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Virginia Williams:   How long have you all been here?

Panel:               It‟s the second day – the last day.

Virginia Williams:   The second day? You all were on set all day yesterday too?

Panel:               No, we did Psych yesterday with USA.

Virginia Williams:   Oh, right on. Scary. It‟s official, [inaudible] In Style makeover.

Panel:               How do you know one of us doesn‟t write for In Style makeover?

Virginia Williams:   I‟m sorry. They have really cool hairdos. I‟m always looking in a – we
                     have a wall of inspiration in the make-up trailer for all of Lauren‟s
                     incredible hairstyles. They change every day, and they‟re always really
                     elaborate. So we always tear out fun pictures and post them up there.

Panel:               Yeah, I was really impressed with the outfits they had in the pilot, so.

Virginia Williams:   Oh, yeah.

Panel:               So for both yourself and Sarah.

Virginia Williams:   Good, yeah, the wardrobe‟s incredible – our wardrobe is, I mean –

Panel:               Do you get amazing shoes too?

Virginia Williams:   I do, I do. These are my personals. These were my aunts in the „50s,
                     actually – or „60s.

Panel:               I like those a lot.

Virginia Williams:   These are, like, true original Fryes from 100 years ago. But Lauren gets
                     incredible stuff. All my stuff‟s, like, Hugo Boss. I don‟t think I wear
                     anything under, about, two grand. I‟m serious. They‟re outstanding. I‟m
                     always in Manolo‟s – she‟s dressed to the nines.

Panel:               Yeah, because Sarah had the Labode [ph] [indiscernible] – or the – I can‟t
                     pronounce it.

Virginia Williams:   I know, I know – yeah, yeah. She had – we both get great wardrobe. And
                     she was in there – they do a really good job of keeping it very – keeping
                     us very distinct. Even in my wardrobe fitting today I saw something and I
                     was, like, “Oh, that could work.” And she was like, “Well, you know, we
                     really keep – ” Lauren‟s always in dresses. Always in super skinny, A- I
                     mean, not A-line – super skinny, like, very fitted dresses, and Kate‟s
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                     always in an A-line, or a pant. Lauren doesn‟t wear – Lauren only wears
                     the pants metaphorically. She doesn‟t wear pants on the show. Always in a

Panel:               Do you feel like you‟re – when you get the wardrobe on, does it feel like
                     you finally sort of get into the character? Does the wardrobe help you, sort
                     of, get there?

Virginia Williams:   Absolutely. I‟m very involved in my wardrobe. I always have it in my
                     contracts and everything that I can have a say in what happens. Because I
                     find it informs me sometimes more than anything. I‟m big on the shoes,
                     and how I walk. A lot of actors want to take their shoe – their high heels
                     off for close ups. And poor Sarah, I won‟t – because it makes the height a
                     problem if one actor has them on, and one actor has them off. But I always
                     like to have them on when I‟m shooting it.

                     I mean, my posture, everything changes – everything just kind of falls in
                     when you have on the shoes, and the hair, and the makeup. But primarily,
                     the wardrobe, you feel how a suit fits. And you know it‟s tailored to your
                     body. And, I mean, I think Lauren has stylists, and they come to her house
                     and just fit her there, and she doesn‟t have time to shop. She‟s so busy –
                     that girl is so busy. She does not have time to shop, so. Yeah, I find it
                     informs my character a ton.

Panel:               Is it the same with couture that it would be, like, if you were playing a
                     doctor and you have a lab coat? You know, like, is it the same kind of
                     thing? Like, do you feel the same getting into the character –

Virginia Williams:   Yeah, absolutely.

Panel:               Like, a uniform versus a, you know, clothes that you might wear in your
                     real life.

