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The Newsletter for the American LaFrance Owners Network Visit us at www.alfowners.org Volume #1 - Issue #1 January - February 2008 In this issue of the PHOENIX 1 - Charleston 9 FF laid to rest 1 - 37 years and counting 1 - A story of an ALF in Cambodia 2 - Comments and Such 3 - The American LaFrance TYPE 1 5 - Vintage American LaFrance ads 6 - New Delivery 6 - Old Iron 7 - Book Reviews 9 - Classifieds 10 - The Back Page Oldest Surviving LaFrance Steamer Located The oldest LaFrance Steam Fire Engine still in existence has been found! It is 1881 Hawkinsville #4! “Katie” as she is known, still resides with the Hawkinsville Fire Department in Pulaski County Georgia. We will be making a trip down for a better photograph in the near future. This one is provided by the fire department. 37 years and counting… By Randy Leiser - Seville, New Jersey Nearly 37 years ago my grandfather stood in uniform as Truck 6414 was backed into the fire hall for the first time. My dad was there too, as was my mom. She was pregnant with me, so I like to think I was there, too. 6414 is a 1971 American LaFrance 100’ mid-mount Quint, and it became the object of my affection - obsession, really since I first stood knee… Continue pg.8 Charleston Nine FF laid to rest By Nate Smith - Washington-Time Herald Re-printed from June 27th, 2007. Washington n a t i ve and Charleston, S.C., firefighter Mark Kelsey made the final part of his journey home Tuesday in the same high school gym where his mother, Paula, sat in the stands and watched his wrestling matches. Continue pg. 4 A story of an ALF in Cambodia By Bill Whitney In January of 2003, Outreach Emergency Services Program (OESP) met with the Phnom Penh Fire Department to discuss our on-going training with the Cambodian firefighters and the needs of the Phnom Penh Fire Department. One of the needs that was addressed was an elevated device for rescue and for the delivery of water. The city has many multi-story buildings and a few of them are over 6 floors with a couple up to 10 floors. Continue pg.6 Come join us at the North Charleston and American LaFrance Fire Museum and Educational Center 18 beautifully restored apparatus! 40 seat movie theater! Interactive Fire Engine Driving Experience! www.legacyofheroes.org or call 843-740-5550 for more info The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 2 SPAAMFAA WINTER MEETING & CONVENTION Hosted by the North Texas Chapter The “NEW” PHOENIX The original PHOENIX was started by John Peckham in 1985 as a quarterly newsletter for the American LaFrance Phoenix Society. I never knew Mr. Peckham personally, but if the privilege was yours to know him you would remember that he was Mr. ALF! Mr. Peckham is no longer with us. He passed away in 2001 and a wealth of knowledge went with him. A few of us decided that we would honor his memory by resurrecting The PHOENIX! I will print excerpts of his work so that everyone can benefit from his knowledge and expertise in the field. To add to the next issue of The PHOENIX, please email information to gmishoe@sc.rr.com or call 843-297-1925. February 20-23, 2008 – Dallas, Texas Spring Hill Suites by Marriott Contact: Scott Simpson @ 214-929-8936 Texas Fire Museum @ 214-267-1867 mackfiretruck@charter.net - www.texasfiremuseum.com SPAAMFAA 50th ANNIVERSARY Is coming soon! Stay tuned for more information. American LaFrance… what will happen By this time I am sure everyone has heard about the temporary layoffs of 100+ employees. They were to be rehired with one month. The end of one month was to be mid January. Now that furlough has been extended to mid-March according to ALF officials interviewed by a local newspaper. ALF is going through some tough times right now. I really hope they can get their selves inline and start cranking out some rigs! I have met several of the key players in this company and they all have good heads on their shoulders. The move from the old plant to the new one that officially opened at the 175th really hurt them. That was a lot to do in such a short period of time. We shall see over the next year. This does not waver my love and admiration for the name of American LaFrance and their rich history. That will always be there for us to love. Until next issue... Congratulations to American LaFrance for 175 years of service! To be included in the next issue of the PHOENIX… please have all letters, classifieds, stories, photos, and any other correspondences to the editor at gmishoe@sc.rr.com no later than February 15th 2008 The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 3 Information from John Peckham publication