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          Drama Therapy and Dance/Movement Therapy
What is it?
What is dance/movement therapy? The American Dance Therapy Association (ADTA)
defines dance/movement therapy as “the psychotherapeutic use of movement as a process
which furthers the emotional, social, cognitive, and physical integration of the individual.”
(ADTA, 1966). Dance/movement therapists are dancers who are trained in both
dance/movement therapy and counseling or psychotherapy. They work in a wide variety of
settings, such as psychiatric and medical hospitals, rehabilitation centers and nursing homes,
community mental health agencies, schools and special education settings, wellness centers
and in private practice.
What is drama therapy? Drama therapy is the intentional use of drama and/or theater
processes to achieve therapeutic goals. Drama therapy is active and experiential. This
approach can provide the context for participants to tell their stories, set goals and solve
problems, express feelings, or achieve catharsis. Through drama, the depth and breadth of
inner experience can be actively explored and interpersonal relationship skills can be enhanced.
Participants can expand their repertoire of dramatic roles to find that their own life roles have
been strengthened
In your own words, what exactly is drama therapy or dance/movement therapy? In stead
of sitting down and talking about your problems these therapies allow you to take on various
roles, emotions or feelings you are experiencing and “act” them out. This forms new nero
pathways in the brain and allowing for new actions and behaviors to take place. Instead of
talking about it you do it. I like to think of these therapies as additional tools to the traditional
verbal therapies. Instead of only sitting and talking about your problems, feelings and
experiences you can add the opportunity to get up and express them through dance,
movement, and drama.

How exactly does drama therapy and/or dance/movement therapy help your patients?
The goals and progress is similar to verbal therapy only drama therapy and dance/movement
therapy reaches those the verbal therapy does not, for example you don’t have to talk to
participate in these therapies, it can help with pre-verbal trauma. Concrete thinkers that don’t
get concepts spoken to them understand doing them and achieve healing.

What does a drama and/or dance/movement therapist’s job entail? The same as a regular
therapist and this varies from setting to setting. Most basic duties are conducting assessments,
leading groups doing individual sessions and leading family sessions and documentation.
What type of patients/clients can benefit from drama therapy and/or dance/movement
therapy? Everyone! See my web site for a listing of goals addressed
in expressive art therapy for specific populations. If you can move and breathe you can do these
What sort of cases do drama and/or dance/movement therapists handle? All. What each
therapist chooses depends on the therapist I for example currently choose not to work in a
prison but I have friends that love it. I enjoy private practice, working with children and those that
have experienced abuse and substance abuse. This again is just like regular therapist you pick
the population you are interested in and get extra experience and certifications with this
population the "cool" thing about being a therapist is as you grow and change it is easy to
change populations. So if you choose to work with young children upon graduation that does not
mean you must work with them the rest of your career, you can change later if you become
interested in say adults with memory disorders. This might mean additional training but the state
license will allow you to switch populations, settings and modalities.
Does drama and/or dance/movement therapy take the place of regular counseling where
the patient and therapist sit down and talk, or do most patients usually participate in
both? Drama therapy and dance/movement therapy includes verbal processing of the events
so they use both. In order to be a drama therapist or a dance/movement therapist one must be
a good verbal therapist, these therapies allow for extra tools to use so that you can help those
that traditional verbal therapies can’t.
What does a dance/movement therapist do? Dance/movement therapists work with
individuals, couples, families and groups. As therapists, they lead dance/movement therapy
sessions, help develop treatment plans and goals, document their work in clinical records and
collaborate with professionals from other disciplines. Dance/movement therapists utilize both
movement interventions and verbal counseling techniques with clients. Dancing as a form of
self-expression, social interaction and experiencing in the present moment is a special and
effective form of therapy.
If working in a group session, how many clients do you let participate at one time? Same
as with traditional therapies an average group size is 8-10. However if you are working with
young children like I do 5-7 is a good number. You have to base it on the function and age of
the group you have.
Do family members of your patients ever participate in the therapy sessions?
Yes this is called family therapy and it can be very helpful.
If someone has just decided that they want to pursue drama therapy or dance therapy as
a career, what advice would you give them? Go DO it and experience it, it is a experiential
therapy so reading about it and hearing about it is good and fine but you won’t know if it is for
you and the benefit of it until you do it yourself. Go attend a workshop a conference something
go do it and go do it with different therapist everyone is different and has their own style you
may click with some and not with others.
Go to a conference. There they will meet people from the different schools and alt route
programs, new students and the current founders. They will get to take workshops with different
people and experience what drama and/or dance/movement therapy is. It is one of those things
that either you get goose bumps at and proclaim “I have found my people” or you slowly back
away scarred at what is happening and not understanding it and not wanting to. You have to
experience it to discover what reaction you will have. The national conferences are once a year.
At an annual conference you will get the best picture of what the field is and if you like it or not.

