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12/31/2006 10:43:31pm
             catherine
             cat7777@hotmail.co.uk
             SE uk
             can i do anything to help? ALF puts heart back into human kind, its good to read about people who care so much about
             animals.

               ALF response: Thanks for offering. There are a lot of suggestions on our website for "An Army of 1"



12/31/2006 10:34:29pm
             catherine

               southeast uk
               I have been looking at this site for some time. I watched Britches release. It made me cry and i felt sick to my stomach that
               human beings can carry out such horrific things. Thank heavens for the ALF. I think what you do is amazing!



12/31/2006 7:07:37pm
              Helena
              precious@amtelecom.net
              Ontario, Canada
              I just read the story on Britches. I was taken aback, to say the least....I mean, what do you say about that? I was disgusted,
              pained, broken.......it sickened me to the deepest part of my soul.



12/31/2006 4:35:17pm
              CC

               rome
               I wish us a more modern year. the men will change, soon or later...



12/31/2006 3:28:45pm
              MARI PENNER
              MARIPENN7@AOL.COM
              FLORIDA
              EVERY ANIMAL IS A LOVING POTENTIAL FRIEND!!!!



12/31/2006 9:15:13am
              Courtney

               midlands
               Just out of interest what are your veiws on injecting anglers with a syringe, and then going on to beat up the woman on the
               fishery also.
              Daisy accuses carpers of being woman beaters, but it is fact that sabs actually do!!!

              ALF response: Do either of you know the definition of a "straw man" in logic?



12/31/2006 9:11:34am
              An angler

              Midlands
              I cannot see a change in angling within the future, the only stop to it i can think of would be if the world becomes so polluted,
              that the waters cannot sustain aquatic life.

              Angling is a hobbie for about 6 million people, that's a tenth of the UK population. Even the MP Martin Salter is a regular
              angler.

              Just thought i'd share these

              'Coarse anglers spend £169.7m, carp anglers £110.69m, game anglers £138.29m and sea anglers £97.12m.

              £500 million 17.5 % VAT £87,500,000 per annum'

              I can't see it being banned any time soon!

              Fair play with you being a vegan, just out of interest what clothes do you wear.

              I doubt it will be uk brands such as Hackett, check the labels and i bet it will of come from the middle-east. Surely the human
              beings and children in sweatshops, have enough sentience for a stand to be made???

              ALF response: I haven't bought any new clothes since I turned vegan. But the logic of animal rights would not be any less
              solid if I were a butcher. AR is about principles, not people. Discrediting a thousand Christians doesn't change the principles
              of Christianity. One Christian coveting his neighbors possessions doesn't mean he is no longer a Christian. Intelligent people
              attack ideas, not other people. What I am, or am not, is simply not relevant.



12/31/2006 4:47:38am
              guess
              fake@fake.com
              anywhere i want to be
              you guys are all insane. animal cruelty is bad, but forming some cult to free "tortured" animals is worse. half of what you are
              trying to ban is research for vaccines and other medicine that may not only benifit humans, but also animals. Without animal
              research, we would most likely have died off from small pox, yellow fever, or chicken pox a long time ago.


              ALF response: You have a lot of misinformation. Please read any of the hundreds of articles on our web site by physicians
              who say you are wrong, and who have had their work published.


12/31/2006 1:16:33am
              Samina
               red_light_special@suomi24.fi
               Finland
               Thank you for doing this for the animals! I felt so good as I watched your pictures of saved animals. Those animals must felt
               that love that those people felt for them as they saved 'em! Keep up the good work!



12/31/2006 0:13:25am
              john
              zammmo@hotmail.co.uk
              linc,s
              the problem with angling is it has its ignorant partisipants,we do our best to educate these people,perhaps we need to undergo
              a test before fishing like they do in germany.
              You have no chance no chance of banning fishing in this country.
              Your efforts would be better utilised if you concentrated on the many endangered species,like the elephants that are gettin
              poached.I wouldnt advise blowing whistles and rattling bushes,you will either end up trampled or a bullet in the head.

               I am a very typical carp angler,I even have a criminal conviction.I was out one very hot day and spotted a distressed dog that
               had been left in a car I broke a window to release the dog and got arrested for criminal damage.



y 12/30/2006 11:17:07pm
              chris the carper
              Rugboyd@hotmail.com
              watford uk
              daisy said; BTW Ive noticed that all the UK carp fisherman talk a good talk, with all their threats, but fail to put an e-mail
              address down so a proper conversation about their sick, cruel sport and the sadistic fun they have doing it can be properly
              discussed. what big brave men they must be. How manly they must feel dragging their fish out of the water, suppose they go
              home and beat the wife and dog later when they get home too..... what sad fools they are

               well, daisy, i think u should do a bit more research into carp fishing b4 u slate them..who are u to say we are sad fools
               eh?...recent studies have almost proven that carp, fish dont feel pain in thier lips due to the crap they take off the bottom
               anyway. i have left my email and u havent hmm...what a brave girly u r...and beating the wife? i am 16 years old and care for
               my fish and my mum if u like...there is a difference in beating the dog and catching and caring for a carp...



y 12/30/2006 11:09:11pm
              chris
              Rugboyd@hotmail.com
              watford-uk
              ok, i totally agree with what u do and y u do it....but i am a carp fisherman and if u came 2 my lake trying to stop me fishing i
              would not be pleased as i am so not cruel to animals, mainly the carp i catch. i think turning up with baliclarvers (sp?)
              beating up fishermen and trashing places is a low thing to do so i am asking you to leave fishing alone, and i would be
              prepared to take it further if i got any abuse about my views

               thanks chris



y 12/30/2006 9:47:40pm
               Holly Healy
               hollyhealyphoto@AOL.com
               wellington, florida
               Thanks to people like you, animals are slowly getting the help they need. I pray to God every day that the chinese fur farmers
               will get skinned alive! But since we keep buying fur, these poor animals keep getting tortured. It's so incredibly SAD.




y 12/30/2006 8:35:57pm
              Nick
              connor_shelley@yahoo.co.uk
              Suffolk
              Firstly I disagree with any Violent or Confrontational Activities.

               I agree that Animals should not be used for Vivisection purposes and that they should not be hunted to Extinction. What is
               ALF doing to prevent the Extinction of the Bengal Tiger, the LeatherBack Turtle and many other creatures?

               ALF response: The philosophy of animal rights activists does not consider a life more precious because it is rare. The factors
               that determine a being's rights are its sentience and ability to experience a life.

               Nick: Fishing has long been regarded as Important for Conservation Issues. Anglers are the First to report MANY Pollution
               Issues.
               It has also been Proven SCIENTIFICALLY that Fish DO NOT Feel pain as they do not have the Nerve Endings that transmit
               the Signals to the Brain.

               ALF response: You will find a number of scientific articles here that show that fish DO feel pain: Fish and pain


               Nick: Natural. As an Angler it is also Instinct that we are Hunter Gatherers, yet many human beings have lost the Hunting
               ability as Civilisation has developed. Fish Care when fishing has always been the forefront of my mind, I do not harm the fish
               after capture I return them after Photographs, which help record their Weight Gains and looks.



y 12/30/2006 8:12:17pm
              Richard Chapman
              richchappy@hotmail.com
              UK
              How on earth do you think it is right to try and ruin peoples hobbies, Where will you stop, will you ban walking as you may
              kill a bug, will you say you cant use paper as the trees are homes for animals so you are killing them,
              Get a grip and try and do somthing productive

               ALF response: Animal Rights philosophy, like all philosophies of morality, takes into consideration the rights of all parties
               when there is a conflict. "Hobbies" would not be considered sufficient reason to take the life of sentient beings. Insects are
               not considered by most ARA's to have enough sentience to warrant changing life patterns to avoid accidental killing. There
               are detailed discussions on these topics on this web site, and elsewhere.



y 12/30/2006 5:46:41pm
              Toni
              tagaeri@msn.com
              Catalonia
              Hi, I write to support violent actions to stop violent attacks against animals. Of course the work of the lawyers is necessary,
              but everybody knows that the law can be bought for lobbies, etc... To fight without negotiate is a suicide, but to negotiate
              without fighting is to be debilitated. This direct actions, are just self defense for the animals against the real violence of the
              specicist. Keep on fighting.



y 12/30/2006 2:11:22pm
              graham

              sussex
              Daisy i believe the alf intentions are noble but i cannot support letter bombings , arson ,kidnapping ,threatening.As for your
              hysterical feminist rantings about anglers wife beating ..... there are plenty of female anglers .



2/29/2006 6:56:20pm
             Mike Berry
             mike.berry20@ntlworld.com
             Wales, U.K.
             Whilst I applaud the good work the ALF does for animals hunted for sport and suffering in labs. The worst excesses of
             animal abuse go on unseen, on factory farms. I suppose therefore that we are all vegans, yes?

              ALF response: Vegan for more than 20 years.



2/29/2006 6:37:27pm
             Kees

              Netherlands
              When will you ever stop foxhunting in the UK? It's still going on, but you promissed us it was going to stop last year.
              When will you stop anglers from fishing on open water? And when will you stop people from riding on horses. This is also a
              cruel sport which should be forbidden. All these animals should be let free in the wild where they belong. Why don't I hear
              you talk about that?

              ALF response: We're sorry to disappoint you, and at the same time we're honored that you think a small band of activists can
              change the world that fast. We can only keep trying. If anyone makes a promise, try to get help for them.



2/29/2006 6:24:08pm
             MARGARET

              NEW HYDE PARK, NY
              I AM ALL FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS BUT PLEASE TRY TO DISCOURAGE ALF ADVOCATES FROM GRAFFITING
              THEIR MESSAGE ON FENCES AND WALLS. I HAVE CLEANED IT OFF SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY AND MY
              WHOLE AREA IS FILLED WITH ALF GRAFFITI!
              ALF response: I agree with you. Those punks should spend their time and money helping animals. I would label them
              juvenille delinquents, not animal rights advocates.



2/29/2006 4:55:27pm
             Daisy

              UK
              BTW Ive noticed that all the UK carp fisherman talk a good talk, with all their threats, but fail to put an e-mail address down
              so a proper conversation about their sick, cruel sport and the sadistic fun they have doing it can be properly discussed. what
              big brave men they must be. How manly they must feel dragging their fish out of the water, suppose they go home and beat
              the wife and dog later when they get home too..... what sad fools they are



2/29/2006 4:44:58pm
             Daisy

              UK
              I am ashamed of some of my fellow countrymens comments on here. Its always the same...people just don't seem to care as
              long as they are enjoying it! Fishing, hunting and all other CRUEL sports should be banned OUTRIGHT! How the hell can
              they say "it doesn't hurt"? Ive never heard such rubbish, how could they possibly know that! The more I hear of stupid,
              ignorant humans the more I dislike them. Never stop what u are doing ALF,it is so so important. U are my heros




2/29/2006 6:56:06am
             Rudy
             cr8equality4all@yahoo.com
             Arlington, Wa
             I love the fact that there is an underground movement like the ALF. Its great to know that not all people are so selfish and
             that there are people who care about other species. It makes me sick that people label the memebers of the ALF terrorists.
             THE MEMBERS OF THE ALF ARE THE GREATEST HEROES THIS WORLD HAS EVER SEEN.



2/29/2006 5:18:11am
             Marijo Anne Gillis WAG NY
             twinkieperkyebby@msn.com
             New York City
             A prayer in my heart for your vision, compassion, perseverance, success, each and every day. Thank God for you!



2/29/2006 3:54:15am
             Anastahja
             HGRUNSKE@NEW.RR.COM
             Oshkosh
             i want to help liberate tortured and imprisoned animals in my area. this is a pointless waiste of life and as a christian i am
             never surprised but always apalled by the cruelty of human beings.
y 12/28/2006 1:59:10pm
             graham

              sussex
              you didnt stop fox hunting they are still doing it ....... fisherman have created massive breeding programmes for restocking to
              meet demand so therefore have created more fish , anglers keep our waterways clear and report dieaseas and pollution . If
              any of you come near me or my family whilst fishing it will be you that needs liberating .



y 12/28/2006 12:34:38am
             James
              N/A
             UK
             Your information on fishing is wrong & you must be very childish to try & sabotage matches etc.

              I am a carp fisherman & look after all the fish that I catch & make sure that they swim away unharmed.

              If you saw the people off the forum that I am a member of you would see that the fish are treated with respect.

              How would you like it if someone spoilt your day by sabotaging what you like doing?

              I bet you wouldnt be happy so why do it to others?

              Try & take these points on board & stop acting like babies.

              Fishing has been around for years & will continue to be one of Britains most popular sports for a long time.

              James




day 12/27/2006 11:49:00pm
             sparky

              uk
              i think you lot are asking for trouble come down my lake and you had better book a ambulance for yourself

              ALF response: The last time I needed an ambulance was after I won a bet that I could drink a quart of vodka in five minutes.
              Ah, but I guess I don't understand what you are saying, unless I'll need an ambulance to take me away because the sight of
              you will stop my heart!



day 12/27/2006 11:20:27pm
             andy
              please dont have a go at anglers I fish for carp and make sure that I treat the fish I catch with great respect even carry
              medicines for them with me . people like yourseleves are an asset but concentrate on fox hunting etc . read fishing fourums
              any body who is seen to mishandle fish is publicly smashed to pieces and driven out where not all largered up hoodies on
              asbos . I havent slated you please give me a chance .



day 12/27/2006 10:34:25pm
             Sandra i Jarek
             sandraflor@wp.pl
             Poland
             We think that everything what you are doing is great. We wish you a persistence.
             Greetings from Poland



day 12/27/2006 9:11:20pm
             Jency

              California
              I cannot thank you enough for all you do. Your courage and respect for all living things is an inspiration. Go on with your
              work knowing that many people are with you in spirit. You are amazing!Animal rights activists everywhere aplaud you and
              wish you well. Keep safe.



day 12/27/2006 7:20:40pm
             Natasha

              Winnipeg, Canada
              You guys are so amazing for helping innocent animals. Keep up the excellent work. It's great to know that there are people
              out there that actually have a heart! :);)



day 12/27/2006 11:45:04am
             Jules
             nailujdieter@web.de
             west_GERMANY
             My respect to ALF ! Your fight goes on, if I would have the chance to support you, I would do, but ther´s no one who´s
             interested in things like this !!!
             GO ON A.L.F. !!!!



12/25/2006 11:29:35pm
            Ramin
            duh.ulost@yahoo.com
            California
            FOR ALL THE ONES OUT THERE WHO THINK THAT ANIMAL TESTING IS CRUCIAL AND A VALID METHOD
            OF FINDING CURES FOR ILLNESSES, ETC. HERE ARE A FEW METHODS THAT ARE MUCH MORE ACCURATE
            THAN VIVISECTION AND DO NOT REQUIRE THE TORTURE AND MURDER OF SENTIENT BEINGS:
(PS. MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO ALL THE HEROES OF THE ALF, WHO RISK THEIR LIVES AND FREEDOM
LIBERATING THE OPPRESSED AND TORTURED)

Examples for methods of research without animal experiments:

Microdosing – a new method of obtaining human metabolism data, which enables potential new drugs to be tested safely in
humans at an earlier stage. Microdosing relies on the ultrasensitivity of Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS), one of the
most sensitive measuring devices ever invented. Using AMS it is possible to conduct a full human metabolism study after
administration of as little as 0.1 milligram of drug substance, measuring drug concentrations in biological fluids up to 1000
times less than the levels one would observe in a classical Phase I clinical study. This should be part of 'Phase 0' pre-clinical
trials for every drug, instead of animal testing. Currently, preclinical studies take up to 18 months and cost €2.3-3.8m.
Microdosing could reduce the time to four to six months and the cost to €0.26m per new molecule. Its accuracy at predicting
human metabolism is unsurpassed. EU and US regulators have endorsed the use of microdosing to speed and improve the
safety of drug development. See www.xceleron.co.uk, www.microdosing.co.uk


DNA chips – enable the study of pharmacogenetics, which, in turn, enables the practice of personalised medicine. This is the
concept that since each person is genetically unique, medicines should be designed for individuals, rather than our current
'one drug fits all' approach. DNA chips are computer wafers with tiny wells where human genes can be exposed to a new
drug, for instance. The computer then reads which genes are turned on or off (or up or down) by the experimental drug. See,
for example, www.simugen.co.uk

Microfluidics chips – again just 2cm wide, have etched into them a series of tiny chambers, each containing a sample of
tissue from different parts of the body. The compartments are linked by microchannels through which a blood substitute
flows. The test drug is added to the blood substitute and circulates around the device; thus mimicking what goes on in the
body on a micro scale. Sensors in the chip feed back information for computer analysis. Hurel (Human relevant) are
pioneering this field: see www.hurelcorp.com


The EPISKIN - test with artificial, human skin makes it possible to assess how the skin reacts to corrosive effects and
chemicals on the skin. This examination is normally carried out on rabbits or guineapigs.
Adding carcinogenical substances to normal cells leads an unnormal growth of these cells. This is how substances that can
cause cancer can be detected in the transformation test.
Monoclonal antibodies are substances of the immune system which are used in many fields of research and diagnostic.
Instead of the extremely cruel production in the peritoneal cavity of mice, biological reactors (like the glass mouse or tecno
mouse) can be used for production.
With the PyroCheck test fever triggering substances (pyrogenes) can be tracked down in serums and infusion solutions by
using human white blood cells. So far, the test was carried out on rabbits.
The human cornea with all its layers can be copied three-dimensional in the test tube e.g. to test ointments (artificial cornea).

