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					Notes from:           Child & Family Support Forum

Date:                 6th September 2005

Present:              Claire Barlow (CARISMA), Tony Wright (Mary Seacole Trust), Caroline
                      Brown (City Centre Project), Megan Ohri (Voluntary Youth Manchester),
                      Ben Anderson (CN4M), John O’Donnell (Reach Out), Andrew Dalton
                      (Safe in the City), Judith Saffer (Depaul Trust Reconnect), Samantha
                      Taylor (South Manchester Community Network), Hugh Thorpe
                      (Manchester Carers Forum), Hilary Evans (North Manchester
                      Community Network). Frances Coller (After Adoption), Kelly Burrill
                      (Trinity House), M. Plait (Woodhouse Park Framily Centre), Martina
                      Street (Woodhouse Park Family Centre), Nancy Brown (ALL Community
                      Group Network), Mike Wild, (MACC), Ruth Craven (MACC) Joanne
                      Mcleod (MACC),

Apologies:            Deborah Rees (Barnardos)



1. Minutes from last meeting and matters arising

       Amendment to minutes (p1) - Mandy Bassi works for the Joint Children’s Unit not the
        Joint Health Unit.

       Amendment to minutes (p2) - Claire Barlow is not part of the ‘Manchester Community
        Engagement Strategy Working Group’

       A multi-agency Children & Young Peoples Steering group for food and physical
        activity has been set up. If anyone is interested in being involved in this or would like
        further information Ruth has the contact details.

       MACC will be holding a follow up event on the Adult Social Care Green Paper
        ‘Independence, Well-being and Choice’ in the near future. If you would like further
        information contact Ruth or Mike.

       Children & Family Fun day is taking place on 19th October at Moss Side Leisure
        Centre. For more information contact Claire at Carisma.

       A consultation on Stop and Search is taking place on 22 November at the Town Hall
        between 5pm – 7pm.

2. Children & Young People’s Pool Meeting

Mike gave an update on the function of this part of the meeting. The pool meeting is the key
mechanism for voluntary sector engagement in the Children and Young People’s Partnership
(CYPP) which is part of the Local Strategic Partnership (LSP). The CYPP is one of the key
city-wide multi-agency delivery groups responsible to the Children’s Board which meets
every six weeks.

Although anyone can go along to the CYPP meetings to observe, there are a limited number
of people who can officially represent the VCS in these meetings. John O’Donnell
(ReachOut!), Mike Wild (MACC) and Megan Ohri (VYM) go to the CYYP Partnership
meetings as representatives to feed in the views from the pool meeting.

A decision to combine the pool meeting with the Child & Family Support Forum meetings
was made because of an overlap in people who are interested in the pool meetings and the
Forum meetings.

    a. Feedback from last Children and Young People’s Partnership Meeting

   Deborah Cox (Joint Children’s Unit) gave a presentation on the Parenting Strategy, with a
    focus on work taking place around what is a good parent. Through consultation with
    parents, they are trying to devise a core offer to all parents across the city which will set
    out what support is available to parents including services, training and mentoring. There
    is work going on in Old Moat and Burnage as pilot areas. If anybody knows of any
    pieces of work that are going on in these areas around parenting then please speak to
    Deborah Cox.

   Muir Hunter (Children’s Fund) gave a presentation was on the Living Room Project. This
    is an internet site targeted for young people to find out information. There is a virtual
    bookshelf on different subjects and different themed rooms. The site address is
    www.thelivingroom.org.uk it is already live but not fully functional yet. This is good way
    for groups to communicate with young people directly. The Partnership discussed having
    a section on it for the Voluntary Sector.

   There was a brief discussion about the Young People’s Council and the fact that people
    feel its not really being effective. Megan Ohri is involved in the participation steering
    group and hoping to support the work to build up the Young People’s Council. A
    Participation Audit will be sent out to organisations and City Council departments who will
    have to fill this form in to show how they are engaging children and young people, if at all.

