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By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) report detailing Prime Minister Medvedev’s private
talks with other world leaders attending the World Economic Forum (WEF) talks in Davos
states that all of the attending Russian delegation were “chilled” when presented with the
“full agenda” President Barack Obama plans to unleash upon the American people, and which
includes “mass murder.”

Important to note about this report, and as we had previously reported on in our 10 November
2012 report Obama Topples Top Coup Leader After Washington Gunbattle, the Main
Intelligence Directorate (GRU) has become increasingly concerned over the Obama regimes
militarization of the United States, most especially since his early January orders to begin
deploying “death squads” throughout America who have killed two of that nations top gun
activists along with “suiciding” Aaron Swartz, one of world’s top computer geniuses opposed
to the US leaders “kill list.”
With Obama now having established “firm control” over the US military, this report
continues, the United States President has begun an unprecedented purge of all officers who
refuse to kill American citizens when ordered to do so.

The shocking claim made about Obama in this MFA report was confirmed this past week by
one of the world’s foremost philanthropists, and 2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee, Dr. Jim
Garrow, who on 21 January wrote on his Facebook page:

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new
“litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready
to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US
citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed.”

MFA intelligence analysts writing in this report state that Dr. Garrow’s “source” for this
information was “undoubtedly” the US Marine Corp legend General James Mattis who was
head of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM), but was ordered by Obama this past
week to vacate his offices immediately.
Pulitzer Prize winner and veteran US national security correspondent Thomas E. Ricks, on
writing about Obama’s ouster of General Mattis, added to Dr. Garrow’s warning to the
American people about the troubles to come by stating:

“I am at the point where I don’t trust his national security team. They strike me as
politicized, defensive and narrow. These are people who will not recognize it when they
screw up, and will treat as enemies anyone who tells them they are doing that. And that is
how things like Vietnam get repeated. Harsh words, I know. But I am worried.”

Equally worried, and as evidenced in this report, are Russian officials who speculate that
Obama may have already started a mass purge of US dissidents and is hiding their deaths
within the “false statistics” of what the Americans are calling a flu epidemic, but which
strangely appears to be only targeting Americans as this virus has yet to appear in any other
nation.

Where William Schaffner, chairman of the department of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt
University School of Medicine in Nashville, Tennessee estimates this “US only”flu epidemic
has killed at least 36,000 Americans so far, this report notes this number “grossly exceeds”
what one should expect from this virus.

Pointing to a more likely culprit in these mass American deaths, this MFA report says, is a
hidden viral gene recently discovered in genetically modified crops (GMO) (which Americans
consume more of than anyone one in the world) by the European Food Safety Authority
(EFSA). According to the EU scientists who discovered this hidden viral gene, its sole function
is “designed to disable their host in order to facilitate pathogen invasion.”




To if the Obama regime would result in the wholesale murder of human beings by secretly
infecting the US food supply with a viral gene designed to break down the defenses of all who
it infected appears to be so, and as evidenced by the highly Obama supportive publication
Salon.com who sent shockwaves throughout America this past week when they openly
advocated the taking of human life to further their agenda.

And to a nation such as America, this report says, where Obama is now creating “disposition
matrix” maps to carry out extrajudicial murders for years to come, and where his top law
enforcement officer, Attorney General Eric Holder, say their regime has the power to kill any
citizen they so choose without either charges or trial, MFA experts in this report warn that
the United States descent to barbarism is not yet to come, but is already a reality.

What remains most appalling in the United States, however, is its so-called “mainstream”
news media who continue their agenda of failing to inform the American people of the
holocaust being planned against them.

And with the most prestigious military institution in America, West Point, having just issued a
paper warning about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, who support
basic values like “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government,” now being
labeled by the Obama regime as “domestic terrorists,” one would surely have to be blind to
not see how near this holocaust truly is.
    Even worse, and as evidenced by one of America's best-known critics of the War on Terror,
    Dr. Kevin Barrett, even those most supportive of freedom now live in terror of the regime
    Obama has created, and as we can read as he recently wrote:

    “The problem with Obama’s kill list is that it is targeting good people (like Aaron Swartz)
    not bad people (like names deleted for reasons of National Security). The bad people are the
    ones running the kill list. They are the ones who should be (remainder of sentence deleted
    for reasons of National Security). So let me hereby state that I am not only an inveterate
    opponent of Obama’s kill list, I am so angry about it that I would support putting an end to it
    by any means, including (remainder of sentence deleted for reasons of National Security). So
    shoot me.”

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 The interview of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov to Euronews TV channel Moscow,
                                    December 19, 2012




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Question: What is the most important theme among those to be taken up at the Russia-EU summit,
in your opinion?

Sergey Lavrov: I think we have an arranged agenda in our relations with the EU. All key issues are
being looked into during the year. Main conclusions, reports on the state of each particular issue on
the Russia-EU agenda are submitted for summits, which are held twice a year.

Traditionally, the “backbone” of our cooperation has been the dialogue on energy. We have now
reached an advanced and confident phase of cooperation, which envelops various aspects of
European energy security. The both conduits of Nord Stream pipeline are already operational; it has
the potential for opening up supplementary ones. We have launched the construction of South
Stream. Lots of EU countries have already declared it as a project of national importance.
So we are moving steadily toward heightened energy security for the whole European continent.
Russian President V.V.Putin repeatedly said that we want the European Union, defining rules of the
game on its ground, to respect earlier obligations, agreements on Investment Protection, in
particular. The point is that if we implement Third Energy Package in retrospect (there were such
attempts), it will contradict directly with the obligation not to aggravate business conditions. Similar
obligations were undertaken by two-sided channels between Russia and the EU countries. They are
also present in the current Agreement between Russia and the European Union. We have concrete
proposals to the EU to realize its rights and at the same time not to damage, infringe current
agreements.

Question: So, the summit will focus mainly on economic questions, won't it?

Sergey Lavrov: We will also discuss what surrounds a new EU-Russia Framework Agreement,
which is a broader topic than the economic cooperation on its own. Following Russia's accession to
the World Trade Organization, particularly due to the EU's active support, we thought that issues
related to trade and investment regimes, which so far have hampered the signing of a new
framework agreement, would be quickly finalized in accordance with the decisions reached when our
country joined the WTO. Our partners demand more – "a WTO-plus" format or, in other words,
additional concessions on our part. We clearly state, this is unreal.

We are just adapting to the WTO obligations. We need to understand how the Russian business,
industries, agriculture, banking and other sectors will adjust to this situation. I hope that common
sense will prevail and we will be able to quickly sign the agreement. At the present stage, we cannot
proceed further than what has been arranged during the accession process. In the future, however, -
and President Putin has said this several times – we are ready to move towards a free trade zone
and more developed forms of integration.

The Russian President proposed the creation of a unified economic and human space from the
Atlantic to the Pacific. Talking about its human dimension, it is necessary to arrive as fast as
possible at the establishment of a visa-free regime. A year ago, a list of joint steps to be taken by
both parties was agreed, which included the provision of biometric passports to citizens planning to
travel, as well as an enhanced border control and the conclusion of readmission agreements. This
work is underway. We make visits to the EU States, and the President of the European Commission
comes to our country to study the progress with the implementation of the joint steps listed. I expect
that in the nearest future we will have the opportunity to report to each other that all the listed steps
have been accomplished, and will be able to sit down at the negotiating table to work towards an
agreement on the abolition of short-stay visas for the citizens.

Another very promising field is foreign policy cooperation, first of all in crisis management. There are
draft documents that could provide a legal framework for our interaction, including in peacekeeping
operations. We already have such an experience. We worked together (with the EU) in the Balkans,
in Africa – in the Central African Republic and Chad. The anti-piracy operation “Atlanta” is being
carried out in coordination with similar actions of the Russian Navy. That will be the main content of
our interaction for a rather long period of time, as all these issues are long-lasting. I expect that the
progress will probably not be very fast, but fairly steady.
Question: Now the main international crisis is the Syrian one. Will the positions of the EU and
Russia change to some extent after the unification of the Syrian opposition and its recognition by
France and the USA?

Sergey Lavrov: At an early stage of this crisis our Western partners have clearly taken one side –
the side of the opposition. They declared that Bashar al-Assad has no place in this world and that he
has no legitimacy. They probably expected that the regime would fall quickly. Now many of them
acknowledge that this was not quite right. In my opinion, to deny legitimacy to the regime at the initial
stage of the crisis was a mistake. Now the position requiring both parties to immediately halt
violence and start negotiations without preconditions looks more realistic.

This has been our position from the very beginning. We are consistently working with the regime and
all the opposition groups without exception. We are telling them the same thing:”You have to think of
your people, of your country. You should agree on a ceasefire. Sit down at the negotiating table,
name the delegates who will conduct the talks. Come to an agreement on what transition
mechanism your State needs to get from a former system to something new, more democratic and
open.” This approach was accorded on 30 June this year in Geneva at the Action Group meeting.
Russia strictly complies with its commitments recorded in the communiqué that was adopted at that
meeting: make all Syrian Parties cease fire, name the delegates who will conduct the talks, and
agree on transition period mechanisms. These are the ideas that have been included by consensus
into the Geneva Communiqué and that we are quite persistently bringing to the government of Syria
and all the opposition groups. Our Western partners, sadly, do not comply with their Geneva
commitments and count exclusively on victory of the opposition, telling us that if Bashar al-Assad left
then the negotiations could begin.

One shall opt for priorities. If your priority is to save lives then you should make the Syrian Parties sit
at the table of negotiations without preliminary conditions. If your priority is to overthrow Bashar al-
Assad, you have to understand that it is going to take some more time, entailing a significant number
of new victims among ordinary Syrians. The attempts to mix things up and put it as if Russia only
needed to say the word and Bashar al-Assad would leave immediately are pure provocation, a
wrongful one. Everybody is perfectly aware that it does not only depend on us.

Question: Do you admit that there is a possibility that the opposition wins and Bashar al-Assad
leaves?

Sergey Lavrov: There won’t be any winners in this war. There is a war of mutual destruction going
on. Horrible things are happening now inside and around the Palestinian refugee camps. They are
trying to drag the Palestinians into this internal war. They are split. Some of them support the
regime, and others support the opposition, different opposition groups. This whirlpool is swallowing
deeper and deeper new population groups, now including the Palestinians. There won’t be any
winners in this war, and I think that everyone understands that perfectly. But having said that there
won’t be any talks with Assad, people put themselves in a trap and they do not know how to get out
of it. History knows what war of attrition is. Nothing good ever came out of one.

Question: Is Russia ready to recognize the united Syrian opposition?
Sergey Lavrov: We don’t need to recognize anybody. We are working with all the parties
representing various groups of the Syrian opposition without exception. We are prepared to work
with the National Coalition or any other structure that the opposition may form in this political “field”.
The important thing is not to give recognition, but to “push” everyone in the same direction. And if
this or that group is recognized only to be bet on – with money, arms, or moral and political support –
this would be an interference in the conflict taking side of one of the groups. That is it.

Question: Another current topic that is probably souring Russia’s relations with its western partners:
the adoption of the Magnitsky Act by the US Congress. The State Duma is now debating how to
respond. Has the Foreign Ministry been consulted in this regard?

Sergey Lavrov: Everybody has surely heard of this problem. It is one of the most popular topics in
mass media these days. I think that what the US Congress did was absolutely unnecessary and
counter-productive. Any country, as it has been emphasized repeatedly, has the right – and can use
this right – to ban another country’s national from entering its territory without giving any reason for
it. And when this situation was turned into “a Capitol Hill show”, it seemed to me that there was
something else behind it rather than the desire to uncover the truth. Let alone the fact that trying to
uncover the truth in a case being considered by another country’s court when the proceedings have
not yet been finished and the sentence has not been given, is rather arrogant.

However, the Americans got used to it. They like to give advice to others, it is especially
characteristic of a number of congressmen, including the initiators of the Magnitsky law. I consider it
absolutely normal that our parliamentarians adopt measures in response and do not follow the
principle that “we will also find an unresolved problem, an unfinished judicial process and will
interfere in your internal affairs”. They respond to the concrete facts on which the American justice
has already ruled. For example, the facts of acquittal or suspended sentence with granting of bail to
American citizens who killed, raped or tortured children adopted from Russia. The hearings have
already taken place; the given sentences are outrageously mild. If we compare them with the
sentences to American parents who anyway gave the wrong education to their own children we
reveal at once “double standards”.

We propose to include also in our list the persons who were involved in illegal kidnapping of Russian
citizens, including V.A. Bout and K.V. Yaroshenko in Thailand and Liberia who violated the laws of
these countries, the rights of Russian citizens who had to serve a heavy term of imprisonment just
for their intention. Let’s compare this with the sentences given to the killers of our children: a person
who has committed real crimes is given a suspended sentence and is granted a bail.

Question: Does it mean that the right of American families to adopt Russian children must be
banned outright, especially as the members of Parliament are now interpreting the law more broadly
for many countries?

Sergey Lavrov: I do not think we should ban the adoption of Russian children by American families.
We were ready to consider seriously this measure at the stage when we could not conclude with the
Americans the Agreement on cooperation in the field of international adoption. In fact, at that time
our children were not protected at all, we did not even have the possibility to see them through our
diplomatic mission in the USA. Together with Pavel Astakhov, the Children's Rights Commissioner
for the President of the Russian Federation, we seriously considered the possibility of asking our
competent authorities to “freeze” adoption by American families until such agreement is signed.
However, today it is signed and has entered into force. So far, the Agreement has not been tested
by time and tried in specific cases. In particular, Maxim Babaev, who has been adopted by American
parents, live in Florida. The parents have been deprived of parental rights. The boy is temporarily in
the custodial family. But we do not have consular access to him, though it is guaranteed by the
Agreement signed with the USA, which entered in to force this autumn.

It is the responsibility of the US State Department to provide us with such access. If we stop
adoption, it would mean only one thing – that we have to denounce this Agreement. If we do that, we
will have no legal opportunity to demand access to our children. This is one of the reasons not to go
too far in our response.

Question: What will be Russia’s response if one or several EU countries join the Magnitsky Bill?
Cyprus launched an investigation against several banks in connection with the alleged money
laundering by Russian officials.

Sergey Lavrov: Unfortunately, money is still laundered, and not only by Russian citizens – there
have been cases with involvement of some European States. This is something that we all want to
eradicate. Relevant conventions for Russia and all EU States have entered into force. But so far, this
phenomenon has not been fully eradicated.

I do not think that there is a legal possibility of European countries joining the Magnitsky Bill. I hear
that the European Parliament is discussing the possibility of duplicating it, rubber-stamping the
document adopted in the Capitol and making it a decision of the European Parliament. If a tendency
to follow the “big brother’s” example prevails, it will be sad, because such scenario will not provide
substantial contribution to settling the issues which raise concern of the Europeans with regard to
Russia and of the Russian citizens with regard to Europe.

We are engaged in a human rights dialogue in which we tell each other like partners what we would
like to change in our relations, what we would like to see in our countries with regard to respect for
and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms of our citizens. This is a good form of
cooperation and we should keep using it. Russia maintains the human rights dialogue both with the
EU and the USA – a civil society working group is functioning under the US – Russia Presidential
Commission. To make the dialogue more transparent the State Duma, with participation of the
Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, conducted hearings on human rights practices in the European
Union and in the USA. Conclusions made at hearings on the EU were summarized in an appropriate
report which was circulated among the European Union member countries in the run-up to the EU –
Russia Summit. It is not aggressive, but contains facts. Having reviewed the report, our interlocutors
from Brussels and other European capitals admitted that the document is based on specific data and
proves our mutual interest to solve the issues which are really affecting people’s lives in the vast
Euro-Atlantic and Eurasian space.

We are greatly concerned about the situation of national minorities, in particular Russian-speaking
ones, in Estonia and Latvia and about the shameful phenomenon of non-citizenship. For Europe
which is the cradle of Christian civilization this is awful. All the more so because these people have
identity cards where “alien” is written under “nationality”. I have no idea how one can put up with it.
There are numerous recommendations of the Council of Europe, OSCE and UN Committee on the
Elimination of Racial Discrimination urging to at least make first steps as soon as possible and start
to grant automatic citizenship to newly born children in the non-citizens’ families and to elderly
people, taking into account the fact that they are not likely to master the language to the level
required by a rather rigid law. Unfortunately, there are no advances in this area. We discuss this
issue with our Estonian and Latvian colleagues on a regular basis.

We are obviously concerned about the permissiveness regarding Nazism glorification, attempts to
rewrite history, to put executioners and liberators on the same level and treat them in the same way
or even discriminate against veterans who liberated Europe. This is not a secret, and we can see it
not only in Estonia and Latvia but in a number of European countries as well, Nazi marches in which
are getting alarming.

The situation of immigrants in Europe is another issue that has to be discussed and on which we can
exchange information, experience and opinions to our mutual benefit. I would chose this path and
not the one that makes it possible to get noticed by the public and voters – look at me, how tough I
am, how recklessly I can slash at Russia. Why? A frank and constructive dialogue is preferable. As
in the case of Syria, it is necessary to choose priorities – either to save lives or to overthrow the
regime. It is the same here.

If the goal is to achieve specific improvements in the human rights field, then let’s work calmly,
specifically, without noise. If the objective is to make noise in public, then just say so – say that you
want to make noise but do not want to achieve results. It is impossible to expect that we can force
obedience and make someone say: we are sorry; now that you have scolded us we understand that
we were wrong and we will behave in future. This is human nature and everyone understands it
perfectly well. Those who make noise probably had this objective in mind as well.

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November 10, 2012

Obama Topples Top Coup Leader After Washington
Gunbattle
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
The Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) is reporting today that President Barack Obama has
                                        accelerated the purge of US Military officers involved
                                        in a coup against his regime by the “firing in
                                        disgrace” of former Four-Star Army General and
                                        current Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
                                        (CIA) David Petraeus [photo 2nd left] yesterday.

                                         According to this report, after his refusal to meet at the
                                         White House with Obama this past week, US Federal
                                         Forces loyal to the President stopped General
                                         Petraeus’ vehicle in DuPont Circle in Washington
                                         D.C. yesterday (Friday) morning whereupon a short
                                         gun battle ensued (Washington D.C. police are
                                         reporting this incident as an attempted robbery).
                                         General Petraeus was, then, apprehended, brought
                                         before Obama and forced to resign in disgrace over his
                                         supposedly admitting to an extramarital affair.

                                         General Petraeus’s toppling follows similar attacks by
                                         the Obama regime in the past 3 weeks that has seen the
                                         unprecedented ouster of many top US Military leaders
                                         including Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette, US
                                         Army General Carter Ham, Brigadier General Jeffery
                                         A. Sinclair, and US Navy Commander Joseph E.
                                         Darlak, all of whom we had previously reported on in
                                         our reports “Obama Coup Plot Slams Into Russia”
                                         and “Obama Fires Top Admiral As Coup Plot
                                         Fears Grows.”

                                         GRU analysts in this report say that Obama’s moves
                                         against his rebellious military most closely resembles
                                         those actions taken by President Franklin Roosevelt in
                                         1933 against those involved in what is now referred to
                                         as “The Business Plot” engineered by wealthy
                                         American businessmen who were plotting to create a
                                         fascist veterans' organization and use it in a coup d'état
                                         to overthrow the US government.

                                         Under great pressure to jail and charge with treason
                                         many top US Military officers after the failed 1933
                                         coup attempt, this report says, Roosevelt, instead,
                                         opted to simply oust those Generals and other high-
                                         ranking officers in order to spare his country the
                                         turmoil such a revelation would cause among the
                                         American people.
Most ominous, however, in this report is it, likewise, comparing Obama’s ouster of General
Petraeus to the 1961 firing of CIA Director Allen Dulles (1893-1969) by President John F.
Kennedy (1917-1963). Though never proven, it is believed by many that Dulles ordered the
assassination of Kennedy after a cryptic assassination directive was found in a leaked document
in 2009, and in what can only be termed as ironic, Dulles was a central member of the Warren
Commission investigation into Kennedy’s assassination that blamed this shocking murder on a
“lone gunman.”

Unbeknownst to General Petraeus, or the other coup-plotters, this report continues, Obama had
ordered the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to begin conducting covert human and
electronic surveillance against hundreds of US Military officers when this coup plot was
discovered.

The coups “master plan”, this GRU report says, was for US Republican Presidential nominee
Mitt Romney to be assassinated just prior to the 6 November election whereupon General
Petraeus would become the Republican candidate under their party’s rules allowing him to be put
into Romney’s place by a majority of State Representatives as allowed under RNC party rules.

If such a scenario were allowed to occur, this report continues, General Petraeus would have
most certainly became the next President of The United States due to his unprecedented
popularity with the American people.

Important to note is that the only US mainstream media outlet attempting to report on this coup
attempt was the magazine GQ, who in an article this past week, written by Marc Ambinder,
detailed the massive security forces ordered by Obama to be put around both himself and
Romney during the final weeks of the election and the many assassination attempts that were,
likewise, foiled.

Unfortunately for Ambinder, however, are the many attacks he is currently undergoing for his
daring to “lift the lid” on these coup plots and the pressure he’s under to release the sources for
his information. In a response to these attacks against him via Twitter about his sources
Ambinder cryptically stated, “There was that guy who shot at the White House from across the
ellipse, and then the soldiers arrested for plotting the assassination of the president and others.”

This GRU report further states that Obama had his “hand forced” this week when General
Petraeus ordered the CIA to begin releasing information damaging to his regime, including a
timeline on the Benghazi Libya attack that conflicted with the White House, and previously kept
secret information on an American drone fired upon by Iran in the week prior to the election.

Should the true stories about either, or both, of these events been made known to the American
people prior to the election, this report says, Obama could have been defeated. However, due to
the complicity of the propaganda US media the full facts regarding them have yet to become
fully known.
General Petraeus’s main downfall, this report says, was due to emails obtained by the FBI
written by his loyal confidant and biographer Paula Broadwell [photo 2nd left] detailing “critical
elements” of this coup-plot.

Most important to note about the FBI’s obtaining of these emails, however, was that they were
not recovered from Broadwell, but were, instead, obtained from the Russian Defense Ministry,
and as we had previously reported on, and led to President Putin’s firing of Defense Minster
Anatoly Serdyukov this past week.

To the most important context surrounding this historic battle between an American President
and the US Military we had previously detailed in our 22 July report titled “Obama Plan To
Shatter “Permanent War Economy” Panics Global Elites”, and which the first move to do so
was made by Obama within hours of his winning his reelection when he notified the United
Nations that The United States would now back an international treaty to regulate the $70 billion
global conventional arms trade.

As Obama has now become only the second US President in over half a century, since Kennedy,
to battle against the American Military-Industrial-Complex, the outcome is far from certain, this
GRU report conclusion warns, as the US Military and their defense allies show no signs of
surrendering.

November 10, 2012 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety
is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com.
Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the
information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic
Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees
with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions
conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a
longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is
addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

You May Already Be To Late…But It Has Begun!

They Are Going To Come For You…Why Are You Helping Them?
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Obama Death Squads Fan Out Across America As
Rebellion Looms
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
                                          A grim Federal Security Forces (FSB) “urgent action”
                                          memorandum prepared for President Putin is warning
                                          that United States President Barack Obama has
                                          ordered at least 800 highly trained “death squad”
                                          units to disperse throughout his country in preparation
                                          for what Russian intelligence analysts are predicting to
                                          be a series of high-profile killings of dissident
                                          Americans set to begin as soon as February 22nd.

                                          According to this memo, Obama was emboldened to
                                          implement this murderous plan against his own
                                          citizens after this past weeks US Federal Court ruling
                                          granted his regime the right to kill, without trial or
                                          charges, any American he so chooses, and keep the
                                          reason(s) for doing so secret.

                                          Important to note about this shredding of the US
                                          Constitutional protections the American people once
                                          lived under was the disgusted wording used by United
                                          States District Court Judge Colleen McMahon who in
                                          handing down this frightening ruling, in part, said:

                                           “The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this
                                           pronouncement is not lost on me; but after careful
                                           consideration, I find myself stuck in a paradoxical
                                           situation in which I cannot solve a problem because of
                                           contradictory constraints and rules — a veritable
                                           Catch-22. I can find no way around the thicket of laws
                                           and precedents that effectively allow the Executive
                                           Branch of our Government to proclaim as perfectly
                                           lawful certain actions that seem on their face
                                           incompatible with our Constitution and laws, while
keeping the reason for their conclusion a secret.”

Equally important to note about the Obama regimes murderous plan, this memo continues, was a
likewise chilling ruling issued last month by United States Appeals Court Judge Raymond
Lohier that allows the American President to detain indefinitely any citizen he so chooses
without trial or charges, a move so grave and draconian it led to the Academy Award-winning
director Oliver Stone saying about Obama:

“I think under the disguise of sheep’s clothing he has been a wolf. That because of the nightmare
of the Bush presidency that preceded him, people forgave him a lot. He was a great hope for
change. The color of his skin, the upbringing, the internationalism, the globalism, seemed all
evident. And he is an intelligent man. He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them
into the establishment, he has codified them.
That is what is sad. So we are going into the second administration that is living outside the law
and does not respect the law and foundations of our system and he is a constitutional lawyer, you
know. Without the law, it is the law of the jungle. Nuremburg existed for a reason and there was
a reason to have trials, there is a reason for due process – ‘habeas corpus’ as they call it in the
United States.”

The excuse to be used by the Obama regime in order to begin their targeted killings of American
dissidents, FSB analysts say, is that these otherwise lawful citizens were not complying with the
new gun control laws Vice President Joseph Biden “guaranteed” Boston Mayor Thomas
Menino would be enacted by the end of January.

Critical to note is that Obama permanently solidified the enmity of the American gun-rights
supporters when, during the 2008 Presidential primary, he was recorded at a political fundraiser
saying of rural, working-class Americans, “So it's not surprising, then, that they get bitter and
they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy toward people who aren't like them, or anti-
immigrant sentiment, or, you know, anti-trade sentiment [as] a way to explain their
frustrations.”

Most interesting to note in this memo is its saying that the “master plan” Obama intends to use
in disarming his citizens has already been openly discussed and published by the highly
influential progressive American political blog Daily Kos, that is said does not repeat
Democratic “talking points,” it generates political talking points that later are found in
mainstream publications and from Democratic politicians themselves, and is now opening
advocating indiscriminate armed raids to be used as an “example” to frighten other citizens into
obeying their Washington D.C. masters who will order them all to disarm.

