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					                           A Visit with the Harlot
                                  John Taylor - 1/12/09
                                    (My notes in red)

Background:

The Lord moved me to the east-central portion of Alabama to take a job over the state
line in Georgia. I have been visiting a Southern Baptist church. Since I live in the
boonies, there are not many opportunities for fellowship. The pastor asked me about
joining and I explained that I was baptized into the body of Christ and have no need to
be a member of anything else.

Well, I have been praying to see if I should continue to visit this church. They teach
unconditional eternal security and a pre-tribulation rapture (I did have a meeting with the
preacher and he finally admitted that he does believe if a born-again Christian goes on
in willful sin they can be reprobated - praise the Lord ... but he needs to let it come out
in the sermons). The other night (Saturday), I prayed and asked the Lord to use the next
morning as a sign, that if He did not want me to continue to go visit this church that He
would cause something to prevent me from going that Sunday morning. I woke up next
morning and the Lord allowed me to go to service and Sunday School.

The message was watered down (as many sermons are); reduced to the least common
denominator so any "Christian" could accept it with little chance for offense. In Sunday
School there was a young couple visiting. The man was unemployed and they were
living for free at a trailer park down the road owned by a member of the church. They
have two young children and number three is due next month. The man is scheduled to
join the Army in a matter of weeks. (Note: I met this man and his wife a couple of
months ago and shared the gospel with them down the street from my house but didn’t
realize it was them.) He said he and his wife had been staying up late, concerned over
him getting deployed and what consequences he might face from the Lord if he took
another person's life. The teacher immediately brought up king David said King David
took lives in war and that it was okay, that he would be covered by the blood. I had also
prayed that the Lord would speak for me this Sunday morning and that anything that
came out of my mouth would be from Him. I spoke up and quickly said "No, this is not
right." I shared that the Word says if we "live by the sword we die by the sword; we are
to turn the other cheek; repay not evil for evil; etc." The young man listened carefully to
what I said and was really seeking to know what the Bible said about the matter. The
teacher again pointed out that King David took lives in war and did not obey these
scriptures. I stated that King David was not under our covenant but the old covenant.
Then the teacher said, "Well then he (this young man) will be covered by the old
covenant." I corrected him again with the Word and stated that no one will be justified by
the letter of the law and that it is called a curse. Well, the class ended with many having
turned on me (however, they were very gracious to me overall; this fellowship has a
sweet spirit). This church is right out the back gate of an Army base and many members
are or have been in the armed services. As we were dismissing, I told the young man
that I wasn't disagreeing with them for my own benefit but because I knew what the
Word said about such things and that they were giving him unbiblical advice. He
seemed to accept this. I felt the Lord lead me to go speak further with John and his wife,
Elizabeth.

I ran a quick errand after church and then stopped by the young couple's trailer park to
wait for them (since I had gone to early service, and they went to the late service). I got
out of my car and walked around for a moment. The Lord had me look at their house
(an old small double-wide in much disrepair) and He showed me the numeric address
on the home. It was "91." I immediately thought of 911. I felt the Lord was showing me
that they were only one step or one character away from disaster (I later told John that I
think his disaster could be joining the Army).

The young couple came home and seemed surprised but happy to see me. I explained
that I stopped by to share some more with them. He invited me inside. He and his wife
were not officially married and were going to be married after two days. I said that the
Lord would be pleased with this. They shared that they didn't own a Bible (I have since
given them one). The one they used to read belonged to a grandparent whose house
had burned down and nothing was spared except that Bible. Its front cover was burned
off, except for the words "Holy Bible," and none of its pages were scorched. But the
grandparent was very religious and wanted to keep the Bible. I told them the Lord was
telling them to uncover God's Word and read the Bible.

The young man further explained that they had tried to make it to church every Sunday
morning for the last three weeks but had car troubles each time and this had been their
first Sunday in attendance (I had been back home in Pensacola for exactly the
preceding three Sundays). This, of course, was a sign that the Lord had ordained us to
meet. I have been thanking the Lord for this experience to be used by Him in this small
way.

Footnote: I had spoken to the preacher of the church that morning and asked for a time
to sit down with him to discuss some things that he was preaching that I don't think are
Biblical. We have had this meeting and he was very gracious.

That night (Sunday) I had the following dream.

The Dream:

In my dream, I was in a novelty/amusement park.(Many churches, instead of abiding in
Christ, are abiding in a place which is designed to feed their flesh and satisfy the lusts of
the flesh, the lusts of the eyes and the pride of life. For many people, going to church is
just a novelty or something fun to do for entertainment.) As I reflect on this dream, I was
the only full-grown male in the place(only a mature male has the ability to sow seed).
The park was full of beautiful, young women and they were dressed in a very
provocative manner (representing bodies of individual harlot churches). Some groups of
young women were walking around the park together and were dressed in similar-
looking costumes, while others didn’t like each other and didn’t want to be around each
other (like young, worldly women can be, churches get along with some of the other
bodies and not others -- they can be very catty or self-willed). Their eyes were full of
pride and they spoke of very worldly things. I found myself standing behind one of these
young women and her children in a line for ice cream. (In the Word, milk represents
elementary teachings. Ice cream is altered milk with artificial things added to it to make
it more pleasing to the flesh.) This ice cream booth was the only place to eat in the
whole park (there was no place to order meat or teachings for the more mature). In my
dream, I wasn't going to order anything or partake. (I had been going to this church to
get some fellowship and was not intending to learn from them since the teachings I can
get through UBM are for the more mature.) The woman in front of me in line
(representing the church I am visiting) leaned back on my chest and made a comment
about how strong and muscular I was. She was being very flirtatious (harlot churches
are very good at making you want to become part of their body -- the preacher had
already asked me about joining their church). After she and her children got their ice
cream, I followed them to their table to be with them as they ate. After a few moments, a
male midget who must have worked at the ice cream store preparing the ice cream
came over to me (he represents the preacher -- the one preparing the spiritual food for
us to eat -- he is able to reproduce but not full grown -- and sometimes midgets' children
mature normally and sometimes they end up like the parent). Although I wasn't going to
order any of their flesh-pleasing treat, somehow I didn't have a choice and knew I had to
(I think this is God saying that if we sit under the teachings of apostate Christianity we
are consuming, even if we are really there for another reason). I told him I wanted a
large. He told me the price would be $6 (number of man). I was shocked. I said, "I can
buy a whole gallon of ice cream for $6." I paid him and he walked off to prepare my
order. As we sat, I hoped that the woman across the table would see my wedding
ring(symbol of my unity with my spouse -- I pray this harlot body I am sharing with will
see Jesus in me and want to come out of their apostasy) and know that I was married.
She spoke of worldly things, one time mentioning that her sister (an unidentified sister-
church body) was or is Nicole Kidman's roommate.(Nicole Kidman is a Scientologist;
her roommate/husband used to be Tom Cruise. A lot of new age / eastern teaching is
finding its way into some churches.) The little man from the ice cream shop brought me
my order and it was a very large chocolate milkshake. Then, all of a sudden, the table
we were sitting at just started to move. It would move 10 or 20 feet away then stop for a
moment. Then it would move again. The ones sitting at the table did not have to move
themselves but just moved with the table. (Our table represents what we spiritually eat.
Like the Sunday School teacher who said King David didn’t obey new covenant laws on
non-violence and tried to put us under the OT law. Their doctrine shifts to whatever
seems to make them OK or whatever satisfies their flesh.) I remember drinking the
milkshake and remembering that my body used to not handle sugar well before the Lord
healed me of diabetes. I confessed that I was healed and thanked the Lord and drank
the milkshake with no ill effects(the Lord is saying that the apostate/elementary
teachings won’t harm me). I am taking this as a confirmation to continue to visit this
church until the Lord moves me on. That was the end of the dream.

Comments:
It is not a good idea for any disciple whom the Lord has brought out of the harlot church
system to go back into it in this manner unless the Lord has called you to do that. As we
are taught at UBM, once the Lord matures us to the point that we won't fall for the
seduction of or be harmed by the teachings of the harlot church system, and if He calls
us to it, we may go back in for the purpose of bringing others out. If He sends you back
in for this purpose, He will protect and defend you.




                           Babylon in Christianity
Many ask me what I believe about many of our so called Christian holidays. I have not
celebrated the pagan rituals in "Christianity" since shortly after becoming a Christian.
The Catholic Church merged pagan religions with apostate Christianity and brought in
all the pagan holidays. We are now called to be cleansed of these pollutions before God
remembers them. (Rev.18:4) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come
forth, my people, out of her, that ye have no fellowship with her sins, and that ye
receive not of her plagues: (5) for her sins have reached even unto heaven, and
God hath remembered her iniquities.

This does not mean that I judge those who celebrate these feasts but I do wish they
would grow up and cast out the leaven. Judging the brethren over these things is a
waste of time. In feeding on the Word we will grow up and these things will fall by the
wayside. We don't want to be as the Pharisees who strained out a gnat and swallowed
a camel. This means that we shouldn't major on the insignificant things and minor on
the important things. Those who do these things judge everyone and are judged by
God.

Some related materials (Disclaimer)

Babylon Mystery Religion

The Truth About Christmas

Some of our own related materials

Weak to the Weak

From the '90s

Babylon Ordained
1 (1:20:59)
2 (1:09:43)

From the '80s & '90s
Babylon Our Mother
1 (1:19:31)
2 (1:18:41)

Have Grace with the Babylonians (52:43)




                                     Disclaimer
It shouldn't need to be said that because God's book quotes Satan, it doesn't mean that
He agrees with his thinking or actions on everything. A few, thinking to glorify
themselves, have criticized me for quoting certain Christians with whom I do not even
agree on other issues. These hypocrites do not apply this same rule to themselves
when they quote the national news or other lost or confused sources. For instance, I
found the book "The Bible Code" to be a source of true information, even though that
information is sometimes misinterpreted and even though the writer does not believe in
the God Who encoded His own Word.
I offer to you information here and it is your job to discern it. I should not be judged for
what I have NOT said but what I have said. In every case these people have disobeyed
our Lord's commands to their own judgment. {1 Tim.5:19} Against an elder receive
not an accusation, except at [the mouth of] two or three witnesses. We are to
receive no accusation unless we have two or three reputable witnesses who SAW the
elder commit sin. This is not hearsay found on the Internet or books for which Peter
would be condemned for being the first pope; Jesus would be found guilty for being a
homosexual winebibber Who faked His own death. According to these people we would
be wrong for quoting such people.
We would be guilty by association as the Pharisees did to Jesus, saying that He sinned
because He ate with publicans and sinners or was touched by one who had been a
harlot, even though Jesus did not agree with any of the sins and was not guilty of them
Himself. The modern Pharisees still do this. If they disagree with you on any subject,
they search your site to see who they can dig up dirt on and then apply that dirt to the
righteous. These are wicked people in every case. Disagreeing with the Pharisees is not
a sin. Our Lord commanded us to not judge one another over differences of doctrine.
{Rom.14:1} But him that is weak in faith receive ye, [yet] not for decision of
scruples. {2} One man hath faith to eat all things: but he that is weak eateth
herbs. {3} Let not him that eateth set at nought him that eateth not; and let not
him that eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. {4} Who art
thou that judgest the servant of another? to his own lord he standeth or falleth.
Yea, he shall be made to stand; for the Lord hath power to make him stand. … 10}
But thou, why dost thou judge thy brother? or thou again, why dost thou set at
nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment-seat of God. One
thing Pharisees don’t do is apply the scriptures to themselves; they are always for
someone else.
According to these self-righteous people, if anyone ever did anything wrong in their life,
we can’t quote them or we are guilty of their sin. Nevermind that this person may have
repented long ago or was only guilty by Internet lies. In one case a woman was attacked
by her contemporaries because she was a prophetess living among non-full gospel
people, like Jesus and the disciples among the Pharisees, and was assailed by these
apostates as a witch by association. If we can’t quote anyone who has done wrong you
Pharisees had better rip the Psalms of David out of your Bible. He was at one time an
adulterer and murderer whom God decided to give us scriptures through. You
Pharisees better rip Proverbs out, too. Solomon fell away from The Lord because of his
riches and all his heathen wives and never came back to The Lord. Tear Moses out
because he didn’t honor God when he smote the rock and so wasn’t allowed into the
Promised Land. By the way, I have served the Lord faithfully for over three decades by
His grace and done none of the immorality of these brethren, and yet these Pharisees
assail me. Of course we have a perfect numeric pattern in these men’s writings showing
that only God wrote them. God is big enough that He can use imperfect people to write
perfect scriptures. My concern is that the scriptures are right, not that these men were
always right. And so it is with people we quote -- the teaching, prophecy or dream
should have some redeeming value even if they prophesy in part.
These “perverted” people seek only to draw aside disciples after themselves by
assaulting others, making themselves big at another's expense. This is the spirit of
“faction” and is behind denominationalism. The Greek word for faction is “Erithia”
which means seeking to separate followers through selfish ambition. The root word is
“Erithos,” meaning a hireling. They are bought out by their lusts and jealousy to do evil.
{Jas.3:13} Who is wise and understanding among you? let him show by his good
life his works in meekness of wisdom. {14} But if ye have bitter jealousy and
faction in your heart, glory not and lie not against the truth. {15} This wisdom is
not [a wisdom] that cometh down from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
{16} For where jealousy and faction are, there is confusion and every vile deed.
{Tit.3:10} A factious man after a first and second admonition refuse; {11} knowing
that such a one is perverted, and sinneth, being self-condemned. This is clear that
we are to separate from factious people, not those at whom they rail. {Rom.16:17} Now
I beseech you, brethren, mark them that are causing the divisions and occasions
of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which ye learned: and turn away from them.
{18} For they that are such serve not our Lord Christ, but their own belly; and by
their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent.
If these people come to you to make you sin by accepting an accusation without
witnesses, tell them to obey the word and go first “alone” to the one they accuse.
{Mt.18:15} And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault between thee
and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. {16} But if he hear
[thee] not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or
three every word may be established. {17} And if he refuse to hear them, tell it
unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as
the Gentile and the publican. These wicked people always skip the first two
commands here and go to the third because they seek the glory of man and not God.
These commands of The Lord are to make sure no gossiper or factious person could
destroy the peace of an assembly. Another reason is that if a man had repented of evil
or there were extenuating circumstances the accuser would find this out and not be
found a gossiper by God.
We have even been assaulted by men who use nicknames and pseudonyms to hide
their identity, like cockroaches hiding in the dark. They know that if they in turn were
searched out they would be found to be sinners. {Ps.64:2} Hide me from the secret
counsel of evil-doers, From the tumult of the workers of iniquity; {3} Who have
whet their tongue like a sword, And have aimed their arrows, even bitter words,
{4} That they may shoot in secret places at the perfect: Suddenly do they shoot at
him, and fear not. {5} They encourage themselves in an evil purpose; They
commune of laying snares privily; They say, Who will see them? {6} They search
out iniquities; We have accomplished, [say they], a diligent search: And the
inward thought and the heart of every one is deep. {7} But God will shoot at them;
With an arrow suddenly shall they be wounded. {8} So they shall be made to
stumble, their own tongue being against them: All that see them shall wag the
head. You will notice that these "evil doers" "diligently" "search out iniquities" in
others like the Pharisees that they are but they like to hide their identities and their own
sins in darkness. In scriptures and even in carnal law the accused has a right to FACE
his accusers and are commanded to “go, show him his fault between thee and him
alone.”
Those who seek their own will do not understand that it is also more helpful to light a
candle than to pompously curse the darkness.
Love from your servant in Christ,
David



         Babylon's Faith-Based Initiative and 501(c)(3)
Dear friends,

Assemblies who bring themselves under the 501(c)(3) laws or get involved in the Faith
Based Initiative do it because they are bribed by the state to unduly serve them as the
following articles demonstrate. For the sake of advantage they sign away their freedom
to follow Christ as Lord. That is a sign of a harlot. However to be balanced on this
subject we must teach obedience to the state unless and until we are told to disobey
God. The state makes no demand yet that we sign away our freedom. (Acts 5:29)
But Peter and the apostles answered and said, We must obey God rather than
men.

Unless we are subject to the ordinances of men we cannot be bondservants of God. (1
Pet.2:13) Be subject to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether to the
king, as supreme; {2:14} or unto governors, as sent by him for vengeance on evil-
doers and for praise to them that do well. {15} For so is the will of God, that by
well-doing ye should put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: {16} as free, and
not using your freedom for a cloak of wickedness, but as bondservants of God.

Be careful of those who teach otherwise for they will bring judgment on themselves.
God showed me a rebellion by foolish Christians against the government that would hurt
our cause and raise up many enemies against us. It will even help to bring the U.S. to
destruction. This rebellion will help to push this government toward antichrist.
(Rom.13:1) Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no
power but of God; and the [powers] that be are ordained of God. {2} Therefore he
that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that
withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. {3} For rulers are not a terror to
the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do
that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: {4} for he is a
minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he
beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to
him that doeth evil. {5} therefore [ye] must needs be in subjection, not only
because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake. {6} For this cause ye pay
tribute also; for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually upon
this very thing. {7} Render to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due];
custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.

Ministers who receive salaries contrary to the clear command of the Lord are also
bribed by churches and boards to teach as they expect. {Mt.10:8} Heal the sick, raise
the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons: freely ye received, freely give.
{10:9} Get you no gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses. If a man is sent by
God, He will see to it that he is freely given to. If a man cannot walk by faith, he is not
sent by God.

With this balance in mind some good things can be seen in the following article.

Dave

(Note: If you have a 501(c)(3) you can only preach the government line or you will lose
your tax exemption.)


                      Bush won't intercede on behalf of church

            Episcopalians targeted by IRS for allegedly talking down Iraq war

By Les Kinsolving © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Posted: December 1, 2005 5:19 p.m.
Eastern

Questioned about an Episcopal church that's been targeted by the Internal Revenue
Service for allegedly talking about taboo subjects from the pulpit, presidential press
secretary Scott McClellan said at today's White House press briefing it's not the
president's place to "engage in IRS enforcement matters."

The IRS is investigating All Saints Episcopal Church, a registered nonprofit, because of
a sermon delivered there in which the speaker criticized the war in Iraq and President
Bush's tax cuts.

                                    The Beast's 501c3
                                       Bob Aicardi

Last night for the first time in a good while the Lord was speaking to me in a dream. He
woke me in the midst of a dream and said the Beast is going to again force the eating of
the King's dainties. Well, as I asked "What dainties?" I was told was a number...
immediately the number that the Lord gave me was 501c3. I thought on that as I was
awaking and thought 5 + 1 = 6 and C (3rd letter of our alphabet) + 3 = 6. I thought, there
is a six missing, so I looked at the clock and it read 1:26 or 12 = 6 + 6 and 6 or 666. I
thought, Well thank you Lord, I receive that!

(Note from David: Those who ate the beast's food also bowed down to and worshipped
  the image of the beast in Daniel 3. The three Israelites who refused the beast food
 refused the image too. 501c3 will bribe with tax exemption multitudes to bow down to
                            the beast and preach his line.)

                              A Modern-Day Golden Calf!
                                   David J. Meyer

It was just three days ago, July 15, 2002, when I received a letter sent to me as a pastor
from the U.S. Department of Education in Washington, D.C. As I read the letter, I was
amazed at the contents and realized instantly that an Illuminist plan was unfolding that
would snare many. It is a plan that will prove spiritually fatal to many churches as they
become attached to the antichrist himself!

The governmental letter invited me to Minneapolis, Minnesota, where I and thousands
of other ministers would be trained and led through the entire process of filling out grant
applications for Federal money. This Federal money would be given to form a
partnership between my church, ministry, and the Federal Government. The Feds are
appropriating many millions of dollars to be given to money-hungry churches, who are
willing to form a partnership with the beast! The shocking part is that it is not just the
Department of Education that is to become a "partner" with churches but other
departments as well. In part, the exact words of the letter are as follows: "The workshop
will feature grant information from HHS, HUD, the Department of Labor and the
Department of Justice presented by their representatives of the Centers' for Faith-Based
and Community Initiatives...Ideas for partnerships with federal, state, and local
governments." (U.S. Department of Education, Official Document, July 1, 2002,
Washington, D.C.)

This is a snare with the lure of money! Exodus, chapter 32, tells the story of the children
of Israel forsaking the law of God to dance and rejoice around a golden calf set up by
satanic deception. We have seen the greed and avarice of religion in America, and we
can only imagine how many religious leaders will gravitate toward this governmental
sacred cow and go into orbit around it! Can you imagine your church becoming a
partner through a money-covenant with the Department of Health and Human Services?
How about the Department of Housing and Urban Development or the Department of
Labor? Worst of all, can you imagine your church becoming a partner with the
Department of Justice? You might wonder who would fall for such a gimmick? It is a fact
that 1700 church organizations have already sunk their salivating choppers into the bait
and have become such partners with Uncle Scam! Thus, the trusted pastors have
become modern-day Judas Iscariots by entering into a counter-trade transaction, which
requires that they never preach anything that is contrary to "public policy!" Since public
policy is sin to the first magnitude of every kind, the churches are useless to the
Kingdom of God and are thrust out as salt that has lost its savior! Does your pastor
subscribe to this? Is your church in lock-step with this heinous plot? Find out! If so, for
the love of God and for the sake of your family withdraw from it at once!

                          Internal Revenue Service:
                    PASTORS MUST BE ORDAINED BY THE IRS
                             by Dr. Greg J. Dixon

The most prominent and successful certified public accountant firm in the nation today,
that specializes in keeping churches out of trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, is
now boldly saying to the pastors of America that they not only have to be "ordained by
God, but also the IRS."

They also say that the IRS is dictating terms to the churches by declaring in clear and
no uncertain terms that, "The government doesn't want your Bible, they want your
checkbook!" In seminars all over the US, Chitwood and Chitwood of Chattanooga,
Tennessee, is repeating this startling announcement to pastors and church leaders.
Without so much as a blush, Michael Chitwood, the main speaker, says, besides the
above quotes, "Pastor, if you don't get your house in order, get ready, you are going to
have a jail ministry" as he practically screams out to those present as to what pastors
and church leaders must do to avoid jail time and the confiscation of church property by
the federal government.

Besides giving the pastor his job description, which is based on the Roman Catholic
model of worship and polity, the IRS is demanding many other things that are clearly
designed to make the IRS Commissioner the new head of the churches in America
Some of these demands are as follows: The church must collect a Federal ID (Social
Security) number from visiting evangelists, missionaries, preachers and singers before
they invite them to the pulpit. They must give a Form 1099 to any minister who receives
up to $600 in a years time, which includes missionary support. If the ID is not received,
the church leaders must withhold a jeopardy assessment of 39% on the spot and send it
to the IRS. They must agree to the IRS definition of benevolence. They cannot deal in
cash at any level, but must deposit all offerings into a checking account and write
checks for every purpose. This means, of course, that the church, in order to conduct its
ministry, has to have an Employer Identification Number which must be provided by the
IRS by filing Form SS-4 which a true New Testament church could never do and remain
obedient to her Lord. In fact, church leaders would have to misrepresent the church as a
religious organization rather than a N.T. Church to do so. Other things that pastors and
church leaders are required to do are to be an informer against their members and also
to preach only IRS prescribed sermons. Also, all fund raising material must be
submitted to the IRS for their approval.

The job description for pastors is a list of nine specific sacerdotal duties which again is a
Roman Catholic definition meaning sacred. The Catholic church teaches that these
sacraments, when administered by a priest, are essential to ones salvation. This is
totally opposite to the Bible definition which states that baptism and communion are
memorials of the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, and that they
follow salvation. The nine duties are: baptisms, weddings, serving the Eucharist (the
Catholic sacrament of communion), teaching , spiritual counseling, christenings or baby
dedications, administration of church affairs and the regular conducting of worship
services. If the pastor does a substantial number of these things, he will receive very
lucrative tax breaks. This is in clear violation of the scriptures concerning the doctrine of
the Nicolaitanes which the Lord Jesus said that He hates (Rev. 2:6, 2:15). It is the
setting up of a privileged class of clergy with benefits from the state that lay members
do not receive. Others who minister to the church in the area of music, youth, children,
education and other areas of responsibility don't qualify.

This is consistent with what officials of the IRS told Attorney David Gibbs of the
Christian Law Association (CLA) in 1984 when they said that their definition of church is
"once per week adult worship." They said that they did not consider such ministries as
Sunday school, Christian school, busses, youth camp, vacation Bible school, nursing
home, etc., to fall within their definition of the word "church". This Gibbs/IRS meeting
took place in Washington, DC at the time that the so called champion of Christian liberty
was hammering out a compromise with the Dole Committee (Sen. Bob Dole-R-Kansas)
in the US Senate to bring the churches into compliance with the FICA tax (social
security) laws. This was the deal that would eventually cause the raid and seizure of the
Baptist Temple 17 years later. It's too bad that Gibbs didn't sound the alarm at that time
and call the Bible believing pastors together for a summit meeting to map out a strategy
that could have possibly saved our churches and ministries. The unregistered church
pastors tried, but unfortunately our words fell on deaf ears. The so called "big"
preachers were too busy receiving their tax deductible gifts and building their empires to
be concerned over the future of God's work. Now the enemies of Christ have sprung the
trap and it is too late.

These requirements should be intolerable enough by just the fact that the IRS would
even dare to suggest duties for pastors, but to impose under the penalty of
imprisonment and confiscation of property the same responsibilities of Roman Catholic
priests is nothing short of naked tyranny. Obviously, the inquisition has returned and the
pastors and churches of America are not even aware that it has arrived. The raid and
seizure of the property of the Baptist Temple is the direct result of the pastors and
church refusing to bow down to this new wave of Catholic terror that has come upon our
land. The issue in the Baptist Temple case isn't taxes as the IRS, with the help of the
media, has led the people of Indianapolis and nation to believe. The issue is very
simple. Will the churches of America bow down to the IRS in violation of the first
commandment, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me," or will they bow down to
the Lord Jesus Christ? Our Lord said, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and mammon" (Matthew 6:24). The purge is now on as we hear of
churches and ministries being closed on a regular basis. But there is still no evidence
that the pastors have awakened from their stupor.

The benevolent requirements for churches are beyond atrocious. They are five in
number: food, clothing, housing, medical emergencies and utilities. The church cannot
help with transportation or auto repairs and a myriad of other things that churches have
historically done on a regular basis. The church cannot make loans to the pastor,
members, or others which churches have always done. Obviously, they want to make
sure that the money lenders get their profits even from the poor. Can you imagine the
government of the US limiting a church as to its duties in regarding charitable activity?
There is no subject in the Bible that is nearer to the heart of God than charity. According
to the apostle James, it is the test of pure religion (James 1:27). Paul the Apostle
declares that charity is of higher value even than preaching and sacrifice (I Cor. 13:1-3).
For the churches to debase such a high and noble service to Christ by submitting its
administration to the wicked IRS is beyond belief. How will the preachers of America
give an account of caving into this coercion by an abusive Bush administration who is
continuing with the policies of those before him? How will church leaders face the Lord
Jesus at the Judgment Seat of Christ when He asks them why they violated His clear
commands concerning alms giving? He said, "Take heed that ye do not your alms
before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in
heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as
the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of
men, Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not
thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy
Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly." But now the churches
are required to get the permission of the IRS before helping someone other than in the
manner and purpose that they approve. Then records will have to be kept for the IRS so
that the publicans can make sure that the church is in fact following their guidelines.
And, of course, they expect church leaders to report this alms giving to the IRS so that
they can even gouge the poor for more tribute. And all of this so the churches can keep
their tax exemption and the people can get their precious tax deductions for their tithes
and gifts. As James Dobson's organization said when challenged, "It's just good
stewardship." Thievery, good stewardship? How sad.

It may be that the churches have now gone too far. When they begin building their
dynasties on the backs of the poor our Lord, no doubt, will be swift in His removal of
their candlestick. He said to the church at Ephesus, "Remember therefore from whence
thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works: or else I will come unto thee quickly,
and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent" (Rev. 2:5).

All Churches Now Required to Join IRS Super Church

Two other developments concerning IRS control of churches has risen recently that
should literally send shock waves through the religious community. First, while the
churches are arguing doctrinal positions among themselves, and won't even spit on
each other for the most part, the IRS has now developed its own super church.
Independent Baptists in particular pride themselves in their anti-ecumenism. No
fundamentalist preacher worth his salt would be caught dead at the local church
federation meeting where he has to rub shoulders with a charismatic or liberal preacher.
However, they don't think twice about paying a large fee to go to a Chitwood or CLA
seminar and sit next to one of these religious outcasts to learn how to be a good IRS
approved church and pastor.

It is now a fact that in order to get and keep the tax-exempt status a church must agree
that all religions are equal. The new Application for Recognition of Exemption Form
1023 Schedule A for Churches (Rev. September 1998) demands a declaration to this
effect with the following words at point #3: "Does the organization require prospective
members to renounce other religious beliefs or their membership in other churches or
religious orders to become members? Yes__ No__. If "Yes," describe."

It doesn't take much intelligence to figure out where they are going with this. In order to
be considered a legal church (tax exempt) in America, the church or religious
organization will have to declare that all religions are equal. They will also have to
declare that they do not believe that their doctrinal position only results in converts to
their faith having eternal life. They must renounce this narrow exclusivist position.
Maybe we now know why Billy Graham, Robert Schuller, Pat Robertson, and other TV
preachers have been making such fuzzy remarks about adherents of other religions,
though sincere, going to heaven without receiving Christ. In that tax exemption is
government subsidy, according to the Supreme Court in the Bob Jones University case,
it is now clear that the US government will not support any religion that clings to the
narrow minded belief that salvation is in Jesus Christ alone. Remember? "Come
Shekels, Come Shackles." The world church isn't coming; it is already here, and the
preachers don't have a clue as they go merrily along hand in hand with the Great Harlot
to the wedding with the anti-Christ. (Rev.17).

US Government Through the IRS Outlaws Preaching on Second Coming of Christ

One of the reasons the IRS gave to Texe Marr's Living Truth Ministries for removing
their tax exempt status is as follows: "Much of the material you disseminate promises to
address possible conspiracies or threats, either from individuals, groups or various
agencies, against Christianity, freedom or other rights. This is evident from a review of
your newsletters and order forms. The titles and promotional materials are designed to
sensationalize and grab the readers attention. They usually imply that the works will
expose certain prominent groups, individuals, politicians or government agencies as
being part of or linked to some threat or conspiracy." One of the titles that the IRS gave
as an example included "Bible Prophecy and The Conspiracy."

Any grade school child in Sunday School knows that you can't teach or write on Bible
prophecy without dealing with the second coming of Jesus Christ. But just as the
Russian pastors under communism were forbidden to speak on this subject, we are now
coming to the same place in our beloved land. It is obvious that if one believes in the
literal return of the Lord Jesus Christ that they will be considered a domestic terrorist. In
that the Lord Jesus will destroy wicked government upon His return in great glory and
break the back of Gentile world rule, this message isn't popular with the in-for-hells and
the high-heeled-belles that run our country today. Of course, they don't believe that He
is coming, but they believe that we who do will be involved in what they call self-fulfilled
prophecies and try to hasten His coming by blowing up everything in sight. Further
evidence of this type of anti-Christ thinking surfaced recently when a brochure put out
by the FBI in Phoenix, Arizona, named "potential domestic terrorists" that law
enforcement should be aware of. One of those groups is "Doomsday/Cult-Type."
Obviously, this would include all Bible believing preachers and churches in America. We
not only believe that there will be a literal doomsday, we believe that the Lord Jesus
Christ will bring the doom when He comes (Rev. 6:12-17). It won't do any good to claim
that your church is not a "cult". The IRS definition fits the average Bible believing church
to a tee. Â

Many have asked if we can actually show them this in the law. Our answer is no, we
can't because you won't find a specific law that says that you can't preach on the
Second Coming of Jesus Christ in America today. That's because they don't have to
write a law to gain the same effect. All Congress has to do is to give an outlaw agency
like the IRS a carte blanche privilege of making up their own so-called laws as they go
along. The churches agreed to this when they signed their tax-exempt contract. They
said that they would obey all laws, federal, state and local, presently and in the future.
But they apparently didn't read the fine print. The new churches filing for tax exemption
must agree to the following: "The Corporation or organization shall have no power to
take any action that would be required for a tax exemption under Internal Revenue Â

Code Section 501(c)(3) and related regulations, rulings, and procedures." It is now the
"procedure" of the IRS to refuse tax exempt status to those churches that will not agree
that all religions are equal and who refuse to join through tax exemption, the world
church. Also, preaching on Christ's coming is taboo.

For those churches which are foolish enough to believe that Sec. 508 of the IRS code
allows an automatic exemption for churches, need to read it again. It doesn't say
"exemption," it says, "...churches have a mandatory exception." The exception is from
filing a Form 1023 to make application for not for profit status. Here is the kicker.
Churches have to abide by the same rules that those that do file for this privilege. And if
they do not, the IRS can, and most assuredly will, remove their tax exemption. The only
thing missing is the annual Form 990 that other religious organizations have to file.
When this is required, the churches will be under total control of the IRS with no wiggle
room.

In the Baptist Temple court case, the church learned that a New Testament Church
does not legally exist in the US today because there are no longer any First Amendment
protections left. The genius of the First Amendment and various religious freedom
clauses of the fifty states is that, for the first time in history, a N. T. Church could exist
legally without having in the words of the IRS a "distinct legal existence." Now even a
N.T. Church will be assigned by force the legal status of an association and will be
expected to meet the same standards that the not for profits have to meet. But, they still
won't have their God given right of a non-taxable status. This status is in contrast to an
exempt status which is a privilege not a right.

IRS Agent Says That Churches are Trapped

The evidence as to what we are saying, though denied by most preachers, was made
clear on January 24 this year in Tampa, Florida. IRS agent Melvin Blough testified in
federal court that "once a church obtains the status of 501(c)(3) under the IRC they are
trapped. The only way to be removed from a 501(c)(3) status is if the IRS chooses to
remove the exemption. So if you dissolve the corporation and continue on as ABC
church, an unincorporated church, you're still trapped in their web and under their
control." He further testified that a church is automatically exempt under federal law
without a 501(c)(3) designation. He also stated under oath that churches request the
status just to get the governments stamp of approval. Even though Blough used the
word "exemption" rather than "exception," he is essentially correct in his assessment of
the plight of the churches of America. It is obvious that, regardless, the result is the
same.



"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances." (Third article of the Bill of Rights)

Not only in America but Everywhere THOSE ARE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS For which you
MUST EARNESTLY CONTEND to Keep or SURRENDER. Those Rights to be FREE
FROM a State Religion - To be FREE to Speak the TRUTH of your Faith and
Conscience - To be FREE to Preach To be FREE to Publish - To be FREE to
Peaceably Assemble - To be FREE to Speak Against Evil in Government - THOSE
RIGHTS ARE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS THAT ARE SURRENDERED WHEN ANY
CHURCH INCORPORATES (501c3)



ANY SUCH CHURCH CANNOT HAVE JESUS CHRIST BE LORD IN ANY WAY BUT A
                         VIRTUAL WAY.

        THEY ARE CAESAR'S CHURCHES. THEY ARE STATE CHURCHES.

            THEY ARE NOT CHURCHES OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
THE PROOF SHOULD BECOME VERY OBVIOUS. SUCH CHURCHES MAY HAVE A
FORM OF GODLINESS, BUT BY SIGNED CONTRACT, HAVE DENIED THE POWER
                             THEREOF.



  DOES ANYONE RECOGNIZE A VIOLATION OF A COMMAND OF THE WORD OF
                      GOD GIVEN IN 2 Tim 3:5?



 The judgment of the Almighty has already begun on the Harlot Church and the Beast
                                 which she serves.

                                  Who then, will YOU serve?



After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great
authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with
a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a
dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every
unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of
her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and
the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her
luxury." And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my
people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her
sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." -Rev 18:1-
5



         TITLE 26, Subtitle A, Chapter 1, Subchapter F, Part I, Sec. 501(c)(3)

Internal Revenue Code that list's organizations that shall be exempt from taxation and
reads as follows:

Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated
exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or
educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition
(but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment),
or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of
which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of
the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence
legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not
participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any
political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.



By law, the 501(c)(3) church may not:

preach 'politically incorrect' sermons

influence legislation

participate in political action

endorse candidates

oppose candidates

publish or distribute political positions

Perhaps this is why the organized church today is silent concerning the actions
of antichrist government. Today's 501c3 preachers and presidents are ignorant if
they do not know what is happening. Then what are they doing preaching? The
truth is they are hypocrites who say they are "Christians." Many want us to
believe we should be happy with "Christian" president Bush, who performs the
same act as they do. This silence and cover-up advances the antichrist global
government. However it is that time when Jesus told us the pulpits would be full
of FALSE TEACHERS coming in His Name. By silence they even cover-up for the
likes of Traitor, Mass Murderer, Whoremonger, and liar Bill Clinton. They are
trying to serve two masters.

Perhaps if we had real churches we would have real preachers. A real preacher
would preach the Law to the oppressor and Liberty to the people.



The worst form of tyranny is when the people do not know they are slaves.

The True God sets free from bondage. The One True God is known as the God
who led the children of Israel to freedom from the bondage of slavery in Egypt.
Jesus Christ is the TRUTH in a person. Very God come in the flesh, to die as the
perfect Lamb of God on a Roman cross to Redeem SINNERS. He said if the Son
shall set you free, you shall be free indeed.



Pastor Paul Revere has some good thoughts on the subject:
                           Unbelievers are Running Church

Not only is the State run by unregenerate men, but the unregenerate are trying to run
the Church. They have not been baptized of Him, neither do they know Him, and yet
they are running our Church!

You don't believe the Church is being run by unbelievers? Ask almost any church in
America about their connections with the State. We know what the Scripture says,
"What communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14) Yet almost every
Church is joined to the State through State incorporation.

The Scripture at 1 John 4, verses 1 through 3 gives a "religious test" that needs to be
given to anyone claiming an interest in the Church. It says:

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the
Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is
of God; And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is not of God; and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it
should come and even now already is it in the world.

That is an important passage. Does the State pass this religious test? No. The State
does not confess Jesus Christ. Therefore, if your church is a State corporation, you
have antichrist in your church.

Instead of confessing Jesus Christ, the State offers "freedom of religion." These are two
very different things. To confess Jesus Christ is to confess one faith, and one faith only.
One Lord, and One Lord only. But "freedom of religion" allows many gods. You can be
of any faith, worship any god, or even be an atheist.

If the State is antichrist, then how can it be a legitimate government? Why are we, as
believers, obligated to obey antichrist? For "they have set up kings, but not by Me. They
have made princes and I knew it not. Of their silver and their gold they have made them
idols, that they may be cut off" (Hosea 8:4).

                                    Nature of Church

Let's look at the other side. What is the nature of the Church supposed to be? The
Church is headed by Jesus Christ and is based upon positive law. It basically boils
down to being obedient to the great command of Jesus Christ: "Love God and Love thy
neighbor as thyself." Love fulfills all the negative law.

Under the light burden of Jesus Christ, with its one commandment to love, you don't
have to worry about the thousands and thousands of negatives laws. The State, with all
its negative law, is completely fulfilled in Christ. (Galatians 5:14)
The Church is supposed to be run by "regenerated" people, those who have been born
again and baptized of Him. And for a Christian, there is no freedom of religion. A
Christian has only one Government, one Body, one Head. And that Head is Jesus
Christ. We cannot go out meddling with other gods and obeying them. If we do, we
cease to be a Christian.

Now, can the State and the Church mingle? Can negative law and positive law mingle?
It is an impossibility. That is why one is the antichrist and one is the Christ. Yet, look
around. Today we find antichrist in our church. And we find antichrist capturing almost
every soul. Soul after soul is weighed down by the heavy burdens of negative law. And
what is preached in the churches is not positive law. It is Statism: "Obey the law of the
land."

                                     Camel Sneaks In

What happens when the State gets an interest in the Church? The best way to illustrate
is by an example. Remember that old story of the camel? It is cold outside, really cold. I
am in the tent keeping toasty warm, huddled around a fire. It is a small tent, but it is
adequate. I hear a noise and look over at the door. The camel moves his nose under
the tent flap and now I see the camel's nose. I slap his nose and say, "Get your nose
out of here!"

But the camel says, "I'm so cold out here."

I have a little compassion and say, "All right, maybe it is okay if you just warm your nose
in the tent." Soon the camel has his whole head in the tent. "Wait a minute. Get your
head out of my tent!"

"But it is freezing cold out here," cries the camel.

You know the rest of the story. The camel, step-by-step, moves into the tent. Soon the
whole camel is in the tent and I am out in the cold. The camel, being much bigger, has
pushed me out.

The camel started out with just a nose in the tent, but soon he took over the entire tent.
What about the State poking its nose in the Church? Don't you think the State will be
like the camel and continue taking over more and more of the Church? No longer will it
be the Church of Jesus Christ. It will be a State church. In fact, as soon as it lets the
State in, it ceases to be the true Church because Christ is no longer the Head.

                                      Zero Tolerance

If you have a fine garment, but one of the threads running through it is rotten, the whole
garment is ruined.
What about a thief who breaks into your house? Would you let him stay for maybe an
hour? Oh, you don't want him there that long because he is packing up your things?
Well, would you let the thief stay five minutes? How about two minutes? No, you don't
want the thief entering your home at all.

You say you are married. Would you let your wife go out with another man once a
month? How about once a year? No, you don't want your wife to commit adultery, not
even once! I can't blame you. God instilled in a man and wife the desire to be faithful to
each other for the rest of their lives.

When it comes to the Church, the forest is made up of the trees. We are the trees of the
forest. We, as individuals, are the Church. Therefore, if the trees (individuals) are of the
State, then it is a State church. It is not the pure Church with Jesus Christ as the Head.

We must separate from the unbelieving State and be born again. We must be found in
Him. We must draw the line to where Christ is all and in all. There cannot be other gods
numbering, licensing and commanding our lives. "Whether therefore ye eat or drink, or
whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God" (1 Corinthians 10:31). For Christ is all, and
in all (Colossians 3:11). That leaves no room, as far as I am concerned, for a secular
life.

                                  New Head of Church

What happens when the State gets an interest in the Church through State
incorporation? First of all, the Church gets a new head. It must surrender the Lordship
of Jesus Christ because it has a new master to please. It becomes an entity that the
State has created and what the State creates, the State controls.

Since this entity is no longer God's creation, but the State's, who takes over as the head
of this church? It is the State attorney General. He is the head of all State corporations,
including State churches. The State attorney General has the authority to scrutinize the
church on land use issues, permits, taxes or even what is preached from the pulpit.
Right now the attorney general might keep his nose out. But if the State church starts
getting into politics or using funds irregularly, the State can come in and shut it down
because they own the church. In California, the attorney general has taken over the
records of various State churches and all funds received or paid out are controlled by
the attorney general. A State incorporated church has no right to privacy and all its
books and papers can be examined by the State and federal governments at any time.

A corporation, by operation of law and by definition, is a State creation. But the Church
is a God-instituted creation. When the "First Baptist Church" registers as a State
corporation, it is given the franchise name of "First Baptist Church, Inc." It is no longer
God's Church; it is the State's corporation. It is a State church.

Neither is the pastor the earthly head of the incorporated church. The pastor is just a
hireling of the corporation. The pastor is an officer of the State, doing State business. As
an example, when he conducts a marriage, he does it "under the authority of the State."
He makes sure all the paperwork is prepared and the required State fees and licenses
paid.

Then the State church is required to install "unscriptural officers" that are subject to the
State. They are not subject to the Scripture. They are normally referred to as "trustees."
They may take on other titles, such as "elders" or "deacons," but they are basically the
same type of board of trustees that any State corporation has. They sit in office at the
pleasure of the State.

The corporate officers of a nonprofit corporation are agents for the State. That is why
they hold regular meetings and abide by their Articles of Incorporation and By-Laws.
These provisions are required for State purposes, not by the Scriptures.

                        Church Becomes Commercial Enterprise

Technically, a State incorporated church is just another State business. Just like other
State corporations, churches are commercial enterprises competing to attract
customers (members). Such entities cease to be the church when they allow the State
to register them as a State corporation. The church becomes a marketplace and big
business. When this happened in the first century, Jesus upset the tables of the money
changers, and drove the merchants out saying, "Get out of here! How dare you turn my
Father's house into a market!" (John 2:16).

Let's say the Church acquires property and says, "We have God's property here and we
are going to build a church for the Lord Jesus Christ." Then they go out and incorporate
with the State. The State requires that they appoint trustees to hold this property in trust.
But they will not be holding it in trust for God. They will be holding it in trust for the State.
By incorporating, all property held by the Corporation is transferred from God to the
State. This is done by operation of law.

The State incorporated church must exalt the laws of men above the laws of God. The
State church has a relationship with the State by contract and is answerable to the State
as its creator. It must abide by all the laws of the State, even the ones that are still in the
minds of men.

The State church is subject to all the legislative decrees of the State, which is negative
law. When something new comes up, the State makes more laws because that is the
nature of negative law. If the State should pass a law that is repugnant to the State
church, it still must obey. Charters for State churches must include provisions to obey all
the laws of the State or lose their franchise.

In a State church, there are people outside the immediate membership who have
control of the church because it is a State institution. The State can stick its nose further
and further into the church so that the church conforms to the State. For instance, the
scripture forbids homosexuality, but the State condones it. Therefore, the State church
must allow homosexuals to be members of their church. It is public policy. Some State
churches even have a homosexual, unregenerate minister preaching to the
congregation.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that a corporation is a State creation, that it is State
property and that it is answerable to the State.

                            Alien Jurisdiction over Church

A corporation is not a church and cannot be a church by definition. A corporation admits
to State jurisdiction by the very act of requesting permission to exist. What we have in
the churches today is analien jurisdiction.

Let's look at who is to have jurisdiction over the true Church. In Colossians, Chapter
1:18, it says Jesus Christ is the head of the body, the Church, and He is to have the
preeminence. Christ is to have the exclusive preeminence. He is to have the exclusive
jurisdiction over His Church.

What about those little matters where the State wants to encroach? The State presents
many compelling arguments to justify their interest in the Church. There is zoning and
building permits, fire and safety, asbestos and teacher certification of schools.

If God tells you to put up a building at the corner of High and Second Street, should you
worry about zoning? What if the State wants the Church to get a building permit?
There's that old camel's nose trying to get in again. What about safety regulations?
Aren't they for a good purpose? Isn't the State just trying to help? Yes, the State wants
to help, but remember, their help is coming from unregenerate men. How smart do you
think the camel was? What interest did the camel have inside that tent? He really had
no business inside. Yet he presented a good argument. He said he was cold. The State
has a good argument, too. They say, "It is for the purpose of safety." But don't you think
Jesus Christ can look out for the affairs of His own people?

In all of these areas, we face a claim of alien jurisdiction over the Church. We face a
violation of the sovereignty and preeminence and Lordship of Jesus Christ. That is why
we have to draw the line and have zero tolerance. If the State wants to exercise
jurisdiction over the Church, how much jurisdiction can they take without violating the
exclusive authority of Christ over the Church?

The only Biblical stance on jurisdiction is that no branch of the State - the courts, the
legislature, the administration, has jurisdiction over His Church. The State cannot
exercise any authority over the Church or her property because it is all God's. And God
is sovereign. If God is sovereign over the Church, He has to be sovereign over it all: the
people, the ministry and the property.

What about filling out State forms for tax exemptions? To fill out a form, is to ask for
permission. Because you have requested a privilege, they have a right to say "yes" or
"no." Taxation is a function of a sovereign over a subject. Why would the child of one
sovereign ask permission from another sovereign? It does not even make sense. It is
like my child going to some other parent and saying, "Daddy, can I do this?" Someone
else's Daddy does not have authority to grant the request. You have to have the proper
relationship in order for a request or a command to be acknowledged. "Nontaxable" is
the only acceptable status for Church property because it belongs to another sovereign.

                          Members Must Also be State-Free

Remember that the forest is known by the trees and the Church is known by its
members. There are many churches who are unincorporating from the State. That's a
step in the right direction, but they need to also have their members sever their
connections with the State. All the members need to be born again as creations of
Jesus Christ.

An unregistered, unincorporated church is still a State church if the congregation is full
of State residents. Embassy of Heaven Church desires that those who want to
participate be born again and separate from the kingdoms of the world. Intercourse with
the world is adultery. It is not sanctioned by God. We need to come out from among her,
both as individuals and as the congregated body of Christ. The State has no place in
our Church. If they want in, they must go through the same Door we went through. They
must be born again and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is our Sovereign and our Lord.



What about in Acts 22, where Paul claims to be of Roman Citizenship?

If the authority does not confess Jesus Christ, can it be an authority ordained by God?
God may allow; but, God did not put the spiritual wickedness in high places that we
wrestle against.

Paul was a converted man. He used to be Saul. He used to approve and lead in
persecuting Christians. The Apostle Paul, had to stop being a Pharisee, be blinded,
knocked off his horse, and finally die to the world, by the hand of force of Roman
government. That was FORCE which removed Paul's head, NOT powers ordained by
God.

Remember, Daniel tells us an interesting thing about the antichrist beast of the last days
in Dan 11:38. But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces: and a god whom his
fathers knew not shall he honor with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and
pleasant things.

The thief does not use power and authority. He uses FORCE. We do not resist power
which comes from God. We resist Force which comes from the god of this world. The
kingdoms of this world are against the power of God. It is obedience to God to resist the
devil. The thief wants us to think they have power but really they only have FORCE.
Are Christians to submit to the state? Setting up churches in obedience to Jesus Christ
was such DISOBEDIENCE to Caesar that Caesar chopped Paul's head off. Paul was
constantly in trouble with the forces of religion and state. He was let down in a basket to
escape the forces of state rather than to submit to them. Paul lived the Law of Love, the
Law of God, and paid the necessary price of living the Law of God, which requires the
resistance of the force of religion and state.

What about Acts 22?

If the Apostle Paul was Caesar's friend, out there telling people to submit to Caesar,
why would Caesar have Paul's head cut off. Paul was found guilty of having people
obeying Jesus Christ as a higher authority than Caesar. That was the treason for which
Caesar beheaded him. Caesar had Paul beheaded because he was promoting the
Kingdom of Heaven rather than the kingdom of Caesar.

Paul did claim Roman citizenship. Citizen is one who belongs to a state. Paul became a
citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven. He later made that clear.

Acts 22:25-28 And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that
stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned?
When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed
what thou doest: for this man is a Roman. Then the chief captain came, and said unto
him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea. And the chief captain answered, With a
great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.

The chief captain had to pay for his Roman citizenship rights. Paul admitted, to the
question, art thou a Roman, YEA. Some would say Paul made a mistake. The year was
circa 58AD. He was arrested circa 60AD. He was beheaded circa 67. He wrote
Philippians circa 63.

Acts 26:32 Then said Agrippa unto Festus, This man might have been set at liberty, if
he had not appealed unto Caesar.

There are many who would agree with Agrippa and say that Paul was indeed in error
with his claim to Roman citizenship. He sure did make it clear later in Phil 3:20 For our
conversation (citizenship G4175. politeuma,) is in heaven; from whence also we look for
the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

That was very clear. Later in Philippians it was it very single minded. Heaven citizenship
in the kingdom of Jesus Christ ONLY.

Paul, early on, did claim Roman and Heaven citizenship. However by the time he could
see the end, (Phil 3:20), Paul was single minded.

The Chirstians today are doing the same with the dual citizenship with their 501c3
churches. We do now see the end coming.
Jesus said you can not serve two masters. Choose ye this day whom you will serve. I
say choose life. Jesus is the life. Jesus gives eternal life. The kingdoms of this world are
about to become the kingdom of the Lord and of His Christ. We can see it coming as
surely as Paul knew that Roman government was going to take of his head. SAME
NOW for us. Time to be single minded as Paul finally had learned and taught us through
Phil 3:20.

Peter, in Luke 22:31-34, said he was ready to go with Thee to prison and to death. Then
in verse 54-62 we see Peter deny Christ.

Paul said he had dual citizenship with Rome. If we say what Paul did justifes our 501c3,
then will we also follow Peter in denying Christ? Peter repented. Jesus then told Peter,
after 3 times asking do you love me, to feed My sheep.

Paul also repented. He is an example to us. By the time Paul could see the end, he
taught us through Philippians that it must be King Jesus and His Kingdom of Heaven
ONLY.

Jesus is OUR example and gives a clear answer. In John 18:35-40 Pilate answered,
Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what
hast thou done? Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were
of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence. Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king
then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for
this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one
that is of the truth heareth my voice. Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he
had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no
fault at all. But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the Passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews? Then cried they all again,
saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.

Jesus is the example. He clearly taught us He is THE Way, THE Truth and The Life.
False gods are coming down. The choice of which god we will serve is going to made
final one way or another soon. Choose this day. Choose Life. 1 Pet 2:9-12 But ye are a
chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should
show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous
light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had
not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Dearly beloved, I beseech you as
strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against
you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in
the day of visitation.
Richard Eutsler says:

                 Is the Church in trouble today? The answer is YES!

Mark 8:15 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware o the leaven of the
Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.

Many people have heard of this verse and remember the part about the Pharisees, but
how many remember or even talk about Herod's part?

The Pharisees represented the religious rulers and teachers of the Old Testament
Church. They had changed God's Word that was handed down by Moses and the
Prophets to be held in trust for the people, that they may know the One True God and
recognize Him when He came. Because of them Jesus came to His own, but they did
not know Him. (John 1:11)

Herod represented the Government and it's ties to Rome. It was a false government that
was not in line with God's will. Herod allowed the money changers to come in and spoil
the wealth of the nation. What was worse, he made an allegiance with the Pharisees to
propagate this fraud on the people of God in Israel. If one looks closely, an alliance
between Herod, the Pharisees and the Money Changers (a type and shadow of a trinity)
had been formed. This is the same kind of alliance that will be formed under the Anti-
Christ when he comes! Remember, he has the number of a man, 6! He will control (be
the head of) the Government (6), Church (6) and the World Monetary system (6). That
gives the Anti-Christ his number of 666!

Today, in America, we can see the foundation of this system in place now!

People talk about the separation of church and state in America today, but I say that
except in a VERY few cases, THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
IN AMERICA! The State Church is the 501c3 Incorporated church regardless what
name it goes by or what denomination it calls it's self! It works like this:

The state "creates" the corporation. The IRS grants the church a 501c3 tax exempt
status, which under law it already has. (Note: All abortion clinics are also 501c3
corporations.) The minister becomes by default the officer of the state! The minister is
acting as an agent of the state government when he tells you to get a marriage license.
This marriage license is a contract between the husband, wife and state. The minister is
acting in the interest of the state not the husband and wife! No, he is acting in behalf of
his god! By deceit, his god, the State, is given control over you and your family! This is
why the state has the authority to control families without due process of law. Jesus said
in Matthew 6:24, No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and
love the other, or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve
God and mammon.
How can a man of God serve the Government/IRS, and God? He can't! He will hate the
one and love the other, or obey one and not the other! Remember, the 'love' in verse 24
is "agapao", a love of decision, not feelings. How many preachers have sold out to the
god of money and changed God's Word?



The Gospel Plow says:

Is your church government licensed and approved? The incorporation of the local
Christian assembly and application for the 501c3 tax exemption is indeed the proof of
such apostasy.

                           The Ecclesia vs. the Corporation

The word the Bible uses to describe the church is the ecclesia (assembly) of believers.
This assembly has existed since Adam, and will continue until our lord Christ returns to
judge the quick and the dead. The ecclesia is created by Christ alone...

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His
Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He
predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and
whom He justified, these He also glorified.-Romans 8:29-30

But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own
special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of
darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the
people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy. -1
Peter 2:9-10

Christ alone is the head of the church...

...which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at
His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and power and
might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also
in that which is to come. And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be
head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills
all in all. -Eph 1:20-23

The organized (visible) church has not, however, always been synonymous with this
assembly. Religious leadership, seeking to retain or increase their ecclesiastical
authority, has throughout the ages often subjected the organized church to the whims of
political entities. Each time this has happened it has been necessary for the assembly of
believers to separate from the established church.

                                Incorporated Churches?
A corporation is the creation of government, and subject to any and all decrees which
it's creator ordains.

corporation- An artificial person or legal entity created by or under the authority of the
laws of a state. An association of persons created by statute as a legal entity.

Blacks Law Dictionary, 6th Ed.

When a church incorporates it submits a charter to the state, which the state has the
power to approve or deny. The corporate church becomes subject to the state and the
state now assumes authority to review the actions of the church and all corporate
officers. Does your church designate the pastor as the president of the corporation? Is
there a Board of Directors? Do you hold Business Meetings to discuss corporate
finances?

Since the state is the creator of your corporate church, to whom are these corporate
officers legally responsible?

The officers of a charitable organization are accountable to the court and subject to
removal by the court, or by the state board of charities. They are bound by the ordinary
strict rules concerning the authority of a fiduciary; and persons dealing with them must
at their peril, take notice of the powers granted the corporation by it's articles of
incorporation. [11 C.J. Charities s103]

Increasingly the properties of corporate churches are being seized by government
agents, and the officers of corporate churches are being prosecuted, simply because
they have taken politically incorrect (but biblically consistent) stands.

Can a Christian serve two masters? Are the privileges offered by the state to the
corporate church worth the price?

No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the
other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve
God and mammon. -Luke 16:13

Richard Hoskins, in the Hoskins Report 6/98 outlined 29 IRS regulations pertaining to
501(c)(3) churches:

1. Church must be incorporated.

2. Church must have a "recognized" creed and IRS approved form of worship. (Who
does the approving and accepts the "form" is not covered in the regulations)

3. The church must have a definite and distinct ecclesiastical hierarchical government.
(?)
4. The church must have an IRS approved formal "code" of doctrine and discipline.
(Type and what discipline are not identified in IRS regs)

5. It must be a denomination with a distinct religious history. (?)

6. Must have "ordained" ministers. (?)

7. Ministers must have been educated in state accredited colleges. (More opportunity
for PC indoctrination of ministers)

8. Must be neutral on political issues. (Helps explain why churches never preach
against the sins and blasphemies of government officials, despite blatant violations of
the Law of God)

9. Must have a "tax exempt" status issued by the IRS.

10. Must pay a fee to the IRS for this "tax exempt" status.

11. Must be engaged in furthering exclusively public purposes. (?)

12. The church cannot bar its services to the public. (?)

13. The pastor must answer to the IRS as to the daily activities of the church.

14. The IRS must be privy to all financial transactions, including sources, donors,
expenditures, and if cash is used, a possible association with money-laundering is
suspected.

15. Books and records must always be available.

16. The Pastor must inform the IRS of the names of all donors.

17. Gifts to missionaries and evangelists exceeding $600 requires filing form 1099.

18. The church may use only IRS approved methods of fund raising.

19. The Pastor will be called to account by the IRS over any stand taken against the tax
system. 501(c)(3) requires church pastors to preach on taxpaying. (Ever notice how
pastors preach a sermon about 'rendering unto Caesar' on the Sunday before April
15th?)

20. Must submit names of all church workers, down to and including maintenance
people.
21. Must give unlimited submission to civil magistrates pertaining to all laws - federal,
state and local - including public policy. (Judeo-Christian clergy are more obedient to
man's government than to the Royal Law of God)

22. The church must advocate and promote racial integration.

23. Must not publicly oppose licensing of churches.

24. May not engage in political activities opposing pornography. (Now you can see why
there are no sermons on this)

25. May not support legislation saying that children belong to parents and not the state.

26. May not form a political action committee or actively support legislation opposing
lotteries and gambling.

27. May not advocate support of the U.S. or State constitutions as the supreme law of
the land. (Helps explain why our Judeo-Christian pastors do not speak out)

28. May not participate in opposing the school system. (As they may find that God has
been removed)

29. May not publicly declare that the church is to obey God rather then man's
government.

"We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29

http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/501c3.htm




            Buying and Selling Merchants of Babylon
In the book of Revelation, only those that have the mark of the beast can buy and sell.
(Rev. 13:17) No man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark,
[even] the name of the beast or the number of his name. But they will not escape
God's wrath in the near future. (Isa. 24:1) Behold, Jehovah maketh the earth empty,
and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the
inhabitants thereof. (2) And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as
with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as
with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the creditor, so with the debtor; as with
the taker of interest, so with the giver of interest to him. (3) The earth shall be
utterly emptied, and utterly laid waste; for Jehovah hath spoken this word.

For the true meaning in this parable of buying and selling we must look for the hidden
manna. (Rev. 2:17) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the
churches. To him that overcometh, to him will I give of the hidden manna, and I
will give him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, which no one
knoweth but he that receiveth it. See also (Lk. 10:21). In that same hour he
rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and
earth, that thou didst hide these things from the wise and understanding, and
didst reveal them unto babes: yea, Father; for so it was well-pleasing in thy sight..

   The letter kills but the spirit gives life. (2 Cor. 3:6) who also made us sufficient as
ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter
killeth, but the spirit giveth life. Jesus spoke spirit during his ministry to the disciples.
(Jn. 6:53) Jesus therefore said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye
eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, ye have not life in yourselves;
(63)It is the spirit that giveth life; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I have
spoken unto you are spirit, are life. The Book of Revelation is called the testimony of
Jesus. (Rev. 1:2) who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of
Jesus Christ, [even] of all things that he saw; (9) I John, your brother and partaker
with you in tribulation and kingdom and patience [which are] in Jesus, was in the
isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. The
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. (19:10) And I fell down before his feet to
worship him. And he saith unto me, See thou do it not: I am a fellow-servant with
thee and with thy brethren that hold the testimony of Jesus: worship God; for the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy for which the saints are killed by the
false prophets who only see the letter. (20:4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon
them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that had
been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as
worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon
their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a
thousand years. “Revelation” means an uncovering or unveiling and it is the spirit, not
the letter, that does this! It is a sign(Rev. 1:1) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which
God gave him to show unto his servants, [even] the things which must shortly
come to pass: and he sent andsignified [it] by his angel unto his servant John; (2)
who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, [even]
of all things that he saw.

The ones who "bought and sold" were destroyed by the fire in Lot's day. (Lk. 17:28)
Likewise even as it came to pass in the days of Lot; they ate, they drank, they
bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; (29) but in the day that Lot went out
from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Paul taught that those who do evil are “sold under sin.” (Rom. 7:14) For we know
that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. (15) For that which I do I
know not: for not what I would, that do I practise; but what I hate, that I do. Ahab,
a type of the beast, sold his soul to do evil at the instigation of the Harlot Jezebel. (1 Ki.
21:25) But there was none like unto Ahab, who did sell himself to do that which
was evil in the sight of Jehovah, Jezebel his wife stirred up. (20)And Ahab said to
Elijah, Hast thou found me, O mine enemy? And he answered, I have found thee,
because thou hast sold thyself to do that which is evil in the sight of Jehovah. In
2 Kings 17:17 those that worshiped the Image of the beast sold themselves and
caused their children to go through fire. And they caused their sons and their
daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and
sold themselves to do that which was evil in the sight of Jehovah, to provoke him
to anger. (18) Therefore Jehovah was very angry with Israel, and removed them
out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only. Many in these days
are like “Esau, who for one mess of meat (following after flesh) sold his own
birthright” (Heb. 12:16) and was rejected. (17)For ye know that even when he
afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected (Greek: reprobate); for he
found no place for a change of mind [in his father,] though he sought it diligently
with tears.

   Jesus rejected those in the temple (Christians in the New Testament) who bought and
sold.(Mk. 11:15) And they come to Jerusalem: and he entered into the temple, and
began to cast out them that sold and them that bought in the temple, and
overthrew the tables of the money-changers, and the seats of them that sold the
doves. The foolish virgins missed the Lord because they went to buy from them that
sold. (Mt. 25:10) And while they went away to buy, the bridegroom came; and they
that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast: and the door was shut.
They obviously were used to dealing with the hirelings, the "merchants of Babylon".
Jesus told his ministers “freely you have received, freely give. Get you no gold, nor
silver, nor brass in your purses” (Mt. 10:8-9). They had to walk by faith, with no
salaries, no corruption. You can't hire God's ministers but then you can't fire them either.
Some will say “Buy the truth and sell it not”(Pr. 23:23) but the truth cannot be bought
with money. (Isa. 55:1)Ho, everyone that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he
that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milkwithout
money and without price. (2) Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not
bread? and your labor for that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto me,
and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. (3) Incline
your ear, and come unto me; hear, and your soul shall live: and I will make an
everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. If the truth could be
bought with money, the rich would have an unfair advantage, which contradicts what
Jesus said: (Mt. 19:23) Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into
the kingdom of heaven. (24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to
go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
We can only buy the truth with the cost of our own life and way. (Jn. 7:17) If any man
willeth to do his will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God, or
[whether] I speak from myself. Peter said, “Thy silver perish with thee because
thou hast thought to obtain the gift of God with money” (Acts 8:20).

  To buy a lie, you must sell your soul. In a way, all those who buy and sell the
merchandise (teaching, thinking, actions) of Babylon (apostate religion) are the
merchants of Babylon. (Rev. 18:11) And the merchants of the earth weep and
mourn over her, for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore; (15)The
merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the
fear of her torment, weeping and mourning. The rich young ruler was bribed (bought)
by materialism to not follow Jesus. Many buy convenient Babylonish doctrines like this
and sell their eternal lives. (Lk. 14:18) And they all with one [consent] began to
make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a field, and I must needs go
out and see it; I pray thee have me excused. (19) And another said, I have bought
five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them; I pray thee have me excused. (Mt.
13:22) And he that was sown among the thorns, this is he that heareth the word;
and the care of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he
becometh unfruitful. They sell their soul for the pleasures of sin for a season. The
treasures of Egypt are worth more than the reproach of Christ to them. (Heb 11:25)
choosing rather to share ill treatment with the people of God, than to enjoy the
pleasures of sin for a season; (26) accounting the reproach of Christ greater
riches than the treasures of Egypt: for he looked unto the recompense of reward.
We must sell our worldly life to buy our heavenly life, which is made possible by the
sacrifice of Jesus’ life. The body of Christ was sacrificed so that the corporate body of
Christ would have power to sacrifice their lives. (Mt. 16:24) Then said Jesus unto his
disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his
cross, and follow me. (25) For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and
whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it. (26)For what shall a man be
profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? Or what shall a man
give in exchange for his life? Riches will soon be worth nothing but wrath. (Eze. 7:12)
The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller
mourn; for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof; (19) They shall cast their silver
in the streets, and their gold shall be as an unclean thing; their silver and their
gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of Jehovah: they
shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels; because it hath been the
stumbling block of their iniquity. (20) As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it
in majesty; but they made the images of their abominations [and] their detestable
things therein: therefore have I made it unto them as an unclean thing. (Rev. 6:6)
And I heard as it were a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, A
measure of wheat for a shilling, and three measures of barley for a shilling; and
the oil and the wine hurt thou not.

One reason there is such an emphasis on buying and selling is because Christians don't
obey God's word and walk by faith in the area of giving and receiving. Jesus
commanded us to “give and it shall be given unto you, good measure, pressed
down, shaken together, running over, shall they give into your bosom” (Lk. 6:38).
An opportunity to give is an opportunity to receive it back multiplied or it is an
opportunity to sit on or eat the seed. God gives to us not to make us rich but to
“multiply your seed for sowing”(2 Cor. 9:10). (2 Cor. 9:6) He that soweth sparingly
shall reap also sparingly, and he that soweth bountifully shall reap also
bountifully. God follows this with this promise: (8)And God is able to make all grace
abound with you, that you having always all sufficiency in everything may
abound unto every good work). On the other hand, he that sits on or eats his seed
will have to buy and sell because he is disobedient and has no faith. This is where the
merchants of Babylon are. They make “the Father's house a house of merchandise”
(Jn. 2:16) when they peddle the word for salaries like the world. Peddling books, tapes,
trinkets, chicken dinners, tours, etc., is the way of the world and for those who have an
impoverished God. They make “merchandise of the word of God” (2 Cor. 2:17 in
Greek). Why would anyone who believed the above promises do this? When a person
is not sent by God he does not have faith that God shall supply every need (Phl.
4:19). Where God sends, He supplies. Without God's supernatural supply, people have
to resort to other tactics to support “their ministry,” like buying and selling.

Another tactic these ministers use is to put God's people under the law to support them
when the scripture clearly states that our giving is “not of necessity” (2 Cor. 9:7). Let
each man do according as he has purposed in his heart (not according to law); not
grudgingly, or of necessity (not according to law), for God loveth a cheerful giver.
In the New Testament, God wants an offering from the heart from those born of His
Spirit. God made the Old Covenant with the Jews, not the church. If a doctrine like
tithing is not in the new covenant, then it was never made with you! Jesus, rebuking
those under the Old Covenant, said “Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cumin (even their seasoning), and have
left undone the weightier matters of the law, Justice and mercy, and faith: but
these you ought to have done (past tense in all ancient manuscripts and the Received
Text) and not to have left the other undone” (Mt. 23:23). Jesus said tithing was of the
law and in the past. Some say tithing was before the law. Yes, circumcision and animal
sacrifice were before the law too but they were included in the law, and we are not
under law to do them anymore. Paul also said tithing was of the law. (Heb. 7:5) And
they indeed of the sons of Levi that receive the priest's office have commandment
to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though
these have come out of the loins of Abraham: (6) but he whose genealogy is not
counted from them hath taken tithes of Abraham, and hath blessed him that hath
the promises. (7) But without any dispute the less is blessed of the better. (8) And
here men that die receive tithes; but there one, of whom it is witnessed that he
liveth. (9) And, so to say, through Abraham even Levi, who receiveth tithes, hath
paid tithes; (10) for he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met
him. (11) Now if there was perfection through the Levitical priesthood (for under it
hath the people received the law), what further need [was there] that another
priest should arise after the order of Melchizedek, and not be reckoned after the
order of Aaron? There is no New Testament command or request to tithe because we
are no longer stewards of ten percent. Jesus taught that we have to renounce
ownership of the other ninety percent or we cannot be his disciple. (Lk. 14:33) So
therefore whosoever he be of you that renounceth not all that he hath, he cannot
be my disciple. “All” here means all possessions, rights, and will.

  We even must renounce "our" doctrine! It must be the Lord's doctrine. Since we have
the Spirit we don't need a law; we are under the law of the Spirit. (Rom. 8:2) For the
law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of
death. The Spirit will tell where to give and how much and to whom. If everyone gave
according to the Spirit the kingdoms of men would crumble and true ministers would be
supported. A person who is under the tithing law robs God because he will disobey the
Spirit's command to meet the needs of the brethren around him in order to bring his
"tithes into the storehouse," which to them is usually an apostate religious system
that won't meet the brethren's needs. The storehouse in the Old Covenant was in the
temple. (1 Kings 7:51) Thus all the work that king Solomon wrought in the house
of Jehovah was finished. And Solomon brought in the things which David his
father had dedicated, [even] the silver, and the gold, and the vessels, and put
them in the treasuries of the house of Jehovah… In the New Testament the
storehouse is in the people, who are His temple. (Mt. 25:34) Then shall the King say
unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom
prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (35) for I was hungry, and ye
gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink; I was a stranger, and ye took
me in; (36) naked, and ye clothed me; I was sick, and ye visited me; I was in
prison, and ye came unto me. (37)Then shall the righteous answer him, saying,
Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee? or athirst, and gave thee drink?
(38) And when saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed
thee?(39) And when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?(40) And
the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye
did it unto one of these my brethren, [even] these least, ye did it unto me. (41)
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed,
into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels: (42) for I was
hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;(43) I
was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in
prison, and ye visited me not. (44) Then shall they also answer, saying, Lord,
when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison,
and did not minister unto thee? (45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I
say unto you, In as much as ye did it not unto one of these least, ye did it not
unto me. (46) And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous
into eternal life.. You see we are called to meet the needs of the brethren. (1Jn. 3:16)
Hereby know we love, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay
down our lives for the brethren.(17) But whoso hath the world's goods, and
beholdeth his brother in need, and shutteth up his compassion from him, how
doth the love of God abide in him?

   Giving according to the Spirit causes one to fulfill the law without being under the law.
(Mt. 5:17) Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to
destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass
away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be
accomplished. For instance, a person who gives bountifully will fulfill the ten percent
and more, but they do it from the heart and are not seeking to earn God's approval as
those under the law. We are not righteous before God when we attempt to please Him
by the law, whether tithes, observing the Sabbath, circumcision, abstaining from meats,
etc. (Gal. 2:16) yet knowing that a man is not justified (Greek: accounted
righteous)by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we
believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by
the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified
and (3:11) Now that no man is justified by the law before God, is evident: for, The
righteous shall live by faith. If we rest every day from our own works we certainly fulfill
the Sabbath, without being under the letter of the law.

   The righteousness of the law is self righteousness because it is powered by self but
“The righteous shall live from faith” (Gal. 3:11). When ministers of Babylon put you
under the law they separate you from God's righteousness and bring you under a curse.
Except your righteousness shall exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees (law of
tithe included), you shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven (Mt. 5:20).
The law is “a yoke of bondage.” (Gal. 5:1-3)For freedom did Christ set us free:
stand fast therefore, and be not entangled again in a yoke of bondage. Behold, I
Paul say unto you, that, if ye receive circumcision, Christ will profit you nothing.
Yea, I testify again to every man that receiveth circumcision (or tithing, Sabbath,
meats, etc.) that he is adebtor to do the whole law. If you are under any part of the
law you are under the curse of having to keep the whole law and since that is
impossible you are separated from Christ. (Gal. 3:10) For as many as are of the
works of the law are under a curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one who
continueth not in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.
(5:4) Ye are severed from Christ ye who would be justified by the law; ye are
fallen away from grace. Notice: those who put you under the law cut you off from
Christ and grace. You cannot hear the voice of Christ and the voice of the law at the
same time. “But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law” (5:18). The
merchants of Babylon say, "you are not under the law", when they are talking about
obedience to the word, but "bring your tithes into the storehouse", when they talk of
money? “In covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of
you” (2 Pet. 2:3). In verse one of this text we are told this is the false prophets and
teachers who bring in destructive heresies (law) and deny Jesus. They deny Jesus by
separating Him from His body. “Forsaking the right way, they went astray, having
followed the way of Balaam... who loved the hire of wrong doing” (15).

   Friends, if you know a minister, one of the few, who walks by faith and freely gives the
true doctrine of God, support him as the scriptures teach. (1 Cor. 9:6) Or I only and
Barnabas, have we not a right to forbear working? (7) What soldier ever serveth at
his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not the fruit thereof? Or
who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? (8) Do I speak these
things after the manner of men? or saith not the law also the same? (9) For it is
written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out
the corn. Is it for the oxen that God careth, (10) or saith he it assuredly for our
sake? Yea, for our sake it was written: because he that ploweth ought to plow in
hope, and he that thresheth, [to thresh] in hope of partaking. (11) If we sowed
unto you spiritual things, is it a great matter if we shall reap your carnal things?
(12) If others partake of [this] right over you, do not we yet more? Nevertheless
we did not use this right; but we bear all things, that we may cause no hindrance
to the gospel of Christ. (13) Know ye not that they that minister about sacred
things eat [of] the things of the temple, [and] they that wait upon the altar have
their portion with the altar? The Word will be our judge as to whether we are buying
and selling with the world. Concerning the above see also Removing the Carnal
Authority and System.


          Warning Given to Merchant Ministers Who Buy and Sell
                       Dream given to Stan Johnson, December 5, 1999
                                       (David's notes in red)
I was walking under a large bank. The bank covered one square city block. I was
walking on dirt. Looking up I could see the bottom of the first floor about fifteen feet
above me. I noticed the foundation of the bank was made of red brick - the same kind of
red brick used to build houses that would never hold the weight of a large bank. I began
to notice that the foundation was only one brick thick and had large holes in the
foundation every ten to twenty feet. Right in front of me, about five steps away, was a
hole in the foundation so large I could get on my knees and crawl through it. (Ministers
should escape the Babylonish system of buying and selling on their knees in prayer
while there is still time.) I thought, “Wow! This is dangerous! This bank could collapse
and fall down on me any minute.” I looked at this weak foundation and thought there is
no way this foundation could hold the weight of this big bank on a good day, especially
in an earthquake!
I started to walk the five steps to the hole in front of me and get down on my knees and
crawl out from under it. (The five steps represent grace, given to those who will get on
their knees and return to the Biblical example. "Freely you have received, freely
give.") Then I noticed about twenty-five steps away was another hole so large I could
walk out from under the bank without getting on my knees. (Many choose the long and
hard way so they don't have to humble themselves.) I chose to take the easy way out
and began to walk toward the larger hole.
All of a sudden the bank began to shake! The bank fell about half the way to the floor.
What was fifteen feet to the ceiling was now under seven foot. (The next big hit on
America will bring this sudden collapse.) Instantly I was surrounded by a mass of
terrified screaming people. They were running in all directions with no place to go. It
was panic! They were running into me and blocking my way to the easy opening that
seconds earlier would have made an easy escape route. I couldn’t even see the easy
escape hole anymore. I looked for the hole five steps away; I could get on my knees
and crawl through. I couldn’t see that either. In the panic I was lost! I was just as lost
and just as much in a panic as everyone else. (He waited too late to receive grace.)
I ran to the far side of the bank, found a large hole and got out from under the Bank. I
knew I had to get several blocks away from the bank building because it was many
stories high. I didn’t want it to fall on me, but as I stepped from under the foundation I
saw a chain-link fence about twenty-five feet away, approximately fifteen feet tall,
topped with razor wire, surrounding the entire bank.
About a half of a city block away was a security guard firing a machine gun killing
people from a guard tower along the fence. He was telling people to get back away from
the fence and get back under the bank. Some were laying dead, others he was shooting
as fast as they neared the fence. He was trying to keep people under the falling bank!
(The devil, who owns and rules this system does not want you free.)
I saw an old pickup truck parked next to the fence. I waited until his head was turned,
then ran and jumped on the back bed of the pickup truck, proceeded to the top of the
truck and jumped over the fence. I escaped, but only at the risk of my life and saw many
others trapped or dead! (Repent while there is time. Waiting too late may cost you your
life or you may escape with your life only.)

