on                                                                                                                                          estimated from the floor area.
                      where                                                                                                                                                                      only be confirmation from
38 Kingsland                                                                                                             campus. Presumably this means ‘on the same campus as the
                      information is                                                                                                                                                             statistics/surveys. The London PTAL
Road                                                                                                                     assessed building’?
                      provided, e.g.       Highlight key                                                                                                                                         map is not used directly, it's only the
London                                                            Some of the                                            Does this apply to any students living on campus, or only those who
                     provided, e.g.        Highlight key                                                                                                                                                             map is not used directly, it's only the
London                                                           Some of the                                                                Does this apply to any students living on campus, or only those who
                     definitions are       compliance                                                                                                                                                                basis of the system used to calculate     as above
E2 8DD                                                           Compliance Notes                                                           will use the assessed building?
                     sometimes provided    requirements so                                                                                                                                                           the number of credits, which are going               I suspect the usage of many HE buildings is more like that of
Telephone                                                        tables are too long    The Scope section                                   What evidence is needed in support of this?
                     in the                they stand out from                                                                                                                                                       to be determined with a calculator.                  retail
Number 020 7749                                                  for the page           has not been                                        How should the London PTAL map be used? In particular, how can the
                     Compliance Notes      the text.                                                                                                                                                                 TRA2 - agreed                                        buildings than schools and offices, i.e. relatively small numbers
5950                                                             margins, e.g. credit   provided.                                           assessor identify the location of the assessed development location on
                     table, sometimes in   The target figures                                                                                                                                                                                                             of fulltime
Fax                                                              Tra 1 on p. 6 of the                                                       the map? This last question applies to all BREEAM 2008 schemes, not
                     the Additional        can be hard to find                                                                                                                                                                                                            users but large numbers of occasional users for an hour or two
E-mail Address                                                   Transport section.                                                         just HE.
                     Information           among the text.                                                                                                                                                                                                                at
ian.preston@atelie                                                                                                                          Tra 2 – Proximity to amenities
                     section. The Credit                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  a time.
rten.com                                                                                                                                    This seems a strange choice of amenities to assess, particularly the
                     Criteria box                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Tra 5 – Travel plan
Manual sections                                                                                                                             post box. How many students regularly use mail?
                     sometimes has brief                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Item h. under Compliance requirement 3 has no content. A
reviewed                                                                                                                                    Distance from other university amenities would be more relevant, e.g.
                     details of the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Higher Education building is less likely to be standalone and
Management,                                                                                                                                 student union, refectory, a library whose holdings are relevant to the
                     compliance                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           more
Energy, Transport                                                                                                                           assessed building.
                     requirements, which                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  likely to be closely linked to other buildings within a wider site
and
                     are useful, but is                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   than most other building types covered by BREEAM.
Pollution
                     sometimes a bit                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Transport section in particular, but other sections too,
Date September
                     vague.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               should
2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          address this, but I’m not sure they do at the moment. BREEAM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HE is
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          more similar to other BREEAM schemes than I was expecting.