The “death squads” being deployed throughout the United States under Obama’s orders, this
memo continues, are frighteningly called VIPER teams, which is the acronym for Visible
Intermodal Prevention and Response Team, a programme run by the Transportation Security
Administration (TSA) and whose agents terrify millions of Americans with Nazi-like Gestapo
tactics on a daily basis at airports and who report to the Department of Homeland Security
(DHS).

So frightening have these TSA agents become that London’s Guardian News Service, this past
April, in their article titled “The TSA's Mission Creep is Making the US a Police State,”
warned that these Obama regime henchmen are spreading out across the entire United States in
order to control every aspect of American citizens life… “never in response to actual threats,
but apparently more in an attempt to live up to the inspirational motto displayed at the TSA's air
marshal training center since the agency's inception: “Dominate. Intimidate. Control.”

And to how these TSA VIPER Team “death squads” will “dominate, intimidate and control”
dissident Americans, this memo says, was made even more chillingly clear this past week when
the DHS ordered another 200,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition on top of the 1.6 billion
rounds of this internationally banned ammunition already secured by them over the last 9 months
alone. These nearly 2 billion rounds of ammunition stand in sharp contrast to US military forces
who use only 70 million rounds of ammunition per year in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Russian military analysts contributing to this memo further note that the Obama regimes saying
that these massive DHS ammunition purchases are for “practice and training purposes” is
“preposterous” as all firearms training done by military and/or police forces “always” use less
expensive rounds. Retired US Army Major General Jerry Curry, likewise, agreed with his
Russian counterparts when he stated that the Obama regimes “explanation about the bullets fails
to pass the smell test.”

Most ominous, perhaps, in this memo is its stating that the “exact” plan for the Obama regimes
disarming of its citizens appears to have been predicted by the famous martyred American
dissident William Cooper (1943-2001), who in his 1991 book “Behold A Pale Horse” wrote:

“The government encouraged the manufacture and importation of firearms for the criminals to
use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity, which would lead the American people to
voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Using drugs and hypnosis on
mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open
fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the anti-gun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far
is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd
Amendment.”

Cooper, who former President Bill Clinton once called “the most dangerous man in America,”
was gunned down by US authorities shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks which, in a
radio broadcast on 28 June 2001, he predicted an attack on America and stated that Osama Bin
Laden would be named as the primary scapegoat.

With the tragic events of the Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre still fresh in the
American peoples mind, combined with Obama’s new unlimited power to kill and detain any
American citizen he so desires, this memo concludes, the conditions for “wholesale rebellion” in
the United States is just “one spark” away from becoming a reality, and which these heavily
armed TSA VIPER Team “death squads” are sure to provide.

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with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions
conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a
longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is
addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

You May Already Be To Late…But It Has Begun!

They Are Going To Come For You…Why Are You Helping Them?
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1643.htm




January 9, 2013

Obama Death Squads Kill Top Gun Activists As New
Massacre Fears Rise
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
                                          A new Federal Security Forces (FSB) report updating
                                          their 4 January “urgent action” memorandum to
                                          President Putin circulating in the Kremlin, today,
                                          states that the “death squads” unleashed upon
                                          America by President Obama have claimed their first
                                          two victims and warns that “another massacre” in the
                                          United States is “much nearer than first believed.”

                                          As we had previously detailed in our 5 January report
                                          “Obama Death Squads Fan Out Across America As
                                          Rebellion Looms,” Obama, emboldened by recent US
                                          Federal Court rulings giving him absolute authority to
                                          kill anyone he chooses in secret, and for whatever
                                          reason he deems necessary, dispatched at least 800
                                          VIPER Teams (Visible Intermodal Prevention and
                                          Response Teams) throughout America in a bid to
                                          assassinate and neutralize any and all opposition to his
                                          planned seizure of his citizens guns.

                                          According to this chilling FSB report, the first two
                                          Obama “death squad” victims indentified by Russian
                                          intelligence sources were gun rights activists John
                                          Noveske [photo 2nd left] and Keith Ratliff [photo 3rd left],
                                          both of whom were hailed as supporters of the US
                                          Constitutions Second Amendment which grants
                                          Americans the right to bear arms.

                                          Western news sources confirming these assassinations
                                          report that Noveske was killed after a mysterious
                                          single car accident and that Ratliff was killed by a
                                          mysterious single gunshot to his head.

Noveske, this report continues, was the owner of Noveske Rifleworks, one the premier makers of
what are called assault-style weapons and equipment in the US, which have been specifically
targeted by the Obama regime for confiscation, and had made a recent FACEBOOK posting
linking psych drugs to school shooters.

Ratliff, this report says, was a business partner at FPSRussia (FPS-First Person Shooter),
YouTube's ninth most popular channel with more than three million active subscribers and a
combined half billion views, and sole owner of FPS Industries, which works in customized
weaponry and world leader in military technology.

The Obama regimes reason(s) for assassinating two such high profile weapons manufacturers
and gun rights activists, this report notes, is based upon the United States successful reign of
terror against top scientists, which between the dates of 2004-2012 have seen 119 of some of the
worlds leading researchers mysteriously murdered over US government fears of their reporting
the truths of what they’ve discovered.

By assassinating Noveske and Ratliff, FSB intelligence analysts in this report say, the Obama
regime is sending a “chilling message” to all who oppose their plan to totally disarm the
American people that they “will stop at nothing” to see their master plan implemented.

Even worse, this report warns, is “new evidence” coming from the United States that the Obama
regime is planning another “mass carnage” type event to occur within the next few weeks to
bolster their spurious claim that Americans need to be disarmed.

Following in the wake of the 14 December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre, top
FSB intelligence social psychologists state in this report, the Obama regime will undoubtedly be
able to achieve a critical mass of public opinion advocating for new draconian gun laws that will,
in essence, make criminals out of millions of otherwise law abiding American citizens.

Unfortunately for the Obama regime, this report says, and the reason for another “tragic event”
needing to happen, is that the “official story” about the Sandy Hook Massacre, like nearly all
such events before it, is beginning to break down in the light of critical scrutiny and analysis.

One such analysis that has spread widely among American dissident factions was done by
Florida Atlantic University professor James Tracy, who in two reports, The Sandy Hook
Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information and Sandy Hook School
Massacre Part II: Continued Ambiguity and Augmented Realities clearly shows this tragic
event more resembling an intelligence agency/military psychological operation than a lone
gunman massacre it is be purported to be.

To the American people being allowed to know the truth of these events it appears unlikely as
the Obama regime has secured for itself the lapdog services of the powerful American
mainstream propaganda media establishment which, to date, continues to spread its venomous
lies to an unsuspecting public not really knowing, or even caring, about the abyss they are being
led to.

One such example of this was last month when the CIA-backed social media site FACEBOOK
suspended an account because they dared to post a quote by the father of Indian independence
Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) that said: “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India,
history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”

To if the American people will awaken and realize that the true objective of the Obama regime
is to disarm all of their Jewish citizens (and as we had reported on in our 23 December report All
Jews Living In US Ordered To Be Disarmed) like their corporate-banking counterparts did in
Nazi Germany it does not seem likely. But, and as history always show…those who fail to
remember the past are doomed to live it once again.
January 9, 2012 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is
granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com.
Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the
information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic
Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees
with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions
conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a
longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is
addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

You May Already Be To Late…But It Has Begun!

They Are Going To Come For You…Why Are You Helping Them?
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1644.htm




January 13, 2013

Obama Regime Orders Computer Genius Aaron
Swartz Suicided
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
                                          A new Foreign Military Intelligence Main Directorate
                                          (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today is
                                          saying that one of the United States top computer
                                          geniuses, named Aaron Swartz (1986-2013) [photo 2nd
                                          left], was, “in all probability,” suicided by forces loyal
                                          to the Obama regime seeking to “set an example” for
                                          other dissident forces opposed to the American
                                          governments continued crackdown on leakers of US
                                          secrets.

                                          According to this report, GRU intelligence analysts
                                          tracking the Obama “death squads,” that in the past
                                          fortnight have assassinated two prominent American
                                          gun support activists, indentified one of these VIPER
                                          teams “operating” in the Crown Heights, Brooklyn,
                                          section of New York City this past week where shortly
                                          afterwards Swartz was discovered dead of an apparent
                                          hanging.

                                          Swartz, this report continues, fits the profile of
                                          computer dissidents long targeted by the US; which
                                          include Gary McKinnon [photo bottom left], the Scottish
                                          systems administrator and hacker who was accused by
                                          the US, in 2002, of perpetrating the “biggest military
                                          computer hack of all time,” but whose extradition to
                                          America was blocked by the UK, and US Army
                                          Private Bradley Manning, who stands accused of being
                                          the whistle blower behind what is called the
                                          WikiLeaks Scandal and whose confinement by the
                                          Obama regime prompted Juan E. Mendez, a United
                                          Nations Special Rapporteur on torture, to publish a
                                          report saying that Manning’s detention conditions had
been “cruel, inhuman and degrading.”

The “crimes” Swartz was being accused of committing by the Obama regime, this report says,
were wire fraud, computer fraud, unlawfully obtaining information from a protected computer,
and recklessly damaging a protected computer, in relation to downloading roughly 4 million
academic journal articles from JSTOR (short for Journal Storage) which is a digital library for
American academics founded in 1995.

The “reality,” however, behind the crimes Swartz was accused of by the Obama regime, and
which the US Department of Justice (DOJ) was seeking a 50 year prison sentence and $4 million
fine for, according to GRU analysts in this report, was nothing more than this young computer
genius putting a computer in a broom closet he neither sought to hide, nor did the owner of the
computers he accessed, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) wish to prosecute him for.
To why Swartz was so feared by the Obama regime can be glimpsed in the writing about him by
one of his closest mates, Cory Doctorow, the famous Canadian journalist and co-editor of the
weblog Boing Boing, who wrote, “Aaron had an unbeatable combination of political insight,
technical skill, and intelligence about people and issues. I think he could have revolutionized
American (and worldwide) politics. His legacy may still yet do so.”

Doctorow further noted in his article about Swartz, titled RIP, Aaron Swartz, that this young
computer genius may have, also, been targeted by the Obama regime who have been furiously
hunting for computer hackers linked in any way whatsoever to Manning.

Seemingly unbeknownst to the community of American computer experts mourning Swartz
today is that his death, should it have, indeed, been orchestrated by the Obama regime as this
GRU report suggests, under US law it is completely legal as their President has the right to
assassinate anyone he so chooses, in any manner he chooses, all without either charges or trial.

In fact, in 2010, the Obama regime drafted a secret legal memorandum claiming that the
President had the power to order the killing of an American citizen without a trial. Several US
officials described this secret memo as a 50-page document drafted by the Justice Department’s
Office of Legal Counsel. This is the same government agency, the WSWS news service reports,
that drafted the notorious “torture memos” during the Bush administration, justifying
waterboarding and other abuses of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and other US military and CIA-
run prisons.

So frightening has the Obama regime become that the Bloomberg news service reported this past
October (2012) that, “Eric Holder, attorney general under President Barack Obama, has
prosecuted more government officials for alleged leaks under the World War I-era Espionage
Act than all his predecessors combined, including law-and-order Republicans John Mitchell,
Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft.”

Even worse, and as reported by the Examiner news service, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
last month advocating giving Obama “dictatorial powers” and the highly influential American
progressive political blog Daily Kos is now openly calling for a “benevolent” Obama
dictatorship.

Falling on deaf ears, however, were President Putin’s warnings to the American people in 2009
wherein he said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise
“excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.

“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a
speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the
long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am
sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”

The death of Aaron Swartz, however, shows that once again these Americans, who continually
fail to remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
January 13, 2012 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is
granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com.
Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the
information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic
Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees
with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions
conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a
longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is
addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

You May Already Be To Late…But It Has Begun!

They Are Going To Come For You…Why Are You Helping Them?
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1646.htm




Obama’s ‘kill list’ critic found dead in
New York City
Prominent American blogger and computer prodigy Aaron Swartz

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:37AM GMT

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Information is power. But like all power, there are those who want to keep it for themselves.”

Prominent American blogger and computer prodigy Aaron Swartz

Prominent American blogger and computer prodigy Aaron Swartz, who spoke against US
President Barack Obama’s “kill list” and cyber attacks against Iran, has been found dead
in New York.



Police found the body of the 26-year-old in his apartment in New York City borough of Brooklyn
on Friday, said a spokeswoman for the city’s chief medical examiner.

Brooklyn’s chief medical examiner ruled the death a suicide by hanging, but no further detail is
available              about                the               mysterious                death.

Last year, Swartz openly criticized the US and the Israeli regime for launching joint cyber
attacks                                    against                                     Iran.

The blogger was also vocal in criticizing Obama’s so-called kill list and other policies.

Obama has been reportedly approving the names put on the “kill lists” used in the targeted
killing operations carried out by US assassination drones.

Every week or so, more than 100 members of the US national security team gather via
secure video teleconference run by the Pentagon and go over the biographies of
suspects in Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan, and “nominate” those who should be
targeted in the attacks.

Obama is then provided with the identities of those put on the “kill list” and signs off on every
strike in Yemen and Somalia as well as the risky strikes in Pakistan.

Swartz was also widely credited for co-authoring the specifications for the Web feed format RSS
1.0      (Rich         Site      Summary)           which        he       worked         on       at       age       14.

RSS is designed to deliver content from sites that change constantly, such as news pages, to
users.

Swartz was critical of monopoly of information by corporate cartels and believed that information
should    be        shared     and      available     for     the     benefit     of      society.

“Information is power. But like all power, there are those who want to keep it for themselves,” he
wrote            in          an            online          “manifesto”           in         2008.

Based on that belief, the computer prodigy founded the nonprofit group DemandProgress.

The group launched a successful campaign to block a 2011 bill that the US House of
Representatives     called       the      Stop       Online         Piracy     Act.

Had it been approved, the bill would have allowed court orders to restrain access to some
websites considered to be involved in illegal sharing of intellectual property.

DemandProgress argued that the thwarted Stop Online Piracy Act would have broadly
authorized the US government to censor and restrict legitimate Web communication.

ASH/HSN/MA

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arniebhoy
Jan 17, 2013 2:55 PM

murdered by the zionist gov't of the usa. no doubt about it, and clearly calling them zionist is
not being anti-semetic, this boy was jewish, proving zionists are not jews.

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Andrew
Jan 16, 2013 6:45 AM
From reading these comments, it's apparent that the US government drove the man to
suicide, even if he tied his own noose. But the real irony is that the President of the US is
catching the blame, and for no other reason than his own claim to have the authority to
have done it. In this case I have no pity for the wrongly accused.

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The One
Jan 15, 2013 10:56 PM

Clearly a suicide since his hands were tied behind his back.

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Manu Costa
Jan 15, 2013 9:17 PM

It's all about a psychological warfare, they do this kind of thing in order to defeat our morale.

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ALex Hokin
Jan 15, 2013 9:29 AM

OBAMA had this man KILLED, he probably CHOKED him with his own HANDS and flew
AWAY on airforceONE before the ZIONIST media went to work with their suicide STORY
spin machine/NWOpropagandaSWATRZ had real info on deep black op CIA/ZION DRONE
ARMY Kill team working from DULCE BASE under MAJESTIC12/ROTHSCHILD command,
all under front of RIAA using SOPA to crush the FREEDOMSADAM SWATZR was killed by
OBAMA using implanted MKULTRA brain hypnosisWAKE up before before OBAMA
DRONE Army take over the world

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somebody help himin reply to ALex Hokin
1/16/2013 5:04:04 AM

Freedom of misunderstanding the content of the news.I hope you are ok.

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Jamesin reply to ALex Hokin
1/15/2013 5:40:31 PM

You, sir, are a special breed of stupid.
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david
Jan 15, 2013 3:33 AM

Such cases happen everywhere in the world. People should know the realities:You people
are about nationalism, You people are about being religious.We can add many to these
above.This is all about a SYSTEM.The point is about; "where do you want to be."When you
talk about something which harms the system, you d be shut-down.This is something
obvious.Case of Aaron Swartz is the same as many other heroesThis is one of the reasons,
why do many government employees resigned.Cause they know about INSIDE JOBS.And
the inside information keeps leaking.Blinds still remain to be manipulated.Its all about the
power.What is the power :As Swartz stated before; information is the power.And most of us
being involved in these wars.Not about religion, nothing about loving your country and being
a good citizen.Citizen should be "deaf-mute,who cannot say anything and AMEN anything
that has been told."Money ?It simply is just a tool to -MANAGE THE GAME-RIP Aaron

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MrE
Jan 14, 2013 10:44 PM

Why would you kill someone and make a martyr out of him when you could put him in in a
gulag. Doesn't compute

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MrEin reply to MrE
1/15/2013 3:42:36 PM

Right, except that the only people who would consider it a warning are conspiracy theorist
wingnuts. Now, how many of the people here would consider this a reason to stop looking
instead of a reason to look deeper. This has the EXACT OPPOSITE effect that someone
would want from it.When you are dealing with poor logic, the key is not to argue that the
logic is poor. The key is to embrace the poor logic and show how it leads to an internal
contradiction.

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Poin reply to MrE
1/15/2013 12:50:33 AM

nonsense...it would be cheaper in the long run, quicker and provide a warning to others who
may dare to challenge the almighty.
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JudgementComes
Jan 14, 2013 10:26 PM

Suicide. Yeah. Right.

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Ken
Jan 14, 2013 10:8 PM

So wait a minute, it's now "fact" that Aaron Swartz had "damning information" and "proof of
wrongdoing" about the Obama administration? If he had it, where is it? Why would he not
release it? What is the nature of this information? Where is any teeny tiny tangential bit of
anything that points to him having such information?It can't possibly be that a troubled
young man with a self-stated history of depression, including considering suicide, who was
facing serious charges that may have resulted in years behind bars, (gee, I dunno?)
committed suicide?

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everreadyin reply to Ken
1/14/2013 10:35:28 PM

this article doesn't say anything about him having "damninginformation" or "proof of
wrongdoing" it simply states thathe was critical of the kill list that obummer {according to
many stories going around 3-4 months ago} was keeping

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lisa
Jan 14, 2013 9:32 PM

Um, Aaron voted for Obama TWICE. Checkmate.

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Heff..in reply to lisa
1/15/2013 2:10:31 AM

£1 - Were you there with Aaron while he was voting ?£2 - If he was voted for him ; soo ? If
its a checkmate; what ? Another story to write back ?I d tell what I think ;He was an honest
person...They could not BUY him... That money could not reach him on the way he was
walking through...Besides; this case is very obvious; as much as 9-11 :)And not to
forget;Without anyone understands, you can make someone suicide too; if ya havent
studied chemy; wanted to let ya know about it.. :)Great Hugs !! :)

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Karma
Jan 14, 2013 9:25 PM

I have been waiting for this to happen since info his story's hit mainstream news. I wasn't
surprised to learn he was facing prison time and whereas another american in his shoes
would've got less time if at all convicted, he when sentenced, will no doubt get max. If he
didn't kill himself why would they kill him when he was going to jail until long after Obama's
reign?

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JJ
Jan 14, 2013 5:42 PM

Be careful on what the obvious looks like. Everything in life has an undercurrent most don't
see.

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Andi Price
Jan 14, 2013 4:19 PM

Andrew Breitbart - had lots of information on Obama, information called 'damning', suddenly
and unexpectedly dead. Michael Cormier - autopsy technician who worked on Breitbart's
autopsy and had access to information regarding the cause of Breitbart's death, died
suddenly from arsnic poisoning. If you're naive enough to believe in coincidence, please
raise your hand. There is no such THING as coincidence, people. That's how the simple
minded describe clear indicators of something their mind can't comprehend as possible.
The Jews of Nazi Germany had nothing on the selective blindness of the American people
and we will meet the same end if we do not wake up before it's too late ...and, no, I'm not a
conspiracy theorist who has lost touch with reality. I am very much in touch.

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Ahmed Daradi
Jan 14, 2013 4:0 PM

This is crazy, u.s goes around the World telling people to embrace democracy, well if this
what democracy means, to kill your critics and silence your adversaries america stay at
home. preacher practice your words.
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Angry Manin reply to Ahmed Daradi
1/15/2013 4:31:45 PM

Obama - 4 on American soil. We the people - 0. It's time folks, to strike back. It's getting to
the point - first they came for the Jews, then for the Christians. Time to strike back before it
gets to that point.

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jason lee
Jan 14, 2013 12:59 PM

i am not surprised, they killed him.

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Spence
Jan 14, 2013 9:17 AM

Could someone please provide a source for Swartz criticizing the kill-lists? That's something
that I'd be interested in reading.

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Moonin reply to Spence
1/14/2013 11:31:37 PM

watch all his interviews with RT on youtube,you will discover yourself.

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midwest truthin reply to Spence
1/14/2013 10:57:23 PM

You know Tina, I did Google it, and I couldn't find one reliable source to confirm that. All I
found were a bunch of blogs claiming that he spoke out against the "Kill List" and was killed
because of it. Maybe you can provide me with a source, not an email that has been
forwarded hundreds of times and written by a mouth breather, that can verify this. And
please don't come with the Goggle it argument again, because that is nothing more than an
out for idiots that make idiotic claims and can't back them. You may as well just said to
study it out.

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Tinain reply to Spence
1/14/2013 9:27:17 PM

It's called google, learn to use it. Fascinating the information that is available to you.

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starfire
Jan 14, 2013 9:0 AM

This young brilliant man was set to go to trial after a 2 year federal persecution for
downloading free files from an unauthorized location. The Feds would not plea deal
anything reasonable and wanted to send to jail for a long time. His entire life savings was
depleted just preparing for this Federal trial. This man was a Harvard Fellow and was a
savant in intelligence. He was destroyed by the US Feds. He was driven to suicide,
something he discussed and blogged about it prior to his hanging. He was 26 years old and
facing a prison term with rapist, murders, and drug pins until he would have been released
at age 76. Live free...or die.

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Saur Ben Zviin reply to starfire
1/14/2013 10:09:35 AM

He did not commit suicide, he was killed.

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jack
Jan 14, 2013 8:20 AM

Us policy.Obama and his fellow Criminals will Not succeed.

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Vincent
Jan 14, 2013 8:1 AM

This was a set-up from the get go! Are government r ellite is a joke! I'm surprised they didn't
try to spin this murder not suicide, on another killing with a gun to try to take away 2nd
amendment they also freedom of speech , remember Obama’s ‘kill list’ !Pray 4 this man and
his family. We need more people not just Americans to step up and take stands like Swartz
did because we are all n this messed up society together

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J. Jonesin reply to Vincent
1/14/2013 9:23:29 PM

You should go back to school instead of posting semi-illiterate garble on the internet.

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SAHAR
Jan 14, 2013 7:6 AM

Not suprise, the devil will always do evil.

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Tony Lancon
Jan 14, 2013 6:27 AM

Not just dangerous, but deadly. There are no "injuries" only death. OBAMACIDE!!!

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Paul
Jan 14, 2013 5:6 AM

Our government is starting to remind me of the mafia. This is good and bad..The mafia will
kill anyone who is in their way and even kill there own. Unfortunately they kill innocent
people too, which in a lot of cases can account for their downfall. I see some serious
desperation in our government. sooner or later they are going to slip up big time and hang
themselves from the highest limb for all to see. I just hope it come very soon

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Heffin reply to Paul
1/15/2013 2:41:42 AM

MESSAGE FOR LISA:Do you know what do you talk about,lisa ?:)You got to be "the one"
of them to believe in what you are talking about. Do you know about science? Have you
ever studied? You can be someone by studying alone too.But you know what? You should
have to learn how to.And you know what? You should have to watch children between 4-12.
Cause, I think they can teach you how to see, realize and sort of "mankind" emotions.Think
about it :)I am sure, before its too late someday-; you will take the light out.. You have the
potential !!! Dont underestimate yourself and stop believing in washed up -MANIPULATED-
PROVOCATED things.:))

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Lisain reply to Paul
1/14/2013 9:28:27 PM

You watch too much TV.

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Katherinein reply to Paul
1/14/2013 7:33:35 PM

It is quite possible they just did ("slip up big time and hang themselves").

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David James Vickeryin reply to Paul
1/14/2013 8:49:22 AM

Next time you see a photo of John Brennan, the new head of the CIA, take a good long
look. That is a criminal face, a thug if ever there was one.

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HB
Jan 14, 2013 4:49 AM

Thank you again Press TV for truth reporting, wouldnot have known about the deceased
criticism's of Obama's "hit list" and criticism of the zionist regime and their cyber attacks
against another member of the UN.Here in Canada the news channel's including BBC
Americaonly reported Swartz's suicide and that he founded Reddit.Bravo Press TV! Rest in
peace AaronSwartz.

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kate
Jan 14, 2013 3:38 AM

this is no suicide but more blood on the hands of obama and his administration ? I call it
murder!

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lohra
Jan 14, 2013 3:8 AM

will anyone of sound mind would think of him committing suicide?? I don't think so
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Lisain reply to lohra
1/14/2013 9:29:26 PM

You never even knew the guy, probably never even heard his name until he killed himself.
How can you possibly defend him??

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Karmain reply to lohra
1/14/2013 9:14:08 PM

He was broke and now owed moneys spent on lawyers for a pending case they were
GOING to lay him down for, this combined w/ the depressing element,when all this info he
was giving the public, of society's dark side may have been enough to driv someone to
suicide. I'm NOT saying it did. Just that its very possible he could have.

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Bud
Jan 14, 2013 2:27 AM

You voted for him you own his actions

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AnOnYmOuS 2U
Jan 14, 2013 2:18 AM

Honestly, from a guy who has his military sources in high places...death by suicide by
someone who was criticizing Washington? Definitely a sanctioned hit by DC. That's their
MO. That's how you not only stop their rantings and agendas, but also discredit everything
they've done up until now. If Pilate would have turned Jesus into a suicide by hanging,
where would the Christians be now? You have to think about it a little.

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Captnin reply to AnOnYmOuS 2U
1/14/2013 7:09:10 AM

@Tim ... Aye, ya got that right... They constantly Hang us out to dry.

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timin reply to AnOnYmOuS 2U
1/14/2013 2:30:36 AM

Yeah, the govt killed him. Hanging is there favorite thing.

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J
Jan 14, 2013 2:17 AM

LOTS of dead people under sketchy circumstances. Look at how many of Seal Team 6 are
dead!

