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                           Phil Jones to Bejamin Santer dated Nov             Comments RSS
 Tamino                    12 2008. My apologies if you’ve already            []
                           seen it.
 Warwick Hughes
                                 At 03:57 12/11/2008, you wrote:              []
 William Connolley               Dear Tom,
 [] for your email regarding Steven
                           Thanks                 McIntyre’s twin requests under the
 []       Freedom of Information (FOI) Act.
World Climate Report           Regarding McIntyre’s request (1), no
                               “monthly time
[] series of output from any
                               of the 47 climate models” was “sent by
Favorite posts                 Santer and/or other coauthors of Santer
Bring the Proxies up to date   et al 2008 to NOAA employees between
                               2006 and October
[ 2008″.
p=89]                          As I pointed out to Mr. McIntyre in the
                               email I transmitted to him yesterday, all
Due Diligence
                               of the
                               raw (gridded) model and observational
p=66]                          data used in the 2008 Santer et al.
FAQ 2005                       International Journal of Climatology
[ paper are freely available to Mr.
page_id=1002]                  McIntyre. If Mr.McIntyre wishes to audit
                               us, and determine whether the
McKitrick: What is the Hockey Stick debate
about?                         conclusions reached in our paperare
                               sound, he has all
[ the information
p=166]                         necessary to conduct such an audit.
                               Providing Mr.McIntyre with the quantities
                               that I derived from the raw model data
                               (spatially-averaged time series of surface
p=63]                          temperatures and synthetic Microwave
Responses to MBH               Sounding Unit [MSU] temperatures)
[] of an
                               would defeat the very purpose
Some thoughts on Disclosure    audit.
                               I note that David
[ Douglass and
p=66]                          colleagues have already audited our
                               calculation of
Wegman and North Reports for
                               synthetic MSU temperatures from climate                                                                                                           Page 2 of 10
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                                 model data. Douglass et al. obtained
 [ average” trends in synthetic MSU
 p=2322]                   temperatures (published in their 2007
Links                        IJoC paper) that are virtually identical to
                             our own.
                             McIntyre’s request (2) demands “any
                             correspondence concerning these
 Latex Symbols               monthly time series between Santer
                             and/or other coauthors of Santer et al
 MBH 98                      2008 and NOAA employees between 2006
 [] how
                             and October 2008″. I do not know
 Steve’s Public Data Archive you intend to respond this second
                             request. You and three other NOAA co-
                             authors on our paper (Susan Solomon,
                             Melissa Free, and John Lanzante)
                             probably received hundreds of emails
 Wegman Reply to Stupak      that I sent to you in the course of
                             ourwork on the IJoC paper. I note that
 Wegman Report               this work began in December 2007,
                             following online publication of Douglass et
                             al. in the IJoC. I have no idea why
Weblogs and                  McIntyre’s request for email
resources                    correspondence has a “start date” of
 Ross McKitrick              2006, and thus predates publication of
                             Douglass et al.
 Surface Stations            My personal opinion is that both FOI
 [] (1) and (2) are intrusive and
                             unreasonable. Steven McIntyre provides
Archives                     absolutely no scientific justification or
  Select Month               explanation for such requests. I believe
                             that McIntyre is pursuing a calculated
                             to divert my attention and focus away
                             from research. As the recent experiences
                             of Mike Mann and Phil Jones have shown,
                             this request is the thin edge of wedge. It
                             will be followed by further requests for
                             computer programs, additional material
                             explanations, etc., etc.
                             Quite frankly, Tom, having spent nearly
                             10 months of my life addressing the
                             scientific flaws in the Douglass et al. IJoC
                             paper, I am unwilling to waste more of
                             time fulfilling the intrusive and frivolous
                             requests of Steven McIntyre. The
                             irony is that Mr. McIntyre has focused his
                             attention on our IJoC paper rather than
                             Douglass et al. IJoC paper which we
                             criticized. As you know, Douglass et al.
                             relied on a seriously flawed statistical
                             test, and reached incorrect conclusions on
                             the basis of
                             that flawed test.
                             I believe that our community should no
                             longer tolerate the behavior of Mr.
                             McIntyre and his cronies. McIntyre has no
                             interest in improving our scientific
                             understanding of the nature and causes
                             of climate change. He has no interest in
                             rational scientific
                             discourse. He deals in the currency of
                             threats and intimidation. We should be
                             able to
                             conduct our scientific research without
                             constant fear of an “audit” by Steven
                             McIntyre; without having to weigh every
                             word we write in every email we send to
                             our scientific colleagues In my opinion,
                             Steven McIntyre is the self-appointed Joe
                             McCarthy of climate science. I am
                             unwilling to submit to this McCarthy-style
                             investigation of my scientific research. As
                             you know, I have refused to send
                             McIntyre the “derived” model data he
                             requests, since all of the primary model
                             data necessary to replicate our results
                             are freely available to him. I will continue
                             to refuse such data requests in the
                             future. Nor will I provide McIntyre with
                             computer programs, email
                             correspondence, etc. I feel very strongly
                             about these issues. We should not be
                             coerced by the scientific equivalent of a                                                  Page 3 of 10
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                                 playground bully.
                                 I will be consulting LLNL’s Legal Affairs
                                 Office in order to determine how the DOE
                                 and LLNL should respond to any FOI
                                 requests that we receive from McIntyre. I
                                 assume that such requests will be
                                 I am copying this email to all co-authors
                                 of our 2008 IJoC paper, to my immediate
                                 superior at PCMDI (Dave Bader), to Anjuli
                                 Bamzai at DOE headquarters, and to
                                 Professor Glenn McGregor (the editor who
                                 was in charge of our paper at IJoC).
                                 I’d be very happy to discuss these issues
                                 with you tomorrow. I’m sorry that the
                                 tone of
                                 this letter is so formal, Tom.
                                 Unfortunately, after today’s events, I
                                 must assume that
                                 any email I write to you may be subject
                                 to FOI requests, and could ultimately
                                 appear on McIntyre’s “Climate Audit”
                                 With best personal wishes,