THREE VISIONS
Pat Cocking June 29, 2001

THE GLITTERING SNAKE

1. The Glittering Snake - in a vision, a snake was seen that was fully studded with
precious gems. It was glittering and shimmering with the reflection of the gems and
could barely be seen for what it truly was due to the arrayment. The glittering effect was
influencing and enticing leaders. When the leaders in the vision were captured by
delight in the extravagance of the gems, they moved towards the serpent to touch and
to handle the gems. As they did, the snake began to wrap itself around the body of the
individual. The victim, representing leaders, did not actually physically die in the vision
but in fact wore the gem-clad snake as a garment. They were not really aware of the
serpent as it was well hidden in the massive extravagance of the jewels and glitter.
They enjoyed being arrayed in the glitter but did not realize the source.

Interpretation -- this vision sounds a warning to the Body (especially leaders) that
demon powers will attempt to appeal to the lust of man's flesh and soulish desires in this
next season. This appeal will specifically target the heart in areas of personal love for
money and provision. If given in to--the temptation will wrap leaders in demonic, worldly
bondage and thus cause leaders to misrepresent Christ and His Kingdom. Worldly and
demonic glitter will manifest rather than the nature of Christ. "There is a way that seems
right to a man, but its end is destruction."

THE HOUNDS

2. The Hounds - demonic hound dogs were seen in vision, sniffing out the "ground of
blessing". When they came to a place where they could smell a pool of blessing
beneath the earth, they began to furiously dig through the soil. When they hit the level
where the blessings were (seen in the vision as golden bones), they laid hold of them
with a firm grip in their teeth and jaws and ran away with their treasure.

Editor's interpretation: Isa.56:10 His watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge;
they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, loving to slumber. 11
Yea, the dogs are greedy, they can never have enough; and these are shepherds that
cannot understand: they have all turned to their own way, each one to his gain, from
every quarter. 12 Come ye, [say they], I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with
strong drink; and to-morrow shall be as this day, [a day] great beyond measure.

LEECHES
3. The Leeches -- black leeches were seen sucking on to a healthy body.

Editor's Interpretation: Eze.34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel,
prophesy, and say unto them, even to the shepherds, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah:
Woe unto the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds
feed the sheep? 3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill the fatlings; but
ye feed not the sheep.




                              Toronto Deception
                     By former Toronto Vineyard Pastor Paul Gowdy

[EDITOR'S NOTE: Please see the link at the end of this article to read the "Toronto
Drinking Song" - which some of their main leaders put out. Amazing! But first, to this
pastor's article...]

It has taken me nine years to actually come to the place where I would write this story.
Part of the reason was because I was not fully convinced that it is appropriate to speak
out against weaknesses in the body of Christ publicly. Another reason is because it has
taken years of soul searching to become convinced that what happened in the Toronto
Airport Church was actually all bad or at least more bad than good!

For the past number of years I have called it a mixed blessing. I think James A. Beverly
called it this in his book Holy Laughter and the Toronto Blessing 1994. Today I would
call it a mixed curse concluding that any individual good that came from this experience
is far outweighed by much harm and satanic deception. I suppose that therein has been
my dilemma. I have tried to live my life in the fear of the Lord and Jesus told us that the
unforgivable sin was the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Attributing to Satan what was in
fact a work of God. If pressed as to whether or not the Toronto blessing is all God or all
Devil I will still be hedgy, but I am convinced that Satan has used this experience to
blind people to the historical doctrines of God, to produce fruit in keeping with
repentance, to failing to test and discern the spirits and failing to test prophecy.

After three years of being in the thick of the Toronto blessing our Vineyard assembly in
Scarborough ( East Toronto) just about self destructed. We devoured one another, with
gossip, backstabbing, division, sects criticism etc. After three years of 'soaking,' praying
for people, shaking, rolling, laughing, roaring, ministering at TACF on their prayer team,
leading worship at TACF, preaching at TACF, basically living at TACF we were the most
carnal, immature and deceived Christians that I know. I remember saying to my friend
and senior pastor at Scarborough Vineyard Church in 1997 that ever since the Toronto
Blessing came we have just about fallen to bits! He agreed!

My experience has been that the manifestation of spiritual gifts mentioned in 1st
Corinthians 12 was much more common in our assembly before January 1994 (when
the Toronto blessing started) than during this period of supposed Holy Spirit visitation.

During 1992-1993 when praying for people we would experience what I believe was
genuine prophesy, deliverance and much grace and favour from the Lord. After the
Toronto Blessing started, all ministry time changed, the only prayers were 'More Lord
MORE', the shouting of 'Fire' the jerky shaking of the body with the 'ooh ooh OOH
WOOOAAH' prayer. (I kid you not!)

On January 20th 1994 about 15 people from our church traveled over to Toronto Airport
Vineyard in order to listen to Randy Clark, a Vineyard pastor from the USA. John Arnott
had called our senior pastor to invite us. He communicated that Randy had been to the
Rodney Howard Browne meetings and that the stuff had broke out in his church in the
following weeks. John was hoping that something might break out with us too. We were
only too happy to travel over. We were a church plant out of the Toronto Airport and we
started in 1992. In those days there were three Vineyard Churches in Toronto. One
Down Town church, Scarborough vineyard church to the east and the Airport Church.
We were one big happy family. Because we were small in number we did special
meetings, conferences etc, together.

The year before most of our leadership teams joined and had headed to Nicaragua for a
short term missions trip. We had genuine love and fellowship with each other. Since
leaving the Vineyard churches I have read a fair bit of analysis from the critics. Some
make out that the Toronto Blessing was one huge conspiracy to lead the body of Christ
into heresy. Heresy and apostasy I suspect may well be the result, but none of these
destinations were intentional. I am honestly convinced that the leaders in the Vineyard
churches are genuine born-again Christians who love the Lord, but have fallen into
deception. They have not loved the Lord enough to keep His commandments. They
have failed to obey the scriptures and have been led astray by our longing for
something bigger and brighter and more exciting and dynamic. I am guilty of this sin
also. I have preached renewal in Korea, the United Kingdom, the USA and here in
Canada. I am genuinely repentant and in writing this story I would ask you the bride and
body of Christ to forgive me. Especially the Pentecostal/Charismatic Christians among
you, for you are my immediate family theologically. I am an evangelical Christian, I
always have been but I do not believe in the cessation of the spiritual gifts at the end of
the apostolic era. I believe that it was my evangelical roots (my family are Baptists and I
was born again in the presbyterian Church.) that started to open my eyes to problems
with this so called renewal. In hind sight I look back and think how could I have been so
blind? I laughed at people acting like dogs and pretending to urinate on the columns of
the TACF building. I watched people pretend to be animals, bark, roar, cluck, pretend to
fly as if they had wings, perpetually act drunk and sing silly songs. How I thought that
any of this was from the Holy Spirit of God amazes me today. It was loud irreverent and
blasphemous to the Holy God of the Bible. I suppose in my mind I reasoned that as long
as they did not teach any thing in direct violation to scripture then it was what we called
the exotic. This is a buzz word for manifestations that could not be justified from a
biblical perspective.
I was taught from the pulpit that we had two options. The order of the nursery full of life
and messy or the order of the graveyard, very orderly but dead! As a young immature
pastor I wanted life with mess. I failed to remember that God wants us to become
mature and grow up in him. I became disconcerted by the prophetic words that came
forth especially one by Carol Arnott in which she had her bride experience where she
was taken into the very presence of Jesus and said that the love that she experienced
was even better than sex! I was shocked in my spirit and thought how can one compare
the love of God with sex? When we suspected that demons were running riot in our
services John Arnott would teach that we should ask are they coming or going. If they
are leaving then that is ok! John would defend the chaos by saying that we ought not be
afraid of being deceived, if we have asked the Holy Spirit to come and fill us then how
could Satan come and deceive us? This would make Satan very strong and God very
weak! He said that we needed to have more faith in a Big God to protect us than in a
Big Devil to deceive us. This sounded very convincing but was totally contrary to
scripture for Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all warn us about the power of
deceiving spirits and especially so in the last days. Again we did not love God enough to
obey His Word and the result was that we opened ourselves up to lying spirits. May God
have mercy upon us!

Finally the penny dropped for me as I was rolling around one night 'drunk in the Spirit'
as we would say. I started singing and as I rolled around the floor the Nursery Rhyme
'Mary had a little lamb its fleece was white as snow.' came to mind. I sang this in a
mocking spirit and instantly my heart told me this was a demon. Instantly I repented and
was in total shock. How could a demon get into me? Did I not love God? Was I not
zealous for the things of God? Was I not nuts about Jesus? I knew that an unclean spirit
had just manifested through me and I was guilty of great sin. After this experience I
stayed away from TACF. I did not go back there any more. I did not possess the
conviction to denounce the whole experience but thought that we where failing to pastor
the Blessing well enough.

Even after I stopped going over to TACF, I had to pastor the fruit of it. One example was
when some of our people returned from a meeting there asking us if we had all received
the golden sword of the Lord? I asked them what they were talking about thinking that it
was some prophetic reference to the Holy Scriptures but they said, 'no, it's not the Bible,
it's an invisible golden sword that only the really pure can receive. If taken in an
unrighteous fashion then the Lord would kill you. But if you are holy enough to receive it
then you can wield this sword and it will heal AIDS, Cancer etc. and bring salvation.
How one wielded this sword was by pretending to have this invisible sword in your hand
and motioning to strike people with it when in prayer! I thought while even in deception
at this time that the TACF had become Looney bins! This was purportedly first received
by Carol Arnott and then given to the ones holy enough to receive it! Another thing was
the golden fillings in the teeth. We had people in our assembly peeping down one
another's throats looking for the gold fillings that God had placed there to show how
much he loved them! In all my time there I only heard one message on repentance
given by a visiting speaker from Hong Kong named Jackie Pullinger. It went over like a
lead balloon. We were not there to repent, we were there to party in the Lord! After one
year into the blessing I spoke out at a pastors meeting and said 'guys we have shaken,
rattled, rolled, laughed cried and bought the tee-shirt. But we have no revival, no
salvation, no fruit and no increased evangelism so what's the deal?' I was soundly
rebuked - who was I to expect to see fruit when the Lord was healing his broken
people? We had been legalistic long enough and God was spending this time restoring
his wounded and freeing us from legalism I was told not to push the Lord and the
harvest would come in his time.'

I knew this was wrong because the Lord had commanded us to go into all the earth and
make disciples! Not that everyone should take a sabbatical for who knows how long,
while God does some strange new thing! Ultimately I left over something as
controversial as the ordination of women. Personally I believe from scripture that
women should not be pastors/elders in a local assembly. I could be wrong on this and
there is much debate in the Church today but that is my conviction and in the Vineyard
churches they were ordaining all the pastors' wives to co pastor with them. I am
certainly for women in ministry but believe that the Elder/pastor role in a local assembly
has been reserved for men. I did not write scripture but God willing I will have the grace
from now on to obey it.

So there is my story. I could go on and document much excess, folly, sin and latter day
reign teaching that manifest from the prophetic end of this Blessing but others have
already done that. We sang about Joel's army and the billion soul revival as if it were
one of the Ten Commandments, and as always it was just around the corner. Next
month, next year etc. Jesus said that when the son of man returns will he find faith upon
the earth? And if he does not return when he does no flesh would be saved but for the
sake of the elect he comes. This is a far cry from the dominionism that is being taught
all through the vineyard/prophetic/ spiritual warfare movement. I honestly think that they
think they are going to take over the whole world! While in the Vineyard I embraced a
life verse from the Apostle Paul the phrase do not go beyond what is written!

To finish I just want to say sorry for the damage, that I have personally done by teaching
things that are not correct biblically. I repent before men as I already have before God. I
will not excuse my falling into deception. I did not bother to test things when the
scriptures commanded us to do so. Everyone who was there when this thing started
knows that what I write is true, they would just come to different conclusions especially if
they are still promoting the 'river!'

To those in the river I would say swim out, there are things living in the water that will
bite you real good! I love the people of TACF and the Vineyard movement but I think
that we have much to answer for and may the Lord open your eyes sooner rather than
later. I suspect that when this letter goes online I will get bombarded by emails from
both camps, some damning me for still believing in the ministry of the Holy Spirit and
still walking in deception and some old friends damning me for exposing dirt or being
negative about the Lords anointed! Well, the Lord knows my heart and by his grace he
will guide me into all truth as I seek to know Christ and him crucified! If you believe that I
walk in sin and error please pray for me that the Lord would forgive me and open my
eyes. I will study the word to show my self a work man approved! I would call on all who
read this to pray that the Lord would open the eyes of all who have been involved in this
deception. Whether leader or follower, we are loved and the Lord is a forgiving God. He
says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us
from all unrighteousness. I believe we are like the church in Laodicea, we think that we
are rich, have prospered and need nothing, we do not realise that we are wretched,
pitiable, poor, blind and naked. We must take the Counsel of Jesus and buy gold refined
in the fire (which is his suffering, not a false spirit!), white garments to clothe our
shameful nakedness and salve for our eyes that we might see again. Jesus is calling us
to repentance and thank the Lord that he is, for it will lead us to true restoration with our
Father! If God has forgiven me and opened my eyes then he can do it for all those
caught in deception too. I will finish with a warning from Paul, he says if you think you
are standing firm be careful lest you fall.

Sincerely,
Paul Gowdy

~LINK to "TORONTO DRINKING SONG" - Put out by some of their main leaders - it is
absolutely amazing. Please click on the heading "TORONTO DRINKING SONG" on the
Forum at the following website-
http://www.revivalschool.com

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                 Toronto/Brownsville: Trojan Horse
        A Vision From 1974 That Foretells Toronto and Brownsville

MODERATOR: A few people have been questioning why I chose to bring up 'Toronto' at
this time. "Surely it is old news?" they say. Sadly, that is not the case. Everywhere I look
throughout the Charismatic movement today I see evidence of Toronto-type excesses
and manifestations. They come in slightly different forms (-new fads blow through every
year). But I tell you, the "children of Toronto" are everywhere. Sometimes it is plain
'silliness' going on - but other times there is real power behind it.

However, the other thing that comes into this is the "Youth Revival" scenario.
Personally, we are in the midst of adapting our entire ministry to the coming 'Street-
Revival' right now. Others are hearing this from God also. And so the basis of our entire
ministry is changing. We are being forced onto a kind-of 'War' footing.

I want to tell you, there is no worse nightmare I can imagine than 'Toronto' getting a
foot-hold in the new move of God. All those young converts - hungry and susceptible. If
they get fed 'Toronto' they will believe it. I have studied Revival history now for over 20
years - and I tell you, Toronto is a "Revival-killer". It has a proven track-record going
back centuries. And I cannot imagine a worse fate for the coming Revival, can you?
Why do you think the first Great Awakening lasted only three years? (Research the
name 'James Davenport', the "old lights" and the "new lights" - and you will find out).
Why do you think the 1904 Welsh Revival became a by-word in that nation within just a
few years? Read history and there you will see 'Toronto'-type phenomena wrecking
Revivals time and time again. Is that what we want for the coming move of God, my
friends?

From my point of view, if there are leaders who carry that "anointing", they are
absolutely UNWELCOME to minister in any way to the young converts that are coming
in. -Which is another reason why this issue is so important to discuss at this moment. I
believe we are about to enter 'harvest-time' in the West and we simply cannot afford to
see it so easily ruined. We need to keep this thing OUT!

(Mind you, we cannot afford to be too heavy on 'minor' excesses either. The Holy Spirit
has to be given room to move and there will always be some 'messiness' involved. It is
a question of BALANCE).

By the way, you may be interested in the following brief account that a lady named Patti
sent me today:

"I inadvertently got prayed over by some people who had received "The Toronto
Blessing". I ended up that night with uncontrollable flopping and shaking of my limbs,
being drunk in spirit and uncontrollable laughter. At the time it felt right. But later as time
went on, these manifestations came at inopportune times and were uncontrollable. My
arms and legs would shake when trying to pray for people or when just sitting in church.
My legs would give out and I would have to catch my balance just to stand upright while
worshipping. It soon became clear to me that this was not the Holy Spirit and so I
repented of allowing myself to receive this spirit and asked God to take it away from me.
Praise Him, He did!"

Below is an interesting vision from 1974 which may also relate to this whole thing.

Moderator: Andrew Strom

http://www.revivalschool.com

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NOTE from Arthur Eedle: Thank you for your article on Toronto. In the mid 90s I sent
out similar warnings, and received some flak as a result, although here in England, the
influence of Toronto has never been as great as in the USA.
I am attaching a vision [below] I received in 1974, which speaks for itself. You may find
it useful, especially as it was given to me long before the "crazy manifestations"......

                         "A DECEPTION made of SUGAR"
                         - extracts by Arthur Eedle. Vision in 1974

Twenty years ago this month the Lord gave me one of the strangest visions I have ever
received, and on reflection I still believe it to be one of the most important, revealing the
subtlety of the enemy's intrusion into the end-time works of God. The vision became the
subject of our very first edition of The Prophetic Telegraph, which we published on 27th
June 1986. In view of the way things have gone in the western world in the last twenty
years, we now believe that it is timely to review this vision in the light of developments.
The Lord said that in the last days He would send "strong delusion" to those "who
received not the love of the truth." This was the basis of the vision, which may now be
set down once again for analysis.

The Crown Agents in London had appointed me to teach in the King George V School,
Hong Kong.... I was told there were more millionaires per square mile in Hong Kong
than anywhere else in the world, and after being there for some time, I could well
believe it. Looking back I now believe that what happened next was related to the Hong
Kong way of life, as it was going to influence the newly forming charismatic churches in
the west. Except that the luxury relates mainly to the spiritual realm rather than the
material realm.

As I sat looking at this amazing scene I began to see something else, and because of
its strangeness my mind was alerted immediately to the fact that God was conveying
truth in visionary form. I saw a duck, and I knew that it had been made of icing sugar
because a hand was smoothing down the surface with a knife. When all was complete,
the strange thing padded along on its webbed feet as though alive, and settled down on
a flat surface somewhere. But if this was strange, the next part of the vision took me
even more by surprise, because I saw dozens of people arriving at the duck, and it was
only then that I realised how large it was. It must have been all of forty feet tall! The
people were excited about the coming of the duck, and some of those who were braver
than the rest even went up to it and touched it. One of them licked his fingers and the
taste was sweet. Breaking a fragment from the surface he ate it, and jumped for joy.
Others gained confidence and followed his example until they were all delirious with
excitement. I saw them singing, dancing, throwing up their hands in the air, and
embracing each other. The festive atmosphere was its own advertisement. People
arrived in droves, pushing and shoving, and climbing over the duck with the aid of
ladders in an effort to obtain a handful of icing sugar and join in the fun.

This continued for some time until one man gave a very loud shout, which brought
everything to a halt. They saw him pointing to a hole that had appeared in the icing
sugar. It was therefore not solid as they had originally thought. No one had imagined the
sugar icing might give out sooner or later. After this, caution was exercised in the eating.
Everyone agreed to ration what was left. But they found to their joy that even the
smallest taste produced the same effects as a handful, and they wished they had
learned this lesson earlier. In the process of time many more holes appeared. Some
tried looking inside the duck, but all was pitch dark. Nothing could be seen. Gradually
the duck became wafer thin. All of a sudden the crash came as the remainder of the
duck disintegrated in a cloud of very fine dust. The crowd became silent, waiting and
watching.

It took a while for the dust to settle, and then I had a shock. Inside the duck there was a
terrible black beast about forty feet long, in shape like a scorpion with bulbous green
eyes. It also had wings similar to those of a dragonfly. I fully expected the crowd to
disperse at great speed, but instead they became delirious with excitement once again,
and accepted the beast as their accredited leader. If anything, the excitement became
greater than before. At this point the vision changed, and I saw the hand once again. It
was outstretched with some white pills on the palm. A small number of people were
arriving to receive one, which they ate. The result showed on their faces as an inner
sense of peace and tranquillity. And then the two visions merged. Once again I saw
people taking the icing sugar from the duck and jumping about in excitement. The group
fromthe second vision were approaching, and mingling with the crowd, warning them,
"Don't eat it! It's dangerous!" But there was very little response. Some shouted at them,
"Go away, you prophets of doom! Don't tell us that YOU have the Spirit of the Lord.
Where is your joy?" Disheartened they eventually wandered away, feeling a dull ache in
the pits of their stomachs.

Later on, when I had made a record of the vision, the Lord spoke to me, and I wrote
down the message, as follows:-

"The hand that formed the bitter pill fashioned also the duck. This is my work, and by it
my name will be magnified. Twenty centuries of progress has not changed the nature of
man, and neither has it changed mine, says the Lord. My Son is the Way, the Truth and
the Life. All those who reject the bitter pill of the cross will find themselves prey to the
lie. I will send them strong delusion, and they will believe it and rejoice in it because
their hearts are not set upon the Way. They will accept falsehood in a season of
careless security, indulging in spiritual flirtation with powers of darkness dressed up in
acceptable guise. They longed for sweet things and I gave them sugar, but it was not in
tune with my heart, says the Lord. And each bite of the duck they take, so grows the
beast within. And each bite of the duck they take, so blind they become to the truth. And
then, when antifaith has done its final work the beast is revealed to the world, enthroned
within the temple of God, blasphemously parading divine nature. Mark well my words,
says the Lord, there is but one great sign for this world, one marvel, one miracle of
challenge that I will accept, and it is the sign of the prophet Jonah. And those who take
the bitter pill shall find loneliness, derision and sorrow. And they shall walk the way of
their Master, learning of His sorrows, sharing His suffering, conforming to His death. But
I shall raise them to life, life on a higher plane, and they shall take my message to the
nations. This is my sign, and this shall be their reward. All other ways, however right
they may appear to man, shall be disallowed in my sight, says the Lord. And those who
eat the duck shall refuse this glory when it is revealed for it shall be folly to them.
Choose therefore whilst it is still possible, choose the salt and reject the sugar, says the
Lord, for the time is now short."

I should like to display a brief snatch from another vision, one which my wife received in
June 1969. She saw a dam across a narrow ravine, and behind the dam there was to
start with just a small trickle of water, but over a lengthy period of time the water rose to
produce a large lake, and eventually filled the ravine to the top of the dam. At this stage,
the dam burst, and the waters flowed out, bright and iridescent, into the valley beyond.
The Lord gave the interpretation. The water represented the faith of His people. And the
effect of faith was twofold. Firstly, the faith had an effect in the believer's life and his
walk. But secondly, the faith had another effect, which was not appreciated by the
believer at all. In heavenly places, each act of faith was like the water behind the dam.
God was preparing for a yet future day when, in His Kingdom, He could liberate the
combined effect of all the faith of His elect, and it would flow out to a needy world. I
believe the two visions are essentially the same in their interpretation. But the dam
refers to God's work, whereas the duck refers to the counterfeit work.

The people who ate the pills - These have fed on the true word, and have seen the
nature of the evil. They pray for the others, and whenever occasion arises, they
approach them and warn them, but usually to no avail. Hence the sweetness in the
mouth gave way to bitterness of soul at the outcome of their endeavours.

The Lord's hand - Some might be upset when they realise the Lord was the One who
designed the duck. But it must be remembered that in olden days, after King Saul's
disobedience, the Lord withdrew His Spirit from him, and gave him an evil spirit instead.
In each of these cases, the Lord takes full responsibility for what happens, even though
Satan was the donor of Saul's evil spirit, as he is also the architect of the duck.

Those who tried to warn the people of the dangers they were facing, only received
reviling comments. "Where is your joy?" they asked. But how can you approach such
people with a smile, when your task is to warn them of danger? They were drunk with
the wine of intoxication, produced by the effects of eating the sugary sweet words of the
false prophet, and enjoying the effects.

The Holy Spirit's ministry to believers is essentially towards their re-creation in the
Lord's own image. But in these days, at the latter end of the twentieth century, vast
numbers of believers look to the Holy Spirit for power, signs and wonders, which instead
of crucifying the flesh, tend to feed it. Oh how easy it is to be captivated by all the
manifestations of supernatural power today. Many Christians go "conference hopping"
in the hope of being present at yet another occasion of "blessing", where they can
witness all manner of effects, not just by the preacher and those called to the front, but
throughout the auditorium. If believers persist in praying to the Holy Spirit for signs and
manifestations, the Holy Spirit cannot answer. It is contrary to the purpose for which the
Spirit has come. But there is always "another" who "comes in his own name", and "him
you will hear." The crucial decision must be made. Is the flesh being fed, or crucified?
The Lord spoke to my wife some years ago saying, "In these days treat the miraculous
very lightly. Look rather to the LIVES of those who profess to have spiritual powers." We
have found it a most valuable word.

It is amazing how hard one may become when striving constantly for "power". But those
who are striving for mastery (lawfully), "walk in the Spirit and have no confidence in the
flesh." All such are progressively broken on the Rock which is Christ, and in brokenness
they learn to be gentle, even when acting as salt.

Two final words. First of all, over the years since 1986, when we first started publishing
The Prophetic Telegraph, we have frequently warned our readers about these growing
tendencies within the charismatic movement. But lest any should think that we
doctrinally reject manifestations of God's Holy Spirit in these end days, our testimony is
that my wife and I received the baptism of the Spirit in 1967, and have used the gift of
speaking in tongues in our private prayer lives ever since. We have also been God's
instruments in areas of deliverance ministry, healing, and in receiving visions and
revelations from the Lord.

Normally we should not wish to advertise this fact, but it seems necessary to say so at
this juncture to avoid being misunderstood.

And secondly, over this period of time we have certainly been too strident and even
harsh in our advertisement of the words of warning given to us. The Lord has graciously
revealed these areas t us, (mainly myself), and where necessary letters of apology have
been dispatched. It is good therefore to reveal this publicly now. My sincere prayer and
desire for all those who are being sucked in to this present hyped up atmosphere of
spiritual worship, is that the Holy Spirit will bring them through to a stable ground where
they can appreciate the "way of the cross" that Jesus taught. I have no antagonism
towards any of God's people, no matter what their persuasion is. If God has saved them
through the precious blood of His own beloved Son, then they are my brothers and
sisters in Christ. May God teach me how to love, and yet retain integrity based upon the
revelation granted, until the end come.

                        A Vision of True and False Revival
                                  Patrick Ersig - 3/04/06
                                   www.revivalarmy.com

Here is the account of a vision from God that I received regarding true and counterfeit
revival. This vision occurred on March 4th 2006 – just to clarify – this was vision not a
dream – I was fully awake and speaking the vision I saw as it was occurring to my wife.
This vision was spoken on March 18th at The Gathering in Kansas City. (not word for
word as written but spontaneously as prompted by the Holy Spirit.)

The vision…
Everything was black and I saw one person walking at a semi-brisk pace. Not fast
walking, but a slight cadence above normal pace. Walking with purpose. This person
was walking straight and sure – upright and strong – solemn and serious, like a
revolutionary - a warrior – a light to darkness. I then saw a couple more people and then
others in the distance and they were bright and shining against the blackness that was
all around. They all walked the same way – solemn and serious and the Lord spoke and
said, “These are my remnant who are walking in holiness, righteousness, obedience,
brokenness and utter submission to MY WILL – watch what I am doing Patrick” Then I
saw the individuals begin to unite in small groups of two to three at first and then more
came and the groups grew to five and even ten and the light intensified greatly. It was
beautiful like a sunset over the mountains or a sunrise on the ocean, a rose in full
bloom. What I saw next made me burst into tears and sobs to the point that I couldn’t
continue to describe what I was seeing. My wife keep saying “What?!, what is it? What
to do you see?!” after a few minutes a was able to control the weeping to explain what I
saw happening. As the Lord was drawing together His remnant into these small groups
the power God came down – like in the book of Acts – the lame were walking, the blind
were seeing, the deaf were hearing, (literally and figuratively) and persecution fuelled
the fire! This end times HOLY and RIGHTEOUS remnant of serious and solemn
warriors and revolutionaries walked in the deep darkness of America and her
backslidden lukewarm churches with apostolic glory and power not seen since the book
of Acts to proclaim the true Gospel of Jesus Christ – repentance and holiness and
freedom from sin!

The Lord spoke and said, “This is the revival that I am bringing about and it starts with
the individuals who have been called out to personal revival and are walking straight
and sure – upright and strong – solemn and serious, like revolutionaries, warriors, lights
to darkness. My remnant is walking in holiness, righteousness, obedience, brokenness
and utter submission to MY WILL and I am drawing them together.”
Then the vision switched…

Now I saw what looked like a dimly lit movie or a video shot with poor lighting. I saw
clips of people dancing and shaking. I saw people falling down, shouting, jumping, and
singing. There were huge multitudes rather then the few and many, many were coming
in large groups that filled large auditoriums and stadiums instead of small groups of
individuals being drawn together. Even some of the lights that were in the first part of
the vision were drawn to this part of the vision. I saw dancing and clapping, shaking,
shouting, strong and powerful emotionalism and sensationalism. Soulish and fleshy
spirits claimed to be the Holy Spirit. Great miracles abounded – signs and wonders.
People proclaimed, “This is the revival we have been waiting and praying for!!! – This is
the revival we have heard prophesied!!! – This is the outpouring of the Holy Spirit – a
great move of God!” But the Lord spoke and said, “Patrick this is not from me – this is
from Satan – it is a counterfeit!! And many will be fooled and tricked by this clever
deception from the enemy!”

After I had this vision I spent hours on the internet trying to find the places that I saw in
the video clips. I look at numerous church websites and church building photos for I new
I would know immediately when I saw the place for the vision was clear. I never did find
the place but I knew I would see it again sometime in the future. That time came in May
of 2008 when I was viewing video clips from the Lakeland Florida Healing Revival – I
almost fell out of my seat when unexpectedly saw some of the exact same video clips
on Godtube that I saw in the vision.
Then the vision switched again…

Now I saw both visions side by side – split screen so to speak. They both grew in
intensity at an equal rate - as the true would grow in power, the false would grow in
numbers and as the true would grow in numbers, the false would grow in false signs
and wonders. The Lord spoke and said, “This is not a vision of the future, but this has
already begun and will grow as the days pass. I am doing this now and the enemy is
coming against it at this very moment.”
Conclusion…

The Lord is bringing about an end times revival of which the like we have never seen
and it begins with you. The Lord is calling you to be separate, to holiness and
righteousness unto the Lord and to walk in obedience and utter submission to His will.
Be free from sin, be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect, be dead to flesh and
alive IN Christ. Walk sober and solemn and serious before the Lord with a reverent and
holy fear of God. If you are looking and waiting for some big corporate outpouring of
emotionalism and signs and wonders you are going to miss the coming revival. The
revival starts with you! Seek the Lord and press into Him closer everyday. Allow the
Blood and Grace of Jesus to break the bonds of your flesh and produce Holy and
Righteous living in your life. Ask the Lord to show you what it is in your life that is
keeping you from that which is perfect – no matter how small or how painful; ask the
Lord to expose everything that is keeping you from being closer to Him and bring Glory
to Him and His kingdom and deeply renounce all that He shows you.

Live your life as a living sacrifice - a living drink offering poured out before the Lord for
His glory and honor. There are many things that are cultural, societal and religious that
keep us separated from God and walking in His Spirit. Pray for God to bring these
things to light and put them to death no matter how hard it may be. If you don’t realize
that the revival the Lord is doing begins with you individually, then you are going to miss
it! The Lord is calling you today, repent for your lukewarmness and your lackadaisical
attitude toward sin in your own life and those who are perishing and plunging into hell all
around you everyday! The Lord is calling you today to allow the Blood of Jesus and the
grace of God to produce holiness and rivers of righteousness in your life that you maybe
salt to a decaying world and light to the darkness that prevails. What will you do? The
Lord is calling you right now to make up your mind to love Him with all your heart, mind,
soul and strength, take up your cross, die to self and follow HIM - forsaking ALL and
seeking after Him with all that you are and have. Come out and be separate in holy,
righteous obedience unto God!
WARNING – DO NOT be fooled by these sensual, emotional counterfeits that are and
will be popping up that these people and “churches” call “revival”. IT IS A TRICK FROM
THE ENEMY! When you hear that “revival” has broken out in the next town or the next
state or even in your own city – please remember this warning. There will be much
singing and dancing and shouting and many things will sound as though they are true.
There will be great surges of emotion that will cause people to fall down and jump and
shout, cry and weep but this not from God. Many will be crying out in joy, "Peace,
peace". But God's Servants will have discernment above and beyond any gift and a
willingness to die than lie - despite the increase of signs and wonders from all of the
counterfeit moves around them in the 'churches'. If the "revival" you are in is not serious
and reverent, holy and righteous, and the Love and reverent fear toward God are not
the only things you see, then RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, and warn everyone you know.
These spirits are strong and extremely powerful – get out of the building and don’t be
fooled by the signs and wonders. Please I am begging you to remember this for I know
that there will be many who are fooled and even (if possible) drawn away from the real
to the counterfeit, but I also know that there will be some who read this warning and
remember it and are spared. The true revival army will look like small bands of
revolutionaries or Special Forces with an end times mission to complete and Satan’s
counterfeit will resemble a band of wild Indians or tribal warriors dancing shouting battle
cries. The true revival army will attack the enemy at it strong hold, sin – their mission will
be the souls of men through the power of the Holy Spirit – they will be concerned with
setting people free from the bondage of sin through the message of the cross and will
watch strong holds of sin topple. Satan’s counterfeit will go after places and methods of
sin – they will try to legislate morality and get laws change, which results in forced
morality and no salvations. God’s army will seek to save that which is lost in the streets
and alley, around the abortion clinics and place of sin for every salvation equals one
less abortion and on less patron – Satan’s army will try to change the laws to prevent
sin but result in the salvation of no one. Satan’s counterfeits will try to change the "laws"
to prevent sin and work through the kingdoms and powers of this world to make their
kingdom of "christ" on earth (trying by 'laws only' to stop abortion, etc.), but this result in
the salvation of no one, just forced morality. For they love this present world.
Whosoever loves his life shall lose it. Whosoever loses his life for MY sake, shall find it.

Satan you are on notice! God is preparing a revival army that is going to tear down the
strongholds of your kingdom and Jesus is preparing a bride for Himself that is spotless
and pure! GOD is calling out to you! God is calling to make a decision right now – what
will you do?!?!
(Note from David: More false waves of revival are coming to confuse those who do not respect
the Word so that they may discern the true Spirit of God.)

Word to Amos Scaggs - 5/15/03: "The might wind of revival -- A Mighty Sound of
Abundant Rain ushers in the Messiah but I'm not in it ." (False Religion-False Jesus-
Apostate Church.)
                                  Trojan Horse Revival
                                          David Eells

A strong delusion is washing over Apostate Christianity. It is people forsake the Word to follow
the “spirit.” I have a friend who use to be Mr. America. He and another brother were telling me
when I first met them that they always heard from "the spirit" vocally. Some of the brethren and
myself began to question them and found that "the spirit" was not in agreement with the Word.
We told them that this could not be the Holy Spirit. We asked them if they would submit to
deliverance. We also told them they had nothing to lose since the Holy Spirit cannot be cast out
of anyone. They were a little proud and wanted to prove their point. So we commanded the
demons to leave and they never heard the audible voice of God again (Not that God doesn't
sometimes speak audibly). Immediately afterwards they came to respect the true Spirit of the
Word.

This strong delusion is seen in people who appear to love the Lord while they forsake the Word
to follow "the spirit." The Lord said His Words were "spirit and truth" and that that truth would
set you free. He said if you didn't obey His Word you did not "Agape" Him. If you did obey them
He and the Father would come to live in you. {Jn.14:23} Jesus answered and said unto him,
If a man love (Agape) me, he willkeep my word: and my Father will love (Agape) him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. {24} He that loveth (Agape) me not
keepeth not my words: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent
me. Notice: "If a man 'Agape' me, he will keep my word."

This is because "God is Agape" and He is "the Word made flesh" so you cannot separate
Agape from the Word. This is how we know false spirits. By the Spirit, an Apostle who wrote the
WORD said: {1 Jn.4:6} We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he who is not of
God heareth us not. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. {7}
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth (Agape =
"keep my Word") is begotten (born) of God, and knoweth God. {8} He that loveth (Agape =
"keep my Word") not knoweth not God; for God is love (Agape). Notice that everyone who
is born of God keeps His commandments and is Agape like Him. Without keeping the Word you
cannot know the true spirit of God for He is Agape. There are many spirits who lead God's
people contrary to the "Agape" keeping of His Word. This is the strong delusion of the
Toronto/Brownsville spirit. It deceives them to accept only a "phileo" love, which is an
affectionate, emotional, love, in the place of "Agape" love of God. The devil has a purpose
behind this. You can have this emotionally based "phileo" kind of love without obedience but it
ends in damnation. Jesus asked Peter in John 21 if he "Agaped" Him enough to obey Him and
forget his fishing career to feed His sheep. Peter answered that he only had "phileo" love.
Emotions are good when submitted to the Spirit but they are also the foundation for all sin. For
instance: Anger leads to wrath and lust leads to fornication. "Phileo" in God is very good
because His emotions are submitted to His Spirit but "phileo" in man is easily manipulated by
the devil. God never commanded us to "phileo" Him but He did command us many times to
"Agape" Him.
Deceiving spirits are heightening the "phileo" love in the Toronto/Brownsville infected people to
make them believe that they "Agape" Him when they do not obey Him. This destroys the rock of
the Word to live on and replaces it with the sands of their own opinions. (Mt.7:21} Not every
one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that
doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. {22} Many will say to me in that day, Lord,
Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy
name do many mighty works? {23} And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:
depart from me, ye that work iniquity. {24} Every one therefore that heareth these words
of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the
rock: {25} and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat
upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. {26} And every one that
heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man,
who built his house upon the sand: {27} and the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.
Those who are the true anointed of the Lord have His Word in their mouth and stand on the
Rock of obedience to it. (2 Sam.23:1)... David the son of Jesse saith, And the man who was
raised on high saith, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel:
{2} The Spirit of Jehovah spake by me, And his word was upon my tongue. {3} The God
of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spake to me: One that ruleth over men righteously, That
ruleth in the fear of God, {4} [He shall be] as the light of the morning, when the sun riseth,
A morning without clouds...

Now something even worse has come to pass. The Toronto/Brownsville infected people have
degenerated into "eros" love toward God. Eros was the Greek god of love and desire. He is
usually depicted as a young winged boy with bow and arrows to shoot into the hearts of men
which would rouse them to desire. The IHOP (International House of Prayer) music and others
spawned by this false revival for instance displays a physical attraction for the Lord and His
physical attraction for us. This will lead them even deeper into deception, lust, fornication and
self will than before.

Recently I saw a demon in a brother and then I heard him speak of ignoring the Word to follow
the "spirit." This is common in the Toronto/Brownsville brethren. The other elders also felt this
and we cast these demons out. This brother was then convicted by the Lord about the IHOP
music he had been listening to. He brought it to me and played some of it. I heard the sexual
connotations and told him that the mistaken love represented in the lyrics was "eros love" and
was deceptively replacing God's "Agape love." It was then that he showed me this article he
was bringing to me, which confirmed in the first words that this was “eros” love. I also
recognized in the lyrics the "fire chants," that were so common to the Toronto/Brownsville
deception. It was common in the music for them to sing that the fire burned in their spirit or soul
but never in their flesh. This is the exact opposite of what true Christian desire is.

Here is the article that confirmed my word:
                               JESUS AS "LOVER"?
                                  by Andrew Strom
Is there a problem with a "Romantic Lover" Jesus?
ABOUT THE "ROMANCING JESUS" MOVEMENT:

What does the term "Passion for Jesus" mean to you? Would it surprise you to learn
that whole Christian movements are now using it to mean a kind-of "eros" love for Jesus
- a 'passion' for Him similar to what an earthly husband and wife have for each other?
(From the word "eros" we ultimately get the word 'erotic'). And what does the term
"Intimacy with Jesus" mean to you? Would it surprise you to learn that many are now
using it to mean sensual "romantic" encounters with Jesus - with Him as the Bridegroom
and them as the 'Bride'?

You may think that such unscriptural practices must be out on the "fringe" somewhere.
Surely they cannot be part of mainstream Christianity? Well, look around you, because
this stuff is now everywhere. I live very close to one of the world's largest and most
influential prayer centers here in Kansas City - and it has been a major source of this
"Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching for many years. And now it is all around the world.
At this center you will find hundreds of young men and women who will tell you about
being "ravished" for Jesus, "kissing" Jesus and 'swooning' in His arms, etc. Their entire
understanding of "WHO GOD IS" and their relationship with Him is being shaped by this
teaching. -And it is an utter twisting of Scripture.

Why is it important to have a right concept of "WHO GOD IS"? Why does it matter so
much? Well, this one thing shapes everything else about our faith and our relationship
with the Lord. At the heart of a lot of cults and deceptions is a fundamental mis-
apprehension of the true character and nature of God - ie. "Who He is - How we
approach Him". It really does affect EVERYTHING.

Now, imagine that there is a new doctrine that re-invents our very understanding of God
- a doctrine that sweeps the world and catches up many young people. So, is this new
doctrine based on a careful exegesis of the New Testament, you ask? -No! To your
surprise you find that it is largely based on "spiritualizing" the SONG OF SOLOMON.
Yes, that's right. An entire re-inventing of our relationship with God based not on the
New Testament, but on Solomon's love-poetry about the body and breasts and
comeliness of one of his 700 wives. -Wonderful poetry to be sure, but what kind of basis
is that for such a drastic change in our basic beliefs?
(So is there no benefit to be gained from an 'allegorical' understanding of the Song Of
Solomon? -Certainly there is! Hudson Taylor and others used it this way. But that is not
the point I am making. The real issue is this:- Should we re-invent our entire
understanding of "Who God is" and how we approach Him - to fit in with a tiny book of
semi-erotic poetry from the Old Testament? Should this become our dominant
understanding of God?)

As history shows us again and again, to the equal degree that we lose our grasp of the
real character and nature of God - to this same degree we will lose genuine Christianity.
You cannot have the true New Testament Faith if you have lost the true New Testament
Jesus. -Which is why it is so serious when people say that in the West today we have
invented a kind-of "American Jesus" to suit our self-centered, "me"-focused lifestyle.
They point out that today you mostly hear of a Jesus who exists to make you "happy"
rather than holy, a Jesus who is always a "friend" but never a Judge, a Jesus who does
not any longer hate sin or demand repentance, but only wants you prosperous and
'blessed'. This is a Jesus that utterly suits our selfish Western mindset, but is found
nowhere in the Bible.

And the new "Jesus As Lover" doctrine is just another twist in the ongoing tale of
modern Christians distorting the character and nature of God.

Does Jesus love us? Of course He does - more than words can tell. And are we to love
Him? Of course! -With all our heart, mind, soul and strength! But does this mean that we
are to approach Him with a sensual "romantic" love, like some adolescent schoolgirl,
"swooning" and smooching with our 'lover' Jesus? Is that what God's love means? Are
we to exchange 'agape' for emotional "eros" and act like Jesus's "girlfriend" here on
earth? (-Men as well as women?) God forbid!

Of course we know that in Scripture the corporate body of Christ (particularly at the end
of the age) is described as the "Bride" of Christ. But isn't it obvious that this is talking
about the 'CORPORATE' Body - not individual Christians? Are we each to become
Jesus's little "girlfriends" here on earth - or is it the "WHOLE BODY" that is to one day
be the Bride of Christ? -Clearly it is the latter.

The effect of this doctrine on young men is particularly distressing. To describe it as
"effeminate" is quite an understatement. As it is, the modern church is already known
for being an "anti-masculine" zone, with its flower displays, pink walls, mauve carpets,
emotion- laden music, etc. A lot of commentators point to this when discussing the low
attendance of men in our churches. But this new doctrine takes this theme to undreamt-
of depths.
Can you imagine zealous praying young men who relate to Jesus (ie. another MALE) as
a "lover" whom they kiss and 'swoon' over? Can you imagine what happens when this
becomes their basic approach to God? -And this is just the beginning of the gender-
bending weirdness that is starting to become "normal" in this movement. (Some are in
such deception that they even have experiences of "Jesus" kissing them on the mouth,
etc. The movement itself warns against "sensual encounters" but their very teaching
leads directly to this kind of thing. Deceiving spirits are always super-active in this kind
of environment. Where do you think the famed 'incubus' and 'succubus' originate from?)

The ironic thing is that a lot of the people who are into this doctrine claim to be "seeking
Revival". They really think that this is the kind of 'intimacy' that God desires. It is greatly
influencing the modern 'Prayer' movement, the Prophetic movement and the 'Worship'
movement (-which explains the recent rash of songs with "Song of Solomon" type
themes: "I kiss you with the kisses of my mouth", "Take me into your chamber", etc).

I find their talk of "Revival" particularly ironic, because I have studied Revival for many
years, and I am aware that all the old Revivalists prayed to a God who is very different
from what is being presented here. -And their understanding of "WHO GOD IS" was
utterly crucial to their obtaining Revival. They prayed to a God of holiness and majesty
and awe - a God of glory who hates sin, yet sent His son to die for sinners.

The God that the old Revivalists prayed to was the "throne room" God that Isaiah
described- "I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train
filled the temple... And one cried to another and said, Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of
hosts: The whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice
of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke." (Is 6:1-5).

This is the "throneroom" God who is described again in Revelation chapter 4 - where we
are told that the four beasts cry, "Holy, holy, holy" day and night without ceasing, and
the 24 elders cast down their crowns before His throne - over and over again. It is
"HOLINESS" that is the chief characteristic of God! No other characteristic is ever
repeated three times together in the Bible - let alone over and over, day and night! -
"HOLY, HOLY, HOLY."

And actually, the full title of the book of Revelation is the "Revelation of Jesus Christ".
So in other words, it is a 'revealing' of who Jesus is and what He is really like. And when
John (the 'beloved' disciple) first sees the glorified Christ in Revelation 1, we are told
that such is His terror-inducing holiness and glory that John fell at his feet "as though
dead." -This is the true Jesus - as He really is.
In every true Revival, it is the God of majesty who reveals himself. For Revival is the
"Glory of God" coming down. It is His very 'throne room' presence coming down
amongst men. Thus, even His own children should approach Him with awe. And if we
do not pray to this God, then we should not expect Revival at all. -That is one of the
basic lessons of Revival history. -We must pray to the 'RIGHT GOD' if we are going to
see true Revival.

Incidentally, the 'Bride of Christ' in Revelation is described as a 'holy city' - a "new
Jerusalem" coming down from heaven. (Rev 21). So it is clearly a 'CORPORATE' entity
that exists at the end of the age. -Not some individualized "girlfriend of Jesus" in the
here-and-now.

It is a very serious thing to tamper with our understanding of 'WHO GOD IS' and how
we relate to Him. In a lot of ways it is like preaching "another Jesus". -It really is that
bad. If you hear phrases today like 'Lovesick for Jesus', 'Bridal Paradigm', "Bridal
intimacy", "Inflamed heart", 'Romancing', "Ravished", 'Fascinated', etc, then you can be
pretty sure that you are being exposed to this deceptive doctrine. I believe it is serious
error, and I urge you to flee from it as far as you can, my friends.

READERS REPLY TO THE ABOVE ARTICLE:
"D--" writes:

I ran into this a few weeks ago at our home fellowship. A woman whom I see to be very
Spirit filled, was talking to us at the dinner table about being taken into the "upper
chambers" where Jesus laid her down on a bed of roses (because He is the Rose of
Sharon He can do that, she said), and that He made love to her. She described to me
this whole scene as if it were out of a romance novel. The thought of Jesus actually
making love to me made me sick... I was actually disheartened, grieved and shocked
that she was talking about this. What gets me is that her friends who were with her all
agreed as if this was sound biblical doctrine.

[NOTE: The above email is not from Kansas City - but rather from elsewhere in the
USA. It is a good example of what is happening as this doctrine spreads around the
world. Please note that the prayer center in Kansas City does NOT teach in any way
that we should have sexual or 'physical' encounters with Jesus. However, their teaching
certainly lays the groundwork for it - and is the ultimate cause of it, in my opinion. Their
claim is that it is "immature" believers who are misusing and distorting their teaching.

Well yes - of course! But they are actually preaching it to thousands of "immature"
believers themselves! In fact, this seems to be their "target" audience. The hundreds of
young people at their own prayer center boast an average age of 22 years, reportedly.
So yes - a whole lot of "immature" believers are being greatly influenced by this
doctrine. Tell me then - whose fault is this? Is it right for the KC leadership to simply
wash its hands of the evil effects that this doctrine is having around the world? Isn't this
actually the "fruit" of this teaching? -Isn't it producing "bad fruit" wherever it goes?]

"J----" writes:

I just went to a ladies retreat two weeks ago and the theme was this same "lover Jesus"
as portrayed in a book they used called, "With an Everlasting Love"... It was so Godless
and selfish and full of "eros", putting thoughts and feelings in whoever reads it that
certainly did not bring glory to God... I now have the opportunity to confront the pastor's
wife about this teaching that literally every woman fell for (except me!) and was "wooed"
by their sensuality as women and the need for love, that they sucked it right up.

"R---" writes:
I moved here to KC 2 years ago to attend [the Prayer Center]... I have been so
confused by the whole up-sweep of the "Bridal Paradigm" and ravished heart of Jesus
and Song of Solomon. I cannot relate to Jesus as romantic lover, nor do I want to!! I am
trying to have clean thoughts and a pure heart. I want a Godly husband to be that for
me, to model Christ's love and headship. All my friends tell me, "Jesus is your husband
- let Him be your first love and your provider". As if I should shun men and give up on
the idea of marriage.

The Editor of a Prophetic Newsletter - who follows the whole movement closely - writes:

I too have been concerned about this for a while. In particular I have seen much written
about intimacy without any reference to obeying the revealed will of God. Jesus said, "If
you love me, you will obey my commands." The intimacy emphasis is not just out of
balance, it is dangerously soulish, promising emotional experiences and opening up the
way to deceiving spirits if pursued too far.

"C---" writes:

What's amazing is how the presence of this teaching is like yeast. For a few years I was
among believers who had absorbed 'bridal paradigm' teaching out of KC. It had a weird
way of rubbing off. Even though I'd never even encountered it myself directly, for awhile
I'd unwittingly absorbed some of it & had some dreams I now know came from unclean
spirits. Thankfully my discernment antennaes began picking up on & rejecting the
unholy nature of all this. Like many such excesses, it's the mixture that results when
deception is mingled with the pure revelation of the Spirit that's so very, very deadly.

"L---" writes:

There is a strange message behind this Bridal Paradigm. -It was shown at the CALL in
Kansas City. I was there. I witnessed this. There was a call to all those young people
who were in attendance at this KC gathering and a few older - to pledge a marriage
covenant right then that night to be MARRIED to Christ.

There was a Marriage Canopy held up for a marriage procession as hundreds marched
under it as to become covenantly married to Christ. They made it seem so righteous
and holy - So - many threw away their discernment and followed the leaders - forgetting
that the marriage actually takes place in heaven at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

CBN NEWS REPORT - JAN 6, 2002:

"THE CALL" IN KANSAS CITY: A Marriage Covenant with Jesus.
By Wendy Griffith, CBN News Reporter.
Some 20,000 mostly young people packed the Kansas City Convention Center on New
Year's Eve for a wedding ceremony unlike any other... as each person who came
embarked on a marriage covenant with the Bridegroom of Heaven... From noon until
midnight they danced and sang, fasted and prayed, and got ready to get married to
Jesus.

"There's going to be a wedding and God is raising up friends of the Bridegroom to
prepare the church, there's going to be a wedding!"

One by one, thousands of men and women, young and old, made their vows and
walked under the prayer shawl symbolizing their commitment to Jesus.

[A COMMENTATOR NOTES: The huppah is in fact an integral part of a binding
WEDDING CEREMONY between man and woman; therefore what these young people
were doing was getting married - but to whom? The Bible tells us that the marriage of
the Lamb takes place "in heaven" and only at the Day of Redemption when all believers
are gathered in. It does not take place on earth as a "preparation" for the Lord's
coming].

Continuing the CBN Report...

"Stewart Greaves, a 30-year-old, said, "I really feel like the Lord is calling young people
to fall madly in love with Him. I've always felt that the difference between religion and
relationship is intimacy with Jesus..."

Here in Kansas City, there has already been a tremendous focus on the bridal love of
Jesus... where for three and a half years, a team of prophetic singers, intercessors and
others have held 24-hour-a-day praise and worship focusing on Jesus as the
bridegroom.
[-END of NEWS REPORT].


FROM a BOOK that is Required Reading at the School of this Kansas City prayer
center:

"He [God] has given Himself to both the exhilarations and the woundings of a lovesick
heart. When He gazes upon me, He sees through the eyes of love and desire. He
comes before me and says, 'I am a Man in love. I am a God that burns with desire, and I
have set My affections on you. I am an all-consuming fire of love, and you are the
inheritance that My Father has promised me. Will you receive My love?'" (Pg 57).
"O Gaze Eternal,
How penetrating are Your Fires
Rushing through my darkest places
With the burning streams of Desire
Leaving me naked, purged and bare
... Yet embraced...
You take hold of my weakest places
And kiss them with Your mercy
Lifting up my low grounds
With your mighty love so holy..." (Pg 52).

"She lifted her arms wide to the Lord and said with all of her strength and her love,
'Enjoy me. Right here, right now, in my absolute weakness, enjoy me.'" (Pg 84).


[NOTE: The above book goes on and on in a similar vein for 200 pages. We remind you
again that this is an officially recommended publication at this Kansas City prayer
center, with a Foreword by the LEADER of the movement himself. It is "Required
Reading" for the young people at their ministry School.

When they talk about a Bridal "Paradigm" - what do they mean? Well, a 'paradigm' is a
new mindset or "world-view". These people are now viewing Jesus and Christianity
through an entirely new set of lenses, so to speak - ie. Through this 'BRIDAL' Paradigm.
-For many, that is now their dominant understanding of Jesus Christ.]

TRUE "INTIMACY" WITH GOD
-by Andrew Strom.
With all this talk about the error of the "Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching, I don't want
to give the impression that I am against having a deep relationship with God. The fact is
- my whole ministry is devoted to bringing people into a closer and closer walk with Him
- a walk of truly deep communion. But there is one very important difference. -And it is
all to do with the 'CHARACTER' of God, and how we approach Him.

Since I was 17 years old - when I first went through a true "Revival" experience in my
life - I have found myself in deep communion with God in prayer. Many times I have
found myself (as it were) in the very 'throne room' presence of God, where all I could do
was behold His glory and majesty in awe - often with tears streaming down my face.
"HOLY HOLY HOLY". Sometimes I have been unable to speak or utter any word for
hours at a time - because what words are sufficient for such things? -This is the God
that I came to deeply love. -A 'HOLY' God. And I believe that 'knowing' God deeply in
this way is for every believer. In fact, this is what I spoke about at our recent 'Gathering'.
-'Personal Revival' and coming into a state of deep communion with Him. I am totally
committed to the fact that this is God's will for every Christian. -Nothing 'unusual'.

But there are "foundations" that must be laid to come into this. And one of the most
important of these foundations is a right understanding of God as a 'HOLY' God. -I
mean deeply and utterly "Holy". -Holy beyond words and almost beyond
comprehension. The more we get a grasp of God's HOLINESS, the more we ourselves
desire holiness, and the closer and closer to Him we become. I have seen this and I
know it is true.

We all know the Scripture- "The FEAR of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom." But
what a lot of us don't realize is that it is through this reverential 'Fear' of the Lord that we
ultimately come into a deep 'LOVE' relationship with Him. It is utterly crucial that we
embrace His judgments and holiness - as well as His mercy and grace. And as this
foundation of God's glory and holiness and majesty is laid in our hearts, our whole
approach to Him changes. We start to see Him as He really is - in all His GLORY - and
we start to LOVE Him more and more. And as His holiness works its way more and
more into our lives, we come closer and closer to Him - not in any "romantic" or
'sensual' way, but in a 'HOLY' way. -This is a major secret of the 'Revived' life:
Apprehending the 'HOLY' character and nature of God. -That is where it starts.

Which is why I have such a problem with the "Jesus as Lover" teaching. -Because it
brings God down to "our level" - a sentimental 'romantic' level rather than a 'throneroom'
one. It is an awful distortion. I believe it actually ruins a lot of people's relationship with
God - rather than helping it. In many ways it is a "false Jesus" that is being preached -
and the approach is completely wrong.
I know from Scripture and all Revival history that it is the God of GLORY and
HOLINESS - the "throne room" God - that we must get to know if we are to come into
the deepest heart communion and intimacy with Him. The 'Fear' of the Lord really is the
beginning of wisdom.

Through the free gift of the cleansing blood of Jesus - a FREE GIFT - we can truly and
deeply become the 'FRIEND' of the King of Kings. -Now, how precious is that?? How
many billions of dollars could you pay for that?? -We can actually become the 'FRIEND'
of the God of all glory - Creator of the Universe. This is the God that we can come to
deeply know and love. And the key is His 'HOLINESS'.

TO SUM IT ALL UP:
I am convinced that the "Jesus as Romantic Lover" teaching is more than just an over-
emphasis. It is serious error, which is producing bad fruit all over the world.

But more than that, I regard it as an utterly "anti-Revival" doctrine. If you are a seeker of
true Revival, then I cannot imagine a worse way to be sidetracked than this. It promises
a new kind of "intimacy" with Jesus, yet delivers only cheap 'romance'. And it fights
against true 'holiness' preaching (ie. Revival preaching) by bringing God down to a more
earthy and soulish and sentimental level. You cannot ever conceive of it preaching
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." At the end of the day, I believe it simply
preaches a 'FALSE JESUS'.

Of course, our culture today is saturated with sex and romance, so this "Romantic Lover
Jesus" doctrine plays right along with that. But are we supposed to adapt our whole
understanding of God to the sick culture of the day, or are we supposed to represent the
TRUE JESUS as He really is - and change the world? Clearly the latter, of course. To
change our gospel to make Jesus a "wooing" romantic lover, chasing his beloved and
playing "hide & seek" with her, is obviously 'off' in a major way. But you can see why
many of our youth are falling for it.

Of course, there is another distorted teaching related to this, which is also coming out of
that same group in Kansas City. It is the over-emphasis on how much God aches and
desires and takes "pleasure" in us - even in our "weakness" and 'brokenness' and
sinfulness, etc. Again, when this is distorted and over-emphasized to such an extreme,
it becomes an "anti-Revival" doctrine of the worst kind. I have been studying Revival
now for over 20 years, and I would say that this kind of teaching is just about the worst
barrier to true Revival in existence. Instead of exalting God, it portrays Him as
excessively 'emotional', as He woos and enjoys us with His 'inflamed' heart - even in our
'weakness' (ie. sin). In other words, the seriousness of sin is down-played and "we"
become the center instead of God. Again, this is in direct opposition to all true Revival
preaching, and it simply amazes me that any "Revival-seeking" group would come out
with it.

Of course, as we have intimated before, this "Bridal" teaching seems to distort or ruin
almost everything it touches. 'FASTING' is another example. Here is what one person
wrote about their encounter with 'Bridegroom' fasting: "I have had experience with some
ministry that included what they call a "bridegroom fast" where they mourn in
"lovesickness" for the purpose of experiencing more of divine Love. Seems to be really
over-emphasizing emotional experiences." - Yes - exactly!
So is such 'Bridegroom' fasting actually pleasing to God? Does He even notice it at all?
And what about their 'Bridegroom' PRAYING? Or their 'Bridegroom' MUSIC? (-Of which
there seems to be such an abundance!) -Does any of it actually achieve what it is
supposed to achieve? Or is it all based on a completely false perception of God?

These are the questions that need to be seriously considered by anyone who is thinking
of getting involved in this movement.
                              … Back to the Trojan Horse
                                           David Eells

Here is a portion of Sovereign God for Us and Through Us in which I was speaking of this
Trojan Horse Revival that was brought into the Church by ignorant apostate leadership.

   Some of these serpent false ministries are as Pharaoh’s wise men and sorcerers who
   counterfeited the signs and wonders given to Moses (Ex.7:11,22; 8:7). It is interesting to
   note that though they could counterfeit some of the judgments (turning their staff into a
   serpent, turning waters into blood, and multiplying the plague of frogs), they could not
   remove them. Moses removed them, meaning God permitted them to magnify the curse, but
   not to deliver from it. It is still true today.

   I have a friend who was mixed up in a ministry (Toronto/Brownsville) that was seeing many
   signs and wonders. As I watched, I noticed that these supernatural occurrences were not
   the gifts of provision as in the book of Acts or in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. These signs and
   wonders seemed to be placebos to pacify a desire for the supernatural. They were flesh-
   pleasing signs that brought no practical, lasting deliverance from the curse. I perceived
   deceiving spirits involved and even saw some through the gift of discerning of spirits. When
   some tried to constrain them to stick to the Word, they would merely pass it off saying that
   God was doing a new thing. Even though there may be new things to our own experience,
   Solomon said, “There is no new thing under the sun.” We should find precedent in the
   Word for our signs and wonders. Paul warned of lying signs and wonders that come through
   Satan and his minions but are sent by God to deceive those who do not love truth (2
   Thes.2:9-12). In concern for my friend whom I knew was gifted with dreams and visions, I
   prayed that the Lord would give her some to warn her of what was going on. The next time I
   saw her she related to me that she saw a vision in her church assembly. The ceiling
   disappeared, and she saw a great red dragon (“the old serpent”) stretched over the whole
   building. God was obviously saying that Satan was exercising dominion through deception
   there. Then she saw another vision: a Trojan horse was being wheeled through the back
   door. A voice told her, “Christians brought that in here.” This symbolized a false gift in which
   the enemy was hidden in order to conquer them.

   If the demons cannot keep you out of Christianity entirely, they have another strategy. There
   are religious spirits that specialize in keeping people in bondage to false, so-called
   “Christian” religions that do not teach the Word that sets free. There are many serpent spirits
   at work in the church today deceiving many with “doctrines of demons,” as Paul shared in
   1 Timothy 4:1-3. Serpent spirits are manifest as false directions, doctrines, prophecies, and
   leadership to name a few. (2 Cor.11:13) For such men are false apostles (Greek: “one
   sent forth”), deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into apostles of Christ. (14) And
   no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel (Greek: “messenger”) of
   light (truth). (15) It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves
   as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works. The word
   “angel” in Greek is angelos, and is sometimes translated “messenger” when describing
   ministers who are sent by God or other ministers (Lk.7:24,27; 9:52). It is obvious that there
   are men who have infiltrated the ranks of ministers who are sent by Satan through their own
   ego and religious organizations. Both Jesus and Paul taught that these ministers were in the
   majority (Jn.10:8; 2 Cor.2:17).

   These serpent spirits can also be mind-corrupting such as lust, greed, anger, bitterness,
   lying, homosexuality, alcoholism, idolatry, and uncleanness.

I asked the Lord to show me about this false revival so I could show others. He sent me to a
church not far from Brownsville that I had also ministered in several times. One of the
Brownsville ministers was bringing the “revival” there. There was a lot of fleshly showy stuff
going on, which is normal for that “revival.” He was going around slapping his bible on people’s
chest saying, “The Word of God in your heart. The Word of God in your heart.” Of course it
didn’t work. It was a placebo. Nothing can replace obeying what you read in the Word. After the
show there was an altar call. The Lord told me to go down and get into the line to be prayed for.
I questioned Him because of the religious spirits I saw in the minister. After He confirmed His
direction I started for the altar. I felt to pray on the way down and forbid any religious spirit to
touch me in Jesus' name. I got in line and about 2/3 of the way down the line and the minister
was working his way toward me, praying for people who had various manifestations: jerking,
twitching and falling out. He stopped in front of me and put his hands out to put them on my
chest to pray for me and instead of touching me his whole body pushed back and his eyes got
big. He put out his hands again and his whole body pushed back again and his eyes got bigger.
The third time this happened he fell on the ground and prayed for no one else in the line. I had
my clear answer: religious spirits.
Ever wonder why Christians from the Toronto/Brownsville Revival seem so very
happy and care free? It is because they have cast off the crucified life of
submission to the Word. A revelation was given to an early Church Father named
Hermas in the early second century. In a vision the Lord appeared to him as a
Shepherd revealing many things about true and false Christian life, which he was
to send to the churches. Read what was revealed about these unrestrained,
Biblically irresponsible people. These who only want to sing, praise, listen to their
music chants and impart their deceptive, false fire anointing to the unsuspecting
who almost immediately forsake the Word. Don't let them lay their hands on you.
They are carriers of a demonic disease. If they have laid hands on you renounce it
and get deliverance quickly.
                  The Shepherd of Hermas (Book III, Similitude 6)
CHAPTER l.

Sitting in my house, and glorifying the Lord for all that I had seen, and reflecting on the
commandments, that they are excellent, and powerful, and glorious, and able to save a
man's soul, I said within myself, "I shall be blessed if I walk in these commandments,
and every one who walks in them will be blessed." While I was saying these words to
myself, I suddenly see him sitting beside me, and hear him thus speak: "Why are you in
doubt about the commandments which I gave you? They are excellent: have no doubt
about them at all, but put on faith in the Lord, and you will walk in them, for I will
strengthen you in them. These commandments are beneficial to those who intend to
repent: for if they do not walk in them, their repentance is in vain You, therefore, who
repent cast away the wickedness of this world which wears you out; and by putting on
all the virtues of a holy life, you will be able to keep these commandments, and will no
longer add to the number of your sins. Walk, therefore, in these commandments of
mine, and you will live unto God. All these things have been spoken to you by me." And
after he had uttered these words, he said to me, "Let us go into the fields, and I will
show you the shepherds of the flocks." "Let us go, sir," I replied. And we came to a
certain plain, and he showed me a young man, a shepherd, clothed in a suit of
garments of a yellow color: and he was herding very many sheep, and these sheep
were feeding luxuriously (Note: The Lord later explained that luxury was giving into sin
and fleshly pleasures.), as it were, and riotously, and merrily skipping hither and thither.
The shepherd himself was merry, because of his flock; and the appearance of the
shepherd was joyous, and he was running about amongst his flock. And other sheep I
saw rioting and luxuriating in one place, but not, however, leaping about.

CHAPTER II.

And he said to me, "Do you see this shepherd?" "I see him, sir," I said. "This," he
answered, "is the angel of luxury and deceit: he wears out the souls of the servants of
God, and perverts them from the truth, deceiving them with wicked desires, through
which they will perish; for they forget the commandments of the living God, and walk in
deceits and empty luxuries; and they are ruined by the angel, some being brought to
death, others to corruption:" I said to him, "Sir, I do not know the meaning of these
words, 'to death, and to corruption.'" "Listen," he said. "The sheep which you saw merry
and leaping about, are those which have tom themselves away from God for ever, and
have delivered themselves over to luxuries and deceits of this world. Among them there
is no return to life through repentance, because they have added to their other sins, and
blasphemed the name of the Lord. Such men therefore, are appointed unto death. And
the sheep which you saw not leaping, but feeding in one place, are they who have
delivered themselves over to luxury and deceit, but have committed no blasphemy
against the Lord. These have been perverted from the truth: among them there is the
hope of repentance, by which it is possible to live. Corruption, then, has a hope of a kind
of renewal, but death has everlasting ruin." Again I went forward a little way, and he
showed me a tall shepherd, somewhat savage in his appearance, clothed in a white
goatskin, and having a wallet on his shoulders, and a very hard staff with branches, and
a large whip. And he had a very sour look, so that I was afraid of him, so forbidding was
his aspect. This shepherd, accordingly, was receiving the sheep from the young
shepherd, those, viz., that were rioting and luxuriating, but not leaping; and he cast
them into a precipitous place, full of this ties and thorns, so that it was impossible to
extricate the sheep from the thorns and thistles; but they were completely entangled
amongst them. These, accordingly, thus entangled, pastured amongst the thorns and
thistles, and were exceedingly miserable, being beaten by him; and he drove them
hither and thither, and gave them no rest; and, altogether, these sheep were in a
wretched plight.

CHAPTER III.

Seeing them, therefore, so beaten and so badly used, I was grieved for them, because
they were so tormented, and had no rest at all. And I said to the Shepherd who talked
with me, "Sir, who is this shepherd, who is so pitiless and severe, and so completely
devoid of compassion for these sheep?"

"This," he replied, "is the angel of punishment; and he belongs to the just angels, and is
appointed to punish. He accordingly takes those who wander away from God, and who
have walked in the desires and deceits of this world, and chastises them as they
deserve with terrible and diverse punishments." "I would know, sir," I said, "Of what
nature are these diverse tortures and punishments?" "Hear," he said, "the various
tortures and punishments. The tortures are such as occur during life. For some are
punished with losses, others with want, others with sicknesses of various kinds, and
others with all kinds of disorder and confusion; others are insulted by unworthy persons,
and exposed to suffering in many other ways: for many, becoming unstable in their
plans, try many things, and none of them at all succeed, and they say they are not
prosperous in their undertakings; and it does not occur to their minds that they have
done evil deeds, but they blame the Lord. When, therefore, they have been afflicted with
all kinds of affliction, then are they delivered unto me for good training, and they are
made strong in the faith of the Lord; and for the rest of the days of their life they are
subject to the Lord with pure hearts, and are successful in all their undertakings,
obtaining from the Lord everything they ask; and then they glorify the Lord, that they
were delivered to me, and no longer suffer any evil."

CHAPTER IV.

I said to him, "Sir, explain this also to me." "What is it you ask?" he said. "Whether, sir," I
continued, "they who indulge in luxury, and who are deceived, are tortured for the same
period of time that they have indulged in luxury and deceit?" He said to me, "They are
tortured in the same manner." ["They are tormented much less, sir," I replied;] "for those
who are so luxurious and who forget God ought to be tortured seven-fold." He said to
me "You are foolish, and do not understand the power of torment." "Why, sir," I said, "if I
had understood it, I would not have asked you to show me." "Hear," he said, "the power
of both. The time of luxury and deceit is one hour; but the hour of torment is equivalent
to thirty days. If, accordingly, a man indulge in luxury for one day, and be deceived and
be tortured for one day, the day of his torture is equivalent to a whole year. For all the
days of luxury, therefore, there are as many years of torture to be undergone. You see,
then," he continued, "that the time of luxury and deceit is very short, but that of
punishment and torture long."

CHAPTER V.

"Still," I said, "I do not quite understand about the time of deceit, and luxury, and torture;
explain it to me more clearly." He answered, and said to me, "Your folly is persistent;
and you do not wish to purify your heart, and serve God. Have a care," he added, "lest
the time be fulfilled, and you be found foolish. Hear now," he added, "as you desire, that
you may understand these things. He who indulges in luxury, and is deceived for one
day, and who does what he wishes, is clothed with much foolishness, and does not
understand the act which he does until the morrow; for he forgets what he did the day
before. For luxury and deceit have no memories, on account of the folly with which they
are clothed; but when punishment and torture cleave to a man for one day, he is
punished and tortured for a year; for punishment and torture have powerful memories.
While tortured and punished, therefore, for a whole year, he remembers at last a his
luxury and deceit, and knows that an their account he suffers evil. Every man, therefore,
who is luxurious and deceived is thus tormented, because, although having life, they
have given themselves over to death." "What kinds of luxury, sir," I asked, "are hurtful?"
"Every act of a man which he performs with pleasure," he replied, "is an act of luxury;
for the sharp-tempered man, when gratifying his tendency, indulges in luxury; and the
adulterer, and the drunkard, and the back-biter, and the liar, and the covetous man, and
the thief, and he who does things like these, gratifies his peculiar propensity, and in so
doing indulges in luxury. All these acts of luxury are hurtful to the servants of God. On
account of these deceits, therefore, do they suffer, who are punished and tortured. And
there are also acts of luxury which save men; for many who do good indulge in luxury,
being carried away by their own pleasure: this luxury, however, is beneficial to the
servants of God, and gains life for such a man; but the injurious acts of luxury before
enumerated bring tortures and punishment upon them; and if they continue in them and
do not repent, they bring death upon themselves."
         Questions Concerning the Toronto/Brownsville Experience
I live two miles from Brownsville and have warred with the deceiving spirits of that revival for
almost 10 years. If you go to a revival and instead of calling upon the name of the Lord, they are
chanting the mantra Fire, Fire, Fire; or More, More, More; or More power or More fire. Run, they
are calling forth the Toronto/Brownsville spirits to deceive you with lying signs and wonders.
God gives Biblical signs and wonders to confirm the people who speak His true Word. Lying
signs and wonders confirm a lie and a people who come to spread a lie.

{2 Thes. 2:8} And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay
with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9}
[even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs
and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for
this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that
they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

If you are prayed over or more correctly preyed upon by these people renounce it quickly.
Notice that unless you are protected because of your love for the Word and righteous living
several things will happen. You will be deceived by Satan as a working of error sent by God. I
have seen several things consistently in the infected people. They begin to hear the voice and
follow the leading of God-impersonating spirits. {Dt.13:1} If there arise in the midst of thee a
prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, {2} and the sign or
the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other
gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; {3} thou shalt not hearken unto
the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth
you, to know whether ye love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your
soul. {4} Ye shall walk after Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his
commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. They
become so convinced this is the voice of God they come to respect their false word rather than
the true Word. Because they now do not have this standard there is no conviction and restraint
for their life and they are given over to their past lusts or new lusts. The spirits in them will rail
with lies at those who recognize them as false spirits and love the Word. As this infection
progresses these people not only come to respect these unbiblical signs but are able to pass on
the spirits who bring the strong delusion and perform them.

It was the Brownsville Assembly of God church in Pensacola, Florida, that opened the door for
this Trojan Horse and then many other churches of this denomination jumped in. The reason
they were chosen to be the prime leaders of this is obvious. They do not believe that Christians
can have demons. Since they believed that these could not be demons manifesting in and
through their brethren, then it must be God. Once again departure from the Word opened them
up to this deception. Jesus commanded His disciples not to go to any Gentiles but only to Israel
to cast out demons (Mt.10:5-8). This is because they had the covenant right to deliverance and
the lost did not. Jesus also told the Syrophoenician woman who wanted deliverance for her
daughter that “it is not meet to take the children’s bread and cast it to the dogs” (Mk.7:26,
27). This means that only the children of God can have deliverance from their demons.Because
this woman expressed faith in Jesus, and faith is accounted as righteousness in the New
Covenant that He was making, she received her request. The Assemblies being a rather
traditional Pentecostal church was then able to influence many other people of like mind. This
was because none of them had become familiar with God’s Word.

I have been asked, “Can one have a partial infection?” Yes, for instance: I have seen some
receive the spirits that cause them to disrespect the Word but they still are not convinced of the
lying signs and wonders. The reason for this is simple. This has been revealed as a Trojan
Horse attack on the people of God. When the people of Troy brought what they thought was a
gift of their God inside their city, a relatively small group of the enemy was hidden inside. In the
darkness that came, these crept out and opened the gates to a larger army waiting outside.
Many Christians are bringing the false gift inside and if they continue in the darkness will sooner
or later be infested with more life destroying demons.

I have been asked, “Can one be prayed over by these people and not be infected at all?” Yes,
some of the Christians examining this phenomenon from inside the infected Churches or
elsewhere are ignorantly but honestly seeking only God and sometimes pray the famous prayer,
“Lord if this is not of you I don’t want it.” These usually escape infection in their ignorance.
{Pr.26:2} As the sparrow in her wandering, as the swallow in her flying, So the curse that
is causeless alighteth not. Remember Balaam was bribed to curse the people of God but
found he could not. {Num.23:8} How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? And how
shall I defy, whom Jehovah hath not defied? {9} For from the top of the rocks I see him,
And from the hills I behold him: lo, it is a people that dwelleth alone, And shall not be
reckoned among the nations. Notice that those who are separate from the world, which is the
meaning of sanctification, are blessed and cannot be cursed as Balaam went on to say. {20}
Behold, I have received [commandment] to bless: And he hath blessed, and I cannot
reverse it.

