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 1              2012 OMAHA LEAD SUPERFUND SITE


 3                        SOL-R7-12-00005



 6            Taken before Brianne L. Starkey, RPR, CRR,

 7   General Notary Public within and for the State of

 8   Nebraska, beginning at 11 a.m., on April 11, 2012,

 9   at the offices of the Omaha Public Schools,

10   3215 Cuming Street, Omaha, Nebraska.


12                     A P P E A R A N C E S

13   Yolanda Nero       Senior Contracting Officer
     Dave Drake         Section Chief, Superfund Division
14   Dan Garvey         Project Officer
     Jack Peterson      Senior Contracting Officer
15   Don Bahnke         Alternate Project Officer
     Chester Stovall    Small Business Specialist
16   Marie Noel         Senior Contracting Officer
     Vicki Damm         Database Manager
17   Pauletta           Alternate Project Officer








 1               (Whereupon, the following proceedings were

 2   had, to-wit:)

 3                    YOLANDA NERO:   Good morning to

 4   everyone.

 5                    ATTENDEE:   Morning.

 6                    YOLANDA NERO:   Don't know how to

 7   talk?   Good morning.   Once again, I do want to thank

 8   everyone for coming to this pre-bid conference.

 9   This is the Omaha lead superfund site, small

10   business pre-bid conference, and I just want to make

11   sure that everyone is at the right pre-bid

12   conference that you are anticipating bidding on, so

13   I'm going to announce the solicitation number for

14   this particular pre-bid conference there.

15               It is SOL-R7-12-00005.      Once again, I'm

16   going to reiterate that solicitation number.

17   SOL-R7-12-00005.    The title of this solicitation is

18   2012 Omaha lead superfund site contract or

19   solicitation.

20               My name is Yolanda Nero.     I am the

21   placement contracting officer for this contract.          I

22   will also be the backup CO on this contract managing

23   this contract.   And as I get ready to introduce our

24   staff, our team, you will be introduced to the

25   primary contracting officer that will be managing

 1   this contract.

 2              So for those of you all who were not here

 3   on this morning that was part of 8(a) pre-bid

 4   conference, I just want to give some logistics.       The

 5   rest rooms are outside to the left.   You should see

 6   the men and the women's rest room.

 7              So at this time, we just want to introduce

 8   our acquisition team that we have here with us this

 9   morning.   We do want to acknowledge our contracting

10   shop first.

11              We have Ms. Marie Noel.   She's a senior

12   contracting officer, and she's helping us at this

13   pre-bid today.

14              Then we also have Mr. Jack Peterson, a

15   senior contracting officer who is assisting in the

16   pre-bid.   And Mr. Jack Peterson will be the primary

17   CO on this particular small business contract.    So

18   Mr. Jack Peterson, if you'd raise your hand again.

19   That's all we have in the contract section.

20              Then I do want to introduce our project

21   officer on these contracts there.    For the small

22   business contract that we're in right now or

23   solicitation, our primary project officer is

24   Mr. Daniel Garvey.   He will be the project officer

25   managing the small business contract.

 1               And then his alternate project officer

 2   will be Ms. Pauletta France-Isetts.     She is the

 3   alternate.

 4               And then we also have Mr. Don Bahnke who

 5   manages all our paint contracts in the Omaha area,

 6   and he will also serve as a backup on these

 7   contracts if that is permitted there.

 8               And then last but not least, a couple more

 9   names.   We have one of our management staff here with

10   us today.    We have Mr. Dave Drake.   He is the

11   section chief for the superfund branch there.

12               And then last but not least, we have

13   our -- Mr. Chester Stovall, our small business

14   coordinator.

15               And I'm going to ask Chester if you could

16   come to give us a brief synopsis of the upcoming

17   business opportunities EPA is going to be providing.

18                    CHESTER STOVALL:   Thank you, Yolanda.

19               I'm Chester Stovall.    I'm a small business

20   specialist for EPA Region 7.    Welcome, everyone, to

21   the small business pre-bid conference for the Omaha

22   lead site residential yards.    We're glad you took

23   the time to come and maybe make some money for

24   yourself.

25               We know that you're here on business, and

 1   I think you'll find -- if this is your first time

 2   being at one of our pre-bid conferences or looking

 3   at one of your solicitations, let me say this, that

 4   we have a very good, strong contract shop in

 5   Kansas City and an equally strong and productive

 6   program shop in Kansas City.

 7            The scope of work that you see and the

 8   contract and the contract language, significant

 9   effort was made to make it as simple and as clean

10   and direct as it possibly could be made.

11            So we really hope you give us a good bid,

12   give us a good shot, and maybe you can win a nice

13   sized contract for your company.

14            We totally believe in small business, not

15   only because it makes sense to you but also because

16   in most cases where a large company's involved in

17   doing the work in the contract, they end up subbing

18   the work to actually perform the services to small

19   businesses.

20            So it's in our behalf -- it's in our

21   benefit to deal directly and not have to worry about

22   paying someone else to watch you.    We'll watch you

23   ourselves.    So it makes a lot of sense that way.

24            In terms of upcoming contracts, I've got

25   two of them I can talk about right now.    Both of

 1   these are service-disabled veteran set-asides we've

 2   determined.   The next one coming up.    We expect

 3   maybe in three to four weeks it'll be on the street.

 4   It'll be in Southwest Missouri in an area called

 5   Oronogo in Jasper County, Missouri.     Jasper County

 6   is the home of Joplin, Missouri.   That's going to be

 7   a lead mine waste remediation contract.    There will

 8   be a pre-bid conference on that approximately two

 9   weeks after the solicitation hits the street.

10   Expected value on that one is between 25 to

11   50 million.

12            Another contract that'll be coming up for

13   bid, solicitation not out yet either, but we expect

14   this one to be out in about maybe six weeks.    The

15   reason we're saying that is because the paperwork

16   has not actually been received in the contract

17   office, so we're not quite sure exactly when we're

18   going to be getting that.

19            If you want updates on that, my name -- my

20   number will be on the sign-in sheet.     Feel free to

21   call me anytime, and I can give you an update on

22   where we are in that regard.

23            But the second contract will be in a

24   County called Newton County, N-E-W-T-O-N.     Newton

25   County is directly south of Jasper County, directly

 1   south of I-44 in the southwest corner of Missouri.

 2   That will also be a lead mine waste remediation

 3   contract.    It'll also be a service-disabled veteran

 4   set-aside.    Expected value in the area of 15 to

 5   25 million.    As with all of our contracts, that also

 6   will have a pre-bid conference scheduled

 7   approximately two weeks following when the

 8   solicitation hits the street.

 9               Presolicitation notices for both of these

10   have not been issued yet.    The presolicitation

11   notice is kind of like a -- it will be placed on

12, FedBizOpps, at least two weeks ahead of

13   time.

14               So with that, we're glad you took a chance

15   to come up and see what we're doing, how we do

16   business.    I think when you find out more detail

17   about what we're doing, you'll see it could be a

18   good job to receive through your firm.