What does it look like?

Does drama therapy and or dance/movement therapy work for everyone or does it work
better with specific behaviors or experiences that the person has faced? With drama
therapy a person need to enter the imagine realm and “play” anyone that can or is willing to try
this can do it. In my experience it is most powerful with children, adults that need to SEE
something to understand its meaning and with men in recovery from addictions. With dance
therapy all you need to do is move (if you are breathing you are moving) movements can be
simple like a breath or involve free expression using the entire body.
Are there specific drama therapy techniques that you use? (masks, puppets,
storytelling)? I use several techniques such as play back theater, sand tray enactment,
choreography of object relations, psychodrama and many others. I use props such as masks
and puppets.
Through your experience, do girls or boys respond better to this therapy and are there
specific techniques you use with the different ages and genders? I find drama therapy and
dance/movement therapy is gender neutral, sometime men/boys will work with drama more than
dance. As for age yes what I do follows developmental frameworks so my presentation and
techniques changes a bit from age to age but once someone reaches say around 15 they can
use all of the techniques.
Will I be able to dance at my job as a dance/movement therapist? Or use my theater
skills? Yes! You will be using your artistic dance skills, your gifts of dance expression and your
movement expertise every day at work as a dance/movement therapist. You also will be
communicating about dance/movement therapy verbally, with other professionals at work, with
your clients and in your clinical documentation and other writing about your work.
How often do your regular patients come to sessions? Same as with verbal therapy it
depends on what is needed, several times a week, once a week, once a month, ect.
Like other types of therapy, would insurance cover some of the costs of drama therapy?
Yes you can bill under traditional codes if you hold licenses in your state (in NC the LPC, LCAS,
or LCSW) and there are “play therapy” and “expressive art therapy” codes as well.
Can I come and observe one of your therapy sessions? Sorry No, with the confidential
nature of therapy I can't have observers. But I do teach and supervise others and you can sit in
on these sessions. I also plan several workshops a year that you can attend and so doe the
Carolina Chapter. I am also just now completing some short DVD clips where I show what I do
etc. that I can load out to you and show.
Critics have questioned dance/movement therapy because research on it is not
exceptionally scientific in nature. How would you defend the effectiveness of
dance/movement therapy? I would say those critics have not done proper research for there
are many research articles written about DMT that are very scientific and
use traditional research protocols. The American Dance Therapy has it's
own research journal that comes out twice a year full of articles the American Dance
Therapy Association has it's own research community that keeps the standards high. Some
people just assume that because it is grounded in dance it is not valid or able to follow
proper research guidelines and that is incorrect. Also the American Dance Therapy
Association is listed as a specialty under the NBCC (national board of certified counselors).
DMT is valid!
Briefly share a specific example of a time dance therapy had a therapeutic effect. Let
me refer to some quotes my clients have made.
"The visual, creative and physical techniques of Angela's dance/drama therapy brought
dimensions of color and insight to my otherwise flat black and white view of my situation. With
Angela's qualified assistance, I squashed demons, lies and outmoded behaviors patterns that
no longer belonged in the world of my newly liberated spirit. Her approach taught me tools and
skills to easily use in my everyday life so I could further progress in my quest to live the genuine
and authentic life I am entitled to live. It's not just about what is going on in the head, it's about
me as a whole...and that includes a heart, body, and soul." -Adult Male

“Dance therapy provides a tangible connect between mind and body that enables those who
practice it to find the true root of their problems and thus fix them beyond simply applying the
"bandage" effect.” -Adult Female

“Dance Therapy has been a fun and effective method for my child to express her thoughts and
feelings. She is always anxious to share what she has done and learned. My child has made
efforts to put the things that she has been taught in her therapy sessions into practice.” -Parent
“Dance therapy supervision has been an eye opening experience for me! I never dreamed it
would be so effective with patients but I am thankful I have had the opportunity to see how
moving enables and facilitates communication and emotional exploration!”-DMT student