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm, or something – absolutely. Or I play more of a hippie kind of
                     chick, it big time – I mean, my whole – I‟m an actor. So everything
                     changes, and my background is in theatre too. So I‟ve done a lot of vocal
                     work, and a lot of bodywork. And how I even sit talking to you guys this
                     is Ginger – my nickname – Virginia, talking to you guys. But if I were
                     dressed as Lauren right now it would automatically just inform exactly
                     how my posture would be, and where I sit, and how I sit, or. Yeah, yeah, I
                     find just the exact same thing. I‟m playing a vet, and I have on a lab coat,
                     or whatever – it kind of informs it.

Panel:               We had a really great Q & A with Michael Sardo first thing today.

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm.
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Panel:               And he said that when you came in you didn‟t play Lauren as a b*tch.

Virginia Williams:   Mm mm.

Panel:               Which was something that stood out for him. And so how do you
                     approach Lauren? What do you think drives her? We‟ve only seen the

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm.

Panel:               We know you‟re into sixth episode – [inaudible]

Virginia Williams:   We‟re on eight right now, but we haven‟t shot four.

Panel:               Okay. So but how do you feel the character growth, character motivation,
                     and you talked about being theatre trained – all of that‟s ingrained.

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm. Yeah, I‟m happy to address that. I never saw Lauren as a b*tch,
                     primarily because I didn‟t want to play the part if that‟s how she was
                     going to be. I wouldn‟t have taken the part if I thought she was just our
                     stereotypical, you know, second wife, trophy wife, gold digger. I didn‟t
                     find that interesting. It‟s been done 100 times before. I made the choice
                     that Lauren very much was in love with Teddy.

                     Of course then, as an actor, I‟ve come up with those reasons as to how I
                     could fall in love with a man so much older, and what my daddy issues
                     are, and all that kind of good stuff. But no, I think she adored him. They
                     were best friends. More than anything I think they really got each other,
                     and they were best friends. And she loved him. And I think that the only
                     person really that would ever refer to Lauren as a b-word would be Kate.
                     And you understand why Kate feels the way she does.

                     If my father and my mom split up and he ended up marrying someone my
                     age, I would be none too pleased. I would probably put her through the
                     wringer. So you understand why Kate can‟t stand Lauren so much. But
                     Lauren is motivated not by being mean, or b*tchy, or anything, she‟s just
                     motivated by winning. She needs to win. I kind of look at every scene I go
                     into I go, “Okay, how does Lauren win in this?” And when she doesn‟t
                     win, that‟s fun, and how does she react? And how does she ultimately get
                     her way? And she has lots of different tactics. Sometimes it‟s through a
                     smile, and sometimes it‟s through having to, you know –

Panel:               Bring the hammer down.
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Virginia Williams:   Yeah, bring the hammer down. But I think Lauren‟s just motivated by
                     winning and keeping the firm alive. This is her baby. She doesn‟t have any
                     children. So I look at the firm as my child. And that this is the thing I will
                     protect at all costs. And I do not have time for people who aren‟t doing
                     their job as efficiently, and effectively, and working as hard as I am.
                     That‟s how I kind of see it, yeah.

Panel:               How do you think Lauren looks at Kate, and how she views her and her

Virginia Williams:   I think – well, we find out a little bit later – I don‟t want to give away any
                     story points here – but I think Lauren and Spencer actually get along quite
                     well, and there‟s not a problem there. Lauren and Kate do not get along
                     very well, hence the conflict. And I think Lauren views Kate, to be
                     perfectly honest with you, I think Lauren views Kate as a spoiled little

                     I don‟t think Lauren – again, this hasn‟t been scripted, these are just my
                     choices – but I don‟t think Lauren grew up with tons of privilege and
                     wealth. I think she‟s worked her ass off to get where she‟s gotten. And I
                     think she sees Kate as someone who flies by the seat of her pants. And
                     yes, she always gets to come in and save the day at the last minute, but
                     she‟s had the luxury of this huge safety net to always fall back on. And so
                     I think Lauren resents that.

                     And actually Sardo made this analogy one time, and I found it quite a
                     propos. It‟s kind of like two sisters, and, you know, when one of them gets
                     to go off and backpack in Bali, and do whatever they want to do, and the
                     other one has to stay home with mom who has cancer. And it‟s kind of
                     like, “Well, I‟ve got to take care of the sick company here. I‟ve got to be
                     the one holding the reins or everything‟s going to fall apart.”

