Times of Relevance Date 1.1
Part 1: Restricted, emerging period
Both are born
approximat ely 19 years
Date 1.2 Date 2.1
Part 2: Introductio n Period/Earl y Part approximat ely 6 or 7 years
She manages to break away from her major vestiges of specific tradition, becoming a free-thinker (at least among the people of her type of history). She confirms humans aren’t special
Gets chance to kill bad guy and is too sympathetic. Bad move.
Date 2.2
He reaches the zenith of his mad frustration. Now the real changing can start. Enters distinctive characterization of this part, being the solemn, depressed, quiet one.
Ulyphia has some points she can be said to be less flexible on.
For a while he is like a bully in simplistic hateful way, but still good guy.
Ludin gets offer to forget everything, as if it never happened. Can be happy.
The spy joins them. They start learning about cunning.
He learn that there is a price on human life. Not the explicit price, but that no matter what there is always some kind of price
They interact with the Republic for the first time.
He finds a difference between what is learned and what is true.
Date 2.3
They separate from their captain.
This time, they are
Date 2.4
This time, they are somewhat more optimistic. They have passed entry.
They meet the nemesis/counter guy for the first time.
They meet Gilthoniel
She admits to the non-existence of perfection
Jeel gets intelligence and goes bad.
Übermensch
Date 2.5
He takes the position that he shall care equally for others as for himself.
Ludin takes a position of no killing.
He becomes like an advanced, enlightened, but still rather decisive and convicted future person. He accepts the absense of mystical things.
Receives ability to shoot tiny barbs with muscle relaxant from wrists.
He determines humans aren’t special
He is decently objective. They become similar and close enough to become romantically involved. They reach point when they are about even.
They get a big ship. Generally recognized "defeat" of the Republic.
They make it so they can share their experiences directly.
Ludin realizes there is no right way to be. Becomes like early Ulyphia. Ludin no longer can be said to have any firm beliefs. Because of the constant effect of emotions, it’s seen that it’s necessary to actually change completely (and not a little, as planned).
Part 3: Later Part/advan ced Period
She decides that it’s time to stop being so mortal and foray to more drastic actions.
(Lasts a very long
They truly can be said to sync, often running parallel from this point.
Ludin stops thinking of accepting help meaning possession.
Ludin also decides that it’s time to foray into really drastic changes and actions. Self-Forced Regression. They become full-on godly.
Part 4: Last Part/Ultima te Period
(Lasts evermore, without an end, ad infinitum)
(Lasts evermore, without an end, ad infinitum)
Incidents and Such
A symbol is blamed wrongly. There are two ambitious (and equally dislikable) men. The protagonists come in between and mess them up.
At one point, Uliphya has had a relationship with a man that gets very serious. It’s almost serious. He gets a chance to do s instantly makes up her mind not to go into the permanent long-term commitment. The thing is that she knows love can fade
A hologram says, “A semblance of neurons make what you consider living intelligence. I’m a semblance of images, but if the The definition and the way to act toward life is different depending on the nature of the life form being approached. A comp The previous owners said they hated it when the parts of their mechanisms stopped working, especially when they did it del Sometime Ulyphia has a severe thing: “Endless walking; sensed mind fading; fell into mental oblivion; did crazy things; mind
Someone notes of them: “Such people. You know so much yet you haven’t escaped the basest desires, and you are so conce
Character is happy that he doesn’t remember anything about his identity. There have been times when I felt weird about my this sort of feeling, or it might be unhappy about who it was and have wished for this. “I don’t know, but I’m happy about th
“You don’t understand!” “Believe me, I have plenty of understanding. I have considered everything and I’m confident in how I’ve decided to look at it
"You have impressed me with your abilities. We were enemies, but I want to ask you to join us." Ludin would respond negati
Brain of a dumber animal put into robot or humanoid body. Point is, it’s suddenly smart but has the same mind. This creature is mammalian.
They contend with a conditioned radical. The odds are about even, but they win because they learned things
She was walking though the shop. She saw nothing interesting at all. The most interesting thing here happened in her head. same stuff running along the same rules, so what is really different about a supernova compared to this moment?”
"There are always people using you." In some way, this is true for everyone. Manipulation exists in many ways and is always
Sees leaders of the good guys praying “Are these bad people?” Sometime, he is helping a nation that is fighting a dictator na sees them have a group prayer and hymn.