                             Posted Nov 25, 2009 at 10:02 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203427] | Reply [/about/?
                                 without the question/request these are
                                 replies to, they are not meaningful AT

                                 It could   be “did you delete data in
                                 relation   to A” in case of the first reply.
                                 It could   be “did you delete data in
                                 relation   to B” in case of the second reply.

                                 You know that, it’s not that difficult. So
                                 unless these opposing replies address the
                                 same question, your post has no
                                 meaning. Do you mind filling the gap?


                                 Posted Nov 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM | Permalink
                              Steve, not sure where to post [/about/?
                            [#comment-203428] | Reply this, but I
                              would like some advice please!

                                 I have been looking at several sets of
                                 data at NCDC. I have spotted a
                                 commonality in most studied so far (not
                                 many, as I have just started). The
                                 commonality appears to be data recored
                                 in early years (early 1900’s for example)
                                 have regular TMIN and TMAX information,
                                 however, the later years (1990 onwards
                                 for example) have regular info for TMAX,
                                 but not TMIN.

                                 Can anyone give a reasonable insight as
                                 to why this would be and, if it has any
                                 effect on deriving mean temperatures?

                                 Many thanks!

                                  Roger Carr
                                 Posted Nov 27, 2009 at 1:05 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203429] the type[/about/?
                              Would you blacken up | Reply some,
                                 I find it too pale to read quickly and
                                 Your other site, and Anthony Watts’ site
                                 being black on white are much easier to
                                 work through.

                              A Mullen
                             Posted Nov 27, 2009 at 11:35 PM | Permalink
                              “I believe that our community [/about/?
                            [#comment-203430] | Reply should no
                              longer replytocom=203430#respond]
                                      tolerate the behavior of Mr.
                                 McIntyre and his cronies. McIntyre has no
                                 interest in improving our scientific
                                 understanding of the nature and causes
                                 of climate change. He has no interest in                                                       Page 4 of 10
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                                 rational scientific discourse. ” Benjamin

                                 Everything I have seen before and
                                 following the Hadley disclosures confirms
                                 You, Mr. McIntyre, are an arse!

                                 Posted Nov 29, 2009 at 6:21 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203431] | Reply [/about/?