With nerve cell cultures you can examine the release of neuro-transmitters (carrier substances) as well as their
pharmacological effect. By this, drugs in the field of Parkinson's disease, epilepsy and pain research can be tested.
Cell cultures of arteries which occur as debris in operations can be used in the arteriosclerosis research. This way, causes and
treatment of vascular diseases can be examined.
Cultured heart muscle cells keep their contraction ability, even in a test-tube. With their help, physiological interrelations and
the effect of heart drugs can be tested.


Incubated eggs
Instead of the cruel Draize test, where the substances are dripped into rabbits' eyes to check the irritant effect of chemicals
and cosmetic products, hens' eggs can be used. With the HET-CAM-TEST, the test substance is dripped onto the membrane
of the fine blood vessels of an incubated egg and the reaction can be watched.
Lower organism
With the Ames test using Salmonella bacteria, researchers can detect genetically harmful features of chemicals.

Epidemiology – studies lifestyle factors in populations to find commonalities that might be significant. Epidemiology linked
smoking to cancer and high cholesterol to heart disease, folic acid deficiency in pregnancy to spina bifida and many more
associations. See www.ukbiobank.ac.uk

Stem cell research – offers potential promise of treatment for a wide variety of diseases. Human stem cells have already been
used successfully to treat some leukaemias, as well as improving outcomes for heart attack patients and for some patients
suffering from Parkinson's disease.

New imaging technologies – such as Magnetoencephalography (MEG), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), functional MRI
(fMRI), magnetic resonance spectroscopy (MRS), positron emission tomography (PET), single-photon emission computed
tomography (SPECT), event-related optical signals (EROS), transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) and others are offering
a view of the human body – in particular, the brain – that cannot be gained by studying animals.


Post-Marketing Drug Surveillance – if enforced, would ensure that unexpected side effects of new drugs would be identified
much sooner; thus reducing the burden of adverse drug reactions: currently our 4th leading cause of death.

Human based research
A lot of medical disciplines do not use animals and give - contrary to animal research - really relevant results for human
beings, including:
Epidemiology, preventive treatment or precautionary medicine, clinical and rehabilitation research, psychotherapy,
occupational and social medicine as well as natural healing. In toxicology (poison tests) it is more sensible, too, to use data
of human poisoning cases instead of poisoning animals. Only documentation and analysis of real poisoning cases of human
beings must be used for risk assessment. For example, symptoms like headache, dizziness or impaired concentration can be
caused by substances, symptoms which can never be assessed in animal experiments.


Why are animal experiments still carried out?
Considering that animal experiments are useless and the in vitro research is developing rapidly, we have to ask ourselves why
many animals still have to suffer and die in experiments. There are severel reasons:
In science, the outdated animal experiment has been established as a method of choice.
An enormous amount of research funds is poured into the animal experiment research.
In the world of science, researcher can only create a distinctive personal image for themselves by a long list of publication in
peer review journals.
Animal experiments are common when persuing a university career e.g. writing one's doctoral thesis.
Animal experiments satisfy the scientific curiosity, the urge to discover the nature and their phenomenons into greatest detail.

Animal experiments have an alibi function for the pharmaceutical industry, as they can protect them from claims for
compensation.
The finanicial support of research methods without the animal experiment is totally inadequate.
A method without animal experiment is only officially recognized, if their results concur with the ones of the corresponding
animal experiment (so called validation). The animal experiment itself though has never been validated. It only has been and
still is simply accepted by the scientists, although the results of the animal experiment are inaccurate, not reliably
reproducible and can not be transferred on the human situation. The quality of new, more sensible test systems is therefore
compared with a bad, outdated method. So really useful in vitro systems have only got a small chance of ever being
recognized officially.
 12/25/2006 9:12:45pm
              Jason Adams
              sairu@mindless.com
              Springfield, IL




 12/25/2006 2:48:14pm
              Alex
              alex_moroni@libero.it
              Ravenna,Italy
              fight for the freedom of all animal!w ALF!



12/24/2006 4:13:51pm
              Christina
              tainted_hollie@hotmail.com
              Greece
              hey u guys. i just wanted to say that i found out about you only a month ago but after a tiny little research, i`m totally with u.
              keep on saving the animals!



12/24/2006 3:00:28pm
              Allon
              allonverheul@hotmail.com
              The netherlands
              First of all I want to say that i think this site is grteat!! Im a animalright-fighter and i do everything in my power to help
              animals and prevent people from using fur and other things that has been tested on animals.

               I explain how the animals are been treated before they are getting murdered and alot of the people i know stopped using fur
               or eating meat.

               I support PETA aswell
               I hope that someday people realize how cruel they really are.

               Allon



y 12/23/2006 10:59:41am
              SUZANNE

               SKIPTON
               THIS IS MY LAST EVER POST!

               PLEASE ALL YOU ANTI-ALF PEOPLE EITHER GET A LIFE OR EVEN BETTER GET A JOB!

               EVERYONE ELSE:
               WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU DO TO HELP, KEEP ON DOING IT.EVERY EFFORT COUNTS.

               MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!



y 12/23/2006 3:56:11am
              mack thompson
              jmackthompson@yahoo.com
              new york
              First I want to say that, what your organization stands for is great. My question is how is alf combating the problem from asia
              where there murdering dogs cats and other animals to make fur coats. Also how could and how did P Diddy get away with
              the murdered dog fur on the collar of his clothing line and how could it get into the states especially since Pres Bush signed
              into law that dog fur is illegal. With the recent actions of P Diddy and his clothing line will alf make a public statement
              against and if not to whom should I write a letter in discuss. thanks and keep up the good work.


               ALF response:
               BEIJING, China, December 22, 2006 (ENS) - Tens of thousands of letters from
               concerned animal lovers around the world and across China have persuaded
               Chinese President Hu Jintao to halt a national anti-dog crackdown.



2/22/2006 9:32:12pm
             ERIC FITZGERALD
             eric@bartercardtownsville.com.au
             TOWNSVILLE AUSTRALIA
             Well i am happy to see there are people like me in the world . I have been a vegetarian for 33 years back when it was
             frowned on and friends thought you would die . I am glad the world has changed but some things stay the same . The dogma
             that persists about us being top of the food chain still dominates . Nature still says that lions , sharks , crocodiles , even
             mosquitoes can kill us [ unarmed as we were born ] when they choose if we match ourselves against them . The arrogance of
             humans will be there downfall .
             PS. Do you have a group in Australia that i can join . If not please give me details as to how i can set up a branch here .
             Cheers .

               ALF response: There are many active Australian AR groups. Check our web site here: Australia



y 12/21/2006 10:32:40pm
             Lew
              eichel.12@osu.edu
             Ohio
             It is very sad to hear about the threats being made to POM juice company. Tainting drinks to make drinkers of the juice very
             sick. Not only is this very ignorant as you would be harming, pregnant HUMAN mothers, children, and unknowing
             consumers, but also you are threatening acts of terror. It is apparent why a vast majority of people think that these groups are
             jokes made up of outcasts and weirdos. If you want to be taken seriously, educate, not intimidate. Not only would people be
             more inclined to listen, maybe they would respect you and appreciate freedom of speech. Instead you are only causing more
             and more people to dislike you and ignore your message. Nice.
              ALF response: The POM contamination was done by the ARM, not by the ALF. When you learn the difference you can
              amaze your friends with you knowledge of the animal rights movement.

              PS: The guestbook is checked for posts every 3-4 hours. We can't let posts in automatically because spammers have learned
              how to post advertisements automatically.



y 12/21/2006 6:47:24pm
             Irish


              I just now read some of the other entrys by these ignorant peeps that believe in animal testing,tell ye wot peeps and aye i
              direct this comment to ye,if I had cancer and knew there are cures to heal me and knowing these cures came from animals
              that suffered experiments to make me better then I would gladly deny them,I would rather suffer from my ailment then
              knowningly take these cures,I would love to see the lot of ye that support animal testing be put in the animals position then ye
              tell me it is worth it!
              Get a clue peeps!



y 12/21/2006 6:41:14pm
             Irish Cornaire
              i_luv_eire@yahoo.com
             Watertown,NY USA
             I cannot believe I found ye on myspace,for years I have always fantazied about recruiting people to rescue the animals from
             these horrific labs,but the only way I can do that is to read about the others actually doing it and applauding them,wish I
             could be a team member!



y 12/21/2006 6:05:21pm
             Jim
              punk_til_death@hotmail.co.uk
             Chester, England
             Thanx for the quick response, Very helpful.



y 12/21/2006 3:30:45pm
             simone
              asetrix@libero
             italy
             you're a great people go on to fight this terrible things against animal



y 12/21/2006 12:24:32am
             Jim
              punk_til_death@hotmail.com
             England
             Is there any way of Joining and becoming an active member of the ALF??
            ALF response: Thank you for caring about animals. The ALF does not have any official membership. ALF cells
            are comprised of small anonymous groups of close friends. Please read our credo and guidelines for more
            information here: Credo. If you have time, please join our discussion forum.



day 12/20/2006 3:35:04pm
             SUZANNE

            SKIPTON
            MESSAGE JOHN DOE:
            IT IS NICE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE INTERESTED IN THE CLOSURE OF COVANCE.
            MESSAGE ANTI ALF PEOPLE:
            I KEEP SEEING YOUR POSTS INDICATING THAT WE NEED VIVISECTION,PROFESSOR BLAKEMORE HAS
            STATED THAT MANY MEDICAL ADVANCES COULD OF BEEN ACHIEVED WITHOUT THE NEED OF ANIMAL
            EXPERIMENTS,ALSO THALIDOMIDE CAUSED BIRTH DEFECTS IN THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN.
            SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALSO BEEN POSTING ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR,THE WAR WAS STARTED BY HUMANS
            FOR PROFIT, THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE BY COMPANIES PRODUCING THE WEAPONS AND
            NOBODY FORCES THOSE PEOPLE TO FIGHT.
            MERRY CHRISTMAS AND KEEP CARING FOR THE ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE!



day 12/20/2006 3:10:19pm
             Kathy

            Pennnsylvania
            I don't know if there is a place to send donations. I would like to send regular donations. I know other's would too. I love
            what you stand for and greatly admire how you carrying it out. I just saw a screening of "Your Mommy Kills Animals" and it
            did include ALF footage. It was awesome. Keep up the great work, we love you!

            ALF response: The ALF is an underground organization and, as such, has never accepted donations. But you
            can still help us. The bottleneck in liberating animals, anywhere in the world, is finding good homes for them. We
            do our best, but sometimes we have to take them to no-kill animal shelters. Most no-kill animal shelters are full,
            and short of funds. Volunteers do all that they can. You can directly help animals by donating either time or
            money to these shelters. There is a list of these shelters in the US, Canada, and Mexico on our website at
            Shelters. Please visit the shelter nearest to you.



day 12/20/2006 12:49:53am
             simon


            The animal rights cummunity needs to become more scientific and less self stereotyping in it's ways. I'm sick and tired of
            being approached on the street by activists loudly shouting untruths. They are fools making a mokery of science and of the
            general publics intelligence. It is no wonder no that so few people are willing to listen. It also evident to me that activists
            need to pick their battles better, Decide what realy matters to the community and how they can best benefit it. Extremism and
            ludicrus gestures help no one. Uneducated ones are counterproductive Ey Pink. Thanks. thats the truth, don't ever sink lower
            than it.
day 12/20/2006 5:51:15am
             Roy G, Biv

             Free Country USA
             Because of animal testing we now have cures to diseases that would other wise be fatal, because of animal testing we have
             vaccines for:
             Anthrax,
             Chick Pox,
             Cholera,
             Diphtheria,
             Flu,
             Influenza B,
             Hepatitis A and B,
             Measles,
             Mumps,
             Polio,
             Rabies,
             Rubella,
             smallpox,
             tetanus,
             whooping
             cough,
             yellow fever.

             Thanks to animal testing we now have medication, stuff like
             Insulin,
             penicillin,
             streptomycin,
             anti-inflammatory drugs,
             Pain killers, anticoagulants,
             chemotherapy,
             chemotherapy,
             cyclosporine.

             We now have medical devices, we now have
             Pacemakers,
             Artificial heart,
             artificial hip,
             artificial knee.

             we have medical procedures because of animal testing that we wouldn’t have too, we now have
             angioplasty,
             organ transplantation,
             heart transplantation,
             liver transplantation,
             corneal transplantation.

             DON'T FIRE BOMB TESTING LABS! ALL YOU ARE DOING IS FUCKING UP OUR RESEARCH.
           Honestly I would bet money a member of the ALF has diabetes and has to inject there self with insulin... oh would you look
           at that, insulin is one of the things we have because of ANIMAL TESTING! I am probably right there is at least one member
           of the ALF who would die with out insulin, that make them THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE I HAVE EVER HEARD OF IN
           MY LIFE!

           What if some one was to set your house on fire? HOW HAPPY WOULD YOU BE THAT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
           WORKED HARD FOR IS GONE? I bet you wouldn’t be too happy with it, that’s basically what happens when you fire
           bomb a laboratory, you destroy research that could have, in turn, saved your life.

           You are not just trying to free all animals, your also trying to KILL OFF THE HUMAN RACE!!!

           Merry Christmas A-Holes


           ALF response: 1. Many people feel that the gains made via animal testing were immoral. Quotes

           2. Many doctors feel the gains made via animal testing were slower than they would have been via other means.
           FAQs about Testing

           3. The fact that we have made progress via animal testing doesn't justify its continued use any more than the fact that horses
           were once the fastest way to travel justifies replacing our ambulances with horses and carriages.

           4. Merry Christmas



12/19/2006 11:40:27pm
            me


           what is this more acurate way of testing drugs that doesn't need animals? you never say what it is you just say there is one


           ALF response: If we don't use animals, what will we use?
           This statement falsely assumes that animal experiments have been responsible for medical advances in the past. However, the
           real benchmarks of medical progress have relied on the following non-animal methodologies, as will future developments.


           In vitro (test tube) research has been instrumental in many of the great discoveries - of antibiotics, for example, and the
           structure of DNA, as well as all the vaccines we have today, including polio and meningitis.
           Epidemiology (population research) revealed that folic acid deficiency causes birth defects, that smoking causes lung cancer
           and that lead damages children's brains.
           Post-mortem studies are responsible for much of our modern medical knowledge - including the repair of congenital heart
           defects in babies.
           Genetic research has elucidated how certain genes are responsible for some diseases. DNA chips allow doctors to prescribe
           the right drug for specific patients, thus reducing serious side effects of chemotherapy, for example.
           Clinical studies of patients have given us most of our current treatments and cures - including our treatments of lazy eye and
           the knowledge that HIV transmission from mother to baby can be prevented.
           Human tissue is vital in the study of human disease and drug testing - animal tissues differ in crucial ways.
           Computer modelling is now very sophisticated, with virtual human organs and virtual metabolism programmes which predict
           drug effects in humans far more accurately than animals can.
             Advances in technology are largely responsible for the high standard of medical care we receive today, including MRI and
             PET scanners, ultrasound, laser surgery, cochlear implants, laparascopic surgery, artificial organs, pacemakers and even
             surgery to correct spina bifida in the womb.
             Human stem cells have already treated children with leukaemia and promise to deliver great benefits in the future.

             More info here:
             http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/Animal%20Testing/Europeans%20for%20Medical%20Progress.htm



12/19/2006 3:46:58pm
            Joe
            withheld
            Washington DC
            I agree with some of the things you discuss and support. I agree that animals can feel pain, no doubt about that. I agree
            completely that animals should not be used for testing or other unethical treatment. I agree that using fur for clothing is
            wrong.

             However, animals do not have souls.
             I tend to also think that animals do not have a psyche and only respond in pattern behavior. I do think that animals can be
             intelligent, but no scientist has ever developed conclusive proof that an animal has a soul or psyche. God in his infinite
             wisdom only imparted humans with souls. This is because humans are the only living creatures that can accept Jesus Christ as
             their Lord and Savior. This is the only way to heaven! This is a gift that is freely given to anyone who will answer the call!


             While I agree with you trying to stop all forms of animal cruelty, I find it sad that we fail to care about our fellow humans
             more than about our animals. If human beings truly, truly strived to love one another as Christ loves us, there never would be
             any cruelty to animals or any other living being!

             Peace of Christ to all who read this!