There were a total of four of the Type 1’s built between 1902 and 1904. Two were built as demonstrators and two were built for fire departments. The first unit, or pilot car, was built as a demonstrator in 1902. It is not known what happened to this vehicle after it was retired. New London, Connecticut’s American-LaFrance, Type 1, as it appeared in October of 1904. Along with two 35 gallon chemical tanks, 100’ of steamer hose and 500’ of chemical hose, are eighteen members of the Niagara Engine Company, No.1. On the far left is the Chief Operator Harry Booth. Next to him is Samuel C. Harris. The two gentlemen on the running board are Foreman Charles R. Brown and Chief Engineer John Stanners. The rest are unknown members of the pioneering company. The second was purchased by the Niagara Fire Company from New London, CT in 1903. “Old Maud “ as she was known, was replaced in 1913 with #228, a Type 12 Triple. The Type 1 was turned over to the city and was later bought back for $75 by the Niagara firefighters. She was sold for junk in 1922. (Top right) The third was a demonstrator in 1903. There are several photos in existence of it being in Toledo, Ohio. However it was never sold to them and are probably demonstrations for the fire department. SPECIFICATIONS for TYPE 1 Pilot Car 2 independent, 2 cylinder Mason, double MOTORS/DRIVE - acting steam engines. Chain to each rear wheel, independently w/o differential. HORSEPOWER/SPEED - Around 20HP total / 15mph BOILER TYPE - Fire-tube with 500 copper tubes. BOILER DIAMETER - 36” BOILER HEIGHT - 30” PRESSURE - 140 pounds per square inch WHEELBASE - 96” TREAD - 56” LENGTH, OVERALL - 168” WIDTH, OVERALL - 72” HEIGHT, OVERALL - 90” WHEELS - 36” wood spoke w/4” solid Turner tires The forth and last of the Type 1’s went to Johannesburg, South Africa. We have an investigation ongoing as to the demise of this rig. Hopefully we will have more on this in upcoming issues of The PHOENIX. GASOLINE TANK - 15 gallons w/60 mile range WATER TANK - 30 gallons w/10 mile range BODY CAPACITY - 1000’ of 2½” steamer hose TOP HOSE BASKET - 500’ of 1½” chemical hose REAR HOSE BASKET - 150’ of 1½” chemical hose 35 gallon, brass and copper Holloway Tanks CHEMICAL TANKS - w/pressure gauges. Two on each side outboard of body. WEIGHT - About 8000 pounds PRICE - $5000 (1902) - $116,796.39 (2007) NEXT ISSUE - TYPE 2,3,4, and 5’s The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 4 Charleston Nine FF laid to rest Continued from pg.1 “There’s no words that I can describe today that haven’t been described before about brotherhood,” Norton said. “Look at the people in this room. Washington people, look around this room at the men who have traveled many miles to pay tribute to this man, my friend.” Washington High School’s Class of 1985 presented the family with a poem read by WHS teacher and former wrestling coach Bill Turner. Turner then spoke of his memories of Kelsey, who was the first Washington wrestler to make it to the state finals. Kelsey still holds school records for most wins in a season, 93, and most pins, 22. His name is inscribed in the school’s Wall of Champions at the top of the 7,200-seat gym. “They say teachers have an impact on students’ lives’, it’s also true of the opposite.” Turner said. “Mark was one of these special persons.” The state of Indiana, represented by state Fire Marshal Roger D. Johnson, honored Kelsey with a medal of valor for his service. The medal, along with the flag that draped Kelsey’s casket and his fire helmet, was given to his 14-year-old son Paul, who spoke to the close to 500 people in attendance and thanked them. Firefighter Mark Kelsey makes his last call on the back of the Washington FD’s 1953 (L-4869, 710-PJO) American LaFrance 700 Series engine. The vehicle is still owned and on display with the Washington FD. About 300 firefighters, including 19 from the Charleston Fire Department, were on hand to salute the fallen firefighter. He was one of nine firefighters who died June 18 while battling a warehouse fire. Kelsey was the last of what is now being known as the “Charleston Nine” to be buried. The city’s mayor, Joseph Riley, and fire chief, Rusty Thomas, made the trip to Washington. Members of the Ashley River Fire Department, led by Chief Scott Inabeth, also made the journey. Kelsey was a captain on the volunteer fire department, as well as an engineer on the Charleston force. Riley said Charleston will “never forget” the sacrifice of Kelsey and his eight comrades in the largest loss of firefighters since the Sept. 11 attacks. “Today, I come to this lovely city in America’s heartland with a heavy heart as we bring your