                                 The segment is number 03 and the graph
                                 is about 1min 56

                                 He cites Moberg (canny from UEA
                                 published in Nature …)

                                 Posted Nov 29, 2009 at 6:25 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203432] | Reply [/about/?
                              He discusses tree density from about
                              3:38 replytocom=203432#respond]

                                 I take back everything I said about
                                 treemometers: they really do work as
                                 long as you look at what they really do
                                 and not “hide the decline”

                                 wa777 Dec 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203433]hearing it[/about/?
                              I ran this down after | Reply
                              referenced on the evening news. I can’t
                                 vouch for its accuracy, but it might be of
                                 some use to you. It appears to be
                                 programmer notes made while analyzing
                                 an undocumented system.

                                 The Harry_Read_Me.txt file (as of
                                 December 1, 2009)
                                      WA777 Dec 12, 2009 at 4:42 PM |
                                      FOIA: The[#comment-208522] |
                                      Permalink HARRY_READ_ME.txt file
                                      has been unavailable at [/about/?
                                      for the past two days.
                                      The host “” is not available
                                      per “Ping” command.

                                        Posted Dec 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM |
                                      Permalink [#comment-208527]
                                          This site still works (but I
                                          can’t vouch |for it): [/about/?
                                          NetWriter, Steve.
                                          “CLIMATEGATE: My analysis of
                                          the CRU files, starting with
                                          Blog. NeuralNetWriter,
                                          November 21, 2009.
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                                 patrick Dec 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203434] | Reply [/about/?
                                 Interview Request for Steve McIntyre.

                                 Is it okay to send you a few questions. A
                                 few links to my articles are provided in
                                 the Website. Please advise. Thanks!

                                 editions du3, 2009 at 3:51 PM | Permalink
                                  Posted Dec
                            [#comment-203435] | Reply [/about/?
                              I am a replytocom=203435#respond]
                                      french picture researcher. I would
                                 like to send you a reproduction
                                 authorization request for Seuil publisher
                                 in Paris. Would you be so kind as to let
                                 me know an e-mail adress where to
                                 contact you.
                                 Thank you very much in advance.

                                   B Micawber
                                 JPosted Dec 4, 2009 at 5:57 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203436] | Reply [/about/?
                              Here are three abstracts of our papers
                              rejected by JGR, Nature and EOS all
                                 journals previously published my work.
                                 Perhaps it illustrates the closed nature of
                                 the climate community and inability to
                                 conduct fieldwork to assess problems
                                 SST IN THREE ABSTRACTS with buckets

                                 Abstract 1
                                 Discrepancies between two major
                                 instrumental tropical Pacific Sea Surface
                                 Temperature (SST) datasets
                                 approximately coincided with changes in
                                 measurement methods from buckets to
                                 engine seawater intake (SWI) to satellite
                                 and buoy measurements. These data sets
                                 are important for ENSO climate trends.
                                 We report collection and analysis of
                                 hourly SST data from buckets, SWI, full
                                 meteorological data, and noon CTD
                                 profiles in central Pacific between
                                 Marquesas and Hawaiian Islands, May-
                                 June 2008. Eighteen observers simulated
                                 many archived-data observers. Related
                                 satellite, moored and drifting buoy, and
                                 Voluntary Observer Ships (VOS) data
                                 were obtained for comparison.
                                 Differences between wood, canvas and
                                 rubber bucket SSTs were insignificant for
                                 all 311 records in all conditions, day or
                                 night. No evaporative cooling was seen
                                 for canvas buckets, consistent with short
                                 sample time ~<1 minute and high
                                 humidity ~80%. SWI temperatures were
                                 0.3oC±0.2oC cooler than bucket
                                 temperatures consistent with the ~3m
                                 intake depth, confirmed by noon CTD
                                 profiles. Buoy and VOS data were too few
                                 to be conclusive but in general agreed
                                 with bucket data. There were no
                                 differences between moored or drifting
                                 buoy data. Later OSTIA datasets
                                 including satellite data were in general
                                 agreement with bucket temperatures. A
                                 surprising weak correlation of 0.24 was
                                 observed between bucket SST and dry
                                 bulb air temperature. Some archived
                                 canvas bucket data were adjusted for
                                 evaporative cooling, and archived SWI
                                 data adjusted for engine room heating
                                 ~0.3oC-0.7oC. We conclude that neither
                                 adjustment was justified. Engine room
                                 heating is physically unlikely and
                                 Our field work suggests that
                                 discrepancies in sea surface temperature
                                 data sets are likely to be found in
                                 seawater intake temperature data
                                 because bucket and satellite data were                                                                                                                Page 6 of 10
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                                 found to be in broad general agreement.
                                 However, we have shown engine room
                                 warming cited as a possible source of
                                 seawater intake temperature data error
                                 to be negligibly small and the cause of
                                 the statistically derived bias remains