12/19/2006 4:46:08am
            alex
            no_flag_covers_my_eyes@yahoo.com
            california
            long live the ALF



12/18/2006 9:56:12pm
             thomas


             hey thanks for trying to limit my freedoms so animals can have rihgts they'll never use

             oh yeah thats some grammar your board members have there. (lots of spelling errors)

             ALF response: Animals need their right to free from abuse more than you need the right to abuse them. And, ironically, we
             agree about spelling and punctuation errors. You made 7, but who's counting.
 12/18/2006 11:37:41am
             van den durpel tim
             tim.vandendurpel@gmail.com
             belgium
             ill speak up for the ALF till the day i die,keep it up!!!!



 12/18/2006 0:52:26am
              Mickey
              fly_trap21@yahoo.com
              Georgia, USA
              I love ALF.
              hmm..
              --ponders--
              I shall help some how.



y 12/16/2006 12:15:39am
              zanny
              ignorethesafetyword@hotmail.com
              new zealand
              we will not stop untill all are free.


y 12/16/2006 1:20:10am
              Tessa

               Canada
               You guys are the best! Go ALF! You're awesome. Now I know who to donate money to once I've made enough.



y 12/16/2006 1:03:28am
              leviathanfd
              LEVIIATHANFD@HOTMAIL.COM
              netherlands
              0402850289


               Call them to show that you do not agree!!!
               http://forum.fok.nl/topic/954159/1/50



2/15/2006 9:23:41pm
             richelle
             xr.i.c.h.e.l.l.ex@hotmail.com
             Canada
              you guys rock!!! when i get a little older i want to do the stuff u guys have done. Canada NEEDS more activism. keep on
              doing what ur doing



2/15/2006 8:19:48pm
             John Doe
             markx42000@yahoo.com
             can't disclose
             I am interested in bringing Covance to its knees,with its hellish treatment of animals without conscience.I have done work for
             the firm and in doing so,I have tried to to sabotage their efforts with-in the company through different means(can't disclose).I
             could use the advise of and outside organization.Please contact me at above e-mail address



2/15/2006 7:21:33pm
             manu59

              france
              YEAH nice work but now the problem is moving to east and russia ....



2/15/2006 4:08:17pm
             Naomi

              Portsmouth, UK
              Just wanted to say, I think the work the ALF do is amazing! keep up the good work. I hope to one day help fight the cruelty.

              peace



2/15/2006 1:46:21am
             Katz

              Denver, CO
              I am amazed at some of the hateful, ignorant comments that you receive from people who would rather masturbate to
              NASCAR than spend a long moment thinking about how to make the planet better for everyone. We can all make a
              difference in little ways - or in big ways - but I applaud you for putting yourself out there, especially where you have to deal
              with attacks from the feeble-minded mouth breathers who would confuse you for terrorists. Stay strong. Peace.



y 12/14/2006 11:28:37pm
             Rosalind Forsyth
              roskat1962@aol.com
             scotland
             The animal torturers will rot in hell..
             For god sake keep up the good work....
             xxxxxxxx
y 12/14/2006 10:36:42pm
             michael
              michael@ingletongardens.fsnet.co.uk
             northumberland. england
             i hope that one day that all living souls will be looked upon as equals. i am fully behind the cause.



y 12/14/2006 9:09:00pm
             dodosaur
              dodosaur@gmail.com
             Quebec
             I fully support this cause, I wish you the best.



y 12/14/2006 6:08:05pm
             tara
              tara_mokeybone@hotmail.com
             edmontan
             i think that animal testing is wrong and it should stop they have feelings tooo and who ever does that is stupid



y 12/14/2006 4:06:39pm
             Marion Churchill
              compassionforcam@aol.com
             Cherry Hill, NJ
             I am asking folks in favor of AR to contact just one animal shelter or rescue group and politely enlighten and request of them
             to serve only vegan foods, not other animals, at their fundraisers.
             Many thanks.

              ALF response: Great suggestion. I know of several animal welfare organizations that changed their menu, but only after some
              pressure from vegetarians.



y 12/14/2006 10:51:44am
             nelson g. cabungcal
              ncabungcalph@yahoo.com
             bacolod city, philippines
             Hi, I am a backyard grower of organic pigs and chicken situated in a tropical country. I would like to ask for help on herbal
             plants for nutrition and treatment of deceases. Also music (if any) to calm stress in pigs and chicken. Thanks for your help.




y 12/14/2006 8:47:27am
             Sara Pulis
              mila@bigyellowduck.com
              San Francisco, CA
              Thank you so much! Seeing that there are people like you guys - willing to do so much for others - it actually restores my
              faith in humanity somewhat. You're even braver now with that Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act coming into play. Coupled
              with the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the government has even more power to lash out at people with consciences.
              Please be careful!



day 12/13/2006 10:51:08pm
             dana(ghost)
             ghost8652@yahoo.com
             NC aka HELL
             thanX for all you do. dont mind the comments that say you guys are idiots, cause your NOT. they are bitches anyway!!! love
             ya!!!



day 12/13/2006 8:04:05pm
             Adam Fogh
             adolf_ck@hotmail.com
             Denmark
             stumbled over one of your vids, really great job you guys are doing!
             and the style doing it... very nija like, great work!
             if you have any groups in denmark i would really like to know :)

              but just wanted to tell that its awesome that you guys dare to fight for a good cause



day 12/13/2006 2:56:46pm
             Andres Felipe
             apalomar@telesat.com.co
             Cali, Colombia
             They are a grand organization that works in favour of the defenseless animals, graces(thanks) for being there, look after
             themselves and continue doing this fabulous labor.

              God Bless You!!!



day 12/13/2006 4:17:03am
             Dauntless

              Canada
              Fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.

              Everyone deserves better.



day 12/13/2006 0:27:35am
             @ll @nim@ls free!
              Brazil, Porto Alegre
              For all people of ALF: your work is wonderful, keep on fight against the hipocrisy industry of death animals.
              Long life for ALF and animals.
              A hard hold for all members of ALF!
              Viva ALF!!!



12/12/2006 2:20:51pm
            Lisa Carvelot
            smilie52116@hotmail.com
            ILLinois
            this shit is off the chain



12/12/2006 4:47:26am
            Meghan

              Canada
              Please, keep up the awesome work. I'm so glad to see that people are finally doing something about this sick epidemic. Rock
              on guys, good luck! You've got my support <33 ox



12/11/2006 10:17:37pm
            M. Gurley
            michaelgurley@bellsouth.net
            North Carolina
            I think that what you guys are doing is great. Some people may think that your group goes to extremes, but this is what is
            necessary to free the animals that the "superior" humans have caged and tortured.
            I am doing a report in my English class in my high school, and I think that this is a great cause to report on. If one of you
            could send me an email on how to contribute, that would be much appreciated. (and how to join, maybe)



12/11/2006 1:49:12pm
             Zui
             siddubuddu@yahoo.co.in
             Bangalore
             Yes it is true that humans are dying aswell, but thats no excuse to take away the lives of helpless animals. We aren't any more
             special or important to this world infact i feel that mankind has now become inferior as a race and needs to learn to be more
             open minded and less selfish! Save the world before it's tooo late!



12/11/2006 1:42:17pm
             Zui
             elektrik_vision@yahoo.co.in
             Bangalore
             Awesome site,keep at it! The world needs a reality check ASAP! GO VEG, SAVE LIVES!
12/11/2006 8:16:57am
             shane

              syracuse
              go vegan!


12/11/2006 7:45:25am
             shane again

              syracuse
              No that is not true. Our basic human anatomy is not designed to digest flesh or dairy. We have long intestinal tracts, no claws
              and have to cook flesh to consume it. Nature did not intend for this. As oppose to the short int. tract claws and ability to
              consume flesh raw as nature intended for the carnivore. The canines we have are more or less a fluke of evolution, nature
              would give us the tools if this was intended but its not and the proof is in the pudding...oh yeah and 70+percent of all people
              are lactose intolerant meaning we dont have the proper enzymes to digest lactose..milk sugar...milk is intended to never see
              the light of day, to go directly from the mother to the weening animal.



12/11/2006 3:46:22am
             Corey

              Ontario, Canada
              Awesome work! Wish there were more like you. God Bless.



12/10/2006 4:16:13pm
              vittoria

              roma
              GOD SAVE THE ALF!
              (stopping the Alf, a democracy stops herself)



12/10/2006 2:19:42pm
              ELF
              earthfrontmail@yahoo.com
              NY
              KEEP IT UP

              FROM THE ELF



2/08/2006 6:36:41pm
             marnia
            mhardy1@emich.edu
            ypsilanti, mi, moving to indiana soon
            keep up th egood work! i went vegan about three days ago after eading a bunch of stuff about the dairy industry and the
            egg/poultry industry. i can't even look at meat now, or milk, or cheese. i'll eat eggs but only the cage free kind and i'll still eat
            fish (for now). thianks for being there!



2/08/2006 3:35:37pm
             SARDEGNA


            ANIMAL LIBERATION! ANIMAL LIBERATION! ANIMAL LIBERATION! ANIMAL LIBERATION! ANIMAL
            LIBERATION! UOOOO!
            CONTINUATE COSì

            ALF response: If nothing else, we like your enthusiasm.



2/08/2006 1:18:51pm




            A big thumbs up to the ALF and those who have morals and compassion. Why should God have mercy on humans if humans
            don't have mercy on animals? Animals are as important as humans and have every right to live the life that God gave them,
            we have no right to take from animals what God has given them. For all the people who condone experimentation, just put
            yourself in place of the animal and then tell us how you would feel. While you are at it read 'A Modest Proposal' by Jonathan
            Swift. Might does not make right. God Bless the ALF and those who are not morally bankrupt.




2/08/2006 12:49:02am
             Angie

            Columbus
            If some animal research is useful then how can you deny it as pointless. Statistics don't mean anything, so don't use them.
            Someone twists those numbers to mean what they want.

            ALF response: Of course animal testing has produced positive results (which the testers keep giving as proof that testing is
            necessary). Those against testing have shown (in hundreds of articles on every drug, many on our web site) that animal
            testing WASN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY to obtain those results, and in some cases gave false results. Somehow, this
            key point always gets lost.

            Angie: How does vegetarianism help the world? What proof do you have backing that idea up?

            ALF response: The Pulitzer Prize nominated book "Diet for a New America" is one good source. Google it. The facts in it
            have never been disputed.
2/08/2006 12:25:18am
             monkeyboys


            saw the documentary on bbc2 why dont you nutters get a proper job and stop leaching off the benefits that us taxpayers pay
            for and leave those with an actual job ie scientists and doctors who save lives alone!!!

            ALF response: Go ahead, ask me a science question. I can explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity without looking it up on
            the internet. The average education of the webmasters of this site is a post-graduate college degree. Our average salary is
            more than 75,000 Euros. How are you doing "monkeyboys"?



2/08/2006 12:21:36am




            and for your information the boy on bbc2 had distonia not parkisons disease twat

            ALF response: I think the poster you are correcting is on your side of the debate, but it was difficult to tell.



2/08/2006 12:19:39am




            if peter singer can change his mind about animal testing for purpose that have helped u all y cant u

            ALF response: Peter Singer has not changed his mind about anything. You can find details and analysis everywhere on the
            web. It's a good lesson is sorting out the truth, and who to trust for information.



2/08/2006 12:15:53am
             Angie

            Columbus
            And yet you have nothing else to say.

            ALF response: We have thousands of pages on our website. We'll change anything that you find to be not clear.

            Angie: You and PETA most certainly are affiliating seeing as they support you with thousands of dollars.

            ALF reponse: PETA has given money to some ALF members. People with three toes have given money to the Republican
            party. It doesn't mean that ALF members support PETA or that Republicans support people with three toes. It's also not
            relevant to us, so if you want me to agree so you can win the argument, sure.

            Angie: The AETA has passed in one house and not the other yet.

            ALF response: You can follow the status here: AETA Status
2/08/2006 11:36:29am
             ALESSANDRA
             Alverman@email.it
             FLORENCE, ITALY
             ..che un giorno chi compie questi atti possa vivere nell'eterno dolore



2/08/2006 9:08:09am
             Albert Kaplan
             albertkaplan@earthlink.net
             Las Vegas, Nevada
             God bless you all.



2/08/2006 5:54:35am
             Polite Elliot
             PE@mail.com
             Norway
             You guys are idiots.

              You're not interested in animals, just in perpetuating terrorism, curtailing the right to life for other people and pursuing an
              empty cause to give your empty lifes some meaning.

              600,000+ human lives lost in Iraq, but you morons would rather try saving rats, mice and dogs. Pathetic. Where were you
              during the Rwandan genocide? Out saving frogs?

              Glad to see one of you got locked up. 12 YEARS WASN'T LONG ENOUGH. Hope to see the rest of you in there soon too.




2/08/2006 5:42:10am
             Adam

              Canada
              Good Job. People dont get it yet and i dont know if they ever will but what your doing is getting the message across, which is
              want we ( true animal lovers ) want. Thank You!



y 12/07/2006 8:09:41pm
             James

              England
              "JUST WATCHED THE MUPPETS FROM OXFORD (PRO-TEST) OR WHATEVER? (GEEKS UNITE) ON THE BBC2
              DOCUMENTARY ABOUT ANIMAL RIGHTS (SPEAK) WHAT A SHAMBLES AND DOCTORED BY THE
              GOVERNMENT. LET THE CHILD WHO HAS PARKINSONS SHOWN ON THE PROGRAM DIE WHO REALLY
              CARES HIS MOTHER AND FAMILY?!? IT DOESNT JUSTIFY PRIMATE TESTING...AND NEVER WILL!!!!
             ALF- the Al-Qaeda of the disaffected middle-classes. Get over yourselves and delve back into your massive trust funds!




y 12/07/2006 7:56:25pm
             undisclosed

             uk
             All i can say is that i agree with Pro-test, you lot are a bunch of imbasiles!

             ALF response: First point: It's spelled "imbeciles". Second point: Pro-test has lost all the debates, they haven't refuted any of
             the scientfic arguments against vivisection, nor have they addressed the issue of its morality. As far as I can tell there is no
             logic to anything they've said except that might makes right, which will ensure that history will record their position, and that
             of their supporters, as being morally bankrupt.



y 12/07/2006 7:18:08pm
             Angie

             Columbus
             The world would most certainly not without a doubt be in a worse of state of affairs without the ALF. You are a terrorist
             organization that supports violence. How do you justify your threats against human beings, ALF? How can you justify
             harming another PERSON to "save" an animal's life?

             ALF response: Our credo prohibits harming any sentient being. Please read it.

             Angie: I do believe that animals can feel emotional pain and feel love and attatchment, but looking at it in the all cold and
             calculation realm of science, humans are superior to animals and so we have the ability to cage and utilize them. People are
             more important in the world than an animal.

             ALF response: Being a vegetarian helps the earth. Most of what we want (not eating meat, not wearing fur, etc) doesn't take
             away our energy from helping children.

             Angie: There are starving children in this world, and you would rather spend your time making threats and blowing up
             buildings because a scientist could improve the quality of life for hundreds and thousands of people? Ingrid Newkirk puts
             animals to sleep? How can this organization support such hypocrisy?

             ALF response: You'll have to ask PETA. We're not related in any way.

             Angie: Mary Beth Sweetland uses insulin which was developed by using dogs as test subjects, and you support these people
             who are flangrantly "disobeying" their own guidelines; the ones that YOU attack innocent people for.
             I for one find this organization utterly detestable and full of the biggest bunch of bandwagon hopping idiots I have ever seen.
             I, and a large group of others are writing to our state respresentatives and pleading to them to pass H.R. 4239: Animal
             Enterprise Terrorism Act.

