UW-River Falls Chancellors Veterans Task Force by mifei

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									REPORT
UW-River Falls Chancellor’s Committee On Veterans Affairs

January 2009

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Rick Bowen, Mark Kinders, Sandy Ellis, Tabb Benzinger, Brad Caskey, Nan Jordahl, Gregg Heinselman, Ryan Bench, Dave Till, Jennifer Herink, Eduardo Figi, James Lauek, Director, Athletics, Chair Advisor, Veterans Club Professor of Journalism Director, Military Science and Leadership Interim Dean, College of Arts and Sciences Assistant Vice Chancellor Associate Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs Advisor, Financial Assistance Director, Pierce County Veterans Services Career/Counseling/Health Services Student Student

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Committee Charge: Dr. Connie Foster, Interim Chancellor, UW-River Falls 1. Review the university’s ability across the institution to meet the special needs of students who are veterans. 2. Conduct this review in the context of state and national policies and trends. 3. Produce a report that summarizes current programs, services, policies and procedures regarding veterans on campus. Analyze the strengths and weaknesses of those services, and make specific recommendations for improving those services.

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Veterans Programs at UW-River Falls
Veterans rely on the following sources of information and support on campus:     Pierce County and St Croix County Veterans Services has a director working with campus veterans. The Office of Financial Assistance has a part time advisor trained in veterans’ issues and needs. The campus has an active Veterans Club offering individual support to veteran members. The campus ROTC office, under the command of Major Tabb Benzinger, offers information and support. The new GI Bill is expected to result in an influx of veterans in the next 18 to 24 months. Current campus services, though well intended and staffed with dedicated individuals, are inadequate. They will NOT be able to handle the anticipated increase in the number of student veterans. The more the committee examined current veterans issues and programs, the more weaknesses it found. The committee sought input from campus veterans in two ways: 1. Veterans met with committee members to discuss their concerns and needs in public “listening sessions.” 2. A campus-wide survey was distributed to veterans via the university’s D2L learning software. (See Appendix)

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Task Force Recommendations 1. A full-time Veterans Affairs Coordinator for student veterans must be hired. The success of every succeeding recommendation or program will depend on this individual. The coordinator would be responsible for: a. Helping veterans navigate through federal and state veterans issues and regulations and “red tape”. b. Helping veterans with national and state benefits and the GI Bill c. Creating and coordinating partnerships with local, state and national veterans offices. 2. The UW-River Falls Office of Counseling and Student Health needs a staff counselor trained in veterans’ issues. This may not require a new hire. However, it is expected that a current staff member would require additional training. It is imperative that this qualified individual work closely with the UWRF Veterans Affairs Coordinator as Counseling and Student Health is viewed as an important contact in guiding veterans to the proper sources of assistance. 3. Establish a new policy covering deployment of currently enrolled students who are called up at mid semester. Thirty-six UW-River Falls students were deployed during the Fall 2008 semester resulting in the following pressing issues: a. How can deployed students withdraw from their classes with no penalty? b. Identify ways for deployed students to complete their classes online or on a delayed (incomplete) basis. c. Allow drops with no penalty if deployment makes it difficult or impossible to finish classes in a timely manner. d. Progress toward degree status must be reviewed when deployed. I’m not sure what you mean on this one. 4. Develop and/or expand distance-learning courses for newly deployed veterans, 5. When a student is deployed, the university should have an exit process ensuring those veterans are aware of services and support available from the university. 6. Provide the Academic Success Center staff with training for dealing with veterans. Encourage ASC to develop offering specifically for veterans. 7. Provide Public Safety with training regarding veterans’ issues.

