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                                       UNCOMFIRMED MINUTES

                         RMC Meeting Minutes
                       Tuesday & Wednesday 06/19-20/2007

                             Crowne Plaza Atlanta-Buckhead
                                3377 Peachtree Road NE
                                   Atlanta GA 30326
                                 Phone: 404-264-1111

Note: presentations are posted on the RMC web site in the folder
      under minutes associated to this meeting. Where reference is
      made in the minutes to See Presentation #x, open the file on
      the web with the corresponding number.


In the minutes below:
             Discussions are documented in Blue
             Actions are documented in Red
             Decisions are documented in Sea Green
1.     Day One Welcome, Introductions, Ground rules                                     Vince May
       See Presentation #1
             Welcomed new RMC members in attendance:
               David Day - GE Aviation
               George Nota - L3 Communications



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         Proxies for RMC Members as follows:
           Patrice Bleau for Colin Clarke - Bombardier
           John Rogers for Mike Gallagher - LockheedMartin
           Frank Gritsko for Pete Krutoholow - UTC
2.   Day One Morning session was dedicated to Sub Team Meetings
     and as such, detail minutes, actions, and discussion have been
     captured by the Sub Team Leader
         Update on RMC Documentation sub-team          Bryan Milne
     See Presentation #2
         RMC Draft procedures reviewed:
           AAQG RMC AS9104-2 Oversight Process           Susie Neal
     See Presentation #2a
           RMC Operating Procedures                    Mike Roberts
     See Presentation #2b
3.   Organizational Summary                               Vince May
     See Presentation #3
4.   ANAB Report                                         Lori Scheid
     See Presentation #4
5.   INMETRO Report                                    Vladia Perez
     See Presentation #5
6.   SCC Report                                                   NA
     See Presentation #6
7.   Auditor Review Report                                 Will Tate
     See Presentation #7
         Review of draft RMC procedure 103
     See Presentation #7a
8.   Surveillance Team Report                            Susie Neal
         General discussion centered on the Surveillance Team
          objectives and schedule - details are captured by the
          Surveillance Team and not of public domain


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     See Presentation #8
9.   Day Two Welcome, Introductions, Ground rules       Vince May
     See Presentation #9
10. Authorities Report                              Buck Crenshaw
     See Presentation #10
11. IAQG OPMT Report (Resolution Log)                  Rick Downs
     See Presentation #11
         Reminder: - The AAQG RMC will be reviewed by the OPMT
          during the October Orlando IAQG meeting - Vince / Tim to
          establish any RMC preparatory efforts
12. IAQG / SAE Memorandum of Understanding           Mike Roberts
     See Presentation #12
13. IAQG Future Funding Team Report                  Mike Roberts
     See Presentation #13
14. RMC Documentation Team                             Bryan Milne
     See Presentation #14
15. AS9104-1 Revision                                Mike Roberts
     See Presentation #15
16. AS9104-2 & -3 - Implementation                   Patrice Bleau
     See Presentation #16
17. Electronic Training & AS9104/3               Shanya Salamaca
     See Presentation #17
18. Virtual Learning (eTraining)                     Dave Sanicola
     See Presentation #18
19. Review and update RMC Action Item Log                Ed Bayne
     See Presentation #19




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    Lori Scheid provided clarification on intent of CoI in 9104-2
     relative to moonlighting assessors working for CBs and then
     assessing other CBs
      9104-2 section 4.4 clearly states that an OEM employees
       who performs contract auditing services for a CB (at any
       technology i.e. ISO, TL, ICOP, etc.) shall not be an industry
       OP Assessor
1.   RMC Members will not put forward an OP Assessor that has
     any contract relationship with a CB and the RMC Oversight /
     Surveillance Team will ensure no OP Assessors are put
     forward that have any contract relationship with a CB.
2.   RMC agreed to submit a statement to the AAQG Chair and
     AAQG Membership chair stating when the RMC will
     implement the revised AAQG 102 Membership Procedure,
     requiring 20 RMC Members and which therefore requires 11
     Auditor Review Committee members. Long term is to
     change the requirements on the number of Auditor Review
     Committee members.
1.   Action for Vince May to submit a statement to the AAQG
     Chair and AAQG Membership chair stating when the RMC will
     implement the revised AAQG 102 Membership Procedure,
     requiring 20 RMC Members and which therefore requires 11
     Auditor Review Committee members.
3.   RMC agreed to start developing a procedure for handling
     resolutions which may allow for interpretations and changes
     to IAQG & AAQG issued technical writings published by SAE.
     This procedure will be presented to the RMC and then AAQG
     for ballot prior to submitting to SAE. Reason is to ensure the
     RMC is operating under the rules of the SAE as we are an SAE
     committee.
2.   Action to Bryan Milne RMC Document 101 chair to start
     developing a procedure for handling resolutions which may
     allow for interpretations and changes to IAQG & AAQG
     issued technical writings published by SAE. This procedure
     will be presented to the RMC and then AAQG for ballot prior
     to submitting to SAE. Reason is to ensure the RMC is