son home to rest,” Riley said. “In my community, I want you to know that every citizen is in mourning. Their sadness is so overpowering. “Your son, a son of Washington, the son of the Kelsey family gave his life courageously and heroically to save lives and protect our community.” As a thunderstorm pelted the Hatchet House during the funeral, tributes to Kelsey’s life and service to Charleston and at Ashley River continued. Thomas described him as a man who would help anyone, especially children. “No matter what kids came in, third-grader, first-grader, fifth-grader, that’s what level Mark Kelsey was at,” Thomas said. “He was no longer the engineer of the truck. Mark Kelsey would lift them on the truck and no matter what anyone said, he would give them a ride around the neighborhood. That’s Mark Kelsey.” The impact of Kelsey and the eight other firefighters was also felt by those who knew the man well. Washington firefighter Bobby Norton remembered Kelsey from Little League games at Harmon Field and kept in contact with his friend and fellow firefighter. Several firefighters from the WFD participate in a fire drill at the old West End School. “It really fills my heart that you all came,” Paul Kelsey said. “I really appreciate it.” Also speaking during the service was Jeff Unger, a friend of Kelsey, Fire Chief Inabeth and Kasey Kelsey, who wrote a poem about the death of her uncle. Washington Mayor David Abel and Fire Chief David Chapman also spoke at the service. Abel described Kelsey as a “son of the city.” Continue pg.5 The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 5 Charleston Nine FF laid to rest Continued from pg.4 “The citizens of Washington join with you in that grief,” Abel said. “You have our thanks for the sacrifice that Mark has made.” The rain continued to pour as Kelsey’s body was loaded onto Washington’s 1954 American LaFrance open-top truck for the five-mile trip to his final resting place, Sugarland Memory Gardens. The family followed the truck on Harley-Davidsons. Kelsey’s custom motorcycle was brought back from Charleston for the service and ridden by his brother. As the procession approached the cemetery, the rain lifted and the sun shone on a large American flag that hung above the entrance to the cemetery. Turner recalled a story when Kelsey went to the 1984 state wrestling finals. After practice, Kelsey asked Turner if he was going out of town with a parade. “Coach, do you think I will be sent off with a parade?” Kelsey asked Turner that day. “Well, Mark, as you look down from heaven, your parade has finally come,” Turner said Tuesday. One of Mark passion’s was motorcycles. Several of his friends and family follow Mark as he is driven to his final resting place on the Washington FD’s 1954 American LaFrance pumper. OUR NEXT ISSUE To be included in the next issue of the PHOENIX… please have all letters, classifieds, stories, photos, and any other correspondences to the editor at gmishoe@sc.rr.com no later than February 15th 2008. Got a picture of your rig before and after? Write us up something about the history of your ride and we will publish it for everyone to see. Look forward to those email and photos! The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 6 A story of an ALF in Cambodia… continued from pg.1 At that time, all water application was via master stream devices that were mounted on apparatus and the Fire Dept. did not have any ground ladders. Fires that occurred above ground were fought with hand lines and apparatus mounted master stream devices. Over the next year or so, OESP looked for a suitable aerial apparatus that would be economical, low on hours and usage, and in good mechanical condition. An ALF Aero Chief was located in Edmond, Oklahoma and seemed to fit the bill. The Edmond FD had replaced the apparatus with a newer unit and decided to sell the ALF. We made the transaction and took possession of a unit in very good condition and was also functionally very sound. The unit was then fully serviced in Seattle and transported by ship to Sihanoukville, Cambodia where we met up with the truck again to drive it to Phnom Penh. The January, 2005 training classes were spent training their selected driver/operators on the operation of the unit. They caught on very quickly and Phnom Penh Fire Department put Truck 1 into service shortly thereafter. Since our time of working with the Phnom Penh Fire Department began in 2002, we have seen a significant drop in property loss and fire spread within the city. However, there was a dramatic drop in fire loss since the American La France 100' Aero Chief was placed in service. PPFD is now able to