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Captnin reply to J
1/14/2013 7:13:53 AM

@J ... This is true. There are many SEAL's still alive, even from the original TEAM 6. Many
can Not be found today. They left the NAVY and did what they do best. Simply vanish
without a trace... That is until they are needed but not for the gov... The saying holds true,
"Ya Can't kill em all".

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erick
Jan 14, 2013 1:24 AM

everyone in america know he were killed

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Piltdown911
Jan 14, 2013 12:45 AM

Looks like he made the kill list and got suicided.

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tiger031508
Jan 13, 2013 11:58 PM

If he was killed, his murder is not in vain. Real freedom is being brave enough to die for
what you believe. Truth can never be silenced. Evil never wins. In this life, live with purpose,
and by faith know that heaven is the final destination for those who live by faith. No unjust
deed goes unnoticed by GOD Almighty!!!!!! These are indeed evil days. Never shut up the
truth......
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Willnotsurrendertoalyingleader
Jan 13, 2013 11:26 PM

Most foreigners that are not from the USA but are living here think we Americans are blind
and stupid where the so called President is concerned, what they dont realize is the majority
of us were on to his forked tongue from day 1! Yes he has a heard of sheep following him
which he will lead them to be slaughtered while hes smiling! Dont judge all of us Americans
by a bunch of followers that have only ignorance to believe in to make them feel they are a
part of something! I saw they white house needs to do a unarmed drill to test it out before
trying to enforce it on us

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Dave
Jan 13, 2013 10:49 PM

NY is close to Washington,and Zionist agents ruling the country didn't have to go far, did
they?

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Marc Malone
Jan 13, 2013 10:41 PM

They're getting sloppy. Obvious. They're getting desperate. We are not coming for you-
'people', we are already here...

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sid mcgoo
Jan 13, 2013 10:32 PM

one more for the good old kill list mr. president

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James N
Jan 13, 2013 10:29 PM

Bloggers like Aaron who believe they may be a target, need to declare on their blogs
regularly if they are suicidal or not. That way if they are suddenly found dead from 'suicide',
it will be clear for all to see that this person is dead yet declared openly only the day before
that they didn't harbour any suicidal thoughts.
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terriin reply to James N
1/16/2013 7:19:47 PM

Ummm, he did. He spoke often of depression and suicide.

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Cindyin reply to James N
1/14/2013 3:11:00 AM

In some cases that did occur and still those people were killed and their deaths set up to
look like suicide.

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Redpossum
Jan 13, 2013 10:20 PM

He was murdered.

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abinico
Jan 13, 2013 9:46 PM

Way too many people like him suicide (or die from cancer) for it to be a coincidence. The
one I knew personally was Mae Brussell, a noted conspiracy researcher. Died from
stomach cancer.

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mikein reply to abinico
1/14/2013 11:12:14 AM

She sure wasn't afraid to speak what she felt and knew about! When I first started to listen
to her archives I quickly understood what sort of cancer she got! This government is
disgusting!

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willardsmythe
Jan 13, 2013 9:33 PM
This genius man was too smart to live in America. The govt wants the people living her to
keep taking your vaccines and watching your entertainment shows.All is well.Another wierd
death happened Jan 4. John Noveske,a rifle manufacturer.He just happened to write a
lengthly facebook post about all the gun shooters,aledged to have wiped out many, who
were on Pharm psych drugs. A week later he ran into some boulders while driving, Silkwood
style.

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Young life gone but not forgotten
Jan 13, 2013 9:31 PM

Sad news, R.I.P, my sympathy to Aaron's family and friends. Please keep his name alive.

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susanin reply to Young life gone but not forgotten
1/14/2013 7:41:05 PM

I agree, even sadder that they dropped the charges a little too late.

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Other Assasinations
Jan 13, 2013 8:30 PM

Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, David Carridine, Tupac Shakur, John
Lennon, JFK, JFK Jr., RFK, Jimmy Hoffa, Rodney King Jr., Rik Clay, Deborah Palfrey, and
tens of first eye witnesses of 9/11. Real Dr. Mahmoody of Not Without My Daughter was
their target before he fled to Iran in 1984.

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marta
Jan 13, 2013 7:37 PM

may his soul rest in peace

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mary
Jan 13, 2013 7:36 PM

USA IS A LAND OF TEROR

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Greg Kanein reply to mary
1/13/2013 8:29:09 PM

And the uneducated masses.

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Please find out
Jan 13, 2013 7:11 PM

If there is any day in the history of USA that nobody was killed,it would be intersting to know
which year which month and which day of the week it was at least to mark it as best day.

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NWOhno
Jan 13, 2013 7:1 PM

Whether he was killed or committed suicide, either way, directly or indirectly, NWO killed
him.This man spoke out in the name of truth on everyone's behalf. This most certanly is a
tragedy. Rest in peace!

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AZERI
Jan 13, 2013 6:57 PM

This is Western democracy at it's best...

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gerald
Jan 13, 2013 6:41 PM

Imagine if Assange went to Sweden, he would be a "suicide" as well.

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Rastain reply to gerald
1/13/2013 10:15:51 PM

hmmm... am not sure, Assange is actually one of them... wikileaks is a frontline Mossad op,
with intent to blackmail public officers.... as Bzinsky said... they have "very pointed intel on
ppl"Schwarz on the other hand is a great guy and a truthful human beign, he was
murdered.i first read this story on MSNBC and it was said "he was suffering from
depression and suicidal intents"... since i hv learnt never to trust any of those ..., i came
here to get the real story... may he rest with his fathers

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AHMED
Jan 13, 2013 6:24 PM

AMERCIANS NOW YOU KNOW YOUR DEVIL ZIONISTS CONTROLLED GOVERMENT
IS THE KILLER ON THE EARTH.WHAT MORE PROOF YOU WANT.

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Cindyin reply to AHMED
1/14/2013 3:13:34 AM

Already knew that.

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jvc
Jan 13, 2013 6:21 PM

It will be hard to convict this assassination being in NYC where the same people so far have
gotten away with the 9/11 attack on America with a horrible False Flag operation. It would
be a good start on the road to justice if everyone will watch the Architects and Engineers for
Truth on youtube documenting the technical reasons 9/11 was an inside job.

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Urban Galin reply to jvc
1/13/2013 11:45:19 PM

No, no, no. Dont be deceived about 9/11...there are plenty of controlled opposition groups
out there. Of course it was a staged event for other looting means, by elements in the US
govt. But look at this very new analysis that has come about from a materials scientist Dr
Judy Wood. She outlines in her new book "Where Did The Towers Go" about the towers
turning to dust in mid-air, THEN falling; speculating the use of directed energy weapontry.
And ya know what....she's right! look at the videos of the towers' "dustification." She's onto
something. The greatest secret in the world is not that 9/11 was an "inside job" but that
secret weapontry was most likely used to target the towers. The secret weapontry and
scientists that were transferred secretly from Germany to Bariloche, Argentina, after World
War 2,to continue their secret technology projects .

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Guest
Jan 13, 2013 6:19 PM

Nothing about this in the American media!! Nothing at all.

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@Guestin reply to Guest
1/14/2013 4:17:59 AM

Are you blind? It is on CNN's frontpage with headline "Internet prodigy, 26, commits suicide"
and also Fox news webpage "Reddit co-founder kills self in New York, police say". Do you
even have access to western media and just making things up?

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Praying 4 Swartz
Jan 13, 2013 5:15 PM

In reply to Afro Pioneer. Glad to know, and proud to know that someone outsmarts the
Yank-Zio-neocon spying and killing machine. That's the way, you have to outsmart these
goons. Play it the way Iranians and the Hizbollah do it. I am not Iranian, I am an Asian
Hindu, but have a lot of respect for whoever, wherever people fight to stand for their rights,
dignity. Yea, make 2013 the year of reckoning with the Zionist-banksters-MIC scums.
Justice will prevail! Long live the people's righteous struggle against the 1[[]%] parasites, ...

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Assassination Nation
Jan 13, 2013 4:44 PM

Another brilliant mind slain by government lawsuits.

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African Pioneer
Jan 13, 2013 4:31 PM

The American CIA & Israel Mossad must have killed him without a doubt, I was attacked by
these wicked USA & Israeli death squads in Newyork during Sarkozy's determined
aggression on Libya. Good enough, I had a secret guard of 65 armed men licensed to carry
arms, dressed in civilian clothes, that roughed them up, with a bleeding nose. I moved from
old locations, changed addresses, and USA no longer a fun place to be. The only good
thing in America is NRA, NATIONAL RIFLE Association and the ability to buy unlimited
amount of fire arms, then can have a private militia. Then stay out of American mercenary
and CIA radar. Operate with aliases and have more than (5) trusted friends, family
members or ideological minded people use the same e-mail account, phone number and
communication lines, so they don't know who is who?. Rule of the thumb, never travel to
USA when you are not armed or have no presence of armed people to secure your
freedom, it's become very dangerous for anti imperialists.

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African Pioneerin reply to African Pioneer
1/14/2013 4:20:12 AM

Sorry to hear about your loss and plight Haroldo. I am old as well, I do not type faster, but
my son helps me do most of the typing. I speak my mind, I am 82, almost same age
category of your mother, we old people at times do not care when talking, we spill
everything we know, seen and exprienced. That can get many old people in major trouble
with fascist governments as USA. I am afraid of America, it's gotten worse and far worse as
days keep passing, hope you can obtain remains of your mother and take them home,
regardless what type of burial given to her, she deserves dignity of decent burial, resting in
peace and that of humanity. Your mother did her part by speaking out, these days, please
make sure to talk in secrecy and act more. America will obliterate itself, every fascist nation
has been resisted in history, became very expensive for it's own citizens and the world to
accomodate. People are afraid of America, day when every person has great guns, bullets
will choke USA.

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HAROLDO MERLONin reply to African Pioneer
1/13/2013 9:22:00 PM

My mother Dr. Zulema Emilia LLacay ( age 87 ) was found dead at her apartment in Miami ,
on 2009 december the 3º, she is still at the Miami Dade County Morgue ( supposedly), they
tried to cremate her , to erase the evidence ( not a natural death ). I´ve been in a terrorist list
for more than 15 years, being a convert to Islam , I used to live in the u.s.a., of course I
can´t travel to bring the corpse to my country (Argentina ) my Government has changed its
political position and my mother should come home in a couple of months to receive proper
burial ( christian ), her murder is a message to myself, and time ( si Dios lo permite ) will
give me the oportunity to avenge her killing.Haroldo Merlon

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Mighty God
Jan 13, 2013 4:6 PM

The American Way!
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Steve Buckeye
Jan 13, 2013 3:56 PM

It probably would have been more appropriate to have him have committed suicide by
drone instead of hanging. I doubt if someone as intelligent as this man was would resort to
such a primitive way of offing himself. And on the other hand, how easy it would be to kill
him by other means and then just hang him in a closet by whoever did this. And the NWO
wonders why more Americans are buying guns than ever before. This kind of crap is the
reason.....when the men in black come for you, you'd better have a means to at least try
and defend yourself.......

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Steve Buckeyein reply to Steve Buckeye
1/13/2013 4:24:33 PM

Unfortunately Ali B....you might not have to wait too long to see. The only defense against a
bad guy with a drone is a good guy with a drone. Gander Mountain gets personal defense
drones next week and I will be first in line, but the drone will only be able to fire 1 missile.....
8o(

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Ali Babain reply to Steve Buckeye
1/13/2013 4:02:52 PM

I can't wait to see what a gun will do against a drone. :)

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Swartz' Prayer
Jan 13, 2013 3:49 PM

Yes, deepest condolence and mourning for the loss of this prodigious young man.Very
unlikely that such a brilliant person so full of empathy (check his charming smile) would take
his own life. I suspect, like others mentioned, the dismay and depressed blogs planted by
trolls, who also managed to sneak in here. Aaaron and Adam will go straight to the wide
opened pearly gates and will help us fight the Satanic-Zionist-neocons-banksters-MSM-ers!
2013 is year of reckoning with these scums. Rise ye peasants and dispossesed of the
earth!

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Swartz' Prayer
Jan 13, 2013 3:40 PM

This is bloody lowly and disgusting spin. Suicide by such a prodigious computer expert?
Check his charming, compassionate smile. Like a saint! Depression can not belong to a
person who can smile so full of understanding and empathy. Most likely, someone planted
that dismay or depression blog on his. The DHS are very good in creating fall guy, patsy or
make death or berserk acts like natural through mind altering drugs or after studying the
Manchuriann candidate profile and add just that little nudge to make the bucket tips
"naturally." Aurora, Sandy Hook and this one, they try to make it all so natural. Yes, rise up
ye patriots, peasants against the Satanic Zionist-neocons-MICs-banksters-MSMs-ers.2013
is the year of reckoning with these scums of the earth. Adam Lanza,Aaron Swartz go
straight to wide opened pearly gate and will assist the fight in the world toward the
extermination of the Zionist-fascist-rogue neocon states!

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canada
Jan 13, 2013 3:31 PM

The world has a lot of good people like him,only if all of them can make a team regardless
of their colour, religion etc.. & speak against oppression.

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CVHin reply to canada
1/13/2013 10:20:32 PM

And someone from our safe country, Canada, would suggest this. I agree!

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John Connor
Jan 13, 2013 3:4 PM

Is the New World Order killing off future leaders of the Human Resistance?The death of
Aaron Swartz sound suspiciously similar to these deaths:mark lombardiHope Reichbach
Perry MooreAndrew EmbiricosThere are ALOT of ways to murder someone and make it
look like a suicidewithout ever laying a hand on them. It's called the "art" of murder. The
2009 film "Accident", directedby Soi Cheang reveals a few of them.

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Doviein reply to John Connor
1/14/2013 8:21:05 PM

What about killing off our honest news reporters like Breitbart, or anyone who reports their
cause of death truthfully. Yes, our leaders of tomorrow are getting snuffed or used as
patsies to accomplish a false flag. I hope others learn from this and go into hiding. London
journalist Christopher Story was poisoned when he came here a year ago, writing on the
bankers and the Wanta scandal with our gubmnt. There was recently an explosion in either
Illinois or Indiana which took out 3 homes, the guys name was Long and he had a
prominent business which saved millions of dollars for businessmen and women, he was
snuffed because it took money away from the gubmnt.

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David James Vickeryin reply to John Connor
1/13/2013 7:58:43 PM

I know it's a difficult question, as there are so many, but who would you say should top the
list?

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Anonymousin reply to John Connor
1/13/2013 3:33:28 PM

Would be sad if the creme of the totalitarian crop began to also commit suicides eh?

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Wake Up Call
Jan 13, 2013 3:2 PM

It is also quite possible that the latest blame being put on the Islamic Republic of Iran for
cyber attacks on the American banks as noted by Ashraf, was traced to the late Aaron
Swartz.Anything which or anybody who can minutely influence the development of public
thought and freedom from the shackles of hegemonic terrorist policies will be targeted for
elimination;                                                                        Dr.Kelly,
Roshan,                        Chavez,Ortega,Malcom,Libya,Syria                      etc,etc.
The endless war and murders are tentacles of the NWO designs for whole world
subjugation of which the UN protected and Arab funded zionist expansion is another.No
person or place is exempted.If PressTV was a person or place it would have been
assasinated or drone attacked a long time ago. We offer our condolences and regrets on
the passing of this braveheart genius and may his death enliven the heartbeats of the noble
and rightly guided freedom seekers.

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Ashrafin reply to Wake Up Call
1/13/2013 10:03:49 PM

2 Wake Up Call..........I also WONDER, if the reason they killed him is, SO THEY CAN
BLAIM IT ON IRAN..........without ANY ONE to oppose it???.......... It is REALY TRAGIC, he
seemed such a wonderful, caring individual...........the WORLD NEED MORE LIKE
HIM.........So, the crooks have NO PLACE TO HIDE.........May Justice prevail!

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suspicious mind
Jan 13, 2013 2:49 PM

This suspicious death needs to be investigated fully. The corporate, political, military elite
will use ANY means at their disposal to secure power.

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bob klinckin reply to suspicious mind
1/14/2013 4:56:13 PM

"...needs to be investigated fully"--by whom? When the justice apparatus is infiltrated or
intimidated and apparently breaking down, pious statements about what ought to be are of
no practical use.

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LOLin reply to suspicious mind
1/13/2013 4:12:51 PM

Sorry, my reply was supposed to have been to JohnA below.

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LOLin reply to suspicious mind
1/13/2013 4:05:16 PM

I bet you also believe that 19 teenagers with box cutters brought down the Twin Towers, hit
the Pentagon and crashed another plane en route to the White House. :) And, of course,
you're ready to invest in that slightly used bridge your government is selling you in Brooklyn.

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Nick
Jan 13, 2013 2:42 PM
It looks like Mr. Swartz found himself on that Kill list. For those of you who think this was
suicide, what makes you think that O-bomber would just kill American dissidents out in the
open? When it comes to killing US-based dissidents, the federal government death squads
will ALWAYS make it look like an accident, suicide, overdose, etc. in order to cover their
tracks. More of this will happen. In fact, these movie theatre and school shootings seem all
too sketchy...

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scott68
Jan 13, 2013 2:39 PM

if say for instance the president or individuals who are part of the political establishment of
the USA who condone or allow such acts as the act of assassination the act of
assassination being used as a tool of oppression may it be used abroad in places such as
Afghanistan or Pakistan or any other place for instance the point being could the president
of the USA who is involved in such acts as assassination it would seem highly possible the
president of the USA having a individual such as Mr Swartz assassinated its highly possible
there being a cover up the political establishment of the USA could use there influence to
make that happen you certainly couldn't dismiss it being highly possible

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ICU
Jan 13, 2013 2:21 PM

Unfortunately for Swartz, his many blogs and musings online have given much cover to
anyone who might seek to murder him, making it look like suicide. He blogged about
despair, depression, and also dying.

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Cindyin reply to ICU
1/14/2013 3:22:01 AM

Everyone suffers from depression at one time or another. With what the U.S. government
and Israeli cronies do to destroy lives is enough to depress anyone! This young man was
MURDERED in cold blood by them!

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I Am The Beast Sssotlohiefmjn
Jan 13, 2013 1:24 PM
I do not put it past Obama to have had this man murdered in a manner to suggest suicide. I
pray a thousand and one men arise to replace this brave freedom fighter and member of
God's Base aka Al Qeada whose struggle was simply to condemn the wicked and free the
oppressed who sought freedom. May he rest in Christ and rise in Moses.

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David James Vickeryin reply to I Am The Beast Sssotlohiefmjn
1/13/2013 8:38:32 PM

I'm thinking John Brennan, the new head of the CIA would be the man responsible.

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Debra Smithin reply to I Am The Beast Sssotlohiefmjn
1/13/2013 2:46:08 PM

I agree with you that was my very first thought as well.

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Peter
Jan 13, 2013 1:21 PM

The murder of Aaron Swartz is only the last visible action of the Zionist mafia which has
ramifications all over the world. They have Sayanim in all countries on all levels who are
used to silence critical minds. Murder is their ultima ratio ... before they murder you, they
destroy your life in every way ...

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Elinin reply to Peter
1/13/2013 3:06:50 PM

If what you say is true Peter, how was this young man's life ruined before his death?

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Kamoin reply to Peter
1/13/2013 2:59:28 PM

I have studied the killing of Tupac Shakur and come to the conclusion he was assassinated
by Obama's zionist election team one year before BO officially entered politics, to smooth
the way for this mediocre individual, because if he had been confronted to Tupac or if Tupac
had been free to voice his opinion and run for the office of president as he let it be known
was his intention, BO wouldn't have had a chance against him.

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PeteThePoetin reply to Peter
1/13/2013 1:38:13 PM

I believe the term is HORIZONTALISED.

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truthseeker
Jan 13, 2013 1:18 PM

"Governments around the world are being controlled by the bloodline cabal via paedophile
and Satanist politicians and 'leaders' who dare not resist the demands of the Shadow
People who have the evidence that would destroy them. If anyone wants to get out or
refuses to take orders they know the consequences - 'suicide' or exposure."

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Ashraf
Jan 13, 2013 1:16 PM

Another a COURAGES HERO's to perish ..........His CRIME???........stand UP for
Justice!!........ May he rest in peace.........Hope, his inspiration of STOPPING targeted mafia
killing, BE STOPPED!.........May Humanity prevail AGAINST ALL EVILS!

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BB
Jan 13, 2013 12:18 PM

They take out Aaron Swartz and than we have this Alex Jones caracter who has for years
criticised Zionist and US government!! The only conclusion is that AJ is part of the Zionist
group as an war mongeren!

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kayin reply to BB
1/13/2013 11:22:35 PM

Alex Jones was outed by Wikileaks, no? for getting paid by the us gov, no?

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Samin reply to BB
1/13/2013 6:00:30 PM

@BBWhere's your proof for your claims against Alex Jones? Jones is an American patriot. I
admit he gets carried away with his emotions, but he knows his facts. In spite of the
potential risks, he went on national television and schooled Piers Morgan and delivered
information people normally wouldn't hear on CNN (Crap News Network).

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MK Ultrain reply to BB
1/13/2013 4:08:03 PM

Alex Jones and his followers are good for Big Pharma. :)

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Chillin reply to BB
1/13/2013 3:22:28 PM

@BB,Your analysis is correct.A.Jones cleverly mixes some thruths with half-thruths,and
fails to mention inconvinient facts.He makes money selling health products,vitamins etc.His
bosses and sponsors are mostly jewish,he is married to a jew.His mission is to protect the
"chosen ones".

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Mister Jimmyin reply to BB
1/13/2013 2:27:13 PM

Check again. Jones never criticizes Israel. He is an agent provocateur for the Israeli
government.

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Ashrafin reply to BB
1/13/2013 1:38:17 PM

2 BB.......remember McKafee the computer genius was RUNNING for his live a month or so
ago???........ Thinking that American government was after him???......... They probably
suspecting Aaron Schwartz being behind computer hackings of American banks and other
American institutions..........that is why, they want him OUT OF THEIR WAY?........ This is
what i suspect........Alex Jones does seem VERY sincere who know s maybe soon, they
start killing ANY ONE that speaks THEIR MIND too???........It is becoming increasingly the
WILD WILD WEST For American citizens!!!
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Observer
Jan 13, 2013 12:6 PM

My sincere condolences to his family! I am sadden of the murder of this young
,intelligent,and brave gentleman. His murder was committed by Zionist and their affiliates. It
is an order in 21st.century to silent the opposite voices every where in the world. Crimes
under the name of protecting democracy!!

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Hussain
Jan 13, 2013 12:1 PM

They could not poisoned Aaron Swartz like they did to Arifa Karim Randhawa the Microsoft
Geek from Panjab,Pakistan.It looks ... and a quick ruling his death as suicide by Medical
Examiner tells all !

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Gabriel
Jan 13, 2013 11:53 AM

Murderrrrrrr!

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IraQi
Jan 13, 2013 11:3 AM

And boom go his patents and creations

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kongque
Jan 13, 2013 10:42 AM

"If thine eye offends thee pluck it out!" Aaron was a threat to the zionist cult and now he is
not. They will never have qualms about removing those whom they see as problematic to
their end game. The evil that permeates US political circles is bred in New York and its stink
wafts across the whole world from there.

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hpin reply to kongque
1/13/2013 3:49:30 PM

The Yehuda Triangle.New York - London - Tel Aviv

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SINI
Jan 13, 2013 10:29 AM

I thank God Almigthy today that I have eyes with which I can see, Brain in my head , a
Heart in the right place that makes me to feel correctly too. AMERICA, EU, ISRAEL HAS
NO DEMOCRACY NOR FREEDOM OF ANY SPEECH MEDIA. It is all gimmicks. TOO
MUCH DOUBLE STANDARDS & DECEIT. OUTRIGHT MIS-INFORMATION. OBAMA,
GEORGE W. BUSH, TONY BLAIR, NETANYAHU, CIA, MOSSAD have too much blood on
their hands. Of what use are assassination drone attacks in sovereign States? How can a
state claim to pursue world or regional peace through daily 'KILL LIST' of state. THIS IS
LEGALIZED STATE TERRORISM. THESE ARE THE TRUE & FACTUAL TERRORISTS.
Its time the whole world should come together & fight these negative forces fast. These
leaders & politicians are agents of the DEVIL. THEY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE OR
POSITIVE FORESIGHT. ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THEM IN THEIR FREE
SPEECH PLATFORM DIES MYSTERIOUSLY. This is the DECEITFUL WESTERN
WORLD DEMOCRACY. NOT WORTHY OF EXPORTATION TO OTHER LANDS.

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Mjin reply to SINI
1/13/2013 3:49:20 PM

I see how you seem to think Obama is so innocente'

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Traci
Jan 13, 2013 9:36 AM

There is one problem with this conspiracy theory. He never spoke out against the kill list
and actually voted twice for Obama.

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fixfenin reply to Traci
1/13/2013 4:22:08 PM
The article states that he was vocal in his opposition to "kill lists" and other Obama policies.
Traci's comments contradict the article. I am more comfotable believing "PRESSTV" than
believing the annonymous Traci.

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hetiyetiin reply to Traci
1/13/2013 1:27:42 PM

So this young man voted twice for drone em obama, did you know there are millions of
people through out the world who are suffering of a new illness its called regret.

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scottin reply to Traci
1/13/2013 12:18:56 PM

What person on the side of humanity would come out with an answer like yours Traci?
Please just get over this God of yours, he's not who you think he is but an agent of the New
World Order!

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Al Qudsin reply to Traci
1/13/2013 10:09:42 AM

There is not a single mention of the word "theory" anywhere in the NEWS. The bond
between "CONSPIRACY" and theory has been broken and now CONSPIRACY is called
CONSPIRACY without the supporting adjective of "theory" to support zionist agenda.
Secondly, how come you were allowed to witness Mr. Swartz secret ballot?

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Al Quds
Jan 13, 2013 9:24 AM

People like Aaron Swartz do not commit suicide. This has got nwo written all over the case.

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Elinin reply to Al Quds
1/13/2013 3:17:04 PM
You're quite right on this, when people feel committed to the truth, to working for the whole
of humanity to right things which are wrong, they are enlivened, they are energized, and
they choose every day to continue living, encouraging and inspiring others along the way.

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Emm
Jan 13, 2013 8:49 AM

I am impressed to read all the comments from people who will not have the wool pulled over
their eyes any longer.Quite clearly this poor man's death was not of his own hands.More
and more of us are waking daily.Be afraid New World Order, be very afraid.

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Elinin reply to Emm
1/13/2013 3:20:11 PM

Fear debilitates, instead have within yourself a firm commitment to work together with other
like-minded citizens of the world.

