JM Financial Mutual Fund Investor Connect Programme April 2008
Rise and fall of stock markets/prices is guaranteed!
Boom…bang…crash!!
Sensex peaks at 21000 levels in Jan 2008
Euphoria
Sensex crosses 18000 in Oct 2007
(sharp rally of 4000 pts in 1 ½ mths)
Belief
Crash
Sensex crashes to 15332 on Jan 22 2008 thereby retracing to Aug 2007 levels
(within 7 trading sessions of achieving a peak)
Disbelief
Last Leg for Up Move was backed by
- Liquidity - Leverage - Rumour mongering - Huge Retail participation
But was not backed by FUNDAMENTALS
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Analyzing – Falls & Bounce back for Individual Years
2000 - Statistics
Feb 2000 – Sensex Peak
5933
% of Stock Fall > Sensex % of Stock Rise > Sensex 51%
Jan 2004 – Sensex Bounce back 6026
Flows
•FIIs – Rs 484 bn
•Domestic – Rs (75) bn
Flows
•FIIs – Rs 43 bn
•Domestic –Rs 4 bn
54%
3920 May 2000 – Trough 4 yrs
• Dotcom bubble
Source: Bloomberg
2001 - Statistics
Aug 2001 – Sensex Peak
3318
% of Stock Fall > Sensex % of Stock Rise > Sensex 56%
Nov 2001 – Sensex Bounce back 3322
Flows
•FIIs – Rs 9.6 bn
•Domestic – Rs (10.7) bn
Flows
•FIIs – Rs (4.5) bn
•Domestic –Rs 1.1 bn
33%
2600 Sep 2001 – Trough 3 months
• September 9 /11
Source: Bloomberg
2004 - Statistics
Apr 2004 – Sensex Peak
5925
% of Stock Fall > Sensex % of Stock Rise > Sensex 69%
Nov 2004 – Sensex Bounce back 5973
Flows
•FIIs – Rs 124 bn
•Domestic – Rs (17) bn
Flows
•FIIs – Rs (25) bn
•Domestic –Rs 13.3 bn
29%
4505 May 2004 – Trough 7 months
• NDA government collapsed
Source: Bloomberg
2006 - Statistics
May 2006 – Sensex Peak
12612
% of Stock Fall > Sensex % of Stock Rise > Sensex 34%
Oct 2006 – Sensex Bounce back 12736
Flows
•FIIs – Rs 144 bn
•Domestic – Rs 17 bn
Flows
•FIIs – Rs (103) bn
•Domestic –Rs 56 bn
80%
8929 Jun 2006 – Trough 5 months Concerns that US will raise rates and draw overseas investors away from emerging markets and surging commodity prices will hurt company earnings.
•
Source: Bloomberg
2008 - Statistics
Jan 2008 – Sensex Peak
20812
% of Stock Fall > Sensex
Sensex Bounce back - ??
Flows
•FIIs – Rs (149) bn
•Domestic –Rs 54 bn
81%
15357 Mar 2008 – Trough ?? months
• Sub-prime crisis
Source: Bloomberg
2008 Crash – Most Vicious
Date From 1 2 Jan-08 Feb-07 To Mar-08 Mar-07 SENSEX INDEX From 21206 14723 To 14677 12316 change % -30.79% -16.35%
3
4
May-06
Apr-04
Jun-06
May-04
12671
5979
8799
4227
-30.56%
-29.30%
Date From To
BSEMDCAP Index From To
change %
1
2 3
Jan-08
Feb-07 May-06
Mar-08
Mar-07 Jun-06
10113
6187 6033
5805
5114 3721
-42.60%
-17.34% -38.32%
4
Source: Bloomberg
Apr-04
May-04
2337
1768
-24.35%
Key Question in Investors Mind
• Is the 2008 stock market crash similar to 2000 crash and would this mark the beginning of the bear market?