“I never knew how amazing DMT was until I met my DMT supervisor while obtaining my
Master's program in counseling. She has dramatically opened my eyes, my heart and my spirit
into this amazing world. I never imagined that I could experience such a beneficial therapy like
DMT. I have witnessed the changes of how DMT can help a client can use their body and their
body's movements as another form of expression when mentally they are unable to verbally
clarify their state well-being (i.e. emotional, cognitively, physically, etc.). Interning as a DMT
intern student has increased my excitement and eagerness on how much more I will learn and
how I hope to one day make my mark as the next DMT generation in the future.”
-DMT student
From your experience, in what ways is dance therapy most useful? It allows healing to
take place with the body, mind, and emotions all at once. I often hear people say that they have
been in therapy for years but never addresses the physical trauma, verbal therapy just does not
do this.

Dance therapists have described the importance of the connection between body and
mind. What strategies are used during dance therapy sessions in order to create this
connection? Movement occurs and cognitive processing occurs on both verbal and no-verbal
levels connecting the movement with the healing, thoughts and emotions and connecting them
back to the body.

Tell me about you
What different degrees and certificates do you have?
I have a MA, a NCC (National Certified Counselor), MAC (Master Addiction Counselor with
NADAC) LPC (Licensed Professional Counselor) in both SC and NC, I am a LPCS (LPC
supervisor in NC), LCAS (Licensed Clinical Addictions Specialist) an BC-DMT (Board Certified-
Dance Movement Therapist) and a RDT/BCT (Registered Drama Therapist/Board Certified
Trainer). National certifications are nice if you move they often help plus they help with salaries
and such but you have to have a state license if you want to do private practice, supervise or
work for most agencies. So in addition to doing the drama and/or dance/movement therapy
certifications you still need a state license in the field you want to work as such as a therapist or
a teacher.
Where did you go to school?
I have two BA’s from Arizona State University one in psychology and the other in dance and
theater. I got my MA in dance therapy with a minor in counseling and completed the alt route
program in drama therapy at Antioch in NH. They program there allows you to peruse both at
the same time, of course to complete drama therapy alt route extra classes are required.
How did you get involved with drama therapy and dance/movement therapy? I was
working on my BA in dance and a BA in psychology. I was teaching dance in local recreation
centers and using the techniques without knowing it. Someone one day told me I should look
into dance therapy and I said yes I will and ran home and goggled it, I was lucky to “stumble”
upon it.
What is your background in therapy? I tend to use more of a Chace, Gestalt and
psychodynamic approach depending on what best suits the individual seeking therapy. I also
use a lot of Jung’s therapies and consider myself a Jungian and psychodynamic therapist.
What age group do your clients usually fall under?
Drama therapist work with all ages and all populations. I have chosen to work with children and
teens mostly; I work with adults some too. I specialize in survivors of abuse and people
recovering from substance abuse.
Do you prefer working in groups or one-on-one sessions?
I like both equally, this is a personal preference.
When did your organization start? I had been in private practice before moving to the
Greensboro area for 6 years in Charleston, SC then stopped for about 2 years and then
restarted private practice about 2yrs ago here in Greensboro NC.
What does your office look like? Currently it is a big 400 square foot room. It has a couch and
several LARGE cabinets to store stuff, hard wood floors and 10ft ceilings. It is very different
from a traditional counseling office. I have pictures on my web site, check them out!
The type attire you were to work? This is the best part, whatever I want; I do want to look
professional. When I work with kids I normally dress down a bit so if I get covered in paint of
something I don't mind. I hate shoes so I normally wear fuzzy socks, toe socks or go barefoot.
My normally attire is loose and comfy I tend to wear pants or big loose skirts so I have freedom
to move and a top that allows for movement (dressier with adults, more kid friendly when I work
with kids)
What is your organizations goals or mission? To provide dance therapy, drama therapy,
addiction counseling and verbal therapy to children, teens, adults and families to help them
foster increased body awareness, sense of self and to experience emotional healing of trauma
and daily struggles.
What is the most rewarding aspect of drama therapy and dance/movement therapy? I get
to dance, play, use puppets, sand, and scarves, get to be monsters and heroes and all the time
help people work through trauma and be able to have healthier lives. There is no greater job! I
have the opportunity to move with others and having the freedom to use different modalities.
When I use traditional therapies I have a hard time sitting still and work best when I can move,
also I believe they can heal faster and more advanced with movement and drama. So getting to
use a style I believe in and that I love to use. I get to have fun every day I work!!!
What’s the most challenging part of your career? drama and dance therapy and other