On the other hand as these same ignorant people begin to be warned of God by others or
through His Word and they ignore this, they become guilty of willful sin and the curse will
overtake them. We cannot bless those God has cursed. If you cast these demons out and the
victims do not repent, they will come back worse. Jesus said that when the demon is cast out of
an unrepentant person, meaning those who do not respect His Word, he would return and open
the gate for seven worse than himself (Mt.12:38-45). Frustrated because of seeing this in my
experience with these people I cried to the Father, “Lord what can I do for the
Toronto/Brownsville infected people?” He gave me an immediate answer. {Jer.7:27} And thou
shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also
call unto them; but they will not answer thee. {28} And thou shalt say unto them, This is
the nation that hath not hearkened to the voice of Jehovah their God, nor received
instruction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth. {29} Cut off thy hair
(Hebrew: crown), [O Jerusalem], and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the bare
heights; for Jehovah hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath. {30} For the
children of Judah (Spirit filled people) have done that which is evil in my sight, saith
Jehovah: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to
defile it. {31} And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the
son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded
not, neither came it into my mind. Notice that those who do not hear the true voice of God,
will not hear the Word of God through you, but will lose their crown, entering the wrath.

I have been asked, “What is the difference between the true gifts of God and the false?” The
true gifts of 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14 destroy the works of the Satan and cast him out. False gifts
never cast him out but bring him in. {Mk.3:23} And he called them unto him, and said unto
them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided
against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself,
that house will not be able to stand. {26} And if Satan hath risen up against himself, and
is divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. The true gifts are practical in that they bring
God’s salvation from the curse. The false gifts are for fleshly indulgence and entertainment and
slyly destroy the works of God. From God’s point of view they come to separate the wheat from
the tares especially in the time of the harvest as that parable in Matthew 13 shows.

I have been asked, “If I have been affected by this false revival, what can I do for deliverance?”
First repent, meaning, change your mind. Do not deny one Word of God because of your idols.
Believing flesh-appeasing doctrines to appease your own selfish ambitions will give God cause
to permit these demons to deceive you. {Eze.14:4}… Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Every
man of the house of Israel that taketh his idols into his heart, and putteth the
stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I Jehovah will
answer him therein according to the multitude of his idols; {5} that I may take the house
of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
God will send deception to those who have idols of personal ambition.

The next step in deliverance is to believe the Gospel that Father “delivered us out of the
power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love {Col.1:13}.
Take the authority you received from this and renounce and rebuke these deceiving spirits from
you. Renounce the false signs that have no relationship to what you see in Scriptures. If you
feel you need help call on true elders who are free of this deception to stand with you.

Love from your servant,

David

        E-mail From a Prophetess Who Was Involved in Brownsville

I know that this is a very unsettling time. This teaching on Brownsville/Toronto has really
stirred up a hornet's nest of spirits. As I told you a few days ago, the Lord had warned
me about certain relationships. So I guess this shouldn't come as a surprise, but still it is
a shock.

To be honest, I am a peacemaker by nature and want everyone to get along. I
wondered if things really had to be as "harsh" as they turned out, so this morning I took
it EARNESTLY to the Lord. I cried out to Him to show me the TRUTH in all of this, and
why were things getting so difficult. I said, "Lord, I have many friends who were/are
involved with Brownsville. They love you. Aren't we being a little 'harsh'?. Can't we just
sort of 'forgive' and move on?"

IMMEDIATELY, the Lord said, "Jeremiah 16." So I turned there........it is ABSOLUTELY
what I needed to hear. The reason things seem "harsh" is because God is dealing
harshly with this spirit!!! Please read Jeremiah 16, the whole chapter. It says that we are
not to get married in this place. That tells me NO COVENANT RELATIONSHIPS where
this spirit is.

So after I read that chapter and understood it, I said, "But Lord, what about me? I have
associated with some of these people carrying this spirit. Are you cutting me off?" He
lifted my eye up the page a bit to chapter 15 verses 19-21. Some of it says, "If you
return, then I will restore you--Before Me you will stand; and if you extract the precious
from the worthless, you will become My spokesman. They for their part may turn to
you, but as for you, you must not turn to them." So many of us are under God's mercy
right now, extracting the precious from the worthless.

Then I asked the Lord how you (David) had the understanding to deal so sharply with
this spirit, as I would have been more "forgive and forget" type thing. And this is what
the Lord said to me... "David has been a warrior against this spirit for a long time. He
has been in battle against it many times and therefore, recognizes it more quickly than
most. He also understands its tactics and has seen firsthand how devastating this spirit
can be to My people." (Look at what the Lord says is coming to them in chapter 16:4.)

David, I hope this will be an encouragement to you. I know it is hard. I, myself, HATE it.
But, I believe the Word....so be it!!

                     E-mail from a Brother Asking for a Sign

I asked the Lord about going to a meeting where gold dust was one of the signs along
with weight loss as some of the signs manifested in these meetings.

Well I went to the Lord and asked Him to show me if it was okay to go. I then opened
the Bible and my finger fell upon:

{2 Tim.4:3} For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine;
but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts;
{4} and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables.

Wow! What a revelation. Boy do we need the gift of discernment today. Is the Word
being preached and Jesus being lifted up? Watch out for these fleshly uplifting
preachers. Don't let anyone deceive you. We are in the last days.

            E-mail From Eric of Recent Brownsville Type Revival
In regards to these Brownsville spirits, I can attest to the fact that they are false and harmful.
False because all their manifestations fail to agree with the word of God. Harmful because they
distract from any true deliverance or worship of God.

Here is my experience and encounter with the Brownsville spirits.

I witnessed people who were supposedly being anointed with the Holy Ghost suddenly fall down
as if knocked out by a prize fighter. They called it "slain in the spirit." I saw others in fits of
maniacal laughter, while others were swaying or shaking, some as if they were drunk and others
as if they had bodies like Jell-O. There were strange chantings about fire and sexual overtones
to their speech. There were two charismatic preachers who were imparting these sensual spirits
and the women seemed to be attracted to them or rather the flirtatious spirits within them. When
they "groaned," it sounded like a man in the act of sex and their eyes were glassy and red like
someone high on marijuana. There were group impartations that caused everyone to fall down
together and there was even a couple of disturbing sexual poses. Nobody was prophesying in
an edifying way or teaching, there was no group prayer for healing or deliverance because most
of the people there were interested in coming back for more impartations like a drug addict
comes back for more. Even when an individual would try to recover they would impart more of
these spirits and put them back out. Please brethren, be informed that these spirits serve the
pleasures of the flesh and skillfully avoid any true edification of the spirit. They speak of the
power of God but they disobey his word. They speak in tongues but there is no way to interpret
what they say because no one seems to care what they are saying. They misquote scripture
and add to the Word their own suppositions because they need to justify these works of the
adversary. It is only about feeling good in the flesh. Our Lord, with a true word, teaches us to
sow to the spirit and not to the flesh.

Brethren, be warned. All of us have a responsibility to God to not only know the Word, but to
obey the Word. If we do not learn and obey the Word then we leave a door open for strong
delusion. For those who have ears to hear, let them hear. For those who have eyes to see, let
them see. Obey the Word and these unclean spirits will flee from you. Be cautious as to who
lays hands on you or prays over you, if you do not know their background or anything about
them. Keep studying the word in order to be approved.

                               A False Healing Revival in Florida?
                                         Andrew Strom 4/23/08


Many of you will have already heard about the "Healing Revival" that has purportedly broken out in
Lakeland, Florida. Today Charisma Magazine put out a piece on it entitled 'A Holy Ghost Outbreak in
Florida' - "...Charismatics are flocking to the sleepy town of Lakeland, Fla. to attend evangelist Todd
Bentley’s unconventional revival services." Is Charisma preparing to hype this one to the skies like they
did with Toronto and Rodney Howard- Browne? It seems perhaps they are.
But why am I opposed to this 'Healing Revival' so soon after it has been announced? -It is because I
already know Todd Bentley's ministry all too well, and this whole thing centers around him.

Todd Bentley actually has deep roots in the Prophetic movement, and he is one of the very few
ministers that I have ever felt I had to publicly warn people about by name. -His ministry is that bad.
False "angel" encounters of the weirdest kind, gold dust, guided visualizations of the "Third Heaven"
that are straight out of the New Age, etc. And yet there is a "power" with it that makes it all the more
dangerous.

Here is how Charisma describes his Florida meetings- "His methods are far from polished. When he
prayed for people in Lakeland, he usually began by laying his hand on their heads and then yelling,
“Bam!” Often the people fell backward to the floor. After one elderly woman fell, Bentley told the
audience: “She doesn’t know why she fell down.” The woman then laughed and said to him in the
microphone: “Because you pushed me!” He prayed for her three more times that night, and she said she
could hear better... During the past three weeks people have testified of being healed from heart
conditions, skin rashes and back problems, and many said scars disappeared... Many charismatics are
wondering if the protracted meetings will become a phenomenon similar to what happened in Rodney
Howard-Browne’s meetings in Lakeland in 1993, at the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Canada in
1994 and at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola in 1995..." [END QUOTE]

Sadly, the Charismatic movement is in such a sick state today that it would not surprise me at all if this
happens. (-I say this as a strong Spirit-filled, tongues-speaking believer myself. I am by no means
opposed to genuine miracles). Have we completely forgotten the warnings of "Lying signs and wonders"
in the Last Days?

Below is a testimony by Lynn Clark who is a Moderator at our website 'RevivalSchool.com'. This is what
she wrote about her involvement with Todd Bentley's ministry:

"I decided to check out Patricia King and Todd Bentley and, ignorant of their 'third heaven' guided
visualizations, attended a five day conference of Patricia King and then two of Todd Bentley's
conferences and began to imagine third heaven visitations - guided visualization - still not realizing that
these are actually spirits of darkness - the New Age calls them spirit guides - demons is what they are.
And so I bought Todd Bentley's teaching on third heaven visitations and brought it home to listen to. "I
was in my living room laying on the floor listening to the teaching on how to visualize the third heaven
and what to say and was getting caught up into his teaching and all of a sudden I began to shake
uncontrollably and jerk and groan, and no sooner had this taken place I became frozen stiff - I could not
move any part of my body and I knew this was a demon trying to take hold of me, and so with all the
effort I could muster I cried out, "God save me - Jesus help me" - and as soon as I cried out to the Lord
my body went limp. God spared me that night and I will be forever grateful.

"I spent much of the night in tears asking God to forgive me - and renouncing all the hands layed on me
and all the awful deception I had opened myself up to..." [END QUOTE]
ANDREW AGAIN: I myself have heard the tapes of Todd Bentley's "Third Heaven Visualization"
teachings, and I want to tell you - they are straight out of the New Age handbook. -Terrible stuff. And yet
so widely accepted by thousands of Christians today.

Do these kinds of practices (above) produce a genuine 'Healing Revival'? -These are the kinds of
questions that we need to be asking Charisma Magazine. I leave it for you to decide.



Please also listen to the following audios:

Wolves in the Church
1 (57:05)
2 (57:32)
3 (58:30)
4 (53:48)

Escape from Christendom
1 (1:04:03)
2 (1:03:35)

Avoiding the Deception that Separates
1 (1:00:55)
2 (51:13)
3 (52:50)




               Toronto/Brownsville Spin-off "Revivals"
                                      Deceptive Spin-Off Revival

                                        Brandon Davis - 5/27/08
                                         (David's notes in red)

I want to praise God for your ministry and the discernment that has been given through the
recent discussions of the false revivals. I am a part of a spirit-filled church here in Longview,
Texas, and although it is very Word-based, and I love the people there, my eyes have been
opened to see some areas where deception from the false prophetic movement has tried to
creep into our church. I see where I was deceived on some things. I now have my guard up to
be aware of these deceptive influences and am praying that God will give me discernment and
help me to warn those who are being deceived by this thing. Please pray that God gives me the
gift of discernment to help me know beyond a doubt when deceptive spirits are at work, and
warn those who are being deceived by this.

I had a dream which disturbed me back at the end of May 2008. This was just before the
Lakeland revival broke out; I had never heard of Lakeland or Todd Bentley or what was going
on there until last week, May 16. Now I believe perhaps it had to do with deceptive revival. In
the first part of the dream, I was standing in front of a mirror and there was a guy standing
beside me on the left in the reflection (but only in the reflection). This guy had a grinning,
mischievous expression on his face. (After I woke up I knew he was a demon.) (A demon which
is not seen in the natural but is there in spirit to deceive is clearly what is happening in the false
revival movement.)

He said, "Let me show you this cool trick… everybody's doing it," and then he laid hands on me,
and tricked me into swallowing my tongue. I did NOT find this amusing; in fact; I was choking.
But there were others around me who had swallowed their tongues too, and they were laughing
a lot and seemed to think it was great. Finally, after gasping for air, I threw up my tongue, and a
bunch of nasty stuff came out too (delivered of demons), but then my tongue was really long
and stretched out and wagging around like a dog; it hindered my speech. (The laying on of
hands is how this deception is passed on in the false revivals like Lakeland. The laughing
uncontrollably is the Kundalini Yoga spirit from Hinduism. Swallowing the tongue only to have it
born again from beneath is a symbol of these Christians losing their most creative and powerful
force for God, to the devil. A wagging tongue like an unclean dog clearly identifies this demonic
movement.)

I was kind of staggering around as I tried to stuff it back into my mouth and regain my normal
self-control. (Praise God, I've never been "drunk in the spirit" before, but I've heard some of my
friends use that phrase, and this reminds me a little of that.) (The laying on of hands bringing the
lack of self control and drunkenness in the spirit are also from the Kundalini spirits of Yoga.
There is nothing but negative about drunkenness of any kind, spiritual or physical, in the Word.
This revival magnifies a loss of self-control, which the Word says is a fruit of the Spirit.)

Todd has said that he is impressed to lay hands on everyone who comes to the Lakeland
revival. These demons want to infect all they can, whether in the revival or outside in your
meetings. Be careful who lays hands on you.

After I regained my normal state, I was outside and I saw a MASSIVE tornado churning across
the land. It was dark and very wide. (The Toronto/Brownsville/Kansas City false revival
movement.) I was wishing I had my camera to take pictures of it (in real life, I do photography as
a side job, and I've always wanted to capture a tornado). Then a smaller tornado emerged out
of the bigger one. Although this one was much smaller, it spun much faster, moved faster, and
was more destructive. Then it became consumed with fire, and lightning bolts came out of it.
There were a bunch of us standing outside, watching it. No one was running for cover as it
came toward us. It entered the field right next to us, and the dream ended. (There is no doubt
that the spin-off tornado is the Lakeland Revival. On our site we have been calling it a spin-off of
the Toronto/Brownsville disease that has spread throughout the world.)
                               Lying Signs & Wonders Revival?

                                       David Eells - 5/27/08

Most of the reports of healings are bogus, as they were with the Brownsville revival. Flesh-
tickling feelings and the temporary releasing of the effects of spirits of infirmities are fake
healings and will not last, as with the Brownsville revival. There were a lot of claims that the
news people investigated and found that the effects were temporary and/or bogus to begin with.
In fact, they found no real miracles at all. I live within a couple miles from there and the local
papers had articles every day on the revival.

Lakeland revival is now claiming the same things and even resurrections but most are bogus. I
have read of a couple of resurrections that they seem to be taking credit for but have nothing to
do with the revival. And claims of several more that have not been substantiated. However,
some real healings and resurrections may be happening this time. The deception is being
permitted to increased with this "revival." Remember that we were warned that false prophets
would sometimes bring real signs or wonders to test the people to see if they would obey the
Word instead of follow the false Jesuses of these men.

{Dt.13:1} If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give
thee a sign or a wonder, {2} and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake
unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods (another Jesus), which thou hast not known,
and let us serve them; {3} thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto
that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth you, to know whether ye love
Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. {4} Ye shall walk after
Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and
ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. {5} And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams,
shall be put to death, because he hath spoken rebellion against Jehovah your God, who
brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to
draw thee aside out of the way which Jehovah thy God commanded thee to walk in. So
shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee.

God says that He confirms His Word with signs and wonders. However, when there is a false
word that is confirmed with signs and wonders, this is called lying signs and wonders and is for
the purpose of deceiving those who do not respect the Word.

{2 Thes.2:8} And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay
with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9}
[even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs
and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for
this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that
they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Those who do not respect the Word of truth will be deceived, if not with this revival, then with
some false teachings or their own lusts. Loving truth inoculates a person from deception.

                               A False Healing Revival in Florida?
                                         Andrew Strom 4/23/08


Many of you will have already heard about the "Healing Revival" that has purportedly broken out in
Lakeland, Florida. Today Charisma Magazine put out a piece on it entitled 'A Holy Ghost Outbreak in
Florida' - "...Charismatics are flocking to the sleepy town of Lakeland, Fla. to attend evangelist Todd
Bentley’s unconventional revival services." Is Charisma preparing to hype this one to the skies like they
did with Toronto and Rodney Howard- Browne? It seems perhaps they are.

But why am I opposed to this 'Healing Revival' so soon after it has been announced? -It is because I
already know Todd Bentley's ministry all too well, and this whole thing centers around him.

Todd Bentley actually has deep roots in the Prophetic movement, and he is one of the very few
ministers that I have ever felt I had to publicly warn people about by name. -His ministry is that bad.
False "angel" encounters of the weirdest kind, gold dust, guided visualizations of the "Third Heaven"
that are straight out of the New Age, etc. And yet there is a "power" with it that makes it all the more
dangerous.

Here is how Charisma describes his Florida meetings- "His methods are far from polished. When he
prayed for people in Lakeland, he usually began by laying his hand on their heads and then yelling,
“Bam!” Often the people fell backward to the floor. After one elderly woman fell, Bentley told the
audience: “She doesn’t know why she fell down.” The woman then laughed and said to him in the
microphone: “Because you pushed me!” He prayed for her three more times that night, and she said she
could hear better... During the past three weeks people have testified of being healed from heart
conditions, skin rashes and back problems, and many said scars disappeared... Many charismatics are
wondering if the protracted meetings will become a phenomenon similar to what happened in Rodney
Howard-Browne’s meetings in Lakeland in 1993, at the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Canada in
1994 and at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola in 1995..." [END QUOTE]

Sadly, the Charismatic movement is in such a sick state today that it would not surprise me at all if this
happens. (-I say this as a strong Spirit-filled, tongues-speaking believer myself. I am by no means
opposed to genuine miracles). Have we completely forgotten the warnings of "Lying signs and wonders"
in the Last Days?

Below is a testimony by Lynn Clark who is a Moderator at our website 'RevivalSchool.com.' This is what
she wrote about her involvement with Todd Bentley's ministry:

"I decided to check out Patricia King and Todd Bentley and, ignorant of their 'third heaven' guided
visualizations, attended a five day conference of Patricia King and then two of Todd Bentley's
conferences and began to imagine third heaven visitations - guided visualization - still not realizing that
these are actually spirits of darkness - the New Age calls them spirit guides - demons is what they are.
And so I bought Todd Bentley's teaching on third heaven visitations and brought it home to listen to. "I
was in my living room laying on the floor listening to the teaching on how to visualize the third heaven
and what to say and was getting caught up into his teaching and all of a sudden I began to shake
uncontrollably and jerk and groan, and no sooner had this taken place I became frozen stiff - I could not
move any part of my body and I knew this was a demon trying to take hold of me, and so with all the
effort I could muster I cried out, "God save me - Jesus help me" - and as soon as I cried out to the Lord
my body went limp. God spared me that night and I will be forever grateful.

"I spent much of the night in tears asking God to forgive me - and renouncing all the hands laid on me
and all the awful deception I had opened myself up to..." [END QUOTE]

ANDREW AGAIN: I myself have heard the tapes of Todd Bentley's "Third Heaven Visualization"
teachings, and I want to tell you - they are straight out of the New Age handbook. -Terrible stuff. And yet
so widely accepted by thousands of Christians today.

Do these kinds of practices (above) produce a genuine 'Healing Revival'? -These are the kinds of
questions that we need to be asking Charisma Magazine. I leave it for you to decide.

                             Testimony of a Former New-Ager
                                         Paul Gowdy (unedited)

The first time that I saw gold filling in teeth was back in the late 70’s when I was a
graduate student at a New Age center for healing through the occult arts. An old-time
new age Christian evangelist named Brother Willard Fuller came for an intensive 5 days
to teach the bible and introduce the “gifts of the spirit” which he said anyone can have if
they just asked. He was invited because of the particular ‘power’ he operated in. He did
teach on the bible beginning in genesis and did teach about Jesus. I don’t remember
much of the teaching except for the miracles that this Jesus did. I was interested in
this particular training since Jesus was my spirit guide and I wanted to know more
about him. At the end of the 5 days there was a “healing service” where he laid hands
on people and gold would manifest in their mouths. I didn’t get gold but my teeth
became a brilliant white (for about a week afterwards). I was amazed by this type of
power although my teacher, Eva, who was a shaman / healer and trans-medium
(channeled a spirit that would foretell and speak hidden “wisdom”) could do some pretty
amazing things. I hadn’t seen anything like this that so titillated my flesh. I wanted this
power that was in his name- Jesus. As a result, I bought a bible and began to study it on
my own to find out more about this Jesus that I could be exactly like.. and operate in the
same power.

At one point a crystal manifested before my eyes, floated then dropped to the ground at my feet.
My teacher said that this was a gift from my “spirit guide - Jesus” and was to be kept on me
always as a source of power. Through the amazing grace of God I met the real Jesus alone in
my apt while studying scripture and He saved a poor wretch like me. After 7 years of studying to
be a new age healer I became a Christian with the sincere desire to follow only Him. I burned all
my amulets, books tapes etc renounced and repented. The mask came off of my spirit guide
to reveal a monster demon.

The first church that I decided to attend was a Word of Faith church that was appealing because
the pastor’s wife was a “prophetess” and they were seeking after ”true miracles”- signs and
wonder. Now I could experience the “power“ legitimately because I was a Christian and it must
be from god. During my 7 years at this church, I grew in the healing arts of Christianity and got
‘drunk in the spirit’ a lot through the ministry of Joe Jordon. We grew in flakiness and twisting of
scripture and many lives became shipwrecked. The pastors divorced and the wife started
working for the psychic hotline and her sister now reads Tarot cards.

Sooo after joining a vineyard church I was hesitant when our pastor insisted that we go to
Toronto for “the Blessing” since I thought the whole laughing thing was off( because of Joe
Jordon) but you get swept in this and think that “how could so many people be deceived’? ” I
want what they are experiencing.. I don’t want to miss out on a possible move of God.. I want to
see real signs and wonders, etc, etc… ” But the sin of self/idolatry and desire for “power” and to
be like god (gen.3) is so strong that you are blinded. When I heard of the gold dust and fillings I
had a distant check but thought well it must be God if it is coming through Christians to the
church.

I began to see such similarity to my training in the new age from inner healing , body healing,
visualization, meditation, body sensations, disguised shamanistic rituals and beliefs, divination ,
etc. that I was convinced that Jesus in very soon coming back for all religions are converging
into one.

After getting out of the river we began to read the bible with new understanding The Holy Spirit
really started to highlight scripture and teach us with a new understanding and in context.

Jesus said to His disciples when they asked in Mathew 24:3-4 ” what will be the sign of Your
coming. and of the end of the age? ” Jesus’ first reply to that question was ‘take heed that no
one deceives you…’ That was His first response! Wow when you think about it that was a
warning to the men who knew Him well . Jesus must have known that even those who know
Him well could be deceived!

I know well that Satan can produce signs and wonders and much of what is being produced
now through the charismatic church is from Satan. This polluted river is doing a fine job
preparing the minds and hearts for the coming of the anti-christ. He IS coming back soon!

I know many people who are immersed (or should I say drowning in the pursuit of signs and
wonders. It is almost like drug addiction. There is a growing need for something stronger with
each experience. It does create a high. But as with drug addicts and alcoholics there is a denial.
People really don’t want to look at their own sin or the harm that it is causing but would rather
get high instead though the experience of “being at a conference where Jesus showed up with a
sign and wonder”.

I just read about a conference called “Growing in the Supernatural” sponsored by Patricia King.
There are 20 people advertized who will be speaking. I know that half of them operate ( in
ignorance) in shamanistic practices and with spirits of divination and sorcery. I guarantee that
people who attend will have a sense of euphoria and a visitation but it will not be from Almighty
God.

It is a sad thing that Jesus Christ and Him crucified- the wonder of the cross and His
resurrection is not enough! It takes faith to walk this narrow road. And many times it does not
feel good and there is suffering. We become impatient and have heard for years the rhetoric
from the false prophets about the coming revival and visitation “where people will be healed and
the dead raised”. Slowly our eyes turned from Jesus and our future hope to “I want something
now which will confirm all that the false prophets have been saying”. There is such a desire to
“experience something.. anything will do that is supernatural”. That is why contemplative prayer
which is based on eastern mysticism has become so popular in the church.

May the Lord through His mercy and grace open the eyes of our friends understanding and lead
them into the truth.

Please use my testimony any way you see fit. Maybe it will be just the bait on the fishing pole
that will draw someone out of the river. I pray for the people I know and those I don’t who are
caught up in deception….People are looking for a quick fix and solution to their everyday
problems. Being obedient and following the Lord - abiding in scripture is not appealing. Hebrews
5:14 ” But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to
distinguish good from evil”.

Throughout history our tendency is to idolatry. These leaders are idols who are worshipped and
their teachings are the gospel ( of course backed up with the false signs and wonders) Paul
warns in 1 Corinthians 10:14 to “flee from idolatry” and 10:21 “you cannot drink the cup of the
Lord and the cup of demons…”

I know how angry and defensive people get regarding their golden calf. The ramifications of
seeing are enormous. Repentance is not popular and is almost becoming obsolete. There is
nothing we can say that will open their eyes but for the work of the Holy Spirit and the grace of
God.’

                                 False Revival in Florida
                               Nichole Adams - 4/29/08 (unedited)

This is my experience at a Todd Bentley conference in 2005. It's a bit jumbled and long, but
here it is anyway!!

I went to a “Texas Ablaze” conference in Austin, TX. It was put on by Stand Firm World
Ministries, Fresh Fire Ministries, and Streams Ministries. Some of the speakers were Keith Miller
(SFWM), Todd Bentley (FFM), and Barbie Breathitt (Streams Ministries). It was hosted at one of
the local Austin churches (I forget the name of the church). It was three days long beginning on
a Friday, in February.

One of my friends had recently become engaged, and his girlfriend was visiting San Antonio to
go to this Todd Bentley conference. They had been to one before somewhere else in the USA. I
had never heard of Todd Bentley or Fresh Fire Ministries before. She compared going to a Todd
Bentley conference to having “An ice cream sundae treat in the Spirit.” Well, my friends and I
were up for that, so we registered and paid the fee and booked a hotel for the weekend. I
believe the registration fee was 35 dollars, but more if you paid at the door. It felt weird to have
to pay to go to church like you would a concert or sports game. I attended the conference with
several people from the single’s group at the church I was going to (Vineyard Church of San
Antonio.). Many other families from the Vineyard also attended, but us singles carpooled and
shared hotel rooms because we were cheap, and some of us did not have much money to pay
for our own hotel rooms, so it helped defer the cost. We were all excited about this conference
and prayed that God would do great things while we were there. I went expecting a move of
God.

“I hope he does the ‘ring of fire’!!” one of my friends commented. Ring of fire? Apparently a thing
where he makes a ring of fire in the air and you walk through it, and supposedly this is some
anointing or blessing or something. You walk through the ‘ring of fire’, and he prays for you and
you fall down. It’s awesome, they said. That it was a rush to get the Spirit like that. The way they
talked about it made me feel a little apprehensive about it. I hadn’t read anything about a ‘ring of
fire’ in the bible. (He didn’t do this signature ‘ring of fire’ at the conference I went to after all.)

The first night it was jam-packed with everyone trying to get in. Because we had paid our fee in
advance, we went to the pre-registered table. They required us to get these purple wrist-bands
that we had to wear for three days (we could not take them off, not even to shower, or we could
not get back in.). I am lucky my wrist is very small and I could slip mine on and off because they
did not put it tight enough. It would have been obnoxious to have to sleep/shower with that thing
on. They did not want anyone who had not paid to get in. They had ushers (guards?) at the
doors to the sanctuary to make sure you had your wristband. They would check your wrist after
you went to use the bathroom too, before they let you back in. I guess they were afraid of
people getting the Holy Spirit or getting healed without paying for it first?

Around the registration tables were tables piled full of things you can buy from the ministries, or
outrageous prices, too. 25 dollars for a CD, or 30 bucks for a book. They had sets to teach you
how to have experiences like Todd Bentley has (going up to the third heaven, meeting angels,
etc, etc.) From Todd Bentley’s ministry you could also buy hankies and get Todd to pray over
them, and transfer the anointing to them, so your sick relative or friend might be healed, or if
they were healthy, just get an “explosion” of an anointing of the Holy Spirit. (based on people
getting healed from Pauls’ hankies in Acts. I don’t think Paul made people pay for hankies
though). Streams Ministries had cards that excited everyone, because our church was involved
with Streams Ministries, and was doing Dream Interpretation. They had laminated cards that
you could buy for $10-25 that were ‘cheat sheets’ on things like 1) What causes what illnesses,
or 2) What numbers, colors, letters, and various animals mean in dreams. My friends bought the
illnesses card and the dream card, and I looked at them on the way home. The Illnesses card
had things like “Obesity is caused by low-self esteem.” “Low back pain is caused by familiar
spirits.” Etc. It was a chart with the illnesses on the left and the demons/spiritual conditions on
the top , with X’s to show you what caused what. Some things were caused by multiple things.
They also had other material for sale that of course, showed you how to cast out whatever
demons you had so you could get well, or how to get better self esteem so you wouldn’t be
obese. The dreams card was your basic run of the mill dream interpretation stuff, like the color
red means danger, purple means royalty, etc.

One thing I noticed is they interrupted the service a lot to advertise products at the pulpit. They
would talk for a minute about a book or CD, and then remind us that we could buy it in the foyer
for a “low, low” price. I did not see how this is doing anything but turning a house of prayer into a
house of merchandise. They did this between speakers. They encouraged people during the
breaks to go out and shop at the tables.

In the sanctuary, they had special areas roped off for ‘VIP’ people. Churches that were partners
with the ministries, or groups that had paid extra money, got to sit in these special areas up
front. Everyone else that had just paid the regular price had to sit in the back. Sometimes we
could not all sit together because there wasn’t enough room in one area, and we had not
reserved an area for our group. Apparently paying extra money for your group got your group
mentioned up front, because the first day they were like “And we’ve got guests from such-and-
such church over here” and then that church would clap to show everyone where they were.
They did not mention any groups that were not seated in the VIP sections.

At the beginning of the conference Keith Miller talked about how he felt there were going to be
“open heavens” during this conference and people were going to get new anointing and stuff
like that. I don’t remember much about Keith Miller, except that when he was ‘invoking’ the Holy
Spirit, he kept saying “psssshhh, pssssh” into the microphone. Like, “Come down Holy Spirit,
psssh, psssh, psssh. The Holy Spirit’s coming tonight, psssh, pssh. Psssh. Psssh.” It was very
weird, and I did not know that making hissing noises into the microphone like that got the Holy
Spirit to come down. It actually made me a little uncomfortable, the way he was doing it. But I
had not experienced something like that before, so I did not pay much attention to it, but it did
not seem much like praying to me. He talked a lot about angels appearing to him and such, and
how there were angels in the room. He talked a lot about ‘mantles’. How God was going to rip
off a tiny piece of His robe and float it on down to you to cover you, and you would get a new
mantle that would give you some kind of power. That prophetic mantles, and healing mantles,
etc, would be given out today, straight from God. (They tie this in with Elisha taking Elijah’s
mantle).

So Barbie from Streams Ministries also spoke. She spoke about “heavenly orbs” that people
would be seeing at conferences, and how they would capture them on camera. How these
‘heavenly orbs’ were God’s glory and angels and things like that. How they had pictures of one
that when you looked close, you would see a figure with her hands held out. That these orbs
(Angels) were here to minister to us. They showed pictures on the projector of orbs at other
conferences, some of the pictures had more orbs than others. How many orbs were there was
supposed to be in proportion to how much glory of God had come down. I was extremely
skeptical about the whole orbs thing, because it just did not sound right to me. One of my
friends caught ‘orbs’ on her digital camera ,but when we showed them to our photographer
friend back in San Antonio who could not come to the conference, told us that those orbs were
nothing but ‘lens flare’. Also while Barbie was talking, she interpreted some dreams from
pastors. She would only do it for pastors and not anyone else. The reason she gave for this was
that they work hard and we need to give something back, etc. Strangely, all the pastor’s
dreams, while each one very different, all seemed to mean that God would be blessing and
expanding their ministry and bringing them rich people to their church to help. (One guy had
some dream about diving into a well with a big fish ,and she took this to mean a ‘big fish’
businessman who would be able to finance ministries.)

When Todd Bentley finally spoke (I believe it was the 2nd day), the atmosphere in the room was
like “Finally! The guy we have been waiting for!” And you could feel the room get excited in
anticipation. He started out really energetic. There wasn’t any prayer beforehand. He was
sweating within like 3 minutes. Not that there is anything wrong with sweat, but you could see
the perspiration on his brow from the back of the room. What was weird, was that he said he
was going to preach on a psalm. So we all got out our bibles. But every time he went to try to
read the verse, he would begin to laugh, and stagger, and make weird noises. This made me
EXTREMELY uncomfortable. It seemed as though he was mocking the scripture, by laughing at
it when he began to read it. Everyone admired him for this, though, saying he was so “drunk in
the Spirit” that he could not read his bible! He would calm down, but as soon as he went over to
the pulpit where his bible was, he would immediately become so “drunk” that he could not read
nor preach, but just would stagger around laughing and snorting for a few minutes. Still acting
rather drunk, he began to preach about all the great things he’s done (with God’s help, of
course.) About how he went from having no money to having a multi-million dollar ministry, and
healing, etc, and how great it all was. Everyone thought this was a fantastic testimony on his
part, but I wondered why God would have him set aside whatever he was going to preach on to
brag about his accomplishments. He laughed, snorted, and chortled through his entire speech.
Whenever he would begin to mention something a scripture said, he would become incoherent.
Why could he not read nor recite the scriptures without breaking into a fit? But was able to
maintain enough composure to brag about all the great stuff God’s done with him. It was
seriously disturbing to me that people were eating this up. He talked a lot about how he would
go to the third heaven, and how many times he’s met angels, etc. And how you, too, can get
into a Holy-Spirit induced trance whenever you want and go to heaven, and how he’s got
teachings on how to do it. (apparently we can force the Holy Spirit to take us to heaven and
have out-of-body experiences whenever we want.) He related one tale, of a witch doctor. Who
had come to a conference of his. That night God took him out-of-body, supposedly, and into the
witch doctor’s dreams, and witnessed to him while he was dreaming. The witch doctor came
back the next day saved because of being witnessed to while he was dreaming. He also talked
about one time, he got taken up into the third heaven, and angels were running around saying
“The books of destiny, the books of destiny!” and stuffed a page from one of those books which
had a map of this one African country into his mouth, and then 3 days later the ruler of that
country called his ministry.

Eventually he quit talking about his accomplishments and moved right into the “Awesome Signs
and Wonders” part of his talk (so there was no sermon or teaching. Just Todd saying how
awesome he is, and now I guess proving it.) So he starts blowing people down in the spirit and
such. And calling people out based on sicknesses, and they would fall down and be “healed”.
But mostly of stuff you can’t see. Actually, all stuff you can’t see. Like one lady supposedly had
chronic elbow pain, and she said it was gone after she had fallen down under the power. He
had everyone who had a “metabolism” problem stand up because He felt the Lord was going to
“reverse metabolisms” and that everyone would be free from struggling with their weight, if they
would just stand up and get this blessing. TONS of people (fat, and those who thought they
were fat), stood up as he spoke ‘words of healing’ over them.

He prophesied over one lady, that she was going to get the “Esther anointing.” Apparently in the
prophetic world, women can only have one of two things, 1. A Jezebel Spirit or 2. An Esther
Anointing. Apparently the Esther anointing means God gives you favor with people to get where
you want to. (like the King had favor with Esther.) Like if you want to get promoted at a job,
having the Esther anointing with give you favor with your employer to get promoted. Things like
that. So he prophesied that this anointing would fall on her, and many good things would come
her way because of it. Getting the Esther anointing is a sure way to get ahead in the world,
apparently.

He also called a boy that had been helping collect offerings, who looked to be about 8 years old.
He prophesied over him that he would have many ministries and bring many people to God.
Then he threw the Spirit into the boy, and the boy shook as if having a seizure, and then fell
over. When the boy got up and went off the stage, Todd called the boy back up and did it again,
so the boy shook and fell down, twice. Todd also prophesied over a very young girl (about six or
seven), all good things of course, and then did the shake/fall thing with her, only he made her
come back two more times, for a total of three. Each time the girl got up crying, and was on her
way to her mother, but since Todd called her back, someone would take her hand and guide her
back to Todd. When she finally did get to her mother she hugged her very tightly. I could not tell
if she was crying because she was frightened or not. Todd eventually went through the aisles
blowing down aisles of people. He skipped my aisle. When Todd Bentley took up the offerings
(on top of the other offerings that were already taken, and the entrance fee ,and whatever
ridiculous amount of money they were profiting off their books and prayer hankies), he began to
talk about how God had given him a word that somebody in the congregation was going to feel
led by the Lord to write a check for twenty thousand dollars, and God was going to bless them
for that. And that if you felt that that word was for you, and you are the one with twenty thousand
dollars in the bank, you should get out your checkbook, because God was going to bless you by
multiplying your offering 100x. He talked about seed offerings a little, too, saying that if you gave
a seed offering, your checkbook would be bulging because God was going to bless you, and
you would be able to get a new house, and a new car, and whatever else you needed. He was
really intent on getting somebody out there to write a twenty thousand dollar check, because he
went back to it a few times during this offering speech.

Todd Bentley said that, the next night, to pack in the sick people because there would be a
healing angel there. I did not know how they planned to pack in the sick people since you had to
have a wristband to get in. He also said that he had seen a giant angel straddling the church to
protect us from evil spirits. Also he promised that he and Keith Miller would touch and bless
every single person there, no matter how long it took. And man, people were seriously
anticipating that. They looked forward to it, hoping that God would give Todd Bentley a word just
for them. I wanted a word from God, too, of course. I prayed to God that if this was really of Him,
He would knock me down and give me a word so I would know if it was. But that if it was not, I
did not want to fall down just because I was emotional or because somebody pushed me, or
because I felt I had to. I have not been baptized in the Holy Spirit, so my friend suggested that I
pray for that, and pray for my “prayer language” (tongues), to come. So I prayed that if the Holy
Spirit was there, that something would happen. I did not pray for tongues specifically, but just
‘something’ from the Holy Spirit so I would know that it was Him. (I was extremely uncomfortable
with a lot of what was going on, but my friends kept saying it was because I was not used to it,
and that I just needed to let the Holy Spirit flow.) I prayed for most of the third day through the
conference, and decided to not be so skeptical. At lunch break, one of my friends was so “drunk
in the spirit” we wondered if it was safe for him to drive. He drove, but we watched him in the
mirror and he was definitely having jerky limb movements while driving. We were glad he did not
get into an accident the way he was driving.

There was a quadriplegic boy that was deformed in a wheelchair. His mother was spoon-
feeding him in the hallway. They had come to the conference every day. You could tell by the
hopeful expression on his face he wanted to get healed, and that was why he was here. I
prayed that God might grant their request, and if it was God speaking to Todd Bentley, that He
would give him a word and heal the boy. But all of Todd Bentley’s words from the Lord were to
heal people of being fat, or tennis elbow, or having chronic bowel trouble. The quadriplegic boy
left the service in the same physical state that he had come. So did all the other people that
were wearing leg braces, or using crutches, or canes. I wondered why God wouldn’t heal them,
but heal all these other people of much more minor ailments.

Todd Bentley spoke about the “kingly anointing”. He took some obscure passage from the old
testament and talked about how the kingly anointing allows us to hand out judgment and serve
justice in the world by decreeing righteousness. And how, when we have it, we can proclaim
things and then justice will supernaturally happen. But if we don’t decree it, then the injustice is
allowed to stay. Like if someone does something wrong, we have to set forth a heavenly decree
saying “That isn’t right! It’s not right, and I will not tolerate it!” and then something will happen to
serve justice, because you put forth your decree of judgment under your kingly anointing. Like if
somebody beats you up, you can be like “It isn’t righteous! It’s wrong! I will not stand it any
longer, Lord!” , and then watch them get run over by a car. Wham, Bam, Justice served. (Ok, I
exaggerate with the car running over people. But that was the main jist of it, was that people
would get their just deserves. ) Then he led the congregation in prayer over their bellies, saying
that water would come from our bellies and bring life. Then he led a prayer for the kingly
anointing to fall on everybody so everybody could go out decreeing righteousness.

That preaching didn’t last long; pretty soon it was all about the healing. Todd Bentley asked
people to get out their cell phones and call a sick person, because he was going to speak the
healing words through all these cell phones, and so everyone would be healed all at once. That
seemed weird to me, but I was game, because my mom was really sick at the time. But I found I
could not call her because I had not brought my cell phone with me that night (which is odd
because I had brought it the other two nights, in my purse, but had not put it in my purse that
day. I had left it in the hotel room.) After he spoke the “healing words” my friend lent me her cell
phone, after she had called her mom (who was also ill) but it was too late because he’d already
spoken the ‘healing words’. I was devastated; because my mom was super sick at the time (this
was around the time of her surgery on her neck, and being diagnosed with Lyme disease.) I
cried a lot, and wondered why God would have let me forget my cell phone, and miss a chance
to have my mother healed. My friend was very comforting to me during this. People began to
share testimonies over the cell phones of people getting healed. The people my friends called
did not seem to get healed over the phone.

Todd Bentley supposedly cast out a demon that was causing a woman chronic lower back pain.
(if you have lower back pain, it is always a demon lodged in your sciatic nerve, he said. This
was supported by the illnesses card that was being sold by Streams Ministries that I mentioned
earlier.). She writhed on the floor screaming for quite a few minutes while he was casting out the
demon, then hopped up all happy and thrilled, saying her back pain was gone. It was seriously
disturbing watching this woman writhe on the floor. I suppose that makes sense though, since if
it was a demon it is natural to be disturbed at it manifesting.

So at the end of the conference, we were supposed to move our chairs out of the way and stand
in line to get the anointing from Todd Bentley and Keith Miller. The “prophets” went in the back
room to pray while everyone stacked their chairs along the walls. Then we all lined up in semi-
circles with space in-between, and waited for them to come back out. They came back out and
you were supposed to hold out your hands, and wait for them to touch you. They had men to
walk behind the lines to ‘catch’ you so you would not hurt yourself as you fell. So they were
touching people’s hands, and people would fall over. So lots of people were falling. They got to
one guy, and he would go into a seizure-like state, as he was falling, sort of crazy dancing and
squealing. They thought this was great, and it made them laugh, so they had the catchers lift
him back up so they could touch him again and laugh as he did this weird dancing/seizure thing
as he fell backwards. They did that a few times. They did not spend a lot of time with most of the
people, just touched them and moved on. I was praying during time that God would show me if
it was of Him or not. I was a little frightened at the prospect of it NOT being of Him, and possibly
opening myself up to the influence of evil spirits. So I was a little scared too, I did not want a bad
spirit to make me fall over. I had considered opting out of being touched, but then I thought what
if it IS of God and I miss my chance to get a word from God? So when they finally got to me,
Todd Bentley said “FIRE OF GOD!” as he touched my hands. But I felt nothing. Certainly not
any fire. The other guy touched my hands as they passed by. I just had a very heavy feeling,
and I began to cry. One of the prayer ladies that were following them to pray stopped by me
because she had seen that I had not fallen, and she put her hand on my forehead to pray for
me. She did not seem to understand that I wasn’t falling, because she kept praying for the Spirit
to come over me, and pushed her hand harder on my forehead. Her pushing made me plant my
feet even more firmly on the ground. She was not going to knock me over. She gave up when
she realized I was not going to fall over, and was just going to keep crying, so she moved on.

I was not the only one who did not fall over. I noticed that a few others did not either. I went and
sat by the wall to pray, and was crying a lot because I just felt horrible at this whole experience,
and was wondering where God was in all of this. The prayer pastor from my vineyard came over
to talk to me, but I did not have much to say. I could not express what I was feeling about this
whole event, and everyone just assumed that the holy spirit had touched me through the
prophets and that was why I was crying, they did not know I was crying because God did NOT
touch me through those prophets, and I did not know how to tell them that I didn’t think that God
was here. I felt uncomfortable about the whole conference, and it just reached a climax at that
point, as I saw people shaking with seizure-like things, and laughing uncontrollably, and rolling
around on the floor. I cried a lot, also, because nobody seemed to really be praying to God. In
fact not a whole lot of prayer seemed to go on during this conference, for as long as it lasted,
there were only a few times that any of the speakers prayed. The only ‘prayer’ was to call down
the Holy Spirit, or ask for angels to heal or give an anointing. They talked about the Holy Spirit a
lot, and not so much about Jesus or the Gospel. There wasn’t hardly any talk about sin, or
repentance either. Just anointing and mantles and prophecy.

Anyway, it was getting late, and people were still lying around under the influence of the Spirit,
or dancing around, etc. Because they wanted to get home and close up the church, they kicked
everybody out. Some people had to be carried out. And that was the end of that. We drove back
to San Antonio that night. For my birthday (we had a birthday party for me and one of my friends
while in Austin because our birthdays were that week), my friends had bought me Todd
Bentley’s Autobiography and his cd, “marinating”. Listening to the CD disturbed my spirit. It
seemed like trance-inducing music with Todd Bentley popping in once in awhile to try to
hypnotize you. His autobiography said some interesting things as well, but I cannot remember
all of them now, but he talks a lot about all the supernatural experiences he’s had after being
saved (some of them are really weird.). I was very disappointed leaving the conference, I did not
feel ‘refreshed’ or ‘renewed’ like everybody else was saying they did. I didn’t “fall under the
power” or receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, or anything that I had gone there expecting. I
did feel like He showed me where NOT to look for Him, though, because I felt like the whole
thing grieved God very much. I did not fully understand exactly what made me feel horrible, but I
know that my uneasiness was not just because it was unfamiliar to me. Many times during the
services it seemed like they were mocking God, though nobody took notice of it. I could not
explain to everyone why I felt so disturbed, so I mostly kept my mouth shut. Later, after God led
me to leave my church (I was having issues with my church as well), I began to realize what
was wrong with the conference, and why God did not like it, and I would remember things I had
previously forgotten about the conference that disturbed me. There were many other things that
happened at the conference that I have not mentioned here, but I cannot remember all the
details of them all.

                           Toronto/Brownsville and Beyond

                                        The Acid Cloud


This vision will be controversial to many who read it. I have also included the analysis of the
person who forwarded it to the newsgroup where I saw it; in my opinion, he has quite accurately
analyzed the vision according to the Word. If this one bothers you, don't fire back an email to
me immediately. Pray about it. Search the Word for the Lord's voice. Then, if you still feel the
need, feel free.



VISION OF THE ACID CLOUD - 1994

The following very significant vision was given to a man in England way back in September
1994. Events have so far proved it very accurate indeed. (Source: Integrity Teaching Services,
10 Hyde Park Close, Headingly, Leeds LS6 1SF, United Kingdom).

THE ACID CLOUD - A VISION - RICHARD SMITH.

This vision emerged with an unusually vivid degree of clarity on Thursday morning the 29th
September, 1994, just before I was about to go out and do some studying.

Following a period of pouring out my distressed feelings about the condition of the Church to
Jesus, who is our heavenly Advocate, I saw ahead of me a large billowing black cloud which
carried lots of soot and other pollutants. Its sulfurous stench revealed that here was no natural
cloud, but rather it was the type of acid cloud which arises from the explosion of some chemical
plant or oil installation. Blown by its own momentum, the acid cloud was rapidly heading towards
a low waterless desert plain which lay beneath some rocky mountains. Filling the plain were all
types of people whom I under- stood represented the Christian population of England. Most
were indigenous white Anglo-Saxons, but there were members of various ethnic minorities as
well. These stood for the immigrant population in England.

FOUR GROUPS. On closer inspection, I could see that this vast assembly was divided into four
main groups. The first of these was the one that was nearest to the cloud and was obviously
coming under its influence. This particular group can be known as the intoxicated. Behind them,
closely intermingled together, were the second and third groups - these can be known as the
fearful and the angry. Still further behind at a little distance was a smaller group who will be
known as the prepared. However, one fact was obvious - the acid cloud was going to cover all
four groups regardless of whether they wanted it to or not. It was at this point that I perceived
that the cloud was blowing in from the Westerly direction.

In response to this cloud, the first group was laughing, dancing and singing. A few of their
members were lying prostrate and making all kinds of animal noises. Some were so deliriously
happy that they actually formed a dance line, which - while they were dancing the conga -
snaked its way into the cloud. With a start, I realized their mistake. Already intoxicated by
invisible fumes were emanating from the front of the cloud. This group was wrongly assuming
that the polluted cloud was a refreshing rain cloud that represented God's presence. They failed
to see what its true nature was.

The second group of Christians saw what the cloud consisted of, but then panicked. Some ran
away and tripped over, knocking themselves out, while others stood there, frozen to the ground,
looking in two directions at once. Like the first group, they too were swallowed up by the cloud.
Their fundamental mistake was to panic in the face of evil.

Whilst this was happening, the third group of Christians (who also saw that the cloud was a
menace) stood before it shaking their fists and making all kinds of angry noises. Some were
kicking at it with their feet. Like the previous two groups, they were clad in light, flimsy summer
clothing. Their mistake was to try to fight the cloud in their own strength. Consequently, they too
were swallowed up. Moreover, as the cloud ate up each of the three previous groups, there was
silence, followed by ear piercing howls of pain, succeeded by more silence - which was broken
only by the odd intermittent moan or throaty gurgle which very much reminded me of a First
World War gas attack.

THE PREPARED. However, the fourth group of Christians were getting ready to deal with the
threat posed by this cloud. With urgent haste, they were donning anti-chemical suits of clothing,
clamping on gas masks and putting on strong safety helmets which had a bright light, like a
miner's lamp, attached to it. Above the lamp (which represent- ed the light of the Holy Spirit)
near the top of the helmet was a bright red spot. At once I discerned that this symbolized the
Blood of Jesus Christ. It was His mark on this group.

Strapped to their sides were white first-aid cases with red crosses on them. These carried a
wide assortment of medical aids to help those Christians who had been burned by the cloud. In
their right hands they carried strong transparent riot shields, while in their left hands they carried
various types of weaponry. These were obviously designed to fight the various kinds of
principalities which inhabit the cloud.

Suddenly, at God's own timing, they formed a line, linked shields and marched at an orderly
pace into the cloud. They were obviously directed by the Lord to do this. It was also clear that
they were called to work very closely together. (Note; later, Richard was shown that the strategy
of this group would be to advance at the Lord's command, fight strenuously, rescue and minister
to some of the wounded; then stand their ground awaiting the next call for advance).

BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT. Somewhat taken aback by the implications of this vision, I then
used my mind to apply 1 Jn. 4:1-3. In blunt Yorkshire tones, I said "Do you, the spirit who has
brought this picture so vividly to mind, boldly confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh"?
"Yes, I boldly confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh". "Fine, what do you say about the
Blood He shed on the Cross?" "Through the Blood there is forgiveness of sin. It protected the
Israelites from My judgment on the Egyptian firstborn". "Good. Now let's take counsel together
and have some intelligent discuss- ion. Without repeating all the details that were revealed
earlier, would you please, Abba Father, send your Holy Spirit to complete the interpretation of
this vision?"

THE INTERPRETATION. Still utterly in control of what was happening, I then slowly took stock
of what the Holy Spirit was saying. While creating a piercing clarity of mind that served to
heighten my intellectual faculties, the Holy Spirit gave me the following interpretation:

1) The acid cloud not only represented what is currently known as the Toronto Phenomenon, it
also represents all that will come out of that occurrence. The Toronto Phenomenon is so to
speak only the front edge of the cloud. It is paving a way for even more extreme manifestations
of the evil one. In short, "Toronto" can be seen as a beginning rather than an end.

2) Being blown by its own momentum indicates that within the cloud there is only what can be
described as a hostile alien spirit. It is the head spirit of many other spirits which inhabit the
cloud. More- over, this alien spirit has been given permission by God to try the loyalties of
Christians in this country. Through a process of sharp division, which will cause many wounds, it
will become really clear who in the Church is standing by Jesus and who is not. However, some
of those who belong to the first three groups will be given a few further chances to repent. For a
little while, the opportunity to get back into a right relationship with God will exist.

3) The flat waterless desert plain represents English Society which is bereft of the Holy Spirit. It
may also have some bearing on other places within the British Isles - even though it is England
which is primarily represented.

Another point to mention is that if the Lord's people had been on top of the Rocky Mountains,
(which represents nearness to God's presence) then they would have escaped the influence of
the acid cloud. Their position on the desert plain has left them desperately vulnerable to the
corrosive effects. In other words, being in the place where Jesus Christ doesn't want them to be
has stripped the Church of many spiritual defenses. Far from putting on the armor of God, it is
wearing loose, light summer clothes. Furthermore, being in the desert place has caused many
Christians to seek to assuage their thirst from the wrong spiritual sources. That is one reason
why the first group greeted the cloud with such enthusiasm. It seemed to offer an easy way to
meet their needs.

4) As was stated earlier, the people in the plain were Christians - mainly charismatic/evangelical
Christians, but there were also a fair number of representatives from the established
denominations as well. They were conspicuous for their clerical collars, long robes and self-
important expressions on their faces. It was clear that this cloud is going to have a very
widespread effect.

5) As was clearly seen in the vision itself, the four groups represented four possible reactions to
the acid cloud. Only the last was appropriate to the situation in hand.

In particular, those who stood frozen to the ground looking in two directions, stood for Christian
leaders who were trying to find expedient diplomatic solutions to what was an impossible
situation. Not surprisingly, most of their supporters were quickly deserting them - leaving them
alone to be swallowed up by the cloud. At this juncture, I believe the Holy Spirit is clearly saying
"beware of man-made expedients in dealing with the Toronto Phenomenon". What the Church
faces here is primarily a spiritual, not cultural or psychological problem. Spiritual weapons will
be needed to deal with it.

6) The role of the fourth group, which was the only one really doing God's will, was two-fold.
Firstly it has to use the spiritual weapons given it to attack the principalities which were in the
cloud. Secondly, it had to help restore Christians from the previous three groups who had been
injured by it. Regrettably, some Christians they will have to bypass, because they will either
refuse treatment or be in such a wild state that it will be impossible to deal with them.

By no means will all Christians survive the passing of the cloud. Some will forsake their faith,
while others will suffer from perm- anent physical and mental breakdowns. A few will even lose
their very lives there.

I began to see that the acid cloud was also the cloud of God's judgment that will have to pass
over the Church until evil is forcibly removed from it. Only after the acid cloud has done its work
will the Church be pure enough to receive the cloud of God's presence. This cloud will in turn
bring further cleansing and much-needed revival. However, the time for this second cloud to
pass over is not yet. Any hopes of immediate revival are therefore premature. This means that
taken as a whole, the Toronto Phenomenon does not represent a time of refreshing, rather it
represents what is perhaps the first installment of a VERY severe judgment on the churches in
this country.

In a very real sense, the mass of God's people are being handed over to Satan for the
destruction of the flesh. Only those who are faithful to the Lord in all things will be exempt from
this judgment - even though they may be distressed by its consequences. For members of the
fourth group, there is the challenge to stand together and not act as a group of disparate
individuals.

In closing, I believe the Holy Spirit is challenging you who read this document to decide which
groups you belong to - is it to be the intoxicated, the fearful, the angry or the prepared? Great
evil is coming upon many churches in this country - there exists only a little time to make this
decision.

           MOST "CONTAGIOUS" ANOINTING - Florida - WARNING!
                                    Andrew Strom - 5/09/08

Todd Bentley has declared that his Florida anointing is the most "contagious" that he
has ever imparted to people. (In other words, the most easily transferable). And indeed
this seems to be the case. It is spreading rapidly throughout the world.

But what exactly is this anointing? One observer of the Florida revival notes: "Todd
Bentley constantly manifests his "anointing" by shaking his head back and forth, and by
his body physically shaking. These manifestations also happen frequently in those who
he imparts to. He will even wave his arms over the audience, shouting, "Fire! Fire! Fire!"
and then people in the audience will start manifesting. Some appear to be convulsing,
and some even as if they are being thrashed by a spirit."

In a CBN News interview, Todd stated: "Our focus here in Florida every night is I lay
hands on every single person who comes - whether it's 5,000, 10,000 - And I'm praying
every night, 'God, give it away, give it away, give it away.' And that's the focus here:
Impartation."

And indeed there are more and more reports of this anointing being transmitted from
Florida to other states and nations across the globe.

As we have already seen, a report from England tells of a preacher who brought Todd's
anointing back from Florida and now it is manifesting in his UK meetings: "Fire, a
burning sensation, was felt all over people's bodies... There were outbursts of joy,
drunkenness and spontaneous healings throughout the meeting."

A man from Clearwater, Florida says that a number of people from his fellowship have
attended the revival and then brought the 'anointing' back with them. Here is what he
personally saw:

"These are the effects that I have witnessed on people who have attended this
movement and either have had hands laid on them or claim to have been imparted with
"the spirit":

They come back with this kind of childlike drunken stupor.
Descriptions of a burning sensation either in their veins, heads or stomachs.
Descriptions of being washed back and forth like the waves in the ocean;
Dancing about like drunk...
Inappropriate yelling and screaming like they're at a football game;
Young men whistling over and over and holding their heads and claiming that they "feel
the Holy Spirit about to split them in two";
One young man's back two teeth turned completely to some metallic finish.
People with their eyes rolled in the back of their heads and weaving around like they're
lost.
Women just gyrating and pulsating like they're being ravaged from behind from some
unseen force.
Drunken uncontrollable laughter in the middle of a solemn prayer time…
People being "slain in the spirit"... just falling down and being unable to move (like
something's holding them down)..."

Another eyewitness from the USA writes:

"A friend of mine invited me to a church where the ministry team brought back a "Fire"
from the Lakeland revival… The pastor's wife was moderating, but she could not
complete her sentences because she was 'drunk in the Spirit.' She imitated the type of
sounds I read in your blog. I saw people breaking out into uncontrollable laughter. I
came with my Bible to receive a word… There was no teaching or preaching. Just
testimonies. They talked about their experience in Lakeland... Where was the word? I
did not find any. I also heard a sound BAM and then I saw someone being slain in the
spirit."

A Spirit-filled pastor that I know from the UK who has been following Todd Bentley's
ministry closely for some years wrote to me about what he himself has observed since
the year 2000:

"My difficulty with Todd Bentley's ministry is not whether he has recently covered
himself with tattoos or pierced himself silly, but the SOURCE of his power. He keeps
changing his position on this. Sometimes he says it's the Holy Spirit and a lot of the time
it's his angels…

"Many have said that they believe that Florida is a 'mixture'. Personally, I do not believe
'mixture' is involved. I believe these
deceiving spirits have hi-jacked Todd's ministry… Either the healings are of God or they
are not. Which is it?

"People can be healed in spiritualist churches. I have witnessed, close-up, first hand,
people being instantly healed by mediums and faith healers. I have also seen people
healed by the power of the Holy Spirit. To begin with there is no discernible difference.
However the counterfeit healings soon begin to either go wrong or something far worse
comes upon the person.

"When God heals someone - He adds 'no sorrow.'

"I know Todd started off OK - I was there in his early meetings… In September 2000 I
stood in front of Todd and gave him the warning that God gave me for him. "Beware, the
leaven of the Pharisees, lest an angelic leaven enters your ministry."

"One month later, according to Todd's own account, at a meeting in Grants Pass
Oregon, Cal Pierce walked in with Branham's 'Healing Revival' angel in tow, Todd saw
and accepted this spirit without reservation. His 'angels' have been with him ever since.

"I have written to Todd on numerous occasions and reminded him of God's warning,
alas to no avail.

"When Todd Bentley conducted a healing meeting in a large charismatic church here in
England in 2005, he laid hands on
many people who were apparently healed. I know of at least one instance where a
pastor's wife with cancer was prayed for by Todd. Soon afterwards she heard voices in
her head telling her to 'drown herself just like her father did'. The poor woman ended up
in a mental hospital, I believe she still has the cancer.

"No-one is following up or keeping records of what happens to people who have hands
laid on them by Todd or others like him.

"I have kept records as far as I can, concerning this particular church. Over a relatively
short period, there has been a dramatic increase in premature deaths, cancers,
marriage break-ups, sickness and disease amongst the congregation where the
leadership have allowed this type of ministry into their church. Many people left the
church in fear.

"These are the consequences of following this type of 'ministry' which no-one is either
aware of, or wants to address. I know, I have visited the people in hospital and attended
one of the funerals…"

Meanwhile we find a number of prominent leaders beginning to declare that this will be
one of the greatest revival movements in history. Some even see it as the beginning of
a "new awakening".

Bob Jones declared that "This move will be a global move, traveling with signs and
wonders all over the world! The third wave is here!"

As this 'anointing' spreads worldwide, I believe there are some serious questions that
we need to ask ourselves:

Isn't it possible, with all the dubious 'anointings' and angels and manifestations
associated with Bentley's ministry, that what we are really seeing is a giant 'counterfeit'
revival? Isn't it possible that if it continues to grow at the present rate, that it may literally
become one of the great "delusions" of the Last Days - a great deception that has the
power to actually deceive, if possible, the very elect?

These are very serious questions - but I believe they must be asked - because this
'anointing' is already beginning to circle the globe.

If you have been to a meeting where someone has brought the "fire" back from Florida,
please write and tell me what you saw. I am collecting accounts from people about this.

Send any emails or feedback toprophetic@revivalschool.com

Our website: www.revivalschool.com

God bless you all.
David Wilkerson on Weird Manifestations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IrpW6Xctg8Q




               Revival Spirits from Eastern Religions
                                         David Eells
                       (Click here for Swedish translation of this page)

Hinduism's Kundalini Yoga
Kundalini Yoga adherents are recognizing the manifestations of Toronto/Brownsville/Lakeland
"Revivals" as those of the Kundalini serpent rising through the chakras to the mind in these
people. This is none other than possession by the New Age Eastern spirits. Bible respecters
know that these manifestations are not the experiences or demonstrations of our spiritual
forefathers. In the chart below the “Revival" manifestations on the left are taken from
observations and testimonies of the false revivals. The Kundalini Yoga manifestations on the
right are taken directly from a Kundalini website and www.gospelassemblyfree.com and
users.stargate.net/~ejt

        Toronto/Brownsville/Lakeland                          Kundalini Yoga
                Manifestations                                 Manifestations

  Uncontrollable laughter                       Laughing and weeping are as unintentional
                                                and uncontrollable as hiccoughs

  Jerking, tremors, shaking                     Jerking, tremors, shaking

  Involuntary body movements                    Postures or moving one's body in unusual
                                                ways

  Spontaneous trance states                     Spontaneous trance states

  Making animal noises, roaring, barking,       Spontaneous vocalizations
  mooing

  Muscle twitches or spasms                     Muscle twitches or spasms

  Guidance through inner voice falsely          Guidance through inner voices, visions,
  thought to be God. False visions and
   dreams                                               dreams

   Being "drunk in the spirit"                          Mental confusion, difficulty concentrating

   Feeling rushes, heat, electricity                    Energy rushes, electricity circulating in the
                                                        body

   Many fleshly sensations                              Vibrating, tingling sensations

   Supernatural smelling of scents                      Experiencing the smell of flowers, incense

   Out-of-body experiences                              Out-of-body experiences

   How one receives this "blessing"                     How one receives Kundalini Awakening
   Impartation through the laying on of hands           Through the laying on of hands during
                                                        "Shakti-pat" initiation

   Who can administer this "blessing"?                  Who can give Shakti-pat?
   Anyone who has received the false                    Anyone who has received the ability from
   anointing                                            the Guru or one of his disciples


These Kundalini spirits and other spirits of eastern religions have sought to enter many revivals.
In some cases the discernment of the leaders saved them. Jessie Penn-Lewis gives a report of
this spirit in the Wales revival:

"The counterfeit of the Presence of God is mainly felt upon the body, and by the physical senses, in
conscious 'fire,' 'thrills,' etc. The counterfeit of the 'Presence' in the atmosphere is felt by the senses of
the body, as 'breath,' 'wind,' etc., whilst the mind is passive or inactive. The person affected by this
counterfeit will be moved almost automatically to actions he would not perform of his own will, and with
all his faculties in operation. He may not even remember what he has done under the 'power' of this
'presence.'" Jessie-Penn Lewis, War On the Saints, page. 153

"But another man had the same impulse, and fell down groaning and roaring, beating the floor with his
hands and feet, and the demon entered into him as the angel of light, and got him to think that his
conduct was of the Holy Ghost, and it became a regular habit in the meetings he attended. . ." War on
the Saints pg. 150

"Nothing supernatural should be felt by the senses, but by the spirit. . .Counterfeits of today are generally
wrought upon the soulish - or sense life - of believers who have not learnt to distinguish between soul
and spirit." Jessie Penn Lewis, The Spiritual Warfare, pgs. 16-17
Buddhism’s "Emma-O" - Lord of Hell

Excerpts from pjmiller.wordpress.com

The news about (Bob) Jones was reported in the Olathe Daily News paper, 11/31/91. It
contained that Jones admitted to sexual misconduct. He was removed from “ministry” to
undergo a process of “restoration”. This news was also published in a book called“What
Happened To The Fire” by Lee Grady (1994). On page 103 it states, “About a year later, after
the church had become affiliated with John Wimber’s Vineyard network of churches, Jones
admitted to a moral failure and was removed from his leadership position. Later, Mike Bickle
stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. He admitted that his church’s emphasis
on prophecy and mystical experiences had been unhealthy and destructive.” Then, in another
review of the Kansas City Prophets, Bill Alnor of the Christian Sentinal reported the following:
“Jones, who was using his spiritual authority to induce women to disrobe for him, was
removed from that church.” I have contacted Bill personally and he will be forwarding me a
copy of the investigative internal report that was published directly by the leadership team at the
church where this incident transpired. TheApologetics Index, which is a ministry that researches
resources on cults, sects and other religious movements, doctrines and practices, also reported
on the matter. They state the following, that Bob Jones “was removed from the Vineyard
Anaheim because of sexual improprieties, which consisted of encouraging women to
undress in his office so they could stand ‘naked before the Lord’ in order to receive a
‘word.’” In addition to this, several cult watch organizations have put him (Bob Jones) on watch
for the same thing. Those are my sources concerning the sexual misconduct issue…

And this is the man who Todd Bentley is listening to and who asks him about, and promotes
this Angel by the name of Emma.

While researching this revival today, and the programs being aired at GODTV, it was noted by
at least 2 people who watched a recent program that this ‘Angel’ was also being referred to
by Bentley as not only ‘Emma’ but ‘Emma-O’ on occasion. Could that be a slip of the tongue
on his part, or a clue to who this really is?

From Answers.com: "Emma-O," derived from the Sanskrit Yama (see Yama), is the Japanese
Buddhist Lord of Jigoku, or Hell (see Jigoku). Emma judges souls and places them in hells
appropriate to their crimes. In this context there are a total of eight hells. These have been
described by people who were for one reason or another released from punishment. The hells
are a popular subject for Japanese scrolls. Emma’s primary enemy is Jizô (see Jizô), always a
supporter of the dead souls against Emma and usually the victor over his dark adversary. As
Jizô’s popularity has grown and Emma’s diminished, Emma has become a demon.

David's note: The tattoos of these demons are here (pdf).

Regardless, if you believe there could be a connection between Bob Jones’ angel, Emma, (and
Todd Bentley’s) with this false god or demon in mythology, is neither here nor there. What both
these men are communicating with is a demon disguised as an Angel of God. There is not ONE
iota of doubt in my mind that this is true. I’ve prayed and wept many tears before the Lord
concerning this. Do not be deceived, friends; it is what it is. Ask yourself, would this Angel
‘Emma’ have helped ‘birth’ (as Jones claims) such a movement as the KCP’s which not only
introduced the false notion that prophets ‘only have to be correct part of the time,’ and the other
false teachings, but also produced sexual scandals within the movement?..


Let's begin with Todd’s own words:

“Now let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me
about this angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: 'Todd, have you ever seen the
angel by the name of Emma?' He asked me as if he expected that this angel was
appearing to me. Surprised, I said, 'Bob, who is Emma?' He told me that Emma was
the angel that helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas
City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as
it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was in a service in
Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and
another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord
said, 'Here’s Emma.' I’m not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was
almost like Kathryn Kuhlman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and
looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young-
about 22 years old-but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom,
virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life.

"She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags
and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the
church, she began putting gold dust. The Lord answered: 'She is releasing the gold,
which is both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that I am bringing into
this church. I want you to prophecy that Emma showed up in this service-the
same angel that appeared in Kansas city-as a sign that I am endorsing and
releasing a prophetic spirit in the church' on people. 'God, what is happening?'” I
asked. (courtesy of endtimes prophectic words)

A further portion of the quote from Todd Bentley on Emma:

"Within three weeks of that visitation, (from 'Emma') the church had given me the biggest
offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands!…
During this visitation the pastor’s wife (it was an AOG church) got totally whacked by the Holy
Ghost - she began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful
prophetic spirit came on her. Also, as this prophetic anointing came on her, she started getting
phone numbers of complete strangers and calling them up on the telephone and
prophesying over them… Then angels started showing up in the church.”

Now ask yourself, is that REALLY evidence of the God of the Bible?

I also know we were warned more than once to beware of false prophets: “But there were
false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you,
who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them,
and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious
ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through
covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment
now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not” 2 Peter 2:1-3

                     Mother Emma, Imma, Mary Connection


                                       by David Eells

Todd Bentley reported that Bob Jones told him that, Emma

“was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out” among
the Kansas City prophets; that she “birthed” that movement. She appeared to Todd as
young and beautiful and the picture of a Proverbs 31 woman gliding inches above the
floor. This sounds very much like the Mary that many worship today. A Catholic brother
who came to us for counsel had been infected by the Kundalini spirit through a sexual
relationship with a woman who was infected. At this time he believed he was being
personally shepherded, protected and warned by the virgin Mary.

Emma or Imma appears to be the mother goddess among eastern spirits in different
cultures in the Bible and now. She was called the Queen of Heaven, Astarte, Asherah,
Ashtoreth, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite, and these all lead back to Semarimis, the false virgin
who conceived the false son of god, Tammuz, at Babel. These “mothers of god” were all
joined in Catholicism’s & Orthodox's Mary. In Kabbalah teachings, Imma, meaning
“mother,” appears to be birthing the god consciousness of Kundalini who is called Abba,
or father. This god consciousness manifests through the same parts of the body that the
fathering Kundalini serpent rises through -- from the navel to the head.

The following paragraphs are taken from this page. Basics in Kabbalah and Chassidut:
The Stages of the Creative Process from God's Infinite Light to Our Physical World. The
parenthesized italics notes are products of my search for definitions from this page and
others along with comparing them to the same experiences in other religions.

                                          Imma
                                         "Mother"

   “Imma is the general partzuf (the will to receive that enables one to receive and
   ultimately give the god consciousness - Kundalini) which develops in the world of
   Atzilut (god consciousness manifested in one) from the sefirah of binah
   ("understanding"). In Atzilut (god consciousness), as in the Divine soul of Israel, it is
   the second "conscious" power, the power of the mind to grasp, develop and
   integrate an idea (a seminal insight which Imma (Mother) receives from Abba
   (Father)). It is the inner spiritual power to "hear," meditate upon and contemplate a
   truth until it becomes fully internalized in one's consciousness. …

   The general partzuf Imma "enclothes" the "left arm" of the partzuf Arich Anpin, the
   particular partzuf Imma Ila'ah extending from the "chin" of Arich Anpin to the "chest"
   of Arich Anpin and the particular partzuf Tevunah extending from the "chest" to the
   "naval." …

   We are taught in Kabbalah that the two higher partzufim of Abba and Imma, Abba
   Ila'ah and Imma Ila'ah, unite to become one. So do the two lower partzufim of Abba
   and Imma, Yisrael Saba and Tevunah.

It is amazing that the emailed experience of the Catholic man came to us at the same time as
this article above was sent to us. God is helping us to see that this false revival phenomenon is
already all over the world being described in different terminology to fit the religion. This appears
to be one facet of the devil's plan to rebuild a Babel one world order religion, joining the
Catholic, Orthodox and Jewish faiths with the "spirit-filled Christian" faiths through the eastern
Mariolatry spirits who have worked through the ages. Just as Mary was not the mother of God
but the mother of the flesh that Jesus came in, so this Emma/Imma is a mother of flesh for a
false Kundalini father to manifest in. The Son of God came from heaven to be manifested in the
Son of man born through the real Mary. {Rom.1:3} concerning his Son, who was born of the
seed of David according to the flesh, {4} who was declared [to be] the Son of God with
power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead. {Jn.3:6}
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Also, the Lakeland/Bentley revival is said to be a healing revival. I heard of, but never saw,
healings in the Brownsville revival, even though I went several times and live two miles from
there. The ministers walked around the sick to pray for those who wanted a fleshly
manifestation. The papers in this city (Pensacola) sought to verify these healings after the fact
and found that the people had reverted back to their sicknesses or it was a ruse to begin with. If
the present revival is now manifesting healings it is as the spiritists and psychics are
manifesting. The Mariolatry spirits are known for manifesting these kinds of healings, the
overwhelming majority of which are bogus and don’t last. The Catholic Church only claims about
40 as miracles out of the millions who have gone to the Mariolatry shrines. Often the person
who seeks healing from Mary receives worse damage than they had. On the other hand I have
seen Catholic Charismatics (Spirit-filled) receive true healings who emphasize the Bible and
Jesus as the savior and healer and sometimes the only mediator between God and man.

                          Please Ask God About the Revival
                                           Anonymous.

I emailed you for your discernment (of the revival) and the email did not go through. Then I
asked God and I had a dream. I saw a lit cigarette on my fingers and smoke around me. I
looked at that cigarette in shock and said, "What am I, as a child of God, doing with this
cigarette in my hand?" At that very moment the fire on the cigarette was put out and I threw that
cigarette away. That was when I knew that this revival was a deception. Only after seeing this
on that morning, I sent you that email to ask for your discernment and the Lord showed you that
it was connected to Toronto/Brownsville revival. I had no knowledge of this. So God gives His
true children discernment and protection from the devil. (Note from David: Cigarette smoking
represents partaking of unclean spirits. "Breath" in Hebrew is the word for spirit. This revival is
an invasion of dirty, unclean breath or spirits.)

                                            ************

   Spirits from the East Burn with "Fire" the Fruit of God's People, and
                                 America
                                           David Eells

Friends, I have had much experience with the after-effects of Toronto, Brownsville and many
spin-offs like Lakeland. I went to the Brownsville Revival when it first started, which was only
two miles from my house. Through discerning of spirits I saw demons being imparted and
demons in the evangelist. I love God's people who have fallen into this apostasy. I have cast out
many spirits from these victims and, sadly, not always with lasting success. Some were ignorant
and innocent who kept their deliverance but some were given over to this because of sin and
rebellion against the Word. {2 Thes.2:9} [even he], whose coming is according to the
working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of
unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error,
that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the
truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God's people are being destroyed by spirits of Eastern religions

I was told many years ago by the Lord, "I will move the Sauls out of the way to make room for
the Davids." I learned that He wasn't speaking of a physical death of these leaders so much as
a spiritual death such as happened to the Pharisees and Sadducees before Jesus came to the
throne of David over spiritual Israel. Saul and his followers are dying on Mt. Gilboa at the hands
of their old man, symbolized by the Philistines. This is happening to make room for the anointing
of David in a modern-day first-fruits company in whom Jesus lives.

