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                                       UNCOMFIRMED MINUTES

                         RMC Meeting Minutes
           Monday, Tuesday, & Wednesday 01/30/2006-02/01/2006

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                              12205 Apopka-Vineland Road
                                   Orlando FL 32836
                                 Phone: 407-239-0444

Note: presentations are posted on the RMC web site in the folder
      under minutes associated to this meeting. Where reference is
      made in the minutes to See Presentation #x, open the file on
      the web with the corresponding number.


In the minutes below:
             Discussions are documented in Blue
             Actions are documented in Red
             Decisions are documented in Lime
1.     Introductions                                                                Mike Roberts
             Mike Roberts began the meeting by announcing his 3 year
              tenure has come to an end and that Tim Lee is the incoming
              RMC chair
2.     Organizational Summary                                                       Mike Roberts


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See Presentation #3
    Mike led discussion on current structure of the RMC,
     including the Chair being a non-voting member and allowing
     additional CRBs as non-voting members
1.   The RMC recognizes that no change to bylaws are necessary
     and it is acceptable the RMC Chair be a non voting member,
     just that the chair must be selected by the full RMC,
     reviewed annually and approved by the Americas Sector
1.   RMC quorum required to determine acceptability of RMC
     Chair not being a voting member
2.   RMC vote - 8 members present Tim Lee accepted as chair
2.   RMC quorum required to determine if RMC is Registrar or
     Registration Management Committee - Tim Lee to focal
3.   RMC decision: from this point forward, the “R” in RMC stands
     for registration
4.   RMC receiving questions from CRBs to be referred to the
     IAAR &/or appropriate AB first.
3.   Process for FAQs (page on web?) would be / could be
     beneficial - Process sub team to address
    Mike Roberts reminded all to interface with their AAQG
     voting member to coordinate comments / ballots (i.e.
     AS9014 failed at ballot yet issues not brought up during
     comment period)
    Reminder that conflict of interest should be disclosed by the
     voting members at beginning of each meeting
4.   AB working together forum to address involvement of SCC
     and non-US CRBs being accredited under ANAB - Lori Scheid
     to follow up
5.   RMC to discuss and establish “policy” on RMC voting member
     participation in/on CB advisory boards - is it conflict of
     interest?? - Lori S to work with Randy D and bring proposal
     to March AAQG RMC meeting




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     6.   RMC to request SCC provide plans for engagement and
          expansion of SCC CB/auditor involvement in the 9104 ICOP
          process - Tim Lee to follow up
     7.   RMC to request SCC & INMETRO participation in the annual
          RMC meeting - Tim Lee to follow on
3.   Membership                                              Tim Lee
         Proposal to include by invitation, (1) additional CRB as non-
          voting member in addition to the (2) IAAR representatives
     5.   RMC meeting did not have quorum - Non quorum attendees
          supports - needs to take to full RMC for quorum vote
     8.   RMC quorum required to determine if additional CRBs may
          be a non-voting member
     6.   RMC decided to increase CRB number on RMC to 3
4.   Sub team Assignments                                    Tim Lee
     9.   Vince May, Reg Blake, Carl Blazik, Tim Lee to convene Mon
          afternoon 1/30 and create a time line (implementation plan)
          on how the process mapping ties to documentation ties to
          surveillance
5.   Expired Certifications
     7.   The RMC does not allow extensions
     8.   The RMC position on expired certifications is the client is no
          longer certified and must go through an additional, complete
          initial assessment to issue a “new” cert and re-establishment
          into OASIS
     10. ANAB, SCC, INMETRO & IAAR to communicate RMC position
         that extensions are not allowed in the ICOP scheme to CRBs
         (Tim Lee to inform SCC & INMETRO)
6.   OASIS listing of 1994 9100 certs
     11. Rick Downs to propose to OPMT revision to OASIS that
         eliminates the revision issue (1994 v 2000 vs current)
7.   9111 cost structure