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8. Provide Residence Life staff with training regarding veterans’ issues. Require development of a plan for dealing with veterans. 9. Provide and encourage faculty training to handle special needs and issues of veterans. 10. Identify selected faculty mentors to seek out veterans during the first week of each semester and serve as individual support. . 11. Appoint a standing administrative committee to regularly review veterans’ services and issues on campus. It should include representatives from: a. b. c. d. e. f. Financial Assistance Registrars Office Student Health and Counseling Faculty (appointed by Faculty Senate) Academic Support Residence Life

12. Update UWRF home web page with an obvious link to a UWRF Veterans web site. That site should provide easily accessible information and links for veterans. 13. Establish a veterans-only orientation program for both freshmen and transfer students. 14. Establish a procedure and encourage academic departments to grant credits for experience and military duties that duplicate course material. For example: giving credit to a military medic for a first aid course, or a military journalist for a beginning journalism course.

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UW-River Falls Veterans Issue Survey
The committee created an on-line survey to solicit a variety of information. The 42 responses from student veterans provided valuable insights. While the complete survey results are available in the appendix, the following are representative comments from the survey. Respondents identified a number of challenges they face as college students at UWRF. Some open-ended responses were shortened for clarity. Question 17 Would a full time Veterans Services officer on campus be beneficial to you? Yes 31 (73.81 %) No 11 (26.19 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 18 What are the biggest challenges you face in pursuing your education at UWRF?  The hardest part about going here is actually receiving VA education benefits…The system is so complicated that they make it easier to drop out of school than to receive benefits. Which is what I mostly did last semester going from 15 credits to 6. I suspect that that many veterans are forced to make that choice as well. … it would be really nice if at the beginning of the year, the VA office on campus would post their hours, and keep them at the beginning of the year, there are a lot of people that need to start getting their benefits, and many cannot wait any longer than necessary. …I would like to say is that I am so grateful that the state of Wisconsin is paying my tuition to go here. If they weren't I would have no idea how I would pay for school, and that is the only program that I have found that actually works smoothly. We need a full time Veteran Officer at the office because sometimes when I need some forms filled out or verified, .no one is there. The biggest problem is graduating on time. Is there anyway way that deploying students can take their required classes online while they are deploying and still graduate on time? I have been attending school for 5 years trying to finish my degree. I am getting mobilized for the 2nd time. When I come back, I will be here for another 2 years before I graduate. I was looking at some online courses but none were offer for my major (TESOL)...could we work something out with the school, professors, or somebody that deploying students could be allowed to take required classes online? TESOL didn't offer any classes online...furthermore, they only have classes every other semester, therefore pushing my graduation date back 2 years.

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The biggest trouble is not being able to take the classes I need to graduate online while being deployed. Most of the issues I have relate to quality of life and peer community. It can be difficult the first year to learn how things are done on campus. Orientation and student life in general is geared toward freshman that is just leaving home for the first time. I'd like to see an orientation that is designed to serve veterans and maybe even non-traditional students better. A big issue I've faced at UWRF is getting credit for course and jobs that were done while serving in the….Everything from overseas Construction Management on multimillion dollar federal projects etc. etc. etc. I achieved a 9502 teaching certificate. Sadly little of this has been recognized by UWRF for credit. The SMART (Sailor/Marine American Council on Education Registry Transcript.) Is designed to give Sailors and marines credit for courses that did while in the military. The biggest challenge I face is I am being deployed in Feb 2009 and I have had to miss 3 weeks of class due to military training, which has made it difficult to complete all the tasks for each class. I approached each teacher in a very professional manner and talked to them about my situation and 2 of the professors have been very understanding and easy to work with but one professor has been more of a challenge to work with….The university should have a clear guideline for students and teachers to work together better when tough situations like this come up. The hardest thing has been the transition from civilian life in high school, to the army for 5 years, and then back into school again. Dealing with reserve tuition assistance is probably the most difficult thing to stay on top of. I'm sure there are counseling services available here, but I’m not very aware of them or how they might apply to me. Balancing work and school. The biggest challenge that I face in pursuing my education at UWRF is not being able to relate to other students. It is hard to relate to a traditional student's views after seeing the world in such a different light.