When I was thinking on the spirits of eastern religions that are invading the U.S. and Christianity
through false leaders and their false revivals, the Lord said to me, "Look up the scriptures that
speak of the "east wind." At that time I was reminded that the Hebrew Word translated "wind"
in scriptures is "ruwach," which I found to be translated three times more often as "spirit" and
"spirits." So when we translate the same Hebrew word as "spirits," a whole new understanding
comes forth. I found a clear connection in the verses that use this word when preceded with the
word "EAST." In them the EAST SPIRITS causes the FIRE to burn up the apostate people of
God and their fruit. Fire! Fire! Fire! Or More! More! More! Or Bam! are revival mantras to call up
the eastern spirits or demons. {Lev.10:1} And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took
each of them his censer, and put fire therein, and laid incense thereon, and offered
strange fire before Jehovah, which he had not commanded them. {2} And there came
forth fire from before Jehovah, and devoured them, and they died before Jehovah. Also
seen in these EAST SPIRITS scriptures is a cause for the destruction of America.

{Hos.12:1} Ephraim (the Church) feedeth on wind, and followeth after the east wind
(spirits): he continually multiplieth lies and desolation; and they make a covenant with
Assyria (the beast kingdom), and oil (anointing) is carried into Egypt (the world). In type,
Ephraim here represents the Church because he was the second son of Joseph, who was the
clearest type of Jesus in the Bible. He was sold into bondage by his brothers, lied about by the
harlot, and was thrown into prison. Here, like Jesus, he preached to the spirits in prison, some
of whom went up and some down. Then he was resurrected out of prison to be Lord over all.
Ephraim, the Church, received the double-portion inheritance from Jesus that should have been
given to firstborn, Manasseh, who represents Israel, which refused the inheritance (Gen.48:17-
19). God said, “Israel is my son, my firstborn” (Ex.4:22). Ephraim was called a “multitude
(Hebrew: fullness) of nations” because they represented the Church of all nations. The Church
is the Father’s second born (born again) son who received the double-portion that Israel, the
firstborn, should have received but rejected. Now we see in this verse that the church is feeding
on these eastern spirits and making a covenant with their fleshly beast as the true anointing is
swallowed up in bondage to the world.

We also see in the text that the church in general will be painfully delivered of a mature man-
child but will not individually bear the fruit of Christ to be a part of that first-fruits company.
{Hos.13:12} The iniquity of Ephraim (the Church) is bound up; his sin is laid up in store.
{13} The sorrows of a travailing woman (the Church) shall come upon him (to birth the
man-child company of Revelation 12): he is an unwise son; for it is time he should not tarry
in the place of the breaking forth of children. (They waited too late to bear the personal fruit
of Christ to be in this first-fruits company.) {14} I will ransom them from the power of Sheol; I
will redeem them from death: O death, where are thy plagues? O Sheol, where is thy
destruction? (God will save the repentant among them through tribulation.) repentance shall
be hid from mine eyes. (How is this destruction coming to them?) {15} Though he be fruitful
among his brethren, an east wind (spirits) shall come, the breath of Jehovah coming up
from the wilderness; and his spring shall become dry, and his fountain (of living waters;
the Word) shall be dried up: he shall make spoil of the treasure of all goodly vessels. (In
the "revivals" it is plainly seen that the Word, which is their source of life, is no longer spoken.)
{16} Samaria shall bear her guilt; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by
the sword; their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be
ripped up. (Samaria was the northern 10 tribes who worshipped the golden calf and after the
captivity the beast brought in non-Israelites to take God's covenant there.)

{Jer.18:15} For my people have forgotten me, they have burned incense to false [gods];
and they have been made to stumble in their ways, in the ancient paths (They are
departing from the paths laid down by the scriptures), to walk in bypaths, in a way not cast
up; {16} to make their land an astonishment, and a perpetual hissing; every one that
passeth thereby shall be astonished, and shake his head. (The eastern spirits are driving
the apostates from their spiritual land of promise into desolation. This is proven by the fruits of
these revivals.) {17} I will scatter them as with an east wind(spirits) before the enemy
(They are being scattered before the demons of eastern religions.); I will show them the back,
and not the face, in the day of their calamity. {18} Then said they, Come, and let us devise
devices against Jeremiah (These apostates will, like their spiritual forefathers the Pharisees,
attack the true prophet and type of the man-child.); for the law shall not perish from the
priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet (The reason for their
hatred of them is the Word they speak and live.).

{Isa.27:7} Hath he smitten them (Israel) as he smote those that smote them? or are they
slain according to the slaughter of them that were slain by them? {8} In measure, when
thou sendest them away, thou dost contend with them; he hath removed [them] with his
rough blast in the day of the east wind (spirits). (This represents the removing of some
apostates through the eastern spirits while contending with a measure of others to separate a
true church from their midst.) {9} Therefore by this shall the iniquity of Jacob be forgiven,
and this is all the fruit of taking away his sin: that he maketh all the stones of the altar as
chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, [so that] the Asherim (Mariolatry) and the sun-
images (false Jesus') shall rise no more. (The Lord will cleanse His people of "another
Jesus" and his mother, as the religious kingdoms of men are deserted by the righteous.) {10}
For the fortified city is solitary, a habitation deserted and forsaken, like the wilderness
(Rev.12:6;17:3 = seven year tribulation): there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie
down, and consume the branches thereof. {11} When the boughs thereof are withered,
they shall be broken off; the women (apostate sects) shall come, and set them on fire (The
false fire of the apostates' golden calf will consume those who are "broken off" of the olive tree
of New Testament spiritual Israel in tribulation [Rom.11:20-22]); for it is a people of no
understanding: therefore he that made them will not have compassion upon them, and
he that formed them will show them no favor.

{Isa.2:6} For thou hast forsaken thy people the house of Jacob, because they are filled
[with customs] from the east, and [are] soothsayers like the Philistines, and they strike
hands with the children of foreigners. (One of the eastern spirits imparted in these revivals
and those who have come from them is divination or false prophecy.)

{Eze.19:10} Thy mother (Israel, a type of the church) was like a vine, in thy blood, planted
by the waters: it was fruitful and full of branches by reason of many waters. {11} And it
had strong rods for the sceptres of them that bare rule, and their stature was exalted
among the thick boughs, and they were seen in their height with the multitude of their
branches. (The once glorious church ruled over her enemies but now there is a great falling
away to the enemy.) {12} But it was plucked up in fury, it was cast down to the ground,
and the east wind (spirits) dried up its fruit: its strong rods were broken off and withered;
the fire consumed them. (The apostates among them have had their fruit burned up by the
false fire of the eastern spirits.) {13} And now it is planted in the wilderness, in a dry and
thirsty land. {14} And fire is gone out of the rods of its branches, it hath devoured its
fruit, so that there is in it no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a lamentation, and
shall be for a lamentation. (Because of their sins they cannot stand before these spirits.)
Because of his rebellion against God, Jonah was smitten of the eastern spirits by Him and
fainted, wanting to die. {Jonah 4:8} And it came to pass, when the sun arose, that God
prepared a sultry east wind (spirits); and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he
fainted, and requested for himself that he might die, and said, It is better for me to die
than to live.

The U.S. is destroyed by spirits of Eastern religions

As a type of the U.S. and her apostate Christians, Babylon, who was the "great eagle" in
Ezekiel 17, made a covenant with the people of God who had rebelled against God's covenant
[verse19]. For this they were withered with the eastern spirits. {Eze.17:10} Yea, behold, being
planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly wither, when the east wind (spirits) toucheth
it? it shall wither in the beds where it grew.

A lamentation was spoken over Tyre, as a type of the U.S., who is broken and sunk in the heart
of the seas by Eastern spirits. We are not just speaking of the moon god of Islam but that which
is infecting the spiritual strength of the U.S., its "spirit-filled" Christians. {Eze.27:25} The ships
of Tarshish were thy caravans for thy merchandise: and thou wast replenished, and
made very glorious in the heart of the seas. {26} Thy rowers have brought thee into great
waters: the east wind (spirits) hath broken thee in the heart of the seas. {27} Thy riches,
and thy wares, thy merchandise, thy mariners, and thy pilots, thy calkers, and the dealers
in thy merchandise, and all thy men of war, that are in thee, with all thy company which is
in the midst of thee, shall fall into the heart of the seas in the day of thy ruin. Notice that
what was spoken of Tyre are almost quotes of what was spoken of Babylon in Revelation 18
and the rest of Ezekiel 27 is even more so.

Tyre is another type of Babylonish U.S. Tyre was compared to Babylon, the great eagle at the
head of the nations, in its destruction. (Isa.23:1) The burden of Tyre. Howl, ye ships of
Tarshish; for it is laid waste, so that there is no house, no entering in…. (13) Behold, the
land of the Chaldeans: this people was not; the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in
the wilderness; they set up their towers; they overthrew the palaces thereof; they made it
a ruin. (14) Howl, ye ships of Tarshish; for your stronghold is laid waste. The parallels
between Tyre, Babylon and the U.S. are too numerous to mention. All are the dominant,
extremely rich, centers of trade in their time. The two common texts that speak of the fall of
Satan depict him ruling the world as the king of Tyre (Ezk.28:12-17) and the king of Babylon
(Isa.14:4,12-15). Now I ask you, who rules Babylonish U.S. as the head of the nations? Satan is
the “god of this world.”

Tyre is said to be “in the heart of the seas” (Ezk.27:4,27). Natural Tyre was in the
Mediterranean sea (singular) next to the coast, not “in the heart.” Spiritual Tyre, the U.S., is
“in the heart of the seas” (plural). Tyre was occupied by Christian Crusaders in 1124 A.D. and
later conquered by Muslims in 1291 A.D., and so it will be with the U.S. Both are isles north and
west of Israel, which were thought impregnable due to their naval power and position in the sea.
Tyre imposed her dominance by her merchant ships of Tarshish. The U.S. has imposed her
dominance by the “merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof” (Ezk.38:13).
Britain’s national symbol is the lion, and her English-speaking “young lions” are, of course, the
U.S., Canada and Australia, along with the other commonwealth nations.

As Alexander the Great conquered Tyre with 120 warships, so the prophets have foretold that
Russia and the U.N. would conquer the U.S. with a great armada of warships. Sidon was the
center of the Phoenician Empire and colonized Tyre (Isa.23:2,12), just as Britain was the center
of the British Empire and colonized the U.S. Geographically, Tyre is south and west of Sidon,
just as the U.S. is south and west of Britain. Just as Sidon was superseded in world dominance
by Tyre, its offspring, so was Britain by the U.S., its offspring. Compare God’s statement about
Babylon (“For thus saith the Lord, After seventy (seven) years are accomplished for
Babylon, I will visit you…” (Jer.29:10)) with His statement about Tyre (“And it shall come to
pass after the end of seventy (seven) years, that the Lord will visit Tyre” (Isa.23:17).)
Notice that both Babylon and Tyre were visited after 70 years by the Lord, just as the U.S. will
be after seven years, “and she shall return to her hire, and shall play the harlot with all the
kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth” (Isa.23:17). Also, both Babylon and Tyre
were harlots having relations with “all the kingdoms of the world,” clearly making them a type
of end-time Babylonish U.S. All three are destroyed for their harlotry. The U.S. has, as a harlot,
received the foreign seed and spirits of the nations for which God will sink her.

The effects of the false anointing from these revivals is not experienced at first. This anointing is like a
Trojan horse -- it was thought to be a gift from God but the enemy is hidden inside, waiting for darkness
to come out and open the doors for more invading demons to conquer the unsuspecting. If you have
become convinced that something is wrong with this movement and your experience you can be free.
Jesus paid for this: {Col.1:13} who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the
kingdom of the Son of his love... Many spirits can eventually invade, including Kundalini, Hindu, Emma-
O, Buddhism, Jezebel, Divination, Witchcraft, Pride, Lust, Greed, Self Will, etc., and the spirits of the sins
of our youth before we knew the Lord. I suggest you repent of known sin and any unforgiveness; that
you renounce any cooperation in the revivals or persons from them who laid hands on you. Gather true
Spirit-filled friends around you and command these spirits and any others you all discern to go in Jesus'
Name. He is faithful to deliver. Then find some holy associations.




                                    Jezebel Invasion from the East



                  Kundalini Awakening Received Through Toronto
                                         L. Thompson
Perhaps some thoughts shared by someone who has actually come away from the "Toronto"
movement after being "lock, stock & barrel" into it would help others who are saying to
themselves, "These people who are so negative about this have not experienced it first-hand."
We live in Southern California and were part of the mainstream Vineyard church here, and also
a smaller vineyard church closer to us.
My husband and I were desperate for God and at the end of everything in our lives
when we came to the local vineyard. We soon heard about renewal meetings in
Anaheim and began attending twice a week. My first impression was that these folks
were a bit bizarre, but being, as I said, quite desperate for God to intervene in our lives,
we "stuck around." We were at the "Let the Fire Fall" conference in 1994 when John
Wimber had John Arnot came and preached at the conference. I witnessed and was
part of all the manifestations that have been described. I must say that it had been so
long since I had "felt" anything, emotional or otherwise, toward the Lord that, even
though the outward looked so weird, my hunger kept me returning.

The vineyard was holding renewal meetings twice a week led by one of their pastors
who had been to Toronto personally. We had to drive an hour one way to attend but did
so usually for both meetings. The pastor would teach for a short period and we would
move chairs away for ministry time. After attending renewal meetings for a couple
months I began to notice some things that the pastor was saying did not make sense to
me. He began to tell us that he did not want to "encourage" outward manifestations. The
jerking, roaring, etc. Yet when ministry time came he would call forward the people who
were on the outside "manifesting" the strongest. The ones that could hardly walk were
shaking so hard; those were the ones who were called to the front and ministered to in
front of us all. This happened while I was there several times.

Well, I can tell you first-hand what this did to my family and people that I knew. People
began to seek the manifestations. At first I was one of the ones who would usually fall
and just weep unstoppable tears. I believe the Lord did give me repentance, as my life
had been so miserable. The tears came and cleansing did happen. But as the pastor
kept calling those forward who were jerking and shaking and wanting "more" I began to
seek, unwittingly, what I believe now were "other gods" -- the gods of experience, for
example. Not that God can't give experiences that are wonderful but each has to be
measured by His Word. There was very little of this at the renewal meetings. I will tell
you I personally had people lay hands and pray for me from the large ministry team of
Anaheim. I was "open" to all of it. In the end, my simple joy of feeling His cleansing
presence became a hunger for the next big "wow." I was shaken, baked, drunk, laughed
till I could not move. Roared, swooned, labored as in childbirth, etc. For me, until the
end of this (which I'll explain later), these experiences were wonderful. I felt new, alive;
but I was not being honest with myself at how these things were taking the place of my
relationship with God. People were getting saved; although not the throngs I kept
hearing about in other places, there were healings. I must say at this point that during all
the time I attended renewal meetings regularly for over a year, not once did a person
challenge any manifestation or spirit according to the scripture. I personally received
training to be on the large ministry team at our local vineyard (which used the teaching
materials from the Anaheim Vineyard).

I was never advised to "test the spirits" according to scripture. Let's be honest here.
When someone is frozen to the ground, the only breath coming is between loud cries,
roars, whatever; that seems like it would be a good time to challenge the spirit of this... I
never saw it done or even heard of it done, even as I began to minister to others as part
of the team. To us, some manifestations were obviously demonic and we used
"discernment" to detect and then pray for deliverance; these manifestations being
nausea, vomiting, obvious torment, etc. When I myself was roaring, laughing, shaking or
crying, no one ever challenged any of it. I was not in any kind of torment while
experiencing these manifestations; it was great. I never saw anyone else appear to
experience torment while experiencing these things. So I blundered on, ignoring
scripture. Then I attended a prophetic conference at Mott Auditorium, the Vineyard of
Pasadena. I did notice that things were "cranked up" a bit more than usual but you have
to remember I was used to all this and it was normal to me. During the ministry time one
of the speakers (from Kansas City) began to "shoot arrows in the spirit" at us. He made
the sound of an arrow shooting -- "whoosh!" -- as he told us to receive what God's
angels had for us. He said, "It's ok to paint a target for where you want the arrow to hit
you." Myself, having suffered from serious childhood hurts, began to place my hand on
my heart and cry out to God. Suddenly I could hardly stand, but this was not the drunk
kind of swoon I had experienced before; this was painful. I ached all over, as if I was
coming apart inside. I wanted to sit down and catch my breath but at that very moment
the speaker called out "Take it," so I forced myself to stand upright. A feeling of anguish
came over me that was awful and indescribable. After the prayer time was over I felt as
if I could move and walk about but the thought came to me to go over in between the
chairs and just lay down for a while. I questioned my own motives for this, as the
conference was over and my family was waiting for me to go home. I went in between
the chairs and laid face down on the cold floor. Soon I was frozen to the floor. I could
not have gotten up if I had wanted to. I could not speak, as people are accustomed to
this -- as I also had been accustomed to this. Outwardly it seemed like just another
person "slain in the spirit" but inwardly I felt different; there was a great element of fear
involved this time. I began to really want to get up but could not. After some time I was
able to move and get up to go home. The next 10 days were so incredibly bizarre I have
difficulty describing what happened. I will say that there were some very bizarre
"impulses" being hurled at my spirit, as to the like I had never experienced. I began to
wonder if someone had put speed into my drinking water during the conference, as I
could not sleep. This was not the night watches of the Lord during the sleeplessness; it
was fearful and oppressive. Part of the reason I had embraced this movement was the
seeming knowledge of the prophetic, now my gifting seemed to turn on me as I
experienced terrifying feelings and apparitions. During this time the Lord brought a
leader to us who was not into the Toronto movement but was a very prophetic person. I
was desperate, as even the leaders we had been involved with abandoned us. The
vineyard pastor from the renewal meetings was just "too busy" and the local vineyard
pastor was upset at us for spending too much time in Anaheim, so he basically had no
time for us either. I mean my husband was begging for help. I was flipping out, running
all over the desert, and they have no time?

I will say God is faithful. The servant he sent us was a true shepherd. He told me I had a
run-in with Kundalini spiritism. THIS MAN HAD NOT EVEN HEARD OF THE
TORONTO MOVEMENT. Yes, that is true; there are people whom God is using who do
not even know about TORONTO. He told me, "Someone has opened up a 'third eye in
you for sight into the demonic spirit realm.' This servant of God prayed the blood of
Jesus over me and had some serious prayer and warfare in my behalf. I was delivered
from those tormenting spirits by the blood of the Lord Jesus but my healing and
restoration has been a matter of walking with Him. I was so trapped in the instant fix
mode from the renewal that I could never have seen the value in the daily walk with the
Lord.

What frightens me about the Toronto movement is that these people, as I was, are
sincerely deceived. The spiritual realm is the realm of warfare. How can we approach
this without the covering of His Word, His battle plan? How can we ignore what He has
told us in scripture and glorify experience or ANYTHING above His name and what He
has given us in Him? Now folks, be honest. Continually bringing people on stage or onto
the alter, wildly manifesting, does distract from thinking about the Lord Jesus; it's, 'Wow,
look at that' and 'Wow, feel this... feel, feel, feel.'

I must testify to His protection, in spite of being involved in this, as there were several
situations during those 10 days I could easily have died. Doing over 90 mph on the
freeways, weaving in and out of traffic is just one example. I also testify to the protection
of much more than my body. He has also redeemed my spirit from what was a plot to
kill it. I believe God did see our hearts and that we were sincere in our search for Him
but we definitely fell into the wrong place. Perhaps if anyone is reading this who is part
of a church that is embracing the Toronto movement, I beg of you to go to the Word and
do not ignore what He is saying to you through His word. 1 John says to test the spirits
to see if they are of God; you are not insulting God to do this. He says to do it.

It was a breath of fresh air for me to hear there were prophetic people who were not
swallowing everything in the Toronto river. I am glad myself and my family were plucked
out before drowning there.

                             Warning About Revival Videos
                                         by Josef Urban


I just want to share a warning with you all about watching the videos of this thing on the Internet
and of watching the videos of those things related to it. Also of listening to the worship music.
Even of videos and music and such from people associated with this that are of the same spirit.

I know a brother who was having serious spiritual attacks the day after he watched a video of
the revival and spoke against this, and they persisted, until he prayed and broke the demonic
curses and they left instantly.

Also, last night a dark presence came upon my house after watching a video. As soon as we
prayed, it went away. And then I knew there was truly something there.

A brother here also had the same thing happen to him last night after watching these videos. He
said a dark presence and a wicked spirit entered his house and he and his wife both discerned it
and commanded it out and it left and that he too has been warned not to watch these things any
more.

There is something really powerful at work here and it's something that the Word of Faith
preachers haven't even fully tapped into.

Saints, be careful of these videos. I have personally had my severe warning from the Lord not to
watch them anymore, and these other two brothers have also. There is more than just words in
conflict here; this is a conflict of spirits. So be warned, and be covered with the blood of Jesus! If
you must watch them for the purpose of discernment, and for speaking against it specifically as
is profitable for the souls of men, then be covering yourself in prayer for protection as you do.
And when you're done, break all curses over you and command any evil spirit to depart from
your midst!

For those of you who have been watching it, and have embraced it and are accepting
everything that comes from this move and from Todd Bentley, I believe you are potentially in
serious trouble and you really need to seek the Lord to open your eyes and renounce everything
that is not directly from the Spirit of God.

Matt replies: Just chiming in to say I agree with you wholeheartedly. I've only watched 6 minutes
of one video and had to turn it off. I felt the Holy Spirit warn me not to ever watch again. His
words to me were, "Don't allow this into your home." After some prayer, I know this is truly a
Word from the Lord.




Click here for an audio teaching on this subject.




                       Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival

In an effort to bring additional information regarding Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival, we
have included here a compilation by Hannah Weiss.

Due to the fact that we take the impartations of demons very seriously, parts of this article were
left out. We must guard our hearts and ask for what the Lord wants us to have ONLY, thereby
refusing anything from Satan. We must be diligent in these times and ask that our Heavenly
Father keep us from deception and fill us with only His Holy Spirit. Following the article from Ms.
Weiss there is also included a prophecy/vision from Stanley Frodsham from 1965.

To read the entire article from Ms. Weiss, click here.
- Some Research Bits for Those With Questions -

- facts & scriptures, no editorials -

compiled by Hannah Weiss, 4/june/08

(Restorers of Zion, Israel) www.restorersofzion.org

Bit No. 1: A firsthand look at what Todd Bentley does (an example that predates Lakeland
by 4 years)

Sending the 'fire' to Australia and Finland - "Todd Bentley Impartation” (labeled as being from a
"Toronto conference" in 2004)

We do not recommend that these video clips be viewed; they contain many disturbing
and potentially dangerous words and even the possibility of imparting demons. Should
you decide to watch these videos, viewers are advised to cover themselves with the
blood of Jesus and to actively refuse to receive anything NOT of God; in other words –
pray, pray, pray!

An analysis of this video clip, especially the tongues.

Q: Public utterance in tongues -- is it supposed to actually mean something?

A: According to Paul, yes, and it's assumed to be prophetic.

In fact, before Todd gave these utterances, he actually prayed that he would prophesy (see clip,
starting at the 10 sec mark)

"There are perhaps a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without
meaning."

(I Cor.14:10)

"If I come to you speaking in tongues, what shall I profit you, unless I speak to you either by
way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching?" (I Cor.14:6)

"Let all things be done for edification.... If there is no interpreter, let him [who speaks in a
tongue] keep silent." (I Cor.14:26, 28)

Q: Is it necessary to understand a prophecy given in tongues?

A: According to Paul, yes -- and not just to understand it, but also to test it.
"If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and let
one interpret." (I Cor.14:27)

"And let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.... and the spirits of
prophets are subject to prophets; for G-d is not a God of confusion but of peace..." (I
Cor.14:29, 32-33)

Q: Can Todd Bentley's tongue actually be understood?

A: Yes, because it is clear and deliberate.

"Unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken?" (I
Cor.14:9)

So it CAN "be known what is spoken", IF we can pinpoint what language it is.

NOTE: many of the words in this clip, and other words Todd Bentley is known to shout out when
he lays hands on people, can be found in a Sanskrit dictionary.

Q: Why Sanskrit? What made you even think of looking in a Sanskrit dictionary?

A: Sanskrit is the holy tongue of Hinduism, and it's the language used in "giving Shaktipat"....
which is what Todd Bentley appears to be doing in his "impartations." See the comparison later.

Q: So, assuming the words are Sanskrit, what is he saying over these people?

A: Here is a list, based on the above clip. I could not catch everything - these were the clearest.

- The word in "quotes" is the phonetic word on the clip, in the order they occur in the video. You
can check my accuracy by listening to the clip yourself.

- The word in (parentheses) is the phonetic word in the Sanskrit dictionaries on-line. (Sanskrit is
a language with its own script, so this is the closest we can get to the sound of the real word.)

- Then there is the definition, followed by the online source so you can see for yourself (use the
phonetic spelling to look it up).

Pronounced over Australian believers: Start at mark 5:00 on the timer.

1. "boomba" was pronounced over 3 (bhumba) - a holy vessel - specifically a Buddhist ritual
water pot

source: http://www.thethankahouse.com/ritual.html
2. "sapa" was pronounced over 3 (sa'apa) - by the curse of / a curse

sources: http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sapa

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

3. "suba" (subha) - fair (ie, beautiful woman) / useful

source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

4. "seba" pronounced with extra force and stuttering - "sebababababa!" (possibly sevaa) -
service

source: http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-04-11/article/29723

This is the only one followed by an interpretation: "crusades! stadiums filled... like in the days of
Kathryn Kuhlman..."

[for info on Kathryn Kuhlman, go to:

5. "fire, fire, fire" - see comments on kundalini fire in Bit No. 2

Pronounced over Finnish believers: (mark 7:15)

6. "shuba" (Shubha, sometimes subha) - auspicious / good / a blessing

source: http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/subha/id/143297

7. "shobbaba" - ?? - "shobha" is Sanskrit for "brilliant one". He may be stuttering on this word, or
it may a form of "shobha" (for example, the plural is a class of gods)

source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

8. "bakusta" - ?? - could not find any Sanskrit translation, but the word is clear. "Bakusta" does
mean something in Finnish (someone from Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan)

9. bam-bam" - (BhaMBhaM) - to sodomize

source: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

(NOTE: This sounds far-fetched and even slanderous --- until you notice that within seconds, a
girl starts moving like she is being ravished from behind. Todd returns to her, says "it's on you
right now..." and stands in front of her prophesying. See mark 7:35.)
10. "fire, fire, fire" - see comments on kundalini "fire" in Bit No. 2.

11. "sheeka" (zikhaa) - flame

source: http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&tinput=sheeka&...

12. "shuba -shuba -shuba" (see 6 above)

After he is finished, he says, "alright, that was fun."


Q: Couldn't all this be just a weird coincidence?

A: That's for you to judge - keep reading.




Bit No. 2: About SHAKTIPAT (Hindu impartation ceremony)

Summary:

1. "Shaktipat" is Sanskrit for "descent of grace." That "grace" is released by "kundalini"
(defined in Hinduism as "an intelligent force" coiled like a snake at the base of the spine, related
to the god Shiva).

"Diksha" is "initiation" into a new path of enlightenment, which is usually the occasion for
receiving Shaktipat.

2. Shaktipat is "given" by a guru, someone possessing divine powers to trigger initiation and
unlock the kundalini force. It can be given any of the following ways:

- by a touch (usually on the "third eye" - the forehead - or one of the "chakras" - top of head,
throat, chest, solar plexis, base of spine).

- by a specially chosen word (spoken in Sanskrit)

- by a deep look into the eyes

- by blowing on someone

- by "remote" (out of body visitations from the guru)

- and these days, it can be done electronically (by following instructions while watching a video)
3. Shaktipat is considered "contagious" - it can spread through a crowd as the guru passes,
it can be carried and passed by touch from one disciple to another, it can be passed by objects
the guru has touched, or it can be sent by "remote" through reproduced videos, trance-inducing
music, etc.

4. For Shaktipat to be "received", it doesn't require conscious cooperation or agreement, only
"surrender" to the influence. Kundalini is understood to take over the one receiving this
experience.

5. The evidence of receiving Shaktipat is the appearance of "kriyas" - involuntary jerking,
falling, laughing and/or shaking. Some have experienced retching and gagging. Other
evidences known to happen, and considered normal:

- visions

- animal or other inarticulate noises

- being healed of diseases

- intense positive emotions that leave them incoherent

- spontaneous yoga postures (especially bowing to the floor)

- spontaneous speaking in tongues (usually Sanskrit)

Someone who has their kundalini awakened is regarded as "on fire," and to spread that
awakening is to "ignite" others. The fire (called "tummo") is regarded as the source of
healings.

Shaktipat is admitted by Hindus to be potentially harmful. Kundalini is considered a very
powerful force, and if it is not properly "controlled" it can cause sickness, madness or death.
Shiva (sometimes also called "Siva") is the god of destruction and is worshiped from fear.

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Some documentation:

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1. About Shaktipat - from "Siddha Mahayoga FAQ" -
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/SiddhaMahayoga/id/34752

What is shaktipat?
''Shakti'' is another word for kundalini and ''pat'' means to descend. Shaktipat is a method by
which an individual's kundalini is awakened by the direct intervention of a guru. There are
several varieties of shaktipat depending on the facility of the guru and the receptiveness of the
disciple.
There are also a variety of mechanisms for conveying shaktipat. These include: by glance, by
word or mantra, by touch or simply by intention.
Who can give shaktipat?
...in theory ''anyone on fire'' can give shaktipat, i.e. anyone who's kundalini is already awakened.
Can one receive shaktipat just by being in the presence of those with awakened shakti?
There is no doubt that shakti is contagious. The mere presence of a single being whose shakti
is strongly active can awaken the shakti of those around him. Similarly being in the presence of
many people whose shakti is awakened to some degree can awaken one's own shakti.
The unique perspective of Siddha Mahayoga is that because kundalini is an intelligent force it
will, upon awakening, naturally direct the practice of the student. All that is required is that the
student completely surrender to this force. As a result of kundalini's unfoldment spontaneous
purifying movements, called kriyas will occur.
What are kriyas?
Kriyas, literally ''activities'', are spontaneous movements that occur after kundalini awakening.
These include bodily activities such as trembling, shaking and spontaneous yoga postures;
vocal activities such as yelling, or spontaneous chanting and mental activities such as visions.
These kriyas eliminate the blocks to kundalini rising within the spine or central channel.

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2. About Kriyas - http://kundalini-teacher.com/symptoms/kriyas.php

"Most kriyas are simple tremors or twitches as tension held in the body, releases. However, they
can be quite complex movements, breathing patterns, (pranayama) vocalizations, visions...
That is why people who may never have studied Hatha Yoga, find their bodies wanting to
assume Yoga postures, or why people who do not speak a foreign language may find
themselves spontaneously chanting in Sanskrit."
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3. About the 'fire' of healing [from the above site]:

Tummo Fire is Tibetan, also known as gtummo, the inner fire. In practice, you use the tummo
fire much the same as Reiki or therapeutic touch, but no drawing symbols.
This type of tummo is specific to the process of healing and clearing the emotional blockages of
karma, enhancing and smoothing the process of Kundalini, and paving the road to
enlightenment.Tummo initiation is a very powerful type of shaktipat that can smooth and
accelerate the process in a very safe and easy way.
Tummo is the clear light, heat that burns away the emotional blockages, etc. that are at the root
of illness. Tummo fire is related to Kundalini heat. It is based in the solar plexus, but can show
up anywhere in the body, burning off karma.
When the fire is active, it reduces the need for emotional release.
Tummo fire can also be transmitted by remote.
At the end of the initiation, the power is put under the guidance of your unconscious/spirit, which
directs it to where it needs to be. It can also be directed consciously.



Bit No. 3: "Test the Spirits" - Comparing Hindu and Bentley practices side by side

A guru blowing on his disciple to give him Shaktipat

compare with...

Todd Bentley blowing on 3 people to give them "the fire" (watch starting at mark 5:38, then
again at 7:53)

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Some video examples of Hindu disciples giving and receiving impartations:

1- A short clip of kundalini "Kriya" effects in India

2- A clip of a Hindu disciple right after a "diksha" (impartation of Shaktipat)

3- A guru giving "shaktipat", where people fall backwards

compare with...

Some clips showing Todd Bentley's touch and similar results

1- http://youtube.com/watch?v=fFp1tG9z7SM&feature=related

(NOTE: This is the one we analyzed for prophecy - watch again the reactions of those he
touches, starting at mark 5:00. Also consider that he rejects the idea of stand-ins who are native
Australians or Finns with a spiritual burden for his/her country - he insists they must be
physically going to the targeted countries.)

2- http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/more-slam-bam-moves-from-todd-
bentley-on-lakeland-florida-outpouring-stage/#comment-7972

(NOTE: The poster who uploaded this clip felt that Todd was doing this "for show." From my
research, it is likely he was not in control of himself. Notice that Todd begins to have Kriyas a
while before he hits the German man with his knee - as explained above in Bit No.2, Kriyas are
involuntary movements when kundalini takes over)

3- http://battle4truth.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/latest-video-from-florida-revival-todd-bentley/

(NOTE: This is very recent - last week - and is apparently a new level of spiritual "intoxication."
Todd's comment: "It hasn't been like this on the platform before - not like this!"

What is new here: Todd's self-control has disintegrated, and his body is manifesting Kriyas
almost continually. Also it's spreading to his assistants. And all reverence for G-d is gone,
replaced by "come and get some!" in a mocking, drunken tone.

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The testimony of an Australian girl who received "Diksha" from a guru

She gets healed.... sees "Jesus"... has spiritual visits from her guru for further healing.... feels
peace... sees orbs of light.

compare with...

1- The testimony of an American girl who sought the Lord at Todd Bentley's conference (2005)

Talk about "orbs of light"...Todd Bentley unable to read from his Bible - every time he tried, he
became "drunk" or incoherent or could not stop laughing.

2- Todd's own account of spiritual (out of body) visits to Australia (see video clip from Bit No. 1,
starting mark 1:00) and also Europe (starting mark 5:50).

He tells of a woman in England who claims he "visited" her and healed her (mark 8:20), and of
similar cases in Canada (starting mark 8:40).

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A pause for some relevant questions:

Q: Isn't it true that Satan just copies G-d's holy things? Why should we throw out a move of G-d
just because there are similar "copycat" things on the other side?

A: There are some things defined in Scripture as ORIGINATING on Satan's side, and we are
commanded to "not do likewise." Prominent among those forbidden things are occult practices
and ways of worship:
"...do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also
may do likewise?' You shall not behave thus toward the L-rd your God..."(Deut.12:30-31).

Q: Can't we just sift out the junk and keep what is truly from G-d? The scripture does say, "Do
not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully;
hold fast to that which is good" (I Thess.5:19-21).

A: Yes, and it goes on to say, "Abstain from every form of evil." (v.22). This applies particularly
to the things used by idol worshipers, where we are forbidden to salvage even the raw gold and
silver that were originally part of an idol (Deut.7:25).

Regarding "prophetic utterances," when we "examine everything carefully" that is coming from
Todd Bentley, how much is there left "to hold fast to"?

One immediate example:

Todd predicted (Bit No.1 video, starting at mark 4:30) "a great move of G-d" with "hundreds of
ministries with power, miracles, signs and wonders" that would carry revival to Indonesia,
Malaysia and Southeast Asia. He gave a timetable: "in the next 12 to 14 months."

That was said in July 2004. Search on the Internet for some report that a "revival" of that
magnitude came to (or went out from) any of those countries in 2005... or 2006... or 2007. If it
didn't happen, scripture says we are not to take him seriously as a prophet (Deut.18:22).

A second example:

Todd prophesied at that time about seeing "a tidal wave" hitting Malaysia. Here is the direct
quote:

"I saw an open vision of a tidal wave of revival hitting Malaysia. I'm telling you it's coming
within the next 12 to 14 months. Things are about to break out in Malaysia... our team is going
there in December." (see the video, starting mark 4:52 ).

On December 26, 2004, a LITERAL tidal wave hit Malaysia. At the Fresh Fire Prophetic
Conference in April 2005, his prophecy was revised accordingly, as a form of "judgment."

"Referring to a prophetic word he delivered in July, 2004 about a tsunami wave hitting S.E.
Asia, Todd said that the church was now entering a season in which judgment would
continue to hit the earth."

Q: How could anyone do real miracles in the Lord's name, and the Lord would not be behind it?
Yeshua said we can't gather good fruit from a bad tree. (Matt.7:18)

A: Right after Yeshua's teaching about knowing them by their fruits (and He was speaking about
prophets - see v.15), He warns us of "MANY" who will prophesy in His name and "perform many
miracles" as well (v.22-23).

Our problem is that we have redefined "good fruit" as "results," when He had already defined it
as "doing the will of My Father" (v.21). We have heard "these words" of Yeshua and not acted
on them (see v.26), and we are about to see a major collapse throughout the Lord's Body
(v.27).




Bit No. 4: Todd Bentley's tattoos

There are a lot of discussions about what they are and what they mean, but I am skipping that
part, because:

1- Tattoos of any kind are questionable for believers. For those who don't feel bound by Torah
commands, there is the NT teaching that our bodies are Temples of G-d and we are not our
own. For Israelis and Jews, there is the added connection of the Nazi practice of tattooing both
Jews and Aryans, which is disturbing.

2- Trying to decipher and interpret the tattoos is inconclusive, and this has distracted many
people, causing them to miss the much clearer problem of his occult practices and false
prophecies.

The only part I will address here is the evidence that Todd Bentley did have these tattoos and
piercings done after beginning his ‘revival ministry':

Compare this video of him preaching in Toronto.

Take a second look also at the video from Bit No.1.




Bit No. 5: Todd Bentley's teachings compared with the dark side of Kabbalah

See connections to the occultic "tree of life," the number 10, angelic powers, serpent
enlightenment, Samael (the rabbinic name for AntiChrist and/or the Beast).

Hear Lakeland pastor Stephen Strader describe the "10 anointings" (one of which is debt
elimination).




Bit No. 6: Todd Bentley's spirit guides
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from G-d,
because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (I John 4:1)
"Emma" / "Emma'O"
Bentley's firsthand testimony (from http://www.etpv.org/2003/angho.html)
EMMA, ANGEL OF THE PROPHETIC
Now let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me about this
angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: "Todd, have you ever seen the angel by the name of
Emma?" He asked me as if he expected that this angel was appearing to me. Surprised, I said,
"Bob, who is Emma?" He told me that Emma was the angel that helped birth and start the whole
prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped
nurture the prophetic as it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was
in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan
and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord
said, "Here's Emma." I'm not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost
like Kathryn Khulman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was
gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young-about 22 years old-but she
was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on
her life.
She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began
pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began
putting gold dust on people. "God, what is happening?" I asked. The Lord answered: "She is
releasing the gold, which is both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that I am bringing
into this church. I want you to prophecy that Emma showed up in this service-the same angel
that appeared in Kansas city-as a sign that I am endorsing and releasing a prophetic spirit in the
church." See, when angels come, they always come for a reason; we need to actually ask God
what the purpose is. Within three weeks of that visitation, the church had given me the biggest
offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands! Even
though the entire community consisted of only three thousand people, weeks after I left the
church the pastor testified that the church offerings had either doubled or tripled.
During this visitation the pastor's wife (it was an AOG church) got totally whacked by the Holy
Ghost- she began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful
prophetic spirit came on her. Also, as this prophetic anointing came on her, she started getting
phone numbers of complete strangers and calling them up on the telephone and prophesying
over them. She would tell them that God gave her their telephone number and then would give
them words of knowledge. Complete strangers. Then angels started showing up in the church.
I believe Emma released a financial and prophetic anointing in that place. That was the first
angel that I have ever seen in the form of a woman. Some angels I've seen seemed like they
were neither male nor female. However, Emma appeared as a woman who was like a Deborah,
like a mother in Zion. When she came, she began to mentor, nurture and opened up a prophetic
well. The people in the church began having trances and visions and the pastor began getting
words of knowledge and moving in healing. That congregation also saw more financial
breakthrough than they had ever seen before.
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Compare with this information on Hindu gods [From Answers.com]:
Emma-O’, derived from the Sanskrit Yama (see Yama), is the Japanese Buddhist Lord of
Jigoku, or Hell (see Jigoku). Emma judges souls and places them in hells appropriate to their
crimes. In this context there are a total of eight hells. These have been described by people who
were for one reason or another released from punishment. The hells are a popular subject for
Japanese scrolls. Emma’s primary enemy is Jizō (see Jizō), always a supporter of the dead
souls against Emma and usually the victor over his dark adversary.
As Jizō’s popularity has grown and Emma’s diminished, Emma has become a demon.
...and compare with this note [From Lakeland Revival: Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, and some
things to consider, http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/lakeland-revival-todd-bentley-
bob-jones-and-some-things-to-consider/
"While researching this revival today, and the programs being aired at GODTV, it was noted by
at least 2 people who watched a recent program that this ‘Angel’ was also being referred to by
Bentley as not only ‘Emma’ but ‘Emma-O’ on occasion."
Bentley changes angelic partners
There are reports that he has removed the above testimony about Emma from his site.
Apparently other controversial articles are disappearing... and sometimes reappearing with
different URLs. [see Todd Bentley - strange manifestations on Fresh Fire website! -
http://discerningtheworld.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/todd-bentley-emma-move-over-sundar-
singh-is-in-the-house/]
There is a report that Bentley has adopted a newer, stronger, scarier (and more manly) angel
named "Angel of the Lord", who releases wealth too. See the CBN interview with Lakeland
pastor Stephen Strader (http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/370341.aspx)
Other angels being discussed off and on: "Promise" "Winds of Change" "Flame"



Bit No. 7: Todd Bentley's Spiritual Mentors and Supporters

(a partial list, but digging below the surface to test these prophets as well)

TODD BENTLEY'S MENTORS

Bob Jones: Kansas City prophetic ministry, and throughout the 1980s considered one of their
most gifted prophets. He is credited with predicting the "outbreak" of the 1994 Toronto
"blessing", ten years earlier. [see
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/prophey-bob-jones-role-in-toronto-
blessing-brownsville-lakeland-what-comes-next-civil-war-in-the-church/]
In 2003, Jones introduced Todd Bentley to "Emma", who they both say had fueled the Kansas
City 'revival' as well. (see Bit No.6 above for Emma, see below for KC). He has gone on record
proclaiming Bentley's ministry as a "third wave" of revival.

Jones was removed from his prophetic post in 1991 after admitting to sexual misconduct.


Because of Jones’ national visibility and ministry, the National Board for the Association of
Vineyard Churches in Anaheim, led by John R. Wimber, issued a letter Tuesday to all of its
churches explaining the incident.

“The sins for which Bob has been removed from ministry include using his gifts to manipulate
people for his personal desires, sexual misconduct, rebelling against pastoral authority,
slandering leaders and the promotion of bitterness within the body of Christ,” the letter stated.

[snipped]

The church is seeking private counseling for Jones, his wife and the two women, said Gulliksen,
who will personally oversee the counseling.

“Bob will not be free to minister until he is fully recovered,” Gulliksen said. “It’s not like Jimmy
Swaggert who overnight said, ‘Now I’ve sinned and I am back in charge.’”

This is the 12th incident with similar accusations against a Vineyard church leader since 1974 when
Gulliksen and his wife founded the church in Los Angeles, Gulliksen said. All 12 leaders were
removed and counseling was provided, and frequently paid for, by the church for the leaders and
the victims, he said. After years of counseling, six of those 12 have returned to ministry positions of
lesser standing.

© 1991 The Olathe Daily News. November 13, 1991, p. 3A

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The latest on Bob Jones: struck with kidney failure on Dec. 11, 2007.
At first they were claiming a complete and miraculous healing from G-d. More recently the
miracle has been described differently:
[from http://www.bobjones.org/index.cfm ] (May 6, 08)
"Our last visit to the kidney doctor was a great success. Bob’s kidney function continues
to improve; the creatinine level dropped to 3.1 so the doctor removed the perm-cath from
his chest last Wednesday.
We still need to have a fistula placed in his arm in the event he should need dialysis in
the future. However, we believe the Lord gave us a miracle and will continue to heal the
kidneys and totally restore his health. He is gaining strength daily. We must be good
stewards of the miracle He gave us."

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Paul Cain: Kansas City's "chief prophet," promoted by them as very gifted in words of
knowledge, and revered as a spiritual "father" to some of the movement's current prophetic
leaders.

Cain joined Todd Bentley's Lakeland revival in May 2008.

(from a blogger's post at the Lakeland Church site, May 4, 08)
Last night, amid the miracles of God and healings, Todd Bentley announced that prophet Paul
Cain was coming to Lakeland, the first night at Tiger Town Stadium, but also possibly coming to
The Lakeland Center as well.
Some highlights of who prophet Paul Cain is:
    · At the age of 17, Paul began to hold citywide salvation and healing campaigns in tents,
        civic auditoriums and churches where supernatural and documented healings took
        place.
    · He became one of many revivalists during the “Healing Revival” which lasted from 1947 to
        1958.
    · During the great healing revival, Paul’s ministry reached international proportions. In 1954,
        his manager purchased the world’s largest gospel tent from Jack Coe, having a capacity
        to hold 8,000 people. Paul toured the country, filling it with thousands wherever he went.
Prophet Paul Cain runs with other powerful men of God such as Oral Roberts, William
Branham, O.L. Jaggers, A.A. Allen, T.L. Osborn, Jack Coe, and Franklin Hall.
Paul Cain prophesied that the day would come that American believers would fill stadiums
across the land. Todd Bentley, Paul Cain, Stephen Strader of Ignited Church, and many others,
believe that The Florida Revival in Lakeland, Florida, especially at Tiger Town Stadium (Joker
Marchant Stadium), is the beginning of the manifestation of that vision.
Expect Paul Cain tonight!

Bentley honored Cain at Lakeland (13/5/08) for the above-mentioned prophecy which he had
given in 1999.

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While being hailed as a prophet, Paul Cain was living a double life as a practicing homosexual
and alcoholic:

[from http://www.morrnnsstrarministries.ore/oages/ special~bulleu.ns/0ct_19.html]
"In February 2004, we were made aware that Paul had become an alcoholic. In April 2004, we
confronted Paul with evidence that he had recently been involved in homosexual activity. Paul
admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of
restoration, which the three of us would oversee. However, Paul has resisted this process and
has continued in his sin...
With our deepest regrets and sincerity, Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, Mike Bickle."
Paul Cain at first denied the truth, and apologized for it in 2005:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050225053035/http://www.paulcain.org/news.html
"I must apologize to the body of Christ for my recent conduct. I want to correct the denials that I
made earlier in reference to charges brought against me...."
Two years later, this announcement was circulated:
[from http://www.morningstarministries.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?id=1000013152]
In light of Paul Cain's recent announcement of restoration to ministry, we have been repeatedly
asked for input. First, we rejoice in God's mercy that provides anyone with total forgiveness for
any sin that is repented of. However, forgiveness of our sin is not the same as being restored to
public ministry. We care much about Paul's life before God and his future ministry. We believe
that his future ministry could far surpass his former ministry, if he allows the full restoration
process to take place. Paul originally agreed to submit to Larry Alberts and his team in his
restoration process. These men are well known and respected by many of Paul's friends in
ministry. We strongly urged him not to leave Larry's care and oversight. However, he left Larry's
oversight just over a year ago and moved to California to relate to a group of men that we do not
know much about. Neither do we know the process that they say that Paul went through.
Therefore, we cannot say with confidence that this is a genuine restoration that is according to
the principles of God's Word...
Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner and Jack Deere, 1/22/2007
(More about Bickle, Joyner and Deere below under KC)
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Whether Cain has now been restored from his sexual sin is a big topic for argument -- and I
believe it is a clever diversion. The believers are always ready to exclude someone for sexual or
financial sins - and we usually miss far more dangerous spiritual problems.
Consider these errors, which Cain was never asked to repent from:
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1- His "new breed" doctrine (shared with fellow prophet Bob Jones), which places importance
on physical bloodlines - and hails a "New World Order".
[from http://watch.pair.com/rain.html]
Paul Cain:
"God is raising up a new standard, a new banner if you will, that’s going to radically change the
expression, the understanding of Christianity in our generation…God has invited us to have a
role in establishing this NEW ORDER of Christianity…God is offering to this generation
something He has never offered to any other generation… Beware lest OLD ORDER brethren
rob you and steal this hope from you!
(Vineyard Prophecy Conference, 1989)
Bob Jones [speaking in G-d's name]:
"I have called the best of every blood line in earth unto this generation…I have elected to bring
them forth in this generation…THE ELECT GENERATION…even the bloodline of Paul…of
David…of Peter, James and John…They will even be superior to them in heart, stature and love
for me’…Your children will possess the spirit without measure…They will move into things of the
supernatural that no one has ever moved in before…coming into the DIVINE NATURE of Jesus
Christ…a Church that has reached the full maturity of the GODMAN! This generation…is going
to see the beginning of this WORLD WIDE NEW ORDER."
(Vineyard Prophecy Conference, 1989)
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2. His false prophecies, proclaimed and supported by Rick Joyner, for example:
[from http://morningstarministries.org/Publisher/File.aspx?id=1000002736]

“THE MOST AMAZING AND WONDERFUL ASPECT OF THIS DREAM WAS THAT PAUL
CAIN SAW THE LORD PUTTING HIS SPIRIT UPON BILL CLINTON AND CHANGING HIM
INTO ANOTHER MAN, JUST AS HE DID KING SAUL IN I

SAMUEL!”

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3. His divination abilities, which were inherited and not a spiritual gift:
[from http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel19.html]
David Pyches, who has authored a book extolling the Kansas City prophets, recounts the early
clairvoyant talent of Paul Cain:
Paul's mother, grandmother, and great grandmother had all been born with the gift of seeing.
His great-grandmother would sometimes see things in broad daylight and ask her friend or
family if they could see them too. If they said they could not, she would occasionally wave her
hand upon them and they would immediately see the identical vision... Paul now found he was
"seeing" also and would know things that were going to happen to classmates at school or were
happening to absent friends. He knew simple things like who would end up with a bloody nose
or who would win a race... By the age of nine "Little Brother" (as he was being affectionately
referred to by adults, perhaps because it was the form of address used by the angel who spoke
to him from time to time) began public preaching in a limited way....
On one occasion Mike Bickle had been complaining to his wife that he had "a bit of a sniffle" or
a slight cold - something he rarely had - the phone rang, Bickle picked up the receiver and
heard Paul on the line. He had heard about Paul's gift so he said by way of a joke, "Hi, Paul!
You're all right today! How am I?" Immediately Paul answered him, "Why Mike, you've got a bit
of a sniffle and you are all wet. Your hair is standing up on the left side of your head." (Bickle
had just gotten out the shower). (Pyches, pgs. 24,26,29,30.
A friend of ours from Australia was in a public meeting in which Cain was speaking. This man
had just lost his wife and Cain (with no knowledge of this man) pointed to him and told him so
and proceeded to name his four sons.
Art Katz reported:
"That man is a prophet of God"... "He lold me secrets of my heart which no man could possibly
know!" (David Pyches, Some Say It Thundered, (Oliver-Nelson: Nashville, Tn.), 1991, p.81.
A publisher of a famous Charismatic magazine once harbored some doubts regarding Cain.
Cain later met him and proved to him that he was indeed a prophet of God. Cain then referred
to a boat owned by the publisher and preceded to tell him the numbers of his boat license after
which the publisher called him truly a prophet of God.
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The latest on Paul Cain: Shortly after appearing with Todd Bentley on May 13, 08, Cain was
hit with a stroke:
http://www.charismamag.com/cms/news/archives/051308.php
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TODD BENTLEY'S ROOTS - TORONTO REVIVAL & KANSAS CITY PROPHETS
The video in Bit No. 1 was in a conference under the "Toronto Revival" covering. The Vineyard
logo is clearly visible on the stage. This tells us that (a) Todd is "practicing" these things and has
not just "fallen into" them; and (b) Toronto Revival leaders have long supported these practices.
John Wimber: head of the Toronto Vineyard "revival", responsible for proclaiming Paul Cain as
a true prophet. He was one-upped by his Toronto associate Jack Deere, who called Cain and
Jones the Two Witnesses of Revelation:
"You see why we're excited about someone like Paul Cain or Bob Jones coming on the scene?
Or others that we 'ye met... you know those two powerful witnesses in Revelation 11:3? They
are prophets. He said they will prophesy for 1,260 days. He's going to end the last days just
before His Son returns with a prophetic movement that will sweep the entire face of the earth
and will eclipse anything we have ever seen before..." (Deere, It Sounds Like the Mother of All
Battles, Vineyard Ministries International, 1990 quoted by Jewel van der Merve in her
Discernment newsletter, 1991).
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The latest on John Wimber: died Nov. 18, 1997, of a brain hemorrhage.
http://www.worship.co.za/la/obituary.htm
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Mike Bickle: The 3rd leader of Kansas City, who originally worked with Cain and Jones. He
wholeheartedly supported these men as true prophets. He was accused of covering for some of
their prophecies that did not come to pass.
[from
http://www.christiandoctrine.net/doctrine/articles/article_00093_the_kansas_city_prophets_web.
htm]
In 1983 Bob Jones made a 'prophecy' that there would be three months of drought. Mike Bickle
said at the time,
"Kansas City was known as the bread-basket of the world; it was the centre of grain
farming, fanning out to a radius of five hundred miles. For the whole of June there was
no rain! IT was terrible! For the whole of July there was no rain! It was terrible! No rain
during the first week of August or the second or the third. It was terrible! Bob Jones said
that the Lord had told him it would come on 23rd August. We had all been poised since
early dawn that day, but by 1 pm there was still no rain. By six o'clock we were just
resigned to wait another day when suddenly it began. And did it rain? It poured! No man
could have manipulated that. It just had to be God!"
...the pastor of a charismatic church in Kansas City... Ernest Gruen, said there was no drought!
The U.S. National Weather Bureau confirms that seven inches of rain fell on Kansas City in
June 1983. It rained on 12 out of thirty days - almost half the month! On just one of those days,
the rainfall was seven times the rainfall on 23rd August! So, the prophecy was a lie and a fake.
What is far worse, is that Bickle afterward (that is, after knowing what really happened, and after
knowing the prophecy to be false) claimed it to be true.
A longer history of KC Prophetic Ministry -1982 - 2000, includes firsthand testimonies from
former KCP associates
http://www.intotruth.org/kcp/kcp-roots.html
"The Kansas City Prophets Exposed" - A 233-page testimony and eyewitness accounts of
abuse at KC ministries, by a Kansas City pastor, Ernie Gruen
http://www.intotruth.org/kcp/kcp-gruen.html
Here is an interview with Ernie Gruen, where he refutes the rumors that he had apologized to
Mike Bickle for circulating the testimony against KC IHOP.
http://thegreycoats.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/the-much-awaited-interview-with-ernie-gruen/

More firsthand testimony from Andrew Strom, formerly with the Kansas City ministry: "Why I left
the Prophetic Movement" (2004)

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~revival/leaving.html

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TODD BENTLEY SUPPORTERS
Rick Joyner on Todd Bentley: "The History and Future of the Present Revival - Part 4"
from http://www.morningstarministries.org/Publisher/Article.aspx?id=1000032410
I saw faith become a fist that punched a hole through an overcast of clouds. This was the
demonic oppression over America. As the holes opened up, angels started pouring through
them. The bigger the holes were, the more angels that were coming through them. They were
carrying the resources of heaven that included everything we needed. Heaven is about to
invade earth. This is going to cause a great distinction to develop between those who know and
serve the Lord, and those who do not.

Todd Bentley did punch a hole through the darkness over Lakeland, and heaven has
been pouring through the hole, and it is getting bigger. What is happening in Lakeland is
stirring up the faith of many more. The "faith barometer" has begun to rise all over the body of
Christ. Now many others are reaching up to do the same thing. The sizes of the holes are
dependent on the size of our faith. I pray that what is happening in Lakeland keeps going and
keeps growing, but what is now being released will go on regardless of how long the revival
goes on in Lakeland. A fire has been started that is already too big to stop.
Joyner also participated in Bentley's "Fresh Fire" prophetic conference in April 2005:

[from http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=revival&Id=105&pid=954

SUPERNATURAL SIGNS APPEAR AT PROPHETIC CONFERENCE

Feathers supernaturally appeared in the air and gently fell to the floor, as if God was opening up
the Fresh Fire Ministries prophetic conference with a special divine sign of an open heaven over
the place. This sign caught the attention of the capacity crowd at the Living in the Supernatural
conference listening to the opening prophetic message of Revivalist and FFM founder, Todd
Bentley in Abbotsford, B.C., Canada. About 36 feathers seemed to appear in mid air, a few at a
time, throughout the meeting - they started ten feet below the ceiling, before drifting to earth, as
heaven invaded the building.

During the 4-day event, Todd, as well as international speakers and prophets, Rick
Joyner, John Paul Jackson and Charlie Robinson equipped the more than 2000
attendees and called them out of natural living into a life walked out in the supernatural realm.

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God-TV on Todd Bentley: Live coverage
http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Id=&Act=show_event_details&event=348
http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=revival&Id=130&pid=954&bid=923
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Sid Roth on Todd Bentley:
http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=art_&page=NewsArticle&id=7301
I have just returned from Lakeland, Florida where I interviewed Todd Bentley about the ongoing
revival there. This is the greatest revival since Azusa Street. The physical healing miracles,
salvations, transferable anointing and manifestations of glory are awesome. This is what we all
have been praying and waiting for! Go here to watch a video excerpt of my interview with Todd
and feel the presence of God that was in the studio.
[the interview is at: http://www.sidroth.org/site/PageServer?pagename=tv_videoupdateBentley -
- with the following note:]
Dear Mishpochah,

The interview above was recorded with Todd Bentley at the revival in Lakeland, Florida. Also,
while Todd was ministering at the revival on April 27, 2008, he stopped to give me the following
word:
    The Lord is speaking to me (the Angel). He just spoke to me about Sid Roth....I just
    heard the Lord interrupt me and tell me that this anointing is gonna begin to break out in
    your ministry on the television and something over the airwaves, I mean the radio again.
    God's going to anoint you in a whole new way and this miracle anointing is going to go
    around the world if you will pray for the sick. Bam! It will be released in a mighty way.
NOTE: In the above interview, Bentley tells how the "fire" was carried back to Rick Joyner's
school. Sid Roth tells of a "presence" that entered the studio, and Bentley tries to transfer it to
viewers through the camera - he commands "healing fires" (see "fire of healing" under Bit No. 2)
and invites viewers to reach out and touch their computer screens. Viewers are advised to
cover themselves with the blood of Yeshua and to actively refuse to receive anything.
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Steven Strang of Charisma Magazine on Todd Bentley:
http://strangreport.com/
from "The Long-term Effects of Revival" (May 22, 2008)
It's exciting to see what's happening in Lakeland. In my 32 years of covering the charismatic
movement, I've never seen any "revival meeting" get so much attention so fast. Everyone, it
seems, is talking about it. A long line of respected leaders have attended the meetings to see it
for themselves. Most have come away saying it's a genuine move of God.

After only 50 days, someone said the revival is still a "baby." So it's not fair to pass judgment
yet. That is for God to do. But at the same time, we can look at history to give us an idea of what
to expect. After all, it's well known that those who don't learn the lessons of history are bound to
repeat them. [he then goes on to describe how similar "revivals" ended in scandal, splits,
leaders falling into sin, and other mishaps... then concludes:]
So let’s pray that this revival grows. Pray for the leaders who are under enormous pressure to
minister seven days a week under the glare of national and international media, as well as
critics—both those who want to destroy the revival as well as those who want the revival to stay
on track so it can continute to grow.
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CBN on Todd Bentley:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/370291.aspx
Lakeland Revival Miracle Healings Continue
By Paul Strand
CBN News Sr. Washington Correspondent
May 24, 2008
"astounding miracles" "happening all over the earth simultaneously" because of God TV. Goes
on to document various healings. Nothing about the methods or teachings that go with this
ministry. No comment when one woman said Bentley blew on her and "healed" her, allowing her
to bend over (but the rods in her back are still there).
"There's a silver lining here for all believers who want a piece of this action. It appears the
anointing on Bentley, Strader and all those others God's using in Lakeland is highly
transferable, and they're hearing back from Lakeland visitors who've returned home.... Some
are saying this is the most contagious anointing the world has ever seen."
Anchor man: "Revival has met the Internet age."
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Bit No. 8: Todd Bentley is on his way to Israel.
He is planning to "impart" things to Israeli believers while here.
http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Id=&Act=show_event_details&event=348
Israel & Turkey
November 10 - 24, 2008
There is no encounter that parallels the experience of walking and praying in Israel. If you have
ever dreamed of visiting Israel, prayerfully consider this window of opportunity to walk where
Jesus walked, during this nation’s 60th Anniversary.
Todd Bentley and Fresh Fire Ministries invite you to experience a tour through Turkey and Israel
with us. This will be a unique trip as we journey to key biblical sites in these two strategic
nations. We expect to be lead by the Holy Spirit into times of ministry and prayer on
location, as we remain attentive to His leading. What an amazing time we will have together,
praying and receiving impartation in the very geographical place where Jesus prayed,
performed miracles, instructed His disciples, carried the cross, rose from the dead and
ascended into the heavens!...
Just as the impact of Israel has, for many generations, caused a massive shock wave
throughout every earthly arena, this anniversary celebration will cause a rippling effect
throughout the heavenly realms! That’s why we believe this Fresh Fire trip contains within it, a
divine appointment with the reality of God’s desire to fulfill His promises in our own lives.
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It is my prayer that this research will help those of the brethren who are unsure,
disturbed and/or misinformed about this fast-growing phenomenon.
Please, whatever you do, DO NOT make your decision based on what someone else has
decided. (That includes me!) Learn to examine, think, and seek G-d's truth FOR
YOURSELF. Learn to know your Lord's voice FOR YOURSELF. It is becoming a matter of
Life and Death, spiritually speaking.
==================================================================



                           A Solemn Prophetic Warning

                          Prophecy by Stanley Frodsham 1965

It is written: "Despise not prophesying. Prove all things, hold fast that which is good" (I
Thessalonians 5.-20,21 KIV). The following are excerpts from prophetic words given to
one who was under a heavy anointing. We believe all who read these solemn prophetic
warnings should take diligent heed to them. "Believe in the Lord your God, so ye shall
be established,- believe His prophets, so shall ye prosper" (II Chronicles 20.-20 KIV).

Great darkness is coming upon the countries that have heard My gospel but no longer
walk in it. My wrath shall be manifested against all ungodliness. It shall come with great
intensity. My judgments are literal, and not a thing to be lightly passed over. Before I
visit the nations in judgment, I will begin at My house. When I do cause My wrath to
come upon the cities of the world, My people shall be separate. I desire a people
without spot or wrinkle, and such shall be preserved by Me in the time of My wrath
coming upon all iniquity and unrighteousness.

I am going to prepare you for the coming days by a hard path that will cause you to cry
out continually unto Me. For when the going is easy, men do not seek Me, but rejoice in
a temporary blessing. And when that blessing is removed, they so often turn this way
and that way, but do not come to Me. I am showing you these things that you may seek
Me continually and with great diligence. As you seek Me, I will open up truths to you that
you have not seen before, truths that will enable you to stand in the last days.

Coming Glory and Deceiving Spirits

When I visit My people in mighty revival power it is to prepare them for the darkness
ahead. With the glory shall come great darkness, for the glory is to prepare My people
for the darkness. I will enable My people to go through because of the visitation of My
Spirit. Take heed to yourselves lest ye be puffed up and think that you have arrived.
Listen to the messengers, but do not hold man's persons in admiration. For many whom
I shall anoint mightily with signs and miracles shall become lifted up and shall fall by the
wayside. I do not do this willingly; I have made provision that they might stand. I call
many into this ministry and equip them, but remember that many shall fall. They shall be
like bright lights, and the people shall delight in them. But they shall be taken over by
deceiving spirits, and shall lead many of My people astray.

Hearken diligently concerning these things, for in the last days shall come seducing
spirits 0 Timothy 4:1) that shall turn many of My anointed ones away. Many shall fall
through divers lusts and because of sin abounding. But if you will seek Me diligently I
will put My Spirit within you (Ezekiel 36:27). When one shall turn to the right hand or to
the left hand, you shall not turn with them, but keep your eyes wholly on the Lord. The
coming days are the most dangerous, difficult and dark, but there shall be a mighty
outpouring of My Spirit upon many cities; and many shall be destroyed. My people must
be diligently warned concerning the days that are ahead. Many shall turn after seducing
spirits; many are already seducing My people. It is those who do righteousness that are
righteous. Many cover sins by great theological words, but I warn you of seducing spirits
who instruct My people in an evil way.

Many shall come with seducing spirits and hold out lustful enticements. You will find that
after I have visited My people again, the way shall become more and more narrow, and
fewer shall walk therein. But, be not deceived, the ways of righteousness are My ways.
For though Satan come as an angel of light (II Corinthians 11:13-15), hearken not to
him; for those who perform miracles and speak not righteousness are not of Me. I warn
you with great intensity that I am going to judge My house and have a church without
spot or wrinkle when I come. I desire to open your eyes and give you spiritual
understanding that you may not be deceived, but may walk in uprightness of heart
before Me, loving righteousness and hating every evil way. Look unto Me, and l, will
make you to perceive with the eyes of the Spirit the things that lurk in darkness, that are
not visible to the human eye. Let Me lead you in this way that you may perceive the
powers of darkness and battle against them. It is not a battle against flesh and blood, for
if you battle in that way, you accomplish nothing. But if you let Me take over and battle
against the powers of darkness, then they are defeated; and then liberation is brought to
My people.

The Way of Deceivers

I warn you to search the Scriptures diligently concerning these last days, for the things
that are written shall indeed be made manifest. There shall come deceivers among My
people in increasing number, who shall speak forth the truth and shall gain the favor of
the people, for the people shall examine the Scriptures and say, "What these men say is
true." Then when they have gained the hearts of the people, then and then only shall
they bring out these wrong doctrines. Therefore, I say that you should not give your
hearts to men, nor hold people's persons in admiration. For by these very persons shall
Satan enter into My people. Watch for seducers 01 Timothy 3:13). Do you think a
seducer will brandish a new heresy and flaunt it before the people? He will speak the
words of righteousness and truth and will appear as a minister of light, declaring the
Word. The people's hearts shall be won; they will bring out their doctrines, and the
people shall be deceived. The people shall say, "Did he not speak thus and thus? And
did we not examine it from the Word? Therefore he is a minister of righteousness. That
he has now spoken we do not see in the Word, but it must be right, for the other things
he spoke were true."

Be not deceived, for the deceiver will first work to gain the hearts of many and then shall
bring forth his insidious doctrines. You cannot discern those who are of Me and those
who are not of Me when they start to preach. But seek Me constantly, and then when
these doctrines are brought out, you shall have a witness in your heart that these are
not of Me. Fear not, for I have warned you. Many will be deceived, but if you walk in
holiness and uprightness before the Lord, your eyes shall be opened, and the Lord will
protect you. If you will constantly look unto the Lord, you will know when the doctrine
changes, and you will not be brought into it. If your heart is right, I will keep you, and if
you will look constantly to Me, I will uphold you.

The minister of righteousness shall be on this wise: his life shall agree with the Word,
and his lips shall give forth that which is wholly true, and it will be no mixture. When the
mixture appears, then you will know he is not a minister of righteousness. The deceivers
speak first the truth and then error to cover their own sins, which they love. Therefore, I
exhort and command you to study the Scriptures relative to seducing spirits, for this is
one of the great dangers of these last days.

I desire you to be firmly established in My Word, and not in the personalities of men,
that you will not be moved as so many shall be moved. I would keep you in the paths of
righteousness. Take heed to yourselves, and follow not the seducing spirits that are
already manifesting themselves. Diligently inquire of Me when you hear something that
you have not seen in the Word, and do not hold people's persons in admiration, for it is
by this very method that Satan will hold many of My people.

The Way of Triumph

I have come that you might have life and have it more abundantly, that you may triumph
where I triumphed. On the cross I triumphed over all the powers of Satan, and I have
called you to walk the same path. It is when your life is on the cross that you shall know
the victory that I have experienced. As you are on the cross and seated in Me, then you
shall know the power of the resurrection. When I come in My glory, the principalities and
powers in the heavenly places shall be broken. Fret not, for I have given you power
whereby you may tread down the powers of darkness and come forth victoriously. It
was on the cross that I triumphed over all the powers of the enemy. My life shall flow
through you as you enter into these precious truths. Look unto Me, and appropriate My
life. As your eyes and desires are toward Me, and you know what it is to be crucified
with Me, then you shall live, and your anointing shall increase. It was not in My life that I
walked upon the earth, but it was in My life when I was upon the cross that I openly
spoiled principalities and powers (Colossians 2:15). I am showing you truth that shall
cause you to overcome, to have power over the wicked one-truth that will liberate you
and those around you. You shall know also the fellowship of My sufferings. There is no
other way whereby you may partake of this heavenly glory and reign with Me. "If we
suffer, we shall reign with Him" (II Timothy 2:12 KJV). I desire to make these truths real
within you. As you keep them before you, you will liberate many who are in bondage.
You will have revelations of those in darkness and will have the keys to liberate the
captives. Many seek to liberate, but they have not the keys. Upon the cross continually
you will know the power of My resurrection that you may also partake of My glory. As
you are willing to walk with Me and rejoice in your sufferings, you shall partake of My
glory. Look unto Me, for ye have need of power to overcome the wicked one and the
bondage in other lives.

If you will indeed judge yourself, you shall not be judged 0 Corinthians 11:31). As you
seek My face and desire to be cleansed by Me in all truth and sincerity of heart, I will
judge you in the secret place, and the things that are in the secret place of your heart
shall not be made manifest to others. I will do it in the secret place, and no man shall
know it, and the shame that shall be seen on many faces shall not be seen on your
face. Therefore, in love and mercy I am instructing you, and, therefore, have I said that
if a man judge himself, he shall not be judged. It is not My good pleasure that the shame
of My people be seen by all. How can I judge the world if I judge not first My own
house? Hearken unto these things I am telling you. If you will not hearken to Me, your
shame shall be evident to all.

God's Part and Our Part

I would have you consider My life on earth-the anointing upon Me was great. Yet the
temptations were great on every side, in one form and then in another, offering Me first
the glory of the kingdoms of the earth, and then reviling and persecuting Me. There will
be great glory given to My people, and yet the temptations shall be intensified from
every side. Think not that with the glory there shall be no temptations or persecutions.
The glory to My church shall be great, and so shall the temptations from the enemy to
turn My people from My paths. I am warning you that when the glory shall be
manifested, the temptations shall be great, until very few that start shall finish. First,
there shall be offered them great worldly possessions, and then great revilings and
unbelief.

Consider your Lord, that as He walked, so it shall be for you. There shall be need of
great intensity of purpose. At times, everyone shall rise up against you, simply to turn
you from the course that I would put you on. It is written of Me that I set My face as a
flint to go the direction My Father had prescribed for Me Isaiah 50:7). If you will finish
the course the Lord has laid down for you, you will have to set your face as a flint with
great determination-you must walk in the course laid down for you. Many of your loved
ones and those who follow with you shall persuade you and try to turn you from the
course. With many words that seem right in the natural will they speak to you. Did not
Christ rebuke Peter, who would turn Him from the course God had prescribed?
(Matthew 16:22, 23)

Understand these two things and meditate upon them solemnly: the persecution and the
darkness shall be as great as the glory, in order to try to turn the elect and the anointed
ones from the path the Lord has laid down for them. Many shall start, but few shall be
able to finish because of the greatness of grace that shall be needed to be able to
endure unto the end. The temptation and persecution of your Lord was continuous. He
was tempted by Satan in many forms throughout His entire life, and even on the cross
when the ungodly cried out, "If thou be the Christ, come down from the cross." Think not
that there shall be a time of no persecution, for it shall be from the time of your anointing
unto the end-difficulties and great persecution to the end. The Lord must prepare you to
be an overcomer in all things, that you may be able to finish the course. The
persecution shall increase, even as the anointing shall increase.

In paths of judgment and righteousness shall the Lord God lead His people and bring
them into that place which He has chosen for them. For the Lord has chosen a place for
His people, a place of righteousness and holiness where He shall encamp round about
them, and all who will be led of the Lord shall be brought into this holy place, for the
Lord delights to dwell in His people and to manifest Himself through His people. The
holiness of the Lord shall be manifested through his people. Let the Lord lead you in
difficult places. He led His people of old through the place where no man dwelt, where
no man had passed through- in a place of great danger, and in the shadow of death.
The Lord will indeed lead His people through such places, and yet He will bring them
out into a place of great glory. Understand that the way toward the glory is fraught with
great danger, and many shall fall to the right or to the left; many shall camp on lesser
ground, but the Lord has a place of holiness, and no unclean things shall dwell among
His people.

Put your trust in Him, and He will bring you into a place of holiness. He desires to bring
His people into great glory, the like of which has never been seen: what the Lord will do
for those who put their trust in Him. It is a place of darkness and great danger that
separates His people into the place He would have them walk in. He will protect them
from the voices that would turn them from His path. He will bring them through the dark
places, and through the treacherous paths, out into the light of His glory. He will rejoice
greatly over His beloved, and cause you to be filled with joy unspeakable. He seeks to
lead His people into a new place of grace and glory where He will indeed encamp
among them. Put your trust in Him, and He will surely bring you into this new place.

Fear not the days to come, but fear this only: that you shall walk in a manner pleasing to
the Lord. In this time I am ordering and setting up My church, and it shall indeed be
pure, without spot or wrinkle. I will do a work in My beloved that has not been seen
since the foundation of the world. I have shown you these things that you may seek the
Lord diligently with all your heart, and that you may be a preserver of His people.

Run not to this one nor to that one, for the Lord has so ordained that salvation is in Him,
and in Him alone. You shall not turn to this shepherd, or to that one; for there shall be a
great scattering upon the earth. Therefore, look unto Him, for He will indeed make these
things clear to you. You shall not look here nor there, for wells that once had water shall
be no more. But, as you diligently seek Him, He shall increase your strength and your
faith that He may be able to prepare you for this time that is coming.

The truths that I have revealed to you must become a part of you, not just an
experience, but a part of your very nature. Is it not written that I demand truth in the
inward parts? It is the truth of the Lord expressed in your very being that shall hold you.
Many shall experience the truth, but the truth must become a part of you-your very life.
As men and women look upon you, they will hear not only the voice, but see the
expression of the truth. Many shall be overcome because they are not constant in My
ways, and because they have not permitted the truths to become part of them. I am
showing you these truths that you may be prepared and having done all, to stand.



                             False Man-child Coming Now



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dWeUNoR30_0




                           Todd Bentley Exposed
                          Todd Bentley Marries His Mistress

                      Todd Bentley’s Mistress, Jessa, Revealed

       Todd Bentley Quits Ministry After "Unhealthy Relationship" Revealed

                             Three Lessons from Lakeland



                     Todd Bentley Exposed on Nightline - Part 1

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AW2kaRP3EtI



                     Todd Bentley Exposed on Nightline - Part 2

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7LJICxXnvlw



              An Insider's Warning - Lakeland - True or False Revival?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B-Y5R_raf6M



                      The Needed Closure on Todd Bentley

 (Note from Jan: Pastor Chris Elrod, Sr. Pastor, Compass Point Church, Lakeland,
Florida, sums up the Todd Bentley scenario. None of us who were sounding warnings
   take delight in this closure. Yet we are relieved that fewer will now be harmed by
                        another "counterfeit revival." - Jan Markell)

As I was on my way home from South Carolina last Thursday night, I got "the call." My
friend and fellow Lakeland pastor let me know that the news about Todd Bentley -- the
 news that had circulated around Lakeland for weeks -- was finally about to break. For
months it had been rumor with very little hard facts to back it up. Local church leaders
  had been hearing things about Todd and Ignited Church that caused us to question
                        even more the validity of the "revival."

Then the truth began to come out bit by bit, first to Lakeland and then to the world, and
now Todd's wife was in Canada getting help while he was "floating around" the United
States trying to get his head together. Yes, Todd was legally separating from his wife.
  Yes, there was another woman involved. Yes, this was not the first time Todd had
                           been involved with another woman.

Yes, Todd and Ignited Church had failed to address concerns -- many being voiced by
their own denomination and people who support such outpourings -- about the heresy
 being preached and displayed at the "revival." Yes, there was not one single medical
            document to prove that any healing had actually taken place.

   As the fallout continues and more facts are beginning to emerge about everyone
involved with this mess, I have begun to ask myself some pretty hard questions. Did I
                                 handle this correctly?

When the first news began to break around here about Todd, healings, and the revival,
I went to see it for myself. In all, I attended four separate "revival" meetings over a two-
month period. I also watched countless hours of the events on the Internet. I witnessed
 Todd hollering "BAM" a lot. I witnessed "verification teams" in the parking lot carefully
  choosing people deemed candidates for "healing" while turning many others down. I
watched ushers push ill children away from the stage area because they had not been
                                  preapproved for "healing."