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     12. Jay Myers to contact Becky Lemon at SAE about having fees
         structure for 9111 & 9121 replicate the 9101 structure
8.   Supplier input
     13. Tim Lee & Jay Park to establish forum inviting suppliers for
         participation/feedback during future meeting
     14. Tim Lee to set up a survey & send to suppliers asking them
         what about the ICOP scheme - Scott Monroe to assist
9.   June 2006 meeting proposal
     9.   RMC June meeting to be the morning of June 7th, location
          unknown
     10. June RMC meeting on Tuesday June 6th to be workshops -
         targeted to the RMC members and OEM/CRB/ABs
         Potential Topics include:
          a.   AS91XX Assessment Standard
          b.   OP Assessor training
          c.   AS91XY Auditor Qualification
          d.   Supplier feedback Session
          e.   AS9014 Americas requirements
          f.   OASIS
          g.   OPMT Activity
     15. Sid Vianna to lead effort (supported by Will Tate, Guy
         Johansen, and Mike Roberts) on creation of the June RMC
         Workshop agenda / topics, establish speakers, etc
10. Outsourced Oversight (3rd party surveillance / oversight)
     11. RMC does not support the EAQG Outsourced Oversight
         proposal
     16. Reg Blake, Randy Dougherty, Rick Downs & Mike Roberts to
         develop RMC/AAQG strategy and communicate to Colin for
         acceptance and forwarding to EAQG/IAQG
         RMC/AAQG strategy created and presented the RMC
     See Presentation #10


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    12. Strategy agreed to by the RMC
    17. Rick Downs to send the RMC/AAQG strategy on the
        Outsourced Oversight proposal to Colin Clarke for
        acceptance and forwarding to EAQG/IAQG
11. November 2006 meeting proposal
    18. Tim Lee to coordinated with Colin Clarke the proposal to sync
        an RMC meeting with the Aerospace Design Expo 2006
        meeting in Anaheim, CA
12. Future Meetings                                         Tim Lee
    Next RMC Meeting March 7 - 8, 2006
    Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa
    1011 West Holmes Avenue
    Mesa AZ 85210-4923
    Phone: 480-833-5555

    Tuesday March 7, 2006
         8:00-12:00 - Sub team meetings
    Tuesday March 7, 2006
         1:00-4:30 - Main RMC meeting
    Wednesday March 8, 2006
         8:00-12:00 - Main - RMC Meeting
Note: The AAQG Main Meeting is Wednesday afternoon (March 8) and
Thursday morning (March 9)
13. General Discussion
        Q - AS9110 - process to transition 9100 certification to 9110
         process?? -- If an organization is 9100, can the CB/Client
         take any credit from the 9100 effort to move to 9110??
        A - AS9110 is a separate certification and requires an initial
         assessment - IAF guidance provides minimum audit days and
         any credit that can be taken from 9100 to 9110. RMC only
         states that 9110 is a separate certification and requires
         initial assessment. There is no provision to allow for
         upgrade audits from ISO but per AS9104 8.2.5 from AS to
         AS, delta “audits” may be incorporated as the assessment.
        Q - Currently, can Americas CRBs issue AS9110 Certs?


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         A - Currently, no CRBs are accredited to AS9110 so NO, an
          Americas CRB can not issue AS9110 certificates under the
          Americas system
         Q - there is inconsistent application in the sectors on
          acknowledging 9110 CRBs/Auditors based on 9100 versus
          stand alone (COFRAC accepts 9100 for 9110 - ANAB requires
          separate witness and accreditation process
         A - RMC will raise issue to OPMT
     19. Sid Vianna to e-mail facts and data to Rick for follow up
     20. Rick Downs to raise issue to OPMT
         Q - Minor Nonconformances -- How is a CRB to handle?
         A - AS9014 states no certificates or approvals may be issued
          (or re-issued) until all CA is closed -- this includes Minors.
          For surveillance, the CRB defined process to be followed
         Q - AS9003 - OEMs in the space sector and NASA will be / are
          requiring compliance to AS9003 and request the AAQG/RMC
          include in ICOP
         A - AS9003 is a viable, current standard and is included in
          the ANAB accreditation programs, however the RMC and
          AAQG have decided not to have AS9003 as part of ICOP. SAE
          states that the AAQG has no choice and must keep the
          document available and must maintain the document in the
          level of currency desired by a review process to occur at
          least once in 5 years.
14. ANAB Report                                            Lori Scheid
     See Presentation #14
15. INMETRO Report                                            Tim Lee
     See Presentation #15
16. SCC Report
         No SCC Report
17. Multi-site certs
     See Presentation #17