expressive art therapies are recognized in several parts of the US but in more remote places
people don't know much about the field so depending on where you live (and this includes the
places I have lived AZ and SC (mostly cities away from the schools and the south). Here each
drama and dance therapist must be a pioneer and advocate for the field, help educate other
therapists and show how drama and dance therapy can be used to help the field grow and to
"create" a drama and/or dance therapy position. For example in entering most of my jobs have
had the title “therapist” I went to my supervisors and added the words drama and dance
therapist to the description and made the job a creative art therapy position it was not one when
I started. (this is not the case in DC, NYC, San Fran, Huston, Philly, Chicago and some other
cities here they advertise for drama and/or dance therapists). In doing therapy I really don’t
consider a difficult aspect, I love what I do but I think it would be the same as a difficult aspect in
working with clients in therapy the challenges occur when there is resistance (psychodrama tells
us there is no such things as resistance only inadequate warm up) or when you are learning
how to administer a new technique or work with a new population. Therapy allows you to have
completely different experiences as you change people and methods so no session is ever the
same and you have flexibility to do what is needed. I love to have flexibility in my work so
perhaps this is why I don’t see this as a difficult aspect. One can have more of a structured work
environment if desired as well; I just don’t choose to do that. If forced to name a challenge I
personality I don’t like paper work and sometime we all get tired and worn out on those days it is
a bit of a challenge but I find that I love it many more days than I drag along otherwise I would
not do it.
What kinds of goals, through you experience, has people wanted to achieve or overcome
by going through this type of therapy? Well I work with survivors of trauma and addictions so
the goals follow this goals are normally set upon what the person needs to achieve drama
and/or dance therapy is the modality, so define the goal, example: no more night mares that the
monster/abuser is eating me or to be able to make changes so I don’t continue to repeat the
same pattern of getting depressed and using. And then apply drama and/or dance therapy to
help the individual realize this goal, see it in action and be able to integrate their body into the
healing process.
Who do you consider the most influential person in the field of dance/movement
therapy? This is a hard question to answer there were around 6 pioneers that started
dance/movement therapy. Marion Chace is considered the founder of dance therapy and the
primary pioneer. I in my own life I did not have the chance to study with any of them so I would
say with my personal experience my mentor Penny Lewis she founded the first school to teach
dance therapy (Antioch) she wrote most of the first books. She used to say, “There was no
place to study so I created it, there were no books to learn so I wrote them” and she did. She
was also one of the few that held both a drama therapist and a dance/movement therapist
certification and was the main source of encouragement for me to become both as well.
How do you envision the future of drama and/or dance/movement therapy? I see it
continuing to change and evolve as it grows and as new therapists enter the field. There is
much to expand on, new theories to create and adapt, new tools to use. Recently I have seen
the new graduates integrating technology and media into the work and I find this exciting.
How have you seen people change due to Drama and Dance/Movement Therapy? YES of
course MAJOR changes. With drama therapy and dance therapy you SEE the changes and see
them faster than with traditional therapies that is the benefit of this modality.
How do you acquire patients? Are many court ordered, or do you have a majority who
are already seeking out help? I use the internet, I am listed on online counseling directories
(psychology today and Good therapy) I also have referrals in the community such as DSS, tx
centers and other therapist, and the best way is work of mouth.

How do I become one? What kind of work can I find?

What degrees or certificates are necessary for a drama therapist and/or dance/movement
therapist? Drama therapy has a Registered Drama Therapist (RDT) title is awarded drama
therapists who have a master's degree which includes 500 hours of drama/theater experience,
300 hours of on-site internship in drama therapy with at least 30 hours of supervision by a RDT
(or other registered creative arts therapist or credentialed master's-level mental health
professional), and 1000 paid hours of drama therapy experience. A Board Certified Trainer in
drama therapy (BCT) has been a RDT for at least 5 years showing an active involvement and
good standing with the national association. The BCT has the responsibility of training, guiding
and mentoring individuals who aspire to becoming RDT’s. The BCT is a member of the faculty
of the National Association for Drama Therapy. As a practitioner, the BCT understands the
healing power of theatre and uses drama therapy to promote personal growth and therapeutic
change. As a trainer/supervisor, the BCT mentors and facilitates the development of a novice
from learning the fundamentals of drama therapy to assuming a professional identity. As a
teacher, the BCT is familiar with theoretical issues in the field, and has the ability to organize
and conduct academic courses.