 I heard stories about pixie-dust-spreading angels and conversations with the Apostles
in some abstract heavenly cabin. I saw leg drops, high kicks, head punches, and every
    other Wrestlemania cliche under the sun. I heard anonymous crazy stories about
   people being healed and others being raised from the dead. I heard and saw many
   strange things -- but nothing that even remotely kept with sound doctrine. Every
biblical-discerning bone in my body showed me that there was nothing going on at the
                     "revival" that was in keeping with God's Word.

    I began to speak out against the revival, Todd, and Ignited Church, to our people.
  Mainly it was through our Journey Groups, one-on-one conversations, phone calls,
and e-mails. However, I was advised by several other pastors not to speak out against
it publicly because "I might be speaking against something that God is actually doing"
   (I wasn't questioning God -- I was questioning Todd). I never addressed it from the
 pulpit because our podcast is heard by hundreds of people all over the world. I never
              blogged about it because I get a 1,000+ hits on a normal day.

 I dodged the questions about the revival in recent radio interviews I did in other parts
  of the United States. Finally, I refused to answer the hundreds of e-mails I got about
 the "revival" from other folks all over the world. In essence, I protected my flock from
   the three-ring circus and hoopla but did nothing to protect the Body of Christ as a
                                           whole.

   Hindsight they say is 20/20. It now turns out that all of the rumors were true. It now
 turns out that the scriptural discernment was correct. It now turns out that this was the
  same craziness without accountability that the leadership of the sponsoring church is
known for. The three-ring circus has been packed up, the tents have been taken down,
   and the moral failure has been announced. Everyone involved is pushing back, and
        thousands of hurting people are left questioning God and their salvation.

  The question that I now have to ask myself and the question that will haunt me for
  quite a while is this. Did I sit on the sidelines while the playing field burned? Should
 have I blogged about it and spoken out about it publicly -- done more to get the word
 out to the rest of the world that this whole thing was about Todd and not God? I took
    care of my own house -- but should I have done more to take care of the entire
                                        neighborhood?

 Charismatic leader Dutch Sheets also humbled himself stating, "My assignment from
the Lord is to repent on behalf of the leadership of the Charismatic Body of Christ. We
  have failed the Lord and His people in many ways. We must repent if we are to be
trusted in the future. We, the leaders of the Charismatic community, have operated in
an extremely low level of discernment. Frankly, we often don't even try to discern. We
assume a person's credibility based on gifts, charisma, whether they can prophesy, or
                                     work a miracle."

   NOTE FROM JAN: I am glad that these two leaders have been brave enough to
 speak out. Let's hope that many other leaders will follow in their steps and lead their
        followers to test ALL things and not just follow every wind of doctrine.
                    Remember to pray for Todd and his family.

My two hour program on this issue is posted at my "Radio Archives" for July 19, 2008.
  Numerous guests spoke into the issue, long before all the details came out. For
                        podcasting information, click here.



                         KUNDALINI WARNING - Urgent
                                 Andrew Strom 1/20/10

 I just saw the video of Rick Joyner announcing that Todd Bentley is back ministering
   every night at Morningstar in North Carolina and now they have so-called "revival"
manifestations eerily similar to Lakeland. They also announced that they are streaming
     these big meetings every night on their new TV channel - and they are greatly
                                promoting the whole thing.

   Now I am a tongues-speaking Pentecostal myself - but can I ask a simple question
  here please? What kind of "spirit" was it operating in the Lakeland revival - when the
 leader and main focal-point of the meetings (Todd Bentley) was having an adulterous
affair behind the scenes? Was it truly the "Holy" Spirit that was anointing something so
  sensual and unholy? And now that Todd divorced his wife and married his mistress -
are we supposed to welcome him back and this "anointing" with him? What is going on
here? Rick Joyner has been warned very specifically by high-level ministries not to do
what he is doing now - bringing Todd Bentley back into the limelight. And yet it seems
          he does not care. Apparently the "manifestations" are all that matter.

 So what exactly are these 'manifestations' if they are seemingly at home in such an
  unholy environment? Are they from God at all? (I am talking here about the violent
 "jerking", uncontrollable laughter, bodily contortions, drunkenness, 'portals', strange
  "angel" encounters, etc.) Why do we not see such an 'anointing' in the Bible? Why
   aren't Jesus or the apostles promoting these manifestations if they really are true
 Revival? Why instead do we see these things all the way through the New Age and
Hinduism, etc? Do we not realize that many false religions have their own version of
 "laying on of hands" that results in these very types of manifestations? This 'spirit' is
not in the Bible - but it is all the way through Kundalini-type Hinduism! Don't you think
                                     this should alarm us?

                                WHAT is KUNDALINI?

 If you search for Kundalini and Shakti on the Internet, you will find that multitudes of
      people in the New Age and Eastern religions still experience these powerful
     manifestations. Often this is with the help of a Guru, who touches them on the
            forehead so that they can experience a "Kundalini Awakening".
                      As researcher Robert Walker wrote in 1995:

 "The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'. At these meetings
  devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of
     the hand, often to the forehead, by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or
  divine touch. The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini. After a
 period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake,
    jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal
    noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called
'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during
   this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and
           become inert physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness..."

                   And as the guru Shri Yogãnandji Mahãrãja wrote:

"When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep
without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with
      fear or see frightening visions. the Kundalini Shakti has become active."

In China there is a popular Kundalini-type movement called 'Qigong'. When a Chinese
    Qigong spiritual master spoke in the USA in 1991, the San Francisco Chronicle
reported that many in the crowd began to experience "spontaneous movements". The
  master told his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some strong
  physical sensations - or start laughing or crying. Don't worry. This is quite normal."

  When you see videos of these "kriyas" or other Kundalini-type manifestations, you
would often swear that you are watching a modern "Impartation"-type church meeting.
 (And I say this as someone who believes strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I just
    don't believe in "alien" anointings infiltrating the Body of Christ! There is a big
                 difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit).

  Since 1993-4, I believe a foreign spirit has been allowed to invade the church - first
     through Rodney Howard-Browne's ministry - then Toronto, then the Prophetic
   movement (which I was part of at the time) and on into Lakeland and many other
    ministries and movements. I urge people now to "test the spirits" just as we are
commanded to in Scripture. Do not let just anyone lay hands on you. This is a powerful
  spirit and it has the backing of a lot of big-name ministries. In fact, these men and
women are the very ones responsible for allowing it to spread right through the body of
            Christ. And one day they will be answerable to God for doing so.

 We are specifically warned in the Bible that the Last Days will be a time of "seducing
 spirits," false prophets, 'lying signs and wonders,' and that we always need to watch
for "angels of light" masquerading as the real thing. Why does the modern church not
 take these warnings seriously? Aren't we living in the very days that the Bible warns
                                           about?
Right now I need to do something that I have never done in such a way before. I have
never before published a list of ministries or movements to watch out for. But this time
 I have to. This sickness has gone on long enough. I urge you to cut yourself off from
the following ministries and their tainted "anointings" my friends. Even though some of
these people say "good things" at times, it is simply not worth having any involvement
   with them due to the tainted anointing that they endorse or minister in themselves.
                                      Here is the list-

                                      (1) Todd Bentley.
           (2) Rodney Howard Browne - the so-called "Holy Ghost Bartender."
            (2) Rick Joyner or anyone connected with Morningstar Ministries.
          (3) John Arnott & any connected with TACF (The "Toronto Blessing").
    (4) Peter Wagner of the 'New Apostolic Reformation' who claims to be head of a
worldwide network of 'apostles' - who publicly endorsed Lakeland and will soon preach
               at Toronto TACF alongside other "false anointing" advocates.
 (5) Mike Bickle and IHOP Kansas City (-I lived nearby for over two years - and know
        how much they are into all this stuff. Mike Bickle promotes it in his book).
   (6) Bob Jones - the Kansas City prophet whose ministry is utterly tainted by it all.
                (7) Patricia King and anyone else from 'Extreme Prophetic.'
                  (8) John Crowder & anyone connected with "Sloshfest."
 (9) Bill Johnson of Bethel church, Redding - who says some good things but publicly
     endorsed Lakeland and promotes the "false anointing" very strongly behind the
                                            scenes.
(10) Heidi & Rolland Baker of IRIS Ministries - who do good work amongst the poor in
Mozambique - but who have also carried and promoted this tainted anointing for years.
  (11) Randy Clark, Wes & Stacey Campbell, and other key figures from the "Toronto
                                           blessing."
                   (12) The Elijah List - and almost anyone featured on it.

  Of course there are a huge number of lesser-known preachers and ministries who
     carry or endorse this Kundalini-type "anointing" around the world. But I have
concentrated here on the most influential that I know of. It really is an enormous issue
in the church. I urge anyone who is a supporter of any of the above ministries to really
 check them out thoroughly. If you find (as I have) that they carry or endorse this false
    Kundalini spirit in the church, then please stop supporting them in any way - and
                   whatever you do, don't let them "lay hands" on you!

  I am putting everything on the line to be "naming names" like this. But I believe it is
that serious. How on earth did we get to the point where "kriyas" just like Hinduism are
                            spreading through the church?

Please forward this email to everyone you know, blogs and boards, etc. These people
are trying to "relaunch" this whole thing right now. Help us get this warning out. To see
  a video showing "kriyas" and other Kundalini-type manifestations, please watch the
                                     following videos.

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QyW1UFzS2LY

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eaNiuRWHZrY

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                                    God bless you all!

                                      Andrew Strom.

                         REPLIES to "KUNDALINI WARNING"

                             5 replies/ comments are below:

                                        "D" writes:

I went to Lakeland 3 times. I was so drawn to go there. I really thought it was of God...
 I had so many supernatural experiences - to seeing a mystical Jesus with a third eye,
     angels talking to me, visions, being transported. I had one experience with my
  daughter being in the room and her experiencing it too. I was roaring like a lion, had
 gold dust and many other experiences. The worst thing that happened to me is that it
got sexual. This false Jesus was approaching me sexually and I fell into it. I still to this
   day do not understand how I could have been so deceived. I have been a Christian
 since the age of 16. I am 49 now... I fell right in... hook, line and sinker. When I came
     home that last visit I became aware it was demonic, and I was surrounded and
   covered with demons literally, it was so horrible, all that I went through, you cannot
      imagine... I was seeing demons and being touched sexually and tormentingly
  constantly.. it has been 1 1/2 years and I am still battling these demonic spirits. I cry
  out to the Lord everyday for total deliverance. It has been horrible. I have renounced
                and repented, but still fighting. How do we get free of this?

                                     SHERIE writes:

  I can testify that I was infested with this foul eastern spirit, the kundalini. I was in a
movement from 1992 - 2000 which had close links with the Toronto movement. From
  2000 - 2006 I joined a church with links to Bill Johnson. I was desperate for God to
move in my life and change situations and heal hurts and was very open to ministry - I
 had many in this movement touch my forehead and experienced the manifestations
 you describe - drunkenness, laughing and crying, shaking. I got dreams and visions
 and just before I left the structure (church) I had a vivid dream of a huge python that
  came through the back door and attached itself to my car, and also to rooms in my
             home. I was very disturbed and sought the Lord for an answer.
 It took about 6 months before I was delivered, but God brought a couple over my path
   who God had trained and had victory over spiritual entities. Every time I was in their
presence, I would get very anxious, and they would calmly pray for me and I could feel
darkness leaving and my sanity restored. It was only after 6 months of these episodes,
I was again in their presence and sensed a fight ensue in the Spirit. I was very anxious
         and fearful and could feel a huge snake in my spine - I was rigid and very
     uncomfortable - It felt as if this thing wanted to throttle me and rob me of my life. I
  called out to God and they quietly prayed - then I asked the Lady to pull this serpent
    out of my head - it felt as if it could exit near the top of my crown. She continued to
   pray and I got the word "kundalini " in my spirit and just commanded this thing by its
      name to go in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. I pled the blood as it was very
             frightening, and it left. I felt like a washed out rag, but I was free!

That was the last lime I had deliverance and my spiritual eyes have since opened and
  God has done a mighty work in me outside of the structure... Afterwards they were
 amazed and asked me what strange term I had used and where it came from - I had
 no idea except that it was God who gave me knowledge in that situation. Thank you
for the info that has made everything clear to me! Now have confirmation from where I
 was infected! May many of your readers heed the call of God to "come out and sever
   yourselves" from Babylon and its lies and deception and foul spirits, while there is
                                         time...

                                       LUCY writes:

    David Wilkerson also mentioned the kundalini spirit, and I researched it in late
October, after having attended the Fredericksburg (Virginia) Prayer Furnace at which
 Che Ahn ministered. There, I saw many of the manifestations you mention: hopping
and jumping during "worship", falling backward at Che Ahn's touch, extreme jerkiness
 in several cases. Very uncomfortable with this, I came home and watched (my first
        time ever) videos of Todd Bentley. Needless to say, I was appalled...

                                      SARAH writes:

  I'm just about in tears over all of this... May and I watched the very first nights of the
  recent "outpouring of the Holy Spirit" on the IHOP webstream and boy, did that turn
   sour fast. Aside from the singing on the first night, everything was just messed up.
    AHH! It's breaking my heart! How many people do we know and love in KC?! I've
  watched my beloved siblings laugh uncontrollably, jerk as though sick, stumble and
      speak as though drunk, and "sing in tongues" in complete chaos and without
   interpretation. I've raised the issue among friends of being "drunk in the Spirit" and
 even though I prove over and over that God is for self-control, which they agree with,
 they continue to act like drunken fools! (See Titus 1:8 and 2:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7
which compared in the NKJV and NIV relates self-control with being sober, pointing to
   the fact that the Holy Spirit is not one who takes delight in being drunk at all, but in
being sober-minded - fruit of the Spirit, what? Drunkenness is the complete opposite of
being filled with the Holy Spirit! For sober-mindedness is a filling of Him!; 1 Peter 1:13,
                                       4:7, and 5:8 ...

                                    BRENDA writes:

 A very dear friend of mine who has been my prayer partner for years were lured into
 the enemy's web of deception about many of the ministries and manifestations that
    you spoke about. After reading and listening to your web broadcasts we had a
 powerful prayer session repenting, renouncing, and commanding any spirit that we
  had picked up from these false prophets/doctrines of demons, etc. to go from us in
 Jesus' name. We broke all kinds of things off of us. Most of it was deep repentance
    and renouncing - thank you for exposing the enemy and his tactics and all the
                deception that the church body has fallen deeply into...

                                   ANDREW STROM:

 Yes - if you have had "hands laid" or done "soaking prayer" under any of these kinds
of ministries, it is very important to RENOUNCE (from the very depths of your being in
     Jesus' name) and also COMMAND OUT these 'kundalini' spirits or any other
 "anointing" that you have received. Remember, you must VIOLENTLY EXPEL these
              things in the name of JESUS. Be FREE in His mighty name!

 I truly wonder what God is going to do to those ministries who have been spreading
  this alien spirit right through the Body of Christ. Truly, Judgment must begin "at the
                                       house of God."



                            False Man-child Coming Now

                    False Man-child Coming Now
                                Garrett Crawford - 8/19/08
                                  (David's notes in red)
I arrived at a gym to attend basketball camp. I wanted to improve my skills and
become a better player. There were two different groups in this gym. The one to the
left were the hotshots and very skilled players. They were not practicing on their skills;
rather, they were playing five-on-five, showcasing their fancy moves. I really wanted to
join this camp because it looked more fun and exciting. I sat down on the bleachers
with about 20-30 others waiting to get in the game. But as I watched, I realized that
this game did not suit me; I was not as fancy as these players. I noticed that over to
the right of the gym was another group of guys. They were very orderly and lined up
into five rows of five each. Each had a ball and they were dribbling in unison. They
were not competing against one another and they all looked the same. That is when I
noticed that maybe I had made a bad choice wanting to play with the group on the left.
(The sects of Christianity are playing their competitive games, attempting to outdo one
another in their false show. They are placed on the left as the goats that are stubborn
and self-willed. Those on the right who follow Christ in truth are not competing or
putting on a show but seek to be skillful in the work as they become one in unison. The
goal is for all to make the goal not to beat someone else out as the world. They look
the same because they have one goal: to walk as Jesus walked.)
During the game which was being played by the men on the left, all kinds of important
people were coming to watch it. Many of which were famous coaches and their wives.
I recall looking out the window and seeing a lot of expensive cars pull up and I saw a
group of women walking thru the parking lot to the gym. Someone said that those were
the wives of the Kansas City Chiefs coaches. Many were impressed by the sight of
them and it only added allure and excitement to what was taking place in the gym.
(The Kansas City false revival leaders have promoted this false third wave movement
of goats who are putting on an impressive show to deceive the people on the left. A
false apostolic movement had anointed and appointed Todd Bentley just before the
world discovered his corrupt life and fake miracles. In their attempts to join in his fame
they were discovered to not have any discernment or to be apostles, either. This is just
one of the many sects of the false prophets and apostles they will call the man-child.
Robert Henderson, of this apostolic movement, spoke of bringing the whole U.S. under
Dutch Sheets, C Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce and himself. Dutch Sheets said
(parentheses mine), "Our ministry in Colorado Springs, along with many others I’m
sure, has been privileged by God to help birth this (false man-child). We were visited
by the Holy Spirit (of the false revival) June 15th and asked to host His Presence 24/7
for 90 days, just as Obed-edom did the Ark of the Covenant, also called 'the Ark of His
Presence' (see 2 Samuel 6:10-11). We have suspended everything else to host Him–
no classes, no preaching (even on Sundays), no programs—nothing but worship. It
has wrecked us! (Notice this word "wrecked" for reference below.) His presence has
been so overwhelming at times in our gatherings that none of us knows what to do.
We are being ruined for 'normal' Christianity." Robert also said on the video that the
“impartation” they would receive if they did this could be passed on to the nations
(false anointing of the forth wave.)
As the game went on, a 20-something man came in and sat behind me. We started a
conversation and it led to my faith and Jesus Christ. I gave him a testimony and he
was very impressed. I told him how the Lord had saved me from some terrible wreck
or something. Although he himself was a heathen, he was smiling big and telling
others around me what the Lord did for me. (Those who do not join the movement on
the left, realizing it to be false, will have a great testimony and be saved from a terrible
wreck that comes to all those anointed with the false revival spirits. "Wrecked" is a
term the false revivalists use to mean good for nothing but “soaking”in the false spirits
of this destructive movement.)
After I witnessed to him, I lost all passion to play in the game and I realized that my
sole purpose for being there was to witness to that man. So once I had accomplished
this, I got up and left the gym. I was walking around the halls of what I soon realized
was my childhood elementary school. I was trying to find the exit but everything had
changed since I was there last and I was having trouble finding the exit. I soon
managed to make it outside and I began to walk away from the school. (We must seek
diligently to "come out from among" the elementary teachings and show of false
ways and spirits of those infected by the False Revival movement.)
As I was standing some way off I heard police sirens. I quickly looked around and
noticed that there was a very big black limousine (the way of darkness and prosperity)
heading to the school, followed by a motorcade of cops and security. I was really
curious who was in there. I assumed it was more elite or dignitaries heading to the
school to watch the game. Then I heard a lot of commotion and excitement filled the
air. I heard a voice from somewhere say, “It’s Jesus! He’s come back!” I was amazed.
I thought to myself this must be the second coming! (The False Christ, or "anointed" in
Greek, is coming now in a fourth wave to the False Revival movement. This is a false
man-child movement that will compete with the real Man-child, even as Pharaoh’s
magicians and Korah, Dathan, and Abiram did Moses. Also, those sorcerers who
opposed the apostles in Acts with signs and wonders are a type of this -- Acts 8:9-24;
13:3-12.)
I quickly ran back to the school and as I was running I saw a secret service agent pull
in behind me and get out of his black SUV and say, “Hurry and secure Jesus; there is
a man running toward him.” He was talking about me, but I ran faster to the door of the
building. When I opened the door I saw something out of the scene from a Hollywood
award show and the madness that ensues on the red carpet. Flash bulbs were
everywhere; reporters were frantically trying position themselves around the room. I
heard commotion, and nervous excitement filled the air. I looked directly across the
room to a platform and I saw him. It was “Jesus.” (The world has shown every kind of
attention and respect to the false leaders of Christianity, proving they are not who they
say they are. {Jn.15:18} If the world hateth you, ye know that it hath hated me
before [it hated] you. {19} If ye were of the world, the world would love its own:
but because ye are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore
the world hateth you. The world beast will not, as the secret service agent did, seek
the protection of the true Jesus when they have sought His death in the past. Even the
apostate church will hate Jesus. {Jn.15:25} But [this cometh to pass], that the word
may be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. They
will love a false man-child every time because they love the glory of men. {Jn.5:43} I
am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in
his own name, him ye will receive. {44} How can ye believe, who receive glory
one of another, and the glory that [cometh] from the only God ye seek not?)
I stared at him in bewilderment, and he stared back at me across the room. I was
shocked by his appearance. He did not appear like what you would commonly
perceive him to be. He did not look Jewish and did not have any Middle Eastern
features. (If this Jesus doesn’t look like THE Jesus, then he has not "put on the Lord
Jesus Christ" [Rom.13:14] or been "transformed into the same image" [2
Cor.3:18]. Jesus was the Man-child and was called an Apostle, even as the false
Christs who imitate Him.) He was Latin or Italian, with long sleek straight black hair
(submission to darkness - 1 Cor.11). He was very attractive and I heard some women
say, “He’s so handsome!” (God didn't choose Jesus or the Man-child to have any
fleshly enticement. {Isa.53:2} For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as
a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we see
him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.)
He was being shuffled off the platform to a door on the right that went somewhere; I
assumed it was to a news conference to show him to the world. He looked into the
crowd and said, "Hurry, I need an assistant!" He pointed to a young Christian that I
knew and said, "Come with me!" That is when he and his entourage rushed through
the door to the awaiting world outside. All the media and reporters followed them out
this door and soon the room was pretty much empty and quiet. It looked like the
morning after a New Year's Eve party, with garbage and paper lying on the ground.
(The New Year's Eveparty reminds us of the "drunk in the spirit" lie foisted upon the
false revivalists and the party when the golden calf was unveiled. Jesus and His
disciples were nothing to look at and sought to elude the limelight, preferring to give
glory only to God. This seeking fame and putting on a show for the world is the
signature of the False Revival movement and its apostate "apostles." {2 Cor.11:13}
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into
apostles of Christ. {14} And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an
angel of light. {15} It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion
themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their
works. The harlot church will be those who continue to follow these false apostles or
false man-childs. Welcome to the "last days," folks. {2 Tim.3:1} But know this, that
in the last days grievous times shall come. {2} For men shall be lovers of self,
lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers ... {5} holding a form of godliness, but
having denied the power thereof: from these also turn away. {6} For of these are
they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women (sects of Christianity)
laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, {7} ever learning, and never able to
come to the knowledge of the truth. {8} And even as Jannes and Jambres
withstood Moses, so do these also withstand the truth. Men corrupted in mind,
reprobate concerning the faith. {9} But they shall proceed no further. For their
folly shall be evident unto all men, as theirs also came to be. ... {13} But evil men
and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
Jannes and Jambres went a step beyond the third wave fakery; they actually did lying
signs and wonders, which confirm false men and their false word. Pray that God help
you to see the wolves under the sheep’s false exterior.)
As I was thinking on what I had seen, the back door flew open and I quickly turned
around. There in the doorway stood a very big and hairy beast, as big as a buffalo. He
had authority and power and I watched as he marched in the room and began giving
orders to minions that were running around and doing important tasks. He had a plan;
he was making sure that it would go off without a hitch. I came to realize that this beast
was in total control and he was the one that orchestrated the events of the false
messiah showing himself to the world just minutes earlier! The Jesus I had seen
earlier was just a decoy! He was not really Jesus. The beast was tricking the world to
receive this Messiah and then they would receive the beast behind the scenes without
even knowing it! As I watched this creature in this “war room” giving orders and
planning, I realized the size and scope of this deception! No one knew what was taking
place in this room; they had all left earlier with the false messiah. I was astonished in
what I was seeing; the evil plan of this beast was deceiving the whole world. (The
beast from the bottomless pit rules the harlot and her false man-child. She comes in
riding upon the beast but will soon be thrown down and burned. Egypt resisted the true
Man-child, Moses, who was sent to set the spiritual man free, because they respected
Jannes' and Jambres' false signs and leadership. In this way the Egyptian beast ruled
through these false apostles.
I kept watching this beastly creature and noticed many things about him. When I first
saw him he had two heads. The one on the left was skinnier and taller, like it had less
importance. (This is the corporate false prophet who rules the religious people for the
beast, being a member of his body and having his nature.) The one on the right was
large, broad and round. The orders seem to come from this head. (This is the
corporate governmental beast who uses the false prophet to rule.) After time I only
saw one head -- the large broad one. (When the beast has overcome he will not need
the false prophet and their harlot system any more and will devour them with fire.)
After some time I found myself in a backroom that was outside the beast’s war room.
He walked in there and shut the door behind him and was addressing some people in
there. He was revealing his plan clearer to this select group. That is when I saw him
take off his head and there was a human head underneath it. It was the face of
someone I have seen before: the lead singer of a satanic rock group called Korn. He
was laughing hysterically and taking pride in the plan that was underway. (Their true
satanic nature will be revealed once the trap for the apostates is sprung and the
Church has been cleansed of the sons of perdition. {2 Thes.2:8} And then shall be
revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his
mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; {9} [even he],
whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and
lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11}
And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should
believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but
had pleasure in unrighteousness.)
All of the false leadership of Christianity is being bought out by the beast government.
See this article and those on the Kansas City Prophets movement and Todd Bentley.
Also read Beware of the False Man-child Ministers and more witnesses of the true
man-child.

                     Bible Code Links
                      http://exodus2006.com/Fab3/Bentley1.htm
                      http://exodus2006.com/Fab3/Bentley2.htm




Saturday, March 07, 2009
Todd Bentley marries woman whom he had extramarital affair with

Those who have been following the misadventures of Canadian evangelist Todd Bentley may be interested to
know that he remarried a few days ago.

Mr. Bentley has married the former Jessa Hasbrook, a former intern for his ministry. Last summer, his
internationally famous revival campaign in Lakeland, Florida collapsed when it was revelead that he and Jessa
had begun an "emotional affair". Charismatic leaders C. Peter Wagner and Robert Ricciardelli, however, have
reported that the affair was apparently sexual. Mr. Ricciardelli, furthermore, has indicated that this affair,
whatever type it was, began in January of last year, which would place it well before Mr. Bentley announced
that he was separating from his wife Shonnah. This is also well before Mr. Bentley brought Shonnah Bentley
and his kids to Lakeland to show them to an international T.V. audience. Shonnah Bentley even preached in a
local church to promote her husband's revival.

(Even non-contested divorces in British Columbia take at least two to five months to process. If we work
backwards, it appears that Todd and Jessa Bentley could have wound up marrying as quickly as the day after
Todd Bentley's divorce paperwork arrived in the mail from Canada. A five month delay until now would place
the start of everything back around last November, which, interestingly, was around the same time that
Shonnah Bentley and her mom Val Andres, in control of the remnant of the Fresh Fire board, issued the
statement on behalf of the board that Todd was committing "adultery", and castigated the evangelist at some
length.)

Readers may recall that I reported on The Shotgun last fall that Shonnah Bentley has a lifelong disability after
suffering cancer as a teen:

I wrote:

Mr. Bentley must realize that if, he divorces his current wife in favor of a trophy wife, there will be speculation in
the minds of some of his Internet and Christian media critics that one of the reasons that he is getting rid of
Shonnah is because her disability embarrasses him—and moreover, that his theology does not work with a
wife hobbling along at his side.

There are several pictures and videos of Jessa on the Internet now. With all due respect to Shonnah Bentley
(as I do not like to make such comparisons in print), the new Jessa Bentley is certainly a "trophy wife" for the
evangelist. She is significantly younger than Todd Bentley, pretty, and by all indications, completely able
bodied. I do not think that Mr. Bentley was thinking of Jessa's spiritual gifts, skills, training or knowledge, when
he asked for her hand. To my knowledge, Jessa has never preached, ministered in faith-healing as Mr. Bentley
has, or done anything to indicate that she can significantly help her new husband in his work. (Shonnah Bentley
has. Not that it matters to Mr. Bentley now, though.)

Watch for the Christian press, if they are on the ball, to point this out. Hopefully, with side-by-side photos of
both Mrs. Bentleys.

This is a fait accompli presented to Rick Joyner, the U.S. Christian evangelist who has yet to begin "restoring"
Mr. Bentley to ministry. Mr. Bentley is saying to Mr. Joyner. "Look, buddy, I'm marrying this woman, and
whatever advice you may have to the contrary based on the Bible or your educated wisdom, is beside the
point." Very conservative Christians (which include some charismatics) believe that remarriage while one's first
spouse in alive is proscribed by the Bible, so it will be interesting to see what kind of arguments that Joyner and
Mr. Bentley can advance here. I don't think that arguing something like "I no longer love my first wife, but I love
this prettier, able-bodied and younger woman who doesn't have the maturity (spiritually or emotionally) to hold
me accountable to God's standards (as a husband and evangelist) in the same way that Shonnah can. So,
that's why I married Jessa." will work well for Mr. Bentley. Nevertheless he will try.

Readers of Mr. Bentley's autobiography, Journey Into the Miraculous, will also recall a vision that Mr. Bentley
had before his marriage that I've discussed in the Shotgun before. You may recall that he claims in his
autobiography that he received a special message from the Lord that he was to marry Shonnah Andres...which
he did. He wrote:

“…the Lord had actually shown me an open vision of Shonnah. It was my first open-eyed vision. I was in my
living room and my fireplace opened up, kind of like a TV screen, and I saw us embracing in a wheat field that
was ready for harvest. We were both weeping and I was wearing a tux and she was wearing a wedding dress.
As the vision unfolded, her friend Roswetta (who was now my friend) was talking with me in the living room
about Shonnah. I described the open vision to her as it happened. The presence of the Lord fell and we both
wept. Roswetta said, ‘I can’t see it but I can feel goose bumps.’ During this vision, I also received an anointing
of creativity, poetry and writing. In fact, I even received a three-page prophetic poem that I read at our wedding.
I still write prophetic poems for my wife to this day.”

Todd Bentley lied. He lied to get Shonnah Bentley to marry him. Otherwise, if he believed that heard from God,
in the same way that he "hears from God" on behalf of people wanting a healing touch or a message from the
Lord, he would have moved heaven and earth to stay with his first wife. Sadly, that is the point of view on this
that makes the most sense now.

Jessa Bentley--if Todd told you anything about a vision that he had where Jesus told him to marry you, please
save yourself some heartbreak and take it with the biggest grain of salt that you can find.

This poses an interesting question for Mr. Bentley's U.S. publisher Destiny Image Publishers. Are there any
whoppers in Mr. Bentley's three books? What will happen to Todd's account of his vision about marrying
Shonnah in future editions of his autobiography? Will it disappear in the same way that officials who displeased
Stalin started disappearing from pictures and photos as they were taken to the Gulag?

Sad, very sad. I wonder what Mr. Bentley can say when he fields inquiries from the press again.




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       Todd Bentley Quits Ministry After "Unhealthy
                 Relationship" Revealed
Fornication and divorce has been a common result among those who give and receive
the transference of demons through the Trojan Horse revival people.


                        Todd Bentley's divorce proceedings


From the Board of Directors - Fresh Fire Ministries - August 15, 2008

We wish to thank all of our friends and partners for the overwhelming flood of support
and compassion we have received as a ministry on behalf of Todd and Shonnah
Bentley. The many phone calls and emails of concern from people who genuinely love
the Bentleys and Fresh Fire Ministries have been a great encouragement to all of us
here during these past few days. In particular, the rallying of support and prayer for
Todd and Shonnah by prominent leaders within the Body of Christ has been a beautiful
indicator of the maturity and grace the Lord is bringing to his Bride.

We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire
Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley
has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member
of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and
advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of
Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his
personal life.

Note from David: Stepping down from the ministry by their leader seems to be a pretty
stiff penalty for merely an "emotional" relationship(???)




                     Three Lessons from Lakeland
                                David Servant - 9/14/08

Depending on where you live in the world and what interests you, you may or may not
have some knowledge of the recent revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida, led by
Canadian Todd Bentley. Although tens of thousands from around the world flocked to
Lakeland over a period of four months---mostly due to the reports of physical healings---
the meetings generated considerable controversy due to Bentley's questionable
doctrines, strange angelic encounters, unconventional style, and his exaggerated and
sometimes outright false reports of miracles.
Perhaps the crowning moment of the Lakeland meetings was June 23rd, when a
number of prominent charismatic "apostles" and "prophets" publicly endorsed Bentley's
ministry and the revival he was leading. Charisma magazine, in an article titled, Leaders
Commission Todd Bentley at "Lakeland Outpouring," stated that, "The special service
was billed by leaders as one of the greatest moments in revival history." One well-
known charismatic leader, an "apostle," described that event as "a commissioning
ceremony, complete with decrees and prophecies of going to higher levels, predictions
of Todd’s increasing world-wide influence and leading a world-wide revival, emphatic
and prolific endorsements of his character, etc." Peter Wagner, "presiding apostle" of
the International Coalition of Apostles, was one of those who endorsed Bentley that
evening, publicly stating, “This commissioning represents a powerful spiritual
transaction taking place in the invisible world. With this in mind, I take the apostolic
authority that God has given me and I decree to Todd Bentley, your power will increase,
your authority will increase, your favor will increase, your influence will increase, your
revelation will increase."

Just a few weeks later, however, it became apparent that all those "apostles" and
"prophets" may have made a little mistake. The Lakeland revival, already in decline by
then, unraveled with Bentley's announcement of his plans to divorce his wife and the
revelation of his inappropriate relationship with a woman on his ministry staff. Since
then, it has been learned that those revelations are just the tip of the iceberg.

One lesson we can all learn from Lakeland is that you can toss out the gospel found in
the Bible, kick and punch people who are seeking healing, regularly chat with angels
with names like "Winds of Change" and "Emma," act like a drunken fool, transfer your
anointing so that others can spread these blessings around the globe, repeatedly
exaggerate and lie, gain riches in the process, and be a successful minister in the U.S.
But whatever you do, don't divorce your wife. That could ruin you (at least temporarily).

Pushing all sarcasm aside, I think there are some very valid lessons that can be learned
from Lakeland. I'm going to do my best to be as gracious as I can, which at my current
level of sanctification will not be gracious enough for some. If you think I'm too critical,
my only defense is this: If you knew how critical I was tempted to be, you would be
proud of my self-restraint.

Lesson #1

The first and most important lesson is, "You will know them by their fruits" (Matt. 7:20).
Jesus told His followers this to keep them from being misled by false prophets and
teachers. Read within its immediate context, it is very clear that the kind of fruit Jesus
was speaking of was not the fruit of miracles or supernatural manifestations:

So then, you will know them [false prophets] by their fruits. Not everyone who says to
Me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My
Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we
not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name
perform many miracles?" And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from
Me, you who practice lawlessness" (Matt. 7:20-23).

This being so, Jesus must have been speaking of the fruit of holiness. Since Jesus'
warning was spoken within the context of His Sermon on the Mount, we are certainly
warranted to judge every minister's life by the standards found there. If Christians would
do that, they would quickly realize that there are thousands of false prophets and
teachers today who have infiltrated the church. I do not exaggerate. Long before the
revelations that ended his revival, those who applied the Matthew 5 through 7 test on
Todd Bentley were not deceived by him.

Additionally, if someone claims to be a minister of Christ, then what he teaches---the
fruit of his lips---should also be scrutinized in the light of Scripture. Those who tested
Todd Bentley's teachings with Scripture were not misled by him.

Many who were troubled by certain things they heard and witnessed at the Lakeland
meetings convinced themselves to overlook them, assuming that the healings were
proof of God's blessing and approbation. But Jesus solemnly warned that there will be
people who will prophesy, cast out demons and work miracles---all in His name---who
will hear Him say, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."
Does this have any application to Todd Bentley? Blushing Peter Wagner (who led the
June 23rd endorsement of Bentley) recently wrote to his constituency:

Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver....Todd has been removed
from public ministry until further notice...It has become clear that he indulged in periodic
drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna [his wife],
nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional
attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging
and kissing and holding hands. Enough said---maybe more details will be revealed
later---but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by
swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy.

According to the Bible that every Christian owns, no drunkard or immoral person will
inherit eternal life, and all liars will find themselves in the Lake of Fire (see 1 Cor. 6:9-
10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5; Rev. 21:8). Unless Todd Bentley repents and is truly born
again, he will be condemned at his judgment. But for now, he has been exposed to
everyone as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sadly, he will be considered by many to be an
anointed prophet with some personal issues who needs counseling before he is
restored once again to his anointed ministry, in spite of what the Bible clearly teaches.
This is tragic, and is only one more symptom of a much greater problem.

In any case, don't be misled by miracles. The antichrist will perform miracles, and that is
one reason the whole world will go after him. Look for holiness and obedience to Jesus'
commandments.

Lesson #2
A second lesson we can learn from Lakeland relates to the first. Since we should not
judge the validity of a minister or a meeting by miracles and supernatural
manifestations, can we thus conclude that every healing is of satanic origin that occurs
under the ministry of a someone whose fruit betrays him as being a false prophet? As
strange as it seems, the answer is "no." Here's the reason why: God honors His word,
and if He makes conditional promises, He will keep His promises to anyone who meets
His conditions, regardless of anything else.

For example, it is theoretically possible that a man could be genuinely born again in a
porn shop if he happened to read a gospel tract that was placed there. But because he
was born again in a porn shop, does that mean that God approves of everything (or
anything, for that matter) that goes on there? Obviously not.

By the same token, no one can deny that Jesus often told people whom He healed that
their faith healed them. And He made quite a few amazing promises that can certainly
be applied by those needing healing today. That being so, here is another question: If a
person gains faith to be healed in a meeting directed by a false prophet, will God deny
that person his healing for that reason? Certainly not.

Clearly, one of the main emphases of the Lakeland meetings was divine healing. Many
came for that reason (and many left the meetings very disappointed). Sadly, Bentley
used lies and exaggerated reports to build the faith of those who came seeking healing.
Nevertheless, some apparently had their faith encouraged and God healed them in
response to their faith. But those healing miracles were in no way a sign from God that
He was endorsing the messenger or anything else that occurred at the Lakeland
meetings. He was only honoring His promises---and nothing more.

One important addendum can be added to this second lesson.

If you are a truly God-called evangelist, it should bring you great joy to know that if God
will honor His Word spoken through a false prophet, then He will certainly honor it if
spoken through a true prophet! How tragic it is that, while false prophets sometimes use
God's Word to birth miracle-producing faith in people whom they then exploit, many of
God's true prophets keep quiet about divine healing. Perhaps they do so in order not to
be associated with the Todd Bentleys of the world today. I'm happy to report, however,
that there are thousands and thousands of genuine God-called evangelists around the
world who incorporate some degree of biblical and divine healing in their ministries.
They know what a valuable tool it is in helping them reach the lost with the gospel.
Divine healing draws people to listen to the gospel.

That being so, if you are a genuine God-called evangelist---who proclaims a biblical
gospel that calls people to repentance and a living faith---you have biblical reason to
expect that divine healing should be a part of your ministry. If you don't believe me, read
the book of Acts. An evangelist without the component of divine healing in his ministry is
like a carpenter without a hammer. He's missing a tool that could make him much more
successful.
Actually, divine healing is not something that is just limited to the ministries of genuine
evangelists. Jesus told us that one sign that will follow those who believe in Him is that
they will "lay hands on the sick, and they will recover" (Mark 16:18). When I was in
Nepal earlier this year, I heard from several reliable sources that the amazing growth of
Christianity in that Hindu nation has been due in large part to believers healing the sick.
It has become common belief in Nepal that, if you, or even one of your animals is sick,
the thing to do is call for a Christian to come and pray. God has honored His promise to
those who have taken Him at His Word. So let's all give ourselves a self-administered
kick in the rear in this regard and start laying hands on the sick and asking God to heal
them. Let's not shrink back from this only because of a few Todd Bentleys.

Lesson #3

The third and final lesson is this: "Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and
whoever humbles himself shall be exalted." This is a promise from God (see Matt.
23:12)

It was obviously not God who exalted Todd Bentley, because God doesn't exalt to
leadership positions within the body of Christ immoral, drunken deceivers who exalt
their imaginations above His Word. It was Todd Bentley who exalted himself by various
means of deception and with the help of others whom he deceived. But God is faithful to
His promises. He has certainly humbled Bentley before those who adored him, deplored
him, or ignored him. We pray that his humiliation leads to his repentance.

But Todd Bentley was not the only self-exalted minister whom God has recently
humbled. Everyone who stood on the platform on June 23rd to commission Todd
Bentley is included in that list, and especially those who claimed to speak for God as
they prophesied of the ever-increasing glories of the Lakeland "revival" and Bentley's
ministry. Some are now trying to save face as they back-peddle before their contributing
constituents, but they are only losing their credibility to an even greater degree.

What is the motive of those whom God has not called to be apostles or prophets yet
who claim to be apostles and prophets? It can only be pride and self-exaltation. For this
reason, thousands of ministers in North America and elsewhere are seeking titles and
joining organizations like the International Coalition of Apostles (where membership
dues are $650 per year). They want recognition, and so they play a more subtle version
of the child's game King of the Hill. It wasn't too long ago that these self-promoters were
vying only for the title of "bishop."

While the Bible makes it clear that apostles are God-called and God-sent persons who
make disciples and plant churches by the power of the Holy Spirit, so many of modern
"apostles" have never planted a single church. But they want to have authority over
churches in order to gain wealth and notoriety, and calling yourself an apostle seems to
be the first step in finding gullible pastors who will become a part of your "down-line."
May God have mercy.
Gentlemen, if any of you are reading this, the way to avoid further humiliation and
ultimate humiliation when you stand before Christ is to humble yourself, remembering
that "whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant" (Matt. 20:26).
God has sent all of you a merciful warning by means of the recent public humiliation of
Todd Bentley and the self-anointed "apostles" and "prophets" who publicly endorsed
him. You can back-peddle all you want; the fact remains that you publicly endorsed as a
man of God a wolf in sheep's clothing. There were many more who are guilty of this
besides just those of you who stood on the platform with Todd Bentley on June 23rd.
Those who exalt themselves God will humble. In fact, as so many of you have
exchanged His truth for lies---hoping to gain notoriety among your peers by your "new
revelations"---God has already been publicly humiliating you before multitudes of
people.

"How so," you ask? God is allowing many of you to become deceived to a degree that is
almost unimaginable to the saints (and the world). What so many of you believe and
teach is so far from being biblical that it can only be classed as deluded mysticism: Gold
dust and "Holy Spirit feathers" falling upon your followers. Gold fillings appearing in their
teeth. "Third heaven visualizations." Drunken jerking. "Spiritual Mapping." "Heavenly
portals," "star gates" and "open heavens." "Trance dancing." "Holy Ghost parties."
Pyramid prosperity schemes. The "presence movement."

Your bizarre doctrines and practices make you appear to be absolute dunderheads, and
you don't even realize it. We are embarrassed for you! Is it possible that, as God
humbled proud Nebuchadnezzar by giving him the mind of a beast, you are under a
similar judgment? While you bask in the awe of your thousands of gullible admirers,
millions sadly shake their heads at you. And it appears that you have become deluded
beyond any hope of return. You have made a mockery of God's Word with your myths
and now He is making a mockery of you before the world. You have become so
supernaturally imbecilic that you are completely blind to it. You have become a terrifying
object lesson to any who would exalt themselves and dare to discard God's Word in
favor of their own imaginations.

I will leave my readers with just one small sample of what I'm speaking. Below is an
advertisement found in a recent email newsletter of one of the three primary leaders of
the 500 "apostles" who currently are members of the International Coalition of Apostles,
a "prophet" and "apostle" named Chuck Pierce. Along with Peter Wagner, he believes
that (and I quote) "the Second Apostolic Age began roughly in 2001, heralding the most
radical change in the way of doing church at least since the Protestant Reformation"
(from the ICA website).

Here is that ad:

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For a sampling of Chuck Pierce's bizarre prophetic "ministry" visit
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403103165515642694, starting around
minute 44 of this 52-minute video. You'll hear some of his strange prophetic utterances.
To even begin to remotely understand the concept of "singing with the planets,"
however, you'll have to watch the entire video.

Incidentally, as favorably reported by Peter Wagner, that special "Be Revived" oil is
what was used to anoint Todd Bentley by the "apostles" at his commissioning ceremony
on June 23rd. When he was touched with that special anointing oil, Bentley "went down
under the power," and "the power of the Holy Spirit was so heavy on that event that you
could have cut it with a knife!" reported Wagner. Two days later in Lakeland, celebrated
"apostle" Che' Ahn used that same special oil to personally anoint the 1,000 or so
pastors who were present to be “carriers of the fire” to their churches. Forty-seven
nations were represented in that meeting. Wagner also recently reported that, although
"Lakeland 1" is over, "Lakeland 2" has just begun.




                    Prophetic Movement in Uproar
                                 Andrew Strom -1/21/11

Earlier this week we published big chunks of Dennis Cramer’s “Word for 2011″ in which
he basically tears into a lot of the flakey and dangerous “New Age”-type practices found
in today’s Prophetic movement. Well, to my great amazement, I found that the Elijah
List had actually published Cramer’s piece as well! And it caused such a storm that they
had to remove it after just one day – for “clarification”! But then they re-published it –
only slightly changed!
For those who don’t know, the Elijah List is the main email List for the Prophetic
movement – publishing the likes of Todd Bentley, Patricia King, Rick Joyner, Bob
Jones, etc. It also sells mounds of their books and CD’s. For the Elijah List to publish
something that basically refutes all the “Spirit Travel” and “Third Heaven Visitation” stuff
is simply unbelievable. It would almost be like the Pope refuting the veneration of Mary!

I don’t know what the Elijah List was thinking, but I’m sure glad they did it. Now maybe
there’s a chance that some of their readers will get out from under those dangerous
deceptions.

But I am left a bit dazed by it all – because the very ones who have been advocating
“spirit travel AT WILL” and “Trance dancing” and ‘Third Heaven visits AT WILL’ are the
very ministries that the Elijah List has been promoting all these years!

Here is what the Elijah List founder Steve Schultz wrote after they pulled the first article
when it caused such a storm-

“Dear Elijah List Readers, There was a huge number of people who were unclear on a
few issues with Dennis Cramer's word… The most controversial aspect was the 'AT
WILL' issue. Apparently, there are some out and about who are teaching that you can
transport or go to Heaven 'AT WILL'; i.e. whenever you want. This is truly not taught in
Scripture. The word 'Doctrine' is another word for 'teaching.' It's an untrue teaching that
anytime you want, you can go to Heaven or be transported… As soon as Dennis
Cramer sends us a more in-depth explanation of the items he listed, we plan to repost
my friend's word.”

ANDREW AGAIN: Steve – I’m so glad you wrote this, but do you truly realize what you
are saying? Don’t you know that Bob Jones and Todd Bentley and Patricia King, etc,
are the VERY BIGGEST promoters of all this “AT WILL” deception that you are talking
about? Patricia King even has a whole movement of “Ekstasis” Trance dancing! These
guys have entire reams of teaching on how to “visualize” your way into the Third
Heaven ‘AT WILL’. They have been promoting it for years. Surely you know this? That’s
why your readers are so upset. Dennis Cramer is finally exposing and rebuking this stuff
as the ‘New Age’ heresy that it really is.

On January 15, Elijah List reposted the “re-clarified” word from Dennis Cramer on their
website. It was a little softer in places, but still it said the following very clearly:

“One cannot go to Heaven like Paul or be transported physically like Phillip simply
because they want to or because they feel like it (at will). Teachings like this often
crossover into dangerous methods and techniques that resemble New Age, Mysticism,
Spiritism or other occult manipulative practices. A Believer cannot and must not force,
manipulate, or otherwise attempt to reproduce a sovereign supernatural Bible
experience by merely following a method, a series of steps, or worst of all 'willing it' to
happen.”
In the same re-posted word, Dennis Cramer went on to say-

“� Open Heaven/Spiritual Portals = BAD DOCTRINE
� Third Heaven Experiences At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
� Going to Heaven At Will to Get Your Gifts = BAD DOCTRINE
� Transporting Physically At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
� Over-Emphasis on Angels and Specifically Arc-Angels = BAD DOCTRINE
� Going into Trances At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
� Trance Dancing = BAD DOCTRINE
� Hyper-Grace: Christians Do Not Need to Repent of Sin = BAD DOCTRINE”

Well – there goes the Prophetic movement!! Seriously – I cannot believe they posted
this on the Elijah List! Steve – This is exactly all the stuff your followers have gotten into!
Most of the guys you promote – these are the exact ‘New Age’-type practices that they
teach! Surely you know this?

So now, to finish this article, I need some “clarification” from Steve Schultz. I am very
encouraged by this apparent change of heart, Steve, but I need to know if you will now
CEASE forthwith any and all publication of the materials and teachings of these people
– until they publicly repent and apologize for this ‘New Age’ heresy. And I need to know
if you – Steve Schultz – will now publicly renounce the promotion of these deceptive
preachers around the world. (Sorry to be so blunt about it, but we really need to hear
this from you). I am so glad that you published Cramer’s piece. But now we really need
to know where Elijah List stands – and whether things have truly changed or not. We
look forward to your reply.

And I ask everyone reading this to please forward it to your Charismatic friends. People
need to know that this stuff is finally being declared as “BAD DOCTRINE” – even by the
Elijah List itself. Please let everyone know, so this deception can be stopped. You would
be amazed how widespread it is.

God bless you all.

-Andrew Strom.



                     'Prophetic' Leader Rebukes the Craziness
                                   Andrew Strom -1/18/11

NOTE: Dennis Cramer comes from the Prophetic/Apostolic camp, and for that reason I
approach his ministry with caution. However, I certainly agree with these recent
statements of his:

EXTRACTS from DENNIS CRAMER’S “WORD FOR 2011″-
What exactly is meant by the phrase “at will”?…

“At will” means a believer makes a decision, on his own, to initiate or attempt to
duplicate a particular sovereign, supernatural experience. The individual wants a
particular supernatural experience to happen so badly, he will do anything, (within his
power), to make it happen – to force it, to duplicate or copy it, whether or not it is God’s
sovereign will. Rather, a believer should allow God to SOVEREIGNLY cause it to
happen at His chosen time, as we see recorded in all similar bible examples.

When a believer unwisely exercises his (soulish) human will, outside of or in conflict
with the sovereign will of God, (anything contrary to the written word of God, the Bible),
he is producing a seemingly supernatural (source unclear) experience, from his own will
or 'at will'. This is the meaning of 'at will.' 'At will' is self-will, and self-will can be sinful,
and can lead to all kinds of spiritual deception and questionable practices.

The question of supernatural sovereign experiences 'at will'

Do I believe in third heaven experiences? Absolutely, I do. The Bible supports such
sovereign experiences as in the example of Paul in II Cor.12. Do I believe in being
physically transported? Absolutely, I do! By a sovereign act of God, Phillip was
physically transported (Acts 8) from one location to another. So if it's in the Bible I
believe it! I believe it all! Amen!

However, there is a HUGE difference between God willing you to have a certain
sovereign bible experience, (like Paul or Phillip) as opposed to you willing it, or trying to
make it happen, to duplicate it through mere human effort or merely through the
exercising of your human or soulish will, in other words, 'at will.' These Bible
experiences were 100% sovereign. They did not happen because these individuals
willed them into existence or willed them to happen. God and God alone initiated them -
He and He alone willed them. This is the very nature of a sovereign experience: God
makes it happen when He wants, where he wants, and with whom He wants. Period!
And they usually happened when the candidates or recipients least expected it. Why?
Because these were sovereign events, not planned or initiated by man, but by God.

When discussing a sovereign experience there is a big difference between initiating
versus cooperating. God INITIATES all sovereign experiences, the believer
COOPERATES with them. Mix the two, crisscross them, and this can lead to some real
doctrinal confusion and counter-productive measures.

It's all about God's sovereignty.

The critical issue with operating in the supernatural is: who is initiating what or who is
'willing' what? Teaching believers that by following certain steps, teachings, formulas,
and/or merely exercising their own human wills, they can duplicate any sovereign
supernatural experience is dangerous and unscriptural.
One cannot go to heaven like Paul or be transported physically like Phillip simply
because they want to, or because they feel like it, (at will). Teachings like this often
cross over into dangerous methods and techniques that resemble new age, mysticism,
spiritism or other occult manipulative practices. A believer cannot and must not force,
manipulate, or otherwise attempt to reproduce a sovereign supernatural Bible
experience by merely following a method, a series of steps, or worst of all 'willing it' to
happen.

Whether we are discussing being translated in the spirit or transported physically, or any
supernatural sovereign experience we read about in the Bible, the critical difference
between whether it is God or not is who 'willed' it to happen: Was it you or was it God? If
you willed it to happen, it ceases to be a sovereign, God ordained, supernatural, Bible
experience, and you risk experiencing a counterfeit.

It Is Time To Dust Off Your Bible!…

There is now wide-spread acceptance of �marginal to heretical� doctrines. Just 25
years ago individuals would have been thrown out of the church if caught teaching
these heresies. How did this happen? Simply, we have become biblically ignorant. We
have not been diligent to feed on the unadulterated Word of God. We are at best
malnourished and in some cases starving to death. Biblical ignorance is on the increase
in the church, even to epidemic levels! Like any form of 'lack' created by ignorance
which can lead to sickness, only the proper 'intake' or in these cases, only proper
biblical education can remedy it.

Warning: We live in an age of “anything goes” theology! The charismatic church is in big
trouble!…

There is a growing trend towards some really bad doctrine out there. And we, the
church, must put a stop to it! If we don’t, no one else will! The church must begin to
police herself against unorthodox (false) teaching and bizarre practices. You must
reacquaint yourself with the scriptures and know your Bible.

In 40 years of serving God, I have not heard so much bad doctrine preached from so-
called “bible believing” Christians – specifically charismatic Christians….

We must pray for a 'Berean Revival' in the church – a revival which returns us all to our
roots – our roots in the Word of God. In the Bible, the original Bereans were believers
who "searched the scriptures daily to find out whether these things be so". There is a lot
of doctrine currently in circulation in the charismatic church that is highly questionable -
even heretical. Each believer must begin to "search the scriptures" for himself to
discover whether what he is believing is biblical or not (Acts 17:11). Stop unequivocally
trusting ministers and their pulpits to always and completely preach the truth - some do,
some do not. You need to search and know the scriptures for yourself. If their teachings
sound too good to be true - they very well may be! Know your bible… My prophetic
word to all Pastors/ Teachers for 2011 is simple: 'Preach the Word!' Know your bible.
Some examples of current doctrine circulating in the church: You must believe me that I
am NOT making this stuff up!

DOCTRINES of CONCERN…

� THIRD HEAVEN EXPERIENCES At WILL…

� GOING TO HEAVEN AT WILL to GET YOUR GIFTS:… There is no biblical record of
any believer having to go to heaven to get any gift. This is a totally unnecessary spiritual
exercise. The three listings of gifts in Romans, I Cor., and Ephesians have all been in
the church for over two thousand years. They are not in heaven, so why go there to get
them? The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have each deposited Their respective gifts in
the church here on earth. For 2000 years, Christians have been receiving here ON
EARTH from this great deposit of gifts. "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, ON
EARTH, as it is in heaven." Amen!

� CLOUD of WITNESSES / DEAD SAINTS: Teaches that Christians should expect the
intervention of dead saints in our daily lives. This entire deception is based on a terribly
irresponsible interpretation of a single obscure verse in Hebrews 12:1. We do not need
dead saints intervening in our lives. We have Jesus as our Mediator, the ONLY
mediator we need between God and man (I Tim.2:5) and He is not dead. He is alive!
Necromancy, that is, communication with the dead, (any dead) is forbidden in scripture.

� TRAVELING in TIME AT WILL: I have been unable to find this in the bible. Let alone
doing it 'at will.'

� TRANSPORTING PHYSICALLY At WILL…

� OVER EMPHASIS on ANGELS: Yes, they are real. But an angelic visitation is a rare
and precious event. Most Christians will never have an encounter with one. And it is
extremely unlikely that a Christian will be visited by an archangel. Michael and Gabriel
were given specific, significant, world changing tasks in the scriptures. It is likely that
they have more important things to do than to drop by your house for a visit!

� GOING into TRANCES AT WILL…

� TRANCE DANCING: I have been unable to find this in the bible…

Seducing Spirits! (ITim.4:1-4) There has been loosed on the church for 2000 years a
literal army of demons who sole task is to deceive the church! Unfortunately, these
deceiving, seducing, spirits are enjoying some of their most successful efforts. Why?
The average believer does not know his bible. The bible is absolute truth, forever settled
in heaven. It is our sword of the Spirit - two edged and deadly. To be bible ignorant is to
have no offensive weapon against our enemy Satan. Our ONLY defense against our
enemy is a proven offense. And our proven offense against this hoard of demons is the
written Word of God, the bible. Jesus wielded this same written word-sword against
Satan in the wilderness with great results. So should you! I hear the church saying
again, "DEVIL, IT IS WRITTEN!" It does not matter what you think, feel, sense, or even
believe. It does not matter what experience you claim to have had, or how many trips to
heaven you claim to have made, or how many angels you claim to know on a first name
basis. The only thing that matters is what God said in His Word. Know your bible… –
Dennis Cramer.

SOURCE – http://www.denniscramer.com



                                     Texas Fires
                                  Mike Dyal - 9/17/11
                                 (David's notes in red)

After reading the posting this morning,Deceived By a False Jesus, and also listening to
the 2006 broadcast on The Threshing Floor, it brought back to my remembrance some
things concerning the recent outbreak of fires that we have had here in Texas.

Last week, my wife, Lisa, happened to turn on the local news
telecast when it showed a map of all of the fire outbreaks and
where they were occurring. The Lord quickened her and she
thought to herself that this image looks exactly like theTexas
Ablaze conference image that is associated with the false
prophetic movement, of which we have been exposed to, that has
been so prevalent here. (Where the fire of the logo was on Texas
was also where the natural fires were devouring the land and
buildings.)
I went to theSFWM website to get an image of the Texas Ablaze emblem and I listened
to the prophecy from February 2011 by Chuck Pierce on the right side of their
homepage. I know he is associated with this movement. (Here are portions of it: He
prophesied that there will be a drop on BasTROP. ... Go there and say it ... Say it in
every corner ... As a sign of change to this nation ... Father, thank you for the drop that
will fall on Bastrop. [Here he spoke of the anointing coming.] ... It is going to be a lot of
heat that is coming ... This fire was not an anointing or blessing but a curse upon the
land, just as the false revival movement is.)

That same day, I was at my office meditating on the Lord and thinking about all of these
fires when I asked the Lord to give me a word concerning this. I shut my eyes, spun and
flipped my Bible around, opened it up, put my finger down and it landed directly on
Jeremiah 9:25, which says: Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that I will
punish all who are circumcised with the uncircumcised ...

I then looked directly above this verse to the two preceding verses of which I had
previously underlined: (23) Thus says the LORD: “Let not the wise man glory in his
wisdom, Let not the mighty man glory in his might, Nor let the rich man glory in
his riches; (24) But let him who glories glory in this, That he understands and
knows Me, That I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and
righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD.

I thought, isn’t this something, because most of the “circumcised” today don’t believe
that when events such as this happen, that it is judgment from God. Very few
understand the sovereignty of God. It is totally explained away or blamed on something
when many scriptures say just the opposite, such as: (Heb.10:26) For if we sin
willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer
remains a sacrifice for sins, (27) but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and
fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

There were many fires going on but the one that was making the most headlines was
the one in Bastrop, Texas because of all of the homes it consumed. So I asked the Lord
what was so significant about Bastrop and was there any meaning to this, when He led
me to Wikipedia to research it a little. I discovered that the town was named after a man
named Baron de Bastrop who was an influential person who helped the colonization of
Texas. Interestingly enough, this was not his real name. His real name was Felipe
Enrique Neri, but people believed his false identity and he engaged in many land deals
where he made a fortune but later went broke. His true identity was not revealed until
some time after his death.

I believe God is saying that the threshing floor of judgment is coming to separate the
wheat from the tares. He said to let them grow together until the harvest. There are
many with false identities who have infiltrated the church and others who need to have
the wood, hay and stubble burned up for purification purposes. This is the reason He is
bringing us to this time and it will be on the “circumcised” and “uncircumcised.”
Tribulation was designed to separate a people who are holy and sanctified!

Unfortunately, the false prophetic movement has not gone away. This is a dangerous
deception that needs to be exposed for what it is -- false signs and lying wonders. I
praise the Lord that by His grace He revealed this to us. Signs and wonders don’t testify
of truth; His Word does! Get God’s Word in you and don’t be moved by what you see.
Watch the following clip and tell me how this edifies Jesus! Take note of the mantra
repeated over and over calling forth for “fire.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZHJWBONPqGc



                          Vision of the Acid Rain Cloud
                                 Richard Smith - 1994

This vision emerged with an unusually vivid degree of clarity on Thursday morning the
29th September, 1994, just before I was about to go out and do some studying.
Following a period of pouring out my distressed feelings about the condition of the
Church to Jesus, who is our heavenly Advocate, I saw ahead of me a large billowing
black cloud which carried lots of soot and other pollutants. Its sulphurous stench
revealed that here was no natural cloud, but rather it was the type of acid cloud which
arises from the explosion of some chemical plant or oil installation. Blown by its own
momentum, the acid cloud was rapidly heading towards a low waterless desert plain
which lay beneath some rocky mountains. Filling the plain were all types of people
whom I under-stood represented the Christian population of England. Most were
indigenous white Anglo-Saxons, but there were members of various ethnic minorities as
well. These stood for the immigrant population in England.

FOUR GROUPS

On closer inspection, I could see that this vast assembly was divided into four main
groups. The first of these was the one that was nearest to the cloud and was obviously
coming under its influence. This particular group can be known as the intoxicated.
Behind them, closely intermingled together, were the second and third groups - these
can be known as the fearful and the angry. Still further behind at a little distance was a
smaller group who will be known as the prepared. However, one fact was obvious - the
acid cloud was going to cover all four groups regardless of whether they wanted it to or
not.

It was at this point that I perceived that the cloud was blowing in from the Westerly
direction.

In response to this cloud, the first group were laughing, dancing and singing. A few of
their members were lying prostrate and making all kinds of animal noises. Some were
so deliriously happy that they actually formed a dance line, which - while they were
dancing the conga - snaked its way into the cloud. With a start, I realised their mistake.
Already intoxicated by invisible fumes emanating from the front of the cloud, this group
were wrongly assuming that the polluted cloud was a refreshing rain cloud that
represented God's presence. They failed to see what its true nature was.

The second group of Christians saw what the cloud consisted of, but then panicked.
Some ran away and tripped over, knocking themselves out, while others stood there,
frozen to the ground, looking in two directions at once. Like the first group, they too
were swallowed up by the cloud. Their fundamental mistake was to panic in the face of
evil.

Whilst this was happening, the third group of Christians (who also saw that the cloud
was a menace) stood before it shaking their fists and making all kinds of angry noises.
Some were kicking at it with their feet. Like the previous two groups, they were clad in
light, flimsy summer clothing. Their mistake was to try to fight the cloud in their own
strength. Consequently, they too were swallowed up. Moreover, as the cloud ate up
each of the three previous groups, there was silence, followed by earpiercing howls of
pain, succeeded by more silence - which was broken only by the odd intermittent moan
or throaty gurgle which very much reminded me of a First World War gas attack.

THE PREPARED

However, the fourth group of Christians were getting ready to deal with the threat posed
by this cloud. With urgent haste, they were donning anti-chemical suits of clothing,
clamping on gas masks and putting on strong safety helmets which had a bright light,
like a miner's lamp, attached to it. Above the lamp (which represent- ed the light of the
Holy Spirit) near the top of the helmet was a bright red spot. At once I discerned that
this symbolised the Blood of Jesus Christ. It was His mark on this group.
Strapped to their sides were white first-aid cases with red crosses on them. These
carried a wide assortment of medical aids to help those Christians who had been
burned by the cloud. In their right hands they carried strong transparent riot shields,
while in their left hands they carried various types of weaponry. These were obviously
designed to fight the various kinds of principalities which inhabit the cloud.

Suddenly, at God's own timing, they formed a line, linked shields and marched at an
orderly pace into the cloud. They were obviously directed by the Lord to do this. It was
also clear that they were called to work very closely together. (Note; later, Richard was
shown that the strategy of this group would be to advance at the Lord's command, fight
strenuously, rescue and minister to some of the wounded; then stand their ground
awaiting the next call for advance).

BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT

Somewhat taken aback by the implications of this vision, I then used my mind to apply 1
Jn 4:1-3. In blunt Yorkshire tones, I said "Do you, the spirit who has brought this picture
so vividly to mind, boldly confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh"? "Yes, I boldly
confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh". "Fine, what do you say about the Blood
He shed on the Cross?" "Through the Blood there is forgiveness of sin. It protected the
Israelites from My judgment on the Egyptian firstborn". "Good. Now let's take counsel
together and have some intelligent discussion. Without repeating all the details that
were revealed earlier, would you please, Abba Father, send your Holy Spirit to complete
the interpretation of this vision?"

THE INTERPRETATION

Still utterly in control of what was happening, I then slowly took stock of what the Holy
Spirit was saying. While creating a piercing clarity of mind that served to heighten my
intellectual faculties, the Holy Spirit gave me the following interpretation:

1) The acid cloud not only represented what is currently known as the Toronto
Phenomenon, it also represents all that will come out of that occurrence. The Toronto
Phenomenon is so to speak only the front edge of the cloud. It is paving a way for even
more extreme manifestations of the evil one. In short, "Toronto" can be seen as a
beginning rather than an end.

2) Being blown by its own momentum indicates that within the cloud there is only what
can be described as a hostile alien spirit. It is the head spirit of many other spirits which
inhabit the cloud. More- over, this alien spirit has been given permission by God to try
the loyalties of Christians in this country. Through a process of sharp division, which will
cause many wounds, it will become really clear who in the Church is standing by Jesus
and who is not. However, some of those who belong to the first three groups will be
given a few further chances to repent. For a little while, the opportunity to get back into
a right relationship with God will exist.

3) The flat waterless desert plain represents English Society which is bereft of the Holy
Spirit. It may also have some bearing on other places within the British Isles - even
though it is England which is primarily represented.

Another point to mention is that if the Lord's people had been on top of the rocky
mountains, (which represents nearness to God's presence) then they would have
escaped the influence of the acid cloud. Their position on the desert plain has left them
desperately vulnerable to the corrosive effects. In other words, being in the place where
Jesus Christ doesn't want them to be has stripped the Church of many spiritual
defences. Far from putting on the armour of God, it is wearing loose, light summer
clothes. Furthermore, being in the desert place has caused many Christians to seek to
assuage their thirst from the wrong spiritual sources. That is one reason why the first
group greeted the cloud with such enthusiasm. It seemed to offer an easy way to meet
their needs.

4) As was stated earlier, the people in the plain were Christians - mainly
charismatic/evangelical Christians, but there were also a fair number of representatives
from the established denominations as well. They were conspicuous for their clerical
collars, long robes and self-important expressions on their faces. It was clear that this
cloud is going to have a very widespread effect.

5) As was clearly seen in the vision itself, the four groups rep- resented four possible
reactions to the acid cloud. Only the last was appropriate to the situation in hand.

In particular, those who stood frozen to the ground looking in two directions, stood for
Christian leaders who were trying to find expedient diplomatic solutions to what was an
impossible situation. Not surprisingly, most of their supporters were quickly deserting
them - leaving them alone to be swallowed up by the cloud. At this juncture, I believe
the Holy Spirit is clearly saying "beware of man-made expedients in dealing with the
Toronto Phenomenon". What the Church faces here is primarily a spiritual, not cultural
or psychological problem. Spiritual weapons will be needed to deal with it.

6) The role of the fourth group, which was the only one really doing God's will, was two-
fold. Firstly it has to use the spiritual weapons given it to attack the principalities which
were in the cloud. Secondly, it had to help restore Christians from the previous three
groups who had been injured by it. Regrettably, some Christians they will have to
bypass, because they will either refuse treatment or be in such a wild state that it will be
impossible to deal with them.

By no means will all Christians survive the passing of the cloud. Some will forsake their
faith, while others will suffer from perm- anent physical and mental breakdowns. A few
will even lose their very lives there.

I began to see that the acid cloud was also the cloud of God's judgment, that will have
to pass over the Church until evil is forcibly removed from it. Only after the acid cloud
has done its work will the Church be pure enough to receive the cloud of God's
presence. This cloud will in turn bring further cleansing and much-needed revival.
However, the time for this second cloud to pass over is not yet. Any hopes of immediate
revival are therefore premature. This means that taken as a whole, the Toronto
Phenomenon does not represent a time of refreshing, rather it represents what is
perhaps the first installment of a VERY severe judgment on the churches in this country.
In a very real sense, the mass of God's people are being handed over to Satan for the
destruction of the flesh. Only those who are faithful to the Lord in all things will be
exempt from this judgment - even though they may be distressed by its consequences.
For members of the fourth group, there is the challenge to stand together and not act as
a group of disparate individuals.

In closing, I believe the Holy Spirit is challenging you who read this document to decide
which groups you belong to - is it to be the intoxicated, the fearful, the angry or the
prepared? Great evil is coming upon many churches in this country - there exists only a
little time to make this decision.




                         Deceived By a False Jesus
                               Belinda Anderson - 9/09/11
                                 (David’s notes in red)

Hello, David. I was listening to a Bible study you did back in the spring of 2006 on The
Threshing Floor. This study lines up pretty well with what's going on right now with
God's people and events in the world.

The Lord is definitely separating the wheat from the chaff. We have all suffered many
trials to get us prepared for what's coming very soon now. Like in childbirth, there must
be some pain, but in the end, the pain was worth the reward.

God is allowing many apostates to come against us to try our faith. The true people of
God will not be misled or fall prey by these people. The tribulation is getting closer and
our birth pains are getting stronger and closer, as well. The Lord will be raising up his
man-child soon. Praise The Lord! My prayers are for the weak in the faith, that the Lord
will protect them as they are growing into maturity.

This all brought to my remembrance a dream I had back last year.

I dreamed that I was walking down the street and I saw some people going up to people
on the street and asking them if they would like to be in the audience of a new game
show. I kept watching as these people were drawing a large crowd by telling people
they could win a house, car, boat,trips, money, etc. (This represents prosperity, love of
the world, personal gain, bribery by the flesh, Christianity.) When they got all the people
they needed to fill up the audience, they took them all inside the darkly-lit building. They
gave each person a sheet of paper with a number on it and had them all sit down. I saw
an elderly man complaining as they handed him his paper. He told them he did not want
to be in the audience, that he was brought into the building by force. They made him
take the paper anyway and two men took him to his seat and told him to sit down. (The
New World Order and its religion will take authority over all. The more mature Christians
do not enjoy playing the worldly games with the apostates.)

Then, the game show host came on stage and called out three numbers to select three
contestants. A young man was selected, then a middle-aged man, then the older man
who didn't want to be there. (Notice these ranged from the less mature to the more
mature) The three contestants were taken into a small room and told to wait there. The
first contestant was brought out and given a card with three questions on it. (Notice that
those in control supplied the questions. They didn’t want to trip up their fake Jesuses.)
Across from the contestant were three men. The object of the game was for the
contestant to guess the REAL JESUS from among these. The contestant had one
question he was to ask each Jesus. The contestant asked his question to each of the
three Jesuses, then the game show host told him it was time to select the real Jesus.
The contestant chose Jesus number one. Jesus number one jumped up and said, "You
are right." Then the game show host told the contestant that he had won a new house.
There was a lot of applause and music and celebration. (Everyone has a different Jesus
that they chose for the sake of fleshly advantage, usually so they can continue in pet
sins. This worldly Jesus always gets the applause of the worldly.) Contestant number
one was led off the stage into the "winners' room" (I noticed this room was painted red
on the inside) and told he had to wait there until the show was over.

Contestant number two was brought out and again he was given a card with three
questions. He asked his three questions to each of the three Jesuses. He chose Jesus
number two. Jesus number two jumped up and exclaimed, "You are right!" The game
show host then told the contestant that he had won a beautiful, new shiny car. Again,
there was much applause, music and celebration. Then, contestant number two was led
to the the winners' room and told to stay there until the game was over. (In other words,
whoever you chose is the true Jesus to you. This worldly contest put on by the forces of
darkness represents the test to see who will follow antichrist, which is any other false
Christ. “Anti” not only means “against,” it means “in the place of.”)

Then, contestant number three was led onto the stage and given his card. I noticed the
contestant look at the questions first and then he looked up at each one of the three
Jesuses. He had a look of distaste on his face and I could sense hesitation to even ask
these the three questions. (The mature who respect the Word have come to recognize
the real Jesus.) The game show host told him he was holding up the show and needed
to ask the questions, so he did. When he finished asking the questions, the game show
host asked him to pick the real Jesus. The old man sat there a minute, then he pointed
to Jesus number one and said, "You can't be the real Jesus because you are dressed in
OFF-WHITE and the real Jesus would not be dressed in off-white. Our Lord's garment
is bright and shining." (The real Jesus believes and acts on true holiness. He does not
wink at sin.) He then pointed to Jesus number two who was dressed in all black. The old
man said, "You can't be the real Jesus because the REAL Jesus has no darkness in
him." (And neither does a real disciple who recognizes darkness when he sees it.) He
then pointed to Jesus number three who was dressed in off-white and black. He said,
"You can't be the real Jesus because your garments are spotted. The real Jesus is
spotless and without blemish." (Biblical discernment will save some from idolatry and
destruction. The wise recognize and are “hating even the garment spotted by the
flesh” (Jude 23).)

The old man then turned and faced the TV camera and began to tell the people who
were watching by television not to be deceived by these false Christs. (“The righteous
are as bold as a lion.”) The game show host ran over to the TV camera and tried to
unplug it. When he got about a foot away, a bolt of lightning shot across the room and
hit him and rolled him off the stage. Two men then came up and tried to take the old
man off the stage. Again, lightning shot across the stage and hit those two men and
threw them to the back of the room. The old man then focused on the audience; he told
them to get out of the building quickly, lest any more of them get caught up in this evil
deception. (Get out of the buildings of those who have an 'anything goes' Jesus. The
mature Christians will get the Word of this deception out, despite attempts by the harlot
and beast to stop them. God’s power will see to it.)

The two men who had been hit by lightning ran over to the winners' room to get the two
winners. They led them to a door that read "ONE WAY" in big black letters with a red
arrow pointing down and told them they had to go through that door to get their rewards.
(There is one way for the righteous and the wicked. Those who deny Jesus for fleshly
rewards will get the rewards of the flesh.) The winners opened the door (I noticed the
winners' opened the door and not those two men) and stepped into a large foyer. (No
one can send you to hell for following antichrist but you.) They could hear laughter and
music and were excited to claim their prizes. All of a sudden, the laughter and music
stopped and the lights were turned off. The room filled with a sulfur-like stench and they
had trouble trying to breathe the air. They tried to run back to the door to get out, but the
door had disappeared; then, all of a sudden, the floor parted in the middle and they
started falling down. Then I awoke from the dream. (Pro.14:12 There is a way which
seemeth right unto a man; But the end thereof are the ways of death.)
My thoughts: Unless we are filled with God's word and stay true to HIS word, we can be
easily deceived and end up like contestants number one and two. We can be easily led
away by false men and false doctrine. (Or have in our heart a false Jesus.) I know this
for a fact, as it happened to me. I got caught up in the First Assembly of God and
the“false revival movement” teaching there; then the Messianic Judaism false doctrine. I
was so busy filling my days with idols that I didn't have enough of the WORD in me to
protect me from my enemies. Only by the grace of God was I led away from these
things. This dream made me more determined than ever to study God's word and to
pray for understanding, wisdom and knowledge and to pray for discernment.

I can't stress enough how important it is for us to get God's Word deep into our hearts.
There's so much deception out there and we MUST prepare ourselves.




        Following Militants, Liberal Pacifists or Christ?
As in the article below, the Apostate liberal Christians will be used by the beast to
control the multitudes by teaching pacifism toward the government in Romans 13. On
the other hand, the militant Christians who don't know or care what Romans 13 says are
using the government's manipulation of these pacifist liberals to falsely associate them
with the elect for their stand on the Word. Patriots on both sides will persecute the
righteous as the body of Christ will once again be crucified for the body of Barabbas.

As disciples of Christ we can't afford to believe any of these antichrist entities. We must
believe the Word of God or perish with them. Please read what the Word teaches.

God bless you with submission to God's Word in Jesus' Name.