”Can your science explain that?” “No acceptable explanations have some up yet, but it is only a matter of time. Also, I want to ask you if your religion can e Person loves somebody dislikeable, like a nerd liking a cool kid. The thing is that the love is considered unconditional, sin
People making him misjudge by convincing him to look at knowledge as “knowing” instead of “thinking”, the opposite of wh
A few times Ludin is in a tight situation in which an enemy has grabbed a stranger and holds him/her hostage. The three are which other shows might conveniently find a way out of the dilemma from an external source, and so the protagonist doesn heroes might choose the honorable path and surrender, when they should logically be shot as a consequence. Ludin doesn’t as cover and shoot him) or he could go for a headshot. The results of either could be regrettable. The situation could repeat enemy at mercy. Then again, if those were functional, he might not get into that situation in the first place.) This could al changed.)
Sometime, Ludin uses the muscle-relaxant thing in his wrists and people think that person died. He later lear
A leader of a small, dangerous group says to step back and look at them without bias, supposing that he himself is unbiased do with faulty reasoning. I see the same scheme that has practically destroyed the human race many times over in the past.” “It’s really quite easy to predict the future once you ‘get it’, and then you and anybody else who can do it become very sign correctly.”
Imagined a scene where Ludin is behind some global scheme that changes a lot of things, and because of his misleading abili themselves somewhere to change a world.
“You could have done so much with it. Such a power, and you use it for your simple ideals. Fools like you will never know, Lu
A bored long-living person has nothing to do and wants to pursue the same course of life as the protagonist pair. This sort of would think of it.
The protagonists break though their natural limitations. At some point, a character tries to have Ludin overcome one of his ( Some character brings up the point during a later part that if you will forgive others for anything, why don’t you let yourse others do it. A story that portrays them as bad guys in the narrator’s point of view. They are misfits. For example, Ludin would be his for As a little thing, Gil has Ludin in a self-contained area. She creates something that just keeps getting bigger and bigger, no m
How far should respect for beliefs extend? How much does it for them? Will they tolerate and not infringe and not try to cha “Look at the enthusiasm and passion.” “That means absolutely nothing as to how correct they are.”
“That means absolutely nothing as to how correct they are.” In the middle stage: “It’s coming. Take that weapon,” “You want me to do it because you claim to be too good too. So it’s okay if I do this, but not you?” “Look, it’s my failure. I try as I can.” Sympathizing with someone killed, thinking of self as becoming that person. “It was more than me that killed him. Lies, his thoughts, other’s wants, my will to live; everything came together and it hap Maybe the first time Ulyphia kills somebody.
“I think it says something about you when you can be friends with your enemies later.” “That I’m gullible?” “No. That you’re open-minded. That you’re forgiving. It’s good.”
‘What if I am stopped by a cop? If I can’t come up with a good explanation, won’t they arrest or kill me?” “Well, if they are the sort of cops who kill you if they don’t know who you are, don’t worry about giving them mercy. If they
“Maybe someday I’ll be a hero. They will know me well.” “That’s very unlikely. Nobody is remembered forever in this universe except *name+.” “Why?” “This person was a post-human who deliberately affected the universe to not be an illusion. Since then, it’s endured among t “Why do you call this person ‘it’?” “Well, it was born female, but after changing so much she didn’t fit gender labeling. Seemed somewhat male later.”
“You are still so conservative. You’re like an animal that wants to be in his home environment, even though thigns are so mu
“Do you actually think they will carry their end of the bargain? This can’t work.” “I know. I won’t either. No matter what tolerable possibilities happen, their future is hopeless anyway.” Arrangements happen between protagonists and antagonists often where they both have things that they need. The antago
She said “If you’re so unsatisfied, wouldn’t it be easier and better to just make yourself happy?” He thought about it for a minute, perhaps working it out. “You mean I should decide to feel better about it?” “I’m asking why you don’t.” “Because it’s a terrible idea.” “Why?” “Well, I think there are a lot of reasons. First, the more I do that the worse I’ll allow things to get. It will just be igno “So do you want to trust your feelings?”
“You like her?”
Trapped in a metal thing. It’s like a bus or shuttle or something. Some noisy thing is on the top, and they get it by being c
“Are you an escaped primitive?” “Are you a coward?” “I don’t know. What do you call a coward?” “Look, just because your threatening to kill me if I don’t do this doesn’t give me the proper incentive. How can you prove to “This child isn’t going to keep quiet. You have to scare him. Let him know the full gravity of the situation.”