Dance/Movement therapy has a R-DMT and a BC-DMT. Entry into the profession of
dance/movement therapy is at the Master's level. The title "Registered- Dance Therapists " (R-
DMT) is granted to entry level dance/movement therapists who have a master's degree which
includes 700 hundred hours of supervised clinical internship. The advanced level of registry,
"Board Certified- Dance Moment Therapists", (BC-DMT) is awarded only after R-DT's have
completed 3,640 hours of supervised clinical work in an agency, institution or special school,
with additional supervision from an BC-DMT.
What training is required to be a Dance/Movement Therapist and or a Drama Therapist?
Dance/movement therapists and Drama Therapists must have a Master’s degree. Choices
include a Master’s in dance/movement therapy, drama therapy or in counseling or psychology.
Some graduate programs offer a combined degree. For dancers who pursue or already have an
MA in counseling or psychology, ‘alternate route’ training in dance therapy is available. A clinical
internship in dance therapy is required in all cases. Once a MA is achieved around one year
post grad work is required to obtain the RDT or R-DMT and around two years post grad to
obtain state licensure, these various state to state.
Where can I study to become a dance/movement therapist? There are current six graduate
degree programs in dance/movement therapy that are approved by the ADTA. There are also
several independent (not in a university) programs offering alternate route dance therapy
training. The university-based Master’s in dance/movement therapy programs Approved by the
ADTA are: Antioch New England Graduate School, New Hampshire (603) 357-3122 Ext. 222
Columbia College Chicago, Illinois (312) 369-7697 Drexel University, Pennsylvania (215) 762-
7851 Lesley University, Cambridge, Massachusetts (617) 349-8413 or (800) 999-1959 Ext.
8413 Naropa University, Boulder, Colorado (303) 245-4845 or (800) 772-6951 Pratt Institute,
Brooklyn, New York (718) 636-3428 For more information please see the ADTA web site
Where can I study to become a drama therapist? New York University (NYU) New York,
California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) San Francisco, CA, Concordia University in
Montreal, Quebec
How long does it take to become a drama and or dance/movement therapist? As in most
Master’s degree programs, expect to be in school for two to three years. Then expect an
additional year to get the first level of certification, an additional 2 years to get your state
certification. Then if you are interested in training and teaching you will need around 5 additional
years from those years to get the board certified trainer status in the field.
What is the best preparation for studying dance/movement therapy? Most successful
applicants have a broad education in dance. Ideally this includes a variety of dance techniques,
ranging from modern dance forms to ethnic, folk and social dance styles. Your dance education
should also include choreography, performance and teaching dance. College courses in
kinesiology, anatomy & physiology are recommended. You will also need courses in
psychology, such as theories of personality, abnormal psychology and developmental or
lifespan psychology. You can take these courses as pre-requisites, if you have already
completed college. Work or volunteer experience helping people, such as in summer camps,
schools, hospitals or nursing homes is a good way to explore a career in a helping profession
like dance therapy.
What should I read to learn more about dance/movement therapy? The ADTA web site lists
local dance/movement therapy contacts by state. You may also want to subscribe to the ADTA
listserv online to access ongoing discussion, ask questions and get to know about other
dance/movement therapists. Instructions for subscribing are on the web site. Some states have
local chapters affiliated with the ADTA. You could attend a chapter meeting near you. The
ADTA holds a national conference every year in a different location. Attending this conference is
a wonderful way to get acquainted with dance/movement therapy. Recommended reading is
also listed on the web site or check with your local public or school library. ADTA info is
Approximately after receiving your degree how long does it take for you to find work?
Approximately two years until you can get licensed in your state. Now during this time jobs are
harder to find but you can find them. This is when you "pay your dues" and work the entry level
jobs as a therapist you can't do private practice and most jobs require you to pay for additional
supervision until you are licensed in the state. NC has a LPC-A where you can be licensed
under supervision as you work for two years.
What is the salary expectation for drama therapist and a dance/movement therapist? This
depends on the location bigger cities bring in more. It follows traditional therapies with salaries.
In order to do private practice and bill insurance companies you need to have a state license as
well as the drama therapy certification (in NC and SC it is the LPC) this varies greatly depending
