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Naveed Bandali

in the 21st
An Interview with
General Michael V. Hayden (Ret.)
                                                                                                         General Michael V. Hayden (Ret.). Photo: C.I.A.

           ENERAL Michael V. Hayden (Ret.) served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency (2006–2009), Principal Deputy Director

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           of National Intelligence (2005–2006), and as director of the National Security Agency and Chief of the Central Security Service (1999-
           2005). He retired as a Four-Star General from the U.S. Air Force in July 2008.

JIPO: You have said before that the objective of     One way to do this is through increased           richness of capabilities that exist inside
the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is to          transparency to Congress and our                  the private sector?
protect the American people, yet due to public and   oversight bodies. We have to deal with
oversight pressures CIA is increasingly challenged   the question of legislative oversight as          Too often though, this is viewed by some
by limitations on its operational space. Can you     well as creating more transparency for the        as CIA or other intelligence agencies
elaborate on this and the major challenges the       general public. Otherwise, we will be             avoiding responsibility — creating a
intelligence community faces?                        mistrusted. This is a work in progress.           carveout. I have said publicly that if
                                                     Putting aside their individual merits, some       anyone is acting as an agent of CIA,
General Hayden: CIA is an espionage                  things that certain members of Congress           whether it is a government employee, a
service and we do secret things. Frankly, I          have recently said are reflective of this         contractor or a foreign agent, the director
think this is very compatible with                   more fundamental question of greater              of CIA is equally responsible for what
democracies. Moreover, I personally think            transparency inside our political culture –       that individual does on behalf of CIA. So
it is very necessary for democracies in              as well as the reactions of secret intelli-       there is no carveout there.
order to protect themselves and to allow             gence services.
their citizens the greatest amount of                                                                  However, if you are continually going to
personal freedom.                                    JIPO: What are the advantages and disadvan-       contractors for particular functions, a fair
                                                     tages of private contractor support for CIA and   question is, “Why are you not building
In the West, we now exist inside broader             the intelligence community?                       that capacity inside the agency?” But, as
political cultures that demand greater                                                                 far as the general proposition of going to
transparency and accountability from all             General Hayden: In this current political         contractors for particular activities— I
elements of society. However, we have                culture it is very fashionable — unfortu-         think that is as natural, as American, as
not yet arrived at some sort of equilibrium          nately in a far too simplistic way — to say,      modern and as efficient as I can imagine.
as to how to meet this need for transpar-            “Government good, contractor bad.” All            There should not be any natural pushback
ency and accountability while still                  aspects of our society and all aspects of         against contractors. Instead you should
maintaining the degree of secrecy needed             our government routinely go to the                consider building up capabilities in your
for organizations like CIA to exist or to            private sector for skills, services and           own organic workforce.
function at all. This is a new phenomenon            products. It simply makes sense to go to
for us and we have to come to what is,               the private sector. Why should we in the          Many times when testifying to Congress, I
frankly, a new social contract.                      intelligence community deny ourselves the
                                                     The author is a Development Associate at IPOA.
q and a | general michael v. hayden (ret.)

                                                                                           would comment on or relate a particular
                                                                                           narrative about something we were doing
                                                                                           or about to do, and I would be asked if it
                                                                                           was being carried out by contractors or by
                                                                                           government employees. And very
                                                                                           frequently I would have to say, “You
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