Derek Funk, associate pastor at First Mennonite Church in Winnipeg, described what he learned as "an affirmation," saying he appreciated the perspective that Christians need to be honest and deal with conflict openly-and realize that a certain amount of conflict is helpful. "As Mennonites, we often don't want to deal with conflict," he said. "We have to realize it's good to engage in it, and realize that there's hope when we do.""Prayer is a very useful way for you to begin to reframe the conflict," said [Speed Leas], who has spent almost 40 years as a consultant and teacher in the area of conflict management. He added that one sees the person one is in conflict with "in a different light when you pray for them."