19               Most of you have done some contracting

20   work for large companies or maybe even some direct

21   work for some other firms.    Bidding and receiving a

22   contract from us, you get a chance to have on your

23   company's resume a direct prime contract with EPA.

24   It'll be very valuable to you.    We hope you take a

25   good, strong look at what we're doing and give us a

 1   good price.

 2               Two things, though.   Number one, there's a

 3   sign-in sheet that's going on.     Where's the sign-in

 4   sheet?    If you've got it, raise your hand.    Where's

 5   the other one?   Please make sure -- do yourself a

 6   favor, make sure you sign one of those sign-in

 7   sheets.

 8               I'm going to be leaving in a few minutes.

 9   When I raise my hand, I'll be going out the door to

10   make copies of it, and the plan is to get them back

11   to give to you before we leave this morning late.

12   Also those sign-in sheets will be posted online, so

13   it's very important that you get those done.

14               She's going to tell you, I'm going to tell

15   you right now also, no questions following the

16   pre-bid, so get your questions asked right now.

17   Back to our mistress of ceremonies, Yolanda Nero.

18                    YOLANDA NERO:    Thank you,

19   Mr. Stovall.   We introduced ourselves today;

20   therefore, we would like for you to introduce

21   yourselves there.    And we're going to pass along the

22   microphone, so I'm going to ask if you can provide

23   your name, your company, and whether you're a prime

24   or a sub.    If you can speak clearly and loudly into

25   the microphone so we can get it transcribed, I'd

 1   certainly appreciate that.

 2                   CHESTER STOVALL:    And also where

 3   you're from.

 4                   YOLANDA NERO:    Where you're from,

 5   that's right.

 6                   DANNY JORDAN:    Danny Jordan with SEE

 7   Environmental Construction.     We're from Omaha,

 8   Nebraska, and we would like to be prime or sub.

 9                   TONY RATHBUN:    Tony Rathbun, Heeter

10   Construction.   We're a prime contractor out of

11   Spencer, West Virginia, and Denver, Colorado.

12                   JANA PFEFFERKORN:    Jana Pfefferkorn

13   with Pfefferkorn Design & Construction out of

14   Kansas City, Missouri, and we are bidding as a sub.

15                   KYLE GUNION:    Kyle Gunion with

16   L and M Construction bidding as a prime from

17   Kansas City, Missouri.

18                   BRIAN MACKENZIE:    Brian Mackenzie

19   Sealand Enviro out of Connecticut bidding as a

20   prime.

21                   MARK BEDARD:    Mark Bedard, Sealand

22   Enviro, bidding as a prime from Connecticut.

23                   SAMUEL MUDUMALA:    Samuel Mudumala,

24   Prudent, Kansas City, Missouri, prime.

25                   RAUL GARCIA:    Raul Garcia, Vista

 1   Environmental.    We're bidding as a sub from

 2   California.

 3                     JOHN VRENICK:    John Vrenick, Prudent

 4   Technologies, bidding as a prime from Omaha,

 5   Nebraska.

 6                     CHANDRA SHEKAR:    Chandra Shekar,

 7   Shekar Engineering, Des Moines, Iowa, bidding as a

 8   prime.

 9                     SUDHIR MANTRI:    Sudhir Mantri,

10   Industrial & Environmental Services, Chicago,

11   bidding as a prime or sub.

12                    PATRICK BOLGER:     Patrick Bolger with

13   Denovo Constructors out of Chicago, prime.

14                    RICH FEDER:    Rich Feder,

15   Environmental Restoration, bidding as a prime.

16                    RON BROWN:    Ron Brown with

17   Environmental Restoration.      We're bidding as a

18   prime.   I'm out of the St. Louis office.       We have a

19   local Omaha office here that we staff out of.

20                    CANDY CROCKETT:     Candy Crockett, Iowa

21   Waste Systems.    I'm just here as an observer.

22                    DAVE CROCKETT:     Dave Crockett with

23   Iowa Waste Systems here as an observer.

24                    MEREDITH WATSON:    Meredith Watson

25   with Terranext.    We're out of Kansas City and sub.

 1                  JOSH RANDALL:     Josh Randall, QEPI in

 2   Indianapolis here as a sub.

 3                  BRIAN KEENEY:     Brian Keeney with HIS

 4   Constructors bidding as a prime out of Indianapolis.

 5                  KEITH WESTBERRY:    Keith Westberry,

 6   Etech Environmental.   We're out of Texas bidding as

 7   a sub.

 8                  BOB LOUDEN:     Bob Louden with

 9   Professional Environmental Engineers out of

10   Kansas City, and we're going to bid as a prime or a

11   sub.

12                  KELLEY SANDERS:    Kelley Sanders,

13   Professional Environmental Engineers, Omaha, prime

14   or sub.

15                  GARY JENKINS:    Gary Jenkins with

16   GB Environmental, bidding as a prime or sub out of

17   Omaha, Nebraska.

18                  DAVE HRON:    Dave Hron, EW Wells,

19   prime/sub, Omaha, Nebraska.

20                  JOSH LAYTON:     Josh Layton, Babcock

21   Construction, out of Hattiesburg, Mississippi,

22   bidding as a prime.

23                  TODD KEEL:    Todd Keel, Anderson

24   Excavating, Omaha, Nebraska, bidding as a prime.

25                  JOE McQUINN:    Joe McQuinn with

 1   Anderson Excavating out of Omaha bidding as a prime.

 2                  DAN MAY:   Dan May from Anderson

 3   Excavating, Omaha, Nebraska.

 4                  TAMARA BRUNOW:    Tamara Brunow, Brunow

 5   Contracting bidding as a subcontractor, Omaha,

 6   Nebraska.

 7                  KEVIN WRIGHT:     Kevin Wright,

 8   Grisham/Hoy out of Kansas City, Missouri, bidding as

 9   a prime.

10                  KELLY GREENE:    Kelly Greene out of

11   Kansas City, Grisham/Hoy, bidding as a prime.

12                  JUSTIN GRISHAM:     Justin Grisham,

13   Grisham/Hoy, Kansas City, prime.

14                  FRED WASHINGTON:    Fred Washington,

15   Coastal Environmental out of Omaha bidding as a

16   prime.

17                  JODI VACCARO:     Jodi Vaccaro, Coastal,

18   out of Omaha bidding as a prime.

19                  RALPH NICKOLAS:    Ralph Nickolas

20   MFH Environmental, out of the El Paso, Texas,

21   bidding as a prime.

22                  JOHN DOUGHERTY:    John Dougherty,

23   Dougherty Sprague Environmental, Dallas, sub.

24                  BILL YSTUETA:    Bill Ystueta with

25   Global Environmental out of St. Louis bidding as a

 1   sub.

 2                     PAUL HENDERSON:   Paul Henderson with

 3   QRI out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, bidding as a

 4   prime.