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    13. The RMC agrees that each site (on a multi-site) shall have
        their own OIN number and each site is to be listed as an
        entry in OASIS even though they are part of a multi-site cert
    21. Tim & Lori to create and publish Heads Up to require that
        each site (on a multi-site) have their own OIN number and
        each site is to be listed as an entry in OASIS even though
        they are part of a multi-site cert
    22. Rick Downs to present / request that each site (on a multi-
        site) will have their own OIN number and each site is to be
        listed as an entry in OASIS even though they are part of a
        multi-site cert of the OPMT
18. Resolutions                                        Rick Downs
    See Presentation #18
    14. RMC accepted the Resolution on kick starting AS9110
        auditor process
    15. Sunset of this resolution is 06/30/2007. This is based on
        clarification of requirements and the RMC willingness to kick
        start the 9110 auditor process
    23. Rick/Lori to establish a communication / training on the
        resolution
19. Auditor Review Report                              Rick Downs
    See Presentation #19
20. Process Guidance Team Report                         Reg Blake
    See Presentations #20a, #20b, & #20c
21. Documentation (AIR5359) Sub Team Report              Vince May
    See Presentation #21
22. Surveillance Sub Team Report                           Tim Lee
    See Presentation #22
    24. Buck Crenshaw to provide presentation of the NASA tool that
        lists suppliers by commodity during March 2006 meeting
23. OASIS Review                                         Jay Myers


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    Verbal Presentation
        Help enhancement
        Change record log in OASIS
        Supplier Watch now available to all with access to OASIS
        Time supplier remains in OASIS after expiration now 90 days
        Confidentiality statement in OASIS
24. International Auditor Team (AS91XY)          Shanya Salamaca
    See Presentation #24
        Major issue is the length of competency course (32 hours vs
         130 hours)
    25. RMC Members to review and provide comments on the
        AS91XY document to Colin prior to his attendance at the Feb
        6, 2006 resolution meeting - due by 02/03/2006
25. International Oversight Team (AS91XX)                  Tim Lee
    See Presentation #25
        Next steps include formal comment process in preparation
         for formal ballot
        With release of AS91XX, RMC 102 to be canceled
26. Update to AS9104                                 Mike Roberts
    See Presentation #26
    26. Reg/Carl to request IAAR input to potential 9104 revision
        requests and provide to Mike Roberts
    27. Lori Scheid to provide Heads Up on how to raise a score
        when a previous NCR had been issued and CA verification
        occurred
27. Discuss 2006 initiatives                               Tim Lee
    28. Sally Randall to consider how document updates are to be
        acquired and communicated to interested parties (Training
        providers, AB’s, CRB’s, etc.) & how a competency course re-
        review process ensures their currency



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     29. Tim Lee to request the RMC to consider adding Course
         Providers & Auditor Accreditation Bodies to the RMC
         membership (by inclusion in AS9014 Appendix C)
28. SWOT Exercise                                                       Tim Lee
     See Presentation #30
             The attendees were split into 4 groups to create SWOTs on
              h.      AS9104/9014 - accreditation/registration scheme.
              i.      Auditor Certification process.
              j.      IAQG/AAQG RMC Oversight Process.
              k.      OASIS
     30. Tim Lee to collect SWOT Report Outs and establish plan of
         action to be reported at Phoenix meeting
29. Any Other Business                                                  Tim Lee
             CQSDI upcoming meeting, Buck will send information to
              RMC
30. Closing Remarks to RMC group                                        Tim Lee
31. Adjourned at 4:55pm