“I don’t understand these people. I call them people, but I think of them as the true gods. They are also so great. They are “Nobody is better than anybody.” “I visited a slaughterhouse once. I sympathized a lot with the animals.”
Loves a woman, but during the course of events she's shown to be very empty and undeserving. Charles Dickens probably w
“She changes a lot. It’s not sudden, but she seems like different women at some times.” “It’s a long-term physical reaction to stimulus. You’ve probably notices she seems more female at some time It’s a part of their flexibility. It offends at times. At a time when their lives are in danger, an advanced person brings up a question. “Do you think you should exist, or do you simply have the desire to exist?” Much later, someone tries to kill them by making it so they fail to exist. Maybe the antagonist. Ulyphia mentions once that she is doing something for the purpose of showing off, and a discussion comes up from that. Someone says of fate: “You can’t leave the train. Leaving the train is deadly. You can’t derail the train, this is obviously against the design. Yo
Talks to a river
They don’t understand or know as much in the beginning and early parts and neither do the readers. There is a lot of ambigu “Nobody will hate you for not helping. You can’t be expected to be a crusader. Nobody wants you to be a crusader.” “Long-term changes already in you, but it is delayed because you take time to get to like it.” “It’s all just so temporary.” Same sense given on the ship and on more permanent-feeling places.
The future people tell a story, sort of a fable of their own. It’s about a person who gets things done. The entire thing, she ignores. The ultimate point of her efforts is basically an anticlimax.
There are times when safety precautions end up being too safe, and others get hurt, as in a virus they don’t want to spread t
Gilthoniel: “There is a problem at my level, and maybe in the higher ones. As it is, we must cease to exist in the very far future.” Infi today. Everything will inevitably fail.
“Everything will inevitably fail. There is no perfection, and nothing has ever existed for eternity. In infinite time, all od “What of heaven itself?” “If there is any chance of failure, then given an eternity it is certain to fail.” They gain a little something from every experience.
“If all is neutral and there is no ‘should’, then what do I do? Do I decide based on objectives? There is no ‘should’ to my o so what will it be? Also, perhaps objectives are for those who have common life. So what will mine be? I still don’t know. I Undecided with the whole “freedom” thing “Maybe you should go on for now as you will, and then after more discovery you’ll know what you want to do.”
There is a desperate situation where it look like they have to eat each other to survive. Among the extreme ways people star
There is a desperate situation where it look like they have to eat each other to survive. Among the extreme ways people star hands.
A character thinks of Ulyphia as masculine because of her animal-like qualities and strength. He never had a father, and at so
“How can you be so certain that he will survive?” (Cheerily) “Why, I just know!” “(Moans) How inspirational…”
“The landslide only injured the people in the house, thank god!” “If you are going to thank god, then you should naturally bl Known as the unlucky by some primitive people because they don’t attribute things to luck.
Some place is hazardous because of small automatic beam weapons meant to kill nuisance animals. They are minor threats t
“Did you hear her scream back there? I didn’t think she could ever make a noise like that.” I think she looked like was subdu
“If everybody was represented by 1000 people in one room, who would we be?” “The ones in the back. Because we would b
Somebody acts mysterious to them, giving them specific advice and such mysterious things. Ulyphia, like other Barreners mig
Somebody makes sarcastic remarks and ones in which he mockingly uses the terminology the people he doesn’t like would u
In early part, there should definitely be examples of Knight Templar-type characters who would seem to be o In reality, both sides are usually Knights Templar. “I seek to atone for a robot I killed.” “It was a bad robot.” “Just the same.”
Someone says to Ulyphia that she can’t see other men while seeing him, but she says that she let him.
Conversations with own copies. “I want criticism. Tell me how to be.” “It doesn’t really matter if you’re wrong or right.” Someone demands he do penance for something he did, and even though he’s an atheist he does it anyway. Wants to kill basically any authorities, thinking them all bad. Point is made that killing them randomly will just let more f and blindly hateful.