 5                     JADY NEW:    Jady New with QRI out of

 6   Baton Rouge, Louisiana, as a prime.

 7                     RONALD BATISTE:   Hello.   I'm Ronald

 8   Batiste, Eagle Environmental Construction out of

 9   San Francisco, California, bidding as a prime.

10                    YOLANDA NERO:    Thank you so very much

11   there.   Once again, we want to make sure everyone

12   has signed in, signed the attendance sheet for

13   Mr. Stovall to complete his task at hand.

14             Okay.    At this time, we're going to ask

15   Mr. Dan Garvey if you would come to present your

16   Power Point presentation on this contract, or

17   solicitation rather.    Thank you.

18                    DAVE DRAKE:    Just one quick note

19   before Dan starts.    We'll let him go through his

20   presentation without trying to interrupt him.      And

21   then when he's finished, we have some questions and

22   answers that have already been submitted, we'll go

23   through those.    And then after that, we will take

24   questions from the floor.

25             So there will be, you know, ample

 1   opportunity for everyone to ask questions.     We'll be

 2   here quite a while, so let's just start here with

 3   Dan's presentation, the formal question and answer,

 4   then from the floor.

 5                   DAN GARVEY:    Good morning.

 6                   ATTENDEE:     Morning.

 7                   DAN GARVEY:    I see about half the

 8   same faces I spoke to about an hour ago, so I'll try

 9   to change a word or two in this to keep you going

10   here.

11              My name's Dan Garvey.    I'm a project

12   officer on this project.      I've been involved with

13   Omaha since 2002.   I've seen a lot of changes on our

14   project over the years.     The first year I was here

15   we did 32 properties, and we thought we were

16   rocking.   And we did 2,000 properties the last

17   couple years, so it's a lot of changes.

18              Over the years, the project as we went

19   from what we referred to as a removal program,

20   remedial program, it seems like it gets tighter, our

21   paperwork gets tighter, the things that we do today,

22   the expectations, the contract in the statement of

23   work, it seems like they have gotten more stringent

24   over time.   And I would encourage everybody to study

25   the work statement real hard in preparing your bid.

 1               Generally when I think about the project,

 2   we did the most contaminated properties early on to

 3   alleviate our human health threat of lead in our

 4   community, and it's been great to be involved with

 5   the project.    And I kind of say it every time, but

 6   it's neat to be paid to help a community -- not only

 7   just to help them but alleviate a lead risk to

 8   people.     And it's just kind of fun, and you guys

 9   have the opportunity to win and get awarded this

10   contract and do the same thing.

11               I want to talk about two things to you.

12   I'm going to talk about what a project officer means

13   to you in the contract, and then I want to go

14   through this Power Point pretty quickly.

15               But a project officer is a term or label

16   where the ground -- we're the people on the ground

17   here in Omaha with the contractor.

18               You will basically -- you'll see the other

19   EPA people, but you'll see us the majority of the

20   time.     We will attend your weekly meetings.   I will

21   accept most all your deliverables.    I will initiate

22   your money for your funding.    I will receive all

23   your invoices and study it to approve it on behalf

24   of the U.S. government.    I will walk the properties

25   with you.    We get involved with citizen's

 1   complaints.

 2              And the group that gets to work this

 3   contract, you'll see a whole lot of me to get it

 4   done.    So we'll bounce into our Power Point.

 5              Just for those that are new to be here, to

 6   look at this is just our site area.   This is about

 7   27 square miles, and its boundaries are the river

 8   and Harrison Street and 56th and Read to the north.

 9   So it's a big area, lots of blocks, lots of areas.

10              I have -- I told you I changed one thing

11   what I did an hour ago.   I'll tell you a dog story.

12              The worst thing I can think of that ever

13   happened to me was in a backyard, and I was with a

14   couple contract employees.    And a pit bull came

15   running at me, and I saw I was with one of the

16   contractor people.   It was a 21-year-old young

17   woman.   I saw this blur run by me in the yard, and

18   you know, just almost push me over trying to get out

19   of that backyard.    But even in my 50s, I got out of

20   that backyard without getting attacked by the pit

21   bull.

22              So I would encourage the company that gets

23   awarded the contract that as long as you follow the

24   health and safety plan and understand OSHA

25   requirements and that kind of stuff, you can survive

 1   as long as me here without getting a pit bull

 2   attack.

 3             Just some numbers for you.    You know,

 4   these are just maximum numbers on the contract,

 5   potential numbers, so base quantity of 200 with five

 6   options of 100 properties each for 700 for the first

 7   three years, and then a base of 100 with four

 8   100 options for the last year of the contract, and

 9   those are potential numbers.

10             Property sketches are a big deal.     As we

11   have all done our project, you have to think

12   about -- like you look at this sketch on the top

13   that says '05.   And what could happen in seven years

14   on a property, like there's a building there now or

15   the trees got cut down, that kind of stuff.

16             These sketches are meant to be a fairly

17   accurate image of what this property is.   You can

18   see the quadrants that are assigned, and you can

19   tell the front of the property doesn't need to be

20   excavated because it's below the cleanup goal as

21   stated in your work statement, and the back half of

22   the property is and so there's words.

23             And everything I'm going to talk about is

24   work statement, work statement, work statement.     In

25   my role as a federal employee, I stick this thing in

 1   my back pocket.   I tell anybody, these people in the

 2   room that have worked on this project before,

 3   they'll tell you that that's what I reference when I

 4   talk.

 5            We talk about sketches, about sketch

 6   accuracy, about returning sketches to EPA and we

 7   correct them and we turn them around really quickly.

 8            And it's something that, you know, we

 9   don't necessarily all have to be changed, but

10   there's a portion of them that do have to change

11   because of kind of life events on these properties.

12            This is an example.   These homes vary in

13   size, and I just shot a picture of a home in Omaha

14   that we did and the square footage changed, so we

15   have sketches that have the properties on them.

16            But the sketches -- and you can review

17   those to try to calculate what you think is average

18   sizes, but this is just one of them.

19            Each one of these slides I show, I'd be

20   looking at the words I'm writing on the slide

21   because that's what I'm going to be talking to the

22   group about is Section 2.6.1, backfill quality.     We

23   have stringent requirements.   We don't want to

24   excavate a bunch of properties in Omaha over ten or

25   fifteen years and find out that we've left a

 1   disaster in the community because of soil that's not

 2   the proper soil or grading or compaction techniques,

 3   and we list those in there.

 4             And when you look at this property, the

 5   first thing I look at in the middle of that yard, is

 6   that a shadow or is that erosion in the yard because

 7   it took too long to put the sod down?

 8             And so as we -- you go through the process

 9   of doing your yards, remediate your yards, we spend

10   a lot of time writing the documents you should

11   follow, and we have requirements for when you put

12   the sod down and having that soil in a ready

13   condition to be successful for the property owner.

14            The contractor will sample their own depth

15   of excavation on these properties and is a

16   third-party check for the government and basically

17   for the community.

18            We have EPA personnel here that are on

19   staff that will go out and they'll just show up, a

20   Tuesday, a Wednesday, or whatever day of the week

21   that they show, and they'll contact the key -- the

22   point of contact for the contractor and say we want

23   to sample the property.   They will go out and do

24   that.