                                                                                                            I think the rest is good –      Tra 3 – For city centre HE sites two tier bike racks are often           TRA3 - The reason for exclusion
                                                                                                            location to public              the only way to get the number of bike racks in a shed. I think          is the impossibility to lock the
                                                                                                            transport/amenities is always   BRE should reconsider making these non-compliant, unless                 bikes' wheels and frame at same
                                                                                                            going to be a hit and miss      they have a reason for exclusion.                                        time.
                                                                                                            thing and I don’t think         Tra 3 – 15% target is good – when is this calculated some
                                                                                                            BREEAM will influence this      guidance on variation would be good – some departments                   TRA3 - further to general
                                                                                                            decision much. That said the    have large student and staff bodies but do not have them in              feedback, we have decided to cut
                                                                                                            environmental impact of         all the time. So is it the total or a percentage of that total –         the number of cycle racks
                                                                                                            transport is important so we    guidance on this would be good.                                          following what other BREEAM
                                                                                                            can’t reward this.               Tra 3 – Often 15% is not possible, maybe 10% for example                schemes do. The number of
   Martin Wiles                                                                                                                             – with no credits on offer, there is little incentive for the            students and staff for the
    Energy and                                                                                                                              design team to put anything in. Could there be a percentage              purpose of this calculation will be
  Environmental                                                                                                                             score to recognize this – it would help to get some bike                 the ones present in the building
     Manager                                                                                                                                facilities in every project. For me the key thing here is to have        at any one time, not full time
1-9 Old Park Hill                                                                                                                           some bike facilities – this credit can contradict this.                  equivalent.
      Bristol                                                                                                                                                                                                        We want our buildings to be truly
     BS2 8BB                                                                                                                                                                                                         excellent, and in some instance
tel. 01179288034                                                                                                                            Tra 3 – The bike facilities have to be covered and secure –              this means having aspirational
m.r.wiles@bristol.                                                                                                                          For crowded city centre sites this also poises real challenges,          credits. This is what the covered
       ac.uk                                                                                                                                could there be again a lower percentage credit for providing             sheds, in some cases, are.
                                                                                                                                            stands, which are not secure of covered. For our city centre
                                                                                                                                            sites we do offer bike sheds often not at the door of the
                                                                                                                                            building, these can remain half empty where as our front door
                                                                                                                                            free standing hoops are fully utilized.
 HE Feedback -                        Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                           Water Section
                                                                                                Scope of the scheme
     Water                         Ease of use                          Aesthetics                                                                     Technical Content                                                                                  Achievability
                                                                                                                                 Is the technical
                       Did you find the   How could the layout /       How could the        Is there any function area we                                                                                                   Were any of the credits    Is there any other issue, specific to the higher
 Contributor’s                                                                                                                content and coverage    Could the technical content of any credits be
                     guidance documents   content be more user-      appearance of the     would need to add / alter in the                                                                            BRE G COMMENTS      totally unachievable for   education section, that should be addressed in
   Details                                                                                                                           of credits                       improved?
                        user-friendly?          friendly?          guidance be improved?            list provided?                                                                                                         the assessed building?      this section and that we have not addressed?
                                                                                                                                   appropriate?
                                                                                                                                                     Wat 4 – sanitary shut off – agree with the       We will consider
                                                                                                                                                     thrust of this, but have had problems with       these suggestions.
                                                                                                                                                     clerks of works saying they have to flush
                                                                                                                                                     through unused holiday areas to avoid
Martin Wiles                                                                                                                                         legionella issues – creating more water use.
Energy and                                                                                                                                           The issue is Urinals – when they flush
Environmental                                                                                                                                        generally they atomize water. Usually on a
Manager                                                                                                                                              urinal control there is a sanitation flush
1-9 Old Park Hill                                                                                                                                    every 24 hours. The credit needs to
Bristol                                                                                                                                              recognize this by identifying a sanitation
BS2 8BB                                                                                                                                              opening for the urinal, or to specify urinals
tel. 01179288034                                                                                                                                     that don’t atomize – if there is such a thing.
m.r.wiles@bristol.
ac.uk                                                                                                                                                Wat 5 - this can clash with green roofs –
                                                                                                                                                     you don’t tend to have both – reducing the
                                                                                                                                                     credits you can get.
   HE Feedback -                  Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                                                      Material Section
                                                                              Scope of the scheme
     Materials                    Ease of use                  Aesthetics                                                                         Technical Content                                                                                                                          Achievability
                      Did you find the     How could the     How could the    Is there any function    Is the technical
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Were any of the credits                                   Is there any other issue, specific to the higher
                         guidance         layout / content appearance of the area we would need to content and coverage
Contributor’s Details                                                                                                                    Could the technical content of any credits be improved?               BRE G COMMENTS                 totally unachievable for the   BRE G COMMENTS             education section, that should be addressed in this
                      documents user-      be more user-      guidance be      add / alter in the list     of credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  assessed building?                                         section and that we have not addressed?
                         friendly?           friendly?         improved?            provided?            appropriate?
Michael Bienias
University of
Cambridge
Director of Estate
Management &
Building Service
74 Trumpington
Street
Cambridge
                      Yes                                                               No                      Yes                                                                                                                           No                                                        No
CB2 1RW
01223 337806
01223 766486
mb242@admin.cam.
ac.uk
Energy, Materials and
Land Use & Ecology
11 September 2008




