BARGOED POLICE COMMUNITY LIAISON COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF A MEETING HELD AT THE YOUNG AT HEART, 31/32 HANBURY
ROAD, BARGOED ON MONDAY, 12TH FEBRUARY 2007 AT 6.30 P.M.
Present: S Lewis – Rhymney
J Cooper – Resident
K Jones – Bargoed Residents
Councillor Higgs – BTC/CCBC
Cllr Sue Hamer-Thomas – BTC Bargoed Action on Alcohol & Drugs
Terry Pearce – Bargoed North Road Neighbourhood Watch
Roy Lippiett – Gilfach Neighbourhood Watch
J G Evans – Bargoed Resident
C Trollope – Bargoed Resident
Cllr D Price - CCBC
Councillor D C Davies – Heolddu Cres, Bargoed
Mrs S A Bosson – Chief Executive & Clerk, Gwent Police Authority
Councillor H Andrews – Gwent Police Authority
Chief Superintendent Alun Thomas – Gwent Police
Inspector R Doidge – Gwent Police
The meeting commenced at 6.30 p.m.
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
1. Apologies for absence were received from Jeff Cuthbert, AM, Huw Lewis
AM, Edward Woosnam and Diane Thomas.
2. The minutes of the meeting held on the 13 th November 2006 were
3. Traffic Wardens – South Street – A large number of tickets had been
issued for both residents and commercial vehicles. Police had issued
fixed penalty notices and anyone not paying the fine would be pursued in
the usual manner via the Courts.
Lennox Club and MacDonald Road – Vehicles parked outside
premises. The residents were unhappy with the situation. The Police
were aware of the situation.
STATEMENT FROM THE POLICE AUTHORITY
4. A statement was read out by the Chief Executive & Clerk of the Gwent
Police Authority regarding the future of the Community Police Liaison
Committees. The Chief Executive & Clerk thanked the Committee for all
their hard work over the last 20 years.
Chief Superintendent Thomas confirmed there were now a large number
of opportunities for the public and community representatives to meet with
the police. He confirmed that there are:
Direct meetings between Officers/PCSOs
Key Individual Networks (KINs) – people the Force meet with and deal
with on a daily basis
Communities First/Community Partnerships
Street Surgeries – local Councillors and public
Regular meetings with Local Authority representatives
PACT – Partnership and Communities Together working with the Safer
Caerphilly Partnership. These will involve the public, elected
representatives who will bring forward issues; identify three priorities to
tackle the problems; feedback and repeat the process – clear
identification from public about problems, agreed action, assess impact.
All other meetings will continue to take place. Chief Superintendent
Thomas assured that he would continue to develop methods of
5. Concern was raised that the forum would be lost to the community. It had
been a very useful forum.
Chief Superintendent Thomas confirmed that all wards would have
PACTs in each electoral ward. A pilot scheme would start in Bargoed. It
could be linked into ‘can do’, which had proved very successful. The
proposal would hopefully broaden the representation.
The Police Authority member confirmed that the decision to phase out the
Police Community Liaison Committees was not taken likely, but, times
had changed and the view is that the community would be better served
by moving towards the PACTs and other engagement methods. By
working together all parties would be able to better tackle issues relating
to Community Safety.
One member felt that the public generally won’t get involved, they are
generally reluctant to come forward with issues. Smaller community
groups will not work.
Chief Superintendent Thomas – there are various forums available that
will continue. The pilots of PACT will be evaluated before they go
forward. Representation will continue with meeting and access to local
policing teams; public will also be able to leave messages by voice mail
for neighbouring police teams, contact with local inspectors will also
continue. This should result in a speedier approach.
A representative from Neighbourhood Watch raised concern that they
don’t have written reports on issues raised. Chief Superintendent
Thomas confirmed that Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinator had been
employed to develop the communication between police and the local
Neighbourhood Watch groups.
The Chairman asked members to consider whether they wanted to
continue the Committee until March 2008. This was agreed, to monitor
development of the new engagement process.