25             My experience with it is they are fairly

 1   timely with this.    There's words in your work

 2   statement that -- I think it's 24 hours that they

 3   have to accomplish this or you can move forward.

 4   And they will use the same technique for the same

 5   thing that you do.

 6               And if it fails, they will contact you,

 7   and you're required to go back and excavate a little

 8   bit more to achieve our cleanup goal.   And that has

 9   worked fairly well for us.

10               One change in this contract is the 4-inch

11   minimum, and it should be known for people that have

12   bid on this project before, we have kind of gone

13   full circle.   We used to dig deeper depths, and then

14   we moved towards the shallower, and now we're

15   back -- kind of back where we were when I first got

16   here, for a minimum excavation of 4 inches.

17               And so I told the first group when I

18   looked at that photo, I wasn't thinking about the

19   4-inch minimum, but what I put on there, well,

20   that's a pretty good photo.    When I go out and look

21   at it, is that a 4-inch excavation along that

22   concrete?    So that'll be one of the kind of things

23   that the government people will look at.

24               In my experience here, two biggest

25   problems we have on this project with property

 1   owners are sod issues and damage on properties.     And

 2   so I try to emphasize these two topics in the

 3   presentation, backfill quality, grading, compaction.

 4            We have tightened our backfill

 5   requirements and have worked with experts in the

 6   field to -- you know, what is an achievable type of

 7   soil to put down that does not cause unacceptable

 8   infestation of insects in five years or ten years

 9   after we leave, that kind of stuff.

10            And we have requirements like 5 percent

11   organic content in this contract, nutrient --

12   different kind of nutrient testing, along with our

13   contaminants are of concern.

14            Just more backfill, I'm also -- I'm not an

15   equipment operator, but I think we all want to be.

16   When I go to these properties and watch the grading

17   that they do, you know, you look at that.

18            And I don't know if you all think much

19   when you look at that, but when you sit at my desk

20   and I get a property owner that calls two years

21   later and says, Hey, the soil's dropped 4 inches

22   along that sidewalk, that kind of stuff, that's why

23   we have those requirements in there, to let your

24   skilled operators be skilled and to slope away from

25   foundations and drainage on properties.

 1               I've seen a lot of good operators up here,

 2   and the good ones you just kind of stand there.

 3   That's why you're making the money you're making to

 4   do it because they're truly valuable people on our

 5   success of the project.

 6               All the properties are I think like

 7   100 years old, all these -- they're varying

 8   conditions of repair or disrepair.     We have

 9   requirements about pre-video.    I would look at that

10   closely.    You know, you look at that fence and you

11   say, that fence is broken or missing pieces or

12   whatever.

13               The people in our site area are not too

14   much different than people anywhere.    I don't know

15   too many people that count the cracks in their

16   driveway and they know there's only 99 cracks

17   instead of 100, or if that's a missing plank there

18   in that fence and that happened two years ago or six

19   months ago.

20               We deal with a lot of landlords that have

21   20 properties, and they definitely don't know what

22   plank is what.   Once you intervene with somebody,

23   then all of a sudden that kind of stuff becomes a

24   more current topic of discussion.

25               So anyway, we require that when you -- I

 1   tell anybody on this project that -- I just told the

 2   group this morning when we visited the properties,

 3   the way that I feel like I've been successful here

 4   is to treat everybody with respect.

 5               A lot of these properties -- some of the

 6   properties are going to be great, some of the

 7   properties are going to be not great, some of the

 8   properties are going to be in between.    But the one

 9   thing I've learned is the guy that's got $10 in his

10   pocket, that's his $10 and that's -- that's very

11   important to people.

12               And so whether it's concrete or whether

13   it's fence, you know, you better treat it -- because

14   if that person only has that money to have a fence

15   that has one plank missing, that's pretty important

16   to them.    I'd be thinking about that.

17               It has words in your work statement as

18   accessing other people's property.    This does not

19   mean that, like, you know, I don't care or I could

20   just go on these other people's properties and do

21   this work.   I'm looking at a property that doesn't

22   look like the property owner cares about their

23   property.    It doesn't give you a right to do that.

24   It also states that you video if you access somebody

25   else's property.

 1            The other -- talked about sod issues.      The

 2   problem -- well, the issue is that we do so many

 3   properties here that we receive phone calls -- I

 4   receive phone calls from complaints from ten years.

 5   My grass hasn't grown from ten years ago, my grass

 6   hasn't grown from five years ago, that kind of

 7   thing.

 8            It's when the project is unusual.    Omaha

 9   is unusual just because we do so many properties,

10   which is unusual for EPA.   And you can imagine

11   putting grass down on 2,000 people's properties a

12   year who each one of them understands lawn care in a

13   different way.

14            So we have done our best with the front

15   end of this to study what is the proper way, what is

16   the proper type of soil to put down, what are the

17   proper requirements for sod to give this community

18   the best chance of success.

19            One thing that's different this year which

20   I really like is biodegradable backing on sod is a

21   requirement in this contract.   And for those of you

22   that haven't worked here before, the reason that's a

23   big deal, one reason I'll say is if you have sod

24   growth with somebody and this plastic stuff is

25   sticking and there's little bubbles all over the

 1   yard, then it's like a separate thing that gets them

 2   mad in addition to their sod not growing.     So we put

 3   that in this new contract.

 4               I just -- I got a couple slides here on

 5   damage.     I just say damage, damage, damage.   You

 6   have to -- every person in your crew is important to

 7   your -- my experience is every person is important

 8   to your bottom line.    You go on these driveways and

 9   these things are cracked, you better be thinking

10   about putting something down or doing something to

11   prevent damage on people's driveways.

12               It's -- it's not a -- there's a

13   significant portion of the work statement there that

14   talks about it.    This is not, like, we'll worry

15   about -- it's an important part of the project.

16               We've been successful here at the Omaha

17   lead site because this community has not rallied to

18   crucify us because we're not concerned about their

19   welfare.    And I would be thinking about it and

20   you -- states in the work statement about what you

21   will do about it and repairs.

22               You know, I didn't ask if you could see

23   this, right?    Can you see it?   Should we turn that

24   light on?

25               Probably can't read those words, but I

 1   shot this picture because this is an example of

 2   somebody calling me from, like, five years ago.     We

 3   deal with seniors, handicapped, you know, all kinds

 4   of people in all kinds of situations.   She's calling

 5   me telling me that this happened several years ago.

 6   It's not necessarily a responsibility of your

 7   current contract.   I'm just telling you what we're

 8   faced with on the site.

 9              You can see the cracks on the left-hand

10   side.   You know, the citizen is talking to me about

11   improper compaction along that sidewalk, and three

12   years later, we caused a crack.   And I'm on a fixed

13   income, I have no money, and I want to know what EPA

14   is going to do about that.

