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                              User Group Meeting
                            Paris, 27-28 October 1998

  Source:         User Group Chairman

  Title:          Report on ATA Stockholm meeting

  Agenda item: 7.4

  Document for:      Decision
                     Discussion    X
                     Information
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WM Services
Proprietor W.J.Mellors




          User aspects of the 4th ATA meeting
                 Stockholm 22nd - 26th June 1998
                         Attended by W.J.Mellors
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     User aspects of the 4th Analogue Terminals and Access (ATA) meeting
                       Stockholm 22nd - 26th June 1998
             Attended by W. J. Mellors on behalf of the User Group



The meeting was held in the Globen Hotel, which provided commercial conference facilities and due to
the cost of photocopying, the work of the meeting was intended to be carried out completely without
paper copies of documents, everyone being expected to provide their own portable PC with electronic
copies of temporary documents which had been loaded onto the ETSI server..
There was some confusion over the starting date of the meeting as the meeting was officially arranged
to start on the Tuesday afternoon, but informal rapporteurs' discussions had been scheduled for the
Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning and the status of these discussions was not clear. In the
event the sessions were taken as meetings of ATAc (the conventional technologies group) and the
time was given to a preliminary run through of some of the TDs to identify controversial points and
seek preliminary solutions.
At this "pre-meeting" it was pointed out to me that as I was not an ETSI member in my own right, but
just a representative of the user group, I would only be allowed to speak on subjects of particular
interest to the user group.
The meeting opened fully on Tuesday afternoon with Nuno Encarnacao (OFCOM) in the Chair. There
were 47 delegates attending from 31 ETSI members.
The Chairman reported that ATA would be taking over the terminals work from Corporate Networks
(CN) and Multimedia Terminals and Access (MTA). He also reported that like ATA, DTA were also
having difficulty getting rapporteurs and that there was some support for the idea of turning ATA and
DTA projects into a single terminals Committee. It was said that many companies now found it difficult
to support standardisation projects.
The Chairman apologised to me for inducing me to be a rapporteur for a work item and said that when
he found that I was “not in condition to take on the rapporteurship” (not being an ETSI member), the
document that had been prepared had to be withdrawn. He pointed out that I was at the meeting in an
observer capacity representing the User Group.
It was noted that I and Berndt Martensen would provide liaison from and to the User Group
respectively.
The Chairman reported the approval by national voting and the publication of TBR 38 which sets out
the "essential" speech performance requirements for handset telephony. A new draft of the access
requirements for telephony was agreed during the meeting.
A proposal for a Technical Report listing those ETSI documents that had been published by ATA or
which were currently its responsibility was opposed by John Long (DTI) although the usefulness of the
information was endorsed by the members present. The work item was rejected but it was agreed that
the secretariat would publish the information on the ATA web site. Rapporteurs were asked to input
abstracts of their documents to be included with the information. It is expected that this additional
information would be of value to users of standards.
A number of new "Analogue Display Signalling Services were proposed originally by Deutche Telekom
who wished to market PSTN services equivalent to those used on the ISDN. In the event it was
realised that little progress could be made without more detailed stage 1 descriptions of the services
being proposed and matters were delayed until a meeting with NA 2 in October.
Speaking as Specialist Task Force leader of STF 117 I drew attention to TD 43 which noted that work
was ongoing in TC-HF to set up a register of service codes for new services and described the
proposed procedure for the allocation of such codes.
The incoming liaisons were unfortunately left until the final plenary giving little time for their
consideration.
I introduced TD 20 which described work in the User Group on a residential Gateway and asked
members to provide information on any ATA standards that were relevant to the work. Opinion was
expressed that there was little market for this type of service as it had been around for many years and
had not been taken up. John Long pointed out that in the current liberalised environment it was not the
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function of the telecom operator to define the requirements for terminal equipment. A liaison to this
effect to TC-HF (TD 67) was drawn up and agreed. (During the meeting it had been agreed to cease
the work item on the requirements for remote meter reading as there was no longer any support for the
activity).
I was permitted briefly to refer members to my paper TD 26 on Multimedia and xDSL asking for
technical comment as to its correctness before it was circulated amongst the User Group. No adverse
comment was received.
I then drew attention to proposals in TD 42 for a universal interface for telephony terminals which would
permit the connection of facilities for disabled users. The proposal arose from work in the Working
Group for Hearing Impaired in the UK and I asked for comments on the feasibility and likely price. The
proposed interface was similar to that on ISDN equipment specified in I-ETS 300 245-4 and was based
upon work on an interface for cordless headsets that was ongoing in a European industry forum. There
was no time for any comment to be received at the meeting.
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The next meeting of ATA will be from the 7 to 11 December in South Africa at a venue to be
announced, probably near Pretoria.
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7.4         Liaisons in

Liaisons were received from:
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      ? STF 117 (TD 43) detailing, for information, information on the allocation of supplementary
        service codes for new services. No response from ATA is necessary.

      ? W Mellors, on behalf of the user group, (TD 41) requesting information relating to standards for
        a residential gateway. The ATA response is given in TD 67 R01.

10. Any other business

10.1           User group

Wally Mellors drew the members attention to documents on the residential gateway (TD 41), the
Universal Disability Interface (TD 42) and xDSL technologies (TD 26).

								
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