                                                                                                                                                                                                           ←
                                                                                                                                                                                                           The category 'floor finishes' is
                                                                                                                                                                                                           being ultimated in the green
                                                                                                                                                                                                           guide and will be available
                                                                                                                                                                                                           soon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                           MAT5 - the difference we
                                                                                                                                                                                                           make here is between
                                                                                                                                                                                                           'reused' materials. i.e.                                    Mat 1 - Correct, in both cases
                                                                                                                                                                                                           materials that can be reused                                our mistake
                                                                                                                                       Mat 1 – Materials specification (major building elements). The      without further processing
Liz Prowse                                                                                                                             ‘Compliance requirements’ state that Floor Finishes/Coverings       (Tier 1) and 'recycled'                                                                      No other issues to include.
Vivid Interiors                                                                                                                        need to be rated using the Green Guide to Specification.            materials, materials diverted
Environment Manager                                                                                                                    I had a look through the www.thegreenguide.org.uk, but couldn’t     from waste that require                                                                      Minor comments:
1-2 Berners Street,                                                                                                                    find information on floor finishes. I found tables that said this   significant processing before                                                                Mat 1, page 5, ‘Compliance Notes’ – under
London, W1T 3LA        Yes, they are                                                                            Relevant issues have   section existed, but I couldn’t find it.                            they can be used again (Tier                                                                 Refurbishment it refers to MW1 calculator. I assume
0207 307 9528          aligned with                                                                             been addressed.                                                                            3 - see definitions in        All credits are relevant and
                                                                                        No alterations to the                                                                                                                                                                                           this is actually the Mat 1 calculator and that the name
                       BREEAM 2008 and                             No comments.                                 Technical content and Mat 5 – Responsible Sourcing of Materials. The guidance on           Additional Info section).     achievement should be strived
                                                                                        scope of BREEAM                                                                                                                                                                                                 has not been updated.
liz.prowse@vividinteri therefore familiar to                                                                    credit coverage is    this credit was a bit confusing, particularly in the case of         Recycled aggregates, in spite for.                                                           Mat 1, page 7, ‘Using the Green Guide to Specification’
ors.com                existing assessors                                                                       good.                 products with recycled content.                                      of the name, are considered                                                                  – the “Schools” category is referred to in this section, but
                                                                                                                                      In the ‘Compliance Notes’ it states recycled content products are    as reused materials as they                                                                  on www.thegreenguide.org.uk it is referred to as
Materials                                                                                                                             considered equivalent to materials covered by certification          don't need processing to be                                                                  “Education”. This needs to be made consistent.
1/10/2008                                                                                                                             schemes that fall within tier 1 of table 1.                          used again.



                                                                                                                                       However, table 1 also classifies recycled materials in tier 3 and
                                                                                                                                       requires certification scheme/EMS evidence for the key process.
                                                                                                                                       Perhaps a bit more of a detailed explanation is needed about
                                                                                                                                                                                                           MAT 6 - internal walls don't
                                                                                                                                       what evidence is needed for recycled content materials and how
                                                                                                                                                                                                           have a big an impact as other
                                                                                                                                       they are scored.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           elements like external walls,
                                                                                                                                                                                                           because they tend to contain
                                                                                                                                       Mat 6 – Insulation. Insulation is frequently placed within internal
                                                                                                                                                                                                           less insulation; a choice has
                                                                                                                                       walls, but ‘internal walls’ are not a building element included
                                                                                                                                                                                                           been made to analyse the
                                                                                                                                       within this credit.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           elements causing the biggest
                                                                                                                                       Internal walls are one of the key elements affected by
                                                                                                                                                                                                           impact. .
                                                                                                                                       refurbishments, so perhaps consideration could be given to
                                                                                                                                       including them within the scope of this credit (and therefore in
                                                                                                                                       the Additional information section).



Clive Wilson
University of Bradford                         I think the evidence
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Where there are not external
Director of Estates                            schedule should go
                                                                                                                                                                                                           areas associated to the
Richmond Road                                  under the credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                           assessed development, the
Bradford, West Yorks                           description to show                                                                     Mat 2 – credits in an urban area for landscaping may not be
                                                                                                                                                                                                           credit is awarded by default
01274 233110           Yes                     what it will be      Colour would help   No I do not think so    Yes                    achievable in a city centre where properties feed directly onto the                              Achievable                                                      No
                                                                                                                                                                                                           on the basis that no new
01274 235450                                   looked at.                                                                              pavement. This disadvantages these developments.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           materials are used. This is
r.c.wilson@bradford.a                          Then the detail can
                                                                                                                                                                                                           explained in the compliance
c.uk                                           be crosschecked
                                                                                                                                                                                                           notes.
3rd September 2008
 HE Feedback -                      Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                      Waste Section
                                                                                               Scope of the scheme
     Waste                       Ease of use                    Aesthetics                                                                      Technical Content                                                                                  Achievability
                     Did you find the                         How could the                                                                                                                                                                         Is there any other issue, specific to the
                                          How could the                                   Is there any function area we Is the technical content                                                                        Were any of the credits
  Contributor’s         guidance                            appearance of the                                                                    Could the technical content of any                                                                  higher education section, that should
                                        layout / content be                                would need to add / alter in and coverage of credits                                              BRE G COMMENTS           totally unachievable for the
    Details          documents user-                           guidance be                                                                             credits be improved?                                                                          be addressed in this section and that
                                        more user-friendly?                                     the list provided?            appropriate?                                                                                assessed building?
                        friendly?                               improved?                                                                                                                                                                                   we have not addressed?