                                 Abstract 2
                                 It is reported that an abrupt temperature
                                 drop of ~0.3oC in 1945 in data sets used
                                 to monitor Earth’s climate may be due to
                                 uncorrected biases in sea the surface
                                 temperature record from engine room
                                 warming of seawater intake1. Seawater
                                 intake temperature is used in place of
                                 sea surface temperature based on a well-
                                 mixed 10m surface layer and suggested
                                 warming is based on statistical analysis
                                 of simultaneous bucket and seawater
                                 intake data 2,3,4,5,6,7. Oceanographic
                                 reports suggest engine room warming is
                                 not proven and that accuracy of
                                 measurement, depth of intake and near-
                                 surface thermocline are most important
                                 8,9,10,11,12. Seawater intake depth was
                                 not recorded until 1995 and even then by
                                 untrained, non-scientist observers 13.
                                 Engine room warming and assumption of
                                 a 10m well-mixed ocean surface has not
                                 been tested by experiment. We show
                                 from physical and engineering principles
                                 and practical experience that engine
                                 room warming is negligible and
                                 assumption of a 10m well-mixed ocean is
                                 invalid with reported near-surface
                                 thermocline gradients ~-0.01-0.3oCm-1.
                                 Near-surface thermocline and halocline
                                 data contain valuable information and
                                 may allow computations of rates of
                                 evaporation, precipitation, runoff and ice
                                 melt but are poorly studied 14. We
                                 suggest that large discontinuities in the
                                 mid-twentieth century record may be
                                 resolved by completely removing sub-sea
                                 surface observations, and that scientists
                                 should collect and analyse detailed near-
                                 surface salinity-temperature-depth data
                                 as priority ground truth for climate
                                 change assessment and modelling.

                                 Abstract 3
                                 Corrections for non-existent engine room
                                 warming of seawater intake (SWI)
                                 temperatures caused discrepancies
                                 between climate models and probably
                                 missed a major shift in sea temperatures.
                                 Multidisciplinary Eos brought the climate
                                 model problem to our attention. Vecchi et
                                 al [2008] report US models indicate more
                                 El Niño-like conditions; UK more La Niña-
                                 like. This is attributed to transition
                                 between surface seawater temperature
                                 (SST) measurement methods from
                                 buckets to SWI to modern satellite and
                                 buoys. SWI engine room warming and
                                 evaporative cooling in buckets were
                                 suggested errors. As a retired
                                 multidisciplinary experimental
                                 geophysicist and undergraduate student
                                 interested in climate change, we applied
                                 Newtonian experimental physics.
                                 Experimental data comprising 311 hourly
                                 measurements of SST by many methods
                                 with simultaneous meteorological and
                                 oceanographic data in central Pacific
                                 between Tahiti and Hawaii were
                                 analysed. There was good agreement
                                 between all buckets and modern near-
                                 simultaneous constructed satellite-buoy
                                 datasets within the limits of monthly
                                 averages over 1 degree latitude and
                                 longitude. Evaporative cooling was
                                 absent due to humidity ~80% and less
                                 than 1min sampling times. Engine room
                                 heating is impossible with ~1second time
                                 to intake thermometers and high
                                 volumes. A thermocline depth of 5m with
                                 gradient -0.1oC per meter was found.                                                    Page 7 of 10
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                                 Average correlation between SST and
                                 marine air temperature (MAT) was
                                 ~0.24. Climate models assume well-
                                 mixed ocean to 10m and substitute MAT
                                 for SST. Neither assumption was
                                 supported by field data. We suggest this
                                 arose from reliance on statistical analysis
                                 of data from non-professional observers
                                 on World Meteorological Organisation
                                 (WMO) Voluntary Observing Ships (VOS)
                                 scheme and ships’ logs, lack of ground
                                 truth and absence of communication
                                 across geophysical sciences and peer-
                                 review in narrow specialist disciplines.
                                 The depth of SWI was not recorded from
                                 1955 to 1995 so is useless as
                                 measurement of SST. Peer-review
                                 becomes crony-review in very narrow
                                 disciplines. Thus wrong assumptions can
                                 propagate and appear in text books
                                 without challenge from close colleagues.
                                 Large numbers of authors may also
                                 inhibit challenges. We believe the solution
                                 is broad training in Newtonian physics
                                 and applied mathematics coupled with
                                 multi-disciplinary study, field and
                                 laboratory work and a return to scientific
                                 method. Theory, experiment, analysis
                                 and further refinement is essential. We
                                 cite examples of multidisciplinary
                                 education and focussed well-managed
                                 cross-disciplinary research programs. If
                                 basic misconceptions arise when we know
                                 the equations, how much more difficult it
                                 will be when tackling complex earth
                                 systems problems? Climate change is too
                                 important to be left to climatologists. We
                                 need well managed and funded, tightly-
                                 focussed multidisciplinary programs using
                                 investigators from many disciplines
                                 working cooperatively in future.

