Grepolis - Negociation

							21:58      Jimmy I am listening
21:59      Arimak me too
                     At the start of the game I asked for a Pact, and it was denied, and then I asked for a
21:59      Jimmy
                     NaP then we were attack
21:59      Jimmy     I think its up to Arimak
22:00      Arimak    why allways me?
22:00      Arimak    i see that, you kenny switch alliance again
22:01      Arimak    why is that?
22:01      Arimak    i don't see the point
22:01      Arimak    of switching
22:01   mib_kjglxg   i switched to get cities, these guys are players like me
22:02      Jimmy     we are all like you
22:02      Jimmy     we all need cities
22:02      Arimak    exactlly, to get cities
22:02      Jimmy     Arimak was trying to get cities!
22:02      Jimmy     is trying
22:02   mib_kjglxg   well not at the sake of each other
22:02      Arimak but if we will be all friends,     , what we will do?
22:02      Arimak drink beer every day?
22:02      Jimmy Kennyh is your alliance goign to pact with both of us?
22:02      Jimmy I like beer
22:03      Arimak me to, not in the winter
22:03      Arimak :d
22:03   mib_kjglxg i just got there, i think there beef is with elite
22:03   mib_kjglxg are either of you Elite
22:04   mib_kjglxg no answer
22:04      Arimak don't get it
22:05   mib_kjglxg the Parcletes are not at war with either of your alliances
22:06      Arimak that's great
22:06   mib_kjglxg Not chaos, not spartan
22:07      Jimmy you are at war with Elite?
                     from my point of view, Spartan Empire is biggest alliance (as a number) from this
22:07      Arimak
                     ocean
22:07   mib_kjglxg   my alliance is
22:08      Arimak    but there are some player who enter in alliance just for "sleep" not to play
                     and spartan empire will have to figure out, what is best for them, can we have a
22:08   mib_kjglxg
                     truce?
22:08      Arimak    and i want to show you that
22:08      Jimmy     We have the most members in this ocean yes, but we are not the largest alliance
22:09      Arimak    jall i want is a alliance with few good players who play well
22:09   mib_kjglxg   would you guys agree that Coalition represents a greater threat down the road?
22:09      Jimmy     agree
22:09      Arimak    The Coallition's are in other oceans
22:10      Arimak    here a 4 or something
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22:10      Arimak    small players
22:10   mib_kjglxg   they will be close soon, bet on that
22:10       kiffen   Hello
22:10   mib_kjglxg   hello
22:10      Arimak    hello kiffen
22:11      Jimmy     you both know Kiffen, she is one of my council members
22:11       kiffen Hi Arimak - who's mib
22:11      Arimak ypu make me look small player with your attack
22:11   mib_kjglxg yep she bailed your ass out!! Lol
22:11       kiffen I was desperate and got lots of support
22:11      Arimak just luck
22:11      Arimak and alot of gold
22:11   mib_kjglxg KEN
22:11      Arimak
22:12   mib_kjglxg gold is king

22:12       kiffen well there is that

22:12       kiffen it can make a huge difference
22:12      Arimak no problem, i'm not upset
22:12   mib_kjglxg good job, kiffen you are a good teamate
22:12      Arimak i had adrenaline at maximum that day

22:12       kiffen I try to be

22:12      Arimak make me fell great
22:13   mib_kjglxg so did i
22:13       kiffen yes it was awesome that way - but what timeing
22:13      Jimmy I have a great core group!
22:13       kiffen Iwas away from home and at a friends that day
22:13   mib_kjglxg okay so we can be buddies now? right?
22:14       kiffen I couldn't even spend as much time as usual
22:14       kiffen I would like that
22:14   mib_kjglxg so would i
22:14       kiffen good players are better friends than enemys
22:14   mib_kjglxg yes