Neal Barnes
University College
Falmouth
Director of Estates
& Facilities                                                  I know this is primarily for
Management                                                    use of trained assessors
Tremough,                                                     but could some pictorial
                                                                                           Appears comprehensive,
Penryn, Cornwall, Yes,                                        representation of each                                       Technical content good                                                                    OK                              No
                                                                                           nothing to add at this point.
TR10 9EZ                                                      section assist in
01326 213701                                                  promoting the key points
01326 254120                                                  covered?.
Neal.barnes@falm
outh.ac.uk
4 September 2008




Clive Wilson
University of
Bradford                                                                                                                                                                               Where there are large
                                        I think the evidence
Director of Estates                                                                                                                                                                    amounts of deliveries, a
                                        schedule should go                                                                                                                                                                                           Occupancy waste seems to only focus on
Richmond Road                                                                                                                                                                          compactor would help sorting
                                        under the credits                                                                                                                                                                                            waste from construction and refurb. It
Bradford, West                                                                                                                                      WST 44 why should a compactor gain the packaging, ready to be
                                        description to show                                                                                                                                                                                          would be good to get benchmark figures in
Yorks                                                                                                                                               credits? The emphasis must be on   recycled in the designed     Achievable but innovation very
                    Yes,                what it will be looked Colour would help          No I do not think so                                                                                                                                       here for good occupancy waste/building
01274 233110                                                                                                                                        sorting and designated recycling   areas.                       challenging
                                        at.                                                                                                                                                                                                          user – ie designing in recycling into the
01274 235450                                                                                                                                        points.
                                        Then the detail can                                                                                                                                                                                          building and driving down waste when in
r.c.wilson@bradfor                                                                                                                                                                     →The Storage of Recyclable
                                        be crosschecked                                                                                                                                                                                              use.
d.ac.uk                                                                                                                                                                                Waste credit has been
4th September                                                                                                                                                                          created for this purpose.
2008



Michael Bienias
University of
Cambridge
Director of Estate
Management &
Building Service                                                                                                                                    Wst 5
74 Trumpington                                                                                                                                      Add Anaerobic Digestion as an
                   Yes (once familiar
Street, Cambridge,                      N/A                   N/A                         No                               Yes                      alternative to composting (Whole     Agreed                                                      No
                   with the layout)
CB2 1RW                                                                                                                                             Section)
01223 37806
01223 766486
mb242@admin.ca
m.ac.uk
29 August 2008
                                                                                                                                                                            WST1 - OK
                                      Some more of the
                                      commentary                                                                                                                            WST3 - OK
                                                                                                                                  • In the text associated with the 3
                                      ‘bubbles’ would be
Sean Woulfe                                                                                                                       credits in Wst1 – Construction site
                                      useful, particularly                                                                                                                  WST4 - achieving the credit
Kingston University                                                                                                               waste Management the / is omitted in                                      • Can the credit for Wst 5 –
                                      explaining the way                                                                                                                    for recyclable waste would
Design and                                                                                                                        tonnes 100m2                                                              Composting be achieved by
                                      the table under point                                                                                                                 ensure there is enough
Programme                                                                                                                         • The heading section is missing from                                     the provision of a central
                                      1 of ‘compliance                                                                                                                      space to store the
Manager                                                                                                                           Wst 3 Storage of Recyclable Waste                                         facility, rather than by
                                      requirements’             The appearance is fine. I                                                                                   compacted waste before
River House, 53-                                                                                                                  • Why does the BREEAM credit for                                          associating the facility with a
                                      translates into a total   found it clear. The page                                                                                    collection.
57 High Street,                                                                                                                   recyclables storage have to be                                            particular development?
                                      number of points          numbering needs             I’m afraid I couldn’t find the list
Kingston Upon       In general yes.                                                                                               achieved before you can get the credit                                    Where the use of the building Not that I can think of.
                                      under point 3.            attention – it is allegedly to which you refer.                                                             →
Thames, KT1 1LQ                                                                                                                   for Wst 4 Compactor / Baler? In a                                         is not relevant to the
                                      Also, the final           a 5 page document but                                                                                       WST5 - Yes, a central facility
D 020 8417 3618                                                                                                                   situation where storage space is at a                                     production of organic waste
                                      sentence beginning        there is no page 5.                                                                                         would be acceptable so long
F 020 8417 3144                                                                                                                   premium, compaction / baling of                                           (centrally programmed
                                      ‘The calculator                                                                                                                       as it complies with our
s.woulfe@kingston                                                                                                                 recyclable material would be a benefit,                                   teaching building for instance)
                                      considers….’ Under                                                                                                                    requirements.
.ac.uk                                                                                                                            and material could be regularly                                           what happens with this credit?
                                      the heading ’The Mat                                                                                                                  If the development does not
13.09.2008                                                                                                                        collected from site rather than stored,                                   Is the development penalised?
                                      1 calculator’ is                                                                                                                      produce any organic waste,
                                                                                                                                  should storage be an issue.
                                      missing a word I                                                                                                                      the credit will be filtered out
                                      think.                                                                                                                                and the weighting associated
                                                                                                                                                                            will be redistributed among
                                                                                                                                                                            the remaining issues.


