Minutes of the Cheshire East and Cheshire West and Chester Local Safeguarding Children Board Training & Development sub group Date: 16 November 2009 Place: The Mercury Meeting Room, Universal House, Middlewich Time: 2.00 p.m. Present: Fiona Field (Chair) Central and Eastern Cheshire PCT Bill Joyce Cheshire West and Chester LSCB Vicky Moran Cheshire East LSCB Vicki Silver Cheshire West and Chester Melanie Kelsall Connexions Cheshire & Warrington Chris Greenwood Cheshire East Safeguarding Children in Education Team Judith Gibson Cheshire East Domestic Abuse Partnership Moira McGrath Central and Eastern Cheshire PCT Carron Pygott Cheshire & Wirral Partnership NHS Trust Anne Eccles Western Cheshire PCT Debbie Kirkup Cheshire East LSCB Afy Afrouz (Minutes) Cheshire East LSCB Action By: Timescale 1. Apologies: Sally Hesketh – Cheshire West and Chester Paul Jackson – Cheshire East LSCB Naomi Smith – Connexions Cheshire & Warrington Heidi Randle – Cheshire West and Chester Safeguarding Children in Education team Phil Spilsted – Cheshire & Wirral Partnership NHS Trust Did not attend: Sue Atkinson – Cheshire West and Chester Cheryl Hood – Cheshire East Leigh Edwards – Connexions Cheshire & Warrington Philippa Carrington – Connexions Cheshire & Warrington 2. Minutes of previous meeting and Matters Arising Minutes from meeting 12.8.09 agreed as true record BJ raised the issue with the Engaging Partners and Community Action By: Timescale Subgroup regarding basic safeguarding information being sent to members of the public. They are going to do some work on this. BJ and FF have not yet found a representative from the Police. BJ will take this up with Geraint Jones who represents the Police BJ By next on the East LSCB Board, and Phil Jones for the West. VM thinks meeting Nigel Reid who is currently a member of the Training Pool may want to join. Two dates have been arranged for Serious Case Review AA and Independent Management Author training- 15th December and 7th VM ASAP January. Training will be delivered by Eddie O’Hara who has had several outstanding reports. Information has yet to go out to potential delegates and group worried this is very late. AA and VM to chase up with Paul Jackson. VM gave an update on the online training package. It will be a AA Next slow process getting it up and running, plus both websites need meeting improving first as access to them at present is very bad. FF would like this to be on the agenda at the next meeting. AA will do. The group looked at the audit which Matt Johnston produced showing who from the Training Pool has helped out with training BJ, VM Next last year and this year up until his secondment post ended in and AA meeting August. FF would like to see this brought even more up to date as she is going to report to both Boards regarding those organisations helping and those not. BJ and VM will do this. FF would also like a copy of the minutes from the last Training Pool meeting. CG asked whether it is felt that this audit should also include work VM done by agencies to help out with conferences? VM felt this a very good point and will add this to the audit. Recommendation: None 3. Safeguarding Children and Domestic Abuse training JG put a proposal forward regarding the Cheshire Domestic Abuse Partnership (CDAP) and the LSCB joining together to produce and deliver Domestic Abuse training. They will need £5,000.00 from the LSCB to cover the costs of this, however it will mean that the LSCB do not then need to worry about producing and delivering the course themselves. Domestic Abuse was one of the subjects mentioned at the last Training Pool meeting as a potential future training course. CDAP have a bank of trainers they can commission to deliver the training, and someone available to begin developing it. Group in agreement to fund the cost, and CG can commit two trainers from the SCiE team. Recommendation: The LSCB will fund the cost of Domestic Abuse training Action By: Timescale 4. New CWDC Safeguarding Induction material VS showed the group some new Common Core Standards that the Children’s Workforce Development Council (CWDC) have produced, that need to be in place by April 2010. Standard 6 refers to Safeguarding Children, and states that an induction workbook must be completed by ALL professionals within the first six months of working with children and young people. This workbook asks that multi-agency training is completed, and so has implications for all agencies. The group discussed this. BJ feels that every agency would need to stop delivering single agency training in order for this to be possible. VM feels that the LSCB would need to contribute to the content. FF thinks this needs a working group look into it. Recommendation: Working group needed to look into integrated workforce planning. 