             ALF response: I believe the AETA has already passed.
y 12/07/2006 5:56:46pm
             Tim


               Man has eaten meat for thousands of years -- one look at our digestive proteins and canine teeth is enough to convince most
               people of this. Maybe my perceptions of your argument that we should not eat meat are flawed, but it's my understanding that
               you (the ALF), detest the eating of meat as the animal is killed in an inhumane fashion or that we have simply evolved past
               the requirement to eat meat with growing food technologies. However, don't you feel that by trying to cripple meat markets
               via destruction of corporate property that you some how affect the people who have the free right to choose to eat meat, as
               we have done on an evolutionary timescale? As an extreme example, consider that Marleys Meat Factory - Fine producer of
               yummy pig snacks (blatantly made up) supplies Pork to local communities and surrounding districts. As a low level
               corporation, their revenue is such that they are expanding at a rate of around 8% a year. During their trading, they suffer a
               number of 'attacks' in which thousands of pounds worth of damage to tractors, buildings and farms is caused, along with the
               'freeing' of 30% of their live stock. To counter this, they spend money on security, more live stock, repairing damage to

               ALF response: The reason to not eat meat from animals is the same as the reason to not eat meat from humans. It is morally
               wrong to take a life.



y 12/07/2006 2:33:13pm
             andrew smith
              reylonden619@yahoo.com

               u people are vey wierd. idk wht u people are doing trying to save animals. i with huntng but i am aginst locking an anmial up
               and shooting them. but i am aginst u people. u peole are aginst people killing animals for food and other stuff but u people
               waer lether and stuff and that comes from pigs.



y 12/07/2006 5:46:08am
             lindsey
              lindseya0525@yahoo.com
             NY
             honestly, thank god for people like you, im writing a paper on you guys for my animal and ethics class and its disturbing to
             see some things that people do to animals. I wish someone would do this to them and show them how it feels. You guys will
             always be in my heart and hopefully one day i could contribute myself. god bless you all<3



y 12/07/2006 1:26:17am
             robbie
              r0bbi3_ssj3@hotmail.com
             colorado
             i am doing a report on a.l.f. and it is not a report hating on you guys it is just an info report so if there is some way that may
             be i can talk to some on the phone or in person i would love it and i do think that protecting animals is a great thing to be
             doing



day 12/06/2006 9:50:23pm
             emma
              e_m_m_2003@hotmail.com
              stockton england
              thank god for people like you. I own a beagle myself and in my opinion people who manipulate animals are sick. why does
              nobody understand animals hav rights, they just call ALF terrorists, it's everyone else who is supporting torture and murder
              don't you agree?



day 12/06/2006 8:33:25pm
             Lucy Lazo
             veganmidget1@yahoo.com
             Hogwarts
             My friend told me about this website, and so far I like it. peace out. ¢¾


day 12/06/2006 6:58:46pm
             Leanne

              Burlington, VT
              The trailer for "Behind the Mask" looks great. Can't wait to see it up here soon!



day 12/06/2006 5:54:22pm
             Ciaran Jones
             zombie_cake@hotmail.com
             Ireland
             You guys do excellent work and I admire it greatly!



day 12/06/2006 7:41:53am
             Beef
             big69420er@hotmail.com
             Iowa
             You all are the dumbest mother fuckers on the earth. I wish I could meet one of you in person.

              ALF response: Not the dumbest. For instance, we don't make duplicate posts.



day 12/06/2006 7:40:11am
             Beef
             big69420er@hotmail.com
             Iowa
             You all are the dumbest mother fuckers on the earth. I wish I could meet one of you in person.



day 12/06/2006 7:02:15am
             shy.y
             hty_yu@yahoo.com.cn
             China
             I love animals~~ Thank for you work!



day 12/06/2006 4:21:39am
             Sonia
             xoticflowerchild@yahoo.com

             do you guys know where i can find any alf merch?

             ALF response: Here's one place:
             Roots of Compassion

             You might find others by going to our discussion forum under the topic "shopping".



day 12/06/2006 1:11:28am
             Mark

             Asia
             Is it wrong to test new blends of cat food on cats

             ALF response: It depends on the test.



12/05/2006 6:56:25pm
            James
            fergy1234@hotmail.co.uk
            London
            Im doing animal rights in ethics for GCSE. And I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST testing.
            THANK you so much for like showing respect for animals. And i saw you on "Monkeys, rats and me"
            I loved you but i thought Laurie Prycroft didnt know what he was talking about. I think animals should be treated the same as
            us as they are living creatures too. It makes me cry to see those images of animal testing. Please keep up the work.

             x



12/05/2006 1:33:53am
            Mo
            philipsone_riut@yahoo.com
            California
            Thank you for your work.



12/04/2006 10:33:07pm
            James
             I have a question. Can you not be a vegetarian but support the ALF?

             ALF response: No. Eating meat supports the animal abuse industries that we want to close. We don't expect anyone to be
             perfect, but we expect those who take animal rights seriously to at least try hard.



12/04/2006 7:07:04pm
             Tim


             SINGER has always been PRO VIVISECTION ,MR T,only the uninformed media tossers(like u)believe differently!

             ALF response: The utilitarianism philosophy along with Mr. Singer's view of animal sentience supports vivisection of
             animals and vivisection of human beings only in the rare instances when the pain caused to a few would most certainly
             produce tremendous benefits to many.
             Some essays on utilitarianism are here:
             Utilitarianism Essays



12/04/2006 5:39:18pm
             Leila H.
             curlyleila@hotmail.com
             England
             I admire your work greatly. The world would be a worse state, if you werent there to help. On behalf of me and my 4 cats, 2
             dogs, 2 gerbils, 2 goldfish and my parrot tom...we'd like to say Thank youuu!!!



12/04/2006 5:01:09pm
             Mr.T

             USA
             I see that even the Guru of Animal Rights (Peter Singer) has changed his mind about animal testing.

             "It is clear at least some animal research does have benefits," Singer admits on Monkeys, Rats and Me: Animal Testing,
             which will be screened on BBC2 tomorrow. "I would certainly not say that no animal research could be justified and the case
             you have given sounds like one that is justified."

             What do you have to say about that?

             ALF response: Mr. Singer responded that he had not changed his utilitarian position at all. In fact, his actual quoted
             comments were consistent with his philosophy. Anyone who knew his writing knew that what Mr. Singer said was consistent
             with his philosophy. Once again, the news media were either 1.) stupid, 2.) they had an agenda, or 3.) they wanted to sell
             newspapers so they created conflict where there was none. Place your bets.



12/04/2006 3:41:31pm
             Eric
             ean@calvon.com

             None of this makes sense at all and seems to be only backed up by one- liners, anger, some very false information, and a lot
             of generalizations.

             ALF response: If you find anything in the Animal Rights FAQs that does not make sense, please point it out. We're listening.


             Eric: This entire organization seems to be constructed on a lack of knowledge. It is not that ALF is more moral or less moral
             than those of us who eat meat, but just has different morals than others.

             ALF response: Morality

             Eric: On side notes, a complete replacement of meat with soy is not exactly a better thing for your body. Just search "Soy
             Estrogen" and find a medical research article about it.
             Alot of the animals we eat have the ability to digest cellulose into protiens, where we humans do not have that ability.
             Being a vegetarian is healthier, but why do most vegeatarians I know look like they are about to die? I tried being vegetarian
             myself and ended up eating tons of plants and stuff, feeling weaker and weaker, and I felt sick more often.
             I live in Minnesota, where I was told by a person who was eating pinneaple and OJ that eating meat is inneficiant. Do the
             math and find my point.

             Vegan Body Builder

             Eric: Again, I just see no point in this organization.

             ALF response:

             The ALF Mission Statement:
             To effectively allocate resources (time and money) to end the "property" status of nonhuman animals.

             The Objective of the Mission:
             To abolish institutionalized animal exploitation because it assumes that animals are property.

             Eric: I am fighting for the environment and for humanity, but this is just poor. I will not disclose my real e-mail address, my
             location, or my real name because of the history of this organization has.
             P.S. I don't know how much credibility a person is supposed to get if they dont even capitalize the letter "i" when referring to
             themselves, or if they don't even capitalize the beginning of their sentances. Please look up what I have posted and think. I
             will continue to try to be apethetic to this view.

             ALF response: We agree.
             P.S. You misspelled "sentences" and "apathetic".



12/04/2006 11:43:35am
            Aimee
            06132700@harper-adams.ac.uk
            shropshire
            its a shame people dont put in as much effort in conserving our planet and protecting endangerd species as they do
            consuming our habitats with farmland and breeding like bacteria,keep up the fight! p.s who ever writes the ALF comments
            has a remarkable sence of humour
 12/04/2006 9:00:33am
              franki
              francinerush@hiotmail.co.uk
              england
              animal testing is crule and should be stoped i admire yuou



12/03/2006 4:31:08pm
              Anon
              _
              UK
              i love you ALF! NEVER give up!!



12/03/2006 9:51:50am
              brenda
              bwise55@hotmail.co.uk
              uk
              well done all you brilliant people, without people like you the world would be crap.the goverments of this world only care
              about lineing there pockets, along with the scientists, the people who rip fur off animals backs,they all have to face the lord
              our god one day,lets pray they get there just deserts. dont ever stop what you people are doing,you are these poor creatures
              only hope.could i also say good luck to heather mills,someone who cares about animals like she does can only be nice, sir
              paul must have got cold going to see the seal slaughter,good luck heather, and good luck to ALF for all future raids, wish i
              could help.brenda



y 12/02/2006 10:09:00pm
              G Cox
              cox.gareth@gmail.com
              Keighley - West Yorks
              Big respect and adulation for all the campaigns you carry out. After watching a documentary called 'Earthlings' directed by
              Shaun Monson about humanity's absolute dependence on animals...big eye opener…incredibly emotive material which
              should be shown on terrestrial tv imo. How can we stop this dependence? It will take generations and a massive shift in
              human culture. However direct action in the mean time is the only option. Keep up the good work !!!!



y 12/02/2006 2:38:53am
              Ally
              half_an_alf@hotmail.co.uk
              Scotland
              Keep doing what you are doing all those in ALF. The animals need you more than they need any other "organisation".
              SMASH HLS
              Animals
              Love
              Freedom
y 12/02/2006 0:48:23am
              Hennesey
              everybody_loves_a_clown@yahoo.com
              The Cruel Place We Call Earth
              Bless all of you guys who saved all of these animals. Even if it was just one. VEGAN POWER, PEOPLE.

               Remeber keep it real. Have a fornication free life! PRO-LIFE PEOPLE AS WELL.

               IF you believe in:

               -veganism
               -pro-life
               -celibacy

               Then thats a real triple threat.

               Peace.



y 12/02/2006 0:43:12am
              Mary Ann Wynn
              maryannwynn@bellsouth.net
              Pensacola, Florida
              Some of the comments on here are seriously disgusting by those who obviously are involved in the torture of animals. I
              discovered this site by accident.... glad I did. Thanks for all the information on your site. I didn't even know you existed but
              now that I do, I plan on doing something about it. Just keep trying to educate the dumbasses....



2/01/2006 8:38:13pm
             the torcherer
             fu_kthebunny@hotmail.co.uk
             every were
             are you lot haveing a laugh. Animals or lives even if thay did feel the pain fu*k them. Human lives more important than any
             flea bitten creature

               ALF response: Many others who share your belief also share your writing talent. Coincidence?



2/01/2006 3:06:32pm
             ANON
             someone@hotmail.com
             England
             i saw this on a bebo page

               posted by Osama Bin Burns
               ALF ALF ALF!!!
              CHEESE WIRE THOSE FUCKING HORSES!!!

              FOXES FOREVER!!!!

              THERES NOTHING FUNNIER THAN PEPPER SPRAYING A HOUND, THEN KICKING IT SQUARE IN THE
              NUTS!!!!!!!! FUCK THE HUNT FUCK THE HUNTERS FUCK ALL OF IT!!!

              FOXES WILL REIGN SUPREME YOU CALLOUS BASTARDS!!!

              SURELY you wouldnt condone this, you stand for animal rights and their freedom, you protect them surely you dont agree
              this, please say you dont its terrible.

              ALF response: I've no clue as to what you're rambling about.



2/01/2006 6:54:14am
             T.Balfour
             cyberwraithx1@gmail.com
             Cambridge,UK.
             You might not post this as I am a meat eater...one with a certain morality though,in the desire for my food,I wish more
             humane methods of farming were available,ones not born of the commiditisation of animals,treating them with some
             dignity...I have heard the old question"Would you eat your sister?"and also ,other tactics to steer those of us away from
             meat....

              Well all I will say,is if that defines me to some as a monster so be it..

              ..So it might suprise you when I say,that I am greatful for the ALF,if it takes such actions to make folks aware...play on.

              The Dutch Party for Animals,2 seats in the lower house,is great news...congratulations to Marianne Thieme and the rest of
              her party.

              T.Balfour.
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             oggie
             tameside.access@hotmail.co.uk
             lancashire
             nice one christina.i am sick of un educated pricks going on and on.i will never be tired ov defending animals.see these
             dicks what dont leave contact details are cowards.dont get made get EVEN... you ALF are miss understood but v v right.




ursday 11/09/2006 7:40:54pm
              seaaaaaaaahawks

              seattle
              i just ate a seahawk. It was scrawny and weak, like their football team.



ursday 11/09/2006 12:53:41am
              Aimee
              06132700@harper-adams.ac.uk
              shropshire
              ALF note: You sent the same message about 40 times. If you send the same message more than 2 times our system will
              delete them all, assuming that you are a troublemaker.



ednesday 11/08/2006 6:07:40pm
              SUZANNE

              SKIPTON
              MESSAGE FOR BAD BOY HITTER AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO FEELS BRAVE ENOUGH!

              Please name the time and day that you want to meet me at my home address in SKIPTON. (NB I WORK long hours so it
              has to be a time agreed.)
              I am delighted that one of you cowards is willing to meet me in person.
              People like you support animal abuse, child abuse, rape, domestic violence,in fact any kind of depravity is okay in your
              nasty little minds.
              Personally, I fully support animal rights but I have never attacked any person or their property.
              BUT I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND AND PROTECT THE MOST VUNERABLE INCLUDING ANIMALS.
              So bad boy hitter, are you brave enough to meet me on your own! Somehow I doubt that you are!
              EVERYONE ELSE GOOD WISHES AND PEACE AND PROSPERITY.



ednesday 11/08/2006 0:56:09am
              Brendan

              Vancouver,BC
              i would like you to know that what you are doing, while it may not seem like it is changing much, and the war will never
              be over, it will change someday. actions speak louder than words. completely true. while protesting does work to a certain
              degree, companies are not going to listen to some "hippies" complaining about animal righjts. thats why i completely
              support what you are doing. some may say it is not neccessary to use force to get things done, but i completely disagree. its
              time for things to change. people are too ignorant and we are all going to pay for it someday if we dont change our ways.



              GOOD LUCK, WE WILL ALL HAVE OUR PLACE IN THE SUN VERY SOON!



ednesday 11/01/2006 10:51:56pm
              lahy wawa
              valois_masse@yahoo.fr
              Normandy, France
              I checked the french ALF actions in october... Frankly, have you got any contact more serious, paintings and tags over a
              shop won't hurt nobody.
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             Matt Gardner
             gardnema@lewisu.edu
             Romeoville
             I have known of and supported the ALF for a few years now, since my senior year in high school. I have since then tryed my
             best to make a difference in my corner of the world. I am an environmental science major and it brings me great sadness to
             see and hear of the atrocious "experiments" that these animals are being put through.



day 10/30/2006 0:20:03am
             Kay
             kaylaina@hotmail.com
             Miami, Florida
             I was doing a Google search on 'meat can remain undigested in one's intestines for five years' because I had heard this from a
             friend. This page came up as a search result and this is my first time hearing of this organzation. I would love it if someone
             could e-mail me with information about the ALF and its purpose.

              ALF response: The ALF credo and mission statement are on our website. Please start here: The ALF



ay 10/29/2006 8:23:39pm
             Maria & Linda Aquino
             linda120si@aol.com
             staten island, new york
             Upon doing research with my daughter for an 8th grade social studies project we came across this site. We both learned so
             much about the fur trapping industry that it brought tears to our eyes. I hope that when she presents her project at school
             other children will go home and tell their families that animals have just as much right as humans do. They speak through
             their eyes to let us known the truth of how they are treated. We will always have the rights of all aminals in our hearts.



ay 10/29/2006 7:59:01pm
             Pavla
             pavlina.jencikova@seznam.cz
             Czech republic
             Hi, I´m looking for contacts of ALF in our country. I would like to help. Pleas help me. Thanks!



ay 10/29/2006 8:31:20am
             Deanna
             deanna@pbtcomm.net
             my family cattle farm



ay 10/29/2006 3:25:58am
             Ash
             evergreen--@hotmail.com
              canada
              i've never felt so overwhelmed by any realization in my waking life. it duscusts me how the average person is brought up
              comepletly un aware, un informed and ignorent to what they are CONSUMING whether it be edible or wearable. My life has
              changed because of
              learning about the truth. it needs to be spread , your ideologies are looked up too, and they rise the emotion for change. ...
              fight for their rights...for life. sincerly ash
              p.s- feel free to send me any intresting info about animal rights.



ay 10/29/2006 0:33:17am
             Lahywawa
             valois_masse@yahoo.fr
             Normandy France
             looking for any friendly contact here in Normandy.



day 10/28/2006 3:02:25pm
             anarchoiboi
             c1h2a3o4s5@yahoo.com
             plymouth
             i just fucking caught a bunch of hunters out with the hounds and they fucking killed a fox with the hounds its the fucking
             problem today all of these remote places dont have any one to stop them we are very feiw and they are starting to get awy
             with it what the fuck can i do im only one person ???



day 10/28/2006 11:38:32am
             SUZANNE
             SKIPTON

              TO ALL THE BRAVE SOULS WHO VISIT THIS WEBSITE TO RIDICULE, TRY THE FOLLOWING:-

              1)COME AND MEET ME IN SKIPTON FACE TO FACE FOR A DISCUSSION, BUT I SUSPECT YOU
              WOULD NOT HAVE THE COURAGE.
              2)GET A JOB - I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO FUND YOU THROUGH MY TAXES,(NB. I POST MY ENTRIES ON
              THIS WEBSITE IN MY LUNCH HOUR.)
              3)TRY THINKING ABOUT SOMEONE OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOURSELF, NOW THAT WILL BE HARD
              FOR YOU I KNOW AS ALL YOU ANTI-ALF PEOPLE SEEM SO EGOTISTICAL AND FULL OF YOURSELVES.