2000 v/s 2008
2000-01
Fwd P/E ratio Savings (as a % of GDP) Investments (as a % of GDP) GDP growth 35x 23.7% 24.3% 4.35%
*2007-08
16x 34.7% 35.9% 8.73%
Inflation
Earnings growth
Other comparisons:
7.16%
4.43%
4.21%
17-20%
• Only driver of markets in 2000 was the TMT sector
• Rally & the crash now much more broad based • Tata Motors, Tata Steel, M&M making losses in 2000
• IT cos much stronger and much bigger
* estimates
Corporate Profits Surpass Index Growth
Date
Apr-98
Apr-99
Sensex
3993
3519
Agg BSE 500 Net Profit (Rs Crs)
33755
31101
Apr-00
Apr-01 Apr-02 Apr-03 Apr-04
5053
3566 3506 3117 5788
37019
45487 45371 70028 90077
Apr-05
Apr-06
6604
11747
119719
136909
Apr-07
12455
195769
Mar-08
16217
254500
10 yr growth
10 year data reveals that ….
Source: Bloomberg; Edelwiess
4.1 times
7.5 times
…profits in the broader market have grown faster than the Sensex
Consistent Earning Growth
EPS Growth (%) Sensex Sensex growth
FY98
FY99
247.0
240.5
6.9
(2.6)
3,969.6
3,686.3
15.8%
-7.1%
FY00
FY01 FY02 FY03 FY04
274.4
235.8 251.3 293.7 354.1
14.1
(14.1) 6.6 16.9 20.6
5,001.3
3,604.4 3,500.2 3,081.0 5,740.9
35.7%
-27.9% -2.9% -12.0% 86.3%
FY05
FY06
435.7
478.4
23.1
9.8
6,605.0
11,280.0
15.1%
70.8%
FY07
FY08 FY09E
653.3
865.0 1,012.1
36.6
32.4 17.0
13,072.1
15,800.0 ?
15.9%
20.9% ?
• Indian corporates have been delivering consistent growth for last 5-6 years
• Markets have been rising from levels to 1200 in Fy01 to 4900 in Fy08 at a CAGR of 20% p.a.
• In FY07 and FY08; Sensex has grown slower than the Sensex EPS growth; thereby anticipating a slowdown in future earnings • As the growth outlook improved; Sensex likely to give disproportionate returns
Source: Bloomberg; Edelwiess
Economic Fundamentals - Robust
Real GDP % Y-o-Y 1997-98 1998-99 1999-00 4.30 6.68 6.44 Inflation % Y-o-Y 4.40 5.95 3.27 Investments as a % of GDP % 25.3 23.3 25.9 Savings as a % of GDP % 23.80 22.26 24.81
2000-01
2001-02 2002-03
4.35
5.81 3.84
7.16
3.60 3.41
24.3
22.8 25.2
23.74
23.47 26.40
2003-04
2004-05 2005-06
8.52
7.45 9.40
5.46
6.48 4.38
28.2
32.2 35.5
29.81
31.77 34.28
2006-07
2007-08
9.62
8.73
5.42
4.21
35.9
36.3 *
34.77
35.05*
Source: CSO, CMIE, RBI, Edelweiss, * estimates
• Economic fundamentals have been robust and key metrics have consistently improved • Current level of Saving and investments can sustain 8% growth
Is There Enough Liquidity?
•
• •
• •
Record US$100bn of outflows from global equity funds, 80% of which pertains to developed markets, 20% to emerging markets Taiwan, Russia, Middle East, Africa are the only market-funds that saw inflows Money is moving to money market funds that saw inflows of US$140bn. MM funds have ballooned to US$3.5trn in the US. A lot of money is thus now on the sidelines; these will flow into riskier assets once climate improves Commodity funds saw inflows of US$3bn, 3x YoY. There is over-heating here, commodities look very vulnerable More than 50% of the 25-top US mutual funds have seen outflows in their equity funds
• The above statistics show that the risk aversion is at a peak in equities • Liquidity is ample but there seems to crisis of confidence • Commodities cooling will release liquidity into oversold equity markets
The Crash and Carnage was backed by
- Low Liquidity - Heavy Shorting/hedging activity - Rumour mongering - Problems with US financial system
But again driven more by fear than only fundamentals
Fundamentals are still strong
Where can the Sensex go?