                     So Lauren has to – she always has to do the right thing, and she always
                     has to keep everything in line so that Kate can try her alternative methods
                     of fixing everything, and mediating. And Lauren‟s a lawyer – she‟s sees
                     things – she sees the world much more as black and white, whereas Kate
                     sees shades of grey. So just fundamentally different.

Panel:               I was going to say that I really like the scene in the pilot where you are
                     trying to maintain one of your clients, and the client propositions you.

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm.

Panel:               And there are a couple ways you could have played it. You could have
                     played it coy, and a little bit, “Oh, well maybe later,” and then walked off.
                     But instead you kind of – you played it with a lot of strength, yet emotion.
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Virginia Williams:   Thank you.

Panel:               I‟m talking clichés. But no, I mean, no, I really liked your performance in
                     that – I thought it was fabulous.

Virginia Williams:   Thank you.

Panel:               So I guess what did you do to decide to play it in that way as opposed to
                     playing it – well, you‟ve already talked about how you wanted to play
                     against stereotypes, but what made you decide to play that specific scene
                     that way, yes?

Virginia Williams:   Scene that way? Well, you know, as you said before, that I tend to look at
                     every scene and go, “Okay, what‟s the obvious choice here? What‟s the
                     very surface reading of it? And how do I do something different and more
                     interesting?” And it just seemed way more interesting to watch a woman
                     really struggle with that. And Lauren will save the firm at every cost, but
                     not at risk of her integrity.

                     She has – that‟s why it always – I find it funny when people say, “Oh,
                     she‟s the b*tch,” or, “She‟s the evil stepmom.” And I, “No she‟s not.” To
                     Kate she is, but no she‟s not. She has a ton of integrity. She has a very
                     strong sense of morality, and she does the right thing. And actually Lauren
                     always takes the high road.

                     I‟ve noticed – I was just noticing that in this past script. I was reading
                     something I actually say to another character, you know, “Take the high
                     road here.” And he says, “I get nosebleeds.” And I thought, you know
                     what, Lauren does always take the high road. She doesn‟t get snarky. She
                     doesn‟t get b*tchy. She just gets the job done, and she does her job
                     incredibly well.

                     Oh, she‟s so smart. She‟s 10,000 times smarter than I am. I love stepping
                     into her shoes every day. I go, “Oh my gosh, this woman is – she‟s
                     genius.” I mean, she speaks Mandarin for god‟s sake. She‟s so smart. And
                     she‟s just on top of it. And I read that scene, and I thought, yeah, it
                     absolutely could be played the way that you just said where it could be, all
                     right, I‟ll tease him a little bit – maybe later – to make sure that I get the
                     business. But she won‟t risk her integrity for business.

Panel:               Is it something to do with the lawyer part of her – the black and white part
                     of her – the rules – like, the rule follower?

Virginia Williams:   Yeah, I think so. I think she has –
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Panel:               [inaudible] is her coach.

Virginia Williams:   Uh huh, uh huh, absolutely. And I think Lauren has – again, this has not
                     been scripted – but I think Lauren has a really – she has a very strong
                     sense of self, and I think she has a strong sense of – I think she has a
                     strong sense of God. And she has a strong sense of doing the right thing.
                     And we don‟t know – I mean, I seriously doubt they‟re ever going to have
                     a scene where I‟m helping out in a soup kitchen.

                     Just because I don‟t know how they‟re going to, you know, in subsequent
                     seasons we‟ll see how they end up writing it. But I think Lauren absolutely
                     does. And if it‟s not through that – if it‟s not through acts of service in that
                     way, it‟s she‟s, I think, a big contributor financially to the organizations
                     she believes in.

Panel:               So would you say that Lauren and Kate have a symbiotic relationship? Do
                     they need each other to keep the firm going?