              TO EVERYONE ELSE GREETINGS AND GOOD WISHES TO YOU ALL.



day 10/28/2006 4:23:33am
             A Nobody

              New York
              For those who know what must be done, become a cell of one. Do your actions and hold your tongue. Your heart will grow
              and some times break. We are the lonely ones.
              Love and support for the SHAC7



y 10/27/2006 11:31:49pm
             Ally
             half_an_alf@hotmail.com
             Scotland
             keep up the great work all those involved in the ALF. More and more people are starting to see that you are not terrorists like
             the government say and are compassionate and caring people.



y 10/27/2006 8:53:26pm
             Melanie Waggett
             melanie.waggett@gjo.doe.gov
             Pennsylvania
             I am thankful for organizations such as yours and am still amazed that people see nothing wrong with animal torture and
             abuse. I have a house full of neglected and abandoned animals that I have rescued, and these animals will and do enjoy life
             without any suffering that was inflicted on them by MAN.

              Don't stop!!

              What can I do in my area to support your organization?

              ALF response: It sounds like you are doing a lot. Keep up the good work.



y 10/27/2006 8:37:30pm
             Marco
             marco_birrer@hotmail.com
             Switzerland (LU-town)
             Hello ALF!!!!
             Does any ALF organization exist in Switzerland? Please answer that sign. As soon as possible. Keep up your good work!!

              Thx Greets

              ALF response: None of which I have heard.



y 10/27/2006 4:22:00pm
             steffiowl44
             davesteff2000
             mids
             Keep up the good work-I'm with ya all the way



y 10/27/2006 2:37:18am
             tfarmer
               Midwest
               I don't understand how you put animals above humans.

               ALF response: There is nothing in our philosophy that places animals above humans.



y 10/27/2006 1:23:08am
             ALF FRANCE / Section Paris Member
             alpha_75@walla.com
             Paris
             Haters : You cant stop the ALF Mouvement



sday 10/26/2006 6:47:07pm
             laura
             www.llm@freakmusic.every1.net
             CA
             Hey im jst relief with happiness that u guys rescue britches. That story really touch me. Its so hopeful. As a christian, i do
             believe animal have right to live jst as humans. I also, believe animals should have respect and science ain't cutting it. So dats
             why I pray dat u guys keep trying to save and speak for those who can't defend themselves, the animals. May God bless you
             and i will certainly speak for the animal rights ok.
             sincerely,
             laura (19)



sday 10/26/2006 3:30:37pm
             Julie
             dunnj76@hotmail.com
             Washington, DC
             I love you all sooooooo much for what you do!!!!! It's a TOTAL crying shame that the govt wants to label you/us as
             terrorists! Keep doing what you're doing! Myself and thousands others are behind you 100%!!

               Love to all and especially the suffering animals!

               ALF response: I believe that those folks labelling us terrorists have miscalculated. They got their strategy from politics,
               where labelling opponents does short-term damage and makes the opponent look crazy. Our case is about principles, not
               about people. If they make us look crazy, that's fine. After they've heard about the "crazy AR people" for years, eventually
               they'll have an epiphany the principles will dawn on many of them. Example: The frst folks who protested the Vietnam War
               were labelled "traitors", and worse.



nesday 10/25/2006 9:14:43pm
              Steffi

               Schweiz
               Hey cooli sach wom ihr da machet wie cham mer eu helfe
nesday 10/25/2006 5:06:27pm
              Radom G.V.
              radomgvilnius@aol.com
              Vienna, Eastern Europe
              I have read a strange story today! About a rabbit and a tiger- and the ALF. Can you confirm it ? Because the source seems
              rather dubious to me. With ethical greetings, Radom
              .......................
              ALF targets tiger, takes rabbit

               Animal rights activists who broke into a circus to liberate a rare white tiger changed their minds after seeing it - and took a
               bunny rabbit instead.

               Campaigners from the Swiss faction of the Animal Liberation Front had earlier told Circus Royal director Oliver Skreinig
               they planned to steal the Siberian tiger and hand him to a zoo.

               But when they broke into the circus enclosure and saw the animal they changed their minds - and stole a rabbit instead.

               The liberationists then posted pictures of themselves online wearing black army uniforms and balaclavas and holding the

               Skreinig said: "The pet rabbit was not even in the show, it belonged to our clown's six-year-old daughter."

               source:
               http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2047670.html

               ALF response: Here is the information the activists sent to Biteback. It is probably the only communication that was sent by
               the activists (they sent the German version, the English version is a computer translation). You may notice that it does not
               resemble the published article, which was recirculated many times without change:
               Swiss Action



nesday 10/25/2006 3:20:56pm
              Dianne
              daisymaegirl@hotmail.com
              Michigan
              Thank you so much for rescuing Britches. I found your website yesterday and I am extremely touched by what you do. I had
              heard of your group before, from a friend who heard you rescued some animals from her university. Please keep helping
              those who can't protect themselves.



nesday 10/25/2006 11:09:47am
              edy
              edy__78@hotmail.com
              NSW, Australia
              we had to present a site in geogrphy, that had to do with animals, i chose urs, i explained factory /battery farming of chickans
              and other animals,showed my class slideshows from ur site, informed them of vivisection, wat they eat wen they go to fast
              food. u have a few more supporters
nesday 10/25/2006 6:33:37am
              13-XIII
              laughterror@msn.com
              the trenches
              all those who are unwilling to stand up for those who can not stand up for themselves will be shocked when the time come
              for them to stand & nobody stands with them, then they will understand what it is like to be an animal.....nobody is anybody
              without everybody....animals included.....relize this and be somebody. ALF is not a dispute between meat eaters & veg's, nor
              is it a battle between people who dont care & people who do, ALF is a war between the mindless & people who use thier
              minds. All Life Forever-ALF-Animals Love Friends-ALF-Always Live Free-ALF



nesday 10/25/2006 6:25:47am
              Bill McKibbens
              luckysleven@yahoo.com
              Wisconsin
              Soooo do any of you people accept medical treatment? Cuz uh...virtually all of it was founded on animal research...
              also, i've got type 1 diabetes... is it your view that i should have just died in 6th grade when it developed?(since the canadian
              scientists that discovered how to treat diabetics with insulin did so using a few dogs)(vivisection removing pancrease)

               ALF response: A: Pro-animal experiment contingencies always cite the development of insulin as support for continued
               animal testing. They assert, with justification, that without insulin harvested from slaughterhouses many diabetics would have
               lost their lives. Whereas it is true that animals have figured largely in the history of diabetic research and therapy, their use
               has not been necessary and furthermore has not always advanced science.

               Diabetes is a very serious disease, even today affecting ten to fourteen million Americans. It is a leading cause of blindness,
               amputation, kidney failure and premature death. Although the clinical signs of human diabetes have been known since the
               first century AD, not until the late eighteenth century did physicians associate the disease with characteristic changes in the
               pancreas seen at autopsy. As this was difficult to reproduce in animals, many scientists disputed the role of the pancreas in
               Nearly a century later, in 1869, scientists identified insulin-producing pancreatic cells that malfunction in diabetic patients.
               Other human pancreatic conditions, such as pancreatic cancer and pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas) were seen to
               produce diabetic symptoms, reinforcing the disease's link with the pancreas.

               Animal experimenters continued to interrupt the nicely progressing course of knowledge regarding the pancreas and diabetes.
               When they removed pancreases from dogs, cats, and pigs, sure enough, the animals did become diabetic. However, the
               animals' symptoms led to conjecture that diabetes was a liver disease, linking sugar transport to the liver and glycogen. These
               animal studies threw diabetes research off track for many years.
               In 1882, a physician named Dr. Marie noted the association between acromegaly, a pituitary disorder, and sugar in the urine,
               thus connecting sugar metabolism and the pituitary gland. Another doctor, Atkinson, published data in 1938 that revealed
               32.8 per cent of all acromegalic patients suffered from diabetes. Bouchardat published similar findings in 1908. For some
               reason, the scientist who reproduced this in dogs, Bernardo Houssay, ended up winning the Nobel Prize in 1947. Obviously,
               it is hardly fair to say dogs were responsible for his kudos, since knowledge predated Houssay's experiments and any number
               of human-based methods would have produced the same findings.
              In the early 1920s two scientists, John Macleod and Frederick Banting, isolated insulin by extracting it from a dog. For this
              they received a Nobel Prize. Macleod admitted that their contribution was not the discovery of insulin, but rather reproducing
              in the dog lab what had already been demonstrated in man. They were not obliged to extract insulin from dogs, because
              certainly there was ample tissue from humans. They merely did so because it was convenient. In that same year Banting and
              another experimenter, named Best, gave dog insulin to a human patient with disastrous results. Note what scientists said
              about the dog experiments in 1922,The production of insulin originated in a wrongly conceived, wrongly conducted, and
              wrongly interpreted series of experiments. Banting, Best and other scientists modified the process using in vitro techniques
              and later mass-produced insulin from pig and cow pancreases collected at slaughterhouses.
              In coming years scientists continued to refine the animal-derived substance. Though it is true that beef and pork insulin saved
              lives, it also created an allergic reaction in some patients. Beef insulin has three amino acids that differ from human amino
              acids while pork insulin has only one. Whereas this sounds negligible, it takes very little amino acid discrepancy to
              undermine health. (Only one deviant amino acid is enough to produce certain life threatening diseases, such as cystic fibrosis
              or sickle cell anemia.) Injecting animal-derived insulin also presented the sizable danger of transmitting viruses that cross
              from one species to another. Had researchers then recognized these potentialities as well as the gulf of differences between
              humans and farm animals, scientists would have hastened to develop human insulin more quickly.
              The ability to treat patients suffering from diabetes without giving them insulin injections was discovered by chance on
              humans. Today, the administration of oral anti-hyperglycemics, which arose from serendipity and self-experimentation,
              eliminates the need for insulin injections in many patients.
              Diabetes is still stunningly enigmatic, in large part due to our continued reliance on the animal model. Most clinicians believe
              that strict glucose control though insulin injections offers advantages over a less regimented treatment plan. However, insulin
              is a treatment not a cure for diabetes. The exact biochemical process through which insulin regulates blood sugar is not yet

              Bill: If a few dogs have to die to save the lives of thousands of people, than I see no wrong doing.-Likewise, if my death
              (painful or not) would save thousands of lives, there really wouldn't be a whole lot of hesitation before I signed the waver.



nesday 10/25/2006 2:28:29am
              T(E)R(A)
              deafdumbmale@yahoo.com
              Corona, California
              The Animal Liberation Front has inspired me to take my own direct action.

              thank you.


day 10/24/2006 11:39:28pm
             Justice-Nigra
             rxpmtjy537wvf4q@afrobacon.com
             the party van
             Hi there terorist sacks of shit :)
             Eat some chicken and get laid ya retards
             btw a non violent hobby wouldnt kill you either

              ALF response: Okay. Your compelling essay has changed my mind. I'm going to take up knitting now. I'll knit you some
              shorts -- I don't suppose I need to leave room for balls.



day 10/24/2006 7:08:59pm
             Jaime
             Jaimison10@comcast.net
              outside Cleveland, OHIO
              Thanks for keeping up with my communication RE: Ruby. PETA and I just received APL confirmation that Roger Miller
              shot and killed his dog Ruby Saturday night after an APL officer left a note on his door. PLEASE -- if you live in Ohio
              PLEASE refrain from EVER visiting Miller Orchards in Amherst. FYI the phone number for the orchard is (440)988-8405.
              Roger Miller was fully aware that his dog was near death in his orchard and proceeded with shooting him after concerned
              customers asked employees about the dog on Saturday, and after the consequential visit from the APL.



day 10/24/2006 4:08:00pm
             Matt

              Wisconsin
              Romans 14:2 "One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only." That is all I have to

              ALF response: The strongest animal on the farm is the ox. Enjoy your hay.



day 10/24/2006 3:34:15pm
             Jaime
             Jaimison10@comcast.net
             outside Cleveland, Ohio
             Thank you for your response to my previous posting. I should have told you that I actually spoke with the owner. He took my
             phone call and I, very politely, asked if he was Ruby's owner. He hesitated, then said yes. I asked him if he was aware that his
             dog was living on the burn pile in his orchard, was bleeding and emaciated, etc. He said, and quite rudely I might add, 'I don't
             have a dog that fits that description.' I said, "Didn't you just tell me that you are Ruby's owner?" And he hung up on me. I
             went to the County Sheriff and filed a report last night, on the recommendation of my dear friends at PETA. We have
             contacted the APL many times and the SPCA is now involved as well. I went back to the farm to try to retrieve the dog last
             night and could not find him (the orchard is about 10 acres), but left food in strategic places. The APL's Humane Officer is
             being deployed to the property today, and PETA has lit a fire under the butts of the APL for not responding to me ASAP.
             This owner is fully aware that his dog is dying on his grounds and he doesn't care. That was made heartbreakingly apparent

              ALF response: You have taken all the right steps. Thank you.



day 10/24/2006 2:58:19pm
             ALSD

              Earth
              You have inspired many.hope u hear soon from san diego



day 10/24/2006 11:29:57am
             Amber
             punkynpretty360@cs.com
             Seattle
              I am so inspired. I want to be involved. I want to do the things that need to be done, I have heard of you all before but this is
              my first time here. I feel passionate and enlightned, I want to know what I can do in my area and who else is involved near
              me. I understand I can't "join" but I want to be a part of the liberation. I want to save the innocent ones, I want to speak and
              act on their behalf, and I want to do it with others who feel the same way. Please give me more information.



day 10/24/2006 10:27:57am
             Stephan
             stephanfrehner@hotmail.com
             switzerland
             ALF in switzerland (threatening cir

              Dear ALF
              Due to my opinion you are punishing the wrong people, the ones who have a profession and give to people what people want.
              (we already could discuss why you think you have the right to punish other people... feeling god-like?? ) anyway, if people
              would not want to go into a circus, there wouldn't be a circus... so if you want to change something, try to change customer's
              mind by arguing. I think you want to be social, but threatening human beings and destroying their possession is for sure not
              the right way...



day 10/24/2006 7:37:47am
             Megumi
             megumi@po.iijnet.or.jp
             Tokyo, Japan
             Have you ever heard of the crazy dog park in Hiroshima, Japan? They closed the park due to financial difficulties. Over 700
             dogs had been left in the park; most of them imprisoned in small cages without food and without water. Finally, a lot of
             animal protection organizations helped the dogs out of this park and found new families for them. Almost all dogs were thin
             and some dozens of dogs died of hunger.
             A lot of Japanese people who saw the hell on TV news couldn't help tears running down their cheeks. I felt anger and I
             wanted to let the fact know to
             all the people over the world.



day 10/23/2006 8:03:29pm
             Jaime
             Jaimison10@comcast.net
             Outside cleveland Ohio
             PLEASE HELP. I found a dog Saturday afternoon in an apple orchard near death with his bones sticking out and a raw and
             bloody neck from his choker chain. He was chained to something and broke free and the chain was dangling around his legs.
             He was living in a trash pile (a burn pile in the middle of the orchard-- hello health violation), and is near death. Did some
             research and found out the dog belongs to the ORCHARD OWNER. This guy is completely neglecting this animal and God
             only knows what else. I don't know what to do...
             Name of apple orchard -- Miller's Orchards on Vermilion Road in Amherst, Ohio. Dog's name is Ruby I found out through a
             Rabies tag on his neck. He wasn't reported missing. This owner needs to pay whether it be through animal cruelty charges or
             the burning of his whole damn orchard and livelihood...

              ALF response: It doesn't sound like the owner wants Ruby. He may be happy to give Ruby to you. Have you asked the
              owner? If not, please do so immediately. If he won't let you have Ruby, maybe he will let you feed or walk Ruby. Let us
day 10/23/2006 7:10:17pm
             Linda
             lindy00@mysunrise.ch
             Effretikon
             SUBNORMALS...
             you are ridiculous!!

              ALF response: You must be talking about my freckles. (Hint: You might want to be more specific if you wish to have a real
              conversation.)



day 10/23/2006 7:01:51pm
             Linda
             lindy00@mysunrise.ch
             effretikon
             criminal heap. in the prison with you!

              DIE MOTHERFUCKER! I HATE YOU ALL.

              ALF response: I hate to pour sauerkraut over your peaches, but we don't really exist. The ALF is a philosophy. Although the
              media likes to call us a "decentralized organization", we have no members and no leadership.



day 10/23/2006 4:40:14pm
             CloseCovance

              Switzerland
              ALF strikes the first time in Switzerland!