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jamshed kharian-pak
Jan 13, 2013 8:29 AM

Blogger & computer prodigy Aaron Swartz was also in the kill list of zionist Obama

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darius178
Jan 13, 2013 8:21 AM

TERRORIST AMERICA is killing people if they practice freedom of speech their first
amendment.

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MOULANA ROOMEE
Jan 13, 2013 8:15 AM

HUMANITY HAS LOST ANOTHER FRIEND BUT AT LAST EVIL SHALL BE UPROOTED.

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djr
Jan 13, 2013 8:0 AM

Is this what they mean by assisted suicide?

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Lamsijanin reply to djr
1/13/2013 8:29:50 AM

This is what they mean by THE FOLLOW-UP OF ADVANCED INTERROGATION.

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game
Jan 13, 2013 7:33 AM

if you know who's behind it all, do the same, it's only way to win this game...

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1malaysia
Jan 13, 2013 7:26 AM

Well Swartz you forgot to check properly that yr name was also in the kill list of pentagon
approved by obama. LOL.This if funny america will kill whoever that talks bad about
the,....... RIP bro.

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Yusuf Ali
Jan 13, 2013 7:17 AM

It appears as though the "kill list" goes far beyond drone strikes. Same thing happened to
the woman in DC was going to expose all those congressmen. She went on (Alex Jones)
show said that she had no plans to kill herself, and next thing you know they found her
hanging in her shed. Hope this man's non-profit continues on with his movement. It's not
every day when such a critical bill is blocked on behalf of a grass roots movement. Rest In
Peace Mr Swartz

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Anonymousin reply to Yusuf Ali
1/13/2013 3:36:19 PM
Lets carry on his movement with The Peace & NonViolence Project…. everyone stay
anonymous though so they can go to hell with ease without being able to target anymore
prodigies that are helping the planet and its inhabitants. TO hell with these evil villains.

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KEVIN HESTER
Jan 13, 2013 7:7 AM

HOW VERY CONVENIENT THAT THIS EXTREMELY TALENTED AND IDEALISTIC
INDIVIDUAL IS NO LONGER A THORN IN THE SIDE OF THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION
AND THEIR ZIONIST ALLIES. HIS PASSING STINKS OF MOSSAD AND THE C.I.A.

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Tim Liederin reply to KEVIN HESTER
1/18/2013 4:11:51 AM

Yeah man. Get your conspiracies straight. And you know that teh Chinese army has
invaded Montana already, right? It's all part of teh Obama administrations plan.

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Mjin reply to KEVIN HESTER
1/13/2013 3:50:17 PM

This administration HATES Israel, they are BOLSHEVIKS, not Zionists

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hasan
Jan 13, 2013 6:35 AM

Its same as Dr.Kelly's dead. They will kill all truth tellers.

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Elinin reply to hasan
1/13/2013 3:23:40 PM

Many are truth tellers, but few are truth tellers in public.

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Gregin reply to hasan
1/13/2013 12:12:51 PM
The demonic nwo poisoned my father slowly over time with arsenic. He was a high ranking
FBI SENIOR AGENT IN CHARGE. He was being considered for the executive director at
one time.When he retired he became a private investigator . he was involved with the Dr
JEFFREY MACDONALD CASE. He became a thorn in the side of the nwo and its practices.
Where drugs stolen children and satanic crimes are found . they are the culprits. The evil
they engage in is the worst of the worst.Their day is coming . The LORD SAYS "
VENGENCE IS MINE I WILL REPAYETH" . THEY WONT LAST MUCH LONGER.

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fatah
Jan 13, 2013 6:21 AM

he was probably murdered but made to look like he suicided.

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Cindyin reply to fatah
1/14/2013 3:28:12 AM

Of course, they murdered him. It is just TOO obvious. It is the way they do things. They are
not very original. Swartz was the genius.

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Stanpevin reply to fatah
1/13/2013 7:02:28 AM

He never took this own life he was murdered, Alex jones will be next, you can not say what
you think in the USA.

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Sofi
Jan 13, 2013 6:10 AM

Rest In Peace to this young American martyr. He has gone the way of many for speaking
the truth

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Sohrabin reply to Sofi
1/13/2013 6:33:47 AM
    By murdering those in the know they cannot kill the truth.These political murders when they
    occure always remiand me of what Emam said 'kill us, (by you killing us) our people will
    awaken even more'

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James Mattis
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                     James N. Mattis




               General James N. Mattis, USMC


                       "Chaos" (Call Sign)
  Nickname             "Warrior Monk"
                       "Mad Dog Mattis"[1]


                        September 8, 1950 (age 62)
  Born
                       Pullman, Washington


  Allegiance               United States of America
                     United States Marine
Service/branch
                 Corps


Years of
                 1972–present
service


Rank                     General


                 U.S. Central Command
                 U.S. Joint Forces
                 Command/Supreme Allied
                 Commander Transformation
                 I Marine Expeditionary Force
Commands         U.S. Marine Forces Central
held             Command
                 Marine Corps Combat
                 Development Command
                 1st Marine Division
                 7th Marine Regiment
                 1st Battalion 7th Marines


                 Operation Desert Storm
                 Operation Enduring Freedom
                 *2001 invasion of Afghanistan
Battles/wars     Operation Iraqi Freedom
                 *2003 invasion of Iraq
                 *Operation Vigilant Resolve
                 *Operation Phantom Fury


                 Defense Distinguished Service
                 Medal (2)
Awards           Navy Distinguished Service
                 Medal
                 Defense Superior Service
                      Medal
                      Legion of Merit
                      Bronze Star with V


James N. Mattis (born September 8, 1950)[2][3] is a United States Marine Corps general and the
current commander of United States Central Command. Having replaced David Petraeus on
August 11, 2010, he previously commanded United States Joint Forces Command from
November 9, 2007 to August 2010 and served concurrently as NATO's Supreme Allied
Commander Transformation from November 9, 2007 to September 8, 2009. Prior to that, he
commanded I Marine Expeditionary Force, United States Marine Forces Central Command, and
1st Marine Division during the Iraq War.[4]


Contents
[hide]

        1 Marine Corps career
        2 Awards & education
        3 Portrayals in media
        4 Quotes
        5 See also
        6 References


[edit] Marine Corps career

Mattis was born in Pullman, Washington, graduated from Richland High School in 1968,
attended Central Washington University[5] and was commissioned a second lieutenant January 1,
1972.[6] As a lieutenant, he served as a rifle and weapons platoon commander in the 3rd Marine
Division. As a captain, he commanded a rifle company and a weapons company in the 1st
Marine Brigade, then Recruiting Station Portland as a major. Promoted to lieutenant colonel, he
commanded 1st Battalion 7th Marines, one of Task Force Ripper's assault battalions in the Gulf
War. As a colonel, he commanded 7th Marine Regiment, then 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade
and Task Force 58 during Operation Enduring Freedom in southern Afghanistan as a brigadier
general. As the commander of TF-58, he became the first Marine to command a Naval Task
Force in combat.[7] As a major general, he commanded the 1st Marine Division during the 2003
invasion of Iraq and subsequent stability operations during the Iraq War. Mattis played a key role
in the April 2004 battle of Fallujah, Operation Vigilant Resolve, by negotiating with the
insurgent command inside of the city, as well as playing an important part in planning the
subsequent Operation Phantom Fury in November.

After being promoted to lieutenant general, Mattis took command of Marine Corps Combat
Development Command. On February 1, 2005, speaking ad libitum at a forum in San Diego, he
said "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they
didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a
lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun
to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." Mattis's remarks sparked
controversy and General Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps, issued a statement
suggesting that Mattis should have chosen his words more carefully, but would not be
disciplined.[8] Following a Pentagon survey that showed only 55% of soldiers and 40% of
Marines would report a colleague for abusing civilians, Mattis told his Marines in May 2007,
“Whenever you show anger or disgust toward civilians, it's a victory for Al Qaeda and other
insurgents.” Reflecting an understanding of the need for restraint in war as key to defeating an
insurgency, he added that, "Every time you wave at an Iraqi civilian, Al Qaeda rolls over in its
grave."[9]




Letter written by Mattis to the 1st Marine Division before the 2003 Iraq War

General Mattis popularized the slogan "no better friend, no worse enemy", (originally coined by
the Roman Sulla as his own epitaph in 78 BC) for his command. This phrase became widely
publicized during the investigation into the conduct of Lieutenant Ilario Pantano, a platoon
commander serving under General Mattis.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16]

The Pentagon announced on May 31, 2006 that LtGen Mattis was chosen to take command of I
Marine Expeditionary Force, based out of Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton.[17] On 11
September 2007, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced that President George W. Bush
had nominated Mattis for appointment to the rank of general to command U.S. Joint Forces
Command in Norfolk, Virginia. NATO agreed to appoint Mattis as Supreme Allied Commander
Transformation. On 28 September 2007, the United States Senate confirmed Mattis's
nomination, and he relinquished command of I MEF on 5 November 2007 to LtGen Samuel
Helland. Mattis was promoted to four-star general and took control of JFCOM/SACT on 9
November 2007. He transferred the job of SACT to French General Stéphane Abrial on 9
September 2009, but continued in command of JFCOM.[18]
Early in 2010 Mattis' name was reported on the list of Marine Generals being considered for
selection to replace James T. Conway as Commandant.[19] In July, he was recommended by
Defense Secretary Robert Gates for nomination to replace David Petraeus as commander of
United States Central Command,[20] and formally nominated by President Barack Obama on July
21.[21] His confirmation by the Senate Armed Services Committee on August 5 marks the first
time that Marines have held billets as commander and deputy commander of a Unified
Combatant Command.[22] He took command at a ceremony at MacDill Air Force Base on August
11.[23][24][25]

[edit] Awards & education
                           Defense
                                              Navy
 First                     Distinguished
                                              Distinguished
 row                       Service Medal w/ 1
                                              Service Medal
                           oak leaf cluster

                                                              Meritorious
Second Defense Superior                        Bronze Star w/
                           Legion of Merit                    Service Medal w/
 row Service Medal                             valor device
                                                              2 award stars

       Navy and Marine
 Third Corps               Combat Action       Presidential    Joint Meritorious
  row Achievement          Ribbon              Unit Citation   Unit Award
       Medal
                                                                                     Office of the
                           Navy and Marine                                           Secretary of
                                               Marine Corps    National Defense
Fourth Navy Unit           Corps Meritorious                                           Defense
                                               Expeditionary   Service Medal w/
 row Commendation          Unit                                                     Identification
                                               Medal           2 service stars
                           Commendation                                                 Badge

                                                               Global War on
         Southwest Asia
 Fifth                    Afghanistan          Iraq Campaign   Terrorism
         Service Medal w/
 row                      Campaign Medal       Medal           Expeditionary
         2 service stars
                                                               Medal

                                                               Marine Corps
         Global War on                         Sea Service
 Sixth                     Humanitarian                        Recruiting Service
         Terrorism Service                     Ribbon w/ 7
 row                       Service Medal                       Ribbon w/ 1
         Medal                                 service stars
                                                               service star

Seventh NATO Meritorious NATO Medal for        Kuwait          Kuwait Liberation
                    [26]                  [26] Liberation
  Row Service Medal      Service with ISAF                     Medal (Kuwait)
                                               Medal (Saudi
                                                       Arabia)


Mattis holds 4 expert rifle and 2 expert pistol badges. He is a graduate of the Marine Corps
Amphibious Warfare School, Marine Corps Command and Staff College, and the National War
College.

[edit] Portrayals in media

General James Mattis is portrayed by Robert John Burke in the HBO miniseries Generation
Kill.[27]

[edit] Quotes

           Wikiquote has a collection of quotations related to: James Mattis



James Mattis is noted for many memorable phrases. Some examples:

Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right
upfront with you, I like brawling.... You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for
five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So
it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them.

—James Mattis, Speech in San Diego, 2005[28]

I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with
me, I'll kill you all.

—James Mattis, Message to the Iraqi leaders[29]

[edit] See also

          Wikimedia Commons has media related to: James N. Mattis


        United States Marine Corps portal



         List of United States Marine Corps four-star generals

[edit] References

  This article incorporates public domain material from websites or documents of the United
States Marine Corps.
Notes

   1. ^ Boot, Max (March 2006). "The Corps should look to its small-wars past". Armed Forces Journal.
       http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/03/1813950. Retrieved 2007-06-12.
   2. ^ "You searched: James Mattis 19500908". Public Background Checks.
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Report: Obama Ousting CENTCOM Chief Mattis




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BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
January 20, 2013 2:49 pm

“Word on the national security street is that General James Mattis is being given the bum’s rush out
of his job as commander of Central Command, and is being told to vacate his office several months
earlier than planned,” reports veteran national security correspondent Thomas E. Ricks.
It now appears likely that Gen. Mattis, a Marine Corps legend, will leave his post as head of
America’s most important combatant command in March, several months earlier than planned. Ricks
continues:

Why the hurry? Pentagon insiders say that he rubbed civilian officials the wrong way — not because
he went all “mad dog,” which is his public image, and the view at the White House, but rather
because he pushed the civilians so hard on considering the second- and third-order consequences
of military action against Iran. Some of those questions apparently were uncomfortable. Like, what
do you do with Iran once the nuclear issue is resolved and it remains a foe? What do you do if Iran
then develops conventional capabilities that could make it hazardous for U.S. Navy ships to operate
in the Persian Gulf? He kept saying, “And then what?

Inquiry along these lines apparently was not welcomed — at least in the CENTCOM view. The White
House view, apparently, is that Mattis was too hawkish, which is not something I believe, having
seen him in the field over the years. I’d call him a tough-minded realist, someone who’d rather have
tea with you than shoot you, but is happy to end the conversation either way.

The reported departure will have consequences for U.S.-Iranian relations, civil-military relations,
Marine Corps morale, and inter-service politics, Ricks writes. “I am at the point where I don’t trust his
national security team,” he adds. “They strike me as politicized, defensive and narrow. These are
people who will not recognize it when they screw up, and will treat as enemies anyone who tells
them they are doing that. And that is how things like Vietnam get repeated. Harsh words, I know. But
I am worried.”

Obama is expected to pursue a diplomatic resolution to the Iranian nuclear program this year.

Evidence of Iranian entanglement in Iraq, low-intensity conflict zones in Africa and the Middle East,
the Syrian civil war, Afghanistan, and in international terrorism continues to mount.

More from Ricks on the Mattis controversy here.


This entry was posted in Middle East, National Security, Obama Administration and tagged Barack Obama,

CENTCOM, Iran, James Mattis. Bookmark the permalink.

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Thomas E. Ricks (journalist)
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                     Thomas E. Ricks




         Ricks in 2007, posing with his book Fiasco


              Thomas Edwin Ricks
Born          September 25, 1955 (age 57)
              Beverly, Massachusetts, United States


Nationality       United States


Education     B.A.


Alma mater Yale University, 1977


Occupation Writer, journalist, editor, and educator


Employer      Center for a New American Security


              critique of U.S. national security policy,
Known for
              especially Operation Iraqi Freedom


Title         Senior Fellow


              2000 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting (on
              Wall Street Journal team) for articles on how
Awards
              the U.S. Military might change to meet
              twenty-first century demands
                 2002 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting (on
                 Washington Post team) for reporting about
                 the beginnings of the U.S. counteroffensive
                 against terrorism
                 Society of Professional Journalists Award for
                 best feature reporting.
                 2007 Distinguished alumnus of Scarsdale
                 High School


  Notes
  [1][2][3][4]




Thomas Edwin 'Tom' Ricks (born September 25, 1955)[5] is an American journalist who writes
on defense topics. He is a Pulitzer Prize-winning former reporter for the Wall Street Journal and
Washington Post. He writes a blog at ForeignPolicy.com[6] and is a member of the Center for a
New American Security,[7] a defense policy think tank.

He lectures widely to the military and is a member of Harvard University's Senior Advisory
Council on the Project on U.S. Civil-Military Relations. He has reported on military activities in
Somalia, Haiti, Korea, Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Kuwait, Turkey, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
Ricks is author of the bestselling book Fiasco: The American Military Adventure In Iraq, its
follow-up The Gamble: General David Petraeus and the American Military Adventure in Iraq,
2006-2008, Making the Corps, The Generals: American Military Command from World War II
to Today,and the novel A Soldier's Duty.[8]
Contents
[hide]

        1 Life and career
        2 Bibliography
              o 2.1 Ricks' writings
              o 2.2 Writings about Ricks
              o 2.3 Interviews
        3 References
        4 External link


[edit] Life and career

Ricks grew up in New York and Afghanistan, one of six children of a professor of psychology.
He attended the American International School in Kabul (1968–1970), including his freshman
year of high school.[9] He graduated from Scarsdale High School (1973).[4]

After earning a degree at Yale (1977), he was an instructor at Lingnan College, Hong Kong
(1977–1979), and assistant editor at the Wilson Quarterly (1979–1981). At the Wall Street
Journal he was a reporter (1982–1985) and deputy Miami bureau chief (1986). In Washington,
D.C., he was a Journal reporter (1987–1989), feature editor (1989–1992), and Pentagon
correspondent, (1992–1999). He was a military correspondent at the Washington Post (2000–
2008).[1][2][5] [10]

While at the Wall Street Journal, he was one of the reporters writing the "Price of Power" series
discussing United States defense spending and potential changes confronting the US military
following the Cold War. The series won the Journal the 2000 Pulitzer Prize for National
Reporting.[10] Ricks was a finalist for the 2007 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction for his
book Fiasco.[11]

While being interviewed on Fox News by Jon Scott regarding the 2012 Benghazi attack, Ricks
accused Fox News of being "extremely political" in its coverage of the attack and said that "Fox
was operating as a wing of the Republican Party." The interview was subsequently cut short after
only 90 seconds.[12]

[edit] Bibliography
[edit] Ricks' writings

        The Gamble: General David Petraeus and the American Military Adventure in Iraq, 2006-2008.
         Penguin Press. February 10, 2009. ISBN 1-59420-197-8.
        Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq. Penguin. 2006. ISBN 0-14-303891-5.
        A Soldier's Duty: A Novel. Random House. 2001. ISBN 0-375-50544-X.
        Making the Corps. Scribner. 1997. ISBN 0-684-83109-0.
      The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today. Penguin Press. 2012.
       ISBN 1594204047.
      "On American Soil: the Widening Gap between the U.S. Military and U.S. Society". Project on
       U.S. Post Cold-War Civil-Military Relations (John M. Olin Institute for Strategic Studies, Harvard
       University). May 1996.
       http://www.wcfia.harvard.edu/olin/publications/workingpapers/civil_military/no3.htm.
      Contributor to the Atlantic Monthly and other periodicals

[edit] Writings about Ricks

      Booklist, October 15, 1997, Gilbert Taylor, review of Making the Corps, p. 368; May 1, 2001,
       Gilbert Taylor, review of A Soldier's Duty, p. 1668.
      The Economist, August 19, 2006, "A Litany of Abuse: America and Iraq," review of Fiasco: The
       American Military Adventure in Iraq, p. 71.http://www.economist.com/node/7791940
      Harvard Crimson Review of Fiasco [1]
      Insight on the News, December 15, 1997, Woody West, review of Making the Corps, p. 36.
      Library Journal, May 1, 2001, Robert Conroy, review of A Soldier's Duty, p. 127.
      Fred Rhodes (November 1, 2006). "Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq.(Brief
       article)(Book review)" (Fee). The Middle East: p. 64.
      Middle East Policy, winter, 2006, W. Patrick Lang, review of Fiasco, p. 154.
      Military Review, September–October, 2006, Brian C. McNemey, review of Fiasco, p. 115.
      National Review, September 11, 2006, Bing West, "Iraq: Phase One," review of Fiasco, p. 42.
      New York Times, July 25, 2006, Michiko Kakutani, "From Planning to Warfare to Occupation,
       How Iraq Went Wrong," review of Fiasco, p. E1. [2]
      New York Times Book Review, August 13, 2006, Jacob Heilbrunn, "Eyes Wide Shut," review of
       Fiasco, p. 1, and Dwight Garner, "TBR: Inside the List," review of Fiasco, p. 1; December 3, 2006,
       "100 Notable Books of the Year," review of Fiasco, p. 14.
      Cook, Martin L. (Autumn 2001). "review of A Soldier's Duty". Parameters (U.S. Army War
       College) XXXI (3): 173. http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/01autumn/Aut-rev.htm.
       Retrieved 2009-12-01.
      Policy Review, December, 2006, Victor Davis Hanson, "Whose Fiasco?," review of Fiasco, p. 89.
      Publishers Weekly, October 6, 1997, review of Making the Corps, p. 65; April 20, 2001, review of
       A Soldier's Duty, p. 53.
      TIME, December 25, 2006, Steve Koepp and Mark Thompson, "The Real War," interview with
       Thomas E. Ricks, p. 158.
      Washington Monthly, October, 2006, Joseph Galloway, review of Fiasco, p. 60; March, 2007,
       review of Fiasco, p. 66.
      Weekly Standard, August 7, 2006, Max Boot, "Battle for Baghdad: Lessons Learned from the War
       in Iraq," review of Fiasco.

[edit] Interviews

      Frontline Web site, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ (January 28, 2004), interview
       with Thomas E. Ricks.
      Washington Post Web site, http://projects.washingtonpost.com/ (April 15, 2007), biography of
       Thomas E. Ricks.
      Ricks, Tom (2009-12-01). C-SPAN Video Player - Thomas Ricks, Center for a New American
       Security, Senior Fellow (Television production). Washington, D.C.: C-SPAN. http://www.c-
       span.org/Watch/Media/2009/12/01/HP/A/26644/Thomas+Ricks+Center+for+a+New+American
       +Security+Senior+Fellow.aspx. Retrieved 2009-12-01.

[edit] References

   1. ^ a b Contemporary Authors Online, Gale, 2009. Reproduced in Biography Resource Center.
       Farmington Hills, Michigan: Gale, 2009. http://galenet.galegroup.com/servlet/BioRC. Document
       Number: H1000132733. Fee. Accessed 2009-12-01 via Fairfax County Public Library.
   2. ^ a b Medak-Seguin, Becquer (April 2, 2009). "Pulitzer Prize winner Thomas Ricks on campus".
       Pioneer (Walla Walla, Washington: Whitman College).
       http://whitmanpioneer.com/news/events/2009/04/02/pulitzer-prize-winner-thomas-ricks-on-
       campus/. Retrieved 2009-12-01.
   3. ^ "Anne Ricks Is Engaged". New York Times. February 13, 1983.
       http://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/13/style/anne-ricks-is-engaged.html. Retrieved 2009-12-01.
       "Miss Ricks, a senior at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine, attended the American
       International School in Kabul, Afghanistan, and graduated from the University of Michigan. ...
       The bride-to-be is a granddaughter of the late Richard Manning Russell, Mayor of Cambridge,
       Mass., and a great-granddaughter of William Eustis Russell, Mayor of Cambridge and Governor
       of Massachusetts"
   4. ^ a b "Scarsdale Alumni Association - Distinguished Alumni". Scarsdale Alumni Association, Inc..
       http://scarsdalealumni.org/s/1067/index.aspx?sid=1067&gid=1&pgid=294. Retrieved 2009-12-
       02. "2007 Distinguished Alumni ... TOM RICKS ’73 – JOURNALIST"
   5. ^ a b "Tom Ricks". Washington Post.
       http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/articles/thomas+e.+ricks/. Retrieved 2008-03-18.
       "Born in Massachusetts in 1955, he grew up in New York and Afghanistan and graduated from
       Yale in 1977."
   6. ^ http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/ Ricks' current blog at ForeignPolicy.com
   7. ^ "Thomas E. Ricks". Washington, D.C.: Center for a New American Security.
       http://www.cnas.org/node/650. Retrieved 2009-12-01. CNAS biography}}
   8. ^ "Thomas E. Ricks". New York, NY: Penguin Speakers Bureau.
       http://penguinspeakersbureau.com/speaker/76. Retrieved 2009-12-03.
   9. ^ "5 Years Ago This Month at aisk.org". AISK - American International School of Kabul. May 18,
       2006. http://www.aisk.org/aisk/portal200605.php. Retrieved 2009-12-02. "Tom Ricks (1968-70),
       a Scorpion"
   10. ^ a b Contemporary Authors Online, Gale, 2009. Reproduced in Biography Resource Center.
       Farmington Hills, Mich.: Gale, 2009. http://galenet.galegroup.com/servlet/BioRC. Document
       Number: H1000082835. Fee. Accessed 2009-12-01 via Fairfax County Public Library.
   11. ^ http://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/2007
   12. ^ http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/tom-ricks-to-fox-news-the-network-operates-
       as-a-wing-150296.html

[edit] External link

      Foreign Policy bio
                              WorldCat
  Authority control           VIAF: 65756810
                              LCCN: n97056222


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of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza -- are beginning to show declines,
indicators that reflect severity are now rising. It’s typical for severity indicators to lag a few
weeks behind early activity indicators. This week, a high proportion of influenza-associated
hospitalizations and deaths are occurring in people 65 and older. Seasons when H3N2 viruses are
predominant tend to be associated with greater severity in terms of more hospitalizations and
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Below is a summary of the key indicators:

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      Thirty states and New York City are now reporting high ILI activity; an increase from 24 states
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season can be found on the current FluView webpage.

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Flu Deaths in U.S. Rise Past Epidemic
Levels, CDC Says
By Shannon Pettypiece - Jan 18, 2013 12:26 PM MT
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The worst U.S. flu season since 2009 intensified last week, killing hundreds more people as
the viral epidemic spread to additional states, health officials said.

About 8.3 percent of all deaths nationwide were due to theflu and pneumonia for the week
ended Jan. 12, more than the 7.3 percent level for an epidemic, the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention said today. About 90 percent of those deaths are people older than
age 65, who are being hit particularly hard by this year’s flu strain, the Atlanta-based agency
said.

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The flu season, which has now been at epidemic levels for two straight weeks, may result in
36,000 deaths, said William Schaffner, chairman of the department of preventive medicine
at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville,Tennessee. Infections will likely
persist through February and March though cases may have peaked in some regions,
including the East Coast and Southeast, he said.

“We are right in the middle,” Schaffner said in a telephone interview. “Influenza just doesn’t
turn off like a light switch. It may be that in many part of the country it has plateaued and
we are seeing some downturns. But we are continuing to see patients hospitalized.”