                                 Vecchi, G. A., A. Clement, and B. J.
                                 Soden (2008), Examining the tropical
                                 Pacific’s response to global warming,
                                 EOS, 89(9), 81, 83.

                                  Posted Dec 6, 2009 at 3:21 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-203437] | Reply [/about/?
                              J B Micawber your research high lights a
                                 issue i’ve always had with climate data.
                                 Until satellites and modern measuring
                                 equipment most methods seem to be
                                 arbitrary and lacking accuracy. It also
                                 seems to me that there is little regard for
                                 determining the sample size and Lat\Long
                                 locational distribution for temperature,
                                 co2 and other global measurement. Were
                                 those types of observations part of your
                                 thought process to start your research?
                                 To me to get an accurate average earth
                                 temperature measurment one would need
                                 millions of temperate readings spread
                                 around the globe. Would you further
                                 argue that maybe all global temperature
                                 measurements before satellites are
                                 simply subject too to many
                                 inconsistencies, errors and poorly and too
                                 few in quantity to be accurate enough to
                                 make strong conclusions?

                                 Posted Dec 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM | Permalink
                                         [#comment-207769] | Reply
                                     [http://none]             [/about/?
                                     I replytocom=207769#respond]
                                       think you are absolutely right,
                                     have wondered the same thing
                                     myself. I calculate that with spacing
                                     and number similar to the US it
                                     would take at least 60K world-
                                     wide,but satellites should even
                                     things out, esp w/comfirm from
                                     ARGOS and landside stations.But
                                     when you are talking a bout 1-2
                                     degrees C making a big diff.
                                     reliance on any global info before
                                     about 1995 has to be assumptive                                                     Page 8 of 10
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                                      about 1995 has to be assumptive
                                      and is therefore by definition
                                      subject to the character of the
                                      assumer, which appears in short
                                      supply with the AGore crowd. GS

                                         Posted Dec 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM |
                                      Permalink [#comment-212861] |
                                      All it takes for me to determine
                                                          Reply [/about/?
                                      land-based thermometers are no
                                      good for ‘climate’ determination is
                                      to ride a motorcycle across the
                                      county. *Where* is a meaningful
                                      spot to put that pesky instrument?

                                      Since ground temperature (and
                                      ground water) reflects average,
                                      year-round temperature, why isn’t
                                      it used to determine long term
                                      changes? Most well logs note the
                                      temperature of the aquifer.

                                 GeorgeDec 9, 2009 at 5:20 PM | Permalink
                            [#comment-207760] | Reply [/about/?
                                 Please look at
                                 [] for an
                                 offset site to AGores crumbling Greenland
                                 glacier. Some US p-38’s had to land in
                                 SE GL in 1942, and when Shoffner dug
                                 one up in 1992 they had to go down 262′
                                 to get it. Doesn’t seem like any warming

                                 Tony Dec
                                 Posted Lam15, 2009 at 5:05 AM | Permalink
                            [#comment-209286] | Reply [/about/?
                              snip – editorializing