NEIL
HUMPHREYS
UNIVERSITY OF
BRIGHTON
DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF
ESTATE &
FACILITIES                            Use of coloured
MANAGEMENT                            headings/sections
                                                                                             No comment at this stage. We
EXION 27,                             might assist, but
                 Yes                                          No comment                     haven’t seen the full scoping Yes    No comment                                                                                               No comment at this time
CROWHURST                             generally the layout is
                                                                                             yet
ROAD,                                 considered user-
BRIGHTON, BN1                         friendly.
8AF
01273 - 643366
01273 - 643149
n.humphreys@brig
hton.ac.uk
9 September 2008
HE Feedback - Land                                  Guidance Document Feedback                                     Scope of the                                                                                      Land Use and Ecology Section
 Use and Ecology                                      Ease of use                                    Aesthetics       scheme                                                    Technical Content                                                               Achievability
                                                                                                     How could                                                           Is the                                                                                     Is there any other issue,
                                                                                      How could the                Is there any                                                                                                             Were any of the
                                                                                                        the                                                            technical                                                                                      specific to the higher
                                                                                         layout /                function area we                                                        Could the technical                                 credits totally
                             Did you find the guidance                                              appearance                                                       content and                                                                                     education section, that
Contributor’s Details                                         BRE G COMMENTS           content be               would need to add /         BRE G COMMENTS                              content of any credits       BRE G COMMENTS         unachievable for
                             documents user-friendly?                                                  of the                                                         coverage of                                                                                 should be addressed in this
                                                                                       more user-                 alter in the list                                                        be improved?                                      the assessed
                                                                                                    guidance be                                                         credits                                                                                  section and that we have not
                                                                                        friendly?                   provided?                                                                                                                  building?
                                                                                                     improved?                                                       appropriate?                                                                                          addressed?
                                                                                                                                                                                       LE3 compliance
                       Mainly ok once you are used to the                                                                                                                              requirements 2. The final
                       format however the calculations re                                                                                                                              2 bullet points need to
                                                                                                                                                                                       have their distances
                       species loss/increases were very                                                                                 ←
                       confusing and the table isn’t                                                                                                                                   specified, for example
                                                                                                                                        We don't take into
Katy Boom                                                                                                                                                                              how far from the hedge
                       complete. Check lists were also not                                                                              account animal species
University of                                                                                                                                                                          should the barriers be
                       available.                                                                                                       for the following
Worcester                                                                                                                                                                              placed. If they are too
                       Some of the language is heavy going                                                                              reasons:                                                                                                                 No information yet for LE7 and
Head of Sustainability
                       e.g. page 24 ‘timing of ecologist                                                                                                                               close the erection of the   ←
                                                                                                                                        1. it complicates                                                                                                        LE8 although they both look to
and Development                                                                        Make                                                                                            barriers could damage a     LE3 - will consider it
                       report ‘It is recommended that the                                                         Concentrates on plant calculations                                                                                                             be useful for HE. Would like to
Henwick Grove,                                               Apologies for not         statements such                                                                                 hedge.                      LE4 - thanks for the
                       suitably qualified ecologist is                                                            species should be     considerably;                                                                                                            see context of student and staff
Worcester, WR2 6AJ                                           sending the checklists. as the previous See previous broadened to include 2. We assume that a                             LE4 table 1: general        suggestion, we will
                       appointed to carry out site                                                                                                                                                                                                               consultation and local wildlife
01905 855243                                                                           more reader                                                                                     landscape types             consider this.
                       surveys of existing site ecology,                                                          animals and insects rich flora biodiversity is                                                                                                 partnerships. Perhaps could
01905 855324                                                 We will welcome any       friendly                                                                                        Urban mosaic – too
                                                                                                                                        also a good habitat for                                                                                                  add stakeholder engagement
k.boom@worc.ac.uk on which their report is based, or         suggestions on how to                                                                                                     general whilst              →
                                                                                                                                        animals and insects, so                                                                                                  and education on campus
Land use and ecology to provide verification where the       improve the section; also                                                                                                 acknowledging this          Agreed
                       report is prepared by others, at                                                                                 indirectly it will enhance
25th September 08                                            as explained during the                                                                                                   landscape type should
                                                                                                                                        animal and insect
                       the feasibility stage (RIBA Stage     expert meeting, we are                                                                                                    only be used where no
                                                                                                                                        ecology.
                       B or equivalent) in order to          going to review                                                                                                           other landscape type in
                       facilitate and maximise potential     completely this section                                                                                                   the table is more
                       ecological enhancement."              soon. Meanwhile, any                                                                                                      appropriate perhaps a
                                                             feedback is very                                                                                                          city and rural split.
                                                             welcome.