The outbreak is widespread in 48 states with 30 seeing high levels, the CDC said today.
Cases are starting to increase on the West Coast, which hadn’t been hit as severely as the
Midwest and eastern states, the agency said. From Dec. 3 through Jan. 12, there have been
5,643 deaths from flu and pneumonia, which is often caused by the flu, the CDC data show.

Finding Vaccines

CVS Caremark Corp. (CVS) and Rite Aid Corp. (RAD), two of the largest U.S. drugstore
chains, said they are working to restock flu vaccines as a rush of consumers seeking the
immunization depletes supply. Rite Aid said yesterday it obtained an extra 400,000 doses
of the vaccine that began arriving in stores this week. While the Food and Drug
Administration confirmed there are spot shortages, the agency said there isn’t a widespread
lack of supply and people should be able to find flu shots if they go to multiple drugstores
and clinics.

“We cannot increase the actual production of vaccine for this current flu season,” FDA
Commissioner Margaret Hamburg said today on a conference call with reporters. “But there
is a lot of reason to believe vaccine is out there and not getting to the people who need it.”

Vaccine makers are expected to produce 145 million doses for the current flu season, more
than initially projected, Hamburg said. During a typical season, 1 million doses a day are
given to patients.

Insect Virus

Possibly helping the supply was the FDA’s approval Jan. 16 of one company’s more efficient
way to make the flu vaccine, which typically takes about six months to produce. Protein
Sciences Corp., based in Meriden, Connecticut, won clearance for FluBlok, which the closely
held company said can be produced in less than two months by inserting flu genes into an
insect virus and then growing the active protein for the immunization.

The product is intended to help move away from the 50-year-old technique of growing the
vaccine in chicken eggs, a process that has been blamed for delays in reacting to
unanticipated flu outbreaks.

Health officials were caught off-guard last month when the flu season started earlier than in
past years. Among this season’s deaths, 29 have been children. There were nine pediatric
deaths in the week ended Jan. 12, a 45 percent increase from the previous week, according
to the CDC.

To contact the reporter on this story: Shannon Pettypiece in New York at
spettypiece@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Reg Gale at rgale5@bloomberg.net

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-18/flu-related-deaths-rise-above-epidemic-levels-
in-the-u-s-.html




Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial
GMO Crops
January 21, 2013Biotechnology, Commentaries67 Comments

by Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson

How should a regulatory agency announce they have discovered something potentially very
important about the safety of products they have been approving for over twenty years?

In the course of analysis to identify potential allergens in GMO crops, the European Food Safety
Authority (EFSA) has belatedly discovered that the most common genetic regulatory sequence in
commercial GMOs also encodes a significant fragment of a viral gene (Podevin and du Jardin
2012). This finding has serious ramifications for crop biotechnology and its regulation, but
possibly even greater ones for consumers and farmers. This is because there are clear indications
that this viral gene (called Gene VI) might not be safe for human consumption. It also may
disturb the normal functioning of crops, including their natural pest resistance.




Cauliflower Mosaic Virus

What Podevin and du Jardin discovered is that of the 86 different transgenic events (unique
insertions of foreign DNA) commercialized to-date in the United States 54 contain portions of
Gene VI within them. They include any with a widely used gene regulatory sequence called the
CaMV 35S promoter (from the cauliflower mosaic virus; CaMV). Among the affected transgenic
events are some of the most widely grown GMOs, including Roundup Ready soybeans (40-3-2)
and MON810 maize. They include the controversial NK603 maize recently reported as causing
tumors in rats (Seralini et al. 2012).

The researchers themselves concluded that the presence of segments of Gene VI “might result in
unintended phenotypic changes”. They reached this conclusion because similar fragments of
Gene VI have already been shown to be active on their own (e.g. De Tapia et al. 1993). In other
words, the EFSA researchers were unable to rule out a hazard to public health or the
environment.

In general, viral genes expressed in plants raise both agronomic and human health concerns
(reviewed in Latham and Wilson 2008). This is because many viral genes function to disable
their host in order to facilitate pathogen invasion. Often, this is achieved by incapacitating
specific anti-pathogen defenses. Incorporating such genes could clearly lead to undesirable and
unexpected outcomes in agriculture. Furthermore, viruses that infect plants are often not that
different from viruses that infect humans. For example, sometimes the genes of human and plant
viruses are interchangeable, while on other occasions inserting plant viral fragments as
transgenes has caused the genetically altered plant to become susceptible to an animal virus
(Dasgupta et al. 2001). Thus, in various ways, inserting viral genes accidentally into crop plants
and the food supply confers a significant potential for harm.

The Choices for Regulators
The original discovery by Podevin and du Jardin (at EFSA) of Gene VI in commercial GMO
crops must have presented regulators with sharply divergent procedural alternatives. They could
1) recall all CaMV Gene VI-containing crops (in Europe that would mean revoking importation
and planting approvals) or, 2) undertake a retrospective risk assessment of the CaMV promoter
and its Gene VI sequences and hope to give it a clean bill of health.

It is easy to see the attraction for EFSA of option two. Recall would be a massive political and
financial decision and would also be a huge embarrassment to the regulators themselves. It
would leave very few GMO crops on the market and might even mean the end of crop
biotechnology.

Regulators, in principle at least, also have a third option to gauge the seriousness of any potential
GMO hazard. GMO monitoring, which is required by EU regulations, ought to allow them to
find out if deaths, illnesses, or crop failures have been reported by farmers or health officials and
can be correlated with the Gene VI sequence. Unfortunately, this particular avenue of enquiry is
a scientific dead end. Not one country has carried through on promises to officially and
scientifically monitor any hazardous consequences of GMOs (1).

Unsurprisingly, EFSA chose option two. However, their investigation resulted only in the vague
and unreassuring conclusion that Gene VI “might result in unintended phenotypic changes”
(Podevin and du Jardin 2012). This means literally, that changes of an unknown number, nature,
or magnitude may (or may not) occur. It falls well short of the solid scientific reassurance of
public safety needed to explain why EFSA has not ordered a recall.

Can the presence of a fragment of virus DNA really be that significant? Below is an independent
analysis of Gene VI and its known properties and their safety implications. This analysis clearly
illustrates the regulators’ dilemma.

The Many Functions of Gene VI
Gene VI, like most plant viral genes, produces a protein that is multifunctional. It has four (so
far) known roles in the viral infection cycle. The first is to participate in the assembly of virus
particles. There is no current data to suggest this function has any implications for biosafety. The
second known function is to suppress anti-pathogen defenses by inhibiting a general cellular
system called RNA silencing (Haas et al. 2008). Thirdly, Gene VI has the highly unusual
function of transactivating (described below) the long RNA (the 35S RNA) produced by CaMV
(Park et al. 2001). Fourthly, unconnected to these other mechanisms, Gene VI has very recently
been shown to make plants highly susceptible to a bacterial pathogen (Love et al. 2012). Gene VI
does this by interfering with a common anti-pathogen defense mechanism possessed by plants.
These latter three functions of Gene VI (and their risk implications) are explained further below:

1) Gene VI Is an Inhibitor of RNA Silencing
RNA silencing is a mechanism for the control of gene expression at the level of RNA abundance
(Bartel 2004). It is also an important antiviral defense mechanism in both plants and animals, and
therefore most viruses have evolved genes (like Gene VI) that disable it (Dunoyer and Voinnet
2006).
Gene VI (upper left) precedes the start of the 35S RNA

This attribute of Gene VI raises two obvious biosafety concerns: 1) Gene VI will lead to aberrant
gene expression in GMO crop plants, with unknown consequences and, 2) Gene VI will interfere
with the ability of plants to defend themselves against viral pathogens. There are numerous
experiments showing that, in general, viral proteins that disable gene silencing enhance infection
by a wide spectrum of viruses (Latham and Wilson 2008).

2) Gene VI Is a Unique Transactivator of Gene Expression
Multicellular organisms make proteins by a mechanism in which only one protein is produced by
each passage of a ribosome along a messenger RNA (mRNA). Once that protein is completed the
ribosome dissociates from the mRNA. However, in a CaMV-infected plant cell, or as a
transgene, Gene VI intervenes in this process and directs the ribosome to get back on an mRNA
(reinitiate) and produce the next protein in line on the mRNA, if there is one. This property of
Gene VI enables Cauliflower Mosaic Virus to produce multiple proteins from a single long RNA
(the 35S RNA). Importantly, this function of Gene VI (which is called transactivation) is not
limited to the 35S RNA. Gene VI seems able to transactivate any cellular mRNA (Futterer and
Hohn 1991; Ryabova et al. 2002). There are likely to be thousands of mRNA molecules having a
short or long protein coding sequence following the primary one. These secondary coding
sequences could be expressed in cells where Gene VI is expressed. The result will presumably be
production of numerous random proteins within cells. The biosafety implications of this are
difficult to assess. These proteins could be allergens, plant or human toxins, or they could be
harmless. Moreover, the answer will differ for each commercial crop species into which Gene VI
has been inserted.

3) Gene VI Interferes with Host Defenses
A very recent finding, not known by Podevin and du Jardin, is that Gene VI has a second
mechanism by which it interferes with plant anti-pathogen defenses (Love et al. 2012). It is too
early to be sure about the mechanistic details, but the result is to make plants carrying Gene VI
more susceptible to certain pathogens, and less susceptible to others. Obviously, this could
impact farmers, however the discovery of an entirely new function for gene VI while EFSA’s
paper was in press, also makes clear that a full appraisal of all the likely effects of Gene VI is not
currently achievable.

Is There a Direct Human Toxicity Issue?
When Gene VI is intentionally expressed in transgenic plants, it causes them to become chlorotic
(yellow), to have growth deformities, and to have reduced fertility in a dose-dependent manner
(Ziljstra et al 1996). Plants expressing Gene VI also show gene expression abnormalities. These
results indicate that, not unexpectedly given its known functions, the protein produced by Gene
VI is functioning as a toxin and is harmful to plants (Takahashi et al 1989). Since the known
targets of Gene VI activity (ribosomes and gene silencing) are also found in human cells, a
reasonable concern is that the protein produced by Gene VI might be a human toxin. This is a
question that can only be answered by future experiments.

Is Gene VI Protein Produced in GMO Crops?
Given that expression of Gene VI is likely to cause harm, a crucial issue is whether the actual
inserted transgene sequences found in commercial GMO crops will produce any functional
protein from the fragment of Gene VI present within the CaMV sequence.

There are two aspects to this question. One is the length of Gene VI accidentally introduced by
developers. This appears to vary but most of the 54 approved transgenes contain the same 528
base pairs of the CaMV 35S promoter sequence. This corresponds to approximately the final
third of Gene VI. Deleted fragments of Gene VI are active when expressed in plant cells and
functions of Gene VI are believed to reside in this final third. Therefore, there is clear potential
for unintended effects if this fragment is expressed (e.g. De Tapia et al. 1993; Ryabova et al.
2002; Kobayashi and Hohn 2003).

The second aspect of this question is what quantity of Gene VI could be produced in GMO
crops? Once again, this can ultimately only be resolved by direct quantitative experiments.
Nevertheless, we can theorize that the amount of Gene VI produced will be specific to each
independent insertion event. This is because significant Gene VI expression probably would
require specific sequences (such as the presence of a gene promoter and an ATG [a protein start
codon]) to precede it and so is likely to be heavily dependent on variables such as the details of
the inserted transgenic DNA and where in the plant genome the transgene inserted.

Commercial transgenic crop varieties can also contain superfluous copies of the transgene,
including those that are incomplete or rearranged (Wilson et al 2006). These could be important
additional sources of Gene VI protein. The decision of regulators to allow such multiple and
complex insertion events was always highly questionable, but the realization that the CaMV 35S
promoter contains Gene VI sequences provides yet another reason to believe that complex
insertion events increase the likelihood of a biosafety problem.

Even direct quantitative measurements of Gene VI protein in individual crop authorizations
would not fully resolve the scientific questions, however. No-one knows, for example, what
quantity, location or timing of protein production would be of significance for risk assessment,
and so answers necessary to perform science-based risk assessment are unlikely to emerge soon.

Big Lessons for Biotechnology
It is perhaps the most basic assumption in all of risk assessment that the developer of a new
product provides regulators with accurate information about what is being assessed. Perhaps the
next most basic assumption is that regulators independently verify this information. We now
know, however, that for over twenty years neither of those simple expectations have been met.
Major public universities, biotech multinationals, and government regulators everywhere,
seemingly did not appreciate the relatively simple possibility that the DNA constructs they were
responsible for encoded a viral gene.

This lapse occurred despite the fact that Gene VI was not truly hidden; the relevant information
on the existence of Gene VI has been freely available in the scientific literature since well before
the first biotech approval (Franck et al 1980). We ourselves have offered specific warnings that
viral sequences could contain unsuspected genes (Latham and Wilson 2008). The inability of risk
assessment processes to incorporate longstanding and repeated scientific findings is every bit as
worrysome as the failure to intellectually anticipate the possibility of overlapping genes when
manipulating viral sequences.

This sense of a generic failure is reinforced by the fact that this is not an isolated event. There
exist other examples of commercially approved viral sequences having overlapping genes that
were never subjected to risk assessment. These include numerous commercial GMOs containing
promoter regions of the closely related virus figwort mosaic virus (FMV) which were not
considered by Podevin and du Jardin. Inspection of commercial sequence data shows that the
commonly used FMV promoter overlaps its own Gene VI (Richins et al 1987). A third example
is the virus-resistant potato NewLeaf Plus (RBMT-22-82). This transgene contains
approximately 90% of the P0 gene of potato leaf roll virus. The known function of this gene,
whose existence was discovered only after US approval, is to inhibit the anti-pathogen defenses
of its host (Pfeffer et al 2002). Fortunately, this potato variety was never actively marketed.

A further key point relates to the biotech industry and their campaign to secure public approval
and a permissive regulatory environment. This has led them to repeatedly claim, firstly, that
GMO technology is precise and predictable; and secondly, that their own competence and self-
interest would prevent them from ever bringing potentially harmful products to the market; and
thirdly, to assert that only well studied and fully understood transgenes are commercialized. It is
hard to imagine a finding more damaging to these claims than the revelations surrounding Gene
VI.

Biotechnology, it is often forgotten, is not just a technology. It is an experiment in the
proposition that human institutions can perform adequate risk assessments on novel living
organisms. Rather than treat that question as primarily a daunting scientific one, we should for
now consider that the primary obstacle will be overcoming the much more mundane trap of
human complacency and incompetence. We are not there yet, and therefore this incident will
serve to reinforce the demands for GMO labeling in places where it is absent.

What Regulators Should Do Now
This summary of the scientific risk issues shows that a segment of a poorly characterized viral
gene never subjected to any risk assessment (until now) was allowed onto the market. This gene
is currently present in commercial crops and growing on a large scale. It is also widespread in the
food supply.

Even now that EFSA’s own researchers have belatedly considered the risk issues, no one can say
whether the public has been harmed, though harm appears a clear scientific possibility.
Considered from the perspective of professional and scientific risk assessment, this situation
represents a complete and catastrophic system failure.

But the saga of Gene VI is not yet over. There is no certainty that further scientific analysis will
resolve the remaining uncertainties, or provide reassurance. Future research may in fact increase
the level of concern or uncertainty, and this is a possibility that regulators should weigh heavily
in their deliberations.

To return to the original choices before EFSA, these were either to recall all CaMV 35S
promoter-containing GMOs, or to perform a retrospective risk assessment. This retrospective
risk assessment has now been carried out and the data clearly indicate a potential for significant
harm. The only course of action consistent with protecting the public and respecting the science
is for EFSA, and other jurisdictions, to order a total recall. This recall should also include GMOs
containing the FMV promoter and its own overlapping Gene VI.

Footnotes
1) EFSA regulators might now be regretting their failure to implement meaningful GMO
monitoring. It would be a good question for European politicians to ask EFSA and for the board
of EFSA to ask the GMO panel, whose job it is to implement monitoring.

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   1.           Madeleine Love says:

        January 21, 2013 at 4:01 am

        This is something new. I’ve gone into the Monsanto application material they gave to
        Food Standards Australia New Zealand for their GM canola crop, just because I know
        this set of material best. GM canola has two figwort mosaic virus-related promoters.
        When describing their P-CMoVb promoter, they referenced Gowda et al (1989), Richins
        et al (1987), Sanger et al (1990). I’ve looked at Richins. It’s absolutely clear that the
        FMV sequences overlap. If they took material upstream of the promoter they must know
        they were using sequences from a viral gene. How much of Gene VI would be included?
        Monsanto didn’t seem to report the size of these promoters in the original material. They
        sent additional material in 2002, saying each promoter was 580 bp long. But then I read
        an EFSA report “Application for renewal of the authorisation for continued marketing of
        existing food additives, feed materials and feed additives produced from GT73 oilseed
        rape…” that listed one of the promoters at 564bp and 680bp. Very close examination of
        the plant transformation plasmid drawings in the Monsanto material does suggest these
        different lengths. Different lengths usually mean something’s broken in the process.
        Looking at the earlier shuttle drawings indicates promoters of about 1100bp, much like
        Sanger described. More to find out here.

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           o            Madeleine Love says:

                January 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

                I was wondering why Figwort Mosaic Virus Gene VI sequence (M59930) on
                pubmed Nucleotide was so different to the GeneVI designation in the Richins
                genome (NC_003554) – have since seen studies on the adaptation of Gene VI to
                its host. Wondering if or how much the actual promoter sequence would mutate in
                plant.

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                              Gavin Venn says:

                        January 24, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Hi Madeline,

The mutation of the fragment of gene VI, and any resulting new proteins
in the novel transgenic plant: we don’t know what effects they have
because we’re not looking for them?

Please can you also explain why these effects may be different to the
effects of the full gene in broccoli for example?

Thanks.

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              Madeleine Love says:

        January 25, 2013 at 1:47 am

        Second question first…

        Individuals or organisations arguing against concerns related to
        this discovery may say or write statements to the effect that
        humans have been consuming the cauliflower mosaic virus in food
        over some time, giving an example of a cruciferous crop such as
        broccoli, saying there hasn’t been a measured ill-effect in relation
        to the virus. They may put a halo on the viral material by saying it
        comes from nature and describing the broccoli as ‘heritage
        organic’. I haven’t read into the area of health effects on humans of
        the virus in natural state, but for the sake of argument I’ll assume
        this claim is true, noting that an ill-effect may yet to be identified.

        I’m a science graduate with some post grad subjects in actuarial
        science. I’ve been reading into the science and regulation of the
        GM food and crops issue for about five years. Even with what I
        understand so far, analogies drawn between the CaMV products in
        an infected heritage organic broccoli and whatever construct
        finally ends up in a GM plant are demonstrably false. I see them as
        red herrings.

        The first point that needs clarification is your phrase “the full
        gene” – this phrase implicitly carries an assumption that the
        CaMV-related genetic material in, for example, a GM sweet corn
        is the same as in CaMV infected heritage broccoli, except for being
        shorter.
Firstly there tend to be many strains of these viruses with differing
genetic material.

Second, the genetic material actually used in the plant may not be
material that was sourced from the halo’d nature. The orginal
genetic material may be sourced from viruses reared or discovered
on hosts in breeding laboratories, as was the case for the code for
the Cry1Ab-related proteins in many GM insecticidal crops.
Maybe some people would call that ‘sourced from nature’ – it
doesn’t the same halo effect though.

Third, often the genetic material from the orginal source won’t
work well in the host plant cells. In the case of Cry1Ab gene,
typically 30% of the codons in the genes were changed. Also some
sequences were deliberately changed to alter amino acids in the
bacterial proteins, simply to make the proteins functional in plants.
I don’t know what has happened to the coding of the ‘pure
promoter’ material of CaMV or FMV or the particular virus and
strains’ respective Gene VI’s because, as yet, I haven’t found any
sequences in patents, in Food Regulatory reports, GM company
applications (seemingly put in confidential appendices that I
wasn’t given) or in the ncbi database. I have to keep looking.

Fourth, in the very simplest example, the genetic material in the
crops in respect of Gene VI is curtate as discussed above and as
you mentioned. So only part of the protein or peptides may be
transcribed if there happens to be an open reading frame. Unless
nature surreptitiously cut a protein short we haven’t eaten these
before – they are novel products. They may attract different post-
translational modifications, fold differently, clump, expose active
epitopes otherwise not exposed – it shouldn’t be assumed that this
curtate protein or peptides necessarily have all the same properties
than those from a full Virus of this type in the natural environment,
nor should it be assumed that they are inactive as a result of being
curtate. There are examples of proteins becoming more virulent
when curtate.

Fifth, the GM developers are working on more accuracy but I think
it’s still true that the insertion of these genetic constructs are
random – they certainly have been in the case of all the GM crops I
have read into. The authors of the study under discussion noted 54
GM crops using this sort of genetic material. Depending on where
the constructs landed in the crop and the Open Reading Frames
that happened to occur, any range of novel proteins could be
generated from the material that in many cases may also have lost
or gained sequences or undergone rearrangement in the
recombination event.

Sixth, a lot of promoters are being described as “chimeric” (man
made) by the developers and Food Regulators as the GM
developers progressively learn more about what constructs make a
vibrant promoter in a particular plant for a particular purpose. The
promoter constructs may carry useful bits from a CaMV or FMV
but they are likely to be attached to promoters and sequences from
other sources. Nobody has eaten this genetic material before and
without further information and considering all of the above I
couldn’t hazard a guess at what might be generated from them if an
open reading frame at a random insertion point in the plant.

I see analogies that are drawn between the CaMV products in an
infected heritage organic broccoli and whatever construct finally
ends up in a GM plant as patently false.

Very busy – must add information to the other part later. Ask for
references, examples, more info as required.

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              Gavin Venn says:

        January 25, 2013 at 10:03 am

        Hi Madeline,

        “Unless nature surreptitiously cut a protein short we
        haven’t eaten these before – they are novel products. They
        may attract different post-translational modifications, fold
        differently, clump, expose active epitopes otherwise not
        exposed”

        The flow chart provided by Podevin & Jardin, and the
        conclusions they reach bases resulting phenotypes on
        known effects of the full virus VI. This would suggest that
        on this subject, the regulators and possibly developers are
        only looking for what they expect to see. Novel phenotypes
        may well have been missed.
2.           Heather Dayvis says:

     January 21, 2013 at 3:34 pm

     Wow. Thank you for this article. I suppose the choice to make the public into guinea pigs
     has not yet been dissuaded, but with good scientists like this in the world we can have
     hope.

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        o            jrlatham says:

             January 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm

             Hi Heather
             I wouldn’t like to judge these scientists as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. They were working for
             an agency (EFSA) and appear to have tried to sneak this out just after the
             California labeling vote. The agency may have felt they actively needed to
             publish this to preempt someone else pointing it out. To publish this in an obscure
             journal, many of whose editors work for the biotech industry, is also worth noting.
             This is not a simple situation.

             Reply



                            Heather Dayvis says:

                     January 21, 2013 at 6:52 pm

                     Thank you! I can see I have just stumbled upon a great resource of
                     information at this site.

                     Reply



                            Brandon says:

                     January 22, 2013 at 6:38 pm
                    Hi Jonathan,
                    Forgive my ignorance, but can you elaborate on your reply to Heather
                    Davis re: “good” or “bad” EFSA scientists… I’m quite new to the GMO
                    issue, so I’m not up to date on all of the politics. My understanding was
                    that no independent study of GMOs were allowed
                    (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-seed-companies-
                    control-gm-crop-research). If that is true, how was this study allowed?
                    Thanks.

                    Reply



                                   jrlatham says:

                            January 22, 2013 at 7:39 pm

                            Brandon
                            The two researchers were working with EFSA. But also they also
                            didnt do actual experiments. They merely looked at company-
                            submitted data about their GMOs and fed it through a computer.

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                                   Nathan McCorkle says:

                            January 23, 2013 at 6:41 pm

                            Brandon it depends on the country, in the U.S. federal law pretty
                            much just requires a scientist to follow the guidelines set forth by
                            the NIH (national institutes of health)

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3.          Valerie says:

     January 21, 2013 at 7:07 pm

     Great article, nothing in it surprises me. However, I’m dismayed by how few comments
     there are regarding this. Just goes to show, mainstream America just doesn’t get it quite
     yet. I still get blank stares when I mention GMO’s in casual conversation. When you
     come to the realization that NO industry will willfully police it’s actions when big $$ are
     at stake. And that that same industry and your government are working hand in hand in
     duplicitous collusion. And that even scientists you thought were above it all, have been
     bought by big money. When you finally understand it all, you realize that you can only
     trust your instincts. As time goes on, I get further and further away from the Food
     Industrial Complex, and am healthier for it.

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        o            Mary E. says:

             January 21, 2013 at 9:37 pm

             Valerie, I understand when you say you receive blank stares when mentioning
             GMO’s. I am giving a presentation on Plant Based Eating and am going to
             mention GMO’s. Do you have any words of wisdom as far as definition and ways
             to avoid GMO’s in layman’s terms? I have an idea of how to present it, but I
             always welcome other ways to approach the subject.

             Reply



4.           tielman says:

     January 21, 2013 at 9:48 pm

     I’m with Valerie on this one. When upon hearing about the wonders of the New
     Revolution about to take place in Wheat farming in Canada many years ago my first
     instinct was to go “hold on here” and who says? Then non participating farmers were
     having their Rapeseed fields contaminated by the bullies who were selling the new
     science to the greedy! That caused me to worry even more about the brilliance of this
     new fangled industrial monopoly that was advocating the use of their products. Now it
     appears I was correct in my original assumption. I’m an old time organic farm practioner
     and seem to be vindicated by my trust in what I call sticking to what my grandparents
     advocated as the best policy in farming the way nature intended us to farm. By looking
     after the environment we were working in. Yes?

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        o            Misha says:

             January 21, 2013 at 10:10 pm
             Thank you for being an honest organic farmer. I and many others have a lot of
             respect for farmers like yourself for taking care of the land for this and future
             generations. Please keep up your good work!

             Reply



                            dyannne says:

                     January 23, 2013 at 1:08 am

                     I second what Mischa says 100 percent. Thank you, Mr. Ethical Farmer.

                     Reply



5.           Karen Chun says:

     January 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm

     The Mosaic virus is in most GMOs ON PURPOSE – it is the mechanism which
     stimulates the plant to reproduce the foreign DNA. Without it, you could splice genes all
     you want but they wouldn’t reproduce.