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Respondents provided a number of suggestions. Some answers were shortened for clarity. Question 19 What can the university do to help with these challenges?   It would help if military experience counted towards a degree besides the physical education waiver. Just be understanding of the issues that returning veterans are dealing with. There are a lot of things that we need to get used to again after returning from Iraq. It is so frustrating returning and hearing over and over that you will be taken care of, and when you ask for those services you are left on your own. The university does a pretty good job of helping veterans, and I ask nothing more of them. The VA office and Financial Aid office could be more professional though. Have a meeting with all the facility members that have students going over seas or coming back….open line of communication We need the ability to take or finish more classes online while they deployed? For example, a regular English class that is not usually offered online, however the professors put up all the assignments and readings and all other work on D2L and the deploying student will be able to participate while overseas? The deployed student will still need to submit everything on time just as the students in the class.... Can we do that? Would it work? Just like an online course. Except the student is overseas and not sitting in the classroom with the other students... I just want to take my required classes to graduate...but they are not offered online! I think the biggest thing the university can do is to make students aware of the fact that there are veterans on campus. Professors should also be tuned in when they have a veteran in their class. Veterans are sometimes isolated as non-traditional students. It would be nice if there were a full time veteran officer… Set a precedent on what will be accepted for credit. Currently it seems that what will be accepted depends mostly on who your advisor is and what program you are in. I've had veteran friends tell me they were waived in many courses such as global prospectives and humanities yet with 10 years of traveling abroad, teaching, living within other cultures first hand doing humanitarian missions such as building a school in Honduras with 28 other Seabees I can't get a single credit.

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A greater variety in night classes would be beneficial to a wide number of students--especially non-traditional students who have real lives to maintain and financial responsibilities to others. The campus needs to put pressure on Professors to keep politics separate from their curriculum, unless of course you are in a political science class.

Sandy suggested a summary statement from the committee. This needs some editing.
Summary: The committee goal was to develop a policy for UW-River Falls student veterans about to be deployed or those returning from deployment. We approached our charge with enthusiasm. As we met with veterans and heard their concerns, we became overwhelmingly convinced the current way of doing things much change. What policy we have is inconsistent, often unfair and does not address the unique problems facing student veterans about to be deployed, or those returning from deployment. We are appreciative of Interim Chancellor Dr. Connie Foster and the UW-System for recognizing the need for a policy. As a group we are honored to serve and do our part to make the transition the military to collegiate life as seamless as possible. We also would like to emphasize our willingness to continue our service in any way the Chancellor sees fit.

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Appendix Veterans Issue Survey
The survey was conducted the last two weeks of fall semester 2008. A list of 128 UWRF students who are veterans (or veterans’ dependents) was provided by Financial Assistance Adviser Ryan Bench. Those students were enrolled in D2l under the campus organization called Veterans Issues. An enrollment email explained the purpose of the new D2L group and requested that the recipients complete the survey. Detailed instructions for accessing and submitting the survey were provided. Two additional follow-up emails went out to the group reminding them of the December 15th deadline. Forty-two students completed the survey. The results of the surveys were compiled by the D2L software. They begin on the following page.

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Veterans Issues Survey Fall 2008
Question 1 Please identify your branch of the military. Army 25 (59.52 %) Navy 5 (11.9 %) Air Force 4 (9.52 %) Marine Corps 4 (9.52 %) Coast Guard 0 (0 %) Not applicable 4 (9.52 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 2 Are you a combat veteran? Yes 23 (54.76 %) No 19 (45.24 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 3 If you are a combat veteran, in which conflicts did you serve? Please check all that apply. Vietnam 0 (0 %) First Gulf War 1 (2.38 %) Afghanistan 3 (7.14 %) Iraq 19 (45.24 %) Other 0 (0 %) Not applicable 15 (35.71 %) Question 4 If you answered other to the previous question, please explain. Answers I will be deployed to Iraq spring 2009, and I've been in the Army National Guard for 4 years. Question 5 Are you a dependent of a veteran? Yes 8 (19.05 %) No 34 (80.95 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 6 Please select your age range. 25 or under 23 (54.76 %) 26-30 14 (33.33 %) 31-35 5 (11.9 %) 36-40 0 (0 %) 41-45 0 (0 %) 46-50 0 (0 %) 51-55 0 (0 %) Question 7 Which is your gender? Male 29 (69.05 %) Female 13 (30.95 %) Number of Responses: 42