Michael Bienias
University of
Cambridge
Director of Estate
Management &
Building Service
74 Trumpington Street
Cambridge
CB2 1RW               Yes                                                                                            No                                              Yes                                                                    No                   No
01223 337806
01223 766486
mb242@admin.cam.a
c.uk
Energy, Materials and
Land Use & Ecology
11 September 2008




                                                                                     I think the
Clive Wilson
                                                                                     evidence
University of Bradford
                                                                                     schedule should
Director of Estates                                                                                                                                                  LE2 the credit
                                                                                     go under the
Richmond Road                                                                                                                              →                         is usually a
                                                                                     credits
Bradford, West Yorks                                                                                                                       The credit is in to       requirement of
                                                                                     description to    Colour would
01274 233110           Yes                                                                                          No I do not think so   encourage use of          planning – also                               see comment above        LE8 not included?    No
                                                                                     show what it will help
01274 235450                                                                                                                               contaminated land over    land which is
                                                                                     be looked at.
r.c.wilson@bradford.a                                                                                                                      uncontaminated.           uncontaminate
                                                                                     Then the detail
c.uk                                                                                                                                                                 d.
                                                                                     can be
3rd September 2008
                                                                                     crosschecked
   HE Feedback -                             Guidance Document Feedback                                                                                                                                         Pollution Section
                                                                                                              Scope of the scheme
     Pollution                              Ease of use                     Aesthetics                                                                                 Technical Content                                                              Achievability
                                                        How could the     How could the
                                                                                                          Is there any function area we    Is the technical content                         Could the technical     Were any of the credits        Is there any other issue, specific to the higher
                           Did you find the guidance layout / content be appearance of the
Contributor’s Details                                                                                      would need to add / alter in    and coverage of credits      BRE G COMMENTS     content of any credits totally unachievable for the   education section, that should be addressed in this
                           documents user-friendly?      more user-        guidance be
                                                                                                                the list provided?               appropriate?                                 be improved?            assessed building?              section and that we have not addressed?
                                                          friendly?         improved?

Name Ian Preston
Institution atelier ten
                          Yes, reasonably. The
ltd
                          BREEAM 2008 manuals are
Position BREEAM
                          clearer than the
Assessor
                          2006 versions, but there is still
Address 19                                                                                                                                                                                 Pol 5 – Flood risk
                          some inconsistency about
Perseverance Works                                                                                                                                                                         There are a number of
                          where
38 Kingsland Road                                             Highlight key                                                                                                                HE-specific functions
                          information is provided, e.g.                             Some of the
London                                                        compliance                                                                                                                   that should also be at
                          definitions are sometimes                                 Compliance Notes
E2 8DD                                                        requirements so                                                                                                              least 600mm above
                          provided in the                                           tables are too long
Telephone Number                                              they stand out from                         The Scope section has not been                                                   design flood level, e.g.
                          Compliance Notes table,                                   for the page                                                                      Agreed
020 7749 5950                                                 the text.                                   provided.                                                                        storage and use of
                          sometimes in the Additional                               margins, e.g. Pol 5
Fax                                                           The target figures                                                                                                           radioactive materials,
                          Information                                               on p. 21 of the
E-mail Address                                                can be hard to find                                                                                                          microbiological facilities,
                          section. The Credit Criteria box                          Pollution section.
ian.preston@atelierte                                         among the text.                                                                                                              server rooms, libraries
                          sometimes has brief details of
n.com                                                                                                                                                                                      and archives of rare
                          the
Manual sections                                                                                                                                                                            documents.
                          compliance requirements,
reviewed
                          which are useful, but is
Management, Energy,
                          sometimes a bit
Transport and
                          vague.
Pollution
Date September 2008
                                                                                                                                                                           BRE G COMMENTS
Other Comments

                           Other points
                           We haven’t seen the energy section yet, presumably this is in drafting but it may be helpful if we provide the following        Facilities provided centrally will be acceptable
NEIL HUMPHREYS             observations whilst providing the feedback here.                                                                                so long as they are compliant with our
UNIVERSITY OF BRIGHTON It is a theme noted in the feedback above that the available criteria do not generally accommodate the possibility of a
                                                                                                                                                           requirements.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF         'district' 'campus' or 'site' of buildings. The assessments are generally set up to relate to the new building being assessed
ESTATE & FACILITIES        under the BREEAM as ‘stand alone’. This is not entirely logical in the context of how universities may operate across
MANAGEMENT                 several buildings.
EXION 27, CROWHURST
ROAD, BRIGHTON, BN1 8AF As an example, and within the context of a wider campus, it can (under certain circumstances) be justified that utilisation
01273 - 643366             of an existing quasi-district type heating system already established and in use (and with spare capacity) and relatively
01273 - 643149             efficient in operational terms is a way forward, particularly within the framework of a clear maintenance and replacement
n.humphreys@brighton.ac.uk strategy (i.e. when elements become inefficient it will be replaced). Our experience shows that this has a significant
9 September 2008           negative BREEAM impact compared with purchasing a wholly new one-off system. Given that with the inclusion of
                           ‘centrally located” sustainable energy sources it is better (and more efficient) to be able to utilise the energy ‘gained’ over
                           a wider area and across several buildings – it seems a sensible and sustainable approach but any diversion from the
                           norm is not easily recognised within the BREEAM assessment.



