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                                MEETING MINUTES
                                   June 19, 2003

Chairman Cam Hanna called the meeting of the Longview Historic Preservation Commission to
order at 3:03 p.m. at the Small Conference Room, Longview City Hall.

A.      Call to Order

        1. Attendance

        Present:                Cam Hanna, Chairman
                                Shirley Bailey
                                Sallie Kiggins
                                David Straub, Vice-Chairman
                                Janice Steele

        Not Present/Excused: Sharon Pedersen

        Staff: Present:         Robert Millspaw, Principal Planner

        2. Additions/Changes to Agenda

        Opening of Japanese Garden

        3. Approval of Minutes

        A motion was made by Dave Straub to approve the May 15, 2003 Historic Preservation
        Minutes. The motion was seconded by Shirley Bailey and unanimously was approved.

        4. Announcements/Correspondence

B.      Public Comment

C.      Certificate of Appropriateness 2003-03
        Hausser Building
        1135 Commerce Ave.
        Jim Bakunowicz, Member/Agent
        The Cash Vault, LLC

Jim Bakunowicz, member of The Cash Vault, LLC presented his project to the Commission. He
had purchased the property from Screen Print Northwest, which was in poor shape and would
like to completely renovate it. His original intention was to rip the front of the building off.

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However, he is trying to renovate it now considering that the building is on the Local Register.
He noted that the front of the building is bowed out which creates a structural problem with
refacing the building. The proposed drawings keep some of the building’s elements. He would
like to install artificially stucco to cover cracks in the bricks. Inside, Mr. Bakunowicz would like
to remove all the interior support posts replacing them with I-beams to create one open area for a
proposed entertainment venue. The rear of the building is visible from 15th Ave. and would also
be renovated with the addition of glass blocks. He emphasized that the building he is would like
to renovate does not have any significant historic value in its present condition.

Chairman Cam Hanna noted that historical value is relative in his opinion. The building may
have had more historical value within the Downtown but the impact in the creation of the City’s
development is a good question. As gatekeepers, the Commission has the responsibility to
preserve these buildings, because once they’re gone, they’re gone. Chairman Hanna asked Mr.
Bakunowicz if he would like the building off the register because that is a different process or
could the Commission work with him. Mr. Bakunowicz recapped his earlier conversation with
staff saying that structurally if he had to put the building back to the original style and that is
unknown what does he do? He would like to do it in the most economical way. Mr.
Bakunowicz stated that he had to put the heating and air condition unit in the adjacent building
and duct it in to 1135 Commerce, now discussed, because it was historic and noted that it was
much more costly to do so.

Chairman Hanna noted that the interior can be renovated without a problem. Mr. Bakunowicz
said that if he could achieve his goals and keep it on the register that would be terrific. He would
like to put an awning on to match his building. The entrance doors would change to a heavier
duty commercial door. Chairman Hanna confirmed that the single door would lose its inset,
beginning at the glass blocks behind the property line, and the double doors would remain as is.
Mr. Bakunowicz noted that the alcove inset creates a security problem and he wanted to
eliminate it. A window would be installed at the same height or perhaps he would use glass
blocks. He would also cover the display window with panels. Cam Hanna noted that we should
have had a site visit prior to the meeting to confirm the differences between the artist rendering
and the verbal plans. He noted that the renderings are conceptual and that details can change.

Mrs. Bakunowicz asked if the Commission believes that this building has historical value.
Chairman Hanna said that the answer would have to be yes, stating that the value is in the
architectural design of the building. There are many different types of architecture and each one
should reflect its own design and characteristics of the time period. Chairman Hanna supported
the work that the owners are doing to update the building. He noted that updating the building
was important to continue its viability. Mrs. Bakunowicz asked what is the easiest way to do the
renovations and keep the building on the register? Mr. Bakunowicz explained the signage design
and lighting he proposes, which resembles chase lights. Sallie Kiggins was pleased that the
mezzanine windows would remain in place. Mr. Bakunowicz noted that those windows would
be covered from the exterior with pictures. The rear entrance would be used as an addition to the
main entrance to divert some parking closer to the building.

Mrs. Bakunowicz suggested a site visit to the property. Mr. Millspaw stated that if the meeting
were to be continued, the Special Property Use application which is to be heard by the Planning
Commission would stipulate that approval would be contingent on receiving a the Historic
Preservation Commission Certificate of Appropriateness. Chairman Hanna agreed and requested

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a more detailed description of the work to be undertaken. The application filed requesting the
Certificate only included a rendering, but no specifications of work to be done. Mr. Bakunowicz
described that under the windows show glass blocks but it is actually being coated over so the
building is similar on both sides. Chairman Hanna noted that regarding the sign, some of it
concerns him and that it is changeable. We need to be sensitive and not set a precedent. The
details of the door’s inset and door detail also need to be shown. Mr. Bakunowicz will also be
making this entrance handicapped accessible. Mrs. Bakunowicz understood that the historical
plans and downtown plan needed to be followed and wanted to work as a team and although they
want to preserve the front of the building, they don’t want to have unexpected expenses. The
signs, for example, need to be approved ahead according to the requirements. There was a
(size/location) problem with the sign on there current building which could have been resolved
before it was approved and installed. They would like to avoid any problems this time.
Chairman Hanna added that a new rendering would not be needed and did not need the owners to
make an additional expenditure, but he did want more specifications.

Dave Struab made a motion to continue the issuance of the Certificate of Appropriateness over to
the next meeting on July 17th and Sallie Kiggins seconded the motion. The motion was
unanimously approved.

A site visit was scheduled for 2 PM on July 17th before the regularly scheduled Historic
Preservation meeting.

Historic Preservation Sign Provisions
Principal Planner Robert Millspaw noted the adopted sign standards for historic buildings. He
stated that the downtown commercial district does have an approved sign code. He would
consider the historic preservation sign code as guidelines for historic buildings. Chairman Hanna
noted that the Commission can approve or deny the Certificate of Appropriateness, and the
owner can appeal it, regarding signage or other requirements.

The recommendation from the Downtown Advisory Committee regarding a mural is that it is
painted on a wall. It also contains no advertising in a word, logo, or symbol and could be
unlimited in size. If the mural contains any advertising by ordinance, it is considered as a sign.
The decorative panels therefore on the windows would not be considered a mural.

Mr. Millspaw reminded the Commission that the Special Property Use sought for this project
would be conditioned on the applicant obtaining the Certificate of Appropriateness as well. If
the Planning Commission denies the Special Use Permit petition, the owners may appeal that
decision to the City Council, and then Superior Court.

Chairman Hanna said that one of the issues with downtown was the mini-blinds and covering
windows; it leaves the no interaction between the building and the community. He noted that the
design covering the windows is no different that walling it in. Principal Planner Millspaw noted
that there might be a regulation regarding gambling establishments that prevent seeing into the
building. He opined that, based on the artist rendering submitted by Mr. Bakunowicz the rear
elevation of the building would be considered a sign, and not a mural. The entire business with
its multiple buildings may be limited to the maximum 150 square foot signage requirement,
specified in the LMC. He will confirm whether the calculation would be considered for each

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individual building in the business or if the buildings would now be considered one building per
the Building Official.

Opening of Japanese Garden
Cam Hanna encouraged the Commission to visit the new Japanese Gardens if they haven’t
already done so.

D.      Adjournment

With no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 4:20

Julie Hourcle`, Assistant Planner

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