Main-Protagonist's Timeline
Incidents
Both are born Grand Plot Vendetta Agent
Transition period on advanced world
Black Hole World State of Transition Right, Wrong, and Otherwise The Mortal Gods Nasty Surprise Young Justice Real Disaster Chaotic Progress Caused by Ignorance SETTING: The Stateless Land (Primitive Communisim) They meet some deity-people and they are messed with What Matters? They Are Also Wrong
EVENT: Person insists they think of a reason for everything.
Students Teaching
pecific tradition, r type of history).
umans aren’t special
Overdue Country The Great and True Prophet Sajam Quest Thing
Really significant event
changing can start. e solemn, depressed, quiet one.
Learns/realizes the more significant impications of reality
OCCURRENCE: A bunch of characters are visiting somebody and doing ordinary things. They are gu inside. They are caught by surprise. In the middle of the room is just a table with a gun. They are left al is that it’s a test. The Passenger The lesbian pair have somethigng done in which they can each see through the other's eye.
o be less flexible on.
“I don’t have to latch on to some way of thinking. It’s likely that nobody has been completely right yet. that someone out there has already found wisdom already. I don't pretend to be right, and I don't insist t
y, but still good guy. The same people fight each other Alien Aspect You Can be Happy
CHAR: Some person whose family dies and who has other tragedies takes a long time to understand th and the universe/god is specifically against him. Sometime antagonist that travels with them. Same people, different format
CHAR: “Humanity is strife.” Somebody might think it’s inhuman to lose all need to do anything. This cuts off from the society of origin. An Imponderable One Their Own
ning about cunning.
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong CHAR: Some of the most interesting antagonists are the kinds that have something mortally against th but the kinds that simply feel that for some reason the protagonist simply must die, such as honor, or a Meet the Republic The New Boss CHAR: They meet an Übermensch
he explicit price, but s some kind of price In Good Company SETTING: Conservative adv. Soc. “Our tech is right.”
SETTING: A sincerely stable and excellent society would be one in which all threats outside of thems the only threats are from within. … A character’s face changes all the time. If a character or people are like this in first advanced society, “I knew these people were untrustworthy treacherous.”
lic for the first time.
CHAR/OCCURRENCE: One character they pick up is a pure alien whose species has expanded fairl the time that this being is one of the type that goes on to continue species. One original species they contact with might be a tree lizard. It can slink around like some sort of shadowy monster. It can dart around very quickly, and i Inventing new species that supposedly don’t come from terrestrial interference is hard.
The characters think of them as having finished already, but don’t realize until later that it is an exampl surely done for humans in their past.
OCCURRENCE : At a place they visit, someone they know shows them the huge industrial place he works. His simple p absolutely hates the sort of thing they are doing there. (From earlier in the story) “Please don’t get angry at that.” "I’m not angry. I’m unhappy with the person, and I’m annoyed. I’m different from this when I’ Later, is committing arson or something. “What are you doing?” “I’m angry.”
Lethal Kindness CHAR: Nice Warrior Guy They get involved in that, and they also further antagonize the Republic.
CHAR: Sometime, there can be an old-fashioned type of sci-fi hero. One quality could be that he has a Spies in space
CHAR: They meet an independent type of individual who creates a structure in the middle of space so … Character involved in issues: “I don’t believe in fate, but I do believe in doom.” It’s determinism. CHAR: Person living multiple lives as different animals. Memories of previous ones still exist, but the remembering how things work and skills. His base thing is a sort of blob of information that can move plant itself into undeveloped bodies. It can have its memories and full consciousness as this. Ludin’s Religion “What you are told to do and what you learn to do is different.” All Heroes Die The Overlord
ed and what is true.
OCCURRENCE: Somebody says they and the rest of their people are fully aware and happy that they people as pitiful and wrong. Although it’s rather good of them to care like that, wanting to change othe
A CHAR’s story intersects with theirs: Some character is tossed among many different people for years, and they all try to teach her their own
At some point, maybe they could intentionally try to form their own culture. (They would already deve societies, they do not develop their ways from a trial-and-error or survival of the fittest basis. It’s all th A Measure Taken for Love Overgame
om their captain.
