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Re: .22 Magnum Rifle/Scope Combination

Source: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.hunting/2007−04/msg00171.html



     • From: penultimate <drwilly@xxxxxxxxxx>
     • Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:09:08 −0700

On Apr 26, 9:40 pm, "Len McDougall, Outdoor Writer"
<LMwrit...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

       On Apr 19, 10:26 pm, Mike <feckzh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




               Every Tasco scope I have ever owned has failed within a few years. My
               nephew missed a nice deer a few years back with a Tasco on it's first hunt −
               the scope was only months old. I have no idea about the Simmons you
               mention
               but I would guess the quality isn't much better a that price. I don't know
               what the value of your gift card is but if the rifle uses it all up I'd look
               elsewhere for a scope with a decent review for the amount you have left
               over. Basspro.com has user reviews of much of their equipment as does
               midway.com − you can at least get an idea what other people think of it
               before you buy even if you go somewhere else.



               Mike



               "JMAC" <jim_mclen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message



               news:1176534734.421891.254900@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



                       Looking to purchase a new .22 magnum rifle with scope for
                       my 18−year−
                       old nephew for a high school graduation present and would
                       like to keep


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                    the total cost under $250.



                    For rifles, I've checked out the following with synthetic
                    stocks at
                    Wal−Mart.



                    *Savage−Stevens Model 305 (SV305) for $159. (clip−5)
                    *Savage 93F (SV93F) for $170. (clip−5)
                    *Marlin 983T (983T) for $184. (tubular feed−12)
                    *Savage 93G for $174. (clip−5, wood stock).



                    Both the Savage 93F and the 93G have the Accu−Trigger.



                    For scopes, Wal−Mart has the following:



                    *Tasco Silver Antler 3x9x32 for $25.
                    *Tasco Pronghorn 3x9x32 for $31.
                    *Tasco Pronghorn 4x32 for $25.
                    *Simmons .22 MAG 4x32 for $27.



                    Any ideas on what would be the best combination from the
                    items
                    mentioned above? I've got an old gift card for Wal−Mart I
                    need to use
                    up so I'll definitely be buying from Wally World.



                    Anyone have an experiences, good or bad, with any of these
                    rifles or
                    scopes?



                    −JMAC− Hide quoted text −



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        Excerpt from Feb/March issue of Modern Survival
        (http://www.modernsurvival.net/preview.cfm), a feature titled "Sighting−In
        Your Own Riflescope."

        "While the above holds true for all scopes marked "1 click equals
        1/4−inch at 100 yards," do not expect that it will be exact for all
        telescopic sights, because all scopes are not created equal. If your
        rifle is sporting a tactical sight that retails for $1,000, it had
        better move the point of impact exactly 1/4−inch per click at 100
        yards. But if your gun wears a low−end model that sold for $50 at a
        department store, it cannot be expected to contain the same clockwork
        precision. An inexpensive scope can get the job done very well once
        it has been sighted−in, but you may have to twist 5 clicks to equal 1
        inch of movement on a target 100 yards distant."

        A properly mounted and zeroed Tasco will let you hit a target as well
        as any Swarovski scope − your nephew probably just missed (it's human
        nature to blame the gun). Differences in quality have to do with
        nitrogen−filled tubes, JIS waterproof ratings, optical coatings, and
        precision adjusters, not the ability to align crosshairs with a
        bullet's point of impact. If you do a lot of re−zeroing, hunting in
        dim light, or if you hunt in extreme cold (Michigan's U.P.), you'll
        want a good a scope. How good a scope will depend on how seriously
        you take shooting at living creatures.

        FYI, Tasco/Bushnell is actually a bit pissed at me because I gave
        their new World Class binocular a last−choice Best Buy rating in
        Consumers Digest magazine a year ago (I just call 'em as I see 'em).
        So, I'm not sticking up for Tasco, just trying to keep their scopes
        from getting a rap they don't deserve.

        Len McDougall, Outdoor Author/Wilderness Guide, Timberwolf Wilderness
        Adventures, Paradise, MI− Hide quoted text −

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Hmmmm?

When I see a see a brand new or newish Tasco variable that maintains
the same zero within a MOA or two across its variable range, and does
not display significant parallax error (1 to 3 MOA) at normal hunting
ranges (60 to 300 yards), I guess I would agree with your claims about
hitting a target as well with a Tasco product as with a better scope.
However, I will agree that the error from these sources (attributable
to poor to non−existant quality control) is generally not large enough
to miss an entire deer. And I am sure that every once in a while
Tasco might get it right for a random scope or two. And, of course,
if your rifle stock fits you very well and you are very careful to
maintain consistent cheek weld on every shot, you can probably

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overcome the parallax error well enough to get a decent group.

But when I see a Tasco on a used rifle I want, I'm pretty sure I can
get a good deal on the rifle. Why? Because the owner knows the rig
won't shoot very well and thinks the problem is the rifle. I usually
see benchrest group size shrink by about half when I replace a Tasco,
Simmons, or low end Bushnell with a 40 year old K4 I keep for this
testing purpose.

But there is of course the nasty tendancy of the reticles to shoot
loose on a rifle with a little recoil, a factor that always leaves
some doubt about where your next shot might land. Recoil is not
great enough for a 22 Mag for this to be much of an issue and I have
heard even the best scopes will break on occassion. But I've never
managed to shoot a Leupold into rattling when you shake it and I had
about 1/2 dozen broken Tasco's in a box that I recently tossed in the
trash. Which, of course, surfaces the issue of lifetime warrantee.
With Tasco, you should be aware that the "lifetime" is Tasco's.

How many times has Tasco gone bankrupt in the past?

Maybe Tasco has finally gotten it right. But I am one that sure does
not plan on spending any money to find out my opinion of their
products should be upgraded.

If the most you can afford for a scope is $50, use iron sights.
.




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