Virginia Williams:   I think yes. I think Lauren would like to think she doesn‟t need Kate, and I
                     think Kate would like to think she doesn‟t need Lauren.

Panel:               But she can do things as a mediator that you can‟t do.

Virginia Williams:   Precisely. She can do things as a mediator that we can‟t do. And more and
                     more mediations are happening now. Michael gave a – he‟d have to – he‟s
                     the statistic guy on this, but he gave a statistic I know when we were at the
                     TCAs about how many mediations there are per year, and how people are
                     really trying to use this before going into litigation. And I think that she‟s
                     a huge asset to the firm, absolutely. So yeah, I think Lauren knows that
                     Kate‟s an asset. She just wants her to do – she just wants her to show up to
                     work, and do it on time.

                     And of course I don‟t know – I don‟t think Lauren knows when Kate runs
                     off and is gone for five hours, it‟s like any employer. You‟d go, “Where
                     the heck is my employee?” Even if they have a valid excuse as to why
                     they were running after this person in a restaurant, and then they got this
                     information from their girlfriend, or whatever it is. You‟d go, “But you
                     need to be working. Why are you not here working?” Black and white.

Panel:               Does Lauren have friends at this time in her life? It‟s not meant to be
                     snarky, it‟s just –

Virginia Williams:   Yeah, no.

Panel:               She‟s grieving, she‟s got [inaudible] –
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Virginia Williams:   She is grieving.

Panel:               She‟s got her duty to the firm.

Virginia Williams:   Absolutely.

Panel:               Does she have a confidante? Does she have someone she drinks martinis
                     with and just, you know –

Virginia Williams:   I think right now at this point in the script, Lauren is incredibly lonely.
                     And I actually – it‟s one of the other reasons I love her so much, and I find
                     her actually quite loveable, and I hope that the audience can see some of
                     that tenderness too. Her best friend is gone. Her best friend has died.

                     And I think she definitely has friends, but I think this is a woman – and we
                     all know them. I mean, I have some really high-powered friends in the
                     finance world, and in some other worlds. That they‟re friends, but their
                     work is their number one priority. And I think Lauren is dealing with a lot
                     of her loneliness, and her pain in this situation by throwing herself even
                     more into the work. And that – which makes the stakes that much higher
                     in every scene, with every client – keeping everyone. Because this is what
                     she really has right now.

                     I mean, I hope down the line – she‟ll have a love interest eventually, and
                     she‟ll have – we‟ll see her out with some friends eventually, or hopefully a
                     sister, or mom, and get to see some of her, I think, crazy background
                     eventually. But I don‟t know, it‟s season one. But down the line I hope
                     that that happens. But to answer your question, I hope that wasn‟t a round
                     about answer, I think that right now – I think she does have friends, but I
                     think right now she‟s just really lonely.

                     I think she goes home – I don‟t even think she has a bottle of wine to
                     console her because she‟s so busy. She knows she‟s got to get up – I
                     mean, I think she‟s up by five, I think she jogs five miles. I think she
                     works out every morning, and is just go, go, go, go, go, because if she
                     stops, she‟ll think about it, and she‟ll fall apart.

                     And I actually like to try to play every scene like that – like there‟s a little
                     volcano. And it‟s always about to erupt, and you don‟t really know it‟s
                     going to. And she always pushes it back down. You‟ll see a glimmer of
                     the humanity come out, and her start to lose it, and she takes a breath, and
                     pushes it back down.

Panel:               I hope you‟ll see more of flashbacks of Teddy and Lauren‟s relationship –
                     like, how they met, and what they meant to each other, anything like that.
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Virginia Williams:   I don‟t think we‟re going to see any flashbacks. I think – his foreboding
                     pictures all over the walls are as much of him as we may see – the big oil
                     paintings. I doubt we‟ll do flashbacks. I‟m sure there will be references to
                     how they met. I mean, I think that this is – again, it‟s not scripted – but I
                     think that this was the first law firm that Lauren came to work for. And
                     that she did not pursue this, that he pursued her. And that it just kind of
                     happened. I think she was as surprised as anybody that she fell in love
                     with this man actually.