                                          Feedback made on actual manual document - no contact details given
                                                           Health and Wellbeing - G Nash
                                Personal experience has shown that this Credit Issue is often defaulted as wider issues bring the design nowhere near the
                                80%.
                                Would it be better to allow 2 Credits – to raise its importance – and split, ie;
Hea 1                           1 Credit for, say, 60%
                                2 Credits for 80%
                                This will help encourage designers to achieve at least one credit rather than one being achieved through coincidence.     We will consider this approach
                                Daylight is particularly important in education and so a greater encouragement would be beneficial.

                                Ditto the comments regarding daylight, personal experience show this Credit is not attempted but sometimes achieved by
                                coincidence.
Hea 2
                                Suggest:70% <7m for 1 Credit
                                100% <7m for 2 Credits.




                                                                                                                                                            Tinting won't be acceptable, the main concern is
Hea 3                           What is the performance criteria for glare control? Is tinting acceptable, if so w much is required for a Credit?
                                                                                                                                                            that the glare control device is occupant controlled.
Hea 5    Wondered if there were any specific lab or workshop design criteria which are beyond the scope of CIBSE lighting guide.
                                                                                                                                            Would welcome any more info on the issue



         Is it possible to make this more specific to class/teaching spaces rather than offices. ie "1. Zoning of lighting control allows
Hea 6    for varying occupancy and/or uses within each space, appropriate to the usage of that space. In particular, lighting is
         zoned to allow separate user-control as follows:"
                                                                                                                                            we will probably rephrase this to include more
                                                                                                                                            specific wording for teacvhing areas, however we
                                                                                                                                            will still have similar wording for office areas
         This is under a section entitled compliance requirements but does not demonstrate compliance of a nat vent scheme to
Hea 7    performance criteria. Ie "4. For mechanically ventilated buildings/spaces, all mechanical actuators are silent in operation,
         can be overridden by the building user and are fully modulating rather than the open/closed type"                                  I am unsure I get the mistake, can you be more
                                                                                                                                            specific?


         Appears to be no requirement for the modelling to be carried out at a time to influence the design. ie "1. Thermal
         modelling has been carried out using software selected and applied in accordance with CIBSE AM11 “Building Energy and
         Environmental Modelling” [1]." If the results of the assessment is ignored is the credit still awarded? ie "3. The software
Hea 10
         used to carry out the simulation at the detailed design stage must provide full dynamic thermal analysis. For smaller and
         more basic building designs an alternative less complex means of analysis may be appropriate (such methodologies must No, the credit cannot be awarded unless the
         still be selected and applied in accordance with CIBSE AM11)"                                                               modelling demonstrates compliance.
                                                                                                                                            Implementation in the building will be verified at
                                                                                                                                            post construction stage




         Why is it necessary for water points to be coolers? A requirement for accessible location would be a benefit to avoid being
Hea 16
         only placed in eating areas with limited access times (or one in the staff room being included in the calcs!)               It has been demonstrated that cool water appeals
                                                                                                                                            more than room temperature one, so people are
                                                                                                                                            more likely to drink it, and to have a better
                                                                                                                                            performance.

         Is this not mandatory in any case? Ie "Where evidence provided demonstrates that fume cupboards and microbiological
Hea 17
         safety cabinets (where specified) have been designed in accordance with the appropriate British Standard."
                                                                                                                                            This credit is going to be redesigned.

Hea 18   Are these not the result of good practice required by any client and produced by any good engineer? - ref first credit
                                                                                                                                            See comment above


                   Feedback made on actual manual document - no contact details given
                                           Energy - G Nash
         This is an onerous report for Stage C (Outline Design). At this stage the building shape, orientation and massing are
                                                                                                                                         We never had feedback stating that this credit is
         being.
                                                                                                                                         onerous because of the stage. The reason for being
         It is therefore possible for a –ve carbon emission to be achieved - ref "Energy exported to the grid Any electricity from       implemented at this stage is that the design can be
         an onsite LZC energy source that is exported to the grid may be included in the calculations as if it were used within the      influenzed and changed according to the
         building" Main Comment on ENE 1                                                                                                 modelling.
Ene 1    A dilemma: Research requirements will override any low energy/BREEAM aspirations but the academics need to be
         encouraged to look for ways of achieving their ends with the lowest possible energy consumption. It is therefore desirable      Not sure about the next comment. Please clarify.
         to have energy for energy intensive experiments or lab equipment measured as part of the building. However this is
         rather unfair on the building facilities manager as they take the burden of energy which would point towards the energy for     We are looking into a way of recognising labs in
                                                                                                                                         this section. We will be having a meeting with the
         this equipment being uncoupled.
                                                                                                                                         experts on the subject in November.