5. Integrated Induction to Safeguarding for the Children’s Workforce – strategy and delivery plan for CWAC Included in item 4. Recommendation: None 6. Training programme 2010-11 Next year’s training programme needs to be produced and online very soon, and VM needs to know whether she should just produce East’s. MM feels the dates are needed ASAP so the training pool can commit to training. An update was given regarding the Training and Development Manager’s post for both LSCBs. In the West they are going to appoint someone in a full time post, this is currently with HR. And in the East they are looking at appointing someone part time to backfill the days that VM does not work. FF feels that as this is still the Subgroup for both LSCBs then training programmes for both the East and the West must be produced. VM would therefore like some help in producing separate programmes for both authorities. The East have requested certain training which the West have not. And VM is also concerned that her producing both will take up all the time she has spare, leaving no time for any development. FF therefore proposes that VM stops delivering training for the West. FF will write to both Boards giving them two options- from 1/1/10 VM will stop delivering training in the West, or the number FF ASAP of courses due to run from 1/1/10 until 31/3/10 is halved in both authorities. Action By: Timescale Recommendation: The 2010-11 training programme needs to be produced ASAP and VM’s capacity to continue delivering training to both authorities needs to be addressed by both Boards. 7. Training East and West Included in item 6 Recommendation: None 8. LSCB Training Officer Cheshire West Included in item 6 Recommendation: None 9. Subgroup memberships and terms of reference VM feels that certain people are always missing from this Subgroup, for example, Police, Fire Service, Probation and Social care, and that the Terms of Reference need to be looked at regarding who needs to be on the Subgroup. FF would like revised Terms of Reference and membership to be AA Next on the next meeting agenda. AA will do. meeting Recommendation: The Terms of Reference and Subgroup membership needs to be looked at. 10. Single agency training policy and standards VM informed the group of the new guidance from Ofsted for schools and colleges regarding Child Protection training. Colleges are in the worst situation as Ofsted have requested that ALL members of staff complete LSCB Level 2 training. VM is concerned that this guidance will result in schools and colleges attending training purely to ‘tick boxes’ with Ofsted, rather than because they feel safeguarding children is important. However there is no guidance from Ofsted as to what constitutes as Level 2 training, therefore VM feels that it is worth revising single agency training so that this covers Level 2 also. Other suggestions made regarding this matter were actually contacting Ofsted and finding out what exactly it is they are looking for? Or VM accrediting the SCiE team’s training so that it meets Level 2 also. Action By: Timescale CG mentioned that some Head teachers have been asking her for names of external trainers, however at present none are LSCB verified. BJ has met with chairs of head associations in West. It was agreed that we should check the state of play regarding who has and has not been trained, as the situation may be less concerning than some schools think. Also there are a number of issues to consider in terms of schools and colleges receiving training that not from the LA & LSCB; should there be accreditation of private providers; should schools have clear LSCB standards that private providers have to meet to be commissioned; we should be clear which training we are talking about. FF would like VM and CG to produce a paper regarding this and VM and Next bring it to the next meeting. CG meeting Recommendation: To help schools and colleges meet Ofsted’s requirements 11. Ofsted requirements for schools Included in item 10. 12. LSCB Launch events FF confirmed that the East LSCB Board had an Away Day in October where they decided on a new logo, and currently have no plan to have a launch event. The West Board have their Away Day in December where they too, will choose their new logo, and cannot commit to a launch event. VM wondered whether there will be any conferences for either Board this year? MM suggested to concentrate on holding one AA Next next year as it is too late to have one this year. FF in agreement meeting with this. VM would like this as an item on the agenda for next meeting. AA will do. BJ did report that the EP&C sub group were talking about a conference particularly for the third sector Recommendation: Look at planning a conference for next year at the next meeting 13. SMART Plan It has been three years since VM last produced the SMART plan so it needs re-doing and as two separate plans. Recommendation: None 14. Ways to better publicise training FF feels we have a good training brochure, but we need more than just having printed brochures so asked is it worth sending the link to the training dates on the websites out to everyone again? VM confirmed that the remaining courses on the 2009-10 training programme always have a good turn out because of the Action By: Timescale time of year, so there is no need. Recommendation: None 15. AOB MM mentioned that there is still no training in Styal Prison, no FF and Next meetings arranged and no one is contacting her. FF will take this DK Board to the East Board and asked DK to put this on the agenda for the meeting next Board meeting. FF asked the group what their views about each LSCB establishing its own training sub group within their area, so each LSCB clearly managed its own business, but collaborating on certain areas, or training continued to be delivered jointly across the 2 authorities. The views were mixed, and pro’s and con’s could be seen for both options. FF will produce a paper for the FF ASAP Boards with both options. 16 Next Meeting Date: 11 January 2010 Place: The Neptune Meeting Room, Universal House, Middlewich Time: 2.00 p.m.
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