22:14      Arimak
                     hmmm, what can i say, how many players from your alliance replied to you that
                     day?
22:14      Arimak    2 or 3?
22:14   mib_kjglxg   only a few
22:14      Jimmy     not ture
22:15       kiffen   I can check but 25 or so
22:15   mib_kjglxg   arimak makes a stellar point
22:15       kiffen   I have a list
22:15      Jimmy
                     as you know we had to do a land attack so we had many people sending us
                     resources
22:15      Jimmy     4 people were in on the attack but our alliance really came together
22:15      Jimmy     I have to thank you for that!
22:15   mib_kjglxg   it shouldn't have been so difficult though
22:16       kiffen   i got a flood of resources to build those horses
22:16      Jimmy     nothing is easy
22:16      Arimak    yeap
                     You have to remember as an international game not everyone is on at the same
22:16       kiffen
                     times
22:16      Arimak    but now, at least you know who are players and who are not
22:16       kiffen   they responded as they saw the need
22:17   mib_kjglxg   thats why you need alot of varying active players
22:17      Arimak    yes
                     yes - and I've been keeping track of our inactives - the only reason they're still under
22:17       kiffen
                     our flag is to keep tham as private farms
22:17   mib_kjglxg   we all lost something on tuesday, but gained experience
22:17       kiffen yes
22:17      Arimak ok, with that chit chat we are going nowhere
22:17   mib_kjglxg kiffen lost gold
22:18       kiffen experience is priceless
22:18      Arimak what do you propose?
22:18      Arimak kiffen lost gold?
22:18      Arimak
22:18      Arimak you have no idea how many i've lost too
22:18      Arimak

22:18       kiffen that's the choice we make

22:19      Arimak yeap
                     okay so we have a truce, and jimmy you should let us have some innactive down
22:19   mib_kjglxg
                     the road, it would be a good jesture
22:19      Arimak    that truce, for how much time?
22:20   mib_kjglxg   how bout til next friday, or is that too soon
22:20      Arimak    how about reconsider all of us alliance, and make ONE?
22:20       kiffen   well if we have to put a time limit on it that sounds reasonable
22:20      Arimak    with top players
22:20   mib_kjglxg   thought you wanted to play
22:21       kiffen   There are plenty of others we could go after together
22:21      Jimmy     Kennyh, do you speak for your alliance?
22:21   mib_kjglxg   i've never been a fan of large alliances
22:21      Arimak    me neather
22:21      Jimmy     with a world alliance limit at 250, I think your in the wrong world
22:21   mib_kjglxg   i can't speak for my new alliance, i can speak for me
22:22      Arimak    i think all of us talk from himself now
22:23   mib_kjglxg
                     i'm in delos, i've seen wimpy large alliances, i'm in the top point group, we have 70
                     players
22:23      Arimak    if we will agree with something, we have to talk with others from alliace
22:23      Arimak    right?
22:23   mib_kjglxg   yep, i will talk to paraclete
22:24       kiffen   yes even Jimmy would need to discuss with full council
22:24      Jimmy     ^^^ yep
22:24      Arimak    and by other hands, there are not so many cities outside of Spartans
22:24      Arimak
22:24   mib_kjglxg in the meantime, everyone should build, and stop fighting till 9 days
22:24       kiffen but as the leaders we also have sway with then right?
22:25      Arimak right
22:25   mib_kjglxg thats why they should offer innactives
22:25       kiffen personally I don't have a problem with giving you names of the inactives
22:25      Jimmy I will agree
22:25      Jimmy but they are of our choice
22:26   mib_kjglxg i'm a leader in paraclete, we have to kick around the idea
22:26      Arimak same as me
22:26       kiffen that's why we have this initial cease fire
22:26   mib_kjglxg sounds good, we will take your offer
22:26       kiffen that give us all plenty of time to talk to our councils and each other
22:27   mib_kjglxg next friday, are we in agreement
22:27      Jimmy Arimak PM for you? (another Tab)
22:27       kiffen I think we should pland to get together to talk more in the next 9 days
22:27      Jimmy midnight friday
22:27      Jimmy what time do you all play on
22:27   mib_kjglxg okay, we will do that, i'm on all the time, addicted
22:28   mib_kjglxg it's all good
22:28      Arimak good idea
22:28      Arimak BUT
22:28      Arimak let me choose my words
22:28       kiffen No like Berlin time of New york time
22:29      Jimmy what is your game time at this moment?
22:29      Arimak i'm in a strange situation now
22:29      Jimmy Kennyh are you on the same time as SE?
22:29      Arimak my? 10:29 PM
22:29   mib_kjglxg got to talk to a client got to go, be back in 20
22:29      Arimak ok,
22:29      Jimmy so he is 10 hrs behind us
22:29      Arimak i'll talk with jimmi and kiffen now
22:29      Jimmy ours says 21:29
22:30      Arimak 21:29 server time
22:30      Arimak i said my time
22:30      Arimak is 22:30
22:30       kiffen yes we use server time
22:30      Arimak k
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22:31      Arimak jimmi nad kiffen, as i said i'm in a strange situation
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22:31      Jimmy I lost you all
22:31      Arimak i'm here
22:31      Jimmy ours says 21:30 29/11/2012
22:31      Arimak yeap, me too
22:31       kiffen How are you in a strange situation Arimak
22:32      Arimak i have a CS in one of your city
22:32      Arimak
22:32      Arimak again
22:32      Arimak all i say is a inactive city
22:32       kiffen Obviously if we don't know about it
22:33      Arimak i put alot in this, so i cannot get out from that city
22:33      Arimak will be a problem?
22:34       kiffen If
22:34       kiffen it's really an inactive then no prob
22:34       kiffen who is it
22:34      Arimak 4 or 5 days of inactivity
22:34      Arimak i'm sure of that
22:34      Arimak ok, i'll tell you
22:35       kiffen thank you
22:35      Arimak it's bigjless
22:35       kiffen He's on our inactive list
22:35      Arimak i watching for him (or her) for a long time
22:36      Arimak so, this i a situation or not?
22:36       kiffen I don't see why that should be a prob
22:36       kiffen I need to verify though
22:36      Arimak sure
22:36   Arimak the CS is in town
22:37   Arimak for some time
22:37   Jimmy There is no problem
22:38   Arimak i'm sure he has yellow color
22:38   Jimmy we agree that he/she is inactive
22:38   Arimak
22:38   Arimak k
22:38   Jimmy so we have a truce then? till midnight on Friday
22:38   Jimmy (8 day)