literally deliver water effectively to the source of the fire when they occur above ground level. To us in the US, this seems like a small thing, considering that we have access to equipment like this on a normal basis. However, PPFD Truck 1 is the only aerial device in the entire country and is serving a population of over 2 million citizens in the city. Access to upper floors is now much easier for the PPFD firefighters. Due to the type of construction variables that they face, Truck 1 now provides the ability to reach the upper floors safely. The amazing thing about the ALF is its reliability. With the exception of replacing a fuel pump for the engine, the ALF has performed flawlessly in a hot and dusty environment. Not bad for a 28 year old truck! I can promise you that if it didn't cost so much to ship apparatus to Cambodia, we would be shipping more ALF apparatus. They just keep running....and running...and running. PINE BUSH FIRE DISTRICT PINE BUSH, NEW YORK 12523 DEALERSHIP - Garrison Fire & Rescue VIN NUMBER - 1AFAADCY07RZ10524 DELIVERY DATE - December 14th, 2007 CHASSIS / TRUCK TYPE - Metropolitan Custom Rescue Pumper ENGINE - Cummins ISL 400HP TRANSMISSION - Allison 3000EVS PUMP - Hale AP50 500gpm TANK SIZE - 500 gallon fiberglass HEIGHT - 123” / 10’ 3” LENGTH / WHEEL BASE - 32’ 5” / 202” WIDTH - 100” This photograph was taken in 1918 during acceptance tests for Okura & Company located in Tokyo, Japan. The test was performed in front of the Imperial Palace. This is believed to be either registration 1960 or 1961. They were Type 40 Hose rigs with Junior pumps. The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 7 Book Reviews from Enthusiast Books In 1934, at the depths of the Great Depression, the American-LaFrance-Foamite Corporation of Elmira, New York, designed and placed into production an uncommonly handsome new big-city fire engine. Powered by the company's industryleading V-12 engine, the 400 Series Metropolitan had its highcapacity pump mounted in the truck's cowl ahead of the driver instead of in the usual midship location under the driver's seat. With its long, gracefully tapered hood, skirted fenders, classically-proportioned gabled radiator and oversized wheels, the big 400 was a triumph of industrial design - an eye-pleasing blend of form and function, and the industry's first truly styled fire engine. This authoritative, thoroughly-researched and richly illustrated book documents the big 400's relatively short, but spectacular, production life. This long-overdue, eagerly anticipated compendium is the only book ever published devoted exclusively to this revered American firefighting classic. Walter M.P. McCall is one of the best-known and most respected fire apparatus historians and authors in North America. He has recently come out with two highly anticipated books. The American LaFrance 400 Series Photo Archive and the Illustrated Encyclopedia of American Fire Engine Manufacturers. The second is the follow up to his fire buff “bible” American Fire Engines Since 1900. Both are published by Iconographix and are reasonably priced. I have read through both and am highly impressed. With the exception of some minor identification errors the books are fabulous! I highly recommend them for any fire buff library. Walt rides shotgun in #7775, ex-Annapolis MD, a 1937 Model 415CB PWT Metropolitan Pumper with Grant Mishoe. This rig was recently purchased by the NC/ALF Fire Museum and will be used at musters and events to promote the museum. From Abbott & Downing to Zwak, this comprehensive volume combines company histories, innovations and hundreds of photographs to present the story of American fire engine manufacturing. The objective of this book was to compile as comprehensive and complete a list as possible of the known players - the hundreds of companies that produced more than just one or two fire trucks, and which operated as continuous fire apparatus manufacturing and sales enterprises. The focus of this compendium, therefore, is on the established known companies (as well as some not so well known) that have actively engaged in this unique vehicular industry over the past one hundred-plus years. In the main this book is an alphabetical listing of dedicated motor fire apparatus builders - companies that designed and built pumpers, ladder trucks, rescue and other types of motor fire apparatus in their own factories - from the frame-up on their own custom chassis or on commercially-available domestic truck chassis. You will note that we have also included a number of commercial chassis makers such as International, Freightliner, Kenworth and Peterbilt which forged