Question 8 What is your race/ethnicity? Please select all that apply. Asian/Asian American/Pacific Islander 1 (2.38 %)

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Black/African American Latino/Hispanic Native American White 41 Other Decline to answer

0 (0 %) 0 (0 %) 0 (0 %) (97.62 %) 0 (0 %) 0 (0 %)

Question 9 What is your marital status? Married 14 (33.33 %) Not married 28 (66.67 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 10 How many children do you have? None 34 (80.95 %) 1 5 (11.9 %) 2 2 (4.76 %) 3 1 (2.38 %) 4 0 (0 %) 5 or more 0 (0 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 11 Which benefits are you receiving? Check all that apply. 1606 (Reserve) 4 (9.52 %) 1607 (REAP) 5 (11.9 %) 30 (Federal benefits) 16 (38.1 %) 31 (Federal benefits 4 (9.52 %) 35 (Federal benefits) 3 (7.14 %) WI GI Bill 19 (45.24 %) Veterans Educational Benefits 6 (14.29 %) WI National Guard benefits 7 (16.67 %) MN Tuition Reimbursement 3 (7.14 %) Question 12 Do you have a service related disability? Yes 15 (35.71 %) No 27 (64.29 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 13 Where do you live? On-campus 4 (9.52 %) Off-campus 38 (90.48 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 14 What is your employment status? Part time 21 (50 %) Full time 4 (9.52 %) Unemployed 17 (40.48 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 15 How many college credits have you accumulated? Freshman (0-29credits) 4 (9.52 %) Sophomore (30-59 credits) 6 (14.29 %) Junior (60-89 credits) 18 (42.86 %) Senior (90+credits) 13 (30.95 %) Graduate student 1 (2.38 %)

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Number of Responses: 42 Question 16 Which local veterans services have you used? Check all that apply. Veterans Services Office (319 North Hall) 33 (78.57 %) UWRF Certifying Official (at Financial Assistance office) 20 (47.62 %) UWRF Counseling Services 2 (4.76 %) Veterans Club 10 (23.81 %) Pierce County Veterans Services Office 9 (21.43 %) St. Croix County Veterans Services Office 8 (19.05 %) ROTC 7 (16.67 %) Question 17 Would a full time Veterans Services officer on campus be beneficial to you? Yes 31 (73.81 %) No 11 (26.19 %) Number of Responses: 42 Question 18 (unedited) What are the biggest challenges you face in pursuing your education at UWRF? The hardest part about going here is actually receiving VA education benefits. I currently have not received the proper amount of money from the VA. After 8 months of not getting paid whatsoever, I finally got a paid last month, and they got the amount wrong. The system is so complicated that they make it easier to drop out of school than to receive benefits. Which is what I mostly did last semester going from 15 credits to 6. I suspect that that many veterans are forced to make that choice as well. In my experience, anytime something is wrong with the paperwork within the VA system, their solution seems to be to stop payment all together until the veteran can no longer afford to pay their bills. If I have to get a job to pay my bills while I’m in school than tell me that that is what I have to do. Don't lie to me. I’m supposed to get Chapter 30 Benefits, It took nearly a year to get that straightened out to the point where I got paid. In that amount of time, if you own a house even a crappy one like mine, you have to drop out of school in order to pay the mortgage which is what I had to do last spring semester. Then when I went to apply for benefits this semester, the new guy that was processing them gave me a hard time about the paperwork I filled out because the question asked on the paperwork didn't adequately describe what I was receiving for benefits. I am under enough stress as it is trying to do well in my classes to have to take a bunch of crap from some person that doesn’t know anything about the broken paperwork system that is run by the military or VA. All I ask for is a little understanding from the Financial Aid office. Also, it would be really nice if at the beginning of the year, the VA office on campus would post their hours, and keep them at the beginning of the year, there are a lot of people that need to start getting their benefits, and many cannot wait any longer than necessary. One more thing I would like to say is that I am so grateful that the state of Wisconsin is paying my tuition to go here. If they weren't I would have no idea how I would pay for school, and that is the only program that I have found that actually works smoothly. Balancing ROTC, National Guard requirements, and my education to achieve a degree. The biggest challenge I face is I am being deployed in February 2009 and I have had to miss 3 weeks of classes due to military training, which has made it difficult to complete all the tasks for each class. I approached each teacher in a very professional manner and talked to them about my situation and 2 of the professors have been very understanding and easy to work with but one professor has been more of a challenge to work with and in one conversation this professor was unprofessional and other students that We need a full time Veteran Officer at the office because sometimes when I need some forms filled out or verified..no one is there. The biggest problem is graduating on time. Is there anyway way that deploying students can take there required classes online while they are deploying? And still graduate on time? I have been attending school for 5 years trying to finish my degree. I am getting mobilized for the 2nd time. When I come back, I will be here for another 2 years before I graduate. I was looking at some online courses but none were offer for my major (TESOL)....could we