David

                   Homeland Security Enlists Clergy to Quell
                   Public Unrest if Martial Law Ever Declared
                          Jeff Ferrell - 8/15/07 - Shreveport, LA

Could martial law ever become a reality in America? Some fear any nuclear, biological
or chemical attack on U.S. soil might trigger just that. KSLA News 12 has discovered
that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us.

Charleton Heston's now-famous speech before the National Rifle Association at a
convention back in 2000 will forever be remembered as a stirring moment for all 2nd
Amendment advocates. At the end of his remarks, Heston held up his antique rifle and
told the crowd in his Moses-like voice, "over my cold, dead hands."
While Heston, then serving as the NRA President, made those remarks in response to
calls for more gun control laws at the time, those words live on. Heston's declaration
captured a truly American value: An over-arching desire to protect our freedoms.

But gun confiscation is exactly what happened during the state of emergency following
Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, along with forced relocation. U.S. Troops also
arrived, something far easier to do now, thanks to last year's elimination of the 1878
Posse Comitatus act, which had forbid regular U.S. Army troops from policing on
American soil.

If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie "The Siege", easing
public fears and quelling dissent would be critical. And that's exactly what the 'Clergy
Response Team' helped accomplish in the wake of Katrina.

Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the
Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing
that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll
settle the differences once the crisis is over.'"

Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the
demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the
other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in
which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the
director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency
Preparedness.

For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the
public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville
elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's
what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture."

Civil rights advocates believe the amount of public cooperation during such a time of
unrest may ultimately depend on how long they expect a suspension of rights might last.

Please read what the Word teaches.




                          The Sword or the Cross?
                                          David Eells
Please be very patient with me and I will share something that just may save your
physical and eternal life. If you are not willing to believe only what the scriptures say
concerning your relationship to this evil world and its God-ordained plan in your life,
don't waste your time reading this.
                    (Excerpt from Hidden Manna For the End Times)

When Peter used the sword to keep Jesus from going to the cross, He said, “All they
that take the sword shall perish with the sword.” Even though the true saints will not
agree with much that is about to happen in this world, they will not take “the sword” of
man and break their covenant with God as the apostates and their leadership will. God’s
plan for His people is demonstrated by Jesus. (Jn.12:23) And Jesus answereth them,
saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. (24) Verily,
verily, I say unto you, Except a grain of wheat fall into the earth and die, it abideth
by itself alone; but if it die, it beareth much fruit. (25) He that loveth his life loseth
it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. (26) If any
man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be:
if any man serve me, him will the Father honor. As Jesus was a seed sown in the dirt
of this earth, so must we be. The wicked of this world are the dirt that puts to death the
fleshly husk of the seed so that the inner life may come forth and bear fruit. As a lamb
does not struggle with a wolf, the seed does not struggle with the dirt but permits it to
fulfill its purpose. (Lk.10:3)…I send you forth as lambs in the midst of wolves. In
God’s plan wolves devour the flesh of the lambs. He uses the wicked to chasten His
children. (2Sam.7:14) I will be his father, and he shall be my son: if he commit
iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with thestripes of the children
of men.

(2Cor.4:11) For we who live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that
the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh. (16) Wherefore we
faint not; but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is
renewed day by day. (17) For our light affliction, which is for the moment, worketh
for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory. The glory of God will
be manifested in those who will “resist not him that is evil” but will “turn the other
cheek” and permit the dirt to do its job. No one else can drive the nails, friend. You are
unable to do it and other Christians shouldn’t do it. It is God’s plan to use the harlot and
the beast to crucify our old man. (Acts 2:23) [H]im (Jesus), being delivered up by the
determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye by the hand of lawless men
did crucify and slay. (4:27) [F]or of a truth in this city against thy holy Servant
Jesus, whom thou didst anoint, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles
and the peoples of Israel, were gathered together, (28) to do whatsoever thy hand
and thy council foreordained to come to pass. Through death to self at their hands,
the world will see Jesus in us and we will be enabled to fulfill the great commission.
(1Pet.4:1) Forasmuch then as Christ suffered in the flesh, arm ye yourselves also
with the same mind; for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
(2) that ye no longer should live the rest of your time in flesh to the lusts of men,
but to the will of God.

In the days when God’s people were ruled over by the Roman beast it was written:
(Rom.13:1) Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no
power but of God; and the [powers] that be are ordained of God. (2) Therefore he
that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that
withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. Though Christians are forbidden to
take the mark and image of the beast, they are also forbidden to take up arms against
secular nations over them. This puts the people of God in a position of weakness like
Jesus when He submitted to His cross instead of fighting.

(Note: Some falsely say that the U.S. is not typed in Scriptures. In Revelation, we see
that Babylon is the Queen of the world, an end-time world superpower, a very rich
nation that trades with the whole world. Both Revelation and Daniel say it is the head of
all the nations and was called the "great eagle" in Ezekiel 17. Jeremiah 25 shows that it
will bring destruction to the Middle East and then fall in what appears to be a nuclear
attack from the nations. Revelation 18 says this will be in one hour of one day. Who,
with common sense, would not see that this ancient eagle that was conquered by the
bear is not a type of the U.S.?)

Using Babylon and her king as a type of the U.S. and her President, God warned his
people to submit to her as far as secular matters go. (Jer.27:5) I have made the earth,
the men and the beasts that are upon the face of the earth, by my great power and
by my outstretched arm; and I give it unto whom it seemeth right unto me. (6) And
now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of
Babylon, my servant…. (7) And all the nations shall serve him…. (8) And it shall
come to pass, that the nation and the kingdom which will not serve the same
Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke
of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the Lord, with the sword,
and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his
hand. (9) But as for you (Christians), hearken ye not to your prophets, nor to your
diviners, nor to your dreams, nor to your soothsayers, nor to your sorcerers, that
speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon: (10) for they
prophesy a lie unto you, to remove you far from your land, and that I should drive
you out, and ye should perish…. (12) And I spake to Zedekiah king of Judah
according to all these words, saying,Bring your necks under the yoke of the king
of Babylon, and serve him and his people, and live. (13) Why will ye die, thou and
thy people, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence, as the Lord hath
spoken concerning the nation that will not serve the king of Babylon? (14) And
hearken not unto the words of the prophets that speak unto you, saying, Ye shall
not serve the king of Babylon; for they prophesy a lie unto you. (15) For I have not
sent them, saith the Lord, but they prophesy falsely in my name; thatI may drive
you out, and that ye may perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.
Fear this warning and do not listen to false prophets who come as patriots to stir up
Christians to rebel against this country. Those who do, God will destroy by the hand of
this government. In this way God will cleanse His body of those that refuse to obey and
go to their cross. Here is a portion of a vision and prophecy through Chuck
Youngbrandt:

Those who are rebellious against God will rebel against the government, including the
communist’s fifth columnists we have here. Military troops will have to be called out as a
result. Some will repent but many will continue in rebellion. God said 90% of the
rebellious and disobedient church people will die during this time.

Jesus said, “Love your enemies,” not shoot them, and “turn the other cheek,” not
make war on them. That’s what those concentration camps are for, friends. They are
expecting and waiting for Christians to “take the sword.” Our Lord said, “All they that
take the sword shall perish with the sword.” I am certainly not excusing the
government’s actions in any of this but if David Koresh had not broken God’s covenant
and stored up that arsenal with the intent to use it against the government, he and his
followers would still be alive. Bear witness that God did not defend them.

God will bring the U.S. against His people and their apostate leaders because they have
ignored His covenant. (Hos.8:1) [Set] the trumpet to thy mouth. As an eagle [he
cometh] against the house of the Lord, because they have transgressed my
covenant, and trespassed against my law. (2) They shall cry unto me, My God, we
Israel know thee. (3) Israel hath cast off that which is good: the enemy shall
pursue him. (4) They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes,
and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that
they may be cut off. In the days of Jesus we see this same type in these days. The
apostate people of God were in bondage to the Roman beast for their rebellion against
the Word. These stiff-necked people of God were in constant revolution against the
Romans and paying a great penalty for it. (Mk.15:6) Now at the feast he used to
release unto them one prisoner, whom they asked of him. (7) And there was one
called Barabbas, [lying] bound with them that had made insurrection(revolution),
men who in the insurrection had committed murder. (8) And the multitude went
up and began to ask him [to do] as he was wont to do unto them. (9) And Pilate
answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews? (10)
For he perceived that for envy the chief priests had delivered him up. (11) But the
chief priests stirred up the multitude, that he should rather release Barabbas unto
them. (Jn.18:40) They cried out therefore again, saying, Not this man, but
Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. Notice that Barabbas and many with him
were in prison for making a revolution against the Romans. Jesus suffered in the place
of this Jewish patriot. In like manner the true body of Christ will suffer innocently
because of “Christian” patriots who will revolt against the U.S./U.N. beast. In another
type, Barabbas was chosen out of all the Jews that were in prison with him to be
released. Barabbas means “son of the father.” Because Jesus went to the cross, a
remnant of these people who truly are “sons of the Father” will be forgiven and saved.
Militant patriots do not understand what the Holy Spirit showed in this text, that killing
Romans or Americans is “murder” and that those who steal from them are “robbers.”

Remember, God did not defend almost 1000 very religious patriots whom the Romans
destroyed. In 66 A.D. when the Jews rebelled against the Romans, they captured this
mountain 1000 meters above the Judean wilderness. In a well-supplied, seemingly
impregnable fortress, the Jews attempted for seven years to hold out against the
Roman beast. In a clear type, all but a remnant of seven committed suicide and brought
an end to the worldly state of Israel. “Christian” rebels in our day will, in effect, commit
suicide by fighting against the beast and bring an end to the worldly state of the Church.
The Timothy McVeigh’s of this world are not patriots in God’s kingdom. The real heroes
are those who leave worldly governments up to God and choose their cross over
rebelling against His Word.

Like Jesus, Paul gives us a type of how innocent Christians in our day will be falsely
accused as rebels and imprisoned or killed. In Acts 21:38, a chief captain said to him,
“Art thou not then the Egyptian, who before these days stirred up to sedition and
led out into the wilderness the four thousand men of the Assassins?” Notice once
again that an Egyptian, representing the old carnal man, was leading Jews to kill
Romans. The “Christians” who are led of the old man today will fight against the
U.S./U.N. beast. God will not tolerate those who call themselves patriots in order to
rebel against this government and His Word. (Rom.13:1) Let every soul be in
subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God…. (2) Therefore
he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that
withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. Jesus gave us permission to “flee”
like sheep before the wolves, but not to fight in the flesh as wolves. (Mt.10:16) Behold,
I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as
serpents, and harmless as doves. (23) But when they persecute you in this city,
flee into the next: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone through the
cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. Notice that this persecution will spread
the Word through the cities of God’s people and He will come. Praise His Name!

While the carnal people of God were having their revolution against the government,
Jesus and the disciples were having a spiritual revolution against them. Jesus said,
“Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a
sword (the Word). For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law:
and a man’s foes [shall be] they of his own household” (Mt.10:34-36). Tertullus,
speaking against Paul’s revolution, said, “For we have found this man a pestilent
fellow, and a mover of insurrections (revolutions) among all the Jews throughout
the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes” (Acts 24:5). Jesus and
Paul’s revolution was to use the Word to separate the chosen from the carnal church.
Neither of them had anything to do with wrestling with a flesh and blood beast system.
That was the harlot’s revolution. We are to be patriots of the Lord’s kingdom, not the
U.S. Like Jesus, “My kingdom is not of this world.”

Because they would not obey Jesus, the Jews were led by their deceiving leadership to
their own destruction and that of their city in 70 A.D. This was also the cause of its
destruction in other times. (Ezra 4:19) And I decreed, and search hath been made,
and it is found that this city of old time hath made insurrection against kings, and
that rebellion and sedition have been made therein. (5:12) But after that our
fathers had provoked the God of heaven unto wrath, he gave them into the hand
of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, the Chaldean, who destroyed this house,
and carried the people away into Babylon. Every beast kingdom was raised up by
God to chasten and bring into bondage and crucifixion His rebellious people and so it
will be with the Babylon of our day. Our warfare is not with flesh and blood men but with
the demon principalities and powers that rule them (Eph.6:12). (Mt.5:38) Ye have
heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: (39) but I say
unto you, Resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right
cheek, turn to him the other also. (Jas.4:7)…resist the devil, and he will flee from
you.

Many will fight to keep from going into captivity but only God determines if one needs
this for their maturing. (Rev.13:9) If any man hath an ear, let him hear. (10) If any
man [is] for captivity, into captivity he goeth: if any man shall kill with the sword,
with the sword must he be killed. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Only God gives authority to the beast to bring His people into bondage or death. M. Cox
relates a dream he had concerning these principles.

I had a dream so real that every time I think about it, it becomes more vivid just as if I
was there. I was sleeping in our small farm house with a few other people one night.
Sometime in the dead of the night all of a sudden I heard the thunderous boom of these
military helicopters and airplanes. Then this helicopter landed right beside our house. All
the occupants of our house were rounded up and taken away by the helicopter,
probably to prison work farms. I was just standing there amazed, thinking these people
never resisted, or tried to run away. And they all acted like I wasn’t there. I thought that
they had forgotten me. Soon after they left, another helicopter came. They were
probably told that they had forgotten one of the occupants. I was naturally scared so I
hid under the bed, shaking like a leaf with my legs sticking out. The soldiers didn’t have
any U.N. symbol but were probably a makeshift multi-national army. A black and a white
soldier had yellow torches and M-16 machine guns with them. They were looking and
thrashing everywhere trying to look for me. The black soldier was looking under the bed
I was under. The funny thing was I was right in front of him with my feet sticking out but
it appeared he couldn’t see me. Suddenly, it dawned on me that I was invisible to the
soldiers. They couldn’t see me. After awhile, the soldiers left frustrated at not being able
to find me. I must say that the fear and terror of the situation was unbelievable. A few
days later this helicopter came and sprayed this chemical and the surrounding place
turned all brown. They probably had been given orders to let no survivors that they
couldn’t find live. Anyway, even before they sprayed I noticed that the surrounding
vegetation looked brownish, maybe from nuclear fallout. Miraculously, with all this
happening I was still alive and the dream ended there.

Notice that God’s people did not resist and only those who needed captivity were taken.
We should not put it beyond God’s ability to supernaturally hide those who do not need
more crucifixion. If He could translate me halfway around the world, He can certainly
make us invisible to the enemy. Bob Aicardi also had a dream like this.

I found myself cautiously walking the floors of a very large government building, which
was occupied by foreign troops, and I knew that as an American I was not supposed to
be there. I was noticed by a worker, who set off an intruder alert. Down the corridor the
entrance doors slammed shut and locked. As I walked up to the doors they opened and
I passed through to escape. Once outside, perimeter guards were alerted and were all
about. I walked through them as invisible and saw another man doing the same thing. I
said to him, “Isn’t the blood of Jesus wonderful?”

We see that not only can God protect those who are mature but He can also give rest to
those who need to submit to their cross. (Jn.19:11) Jesus answered him, Thou
wouldest have no power against me, except it were given thee from above. Like
our Lord, we are to receive everything as from God and leave retaliation up to Him.
(Rom.12:17) Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in
the sight of all men. (18) If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with
all men. (19) Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath [of
God]: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the
Lord. (20) But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in
so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. (21) Be not overcome of evil,
but overcome evil with good. Our old man wants to live by defending self and
retaliating, but our obedience to these commands crucifies that carnal nature in us.

Satan seeks through well-meaning people to keep us from this cross. (Mt.16:21) From
that time began Jesus to show unto his disciples, that he must go unto
Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes,
and be killed, and the third day be raised up. (22) And Peter took him, and began
to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall never be unto thee. (23)
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a
stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things
of men. Notice that Peter, by the spirit of Satan was a stumbling block by trying to
dissuade Jesus from going to His cross. Peter later took the sword, to try to enforce his
way and again met with rebuke. (24) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man
would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
(25) For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his
life for my sake shall find it. Even when we are at our best, the hidden carnal nature
must be crucified. (1Pet.2:20) For what glory is it, if, when ye sin, and are buffeted
[for it], ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer [for it], ye shall
take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. (21) For hereunto were ye called:
because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that ye should
follow his steps: (22) who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: (23)
who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, threatened not;
but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously. What could be clearer? We
are to follow in Jesus’ steps by cooperating with God’s process of using the harlot
religious system and the beast kingdom to bring us to the cross.

We are not to resist them by force. The laws of our kingdom do not permit us to fight in
the flesh to escape captivity. (Jn.18:36) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this
world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I
should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. In
the days leading up to a civil war in the midst of the One World Order, many will stand
up against the U.S. as the king of the South. Included among these are some of God’s
people who will try to impose their vision of the kingdom of God in the U.S. by violent
methods, but they will be killed. (Dan.11:14) And in those times there shall many
stand up against the king of the south: also the children of the violent among thy
people shall lift themselves up to establish the vision; but they shall fall. God will
not permit fleshly methods to have any success so that His people learn to walk in the
Spirit. (12:7)…[I]t shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when they have made
an end of breaking in pieces the power of (self in) the holy people, all these things
shall be finished. Notice that our temptation to use our own power must be crucified.
(Zech.4:6)…Not by (our) might, nor by (our) power, but by my Spirit, saith Lord of
hosts. War is of the world and is motivated by lust, not God. (Jas.4:1) Whence [come]
wars and whence [come] fightings among you? [come they] not hence, [even] of
your pleasures that war in your members? (2) Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and
covet, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war; ye have not, because ye ask not.
Those who join with the world to make war on their enemies are enemies of the cross
and of God. (4) Ye adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is
enmity with God? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh
himself an enemy of God.

Those who preach peace and safety, and refuse to cooperate with God in this process
of falling to the earth to die will be cut off. (Amos 9:8) Behold, the eyes of the Lord
are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth;
save that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the Lord. (9) For, lo, I
will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all the nations, like as
[grain] is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least kernel fall upon the earth. (10) All
the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, who say, The evil shall not
overtake nor meet us. We are coming to the same tribulation days of sifting as it was
with Peter. (Lk.22:31) Simon, Simon, behold, Satan asked to have you, that he
might sift you as wheat: (32) but I made supplication for thee, that thy faith fail
not. Even though Peter initially denied the Lord, he got back up and became a strong
leader who gave his old life. Satan is ordained of the Lord to sift the disciples to get the
husk that is his, so that God may have the pure fruit of Christ. Here is a prophecy
through Thomas S. Gibson that relates the persecution the U.S. will bring against
Christianity to separate the true saints from the tares.

Thus says the Lord, repent and listen to the Word of God. Note that there shall be
persecutions arising in all places, throughout the U.S. and Canada, and through
Europe. These nations shall rise up in persecutions against My people. It shall purge
the Church. Those of Mine, that are truly Mine, who walk in power and are committed to
Me, they shall stand in this persecution no matter what it brings. But listen to Me, and
heed Me. For thus saith the Lord, I am God, and I am allowing this, for it shall purge My
Church. For there are many that shall quickly deny Me, shall quickly deny the truth,
quickly revert to a world religion, shall quickly deny the power of the Word; they deny
the truth of the Word. They shall quickly deny many things, and they shall become
politically correct for the day and the age that they live. For they do not want to be in
persecutions and they do not want to stand against the world. They love the world, and
they are part of the world, and they were never part of Me. But they have a form of
Godliness in the Church, and they were in the Church, shining as Christians and looking
as Christians in outward appearance, but in their heart they were not of Me. This shall
purge the Church and bring to pass what I have said; I will separate the sheep from the
goats; that is, My people from the world.

God is sovereign in the happenings of history in order to show us what will happen in
the latter days, for, “That which hath been is that which shall be.” In the time of the
tribulation of Christ’s day, Rome had swallowed up the people of God. Through
Babylon’s type we see that the U.S. will swallow up the people of God before her fall.
(Jer.51:34) Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath
crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath, like a monster,
swallowed me up, he hath filled his maw with my delicacies; he hath cast me out.
(35)The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the
inhabitant of Zion say; and, My blood be upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall
Jerusalem say. Because the U.S. will try to save herself by sacrificing God’s lambs on
the altar of religious unity and political correctness, God will take vengeance on her.
(36) Therefore thus saith the Lord: Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take
vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her fountain dry. (37) And
Babylon shall become heaps, a dwelling-place for jackals, an astonishment, and a
hissing, without inhabitant. … (41) How is Sheshach taken! and the praise of the
whole earth seized! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! (42)
The sea (of men) is come up upon Babylon; she is covered with the multitude of
the waves thereof. (43) Her cities are become a desolation.



Please also listen to the audio series Honor the king? and How Shall We Die? and read
Torment to Those Who Fight Back.


                         THE MILITANT APOSTATES REBEL
                    (excerpt from Hidden Manna For the End Times)
God is raising up this beast kingdom to crucify us as their forefathers crucified our
Master. At the same time, the beast will purge Christianity of those who refuse to go to
their cross of death to self. At first you may think I am wrong about this but if you will
bear with me you will be overwhelmed with proof from God’s Word. Christians
constantly send me e-mails about the conspiracies of the government and the leaders.
Most of this is “he said that she said” stuff with no real proof. Unsubstantiated
accusations are just gossip and forbidden by God’s Word. According to Law no one can
be accused without two or three witnesses. Witnesses see and know personally. We
shouldn’t accept accusations against a government or person without witnesses, earthly
or heavenly. The devil is being permitted by God to stir up conspiracy theories so that
paranoid, disobedient Christians will fight this government and be destroyed. The Lord
said to me, “Spirits of paranoia will stir up Christians to fight against this country. In this
way I will cleanse my Church of those that refuse to obey and go to their cross.”
Conspiracy theorists are the prime spreaders of this paranoia. (Isa.8:11) For the Lord
spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of
this people, saying, (12) Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this
people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread [thereof].
(13) The Lord of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him
be your dread.
You ask, “But David, what about the Illuminati conspiracy that has taken over our
government to bring war and the New World Order?” Fear “him who worketh all
things after the counsel of His will” (Eph.1:11). The Illuminati are nothing without
God’s permission. They and many others like them are sent by God to deceive those
who do not love truth and to judge those who need it. Therefore, we are to permit them
to cleanse the body. (2Thes.2:9) [even he,] whose coming is according to the
working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (10) and with all
deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the
love of the truth, that they might be saved. (11) And for this cause God sendeth
them a working of error, that they should believe a lie:
(12) that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in
unrighteousness.“[T]he lowest of men” are raised up to lead the beast to crucify
rebellious Christians. We need them. (Pr.16:4) The Lord hath made everything for its
own end (Hebrew: His own purpose); Yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Some say, “But I know some of these conspiracies are real.” I do, too, but the flesh is
stirred up to fight when we think on the conspiracies, rather than the promises and the
way of the cross. We are taught to study Truth rather than the evil in conspiracies
because Truth has power unto Godliness, which delivers from evil. (Rom.16:19)….I
would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple unto that which is evil.
Those who are taught to recognize counterfeit bills don’t study counterfeits because
there are too many possibilities. They study the real bills. That way they can recognize
all counterfeits. The Word gives us eyes to see all errors. Some waste all their time
studying evil governments.
All secular governments are evil just as the one in Jesus’ day but He stuck to the
business of the Father, taught the Word, and let patriots like Barabbas fight with flesh
and blood to their own destruction. I also know that this government will persecute and
crucify the saints when the time comes. I say with Jesus, “Not my will, but thine be
done”. If we are not willing to give up our carnal life in order to be obedient to the Word,
then we will not be counted worthy of a heavenly life. Any who stir up God’s people to
take the sword will be guilty of their blood when they die by the sword, as the Word says
will surely happen. Antichristian militant “Christians” will not stand for their rights being
taken away and will fight against their governments. What do you think they will do
when world law is imposed and the mark of the beast is inevitable? Civil war. States are
seeing their Constitutional authority undermined by the socialistic moves of the Obama
administration. Also, a litany of leftist, global U.N. treaties that were resisted by more
conservative administrations are waiting in the wings to give sovereignty to the U.N.
beast over families, women, children, opposing free trade, opposing democracy and
Christian freedom, bringing intrusive emissions laws, etc. Obama is just the man to
open the flood gates. Seeing these coming threats, conservatives in the states are
flocking to introduce resolutions declaring State sovereignty as per the Ninth and Tenth
Amendment to the Constitution. This is an omen of coming division in the country.
Conservatives, including many of God’s people, have already considered armed
rebellion against the U.S. government at least as far back as 2000. The Bush/Gore
presidential voting fraud fiasco revealed the underlying dangerous polarization between
conservatives and liberals. Radio talk shows were abuzz. Ammunition sales rose
significantly as did talk of civil insurrection and state secession. Much of this was by
conservatives. Congressman were openly warning of civil violence. Ammunition and
gun sales began to get worse when the Obama team immediately took the country in a
sharp left turn.
Clearly, the fear of where we are going and the conspiracy theories are corrupting
people’s minds and taking away their peace. Whether you agree with their militant
thinking or not, all Christians will be blamed for these excesses. The liberal news media
will gladly continue to sway popular opinion against their historic enemy, the
conservative Christians. Left wing “Christianity” will, of course, join in this attack
proclaiming to be the true heirs of Christ, while they sleep with the beast in their
politically-correct tolerance of other faiths. What happened to the Jews in WWII will
happen to the Christians and, ultimately, what happened to Germany will happen to the
U.S.. The U.S. will become more antichrist and increasingly hate, persecute, kill, and
bring God’s carnal people into bondage.
Ezekiel, as a type of the Man-child, prophesied that the apostate leadership of God’s
people would be brought into bondage by the “great eagle”, as a type of the U.S. He
also saw and warned that part of that leadership would lead part of God’s people to
rebel against the “great eagle” to their own destruction. (Ezk.17:2) Son of
man…speak a parable unto the house of Israel; (3)…A great eagle with great
wings…came unto Lebanon, and took the top of the cedar: (God’s people were
likened in Scripture to the tall cedar evergreens of Lebanon because of their properties
of eternal life.) (4) he cropped off the topmost of the young twigs thereof (the
immature leadership of Christianity),and carried it unto a land of traffic
(Babylon/U.S.); he set it in a city of merchants (U.N. in New York).
The top recognized leadership of Christianity along with leadership of other religions will
be given a position of authority as a corporate false prophet over the United Religions
harlot. (5) He took also of the seed of the land(God’s people), and planted it in a
fruitful soil; he placed it beside many waters…. God’s people will be put “beside
many waters”, which are the peoples of the world depicted by the “many waters” that
the harlot sits upon in Revelation 17:1,15. Therefore the people of God, righteous or
apostate, will be put under the authority of the harlot as it was in Jesus’ day. (6) And it
grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature (the harlot cannot overcome to lift
herself from the earth), whose branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof
were under him: so it became a vine. The false prophet leadership of the harlot will
rule with the ten kings as the little horn among the ten horns in the U.N. beast under the
“great eagle”, the U.S.
The Lord confirms this interpretation in the text. (12) Say now to the rebellious
house… Behold, the king of Babylon came to Jerusalem, and took the king
thereof, and the princes thereof, and brought them to him to Babylon. The nations
with the U.S. “great eagle” at the head will confirm a covenant with this false prophet
leadership of God’s New Testament people, uniting them with the false religions in the
U.N. in New York. (13) And he took of the seed royal, and made a covenant with
him; he also brought him under an oath, and took away the mighty of the land.
Notice in these verses that the king and all of the princes of Israel were called ”him”
meaning they are a corporate False Prophet. This covenant will be hidden from the
apostates and their leaders. They will fulfill the type of the Jews in Jesus’ day, who
didn’t realize that they had made a covenant with the beast to crucify the saints. To
keep the peace, the Roman beast gave the apostates authority over the saints. History
repeats. The strong delusion of the letter of the Word has already convinced the false
leadership of Christianity of a fairytale covenant between a man called the antichrist and
the letter Jews.
Meanwhile the real covenant will be fulfilled in the spirit under their noses. To them this
could not be the covenant because they have not yet been raptured and their antichrist
hasn’t shown up. This covenant with the beast will make God’s apostate people preach
an even more impotent gospel, because it is a covenant of tolerance for all false
religions and all sinners in a vain effort to bring peace to the world. (14) [T]hat the
kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up, but that by keeping his
covenant it might stand. The apostates will be permitted to stand in the world as the
base kingdom of the religious harlot.
We just saw the word “covenant”mentioned in verses thirteen and fourteen. It was at
this point in my revelation that the Spirit said to me, “From the first mention of the word
‘covenant’ in verse thirteen count. How many verses does the word ‘covenant’ cover?”
Thirteen is the number in Scripture that stands for apostasy and rebellion. Including
verse thirteen, the word “covenant” covers seven verses (13-19). I was impressed that
this represents the seven years of the covenant of the beast in the Tribulation. Then I
heard, “How many times is the word ‘covenant’spoken in those verses?” “Covenant”
is mentioned six times in these seven verses. Six is the number of man and of the
beast. As we saw, the sixth book, sixth chapter, sixth verse and sixth word of the New
Testament is “man” (Rom.6:6).
It was at this point the Spirit directed me to count, “How many verses before the
“covenant”is broken?” In the “midst” of the fourth verse the words “covenant he
brake” are spoken. (16) As I live, saith the Lord, surely in the place where the king
dwelleth that made him king, whose oath he despised, and whose covenant he
(apostate leadership) brake, even with him in the midst of Babylon he shall die.
This also is in the “midst of the seven” verses, which is a quote from the Hebrew in
Daniel 9:27. “And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one seven: and in
the midst of the seven (Hebrew) he (beast) shall cause the sacrifice and the
oblation to cease.” Notice in these two verses that the apostate rebel leadership of
God’s people will break the covenant so the beast will cause the “sacrifice”to cease. At
the time when the crowns of authority will be taken from the seven heads and given to
the ten horns, the beast will make the mark compulsive. This will be a vain attempt to
enforce peace by identifying those who are in covenant with the beast and those who
are enemies and/or commit crimes. This will cause both true Christians and militants to
be enemies of the state. The U.S. already has created the literal mark and is exporting it
to the world. The U.S. will use their persuasion over the beast kingdom to make the
mark compulsive in the midst of the Tribulation. Many apostate Christians will take it
and become reprobated. What is left of their life of submitting their “bodies a living
sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God” will cease as an “abomination that maketh
desolate”.
In this same text we see the nature of this rebellion which breaks the covenant of
peace. (15) But he rebelled against him in sending his ambassadors into Egypt,
that they might give him horses and much people. Shall he prosper? shall he
escape that doeth such things? shall he break the covenant, and yet escape? This
covenant is broken when the rebellious people of God, who were told by God to submit
to Babylon, as we shall see, instead went to another “great eagle with great wings”,
Egypt, for strength to fight with arms against her. (Ezk.17:7) There was also another
great eagle with great wings and…this vine did bend its roots toward him.
Notice that the same terminology is given to describe a second eagle. This is because
both of these great eagles represent the U.S. Foolish Christians in the U.S. will go down
to Egypt to fight with her when they see their rights being taken away or, for some,
when they see the mark coming. What does Egypt represent? God’s people came out
of Egypt and were baptized in the Red Sea where the Egyptians, representing the old
man, died. To go back to Egypt spiritually is to trust in the strength of the old man, the
arm of the flesh. (Isa.30:1) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord, that take
counsel, but not of me; and that make a league, but not of my Spirit, that they
may add sin to sin, (2) that set out to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at
my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to take
refuge in the shadow of Egypt! (3) Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be
your shame, and the refuge in the shadow of Egypt your confusion.
Some of God’s foolish people with a conservative patriotic faction of this nation will take
up arms to fight against it. This pits the “great eagle”against the “great eagle”, or civil
war. God asked the question in our seven verse text: “shall he break the covenant,
and yet escape” (Ezk.17:15)? God’s answer to this question is that these rebels will be
crushed: (17) Neither shall Pharaoh with his mighty army and great company help
him in the war…. (18) For he hath despised the oath by breaking the covenant;
and behold, he had given his hand, and yet hath done all these things; he shall
not escape.… (21) And all his fugitives in all his bands shall fall by the sword, and
they that remain shall be scattered toward every wind: and ye shall know that I,
the Lord, have spoken it.
When Peter used the sword to keep Jesus from going to the cross, He said, “[A]ll they
that take the sword shall perish with the sword” (Mt.26:52). Even though the true
saints will not obey the religious aspects of this peace covenant, they will not take “the
sword” of man and break their covenant with God as the apostates and their leadership
will. The last of the seven verses says this. (19) Therefore thus saith the Lord: As I
live, surely mine oath that he hath despised, and my covenant that he hath
broken, I will even bring it upon his own head. The righteous will keep God’s
covenant even if it costs them their physical life but the self-willed will rebel.
After bringing apostate Israel as a type of the Christians under his dominion in the
beginning of what we would call the tribulation, Nebuchadnezzar appointed the
Zedekiah administration to rule over them. This is the “he” above who rebelled with a
large portion of Israel. Jeremiah, who represented the Man-child, prophesied against
these apostate rebels in the parable of the two baskets of figs. (Jer.24:8) And as the
bad figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so bad, surely thus saith the Lord, So
will I give up Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of
Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt, (9) I
will even give them up to be tossed to and fro among all the kingdoms of the
earth for evil; to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places
whither I shall drive them. (10) And I will send the sword, the famine, and the
pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto
them and to their fathers.
On the other, hand those who submitted to the Word of the Lord through the Man-child
Jeremiah were the blessed of the Lord. (24:4) And the word of the Lord came unto
me, saying, (5) Thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel: Like these good figs, so will
I regard the captives of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of
the Chaldeans, for good. (Notice that this captivity is going to be “for good”to the
“good figs” who obey the Word and refuse to rebel.) (6) For I will set mine eyes
upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land (Notice Father will bring
them to the New Jerusalem and land because Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed the
former apostate Jerusalem and land.): and I will build them, and not pull them down;
and I will plant them, and not pluck them up. (7) And I will give them a heart to
know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God;
for they shall return unto me with their whole heart.
All we have to do is replace the church in the Ezekiel 17 parable of civil rebellion above
with natural Israel and we see another more natural interpretation, which is being
attempted now. The U.S., which is at the head of the nations, is pushing Israel hard to
give up land and make a covenant with the nations around them. Israel’s natural ally in
the United States is the apostate Christians and Jews who militantly support her. Since
this ultimately will be a political and religious covenant both of these interpretations are
coming to pass at the same time. It is certainly true that the beast is forcing both Israel
and the Christians to give up their land now. Beastly laws are forcing Christians out of
the moral ground that they have held on issues such as abortion, sexuality, schooling,
displays of Christian heritage, etc. In the U.S., this holy ground has been held since the
more Christian times of the founding fathers. Eventually Israel and the apostate
Christians will rebel against this covenant and turn to the militant arm of flesh
represented by the great eagle of Egypt. Then they will both find themselves a
burdensome stone that have something in common; the ire of the nations. Perhaps this
is God’s plan to infuse more Christian influence into Israel so that the elect among them
will be saved and come out.



                        In Hell for Unforgiveness
                                Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu

This is the true story of Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu in Nigeria who was raised from the
dead after three days in front of a multitude of witnesses. Pastor Daniel died after a road
traffic accident. His body was in a mortuary for three days and he came back to life
when his wife convinced others that his time was not yet because of previous promises
God had given her. He still has his death certificate, written by a hospital doctor. In the
movie, he recounts his experiences, with amazing computer generated images of both
Heaven and Hell.

The angelic voices that are heard in Heaven are actual angelic voices recorded at a
small church in South Africa. The actual footage of the coming back to life of Pastor
Daniel is shown in the movie. Pastor Daniel is personally interviewed in the movie.

Below is Robin Schenck’s transcription (underlining added for emphasis) of theshort clip
of the videoThe Lazarus Phenomenon. By Johan Sturm, Eternal Productions.

This begins with Daniel dying on the ground.

DANIEL: Suddenly, I had some feelings and for me to look up. I saw two angels.

NARRATOR: When Daniel saw the two angels, he wanted to let his wife know, but the
angel indicated that he should keep silent. Immediately, Daniel's power of speech was
taken from him. Nneka began to cry, fearing that Daniel would die. The angels took
Daniel by his shoulders and lifted him out of the ambulance. Suddenly, Daniel found
himself in another place with one of the angels.

ANGEL: Daniel, I have a lot to show you.

NARRATOR: As he looked out, Daniel saw a place where a multitude of people
gathered and their appearance was like that of the angels. Their color was pure white
and their bodies seemed to glow with radiance. Because of their similar appearance,
Daniel thought he was seeing a gathering of the angels.
ANGEL: This is not the gathering of the angels, Daniel, this is the gathering of the
saints.

NARRATOR: The differences between the saints and the angels were subtle. Their
color is a pure, brilliant white from their hair down to their feet, but the difference is that
the angels have wings, while the saints do not. (Editor's note: The cherubim and
seraphim have wings.) The saints were worshiping God. They worshipped God with one
voice and raised their hands as they were singing. Daniel heard the sound of many
instruments and the sounds were like nothing he had encountered before. He longed to
join these people and moved over towards them, but the angels stopped him.

ANGEL: Daniel, don't go. I have a lot to show you. Take this file and record everything
you see.

NARRATOR: The multitude that Daniel saw were all looking at a bright light that shone
like the sun. It was a source of all the light there.

DANIEL: A very thick, heavy light coming upon them there. Now, they were all looking
at that light as if they are seeing something there, but to me, I cannot look at that light. I
cannot look at that light because it's so dangerous for my eyes. So I tried to budge to
look through, but they were looking through, but to me I cannot look through.

ANGEL: Let's visit the mansions Jesus prepared for His people.

NARRATOR: Immediately, Daniel was in a new place with radiant mansions as far as
the eye could see. It was incomparable to anything he knew on Earth. Though the
appearance resemble buildings, the structure was unusual, not made of any earthly
materials. They seem to be alive, moving.

ANGEL: Daniel, Jesus has finished his work. The mansions are ready, but the saints
are not ready.

NARRATOR: There was a sound of beautiful singing and worship and it seemed to
come from all around. Daniel wondered where the singing was coming from because he
could see no people there.

ANGEL: Daniel, the worship song you're hearing is being sung by the flowers.

NARRATOR: As he looked, Daniel saw the flowers swinging in response to the music. It
actually seemed as if they were clapping their hands, shouting and praising God.

ANGEL: They are waiting for the saints. We are now going to visit Hell. Can you see the
gates of Hell?

NARRATOR: The angel raised his hand and as he brought it down the gates ripped
open with a great noise. Daniel could hear the crying and wailing of many people, but
he could not see any of them. And then a light shone from the angel's body into the
darkness so that Daniel could see more clearly. There were many people there, but
unlike the souls in Heaven, the appearance of these people was as it had been on
Earth. They were from every race, culture and nationality. Every person seemed
trapped in their own personal torment, a torment which would go on for eternity, and
they could not communicate with others. The sounds of crying and wailing were almost
deafening. Suddenly, they all seemed to become aware of Daniel and started crying to
him for help. And they called to Daniel only, as if they could not see the angel.

PASTOR IN HELL: Please ... help! I'm a pastor. I stole money from the church and I
lied. Help me ... please! I'm ready to repent ... help!

NARRATOR: Immediately after the pastor made the statement, the force that was
tormenting him seemed to increase. The people had flesh, but no blood, and they
almost seemed to be on fire, although no flames could be seen. There was a group of
people who were eating their own flesh. They would vomit what they ate and their flesh
grew back. This carried on in an endless cycle of torment.

ANGEL: Those people you see eating themselves, they practiced witchcraft while they
were on Earth. They specialized in eating human flesh and now they'll eat themselves
forever. They are reaping what they sowed.

DANIEL: That place is not good for any human being created by God to go and God did
not make that place for human being; He made that place for the devil and his agents.
But stubborn human beings who will disobey God, like the devil, will also go there. God
has no mind to put any human being in Hell. It's a dangerous and deadly place He
meant for the devil and his people.

NARRATOR: What was to follow was an earth-shattering statement by the angel.
Daniel couldn't have imagined in his wildest dreams that he would hear the judgment.

ANGEL: Daniel, if the book of your life was to be closed today,this would be your
portion.

DANIEL: No! I'm a pastor! I'm a child of God; I'm born again. I preach all over this
country I'm in, the country which I'm in. This country. No. No. This can't be.

ANGEL: Enough. Daniel, on your way to the first hospital you were asking God to
forgive you, but you would not forgive your wife and your sins have not been forgiven. It
is a matter of reaping what you sow. You cannot sow unforgiveness to your wife and
reap forgiveness from God.

Editor's note: Those who die with unforgiveness go to Hell. {Mat.6:14} For if ye forgive
men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. {15} But if ye
forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Those who live with unforgiveness are delivered to tormenting spirits and go to Hell with
tormenting spirits, if they do not repent. {18:32} Then his lord called him unto him,
and saith to him, Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou
besoughtest me: {33} shouldest not thou also have had mercy on thy fellow-
servant, even as I had mercy on thee? {34} And his lord was wroth, and delivered
him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due. {35} So shall also my
heavenly Father do unto you, if ye forgive not every one his brother from your
hearts.

DANIEL: Oh. I knew he made that statement. My spirit convinced me that what the
angel told me or the judgment on me is true. So he said to me that I didn't forgive my
wife, that I'm not forgiven, so while I was crying, crying, crying, shouting and shouting, I
was not crying that I will only say, see how I destroy my soul, look at how I destroy my
soul. While I was shouting and crying, I was afraid. Tears were all over me. I was
panicking because that place is not good for anyone and the way everything was
looking, if God wanted to put me inside Hell, nothing would prevent Him because while
we were discussing, some group of people, thousands of people, were being sent into
Hell.

NARRATOR: People started praying for him, praying for resurrection.

DANIEL: Then the angel said to me that he's sending me back to the world to go and
warn this nation because this is going to be the last warning to this generation.

WIFE, NNEKA: As prayers were going on, then his heart began to pant, life began to
come in his heart. We continued praying and praying, we are praying. As all these
things were going on, he began to breathe gradually, but his body was still stiff.

DANIEL: I saw myself being held by a lot of people. I was naked and put on my dress. I
saw a crowd of people, more than 20,000 people. I looked my left, right, everywhere.
People were shouting, crying everywhere. Some were praising God, some were crying.
I was looking around. I couldn't understand what was happening because to me I was
falling down and I fell into fear, and to me, when I opened my eyes, I saw all hands were
grabbing me. They said to me that I jumped up. I saw this big cathedral, a very big
cathedral. I looked by my right, my left, my front and my back. Everywhere was full of
people. Some people were shouting, some were saying "coffin"; some said "mortuary";
some said "three days." I couldn't understand because my experience was not more
than 15 minutes, so I don't know what they call about three days. To me there was no
night, there was no day; it was only that moment I was into. By now I asked my wife,
"What is happening?" She said I should keep quiet until we get to the house. They
brought me back to my house, this place, with my wife.

Note from Barbara Arroyo: I first heard about this many years ago. My former pastor,
David Servant, went to Nigeria and met him. Yes, that was an incredible story! I guess
this happened back in 2002. Pastor Servant went to Nigeria and investigated this and
even actually interviewed the doctor and mortician and also Daniel himself! This IS an
incredible story!!! There is more information onPastor Servant's website.

Watch The Lazarus Phenomenon for free online



                      The Unforgiving Can Run Out of Time
                                  Rick Sergent - 5/18/12

I received a call from Mary in Indiana and she told me that BW had passed away in her
sleep. They found her in bed, I believe on Thursday morning, 5/17/12. I said, "Well, she
is in heaven," and Mary said, "Yes, she is." I knew BW, but not as well as Mary did. I
remember about three years ago I had invited Mary and her friend BW over to hear a
noted speaker in the area of deliverance. I put them up in a hotel. BW loved the Lord;
she would buy Bibles, Christian literature, such as CDs, DVDs and books. She would
give them away to people who could not afford the ministry items. One area she really
loved was seeing the power of the Lord in the area of deliverance. She always wanted
to be in the assembly of the saints.

Despite all these wonderful things, her life took a turn gradually for the worse. She was
working for this employer. A well-known, large company. The company did her wrong
and cheated her out of her retirement because of an injury that she said had occurred
while employed there. The company, in essence, disagreed with her. She became
angry and eventually very bitter. She would not let it go and it ate her up. She started to
think the company was spying on her and had hidden cameras looking at her. She was
consumed with it. It went to arbitration. In the natural, she probably would have won, but
she kept bringing up the devil and the company thought she was nuts. Well, she lost the
case. People would pray for her but she would not forgive. She would say, "I have
forgiven them," but in reality she was just giving lip service. Mary said this had went on
for about 10 years, her holding unforgiveness and bitterness. She would tell people that
she had forgiven the company, but later poison would just spew out of her mouth.

BW told me that her sister stole her husband away from her. Some say she had
unforgiveness toward her sister. Well, at the beginning, Mary had told me of BW's death
and it was said by her friends that she is now on the streets glory. The Lord immediately
gave me a very clear vision: I saw BW. She had a robe on, but it was not white; it
was not even an off-white. It was a desert tan. I started to get concerned. She was
kneeling down, with her head down. I then looked where she was. The best way to
describe it is it looked desolate! There were no hills; it was just flat. It looked
semi-arid, with little or no plant vegetation. I guess it looked liked a desert.

She had her hands clasped on each side of her face. This was quite troubling to
look at, to say the least. I then looked up and saw from a distance two objects in
the sky, flying relatively low to the ground. These flying objects were coming
toward her direction. When it got closer, it was horrifying to look at. These two
objects were two demonic creatures. They looked liked gargoyles, with bat-like
wings. As each one touched her to pick her up, she raised her head -- the horror
on her face would be something I would like to forget. Then they took her and
flew away, toward the direction from which they came. I watched until I could not
see them any more. Then the vision ended.

Thinking of what I just saw, great sadness came over me and my eyes watered. I
opened the Bible once and my eyes fell on (Psa.6:2) Have mercy upon me, O
Jehovah; for I am withered away: O Jehovah, heal me; for my bones are troubled.
(3) My soul also is sore troubled: And thou, O Jehovah, how long? (4) Return, O
Jehovah, deliver my soul: Save me for thy lovingkindness' sake.

Even if the saints do not repent of unforgiveness, they too could have sickness, disease
and death of their mind, soul and spirit and will ultimately end up in Hell. I have even
asked God to search my heart, to see if there is any unclean thing. The devil puts
thoughts in a person's mind and says things like, "Look at all the wonderful things you
have done for the Lord. You have had your own Bible studies, even led people to Jesus!
You’re okay. Surely the Lord would overlook this!" The victim buys the lie, not knowing
it's the devil feeding it to them directly!

Do not be deceived, my brothers and sisters -- whatsoever a man soweth, thou shall he
also reap. If you sow unforgiveness, you will ultimately reap the Heavenly Father not
forgiving of your sins. Mark 11:25-26 is very clear; Jesus said: (Mar.11:25) And
whensoever ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have aught against any one; that your
Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. (26) But if ye do
not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

Dream of Hell - March 2004

This dream was very real. I dreamed that the Lord took my spirit out of my body to visit
Hell, not for torment, but for observation only. All of my senses were very much alive. I
went to the place of Hell called Outer Darkness. I did not see any flames or demons. I
could feel evil. I could feel the gritty sand-like substance under my feet. Immediately, I
saw four young men. I knew in my spirit their ages were 17-24. They all got there at the
same time. I was about 15 feet from them. They could not see me. This part I cannot
explain: there was a low-level light and I could see their silhouettes. They had chains on
them.

Great sorrow came to my spirit. One of them started to talk. He kept saying over and
over again, "I thought I had more time. I thought I had more time." I recognized that
voice! I knew who he was. His name is B.A. I knew his mother. He was raised in church
most of his life.

I could feel what these young men were feeling. I felt remorse and hopelessness. The
strongest among the two was remorse. It was 1000 times stronger than at anytime I felt
remorse when I was on the earth! It was so real! There was no comparison! It was
horrible. Even if there were no flames, no demons in Hell, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE,
that would be torment enough! People with no hope, no second chances, lost
forever, are eternally separated from God!

Some people have asked me why I did not see the flames or demons. I explained it this
way: If you came to someone's house and they invited you in, you may only see their
living room. If you only see their living room, it does not mean the house does not have
a bedroom. You know there is a bedroom! You do not have to see the bedroom to know
there is a bedroom in the house.

I believe there are different levels or rooms of Hell, as there are different levels of
Heaven. We know there is a lake of fire. There are no souls in the lake of fire until after
the Great White Throne Judgment. The lake of fire does not cover all of Hell. Death and
Hell is a temporary abode until these too are thrown into the lake of fire, after the final
judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

About the young man, B.A. The Lord sometimes gives us visions about the future to
warn people, like he did the Apostle John on the Isle of Patmos, when John saw the
future, to write the book of Revelation. When I saw this, I had not talked to B.A.'s mom
for close to a year. I ask her how was her son doing and if he was going to church
anywhere. She said that she's been asking him to go to church and he has been telling
her he doesn't have time. Remember, in Hell he said, "I thought I had more time. I
thought I had more time!" In the natural, he was busy with buying and building a
house, and working. I knew his mom knew spiritual things, so I told her what I saw. She
believed and said she would tell her son. I have not heard back.

I believe God is separating the sheep from the goats. He is marking His own people.
(Eze.9:4) And Jehovah said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through
the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh
and that cry over all the abominations that are done in the midst thereof. The devil
marks his children SPIRITUALLY AND EVENTUALLY PHYSICALLY.

Update: I never heard back from that mom and her son. A very interesting thing
happened about two weeks ago. I was telling this spirit-filled woman about the vision of
Hell. The next day, she said her first name is the same name as the mom whose son I
saw in Hell. She also said she has a son just like the one I saw in Hell and with the
same first name! Prophecy is multifaceted; it can apply to more than one situation.



Further study:

The Curse of Unforgiveness (series)

Deliverance from Rejection and Its Fear
Rejection, Faction & Healing - Frank Thornton
1 (1:48:09)
2 (38:53)

Forgiveness Must Come From the Heart

Delivered from the Spirit of Rejection

Deliverance from Unforgiveness

Saved from Undiscerned Unforgiveness

Freedom from Unforgiveness

In Hell for Unforgiveness (50:26)



                It's Getting Really Weird Out There
                       J. Lee Grady, Editor of Charisma Magazine

In many charismatic ministries today, basic Christian morality has been hijacked.

How would you feel if your pastor announced from the pulpit that he had uncovered a
new revelation in the Bible? His discovery: That a church leader can have more than
one wife.

Hopefully, you and everyone in the building would run, not walk, out of that church and
never come back until the pastor had been replaced. But I am afraid too many of us
gullible charismatics might stay in the pews and eventually give the guy a standing
ovation plus a $10,000 love offering.

That's how strange it is getting out there. Something has gone terribly wrong in our
movement. Everywhere I turn I find that leaders of so-called Spirit-filled churches are
making bizarre choices that compromise basic Christian integrity. Some examples:

a.. At one charismatic megachurch, staff pastors successfully convinced all their wives
and female staff members to get breast implants. (I wonder: Was this discussed at a
staff meeting?)
b.. A church in California (known for its revival meetings and prophetic ministry) recently
imploded after members learned that several men in the church had been having
homosexual affairs with the pastor, who was married.
c.. A leader with an international following (who wears the label of apostle) recently
informed his leaders that men of God who reach his level of anointing are allowed to
have more than one sexual partner. Then his own son offered his wife to his father out
of a sense of spiritual obligation.
We can all say together: Eeeuuuwww!

What has triggered this madness? The devil is working overtime, yet our discernment is
at an all-time low. Satan's tactics are more brazen than ever. We might as well let him
walk into church on Sunday morning and give him the microphone.

We've been bewitched. What matters to us today are the carnal things. We want flash,
bang and the wow factor. If a person can shout loud enough and get everyone to swoon
at the altar, we don't care how he or she lives at home. Morality is irrelevant.

In 2000 Charisma reported that charismatic preacher Clarence McClendon had
divorced his wife of 16 years, Tammera McClendon, and married another woman after
only seven days. The ceremony was performed by Bishop Earl Paulk, founder of the
Cathedral of the Holy Spirit in Atlanta. Several prominent ministers attended the
wedding, lending their endorsement to McClendon's actions.

Tammera McClendon later informed Charisma that Clarence had told her while they
were married that God had already shown him the woman who would replace her as his
wife.

McClendon left his denomination, the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel,
after his divorce became public. He began a new church, Full Harvest International
Church, which currently meets in Gardena, California. His preaching is aired on the
Trinity Broadcasting Network, and he was a featured guest on TBN's Praise the Lord
program last week.

In fact, McClendon collected the offering during the network's annual telethon. When I
turned on the program and saw him raising money, I stared in disbelief.

How did we get in this pitiful condition? The very pulpits of America have become
defiled because we are unwilling to confront sin. We are playing political games when
the very health of the church is at stake.

Some Christians write letters to me saying: The Bible says we shouldn't judge. Sure
these leaders have stumbled, but no one is perfect. We need to forgive.

What Bible are these people reading? Mine says plainly that it is our responsibility to
judge sin in the church. Of course we forgive, but forgiveness does not involve putting a
preacher back on stage the next week if he just had a serious moral failure.

When the apostle Paul learned that a man was living in an immoral relationship with his
father's wife, he tore into the situation with a vengeance. He said: Are you not to judge
those inside [the church]? Expel the wicked person from among you.

Those are not politically correct words, but they were spoken by a true apostle. If we
want a restoration of genuine, apostolic Christianity in our generation, we need to
dispense with the craziness and initiate some apostolic confrontation.

J. Lee Grady is editor of Charisma and an award-winning journalist. He writes a column
for Charisma Online twice a week.
Note from Dave: I can tell you part of what has gone wrong. The so-called Toronto
Blessing was a Trojan horse bringing in religious spirits disguised as gifts to those who
were willing to depart from the Word.




                       Leaven, Truth and the Bride
                                  David Eells - 10/15/07

In the Church of my youth I always felt the Spirit and joy in worship and fellowship,
which was good and God did not condemn us for that. All denominations have a piece
of the Lord; they just reject one another's piece. That is what makes them a
denomination or sect or division; all of which Galatians calls a work of the flesh. But the
doctrine of my Church was leavened just as in all Churches that don't teach and act on
the pure Word. As it was with me then, you will need to outgrow all that to be birthed to
the next level. This is the way to the Bride. She sits on the highest level of heavenly
Jerusalem and includes the man-child in her body. Those who don’t outgrow sects to be
"one" with the holy elect, as the Shulamite (Hebrew: perfect) Bride was called in Song of
Solomon, will never be in the Bride and instead will be relegated to the queens,
concubines and virgins.
{Sol. 6:8} There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, And virgins
without number. {9} My dove, my undefiled, is [but] one; She is the only one of
her mother; She is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her,
and called her blessed; [Yea], the queens and the concubines, and they praised
her.
The Bride will be taken into the house of the King on spiritual Mt. Zion. The queens,
concubines and virgins will cry to look again at that which was pleasing to the Lord,
which before they had not fully desired to be. {6:13} Return, return, O Shulammite;
Return, return, that we may look upon thee. Why will ye look upon the
Shulammite, As upon the dance of Mahanaim?
The thing that causes us to outgrow the immature churches is a respect for the Word
above all else, including the idolatry that Christians have with these false institutions.
The Word has to be respected above even dreams and visions which the religious
spirits are well able to perform with God's permission so that we may be tried.
Our protection from this deception is always a love for truth and hatred for leaven of lies.
{2 Thes. 2:9} [even he], whose coming is according to the working of Satan with
all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} and with all deceit of
unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God sendeth them a
working of error, that they should believe a lie: {12} that they all might be judged
who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The constant feeding on lies and false spirits must be departed from before the seven
years or one will miss the bride who is chosen before the seven day/year marriage
feast.
{Ex.12:15} Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall
put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from
the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
When there is idolatry with the institutions of men, which holds fellowship and
submission to them higher than fellowship and submission to the Word and the more
righteous, we open ourselves up to deception that comes from the Lord himself. The
denominations of Israel were deceived in this way and the Church has followed the
pattern.
{Eze.14:1} Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me.
{2} And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying, {3} Son of man, these men
have taken their idols into their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity
before their face: should I be inquired of at all by them? {4} Therefore speak unto
them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Every man of the house
of Israel that taketh his idols into his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his
iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I Jehovah will answer him
therein according to the multitude of his idols; {5} that I may take the house of
Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their
idols.
{6} Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Return
ye, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your
abominations. {7} For every one of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that
sojourn in Israel, that separateth himself from me, and taketh his idols into his
heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh
to the prophet to inquire for himself of me; I Jehovah will answer him by myself:
{8} and I will set my face against that man, and will make him an astonishment,
for a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and
ye shall know that I am Jehovah. {9} And if the prophet be deceived and speak a
word, I, Jehovah, have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon
him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
With the scriptures above I only scratch the surface of the problem but I have great
hopes for you to outgrow religion and "follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth."
God bless you dear friend. I will leave you to your decision and pray for you. I hope you
will be in the Bride.
Love from your servant in Christ,
David



                      Harvest Big / Laborers Few
                       Lightning Strikes Churches
Recently in our area a revival, which was manifesting lying signs and wonders was
struck by lightning, which burned up the top floor of the church. What is God saying? It
is amazing to me that people do not believe in a sovereign God who "works all things
after the counsel of His own will" (Epe.1:11). As John said, "A man can receive
nothing, except it have been given him from heaven" (Jn.3:27). Is it God who
controls the lightning?

(2 Sam.22:14, 15) Jehovah thundered from heaven, And the Most High uttered his
voice. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them;
Lightning, and discomfited them.
(Job37:2-5) Hear, oh, hear the noise of his voice, And the sound that goeth out of
his mouth. He sendeth it forth under the whole heaven,
And his lightening unto the ends of the earth. After it a voice roareth; He
thundereth with the voice of his majesty; And he restraineth not [the lightnings]
when his voice is heard. God thundereth marvellously with his voice; Great
things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

(Ps.144:6) Cast forth lightning, and scatter them; Send out thine arrows, and
discomfit them.

If it is a sovereign God who is doing this we have cause to consider what we are doing
wrong. Below is another example of churches in apostasy being struck by a sovereign
God.

Lightning strikes a church during a sermon after preacher identifies thunder as
the voice of God.

[The (Findlay) Courier, 2003]



      A guest evangelist at First Baptist Church in Forest was preaching about
      penance and asking for a sign on Tuesday night, when the church's
      steeple was hit by lightning, setting the church on fire and blowing out the
      sound system.

      "It was awesome, just awesome," said church member Ronnie Cheney,
      40, of rural Forest, who was in the church at 206 N. Martin St. when the
      lightning struck.

      "You could hear the storm building outside ... He (the evangelist) just kept
      asking God what else he needed to say," Cheney said. "He was asking for
      a sign and he got one."

      At about 7:45 p.m., lightning hit the church's steeple, went through the
      electrical wiring and blew out the church's sound system. Cheney said the
      lightning traveled through the microphone and enveloped the preacher,
      but he was not injured.

      Afterward, services resumed for about 20 minutes, but then the
      congregation realized that the church was on fire and the building was
      evacuated.

      According to Forest Fire Chief Doug Hawkin, his crew, along with the
      Kenton and Wharton fire departments, responded to the scene.

      After firemen arrived they saw flames coming from the steeple. Firemen
       doused the blaze, remaining at the scene about three hours.

       "It was kind of interesting hearing the preacher talk about what had
       happened," Hawkin admitted.

       There were no injuries.

       Damage to the church was estimated at about $20,000.




Origins: On 1 July 2003 a bolt from the sky hit the steeple of the First Baptist Church in
the small town of Forest, Ohio, setting it ablaze. That in itself is not unusual — lightning
strikes start a number of fires every year and sometimes the lightning hits churches. (In
fact, the 124-year-old Immaculate Conception Catholic Church in Cecil, Ohio, burned to
the ground on 21 July 2003 after a hit there.) But what elevates this tale above other
similar true stories is what was happening inside the church when the bolt hit.

The Rev. Don Hardman, a traveling evangelist from Virginia, was preaching to the
congregation during the storm. According to the Bible, Mr. Hardman told the crowd,
God’s voice often sounds like thunder. "That’s right, God! We hear you!" he said,
looking heavenward, and — KA-POW! — a bolt of lightning struck the little church:

[The Toledo Blade, 2003]



"There was a big flash right in front of everyone’s eyes," said 15-year-old Erick Smith,
who was sitting in a back pew at the July 1 service. "He was wearing a cordless mike
and I saw sparks of electricity go from his belt buckle up to his microphone."

Erick’s mother, Ronnie Cheney, said there was a "blue aura" in the building as the lights
flickered off and on and the church’s sound system exploded.

"It just lasted a second, but it was pretty wild to say the least," Mrs. Cheney said.

After a pause, Mr. Hardman resumed his sermon and preached for another 20 minutes.

"We tried to focus back on what the evangelist was saying until a neighbor lady came in
the back door and said the lightning had hit the steeple," Mrs. Cheney said. "Then one
of the church trustees said the steeple was on fire."

"I smelled something burning," young Smith said, "but I thought it was the sound
system. We didn’t know it was the steeple."
Meanwhile, several heavy clay tiles had fallen from the steeple and crushed a car in the
parking lot, Mrs. Cheney said. The wrecked car was parked where Mr. Hardman had
kept his family’s motor home until earlier that day, when he moved it because of
problems with a nearby bees nest.

"That was the first miracle, that the tiles didn’t crush the Hardmans’ camper," Mrs.
Cheney said.

Was God goaded by a preacher into making a sign? Or had the deity hit the wrong
church? You see, a similarly-named church — First Baptist Church of Deltona — was
also struck by lightning later that same summer. On 25 August 2003, a Monday, a bolt
to that central Florida edifice wreaked $250,000 worth of havoc. The strike in Ohio
caused only $20,000 damage.

Barbara "practice throw" Mikkelson

http://www.snopes.com/religion/bolt.htm




                       Matthew Stephen Moranor
 Read initial witnesses of Matt's sins below

 Listen to Bob's 7/22/08 interview with Matthew Stephen's sister, Denise

 Listen to Bob's 7/29/08 interview with Matthew Stephen's 30-year minister/military
friend

 Listen to Vincent Xavier's testimony of catching Matt and his girlfriend

 Read A Message From Bob of Spirit 1 Radio

 Read David's reply of July 13: Stealing - False Prophets Because of Sin

 Read David's reply to Matt, Bening, Moranor, Ott: Let the Witnesses and Victims
Speak

 Read Balaam Prophets Teach Fornication, Polygamy, Adultery and Not a Prophet

 Read Matthew Spared By Grace

 Read The Making of a False Prophet
                                          7/11/08

Dear Brethren,
A problem has been put in our hands that grieves us greatly but we must obey the Word
as you will see below. I ask that you be patient with us while we bring to your attention a
situation that is leavening the body of Christ. Some have said that we just had a falling
out with Matthew or we are jealous or we are lying -- none of which is true. We have
nothing to gain from this except persecution but at least we will suffer for righteousness'
sake. We just had a lot of evidence sent to us and must obey Mt.18:15-17 or we cannot
call ourselves elders in God's Church. Anyone who says we should ignore the evidence
from good people is immoral and disobedient to Jesus in these verses. Surely the
victims' rights are more important that the predator's.
We were told that Matthew Stephen would be a good person to have on our program
because he saw many things similar to us. So I contacted him and we talked and in
general the things that we saw coming in the near future were similar. I invited him to
come to UBM and make a program. I told him that we had made very nice
accommodations for him at Bob Aicardi's house. He very curtly said that he would make
his own arrangements with a hotel. I said to him, "Are you sure? You will have the whole
house and pool mostly to yourself." He said he was sure. We discovered the reason for
this is that Matthew has been traveling with at least one young lady who is not his wife.
While he was on the way to us, Bob Aicardi got a word of knowledge that Matthew
would be like another man who turned out to be false and a slanderer of our ministry in
the past. We pondered how this would turn out that way because we had received no
other witness against Matthew up to this time. Within the first 10 minutes of Bob and I
meeting with Matthew he told us that many women were running after him and that he
was trying to discourage this. We thought this was a strange thing to inject in our
discussion about prophecy. We found out that he tells everybody this and it is just a
cover for the fact that he is seen with other women than his wife, whom he is divorcing.
As we spoke with Matthew we discovered that his knowledge of scripture was minimal.
He shared a portion of his timeline clocks with us and I am sure he didn’t even
understand this. I offered to share a timeline with him that was easy to see in scripture.
He said he never did this because it only hindered his gift. I pointed out that if he studied
confusion it would leaven his prophecies but if he studied truth that was easily seen in
scripture it could only help. I said mature knowledge improves our prophecy, as Paul
said in {1 Cor.13:9} For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; {10} but when
that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. {11} When
I was a child, I spake as a child... I told him that the doctrine he had of knowledge
hurting his prophecy is what ruined the Kansas City prophets. All they wanted to hear
was prophecy but didn't have enough respect for scripture in them to protect them from
the Toronto debacle and they fell into sin, as we now know that Matthew also did.
The evidence is that Matthew Stephen, aka Matthew Stephen Moranor, aka Matthew
Steven Moranor (his real name), has been chasing this young sister from our online
assembly (whom I will refer to as "T") for lustful, sexual purposes. T asked to have her
name left out of this if possible and we agreed since we have multiple witnesses of her
testimony and we have not found her untruthful in anything. (Bob spoke with Matthew
and knew immediately that he was lying so he asked to speak to her personally anyway
and she agreed. He came away convinced of her truthfulness and that Matthew was
lying.) On the other hand, Matthew has not been truthful in many proven instances
below nor are his reports to the public about himself honest.
After Matthew left I was contacted by our brother elder in N. Oregon, Rob Stanley, and
his wife Debra. They told me that they had been counseling T who also had been
talking to Matthew. The three of them were witness that Debra had received a word of
knowledge, and she has been accurate, that Matthew had a spirit of lust and some time
later perverseness. Debra then said to T that if he was speaking anything of a sexual
nature to her that he was out of line. At the time Matthew had made her a lot of
promises and had commanded her to secrecy. But the truth came out that he was doing
just exactly what the word of knowledge said -- speaking to her in a lustful, immoral,
vulgar way with words that many of us found too embarrassing to repeat. Rob and
Debra Stanley are faithful brethren and their witness is below. They had to skirt around
Matthew's words somewhat.
(Similar to the above situation, we were contacted by a young sister on July17th from
Toronto who was also very grieved with Matthew. She said he made her many
promises, calling her his Esther, his queen. At first he was just a little sexual with his
comments but quickly it got very vulgar and she ceased communicating with him.)
There is no proof that T has been promiscuous after becoming a disciple of Christ. She
had a relationship with the father of her seven-year-old daughter but has renounced that
for Christ. His attempts to slander her are to save himself. So I called Matthew and told
him we had the records and they witnessed to his lies. He said that he never said he
didn’t call her. I said that I wrote down what you said and it was the opposite of the
evidence. He said, "I was just returning her calls." The record clearly shows that this
was another lie. He called her multiple times between her calls and late at night until the
wee hours of the morning, which she did not do. He said, "She kept wanting to marry
me and I kept telling her that she was too young for me at 38." (She is 34 and young
enough to be his daughter at 54, which he told me was his age.) T said it was the other
way around. He said T had called Robin with four Words of Knowledge from different
people saying that they should marry. No witness has agreed with this.
We have received many witnesses (below) concerning Matthew traveling with at least
one young lady about the same age as T.
We have followed the Lord's command in bringing this objection to Matthew. Rob went
to him and I went to him but he denied everything so the next command is to bring it to
the church. {Mt.18:15} And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault
between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. {16}
But if he hear [thee] not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two
witnesses or three every word may be established. {17} And if he refuse to hear
them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be
unto thee as the Gentile and the publican. ... {1 Tim.5:19} Against an elder receive
not an accusation, except at [the mouth of] two or three witnesses. {20} Them that
sin reprove in the sight of all, that the rest also may be in fear.
I sent our findings to a few elders that UBM is associated with only to find out that
Matthew was already slandering us, as Bob's word said would happen. The reputable
ministries were quick to recognize the problem and act accordingly. Only two did not
and their answers proved that they would not act for the sake of falsely perceived
advantage. Many leaders will duck their responsibility and be as guilty as the Catholic
leaders were in enabling their priests to continue with their fornications to defile many
poor souls. They wanted peace and were interested in keeping up appearances more
than justice. In the same way God is trying leaders through this and some are failing this
test already. They will be remembered, as the Catholics are, for empowering Matthew to
continue in this sin and deceive and defile the people. Some ministries have less
respect for their sisters than their egos. We have NO CHOICE if we are truly Christian
elders than to do what we are commanded in the verses above. God will take His grace
away from those who don't.
Not wanting this to go to the last commanded step of bringing this before the church I
sent Matthew one last email which he refused to answer according to a brother he
spoke to. Below is a portion of it. The rest is being discussed in this text.
Hi Matthew,
Come let us reason together saith the Lord. I ask you to prayerfully consider what I say
from the scriptures here. ...
Also, you should not have pointed your finger at the Kansas City prophets when you
were in the same sin because this always brings judgment back on you as Paul said in
Rom.2. {2 Cor.10:6} and being in readiness to avenge all disobedience, when your
obedience shall be made full. Willful disobedience is not forgiven but always brings
judgment. {Heb.10:26} For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the
knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins, {27} but a
certain fearful expectation of judgment, and a fierceness of fire which shall
devour the adversaries.
God has done all of this because he loves you and wants to bring you to repentance. I
also want to see this. God has just sent us a spirit filled private investigator that we have
known for years to look into your past but I have no desire to do this. Please help me.
When we stop our investigation it means we will sadly have to go to the next step.
God wants to forgive and deliver you now. I will give you my word that if you will confess
your sin honestly from your heart, I and Bob will cast those spirits out of you and you will
be free. ...And no one will hear or see our evidence again, unless you are caught doing
the same thing. The few elders that know about this will be told simply that you repented
and nothing more. You will be my close friend from my point of view. I love people to
repent. I do it myself. Let your sins be cast in the depths of the sea, brother. Will you
please consider this and let me know quickly?
In a week we got no answer back from Matthew. I dreaded going to the last step so I
asked the Lord to give us a verse about going to the church with this because we don’t
want to do anything of our own mind. He gave me this verse below, which along with
the following text says that I would tell the church and some would want their king
anyway but he would plunder them and lead them into bondage.
{1 Sam.8:10} And Samuel told all the words of Jehovah unto the people that
asked of him a king... {18} And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king
whom ye shall have chosen you; and Jehovah will not answer you in that day.
{19} But the people refused to hearken unto the voice of Samuel; and they said,
Nay: but we will have a king over us...
Our UBM elders, which are 5 fold ministers, are in agreement but they have little
bearing on Matthew. Only the elders of other ministries associated with him can do
something for the church under them. I ask that you would examine the evidence below
and if you have an important witnesses of this conduct from Matthew please inform us.
We don’t want any more young girls hurt as T has been.
Your servant in Christ,
David Eells

T: Tuesday, June 17, 2008

I believe the first conversation that I had with Matthew Stephen was May 13, 2008. I
can't really remember, but I think it was the first or second time I had talked to him that
he had asked me to not tell anyone about our conversations, his reasoning was
because he is involved in a ministry, and did not want any gossip. I believe it may have
been the second conversation that I had with him that he began to make light sexual
comments. I remember I kept trying to change the subject, because I was feeling
uncomfortable. As time went by the sexual comments started to progress in vulgarity to
the point I knew something was wrong, and I continued to seek counsel with Robert &
Debra Stanley.

Also, I gave my password and user name to Robert and Debra Stanley to be able to
print off my cell phone records. You should be receiving a copy from them of my
incoming and outgoing calls between Matthew and I.

Sincerely, T

David's notes: I spoke to T and she informed me of the things that she reported to Rob
and Debra Stanley below. Robin, Michael and Richard's testimony is below also.


Matthew Stephen Moranor
Robert Stanley: 6/23/08
I have been counseling T since October 2006. I have had many phone conversations
with her giving scriptural counsel. My wife, Debra, has had many more conversations
with T of a more personal friendship nature and mentoring her as an older woman
teaching a younger woman.
On May 11th or 12th, 2008, I had a long conversation with T about her desire and
obsession of finding a husband and getting married and how it had become an idol and
that she needed to repent and trust the Lord to send her the man of God that He has
been preparing for her. I encouraged her to begin allowing the Lord to prepare her to be
a true woman of God for the man of God the He would bring to her. She acknowledged
her idolatry, repented and began to seek the Lord.
On May 13, Debra told me (via T) that Robin had given Matthew T’s phone number. I
sent an email off to Robin, asking her to call me as soon as possible. Robin called and I
asked her to not encourage T in any way to pursue a relationship with anybody. Debra
told me that T had gotten Matthew’s phone number from his web site and that she had
called him. Matthew told T that he would call her back.
Over the next number of days, Debra had numerous conversations with T. She had
expressed that Matthew requested her to commit to him that she wouldn’t say anything
about their relationship and conversations to anybody. T expressed how difficult this
was, as she needed counsel regarding Matthew and this new relationship. Initially, it
seemed prudent that their relationship wasn’t general knowledge. As time passed, T
began asking questions and making comments that started raising concerns. The
impression we got from T, even very early on—within the first week, was that Matthew
was actively discussing marriage. It seemed as though it was something that he was
quite interested in. Our concern was that this was premature and too early in their
relationship to be so openly and seriously discussing marriage. Eventually, on May
24th, T said that Matthew “ok’d” her to talk to us about their relationship. It was in this
conversation over a speakerphone, that Debra had a word of knowledge that Matthew
had a spirit of lust. Debra commented to T that if Matthew had made any type of sexual
comment to her, that he out of line an inappropriate. T’s silence (in the form of a long
pause) spoke volumes to us. Debra and I became quite concerned about what had
been taking place and the true character of Matthew.
Debra had numerous conversations with T over the two weeks. It wasn’t until Matthew
was on his trip through the southern states that T divulged the extent of the sexual
comments made by Matthew.
After becoming aware of the perverse comments that Matthew was making, I tried
contacting him, to call him to repent and be delivered. I called on Thursday evening,
June 12 and got Matthew’s voice mail. I left a message identifying myself as an elder
with Unleavened Bread Ministries and asked him to call me, as I would like to discuss
something with him. I left my home phone number and asked him to call ASAP. After
not hearing from Matthew, on Friday, the 13th, at 9:30 am PST (12:30 pm EST), I once
again called Matthew. Matthew answered and I introduced myself. Matthew was
exercising on a treadmill. He stated that he tried calling and wasn’t able to get through.
On our home phone, we have both an answering machine and voice mail. People
generally do not have a difficult time leaving a message. If we receive a call and the
caller does not leave a message, our voice mail still records the call as a missed call.
We did not have any messages from Matthew, nor did we have any missed calls during
that time period. It took Matthew a few minutes to catch his breath. During this time, I
asked him how the meetings were going. He said that they were going very well. There
was good attendance, etc. After a few minuets of “small talk”, I stated that I had major
concerns regarding some comments that he had made to T. I stated that I was calling to
call him to repent of his actions (comments) and that he needed to be delivered from the
spirit of lust and from a perverse spirit.
Matthew immediately attempted to divert the conversation and commented that he had
been puzzled in how to break off contact and communication with T. He stated that she
was continually calling him and that he was troubled in how to get her to stop calling
without hurting her. I attempted to bring the conversation around to the comments he
had made to T. I stated that T had told my wife Debra, who passed it on to me, that he
had told T that he “wanted to spank her with” …(as I phrased it to Matthew)… “a certain
part of his anatomy”. Matthew’s response was to “laugh-it-off”, and immediately turn any
responsibility back to T and brought up her promiscuous past and how she was
continually calling him. His response was to shift any blame and would in no way
acknowledge any inappropriate comments. I pointed out that if there was any hidden sin
in his life, he needed to repent. I told Matthew that the position he is in, by calling others
to repent and turn from their wickedness or else there would be a death judgment, was
in essence putting himself under that same death judgment if he didn’t repent. I told him
that because of the disparity between his position and what T had related to us and his
denial of any such comments, I was going to have to take the matter to David. Matthew
said that he’d prefer that I, as an elder of UBM and T and he work this out privately and
not bring David into it. I informed Matthew that with as much exposure as he was getting
on the UBM broadcasts, it would be irresponsible and negligent of me to not inform
David. I asked if he was divorced, he said he and his wife had both signed the divorce
papers, that the divorce was filed and they were in the “waiting period”. I asked why
they were divorcing. Matthew said that four years ago his wife had committed adultery
and that she was the one who filed for the divorce. I told Matthew that he could not,
under any circumstance, have any further communication with T. He agreed to not
contact her.
(Unfortunately, this paragraph has graphic evidence of Matthew's perversion since no
one can be convicted without it. If you don’t need to read this stop here and skip this
paragraph or let the husband in the house read it.) As a side note, unfortunately, it is
necessary to present specific information regarding the type of sexual comments that
were made to T. Matthew discussed his size when erect; specifically as being 9” and
that he “wanted to spank her with it”. Another example is that Matthew said, “It is hard
for me. I have a strong desire all the time to have sex. On a trip, when I come back to a
motel, I want to have my wife there and do it to her.” Matthew was at Wal-Mart (while on
his trip to the south) and told T that he was on a spiritual high. He told her that this is
what he was talking to her about—a spiritual high that makes him get sexual. It was at
that point that T said, “You’re crazy.” Then T called Debra and said, “He’s crazy, just
crazy.” She opened up and revealed Matthew’s sexual comments as I have stated them
above.

