STIRLING CHILDREN'S PARTNERSHIP
MEETING HELD ON WEDNESDAY, 30th August 2006
Forth Valley College, Stirling Centre , Stirling
Present: Joan Savage (Chair) Stirling Council, Children's Services
Bill Eadie Stirling Council, Children's Services
Jill Smith Children's Partnerships Officer
June Campbell Stirling Council, Children's Services
Enola Butler SPPA
Angela Lindie SCMA
Hazel Fraser Stirling Council, Social Work
Gail Fertacz Forth Valley College
Bridget Clark Care Commission
Heather Douglas Stirling Council, Children’s Services
Paul Dumbleton PLUS
Mairi Clark Independent Private Partners / Mulberry Bush
Apologies: Theresa MClean Forth Valley Primary Care
Brenda Simm Homestart
Lesley Cullen Job Centre Plus
Anne Currie Forth Valley Primary Care
(1) Welcome and introductions
Joan Savage welcomed everyone to the meeting, referring to the framework for
action, which was circulated and which highlights the two main functions of
Stirling Children’s Partnership namely; acting as a strategic advisory group for
early childhood and out of school care and; building and sustaining the capacity of
the early years and out of school care sector.
(2) Out of School Care Support Framework for Disability
This item was brought forward in order to allow Paul Dumbleton to leave early for
Paul outlined the framework for supporting disabled children access Out Of School
Care indicating that there are growing numbers of children with disabilities
wanting to access OOSC, mainly as a result of working parents seeking child care
or parents wanting to access social opportunities for children within their local
While most disabled children have additional needs, simply appointing a 1:1
worker to support a child, as is often the first response of OOSC groups, can
isolate rather than integrate the child and work to de-skill other staff. Following a
joint review of OOSC services by Stirling Council and PLUS, Paul outlined the
support and training that is now in place to enable groups to develop plans to
support the particular needs of each disabled child, enabling full integration into
Joan Savage confirmed however, that where a child does require 1:1 support
limited funds are available to provide this. Joan emphasised that whilst the
underlying premise for OOSC is that parents pay for the service, some children
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may have OOSC indicated as a need in their support package, and for which
Social Work will cover the costs. However, in the majority of situation it is the
OOSC setting that requires support to facilitate disabled children access the
service rather than the child having complex needs.
Joan thanked Paul for his presentation, and asked that the meeting return to the
(3) Minutes of meeting held on 26th April 2006
(4) Matters arising
(4a) Bridget Clark indicated that as a result of the last meeting, contact between the
Care Commission and SCP members had improved, with named contacts being
identified for SPPA and SCMA.
Bridget highlighted an issue raised by the area manager, Marjory Booth, relating
to timescales for changing or amending registration details. It is essential that
providers plan for and inform the Care Commission as soon as possible of
impending changes to registration, as changes are likely to take in the region of 3
– 6 months to effect.
Bridget outlined the assessments that would take place in order to identify the
level of support that individual establishments would be offered, and expanded on
the standards and themes that the Care Commission officers would be using
One of the main themes is child protection, and Bridget emphasised that
inspections would look at policies, procedures and training. This topic generated
much discussion with the following points being raised:
There was concern regarding the process for regulating childminders (in
particular) who had been barred from childminding, but then applied for
There was an acknowledgement that while basic child protection training is
essential there are other areas of child protection such as dealing with
challenging behaviour, which should be given a high priority.
The four levels of child protection and the process that Stirling Council is
following to ratify these were outlined by Hazel Fraser. Currently the uptake
of both level 1 and level 2 training by Early Years staff in council and partner
establishments has been high.
A lack of support for management / lead practitioners with a child protection
remit, was raised as an issue, particularly within the private sector.
Heather Douglas informed the group that a ‘live’ pilot of all child care
establishments in the Stirling Area will take place in September, with the purpose
of ensuring that child protection procedures across the area comply with current
Gail Fertacz updated the meeting on the work of the workforce development
group. Currently an audit tool is being developed to assess the training needs of
the early years and OOSC workforce, it is hope that this tool will be sent out
towards the beginning of October. The group is also discussing how the resulting
data will be dealt with and how it can be used to support establishments achieve
registration with the SSSC.
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With regard to the implementation of Hall4, Joan Savage confirmed that all early
years establishments now have an identified link health visitor and proforma have
been developed and circulated to all establishments to facilitate the sharing of
information and simplify the procedure for referrals.
Childminders were identified as one group where procedures for linking with
health visitors have still to be finalised. Joan will ensure this is on the agenda for
the next Hall4 implementation meeting.
Enola Butler confirmed that she has met with Theresa McLean and Agatha Day
regarding improving the links between health visitors and playgroups.
(5) Commissioning of Early Childhood Places
Joan Savage reported to the group that the Scottish Executive has increased
the advisory floor level for commissioned places by 20.5%. The Executive
have indicated that the increase should be used in two ways; to support
workforce development and registration with the SSSC; and to ensure
commissioned places are provided free to parents. New guidance regarding
the provision of commissioned places is due out early 2007.
Stirling Council is currently consulting with partner providers regarding criteria
for partnership, consultation responses should be returned to Joan Savage by
30th September and a full discussion will take place at the commissioned
partners meeting in October.
(6) Nurture Through Nature
Joan Savage welcomed Jonathan Sher, Director of Research, Policy and Practice
Development with Children In Scotland to give a presentation on the Nurture
Through Nature project. Currently CIS are applying to FLAT, Fund for Learning
and Teaching, for resources to pilot Nurture Through Nature kindergarten in four
local authorities in Scotland. More details on the project are attached.
It was agreed that the proposal be given consideration outside this setting by Bill
Eadie, Joan Savage and Heather Douglas.
(7) Building and Sustaining Capacity within the Early Years and Out of
School Care Sector
Angela Lindie provided an update on the SCMA Scheme of Excellence, which
is a recognised award, credit rated and levelled within the Scottish Credit and
Qualifications Framework. It sits at level 6 within the framework with 10
credits. The award is cross-referenced to the core units of the SVQ Level 3 in
Children’s Care, Learning and Development and contributes towards the
underpinning knowledge required.
Stirling Council is funding SCMA to run a Scheme of Excellence Course in the
Stirling area for fifteen childminders. The course starts in September and runs
through until June 2007.
Jill Smith circulated the August edition of the SCP newsletter, thanking
everyone who had contributed. Anyone wishing more copies should email on
email@example.com Jill also circulated pages from the SCP website which is
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under construction, any amendments or suggestions should be forwarded to
Jill as soon as possible.
Joan Savage confirmed that the next partnership meeting would focus on Out
Of School Care and also voluntary sector issues. Following discussion the
following dates and agenda items were agreed for 2007.
March Wednesday 28th March 2007
June Wednesday 6th June 2007
September Wednesday 12th September 2007
December Wednesday 5th December 2007
Agenda items to include –
Review of Early Childhood and OOSC Provision, funding and future trends
Review of Stirling Council Service Plan
Workforce Audit and Review
Health Promotion, Care and Health Education
(8) Scottish Parliamentary Report on Early Years
Joan Savage highlighted that the Scottish Executive has circulated for consultation
the National Review of the Early Years and Childcare Workforce – Report and
Consultation. Copies can be downloaded from the Scottish Executive website at
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2006/07/10140823/0 Stirling Council is
organising a consultation event to review the proposals in November 2006, all
partners will be invited to attend.
(9) Any Other Competent Business
There was no other competent business
(9) The meeting concluded at 12.30pm
The next meeting of Stirling Children’s Partnership will be at 9.30am on
Wednesday 6th December 2006 at Forthbank Stadium, Stirling.
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