FY2009 EPS growth Sensex EPS P/E 20 1010 FY2010 20 1212 FY2011 20 1454 FY2012 17 1702 FY2013 17 1991 FY2014 17 2329 FY2015 15 2679 FY2016 15 3081 FY2017 15 3543 FY2018 12 3968
12
13 14
12120
13130 14140
14544
15756 16968
17453
18907 20362
20420
22121 23823
23891
25882 27873
27953
30282 32611
32146
34824 37503
36967
40048 43129
42512
46055 49598
47614
51582 55550
15
16
15150
16160
18180
19392
21816
23270
25525
27226
29864
31855
34941
37270
40182
42861
46209
49290
53141
56683
59517
63485
17
18 19
17170
18180 19190
20604
21816 23028
24725
26179 27634
28928
30630 32331
33846
35837 37828
39600
41929 44258
45539
48218 50897
52370
55451 58532
60226
63769 67311
67453
71421 75389
20
21
20200
21210
24240
25452
29088
30542
34033
35735
39819
41809
46588
48917
53576
56255
61612
64693
70854
74397
79357
83324
22
22220
26664
31997
37436
43800
51246
58933
67773
77940
87292
Pls note: the above calculations are based on hypothetical assumptions about the EPS growth rate and the P/E ratio
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Technical Analysis
Technical View - Crude oil
•The crude oil prices are looking heavily overbought on the charts •The most likely scenario is a correction to USD 90 levels •A breach of this level is likely to take crude oil to USD 80 levels •Crude oil would lead the fall in other industrial metals and gold
Source: Reuters
Technical View - BSE 500
•The BSE 500 index has climbed back after breaching the long term support line in early March •A move above the trend line will indicate that the long term trend remains intact
Source: Reuters
Technical View - BSE Midcap
•The BSE Midcap index has breached the long term trend line thrice over the last three years •Typically this happens during times of panic •The index is looking oversold in term of stochastics •The index should bounce back over the long term trend line over the next three weeks
Source: Reuters
Technical View - MSCI Emerging Markets Index
•The Morgan Stanley emerging markets index is showing the formation of a double bottom on the charts •This reflects that the index might have bottomed out in the near term
Source: Reuters
Technical View - BSE Sensex Index
•The long term chart of the sensex reflects that the index has been able to come back into the long term channel •As long as this index remains in the channel the positive trend will remain intact and the index should rally to the upper end of the channel over the next few weeks
Source: Reuters
Higher September - Way to go?
Sensex Values Year 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Source: Bloomberg; Edelwiess
31-Mar 3,049 5,591 6,493 11,280 13,072
30-Sep 4,453 5,584 8,634 12,454 17,291
growth 46.1% -0.1% 33.0% 10.4% 32.3%
Key Statistics - JM Schemes
JM ELF P/E ratio (FY09) Profit growth (FY09)
Source: JM Financial MF research
JM Basic 12.4x 51.7%
JM HIFI 10.4 40%
JM Equity 13.6x 38.5%
BSE Sensex 15.3 17.0%
10.8x 65.0%
Synopsis
• Indian markets are cheap and trading below fair value • Indian markets can move up by 20% in the next 3-4 months • Subsequently, markets will be driven by movements in commodity prices and RBI’s credit and monetary measures • Q1 results in developed economies should bring out the most of the losses in the balance sheets of the global financial majors. • Thus we believe that the worst of the sub-prime crisis will be behind us post the Q1 results • There is no change in the long term trend of the market
A Basic Reminder
• Invest for the Long term • Price of the company will change daily but not the value of the company. It’s the value that finally drives the price. • Do not follow the herd – draw your own path • Be disciplined • Markets in the long run will depend upon a) Macro Factors – Economy b) Corporate India performance
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