15              That's what I -- to me it's all about

16   people and the problems here, and so I'm standing

17   out there with this property owner who I can tell

18   does not have any money and just hanging on to her

19   home, and I'm thinking about words we can put in a

20   work statement for future contracts that might help,

21   you know, in the business we can to avoid these kind

22   of situations.

23              Recent thing in recent years on our --

24   it's like I said, things have tightened up on the

25   project.   In your statement of work, it talks about

 1   all different kinds of other federal regulations and

 2   things that you comply with.

 3              And this is another section.   As you

 4   prepare your bids, I'd be thinking about that this

 5   means you should really have an understanding of the

 6   broad spectrum of other regulations that you're

 7   doing, like Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plans,

 8   like the Clean Water Act.

 9              And the idea of working that group, the

10   idea when I listen to them talk is we don't want

11   sediment to go into our river and violate federal

12   regulations.

13              So in the areas where you house your

14   activities, you can see the kind of steps, a few

15   examples that I show, that you will comply with our

16   project.

17              It's pretty -- we've been here in the

18   field since 1999, and so obviously everybody knows

19   who we are and what we're doing.   We get a lot of

20   city exposure, and our leaders have made a lot of

21   commitments to a lot of different people.   And to

22   make it work, we honor these other rules.   So I

23   would be thinking about those kind of things.

24              EPA has been involved with community

25   meetings and neighborhood associations and lots of

 1   people like that.    And for us to use an area,

 2   everything is, like, right next door to where either

 3   a school is or kids are playing.    So for us to use

 4   areas with contaminated soil, this is not just dump

 5   it and, you know, let's make our money kind of a

 6   thing.   There's all kind of things to be thinking

 7   about.

 8             So we have a lot of rules in our work

 9   statement that talk about -- for example, roadways

10   are not tracked.    And I'm not saying particularly

11   with the slide that this is, you know, the most

12   flagrant thing I've ever seen on a superfund site.

13             The idea is if you live across the street

14   and you have a little kid and you're driving

15   through, soil running down the street like that, is

16   that something I'd be thinking about?   It'd be

17   something I would be thinking about if I lived

18   across the street.

19             Along with blowing dust, these areas I'm

20   talking about are -- we're stewards of presence in

21   these areas in Omaha, and when you have them,

22   there's words about engineering controls for dust

23   suppression, that kind of thing.

24             And, you know, this amount of dust is -- I

25   guess we could have a breakout session about that

 1   kind of thing.   But the idea is when blowing dust

 2   is -- you know, when a contaminated stockpile is

 3   blowing into neighborhoods, we're trying to tell --

 4   the Environmental Protection Agency is supposed to

 5   be role models for alleviating health hazards,

 6   that's not a good thing.    So I would be thinking

 7   about reading that portion.

 8             Just, you know, if you drive around Omaha

 9   and you look at all the different groups that are

10   doing construction projects, you say, Well, we're

11   better than those guys.    We see a lot worse

12   violations.

13             But you know, again, it's just stormwater

14   drains.   They do have -- in the last probably three

15   or four years, they send -- we work a superfund, but

16   EPA has got different environmental laws, different

17   sections of EPA, and they send inspectors out here

18   that'll -- that are very skilled in those portions,

19   and they have these inspectors come out and look for

20   these kind of things, so I'd be thinking about it.

21             Basically, we're bound just by the terms

22   of your contract, and you'll see languages in there,

23   language in there about backfill source.   We'll take

24   your Stormwater Pollution Plan that's required, and

25   I'll go visit these places and I'll look at this

 1   and -- they call them BMP, best management

 2   practices, the Stormwater Prevention Pollution Plan.

 3            And then frequently you're supposed to

 4   document that you're monitoring this kind of stuff,

 5   so we're looking at that as just one more thing that

 6   we monitor.

 7            We've got several visits from the

 8   inspectors in that group, and I definitely learned

 9   by being with them and they talk about when you

10   uncover a bare area that you have to have vegetation

11   for a certain distance of a waterway and all those

12   kinds of things, so I just encourage you to at least

13   be familiar.

14            There's, like, forms for the Stormwater

15   Pollution Prevention Plan that are on the Internet

16   that you can Google, and just be aware of those kind

17   of things.    That's it.

18                    YOLANDA NERO:   Thank you very much,

19   Dan.

20            Now we're getting ready to proceed into

21   our questions and answers, the questions that I

22   received in advance.   Once these questions are

23   answered, you will have the opportunity if you have

24   any questions to write your questions down on the

25   cards that we have provided to you, but I'm going to

 1   ask you to print your question legibly so we can

 2   answer it appropriately there.

 3            Then after we've received those, when we

 4   receive those questions, we're going to take about a

 5   15-minute break to answer the questions.     Then we

 6   will have -- offer an opportunity for just open

 7   questions there if some additional questions come

 8   up.

 9                  DAVE DRAKE:     Just one quick thing, we

10   forgot to introduce Vickie Damm this morning,

11   another EPA person who's with us, and Vickie is our

12   database manager.

13            So all of -- as you can imagine, this

14   project will generate an enormous amount of data,

15   and Vickie is the person who you -- whoever the

16   winning bidder is will work with quite a bit on the

17   management of all the environmental data that comes

18   from your project.   She's actually doing all the

19   data for all the contractors at the site.    She's an

20   old hand at doing that, and she is here today.

21   Vickie, there she is.    She's cold.

22                  YOLANDA NERO:    Thank you.   I didn't

23   see you over in that corner there.

24            We're getting ready to proceed with our

25   questions and answers.

 1       Q.   First question:    The first paragraph in

 2   Section L-6 --

 3                    YOLANDA NERO:   Some of these

 4   questions may be repeated from this morning, so if

 5   they sound familiar, that's the reason why, but

 6   we're going to reiterate it.

 7       Q.   First paragraph in Section L-6 requires

 8   the company to demonstrate experience with the

 9   contract of similar size or complexity performed

10   within the last three years.     The EPA's current

11   estimate for this project is between 13 million and

12   $60 million.

13            Does the contractor need to demonstrate

14   experience on projects in this dollar range?     If

15   not, what is the minimum dollar value, the EPA would

16   consider to be of similar size?

17       A.   Relevant experience is defined as remedial or removal

18   activities that are performed on hundreds of

19   properties within a construction season.

20            In addition, the residential properties

21   should be within an urban area where there are

22   multiple interested parties and issues to deal with.

23            This requires prospective bidder to

24   provide evidence that residential remediation work

25   in an urban setting has been performed by the

 1   contractor in the last three years.

 2          Q.   The next question:   The second paragraph

 3   in Section L-6 requires client references for

 4   similar contracts.

 5               Will experience for employees currently

 6   employed by a company but who obtained their

 7   experience working on other companies be used to

 8   demonstrate experience, or does the experience need

 9   to have been performed by the company submitting the

10   bid?

11          A.   The company submitting the bid must

12   demonstrate that it has performed similar work in

13   the past.    The work effort must be residential yard

14   cleanup, either remedial or removal, in an urban

15   environment.   Experience for key personnel may be

16   from other employers.