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             operating under the rules of the SAE as we are an SAE
             committee.
20. Open Discussion - CRB Issues Concerns, Q&A, Meeting Critique
            SAE creating report on CRB invoices revealed inconsistencies
             in SAE/CRB invoices - CRB - please close loop on all invoices
             - don’t just ignore them.
            Request made to have RMC look at themselves to determine
             if RMC represents the MRO side.
            CBs requested to check OASIS entries and clean up and
             errors (Jay Myers asset to provide assistance / help)
            Color scheme for presentations needs improvement - i.e.
             don’t use red text on blue background, etc.
            Sub-team sessions are not a working session, but ends up as
             redundant report out.
21. Closing Remarks to RMC group                                              Vince May
22. Adjourned at 12:01pm


Registrar Management Committee Meeting Attendees
Tuesday 06/19/2007

Attendees Legend:
Name:        VM = Voting Members; M = RMC Member
Affiliation: AB = Accreditation Body; AAB = Auditor Authentication Body;
             AAC = Authorities, Academia, Customer; CRB = Certification/Registration Body
             OEM = AAQG Member; SAE = SAE; Guest = Any other entity

          Name                          Company                            Affiliation
M           Ed   Bayne (Secretary)      Boeing                                     OEM
        Kevin    Beard                  NQA-USA                                    CRB
        Larry    Beck                   Lockheed Martin                            OEM
         Fred    Becker                 TRC                                        CRB
        David    Bissell                TUV Sud America                            CRB
M         Carl   Blazik                 IAAR / SAI                                 CRB
       Partice   Bleau                  Bombardier                                 OEM
       George    Castro                 DQSUSA Inc                                 CRB
M        Buck    Crenshaw               Jet Propulsion Laboratory                  AAC
VM      David    Day                    GE Aviation                                OEM


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           Paul    Dionne             Intertek                     CRB
VM         Rick    Downs              Textron                      OEM
        William    Dupre              RW TUV                       CRB
         Bobby     Etheredge          AMSAC                       Guest
          Steve    Gaylord            Eaton Aerospace              OEM
VM        Frank    Gritsko            UTC                          OEM
          Larry    Henderson          BSI                          CRB
         Donna     Herring            United Space Alliance       Guest
         Trudy     Keaveney           NQA-USA                      CRB
         Viktor    Kirby              Trader Viks                  CRB
            Joe    Krachie            SAI-Global                  Guest
VM         Mike    Levy               Rolls-Royce                  OEM
     Alexander     Madison            Underwriters Laboratories    CRB
           Alice   Mata               BRTUV                        CRB
VM        Vince    May (Vice Chair)   Honeywell                    OEM
VM       Bryan     Milne              Gulfstream                   OEM
             Jay   Myers              SAE                          SAE
VM        Susie    Neal               Goodrich                     OEM
VM      George     Nota               L-3 Communications           OEM
        Walter     O’Connor           TUV - USA                    CRB
VM           Jay   Park               Northrop Grumman             OEM
        Robert     Parsons            NQA-USA                      CRB
VM       Vladia    Perez              Embraer                      OEM
          Linda    Price              Boeing                       OEM
M          Stan    Purwin             Johns Hopkins Univ / APL     AAC
        George     Ringger            Aviation Suppliers Assoc.   Guest
VM         Mike    Roberts            Boeing                       OEM
       Spencer     Rodgers            Spirit AeroSystems           OEM
           John    Rogers             Lockheed Martin              OEM
        Shanya     Salamaca           RABQSA                       AAB
          David    Sanicola           SAI-Global                  Guest
M           Lori   Scheid-Gillespie   ANAB                          AB
         Chuck     Schleyer           PRG                          CRB
        Denise     Shaw               DQSUSA Inc                   CRB
VM          Will   Tate               Vought                       OEM
         Duane     Taylor             Aerojet                     Guest
        Robert     Tibbetts           SQA                          CRB
        Sandra     Tokola             DAC Audit Service           Guest
            Ben    Tuley              Excel Partnership           Guest
VM         Rich    Vinton             Raytheon                     OEM
VM         Rick    Wilcox             Spirit AeroSystems           OEM
            Jeff   Wood               SAE                          SAE


Tuesday 06/19/2007 Attendance Statistics
                      Attendance:           Total     52
                                            AAB (PCB)  1
                                            AAC        2
                                            ABs        1