Registrar Management Committee Meeting Attendees
Monday January 30, 2006

Name                                   Company                     Affiliation
(VM=Voting Members)
(M=RMC Member)

         Susan     Armstrong           HamiltonSundstrand                OEM
M            Ed    Bayne (Secretary)   Boeing                            OEM
           Fred    Becker              The Registrar Company             CRB
M          Reg     Blake               IAAR / BSI America                CRB
M          Carl    Blazik              IAAR / CRS / SAI                  CRB
            Jeff   Carr                Intertek                          CRB
M         Buck     Crenshaw            Jet Propulsion Laboratory         OEM
           Paul    Dionne              Intertek                          CRB
VM         Rick    Downs               Textron                           OEM
         Miguel    Gaitan              BVQI                              CRB
VM        Mike     Gallagher           Lockheed                          OEM


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       Robin     Gorman            Boeing                            OEM
      Michael    Harrell           Underwriters Laboratories         CRB
VM       Guy     Johansen          UTC                               OEM
        Rose     Koronkiewicz      SRI                               CRB
         Pete    Kucan             PRI Registrars                    CRB
M         Tim    Lee (Chair)       Boeing                            OEM
VM      Vince    May               Honeywell                         OEM
        Scott    Monroe            Alcoa                            Guest
          Jay    Myers             SAE                               SAE
VM        Jay    Park              Northrop Grumman                  OEM
VM       Mike    Roberts           Boeing                            OEM
      Shanya     Salamaca          RABQSA                            PCB
          Lori   Scheid            ANAB                               AB
VM     David     Stevens           Rolls-Royce                       OEM
VM        Will   Tate              Vought                            OEM


Monday January 30, 2006 Attendance Statistics
                    Attendance:          Total     26
                                         AAB (PCB)  1
                                         ABs        1
                                         CRBs       9
                                         Guests     1
                                         OEMs      13
                                         SAE        1

                    Represented:         ABs           1
                                         CRBs          8
                                         OEMs         10


Registrar Management Committee Meeting Attendees
Tuesday January 31, 2006

Name                               Company                     Affiliation
(VM=Voting Members)
(M=RMC Member)

     Phil   Abbott                 LRQA                              CRB
   Jerry    Antonucci              Perry Johnson Registrar           CRB
  Susan     Armstrong              HamiltonSundstrand                OEM
M     Ed    Bayne (Secretary)      Boeing                            OEM
  Kevin     Beard                  NQA                               CRB
    Fred    Becker                 The Registrar Company             CRB
M   Reg     Blake                  IAAR / BSI America                CRB
M   Carl    Blazik                 IAAR / CRS / SAI                  CRB
   Russ     Bloom                  Eagle Force                      Guest


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    Steve    Buckwell              TUV America                   CRB
     Nick    Budd                  AQSR                          CRB
      Jeff   Carr                  Intertek                      CRB
     Mike    Caruso                Underwriters Laboratories     CRB
M    Buck    Crenshaw              Jet Propulsion Laboratory     OEM
    Karey    Cwiekowski            Great Western Registrar       CRB
     Paul    Dionne                Intertek                      CRB
VM Rick      Downs                 Textron                       OEM
  William    Dupre                 RW TUV                        CRB
 Bernard     Fallon                Verify                        CRB
   Miguel    Gaitan                BVQI                          CRB
VM Mike      Gallagher             Lockheed                      OEM
   Robin     Gorman                Boeing                        OEM
      Lisa   Greenleaf             NSAI                          CRB
  Michael    Harrell               Underwriters Laboratories     CRB
    Larry    Henderson             BSI                           CRB
VM Guy       Johansen              UTC                           OEM
     Rose    Koronkiewicz          SRI                           CRB
     Pete    Kucan                 PRI Registrars                CRB
    Chris    Lake                  SRI QSR                       CRB
M     Tim    Lee (Chair)           Boeing                        OEM
VM Vince     May                   Honeywell                     OEM
    Scott    Monroe                Alcoa                        Guest
       Jay   Myers                 SAE                           SAE
   Roger     Ritterbeck            QMI                           CRB
VM Mike      Roberts               Boeing                        OEM
 Spencer     Rodgers               Spirit Aero Systems           OEM
   Chuck     Russo                 ABS QE                        CRB
  Shanya     Salamaca              RABQSA                        PCB
      Lori   Scheid                ANAB                           AB
     John    Sedlak                Smithers Quality Assessm’s    CRB
VM David     Stevens               Rolls-Royce                   OEM
VM Will      Tate                  Vought                        OEM
    Dana     Trujillo              Orion Registrars              CRB
      Rod    Trujillo              Orion Registrars              CRB
M Sidney     Vianna                DNV                           CRB
    Terry    Wilson                NSF-ISR                       CRB