Panel:               That was actually going to be my second question, just for you in doing
                     character development, how did you envision Lauren? Because she‟s so
                     incredibly young, and she‟s not only a partner, she‟s, like, the sole partner
                     and sole owner of this law firm. And to have all of that power, how did
                     you envision her? Or if it‟s in the script, how did you envision her
                     achieving that since yes, clearly, she married the owner of it. But at the
                     same time, I mean, since she seems like such an incredibly proud
                     character, at the same time she wants the gold ring, but to marry someone
                     to achieve that gold ring doesn‟t seem like a part of her persona.

Virginia Williams:   Because I‟ve seen such a strong sense of self with her, I don‟t think that
                     she ever had grand plans to marry into this. Did Teddy‟s wealth and power
                     – were they things she found incredibly attractive? Absolutely. Did it
                     make him more attractive? Of course. He‟d be – I mean, if he were a
                     plumber, would she have fallen in love with him? Probably not. Let‟s be
                     honest here.

                     But that‟s the thing, that‟s what they had in common. They were both
                     really, really driven. They both loved the law. And I haven‟t even made
                     eye contact with you – you‟ve been hidden back there. Hi there. I don‟t
                     think she devised any grand plans to marry this guy. And, she was
                     surprised that she fell in love with him, and she‟s devastated that he‟s

                     I think she is, every day, in every way, constantly in fear that it could all
                     go away, and that‟s why she works so hard. She knows full well she is not
                     experienced enough yet really to be in this position. Is she smart enough?
                     Absolutely. Was she groomed for this? Absolutely. But another character,
                     another episode says – it‟s an outside law firm that wants to buy the firm –
                     you know, says, “You lack the experience.” And Lauren just says, you
                     know, “Get out of my office.” And they do.

                     But she knows it‟s true. She lacks the experience. But what she lacks in
                     experience she makes up for in gumption, and in dedication, and in smarts.
                     She‟s incredibly smart. And she‟s used to people not taking her seriously,
                     I think, because she‟s an attractive woman. And she doesn‟t ever use her –
                     we haven‟t ever seen her use her sexuality. Like you even said in that pilot
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                     scene she doesn‟t. She doesn‟t use her sexuality. But she does use her
                     charm, and her guile. She‟s got a lot of guile.

Panel:               Is she going to figure out what happens to the urn of ashes? Are they
                     going to all fight over who gets to keep them?

Panel:               [inaudible] scene in the pilot.

Virginia Williams:   That‟s so funny. That‟s so funny – that happens in the pilot, and then we
                     never hear of it again.

Panel:               Wow, that‟s just kind of –

Panel:               They‟re on the boat – if you want to know, they‟re on the boat.

Virginia Williams:   We never hear of it again. I think Lauren is really good at picking her
                     battles too. And there are some things where you just go, “Pick your
                     battles.” I think that she‟s probably just let this slide for a bit. And Lauren
                     – she has a heart. She understands that Kate lost her father. She
                     understands that she misses him too. She‟s not immune to that.

Panel:               What‟s her relationship with Leo like? Do you interact with him much?

Virginia Williams:   I do. I actually in this next episode, I get a couple scenes with Leo, and it‟s
                     the first time we ever see Lauren and Leo together. And they‟re really
                     funny, and they‟re really cute. It‟s a really cool little storyline that we have
                     going. At this point –

Panel:               They‟re together in the pilot.

Virginia Williams:   Pardon?

Panel:               They had interaction in the pilot.

Virginia Williams:   We interact, for sure – we interact every day.

Panel:               But not a real – oh, okay.

Virginia Williams:   It‟s never a conversation more than, “Where‟s Kate? Well, get her.” So we
                     do have some interaction just the two of us – a couple of scenes coming up
                     in episode eight, which is a lot of fun. At this point, Lauren‟s feelings
                     about Leo are that he‟s an assistant. And she knows full well that Kate and
                     Leo are cohorts. So I think she just doesn‟t trust either of them. She just
                     dismisses him. It‟s not that she‟s rude, or bitchy to him, she just – he‟s an
                     employee, you‟re here to serve a purpose. We‟re not friends.
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Panel:               Actually, I have a question – oh wait, does anyone else?

