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Crime & Disorder Reduction Partnership
Minutes
29 January 2009 at 6.30pm
Civic Offices
Attendees: (as per attendance sheets received after meeting)
Chief Inspector Sian Lockley Hertfordshire Constabulary
Jaqueline Townsend Resident
PC Curran Hertfordshire Constabulary
PC Cross Hertfordshire Constabulary
Stuart Nagler Hertfordshire Police Authority
Kevin Fenton Neighbourhood Watch
Brian Conbeer William Sutton Homes
John Godfrey Potters Bar CRG Chair
John Howley Aldenham Parish Council
Rosamund Gray Radlett & Aldenham Good Neighbours
Cllr Ian Dempster South Mimms Parish Council
Cllr Martin Saunders Hertfordshire County Council
Peter Cargill Hertfordshire Fire & Rescue
Trevor Brown Hertfordshire Fire & Rescue
Barry Pryke Hertfordshire Fire & Rescue
Mark Cheshire Hertfordshire County Council
Ian Markwell Hertfordshire County Council
Cllr Silver Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr David Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Wayne Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Batten Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Butler Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Harrison Hertsmere Borough Council
Dennis Sandor Neighbourhood Watch
Robert Gamble Resident
Cllr Gamble Hertsmere Borough Council
Leo Neita Metropolitan Housing
Amy Jeffrey Hertfordshire Constabulary
Sue Taylor Hertfordshire Constabulary
Cllr Donne (Chairman) Hertsmere Borough Council
Valerie Kane Hertsmere Borough Council
Loran Kingston (Minutes) Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Bright Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Parnell Hertsmere Borough Council
1. Welcome and apologies
The Chairman welcomed everyone to the meeting and thanked the Mayor of Hertsmere,
Cllr Sandra Parnell and Leader of the Council, Cllr Bright for their attendance at the
meeting.
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Apologies
Cllr Pat Strack Hertsmere Borough Council
Cllr Di Hoeksma Hertsmere Borough Council
Roy Hotchkiss Bushey Churches Together
Cllr Metcalf Hertfordshire County Council
Estelle Samuelson Aldenham Parish Council
Brenda Griffiths Hertfordshire Police Authority
Bonnie Joyce
2. Minutes of Previous Meeting held on 27 October 2008 at
6.30pm and Matters Arising
The minutes were agreed as an accurate record of the meeting.
Cllr Batten did give her apologies at the previous meeting, however this was not
recorded in the minutes.
3. CDRP Champions
The Leader of the Council, Cllr Morris Bright told the group he was delighted to be here
on this occasion and see the champions receiving their awards for the contribution and
commitment they have given to Hertsmere’s CDRP.
The Leader of the Council informed the group that the 2008 residents survey has now
been completed and the results from the survey are very positive. 1000 residents were
surveyed on their life style, services and the local area.
In 2002 fear of crime was the highest factor with 22% of residents concerned with this.
In 2005 this reduced by 50% to 15% and in 2008 it has reduced further to 13%.
This clearly shows that the work that the Crime & Disorder Partnership is doing is having
an affected on the fear of crime, the Leader offered his thanks to all the agencies
involved.
The Mayor of Hertsmere, Cllr Sandra Parnell was introduced to proceed with the awards
ceremony.
Hertsmere CDRP relies heavily on its partner agencies to work together to make
Hertsmere a safer place to live and work. Occasionally individuals within those agencies
give a little bit extra. It is those individuals who we wish to recognise this evening.
Andy Chittenden served as a police officer with Hertfordshire Constabulary for many
years and was extremely pro-active within the Partnership. He worked with
Hertfordshire Highways addressing such issues as street lighting and traffic
management. He was instrumental in setting up CARM the Campaign for Off Road
Motorcycles.
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Unfortunately Andy is unable to join us this evening, however, we will present his award
to him at the next CDRP meeting on 20 April 2009.
PC SCOTT CURRAN
Hertsmere’s CCTV Control Room team are pleased to present their first ‘CCTV Police
Officer of the Year Award’ to Scott Curran.
This award is given in recognition of the tremendous help, support and assistance given
by Scott to all staff in the Control Room.
Scott works for Hertfordshire Constabulary on Hertsmere’s Intervention Team and
responds to incidents that the Control Room has initiated with enthusiasm and efficiency.
The Control Room team values the working relationship they have with Scott and hope
to have more CCTV successes during 2009.
PC Scott Curran accepted the tankard as a token of their appreciation.
BARRY PRYKE
Barry has recently retired from Hertfordshire Fire and Rescue Service after completing
some 30 years.
Barry has worked at Borehamwood and Potters Bar Fire Stations as Commander and
has contributed to many of the partnership activities we have run over the years.
He was one of the ‘founding members’ of the Environmental Action Day planning group
set up in 2004 and we were fortunate to have him lead on many of the early events.
His tremendous support and sense of humour will be missed by the Partnership – we
wish him well in his retirement.
Barry Pryke accepted the plaque as a token of the CDRP’s extreme thanks.
STUART NAGLER
Stuart Nagler has been involved with Hertsmere’s CDRP from almost the beginning of
its inception and has been an integral part of its growth and expansion.
He has represented the Police Authority at a strategic level for many years and has
regularly engaged in our Crime Reduction Groups, having a slot on each of the five
groups agendas.
He has participated in many of our initiatives from environmental action days to
spotlights.
His commitment and enthusiasm will be greatly missed by the partnership but we wish
him every success with his role as Chair of Hertfordshire Police Authority.
Stuart Nagler accepted the plaque as a token of the CDRP’s thanks.
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4. Hertfordshire Police Authority
Stuart Nagler updated the group with the current operational issues, in the absence of
Brenda Griffiths.