Tuesday January 31, 2006 Attendance Statistics
                     Attendance:         Total     46
                                         AAB (PCB)  1
                                         ABs        1
                                         CRBs      28
                                         Guests     2
                                         OEMs      13
                                         SAE        1




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                      Represented:         ABs           1
                                           CRBs         25
                                           OEMs         10


Registrar Management Committee Meeting Attendees
Wednesday February 1, 2006

Name                                 Company                     Affiliation
(VM=Voting Members)
(M=RMC Member)

       Phil   Abbott                 LRQA                              CRB
     Jerry    Antonucci              Perry Johnson Registrar           CRB
   Susan      Armstrong              HamiltonSundstrand                OEM
M       Ed    Bayne (Secretary)      Boeing                            OEM
    Kevin     Beard                  NQA                               CRB
      Fred    Becker                 The Registrar Company             CRB
M     Reg     Blake                  IAAR / BSI America                CRB
M     Carl    Blazik                 IAAR / SAI                        CRB
    Steve     Buckwell               TUV America                       CRB
       Jeff   Carr                   Intertek                          CRB
     Mike     Caruso                 Underwriters Laboratories         CRB
M    Buck     Crenshaw               Jet Propulsion Laboratory         OEM
    Karey     Cwiekowski             Great Western Registrar           CRB
      Paul    Dionne                 Intertek                          CRB
VM Rick       Downs                  Textron                           OEM
  William     Dupre                  RW TUV                            CRB
   Miguel     Gaitan                 BVQI                              CRB
VM Mike       Gallagher              Lockheed                          OEM
   Robin      Gorman                 Boeing                            OEM
      Lisa    Greenleaf              NSAI                              CRB
  Michael     Harrell                Underwriters Laboratories         CRB
    Julius    Hein                   NSF-ISR                           CRB
     Larry    Henderson              BSI                               CRB
VM Guy        Johansen               UTC                               OEM
     Rose     Koronkiewicz           SRI                               CRB
      Pete    Kucan                  PRI Registrars                    CRB
     Chris    Lake                   SRI QSR                           CRB
M      Tim    Lee (Chair)            Boeing                            OEM
VM Vince      May                    Honeywell                         OEM
     Scott    Monroe                 Alcoa                            Guest
       Jay    Myers                  SAE                               SAE
   Roger      Ritterbeck             QMI                               CRB
VM Mike       Roberts                Boeing                            OEM
 Spencer      Rodgers                Spirit Aero Systems               OEM
  Shanya      Salamaca               RABQSA                            PCB
       Lori   Scheid                 ANAB                               AB


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    John   Sedlak                    Smithers Quality Assessm’s   CRB
VM David   Stevens                   Rolls-Royce                  OEM
VM Will    Tate                      Vought                       OEM
   Dana    Trujillo                  Orion Registrars             CRB
     Rod   Trujillo                  Orion Registrars             CRB
M idney    Vianna                    DNV                          CRB
   Terry   Wilson                    NSF-ISR                      CRB


Wednesday February 1, 2006 Attendance Statistics
                      Attendance:          Total     43
                                           AAB (PCB)  1
                                           ABs        1
                                           CRBs      26
                                           Guests     1
                                           OEMs      13
                                           SAE        1

                      Represented:         ABs           1
                                           CRBs         22
                                           OEMs         10




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