17          Q.   Next question:   Section L-6 specifies a

18   minimum requirement for key personnel, example,

19   project manager, superintendent.    Most of these

20   positions require a person to have a minimum of

21   three years' experience with residential remediation

22   or cleanup activities.   It's unclear what is meant

23   by cleanup activities.

24               For example, would working on an oil spill

25   qualify as a cleanup activity, or would the cleanup

 1   activity have to have been performed on a

 2   residential remediation project?

 3       A.   Cleanup activities for purposes of this

 4   contract includes remedial or removal activities that

 5   are performed on hundreds of properties within a

 6   single construction season.

 7            In addition, the residential properties

 8   should be within an urban area where there are

 9   multiple interested parties and issues to deal with.

10            Cleanup of an oil spill, if it impacted

11   hundreds of residential properties in an urban area,

12   could be considered as experience.

13       Q.   Next question:    As a follow-up to the

14   previous question, if oil spill cleanup is not

15   considered relevant experience, would the EPA

16   provide examples of cleanup activities?

17       A.   Oil spill cleanup would only be considered

18   if hundreds of residential properties within an

19   urban area within a single construction season had

20   been addressed within the scope of one contract or

21   task order.

22            EPA wants the prospective bidder to

23   provide experience in removing contaminants from

24   residential yards.   These activities need to have

25   been performed in urban areas where there are

 1   multiple stakeholders and issues to be considered.

 2       Q.      Next question:   On previous Omaha

 3   contracts, the EPA has modified the contract to

 4   include new Davis-Bacon wage determinations multiple

 5   times in each year.

 6               Will EPA provide the rationale that will

 7   be used to determine when the new wage

 8   determinations will be flowed down?

 9                    YOLANDA NERO:   Let me make one

10   comment on that.   I forgot to make this statement

11   earlier.

12               Per the Department of Labor memorandum

13   written in conjunction to EPA, projects primarily of

14   the Davis-Bacon Act will exclusively use DBA wages.

15   No SCA labor classifications will be utilized on

16   this contract as this is a competitive contract.

17               Long story short, no conformances will be

18   pursued once an award is made.    Answer your

19   question.

20       A.      EPA will provide the Davis-Bacon wage

21   determinations current at the time exercised of the

22   option period; however, multiple changes to the wage

23   determinations may occur within the contract period.

24   The contractor must comply with any change to the

25   wage determinations, but in accordance to

 1   Clause I.35, EPA will not make any adjustments to

 2   contract price.

 3       Q.     Next question:    Is EPA going to provide

 4   the water treatment plant for a temporary staging

 5   yard for both the 8(a) and the small business

 6   contracts?

 7       A.     No.    EPA will not be providing the waste

 8   water treatment plant to either contractor for

 9   temporary staging.

10       Q.     Next question:    How many properties has

11   the EPA confirmed still requires remediation,

12   example, already tested?

13       A.     Currently, there are approximately

14   5,000 properties that are known to require

15   remediation.     For pricing purposes, if all option

16   periods are exercised, your maximum guarantee is

17   only 700 properties.

18       Q.     Next question:    CLIN 1008 refers to

19   experts.   Will EPA provide the qualification they

20   would expect for the soil and plant expert?        For

21   example, would the owner/operator of the plant

22   nursery be considered a plant expert?

23       A.     First, the reference to disposal under

24   CLIN 0008 will be deleted.     CLIN can be defined as

25   any experts with experience on issues related to

 1   agricultural concerns.   Expected qualification shall

 2   be at minimum master's degree with two years' field

 3   experience in a scientific discipline relative to

 4   the issue of concern.

 5       Q.      Next question:   CLIN 0007 is for a

 6   professional engineer.   Please clarify the type of

 7   engineer that will be required.    Example, civil,

 8   architectural, structural?

 9       A.      Per the performance work statement, the

10   professional engineer is a structural engineer

11   licensed in the state of Nebraska.    The PWS -- the

12   performance work statement will be modified to

13   include in the state of Nebraska.

14       Q.      Next question:   CLIN 0007 is for a

15   professional engineer, and costs vary greatly

16   depending on their level of experience.     Please

17   clarify if this is for a licensed P.E. or whether an

18   individual with an engineering degree in an

19   engineering discipline is acceptable.

20       A.      CLIN 0007 refers to a professional

21   structural engineer licensed in the state of

22   Nebraska.

23       Q.      Next question:   Considering the engineer

24   may be required to determine responsibility for

25   damages to property, i.e., subsidence issues, is the

 1   EPA requiring a third-party engineer, or can the

 2   engineer be an employee of the company?

 3       A.    EPA is requiring that the engineer be a

 4   third party.

 5       Q.    Next question:    Considering the unknown

 6   level of efforts required for the engineer and the

 7   potential conflict of interest of utilizing a

 8   contractor employee, would the EPA deleting this

 9   CLIN and allow an engineering costs to be as an ODC?

10   This would provide the EPA with an avenue to access

11   an engineer for any varying situation.

12       A.   The answer is no.

13       Q.   Final question as it pertains to

14   professional engineering.

15            If a licensed professional engineer is

16   required, please identify whether a Nebraska

17   licensed engineer is required, or if you will accept

18   a license from any licensing authority.

19       A.   As stated previously, professional

20   structural engineer licensed in the state of

21   Nebraska is required.

22       Q.   Next question:     Pricing for Option Year 3

23   includes CLIN 2005.   CLIN 2005 is also used in

24   Option Year 2.   Unlike most other CLINs, this CLIN

25   does not specify the number of properties that will

 1   be comprised, meaning Lot 1.

 2               Did the EPA intend this to be

 3   100 properties, or is it intended to be one

 4   property?

 5       A.      The pricing schedule for Option Year 3

 6   will be amended to correct this.

 7       Q.      Next question:   Section L-6 describes the

 8   duties of the health and safety manager.     In this

 9   description, it states that the safety manager or

10   his designee should be in Omaha.    It's unclear

11   whether this person should be or must be in Omaha.

12               Is EPA requiring a full-time health and

13   safety officer to be on site at all times?

14       A.      The health and safety officer or his or

15   her representative must be in Omaha.    A person that

16   is knowledgeable of and has received training in

17   health and safety issues must be present in Omaha

18   while remediation work is ongoing.

19       Q.      Next question:   The pricing schedule

20   includes grand totals for each option period;

21   however, there doesn't seem to be a space for the

22   contractor to tally all option periods.

23               Does EPA intend to add the option periods

24   together at the bid opening, or should the

25   contractor include the price that reflects the total

 1   of all option periods at the end of the pricing

 2   schedule?

 3       A.      A grand total line will be added to the

 4   pricing schedule.

 5       Q.      Next question:   Can one company win both

 6   the contracts?

 7       A.      No.   They can bid on both contracts;

 8   however, they can only win one.    An 8(a) prime

 9   cannot be a sub to a small business prime or provide

10   equipment and personnel because EPA wants to

11   maximize the small business opportunity and prevent

12   a single contract teaming arrangement from receiving

13   both awards.