They both just feel like it's time to leave. Ludin feels a little uncomfortable sine the beginning, though then he hthat he would except that he doesn't want to do it alone. Ulyphia feels like it's time for her to do this with m with. This may be amiable or hostile. He may kick them out for anger or because it’s good for them. They may decid
Maybe one reason they leave is that they are very unhappy about the inactive attitudes of their teachers The Good Rebellion
SOCIETY: Believes in personal relativism, saying that the deep things about how one should act shou Another character: “If everything is judged based on the individual decision, what if I am indecisive or “Right is decided by the base units.” Unbeatable Aliens
OCCURRENCE: At some point, a person says to Ludin that they accept him for the bad things he’s d happy unless it’s forgiven.
uy for the first time.
OCCURRENCE: She catches something that changed her dramatically, and never healed completely. The Marooned SETTING: They are involved in a place going through transition. “Collective Knowledge System” Early step in collective mind. There are all good guys.
They meet Gilthoniel
“When I affect your life, then in effect you are mine, because I am responsible for the events your life g Another Argument with Godly Beings A being, no matter how powerful, is not divine.
Odd structure > Different important things in a country being controlled by specifically different and c When he hears from Gilthoniel that humans have been locked in countless cycles of history repeating,
istence of perfection
OCCURRENCE: They are trusted to affect a planet. They brought it on themselves, volunteering for Someone mentions "As soon as you land on this planet, it becomes special. Not necessarily for reasons
In something I read about, there is the premise that either you lose and your universe is destroyed or yo “This isn’t a very logical way” They have all the time they want “Why would you choose us?” A Tradgedy of Living CHAR: Gidge Quixole (who has an idealized woman he wants to produce)
CHAR: One character always changes self mentally to adapt to things. Most people learn to act certain this one never was cemented and changes outlook and behavior and such often. How would this charac person?
CHAR: One character always changes self mentally to adapt to things. Most people learn to act certain this one never was cemented and changes outlook and behavior and such often. How would this charac person?
ISSUE: “Consider the implications if all meaning is produced.” It is, of course. Almost everyone goes something greater than everything else; divine. It’s something vicious, how they set themselves up so t involving this. Heads vs. Tails
gence and goes bad. Absolute Freedom Übermensch My Perfect Leftist Society Someone
thers as for himself.
tion of no killing.
There are alien invaders; the populace is helped by other aliens; it turns out the invaders are good and t One of the first they meet is an easily influenced, easygoing hick.
ISSUE: He has to consider when something is not quite the same as himself but not something else either
rather decisive and victed future person. e of mystical things.
CHAR: A character captures the anxieties people have about time. It is used to time being immobile an
elaxant from wrists.
ISSUE: “You can’t say that freedom is the only way to be.” Should go literal and make people who violently enforce freedom in others. They are not stringent at al I'm Wondering Who Could be Writing This
umans aren’t special The Relevancy of Existence
Staring Through Fire
s decently objective. At first for a long while they are aware of how close they are and that they love each other. Ludin is recovered from low point; Ulyphia is down from high point. In Bygone Times The Pursuit of Finality
mantically involved.
hey are about even.
They get a big ship.
at" of the Republic. Gilthoniel has them raise an offspring.
experiences directly.
Some interesting things might be swapping one eye with someone, and having it so that eye lets you se
They take someone with them for a while. This person is shown how crazy he is. Later, he is back and “I must’ve been crazy. I was in some sort of world where we weren’t special, and there were all sorts o Second imitation-god Premise
Ludin glimpses a life where Gilthoniel lets him live in her universe with purpose and meaning, but den
They go to a sort of heaven and hell. It’s ruled by two powerful godly people, who happen to be very o
A couple of people live simply and comfortably forever. “Look at them. They will never change.” Regu like early Ulyphia.
ave any firm beliefs. “Do you realize you got angry there?”
Transition to more versatile beings
y to actually change a little, as planned).
more drastic actions.
Loss of Memory
In the infinite multiverse, they separated. There are exact duplicates to be found, but neither can get ov concerned for the individual.
Maybe a character dies, and someone can’t do anything to bring the person back. Instead, they get an a universe.(someone else, though).
llel from this point.
In a late point, they are in an artificial universe. It was created by one person intending to lock himself that he was unwilling to do what was necessary, and did this so he could exist for as long as possible. W ones.