   The Neighbourhood Renewal Fund (NRF) subgroup are in discussions around how to
    combine the NRF with Children’s Fund money. This would remove some on the current
    restrictions in terms of how this money has to be spent. If local authorities can agree a
    way to prove that they are meeting their targets then there can be fluidity between funds
    in terms of what they are spent on, as long as the end result has a proper impact.

b. Partnership Meeting 09-09-05

A review of the structure of the CYPP Partnership has taken place and it has been agreed
that from October 2005 five sub-groups will be established around the five Every Child
Matters outcomes:

Being healthy
Staying safe
Enjoying and achieving
Making a positive contribution
Economic well-being

Representation from Children’s Services (education and social care), health and voluntary
and community sector will be core. Anyone who is interested in representing the voluntary
sector at these sub groups please contact Ruth.

c. Structure of Children & Young People’s Pool Meetings
There was discussion around how the pool meetings have become ineffective because of
changes to the role of the Partnership since the Children’s Board has been set up. It was
agreed that thought needed to go into how voluntary sector views can be effectively fed in.
Ruth will contact organisations who come to these meetings to get their views on why they
come. It was agreed that people would email agenda items they would like to be discussed
at the Partnership meetings to Ruth in advance of the next meeting (14 th October).

The three city-wide conferences ‘How do we work together’ that have been organised will be
a key mechanism to ensure voluntary/community sector groups feed in their concerns and
needs for young people and that viewpoints are taken on board. Everything we say at these
conferences should be written into the Children and Young People’s plan. This will then give
us a clear structure to monitor and evaluate to what extent our views are being taken into
account.


3. Child & Family Support Forum Meeting

a. Presentation on Extended Schools (Sally Chisholm)

Sally Chisholm works as an advisor within the Education Dept for the development of
extended schools. The aim of this programme is to transform services for young people in
their communities in order for their lives to be improved. There are 5 outcomes that the
government want to achieve in the next 5 years, below is the core offer:

Quality Childcare
       High quality childcare 8am – 6pm
       Year round (wraparound care) 48 wks.
       Provided on school site or through other local providers with supervised transfer
       arrangements
A varied menu of activities
       A varied menu of activities to be on offer such as homework clubs and study support,
       sport, music tuition, dance and drama, arts and crafts, special interest clubs, visit to
       museums and galleries, volunteering, business and enterprise activities
Parenting support
       Information sessions at key transition points
       Parenting programmes run with the support of other children’s services
       Family learning sessions to allow children to learn with their parents
Swift and easy referral
       Swift and easy referral to a wide range of specialist support services such as speech
       therapy, child and adolescent mental health services, intensive behaviour support and
       (for young people) sexual health services. Some may be delivered on school sites.
Community access
       Wider community access to ICT, sports and arts facilities including adult learning.

Extended schools have been around for a number of years on a voluntary basis i.e. it was up
to individual schools and ultimately the governing body of schools as to whether or not they
wanted to work in partnership with other organisations to provide access and opportunities
for young people around a whole range of different things e.g. sport, learning etc. All
schools now will be expected to build relationships with the voluntary and community sector
to enable them to provide the extended core offer of services.
Young people outside of school e.g. not attending school will not able to access this core
offer of services.

The target for Manchester is that by September 2006 30 schools (out of a total of 180) will be
providing the core offer of services. By 2008 half of all primary schools and one third of all
secondary schools will be providing the core offer; and by 2010 all schools will be providing
it.

All schools have to establish a ‘change team’ with all teachers involved in working out how
they need to work differently. This is being organised by a company called the National
Remodelling Team who are overseeing the roll-out of extended schools.

   b. Presentation on the Future of Commissioning – Mike Wild

This part of the meeting was postponed to the next meeting on 11 th October, 2005. Mike
briefly explained that the discussion would be around the commissioning process:
Assessing needs – planning what you are going to do about needs – delivering services -
evaluating – feeding that evaluation in needs assessment

We need to think about how the voluntary sector will best feed into this process and discuss
the issues around being part of the commissioning team.

   c. Update on work of the project worker

Ruth distributed the new Child and Family forum leaflets. The next district event is being
held on 7th September at Northmoor Community Centre, with the followin one on 27 th
October in the North West district covering Moss Side, Hulme, Fallowfield, Rusholme and
Whalley Range (venue to be confirmed). Ruth will be sending invitations out to groups in
those areas. The agenda for these events is:
    presentations around the changes that are taking to children’s services in Manchester
      from MACC and the Joint Children’s Unit
    discussion on the implications of these changes for the voluntary and community
      sector
    mapping exercise looking at how individual organisations contribute to the five Every
      Child Matters outcomes
    Discussion around the challenges of evaluating outcomes


4. Any other business

    Free training around the emotional well-being of refugee children and young people is
      taking place at Trinity house – 23 places. Ruth will send out the information on the
      next email bulletin.


Next Child and Family Support Forum Meeting:
11th October 2005 (9.30am – 11.30am) at the St Thomas Centre

				
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