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        o            Karen Chun says:

             January 21, 2013 at 11:49 pm

             I should add that the “promoter” gene that is attached to GMO DNA, not only
             stimulates the inserted genes to “express” or turn on and copy themselves — but it
             also “promotes” other virus DNA. There’s a lot of ancient (and not active) virus
             material in our DNA. Some of it is very bad when it gets turned on – like that
             which causes leukemia..

             For those with some molecular biology background, understanding the process by
             which GMOs are created, makes one FAR more concerned than just reading
             about the effects! Logically, what the GMO guys are doing is fraught with danger
             to not only our health but that of the plants.

             Reply
           jrlatham says:

    January 22, 2013 at 12:11 am

    Hi Karen
    I hope the article is clear that the viral promoter is there on purpose but
    Gene VI is not. Re your point about the methods used to make GMOs, our
    paper (Wilson et al. 2006) and another one that is shorter and more
    concise (The Mutational Consequences of Plant Transformation) are the
    best resources we know of to find out the gruesome details of the different
    methods.

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                   Ari says:

            January 22, 2013 at 4:41 am

            No, Gene VI encodes the P6 protein – a nuclear shuttle protein,
            and is part of the viral infection cycle:
            http://www.plantcell.org/content/17/3/927.abstract

            Maybe if the PUBLIC funded science instead of only the private
            sector, we could perform more thorough research into these
            endeavors prior to public release for consumption. Maybe instead
            of demonizing the science itself and writing alarmist articles, one
            could release factual evidence that doesn’t use buzz words only
            meant to frighten the general public and immediately turn into
            Facebook memes propagated by the fearfully ignorant.

            Also, I read the abstract of this article, but since I’m a broke grad
            student (btw, actually have a degree in molecular biology, would
            like to see credentials of these authors if possible) I can’t afford to
            pay $29 to read it ahead of publication. Maybe there is something
            in this article that warrants a more alarmist standpoint, but from
            what I have read (and this includes previous literature that was
            likely cited in this particular article) this is actually A. a good
            thing, the evaluation of possible complications due to this common
            process and B. not something to panic over.

            Lest we forget that a good portion of GM is a process nearly
            identical to the practice of crop modification that has been carried
out by humanity for THOUSANDS of years – just in a more
precise way. That is not the case for all, but it is pertinent to say
that not all GMOs can be lumped into one ‘evil’ category. Straight
up. Don’t believe the hype.

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              jrlatham says:

        January 22, 2013 at 12:28 pm

        Ari
        I am sorry you cannot access the paper easily/cheaply but
        the journal has an open access option which EFSA chose
        not to use. Consequently, you cannot see the research you
        (if you are a European tax payer) paid for. Unfortunately
        this means that we cannot make this available to you
        without breaching copyright. It is a deeply sad thing that
        this situation persists over much of science, the only people
        who are able easily to change this are scientists themselves
        and they have chosen not to do so.
        Yes, Gene VI makes protein P6, but rather than introduce
        another term you will see we called it the protein produced
        by Gene VI, etc.
        It is true GMO crops also go through steps of conventional
        breeding (unless they are papaya or trees in which they may
        not) but GMO breeding (tissue culture, shooting with
        particles, infecting with microbes, insereting foreign genes,
        etc) has next to nothing in common with what we have
        been doing for thousands of years.
        The people in this story who are the fearfully ignorant are
        not the public who want labeling so they can avoid GMOs
        but the regulators who fear industry and for their jobs and
        wish to remain ignorant of the risks.



              Madeleine Love says:

        January 22, 2013 at 1:19 pm

        Ari, the academic backgrounds of the authors of this
        commentary are here
        http://www.bioscienceresource.org/about-us/our-staff/
                                            Goku says:

                                      January 24, 2013 at 1:52 am

                                      Hey Ari i go to cal. im not a bio major and i get free access
                                      to this kind of stuff and would like to hear your take on
                                      their findings so, heres the article free of charge

                                      https://www.dropbox.com/s/yiqmcwhs3onv7rc/Plant%20C
                                      ell-2005-Haas-927-43.pdf



6.           Angela says:

     January 22, 2013 at 12:01 am

     To get the word out, I recently posted a picture on FB of bread that I made with organic,
     non-GMO ingredients. At least three of my friends that buy all organic and make most of
     their own dishes said that they thought organic and non-GMO were the same thing. They
     all said they were ready to do the research. Those were the only people that spoke up. I
     think that is a big misconception about organic. I get a lot of my recipes from different
     blogs. Most of the large blogs that claim to be cooking healthy do not mention non-
     GMO, only organic. I could be wrong, but I doubt that most scientist use social media.
     There seems to be a need for tapping into that market with education in layman’s terms.

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        o           Hazel says:

             January 22, 2013 at 5:11 am

             Organic is supposed to be non-GMO (I forget the percentage, but the USDA
             Organic label does allow for a tiny % of GMOs in there, to cover themselves from
             contamination….since the entire concept of “co-existence” is a farce, because
             pollen cannot be contained).
             So yes, if something is organic, in theory it should also be non-GMO. Something
             that is just non-GMO is not necessarily organic. Sometimes it may be grown
             using organic methods, but could not claim the “organic” label, because you have
             to go through a costly process to certify yourself for this, and it is simply out of
             reach for many small producers, even if they do attempt to grow in what is
             basically an organic way.
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7.           Kay Sheehan says:

     January 22, 2013 at 1:04 am

     Please continue to get the real facts about GMO’s out to the public in terms that the
     common man can understand. The general public needs to be able to read and possibly
     relate the hidden health risks to their own bodies. Thank you for your diligence and
     research.

     Reply



8.           ian says:

     January 22, 2013 at 2:09 am

     I think it is clear now the scientists can throw it back and forth and say things we dont
     understand ,i think that this is the nail in the coffin for biotech,and anyone who eats it is
     also seriously mad; the only way is organic,if you want fat salt and sugar,go to the
     supermarket,the best thing is to get some land and grow it yourself ,tastes better,cyou
     know then its not gm or contaminated with chemicals.

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9.           Patrick Jordan says:

     January 22, 2013 at 4:41 am

     This is a clear cut case of fraud and collusion. Even a surveyor making a mistake is
     subject to suit because his license presumes that he knows what he is doing. Whenever
     you find gross violations like this in science, government or politics no one loses even so
     much as their jobs let alone their ability to see the light of day over a life sentence. This is
     about the total pollution of the human genome and all that people do is debate the
     mechanics of it.

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10.           Kim says:

      January 22, 2013 at 8:23 am

      I am sorry but, have to laugh. hahaha. Where are all the GMO defenders who usually
      show up to comment, and tell us how good GMOs are. Saving the world, excetera… I see
      here qualified minds of logic who actually study all this…Where have you been? I spend
      all my time trying to inform people of the problems, and am treated like a looney tune.
      (Maybe, but my argument has premises which can be upheld).
      Needs to go on my blog. And the only thing that makes sense to me here are the
      comments,telling the world in layman’s talk.
      I am actually so excited am crying now. I am stunned… This is the scientific evidence
      that may be noticed.
      Too much….Like the Earth just stopped spinning,
      If you want to see how this comes down follow my blog.
      Antiphopholipid and Pesticide Effects Blog
      Will watch over our egg, and keep it warm.
      Here is the reason they want to take away everyones guns and clamp down on freedom.
      They made a bad bet and want to welch on it. Although the labeling issue is important.
      Isn’t this the way our body becomes a pesticide factory in he case of BTs? hmmm

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11.           Della says:

      January 22, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      I am a qualified mind who studies this, and I am absolutely definitely NOT a GMO
      defender. And I agree that using viruses is potentially dangerous. However, articles that
      call the cauliflower mosaic virus a “belated discovery” are just fueling the people who
      are. As someone said earlier, these have been used in crop GMOs for a very long time.
      No one was trying to hide anything, you can get this information in about 5 minutes of a
      google search, and you always could.

      I found a really good book on this stuff, written for lay people, called “Intervention:
      Confronting the Real Risks of Genetic Engineering.” It’s on Amazon. If you want to
      know how this stuff works and more importantly, how it got approved by the
      government, you should read it.

      Reply
o           jrlatham says:

    January 22, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Della
    You missed the point. CaMV is supposed to be there but Gene VI was not.

    Reply



o           Madeleine Love says:

    January 23, 2013 at 4:30 am

    Della, Food regulators are obligated to examine any novel proteins that may be
    potentially produced in the GM crop, and ensure their safety is [at least
    nominally] tested. The fact that they overlooked this protein coding DNA
    included with the pure ‘promoter’ code may highlight the laxity in their work or
    perhaps highlight the impossibility of the task for a few select individuals in a
    government body, chosen for this work, to be fully accountable to populations of
    multi-millions. In my view they have failed in their duties.

    For their ‘assessment of safety’ the food regulators have chosen to rely, solely in
    most cases here in Australia, on information provided by the financially interested
    GM crop developers. This practice, profoundly open to conflict of interest abuse,
    is obviously fraught, frequently observed yet not dealt with.

    Back to this particular case, I have looked through many full GM crop application
    dossiers from the companies and have not noticed any mention of Gene VI DNA
    attached to the ‘pure promoter’. Although Latham and Wilson write as though
    inclusion of Gene VI was accidental, to me, looking at the references supporting
    the GM company’s own advocacy material, it seems unlikely. If I am right that
    they had knowledge, I wonder why it was not reported. If I am not right that they
    had knowledge, and were hence unable to comply with the most rudimentary
    regulatory requirements, then we see, by their surprise, more evidence that the
    outcomes of DNA manipulation of food crops are not reasonably foreseeable, and
    that the existence of these crops should be reconsidered.

    Further this finding highlights more clearly than before how regulators sit back
    and wait to be told what the financially interested company wants, or is able, to
    tell them, rather than undertake genuine investigation themselves. As a citizen I
    was eager to delve to the origins of all the code but hadn’t yet had the opportunity
    to look at the promoters.
              So what is it with the food regulators in this particular case? Did they read
              through the references and fail to have the imagination and understanding to
              forsee the issue? Read through the references and understand the issue, yet decide
              to keep it from the public? Fail to read through the references? Or something else?

              In the cases where Open Reading Frame assessments were done, and putative
              proteins/polypeptides found, these were only run through toxin/allergen
              databases. Yet what if they were proteins/peptide arising from the Gene VI code
              that interfere with immune defense mechansims as they do in plants? We would
              not have consumed these curtate novel proteins before. There should be a lot more
              work on this.

              I sat in with individuals with these regulatory responsibilities in a masterclass on
              risk management. The facilitor asked the participants (paraphrasing) “If you make
              a mistake that ends up having some adverse consequences, is it because you were
              evil, or because you were stupid?” The roar “Because we were stupid”
              overwhelmed any other response that might have been given. There are limits. I
              see us in deep water and for no other reason than for the eager launch of a
              corporate/state ship.

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12.           Bruce Bingham says:

      January 22, 2013 at 6:09 pm

      Perhaps some of these companies should be sued out of existence, and, as suggested
      above, the future well-being of the human race taken out of the hands of profit driven
      corporations and given to state-funded scientists

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13.           Brandon says:

      January 22, 2013 at 6:59 pm

      “their own competence and self-interest would prevent them from ever bringing
      potentially harmful products to the market”

      Just a side note from my perspective: much of the trouble comes from mixing this view
      of free markets with conflicting views of government regulation. They cannot co-exist.
      Government regulation short circuits a free market, competitive self-regulation. For a
government to claim they will regulate an industry but then operate upon principles of a
free-market instead is simply fascist. I think that a true free market where no one looks to
and trusts the government to protect them but are instead cautious and discerning of what
is “out there” would be a much greater check on companies like Monsanto than any
regulatory body. (I realize it’s a very complicated issue)
http://contrast2.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/bungee-jumping-and-investing/

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   o            jrlatham says:

        January 22, 2013 at 7:37 pm

        Brandon
        At the moment we have regulators (generalising somewhat) who seem to see their
        job as pretending to regulate, providing reassurance to the public, without
        hindering what industry wants to do. The article we published early last year by
        William Sanjour explains this clearly about EPA when he worked there. The
        regulations were designed not to work from the start. It’s a great article:
        http://independentsciencenews.org/health/designed-to-fail-why-regulatory-
        agencies-dont-work/
        On our sister site http://www.bioscienceresource.org there is also (in the resources
        section) a peer-reviewed article by David Pelletier of Cornell University detailing
        (through memos etc) how FDA came to view the regulation of GMOs, in which
        science was specifically excluded from the outcome. If this is really true, and I see
        no reason to doubt it, then we would be better off without the pretense. Monsanto
        would have to rely on its good name to sell its products and right now I’m going
        to hazard a guess they couldnt do that, nor many other companies.

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                       Brandon says:

                January 22, 2013 at 7:54 pm

                Thanks Jonathan, I just noticed that article looking through your site. I’ll
                give it a read. I agree that we would be better off without the pretense, and
                that opinion applies to regulatory bodies across the board, not just
                scientific. You’re right, Monsanto would have to rely on being a good
                company in a free market, and they likely wouldn’t survive. But sadly no
                such market exists.
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                             Brandon says:

                     January 22, 2013 at 7:58 pm

                     FYI, the link to Pelletier’s article appears to be dead
                     http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120776948/abstract (I get a
                     403 Forbidden error)

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                                     jrlatham says:

                              January 23, 2013 at 2:03 pm

                              Hi Brandon
                              The Pelletier paper I had in mind is this one, free here:
                              http://www.aseanbiotechnology.info/Abstract/21020405.pdf
                              From the Abstract: ‘This paper reveals that the FDA responded to
                              political pressure for a permissive regulatory approach by
                              exploiting gaps in scientific knowledge, creatively interpreting
                              existing food law and limiting public involvement in the policy’s
                              development.’
                              Yours

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14.           Kim says:

      January 23, 2013 at 12:49 am

      Sadly I am not shocked by this. It just makes me very sad every time I read yet another
      article about GMO’s. I recently had a conversation with an executive where I work about
      GMO’s and Monsanto. When he heard how passionate I was about this subject he
      laughed and asked if my parents were hippies. Kills me how closed minded people are.

      Reply
15.           KO says:

      January 23, 2013 at 2:27 am

      WHat I need to know, is what are the implications of this on my bee colonies?

      Reply



16.           Chris says:

      January 23, 2013 at 3:06 am

      I know the FDA Food Protection Czar Michael Taylor is a formed Monsanto Lawyer, but
      what is the “official” benefit of doing this to our produce? I don’t understand this notion
      of inserting viral genetic material into anything in a safe way. Weren’t soybeans fine like
      they were? I won’t eat non-GMO, so I am really limited on what I can eat, especially in
      the realm of corn, which is basically 100% GMO now. I am sickened by the idea that it is
      moving into Pork, Salmon, when will it end. The term Frankenfoods, doesn’t really apply
      because these are more like Chimerafoods…with pieces that don’t belong together!!

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17.           Todd says:

      January 23, 2013 at 3:28 am

      There is too much irrational fear of GMOs. I think the problem is that too many people
      cant comprehend what they are reading. They dont understand how GMOs work, and
      when they do “research” they go to biased sites, or watch “Food Inc”, and now think they
      are an expert. Organic is a fad, and unsustainable. Organic is NOT the answer. These
      studies go back and forth, and the results are picked apart, and debunked. I have read
      nothing so far that will make me avoid GMOs in the future. I will not be a part of the
      uninformed/misinformed fear mongering.

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         o            Madeleine Love says:
    January 23, 2013 at 4:43 am

    Regardless of the source or nature of people’s concerns about GMO’s these
    concerns are well-founded and supported by a strong scientific base, .

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o           Mary says:

    January 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I just have to ask Todd how in the world organic is not sustainable when it was
    the way crops were grown for thousands of years. They seemed to do just fine
    then. Playing God with food does not make sense to me when it comes to
    sustainability, nor when it comes to health. These crops, plants, and animals were
    created the way they were, either by a higher power or evolution, your flavor of
    choice, to fit and work together for the benefit of the planet, and to screw with
    them is going to bring consequences we have not yet seen. And that opinion
    comes from my own research which has included information from organic/non-
    GMO supporters and GMO supporters such as yourself.

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                  DAVID HUTING says:

            January 23, 2013 at 6:12 pm

            Todd, your statements make it clear just how ignorant you are. Why don’t
            you take a step back and look at the bigger picture: Everything in nature is
            designed to work in perfect harmony with each other and nature provides
            everything we need to survive. Our bodies benefit from organic (natural)
            foods because it is coded in our DNA to recognize these as legitimate food
            sources. When you start tinkering with the DNA of Nature, especially
            food, our bodies no longer recognize this food as food – it becomes a
            foreign substance. This causes an immune response. This over time
            explains why things like food allergies have been significantly on the rise
            in the past decade, especially with children – they are the ones that are
            most sensitive to GMOs. How is this hard for you to grasp? Are you one
            of those “science” worshippers that can’t believe something unless it is
            proven by the scientific community? Wake up – they are paid by the same
            people and companies that are profiting from GMO, biotech, cancer,
            cancer research, media, education (the ones training the scientists),
                      government, and politics (how else can the FDA and other government
                      agencies be so corrupt?). If you want to continue eating GMO garbage, the
                      choice is completely yours – just don’t ruin other open minded people’s
                      chance to see the truth by stating comments like yours. The information is
                      there, you just have to open your eyes a bit bigger. Wake up dude.

                      Reply



18.           stephen Wilson says:

      January 23, 2013 at 3:36 am

      So a stray bit of DNA got through without the rigorous testing regime noticing it? That’s
      hardly surprising It’s high time genetic “engineers” reviewed the lessons of software
      validation. In software testing, we know that only the most trivial programs can be tested
      empirically. Serious software validation involves a spectrum of methods that go way
      beyond testing, including formal proofs (a rare luxury) and, most particularly, code
      inspection. Nothing beats a human brain (or better still, a team of brains) poring over
      source code, exploring it mentally, looking for logic errors, or stray elements that just
      don’t make sense.

      But you have to understand the code you’re reading. So I’ve long been concerned that
      they just cannot know enough about how DNA works to be able to meaningfully code-
      inspect the products of recombinant genetic engineering (although in the reported case,
      perhaps a simple inspection of the sequence would have spotted the viral gene fragment;
      does anyone even read the sequence before a GMO goes into production?).

      Empirical black box testing is the only tool available for validating GMOs, but any
      software engineer will tell you, that’s not enough. There can be very little confidence in
      any amount of testing of such a complex system as a modified genome.

      See a longer presentation of the argument here:
      http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2011/01/15/not-ready-for-gm.

      Reply



19.           Ralph Fucetola JD says:

      January 23, 2013 at 4:49 am
      This sort of result from what we’ve identified as a “genomicidal technology” leads to
      what Dr. Rima E. Laibow MD has identified as: Genome Disruption Syndrome. – see:
      http://www.GDS-Therapy.com for more information.

      Reply



20.           John Vreeland says:

      January 23, 2013 at 5:18 am

      This article seems overheated. The gene is incomplete, and so probably does not do any
      of the things the authors fret about. Perhaps too much depends on what the original
      authors meant by “significant fragment.” But even assuming the worst case, that a
      complete viral gene was encoded and was actually expressed, then the plants would be
      obviously sick and would be unmarketable. This is why there was no recall issued,
      clearly the relevant protein was not being produced.

      It does strike me, though, that people are only making a big deal about this now, when it
      should have been known ages ago. Especially given how easy it is to check these things.
      Are you using a transgenic promoter? Lets sequence it to make sure it doesn’t contain
      any surprises.

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21.           Joan Russow says:

      January 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm

      There has been mounting evidence about the harm, of various transgenic crops, to human
      health and the environment. If, with this new evidence, the regulators do not 1) recall all
      CaMV Gene VI-containing crops they will be grossly negligent.

      Even though .”recall would be a massive political and financial decision, would also be a
      huge embarrassment to the regulators themselves, would leave very few GMO crops on
      the market and it might even mean the end of crop biotechnology” recall must happen.

      There is sufficient evidence now to justify invoking the precautionary principle, which
      reads: where there is a threat to human health or the environment the lack of full
      scientific certainity shall not be used as a reason for postponing measures to prevent the
      threat. The precautionary principle, which appears in the universally adopted Rio
      Declaration and in the legally binding Convention on Biological Diversity has become an
      international peremptory norm and as such, a state obligation.
It is extraordinary that regulatory agencies would even consider the other two options.
Their role has to be the protection of human health and of the environment.

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   o            ArcherB says:

        January 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm

        Why should they recall these products? These foods have been out for over 20
        years, as stated by the very first sentence of this article. So far, there have been
        zero ill effects from any of these products. The “mounting evidence about the
        harm, of various transgenic crops, to human health and the environment” is
        nonexistent.

        Just because you THINK a product is harmful, doesn’t mean it should be recalled.
        Actually, holding a recall would be proof in incompetence from these agencies, as
        they would fall prey to the absolute FUD people like you keep spreading.

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                       Tanya Q says:

                January 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm

                Many say that we have been eating these foods for 20 years and there have
                been no ill effects. How can this be determined when these products are 1.
                not labeled and 2. most people are not even aware that they have been
                consuming them? I believe the ill effects are there…and industry has
                effectively hidden them.

                Reply



                               Mary E. says:

                        January 24, 2013 at 4:39 pm

                        Tanya Q, “Many say that we have been eating these foods for 20
                        years and there have been no ill effects. How can this be
                        determined when these products are 1. not labeled and 2. most
            people are not even aware that they have been consuming them? I
            believe the ill effects are there…and industry has effectively
            hidden them.”

            Yes, I also believe that it is hard to prove that certain chemicals or
            GM foods cause the ill effects. I think this is why these companies
            are not regulated. Mark Bittman shared this YouTube video today,
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU. Pretty scary to
            think this is how our world could end up.

            Reply



           Barry says:

    January 25, 2013 at 4:59 am

    The premise that ” These foods have been out for over 20 years, as stated
    by the very first sentence of this article. So far, there have been zero ill
    effects from any of these products.” is quite an unjustifiable statement
    based on supposition? In the last 20 years there has been increases in food
    allergies, autism, cancers and a multitude of maladies that seem to be on
    the rise. Assuming that GMO’s have nothing to do with this is a likely
    scenario correlating to picking just about anything else as the culprit, or
    combination of contributors. As the human species reproduces at a very
    slow rate compared to most all other mammals, unnatural or intentionally
    mutated DNA ingested which very well might cause quite a different
    outcome than anticipated. Third or fourth generation ingesting these
    contaminated products might just produce a multitude of unanticipated
    and deadly health problems. These products, growth hormones, etc have
    been banned by other countries due to omission of satisfactory conclusions
    or health hazards already known. Before intensive testing can be done, all
    these GMO products should be contained and even recalled until such
    assurances can be given with known outcomes, not unknown
    consequences.

    I, for one do not trust a Monsanto lawyer, hired FDA employee returning
    as Vice Pres of Monsanto, then head of the “new” agricultural dept that
    gives the assent for all these GMO’s, the go ahead with no more testing
    than “if” there is a problem in the future to give cause for more intensive
    submission of documentation (upon proof). You are much more trusting in
    Big Corporate Caring and coercive lobbying than I am.

    Reply
22.           Nathan McCorkle says:

      January 23, 2013 at 6:37 pm

      These are pretty ‘funny’… I almost started thinking that article had
      some ‘substance’, but alas it wasn’t really well supported:
      ‘When Gene VI is intentionally expressed in transgenic plants, it
      causes them to become chlorotic (yellow), to have growth deformities’
      This says nothing about what happens when the trailing/broken end
      fragment is expressed…

      ‘ Since the known targets of Gene VI activity (ribosomes and gene
      silencing) are also found in human cells, a reasonable concern is that
      the protein produced by Gene VI might be a human toxin.’
      Doesn’t mention that we’re quite different machinery-wise. Seems like
      they could test this pretty quick by throwing the gene into some
      tissue culture cells. AMES test even?

      The ask ‘Is Gene VI Protein Produced in GMO Crops?’
      Then don’t give any factual evidence, isn’t this test easily
      accomplished with a western blot?

      Reply



         o           jrlatham says:

              January 24, 2013 at 3:10 am

              Nathan
              Your three questions
              1) We do know that partial pieces of Gene VI can be functional
              2) You think we are quite different, some people think we are quite similar to
              plants, is not going to help anyone. As you say, actual experimental tests are in
              order but EFSA and other regulators haven’t done any and by now they are
              probably wishing they had. So are we all. Since it was their job they should take
              the responsibility.
              3) To do a Western blot you need an antibody, which can’t be whistled up. You
              also need to know what size protein you might be looking for and since fusions
              and bits of proteins are likely to be what is found then how will you know when
              you have found it? Also, how sensitive is an antibody test going to be? This is not
              an easy road, as the article touched on.
              Reply



23.           Gavin Venn says:

      January 23, 2013 at 10:48 pm

      Hi Jonathan and Alison,

      The authors of the research have given the following statement. It would be useful if you
      can comment on this.

      Dr Nancy Podevin and Professor Patrick du Jardin:

      “It has been known for some years that a DNA sequence used to turn genes on and off (a
      gene switch) in some GM plants also forms the tail end of a virus gene in the Cauliflower
      mosaic virus. This naturally occurring plant virus is ubiquitous in plants and derived
      foods, both GM and non-GM, and does not pose safety concerns to human and animal
      health.”

      “In the light of recent advances in the understanding of how this gene behaves when it
      occurs within a virus, we did a comprehensive risk assessment of the part of the
      Cauliflower mosaic virus used as a gene switch. We were looking at how the presence of
      part of this viral gene may affect the physiology of the GM plants. We studied the
      variants of the gene switch that are introduced in GM plants and the conditions under
      which this gene segment could be turned on to produce a viral protein fragment, in detail.
      No risks to human health were identified when this gene was present in GM plants.”

      Reply



24.           AC says:

      January 23, 2013 at 10:57 pm

      Gosh, I’m just shocked the nice, fluffy, biotech corporations have been (probably
      knowingly) feeding us poison for two decades.

      Shocked.

      Reply
25.           Peter says:

      January 24, 2013 at 2:08 am

      This would most likely explain celiac, ibs and other allergic diseases on the rise. As an
      IBS sufferer I knew it had something to do with GMO’s because I am most allergic to the
      most abundant GM foods like corn, soy and dairy (cattle are feed GM foods). I hope we
      change our agricultural methods because what’s happening to me and others will
      eventually happen to all over time. This will severely limit what we as humans will be
      able to eat, thus making us susceptible to starvation due to food that is not edible.