Denies one from trying to condense his universe to a singularity and recreating it exactly, because it wo
They visit their worlds hundreds of years in their future. The future Homeworld has lots of gears and machinery everywhere in a way that functionally makes it Also in their future, they finally have expanded so much that the entire world is under their control. Be Even if the Barrener people are lost to assimilation, the race would probably be preserved through the s The new Homeworlders compared to the old ones are like a different species in an evolutionary line. L Barren evolved really fast. People always reconsidered things, so social revolutions came easy. Also, it The Planet Barren is not the same as it once was. It’s been changed a lot by technology. Also, it’s peop Because the primary adaptations of the Barreners allow them to change quickly, pretty much any plans
They visit a place where they see the realism of fairness. A totally fair world would be completely flat, developed at all). (Critical because of exchanges with godly people.)
meaning possession.
In one situation, everybody is, in some way, wrong. The protagonist characters could choose whicheve choose opposing sides.
hanges and actions.
-Forced Regression.
come full-on godly.
Transition to mythical-type beings
In some part, there is a young person on a quest or something (like LOTR), and the two of them are my They search for a way to and secure their existence very firmly.
ess them up.
s. He gets a chance to do s ome sort of long-term commitment that could be very good for him. He doesn’t want to do it if it means she do that she knows love can fade over time, and so a long-term thing like that is totally impossible to consider.
mblance of images, but if the en d product is identical what is the difference?” Explore the definition of life. m being approached. A compu ter projection is another one. Perhaps to thicken, there is an AI with its own mind running it, making it consi specially when they did it delibe rately.
ivion; did crazy things; mind went back, still remember everything.”
desires, and you are so concerned wi th being the right person that you fail to actually be a good person.”
es when I felt weird about myself , like it’s hard to comprehend the idea of identity. It would be nice to look at myself from the outside. This now, but I’m happy about th is.”
how I’ve decided to look at it .”
" Ludin would respond negativel y, while the nemesis would respond positively. the same mind.
n because they learned things much better than h e did.
here happened in her head. As she thought about the universe and it’s oddities, she realized “Why is any moment considered more extrao d to this moment?”
s in many ways and is always p resent. The protagonists see this eventually and later get away from that eventually.
n that is fighting a dictator na tion (a clear war, like Axis vs Allies). He is present when leaders of that nation and an ally meet. Although he b
k you if your religion can e xplain the change from day to night, how the Internet works, or how diseases work.”
idered unconditional, sin ce there is no clear reason why they should. The truth turns out to be something sad, like that person being attra
hinking”, the opposite of which b eing something that he was encouraged to do early on.
m/her hostage. The three are a lone and both armed (If Ulyphia is there as well, she might dart out of the picture to find an advantageous p and so the protagonist doesn’t ha ve to resolve the dilemma. In the first case, Ludin might reason: “I don’t even know this person. The ques consequence. Ludin doesn’t take that risk. He would either make a standoff to be solved by external forces (which would put him at a big e. The situation could repeat itself later, except that I see them as being more prepared and knowledgeable (Ludin’s implanted wrist thing first place.) This could al so be visited again in a situation artificially created by Gilthoniel. (Maybe just write this as a standalone story in w
hat person died. He later learn they buried him alive. He gets these to avoid killing anyone, but it happens anyway.
g that he himself is unbiased a nd therefore right. Instead, it’s said “I see a group of disheartened people, who are being led by one man to many times over in the past.”
can do it become very sign ificant factors in the universe. Only those with the greatest skill in it can manage to make more than one signif
ecause of his misleading abiliti es he walks through a bunch of reporters and other people who think somebody else is behind everything. T
s like you will never know, Lu din.”
protagonist pair. This sort of t hing would fundamentally be the opposite. He’s done and consigned and wants to start again. Pretty differe
Ludin overcome one of his ( newer, more sophisticated) convictions and kill a random, innocent person.
g, why don’t you let yourse lf do it? It’s what you let others do compared to what you let yourself do. It’s called hypocritical to prevent your
mple, Ludin would be his for giving self, but there are ways to look at my people as bad.
ting bigger and bigger, no matter how close you get. It’s supposed to be unsettling, but Ludin points out that it can’t be dangerous if it can
ot infringe and not try to chan ge beliefs on weather a camera will steal your soul when your picture is taken? What about when people be
g came together and it hap pened just so.”
ut giving them mercy. If they aren’t, just let them do what they want and let them take you in. We’ll take care of you after that.”
ce then, it’s endured among the s uper advanced and many others.”
mewhat male later.”
ven though thigns are so muc h better here.”
s that they need. The antagonists ar e often treacherous. Realistically, the best thing is that protagonists are also clever.
ter about it?”
t. It will just be igno ring.”
and they get it by being c lever.
ntive. How can you prove to me that you won’t do it once I’ve told you?”
are also so great. They are so much better than I.”