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work something out with the school, professors, or somebody that deploying students could be allowed to take required classes online? TESOL didn't offer any classes online...furthermore, they only have classes every other semester, therefore pushing my graduation date back 2 years. Or maybe nothing could be done about this. The biggest trouble is. not being able to take the classes I need to graduate online while being deployed. Could this be worked out somehow? The only challenge i have at river falls is this semester i had to start 4 weeks late due to training i had this summer and into the fall and it has been a challenge to catch up in my classes Most of the issues I have relate to quality of life and peer community. It can be difficult the first year to learn how things are done on campus. Orientation and student life in general is geared toward freshmen that are just leaving home for the first time. I'd like to see an orientation that is designed to serve veterans and maybe even nontraditional students better. A big issue I've faced at UWRF is getting credit for course and jobs that were done while serving in the military. In the military I've done alot in my 10 year time. Everything from overseas Construction Management on multimillion-dollar federal projects to Training and Education at the Naval Construction Training Center in Port Hueneme Ca where I achieved a 9502 teaching certificate. Sadly little of this has been recognized by UWRF for credit. The SMART (Sailor/Marine American Council on Education Registry Transcript.) Is designed to give Sailors and marines credit for courses that did while in the military. If UWRF wants to attract veterans to the school they need to follow the standards more closely and give credit where the American Council on Education (ACE) suggests it. challenge to work with and in one conversation this professor was unprofessional and other students that witnessed the conversation agreed with this statement. I think in the future the university should have a clearer guideline for students and teachers to work together better when tough situations like this come up. My situation was also more complex because I am married and have a son and i work a part-time job along with being in the military to help provide for my family. Just general studying. The current Veteran's Office does an outstanding job helping me, and I will use the office for more help in the future. I do use study help, and should be able to graduate, eventually. Just life in general filing the paperwork, making sure that everything is squared away to get paid and tuition paid. Transition into the civilian work force upon receiving my degree. The severe lack of computer science classes offered by the university. Some of the biggest challenges of being in the military and pursuing my education are deployment, because I am planning that, and trying to study for finals and everything that goes along with that. Balancing work and school. Providing a sustainable income for my wife and I so that it is possible for us to go to school. Being a non-traditional student and balancing work school and family. Dealing with young immature Students getting good grades The hardest thing has been the transition from civilian life in high school, to the army for 5 years, and then back into school again. The army does not make use of intelligent people and thusly, all accumulated knowledge is wasted away during service. Having to work and go to school at the same time, driving to and from school, not knowing what I want to do in life yet. I don't mind (sometimes I rather enjoy) talking about my experiences in the service and in combat, but sometimes being the ONLY one in the room makes me feel like I’m flaunting it, when that was never my Intent. I’m sure there are counseling services available here, but I’m not very aware of them or how they might apply to me. Example: I was trying to get a psychiatric evaluation done for the army here in town. I went to counseling services, who referred me to a local psychologist. The locally doctor told me that he was uncomfortable doing the evaluation because he was unfamiliar with the documentation from the army. I thanked him for his time and will now have it done at the VA in Minneapolis. I'm not mad about this, but it would have been really nice to be able to have it done here in River Falls. The gentleman in the financial aid office that handles the certifications is not very good at his job and I think some changes need to be made in that department. I have been up there every semester trying to figure out how much I