      Reply



26.           Ron Wroblewski says:

      January 24, 2013 at 5:02 pm

      “This attribute of Gene VI raises two obvious biosafety concerns: 1) Gene VI will lead to
      aberrant gene expression in GMO crop plants, with unknown consequences and, 2) Gene
      VI will interfere with the ability of plants to defend themselves against viral pathogens.
      There are numerous experiments showing that, in general, viral proteins that disable gene
      silencing enhance infection by a wide spectrum of viruses (Latham and Wilson 2008).”
      My concern is that Gene VI will not only interfere with the ability of plants defending
      themselves but the human consumer will also uptake Gene VI interrfering now with the
      human host ability to defend themselves from viral pathogens. Could this be planned to
      wreck out immune systems???

      Reply



         o            jrlatham says:

              January 24, 2013 at 6:25 pm

              Hi Ron
              The gut is likely to be an entry point for viruses and other pathogens. Gene VI
              turns off RNAi in plants and might do in humans. RNAi is a principle component
              of the innate immune system (distinct from the acquired immune system which is
              antibodies etc). It is what protects you the first time you are ever exposed to a new
              organism. There is definitely the potential for what you suggest. But planned?
              Personally, I don’t think so, not at least specifically. However, industry is in
              overdrive to try to disable utterly the scientific system and its ability to challenge
              its products. More from us on this important issue in due course.

              Reply



27.           Fran Murrell says:

      January 24, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      We are told that since the cauliflower mosaic virus is naturally occurring and infects
      plants such as cauliflowers and broccoli that we have been eating it for years with no ill
      effects. Do you have any comment on this?

      Reply



         o            jrlatham says:

              January 25, 2013 at 2:32 am

              Fran
              There are several things to be clear about:
              1) The gene produced in these plants is almost certainly not going to be the same
              as the one produced by the virus itself. It is partial and if produced at all will
              likely be produced in many cells of each plant (so we might end up consuming
              much more than in a viral infection, for example) so there is no real ‘prior’ here.
              2) Even if there was a history of human consumption of this protein, the real
              question would be whether whatever we have been historically consuming is
              harmful. Unfortunately, merely knowing we have been eating something doesn’t
              tell us anything (despite astonishing numbers of claims to the contrary, often by
              people who surely know better). Only careful experiments can do that and I have
              been unable to find any evidence for CaMV, its parts, or its relatives, being tested
              in a way that might shed light on this. What we wrote in the article, therefore was
              mainly theory and inferences based on other viruses and the known effects of
              Gene VI in plants. As I put this elsewhere, if we have been eating lead arsenic and
              mercury, is that a reason why a company should put more of it into petrol,
              jewellery, etc? I think most readers would say that our prior (or background)
              consumption of these toxins is not relevant. Their inherent toxicity is the real
              question.

              Reply
           Fran Murrell says:

    January 25, 2013 at 4:37 am

    Thanks for your response.

    EFSA says: ‘The viral gene (Gene VI) belongs to a plant virus
    (Cauliflower Mosaic virus) that cannot infect animals or humans and
    therefore presents no threat to human or animal health.” That is not my
    understanding from reading your article. Do you have any comment on
    EFSA’s assertion that plant viral genes can’t infect humans?

    EFSA also say GM applications have “…a detailed analysis of the inserted
    sequence. These applications have also included the extensive data
    required by EFSA to assess the potential for unintended effects.”

    However the title of the Podevin and du Jardin research is “Possible
    consequences of the overlap between the CaMV 35S promoter
    regions…..” which suggests that everything is not as known and clear cut
    as EFSA suggests.

    Does anyone know why the Podevin/du Jardin research was undertaken?

    On what basis is EFSA claiming that they have assessed the potential for
    unintended effects? It sounds a very grand claim with no underpinnings,
    especially since it seems that no one realised Gene VI encoding the multi-
    functional protein P6 was within the CaMV 35S promoter. Looks like
    quite a large oversight to me.

    Reply



                   jrlatham says:

            January 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm

            Fran
            Not in your order of questions:
            The PDJ paper was looking for allergens produced by small coding
            sequences. They found instead Gene VI, went back to do their
            homework and discovered Gene VI is a well known Cauliflower
            Mosaic Virus Gene.
            If you contact us we can send you the paper but I can’t put it on the
site or link to it as it is copyrighted.
EFSA is claiming they have looked for unintended effects. They
do this by sophisticated techniques like ‘observing the plants’.
They don’t have a specific system, merely that the crop is tested
for various specific attributes and if they match up EFSA considers
it has done its job. When they don’t match up, which is common,
verging on normal, they handwave the results away, as Prof
Seralini showed when he analyzed Monsanto’s data on effects of a
GMO on rats, data that EFSA had to be forced to reveal. Sorry I
can’t right now provide a link, as I am away from the office. All
regulators in our experience do exactly the same. The standard
excuse is that the observed difference is not ‘harmful’ (or similar,
another is to say that the observed difference is ‘in line with
historical norms’ or some such and then find the necessary
‘historical norm’ by mining the literature and and looking at
known soybeans or whatever the crop is, thus making the window
of regulatory acceptability so large as to be meaningless) but that
excuse reveals they have moved the goal posts so to speak (they
were looking only for effects of any kind). Another way to nail this
inconsistency is to point out that by this rationale no possible
answer to any test they actually do could (except feeding studies)
constitutes grounds for rejection. Even astonishing differences are
ignored. The Roundup Ready Soy (at one time accounting for
about 90% of the US soybean harvest) had a 7-11% yield reduction
in their (USDA’s now) original assessment, which was borne out
by later experiments yet USDA ignored it utterly, as did EFSA
when they approved it for consumption (See our article Roundup
Ready to Yield as Much as Conventional Soybeans for the whole
scoop). It was clear evidence as you could wish that much more
than just a specific trait had been changed.
EFSA says: ‘The viral gene (Gene VI) belongs to a plant virus
(Cauliflower Mosaic virus) that cannot infect animals or humans
and therefore presents no threat to human or animal health.” I do
not believe that EFSA can support this statement (which in any
event is a red herring, it is beside the point if the intact replicating
virus is or is not harmful). Very valuable indeed would be for
individuals and organizations to ask for and collect answers to our
points raised in the article (we can help). Wherever you live in the
world and your local regulator has approved these crops they
should be able to explain what they have done. Their explanations
are likely only to get them into still more unscientific hot water.
The answers will eventually become ever longer rope to hang
themselves from. This statement from EFSA is a classic example.
EFSA provided no references and I don’t believe they exist. They
are bluffing. Essentially they are in an untenable position. Either
they approved a gene by mistake, or they knew it was there but
                             didn’t tell anyone, as EFSA is now claiming! Its worse, surely?
                             Nothing is as known and clearcut at all as EFSA suggests.

                             Reply



28.           Stephen Wilson says:

      January 25, 2013 at 5:47 am

      There are obviously several levels on which the meaning of this finding may be debated.
      I don’t know enough to follow the detailed genetics, but it seems to me that people
      cannot see the wood for the trees. The lessons for me here are on a different level; they’re
      methodological.

      The supposedly well managed and systemically safe *field* of genetic engineering has in
      this case produced a modified genome containing a sequence that should not have been
      there. Even ignoring the fact that the particular sequence is a bit viral and scary, the
      methodological issue is surely that the impact of a stray sequence cannot be known with
      confidence. Only months ago it was reported that junk DNA is not junk, overturning
      decades of conventional wisdom AND ASSUMPTIONS that have long been made by
      genetic engineers about the modularity of their work.

      Genetic code is massively parallel, in ways that we are only just beginning to grasp. How
      do you verify the safety of such code when it is modified (and in this case, modified with
      stray additions that escaped attention of the developers)? The lesson from software
      development is that no significant program can ever be verified by testing alone. Yet we
      don’t know enough about genetics to do a “code inspection”.

      Hell, the people responsible didn’t even have a basic scan in place to see if there were
      sequences in the product that didn’t belong.

      This episode is comparable to releasing an implantable defibrillator where at some point
      in development a programmer threw some random subroutines into the compiled
      machine code without anyone knowing. Imagine that at the time the extra random code is
      discovered, years after release, the defibs seem to have been working fine. The people
      debating this viral gene addition back and forth should reflect on this thought experiment.
      Should a patient be confident about their defib under those circumstances? Should
      regulators be happy with the approval processes?

      Reply



         o           Gavin Venn says:
                          January 25, 2013 at 1:13 pm

                          Hi Stephen,

                          Following on, there is also the question of how the novel plant, with these
                          potentially novel proteins can be tested in a real-world manner. At present no one
                          is even looking for the novel proteins, or understands their effects in a laboratory
                          with structured conditions.

                          Once the crop is approved and commercially implemented, any laboratory test
                          conditions are no longer so accurate, as the conditions in the real world acting on
                          the plant are always changing.

                          Reply



            29.           DP says:

                  January 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm

                  I quote:
                  It is easy to see the attraction for EFSA of option two. Recall would be a massive
                  political and financial decision and would also be a huge embarrassment to the regulators
                  themselves. It would leave very few GMO crops on the market and might even mean the
                  end of crop biotechnology.

                  What else needs to be said? Ditch it! We’ll take our chances, smaller farms, smaller
                  profits, lower prices…simple solution. Just take the corporations out of the mix.

                  Reply

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    commercial-gmo-crops/




    Salon Article Says Unborn Baby is “A
    Life Worth Sacrificing”
    by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 1/23/13 2:24 PM


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    A new article from a writer at the liberal online publication Salon is one of the most extreme pro-
    abortion diatribes ever written. It is so in-your-face that it is already sending shockwaves through the
    Internet just hours after its publication.

    The content of the article, some of which is excerpted below, needs no words to show how shocking
    the content is from Mary Elizabeth Williams, who starts her piece saying, “So what if abortion ends a
    life?”

    “I believe that life starts at conception. And it’s never stopped me from being pro-choice,” she writes.




                                         Of all the diabolically clever moves the anti-choice lobby has ever
    pulled, surely one of the greatest has been its consistent co-opting of the word “life.” Life! Who wants
    to argue with that? Who wants be on the side of … not-life? That’s why the language of those who
    support abortion has for so long been carefully couched in other terms. While opponents of abortion
    eagerly describe themselves as “pro-life,” the rest of have had to scramble around with not nearly as
    big-ticket words like “choice” and “reproductive freedom.” The “life” conversation is often too a thorny
    one to even broach. Yet I know that throughout my own pregnancies, I never wavered for a moment
    in the belief that I was carrying a human life inside of me. I believe that’s what a fetus is: a human
    life. And that doesn’t make me one iota less solidly pro-choice.

    Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals
    like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-
    precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the
    woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and
    her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.
When we on the pro-choice side get cagey around the life question, it makes us illogically
contradictory. I have friends who have referred to their abortions in terms of “scraping out a bunch of
cells” and then a few years later were exultant over the pregnancies that they unhesitatingly
described in terms of “the baby” and “this kid.” I know women who have been relieved at their
abortions and grieved over their miscarriages. Why can’t we agree that how they felt about their
pregnancies was vastly different, but that it’s pretty silly to pretend that what was growing inside of
them wasn’t the same? Fetuses aren’t selective like that. They don’t qualify as human life only if
they’re intended to be born.

We’re so intimidated by the wingnuts, we get spooked out of having these conversations. We let the
archconservatives browbeat us with the concept of “life,” using their scare tactics on women and
pushing for indefensible violations like forced ultrasounds. Why? Because when they wave the not-
even-accurate notion that “abortion stops a beating heart” they think they’re going to trick us into
some damning admission. They believe that if we call a fetus a life they can go down the road of
making abortion murder. And I think that’s what concerns the hell out of those of us who support
unrestricted reproductive freedom.

It seems absurd to suggest that other only thing that makes us fully human is the short ride out of
some lady’s vagina. That distinction may apply neatly legally, but philosophically, surely we can do
better. Instead, we let right-wingers perpetuate the sentimental fiction that no one with a heart — and
certainly no one who’s experienced the wondrous miracle of family life — can possibly resist tiny
fingers and tiny toes growing inside a woman’s body.

I would put the life of a mother over the life of a fetus every single time — even if I still need to
acknowledge my conviction that the fetus is indeed a life. A life worth sacrificing.

The only good news is very few Americans agree with this notion of abortion on demand.

A Marist College poll taken earlier this month shows a majority take one of three pro-life positions on
abortion, opposing 99 percent or 100% of all abortions done annually in the United States.

CLICK LIKE IF YOU’RE PRO-LIFE!

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    Of all the diabolically clever moves the anti-choice lobby has ever pulled, surely one of the greatest has
    been its consistent co-opting of the word “life.” Life! Who wants to argue with that? Who wants be on
    the side of … not-life? That’s why the language of those who support abortion has for so long been
    carefully couched in other terms. While opponents of abortion eagerly describe themselves as “pro-life,”
the rest of us have had to scramble around with not nearly as big-ticket words like “choice” and
“reproductive freedom.” The “life” conversation is often too thorny to even broach. Yet I know that
throughout my own pregnancies, I never wavered for a moment in the belief that I was carrying a
human life inside of me. I believe that’s what a fetus is: a human life. And that doesn’t make me one iota
less solidly pro-choice.

As Roe v. Wade enters its fifth decade, we find ourselves at one of the most schizo moments in our
national relationship with reproductive choice. In the past year we’ve endured the highest number of
abortion restrictions ever. Yet support for abortion rights is at an all-time high, with seven in 10
Americans in favor of letting Roe v. Wade stand, allowing for reproductive choice in all or “most” cases.
That’s a stunning 10 percent increase from just a decade ago. And in the midst of this unique moment,
Planned Parenthood has taken the bold step of reframing the vernacular – moving away from the easy
and easily divisive words “life” and “choice.” Instead, as a new promotional film acknowledges, “It’s not
a black and white issue.”

It’s a move whose time is long overdue. It’s important, because when we don’t look at the complexities
of reproduction, we give far too much semantic power to those who’d try to control it. And we play into
the sneaky, dirty tricks of the anti-choice lobby when we on the pro-choice side squirm so
uncomfortably at the ways in which they’ve repeatedly appropriated the concept of “life.”

Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like
me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-
baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in
whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health
should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.

When we on the pro-choice side get cagey around the life question, it makes us illogically contradictory.
I have friends who have referred to their abortions in terms of “scraping out a bunch of cells” and then a
few years later were exultant over the pregnancies that they unhesitatingly described in terms of “the
baby” and “this kid.” I know women who have been relieved at their abortions and grieved over their
miscarriages. Why can’t we agree that how they felt about their pregnancies was vastly different, but
that it’s pretty silly to pretend that what was growing inside of them wasn’t the same? Fetuses aren’t
selective like that. They don’t qualify as human life only if they’re intended to be born.

When we try to act like a pregnancy doesn’t involve human life, we wind up drawing stupid semantic
lines in the sand: first trimester abortion vs. second trimester vs. late term, dancing around the issue
trying to decide if there’s a single magic moment when a fetus becomes a person. Are you human only
when you’re born? Only when you’re viable outside of the womb? Are you less of a human life when
you look like a tadpole than when you can suck on your thumb?

We’re so intimidated by the wingnuts, we get spooked out of having these conversations. We let the
archconservatives browbeat us with the concept of “life,” using their scare tactics on women and
pushing for indefensible violations like forced ultrasounds. Why? Because when they wave the not-
even-accurate notion that “abortion stops a beating heart” they think they’re going to trick us into some
damning admission. They believe that if we call a fetus a life they can go down the road of making
abortion murder. And I think that’s what concerns the hell out of those of us who support unrestricted
reproductive freedom.

But we make choices about life all the time in our country. We make them about men and women in
other nations. We make them about prisoners in our penal system. We make them about patients with
terminal illnesses and accident victims. We still have passionate debates about the justifications of our
actions as a society, but we don’t have to do it while being bullied around by the vague idea that if you
say we’re talking about human life, then the jig is up, rights-wise.

It seems absurd to suggest that the only thing that makes us fully human is the short ride out of some
lady’s vagina. That distinction may apply neatly legally, but philosophically, surely we can do better.
Instead, we let right-wingers perpetuate the sentimental fiction that no one with a heart — and
certainly no one who’s experienced the wondrous miracle of family life — can possibly resist tiny fingers
and tiny toes growing inside a woman’s body. We give a platform to the notion that, as Christina Locke
opined in a recent New York Times Op-Ed, “motherhood had slyly changed us. We went from basking in
the rights that feminism had afforded us to silently pledging never to exercise them. Nice mommies
don’t talk about abortion.”

Don’t they? The majority of women who have abortions – and one in three American women will – are
already mothers. And I can say anecdotally that I’m a mom who loved the lives she incubated from the
moment she peed on those sticks, and is also now well over 40 and in an experimental drug trial. If by
some random fluke I learned today I was pregnant, you bet your ass I’d have an abortion. I’d have the
World’s Greatest Abortion.

My belief that life begins at conception is mine to cling to. And if you believe that it begins at birth, or
somewhere around the second trimester, or when the kid finally goes to college, that’s a conversation
we can have, one that I hope would be respectful and empathetic and fearless. We can’t have it if those
of us who believe that human life exists in utero are afraid we’re somehow going to flub it for the cause.
In an Op-Ed on “Why I’m Pro-Choice” in the Michigan Daily this week, Emma Maniere stated, quite
perfectly, that “Some argue that abortion takes lives, but I know that abortion saves lives, too.” She
understands that it saves lives not just in the most medically literal way, but in the roads that women
who have choice then get to go down, in the possibilities for them and for their families. And I would put
the life of a mother over the life of a fetus every single time — even if I still need to acknowledge my
conviction that the fetus is indeed a life. A life worth sacrificing.




Mary Elizabeth Williams is a staff writer for Salon and the author of "Gimme Shelter: My Three Years
Searching for the American Dream." Follow her on Twitter: @embeedub. MORE MARY ELIZABETH
WILLIAMS.
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Kill-list 2.0: Obama’s ‘disposition matrix’ maps out extrajudicial murders for
years to come
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US-led drone strikes — the targeted executions of suspected insurgents using remote-controlled, killing machines
from tens of thousands of feet above the Earth — are not about to end.


Unmanned aerial vehicles like the widely popular Predator drone will not be put into retirement by the Pentagon, even
11 years into a so-called global war on terror and the take-down of Osama bin Laden, inarguably America’s biggest
adversary. According to a chilling report published Tuesday evening in the Washington Post, in fact, the most
advanced tactics to decimate alleged enemies without ever bringing them to trial are not being eliminated, but
updated.


Soon the days of a secret Oval Office-penned roster of persons slated for extrajudicial execution will be in the past.
The Post reports that for the last two years, the Obama administration has tried feverishly to develop “a next-
generation targeting list” that will serve as an updated version of the already-in-place death panel of persons
authorized by the commander-in-chief himself to be blown to oblivion from miles above.
In this week’s article, journalist Greg Miller suggests that the White House is ready to do more than just cross
suspected terrorists off their kill-list one-by-one with each subsequent UAV strike. The real-world man-hunt will soon
be operated by means of a “disposition matrix,” more modernized terminology and technology that will let
counterterrorism experts in Washington plot not just who and how to kill, but where to find them and what to do in
order to bring them to justice.


“The matrix contains the names of terrorism suspects arrayed against an accounting of the resources being
marshaled to track them down, including sealed indictments and clandestine operations,” Miller explains. “US officials
said the database is designed to go beyond existing kill lists, mapping plans for the ‘disposition’ of suspects beyond
the reach of American drones.”


Miller goes on to say that these claims have been confirmed by dozens of current and former national security
officials, intelligence analysts and others, and all but explains exactly the algorithms developed and the answers
required to warrant a full-fledged manhunt and execution for any alleged enemy of the state. The disposition matrix, it
would seem, is outlined perfectly in Miller’s report. One question, however, does remain: Why?


The Obama administration has yet to offer an in-depth answer as to why targeting killings are even an option, except
for a single speech delivered earlier this year by Attorney General Eric Holder. Speaking before an audience at
Chicago’s Northwestern University School of Law, Mr. Holder defended the executions by dismissing allegations they
were prohibited, instead saying, “the US government’s use of lethal force in self-defense against a leader of al-Qaeda
or an associated force who presents an imminent threat of violent attack would not be unlawful — and therefore
would not violate the Executive Order banning assassination or criminal statutes.”


Mr. Holder would go on to say, “Where national security operations are at stake, due process takes into account the
realities of combat,” and all but affirmed that the execution of the 16-year-old American-born son of suspected
terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki was authorized by the laws of war. But even after drone strikes have accumulated a death
toll as high as 3,000 by some estimates — and civilian casualties certain to exceed the only acceptable answer: zero
— the White House will not relax their killings but only set up a more structured blueprint for future administration to
follow through with.


“We can’t possibly kill everyone who wants to harm us,” one senior administration official explains to Mr. Miller.


Instead, the White House is willing to forfeit a speedy and extrajudicial execution and will soon be seemingly more
inclined to option a whole other set of rules to govern how America handles any persons of particularly morbid
interest.


“The problem with the drone is it’s like your lawn mower,” Bruce Riedel, a former CIA analyst and Obama
counterterrorism adviser, tells Miller. “You’ve got to mow the lawn all the time. The minute you stop mowing, the
grass is going to grow back.”


That’s precisely why the matrix is being created. One US counterterrorism official speaking on condition of anonymity
tells Miller that “a disposition problem” has plagued the Obama administration because, aside from straight-up
ordered executions, the options are almost nonexistent. President Obama renewed to talk show host Jon Stewart last
week his promise to close the Guantanamo Bay military prison where suspected terrorists are currently shackled by
the dozens, which leaves the US with little methods of dismantling terror cells without a simple search and destroy
mechanism.
By using the matrix, the White House implies that they are willing to work through other means to take down terror
suspects. But don’t worry — the drones aren’t going anywhere. Heavens, no.


“The database is meant to map out contingencies, creating an operational menu that spells out each agency’s role in
case a suspect surfaces in an unexpected spot,” Miller writes. One former counterterrorism official involved in the
architecture of the matrix tells the Post that the program will ideally be executed in cases where foreign targets are
spotted overseas but an Obama-ordered UAV strike isn’t necessarily the best option.


“If traveling overseas to al-Shabaab [in Somalia] we can pick him up by ship,” the source says. “If in Yemen, kill or
have the Yemenis pick him up.”


In recent years, the White House has ramped-up its counterterror tactics by expanding launching pads for drones
around the world. Currently the stealth airships can be dispatched in moments across the Middle East, Arabian
Peninsula or Northern Africa, and domestically they are expected to be cleared by the Federal Aviation Administration
within a year. Even still, though, the expert involved in the matrix says the long-arm of extrajudicial murder still has its
obstacles that even America’s World Police aren’t willing to work around in some situations.


“How do we deal with these guys in transit? You weren’t going to fire a drone if they were moving through Turkey or
Iran,” the counterterrorism expert asks. But while that’s indeed a claim that’s hard to dispute, that doesn’t mean the
White House has decided to censor itself when it comes to cutting back on killings.


“We didn’t want to get into the business of limitless lists,” another former senior US counterterrorism official tells the
Post. “There is this apparatus created to deal with counterterrorism. It’s still useful. The question is: When will it stop
being useful? I don’t know.”


During the first and only televised debate between the candidates vying for vice president during next month’s
election, incumbent VP Joe Biden said America’s goals regarding Afghanistan have been already accomplished and
an exit is imminent.


“The fact is we went there for one reason: to get those people who killed Americans: al-Qaeda,” Mr. Biden said.
“We've decimated al-Qaeda central. We have eliminated Osama bin Laden. That was our purpose. And in fact, in the
meantime, what we said we would do, we would help train the Afghan military. It's their responsibility to take over
their own security. That's why, with 49 of our allies in Afghanistan, we've agreed on a gradual drawdown so we're out
of there . . . in the year 2014.”


Meanwhile, though, the State Department has been reportedly orchestrating talks overseas that will allow US forces
working alongside coalition partners with NATO to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely, a move that would presumably
mean more than just leaving boots on the ground but offer only more opportunities to analyze and execute persons
deemed fit for the disposition matrix.


When Pres. Obama and GOP challenger Mitt Romney squared off during the third and final televised debate this
week, the current commander-in-chief answered a question about foreign UAV strikes without ever once whispering
the dreaded “d-word.”
The president opined quite the opposite of what his running mate said days earlier, telling Gov. Romney, “Keep in
mind our strategy wasn't just going after bin Laden. We created partnerships throughout the region to deal with
extremism in Somalia, in Yemen, in Pakistan.”


“But we're always also going to have to maintain vigilance when it comes to terrorist activities,” Pres. Obama
continued. “The truth, though, is that al-Qaeda is much weaker than it was when I came into office. And they don't
have the same capacities to attack the U.S. homeland and our allies as they did four years ago.”


And perhaps that insurgency has indeed been decimated as both the commander-in-chief and Vice President Biden
suggested. In Mr. Miller’s report, however, he acknowledges that the “metastasizing” of the organization has left
America not just concentrating their efforts in Afghanistan, but instead broadening up their front to find terrorists
anywhere on Earth. Now as America continues its war on terror but without the geographical restrictions of when
President George W Bush first ordered troops into Afghanistan, the expansion of Mr. Obama’s kill list into a lavishly
worded “disposition matrix” suggests that suspects will continue to be combed for anywhere on Earth.


And with a war in Iran seeming the next logical step to ensure what we’re told is peace in the Middle East, the matrix
might soon be muddled with more than just the names of al-Qaeda insurgents.


"We're going to bomb the citizens of Iran?” Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson asked during a debate of
third-party nominees this week. “We're going to find ourselves with another 100 million enemies."


Maybe so. But according to Mr. Miller, though, we’ll at least have a way to take them down. What will happen,
however, when the number of friendly cooperation partners starts to dwindle and few parties are left willing to scoop
up insurgents from the seas outside of Yemen and Somalia and strike them down in the name of America? That’s a
factor that we can only hope is equated into the disposition matrix and whatever mathematical algorithm that Mr.
Obama and future presidents will use to put enemies on ice.

http://rt.com/usa/news/disposition-matrix-kill-obama-146/




U.S. Can Kill American Citizens Without Trial: Eric Holder
In this Jan. 31, 2010 file photo an unmanned U.S. Predator drone flies over Kandahar Air Field, southern
Afghanistan, on a moon-lit night. (AP Photo/Kirsty Wigglesworth, File)

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WASHINGTON -- Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday that the decision to kill a U.S.
citizen living abroad who poses a terrorist threat "is among the gravest that government leaders
can face," but justified lethal action as legal and sometimes necessary in the war on terror.