. Charles Dickens probably wrote s omething like this before.
ms more female at some times compared to others . The response responds most strongly to stress. Short term instances pushes toward m
sion comes up from that.
against the design. Yo u can only hope someone else switches it for you.”
ders. There is a lot of ambiguit y and confusion and things still unknown.
ou to be a crusader.”
one. The entire thing, she doesn’t fight at all, but she prevails by being well informed and correct. In the obstacles involving other people, s
s they don’t want to spread t o them.
the very far future.” Infi nite life means infinite chance of eventual destruction. Either it must be made so there is no chance at all, or it’s i
In infinite time, all od ds will occur, and everything will cease to maintain itself.”
ere is no ‘should’ to my o bjectives, so will they be whatever I decide they will be? Will they be based on emotion, or reason? If they are ba ine be? I still don’t know. I still don’t understand those advanced people, and their ultimate reasons for anything.”
ou want to do.”
he extreme ways people start to act, Ulyphia (who may be the most physically dangerous there) says “The right way to do this is a debate.
he extreme ways people start to act, Ulyphia (who may be the most physically dangerous there) says “The right way to do this is a debate.
never had a father, and at some point she seems like a father figure to him for her maturity.
then you should naturally bl ame him as well.”
mals. They are minor threats to hum ans, but their danger grows with numbers.
k she looked like was subdu ing some embarrassment as she walked by.
he back. Because we would be leavin g.”
phia, like other Barreners might be, isn’t unnecessarily scared (but still smartly suspicious)
eople he doesn’t like would use, an d the Homeworlers don’t get it.
cters who would seem to be on the good side but are too carried away. Later, these sorts are more obviously seen as bad guys.
es it anyway.
domly will just let more f ill there place, and killing a good one accidentally will probably let a worse one move in. There are other reasons
ordinary things. They are guided into a room and the door is locked with just them e with a gun. They are left alone for hours, without any input from outside. The idea
the other's eye.
as been completely right yet.” It’s something others rarely seem to consider, thinking o be right, and I don't insist that I am yet. I'll go by some rules yet.
a long time to understand that these things just happen. Thinks it’s a special case
all need to do anything. This person would be one of the deviants that separates and
omething mortally against the protagonists, but don’t act like barbaric hateful types, must die, such as honor, or a general code of how things must be.
h all threats outside of themselves are defused or otherwise effectively harmless, and
e people were untrustworthy, but wow.”…”Further proof that women are
e species has expanded fairly far and then seemingly finished. They don't realize at
rt around very quickly, and it is flexible like a cat. al interference is hard.
ntil later that it is an example of the individuals that carry on species, as people have
lace he works. His simple place is getting taken advantage of. Besides this, Ludin
m different from this when I’m angry.”
quality could be that he has a techno-fix for everything.
ure in the middle of space so that he can live independently.
om.” It’s determinism. vious ones still exist, but they are submerged. They come up in ways, like f information that can move like a mobile slime/gas that can inhabit empty bodies or ciousness as this.
y aware and happy that they will inevitably die. The protagonists think of these that, wanting to change others based on how you think is less than perfect.
all try to teach her their own different views and such. Something all of them say is
e. (They would already develop a unique one of their own without trying.) Unlike of the fittest basis. It’s all their own choices.
he beginning, though then he feels bette rin the middle, and then now it surges enoug time for her to do this with more freedom, and when she says so to Ludin he wants to go
ood for them. They may decide it’s time to leave.
ve attitudes of their teachers, letting absolute disasters happen.
out how one should act should be left to individuals. n, what if I am indecisive or of split mind?”
him for the bad things he’s done, but then he isn’t happy about that, because he’s not
nd never healed completely.
ble for the events your life goes on to take.”
y specifically different and conflicting interests, such as most of the economy being controlled by business, the media controlled
cycles of history repeating, he wants to break the cycle and unite everybody so the human race can be said to succeed. She under
hemselves, volunteering for it. . Not necessarily for reasons of it's people or history, but because it's the one you are on. Now your position on it changes." Used
r universe is destroyed or you win and someone else’s is destroyed.