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will receive in financial aid so I can plan ahead financially. They tell me a number and at the lest minute the amount changes for some reason. Another issue I have with them is that I gave them a letter requesting my WI Gi Bill be shut off; I did this so I can save those credits for graduate school. They said that wouldn’t be a problem, well they didn’t and they’re going to get another visit from me next semester and I'm not going to be as nice as before. If the guy can’t do his job than he shouldn’t be working there. The biggest challenge that I face in pursuing my education at UWRF is not being able to relate to other students. It is hard to relate to a traditional student's views after seeing the world in such a different light. My opinions are very different from most students, and sometimes it is isolating. You either learn to keep your opinions and comments to yourself or deal with having a radical opinion. The biggest challenge I've come across is transitioning to being a civilian and a full time student. I had a hard time going from active duty with a guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th of every month to having to live on a much smaller budget. There are a lot of people who don't understand and can't relate to what I've done and gone through having been in the military and deploying. I've found it to be a bit challenging to make friends due to the differences (age, maturity, experiences, etc.). As time has gone on (over a year that I've been at UWRF), things have gotten better. I'm used to leaving every 6 months for 4 or 5 months at a time, going all over the world. Things are kind of stagnant being in the same place, doing the same thing day in and day out. I'd be lying if I didn't say it sucks. Juggling full time work and classes. Finding topics meaningful and relevant in comparison to duties performed in the service. The Liberal Professors that like to voice their opinions about the current conflicts, which have nothing to do with my English class. Thanks 1. Financial (finding work is tough in this college town) 2. Graduated High school 10 years ago 3. Overcoming my age Number of Responses: 35 Question 19 (unedited) What can the university do to help with these challenges? I don' t know how this problem could be solved since there are so many rules and regulations. Would it Be possible to let deploying students take classes that are not offered as distant learning (online).... and let the students take them online while they are deployed? For example, a regular English class that is not usually offered online. However the professors put up all the assignments and readings and all other work on D2L and the deploying student will be able to participate while overseas? The deployed student will still need to submit everything on time just as the students in the class....can we do that? Would it work? Just like an online course. Except the student is overseas and not sitting in the classroom with the other students... I just want to take my required classes to graduate...but they are not offered online! At this time I really do not have any challenges. Being confused as a teacher rather than a student. I don't face any significant challenges that are related to being a veteran. Cost of parking in the metered lots, coming out of the military I have accumulated a bit of debit. So for me to work as much as I do it is extremely hard to find time for school, studding and homework. Even though the government is paying for school its not enough.

Readjusting to school life after being out of a classroom for so long.
It would help if military experience counted towards a degree besides the physical education waiver. Just be understanding of the issues that returning veterans are dealing with. There are a lot of things that we need to get used to again after returning from Iraq. It is so frustrating returning and hearing over and over that you will be taken care of, and when you ask for those services you are left on your own. Some of that frustration may be taken out on you people, and it isn't meant to. The university does a pretty good job of helping veterans, and I ask nothing more of them. The VA office and Financial Aid office could be more professional though.