Panel:               You can go.

Panel:               Well, did you already go yet?

Panel:               Yep, go ahead.

Panel:               All right, well I guess I – well, I was just thinking about the difference
                     between theatre and TV. Where theatre you have the script, you have that
                     one character. And you try to continue to develop the character, but it kind
                     of ends after 150 pages. So how does that differ between TV where the
                     character is continuously evolving, and growing, and either you‟re adding
                     things, or the writers are adding things, so.

Virginia Williams:   Mm hmm. Well, it‟s a hell of a lot of fun. I mean, every time a new script
                     comes out it‟s like candy to me. I mean, I see it no matter where I am if it
                     comes out. I‟m like, “I don‟t have time. I‟ve got to get off the phone.”
                     Like, thumb through it – I love finding out what‟s going to happen. And
                     I‟ve been really fortunate that our writers have been, particularly Michael
                     Sardo, who‟s overseeing everything, has been very open to my input, and
                     to the way I‟ve played things.

                     I‟ll read something sometimes and think, “Huh. I‟m not so sure how I feel
                     about this.” But I can usually find a way to make it serve how I want to
                     portray her anyway. They‟re very good about – I call them parentheses
                     writing. The writers who put in parentheses every emotion you‟re
                     supposed to feel, or everything – she says as she storms out, “Whatever.”
                     And they‟ve been really good about with my character leaving that pretty
                     much out.

                     I‟ve really been able to interpret it how I want. And it‟s all in how you
                     play it – you may read something and that may sound sort of like a b*tchy
                     line in your head if you‟re reading it. But I don‟t read it that way. I think
                     how is she going to get her way here? And the way she‟s going to get her
                     way is to do it through a smile, or to make the other person think they‟re
                     getting what they want, you know.

Panel:               So she‟s like a mediator that way herself.

Virginia Williams:   Sure, yeah. Yeah, I think Lauren‟s actually a very good – she sees things
                     as black and white, for sure, and she loves the law. But she‟s always
                     juggling 15,000 things, so in that ways she‟s kind of mediating everything.
                     She has a lot more employees than Kate to deal with, you know.
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Panel:               Now do you hope that a lot of women watching the show can relate to
                     Lauren, because she is such a strong woman? Do you think she‟s more a
                     relatable strong woman? Whereas on some TV shows they‟re just like,

Virginia Williams:   That‟s been my hope. That‟s been the biggest challenge in playing Lauren
                     actually has been how do I make her someone that we don‟t love to hate,
                     but that we love to love. And I want the audience to always be a little bit
                     confused about how they feel about her. That would be my goal. If the
                     audience can watch this and go – and go from one scene of thinking, “Ah,
                     I don‟t like the way she handled that.” And then the next scene go, “But I
                     see why she did it.”

                     That‟s my biggest hope that people can watch this and see a really full
                     three-dimensional character. Because I‟m not given very much in terms of
                     I‟m always in the office. We haven‟t been able to see Lauren in a social
                     setting. We haven‟t been able to see her with her family. We haven‟t been
                     able to see her outside of the office. So it‟s a huge challenge trying to play
                     a really full three-dimensional character, but a very fun one.

                     I love this kind of work. I‟m the person that goes home and – I don‟t just
                     show up on set and go, “What scene are we doing today?” I work on it. I
                     write all my notes, and I think about it a lot. And I mull it over. And so
                     that‟s a really fun thing for me. And I hope that women can relate to her. I
                     think you‟re absolutely right that so often there‟s our good girl and our
                     bad girl, right?