All crime across the county is down by 4% and the current detection rate is 32.7%
against a target of 30%.
9 of the 10 CDRP’s have had an increase in burglary dwellings compared to the same
period to last year. Shoplifting offences have also increased and it is possible that the
current credit crunch is a contributing factor of this.
There are issues regarding the release of offenders from prisons. Currently Hertfordshire
Constabulary are not being made aware of when offenders are being released from
prison.
Vehicle crime is down by 10% across the county.
The powers that a Police Community Support Officer (PCSO) has are being reviewed
and there is a possibility that PCSO’s will have the power to detain criminals. There are
issues around this, as it would take PCSO’s away from being a visible presence.
The Policing Plan will be launched at the end of March 2009. There will be a single
target performance, which will look at how crime and anti social behaviour issues are
being dealt with by the partnership (CDRP).
Due to the budget falling, police forces across the country are merging to deliver
services. Hertfordshire Constabulary have collaborated with Bedfordshire to jointly
deliver 8-10 services already, e.g Professional Standards, Search & Rescue and SOCO.
5. Crime Statistics Update
Sian Lockley talked the group through a presentation. Please see attached.
Burglary Dwelling offences have increased, but the constabulary have done lots of work
around this issue and before Christmas a number of prolific offenders were arrested and
are currently in prison.
In Bushey this week there were 8 burglaries, but two offenders have been arrested,
charged and are currently in custody. There are dedicated burglary patrols being done
by officers.
6. Partnership Activity
Valerie Kane updated the group with the recent partnership activity and talked the group
through a presentation. Please see attached.
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Amy Jeffrey and Sue Taylor talked the group through a presentation on Halloween, the
initiatives that were run and the results of the analysis that was done. Please see
attached.
7. Safer Schools Partnership – how this works in Hertsmere
Sue Taylor talked the group through a presentation. Please see attached.
8. Questions and Answers
At the invitation of the Chairman, questions were put and responses given as follows:
Agenda item 4 – Police Authority
Cllr Butler stated that last year Hertsmere lost police officers to the Metropolitan Police
(MET) and wanted to know if there was a reason why.
Stuart Nagler explained that this was a problem as the Met pay more money and give
free travel allowance, although some officers do return to Hertfordshire as the quality of
life is better.
Cllr Saunders questioned whether or not the Police Authority will be able to afford
PCSO’s in next years budget.
Stuart Nagler informed the group that at present there are no concerns, especially as
some local authorities fund PCSO’s for their areas.
Cllr Bright questioned whether the cost of council tax should go up or whether the
money should come from the Government with regards to the decrease in the budget.
He also wanted to know how successful the new crime mapping system is and whether
it was updated on a regular basis.
Stuart Nagler explained that there had been a 2.96% increase from central government
but still relied on central grants and specific grants like Safer Stronger Communities
Fund (SSCF).
Stuart Nagler told the group that the crime mapping is good news and it is the
responsibility of the CDRP’s to respond and deal with issues.
Sian Lockley added that there are pro’s and con’s to the mapping as there is no context
around the figures.
Agenda Item 5 – Crime Statistics
Dennis Sandor commented on the crime mapping and wanted to know why his ward
was not on the map, why it did not show any of the hot spot areas and that it looks like
crime is increasing.
Sian Lockley explained that the crime mapping is a Home Office requirement and that
crime is down in Hertsmere.
Jacqueline Townsend questioned why the local residents don’t know who or how many
sex offenders live in the local area and if there are any areas they are not allowed in.
Sian Lockley informed the group that she as the Chief Inspector for Hertsmere knows
who and how many sex offenders there are in Hertsmere.
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Cllr Butler wanted to know if anything could be done to reduce violent crimes.
Sian Lockley informed the group that there has been 16 serious violent crimes this year
and most of them have been committed by people that know each other and young
people on young people. There is not a gang culture here in Hertsmere, its normally
people who know each other offending together in loose gatherings.
Cllr Butler questioned what was done about adults who use drugs in licensed premises.
Sian Lockley informed the group that itemiser events are regularly carried out and this
helps to identify where drugs are being used.
Cllr David stated that she was pleased to see that there were 88.2% user satisfaction for
racist incidents in Hertsmere. She also asked if Hertsmere suffered a high number of
burglaries due to the location whereby it’s on the boarder of the Met and all the main
motorways that are easily accessible to and from Hertsmere.
Sian Lockley told the group that monthly meetings are held with the Met where
intelligence is shared and discussed. Automatic Number Plate Recogniser (ANPR)
technology is here in Hertsmere, and several joint initiatives have been done in
conjunction with the Met police as a number of offenders travel into Hertsmere to
commit crime.
Agenda Item 7 – Safer Schools Partnership
John Godfrey questioned whether there are issues funding diversionary activities.
Sue Taylor explained that the funding is normally from the Extended Schools
Co-ordinators (ESCO’s), the CDRP and the local schools.
9. Any Other Business
Cllr Batten wanted to say well done, as there were several examples of good
partnership working.
John Godfrey asked if it was possible to create a document, which explained what the
acronyms are that are often used at meetings like these mean.
ACTION: Loran Kingston to do the above.
The Chairman thanked every one for attending the meeting and advised the group of
2009 CDRP meetings.
Dates of future meetings:
Wednesday 20 April 2009 at 6.30pm Civic Offices, Hertsmere Borough Council
Monday 13 July 2009 at 6.30pm Civic Offices, Hertsmere Borough Council
Tuesday 27 October 2009 at 6.30pm Civic Offices, Hertsmere Borough Council
If there is anything you wish to see as an agenda item at a future CDRP,
Please contact Valerie Kane on 020 8207 7801
or email partnership.support@hertsmere.gov.uk
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