Matthew Stephen Moranor
Debra Stanley: 6/23/08
Please understand that other than a Word of Knowledge from the Lord, all of this
information came to me from T on virtually a day-to-day basis. I have never
communicated with Robin in this matter.
One evening, I believe May 11th, Rob had a long conversation with T regarding the
placing of an idol (pursuing a husband) before the Lord. He told her that she needed to
seek the Father before anything or anyone else. He had spoken with T about this
before, but this evening he made the point of doing what he could to get the point
across to her. He expressed how important it was and she received this. She repented
and started to seek the Lord, and Him only.
The next day, later in the day, I spoke with T and she had spending a lot of time that
day in the Word (and I believe in worship). She sounded much better, not anxious nor
edgy. She was desirous of following the counsel of the Lord to seek after Him.
I believe that it was the day after that T called telling me about a conversation that she
had with Robin. I do not remember who called whom to start this whole thing off, but the
gist of the conversation was that Robin told T, “You are getting married.” Then, at some
point, Robin gave Matthew T’s phone number and told T that she wanted to give T
Matthew’s number. At this point, T called me asking what I thought she should do. I told
her that she should just wait, keep seeking the Lord, and not to get all crazy. The next
day when I talked with her, I told her that if she does get his number, not to call him.
She needed to wait and see if he was going to call her. I talked with her about proper
order, etc. Then, T said, “What if I already did call him?” We talked a bit about that. She
had called him and I believe he said he would call her back. He did.
I do not remember hearing much from T for a few days. (Other than a conversation in
which she told me that Matthew discussed their age difference. He is 53; she is 34.) He
told her that he did not have a problem with it if she didn’t. He also asked about
children. Did she want to have any more? She did not commit one way or the other
because she did not know what he wanted. When he said that he didn’t want to have
any more children, she said that she did not want to either. Then she and I talked a bit.
She said she “didn’t have anyone to talk with”. Matthew had told her to keep everything
quiet. He didn’t want anything to get out to anyone. At this point, I told her that it could
be that he is being protective of the ministry, in that I was sure that he had seen the
wagging tongues and slander and malice over the years. I encouraged T to abide by his
wishes until he thought it safe to release information. I thought it was good training for T
if she was indeed going to be involved with someone in a formal ministry situation.
This went on for many days. T could not tell me anything and was exasperated.
However, she did ask me questions. One such question again had to do with why he
would want to keep it quiet. A few days went by. I talked with her daily, but she was like
a little kid just bursting to talk about something.
Another question she had was about courtship. She wanted to know what a Godly
courtship would look like. She was hinting around physical touch parameters without
saying so. I was unsure if they had met in person just yet, but thought maybe she was
just getting herself ready to approach this correctly. I told her about a young couple in
our assembly and the parameters we have suggested for them. That seemed to answer
her questions, but she still had an uneasiness about her. I took this to be her
questioning of the unknown for when they actually did get to meet.
During this time, Rob asked her if, when speaking with Matthew, she had completely
disclosed her relationship with her daughter’s father. T said that she had for the most
part, but that she would address the subject again with him so it was clear. She also told
us that Matthew had something about a recent situation in his own life that had
happened, but was taken care of.
She continued to almost be bursting at the seams. After ten days of this, Matthew gave
his consent for her to talk with Rob and me, but only us, no one else. He told her that
we would have to keep this to ourselves, as well. When she did talk to us the first time
after his okay, (Saturday, May 24th), she was relieved to be able to talk with someone
about some things. [At this point, however, there were still many things Matthew had not
released her to talk about.] In this particular conversation with her, Rob and I were on
the speakerphone with her as most of our three way conversations are. T was once
again asking about the courtship guidelines. “What kind of things are they supposed to
say?” Then, I saw it – a spirit of lust. (I had no reason for thinking such a thing.
Currently, I had been thinking nothing but the best of Matthew as I was considering him
to possibly be someone for T.) I told T that if he was speaking anything of a sexual
nature to her that he was out of line. She did not reply to my comment. (It was, of
course, because Matthew had told her to not mention such things.) I believe that it was
in this particular conversation that T said that she had scene (dream or vision, I do not
know) herself and her daughter (7 yr old) at the White House. Matthew had told T that
he was going there and that there may be a possibility that she would be accompanying
him. The other things in that conversation had to do with the excitement of finally being
able to talk about some of these things – about him living in the mountains in
Washington, about helping him in the ministry – “You know that you will have to talk with
groups of people. Do you have any problems with standing beside me in front of large
groups of people?” Then other comments about how the Lord told him that He would
give him his Esther when he returned back to Washington after this trip. I do know that
Rob talked with her at length during this phone time about purity of relationship before
the Father. (I do not remember if all of these comments were from this particular
conversation, but I think so.)
Rob and I were then talking with her multiple times a day. I could tell that there was still
something bugging her, but knew it was not something she could discuss. I asked her a
few times, “Are you okay?” She would respond with a “Well, yeah, I guess, there are
just some things I don’t get. But they are things that I, well…)
Matthew was preparing for his big trip and would be speaking in Costa Mesa on the
31st of May. He asked T to ask us to be sure to listen. We were in California at the time.
We had had a go ahead from the Lord regarding going. Before we left for California,
Matthew told T that the Lord had confirmed to him that something was indeed going to
happen in CA during the month of June and he wasn’t supposed to be there. It
concerned T that we would be there at that time. We were careful to seek the Lord in
this regard. Boy! Is He faithful. Anyway, we did watch and listen to Matthew on
Saturday, May 31st. This was the first time I had the thought, “Okay, let’s see some
verification of past dated dreams/visions with the verification of those things being
manifest in the physical.” I did not speak this to anyone, but caution was there.
I continued to talk with her daily, sometimes numerous times. It seemed that she
needed to have someone to just be with her. She was confused about the things he was
saying and the things she felt the Lord was showing her. He was talking to her about
traveling. He told her that she knew she needed to get out of Grand Rapids. He told her
many times, “Why don’t you just go stay with those people in Oregon.”, “Can’t you just
go stay with the people in Oregon?”
I remember T saying one time that this trip was taking a toll on him. She said that he
was exhausted. She and I talked about a trip like this, the number of hours involved, the
numbers of people groping at you and wanting your time, etc. She said that a number of
times she had told him that they needed to hang up ‘cuz he was so tired and needed
rest. His reply was, “No, I just want to talk to you.”
On Sunday, June 8th, T was talking to us about getting the paperwork in order to move
out of state. [T’s daughter’s father has to okay T moving out of state before court
authorities. Or, if he does not contest it, they can leave.] Matthew was encouraging her
to do so. He told her that she really wouldn’t even have to go through all of that because
he knows another woman with a child that just left the state and they never came after
her.
On either Wednesday, June 10th, or Thursday, June 11th, T called me. She was very
upset. She started just talking, not making much sense really. I started asking her some
questions and then the dam broke loose. She said, “Ya know, I just don’t care anymore.
I don’t care if he gets upset. He’s crazy. He’s just crazy.” She was crying almost
uncontrollably and was deeply hurt. She was going on about him being at a Wal-Mart
and talking crazy. (This is when I found out that his “talking crazy” was of a sexual
nature. She had used this term before when speaking about him, but whenever I tried to
pin her down, she said, “Never mind.”) She said, “Here he’s going into a store,
nonetheless. What is he thinking? This is just wrong! He’s crazy.” She continued on, no
specifics. I then got the sickest feeling in my stomach. I knew that I had been up against
this spirit before – a perverse spirit. I did not tell her what I knew. I just kept trying to
calm her down and listen to her. At some point I said to her, “Don’t have any other
contact with him T.” She said, “Like I want to. Why would I want to do that?” We had
much time on the phone that afternoon/evening, as she was now able to TALK.
Here are some things that had been bothering her:
He had speaking things of a sexual nature to her. He was telling her she was his bride.
She knew that secular men had made sexual comments to her, but didn’t know what to
expect from a godly man. She thought it should be different than this and that’s why she
asked me all of those questions about courtship.
One of the other things that stands out in my mind is this comment: “God had told me
that I was going to marry a woman named T who was 5’7”. [This was after he already
knew her height.] In fact, when I was marrying Mary [his current wife of 25 years…in
process of divorce], I said to the Lord, “Hey, what about T, 5’7”? Whatever happened to
her?”
Another thing that she mentioned to Rob and me was the following conversation:
M “Have you been fixed?” because the Lord had told him he would not be raising any
more children.
T “Wait. Wait a minute. You knew I had a child from the beginning. I’m not going to go to
a doctor.”
M “Then what are you going to do?”
T “Wait on the Lord. Trust Him.”
Two things of a spiritual nature that I remember bothering her:
(1) She brought up his confirmation from the Lord regarding disaster in CA in June.
“Remember when I told you that? That seemed weird to me. ‘What do you mean you
got confirmation? You are already speaking to everyone. Shouldn’t you have gotten
conformation before telling everyone?”
(2) On the UBM broadcast June 4th, Matthew said that he knows how to interpret
dreams, but the Lord has told him not to do so. If you have a dream, he told the listening
audience, that God would show them the meaning. That night on the phone, T asked
him about this as we do a lot of dreams with interpretation in UBM and in Bread of Life
(our fellowship here). He told her that he knows how to interpret dreams, but just
doesn’t like to. Big difference, T realized, between God telling you something and you
just not liking to do it.


Robin, UBM Admin.: Sunday, June 15, 2008
I contacted Matt Stephen via telephone back in, I believe, April 2008, after reading
numerous revelations, prophecies, and reviewing his Map of Destruction on his web
site. My intent was to ask Matt for a more specific word, if he had any, as regards the
prophetic future of the city where I currently live. This phone contact was made in early
to mid April 2008, though I cannot recall the date. T says he first called her on May 13,
so I do believe I would have had my three or so telephone conversations with Matt at
the very least one full month and a half before May 13.

In the first phone conversation I had with Matt he did indeed mention his troubles with
women following him around wherever he traveled to issue his prophetic warnings.
There was at least one married woman who minced no words about desiring some kind
if inappropriate relationship with Matt, this according to Matt, of course. He told me at
one location he went to this married woman came in and sat down and he looked right
at her and asked her: Where’s your husband?, or words to that effect. He let me know
he was bothered by the forwardness of women.

Matt was very frank about his desire to remarry. Said he is divorced. (David's note:
According to the records, Matthew's divorce would not be final until July 25th.)
Impression I got was that he has been divorced for quite some time, maybe I thought
years, but I can’t remember how long I thought he had been divorced, just that he had
been divorced and his kids were grown or nearly so. I did not discuss his marriage with
him much at all.

Based on what Matt told me about women chasing him around and how annoyed he
sounded about it, I told him, Leave all women alone; most of them are crazy anyway.
Just leave women alone if you possibly can. Matt confided in me that he was alone and
wanted to remarry, though, that he really couldn’t be alone though he was well aware of
scriptural admonition that it’s better if you don’t get married. As the scripture also says,
not everyone can receive this saying. I felt sorry for Matt. I also was well aware he was
telling me all this to see if maybe I might be interested. No direct question was raised to
me, but by the gist of the conversation I was not blind to his intent. I simply wasn’t
interested in biting that carrot, so to speak, so I very consciously did not suggest any
possibility of interest on my part.

Over the ensuing weeks between early April and early May, I believe I talked to Matt
another one or two times by phone. He was quite personable, friendly, straight forward,
seemed honest. In his loneliness he compared himself to Jeremiah. He was also
sounding like he was doing a lot of running around and spending late nights writing
down what the Lord was telling him to write as far as prophetic warnings of things to
come. He sounded tired and at the very least in dire need of meaningful conversation
with Godly persons, Christian community. I thought about Matt’s situation regarding his
desire for a wife. He just wanted a Godly woman; that was his major desire, his major
concern.

Matt was on UBBS first before May 13. For a few days or a week before this T came
into my mind as possibly someone who might be good for Matt. I did not like the age
difference and pushed her out of my mind several times. But she kept coming to mind
anyway. I figured maybe it was that little nudge from the Lord that he wanted me to
introduce them. Finally, the morning after Matt had been on UBBS, T came heavily to
my mind again and I decided to call her and ask her permission to give her number to
Matt. I told T I had someone I wanted her to meet. I gave only his first name, the state
where he lives, and T wanted to know where I knew him from. I told her UBM and she
was very glad to hear that. She quizzed me for his last name, but I would not tell her.
She told me she thought she knew who it was; I told her I knew she knew who it was.
We went back and forth until I told her to tell me who she thought it was. She guessed it
was Matt Stephen. Knowing T as I do, I knew she knew anyway. The night before when
he was on UBBS she had a very strong knowing that she really wanted to meet this
Matt; that he would have something important to do with her life, possibly a marriage.
Indeed this very subject had come up with Deb Stanley only that morning before I‘d
called her to ask for permission to pass her number on to Matt.

T was excited about the prospect of meeting Matt; said she’d thought a great deal about
him, mentioned how impressed she was with his presentation to the UBBS family, and
felt very strongly agreeable to talking to him. She gave me permission to give her
number. I emailed Matt and told him I would like him to meet a Godly woman I know. I
believe Matt called me that day and we talked a little while about T. He said he’d call
her.

T had been counseling only that morning or night before with Deb Stanley and Deb had
just been telling her that an older and more mature man would be the likely best choice
for T, so that was sort of a confirmation for T and Deb and I that, well, maybe this could
be a good match. Frankly, a Ruth and Boaz situation occurred to my mind.

T in her excitement looked up Matt’s phone number on his web site and called him first,
which was of concern to both myself and Rob Stanley. Rob had called me to talk about
the impending match-up with concern that she might call him first. We were hoping
she’d just wait for him to call her. Oh well.

Early on Matt sequestered T by warning her not to talk to anybody about their
conversations. I respected that just because I thought it made sense, him having the
calling on his life that he does. Makes sense he can’t be too careful. None of their
private conversation, it seemed to me, was anybody else’s business until something
developed that needed to be presented to David. I never considered it would be
something negative though. I expected a marriage between two obviously Godly
people. Such is clearly not the case.

I had only a very, very few conversations with T once she began talking with Matt, so
early on what scant information I had was that things were “going good” according to T.
At no time did T tell me there was anything untoward being said by Matt. After a recently
prophetic video conference Matt participated in with Vince Xavier, Benjamin Baruch,
and Patricia Xavier out in Temecula, California, I called T to see what she thought of
Matt’s appearance. She was okay with it. Their telephone conversations continued. T
said he would generally call her pretty much each night.

Then I did not hear from T until last week she called me and was nervous just because
she’d sent him a picture of her via email and wondered what he would think of her
appearance. Still nothing was said about anything untoward being said by Matt.
Apparently T was in regular contact, though, with her UBM assigned counselors the
Stanleys and quite a different story was already emerging of Matt’s character, and it
was certainly not good as I have been informed as of yesterday 6/14 by David Eells.

Looking back, I will state that Matt struck me as a bit cocky, which I chalked up to his
important calling. Perhaps over time he’d calm down, I thought, and resist the
temptation to give in to going overboard with pride. It is obvious now that he struggles
with some considerable pride issues though. (David's note: Both myself and Bob have
received witness of a spirit of pride in Matthew, which is usually dealt with by the Lord
through failure.)

When he was on the Daniel Ott show, www.theedgeam.com , a phone call came in from
a woman who wished to inform the Ott listening audience of an existing domestic
violence complaint against Matt. This phone call was deemed not necessarily credible
by Daniel Ott and I am sure others listening as well, certainly by me, and who knew that
she wasn’t just an angry ex-wife looking for revenge. Now I wonder what that is really all
about.

I talked to T for quite a while Saturday the 14th and she was quite upset about the spiral
downward in Matt’s conversation with her over time. She informed me he’d really
caused her some confusion with his wild sex talk and had merely played with her head,
so to speak, in many ways with his illicit language and increasingly domineering
manner. One thing that particularly upset her is that though Matt knew before he called
her that she is the mother of one young child, he began asking her if she would give
custody of the child to the bio dad, (who is, from T’s report, no good at all, irresponsible
and basically flinging himself from relationship to relationship anyway) in order to devote
herself to full-time travel with him as his wife. This among the many other selfish and
perverse things stated by Matt to T served to confuse this young woman who had done
yeoman’s work over the last two years to straighten out and Christianize her own
personal walk with the Lord; as now she struggled to try to understand how a Christian
courtship should actually be conducted. She knew how secular men had talked to her in
the past, but she did not expect such vulgar talk from a Christian man who seemed to
have such a major and Godly prophetic call on his life. She in the recent end became
greatly disturbed, disgusted and angry and desired that he not call her anymore. Rob
Stanley has also talked to Matt and told him it would be unwise for him to continue
calling T at all. Matt so far as I know has respected that advice and ceased calling.

T did inform me of the increasing difficulty of getting the truth out of Matt as regards
whether he was talking to other women also and talking to them in the same manner as
he was talking to T; that is, at once being romantic but then vulgar and drawing women
in with false promises and lurid suggestion. She caught him in a number of lies.
Innuendo became the dominating theme of their conversations.

Both I and the Stanleys would tell you that T for her part is a young woman who’s been
through a lot of dysfunction in her life and has not had the benefit of much good
parenting. Her parents divorced when T was young, she being the eldest of four
children, and she was raised by her mom primarily. Both parents are remarried to
different people and T has basically been set adrift to fend for herself. The Stanleys, I
believe, are the closest thing to parental guidance that T has had the last year and one-
half. I have been sort of an adjunct friendly counsel to T for about that long also. T has
learned very quickly how to set boundaries around herself so as to not allow men to just
run roughshod over her life, demanding her time and energy. She has kept herself out
of trouble by counseling extensively with the Stanleys and has been diligent to follow
their Godly counsel, so far as I know. I’ve had no bad reports from the Stanleys about T
and I have none to give myself based on my numerous telephone conversations with
her. There is a lot of good in T and she strives earnestly to live Godly as she ought.



(These brethren came to us not knowing of the other problems we have had with
Matthew.)

Michael Hare: Thursday, July 3, 2008

Here is a short sequence of events of June 13, 2008 in Little Rock, AR.

I pulled in to the Royal Arms Hotel parking lot in West Little Rock around 6:15 PM. I
observed Matthew Stephen and a young lady walking from the back of his car and into
the hotel. I got out and went inside and introduced myself to Matthew and the young
lady. As I remember, he introduced her as his intercessor from AR.
We talked a few minutes and then I had Matthew follow me over to the meeting place.
The young lady got back in the car with Matthew. She was an attractive 35 to 40-year-
old lady, dressed like a businesswoman. During the one break we had at the meeting,
Matthew's attention was entirely on her. I had to go to the men's room for a minute.
When I got back they were conferring together. They had a quiet conversation almost
the whole time. It was pretty obvious to any that were around, that that picture didn't
look right.
After the meeting was over, instead of staying around and seeing if anyone had any
questions or even to fellowship, Matthew and the lady abruptly left together. The whole
thing didn't seem right to me or others there. I remember what Lester Summeral said
one time when he picked up a lady on the highway because of car trouble. She started
to get in the front seat and he stopped her and told her to get in the back. The front seat
was reserved only for his wife. In other words, there shouldn't be any sign of impropriety
on the part of anyone calling himself a Christian, especially someone recognized as a
Prophet of God. I have talked with some of the people that were in attendance since
then, and there were concerns about the incident. So it didn't go unnoticed.
(Kathy, a young lady, was staying in a hotel room with Matthew when he was corrected
by elders. He says he has now married her but without a license and before his divorce.
That's at least two, counting T, and a possibility of three young women.)

Richard Fuller: July 4, 2008
Greetings from Arkansas, my name is Richard Fuller. I am a former Southern Baptist
minister who was ordained and commissioned as an apostle in July of 2005 in a
Southern Baptist church, believe it or not. My wife and I have been ministering in the
last few years in the US, Central America, Dominican Republic and Africa. God has
opened a door for us to move to Greece this fall to do an apostolic work (planting
churches). I share this with you to give God all the glory for what He is doing through
His people and to give you a little history of the ministry God has called me into.
Michael Hare asked that I e-mail you about the recent Matthew Stephen meeting in
Little Rock, Arkansas on June 13, 2008. For some time, I have been watching, judging
and testing according to Scripture a lot of the so-called prophecies being spoken about
America. I've been interested in many that I have read because of the witness in my
spirit by the Holy Spirit and also how some of the prophecies line up with Scripture. I
have a very close friend who is a true prophet of God who has traveled with me on
many trips to other countries ministering the Word of God. He has had many dreams
and visions of what is coming to America if America will not repent and turn to God. Let
me also say, I appreciate very much all of the information; teaching, prophecies and
testimonies that you share on your website. Getting back to the reason I am emailing
you, I had some problems with some of what I saw or perceived in the meeting in Little
Rock with Matthew. To be honest, I was very close to standing and in love bringing
rebuke to Matthew. I did not feel that I had a platform at that time to bring rebuke nor do
I feel it would have been received. I was not going to say anything about how I felt until
a week or so after the meeting when Bro. Michael called me to see what I had thought
of the meeting. It was at this time I shared my perceptions with him. I felt there was an
integrity issue when Matthew entered the meeting with a woman who was not his wife
whom he called one of his intercessors. When I arrived at the meeting and met Bro.
Michael for the first time, I asked him where Matthew was and he told me that Matthew
was out in the car praying with a woman. This raised strong integrity issues not only in
the natural due to appearance but also in my spirit. As a matter of fact, my wife and I
discussed this issue as soon as the meeting was ended and we saw Matthew and this
lady rush out to the parking lot to leave. If I'm not mistaken, they left the building before
anyone else did.
A few days ago I awoke early in the morning and I believe I was led by the Spirit to go to
Matthew's website and read one of the prophecies he had written back in 2002 called
"War is Coming". At the end of the document, he talks about his view of five fold
ministry and how he believes that he can walk in all five of the offices at any time. This
type of theology with respect to these five ascension gift ministries (Ephesians 4) has
caused Matthew to become somewhat of a lone ranger. No plurality many times means
no accountability. When a supposed man or woman of God walks alone apart from the
ministry offices given to the body of Christ (Ephesians 4) he or she can very easily fall
prey to the Jezebel spirit, which can destroy the man or woman of God through control,
manipulation, sexual immorality, etc.. If what I have heard from Michael and felt in my
own spirit is true, Matthew not only needs our prayers but he also needs to be
confronted in love and given the opportunity to repent. I believe it would help if he is
approached by someone whom he knows and maybe trusts.
On a more personal note, at the end of the meeting Matthew began giving what I
sometimes call pillow prophecies to different individuals. I believe very much in the nine
gifts of manifestation of the Spirit such as word of knowledge and have operated in this
gift many times but I did not receive a witness in my spirit with all of the words of
knowledge given that night. Matthew spoke a word to me that neither my wife nor I
received as being from God. Immediately after the meeting, as Matthew was gathering
his things to leave, I asked him if God had said anymore to him about Greece since he
had prophesied about the earthquake that happened in Greece a few weeks earlier and
he said God had told him that many people would move to Greece from the US and it
would become a spiritual hub for that region of the world. I told him that was very
interesting because my wife and I were moving there this fall to do an apostolic work.
He looked at me very funny (possibly because the word he had given me earlier didn’t
match with me doing apostolic work) and he then quickly went to ask Michael for the
directions to his hotel and he and the lady left the building.
I hope some of this information helps. Judging and having to bring rebuke to a member
of the body of Christ is the part of ministry that we may not particularly care to do but
according to Scripture it is very necessary. There could be tremendous damage done to
the body of Christ if this situation is not dealt with, especially with respect to the true
prophetic ministry. I have confidence in the Lord that you will do this with much love. I
will be in prayer for you and others who will be involved.

David: July 9, 2008
Please pray for Matthew to repent and be restored. Eternal life is more important than
the pleasures of sin for a season. Ministers, please insist that he repent before loosing
him on the poor flocks.
I did call him today to try one more time to reason with him and this time he picked up. I
told him again that we would be glad to pray for him if he would just confess his sin. He
cut me off saying, "We have decided that we are not going there. Stephen Benning is
here and other brethren. This girl just has a problem." It is clear that he is seeking
division. So I told him about all the witnesses that he was traveling with a young woman.
(We have three other written witnesses that he appeared to be doing this but there are a
lot more who have seen this in conferences. I had just gotten off the phone with a
respected prophet, Vincent Xavier, who said that he had discovered Matthew staying in
a hotel room with a young girl, Kathy. He told him that traveling with this girl at least
gave the appearance of sin and wasn’t right. I respect him for this as being one of the
few who would obey the Word and stand up for Jesus. So Matt came back later and told
them that he went and got married and had the paperwork and everything. (I was sent
this from Gary: "Matthew admitted on The Edge video that he didn't have a marriage
license, so he did marry himself... it's easier to divorce yourself that way when she is no
longer needed.") I told him he should ask to see those papers because he has said his
divorce isn’t final until the 25th, over a week later. So either we have another lie or we
have polygamy. Another well respected pastor told me that Matthew was traveling with
a woman and he disapproved of it. So if he was so close with her that he decided to
marry her after traveling with her the question begs to be asked what was he doing with
her before he married her.)
So I told Matthew about the correction from his brethren and the witnesses who saw
him at the meetings with the woman. He said, "That has never happened and they are
all lying. I have never traveled with another woman in my life." I said, "Then ALL the
witnesses including your brethren are lying and only you are telling the truth?" He said,
"who are they?" I said that I wouldn’t say because I didn’t have permission.
While we were speaking he said into the phone, "My wife hasn’t traveled with me in a
long time." I said, "You are putting on a show for the others. I didn’t say anything about
your wife and you know it." I knew it was a lying spirit and so gave up, telling him thank
you and goodbye.
Notice what another Matthew wrote for God about those who prophesy and think they
are justified by that while they live in sin:
{Mt.7:21} Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. {22}
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and
by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? {23} And
then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work
iniquity.
It has come to our attention that some elders out there are accepting Matthews words
against us. I want to remind you that you are forbidden to receive this. {1 Tim.5:19}
Against an elder receive not an accusation, except at [the mouth of] two or three
witnesses. At the same time they do not receive the many witnesses that have come
forward of their own will. Jesus said, {Jn.8:17} Yea and in your law it is written, that
the witness of two men is true.


Darren: July 10, 2008
A while back when I had heard Matthew Stephen speak I had went over to his website
and he refers to himself as Pastor Matthew Stephen. I had mentioned it to Rory the next
time we had spoken and something did not seem to be right. I had unrest and did not
know why.
This morning I opened my bible up to Acts 5 in regards to Ananias and Sapphira lying to
the Holy Spirit. I reflected on this word and went on with my day. Later on I was in my
office. I opened up a bible I just got in today. I just bought one of the 1901 ASV large
margin editions from High Village Publishing. When I opened it up, it fell open to Acts
chapter 5 again and I felt in my spirit that there was something the Lord was speaking to
me. I prayed at that point for the Lord to show me.
I then began to listen to last night's bible study. I forwarded it to later on in the study and
heard you mention Acts 5 again in regards to the brother. This was the third time I heard
the same word this morning.
This was a confirmed word to me in regards to the brother. I pray that he will repent and
receive the correction from the Lords word. ({Acts 5:3} But Peter said, Ananias, why
hath Satan filled thy heart to lie to the Holy Spirit… {4}…thou has not lied unto
men, but unto God. {5} And Ananias hearing these words fell down and gave up
the ghost…Willfully lying to God’s elders over and over will bring at least spiritual death
and a dead conscience is proof of this.)


Sean: July 9, 2008
I am writing to you about the conversation that you have had with T. I was talking to her
on June 29th after the bible study, and we were discussing dreams. I had asked her to
pray for me concerning me having dreams. That night I had probably the most vivid
dream I have ever had (vivid part) with me and T in it. Anyway during the dream she
and I were running from false prophets who were chasing us. They were not catching us
however, they were all dying. I knew this was going on in my spirit.

Few days later I had spoken to T about this dream and she told me that, she looked in
her dream journal and had a dream the same night telling me she was running from
false prophets.



All we ask is that you not attack the witnesses but look at the evidence, ask God and be
honest. How many witnesses of moral misconduct unbecoming a minister are needed?
God says two or three. We have not lied, only shown the witnesses and more are
coming. We did not want to go to this last step. It would have been easier to sweep it
under the rug as the rest. We only sent this to a few elders of other ministries. We
asked nothing of them but God said they were responsible for the church under them.
We only posted this when lies were coming out all over the Internet.

We ask for prayer for Matthew and those he has deceived that God would open all
eyes. If there is anything amiss in what we have said, pray that God would show us but
under the circumstances we cannot trust Matthew's word.

Love from your servant in Christ,

David Eells



                        A Message from Bob of Spirit 1 Radio

Dear Brethren,

My name is Bob – of Spirit 1 Broadcasting. It is with a very heavy heart I write this.
However, as many of you may already know, on July 10, 2008, I had to suspend
Matthew Stephen’s program on Spirit 1 Radio. I had not planned on any of this –
suspending his program or writing this note! However, since brother Matthew Stephen,
AKA Matthew Steven Moranor, did see fit to fail to repent for a multitude of sins and
since he accused me of hijacking “his” program on Spirit 1 Radio – and because of what
I believe the book of Mathew states – I felt obligated to write this note.

I did get on the air at the time when Matthew’s program was scheduled. However, three
points that need to be made clear here are: First and foremost – Matthew was originally
offered some free airtime on Spirit 1 Radio. After a few weeks on the air he and I spoke
about him having more airtime and also having brother Michael Boldea on the air. I
offered brother Matthew a deal on the additional airtime. I told him he could have the
additional hour per week and Brother Boldea could have an hour a week also for
$350.00 per month. He said he would talk to brother Michael and get back with me.

Then a few days passed and Matthew called me back, telling me that he had talked with
Pastor Boldea and that they would do the programs and he (Matthew) would pay half
the cost and Michael Boldea would pay his half. This would be a total of $175.00 per
month each. I did not talk with Pastor Boldea and took the word of Matthew and did not
even ask either one to sign an agreement. I had only done this with one other brother –
and it was done out of trust. In fact, I did not even speak with Brother Boldea at this
point.

Months had passed and no money was received. When brother Matthew was asked
about it, he said he was sending some money – then days later stated he sent a money
order. Weeks passed by and still no money or money order. He asked if I had gotten it
and I told him no and suggested he take the receipt to where he purchased it and file a
lost claim. Matthew then stated the receipt was in his son’s car and he would have to
talk with his son. Then the car was sold with the papers in it and it was a long story –
one after another. Then he did send a money order for $100. And when we broadcast
his program live from Dalton, Georgia he gave my wife (who handles the funds) $100
and that was all that was paid on a $1000 debt.

I tell you these things because Matthew saw fit to send an email to those on his mailing
list stating that I had hijacked ‘his” airtime. Well, the fact is, he stole airtime from Spirit 1
Broadcasting and to top it all off he lied to me. I contacted brother Michael Boldea and
asked him if Matthew had ever had the conversation that he (Matthew) claimed to have
about the money he and brother Boldea were to have paid. Brother Mike told me he did
not ever have any talk with brother Matthew about money for airtime. This alone would
be reason enough to cancel or suspend Matthew’s program – or at least the time that
he was to be paying for. This is stealing from our ministry and is not very Christ-like!

As for witnesses against him: On the day Matthew and I had this talk about the airtime
and the cost, my wife was present and since I had Matthew on speaker phone – as I
often do, she heard every word. For the record, I told brother Michael Boldea he could
remain on the air and we would NOT charge him a dime. In addition, Michael will not be
doing his program with Matthew, stating that he would not be involved with Matthew
until this matter of sin is resolved.
This whole thing is NOT about money. It is about integrity. In fact, it was not until brother
Matthew had made sexual comments to a sister in brother David Eells’ ministry that
Matthew’s program was finally suspended – even with him owing the ministry money!
His program was suspended due to his own actions involving the sin of lies and a
promiscuous lifestyle. I spoke with the woman who accused him and asked her many
questions. This was done in the presence of a prophetic friend – who also has
discernment – and we both agreed that she was telling the truth. In addition, there are
phone records that back up what she said. The phone records show Matthew called her
at all hours of the night – and it was very frequent. When I asked Matthew about these
calls he stated that he did call her but he was counseling her. I am a pastor and I have
counseled many – I am a married man – just as he was at that time and even so, I
would see no reason to talk to a single woman at 1:00, 2:00 or 3:00 AM for counseling.
The only reason that could happen is if she were suicidal and she was and is not! At her
request I will not give her name here.

I did go on the air on July 10th at the scheduled time of Matthew Stephen’s program to
explain why he would not be on the air. This is not hijacking; it is my obligation to our
listeners who are the sheep of God.

I went on the air to try in my own feeble way to offer a reason to the listeners for
suspending Matthew’s program but in an effort to bring clarity and truth to the matter it
was pointed out to me that I should have gone into more detail about his sin. So I will
attempt to do this in honesty and truth. Mathew 18:15 states: “And if thy brother sin
against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou
hast gained thy brother.”

Because Matthew insisted on attempting to justify his actions and give the people of
God the excuse that he was being attacked by the enemy and to insinuate that brother
David Eells and I were attacking him without cause, and since I got an email with the
suggestion that I should have had Matthew on the air to defend himself, I not only
agreed to have Matthew Stephen on with the writer of the email but also sent a letter to
Matthew inviting him to come on the air and face his accusers and the witnesses
against him. He did not respond to the email, and instead chose to go on The Edge
Radio Program and defend his case with no witnesses; interestingly, he did exactly
what he had accused me of doing – getting on the air and giving my side without his
being there to defend himself. This rather than face his accusers! What is it that he has
to hide? If he is innocent of all the accusations against him why won’t he face those who
accuse him in an open forum?

I attempted to speak with Matthew a week or so before his program about accusations
against him of sexual immorality against a sister in David Eells' Bible study group. He
denied that he had done anything. I warned him that God gave me the gift of
discernment and if he was not telling the truth I would know – and I said that I would
speak with those involved and also discern the truth. I did just that. He, in fact,
according to this girl, did make sexual and ungodly comments to her and as I said
earlier, two witnesses to the conversation who have discernment are in agreement that
he was not being honest. I also asked him in order to avoid this going public and before
the church if he would do a three-way call between David Eells, myself and him to settle
this matter and he flat out refused. I also told him he had a serious issue of pride. In
almost all of his appearances you will hear him say, 'I predicted this… and this
happened… and I predicted that… and that happened…' At the conference in Georgia
that we broadcast live, he had printouts from various sources; holding them up, he said,
“I said this would happen and it did – here is proof…" This was troubling – not because
he was showing that what he said would happen did – but because as he so often
seems to do – he gives God little or no credit. I told him instead of saying I said this and
it came to pass, why not say God showed me this and this came to pass? I told him
pride comes before the fall. He said, “Well, yea, sometimes I do that, and um, you’re
right." However, it is not sometimes; it is nearly all the time, when it should be none of
the time. To God be the glory!

Some days prior to my talking with Matthew, I had spoken with David Eells and was
informed that David made about three attempts to get the brother to repent and he
failed to do it then. I spoke with him to give him the chance to tell the truth and repent. I
offered him the chance to speak with David and myself in a conference call and he said
he would not talk with David and he did not see the need. Yet the Bible states: Mathew
18:16 “but if he hears thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two
witnesses or three every word may be established.” He refused and will not humble
himself so we are left at the next verse: Mathew 18:17 “and if he refuses to hear them,
tell it unto the church: and if he refuses to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as
the Gentile and the publican.”

I find no pleasure in any of this. I know that we all can fall into sin. We are all human
and I do love brother Matthew and it broke my heart to have to cut his program and
explain to the listeners why. David gave him three or four chances to repent – and I
gave him a chance to repent. Yet Matthew, rather than take that opportunity, chose to
accuse everyone of lying. I asked everyone to pray for him and us – and I again ask for
this grace. I do want to make one thing clear, however. I do this because the scriptures
demand it. I do this also because as Pastor of Spirit 1 Radio, I am accountable to God’s
children. I cannot with a clear conscience have a man who I know is in sin on the air,
especially someone claiming to be a prophet.

If he (Matthew) is a liar about some things, what else is he a liar about? If he gives false
prophecies he would bring shame on God’s ministry. As pastor I am responsible for the
flock – this flock is not mine, nor David’s, nor Matthew’s – it is God’s flock and we are to
be the shepherds watching over and protecting the flock. I know there are many who
judge me for doing what I did and I say judge me if you will by the scripture – or judge
me not at all. I also say, I will do as the Lord God commands no mater what the cost.
God judges us pastors much more harshly than his sheep. I must do what is right and
stand up even at the cost of my very life to do what God would have me do. I am not a
hireling. I will not run from the truth nor will I run from persecution – if it is in the name of
Jesus – I stand ready. God bless you.
Bob
Spirit 1 Radio



David: July 13, 2008
Matthew, please pay Bob what you gave your word you would pay him and pay Michael
Boldea's half because you lied and did not make an agreement with him. Bob has to
pay out about $6000 a month to keep his network on the air. You are stealing from his
ministry and those who support it. God calls that a thief. You told me that you wouldn't
stay in people's homes and we know why. You told me that you would only stay in a
hotel that has a gym. If you can afford this lifestyle you can afford to pay Bob. If you
can't afford it, then you are not sent by God for he pays the bills of His messengers and
without all your begging.
Why are so many witnesses testifying that this man is a womanizer, liar, prideful and
now a thief? None of these will enter the kingdom, according to the Word. Jesus said in
{Jn.8:17} Yea and in your law it is written, that the witness of two men is true.
Some of you have decided not to believe Jesus in this. Matthew called all these
witnesses and elders liars and hypocrites on national radio without one witness.
Saints, you are commanded not to receive an accusation against an elder without two
or three witnesses but he expects you to disobey the Lord with him and accept it
because he is wiser than God. He expects you to receive a lie against elders because,
after all, he is Matthew Stephen or Steven or Moranor. What arrogance and what foolish
people to disobey Jesus Christ our Lord.
What is it that the harlot and her false prophets don't understand about obedience?
Read this very slowly and decide who is obeying Jesus here. {Mt.18:15} And if thy
brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he
hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. {16} But if he hear [thee] not, take with
thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may
be established. {17} And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: Notice
also that the command is not to bring him before the church but tell it to the church. So
when we obey this, the lawbreaker stands up and complains that we are hypocrites for
simply giving the victims a voice against the predator. Shame on you, Jezebel, and you,
false prophet! Obey God and come out from among them and live, for the rest of the
text says, if he refuse to hear the church (Greek: Called out ones) also, let him be
unto thee as the Gentile and the publican.
Notice what it takes to be a false prophet. First of all, a prophet is not merely one who
prophesies, for ye can all prophesy one by one. A prophet is an office in the church, an
elder, meaning one who is an overseer because he is mature in the faith. Now even
though Matthew prophesies and by his own witness, which is not credible, he has
hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, he cannot be a prophet. Let's see what Jesus says:
{Mt.7:15} Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly are ravening wolves. (Now He did not say that he did not prophesy but that
he was a false prophet because he is a predator. Balaam prophesied perfectly but he
was a predator and taught God's people fornication. {Num.22:38} And Balaam said
unto Balak, Lo, I am come unto thee: have I now any power at all to speak
anything? the word that God putteth in my mouth, that shall I speak. {2 Pet.2:15}
forsaking the right way, they went astray, having followed the way of Balaam the
[son] of Beor, who loved the hire of wrong-doing; {Rev.2:14} But I have a few
things against thee, because thou hast there some that hold the teaching of
Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel,
to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication. (If nothing else he is
guilty of a spiritual form of fornication.) {Mt.5:27} Ye have heard that it was said, Thou
shalt not commit adultery: {28} but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on
a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.)
Back to our original text: {Mt.7:1516} By their fruits ye shall know them. Do [men]
gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? (The fruits that are witnessed above are
rotten.) {17} Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree
bringeth forth evil fruit. {18} A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. {19} Every tree that bringeth not forth good
fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. {20} Therefore by their fruits ye shall
know them.
{21} Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of
heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. {22} Many will
say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy
name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? (Notice they did
prophesy and Jesus did not say that was false. Notice in the original language they
were not abiding "IN" the name but were merely using the name. Notice they are false
prophets because they did not obey in their own personal life.) {23} And then will I
profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. {24}
Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be
likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock: {25} and the rain
descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. {26} And every one that heareth
these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man,
who built his house upon the sand: {27} and the rain descended, and the floods
came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was
the fall thereof.
So, harlot church, if you keep on following your false prophets you will end up with
them. Welcome to the "last days," folks. {2 Tim.3:1} But know this, that in the last
days grievous times shall come. {2} For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of
money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents (Father God and Mother
Church), unthankful, unholy, {3} without natural affection, implacable, slanderers,
without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, {4} traitors, headstrong, puffed up,
lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; {5} holding a form of godliness, but
having denied the power thereof:
from these also turn away. Matthew, you are batting almost 1000 here.
{6} For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women
laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, {7} ever learning, and never able to
come to the knowledge of the truth. {8} And even as Jannes and Jambres
withstood Moses, so do these also withstand the truth. Men corrupted in mind,
reprobate concerning the faith. {9} But they shall proceed no further. For their
folly shall be evident unto all men, as theirs also came to be.
{10} But thou didst follow my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, longsuffering,
love, patience, {11} persecutions, sufferings. What things befell me at Antioch, at
Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord
delivered me. {12} Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution. {13} But evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving and being deceived. Deceivers are wolves who look like sheep. Pray that
God help you to see under the false exterior for the truth; we have.
Obey the Church fathers and God, Saints. {14} But abide thou in the things which
thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned
them. {15} And that from a babe thou hast known the sacred writings which are
able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. {16}
Every scripture inspired of God [is] also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction which is in righteousness. {17} That the man of God
may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work. Which scriptures
would you have us disobey, Jezebel? Notice you will never be complete people of God
until you obey these verses, too. {1 Tim.5:20} Them that sin reprove in the sight of
all, that the rest also may be in fear.
True Church, thank God for the few victims and ministers who will stand up and be
heard for the Church of Jesus' sake. Demand that these ministers who are sticking up
for this man obey God's Word. Post this link
(http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=matthewstephen) in the blogs and
columns so the witnesses can be heard. Stop supporting wickedness, becoming a
partaker in other men's sins. Without holiness no man shall see the Lord.

Love from your servant in Christ,

David Eells



          Balaam Prophets Teach Fornication, Polygamy, Adultery
                                   David Eells - 7/16/08
Matthew Stephen and Stephen Benning have been hired by their flesh to pervert the
Word of the Lord and teach what Balaam taught. {2 Pet.2:15} forsaking the right way,
they went astray, having followed the way of Balaam the [son] of Beor, who loved
the hire of wrong-doing; {Rev.2:14} But I have a few things against thee, because
thou hast there some that hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast
a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols,
and to commit fornication.
Fornication is translated from the Greek word “Porneia,” which according to Vines
Expository Dictionary means any illicit sexual intercourse. In other words, fornication is
the broad word that covers adultery, polygamy, homosexuality, bestiality, masturbation,
etc. Prophet Michael, who also spoke to Matthew, prophesied of his addiction to
pornography (Porneia), as I did also through the word of knowledge in the beginning.
These men are teaching God’s people fornication, as Balaam was.
Vincent Xavier, the prophet/pastor who rebuked Matthew, found that he was staying
with his then girl friend in the same hotel room. So Matthew went to Stephen Benning,
who married him without a marriage license, because the law forbids his marriage until
his divorce was to be final almost four weeks later on the 25th of July. God’s law also
forbids this marriage, as we will see. This makes him a polygamist and fornicator. He
just couldn’t wait. God calls that being ruled by lust. He didn’t have a marriage license
and was not divorced yet.
Jesus forbade divorce between believers, excepting for fornication. We were told that
Matthew began the divorce procedure. They said there was no fornication on her part
and that the divorce came about because of domestic abuse on his part, with a
restraining order imposed if he became verbally abusive. Below is an attempt to pervert
the people by showing that this behavior is right.
Here is a transcript Matthew's Saturday show LIVE on the edge at 8:00 PM EST
(David's notes are in red)
Matthew Steven: No, I didn't marry myself and um the problem we have with American
Christianity 101 and those that follow that law of American Christianity 101 which is
against God's law is that the ecclesiastical order of the scriptures never said anything
about in bed with Caesar and getting married under some marriage license of any state
okay and in that situation um there is a lot of people that have a problem with that (Yes,
people and God have a problem with that for He said we are to obey all of man’s laws.
Be subject to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake. We are to be above
reproach before ALL men; Christians and lost. We are not to be seen as law breakers
for the sake of reputation of Christ. {Rom.12:17} …Take thought for things
honorable in the sight of all men. {2 Cor.8:21} for we take thought for things
honorable, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men. Getting
married because you get caught and then getting married before getting a divorce is not
honorable to anyone. {1 Thes.5:22} abstain from every form (appearance) of evil. His
teachings on marriage are to excuse his actions and are evil to the conscience of most
men and are teaching them fornication like Balaam did.{Rom.14:15} For if because of
meat thy brother is grieved, thou walkest no longer in love. Destroy not with thy
meat him for whom Christ died. (If it is strictly forbidden to offend people over meats
which are now clean, we are even more forbidden to offend the conscience of people
with something like this that is illegal.) {19} So then let us follow after things which
make for peace, and things whereby we may edify one another. {20} Overthrow
not for meat's sake the work of God. All things indeed are clean (ceremonial laws
passed away and are now clean but all moral law still stands); howbeit it is evil for
that man who eateth with offence. {21} It is good not to eat flesh, nor to drink
wine, nor [to do anything] whereby thy brother stumbleth. )
... but that's okay if you want to run down there to California, you and your wife which is
supposed to be a marriage between a man and a woman in God and run down there
and go stand next to the gays and lesbians while they hand the same marriage
certificate to you guys they can hand it to them to the gays and lesbians at the same
time .(Ridiculous, the paper may be the same but the signatures make them a totally
different document as a child would know. With this statement he makes anyone who
obeyed the ordinance of man in obedience to God a gay or lesbian and he as a
fornicator is good. {Isa.5:20} Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that
put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet
for bitter!) the same identical marriage certificate it becomes a marriage between you
your bride and the state of California or you, your bride and the state of NY or any other
state for that matter, or Florida; and if you want to be in bed with Caesar then go right
ahead and get in bed with Caesar. (It is good to declare your commitment to marriage
before men so they can see that you are not just shacking up.)
I choose not to be in bed with Caesar. I believe that's against God's word. (We don’t
have a right to believe what we want.) I believe the marriage is between the man and
woman that God joins together. Not man, not dates of things whether they be via
divorces, marriages or any other thing. (The marriage laws are given to protect women
from people like this. When you marry in darkness the poor woman has less recourse to
support her children when the fornicator leaves because he is not married under law.
What does God say about Matt’s rebelling against Caesar to cater to his flesh?
{Rom.13:1} Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no
power but of God; and the [powers] that be are ordained of God. (It seems that
Caesar is more ordained than Matt is.) {2} Therefore he that resisteth the power,
withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to
themselves judgment. {3} For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the
evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and
thou shalt have praise from the same: {4} for he is a minister of God to thee for
good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in
vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil. {5}
Wherefore [ye] must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but
also for conscience' sake.)
We look at these things so legalistically and such religious spirits that operate that try to
put people down and things uh (rebels always scream legalism to avoid obeying the
Word) but the last time I looked in the bible it doesn't have any of that included in the
word, and if you've got a scripture about that I haven't found it yet out of the hundreds of
thousands of hours I've been reading the word for almost 30 years uh I'd like to see it. (I
suspect many a 10-year-old has read the scriptures quoted here and knows better.
Even the Bible Colleges teach better.) I don't know what bible they are using uh maybe
it's in the Koran they are getting it .. I don't know but I don't see it in the word of God ..
and so uh I did not marry myself and so end of story. (Yes, let’s sweep this subject
under the rug.)
The Balaam prophets teach the people “spiritual marriage” but “the Spirit” of God
commands us not to give in to our fleshly lusts but to obey every ordinance of man,
which anyone knows includes the marriage laws. {1 Pet.2:11} Beloved, I beseech you
as sojourners and pilgrims, to abstain from fleshly lust, which war against the
soul; {12} having your behavior seemly (honorable) among the Gentiles; that,
wherein they speak against you as evil-doers, they may by your good works,
which they behold, glorify God in the day of visitation. {13} Be subject to every
ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether to the king, as supreme; {14} or
unto governors, as sent by him for vengeance on evil-doers and for praise to
them that do well. {15} For so is the will of God, that by well-doing ye should put
to silence the ignorance of foolish men: . We are commanded to do this so as not to
bring a reproach against Christianity among the unbelievers. When one comes into the
kingdom and is in a common law marriage, which is not conscientiously acceptable to
most people, they should go and get married before God and man for conscience sake.
Matt speaks of his freedom to get married without a divorce or license and commit
fornication but what does God say? {16} as free, and not using your freedom for a
cloak of wickedness, but as bondservants of God. This is cloaking wickedness with
deceptive, high-sounding words but God knows an evil heart.
Matt accuses elders without two or three witnesses and then speak it to the church
without witnesses, making them sin by receiving it. On the other hand, we have given
many witnesses to your many sins. The true people of God are seeing all of this. But
teaching God’s people fornication by example and perversion of scripture will ensure his
eternal damnation unless he repents. {1 Cor.6:9} Or know ye not that the
unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with men, {10} nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {11} And such were some of
you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God… {15} Know ye not that your
bodies are members of Christ? shall I then take away the members of Christ, and
make them members of a harlot? God forbid. {16} Or know ye not that he that is
joined to a harlot is one body? for, The twain, saith he, shall become one flesh.
(These men are taking away the members of Christ to make them members of the
harlot.) {17} But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. {18} Flee fornication.
Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication
sinneth against his own body. (Notice the fornicators are outside the body of Christ.)
..{10:8} Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in
one day three and twenty thousand. {Gal.5:19} Now the works of the flesh are
manifest, which are [these]: fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, (perverting
the scriptures so you may do as you like) {5:21} envyings, drunkenness, revellings,
and such like; of which I forewarn you, even as I did forewarn you, that they who
practise such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
{Rev.21:7} He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son. {8} But for the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable,
and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their
part [shall be] in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the
second death. {22:14} Blessed are they that wash their robes, that they may have
the right [to come] to the tree of life, and my enter in by the gates into the city.
{15} Without are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the
murderers, and the idolaters, and every one that loveth and maketh a lie. (Some
believe that because they are “saved” that you can get away with willful disobedience?)
{Jer.7:9} Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn
incense unto Baal (The false Jesus), and walk after other gods that ye have not
known, {10} and come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my
name, and say, We are delivered; that ye may do all these abominations? {11} Is
this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes?
Behold, I, even I, have seen it, saith Jehovah. {12} But go ye now unto my place
which was in Shiloh, where I caused my name to dwell at the first, and see what I
did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel. {13} And now, because ye have
done all these works, saith Jehovah, and I spake unto you, rising up early and
speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not: {14} therefore
will I do unto the house which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto
the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did to Shiloh. {15} And I will
cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed
of Ephraim. Some say this is just Old Testament but the New says the same.
In any place that we are willfully disobedient, we need the fear of God. Sins of
ignorance (Rom.5:13; 7:8,9) and sins of failure (Rom.7:19-25) are under the blood.
However, we cannot claim the sacrificial benefits if we willfully walk in premeditated sin.
(Heb.10:26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the
truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins, (27) but a certain fearful
expectation of judgment... Jesus bore all sin; He also bore the penalty for all sin,
except willful disobedience. Notice that there is “no more a sacrifice” for that sin. We
should have “acertain fearful expectation of judgment.” Many of us have been lied
to about the cleansing of the blood. (1 Jn.1:7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in
the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus his Son
cleanseth us from all sin. The blood cleanses the one who walks in the light of the
Word, not in the darkness of willful disobedience.
Saints, pray for those ministers who are standing on the sidelines like Peter while the
wicked crucify the righteous. Pray that they get some backbone and stand up and be
counted against this evil abomination infecting God’s Church.
Your servant in Christ,
David Eells

                                     Not a Prophet
                        George and Jeannie Kirkpatrick - 7/22/08

We feel we must offer an apology to those who are faithful readers of our website.
Some time back we felt led to help Matthew Stephens set up his website at
www.propheticwatchmanvine.com. We did this thinking we were aiding the body of
Christ by publishing some of Matthew's prophecies on our website. Matthew gave dates
and times when his prophecies were to happen. When they did not happen, and other
events in Matthew's life which did not add up to the Word of God, we pulled all of
Matthew's writings from our website, and have refused to help any further with his effort
to deceive the people. What we did, we did ignorantly, and we apologize for our
mistake. We ask your forgiveness. We have already sought God's forgiveness.

(Note from David: We have received info from several people/prophets that Matt
prophesied things after learning of their revelations, in effect assimilating them and
regurgitating them. We believe this is why Matt was in agreement with us when we first
met him. Also, we noticed that he was reading "his" prophecies in our broadcast with
him like he wasn't familiar with them, as one would be who had received them
personally.)
Vincent Xavier comments on Matt's co-habitation on the 7/19/08 broadcast of The
                                 Edge Radio



                      Bob's Note on Matt's Sexual Assaults

David, I do realize you sent emails out about the Church and Family Hour program on
Spirit 1 Radio – with regard to Matthew Stephen Moranor and the two girls he sexually
assaulted. The fact is Matthew, according to his sister, did attack at least two women
but she did not have permission to give their names and so she decided that it would be
best not to bring it up at all. I had to respect her wishes. She was afraid that one of
these girls would take legal action against her, or that if one of their husbands did not
know then she would be responsible for causing a marital issue; that is why it was not
talked about on our program. I am sorry if this caused any inconvenience to you or your
ministry in any way. However, you may post this note on your website to explain why
that happened.

                  Denise's Witness of Matt's Corrupt History

(Click here to listen to Bob's 7/22/08 interview on Spirit 1 Radio with Matthew Stephen's
sister, Denise.)

Your servant in Christ,
Bob
Spirit 1 Radio



Dear Saints,

In the midst of many lies against us, we have been faithful to obey God's Word in
relaying the witnesses and victims' side of the story. {Mt.18:15} And if thy brother sin
against thee, go, show him his fault between thee and him alone: if he hear thee,
thou hast gained thy brother. {16} But if he hear [thee] not, take with thee one or
two more, that at the mouth of two witnesses or three every word may be
established. {17} And if he refuse to hear them, tell it unto the church: and if he
refuse to hear the church also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the
publican. Now the last step is up to you. Matt and the men who still support his
predatory ways against Jesus' Church, contrary to the commands of God, should hear
from you that "The witness of two men is true," as Jesus said. If they don't hear, you
should separate from them in every form. This was a trial from God to see who would
love Jesus by keeping His commandments...
UBM



Some say Matt’s past sins should not be remembered. The only way your sins are not
remembered is if you don’t continue in them.
{Eze.18:21} But if the wicked turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and
keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he
shall not die. {22} None of his transgressions that he hath committed shall be
remembered against him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
God says only to the righteous that their sins will not be remembered.
When the righteous turn back to willful sin nothing but their sin is remembered against
them.
{18:24} But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and
committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked
man doeth, shall he live? None of his righteous deeds that he hath done shall be
remembered: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath
sinned, in them shall he die.
Wicked Christians make their old sins to be remembered by continuing in them. They
are no longer under the covering of the blood.
{21:24} Therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because ye have made your
iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are uncovered, so that in
all your doings your sins do appear; because that ye are come to remembrance,
ye shall be taken with the hand.
{Rev.18:5} for her sins have reached even unto heaven, and God hath
remembered her iniquities.
{Hos.8:13} As for the sacrifices of mine offerings, they sacrifice flesh and eat it;
but Jehovah accepteth them not: now will he remember their iniquity, and visit
their sins; they shall return to Egypt. ...{9:9} They have deeply corrupted
themselves, as in the days of Gibeah: he will remember their iniquity,
he will visit their sins.
{Jer.14:10} Thus saith Jehovah unto this people, Even so have they loved to
wander; they have not refrained their feet: therefore Jehovah doth not accept
them; now will he remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.
{Heb.6:4} For as touching those who were once enlightened and tasted of the
heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, {5} and tasted the good
word of God, and the powers of the age to come, {6} and [then] fell away, it is
impossible to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to
themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


                     Let the Witnesses and Victims Speak
                                  David Eells 7/28/08
I was sent these notes from the Stephen Bening, Matthew Stephen Moranor, Kathy (?),
Daniel and Jamie Ott broadcast of Saturday the 26th of July. I have answered them in
red. When I went on The Edge AM radio program Matt was invited to contend with me
but didn’t come, but when these men have been invited I have not been invited to
support the facts, witnesses or scriptures, of which they are afraid.
1. Ott, Bening and Matt decidedto be light-hearted and laughing about the situation
instead of being serious. People who heard them accused them of being like drunk
folks, because they were talking so nonchalantly about Matt's problems and being
humorous. (This shows no repentance for the serious crimes against the victims they
are guilty of.)
2. Ott and Bening compared being full of the Holy Spirit with being high on caffeine or
alcohol. (This sounds just like the Toronto stuff Matt was involved with in Kansas City.
They too fell into immorality.)
3. Ott suggested Denise Thompson was being opportunistic due to some unknown
family issue in the past in the Moranor family, possibly. (This is slander with no
evidence, no witnesses and is scripturally not permitted without "two or three
witnesses."
4. Bening expects family to defend family members to the death no matter what, not to
do what Denise did to Matt on Spirit 1. (I thought, well, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber,
was turned in by his own brother.) (Loyalty to proven adulterers, liars and thieves
because they are fleshly kin shows no loyalty to God, as Jesus said. True born-again
people have a new loyalty and family. {Mt.10:34} Think not that I came to send peace
on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. {35} For I came to set a man
at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law: {36} and a man's foes [shall be] they of
his own household. {37} He that loveth father or mother more than me is not
worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of
me.
Denise showed great courage and is honored among the righteous for coming forward
to disprove all of Matt's lies, only to suffer at the hands of the wicked. We are
commanded to hear the witnesses.
5. Ott asked if standing alone with Matt has damaged his ministry. Bening said, yes it
has; because he's the only one still standing with Matt. (This should tell you that some
can read what the many witnesses have said while Stephen has ignored the victims to
cover for his own sins of marrying an adulterer who was not divorced. Also, we we’re
told that Stephen Bening has divorced twice, as a “Christian.” Read the full story.)
Bening said, hey, the ex-wife got her divorce and she's happy; (Matt called for the
divorce and got the lawyer first. This was without fornication on her part which is
scripturally illegal. His wife later got a lawyer who was much more efficient and started
the proceedings.) the new wife got what she wanted which is Matt, so she's happy;
(Happy does not mean righteous) he said he's happy, Ott said he too is happy, Jamie
Ott said she's happy. Then Bening says the only ones not happy and complaining are
the women who DIDN'T SUCCEED in getting Matthew as a husband. (I think you have
overstated his value to any of these women Matt was proven to be chasing. Just ask
them.)
Bening brings up the woman caught in adultery. (So now he justifies adultery. Matt and
his lover are adulterers, with Bening the accomplice. {1 Cor.6:9} Be not deceived:
neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with men, {10} nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {11} And such were some of
you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God. He says Denise was wrong to
not defend her brother. (This is a defense? What about WHAT she said about him being
a con-man, fornicator, rapist, compulsive liar, thief, etc., all of his life? Lets don’t talk
about the facts.)
Ott brings up the fact Hosea was told by God to marry a woman of whoredoms. (So it's
OK now? Nevermind the fact that God was creating a type to accuse the fornicating,
apostate people of God of THEIR sins!) Bening believes David does not know what he
is doing. (When someone departs from scripture they have to rely on what they
believe. I have offered to debate Stephen and Matt through Bob on the scriptures and
the witnesses and both have not answered. They accuse elders without witnesses,
which is forbidden, whereas we have witnesses against them. 1 Tim 5:19,20)
Bening and Ott and Jamie continually fail throughout to realize and acknowledge and
understand the Matthew 18:15-17 protocol and believe UBM/Eells is out of line in
exposing Matt to the world on the Internet. They do not at all understand scripture on
this issue. (It is that they do not respect the commands of Jesus Christ and are angry
that we have. {Mt.18:15} And if thy brother sin against thee, go, show him his fault
between thee and him alone: if he hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. {16}
But if he hear [thee] not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth of two
witnesses or three every word may be established. {17} And if he refuse to hear
them, tell it unto the church: and if he refuse to hear the church also, let him be
unto thee as the Gentile and the publican.)
After Bening, the phone line is opened up for questions. There are some good
questions raised as to, What about the phone records that Matt was calling T all hours
of the night? (Absolute proof that Matt was chasing T. In one example among many
there were five calls from Matt from 1:00 AM to 6:00 AM in the morning and none from
T.)
A man calls in saying Matt is holding himself out to be something he is not. Phone
records are a good way to start. He asks is Matt willing to make his own phone records
available? (He would have to give his code to an honest person to pull them for him like
we did with T.) Caller thinks it's important that Matt step forward to prove he is or is not
who he says he is; evidence must be examined. (Amen!)
Ott wants to know if God would give a man a gift of prophecy if that man lives in sin. He
fails to understand the gift and calling are not repented of. (He has never even read the
evidence against Matt. Here is a quote from that: "Notice what it takes to be a false
prophet. First of all, a prophet is not merely one who prophesies, for ye can all prophesy
one by one. A prophet is an office in the church, an elder, meaning one who is an
overseer because he is mature in the faith. Now even though Matthew prophesies and
by his own witness, which is not credible, he has hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, he
cannot be a prophet. Let's see what Jesus says: {Mt.7:15} Beware of false prophets,
who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. (Now He
did not say that he did not prophesy but that he was a false prophet because he is a
predator. Balaam prophesied perfectly but he was a predator and taught God's people
fornication. {Num.22:38} And Balaam said unto Balak, Lo, I am come unto thee:
have I now any power at all to speak anything? the word that God putteth in my
mouth, that shall I speak. {2 Pet.2:15} forsaking the right way, they went astray,
having followed the way of Balaam the [son] of Beor, who loved the hire of
wrong-doing; {Rev.2:14} But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast
there some that hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a
stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and
to commit fornication. (If nothing else he is guilty of a spiritual form of fornication.)
{Mt.5:27} Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery: {28} but
I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath
committed adultery with her already in his heart.) "
Kathy says she's married in the eyes of God, but not in the eyes of the law. (She hasn’t
read the evidence either. Here is a quote: "He said we are to obey all of man’s laws. Be
subject to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake. We are to be above reproach
before ALL men -- Christians and lost. We are not to be seen as law breakers for the
sake of reputation of Christ. {Rom.12:17} …Take thought for things honorable in the
sight of all men. {2 Cor.8:21} for we take thought for things honorable, not only in
the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men. Getting married because you get
caught and then getting married before getting a divorce is not honorable to anyone. {1
Thes.5:22} abstain from every form (appearance) of evil. His teachings on marriage
are to excuse his actions and are evil to the conscience of most men and are teaching
them fornication like Balaam did. {Rom.14:15} For if because of meat thy brother is
grieved, thou walkest no longer in love. Destroy not with thy meat him for whom
Christ died. [If it is strictly forbidden to offend people over meats which are now clean,
we are even more forbidden to offend the conscience of people with something like this
that is illegal.] {19} So then let us follow after things which make for peace, and
things whereby we may edify one another. {20} Overthrow not for meat's sake the
work of God. All things indeed are clean (ceremonial laws passed away and are now
clean but all moral law still stands); howbeit it is evil for that man who eateth with
offence. {21} It is good not to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor [to do anything]
whereby thy brother stumbleth.")
Matt is about to get on the line now.
- Talked about he's imperfect, he's a man, he's always pointed folks to Christ, wants to
see the love of Christ in the hearts of all people. (He loves not Christ for he keeps not
His commandments and he points men to sin.)
- The Otts tell Matt people want clarity on his marriage situation.
- Matt says it was all done unbiblically, poison's been sent out from David Eells; (You
mean letting the witnesses speak as the scriptures command is poison?) says he
apologized two weeks ago about offensively ... (doesn't finish the sentence). Says he's
made public apology. (We have scripturally never asked for an apology but repentance,
which means "change of mind." Besides his statement that "If I have offended anyone
please forgive me" is not an apology. He is not admitting fornication, lying, stealing, etc.)
Says lot of women are jealous, people are jealous, women have taken exception to him
marrying Kathy. (This is a delusion he has that he is God's gift to women.)
The Otts are extremely ignorant regarding the scriptural protocol. They are constantly
ignoring the scripture and applying their opinion only about what they think scripture
says.
Kathy was on and says she stands by her man, of course. (He was not her man when
she was caught staying in hotel rooms with him and he isn’t now. This is adultery.)
A caller says he does not like the spirit in which the two sides are coming; a spirit of
judgment. (Judgment is commanded in this case. {1 Cor.5:9} I wrote unto you in my
epistle to have no company with fornicators; {10} not at all [meaning] with the
fornicators of this world, or with the covetous and extortioners, or with idolaters;
for then must ye needs go out of the world: {11} but as it is, I wrote unto you not
to keep company, if any man that is named a brother be a fornicator, or covetous,
or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no,
not to eat. {12} For what have I to do with judging them that are without? Do not
ye judge them that are within?)
Ott brings up the point that judgment will begin at the house of God. (That is exactly
what we are doing.) A man's enemies will be the men of his own house, says Ott. (We
can see who the enemies in the house are.)
Matt came on and reiterated the following:
1. Denies allegations BECAUSE they were brought not in love, and with poison by
David Eells. (Witnesses cannot be denied whether Matt feels it's love or not. Obey the
scriptures and answer the witnesses. You were caught shacking up and got married
without a divorce.)
2. Matt says he will not answer his critics, that he has apologized several times to
Christians and online crowd for anything he's done to offend. (You cannot stand against
the evidence and you know it.)
3. Tore down T a bit, bringing up her out-of-wedlock child in her unchristian past. (T
became a Christian and forsook her past life and has not done what Matt has since. Her
sins are forgiven, Matt’s are not. {Eze.18:24} But when the righteous turneth away
from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the
abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? None of his righteous
deeds that he hath done shall be remembered: in his trespass that he hath
trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.)
4. Matt says his marriage is none of anybody's business; that there are a lot of jealous
women out there. (Elders are to make it their business when wolves come in to prey
upon the flock.)
5. Ott concerned that several calling in do not have consensus on scripture. (Maybe
Daniel would like to talk scripture with me?)
6. Ott wants to know why Eells has not confronted Jesse Jackson and Sharpton on stuff
they've defended or said over the years (Jackson regarding the "nigger" comment when
he thought he was off the air, regarding Obama; and Sharpton about the Tawanna
Brawley false charge of rape years ago.) (This is a clear attempt at changing the issue
from the sins of Matthew and Stephen. We are obeying the commands of scripture
concerning these sins against our assembly.)
7. Caller Doug says seems Matthew 18 protocol was followed, but Matt refused to
comply, so the process continued; yet this caller does not think the public online stuff
should have been put on the websites. Others feel this way, of course, also. (We didn’t
start the online thing. We received lies on blogs and sites against us first. Also, our
assembly is mostly an online/broadcast assembly to the world. The command to "bring
it to the church" is applicable here. Matt has been plundering the Church, not just our
local assembly. Plus, Daniel is fighting for this fornicator publicly through his broadcasts
and archives on the Internet. They need to be answered that way.)
8. Jamie Ott poses the question, if Matt has repented online now several times and
apologizes online on the various radio shows, should not the written stuff be removed
from the websites now? Shouldn't this issue now go away, she wants to know. (He has
not apologized to the victims. He has not admitted his lies, thefts and fornications. He
has not admitted to doctoring his dated prophecies that he stole from others and were
found false. He has not returned the money he stole from Bob. He has not admitted that
all the glorious stuff you pasted on your site from him is proven lies. Etc., etc. The
scriptures demand repentance or else he is to be unto us as a gentile and a publican.)


                             Matthew Spared By Grace

Once when Matthew sent out character assassinations with no evidence to his e-list
against all of the good people who witnessed or were victims of his evil, the Lord
reminded me that I had his e-list. Matt had sent it to me, he thought by accident by not
using Bcc (Blind carbon copy) -- just before we discovered his many sins. However, it
was the will of God who is sovereign over all things. I thought, "Wow, Lord, you have
done it again. You have made it possible to answer his lies to his own people with the
clear evidence we put on our site." Late that night as I was thinking on this, the Lord
said, "No, withhold your sword against him and instead send him the story of David who
found himself in the midst of Saul's camp and could have killed him with the sword of
the Word but instead was merciful." And so I found myself in the midst of Matt's email
camp, which was a fulfillment of prophecy for me, for the Lord told me many times that I
was one of His Davids. He has also told me in the past that the Philistines (the old man)
will take Saul out and that I wouldn't have to.

{1 Sam.24:1} And it came to pass, when Saul was returned from following the
Philistines, that it was told him, saying, Behold, David is in the wilderness of En-
gedi. {2} Then Saul took three thousand chosen men out of all Israel, and went to
seek David and his men upon the rocks of the wild goats. {3} And he came to the
sheepcotes by the way, where was a cave; and Saul went in to cover his feet. Now
David and his men were abiding in the innermost parts of the cave. {4} And the
men of David said unto him, Behold, the day of which Jehovah said unto thee,
Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thy hand, and thou shalt do to him as it
shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul's robe
privily. {5} And it came to pass afterward, that David's heart smote him, because
he had cut off Saul's skirt. {6} And he said unto his men, Jehovah forbid that I
should do this thing unto my lord, Jehovah's anointed, to put forth my hand
against him, seeing he is Jehovah's anointed. {7} So David checked his men with
these words, and suffered them not to rise against Saul. And Saul rose up out of
the cave, and went on his way.

I have not sought Matthew's hurt. The things we have done are commanded of the Lord
in Mt.18:15-17 and 1 Tim.5:20. UBM has always obeyed these commands, which are
not retaliation but for the purpose of God's love to bring his stubborn heart to
repentance. The people could not see his sins leading them astray so God proclaimed it
through the witnesses for their sakes and his.

{24:8} David also arose afterward, and went out of the cave, and cried after Saul,
saying, My lord the king. And when Saul looked behind him, David bowed with his
face to the earth, and did obeisance. {9} And David said to Saul, Wherefore
hearkenest thou to men's words, saying, Behold, David seeketh thy hurt? {10}
Behold, this day thine eyes have seen how that Jehovah had delivered thee to-
day into my hand in the cave: and some bade me kill thee; but [mine eye] spared
thee; and I said, I will not put forth my hand against my lord; for he is Jehovah's
anointed. {11} Moreover, my father, see, yea, see the skirt of thy robe in my hand;
for in that I cut off the skirt of thy robe, and killed thee not, know thou and see
that there is neither evil nor transgression in my hand, and I have not sinned
against thee, though thou huntest after my life to take it. {12} Jehovah judge
between me and thee, and Jehovah avenge me of thee; but my hand shall not be
upon thee. {13} As saith the proverb of the ancients, Out of the wicked cometh
forth wickedness; but my hand shall not be upon thee. {14} After whom is the
king of Israel come out? after whom dost thou pursue? after a dead dog, after a
flea. {15} Jehovah therefore be judge, and give sentence between me and thee,
and see, and plead my cause, and deliver me out of thy hand.

Even though we have cut off Matt's skirt, revealing the ugly details of his flesh, we have
spared him in the midst of his camp. We have done good unto Matt but he has returned
it with slander and no evidence. (Matt, please confess your sin, as even Saul did, and
gave up the attack on David and his brethren.)

{24:16} And it came to pass, when David had made an end of speaking these
words unto Saul, that Saul said, Is this thy voice, my son David? And Saul lifted
up his voice, and wept. {17} And he said to David, Thou art more righteous than I;
for thou hast rendered unto me good, whereas I have rendered unto thee evil. {18}
And thou hast declared this day how that thou hast dealt well with me, forasmuch
as when Jehovah had delivered me up into thy hand, thou killedst me not. {19}
For if a man find his enemy, will he let him go well away? wherefore Jehovah
reward thee good for that which thou hast done unto me this day. {20} And now,
behold, I know that thou shalt surely be king, and that the kingdom of Israel shall
be established in thy hand. {21} Swear now therefore unto me by Jehovah, that
thou wilt not cut off my seed after me, and that thou wilt not destroy my name out
of my father's house. {22} And David sware unto Saul. And Saul went home; but
David and his men gat them up unto the stronghold.

Please don't let the Philistine take you out. It isn't the gifts that count before God,
brother, but the fruit of obedience. Those who prophesy but sin willfully will be lost
(Heb.10:26).
{Mt.7:15} Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly are ravening wolves. {16} By their fruits ye shall know them. Do [men]
gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? {17} Even so every good tree bringeth
forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. {7:18} A good tree
cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. {19}
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
{20} Therefore by their fruits ye shall know them. {21} Not every one that saith
unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the
will of my Father who is in heaven. {22} Many will say to me in that day, Lord,
Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and
by thy name do many mighty works? {23} And then will I profess unto them, I
never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I desire the best for you, brother. Please, humble yourself and confess your sin and God
will deliver you. Please step down from your self-exalted position and submit to true
ministers for the sake of your soul.

Love from your servant in Christ,
David



                          The Making of a False Prophet
                                    James Gillispie - 9/27/08
I am not one to kick against the pricks nor to point out a brother's weaknesses;
however, in recent days I have seen wolves in men’s clothing creeping in around the
sheep. As a shepherd who has been called to this position by the good shepherd
Yeshua (Jesus), I fill compelled to start warning the sheep of these false prophets as to
maybe in some way limit the damage that will be done to the sheep.
This is the fist time I have ever mentioned people by name, as I have always said we
should condemn the sin and not the sinner. I still hold to this view but now feel like there
has to be exceptions made. Scripture tells us that when we see a brother in
transgression we should go to him, and if he does not hear our warning then we are to
go to him with a second witness. If at this point he still refuses to receive correction,
then we are to bring him before the body and call him to repentance one final time. If he
still refuses to repent then we are to put him out of the assembly.
All of the individuals mentioned in this article have had numerous opportunities to
repent, but like a strong-willed mule have chosen, rather, to dig their heels in and
remain in their sin. Instead of repenting and being restored, they try to justify their
actions and deeds most of the time by manipulating scripture to accomplish their
justification.
I will be the first to say that I myself am not perfect and that I have made mistakes and
sinned against the Creator of the universe. So you my ask yourself what gives me the
right, then, to point out another when they are in sin. There is one monstrous difference
between me and the people that I am going to mention here. I am not above being
corrected and am not so foolish as to think that I cannot be wrong. And when I am
shown to be in error I immediately go to the Father and beg for His forgiveness and then
take steps to receive the forgiveness of anyone I may have wronged in my
transgression.
The title of this document is "The Making of a False Prophet," so you have probably
already deduced that I will be talking about men who have taken the title of prophet and
made prophecies that proved not to be from God. The men in question are Monty
Judah, a messianic leader located in Oklahoma City, and Mathew Stephen, a self-
proclaimed prophet who travels the country trying to make a name for himself by giving
out prophetic warnings.
I will show that these two men are unquestionably, unrepentant false prophets. I will
show that they have been warned repeatedly and rejected the warning and have
refused to repent for their sin. These men are dangerous to the body more so than your
average false prophet. They are skilled orators and have learned well the art of spiritual
manipulation. In fact, they put me in mind of the old snake oil salesmen so prevalent in
the '30s and '40s. Both men are very charismatic and posses the ability to manipulate a
crowd through emotionalism and this is why they are so dangerous.
To do this I feel I must give you a lesson in what a true prophet is and what one is not.
Most people think that a prophet is a person who has been shown by God something in
the future and then they declare what they have been shown; and then we wait and see
if what they have said comes to pass and if it does then they are a prophet, and if it
does not then they are not. This is not how we are supposed to gauge whether one is a
true prophet or not, according to the Word of God.
The reason most people think this is how they are to judge a true or false prophet is
because scripture says in Deu 18:21-22 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we
know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in
the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing
which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it
presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
While this is the easiest way to tell whether a prophet be true or not, it is not the
standard by which we judge a prophet. We know this also because scripture tells us in
Deu 13:1-3 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth
thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he
spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known,
and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or
that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye
love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
As we clearly see, because of the above passage, the act of predicting something is or
is not going to happen is not what makes a prophet true or untrue.
A true prophet hears from Yah (God) and first calls the people to repentance by telling
them of their transgression, trying to draw them back into covenant with the creator. And
if the people refuse to repent, then he will declare the judgment of Yah. This is the way
all the prophets of old did it and since Yah is not a man Who lies and because He
changes not, this is the way it will always be done if they are truly hearing from Yah
(God). I can cite prophet after prophet to prove this point but because this is merely an
article of declaration and not a book, I will refrain from doing so at this point. There are
also many scriptures in the New Testament to solidify this point. But for time's sake I
think the reasonable can see from the scriptures already mentioned the accusations
that will be introduced are valid.
First, let’s deal with Monty Judah. During the days leading up to the Y2K debacle, Monty
convinced hundreds of people that this was going to be the end of the world. He
convinced them that they would be pushed into a third-world environment in a matter of
days.