st people learn to act certain ways as kids and continue acting so their whole life, but ften. How would this character act if it ended up going into the position of a god-
st people learn to act certain ways as kids and continue acting so their whole life, but ften. How would this character act if it ended up going into the position of a god-
urse. Almost everyone goes the entirety of their lives needing to believe they are w they set themselves up so they must believe it so. Many stories can be told
the invaders are good and the aliens helping are bad; one of these groups is the protagonists.
not something else either
ed to time being immobile and still. When it comes and sees time constantly moving forward, it gets very anxious. Such a thing w
. They are not stringent at all. He is very interested in these people.
love each other.
ving it so that eye lets you see what’s in the other person’s eye. It would be very revealing, I think.
he is. Later, he is back and thinks that it can’t be real. al, and there were all sorts of other things, and everything was so upside-down.”
urpose and meaning, but denies it. Living for a more powerful being does is not real meaning.
le, who happen to be very opposite as they work. Among the things revealed are what makes a deity.
hey will never change.” Regular humans probably wouldn’t have any drive in this case. They were not taught anything when youn
ound, but neither can get over that it is not the actual same person. They are
back. Instead, they get an alternate version of that person from another
n intending to lock himself away so he could avoid ever dyeing. He says at one point xist for as long as possible. Welcomes his death, as it is among the better possible
ting it exactly, because it would still not be the same thing
ay that functionally makes it one big machine. rld is under their control. Before, they didn’t take over that last fourth or so because it wasn’t a bother and they were doing fine w y be preserved through the spread of their genes. The advanced societies would probably be interested in preserving history, so t es in an evolutionary line. Ludin’s people were like Cro-Magnons. volutions came easy. Also, it’s diversity didn’t drop with progress. y technology. Also, it’s people have been very spread out. ckly, pretty much any plans to overcome them fail, making them very durable as a race.
d would be completely flat, and everybody would develop exactly equally (if they
ters could choose whichever side suits them best. Maybe the two mains could
and the two of them are mythical, casual figures.
want to do it if it means she doesn’t go with him, but she has a so-be-it attitude and
mind running it, making it considerable as a sub-mind.
t myself from the outside. This character might like having no idea who it is because of
oment considered more extraordinary than any other? Everything in the universe is the
nd an ally meet. Although he believes they are the good guys, his views change when he
ad, like that person being attractive or something like that.
ure to find an advantageous position form out of sight.) This is one of those things in en know this person. The question is over who’s life will be lost. Hers or mine?” Other (which would put him at a big disadvantage, because the opponent could use the hostage (Ludin’s implanted wrist thing would allow him to just spray them both and then have the this as a standalone story in which he repeats it in every outcome and with every factor
o are being led by one man to blame others and who excuses the things he wants them to
to make more than one significantly consequential change and still predict the future
ody else is behind everything. The scheme of the story may be that they again imposed
ts to start again. Pretty different from the younger protagonists. Think of how Dr. Who
ed hypocritical to prevent yourself from doing things that are considered tolerable when
t it can’t be dangerous if it can never reach him. “You’re no fun.”
? What about when people believe they should destroy everybody else in the universe?
e of you after that.”
also clever.
rm instances pushes toward more male behavior, and long term pushes toward female.”
tacles involving other people, she copes with, compromises with, goes around, turns, or
here is no chance at all, or it’s infinite. It’s a rather simple thing to realize, but I didn’t until
otion, or reason? If they are based on reason, then they are moot. I’m free to do as I will,
ight way to do this is a debate.” Later, she decides on her own and takes it into her own
ight way to do this is a debate.” Later, she decides on her own and takes it into her own
y seen as bad guys.
e in. There are other reasons for telling him not to do it, such as being particularly unfair
y business, the media controlled by social scientists, all development by the scientists, government itself by volunteers. Fodder fo
an be said to succeed. She understands much better than he does that it’s pointless, but she concedes he will learn the futility of t
ur position on it changes." Used in a story in which they have to make critical decisions affecting a planet.
gets very anxious. Such a thing would practically make it insane.
re not taught anything when younger, they sort of started existing.
other and they were doing fine without taking it over. rested in preserving history, so they might take genetic histories of the group.
nt itself by volunteers. Fodder for conflict.
des he will learn the futility of that in time. Later it comes to him that it’s actually sort of evil to do that, as it’s so imposing.
do that, as it’s so imposing.