         Metering of specialist and research equipment should be encouraged/rewarded. Perhaps rather than prescribing metering
Ene 2    of equipment the metering of out going ways from a distribution board above a certain capacity should be metered Non-
         categorised lab equipment ref note "Other major energy-consuming items".                                                                               Agreed



         Is PIR of no benefit?                                                                                                           We recognise daylight sensors. PIR are often
Ene 4
                                                                                                                                         activated by leaves moving because of wind and
                                                                                                                                         animals, and therefore are likely to consume more
                                                                                                                                         energy.


         HE buildings are more likely to have community type energy networks but are also bound by strict capital expenditure            It is acceptable to use community energy, this is
         caps and so need much encouragement to make use of the energy networks.                                                         recognised in various parts of the guidance.
          Why should this be? If the ‘deadline’ for the study has passed LZC should still be encouraged.ref "If the feasibility was
                                                                                                                                         Again, the issue of carrying out the study early is
Ene 5    commissioned at the outline proposals stage or earlier and in the unlikely event the study concludes that the specification     linked to the possibility to implement the findings in
         of any local LZC technology is unfeasible, the first credit can still be awarded. Subsequent credits for installing LZC         the design without extra costs due to value
         technology that meets a percentage of building energy demand will not be achievable."                                           engineering fixes.
         Can this include waste heat from refrigeration ref note " Waste heat from a building related operational process"
                                                                                                                                         Yes, waste heat from refrigeration would be
                                                                                                                                         included.
         These are prescriptive. Is there another method of measurement? Ref "1. Installation of personnel door(s) between
Ene 6    internal and external areas within proximity of any adjacent openings for goods delivery / workshop access; AND a
         draught lobby between office areas (where present) and the external building access."
                                                                                                                                         We welcome any suggestions.
         Again, prescriptive ref "2. Where the cold storage refrigeration plant complies with the following minimum
Ene 7
         requirements:…. "                                                                                                               As above.
         It would be possible to select the lift desired for cost/size/programme/finishes etc and then justify this by finding another
Ene 8                                                                                                                                    This is what in fact it should be done, provided all
         lift which has a higher energy consumptiuon.
                                                                                                                                         elements listed in point 4 are taken in consideration.
         In order to work this requires the necessary controls and equipment. Ref "• Night-time cooling (requires fabric to have a
         high thermal mass".                                                                                                             Agreed.
Ene 10
         This is not free cooling on its own ref "• Displacement ventilation".                                                           Agreed.
         Does this include chp? Ref "• Absorption cooling, using waste heat"                                                             Can include.
         A study is good but there is no wording here requiring implementation. Providing evidence of compliance with the GPG
         is not carrying out a study. A low pressure drop air handling system could be one hat is not poorly designed. N place of
Ene 11   attempting an exhaustive and prescriptive list would it be better to provide a baseline performance (say, in this case, a   This credit will be redesigned after having a
         simple, sashed constant volume fume cupboard with recirculation and then evidence will be required to show                  meeting with the experts on the subject in
         improvements in performance                                                                                                 November.
         Should this also be included in the Credit Criteria as it is not directly related to pool covers. ref. 3. Where the air
Ene 12   temperature in the pool hall can be controlled so that it is 1˚C above the water temperature.                               It's part of the compliance req. and as such
                                                                                                                                     mandatory.However we will consider revision.
         This may also be achieved by use of an energy intensive cooling system.
                                                                                                                                     Agreed.


                   Feedback made on actual manual document - no contact details given
                                           Water - G Nash
         This regards sanitaryware but the use of lab equipment is also relevant. Compliance regards use of low flow devices.
         Reference to recycling appears only as a definition.
         Has the calculator been dropped? Measurement of flow is better than prescribed use of certain fittings. Will there be no
Wat 1                                                                                                                                Agreed.
         opportunity to reduce the water flow in labs? Although the taps are difficult to restrict water can be easily wasted in
         constant flow rinses or cooling when water is allowed to flow to waste for long periods.                                    Recycling will be looked at in another credit
                                                                                                                                     (WAT5)
                                                                                                                                     No calculator is required here, only type of fittings.

         The amount of collected water is not relevant. This credit could be gained with a roof catchment area too small to be any
         value. Better to relate to water use than catchment from a chosen area of roof. Why have these three conditions when
         the important thing is to offset the use of mains water ref compliance choices. Suggest meeting a percentage of the total
Wat 5
         water consumption from means other than mains water in whatever is most appropriate for the building. Perhaps a
         cooling ad other non-potable use for constant flow uses in labs would be appropriate from recycled water.
                                                                                                                                     We give the choice to design teams of having either
                                                                                                                                     catchment areas or quantity of water for flushing.

Wat 6    Is a timer effective so that irrigation is carried out at night time when evaporation is at a minimum?
                                                                                                                                     may be considered.

				
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