special alliances with various fire apparatus builders, and which sometimes made and marketed fire apparatus under their own names. This encyclopedia is a vital reference source for libraries, fire stations, historians, fire apparatus enthusiasts, and anyone involved in or enamored with the fire apparatus industry. The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 8 37 years and counting… continued from pg.1 ...high to my dad. My grandfather taught him how to drive it - both were volunteers at the Stratford Fire Company, in my hometown of Stratford, NJ. Tuesday night was drill night in Stratford, and it was my favorite night of the week, as I’d spend it watching 6414, and my father and grandfather in action. Nothing beat a Saturday afternoon at the fire hall, though. My brother, Mark, and I loved washing 6414, then “blowing it dry” - with a ride across town, of course. I loved the sound of that big 6-71 Detroit Diesel going through the gears around town, and watching my dad double clutch the transmission. When your dad drives the biggest fire truck in town, and you get to ride right next to him and wave to your friends as you pass their homes - well, it doesn’t get any better as a kid. What little boy’s heart doesn’t stop at the sight of a big, red, shiny fire truck roaring by? I always wanted to become a volunteer fireman, and to drive 6414, but never did… After 12 years, my dad changed careers, and gave up volunteer firefighting. I went to high school, then college, then got married and moved away. Before I knew it, 6414 was sitting outside the fire hall, having been replaced by a new truck after 27 years of faithful service. Early in 2004, I was reading about some other American LaFrance trucks online, when I discovered a photo of 6414 my favorite fire truck - on a website. A collector in Missouri had purchased the truck when it was retired from Stratford. I emailed him (and relayed the above story to him). He replied, and much to my surprise, told me the truck was for sale. I told my wife I had to buy it. God bless her, she let me. On September 9, 2004, Truck 6414 arrived in West Chester, PA, on a flatbed truck. Just like old times, my dad fired up the big Detroit, and I climbed into the seat next to him. I felt like I was twelve years old again as we rumbled down the road, enroute to my home in Seaville, NJ. A half-mile from home, my dad pulled over, and we switched seats for the first time. My heart began to pound as I released the brakes and eased out the clutch, the 6-cylinder Detroit emitting its familiar roar. We rumbled down the street, and curious neighbors began staring as I backed the huge truck into my driveway, covering twothirds of it. One of the neighborhood kids asked, “Hey mister, is your house on fire?” I’ve since perfected my double-clutching, and now enjoy taking my two boys, Paul and Dan, for an occasional ride. They’re the fourth generation of the family to ride aboard the truck, and they love it as much as their daddy does. They grin enthusiastically when I flip on the pair of red Beacon Rays on the cab roof! This past summer, Truck 6414 made a triumphant return to Stratford for the July 4th Parade - the first homecoming for the truck since it left nearly 10 years ago. It was a special event for us as all four generations were aboard for the parade: me driving, my dad holding Dan, Paul ringing the bell, my brother Mark, and my grandfather waving from the jump seats! Shortly after the truck came home in 2004, we began construction of a large garage on our property. Truck 6414 now has a new home of its own, and Paul, Dan, and I can play with it any time we want. And the best part? Every time I throw open the garage door and stare at the truck I feel like a little boy again! 4 generations of Leisers on 6414 at the Stratford July 4th parade. Happy New Year from The PHOENIX staff. Be Safe in 2008! The PHOENIX - January 2008 Page 9 Classifieds WANTED: Rotary Gear Pump, 750 gpm, for 1939 500 Series ALF. Also, need transmission for use with this pump. Would consider entire parts truck. Any leads to possibly locate these parts would be GREATLY appreciated. Contact John Northey in California at 707-527-7451 or email him at jsnorth2941@aol.com. WANTED: Looking for the following items to restore my 1929 American La France Type 145, Ex- Battle Creek, MI , Registry # 6562. I have picture files of items I am looking for and can forward them to you for comparison if you think you might have what I am looking for. • 24” x 15” Rear Fender step plates with Maltese cross in center of plate and diamond pattern on step plate area. • Guide marked headlamps made of BRASS which