on where you live the larger cities bring a higher salary. Also the more education and
certifications you have you can bring a higher salary. Here in Greensboro NC average salary for
a non profit is around 45,000 a year. For a for-profit around 55,000 and private practice rates
are $85-$120 an hour. With out a state license though a salary as a dance therapist or drama
therapist (not around one of the schools or large cities) is low about what you would see with a
masters level therapist that is not licensed here in Greensboro around $10 hr. this would be
different in say NYC but one NEEDS to have a state license as well.
I’ve read that there are not many registered drama therapists or dance therapists in North
Carolina. In what areas of the country is this type of therapy more common? The largest
concentrations are close to the schools and major cities so NY, San Francisco where the two
schools are (drama therapy) and NH, Chicago, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Colorado and NY
(dance therapy) and all other major cities. If you don’t live in a large city it is still done you just
may find yourself being a pioneer. This is why networking at the national conferences is so
What licensure requirements are there for CATs (Creative Art Therapists) in NC? Or what
is the difference between CAT and LPC? The best way to explain it and keep it simple cause
it can get really confusing is CAT, RDT, R-DMT etc. (the creative art therapy, drama therapy,
dance therapy etc.) are registries and are national and have NOTHING to do with state
licensure you get this cause you want it, it does not mean you can work in the state (ESP NC)
and sadly don't expect to get pay increases or have employers know what this is. Some will but
most won't my advice is peruse this if this is what YOU want, don't do it for pay, jobs etc. you
might be disappointed. But a selling point I tell people it is like I had to do 2 programs so I am a
wonderful verbal therapist and not only that I can work with the people verbal therapy does not
reach. (This comment normally "sells" it and helps add to the job). The LPC, LMSW, etc. are
STATE licenses these allow you to work as a therapist if you want to work in schools you better
get the state school license each state requires one some states. The LPC is most recognized I
want to say 40 out of the 50 states use it, now you still need it in your state, when I moved from
SC to NC I had to apply and take an extra course to get the NC LPC. This is when national
certifications help like the NCC. NC is very picky ESP here about having the LPC or other state
license so if you want this to be your main income you better get it. So look at programs that will
meet the LPC, LMSW etc. requirement. These are listed on the NC LPC web site and are
something like 60hrs that include a DSM diagnosis class, psychopathology class. All approved
drama and dance therapy programs meet these requirements. BE CAREFUL some programs
like A&T offer all of the courses but some are electives so if you are not careful you might not
take the right courses and still might not be eligible. Also once you get the MA you will have to
take a test it is a 200 question exam and do 2 years post masters work to get the LPC. Now
relax if you are active and pay attention to what you are doing you can peruse this and drama
and or dance/movement therapy at the same time. This can is and is done every day you just
need to gather all of the information, check for changes and keep GREAT documentation. Also
some times you can find people that can supervise for more than one credential. Like me I can
supervise for both the LPC in NC and for drama therapy and dance therapy. I am working on
being able to supervise individuals working on their state substance abuse certification as well.
Where do you have to live to do this job? Are there any professional organizations? This
depends on where you live and what population. Job descriptions normally include the
requirement for a license professional counselor or what is needed for your states licensure.
You can live anywhere and do this job, the more remote the less "known" you will be and the
more advocacy you will need to do to use drama therapy but people work as drama therapist all
over the world. I find that I often apply for a job listing looking for a LPC or a LCAS and it is the
explanation of how I can use drama and dance therapy that often sets me apart and helps me
get the job. There are the national associations for drama therapy, dance therapy, music
therapy, play therapy, art therapy and many more. There is also a field called psychodrama and
they have an association, web site and certification also there is a creative art therapy
certification with a national association and web site. I have a link to the national creative art
therapy web site under links on my web page check it out. People that interview depend on
what setting you are working in. this can be a jail, a nursing home, an in-pt spy hospital, a
private practice, a community center, a non profit, a domestic violence shelter, etc. Go to these
web sites!!! and http://www.nadt,org

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