14       Q.      Next question:   Can one company be prime

15   on one contract and be a sub on the other?

16       A.      No.   The answer to this question is the

17   same as the one before.

18               They can bid on both contracts; however,

19   they can only one win.    An 8(a) prime cannot be a

20   sub to a small business prime or provide equipment

21   and personnel because EPA wants to maximize small

22   business opportunity and prevent a single contract

23   teaming arrangement from receiving both awards.

24       Q.      Next question:   CLIN 0007, independent

25   professional engineers can be $200 an hour.    Can we

 1   use in-house professional engineers?

 2       A.   EPA is requiring that the engineer be a

 3   third party.

 4       Q.   Next question:      CLIN 0009, the cost of

 5   retaining wall will be as high as $30,000 depending

 6   on the material, height, and length of the wall.

 7            Can EPA provide information of existing

 8   retaining walls?

 9                    YOLANDA NERO:   Let me make another

10   statement too.   All questions pertaining to the

11   replacement and/or repair of retaining walls will be charged

12   under the ODC CLIN.   An amount to the pricing

13   schedule will be reissued.

14       A.   The answer that I have to the actual

15   question is a replacement and/or repair of the

16   retaining walls will be charged under ODC CLIN.        An

17   amendment to the pricing schedule will be reissued.

18       Q.   Next question:      CLIN 0010, what does other

19   structural items comprise of?

20       A.   An amendment will be reissued to remove

21   CLIN 0010.   Such charges will be in the ODC CLIN.

22                    YOLANDA NERO:   These next questions I

23   received this morning, so we really didn't have an

24   opportunity to answer them in advance, but we're

25   going to ask the question and you'll respond to it.

 1       Q.      Have soils excavated from residential

 2   yards been used/been approved for use previously in

 3   Iowa, Nebraska, or Missouri as beneficial fill?

 4       A.      No.   Soils from the Omaha lead site have

 5   been disposed of at approved Subtitle D waste

 6   facilities.

 7       Q.      Next question:     In reference to the final

 8   management of excavated materials, Paragraphs No. 2

 9   and No. 3 on Page 43 of the final record of decision

10   operable Unit 02 dated May 13, 2009.       These

11   questions are in reference to that.

12               Has option No. 2 or No. 3 been approved or

13   utilized on previous projects in Iowa, Nebraska, or

14   Missouri?

15       A.      No.

16       Q.      The next question as it pertains to that

17   statement:    Per Option No. 3, will approval be given

18   for utilization of Anderson Excavating Company,

19   Subtitle D Iowa landfill at 2520 Kanesville

20   Boulevard, Council Bluffs, Iowa?

21       A.      That is unknown.    Any landfill accepting

22   waste from a superfund site must conform with the

23   offsite policy, be a licensed facility, have no

24   violations, and have state and local concurrence to

25   accept the waste.

 1            The successful bidder would have to make

 2   that proposal to EPA, and EPA would have to review

 3   all the documents, talk with state and local people

 4   before a decision can be made.

 5                  YOLANDA NERO:    These are the

 6   questions I receive in advance.    We're going to take

 7   about a 15-minute break.    If you have questions,

 8   please write them down on the card.   Please print

 9   and provide them to me.    I will be standing over

10   there.

11            I'm going to ask that you all not go to

12   the desk so therefore they can concentrate on

13   responding.   And then we will answer those

14   questions.

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 1               (At 12:12 p.m., with parties present as

 2   before, the following proceedings were had,

 3   to-wit:).

 4                     YOLANDA NERO:    I'm going to ask

 5   Ms. Pauletta France-Isetts, if you would read the

 6   question and then provide the answer.

 7       Q.      Will the EPA provide a staging area for

 8   contaminated soil material and backfill fill

 9   material?

10       A.      No.   You need to see 2.5.4 of the

11   performance work statement.       It specifically says

12   that EPA will not provide staging storage areas.

13               In addition, the proposed staging

14   locations have to be submitted to EPA and available

15   for public comment before they will be approved.

16       Q.      Will subcontractor experience qualify for

17   use for minimum experience requirements?

18       A.      Subcontractor experience will be

19   considered in addition to the prime's experience.

20   You can't base all of it on just your

21   subcontractor's experience.

22       Q.      Please disclose bid results from previous

23   contracts for similar work.

24       A.      That information will not be provided.

25       Q.      On backfilling, is there any type of cap

 1   being used on properties?

 2       A.      No.     The only exception to that is if a

 3   property owner specifically asks that gravel be

 4   placed on the compacted backfill instead of sod.         In

 5   addition to that, it has to be approved by EPA.

 6       Q.      On damage, how much will the EPA give in

 7   to citizen who is claiming we destroyed personal

 8   property?

 9       A.      The reason that we're requiring

10   pre-video/pre-photographs of the properties is that

11   the contractor is responsible for validating claims

12   made.

13               In other words, if you don't have

14   documentation to prove that it preexisted, you may

15   be on the hook, and that's why it's so important

16   that you pre-video or pre-photograph the properties

17   and any damage that's there because it's your

18   responsibility to provide documentation to us that

19   you didn't cause the damage.

20       Q.      What is the warranty period?    How long?

21   Citizen's not watering properly?

22       A.      Okay.    The contractor, according to the

23   performance work statement, is responsible for

24   watering the sod for 30 days.

25               Now, we have had contractors in the past

 1   who had made arrangements with the property owners

 2   to actually conduct and perform the watering.

 3   However, those property owners are to be reimbursed

 4   for the water used.     Okay?

 5               A 30-day establishment period for the sod

 6   is the responsibility of the contractor.       They pay

 7   the costs associated with the water.     In general

 8   terms, though, we do have an additional 90-day warranty period

 9   during which they can bring up claims, problems,

10   concerns.

11               And as Dan alluded, they're not -- they

12   don't hold to the 90 days.      We get them ten years

13   later.

14       Q.      Is the performance bond, payment bond,

15   only 20 percent of the bid price?

16       A.      Yes.

17       Q.      Can we get a copy of the Power Point

18   presentation?

19       A.      Yes.   That will be included in the

20   amendment.

21       Q.      Is business risk insurance required?

22       A.      No.

23       Q.      Is pollution insurance required?

24       A.      A prudent business person in this line of

25   work would have pollution insurance.

 1       Q.    What are the limits of general liability,

 2   umbrella, and auto insurance requirements?

 3       A.    Such insurance is required; however, EPA

 4   will not dictate in what amount.

 5       Q.    Is the site considered a superfund site?

 6       A.    Yes.

 7       Q.    If the site is a superfund site, do the

 8   insurance requirements of a superfund site apply?

 9       A.    Yes.

10       Q.    Will there be a bid date extension?

11       A.    That is not anticipated.

12       Q.    When will the amendment be posted?

13       A.    Early next week.

14       Q.    Are there any additional insurance

15   requirements that apply, i.e., third party?

16       A.    Those previously mentioned and/or required

17   by law.

18       Q.    Are there any special indemnifications

19   required, i.e., the City of Omaha?