are Bowl shaped (hemispherical) more than bullet shaped with a single threaded shaft mount. Size: 11” overall Diameter, 7” Deep, 9” Diameter lens, marked “GUIDE” • Cowl Lights made of BRASS which were mounted on the aluminum cowl/firewall of a 100 Series American La France. Size: 3 ½ “ overall Diameter , 3” Deep. Maybe Guide Lights but not marked as such. • Transaxle which came off a 100 series fire truck or late 1927, 1928, 1929 ALF. I need to possibly replace 1st gear pinion and shaft, or gear shifter fork in truck. • Any plumbing for Chemical Tank. Does not have to be complete, Tees, Elbows, Valves all in Brass or Nickel Plated. • Two American La France Lantern Holders, preferably in Brass with the recessed ring base which the font of the lantern sat into. FOR SALE: Hard rubber rims and wheels for early ALF (type 10 - type 40). Current tires on rims need replacing. Some felloe and spoke work needed on some of the wood wheels. Single tires on front, double tires on rear. If you are thinking about putting original hard rubber wheels back on your fire apparatus these may work for you. Front wheels are minus the steel hubs as previous owner switched them out to put pneumatics on his truck, however you can use the front hubs on your truck. Contact Warren D. Lun by emailing him at engine4@voyager.net for pictures and pricing. FOR SALE: 1977 American LaFrance 1500gpm with 750 gallon tank, Century Series Pumper. Registration number CE-12-5603 ex-Palos Heights Fire Protection District in Illinois. Detroit Diesel, 5 speed manual transmission, 20,535 miles, 31,837 GVW, ALF chrome bell, Mars Light model 888, Q2B Federal Siren, Areodynic Federal Lightbar, 24’ extension ladder, 14’ roof ladder, Opticon signal interrupter device. Vehicle is currently located in Flatonia, Texas. Asking $9500 OBO. Email JL563TX@texas.net for more information. Anything to add to the “Classified” section. Forward it to Grant Mishoe, Editor, at gmishoe@sc.rr.com. Specializing in Early American LaFrance Fire Apparatus & Early Fire Memorabilia Office: 215-513-7572 | Email: hef3@earthlink.net WANTED: William Reidling is looking for parts for his 1940 open cab Ford Peter Pirsch fire engine. Parts needed right now are brass handrails and ladder brackets. If anyone has pictures of an open cab ford fire engine from the 40's because he only has one and he needs more detail. Email him at winder218@aaltel.net WANTED: Art Lawrence tells us although he owns a 1948 Mack and a 1954 Mack (both 85's), he is on the hunt for a real good shape 700, 800, 900, or Century open cab short wheelbase pumper. Anyone wishing to help please contact him at Arthur.Lawrence@Firetruck.Com On The Back Cover 3 photos of reg.# 139, a Type 5 from St. Johnsbury, VT. Steve Hagy found one of the photos on Ebay while I found the other two online. WANTED: Dodge Fire Trucks, 1918-1970s, literature, photos and the real things!!! Email Nollie Neill, Jr. at Dodgefiretks@hotmail.com I personally like the acetylene gas headlights and spotlight found on the early models. The plate on the side of the hose basket appears to be a dedication plate of some sort. After being sold to Portsmouth, VA in 1927, the vehicle later disappears and most likely was scrapped. FOR SALE: William Love is selling a collection of items due to the fact he is moving. Items included are Atlas Jump Net (dusty, but in new condition), 24’ wood extension ladder, 12’ wood roof ladder, 12’ roof folding ladder, 12’ aluminum roof ladder, 1.5" and 2.5" nozzles (different names), 1.5" hose, 2.5" hose, lots of brass pieces, sirens, box of red comet extinguishers (Salesman kit), older Scott bottles and cases, and much, much more. Contact William Love at william.llove@yahoo.com or contact him direct at (760) 5871375. Photos from the Past 1912 American LaFrance Type 5 Chemical / Hose Car Registration # 139 1912 - 1923: Central Station on Eastern Ave. with Ladder Co. 1923 - 1926: Central Station on Main St. In 1912 the St. Johnsbury Fire Department acquired a new Chemical engine from the American LaFrance company. This was the first motorized piece of apparatus in St. Johnsbury and one of the first in Vermont. The truck was a 1912 Type 5 Combination Chemical and Hose wagon, and one of only 48 made by American LaFrance. It carried 70 gallons of chemical in two tanks, 400 feet of chemical hose, and 1000 ft of regular hose. The new engine was delivered in August 1912 and staffed by 2 full time firefighters. The engine cost the town $7500. Its was replaced in 1926 and sold to Portsmouth, Virginia in 1927. 202 Turtle Cove Road Summerville, South Carolina 29485

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