Holder's comments broke the administration's silence on the legal justifications for its decision to
kill American-born al-Qaida operative Anwar al-Awlaki five months ago in Yemen. In a speech
at Northwestern University law school in Chicago, he described al-Awlaki as concocting plans to
kill Americans but he never explicitly acknowledged the administration responded by targeting
the cleric for death.

Instead the attorney general outlined a three-part test for determining when a targeted killing
against a U.S. citizen is legal. He said the government must determine after careful review that
the citizen poses an imminent threat of violent attack against the U.S., capture is not feasible and
the killing would be consistent with laws of war.

The Obama administration has refused to release the Justice Department legal opinion on al-
Awlaki's killing under the Freedom of Information Act and is in court opposing efforts to have it
made public.
Responding to criticism from civil libertarians, Holder flatly rejected the suggestion that the
Constitution's due process protections require the president to get permission from a federal court
before taking lethal action.

"The unfortunate reality is that our nation will likely continue to face terrorist threats that at
times originate with our own citizens," Holder told a packed Thorne Auditorium, where all 700
seats were filled with law students, who were taking notes on their laptops, were joined by
Chicago-based federal prosecutors and other observers.

"When such individuals take up arms against this country and join al-Qaida in plotting attacks
designed to kill their fellow Americans there may be only one realistic and appropriate
response," the attorney general continued. "We must take steps to stop them in full accordance
with the Constitution. In this hour of danger, we simply cannot afford to wait until deadly plans
are carried out – and we will not."

Al-Awlaki's killing in a joint CIA-U.S. military drone strike on a convoy in Yemen sparked a
public debate over whether the president should have the authority to kill an American without a
conviction and despite an executive order banning assassinations – which Holder called a
"loaded term" that doesn't apply in this case. Until now the Obama administration has said very
little about it publicly as administration officials have debated how much to reveal in response to
the criticism.

The day that al-Awlaki was killed, President Barack Obama said his death was "a major blow to
al-Qaida's most active operational affiliate" and "another significant milestone in the broader
effort to defeat al-Qaida." But he did not acknowledge publicly that the United States was
responsible for the drone attack, which was confirmed by counterterrorism officials.



Al-Awlaki was a cleric who was born in New Mexico and once preached at an Islamic center in
Falls Church, Va. His sermons in English are posted all over the Internet and his name has been
associated with several attempted terrorist attacks. The Justice Department has said that a
Nigerian man who tried to blow up an international flight on Christmas 2009 told FBI agents that
his mission was approved after a three-day visit with al-Awlaki.

Obama administration officials told The Associated Press that Obama approved al-Awlaki's
killing in April 2010, when he became the first American placed on the CIA "kill or capture" list.

"Any decision to use lethal force against a United States citizen – even one intent on murdering
Americans and who has become an operational leader of al-Qaida in a foreign land – is among
the gravest that government leaders can face," Holder said. "The American people can be – and
deserve to be – assured that actions taken in their defense are consistent with their values and
their laws."

Al-Awlaki's father sued to try to stop the government from killing his son, arguing he had to be
afforded the constitutional right to due process. But U.S. District Judge John Bates in
Washington refused to intervene in al-Awlaki's case because he said the courts do not have the
authority to review the president's military decisions.

Holder pointed out that decision in his speech. "The Constitution guarantees due process, not
judicial process," Holder said.

At least three recently filed lawsuits have sought to force the Obama administration to publicly
release its legal justification for the attack, contained in a secret Justice Department memo. The
Associated Press also filed a FOIA request for the memo, which was denied. The AP has
appealed.

Hina Shamsi with the American Civil Liberties Union, one of the groups suing for the memo,
said if Holder can discuss the targeted killing program publicly, the memo should be released
and its position defended in court.

"Few things are as dangerous to American liberty as the proposition that the government should
be able to kill citizens anywhere in the world on the basis of legal standards and evidence that are
never submitted to a court, either before or after the fact," Shamsi said. "Anyone willing to trust
President Obama with the power to secretly declare an American citizen an enemy of the state
and order his extrajudicial killing should ask whether they would be willing to trust the next
president with that dangerous power."

University of Notre Dame international law expert Mary Ellen O'Connell also said the memo
should be released to reveal more about the administration's position.

"From what we know so far, the memo is highly reminiscent of the torture memos written during
the Bush administration, in which irrelevant U.S. cases and statutes are cited in order to give the
CIA a green light," she said. "The relevant international law does not permit targeted killing far
from battle zones."

Holder said it's "not a novel concept" to target enemy leaders for death, pointing out such attacks
were made against al-Qaida's chief Osama bin Laden and during World War II, including
shooting down an aircraft specifically because it was carrying Japanese Admiral Isoroku
Yamamoto, leader of the attack on Pearl Harbor. He said Congress has given the president
authorization to use lethal methods under a resolution passed a week after the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks that authorizes the use of all necessary force to prevent any future acts of international
terrorism against the United States. He said that authority was not limited to battlefields in
Afghanistan, because the nation faces a threat of terrorism from "a stateless enemy, prone to
shifting operations from country to country."

"It is preferable to capture suspected terrorists where feasible – among other reasons, so that we
can gather valuable intelligence from them," Holder said. "But we must also recognize that there
are instances where our government has the clear authority – and, I would argue, the
responsibility – to defend the United States through the appropriate and lawful use of lethal
force."
    Holder said that doesn't mean the administration can use military force whenever it wants and
    that it must respect other nations' sovereignty before acting alone on their soil. "But the use of
    force in foreign territory would be consistent with these international legal principles if
    conducted, for example, with the consent of the nation involved or after a determination that the
    nation is unable or unwilling to deal effectively with a threat to the United States."

    ___

    Associated Press writer Michael Tarm in Chicago contributed to this report.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/us-targeted-killings-eric-holder_n_1320515.html




    West Point center cites dangers of ‘far right’ in U.S.
    By Rowan Scarborough


    The Washington Times


    Thursday, January 17, 2013




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    A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist”
    movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.”
The report issued this week by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., is
titled “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.”

The center — part of the institution where men and women are molded into Army officers — posted the report
Tuesday. It lumps limited government activists with three movements it identifies as “a racist/white supremacy
movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.”

The West Point center typically focuses reports on al Qaeda and other Islamic extremists attempting to gain power in
Asia, the Middle East and Africa through violence.

But its latest study turns inward and paints a broad brush of people it considers “far right.”

It says anti-federalists “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and
tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil
activism, individual freedoms, and self government. Extremists in the anti-federalist movement direct most their
violence against the federal government and its proxies in law enforcement.”

The report also draws a link between the mainstream conservative movement and the violent “far right,” and
describes liberals as “future oriented” and conservatives as living in the past.

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and
in general, are interested in preserving the status quo.” the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme
version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and
practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.”

The report adds: “While far-right groups’ ideology is designed to exclude minorities and foreigners, the liberal-
democratic system is designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.”

The report says there were 350 “attacks initiated by far-right groups/individuals” in 2011.

Details about what makes an attack a “far right” action are not clear in the report, which was written by Arie Perliger,
who directs the center’s terrorism studies and teaches social sciences at West Point.

A Republican congressional staffer who served in the military told The Washington Times: “If [the Defense
Department] is looking for places to cut spending, this junk study is ground zero.

“Shouldn’t the Combating Terrorism Center be combating radical Islam around the globe instead of perpetuating the
left’s myth that right-wingers are terrorists?” the staffer said. “The $64,000 dollar question is when will the Combating
Terrorism Center publish their study on real left-wing terrorists like the Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front,
and the Weather Underground?”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/




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                  Kevin James Barrett

                February 4, 1959 (age 53)
  Born          Madison, Wisconsin, United States of
                America


                San Francisco State University
  Alma mater
                University of Wisconsin-Madison


  Occupation    Journalist, radio host, activist


  Employer      American Freedom Radio


  Organization American Freedom Radio[1]


  Known for     Truth Jihad Radio, 9/11 Truth Activist


  Religion      Islam[2]


                           Website


                       Official Website


Kevin James Barrett (born February 1959) is an American former university lecturer and
Muslim convert.[3] He is a member of the Scientific Panel for the Investigation of 9/11
(SPINE),[4] and is a founding member of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance (MUJCA),
established October 30, 2004 with the stated aim of improving "interfaith dialogue, coexistence,
and understanding" in light of the events of 9/11.[5]

In the fall of 2006, Barrett taught an introductory class called "Islam: Religion and Culture", an
undergraduate course for which he had formerly been a teaching assistant.[6] Before the semester
began, it was reported that he planned to devote a week or two of the sixteen-week class to the
September 11, 2001, terrorist attack and the War on Terrorism. Controversy erupted when it
became known Barrett was planning to discuss conspiracy theories in his lectures.[7][not in citation
given]
       An internal university review found that "although Mr. Barrett presented a variety of
viewpoints, he had not discussed his personal opinions in the classroom" and that the
department-approved syllabus, which included a section on the War on Terror, had been
followed.[8]

The Anti-Defamation League names Barrett as one of the leading promoters of anti-Semitic 9/11
conspiracy theories.


Contents
[hide]

        1 Early life
        2 Recent history
        3 9/11 conspiracy theories
        4 Jews and Zionism
        5 Congressional campaign
        6 Arrested for alleged domestic abuse
        7 Books
        8 References
        9 External links


[edit] Early life

Barrett was born in Madison, Wisconsin in 1959 to Olympic sailor Peter Barrett and University
of Wisconsin–Whitewater professor Laurie Barrett.[9]

In the early 1990s, Barrett received master's degrees in both English literature and French from
San Francisco State University and married a Moroccan-born Muslim woman.[10] He converted
to Islam in 1992, having been a former Unitarian.[3][11]

Barrett returned to the University of Wisconsin–Madison in 1995. The United States State
Department gave him a Fulbright Scholarship in 1999 to study a year in Morocco.[12] He received
a Ph.D. in African languages and literature with a minor in folklore from the University of
Wisconsin–Madison in 2004, focusing his dissertation on the topic of Moroccan legend.[6][10][13]
He has taught English, French, Arabic, American Civilization, Humanities, African Literature,
Folklore, and Islam at colleges and universities in the San Francisco Bay area, Paris, and
Madison, Wisconsin.[3]

[edit] Recent history

In April and October 2007, Barrett did a series of speaking engagements in Michigan, Chicago,
and Wisconsin with William Rodriguez. The month after this tour, Barrett announced to the
press his intention to fly to Morocco to "apprehend accused 9/11 hijacker Waleed al-Shehri."[14]
Unable to locate his quarry, Barrett had to content himself with penning dispatches from cafes,
and a humorous airport story. Barrett began promoting Captain Eric May and his numerological
predictions of upcoming "false flag" (faked) terrorist attacks, none of which ever came to pass. In
early August Barrett spoke at a conference in Madison, "The Science of 9/11: What's
Controversial, What's Not" that featured the notion that TV reporting of the World Trade Center
attacks was faked.[15]

In early October, Barrett started the website "WhereTheyLive.org — Confronting the elite and
their agents WHERE THEY LIVE"[citation needed] which stated as its mission the publishing of
home addresses of evil-doers. Though the website espoused nonviolent principles, Barrett's
simultaneous promotion of the "War on War Week," a series of demonstrations that were to
feature firecrackers and "V for Vendetta" disguises, led some activists to express concern about
the vigilante overtones involved, and after a west-coast 9/11 group voted to deny funding,[16] the
project flopped. Barrett expressed a fascination with the V for Vendetta movie in an interview on
internet radio, adding the claim that apartheid had been ended in South Africa through threats of
violence, and stating that political power grows from the barrel of a gun.[17]

Later that fall, Barrett resigned as head of MUJCA.

Barrett introduced architect Richard Gage at Gage's presentation of "9/11: Blueprint for Truth" at
the University of Illinois Chicago campus on May 30, 2008.[18]

Barrett's "Truth Jihad" internet radio program on Republic Broadcasting Network was cancelled
some time in 2008. As of December the program no longer appears on RBN's schedule[19] and is
omitted from RBN's list of archived programs.[20] The last available archives are from mid-July,
2008.[21] As of November 2011, Truth Jihad Radio was currently begin broadcast on American
Freedom Radio.

"The Dynamic Duo" radio program on Genesis Communications Network ceased to broadcast
after the November 21, 2008 show. Barrett's final live broadcast on that show was on November
7.[22]

[edit] 9/11 conspiracy theories

Barrett first drew attention to his views by publishing guest op-eds in the Madison Capital
Times, in which he alleged that Muslims had nothing to do with the attacks: "As a Ph.D.
Islamologist and Arabist I really hate to say this, but I'll say it anyway: 9/11 had nothing to do
with Islam. The war on terror is as phony as the latest Osama bin Laden tape."[23] Barrett has also
alleged the 2005 London bombings and the 2004 Madrid bombing appear to have been
committed by U.S. or western military intelligence and not Islamic terrorists.

Following a June 28, 2006 talk radio segment on WTMJ, Barrett's views came to the attention of
Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle, U.S. Representative Mark Green, and State Representative
Stephen L. Nass. After conducting a 10-day review of Barrett's past teaching and plans for the
class, UW–Madison Provost Patrick Farrell determined that Barrett was fit to teach. Barrett told
the Provost that his course will spend one week examining current issues, such as viewpoints on
the war on terror which will be based on the discussion on readings representing a variety of
viewpoints.[6]
Barrett has written a largely autobiographical book covering the controversy, entitled "Truth
Jihad: My Epic Struggle against the 9/11 Big Lie," published by Progressive Press in early 2007.
He also edited "9/11 and American Empire" (vol. 2) from Interlink Books, published in Dec.
2006.

Barrett taught the Fall 2006 class he'd been hired for. Comments in students' class evaluation
forms were 73% generally favorable, and Provost Farrell said he'd mostly heard positive
comments about the class.[24]

Also in fall 2006 Barrett began hosting an Internet talk show weekly on Republic Broadcasting
Network titled "Truth Jihad Radio." Twice a week he had another Internet talk show on the
Genesis Communications Network called "The Dynamic Duo," (hosted on other days of the
week by Dr. James Fetzer). Fetzer was by this time becoming controversial in the 9/11 Truth
movement because of his conflicts with Dr. Steven E. Jones, and Barrett's continued loyalty to
Fetzer would come to hurt Barrett's prestige in the movement. The topic of both shows is mainly
conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11.

Toward the end of the Fall 2006 semester Barrett said he would not teach the following spring
due to conflicting plans.[25] He applied to teach "Canterbury Tales" during the Fall 2007
semester, but was not hired.[26] After his old lecturer position went to another applicant and
Barrett was not hired for another position, Barrett alleged that he had been discriminated against
for his political beliefs.[27]

[edit] Jews and Zionism

The Anti-Defamation League specifically cites Barrett as one of the leading promoters of anti-
Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theories as part of a "network of anti-Israel conspiracists who endorse
and reinforce each other's work" who "blame Israel for numerous nefarious deeds and false flag
operations." along with Gordon Duff, who runs Veterans Today, and Alan Sabrosky.[28]

[edit] Congressional campaign

Barrett announced in May 2008 his plans to run for U.S Representative in Wisconsin's 3rd
congressional district as a third-party challenger to incumbent Rep. Ron Kind in the November
2008 election. On May 14, 2008 Barrett sent an email to supporters claiming to have received the
endorsement of WTDY talk radio show host John "Sly" Sylvester. Questions were immediately
raised about this claim, which Barrett was never able to prove. Some said Sly was joking.[29]
Also on May 14 Sean Haugh, the Political Director of the National Libertarian Party, asked the
Wisconsin Libertarians not to nominate Barrett, and stated that he (Haugh) would "go out of my
way to disassociate him from the national LP." Michael Badnarik, Libertarian presidential
candidate in 2004, has signed the 9/11 Truth Statement,[30] and Haugh said he had no problem
with 9/11 Truthers in the Libertarian party. Barrett won 59% of the Libertarian vote in the
primary September 9.[31]

Wearing a V-for-Vendetta mask, Barrett visited Rep. Kind's office in La Crosse, WI on October
2 to deliver a "pink slip" symbolic of Kind's imminent removal from office in the election
November 4.[32] A poll sponsored by the La Crosse Tribune, Wisconsin Public Radio and the
University of Wisconsin–La Crosse and released a couple of weeks later showed Kind could
expect 63 percent of the vote and Barrett 3 percent.[33]

Barrett received the endorsements of 9/11 activists Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Carol Brouillet, Dr.
David Ray Griffin, and Kevin Ryan in late October.[34] On election day Barrett received 2.3% of
the vote, and the incumbent got 62 percent.[35]

[edit] Arrested for alleged domestic abuse

According to the Wisconsin State Journal and the Associated Press;Barrett was arrested in
Madison on September 16, 2008, after police said he violated a Sauk County court order
forbidding contact with his family. He reportedly turned himself in and was released from the
Dane County Jail after posting $500 cash bail. On September 12, Barrett had been charged with
disorderly conduct in Sauk County Circuit Court after being accused of hitting his 13-year-old
son at home on the morning of the September 9, 2008, 3rd District Libertarian primary, which he
won. His wife, Fatna Bellouchi, had obtained a temporary restraining order against Barrett. [36][37]

In October when Barrett appeared in court on the charges, prosecutors filed additional charges
alleging that he had violated a restraining order by sending roses to his wife on her birthday.
"When roses are outlawed, only outlaws will send roses," Barrett said. In December Barrett pled
not guilty to charges of misdemeanor disorderly conduct and bail jumping. He claims his wife
invented the disorderly conduct story as part of a scheme to extort money from him. Barrett's
campaign manager, Rolf Lindgren, had earlier declared Bellouchi's story to be a publicity
stunt.[38][39]

[edit] Books

Barrett has written:

       Questioning the War on Terror: a primer for Obama voters (2009). pp. 160. Madison, WI: Khadir
        Press ISBN 9781427641380 OCLC 441970729
       Truth jihad: my epic struggle against the 9/11 big lie (2007). pp. 222. Joshua Tree, CA:
        Progressive Press. ISBN 9780930852993 OCLC 191216390
       9/11 and American empire: Christians, Jews, and Muslims speak out (2007). pp. 336. (with John
        B. Cobb and Sandra B. Lubarsky) Northampton, MA: Olive Branch Press. ISBN 9781566566605
        OCLC 82169999

[edit] References

   1.   ^ Dr. Barrett's Archives
   2.   ^ Barrett as Muslim
          abc
   3.   ^     The Myth of 9/11 - An American Muslim Speaks Out
   4.   ^ "S.P.I.N.E. : The Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven". Physics 911: Scientific Panel Investigating
        Nine-Eleven. 2009-04-17. http://physics911.ca/members/. Retrieved 2009-08-11.
   5.   ^ Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance
        abc
6.    ^     "Provost review clears Barrett to teach class on Islam" University of Wisconsin–Madison press
      release, July 10, 2006
7.    ^ Curriculum in "UW Instructor Defends Plan to Teach 9/11 Conspiracy Theory in Class", WKOW 27 News,
      July 10, 2006
8.    ^ "A Skeptic On 9/11 Prompts Questions On Academic Freedom", "New York Times", August 1, 2006
                                  [broken citation]
9.    ^ LifeLines — Peter Barrett
        ab                                                                   [not in citation given]
10.   ^ What Makes Kevin Barrett Tick? The Capital Times, July 22, 2006.
11.   ^ 911 Truth Jihad: My epic struggle against the 9/11 big lie
12.   ^ University of Wisconsin–Madison Fulbright Scholar (students), 1998-2005 (PDF File)
13.   ^ The sacred and profane fantastic: Fantasy, reality and Islamic narratives Thesis (M.A.) University of
      Wisconsin. OCLC 608696393
14.   ^ "News: Barrett plans trip to Morocco to seek 9/11 hijacker". The Badger Herald.
      http://badgerherald.com/news/2007/05/04/barrett_plans_trip_t.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
15.   ^ Scholars for Truthiness
16.   ^ Questioning the War on Terrorism
17.   ^ Questioning War- Organizing Resistance: November 5th- Unmasking State Sponsored Terrorism Show
      with Barrie Zwicker, Kevin Barrett, Sherry Clark, and John Leonard
18.   ^ AE911Truth
19.   ^ "Republic Broadcasting Network". Republicbroadcasting.org.
      http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=schedules. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
20.   ^ "Republic Broadcasting Network". Republicbroadcasting.org.
      http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=archives. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
21.   ^ "Republic Broadcasting Network". Republicbroadcasting.org.
      http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=archives.month&ProgramID=25&year=8&month=7
      &backURL=index.php%253Fcmd%253Darchives.getyear%2526ProgramID%253D25%26year%3D8%26back
      URL%3Dindex.php%253Fcmd%253Darchives. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
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      http://911scholars.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=53. Retrieved 2012-
      12-26.
23.   ^ Bin Laden tapes are as phony as Sept. 11's connection to Islam
24.   ^ "News: Students hand Barrett passing grade". The Badger Herald.
      http://badgerherald.com/news/2007/02/13/students_hand_barret.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
25.   ^ "News: Barrett calls it quits for now". The Badger Herald.
      http://badgerherald.com/news/2006/11/13/barrett_calls_it_qui.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
26.   ^ "News: University denies Barrett position". The Badger Herald.
      http://badgerherald.com/news/2007/08/06/university_denies_ba.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
27.   ^ "News: Barrett alleges discrimination at 2 UW schools". The Badger Herald.
      http://badgerherald.com/news/2008/01/21/barrett_alleges_disc.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
28.   ^ Decade of Deceit: Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10 Years Later Conspiracists behind the
      Theories
29.   ^ Election 2008: Kevin Barrett to debate Rep. Ron Kind? Likely. WTDY talker Sly endorses Barrett? Not so
      much.
30.   ^ 911truth.org ::::: 911 Truth Statement
31.   ^ "La Crosse, Wisconsin | News, Weather & Sports | WKBT News8000.com". Wkbt.com. 2012-12-04.
                                                                                                              [not in
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      citation given]

32. ^
    http://media.www.spectatornews.com/media/storage/paper218/news/2008/10/09/News/Angry.Local.R
                                     [broken citation]
    uns.For.Congress-3478663.shtml
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                                  [not in citation given]
    southwestinc,0,2733263.story.
                                                                                      [not in citation given]
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       http://badgerherald.com/news/2008/11/05/incumbent_kind_knock.php. Retrieved 2012-12-26.
   36. ^ Wisconsin State Journal
   37. ^ Associated Press, Portage Daily Register
   38. ^ Baraboo News Republic
   39. ^ Wisconsin State Journal

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         improve this article by removing excessive or inappropriate external links, and converting
         useful links where appropriate into footnote references. (July 2012)


      Barrett's Website
      Barrett's Blog
      The Kevin Barrett case at UW–Madison
      Wisconsin State Journal article on the Nass/Barrett Controversy
      Channel 3000: "Official: UW–Madison Will Allow Controversial Instructor To Teach"
      Campus Watch What Makes Kevin Barrett Tick?
      Kevin Barrett 911 whistleblower on hannity and colmes on YouTube July 6, 2006


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Kevin Barrett: Is Obama killing 'kill list'
critics?
      Posted by DTOM on January 18, 2013 at 8:20am in Current News/Events
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Kevin Barrett: Is Obama killing 'kill list' critics?
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:46PM

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Dr. Kevin Barrett, one of America's best-known critics of the War on Terror,
has raised questions about the death of Aaron Swartz, a prominent info-
warrior and critic of President Obama’s “kill list.”

“As with so many freemasonic assassinations, including that of ‘DC
Madam’ Deborah Jean Palfrey, Swartz was hanged. Naturally the police
are calling it suicide,” Dr. Barrett wrote in an article titled “Is Obama killing
kill list critics?” published on Veterans Today.

According to Barrett, “Swartz’s death raises the obvious question: Can you
criticize Obama’s barbarian, unconstitutional ‘kill list’ without ending up on it
yourself?”

He wrote, “the problem with Obama’s kill list is that it is targeting good
people (like Aaron Swartz) not bad people (like names deleted for reasons
of National Security). The bad people are the ones running the kill list. They
are the ones who should be (remainder of sentence deleted for reasons of
National Security).”

Barrett explained that “So let me hereby state that I am not only an
inveterate opponent of Obama’s kill list, I am so angry about it that I would
support putting an end to it by any means, including (remainder of sentence
deleted for reasons of National Security). So shoot me.”

“Please note that I’m a practicing Muslim, so suicide is out of the question,”
he said.
HIGHLIGHTS

Swartz was openly critical of the White House's policy of drone strikes
against suspected terrorists. Now it's being reported that the founder of the
message board site, Reddit, loudly voiced his disapproval of the White
House's "kill list". Gather.com

"Every week or so, more than 100 members of the U.S. national security
team gather via secure video teleconference run by the Pentagon and go
over the biographies of suspects in Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan, and
"nominate" those who should be targeted in the attacks," Swartz once
wrote on his blog. The New York City medical examiner deemed the death
suicide by hanging, but there are still so many questions about the
mysterious tragedy. Gather.com

Two days after Swartz killed himself in the face of charges he stole journal
articles from MIT, university President L. Rafael Reif said the university will
start an internal investigation into its role in Swartz’s prosecution.
suntimes.com

Swartz faced 35 years in prison for stealing 4.8 million scholarly journal
articles and documents from subscription-only archive JSTOR. The articles
were stored on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology computer
network. suntimes.com

JSTOR later dropped charges against Swartz and chose to open the
archives to the public for free on a limited basis. suntimes.com

“I want to express very clearly that I and all of us at MIT are extremely
saddened by the death of this promising young man who touched the lives
of so many,” Reif said in the statement issued Sunday. “It pains me to think
that MIT played any role in a series of events that have ended in tragedy.”
suntimes.com
In a statement Saturday, Swartz's family in Chicago expressed bitterness
toward federal prosecutors pursuing the case against him in
Massachusetts. Newsday

"Aaron's death is not simply a personal tragedy. It is the product of a
criminal justice system rife with intimidation and prosecutorial overreach.
Decisions made by officials in the Massachusetts U.S. attorney's office and
at MIT contributed to his death," they said. Newsday

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             Per malin k   Reply by Less Prone on January 18, 2013 at 11:37am

       Kill the kill list.

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                                 Per malin k   Reply by apeman2502 on January 19, 2013 at 2:36am


       Obama only shoots in the back.

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                                                     Per malin k   Reply by Patriot Horse on January 19, 2013 at 6:18am


       Great article, and good for YOU Dr. Barrett! Praying protection over you as you
       push journalism to a whole new level of truth! "Kill lists" are for cowards...

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