DIVISIONAL COMMANDER’S REPORT
6. Chief Superintendent Thomas presented an update in relation to
Neighbourhood Policing and supervision of the teams. He had decided to
take out a Sergeant from response policing to supervise the teams and
this has proved very effective. A Neighbourhood Sergeant will be
introduced into each team by 9th April. Members should see the work of
the Neighbourhood Team becoming more focused in future.
Performance within the County Borough is now back up to a reduction in
crime of 0.1% this year having struggled at the beginning of the year. The
Division is in the top quarter of most similar divisions with other most
similar forces. The only outstanding issue is to bring the CID team back
up to strength.
The opening of Rhymney police station was also good news.
Detective Inspector Ruth Price – explained that it had been a relatively
quiet period. Both Rhymney and Bargoed areas for violent crime and
dwelling housing burglary are well down.
One gentleman was assaulted last May – the offender was sentenced last
week for 12 years.
There are some concerns about distraction burglaries. The incident in
New Tredegar last week was perpetrated from outside the area. The
Force were working with South Wales Police on this. Members were
asked to make sure elderly residents were aware of these concerns,
check before letting anyone in.
7. Report by Temporary Inspector Rachel Hart – The Station is back in
operation. Since the last meeting the dispersal order has come into
effect. Previously the Section had 59 calls in one month, now down to 8
calls in each of the last two months. A Vehicle Crime Operation is
ongoing. Both Bargoed and Rhymney have high visibility days coming up,
one concentrating on young people and one on dealing with older people.
8. Report by Inspector Doidge – reported on the new Neighbourhood
Sergeant’s impact in the community.
Two day operation with British Transport which concentrated on speaking
to youths hanging around the Railway Stations.
Steve Williams, CADRO Bargoed – Vehicle crime issues Satellite
Navigation’s are favourites for criminals. Posters are being issued to
remind the public of the danger of getting Satellite Navigation equipment
The Section is working with other agencies to run operations on ANPR,
with DVLA. A two week campaign on illegal parking has been conducted,
49 fixed penalties, (first 20 in first day and a half) were issued. Major
problems are in the evening. Force taking positive action.
9i. Parking in Bargoed – Thanks were given to the Inspector for giving time
to explain about the crackdown on the parking issue. The member then
explained her concerns about reporting an incident to the police station.
Inspector Doidge apologised for not being available to speak to the
member. He did confirm that the clamping down on illegal parking had
been based on a zero tolerance policy.
ii. Cwmbran House; Rhymney – What steps are being taken by police if
there are incidents relating to patients in the house.
The house is not open yet. Police are doing a full operational audit,
together with research on other establishments. The police station will
not be open 24/7.
iii. Parking at Lennox Club, West Street, Bargoed – Residents not able to
park on the street due to the development at the Club. A similar situation
arises at MacDonald Street.
In relation to planning permission the police were not aware of the current
position on the premises. Inspector Doidge confirmed he had been trying
to tackle this issue and will be subject to future operations. Also West
Street has not got residential parking so difficult to issue any tickets.
iv. Mardy Crossing Junction , Rhymney – Two motorbikes speeding up
from Mardy Crossing between 1.30 p.m. and 10.00 p.m. Force is paying
attention to this incident.
v. Jerusalem Street, Rhymney – There will be a joint operation between
the Council and PCSOs to sort out speeding issues.
vi. Rhymney Police Station – It was reported that the Inspector is very
helpful. The station is now open which is an excellent improvement.
vii. Aberbargoed – Police House was still having a lot of problems with
youths. This was noted for consideration by the Force.
viii. Keithley Road – Speeding cars were still an issue, again this was noted.
iv. Commercial Street – Restricted parking is not working, trade is dropping
off as a result of the traffic regulations.
It was reported that funding for new lights was in place for William Forbes
bungalows so this would improve the position.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING
6. The date of the next meeting will be Monday, 14th May 2007 at 6.30 p.m.
The meeting concluded at 8.00 p.m.