                                 Posted Dec 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM | Permalink
                              First time comment, so may [/about/?
                            [#comment-211232] | IReply be out of
                              date, but I assume you would have seen
                                 this :

                                 Here is the report, obscured by jargon,
                                 but with a firm conclusion. It is from
                                 Robert H. Essenhigh Department of
                                 Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State
                                 University, Columbus, Ohio 43210 April

                                 As far as I can construe it, the conclusion
                                 is that while A-bomb tests in the 50s/60s
                                 increased CO2 by 1000% above normal,
                                 it had returned to normal after 16 years.
                                 (A spokes-lady on the BBC claimed that
                                 we still have the emissions of the last
                                 200 years!)
                                 Since CO2 lasts in the atmosphere for
                                 only 4 years, and not 100, the rise in
                                 temperature caused the rise in CO2, and
                                 not man-made smoke.

                                 I assume too that you are aware that
                                 statements in Germany and the UK
                                 confirm that for the last 9-10 years
                                 global temperature has been on a
                                 plateau – no increase.

                                 Harold Jan 9, 2010 at 9:39 AM | Permalink
                              I can’t find where to post this [/about/?
                            [#comment-214912] | Reply –
                              HADCRUT3 and GISTEMP data for 2009
                                 has been added to the model / temp
                                 comparison chart at realclimate:

                                 This gives 4 years in a row below the
                                 prediction, an unlikely result if the                                                                         Page 9 of 10
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                                 models were predictive. Note that the
                                 2009 data only goes through November!

                                 Ashley Kwak 2010 at 1:14 AM | Permalink
                                 Posted Jan 25,
                            [#comment-217731] | Reply [/about/?
                              Subject: The Four Major Rivers
                              Restoration Project in Korea.

                                 Dear Steve McIntyre

                                 Greetings, I am a PR Manager for the
                                 Office of National River Restoration,
                                 Korea. I have known your blog for a
                                 while and very impressed about your
                                 efforts in articles and posts related in
                                 climate change. It is no doubt that
                                 climate change is one of the most urgent
                                 agenda nowadays. From this respect, I
                                 would like to introduce our governmental
                                 green growth initiative – The Four Major
                                 River Restoration Project.

                                 On 15 August 2008, at a national address
                                 on the 60th anniversary of the Republic
                                 of Korea, President Lee Myung-Bak
                                 announced a “low-carbon, green growth”
                                 strategy as a new vision to guide the
                                 nation’s long-term development. Six
                                 months later, in January 2009, the
                                 Government of the Republic of Korea
                                 responded to the deepening recession
                                 with an economic stimulus package
                                 equivalent to US$ 38.1 billion of which 80
                                 per cent (the highest ratio among
                                 comparable packages from other G20
                                 governments) was allocated to
                                 environmental themes such as fresh-
                                 water, waste, energy-efficient buildings,
                                 renewable energies, low-carbon vehicles,
                                 and the rail network.

                                 More recently, on 6 July 2009, the
                                 Republic of Korea announced a Five-Year
                                 Plan for Green Growth to serve as a
                                 medium-term plan for implementing the
                                 National Strategy for Green Growth over
                                 the period 2009-2013. With total funding
                                 of US$ 83.6 billion, representing 2 per
                                 cent of GDP, this Five-Year Plan intends
                                 to turn the strategy into concrete and
                                 operational policy initiatives towards
                                 achieving green growth.

                                 The Four Major Rivers Restoration Project
                                 is one of the major initiatives for
                                 achieving the green growth and
                                 addressing climate change. In detail, the
                                 project is intended to address such
                                 water-related problems as recurring
                                 floods and droughts caused by climate
                                 change and to create riverside cultural
                                 facilities in a bid to upgrade the quality of
                                 life of residents in adjacent regions. It
                                 has begun in January 2009 and
                                 comprised an essential part of Korea’s
                                 mid-and long-term master plan for green
                                 growth including a national strategy and
                                 a five-year plan to achieve green growth.

                                 Would it be possible if you could publish
                                 our news& information on your blog? If
                                 you are interested in knowing more about
                                 this project and/or have any questions,
                                 please do not hesitate to contact me. We
                                 will provide additional reference materials
                                 and information.

                                 I am looking forward to hearing from

                                 Sincerely yours,

                                 PR manager
                                 Ashley Kwak

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