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Bridging the
Communications Gap(s)
June 6, 2007
Kevin L. Esposito, MBA JD
Director – Electronic Discovery
Pfizer Inc.
Biography
Kevin L. Esposito, MBA JD is currently the Director of Electronic Discovery at Pfizer Inc in
New York. Prior to becoming an attorney, he developed and managed global technology
support organizations for United Parcel Service for 17 years.
He is a frequent speaker at technology, legal and records management conferences. He
specializes in bridging the communications gap that exists between business people,
technologists and lawyers.
Kevin is a senior faculty member at the University of Phoenix, where he is author or co-
author of courses related to both technology and The Law. He also served as Visiting
Lecturer in Electronic Commerce at LaSalle University in Philadelphia.
He maintains offices in New York and New Jersey.
A Key Challenge For Businesses
Information Technology from the Legal Perspective
Legal From the Information Technology Perspective
Business Transformation – 1990 to 2000
Business
End
End
Business Integration
Integration Operations
Operations Finance
Finance Consumer
Consumer
Dvlp.
Dvlp. Svcs.
Svcs.
Goods
Information
Funds
Integration
Integration End
End
Business Svcs.
Business Svcs. Operations
Operations Consumer
Consumer
Dvlp.
Dvlp. Finance
Finance
What Is Discoverable ?
The Players
Plaintiffs – Original Creators of E-discovery Weapons
Shift the battle away from the merits to trying to create a perception of spoliation
Use cost as a weapon to force concessions
Switch to fights over use of overbroad preservation/protection letters
Defendants – Uninformed and Unprepared
Little understanding of internal processes
Less understanding of IT processes
Lack of reference or resistance results in large discovery costs
Judiciary – Losing Patience
No longer persuaded by undue burden arguments
Not inclined to shift costs
Focus on “reasonable process”
The Team Members
Lawyers – No Longer In Control
Focus on non-legal issues have them stumped
Don’t know how to articulate their needs
Concerned about perceptions within and without
IT – Don’t Know Their Own Strength
Don’t realize the legal impact of “standard” IT actions
Can’t articulate what they do or could do to assist
Don’t deal well with carbon based life forms
Business People – Want Both To Just Go Away
Don’t believe that lawyers qualify as “life forms”
Can’t understand why e-discovery is such a big issue
Feel e-discovery takes their attention away from business
Feel it’s “legal’s” problem to deal with
What We Have Here…
George Bernard Shaw was right
Rosetta Stone can’t help
Talk to WHO??
Talk isn’t cheap
The blame game is fun
Why don’t you know your systems?
Why can’t you centralize?
Why are you being difficult?
The search for the “One Guy”
A Dilbert Moment
“Horses For Courses” – How To Approach
One size does not fit all – all need to realize that
Reasonability versus perfection – compromises will be
necessary
Scope and breadth shift with situation but preparation
must be uniform
No second chances
Leave no functions out of the discussion – all have a
role to play
Legal
Information Technology
Business Managers
Records Managers
Initial Steps – Is Our House In Order?
Who is in charge of records – formal and otherwise?
Has legal had input into records management policies?
If so – when? Should this be revisited?
Are the policies enforced?
How are legal holds implemented? How enforced?
What is your email and instant messenger policy?
How many records systems do you have?
Collaboration tools and Workspaces?
How many offsite vendors?
Outside law firms?
Do we have the right people to tell our story or do
we need to groom them?
Pitfalls to Effective Communication
Lack of commonality in discussions
Litigation and investigations are backwards
facing – “we got rid of those guys”
The need for a document is directly inverse
to its number of appearances in your
archives which increases stress
The DaVinci Construct not in use
Bad information in case decisions
Recreation of data is rarely possible with
confidence
White Lies They’ll Tell you
No one will ever ask for those _____
We don’t have the budget for those
We don’t have the space for those
It’s too complicated to combine
data/systems/paper
That will be handled by the usual business
processes
No need for new processes – they’re fixed
by the new vendor/system
Technically, Anything is Possible
Strapping New Technology to Old Business
Processes Decreases Value
Cost Barriers to Communication
Cost model is broken
Wrong behaviors incented
Cost per page, per gigabyte, per custodian
Penalties for frequent use
Who bears the cost within the team?
Legal vs IT vs Corporate
This Old House Effect
Latest trend or gizmo provides relief
Cost increases as time decreases
(Stress increases, too)
Finding Ways to Speak
Just start talking
Don’t wait hoping to meet “under better
circumstances”
Frequent communication helps to gain trust and
improve perceptions
Get creative – Find a way to convert issues
Allegories aren’t just for children’s tales
Correct stereotypes – CSI versus “Law and
Order”
Be respectful, but don’t stop the dialogue
If all else fails…
Invoke your deity of choice
Learn WHY – talk and LISTEN to each
other
Assemble whatever fragment is available
Develop a comprehensive story
Immediately establish remediation plans
Reinforce required feedback
Rudyard Kipling and the Roman General
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