22:39   Arimak
                  all i can say is that is a good offer, even i believe that after that 8 days you will get
                  off this island
22:39   Arimak
22:40   Jimmy Yes I plan on it
                  do we want to schedule another cha in a couple of days after we've all had a chance
22:40    kiffen
                  to talk to councils
22:40   Arimak    but that will make game more interesting
22:42   Jimmy     Agreed
22:45   Arimak    so, that's it
22:46   Arimak    we well have to talk inside everybody's alliance
22:46   Arimak    and take a decision
22:47    kiffen   true
22:47    kiffen   but I do think we should plan another talk - even if all we say is still discussing
22:48   Arimak    sure
22:48   Jimmy     lets do another talk thursday before the deadline
22:49   Jimmy     Arimak, your english is very good, by the way.
22:49   Arimak    ok, thursday then
22:49   Arimak    oooo, if you know what a head ake i have
22:49   Arimak    because of specking in english
22:49   Arimak

22:50    kiffen it is a backwards language - we know that but we're stuck with it

22:50   Arimak for you consideration, my wife is a professional translator
22:50    kiffen
22:50   Arimak english and french
22:50    kiffen so lots of good practice
22:50   Jimmy amazing
22:50   Jimmy I know how you feel
22:51   Arimak
22:51   Jimmy when I visited my family in Italy, i was the translator between the two familys
22:51   Jimmy every night I went to bed with a head ake
22:52   Arimak me too, today
22:52   Arimak
22:52   Jimmy sorry
22:52   Arimak i have to leave now
22:52   Jimmy Thank you for your time
22:52   Arimak sleeping my kids
22:52    kiffen nice to meet you
22:52   Arimak nice to meet you too
22:53   Arimak see you on thursday
22:53       kiffen thursday it is

22:55   mib_kjglxg good for me too, thursday
22:55      Jimmy great
22:55       kiffen great then we have a plan
22:57      Arimak yeap
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22:58      Arimak now really i'm going