              Director of the Circus Royal is afraid of his life after the notice on a camper and the kidnapping of two animals prevails with
              the Circus Royal rage and fear: The director is afraid of his life. After the Circus Royal had been criticized by animal
              protectors, because it holds a white tiger as attraction, director Oliver Skreinig (27) got murder threats. At the night on
              Saturday in Winterthur his camper was smeared with the signature ALF . That stands for the militant animal protection
              organization Animal liberation front. Skreinig is afraid for its life: “I do not stay overnight any longer in my camper and am
              only during the day with the circus.” The ALF applies in the USA as organization of terror and in the year 2000 in Austria
              happened a fire attack against the Nationalcircus of of Louis Knie committed. In a claim of responsibility, which received 20
              minutes yesterday, the ALF transfers not only the responsibility for the notice on the campers of the director, but also for the
              kidnapping of a guinea pig and a dwarf rabbit of the circus area. “These animals belonged to Nina, the 6-year old daughter of
              Link : http://www.20min.ch/tools/suchen/story/29750427
              (It`s not very good translated but I`m glad that something happened against the brutality in the swiss circus)



day 10/23/2006 3:05:25pm
             r3vo

              italy
              is there any ALF active group in italy?thanks for the answer_nice work
              ALF response: start here: Actions in Italy



day 10/23/2006 7:47:03am
             Chrissy
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             ALF You are fantastic. Keep up the good work. I support you all the way always have done and always will.



day 10/23/2006 6:47:22am
             sheree
             shorty123989@hotmail.com
             leigh
             i want any info on how to overtake the leigh animal sanctuary i have been wanting to run my own rescue centre since i was
             little and leigh animal sanctuary are so cruel and discust me.i feel sick at the thought of what they are doing to these poor
             defensless animals.any info you guys can offer about where to go for funding etc and who to see pls contact me on my email
             addy.thanks alot together lets stop thousands of innocent dogs dying.



ay 10/22/2006 7:23:02pm
             Dave W
             dave_lister2@hotmail.com
             Reading, UK
             Animals should have more rights than any of us, after all they have not destroyed the enviroment or killed for amusement.
             My blood continues to boil with rage because of my own race.



ay 10/22/2006 5:38:00pm


              Italy
              SIETE UNICI! SIETE MERAVIGLIOSI!CONTINUATE COSì!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRAZIE MILLE



ay 10/22/2006 4:00:02am




              carnivors make it to the top of the food chain while the herbivores get left at the bottom

              so I think I'll stick with the killers and not become a victim

              ALF response: The killers will be happy to have you ... for lunch.
day 10/21/2006 11:40:26pm
             THANASIS

              GREECE
              WE SUPPORT YOU AND WE WANT TO ORGANIZE ALF ALL OVER THE WORLD.THANK YOU FROM THE
              BOTTOM OF MY HEART.



day 10/21/2006 11:22:27pm
             Tammy
             MacHasNewWings@animail.net
             Syracuse
             Thank you for making the list of great quotes available, someone put great thought and effort into its format. Your web page
             has become an invaluable tool for me. And, an inspiration too many young people, who need structure in taking direct action.

              ALF response: If you find any quotes that are not on our lists, please let us know. Thanks, V.



day 10/21/2006 11:20:18pm
             krysa

              germany
              keep up your good work and many greetings from germany. cheers krysa



day 10/21/2006 3:13:50pm
             Saint
             http://www.godisafag.com
             nsa
             You will all burn in hell.

              ALF response: See 'ya.



day 10/21/2006 2:26:33pm
             Valentina
             animalsaremylife@tiscali.it
             Italy
             Yesterday I read on a magazine about the protest of Laurie Pycroft (Pro-test). He wants the animals to vivisect! Why we
             don't vivisect him???

              you are great!

              ALF response: We don't vivisect him because we would find an empty shell.
day 10/21/2006 10:30:03am
             Marisa
             elantiguoenemigo@yahoo.es
             spain
             todos somos animales, pero los de aqui estamos en el buen camino!!
             Gracias!



y 10/20/2006 9:26:09pm
             VIVIENNE
             kingsford1@tiscali.co.uk
             KENT UK
             I BELONG TO KALE - KENT AGAINST LIVE EXPORTS - THE BARBARIC TRADE FROM DOVER IN THE
             ROUGHEST SEAS - WELFARE LAWS ARE NOT ENFORCED - JOURNEYS FOR DAYS UNFED AND WATERED &
             THEN CRUEL KILLING. THE GOVERNMENT DO NOT CARE - POLICE PROTECT THE LORRIES.


y 10/20/2006 8:06:15pm
             One from Mars
             ippey77@libero.it
             Mars
             I escaped from Earth millions of years ago....How could a man do something like stare in the eyes of an animal while being
             tortured?... Thanks ALF



y 10/20/2006 4:43:44pm
             Joel Haake
             BadBoyHitter@msn.com
             London
             You guys rock!!

              www.BBHvs.tk



y 10/20/2006 1:10:37am
             thomas
             thomas.maurich@libero.it
             Italy
             great men, maby you are the last real humans in this world.

              kick ass



sday 10/19/2006 11:23:09pm
             Serf
             djempire@rogers.com
             Toronto
             Animals regenerate our soles. Animals teach man how to live in harmony. All animals are our our friends!
              Thanks for fighting for our animals. They need us and I am with your fight. Bless you all!



sday 10/19/2006 9:23:21am
             sylvia
             sylviabiscotte2@yahoo.fr
             saverne, france
             Thank you for what you doing.
             Hope you can help more and more animals



nesday 10/18/2006 10:14:32pm
              Artemis
              olgaeniki@hotmail.com
              Thessaloniki, Greece
              Great site I am with you guys! I suggest you to add also a Greek writer in your animal defenders list. Her name is Maria
              Mauridou Kaloudi, she writes literature for children where protagonists are the animals. Here in Greece we call her “The
              ambassadress of love’’ taken from her book with the title “The ambassadress of the swallows”.



nesday 10/18/2006 8:13:29pm
              Lisa R.
              Redheadchk@aol.com
              Burbank, California
              Thank you for showing the world what monsters humans can be to those weaker than they are. I wish you further success and
              hope that you can bring about a revolution - an end to all animal experiments, cruelty and abuse.



nesday 10/18/2006 7:04:48pm
              T Neill
              roguevprongs@yahoo.co.uk
              Bedfordshire
              You rule the world...keep it up!



nesday 10/18/2006 5:34:36pm
              Eric Moldero
              not@telling.com
              san francisco
              GOOD JOB!

              ALF response: Thanks for the compliment. It took some effort but my hair does look nice today! Oh, you mean the website?
              That's nice too. Thanks for visiting us.



nesday 10/18/2006 4:30:17pm
              Veronica Knight
              veronicaonly@hotmail.com
              Bend Oregon
              Animals are not our to own, free all animals. Become a Vegan... Your website is great!!!
              God Bless



nesday 10/18/2006 3:25:38pm
              Oleg

              Russia
              I truly respect and love you for trying to save every animal's soul.



day 10/17/2006 10:20:46pm
             Lorelei

              Orange County
              Love your organization and what you stand for!



day 10/17/2006 9:20:06pm
             sara


              i love all animals and try what i can to respect all of them.. after a friend talked to me about vivisection i give up buying
              l'oreal and similars.. the only cosmethics i buy i'm sure that are not tested on animals.. and i tell all of my friends to do
              something, it can seems nothing but..if anyone does something things can go better!!
              my next target is to be vegetarian.
              i know well how much animals suffer (i was a LAV-associated) but when i see your videos i still feel very angry and sad...
              go on guys! you're great!!



day 10/17/2006 6:27:46pm
             moriah
             noyamo@hotmail.com
             israel
             well done!!! continue with the importent work!!!



day 10/17/2006 7:54:47am
             Jason P
             doswood@gmail.com
             louisville ky USA
             Go ALF
             PeTA are Extremist, they dont care about animals, they just want to F**K Everybody else, so I am glad there is someone
             better than Peta.
              ALF response: Thanks, we appreciate the kind words even if we don't deserve them.

              1. Our basic philosophy is further from the mainstream (i.e.-more extremist") than is PETA's.

              2. PETA is a centralized organization and ALF is so decentralized that it is really more of a philosophy than it is an
              organization. These two can't be fairly compared with each other (although we like being called "better" anyway).

              3.Unless you find official ORGANIZATIONAL statements for or against a particular subject, assuming that the organization
              stands for or against that subject is only opinion and this opinion is likely to be wrong if it is based on the actions of
              individuals, media reports, or a small biased statistical sampling of actions.



day 10/16/2006 11:54:08pm
             Chenli
             n/a
             UK
             Keep up the good work ALF, you and many veg*ns out there are the shining light in the animals otherwise dark, clouded



day 10/16/2006 9:11:21pm
             Aspen
             dilan_z3@yahoo.com

              why not go a full scale assault on whaling ship? go and sink those bastards.. anyway its just a suggestion thank you ALF and
              God bless..

              ALF response: Captain Paul Watson has stopped whaling ships from killing whales, and he has drawn the attention of the
              world to the brutal killings. Sinking ships would only land him in jail (again) and keep him from saving whales.



day 10/16/2006 7:06:21pm
             anarchoiboi
             xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
             uk
             NEVER GIVE UP AND NEVER GIVE IN !!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
             AND IN RESPONCE TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE OUT THEIR WHO THINK THAT ANIMAL TORTURE AND
             SUFFERING IS OK YOUR DAY WILL COME!!!



day 10/16/2006 4:28:07pm
             tyran the tyrant


              you people are morrons thinking a dogs life has as much value as humans.

              also the was a smart idea "we use facts to get our point across" then I use facts to prove that your terrorist and what happens?
              I get banned but thats why I came here. t troll so much I'm banned
              ALF response: Did you drink out of the same cup as "C.Go" from Atlanta?



day 10/16/2006 3:40:56pm
             C.Go

              Atlanta
              You people harm more animals than you help. Just thought you should know.

              ALF response: Every person who turns vegetarian saves about 85 lives a year from suffering, an unnatural life, and
              oftentimes a terrifying death. That's the only specific requirement of being an ALF member. Now you know. Spread the



day 10/16/2006 2:21:43pm
             Steven McLean
             stevemclean11@aol.com
             Bristol
             Keep up the good work you guys and gals ..



day 10/16/2006 1:50:06pm
             Samantha
             goveg@yahoo.com
             Myrtle Beach, SC
             Thank you ALF and all the supporters across the world who share the same vision. Animals were not put here to be exploited
             by man.



day 10/16/2006 10:52:00am
             JUSTICE FOR ANIMALS!!!!!

              England
              Fantastic website WELL DONE!!!!
              I am a animal care student,i myself am all for animal rights and what they are doing at that sanctuary is dispicable beyond
              compare!!!.
              I went on a work experience at this sanctuary a while back and let me tell you i didn't like what i saw and ended up crying
              and not wanting to go back.I was exstreamly distraught.For me it was HELL!!! it was just like a hugh prisern feceas
              everywhere and it stunk of urine.I couldn't believe what i saw that place should be shut down completly.And all those people
              who work there should rot in hell for what they are doing.If they think thre's any justise for what they are doing then there



day 10/16/2006 5:10:41am
             Mayhem
             gstrager@gmail.com
             Wisconsin
             Looking to help in Wisconsin.
day 10/14/2006 11:52:44pm
             Matthew
             minireef@hotmail.co.uk
             England
             I have for many years been a supporter of your cause,but I am greatley disturbed by your 'forgetfullness' about the cruelty of
             halal and kosher slaughter.
             All meat is murder I agree,no type of slaughter is acceptable,but some cultures are allowed to kill animals in this painfull and
             outdated fashion,and you say NOTHING! Explain please???????????????????????

              ALF response: Thanks for the observation and concern. There are some articles on the subjects here: Religion

              If you know of any other articles, please point them out to us. We have one Jewish webmaster is working hard to change the
              religion for the exact reasons you have pointed out


day 10/14/2006 7:43:49pm
             Max
             Milkythebrownkow@aol.com
             NY
             Hey, nice new webpage, i havnt been here in a while. Keep up the good work, go black and green!

              ALF response: Thanks. What's black and green?



day 10/14/2006 3:40:06pm
             Steven

              New York
              Keep up the good work



day 10/14/2006 3:38:16pm
             Chris Springhall

              Harrogate
              God bless you guys



day 10/14/2006 4:13:04am
             jaycee

              usa
              Thank you so much for saving animals' lives. Animals are people too. Keep it up!!!
y 10/13/2006 6:50:16pm
             Student

             Oxford
             I'm not sure what you hope to gain by intimidating the students of Oxford University. Oxford has one of the most politically
             active student bodies in the country, and by targeting them, you are alienating people who could potentially be very useful
             allies in your attempt to stop the animal lab from opening. When animal rights activists burn boats, vandalise colleges, rob
             students etc, the result is that even students who are against animal testing begin to greatly dislike the ALF, and this surely
             does not help your cause. What especially causes students to resent you is that most of your victims are studying subjects
             totally unrelated to animal testing. I do not see why as a student (not, incedentally, a biology student), I and my comrades are
             being victimised for something which has little to do with us, and which many of us are in any case uncomfortable about. I
             hope that you will consider changing your tactics and try to engage with Oxford students in a more friendly manner.

             ALF response: The cause is about principles, it's not about people. The folks who have gone from doing nothing to hating the
             messenger aren't hurting the cause (they may be helping it, much as those who protested S. Rushdie's book made the concepts
             it spoke of more famous).

             If you look at the most effective ways to reach the apathetic masses nowadays it seems that the least effective way to get them
             to listen is to hand them a brochure or try to talk with them. I strongly agree with you. It shouldn't be necessary to make
             people angry to get their attention.

             But having somebody piss me off is how I (and several million others), first learned about animal rights. And after many
             years I still don't know any smart people who threw out the concepts because they disagreed with the messenger. The people
             who remain angry either were not going to change their minds anyway, or they are fools and we'd rather not have them on



y 10/13/2006 6:48:14pm
             Gretchen
             GretchenW113@hotmail.com
             NY
             You ALF people are all a bunch of fucking FREAKS!!! Honestly, what is wrong with you????



y 10/13/2006 5:13:22pm
             S. Hicks
             summerrae1979@yahoo.com
             Ft. Wayne IN.
             ALF...YOU have my support %100. I speak for all that you help liberate! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

             Might I add a comment to those who think it is funny to slam those who actaully give a damn about others besides
             themselves. You think it is so hillarous to make comments like "I am going to make myself a stake" or "I'm off to take the
             kids to McDonalds and to the circus." Hah! You people are so iggnorant. It is child abuse to feed your children such crap and
             expose them to the lies that large corporate factory farms and huge multibillion dollar industries feed them. Mc Donalds does
             not care about your children to advertise to them the junk they want to feed them. It is discusting that parents like yourselves
             raise your children to believe the lies that life is all hunkie dory for animals under the big top and that being confined in a pig
             gestation crate and dieing piece by piece in a slaughter house is considered acceptable by your LOW standards. YOU don't
             care about your children by supporting factory farming. Do you have any idea a how much forest is distroyed by your big fat
             taste buds??? Your children will NOT have the luxury of enjoying God's beautiful creation because you help to distroy it day
y 10/13/2006 12:53:40am
             SUZANNE

              SKIPTON, NORTH YORKSHIRE.
              ANYONE WISHING TO KNOW HOW TO HELP WITH VIVISECTION, TRY THE FOLLOWING

              CONTACTING LABS DIRECTLY, (IE HUNTINGDON LIFE SCIENCES,COVANCE) CONTACT THE
              DIRECTORS,WORKERS,SUPPLIERS, IDEALLY ON A SUNDAY EVENING WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO REST,
              ASK THEM HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT TORTURING ANIMALS TO DEATH, (NB THE MAJORITY OF THESE
              PEOPLE CANNOT HOLD AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION AND WILL RESORT TO ABUSIVE
              LANGUAGE/THREATS TO CONTACT POLICE.) PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION INFORMATIVE AND
              POLITE, BUT REMEMBER THE ANIMALS SLOWLY DYING IN PAIN, ALONE AND AFRAID AND BE
              PERSISTENT. THE DIRECTORS/WORKERS/SUPPLIERS WILL BE TRYING TO HAVE A NICE QUIET SUNDAY
              BUT THEY SHOULD BE REMINDED OF THE NASTY LITTLE WAY IN WHICH THEY ARE EARNING THEIR
              MONEY. IF PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO ABUSE ANIMALS THEY WOULD ALSO PROBABLY BE HAPPY TO
              ABUSE CHILDREN, SO DO NOT FEEL ANY DISCOMFORT ABOUT CONTACTING THESE PEOPLE. (NB POLICE:-
              IF YOU ARE SCANNING THIS WEBSITE, THE ABOVE IS IN NO WAY INCITEMENT TO COMMIT ANY



y 10/13/2006 12:14:01am
             Krakow apartments
             krakow@mail.com
             Portugal
             "I



y 10/13/2006 7:39:43am
             chris

              Uk
              To the arse, who calls himself johnwhite817@hotmail.com You really are a complete DICKHEAD. You know nothing about
              the ALF so go FUCK YOUR SELF. Oh while your at it.. go and drop dead.



y 10/13/2006 7:25:09am
             C
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             To sean.lovell@btclick.com Please get educated you utter fool.



y 10/13/2006 3:40:12am
             Sean
             Sean.lovell@btclick.com
             Dunstable
             You all are a bunch of freaks, but why not attack the muslims for torturing animals, why, coz you probably love them as well.
             ALF response: Taking this fantasy to its logical conclusion, I picture us together, eating Screaming Yellow Zonkers.



sday 10/12/2006 4:48:31pm
             cfuck up
             chris_burnsy@hotmail.co.uk
             derbz
             how would i go about finding the nearest group of ALF members and joining in what they do.?
             keep up the good work

             ALF response: Thanks for caring about animals. ALF cells are autonomous and anonymous. Sorry, but you have to take
             action with only people you trust. For some of us folks that means working alone. For ideas, please visit our website under
             the "Practical" icon.



sday 10/12/2006 10:26:47am
             Davis

             The valley of darkness
             the path of the riteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyrany of evil men. blessed is he, who
             in the name of charity and good will, sheperds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brothers keeper and
             the finder of lost children. and i will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to
             poison and destroy my brothers. and you will know my name is the Lord when i lay my vengeance upon you! i love science,
             but hate animal testing, but also hate your bastard terrorist wankers who call themselves activists and peaceful hippies.