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Have a meeting with all the facility members that have students going over seas or coming back and have the students there so an open line of communication can be set and specific guidelines can be made to accommodate the students and still meet most of the requirement for the class to pass and so both sides will be satisfied with the results. Have the Dean of students run the meeting or other higher up interested uwrf facility. Right now I am just working with my professors in trying to complete all the missed work and catch back up in classes Most likely nothing unless they have the ability to make all military education free. I think the biggest thing the university can do is to make students aware of the fact that there are Veterans on campus. Professors should also be tuned in when they have a veteran in their class. Veterans are sometimes isolated as non-traditional students. I am also aware of a veteran that wore his uniform on Veteran's Day and had classes all day long. Going in and out of the classes, the professors did not even take a chance to make a small comment to this person about Veteran's Day. As humble as he is, he didn't mind. But as a veteran myself, I was outraged. I think it is sad when it is the one-day to honor those who have served, and the professors cannot even take a second to care about their veteran students. Veterans do not necessarily need recognition and fame, but I do think the least someone can do is say thank youespecially on Veteran's Day and when someone is wearing a uniform. This is a day when people should step back and forget about their political views about the war or presence in Iraq/Afghanistan and respect the men and women that have answered the call of duty. It would be nice to have professors that respect their UWRF Veterans. The University has done plenty to help me. Offer more class sections for required classes It would be nice if there was a full time veteran officer that could help connect us with job searches or fairs in the area, especially those that are exceptionally interested in previous service members. I know a LOT of companies prefer to give jobs to service members. Actually offer classes that are in the catalog and spend more money in the department. Technology is our future, so why not use this to persuade students into the university. It would be helpful if there was somebody in the veterans office when its open office hours. Set a precedent on what will be accepted for credit. Currently it seems that what will be accepted depends mostly on who your advisor is and what program you are in. I've had veteran friends tell me they were waived in many courses such as global prospective and humanities yet with 10 years of traveling abroad, teaching, living within other cultures first hand doing humanitarian missions such as building a school in Honduras with 28 other Seabees I can't get a single credit. For people who work during the day, it is nearly impossible to attend class on this campus. A greater variety in night classes would be beneficial to a wide number of students--especially non-traditional students who have real lives to maintain and financial responsibilities to others. I think the Veterans Club is a good way to meet fellow veterans and other individuals involved in the military. I can honestly say I haven't had time to attend any club meetings or get involved due to other club commitments and my class schedule this semester. I don't know what else could be done to help with the challenges, but I haven't really thought about it until now either. If I think of something I'll pass it on in the future. I think for classes that deal with politics and other classes that may relate to the present conflict we are in, I think it would be a good idea to have the students in those classes talk to the veterans to get a different perspective than that which is portrayed in the news, movies, and other media outlets. More parking, better dorms, more times available for different classes. Add more night courses or online courses. Increase hands-on learning and relating topics to real-life issues. Go have a talk with them or find someone that can handle the task. I am unemployed and would be willing to take his position if need be. Number of Responses: 32 Increase hands-on learning and relating topics to real-life issues. Probably the best thing is to have one or two full-time veterans affairs officers here at UWRF. That way

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they could, at minimum, relay these issues to the university directly The campus needs to put pressure on Professors to keep politics separate from their curriculum, unless of course you are in a political science class. Probably not much. Let me know what programs are available to me, by mail or e-mail Allow veterans to have a lot to park in, Ramer is to far to walk with someone with my disabilities, but I don't fully rate a handicapped sticker. Most of us are older, and don't live on campus. Streets with parking are few and far between. Not sure this is an university issue. More of a government program change that I need to find. One that will not only pay for my schooling but also offer me some sort of monthly allowance to compensate for the time

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