IPv6 Challenge or The Challenge of IPv6

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					    IPv6 Challenge or The
        Challenge of IPv6
           Internet 2 IPv6 Working Group
                           Dale Finkelson
                         Michael Lambert



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What is the IPv6 Challenge?
    Goals
          Applies to all Internet2 members (initially)
          To generate awareness and interest in IPv6
          To drive implementation of IPv6 in
              public-facing websites
              public-facing mailers
              and DNS systems.




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Goals
    Provide a foundation for broader participation
     in v6 deployment by other organizations,
     such as:
          IPv6 promoting groups, like the IPv6 Forum
          Other NRENs
          The broader R&E community




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Target Audiences
    Initially, Internet2 members:
          CEOs
          CIOs, and
          VPs for Research




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Metrics
    An organization will be deemed to have met the
     IPv6 Challenge if it has enabled a:
            v6-reachable public web page
            v6-reachable mail server (sending and
             receiving)
            v6 DNS
               Both AAAA records
               V6 transport DNS

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Benefits
    Recognition:
          On the IPv6 Challenge website
          At various Internet2 meetings
          In challenge updates to the Internet2 community
           throughout the year
          Right to use of a “IPv6 Challenge” logo for use on
           an organization’s own website
          Work in conjunction with media outreach to
           promote the Website: IPv6Challenge.org

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Features

    Report on all Internet2 member universities similar
     to Ron Broesma’s website for DREN:
      http://www.v6.dren.net/DREN_IPv6_Survey/
    Form for submitting/testing IPv6 capabilities of
     domains
    IPv6 training and deployment resources




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Why are we issuing that
challenge?
    As a working group we think v6 should be
     promoted.
    The world is changing around us and we
     need to keep pace.
    The IPv4 structure will not be able to support
     the needs of IP networking into the rest of
     this century.


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What does the end game need to
look like (3-5 yrs)?
    Dual Stack campus networks
          V4 is not going to disappear
          Public vs Private nets?
            Some of the networks we provision need to be public some
             private.
    There will remain v4 only networks
    Possible V6 only pockets
          Residence halls perhaps
          Sensor nets
          Other large scale deployments
            Think handheld
          Phone implementations
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Current Status of IPv6
    http://globalnoc.iu.edu/public/uploads/tH/A_/t
     HA_Mhtfhiu1EWlhNWJ-Vw/Internet2IPv6.jpg
    http://globalnoc.iu.edu/public/uploads/QV/GW
     /QVGWR5VHudmrsRcDoO-3gw/Internet2-
     IPv6.pdf




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Current Status of IPv6
    We could go look at various counters and
     graphs etc. but the fact is what we would find
     is that the v6 traffic in Internet 2 is barely
     noise compared to the overall traffic.
    Why is that?
    Before I answer that lets look at some
     possible roadblocks to deployment.


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What is the Challenge of IPv6?
    What at this point hinders the growth of IPv6
     within our community?
          Is it financial considerations?
          Time constraints?
          Equipment limitations?
              Need to take responsibility ourselves
          Lack of information?
          All of the above?


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What are the challenges?
    It’s the application space.
          Web content and Servers need to be v6 enabled.
            Why can’t we really do this:
                Web tools really do not support v6, eg. Log analysis tools, general
                 management tools etc.
                Perhaps browser issues.
                Has Web 2.0 been analyzed for v4 dependencies.
          Mail
            Its so critical campus administrators are nervous about it.

            Anti-spam infrastructure and v4 dependencies.
                Are they there?


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What are the challenges?
    Security
          Are there adequate and scaleable firewalls, VPN’s and
           Intrusion protections systems.
          Do our authentication systems have v4 dependencies?
    Translation
          Do we have a means to accommodate either v4 only or v6
           only networks?
    DHCP
          Many embedded systems rely on aspects of DHCP
          Auto-config is not always comfortable or possible.

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What are the Challenges?
    IM and related tools.
          Has anyone taken the time to enable these?
    Media
          Streaming/on demand.
          What about sources like YouTube.
    What about social networking tools and sites.
          These tend to be web 2.0.
    Can we make our content mobile and generally
     available.
          Can you provide information to the v6 only connected
           potential student in Asia.
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Why do we need to overcome
these Challenges?
    Its really just a question of will and effort.
          Developing the will is really a matter of understanding that
           there is a problem and it needs a medium term solution.
          NAT is not that solution.
    That of course is an oversimplification.
          CIO’s may only control a small piece of these resources.
    Recognize that v4 was a good introduction but it
     cannot scale to support the Internet for the next 50 -
     100 years.
          We cannot grow in a v4 environment.
          We can expand in a dual stack environment.

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How do we overcome them?
    As Administrators of campus networks we all
     need to recognize the value of these
     infrastructures to our organizations and
     accept the challenge of future proofing our
     campuses so that they can continue to
     function well into the 21st Century.




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How do we overcome them?
    We need to forge partnerships with the
     elements of the Internet that have
     successfully addressed some or all of these
     challenges.
    How does the Chinese Internet community
     build IPv6 only networks and have them
     function?
          What can we learn from your experiences?
          How do we go about getting that information?
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How do we overcome them?
    Some examples:
          How well does the translation paradigm that you use work?
            What is the throughput capabilities?

          How do you deal with security?
            Are there functioning firewalls/VPN’s or other tools?

          How do you manage these networks?
            Performance measurement?

            Application use measurement?

            Tools for Configuration control that use v6 transport.

            Adequate sniffers and monitors.

            And the list goes on.

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Joint Projects
    The Internet 2 IPv6 working group is certainly
     interested in promoting some joint projects
     between Internet 2 and the Chinese
     Research community.
          Perhaps testing more extensively some
           translation tools.
              Where do they need to be placed?
              How well do they perform?
              Do they affect any application performance ?


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Joint Projects
    One need is for Data Sources to encourage the use
     of IPv6.
          Are there mirrors or other types of information sources that
           we could jointly work to establish?
            Perhaps some US IPv6 mirrors of Chinese data sources.

    Are there ways Chinese experts in deploying
     campus level IPv6 implementations could participate
     in our V6 workshop activity?
          At least in assisting in developing materials if not in
           teaching.

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Joint Projects
    Are there known deficiencies in some
     management or monitoring tools that we
     could develop joint projects to address?
          These might be in place or something that is
           desired.
    Would someone from the Chinese IPv6
     community at the campus level be interested
     in relaying their experience at an Internet 2
     Joint Techs meeting?
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Conclusion
    There is a growing recognition that IPv6 must
     be deployed. It will not be deployed the same
     way in every country or region. Local
     conditions will vary. It is clear however that all
     these implementations must interoperate to
     allow the continual exchange of data. Our
     communities should work together to make
     this happen.

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