             ALF response: You're okay in our book. As long as you hate animal testing and you take action against it, you can hate
             hippies until the end of time.



sday 10/12/2006 0:01:51am
             GO VEGAN


             Greets from germany-Mönchengladbach



nesday 10/11/2006 11:52:14pm




             My Brother's Keeper

             And I am my brother's keeper
             And I shall fight his fight
             And speak the word for beast and bird
             Till the world shall set things right

             From street, from cage, and from kennel
               From stable and zoo, the wail
               Of my tortured kin proclaims the sin
               Of the mighty against the frail

               Oh, shame on the mothers of mortals
               Who have not stooped to teach
               Of the sorrow that lies in dear, dumb eyes
               The sorrow that has no speech

               The same force formed the sparrow
               That fashioned man the king
               The God of the whole gave a spark of soul
               To furred and to feathered thing

               And I am my brother's keeper
               And I shall fight his fight
               And speak the word for beast and bird
               Till the world shall set things right

               Ella Wheeler Wilcox
               1850-1919



nesday 10/11/2006 10:39:09pm




               Please treat all living beings as you would want to be treated. Goveg.com -God Bless the ALF.



nesday 10/11/2006 8:43:33pm
              Fernando Sanchez
              ferchikaiko@hotmail.com
              Venezuela
              Arriba el ALF!!!
              ALF thanks a lot for all the things that you are doing. You are not alone!! there are a lot of people in the world that are trying
              to make a change.keep helpnig those who need them!
              F



day 10/09/2006 1:04:40pm
             kevin
             punkykev1@yahoo.com
             essex england
             hi, keep up the good work..... respect.



ay 10/08/2006 7:50:54pm
              VACCA
              www.vaccaman.com
              MILAN
              SUPPORT THE ALF!!!



ay 10/08/2006 4:57:18am
             Cindy
             aprilcindy@aol.com
             Henderson, NV
             You are fighting the good fight. I think before I die I will have to give it a go myself. I completly support what you are doing,
             and will cast my vote to help when the time comes. God Bless you, or who ever you believe in.



y 10/06/2006 11:26:14pm
             Ian P
             ianpwat911@yahoo.com
             LA
             I am glad to see you guys' devotion to animals.

              Keep it up.



y 10/06/2006 6:37:00pm
             Wow
             draine@hotmail.com
             NEWFOUNDLAND
             Hey folks,
             Just wanted to let you know that if you are behind the fake Newfoundland tourism site, you'll have to try harder. You'll never
             hurt tourism in Newfoundland and you'll never beat the people or the life here.

              ALF response: The website was created by Newfoundlanders, a place none of us plan to ever go.



y 10/06/2006 11:29:30am
             fiona gordon

              england
              animal testing is sick!!!!!!!!!! with a capital S!!



sday 10/05/2006 5:08:49pm
             Miguel Sanchez
             chaoticcrucifix@hotmail.com
             San Diego, CA
             Vivisection and all animal torture must stop!!!!!!!! immediately! liberate and go vegan ! PE(A)C(E)
sday 10/05/2006 4:09:09am
             Carolyn Lever
             carolyn.lever@hotmail.com
             New Zealand
             God bless you and all that you do to help save animals from the evils imposed on them by human beings.



sday 10/05/2006 3:42:57am
             Mack
             mackthompson74@yahoo.com
             Staten Island , New York
             Although I am a hunter, I must say that i can see what you are doing, After seeing your video's, Its appauling, to see how the
             animals are treated, the cows are murdered, but the one things that gets me, is how anyone can wear a damn fur coat. I've
             seen what happens where they electrode the animals to death, Its seems that people dont want to know how the process is to
             murder the animals, when are you comming to NYC to protest the meat market.



nesday 10/04/2006 9:24:15pm
              Sage


              You have my support in every action you take to ensure all the innocents are protected.



nesday 10/04/2006 9:08:09pm
              sdfgdsfg
              dfgdfsgdsf@cxbgsdfgbsd.com
              dfsgsdfgdsf
              What about the children dont you care about them??

              ALF response: Yes, we care very much about children. That's why we teach them not to run with scissors, not to smoke
              cigarettes, not to eat meat, and not to be cruel to other living things which will bankrupt their souls.



nesday 10/04/2006 1:01:15pm
              Neo.Knivez
              galit_ako_sa_baboy@yahoo.com

              we all support the aims and goals of ALF. All for Radikal Animal Liberation.

              God bless you guys!



day 10/03/2006 10:37:04pm
             Marshall Dudley
              Toronto
              Unfortunatly, simply boycotting products provided by the exploitation of animals is often not enough.
              Defensless animals need a protector. Legality is not morality.



day 10/03/2006 3:07:07am
             Christine Nusbaum
             chris251688@comcast.net
             Florida USA
             You don't accept donations. Wow, that's reasonable. Seeing that there's no real members of the ALF, just supporters. And,
             I'm assuming, that the founder/relatives/friends of the founder of the ALF is running all this? Correct me if I'm wrong.

              I may have said this before, but I'll say it again...

              You people who are against the ALF, DEAL WITH IT! I HATE IT when IDIOTS come to websites of something and are all
              "omg u fuckin suk! i hat u!" It's BLOODY ANNOYING! Go do this on your OWN websites! For all I care, go make an anti-
              ALF website! Alf-sucks.com, thealf-kills.org, WHATEVER! Just go do it SOMEWHERE ELSE! WE DON'T WANT TO
              HEAR YOUR BLOODY CRAP!

              Sorry to make such an outburst, but it annoys me.



day 10/02/2006 11:26:48pm
             WhiteSnowFox14

              Langhorne
              I am a member of Peta and the ALF kept coming up of some of the message boards so I thought I'd find out what all the fuss
              is about.

              What you guys are doing is awesome! Keep up the good work! Best Wishes!



day 10/02/2006 6:59:46pm
             Timberwolf
             Timberwolf@hushmail.com
             Wales
             Thank you on behalf of all the animals who search for a friendly face in their darkness. X



day 10/02/2006 10:49:19am
             Wayne
             Omnipotentred333@hotmail.com
             R.S.A.
             Keep up the good work fitghing for animals. The world needs more people like you guys. My Grandfather use to say you can
             judge society by the way it treats its eldelry and its animals.
day 10/02/2006 4:16:23am
             Stephanie
             Electric_rainbow87@hotmai.com
             Ontario, Canada
             Hey. I Have Some Questions...

            I Had Rescued 2 Squirells My Self And

            Wondering How To Send You Guys My Pics

            So You Can Put Them Up...Get Back My

            Email Is Electric_rainbow87@hotmail.com

            I Actually Had Alot Of Animals But Had

            To Find Thme All Good Homes Because I

            Was In A Very Abusive Relationship...

            I Tried To Be Able TO Keep Them But

            On My Own At 19yrs With No Job And 2

            Dogs 4 Cats 2 Hampsters 2 Squirells 2

            Rats 4 Ferrets And two 45 gallon Fish

            Tanks I Think Its A Little Much But I

            Tried And I Miss Them Terribly...



ay 10/01/2006 8:26:45am
             *CYNTHIA*
             BarbeNBondge@aol.com
             ANAHEIM,CA
             You guys/Girls ROCK!

            I was very fortunate to come across your web site.

            I have always had a soft spot for animals, and I always will.

            I think what you people do is AMAZING!

            Every time I watch a Liberation video, I cry tears of joy.

            I have been very active in animal rights, and I go to weekly protests
            (against POM juice, and HLS etc.)

            I know that if the animals could speak,they would say "Thank God for the ALF!"
Keep up the good work!!!!

*CYNTHIA*

P.S. If there are any activists in the Oraneg County area who want to go to some powerful protests, please feel free to e-mail
BarbeNBondge@aol.com
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              SUZANNE

               SKIPTON
               MESSAGE FOR JOHN WHITE

               I AM ALL FOR FREE SPEECH, BUT PLEASE GET OFF THIS WEBSITE OR AT LEAST COME UP WITH A
               FACT: EVERTIME I ATTEND A DEMO FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS I HAVE TO FUND MY OWN TRAVEL, FOOD
               EXPENSES, ADD TO THIS THE USUAL VIOLENCE FROM THE POLICE AND IT IS CERTAINLY NO
               HOLIDAY,(BEARING IN MIND THAT I ALSO PAY HIGH TAXES TO FUND THE STATE THROUGH MY
               EMPLOYMENT,INCLUDING THE POLICE SALARIES AND PENSIONS,) PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO TAKE A STAND
               DO SO BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BEAR THE THOUGHT OF ANIMAL CRUELTY TAKING PLACE AND NOT
               DOING ANYTHING TO FIGHT IT. EQUALLY I WOULD STAND UP FOR ANY VUNERABLE BEING AT RISK



ay 09/30/2006 3:57:29am
              John white
              johnwhite817@hotmail.com
              planet earth
              I guess you guys sink to new lows all the time.....don't tell the truth, just tell what you want so that people will open their
              wallets to give you sorry ass organization MONEY because that is what you are really all about.....praying on weak
              individuals to give your bottom line a better number....you guys use misinformation on everything to try to sway people your

               ALF response: The ALF has never accepted donations - not even a used postage stamp. There is no "donate here" button to
               click. If you see these things, please see your doctor about your medication dosage. I repeat: There is no way to donate



ay 09/30/2006 2:32:40am
              Chris Carson
              ccarson@hotmail.com
              colorado
              God bless you guys, your passion your, your courage and your commitment. You
              are an army if you will for animals. Nevermind these unenlightend jerks on your site bashing you and your tactics, they truly
              do not know what they do ar say. If this goverment had a litlle more hummanity,
              maybe this would not be neccessary. I admire you guys, dont give up the fight. Chris



09/29/2006 11:46:48am
             sable
             pink_panther3088@hotmail.com
             Adelaide, Australia
             i cant watch the videos on your myspace and on boycott McDonalds. everytime i do i just cry because these animals are just
             so INNOCENT and i cant believe the PEOPLE that hurt them..... kill them



09/29/2006 5:27:33am
             Kelly Ann Higginbotham
             vegancatlady@yahoo.com
             Visalia, CA 93277
             I have been to prison for animal rights actions and I will continue to do it the rest of my life. (only I won't get caught again)
             We have to do what we do. It's what we were put here for---the voice for the animals. Mine will never silence. Animals are
             my life--my very existence. I'm proud to share the same beliefs with all of you outstanding, moral people. Don't ever give up.



09/29/2006 1:09:26am
             Rodrigo
             rodoiron@hotmail.com
             São Paulo-SP/Brasil
             Hi, I'm a boy of 15 years of Brazil.
             My apologizes for the bad english, but I only want to show my admiration for the ALF.
             I think you are the real heros of this world, you are the defenders of the freedom!
             Tanks for yours actions for the liberty of the animals.

             hehehe, My english is very bad!



ay 09/28/2006 2:53:43pm
             jesse

             hicktown, WVA
             I will never support any of your anti-hunting asses. I hate you all..fuck all of you

             Ted Nuget is my hero!!!!!!!!!


             ALF response: To quote George Carlin, "Thank you. Fucking is a good thing."

             PS: Who's Ted Nuget?



sday 09/27/2006 4:07:28pm
             Michael
             michlaky12@yahoo.com
             Berlin / Germany
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sday 09/27/2006 2:52:52pm
             Thomas
             cortaopulso@gmail.com
             nevermind
             Im from Brazil, and i dont know speak much.
             But i just want to say....
             The work of this group is very wonderfull, i love this group ALF is just the better.
             i ever want make a group called something like a "GREENHATE". But now, i found ALF and im very happy!

             Animals right!


             thanks for exist ALF



sday 09/27/2006 2:42:01am
             Christine Nusbaum
             chris251688@comcast.net
             Florida USA
             ALF, sorry about all these extremely rude comments. This is as low as you can go. When the government and media pushed
             down the ALF, you kick them? That's sick! If you have a problem with the ALF then go make your own website! Heck! Go
             make a organization called the Anti-ALF! Or whatever! Just remember, if you go off and start protesting the ALF's ways at
             ALF supporters homes, then you have degraded yourself to what you call the ALF, scum.



sday 09/27/2006 0:50:41am
             Willow

             USA
             AND it's pretty ridiculous that you won't enter my submission until you approve it. Pretty weak tactics there, eh?

             ALF response: The approval is not used to stifle opinion but rather to allow us to delete the 3 of 4 posts that are made by
             internet spiders placing links in the guestbook to prescription drug sites and porn sites. To a lesser exent we need to block the
             occasional overzealous poster who wants to see if he/she can make an infinite number of posts. We apologize for the



sday 09/27/2006 0:48:43am
             Willow

             USA
             If I were the owner of the fish farm from which you "liberated" 15,000 fish on 9/20, I'd sue your asses off, every last one of

             ALF: I'm sure they will prosecute if they catch them.

             Willow: You wackos deserve to be imprisoned for what you did to that poor man. You destroyed his livelihood, you
             jackasses. Do you think that will make people stop eating fish, which are really just swimming plants because they hardly
             have brains of which to speak? I'm with a previous poster here, put on a suit and tie and get in a boardroom. Do something
             CONSTRUCTIVE rather than DESTRUCTIVE and maybe people wouldn't think you're a bunch of jackass PETA morons.



y 09/26/2006 8:35:47pm
             Tim

             UK
             Dr Rock,the legal avenues are already corrupted by industrial interests.



y 09/26/2006 7:40:16pm
             christina-staz

             denmark
             keep up the good work



y 09/26/2006 5:25:59am
             Dr. Rock
              callic@retardsrule.com
              VT
              I understand where this group is coming from and I respect that you have feelings for these animals that are being tortured for
              close to no reason... yet your tactics are highly questionable. Dressing in camo-gear with masks and destroying science labs is
              not the way to make a point. And leaving behind graffiti that says things like "We are now free. signed, the animals."
              Seriously, what is that? That's something I would expect from a kindergartener with a "clever" idea. Running around town
              breaking windows and flipping tables over is not how you get a point across. If you want to be taken seriously you have to
              make a change in a way people will respect you for. Go into a boardroom with a suit and tie and lobby against this kind of



y 09/25/2006 7:03:55pm
             katia
             ostrovec@hotmail.com
             belarus
             all two years that i was vegetarian and then vegan i thought i was the only person who is thinking about animals ih this
             country. but recently i found a shelter for animals.am feeding them,walking,playing with them. but what about
             slauters,vivesection,testings and so on??? i dont know what to do!! how to appear at animal farm for video? how to learn if
             our cosmetic firms are making tests?? will they say true through e-mail?? u were starting one day too. pleeeease share ur



y 09/25/2006 6:06:42pm
             Riin

              USA
              While I feel the cause is good, sometimes I don't agree with the outcomes. For example, the 15,000 some fish that were
              liberated into the ocean, only to wash ashore dead. While I know this type of thing doesn't happen all the time, it sure isn't
              good for ALF. What's the point of liberating an animal if it's only going to die in the wild? Or is it more important to damage
              the ones housing the animals? At least in the last case, over $500,000 in damage was done to this "fishing factory". Does this
              damage justify the way these fish died once released? I understand the people that did this were, and are, "fighting the good
              fight", but one needs to keep in mind that ones actions my damage the reputation of the entire organization. After all, ALF



y 09/25/2006 3:30:35pm
             DDD

              Australia
              I saw the Penn and Teller program and they gave the whole story. PETA kill 2 thirds of the animals they "rescue" and then
              put them into a $9000 walk in freezer, that they listed below the "Freeda the Fish" costume in their tax records!

              You people are truly the biggest sorriest cultish jackasses that exist in the middle class anglo world.

              You try and falsely "insert" yourselves into the African american, Jewish and other movements.