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                                               CRBs          17
                                               Guests         8
                                               OEMs          21
                                               SAE            2

                    Represented:               ABs            1
                                               CRBs          14
                                               OEMs          17


Registrar Management Committee Meeting Attendees
Wednesday 06/20/2007

Attendees Legend:
Name:        VM = Voting Members; M = RMC Member
Affiliation: AB = Accreditation Body; AAB = Auditor Authentication Body;
             AAC = Authorities, Academia, Customer; CRB = Certification/Registration Body
             OEM = AAQG Member; SAE = SAE; Guest = Any other entity

          Name                          Company                            Affiliation
         Chris   Atherton               Contract AIEA                             Guest
M           Ed   Bayne (Secretary)      Boeing                                     OEM
        Kevin    Beard                  NQA-USA                                    CRB
         Larry   Beck                   Lockheed Martin                            OEM
          Fred   Becker                 TRC                                        CRB
        David    Bissell                TUV Sud America                            CRB
M         Reg    Blake                  IAAR / BSI America                         CRB
M         Carl   Blazik                 IAAR / SAI                                 CRB
       Partice   Bleau                  Bombardier                                 OEM
     Kathleen    Boyle                  Verify                                    Guest
       George    Castro                 DQSUSA Inc                                 CRB
         Judy    Chapman                Parker Hannifin                            OEM
M        Buck    Crenshaw               Jet Propulsion Laboratory                  AAC
      Dorinda    Curran                 Boeing                                     OEM
VM      David    Day                    GE Aviation                                OEM
          Paul   Dionne                 Intertek                                   CRB
VM        Rick   Downs                  Textron                                    OEM
      William    Dupre                  RW TUV                                     CRB
        Bobby    Etheredge              AMSAC                                     Guest
        Diane    Geldreich              AQA International                          CRB
          Don    Grainger               Harris Corp                               Guest
VM      Frank    Gritsko                UTC                                        OEM
         Larry   Henderson              BSI                                        CRB
       Donna     Herring                United Space Alliance                     Guest
     Anderson    Jacinth                ABS QE                                     CRB
        Trudy    Keaveney               NQA-USA                                    CRB



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         Viktor    Kirby              Trader Viks                  CRB
            Joe    Krachie            SAI-Global                  Guest
           Pete    Kucan              PRI Registrar                CRB
VM         Mike    Levy               Rolls-Royce                  OEM
         Phylis    Logan              PRI Registrar                CRB
     Alexander     Madison            Underwriters Laboratories    CRB
           Alice   Mata               BRTUV                        CRB
VM        Vince    May (Vice Chair)   Honeywell                    OEM
VM       Bryan     Milne              Gulfstream                   OEM
            Jay    Myers              SAE                          SAE
VM        Susie    Neal               Goodrich                     OEM
VM      George     Nota               L-3 Communications           OEM
        Walter     O’Connor           TUV - USA                    CRB
VM          Jay    Park               Northrop Grumman             OEM
        Robert     Parsons            NQA-USA                      CRB
VM       Vladia    Perez              Embraer                      OEM
          Linda    Price              Boeing                       OEM
M          Stan    Purwin             Johns Hopkins Univ / APL     AAC
        George     Ringger            Aviation Suppliers Assoc.   Guest
VM         Mike    Roberts            Boeing                       OEM
       Spencer     Rodgers            Spirit AeroSystems           OEM
           John    Rogers             Lockheed Martin              OEM
         Chuck     Russo              ABS QE                       CRB
        Shanya     Salamaca           RABQSA                       AAB
         David     Sanicola           SAI-Global                  Guest
M           Lori   Scheid-Gillespie   ANAB                          AB
         Chuck     Schleyer           PRG                          CRB
        Denise     Shaw               DQSUSA Inc                   CRB
        Robert     Starkweather       AQA International            CRB
VM          Will   Tate               Vought                       OEM
         Duane     Taylor             Aerojet                     Guest
        Robert     Tibbetts           SQA                          CRB
        Sandra     Tokola             DAC Audit Service           Guest
            Ben    Tuley              Excel Partnership           Guest
VM         Rich    Vinton             Raytheon                     OEM
VM         Rick    Wilcox             Spirit AeroSystems           OEM
            Jeff   Wood               SAE                          SAE


Wednesday 06/20/2007 Attendance Statistics
                      Attendance:           Total        63
                                            AAB (PCB)     1
                                            AAC           2
                                            ABs           1
                                            CRBs         24
                                            Guests       11
                                            OEMs         22
                                            SAE           2


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          Represented:   ABs     1
                         CRBs   17
                         OEMs   17




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