In an interview, Harrison Fraker, Dean of the University of California Berkeley College of Environmental Design, talked about the challenges in Asia and at home to building sustainable communities. According to Fraker, the key concept here is a whole systems approach that integrates all the various public services. You look at conservation through good building design, high-efficiency appliances and lighting, passive solar and good shading -- all good climate-response moves. But you have to start with transportation -- a walkable, bikeable community connected to public transit. He also said in China the problem is that the economic inertia is powerful and so it's very hard to do anything different with the development process. He added that he is talking to the chancellor of Tianjin University about a zero carbon campus to facilitate both research and education. The university is a better client because they own and operate all of their systems.