                     We‟ve got our Eve and our Mary is what happens so often. And it‟s so
                     trite, and it‟s so un-dimensional, and so misogynistic. So many of these
                     male writers don‟t write for women well. And yeah, I hope that a lot of
                     women either in the corporate world or not in the corporate world can still
                     see her and relate to her. And like her, and see where she‟s coming from.
                     And yeah, and sometimes she has to lay down the hammer, and you‟re not
                     going to like it. But she‟s doing it for the end purpose.

Panel:               Yeah, Lauren‟s a lot like my mom. You know, the strong woman but, you
                     know, tries to get everything, but still has that heart.

Virginia Williams:   Yeah.

Panel:               Because I noticed that right away with her – I‟m like, oh that‟s exactly the
                     way my mom is, and that‟s a very good thing, I promise you.

Virginia Williams:   Oh good yeah. Well it‟s kind of like tough love. Sometimes Lauren‟s
                     tough love.
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Panel:               Exactly, exactly.

Virginia Williams:   And there are people she likes, and people she doesn‟t like – I mean, don‟t
                     get me wrong. There are going to people that she – she can be – oh, I was
                     going to say she can be dismissive of some of her employees, but I don‟t
                     really know that that‟s accurate. I think that only in so far as if she‟s got a
                     project going right now – “Do you need me right this second? Is it code
                     red? Okay, it‟s code red. Now I‟m on you – what do you need? That was
                     not good enough. I‟ve got to get back to this,” you know.

Panel:               We have time for one more question.

Panel:               Okay, for – well this would be a good last question then. What types of
                     TV shows and stuff like that do you like personally to entertain yourself?

Virginia Williams:   Hmm. Well, I‟ve got to be honest – I love comedies. I –

Panel:               [inaudible]

Virginia Williams:   Yes, yeah.

Panel:               It‟s fantastic.

Virginia Williams:   Oh, thank you so much – yeah, hopefully we‟ll see that character again. I
                     think she might be coming back. Yeah, I love working in and watching
                     good sitcoms. Bad sitcoms there‟s nothing worse, but good ones I can
                     watch over, and over, and over. So I love watching comedies. And I‟m not
                     a huge television drama fan in general. Well, we have a dromedy, so. But I
                     will say I just started watching – by accident, it was on the plane. I started
                     watching some episodes of The Good Wife.

                     Holy moly, that‟s a good show. Oh my gosh. I just went to our
                     Blockbuster here to try to get the first season, and I guess it‟s not out yet,
                     or at least it‟s not here. But I would watch every episode of that. I mean,
                     that‟s a really good show. And I love Christine Baranski‟s character. And I
                     guess Lauren would be kind of the closest thing, even though they‟re very
                     different. And they‟re completely different ages, and they‟re in different
                     places, and all that kind of stuff. But she‟s fun to watch, and to – and
                     Christine Baranski‟s always fun to watch. And she‟s – her attention to
                     detail is pretty outstanding.

                     See I‟d say 30 Rock, The Office, Modern Family, Friends episodes almost
                     every night before I go to bed, and I‟m totally not kidding. I probably
                     watch an episode of Friends a day, I‟m embarrassed to say. I have seen
                     every one of them, like, five times. I love Friends, I think they‟re my
                     Friends. If I ever work with any of them – I haven‟t. If I ever work with
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                     any of them I maybe would have to turn the job down because I don‟t
                     want to ruin the illusion that‟s in my head that they‟re my friends. I would
                     be, like, Jennifer Anniston‟s just – I don‟t know if I could do it. I just see
                     her as Rachael. I don‟t want to – don‟t make me. No, I love that. But yeah,
                     and Boston Legal‟s pretty great too. Yeah, so those are two law shows – I
                     happen to be drawn to the law shows in the drama, yeah.

Panel:               It helps her study – no, no. All right, thank you – thank you for your time.
                     [background talking]

Virginia Williams:   Yeah, thank you guys. It was nice meeting all of you. What a pleasure.

Panel:               And The Good Wife‟s available on iTunes.

Virginia Williams:   It is? Thanks for the tip my friend. I will be getting that.

Panel:               Thank you so much.

Virginia Williams:   Yeah of course, thank you.

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