Monte Judah's Lion and Lamb Ministries began in 1995 and seems to have grown
quickly, primarily based on the enthusiasm surrounding Judah's dogmatic prophetic
claims. These same claims evidently also quickly became controversial. Consider this
challenge by Monte Judah in the February 1996 "Yavoh" newsletter (emphasis has
been added by bold letters to call attention to the most significant aspects of this
material):

After the Lord instructed me to do so, I declared that the Middle East Peace Accord
of 1993 started the 70th week of Israel. Therefore, I am warning others to look for
specific events to occur in 1996 and 1997 consistent with the timeline and the center
event of the seven-year period, the Abomination of Desolation. To that end, I am
preparing and warning others that the Great Tribulation spoken of by Daniel and
Yeshua will begin Feb/Mar of 1997. These dates were set by God when He started
the 70th week.

Because I teach people to look for specific things, I am criticized as a "date setter." But
in defense of the argument, I remind people that I didn't make the Middle East Peace
Accord of 1993 happen, nor did I select the Feast of Booths by the mouth of Zechariah.
I am drawing a conclusion based on a Scriptural understanding. Further, I have openly
called all men to examine my words and scrutinize them. If what I say does not
happen, then brand me as a false prophet, listen to me no more, and heap the
ridicule on to prevent others from making the same mistake. But I would remind
you in accordance with the Scripture not to despise a prophetic utterance until it has
been proven false.

The irony of this whole situation is stunning. I call for the testing of all prophets. I
have made my message and its measurement clear. If the altar is not stopped in
Feb/Mar of 1997 in Jerusalem, then throw me on the trash heap. But if the altar
service is stopped 3½ years after the peace agreement, will you then trust God to
deliver you? Will you believe the other prophecies that follow?

I could go on and on. In fact, if you would like to know more about his false prophecies
you can go read them for yourself the same place I got this (www.isitso.org). But I
thought that this one was the most telling about his character as a self-appointed
prophet, so I used it. I also agree in part with the writer's evaluation at the end of all the
false prophecies, where the writer states:

In spite of Monte Judah's protestations in the article quoted at the end of the previous
section, it is impossible to "restore" him to his state before he made his false prophetic
pronouncements in 1997. He can be restored to Christian fellowship; he can be restored
to the role of a servant of the brethren. But he can't be restored to a position of a
prophetic teacher whose speculations deserve to be carefully considered. For his record
has shown clearly that he is a misguided man with delusions of grandeur about his
prophetic calling at best—or a false prophet, speaking falsely about God's "direction," at
worst.

The problem is not "forgiving" Monte Judah. The problem is accepting him in the role
which he insists on pursuing. It is he who has destroyed his own credibility.

I say that I agree in part because I do not believe that Monty should be allowed to serve
in any capacity of a shepherd. He has proven that he is untrustworthy and does not
meet the guidelines defined in scripture of even one who desires the office of a bishop.
He is not above reproach. In fact, he has brought much reproach on the gospel and
those who call themselves believers. I do not think that he is merely a misguided man
but a man who desires to fleece the sheep at any cost, even if that means declaring to
them that he has heard from God.

This, however, is not in my mind the most dangerous thing about Monty. Monty disputes
the validly of an entire book in the new testament -- the book of Hebrews; and not only
the book of Hebrews, but many of the writings of the Apostle Paul. First Fruits of Zion
wrote a response to Monty, renouncing the book of Hebrews which he rejected. He
refuses to be accountable to anyone in the body. He is a rogue self-proclaimed prophet
who doubts the validity of scripture and who refuses to repent or be accountable to
anyone. Is this in any way the standard that we see set in scripture? Did not Paul and
the other apostles seek the advice of the elders before they would teach doctrines that
were not widely accepted? (See Acts 15.)

Ok, we have now shown Monty to be a false prophet, a liar and a denier of scripture. So
let's now move on to another false prophet and show him for the deceiver he is, as well.
And that false prophet’s name is Matthew Stephen.

I personally have been on the radio with Matthew Stephen; I always tried to counteract
what he said. In May of 2008 I was on the radio with him and you can still listen to the
podcast at www.nextcrusade.com. Mathew made several false prophecies on this show;
he prophesied that America would be hit by a major earthquake in June of 2008. It did
not happen. He also said something about a tsunami hitting the east coast and the Gulf
and a sinkhole opening up in the middle of a major highway. None of these things have
come to pass and very few people have called him on it. In fact, people have swept it
under the rug and continued to let him have a platform to spew his false prophecies,
doctrines and heresies.

I warned Richard Keltner, the host of Watchmen Radio, on I know at least two
occasions that I did not feel right about Mathew in my spirit. I told him that I did not know
what it was but that something was not right with him and that he should be careful and
be watching him. I also told him that he was what I call a coattail prophet, meaning that
he listened to what the Father was giving other men, then magnify their words to be
something much bigger and grander than in their original context, and then give his
version out like it was his own word. He has done this numerous times.

Now Mathew has gone beyond just being a false prophet. He has become a seducer of
women, an adulterer, a liar and an extortionist. The really sick thing is that he does it all
in the name of Yah (God). He, in my opinion, is as bad as Monty Judah, if not much
worse. You can read all the assorted details that I will not go into in this article at
www.unleavenedbreadministries.org.

I also received a CD that had all of Mathew’s writings and false prophecies on it that
another brother had to remove from his website when he realized how many false
prophecies Mathew had actually made. I went through many of them but in the end did
not feel that this would be necessary to expose Mathew for whom and what he truly is.
He is a wolf, a big one who has cleverly disguised himself as a sheep. If you encounter
this wolf, please be very careful and warn your sheep that he is a predator of the worst
kind.



                                  Not The Church
In conversation with a brother I told him his church was not the church. He looked at me
funny, but went on talking about our subject. Later I remembered that peculiar look and
sent this letter:

Dear Brother,

When I said your church is not the church I never got to explain.

(Gal 5:19,20) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]:
fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife,
jealousies, wraths, factions, divisions,(Note: denominations) parties.

(1Cor 1:10) Now I beseech you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ, that ye all speak the same thing and [that] there be no divisions among
you; but [that] ye be perfected together in the same mind and in the same
judgment. (11) For it hath been signified unto me concerning you, my brethren, by
them [that are of the household] of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
(12) Now this I mean, that each one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos:
and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. (13) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for
you? or were ye baptized into the name of Paul?

(Jn 17:21) that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be in us: that the world may believe that thou didst send me.
(22) And the glory which thou hast given me I have given unto them; that they
may be one, even as we [are] one; (17:23) I in them, and thou in me, that they may
be perfected into one; that the world may know that thou didst send me, and
lovedst them, even as thou lovedst me.

Men divided God's flock. (Acts 20:29) I know that after my departing grievous
wolves shall enter in among you, not sparing the flock. According to the word, there
is only one church in Pensacola. It is called the church in Pensacola. Examples of what
I mean are:

(Rev 2:1) To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These things saith he that
holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, he that walketh in the midst of the
seven golden candlesticks. (2:8) And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
These things saith the first and the last, who was dead, and lived [again]. (2:12)
and to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These things saith he that hath
the sharp two-edged sword. (2:18) And to the angel of the church in Thyatira
write: These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like a flame of fire,
and his feet are like unto burnished brass. (3:1) And to the angel of the church in
Sardis write: These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the
seven stars: I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and thou art
dead. (3:7) And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These things
saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth
and none shall shut, and that shutteth and none openeth. (3:14) And to the angel
of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true
witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

A sect is only a portion of the whole. The church is all who are born of God. You will
have to admit that everyone in your church is not born again any more than in any other
sect of Christianity. There is much to learn from others when they don’t depart from the
Word, but you won’t get to hear it if you are sectarian in spirit. Each sect has a piece of
the truth, but sectarianism keeps us from seeing the other piece. Babylon is divided by
the tongue.

There is a great falling away in the observable church right now. (2Thes 2:3) let no
man beguile you in any wise: for [it will not be,] except the falling away come first,
and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

There are many tares among the body. (Mt 13:24) Another parable set he before
them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man that sowed good
seed in his field: (13:25) but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares
also among the wheat, and went away.

Jesus said "the kingdom of God cometh not with observation." What is observed to be
the church is not. Those who are born of His Spirit and His Word are His true body.
Those who abide in the son are the true body. (Jn 8:31) Jesus therefore said to those
Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, [then] are ye truly my
disciples. (1Jn 2:3) And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his
commandments. (2:4) He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his
commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; (2:5) but whoso keepeth his
word, in him verily hath the love of God been perfected. Hereby we know that we
are in him: (2:6) he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk even as
he walked. (2:24) As for you, let that abide in you which ye heard from the
beginning. If that which ye heard from the beginning abide in you, ye also shall
abide in the Son, and in the Father. (Note: the doctrine once delivered unto the saints
(Jude 6), not modern doctrine).

These verses show us that all the denominations together are not the church. The
people of God world wide who abide in Him (in or out of the denominations) are the
church (and our brothers and sisters).

God Bless You,

Dave




                          Polygamy in the Church?
Question from a sister:

Someone told me that polygamy is allowed by God! I don't believe this but I had no way
to refute this claim. I tried finding some scriptures but to no avail. When I looked this
subject up on the internet I actually found a "Christian" web site promoting polygamy.
What will they think of next? Can you share some scriptures that refute this claim?

My answer:

Under the Law they were permitted to have more than one wife and divorce their wives
because of their “hardness of heart” but under grace there is no such permission.
Jesus said a man could have one wife and "the two shall become one flesh."
(Mt.19:5-8) and said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and
shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh? So that they are no
more two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put
asunder. They say unto him, Why then did Moses command to give a bill of
divorcement, and to put [her] away? He saith unto them, Moses for your hardness
of heart suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it hath not
been so. From the beginning God gave Adam, the Son of God, one wife. It appears his
righteous seed through Seth were monogamous also. Cain’s evil descendant, Lamech,
was the first to take two wives. (Gen.4:19) And Lamech took unto him two wives…

In order that a line of Israel not be extinct the next of kin was permitted to raise up seed
to a dead man’s wife. But the seed of New Testament spiritual Israel is passed on
through the Word (seed or sperma) of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh and
that which is born of the spirit is spirit.

Although they disobeyed God, Kings of Israel were forbidden to multiply wives.
(Dt.17:17-19) Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not
away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. And it shall be,
when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of
this law in a book, out of [that which is] before the priests the Levites: and it shall
be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life; that he may learn to
fear Jehovah his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do
them.

The Apostles had one wife. {1 Cor.9:5} Have we no right to lead about a wife that is
a believer, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brethren of the Lord, and
Cephas?

Of course all of God’s people must be upright but Paul required elders to be “without
reproach” and “blameless” in that they were to be the “husband of one wife.” This
is definitely one wife at a time because fornication is a legal grounds for divorce and
remarriage (1 Cor.7) and death of a spouse is a legal grounds to remarry. (1 Tim.3:2)
The bishop thereforemust be without reproach, the husband of one wife,
temperate, sober-minded, orderly, given to hospitality, apt to teach. (12) Let
deacons behusbands of one wife, ruling [their] children and their own houses
well. (Tit.1:6,7)if any man is blameless, the husband of one wife, having children
that believe, who are not accused of riot or unruly. For the bishop must be
blameless, as God's steward… If the elders or the mature in the Lord need to be
upright in having one wife, all need to be this way to be mature.

The husband is the head of one wife as Christ is the head of one church. (Epe.5:23-33)
For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church,
[being] himself the saviour of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so
[let] the wives also [be] to their husbands in everything. Husbands, love your
wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself up for it; that he
might sanctify it, having cleansed it by the washing of water with the word, that
he might present the church to himself a glorious [church], not having spot or
wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Even so
ought husbands also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He that loveth
his own wife loveth himself: for no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth
and cherisheth it, even as Christ also the church; because we are members of his
body. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to
his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is great: but I speak in
regard of Christ and of the church. Nevertheless do ye also severally love each
one his own wife even as himself; and [let] the wife [see] that she fear her
husband.
                           Pray for Your Enemies
                                 Dean Winchell - 5/29/12

I want to relate one instance where prayer was needed for professing 'Christians' who
were offensive. I know that the Lord will grant you discernment. During the time of this
account, I confess that I had made my own mistakes dealing with the national staff.
Sometimes, it's not what is done but how things are done. Not in what is communicated,
but in the spirit in which the words are spoken.

I may have only related this story briefly once to my mother.

It was in Zaire in 1995 on breathtaking Lake Tanganika. I working as an Operations
Manager with a well-known Christian NGO. I was the only male among four other
Christian female workers like myself. Our mandate was to protect the unaccompanied
children in 12 refugee camps (population 250,000). My job was not so much in the
camps with the Rwandan Hutus, but more in our compound with the accounting,
procurement, security, transport, communications, staff, volleyball etc. I brought my big
tool box with me from the U.S.

The local NGOs and GOs took turns hosting a fete every Saturday night. There was
swimming in the lake on Sunday (look out for the hippos) and afterward, our NGO
invited all comers for volleyball at our compound every week. This was to reach out and
instill cooperation in our international relief community. We provided cold, filtered
drinking water for all ex-pats. The water was boiled on charcoal, ceramic filtered, bottled
and then we would run the generator to power the fridge.

But it was also a dark, cursed place and we were all pretty tired. We lived in our office.
You sweat under the mosquito netting until 1:30AM with no fans. The 28 local workers
would arrive at 7:00 AM and 12-plus hour days. Think of malaria and getting robbed at
gunpoint by the local gendarme at night, which happened. No banks, no phones, no
post office, no buses, no power, no justice. If you bought a coke in town, they would
open it in front of your eyes so you could be confident that it hadn't been poisoned. It
was that kind of place. Some of the times were fun and then other times weren't fun at
all. Like a switch: Fun/Not Fun.

One evening, we received word by HF radio from Nairobi during our nightly check-in.
We were to pick up a visiting couple at the airport in Bukavu, Zaire, 90 miles away,
mostly by dirt track. Once per month this road was mined by the Rwandan military. We
would wait until a random truck exploded and then drive to the 'resort' town where the
airport was. It was a three hour-plus drive along the hostile borders of Burundi and
Rwanda, but at least you could get out of town for a day or two. We would also bring
back drums of gasoline and provision in the back of the pickup truck for our mission. At
least the local population didn't have many guns. Sadly, this was because, if while in the
process of robbing your food or ravaging a family member at night, the local Gendarme
should find a weapon, they would take the man of the house outside and shoot him. No
questions asked. We drove along the beautiful, mountainous escarpment with the
Ruzizi River Valley far below. Later, this would be where the Zairois military/NATO
contingent 'tied up' and then fed over 100 innocent local men to the crocodiles because
of their Rwandan Tutsi descent (Banya-Mulenge). Some of the victims had lived in the
community for over 100 years. Stuff you remember.

We picked up the couple, as instructed, at the airport and, as requested, brought them
to an expensive resort overlooking Lake Bukavu, a water-filled dormant volcano ringed
with hills from the last eruption. It was a very beautiful lake in appearance, but a lake
where no one could swim or fish because of the frequent release of toxic volcanic
gases. People just disappeared or were found dead on those waters. The American
woman was a professor in Israel and had come to collect refugee data so she could
publish her dissertation. There were 'experts' in the field in those days. The running joke
was than an ‘expert’ meant someone 3000 miles from home with a briefcase. Some of
these experts entered into the suffering of other people to glean data. I learned they
would use this data to augment their credentials while enjoying the appearance of a real
humanitarian back home in their ivory tower. When we arrived back at our compound,
the couple immediately began demanding things and issuing orders to the ex-pat staff.
This seemed out of place to us because we all shared, helped and tried to love each
other in the Lord, despite the conditions and in spite of ourselves. Off to the side, I
mentioned to the husband that the girls were tired and suggested that we should just
take things in stride.

At this, the husband told me in no uncertain terms, that if I didn't do everything and give
them everything they required, that he was going to report me to the important people at
our NGO headquarters and they would not look kindly on any dissension and there
might be repercussions.

At that time, our NGO was located in a very wealthy area in the U.S. He had an air
about him that suggested he was connected and had some money, too. The old man
inside of me started talking really loud about then. The old man offered two options, only
one of which was verbal. I chose neither. I guess this man had pegged me for just
another ambitious grunt in the field who was concerned for his position and rice bowl in
the organization. I said nothing at that point. We could see that adversity was in the
gates. I thought, Okay, nicey-nice, be patient, faithful and wait.

I did not rebuke him.

A few minutes later, I informed the others that I was cancelling my overdue leave to
Nairobi and would help out. The couple questioned my reasons for this and asked if
they had anything to do with my decision. To that I responded, "Nooooooo."

And so their 'urgent' grind organ turned. The jist of their prevailing attitude was that all of
the orphans could just wait their turn, if that were possible. While receiving our
hospitality, they collected their data over six long days of gobbling up most of the
resources and our goodwill. Their ambitions came to a sudden end when I announced
that the gas generator was missing a part. This meant that the 'Christian' couple was
going to have to use someone else to enter the reams of carefully handwritten data into
their special laptop computer with their now famous mathematical software in a town
that had electricity. This was true. Like a big dummy, I had lost a part of the carburetor
linkage in the dust while doing some maintenance. It was like it had disappeared! I now
confess that I was remiss in mentioning that there might have been a second, donated
and brand new, blue 'diesel' generator with an electric start somewhere or other. But
this proved out the often overlooked important fact, that a person can be counted a hero
by those around him if he can learn to bridle his tongue in due season. The wistful
response from the woman was only two words: "You're lucky!" I would add, “And your
little dog, too.” But that wouldn’t be accurate. She wasn't smiling and she meant it. It
made me wonder, What was the source of this utter contempt? And then there was the
faint sound of quiet rejoicing in the background ... it was the sound of the tired girls.

The driver and I began the trek back to where we had found them in Bukavu. It was the
hot and dry season and the dust was really flying. We were in high spirits, bouncing
along our Toyota HiLux pickup with big mud dogs and fat Codan self-tuning HF antenna
whipping the air on the front bumper. I remember looking at them in the back seat of the
king cab and seeing that they both had donned matching pink bandanas -- bandit style -
- over their faces. The woman mentioned that she was on the NGO account and
insisted on staying in the absolute, best resort in town and she suggested I stay there
with them. I quietly declined and, instead, stayed at my favorite, regular, friendly
Christian guest house for $17 per night which included food! God bless them! I have to
admit that their cavalier attitude of spending really galled me inside because my father
had told me of this organization. We had faithfully supported this NGO for many years.
That was how I came to sign a contract with them when looking to serve the Lord as a
helper. A helper is a high calling, not to be confused with a grunt, but maybe a grunt for
Jesus. There is a world of difference, Mister. :)

Later that evening, I had to return to the resort to tell them the hour they could expect
their morning pickup ride to the airport. As I approached their door, I could hear the
wife's shrill voice screaming at her husband with a ferocity and at such a volume as I
had never heard before or since from anyone, anywhere. The husband answered the
door and looked pretty sheepish. I guess he could see something on my face. I’m
guessing wincing pain. At that moment, I actually felt bad for him, but then it passed.
The next day, they were delivered to the airport on time and our paths separated. We
forgot all about those two, as our days filled back up in the camps and at the compound.
Forgive and forget, onward and over. I did find that new genny and she ran sweet. Pure
diesel.

It never occurred to me to pray for them.

Not long after that, our team received the word over the radio. While in Africa, the
husband had flown into an area where there was a dispute. The small plane carrying
him went down and he was killed. Details were sketchy. You learn to take internal
rumors and hype with a grain of salt. Was this an act of mercy and the Lord was
gathering His own? Was the man a martyr serving the poor? Who am I to judge? The
man was dead.

The following year, after the mission had closed due to warfare, I was back in the States
when the phone rang. It was the widow! She told me what she was doing and she said
how she admired the way I took care of those girls. I gave her my condolences. I
thanked her for the call. That was all.

I am only aware of two other instances where an offensive person, a professing
'Christian,' was taken away in short order. In one instance, it was the seemingly
innocent spouse of the offender who died. The other, a handsome and healthy man in
his prime of years died suddenly within six months of the offense. These deaths were
brought to my attention by others who had taken notice of such things. I’m a little blind
when it comes to connecting the dots between people. Both of these offenders had
worked their way deep inside good Christian organizations. The lesson here is not that
we should forgive and forget only, but rather forgive, PRAY and forget! God is not a
respecter of persons and He will not be mocked! I’ll work out my salvation with fear and
trembling. As my grandmother used to say, “Keep two feet in one shoe.”

I will pray for my enemies and be very careful of myself, lest I sin against the love of the
Lord and offend someone, especially a fellow partaker in the worldwide body of Christ.
Preserve me, Lord, and put in me a repentant heart, quick to repent and quick to
forgive. Thank You, Lord, for Your mercy and grace. Help me to abide in You. Be kind
and love one another.

Amen. Praise Jesus! God Bless UBM!




                          Religion's True Identity
                                  Jared Smith - 7/26/08
When I was in Bible College, I remember a lesson that was taught concerning religion.
The lesson was called “Bundt Pan.” Now you may be wondering what a bundt pan used
for making upside-down cake has to do with religion. The reason I say that is because I
thought the same thing. Now mind you, the Bible College that I attended was all men,
so there were a lot of topics covered throughout the courses and semesters were aimed
at men. They were written for men to understand, and that is why this particular lesson
is interesting.
Now before I begin, I just want to say that if you are one who has a weak stomach or
just got done eating a wonderful dinner of steak and potatoes now may not be the right
time to read this. This lesson was a little graphic and I thank God that I had not eaten
before I heard it. This just serves as a disclaimer to those who may feel sick after
reading this, but let it speak to you because it is a powerful revelation of what religion
truly is.
So, you can metaphorically describe religion as to taking a bundt pan, the pan that is
used to make upside-down cakes, and vomiting into it. Keep vomiting until you get it full.
Then stick it into the oven and bake it. Vomit will harden and turn into gelatin if you bake
it in an oven, surprisingly enough. Now, once the “vomit cake” is finished baking you are
able to flip it onto a saucer. Yes, the smell is horrible and the looks of the thing is
enough to make you vomit even more, but let me go further into this. Take chocolate
syrup and drench the thing in it. Let it layer and harden and layer and harden. Keep on
layering it until the smell of the vomit is gone and you begin to smell the chocolate
exterior. Now, take some whipped cream and cherries and such and decorate it. Make it
look appealing to the eye.
This is where I want to stop and make spiritual descriptions of this. You are probably
wondering where I am going with this. Today, religion plays a major role in life as we
know it. People who claim to be religious are in a league of their own in society. Now do
not get religion mixed up with the selfless faith and discipleship Christ has called us to
live to. Religion is what the Pharisees and Sadducees taught in the temples, making a
show of your belief in God and doing everything for personal gain. God has called us to
die to self, not lift self up. He has called us to deny ourselves, not build ourselves up.
Religion teaches that we can do whatever we want as long as we meet the minimum
standards (laws) of the church and the hierarchal leaders of that church. You can live
like hell from Monday to Saturday but make sure you put on your “Sunday best” on
Sunday. Religion teaches that there are many ways to heaven and many different ways
to practice the religion of choice. This is where I am coming from…
Religion is just as good as that bundt pan chocolate covered vomit cake. It looks so
good from the outside and is appealing to the eye (the world, in this case) but once you
take the knife and cut into it, you reveal its true identity -- vomit puke junk. Jesus came
not to bring peace, but to bring a SWORD. His Word is like a two-edged SWORD that is
sharper than any weapon wielded by the hand of man. He cuts through religion to
reveal its true identity to the ones He loves. His children will discern modern-day
accepted religion from selfless, sacrificial, unpopular, true discipleship. Jesus said to
beware the leaven of the Pharisees. There are many Pharisees in today’s world. There
are many false people who call themselves called of God and appointed by God, but in
truth, when you cut into it with the Word of God you reveal that person’s true identity
and reason for being where they are: personal gain and material wealth.
True disciples of God are called to a higher standard.



                            Sarah Palin Infected?
UBM does not endorse everything that is stated in the videos below.

--- On Mon, 9/08/08, David Eells wrote:

...that Sarah Palin had the false revival spirits came to me a couple of times. I wasn't
sure it was a word from the Lord.
Then I received these e-mails:

April S. - 9/09/08

How can we imagine Christians being hated and persecuted in the US?

Not too hard to see how it starts. Look at how Sarah Palin is shown as the model of
discipleship, along with her church Wasilla A/G and all of the teachings, including Todd
Bentley, that have passed through there.

Palin is known through Europe as "having a Bible in hand" and being seen by the world
as an accurate picture of a disciple.

Join this with John McCain's strong desire for war provocation of Russia... we can see
how this war-mongering is linked with "Third Wave/New Apostolic/Latter Rain" beliefs.

Garrett Crawford - 9/08/08

The Wasilla Assembly of God, Sarah Palin's home church, has received the "Third
Wave" Lakeland outpouring spirits. Some members went to Florida and brought them
back, then they started having kooky chaotic meetings there. The whole church is
overcome with the spirits. I have seen actual video that attests to it. I wonder if these
spirits are in Sarah Palin, thus anointing her and opening the door for her rise to the
forefront of politics in America. She wasn't even on the radar six months ago and now
she has become a few steps away from the presidency. There is a hysteria concerning
her now, like what I have seen with Todd Bentley and other Charismatic personas.
Once again, just a thought. I have included the 10-minute video if you would like to see
what is going on in her church. It includes video of her being there as well.

A lot of the video was done in Rick Joyner's Morningstar church, which has very close
ties to the Wasilla Assembly of God. The pastor and many of the parishioners went to
Rick's church for a conference or something, and I think it goes without saying that they
brought back whatever was there. Rick Joyner is a spiritual father of Todd Bentley; he
operates in the same false signs and wonders.

JoAnn Brown - 9/08/08

Palin's Weird Religious Right Pentecostal Theology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2Hyiitpys&feature=player_embedded




       Palin's Churches and the Third Wave
The 10 minute video documentary "Sarah Palin's Churches and The New Wave" (currently also
                     titled as "Sarah Palin's Demon Haunted Churches)

                                       By Bruce Wilson

Sarah Palin's churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical
   by the Assemblies of God in 1949. This is the same 'Spiritual Warfare' movement that was
  featured in the award winning movie, "Jesus Camp," which showed young children being
   trained to do battle for the Lord. At least three of four of Palin's churches are involved with
major organizations and leaders of this movement, which is referred to as The Third Wave of the
Holy Spirit or the New Apostolic Reformation. The movement is training a young "Joel's Army"
                      to take dominion over the United States and the world.

                                       Posted - 08/09/08

                   Click on "comments" below to read or post comments

Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of
God in Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002: over
two and 1/2 decades. Sarah Palin's extensive pattern of association with the Wasilla Assembly of
God has continued nearly up to the day she was picked by Senator John McCain as a vice-
presidential running mate. Palin's dedication to the Wasilla church is indicated by a Saturday,
September 7, 2008, McClatchy news service story detailing possibly improper use of state travel
funds by Palin for a trip she made to Wasilla, Alaska to attend, on June 8, 2008, both a Wasilla
Assembly of God "Masters Commission" graduation ceremony and also a multi-church Wasilla
area event known as "One Lord Sunday." At the latter event, Palin and Alaska LT Governor
Scott Parnell were publicly blessed, onstage before an estimated crowd of 6,000, through the
"laying on of hands" by Wasilla Assembly of God's Head Pastor Ed Kalnins whose sermons
espouse such theological concepts as the possession of geographic territories by demonic spirits
and the inter-generational transmission of family "curses". Palin has also been blessed, or
"anointed," by an African cleric, prominent in the Third Wave movement, who has repeatedly
visited the Wasilla Assembly of God and claims to have effected positive, dramatic social
change in a Kenyan town by driving out a "spirit of witchcraft."

The Wasilla Assembly of God church is deeply involved with both Third Wave activities and
theology. Their Master's Commission program is part of an three year post-high school
international training program with studies in prophecy, intercessory prayer, Biblical exegesis,
authority and leadership. The pastor, Ed Kalnins, and Masters Commission students have
traveled to South Carolina to participate in a "prophetic conference" at Morningstar Ministries,
one of the major ministries of the Third Wave movement. Becky Fischer was a pastor at
Morningstar prior to being featured in the movie "Jesus Camp." The head of prophecy at
Morningstar, Steve Thompson, is currently scheduled to do a prophecy seminar at the Wasilla
Assembly of God. Other major leaders in the movement have also traveled to Wasilla to visit and
speak at the church.
The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and
1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will
be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the
existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under
the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles
and others anointed by God. The young generation will form "Joel's Army" to rise up and battle
evil and retake the earth for God.

While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs
for decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General
Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000. The
beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of 'strategic level spiritual warfare' to
expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive
charismatic manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, 'slain in the spirit,' and
congregations laughing, jerking, and shrieking uncontrollably.

In early 2008 an outbreak of those phenomena commenced at the palatial former ministry estate
of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, recently bought up and restored by prominent Third Wave
author and leader Rick Joyner's Morningstar Ministries. The (spiritual) "breakout" lasted for
many weeks and was publicized in an extensive collection of video footage available on
YouTube. Healing services in the Third Wave movement claim to heal the sick and injured
through methods that in some cases can appear bizarre - including, as in recent cases involving
Todd Bentley, the patient being head butted or kicked by the anointed healer. Recipients of such
"spiritual" or miraculous healing make a wide range of astonishing claims - to have been cured
of life-threatening illnesses, had joints repaired or replaced, been given gold teeth or gold
fillings, regrown stunted limbs and even had deformed skeletal structures straightened and
reshaped. Worldwide mission efforts of the movement are built around the idea of combating
witches, warlocks, and generational curses, which prevent churches from being able to take root.

Thomas Muthee visited Wasilla Assembly of God and gave 10 consecutive sermons at the
church, from October 11-16 2005. As both Palin and Wasilla AoG Head Pastor Ed Kalnins have
attested, Thomas Muthee 'prayed over' Sarah Palin and entreated God to "make a way" prior to
Palin's successful bid for the Alaska governorship. Muthee made a return visit to the Wasilla
Assembly of God in late 2008. Thomas Muthee's Word of Faith Church is featured in the
"Transformations" video which details an account on how Muthee drove "the spirit of
witchcraft" out of Kiambu, Kenya, liberating the town from its territorial demonic possession
and enabling a miraculous societal transformation. The "Transformations" video set is used as an
argument for social improvement through spiritual instead of human means, and as the best
method for fighting corruption, crime, drugs and even environmental degradation.

In the video, producer George Otis declares that after Thomas Muthee and his followers
banished the "spirit of witchcraft" from the town, the crime rate in Kiambu dropped almost to
zero, along with the rate of alcoholism, and according to Otis most of the residents of the town
joined churches. The "Transformations" video has helped spark a network of 'Transformation'
ministries and mission organizations and 'transformation' has become a buzz word for change
based on supernatural instead of human efforts.
The Third Wave, also known as the New Apostolic Reformation, is a network of Apostles, many
of them grouped around C. Peter Wagner, founder of the World Prayer Center. This center,
which was built in coordination with Ted Haggard and his New Life Church in Colorado
Springs, was featured in an article by Jeff Sharlet in Harpers, May 2005, "Soldiers of Christ."
Sharlet was one of the first to write in the secular press about the World Prayer Center which is
often referred to by those familiar with the Third Wave as the 'Pentagon for Spiritual Warfare.' It
features computer systems that store the data of communities around the world, mapping out
unsaved peoples' groups and spiritual mapping information for spiritual warfare. Wagner has his
own group of about 500 Apostles in his council and each of these Apostles has ministries under
their authority, sometimes hundreds or thousands. Recently various networks of Apostles came
together to form the Revival Alliance. Leaders of the Revival Alliance including Rick Joyner of
Morningstar anointed Todd Bentley whose Lakeland Healing Revival has recently been a
controversial topic in the Evangelical world.

Wagner's top leaders often conduct spiritual warfare campaigns against the demons that block
the acceptance of their brand of Christian belief, such as 'Operation Ice Castle' in the Himalayas
in 1997. Several of their top prophets and generals of intercession spent weeks in intensive
prayer to "confront the Queen of Heaven." This queen is considered by them to be one of the
most powerful demons over the earth and is the Great Harlot of Mystery Babylon in Revelation.
(The "Great Harlot [or 'whore'] of Mystery Babylon" theme also figures prominently in the
sermons of Texas megachurch pastor and Christians United For Israel founder John Hagee,
former endorser of John McCain's 2008 presidential bid.) Wagner and his group also claim that
the Queen of Heaven is Diana, the pagan god of the biblical book Ephesians and the god of Mary
veneration in the Roman Catholic Church. Following the 'Operation Ice Castle' prayer excursion
which included planting a flag for Jesus on Mt. Everest, one of the lead prayer intercessors from
the excursion, Ana Mendez, reported that there had been dramatic results including, "millions
have come to faith in Asia... and other things happened which I believe are also connected...an
earthquake had destroyed the basilica of Assisi, where the Pope had called a meeting of all world
religions; a hurricane destroyed the infamous temple 'Baal-Christ' in Acapulco, Mexico; the
Princes Diana died... and Mother Theresa died in India, one of the most famous advocates of
Mary as Co-Redeemer."

Mike Rose, senior pastor of Juneau Christian Center has a long relationship with Rodney
Howard -Browne, credited with being the instigator of the outbreak of 'Holy Laughter' around
the world, including the Toronto Airport Revival.

Church of the Rock, led by Senior Pastor David Pepper, has taken their youth to participate in
'The Call, Nashville.' This event is held at various locations around the country under the
leadership of Lou Engle, also featured in the movie "Jesus Camp." At these events youth are
worked into a frenzy of anger and consternation at supposed national moral corruption. Engle,
who shuffles while he preaches in imitation of Jewish prayer, is featured toward the end of the
"Jesus Camp" video documentary.

The Third Wave movement is cross-denomination and is not synonymous with any specific
denomination, nor is it synonymous with Evangelical or Fundamentalist. Although the
movement emerged from Pentecostalism, it draws its support from a variety of denominations
and religious streams. They believe they are forming a post-denominational church to take the
world for the end times. To date, all of the writing and objections to this movement have
emerged from other Evangelicals and Fundamentalists who believe the movement to be
unbiblical. Also, it is other conservative churches that refuse to embrace the 'outpouring of the
Spirit' that are targets of much of the anger of the movement.

You can find more information on the Third Wave movement and additional links to the
activities of Palin's churches on www.Talk2action.org in the following articles:


Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave, Part One

Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave, Part Two (with embedded video.)

The video is also posted here.

Documentation of the Video and Supporting Articles
Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave
Also posted as Palin's Demon Haunted Churches

Video Clips
(Note that all video clips are taken from original sources or sources promoting and supporting
the Third Wave/New Apostolic Reformation.)

Bishop Thomas Muthee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvxWl7jXr0
Transformations I, Trailer
George Otis, Sentinel Group

Morningstar Ministries clips including cellphone anointing, portal to Jesus
http://www.prophetic.tv/morningstar/
Holy Spirit Breakout Day # 1 and 2, Day #9, and Week #15
On Prophetic TV, Morningstar Ministries full Breakout series

Wasilla Master's Commission
http://www.mcwasillaalaska.com/
Main website with links to Master's Commission, Master's Commission videos and photos

Wasilla AoG bulletin graphics, Wasilla AoG sermons, Wasilla AoG videos
http://www.wasillaag.org/
Wasilla Assembly of God main site clips used:

Music repeated in video and sermon with chants of `Jesus, Jesus'
Wasilla AoG sermon by Pastor Todd Stafford, "In Desperate Times", January 15, 2007.
Master's Commission Graduation Ceremony, June 8, 2008
Sarah Palin giving Master's Commission speech
Posted on the Wasilla AoG site on June 8, 2008

Anointing of Leaders from auxiliary site
http://app.razorplanet.com/acct/40149-8554/tmpl/index.php?s=gl&am
p;nid=53521&preview=true
From Wasilla AoG links to site

Quote about demonic strongholds and generational curses
Ed Kalnins, sermon, September 26, 2004
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:gF16SYYnXC0J:www.wasillaag.n
et/2004.html+Kalnins,Canaanite&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1& ;gl=us

Lou Engle, Rick Joyner from Underground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7sSZ7Ux3Hg
Underground by www.underthethreshold
Production of Brian Wages, Music/Art Director, Oakleaf Christian Fellowship

Photos at Our Hand at Youth Conference 2008
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile& amp;friendID=49580719
Photos posted on site of Wasilla AoG staff member, Buster Barlow

`One Lord Sunday'
http://gov.state.ak.us/large_photo.php?id=153
Event photos from Wasilla AoG posted on Alaska State Government website

____

Supplemental Documentation
(Hundreds of sources have been used in this research. Following is list of websites of featured
organizations and a selection of previously published articles and books used as sources.)

Bishop Thomas Muthee

http://www.wofchurchke.org/
Word of Faith Church, Muthee's ministry in Kenya

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:3z9krIjeCUcJ:www.charismamag.
com/display.php%3Fid%3D786+Thomas+Muthee+witch&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=5&gl=us
Charisma Magazine, January 2001, Strang Publishing

http://www.csmonitor.com/1999/0923/p15s1.html
Muthee's story in Christian Science Monitor,
Also includes information on George Otis, Sentinel Group and Transformations videos
"C. Peter Wagner, head of Global Harvest Ministries in Colorado Springs, Colo., is in the
vanguard of the movement. He defines three levels of spiritual warfare: "Ground-level" involves
casting demons out of individuals; "occult-level warfare" involves more organized "powers of
darkness" [They target here New Age thought, Tibetan Buddhism, Freemasonry, etc.]; and
"strategic-level warfare" directly "confronts 'territorial spirits' assigned by Satan to coordinate
activities over a geographical area."

Transformations Videos, George Otis, Sentinel Group

http://www.sentinelgroup.org/
Sentinel Group website

http://www.sentinelgroup.org/vsg2001.asp
Transformations video marketing

http://www.ijfm.org/PDFs_IJFM/15_4_PDFs/ijfm_15_4.pdf
George Otis article, Recognizing and Defeating the Powers of Darkness
International Journal of Frontier Missions, Vol. 15:4, Oct - Dec. 98
Pp 183 - 192

Morningstar Ministries

http://www.morningstarministries.org/
Morningstar Ministries website

http://www.morningstarministries.org/Group/Group.aspx?ID=10000296 27
Holy Spirit Breakout site with links

http://www.prophetic.tv/morningstar/
Holy Spirit Breakout links for all sessions

http://www.morningstarministries.org/Groups/1000012510/MorningSta r_Ministries/Councils
link to ministries including CSCL

http://www.morningstarministries.org/Group/Group.aspx?id=10000125 10#CSCL
Link to Comenius School of Creative Learning

http://www.prophetic.tv/morningstar/index.php?p=2
Access to Holy Spirit Breakout videos

http://www.morningstarministries.org/PaymentGroup/Registration.as
px?payment_group_id=1000000639
Worship and Warfare Conference, September 22 - 24, 2008

http://www.morningstarministries.org/Groups/1000017258/MorningSta r_Ministries/MSU.aspx
Morningstar University, Releasing a Supernatural Army to Transform the World
Lou Engle, The Call

http://www.louengle.com/
Lou Engle ministries site including The Call and Justice House of Prayer

http://www.thecall.com/
The Call

http://www.thecall.com/Groups/1000029166/TheCall/About/Advisory_T eam.aspx
The Call advisory board and promo video for upcoming event

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/
Jesus Camp, directed by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady, Magnolia, 2007

New Apostolic Reformation
C. Peter Wagner, Global Harvest Ministries, World Prayer Center

http://jeffsharlet.com/articles/soldiers_of_christ.pdf
Soldiers of Christ, Harpers, May 2005

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/may/2.36.html
Prayer Warriors, Christianity Today, May 2003

http://www.globalharvest.org/index.asp?action=newapostolic
C. Peter Wagner's Global Harvest Ministry, ministry website archive
Summary of book Churchquake explaining the purpose of New Apostolic Reformation
Wagner describes how he named the movement and how they will change the church.

"The majority of the new apostolic churches not only believe in the work of the Holy Spirit, but
they also regularly invite Him to come into their midst to bring supernatural power. It is
commonplace, therefore, to observe active ministries of healing, demonic deliverance, spiritual
warfare, prophecy, falling in the Spirit, spiritual mapping, prophetic acts, fervent intercession
and travail, and so on in new apostolic churches".

https://kidsinministry.org//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=93
Website for ministry of Becky Fischer, minister featured in the movie, Jesus Camp
Kids in Ministry International

http://www.generals.org/
Generals of Intercession, ministry of Cindy Jacobs
General Council of Assemblies of God

http://www.ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/pp_endtime_revival.cfm

Response to Resolution 16, Adopted by General Presbyter, August 11, 2000
Spiritual Warfare, Spiritual Mapping

-C. Peter Wagner, Confronting the Powers (Ventura, CA: Regal Books, 1996)

-C. Peter Wagner, Confronting the Queen of Heaven ( Colorado Springs, Colorado, Wagner
Publication, 1998, 2001

-C, Peter Wagner, editor, Praying Through the 100 Gateway Cities of the 10/40 Window
(Seattle, WA, YWAM Publishing, 1994)

-Cindy Jacobs, Possessing the Gates of the Enemy: A Training Manual for Militant Intercession
(Grand Rapids, MI Chosen Publishers, , 1994)

-Francis Frangipane, The Three Battlegrounds (Arrow Publishers, Division of Frangipane, Inc.,
1996)

-Steve Thompson, You May All Prophecy (Shippensburg, PA , Destiny Image Publishers, ,
2003)

-Rick Joyner, The Final Quest (, New Kensington, PA ,Whitaker House, 1997)

-Rick Joyner, The Torch and the Sword (Charlotte NC, Morningstar Publications and Ministries,
2006)

http://www.lausanne.org/nairobi-2000/overview.html
Deliver Us From Evil Consultation
The Lausanne Movement, Consultation on Spiritual Warfare

http://www.lausanne.org/nairobi-2000/documents.html
documents from Deliver Us from Evil,Lausanne Consultation

http://www.faithalone.org/journal/1997i/Hart.html
The Gospel and Spiritual Warfare: A Review of Peter Wagner's "Confronting the
Powers"Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society, Spring 1997 -- Volume 10:18

http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2008-0710-20070 6/holvast.pdf
Spiritual Mapping: The Turbulent Career of a Contested American Missionary Paradigm, 1989 -
2005
De Turbulente Carriere van een Omstreden Americkaans Zendingsparadigma, 1989 - 2005
Rene Holvast
Universeit Utrecht
Doctoral Thesis , July 11, 1008

http://books.google.com/books?id=ulsXtyX7JY4C&dq=occult-level
+warfare&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0
Discerning the Spirit(s): A Pentecostal-charismatic Contribution to Christian Theology of
Religions
By Amos Yong
Published by Continuum International Publishing Group, 2000
ISBN 1841271330, 9781841271330
392 pages

http://books.google.com/books?id=rixQ7tW0ZBQC&dq=%22covering+
theology%22&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0
Spiritual Warfare: A Struggle for Truth
By Russell Sharrock
Published by Lulu.com, 2007
ISBN 184753094X, 9781847530943
408 pages

http://blogs.salon.com/0003494/stories/2004/10/31/christianitySpi
ritualWarfareAndSatanicPanic.html
Bartholomew's Notes on Religion
Compilation of articles on Spiritual Warfare and Satanic Panic

Master's Commission and Curriculum

http://www.mcin.org/modules.php?name=MC_Info

http://www.transformingmelbourne.org/au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12
2:the-ana-mendez-story&catid=54:testimonies&Itemid=74 Master's Commission International

http://icitc.org/
France Frangipane, In Christ Image Training materials

http://app.razorplanet.com/acct/40149-8554/tmpl/index.php?s=au&am
p;nid=3731&news_id=759&null=0
Frangipane teaching notes on Wasilla site

http://frangipane.org/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pag
ename=FaithHighway/Globals/DisplayTextMessage&PROJECTPATH=100
00/1000/728&sermonid=textsermon_1218730599145&customerTyp
eLabel=Weekly&sermontitle=Elijah,%20Jehu,%20and%20the%20War%2
0Against%20Jezebel
Frances Frangipane Articles
We must stop living for comfort as long as her harlotries and witchcrafts are so many in
our land. We must refuse to settle for a false peace based on compromise and fear,
especially when the Spirit of God is calling for war!

General History
http://books.google.com/books?id=QYpD4CEqgrUC&dq=george+warno
ck+latter+rain&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0
Spirit of the Last Days: Pentecostal Eschatology in Conversation with Jürgen Moltmann
By Peter Althouse
Published by Continuum International Publishing Group, 2003
ISBN 0826466850, 9780826466853

http://books.google.com/books?id=syUupeVJOz4C&dq=george+warno
ck+latter+rain&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0
Encyclopedia of evangelicalism
By Randall Herbert Balmer
Published by Westminster John Knox Press, 2002
ISBN 0664224091, 9780664224097
654 pages
Assemblies of God and Pentecostal Holiness Church expelled Latter Rain leaders from the
Church

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/8/114332/7479

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Republicans Born Again
Bible Belt evangelicals unhappy with McCain take simplistic comfort in Palin as VP candidate

By Eric Margolis
09/09/08 "Toronto Sun" -- - PARIS - Trying to explain American politics to my French friends
and Paris media is not easy. They are still struggling to understand how Barack Obama popped
out of nowhere to run for the world's most powerful office.

Now the French are even more stunned and confused by Sen. John McCain's surprise vice-
presidential choice of Gov. Sarah Palin of Wasilla, Alaska, a hamlet just a snowball's throw from
the North Pole.

Frenchmen, being French, think she has nice legs. But no one here can understand why
Republicans picked a lady whose primary experience was being mayor of a one-husky town and
making moose stew.

"Mon dieu," one Parisian told me. "Those crazy Republicans must have the wish of death." No,
no I explained. The party is being born again.

Palin's emergence simply confirms the final dumbing down and ruralization of the Republican
Party, and its metamorphosis into a right wing politico-religious movement.

The pistol-packing Sarah Palin is the party's new housewife saint, a cross between Annie Oakley
and Joan of Arc.

Two factors led McCain to his dramatic decision. First, 53% of American voters are women. The
choice of Palin clearly was an attempt to grab disgruntled Democratic female voters who are still
fuming that their heroine, Hillary Clinton, was a woman scorned.

CLUMSY PLOY

But McCain's clumsy ploy may insult more Democratic female voters than it will attract. Palin,
save for being a woman, is against almost everything Hillary Clinton supports.

Far more important, McCain chose Palin as his running mate because she is an in-your-face,
born-again, evangelical Christian. Some 44-50% of Republican voters now call themselves
evangelical Christians.

Concentrated in America's deep heartland and southern Bible Belt, these ultra conservative,
fundamentalist white Protestants provided the Bush administration's core support in a nation
where 63% believe every word in the Bible is true. Evangelical TV ayatollahs have become
major political figures on America's right.

Many evangelicals believe in the absolute literal nature of the Scriptures, biblical prophecy, the
Messiah's imminent return, and mankind's destruction. They oppose evolution and ecology.
Evangelism has become the Republican Party's official religion, and Mrs. Palin its new high
priestess.

The evangelist's view of foreign policy is simple. Either wicked France, Russia or the UN is the
anti-Christ (take your pick). Muslims are evil and a menace. Israel is the paramount foreign
policy issue. Support for Israel must be absolute and unlimited. All Palestinians must be expelled
from the biblical Holy Land, the world's Jews gathered therein, and converted. Then the Messiah
will return, Armageddon will come and Earth will be consumed by fire and brimstone.

Only born-again Christians will survive and be teleported up to heaven. The rest of us will roast.

TOO LIBERAL

Evangelicals were very unhappy with the choice of McCain, an East Coast Republican they
viewed as theologically untrustworthy, and far too liberal when it came to social issues such as
abortion and same-sex marriage.

Without a heavy turnout by evangelical voters, McCain would not have a chance of winning.
That's why his original favourite for VP, the smarmy Joe Lieberman from Connecticut, was
dumped in favour of kill-a-polar-bear for Jesus Mrs. Palin.

The brainy Republican political analyst Kevin Phillips, who forged Ronald Reagan's first
electoral victory, makes a very important point in his must-read book, American Theocracy.

We've all heard of hockey or soccer moms, but Phillips identified an even more important voting
group backing the Bush administration: "National security moms."

These middle class mothers in the outer suburbs and rural areas were petrified by the Bush
administration's campaign over terrorism and scared into believing their little Johnny's in
remotest Alabama and Kansas were about to become targets of al-Qaida.

So they voted in droves for Bush and Cheney, who promised to wage war on "evil."

McCain vows to continue this crusade that appeals to fear and ignorance, now led into battle by
the new wilderness saint, Sarah Palin, M-16 in one hand, Bible in the other.

© 2008 The Toronto Sun

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ELECTION 2008
Talk To Action / By Bruce Wilson

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Weird Theology in Wasilla: A Look Inside Sarah Palin's
Pentecostal Church
Exposing the unusual, highly politicized religious beliefs held at the Wasilla Assembly
of God.

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On June 8, 2008 Palin was publicly blessed, with the "laying on of hands" before six thousand Wasilla
area church members, by Head Wasilla Assembly of God Pastor Ed Kalnins and on the same day both
Kalnins and Palin described, at a "Masters Commission" ceremony at the Wasilla Assembly of God
church, how she had been blessed prior to winning the Alaska governorship by an African cleric known
for driving the "spirit of witchcraft" out of a town in Kenya, after which town supposedly crime rates
dropped "almost to zero."


Sarah Palin's churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the
Assemblies of God in 1949. This is the same 'Spiritual Warfare' movement that was featured in the award
winning movie, "Jesus Camp," which showed young children being trained to do battle for the Lord. At
least three of four of Palin's churches are involved with major organizations and leaders of this
movement, which is referred to as The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit or the New Apostolic Reformation.
The movement is training a young "Joel's Army" to take dominion over the United States and the world.
Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God in
Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002: over two and 1/2
decades. Sarah Palin's extensive pattern of association with the Wasilla Assembly of God has continued
nearly up to the day she was picked by Senator John McCain as a vice-presidential running mate.


Palin's dedication to the Wasilla church is indicated by a Saturday, September 7, 2008, McClatchy news
service story detailing possibly improper use of state travel funds by Palin for a trip she made to Wasilla,
Alaska to attend, on June 8, 2008, both a Wasilla Assembly of God "Masters Commission" graduation
ceremony and also a multi-church Wasilla area event known as "One Lord Sunday."


At the latter event, Palin and Alaska LT Governor Scott Parnell were publicly blessed, onstage before an
estimated crowd of 6,000, through the "laying on of hands" by Wasilla Assembly of God's Head Pastor Ed
Kalnins whose sermons espouse such theological concepts as the possession of geographic territories by
demonic spirits and the inter-generational transmission of family "curses". Palin has also been blessed, or
"anointed", by an African cleric, prominent in the Third Wave movement, who has repeatedly visited the
Wasilla Assembly of God and claims to have effected positive, dramatic social change in a Kenyan town
by driving out a "spirit of witchcraft."


The Wasilla Assembly of God church is deeply involved with both Third Wave activities and theology.
Their Master's Commission program is part of an three year post-high school international training
program with studies in prophecy, intercessory prayer, Biblical exegesis, authority and leadership.


Watch Bruce Wilson's video documentary detailing the extreme Religious Right connections to the
Wasilla Assembly of God church, "Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5K_1Eit0pxM


The pastor, Ed Kalnins, and Masters Commission students have traveled to South Carolina to participate
in a "prophetic conference" at Morningstar Ministries, one of the major ministries of the Third Wave
movement. Becky Fischer was a pastor at Morningstar prior to being featured in the movie "Jesus Camp."
The head of prophecy at Morningstar, Steve Thompson, is currently scheduled to do a prophecy seminar
at the Wasilla Assembly of God. Other major leaders in the movement have also traveled to Wasilla to
visit and speak at the church.


The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by
William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of
supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the
world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church
restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young
generation will form "Joel's Army" to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.


While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs for
decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the
Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000.


The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of 'strategic level spiritual warfare' to
expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive charismatic
manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, 'slain in the spirit,' and congregations laughing, jerking,
and shrieking uncontrollably.


In early 2008 an outbreak of those phenomena commenced at the palatial former ministry estate of Jim
and Tammy Faye Bakker, recently bought up and restored by prominent Third Wave author and leader
Rick Joyner's Morningstar Ministries. The (spiritual) "breakout" lasted for many weeks and was publicized
in an extensive collection of video footage available on YouTube. Healing services in the Third Wave
movement claim to heal the sick and injured through methods that in some cases can appear bizarre -
including, as in recent cases involving Todd Bentley, the patient being head butted or kicked by the
anointed healer. Recipients of such "spiritual" or miraculous healing make a wide range of astonishing
claims - to have been cured of life-threatening illnesses, had joints repaired or replaced, been given gold
teeth or gold fillings, regrown stunted limbs and even had deformed skeletal structures straightened and
reshaped. Worldwide mission efforts of the movement are built around the idea of combating witches,
warlocks, and generational curses, which prevent churches from being able to take root.


Mike Rose, senior pastor of Juneau Christian Center has a long relationship with Rodney Howard-
Browne, credited with being the instigator of the outbreak of 'Holy Laughter' around the world, including
the Toronto Airport Revival. Thomas Muthee visited Wasilla Assembly of God and gave 10 consecutive
sermons at the church, from October 11-16 2005. As both Palin and Wasilla AoG Head Pastor Ed Kalnins
have attested, Thomas Muthee 'prayed over' Sarah Palin and entreated God to "make a way" prior to
Palin's successful bid for the Alaska governorship. Muthee made a return visit to the Wasilla Assembly of
God in late 2008. Thomas Muthee's Word of Faith Church is featured in the "Transformations" video
which details an account on how Muthee drove "the spirit of witchcraft" out of Kiambu, Kenya, liberating
the town from its territorial demonic possession and enabling a miraculous societal transformation. The
"Transformations" video set is used as an argument for social improvement through spiritual instead of
human means, and as the best method for fighting corruption, crime, drugs and even environmental
degradation.


In the video, producer George Otis declares that after Thomas Muthee and his followers banished the
"spirit of witchcraft" from the town, the crime rate in Kiambu dropped almost to zero, along with the rate of
alcoholism, and according to Otis most of the residents of the town joined churches. The
"Transformations" video has helped spark a network of 'Transformation' ministries and mission
organizations and 'transformation' has become a buzz word for change based on supernatural instead of
human efforts.


The Third Wave, also known as the New Apostolic Reformation, is a network of Apostles, many of them
grouped around C. Peter Wagner, founder of the World Prayer Center. This center, which was built in
coordination with Ted Haggard and his New Life Church in Colorado Springs, was featured in an article
by Jeff Sharlet in Harpers, May 2005, "Soldiers of Christ." Sharlet was one of the first to write in the
secular press about the World Prayer Center which is often referred to by those familiar with the Third
Wave as the 'Pentagon for Spiritual Warfare.' It features computer systems that store the data of
communities around the world, mapping out unsaved peoples' groups and spiritual mapping information
for spiritual warfare. Wagner has his own group of about 500 Apostles in his council and each of these
Apostles has ministries under their authority, sometimes hundreds or thousands. Recently various
networks of Apostles came together to form the Revival Alliance. Leaders of the Revival Alliance
including Rick Joyner of Morningstar anointed Todd Bentley whose Lakeland Healing Revival has
recently been a controversial topic in the Evangelical world.


Wagner's top leaders often conduct spiritual warfare campaigns against the demons that block the
acceptance of their brand of Christian belief, such as 'Operation Ice Castle' in the Himalayas in 1997.
Several of their top prophets and generals of intercession spent weeks in intensive prayer to "confront the
Queen of Heaven." This queen is considered by them to be one of the most powerful demons over the
earth and is the Great Harlot of Mystery Babylon in Revelation. (The "Great Harlot [or 'whore'] of Mystery
Babylon" theme also figures prominently in the sermons of Texas megachurch pastor and Christians
United For Israel founder John Hagee, former endorser of John McCain's 2008 presidential bid.) Wagner
and his group also claim that the Queen of Heaven is Diana, the pagan god of the biblical book
Ephesians and the god of Mary veneration in the Roman Catholic Church. Following the 'Operation Ice
Castle' prayer excursion which included planting a flag for Jesus on Mt. Everest, one of the lead prayer
intercessors from the excursion, Ana Mendez, reported that there had been dramatic results including,
"millions have come to faith in Asia... and other things happened which I believe are also connected...an
earthquake had destroyed the basilica of Assisi, where the Pope had called a meeting of all world
religions; a hurricane destroyed the infamous temple 'Baal-Christ' in Acapulco, Mexico; the Princes Diana
died... and Mother Theresa died in India, one of the most famous advocates of Mary as Co-Redeemer."


Church of the Rock, led by Senior Pastor David Pepper, has taken their youth to participate in 'The Call,
Nashville.' This event is held at various locations around the country under the leadership of Lou Engle,
also featured in the movie "Jesus Camp." At these events youth are worked into a frenzy of anger and
consternation at supposed national moral corruption. Engle, who shuffles while he preaches in imitation of
Jewish prayer, is featured toward the end of the "Jesus Camp" video documentary.


The Third Wave movement is cross-denomination and is not synonymous with any specific denomination,
nor is it synonymous with Evangelical or Fundamentalist. Although the movement emerged from
Pentecostalism, it draws its support from a variety of denominations and religious streams. They believe
they are forming a post-denominational church to take the world for the end times. To date, all of the
writing and objections to this movement have emerged from other Evangelicals and
Fundamentalists who believe the movement to be unbiblical. Also, it is other conservative
churches that refuse to embrace the 'outpouring of the Spirit' that are targets of much of the anger
of the movement.


You can find more information on the Third Wave movement and additional links to the activities of Palin's
churches on www.Talk2action.org in the following articles:


Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave, Part One
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/0244/84583


Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave, Part Two with embedded video:
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/03830/11602


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_1Eit0pxM


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                                  The Broken Bus
                                      Wayne Harmon
Once upon a time, there was a King who extended an open invitation to all his subjects
to visit him at any time. Some people traveled alone to see the King, but most preferred
to travel in groups of two or three. The reason for traveling with others was to share with
each other what the King meant to them and had done for them. They also shared in
their provisions so that none lacked for anything on the journey. The King welcomed all
who came to see him, regardless of how they got there.

One day a group of people who traveled together decided the trip would be more
comfortable if they bought a bus. This was not a problem for the King himself. He wasn't
concerned with how people made the trip. His only concern was that they took the time
to visit him.

So the people bought a bus. At first they took turns driving the bus. Some of them were
competent mechanics; others helped keep it clean, and all shared in the expenses. On
the trips to see the King they also took turns telling about the wonderful things the King
had done for them and what he meant in their lives. They sang songs praising him.
They also continued to share their resources with each other so that no one had any
unmet material needs.

One day someone said that it would be a good idea if they hired a permanent driver for
the bus. All they would have to do is get on the bus and let the driver do the work of
getting them to the King. This seemed like a good idea, so they all pitched in to pay the
driver. They gave the driver the money to keep the bus fueled and in good running
condition. For a while, all went smoothly. The driver did a good job taking them to visit
the King, and they continued to share in both their experiences and resources.

There were other buses on the road to the King's palace, too. Some were bigger and
shinier than theirs. Others were smaller and had faded paint. The people on the bus
began to feel superior when they saw a smaller bus and inferior when they saw one of
the larger ones. They began to blame the driver for not making their bus better. They
fired him and hired a driver who had gone to a special school just for bus drivers.

The new driver demanded a new bus. At great expense, the people bought it for him,
little realizing that the new bus could be driven only by someone with a special license
given to graduates of the special bus driving school.

They were excited and proud of their new bus. The smaller buses looked even more
inferior to them now. They told all their non-bus riding friends about their new bus, and
invited them to ride with them on their next trip to visit the King. Visitors were very
impressed with the plush seats, the climate control, the smooth power of the engine and
the comfort of the ride as the bus sailed down the highway.

Little by little, the people stopped sharing their material resources with each other,
because having a bus and a driver were expensive. They also stopped talking to each
other, because the bus had a state of the art sound system, and the driver began
lecturing them on various topics during the trip.

At first he told them what he had learned about the King in bus driving school. He spoke
about what his professors had taught him when he was working on his Masters of
Drivinity degree. Then he spent a lot of time talking about the dissertation he wrote for
his Doctor of Drivinity. He was currently working on a Ph.D. in Drivology, so he had
plenty of new material to talk about during the trips. No one seemed to notice that he
never talked about the King personally, but rather spoke about the opinions and
experiences of others.

Whenever they visited the King, the driver stayed with the bus. While the riders were
with the King, he met with other drivers in the parking lot. They compared buses,
numbers of passengers, how long it took them to make the trip, fuel mileage, operating
costs, etc. They began sharing tips with each other on how to deal with passengers who
defied a driver's authority. The buses had become the most important things in the
drivers' lives.

Eventually, instead of entering the palace to visit the King, many of the people walked
around the parking lot with the driver comparing other buses to theirs. Some of the
younger people decided that they wanted to go to bus driver school and one day have
buses of their own. Each was determined to have the biggest, shiniest, best bus
possible.

The few who still took time to visit the King became concerned that the bus had
replaced the King in the people's affections. When they dared to voice these concerns,
they were labeled rebellious and accused of refusing to submit to the driver's authority.
Even though they had contributed to the purchase of the bus, its maintenance and the
driver's salary, they were forced to leave the bus.

The driver convinced the people that their bus needed to be the biggest and finest bus it
could possibly be. After all, he argued, were they not subjects of the King? Did not the
King deserve to be represented with Excellence? So they bought an even bigger and
more beautiful bus. It was truly breathtaking in its magnificence. Surely all who saw this
bus would know that those who rode within were very special subjects of the King!

The driver called for a special dedication ceremony for the bus. The people gathered
and congratulated each other, and especially the driver, on the splendor of the new bus.
They all boarded the bus as the driver slipped behind the wheel, settling himself in the
seat that had been especially built just for him.
He gave a long speech congratulating the people on their hard work and sacrificial
giving that made such a wonderful bus possible. He spoke of how this new bus would
be a beacon of hope for generations to come. The people cheered and applauded; they
were certain that they had the best driver and the best bus in the whole kingdom. Surely
the King must be pleased that they had honored him with such a bus!

Then the driver began to give a series of lectures from his studies in bus driving school.
He gave them all notebooks with outlines. He gave them daily reading assignments
from the latest book on buses. He made them feel that they were an active vital part of
the bus. The people thought that certainly they must have the most gifted and eloquent
driver of them all.

But no one noticed that the bus hadn't gone anywhere. This went on for many years. In
all that time the bus never moved. It just sat there, filled from time to time with people
who were excited about nothing. The air slowly leaked from tires. The battery died. The
engine rusted. The only things that were kept in good working order were the bus's
appearance and the generators that ran the climate control and sound systems. The
bus still looked beautiful, but it was no longer a bus. It was just a barn.

Occasionally an individual or two would walk to visit the King, or maybe even ride on
another bus that still made the trip to the palace. These individuals would sometimes try
to talk to their friends on the bus about the King, but they did so fearfully, lest they, too,
be labeled rebels and troublemakers, and be kicked off the bus into which they had put
so much of their lives.

The bus no longer took anyone to visit the King. It was broken, and so was the King's
heart.




                    The Fall of Babylonian Religion
Our Father is raising up a Beast kingdom as a demolition crew to tear down or burn
down all the wood, hay and stubble built on the foundation of Christ. You can be sure
that everything built on the shifting sands of this world will go too, for everything that can
be shaken will be. In a vision, I was standing on a mountain and looking down the
mountain-side. I saw a construction crew coming up the mountain-side putting up the
big metal power poles for high voltage power lines. Then I looked down beside me on
the ground and noticed a very old, emaciated cow lying there. It looked as though it was
about to die. Next to it was a very large baby boy that I knew had been born from that
cow. Next, I saw a front-end loader come and scoop up the cow and carry it away. I
picked up the baby and walked over and got on an escalator. As we were going up, I
noticed a woman next to me with a normal-sized baby. Looking at my baby, she said,
"That looks like a real baby boy." Watching the front-end loader carry away the cow, I
said, "Yeah, I wonder how that's possible." Then the scene changed, and I was walking
into a ministers' conference. All the famous religious leaders of the U.S. were there. A
famous minister who everyone knows and who I felt represented a generation of
ministers, walked over and handed me some papers. Then the Lord said to me, "This is
his propaganda about what he has accomplished." (If we have accomplished anything,
it is by God's power, will, and grace for "a man can receive nothing except it come from
heaven.") God gave me the interpretation in my spirit. The power lines are the power of
God coming to faithful Christians in the Kingdom (mountain). The power will not come
until the old cow, the Babylonish religious systems of men, are moved out of the way
just as new wine can not be put in old wineskins. I was told that the old cow was the
golden calf, now come to full age and passing away. In Ex.32:4 speaking of the golden
calf, they said in Hebrew, "This is thy God." God here in the literal is Elohim just as it is
in verse 11, "And Moses besought the Lord his God." Aaron proclaimed a feast to the
Lord (verse 5). Lord here in the literal is YHWH, the name of our God. In other words,
they were calling the golden calf Elohim and YHWH. They were giving God's name to a
false god. If you have been sold on a Jesus that looks different from the Jesus of the
Bible, guess what, you are worshiping the golden calf, the old cow. The old cow is
"another Jesus" as Paul called it in 2 Cor.11:4. He was the Egyptian Baal; the false
virgin birthed son of God from Babel. You will take on the image of the Jesus you follow
(2 Cor.3:18); hence, the old cow represents those who have taken on the image of a
false Jesus. As this old cow is being moved out of the Kingdom the greater works will be
manifest through the true disciples of Christ.

The greatest army the world has ever known is about to come against what is thought to
be the Kingdom of God. They are the construction crew that will move the Babylonish
cow out of the way. A remnant baby will come out of this cow and come to maturity
(Zion [Jer.50:3-12]). The escalator represents the rest, the ceasing from our own works
(Heb.4:10,11) through faith in the promises (Heb.4:1-3). You do not walk upon an
escalator; you just rest. God's land of rest is standing on the promises as God told
Joshua,"Every place that the sole of you foot shall tread upon, to you have I given
it"(Joshua 1:3). Jesus taught us that everything we pray for we are to believe we have
received it and we shall have it (Mk.11:24). If you believe that you have received, you
will cease from your struggles and anxiety to bring it to pass (1 John 5:14,15)."For we
who have believed do enter into that rest" in ceasing from our works, because the
works are already accomplished by God (Heb.4:3). For instance, if we ask God to
deliver us from some sin or sickness (1 Peter 2:24) or some other curse (Gal.3:13), we
must believe we have received since these promises are all past tense. (Notice: "bare
our sins," "were healed," "redeemed us from the curse") Ephesians 2:8 in the original
Greek says, "For by grace have ye been saved through faith." If you have been saved,
then you are saved. The word savedhere is the Greek word sozo and is translated
"made thee whole" in Lk.8:48 and some other places. Obviously, being healed is part of
being saved. It is also saved in circumstances in Mt.8:25, and in deliverance in Lk.8:36.
Saved covers deliverance from sin and its curses; and you have been saved at the
cross. Jesus said, "It is finished," and "I have overcome the world." By this rest, the
baby will come nearer and nearer to God (the escalator) and be protected in the days to
come (Ps.91, Ps.125). The cow does not even believe in the protection and blessing of
the secret place of the Most High (Ps.91). The cow eats grass, which Peter said was
flesh (1 Pet.1:24), and represents a fleshly understanding of the word. The cow only
feeds feeds milk , which we are told is being "without experience of the word of
righteousness" (Heb.5:13,14) and represents being without spiritual senses. God
showed me concerning the ministers' conference that they were the bulls of Basham
who had been sowing their seed in the cow. Psalms 22:12,13 is a prophecy of the
religious leadership (bulls) in Jesus' day (verse 1,16,18) who opposed his leadership.
The disciples were the new church leadership. The true disciples are going to be given
a new leadership like those who followed Jesus out of Babylonish Judaism (Isa.1:26).

God gave the Old Covenant but at the time of Jesus they had corrupted it into a respect
for men and traditions instead of the word. Christianity has repeated this history. Jesus
came to make disciples (Greek: methetes - learners and followers) of the Word and lead
them out. True disciples will hear no other voice but his (John 10:3-5; 8:31,32). You
might say, "I would like to bring healing to this old corrupt religious cow." Have you read
Jeremiah 51:9? It says, "We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake
her, and let us go everyone into his own country; for her judgment reacheth unto
heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies." Forsake her, brothers and sisters, and dwell
in the promised land (live on his promises). Receive a kingdom that cannot be shaken
(Heb.12:28). Come out from among them and be ye separate (2 Cor.6:14-18 / Rev.18:4
/ Jer.51:6,45 / Jer.50:8).




                        The Ignorance of Apostasy
                                  Kaile Hamilton - 5-22-07
                                    (David's notes in red)
          Listen to the audio version, Apostasy, Man-child and the Gates of Hell.
I was visiting the old church I went to when I lived in El Paso, Texas. The church
building was a lot larger than I remember. On this day, the church was having a large
conference of some kind and all the age groups were broken up. I decided that morning
I wanted to help with the children’s activities and everything that had to do with the
children.
After I began helping with the children, I noticed that there was a group in the auditorium
that was kind of in their own section, not surrounded by any other group of children. I
thought that was a little strange. I asked a few of the other volunteers/friends and they
very quietly, in almost a whisper, told me “that those children had HIV and no one really
knows about them other than the church staff and those who volunteer with the children;
most of the other children don’t even know. Those who have found out have left the
church.” The children here represent the people in the church who are spiritually
immature. {1 Cor.14:20} Brethren, be not children in mind: yet in malice be ye
babes, but in mind be men (Greek: of full age). In the natural HIV is Human
Immunodeficiency Virus, which weakens the body’s immune system until it can no
longer fight off its enemies. This leads to AIDS, which is Acquired Immune Deficiency
Syndrome, and death shortly thereafter. One who is spiritually immature cannot fight off
their enemies and is ultimately conquered and spiritually dies even though they still
occupy a pew. Those who find out that their church is in this state generally leave.
When she told me this I was alarmed that no one truly cared to help these children and
had been keeping this very serious matter a secret to most of the congregation.
Nonetheless, I continued working with the children. Most of the spiritually immature do
not know that there is spiritual HIV in their own congregations.
At the end of the conference, all of the families left and then all of the church staff and
volunteers began to leave. When I started walking out, I saw my father and a few of my
friends. I ran up to them and asked, “Did you know that there is a large group of children
who have HIV in this church?”
They all agreed that they in fact knew that there were children with that ailment and
didn’t seem to care. (This state is so common that it is not looked on as a great danger.)
Then I asked them, “How did the children get HIV? Why haven’t you guys left the
church like the others?” In the natural, children generally get HIV from their mother at
birth and the mother gets it from the father. Spiritually, the father is the one who sows
the diseased seed which destroys the immune system of the church who is the mother
of the individual members. The seed that is sown in most of the church makes perpetual
children out of its members, who have no real defense against the principalities and
powers who administer the curse. "Come out from among them and be ye separate."
My dad told me, “I’m not really sure how the children got HIV but I do know the church
leaders know. Maybe you should ask them. (They know how the children got in this
state because they sowed the seed.) I haven’t left the church because this is my church
and I’m not leaving just because there is a disease here.” Those who will not leave
when they see this state in the church don't because they are in gross idolatry with their
dead religion.
I couldn’t understand how and why the church was so secretive about this issue that
they had in their church. I thought all of the people who had stayed, including my father
and friends, were extremely ignorant. I knew that I would not stand for a church that
covered up something. I left the parking lot of that church very disturbed at how much it
had changed and knew I was never going back. Amen!
As soon as I woke up the Lord revealed to me what this dream meant:
He was showing me how prevalent the apostate church is in America. The children with
HIV represent a disease in the church that the church members and leaders knowingly
ignore. Instead of coming out of the church many stay knowing it is not what the Lord
desires for them. Shouldn’t those children be healed of their ailment since by His stripes
they were healed?
I believe this is a warning to those who the Lord has revealed the apostate church to but
have ignored His revelation and continued to walk in their ignorance.
Since my earthly father was in this group of people, I knew the Lord was confirming to
me that He was in fact talking about the ignorant children who have seen the apostasy
but didn’t turn back to Him. For many years, my father has ignored many of the
revelations that the Lord has given me that I have shared with him and has decided to
ignore them.
The Lord’s children need to turn back to Him if they have seen the apostasy and have
ignored it. If He has not yet revealed the apostasy to them, let this be a testament to His
love for them to show them what is going on in our churches and come back to Him.
{Hos.4:6} My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast
rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me:
seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I also will forget thy children. {7}
As they were multiplied, so they sinned against me: I will change their glory into
shame. {8} They feed on the sin of my people, and set their heart on their iniquity.
{9} And it shall be, like people, like priest; and I will punish them for their ways,
and will requite them their doings. {10} And they shall eat, and not have enough;
they shall play the harlot, and shall not increase; because they have left off taking
heed to Jehovah. {11} Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the
understanding. {12} My people ask counsel at their stock, and their staff declareth
unto them; for the spirit of whoredom hath caused them to err, and they have
played the harlot, [departing] from under their God.




                        The Safest Place on Earth
                                     By Jim Butner

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vHV0eJLBCsw




                                The Sea of Mud
                                   Pamela Orr - 2/25/08
                                   (David's note in red)
I had a new dream on 2/15/08. God uses ‘wordplay’ with me a lot since He knows I like
words. Well, it’s ‘Mexico’ again, which represents ‘mixture’ and, unfortunately, where so
much of the church world is.
At some distance, I saw Mexico and Latin America. Costa Rica (‘Rich Coast’) separated
and there was a new split, too. Then, I was closer in and I could see the landscape. It
was a sea of mud: boulders, uprooted trees and people who were struggling to get free.
(Mud is a mixture of water, which represents the Word, and dirt, which comes from the
earth. This represents the teaching of religion, which ends in death.)
Then I ‘zoomed in on’ two men in particular. One of them noticed a long line of what
seemed to be wounded people connected together with ropes, supposedly being helped
out of the morass. {2 Pet.2:18} For, uttering great swelling [words] of vanity, they
entice in the lusts of the flesh, by lasciviousness, those who are just escaping
from them that live in error; {19} promising them liberty, while they themselves
are bondservants of corruption; for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is
he also brought into bondage.
The man on the left (my left as I was looking at them) joined the line, but the other man
(one on the right side) noticed something the first one didn’t see. Something in or under
the mud was killing the wounded people! (I couldn't see under the mud, but somehow I
knew that they were being eviscerated or disemboweled.) “Don’t get in that line,”
shouted the man to the other one. But, it was too late. He saw the other guy, now
hooked up in the line, react violently and pitch forward and there was a death grimace
on his face. He was dead in the line, like all the other ones, but there were now already
two or three behind him that joined the line. The other man, who didn’t get hooked into
the line, turned away and tried to run in the other direction. But, the last thing I saw as
the dream faded was that you couldn’t run very fast or far in a sea of mud.
When I woke up, The Lord reminded me of the verse: “There is a way that seems
right to a man but the end thereof are the ways of death.”




             U.N. Considers Forming World Religion
                                           4/22/08

Moscow, April 22, Interfax - Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov noted to the
important role of world religions in formation of moral component in international politics.

"It's necessary to base international relations on morality and consider the joint moral
denominator, which have always existed in major world religions," Lavrov wrote in his
article published by Profil magazine.

According to him, the moral component is "crucial" for "the conception of stable
development". Today it's impossible "to address various problems in managing global
processes" without such categories as self-restriction and solidarity, the Foreign
Minister believes.

According to Lavrov, the key role in it belongs to inter-civilization dialogue "including its
interreligious component."

"That's why we suggested setting up the Consultative Council of Religions under the UN
auspices and support all processes, which can provide a platform for such talks both in
frameworks the "Alliance of Civilizations" and the European Council," the minister
stressed.

Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow and All Russia and UN general secretary Ban Ki-moon
discussed the prospects of establishing the Council of World Religions under the UN at
their recent meeting.

				
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