20       A.    No.

21       Q.    Are there any special contractor licensing

22   requirements?

23       A.    No.

24       Q.    Will there be any requirement for lead

25   based -- lead paint stabilization around the drip

 1   zones in this project?

 2       A.      No.   Paint is its own separate contract.

 3       Q.      When you say only one can win a contract,

 4   if a small business working on the small business

 5   contract and an 8(a) hires or teams with team for

 6   the 8(a), the statement win or verbiage doesn't

 7   necessarily suggest unable to work on contract.

 8       A.      The same team of contractors will not be

 9   awarded both contracts, even if prime and sub is

10   inverted.

11       Q.      And the last one that I have is are the

12   drawings to scale?    And if so, what is the scale?

13       A.      The answer is the drawings are not to

14   scale, but there is a Web site.      The Douglas County

15   assessor has a Web site, and you can access that to

16   get the dimensions of the lot to give you a better

17   idea of what the sketch is -- proportion sizes.

18               But I will tell you that some of these

19   sketches were done in '99, and it takes an

20   imagination sometimes for them to be -- a good

21   imagination for them to be put into a perspective of

22   what is actually out there.

23                     YOLANDA NERO:   Thank you,

24   Ms. Pauletta.

25               Do we have any more questions, open floor

 1   questions?   And if so, if you will stand, give your

 2   name, your company, and the question.     Hold on one

 3   second, sir.

 4                   CHESTER STOVALL:   Is there a mike?

 5   I'll get it.

 6                   RON BROWN:    Ron Brown, Environmental

 7   Restoration.

 8             What percentage do you think the

 9   properties will be more towards the Dundee area this

10   go-around versus the other way?     I mean, there are

11   multimillion dollar homes up there, you know.     Do

12   y'all anticipate like a bigger surge in the Dundee

13   area as far as the areas.

14                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:    I don't know

15   the answer to that question.     I do know that -- we

16   haven't looked at the actual what's left.    But I

17   think, you know, there's probably -- it'll be

18   similar to what it's been in the past, you know.

19                   DAN GARVEY:    You know, I was going to

20   say, these CDs have 200 sketches on it, you know,

21   that should be generally representative of, you

22   know, the contract and what you're bidding on.

23   These are available with Yolanda when they get done.

24                   KYLE GUNION:   Kyle Gunion with

25   L and M Construction.

 1              On the last round of contracts, how many

 2   houses were awarded to each contractor,

 3   Environmental Restoration, Prudent, and Coastal?

 4   How many houses were -- did they complete under

 5   their contracts?

 6                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:    All right.

 7   Environmental Restoration completed 2,000.    Coastal

 8   is finishing up their 2,000.     Prudent has finished

 9   1400, and they have been -- they have or will be

10   awarded another 700 this year for 2100.

11                   KYLE GUNION:    And those are all soil

12   remediation?

13                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:    That's

14   correct.

15                   TONY RATHBUN:    My name's Tony Rathbun

16   Heeter Construction.   I just have one clarification.

17   You said business risk insurance.    I was referencing

18   builder's risk insurance just so I'm clear.

19                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:    We still

20   don't need that.

21                   YOLANDA NERO:    Any more questions?

22   This is your opportunity to make sure everything is

23   clear.

24                   DAVE DRAKE:    Just one quick reminder,

25   no more questions after this.    We can't accept any

 1   more emails, no phone calls, no questions of any

 2   type.   So this is really your very last opportunity

 3   to ask anything.     So we're here to do this for you

 4   guys, so I would encourage you to ask.        I think we

 5   have a question right here.

 6                      RON BROWN:   Ron Brown, Environmental

 7   Restoration.

 8              The 709 sod scrapes you guys are

 9   anticipating, is that from old issues, or is that to

10   go along with the properties due to the homeowners

11   want the whole yards done?

12                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:       This was a

13   question that we did have under the 8(a) this

14   morning.   The sod scrapes are to be quadrants, and

15   they're only to be done to gain access to those

16   properties where a PO, the property owner, refuses

17   to grant access unless specified quadrants are done

18   in addition to the qualifying quadrant or quadrants.

19                   DAVE DRAKE:      Okay.   Another one over

20   here.

21                   KYLE GUNION:     My name's Kyle with

22   L and M.

23              Okay.    I have another question.     The

24   prime, I did see language where there might be

25   conditions to where they don't have to perform

 1   in-house 51 percent.    Is that true, or is it always

 2   51 percent in-house by the prime.

 3                    MARIE NOEL:     It's always 51 percent

 4   for the prime.

 5                    DAVE DRAKE:     Okay.   We have another

 6   one here.

 7                    TONY RATHBUN:    Tony Rathbun, Heeter

 8   Construction.

 9               I apologize if I missed the answer

10   already.    I'm just going over my notes.     But is

11   there a list of properties that you're anticipating

12   are a part of this contract that I can go at least

13   look at?

14                    PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:      We have a CD

15   here with property sketches for the 200 properties

16   that will be awarded with the contract as a result

17   of this solicitation.    We will be amending the

18   solicitation to include a list of those properties.

19                    DAVE DRAKE:   Okay.     Great.   Great

20   questions here at the end.     Any additional

21   questions?   I see some scurrying here with papers.

22   Now's the time to go ahead and ask because -- that's

23   okay.   This is it.   This is the final opportunity.

24                    TONY RATHBUN:    I feel like I'm filing

25   my taxes.

 1                   PAULETTA FRANCE-ISETTS:     It's time.

 2                   DAVE DRAKE:     It's actually the

 3   17th this year.    We have a couple of extra days.

 4   Mine are not done.   That's what I'm doing when I get

 5   home.

 6                   YOLANDA NERO:     All right.   This is

 7   it.   Once again, I will be standing at the door for

 8   those who would like to receive a copy of the field

 9   sheets.    I'm going to ask you, once again, to be a

10   man or a woman of integrity and receive one per

11   company.   All right?   The amendments will be issued

12   along with all the revisions.

13              In terms of the transcript, she's going to

14   get them to me as soon as possible and the sooner

15   she gets it to me, which is all right with me, I'll

16   issue it out.

17              Thank you all so very much.    Appreciate

18   it.   And this pre-bid conference has now concluded.

19                        (12:26 p.m. - Adjournment.)

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                           ) ss.

 4            I, Brianne L. Starkey, RPR, CRR, General

 5   Notary Public within and for the State of Nebraska,

 6   do hereby certify that the foregoing proceedings

 7   were taken by me in shorthand and thereafter reduced

 8   to typewriting by use of Computer-Aided

 9   Transcription, and the foregoing fifty-three (53)

10   pages contain a full, true and correct transcription

11   of all the proceedings to the best of my ability;

12            That I am not a kin or in any way

13   associated with any of the parties to said

14   proceedings, and that I am not interested in the

15   event thereof.

16            IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I hereunto affix my

17   signature and seal this 12th day of April, 2012.


19                       ________________________________
                         BRIANNE L. STARKEY, RPR, CRR
20                       GENERAL NOTARY PUBLIC


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