              But you people arn't blacks, jews or arab detainees in Gitmo. Your just a bunch of hyper-emotional, middle class, priviliged
              morons with nothing else better to do. Least the British soccer hooligans put their empty emotion into destroying soccer
              stadiums, not in destroying useful science. The soccer hooligans are welcome in Australia, but not you nuts.

              Stay outta Australia.
              ALF response:

              1. We're not affiliated with PETA.

              2. We're probably stronger in Australia than anywhere else.

              3. Of the nine webmasters of this site, only three are white and one of those three is Jewish.

              4. Besides that you're wrong about everything else too.



y 09/25/2006 1:34:30am
             NoFXer
             SoCALNoFXer@aol.com
             Modesto,CA
             I fully support the ALF and all it stands for. There is NOTHING this country does to protect it's poor animal citizens, there-
             for organizations like the ALF are NEEDED! They can't protect themselves from the heartless scum of this world so
             someone has to. So I will support the ALF in any way I can in Modesto, California. I, personally, want to show the world that
             not all animals lovers like "us" are passive, peace loving hippies but we actually are setting out to accomplish our goal by any
             means nessecary. I'm ashamed to be human... If anyone would like to discuss certain things.. AIM s/n is SoCALNoFXer



y 09/24/2006 6:06:51pm
              Pinkerton1971


              In the words of Winston Churchill, "So you have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something sometime."
              Thank you for your compassion, bravery and heart. UNTIL THEY ARE ALL FREE!!!!!



ay 09/23/2006 8:17:00pm
              Ron D


              To Ron D: Every animal flesh eater i've came across uses the "plant pain" argument as well as "plants have feelings too."
              Suddenly,carnivores,like you care about LIFE! It's an ongoing self-deception in the guilty practicing carnivore's mind.

              Here's your "logic" and the implicity with it:
              Plants feel "pain" because there "energy" increases when uprooted;so therefore the vegan is as guilty as me,Right? Therefore
              ROOTED plants and individual animals are the "same" and thus it isn't wrong to kill the heart beat of a cow because there
              like a plant! It's the societal comparison,"Plants and Animals",one and the same,right? Thats why factory "farms" make
              "sense" because individual pigs and hens,are viewed as ROOTED plants,and thus ROOTED plants do not have legs,and thus

              Here's the biological facts:

              ROOTED plants do not have a brain or internal organs or a pulsating heart beat or a nervous system.
              Neither do ROOTED plants have a gender.
              Or legs or arms or eyes,mouth,ears,tongue,face etc.
              Your defense Ron D is the last self-deceiving line to maintain your animal flesh eating palate;and all the suffering and death

              Suddenly the carnivore cares about life!



ay 09/23/2006 4:32:44pm
              alex
              ammac2005@yahoo.co.uk

              I think you do wonderful work and feel ashamed that I do not do more. I would like to join and do what I can to support you



ay 09/23/2006 4:32:15pm
              Mr. T

              USA
              I like this definition of "Hypocrite": A person who focuses on the other fellows crime but refuses to look at his own.-Noam



ay 09/23/2006 10:34:35am
              SUZANNE

              SKIPTON
              COVANCE,COVANCE,COVANCE.

              MESSAGE TO AVERY, BROUGHTON, MANN AND ALL OTHERS WHO ARE NOT FRONT LINE BUT STILL DO
              AN AWFUL LOT OF HARD WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.(YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.) COVANCE IS
              SITUATED IN HARROGATE, NORTH YORKSHIRE, THERE IS REGULAR ABUSE OF ANIMALS WITHIN THIS
              LAB, WHILE ALL ATTENTION IS EITHER FOCUSED ON HLS OR OXFORD, THE COVANCE DIRECTOR AND
              SHAREHOLDERS ARE MAKING A NICE LITTLE PROFIT OFF THE BACK OF ANIMAL MISERY. COVANCE



09/22/2006 10:29:44pm
             Ron D.
             bubbaron2004@yahoo.com
             Lowell, Mass
             I support all that you do when it comes to saving animals from experimentation and torture. Because we need those animals
             to help feed the less fortunate who live in this country. And for those who feel that eating an animal is wrong you need to
             think that if we as humans were intended to just eat veggies we would have been born with all of teeth like a cow has. But
             since we have incizors as well we are born to eat meat of any and all living creatures that God has placed here on this Earth.
             And just to state a point, it has been proven that plants do have a primitive nervous system. And when they are cut from the
             earth they show a sharp increase of electro-synapse energy through thier system. Which is identical to pain sensor readouts in
             animals and humans. So to you vegans out there, plants "DO" feel pain. It is just that they are unable to "VOICE" as we or
             animals do. So when some say that we are cruel because we eat meat you need to look as to how plants "FEEL" when it come


09/22/2006 9:22:58pm
             in awe
              I am so happy for the 23 recently liberated rabbits. Great job! It is so comforting to know they will never be tortured again.
              Thanks for giving me real heroes, I sleep better at night knowing there are people like you in the world. Up the ALF



09/22/2006 2:52:21pm
             nikki
             swans_girl_@hotmail.com
             swansea
             animal testing is bad



09/22/2006 10:35:34am
             Unknown

              Canada
              I think you are doing the right thing. Keep up the good work



09/22/2006 0:31:24am
             marzena
             marzena.kot@vp.p,
             Poland
             You are great!!!God bless you! I would like to join you !



ay 09/21/2006 11:22:36pm
             Anna Dove
             nybirdclub@yahoo.com
             New York, NY
             Thank you for all you have done for animals.



ay 09/21/2006 6:33:05pm
             Tim


              I wonder why the "Timesonline" doesn't mention that the 15,000 fish,who were captive,were going to be killed for the

              Ah! I know why,because that would admit "wrongness" and bad PR for the meat industry,wouldn't it?

              I love it when common anthprocentric's present coporate media articles,as if they are articles of truth.Just go's to show the
              obedience of the masses to the tabloid's.

              The conclusion: Thousands of individual fish,were going to be killed for the local ASDSA near you(that was a
              certainty),whereas freeing the individual fish prevents that.
ay 09/21/2006 2:55:00pm
             susy
             jillymeline@hotmail.it
             parma, italy
             Thank you, thank you, thank you! You have the courage that we would like to have.
             Go on!!



ay 09/21/2006 9:15:06am
             Richard


              Animal activists free 15,000 farmed fish to their deaths http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2366233.html

              Good going there, guys (: Maybe next you could start a few forest fires to stop deforestation...



ay 09/21/2006 1:55:19am
             alexis
             myspace.com/brother_interior
             las vegas
             ALF is the best thing since diced carrots!!! keep saving those adoarble animals
             ps..GO VEGAN BITCHES!!! ahah



sday 09/20/2006 7:02:20pm
             Retarded Fish Propagandist


              Go a spew your fish industry propagandism elswhere!



sday 09/20/2006 6:04:37pm
             alan gilbert

              1116 washington # 304 oak park IL 60302
              I would like to join. I really agree with your ideas.



sday 09/20/2006 10:03:17am
             Retarded
             retardedanimallovers@alf.co.uk
             Fish Farm
              You morons stop vandalising fish farms as they are all just going to die, they are farmed so we dont have to fish in the sea
              which hurts even more animals.



y 09/19/2006 8:40:52pm
             Fabrizio
             fainazz@hotmail.com
             Milano ITALY
             Better 1 day FREE than a life in a jail.....GO ON ALF.....GOOOOD WORK!



y 09/19/2006 3:30:36pm
             Alessandro
             perilao@libero.it
             Milano- Italia
             :-) :-D



y 09/19/2006 3:11:07pm
             Me!

              Germany
              hey guys , i love everone of you , you are all heroes!!!!!!!!! FUCK everyone who kill animals!!

              ALF 4Ever I love you kisses from germany

              i hope my gramar is ok ;)



y 09/19/2006 2:51:51pm
             Matteo
             iljokerone@libero.it
             Milan, Italy
             Great! You're the true soul of our heart. Nothing can stop you. GO!



y 09/19/2006 2:50:51pm
             Jan Graveson
             jangraveson@yahoo.co.uk
             U.K.
             I am an actress and an animal rights supporter and campaigner. I would like to say a huge well done to you all for your
             courage, passion and commitment to help bring this kind of absolute cruelty to peoples eyes...everyone needs to know about
             these immense atrocities and exploitations, so animals can live their lives cruelty free in every way and the world can be a
             much kinder place to live, afterall every living creature has the right to love and happiness and to live fear-free. I HAVE SO
             Huge respect and thoughts..
             Jan Graveson
y 09/19/2006 11:49:02am
             Kim
             xkizzyx@hotmail.co.uk
             England
             Total Love n Respect to you. You are all true heros! x x x x x



y 09/19/2006 8:44:28am
             sagar
             sagar_kn
             india
             Great work towards a noble cause. Why not do something about TV shows like Fear Factor where live insects are eaten !!!
             Most inhumane and repusive. I am sure an organization like yours can really do something about it.



y 09/18/2006 10:26:20pm
             bigads


              Thanks for creating a hole in the market for halibut. Now the commercials will target because they'll get a big pay day. Are
              you not bothered about all the fish washed up on the shore dead....or are they collateral damage. More thought needs to go
              into your actions. I am a conservationist but releasing farmed animals can sometimes do more harm than good.



y 09/18/2006 9:52:50pm
             Will Trawlerman
             wod1@hw.ac.uk
             The senic west coast of Scotland
             you people really need to get a life. you are terroists. you do more harm than good. im pro conservation- something ALF
             would not understand. now leave hard working local people alone. you know nothing about the marine world.



y 09/18/2006 8:40:24pm
             angelo
             famigliacerri@tele2.it
             milan, italy




y 09/18/2006 6:53:03pm
             mat the man

              wolverhampton
              grand job ur doing,wish i had a few hundred grand to fund you people,god bless you all and keep u safe in your work.x
y 09/18/2006 6:31:38pm
             phil

              scotland
              sick bastards,mink will destroy all the wild song birds and small mammals and yous fucks dont care.I BET MOST OF YOUS
              ONLY DO IT FOR A BUZZ.Most off the animals you let go end up dead .Clueless thats what yous are



y 09/18/2006 2:54:26pm
             Marta
             marta.kunc@gazeta.pl
             Staffordshire/UK
             you are my heroes. thank you for being there for animals.


y 09/18/2006 1:19:16am
             BD

              USA
              Still active and still going strong. Just dropping in to say hello. They may not be "major" actions, but they are actions none-
              the-less. It's been a couple of years since I've popped in to say hello; been busy. Too many animal abusers in the world to

              For the animals,
              BD



y 09/17/2006 9:51:00pm
              Luisa Moreno
              luisa.moreno@yahoo.co.uk
              Edinburgh
              Just a little note,
              Construction is set to begin on what will be Norways largest ever fur farm, more than 110,000 animals could be confined in
              the complex slated to be built in the Hå muncipality by a new company called Karlsvarden Naerings Park AS, the animals are
              to be kept in unbearably small cages through all weather extremities and denied everything that is natural. They are to be
              killed by gassing with hot track exhaust, anal electrocution, poisoning and broken neck. Help prevent the this monument of
              Kaldsvarden Naeringspark AS Knud Holmsgate 5
              c/o SMB securities AS Norway

              +47 51 56 44 63
              +47 51 56 44 69 (fax)
              +47 91 10 76 38 (mobile)

              post@ha.kommune.no (email)

              We are to politely ask (but i'll leave that up to your discretion lol) the Hå Muncipality legislators not to continue with this

              thanks, Luisa xx
y 09/17/2006 11:27:01am
              Miranda (panda)
              panda_miranda666@hotmail.com
              London UK
              It's crazy that there are those that are against the ALF... although those twats are obviously involved in the murder/torture of
              Direct action can & does work & saves many, many precious lives xxx



y 09/17/2006 3:58:08am
              Virginia Pishgar
              djkandie@yahoo.com
              Florida, Cocoa
              Anyone with any info on liberating animals in Florida....Email me please.:) Hugs and kissies for everyone!!!!



y 09/17/2006 2:30:03am
              Marco Pierce
              alzorn000
              Attleboro MA
              The ALF is one of the most honorable orgs there is. Keep up the awesome work... victory one way or the other



ay 09/16/2006 5:06:33am
              Chris Day
              foolshilnomore@aol.com
              Trophy Club, TX, USA
              You guys in the ALF are heroic and do things I could never do. You're an inspiration to me and I hope to someday help
              you...unless I join the P.I.R.A. first^_^



ay 09/16/2006 1:52:42am
              Didrik
              didrikws@yahoo.no
              Norway
              I love your work.But I eat meat.Cows and pigs and birds.But that must be ok.Shit, i cant stop that now!!No that must be
              allright.Survival of the fittest.Pure nature.BUT!Those animals are doing fine here.The conditions could be alot better
              offcourse.BUT!! fur and experimentation is another thing!come here and help me burn down a couple of minkfarms and

               ALF response: Have somebody read the ALF credo to you, very slowly, then you'll have your answer.



09/15/2006 11:25:37pm
             nicky donaldson

               glasgow
             I am retarded.



09/15/2006 3:26:05pm
             Miguelina

             New York
             I'm so proud of you guys!!! I just saw "Behind the Mask". Great job. God pless you all.



09/15/2006 3:20:16pm
             Loida

             Texas
             Like the SHAC 6, may you and your coherts, rot in jail.



09/15/2006 8:39:24am
             nicky donaldson

             glasgow
             I HATE YOU FUCKING PEOPLE YOU ARE TERRORISTS FUCK VEGANS FUCK EXTREMISTS

             IM AWAY TO MAKE A BACON SANDWICH



09/15/2006 3:11:45am
             Trisha
             taliesson@hotmail.com
             Australia
             Best wishes to ALF
             Great happiness always



09/15/2006 1:06:49am
             Luisa Moreno
             luisa.moreno@yahoo.co.uk
             Edinburgh, Scotland
             Love you, my heroes, words cannot describe just how important you are, ever loyal to the cause, Luisa x



ay 09/14/2006 7:05:39pm
             Nick Reeder
             nreeder@toucansurf.com
             london
             I am behind you 100%...Keep going guys and remember theres millions more.Thankyou
sday 09/13/2006 8:55:46pm
             raph
             shootinstar688@hotmail.com
             england
             hi the alf r my heoes im 18 DONT EAT MEAT IM PROUD I HATE PEOPLE WHO BRING ANY HARM TO ANIMALS
             THEY DESERVE TO DIE THE BASTARDS



sday 09/13/2006 4:41:34am
             Chris

            England
            Go back home and look at your childrens diet lungbuster. Maybe you should give them a salad now and again then they wont
            grow up to be such a meat head like their idiot dad.



sday 09/13/2006 4:21:53am
             Christina
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             I'm proud of you cat G :)



y 09/12/2006 10:36:30pm
             kayla.j


            animal testing is not right its cruel animals dont wear make-up or wash with shampoo or what have they done to u to deerve
            this u might as well just test on humans gosh.



y 09/12/2006 9:59:30pm
             Joyce Son

            USA
            ALF you guys are my hero's. When I see you taking action and saving animals, I cannot tell you how happy that makes me.



y 09/12/2006 7:12:54pm
             Cat G


            im cruelty free and happy to be! I DONT EAT MEAT AND IM ONLY 10
             ALF response: Thank you.



y 09/11/2006 9:20:03pm
             Kathleen Schormann
             kscohormann@cwcmh.org
             Yakima, WA
             YOU ROCK, ALF!



y 09/11/2006 9:41:29am
             Tim


             All experimentation on anyone should be illegal;nothing good comes out of evil.

             SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENT
             NAKED EMPRESS OR THE GREAT MEDICAL FRAUD
             1000 DOCTORS AGAINST VIVISECTION
             by HANS RUESCH

             The BRITISH ANTI VIVISECTION ASSOCIATION,sells them.

             If anyone you reads this cares about human health and the general ABOLISHING of vivisection,GET THEM!



y 09/10/2006 11:22:37pm
              ALF Supporter by proxy

             At Home
             I dont see why they feel the need to experiment on animals. Surely these experiments have no validity, we are different from
             animals. Why not experiment on asylum seekers? At least they are almost human and any results might benefit us. Please
             dont force a beagle to smoke 40 fags a day, or rub shampoo in its eyes for that matter.

             Mr Mental

             ps: My heart's in the right place, but my politics are different



y 09/10/2006 8:44:56pm
              MBG

             Switzerland
             Well done guys. At least you have a heart.



y 09/10/2006 6:17:01pm
               Payaza

               Chile- South America
               they are true heroes much luck greetings from the aim of the world


y 09/10/2006 4:09:03pm
              Ben
              bcol999@hotmail.co.uk
              UK
              Hey- i know that some of the stuff you've done has given you a bad name to some people but i think you are saviours. I
              watched the video and read stuff on how yo u rescued Britches and loads of other brutallt tortured animals. You don't
              campaign like PETA- you take action, and you're more or less the only group who does.



y 09/10/2006 3:43:34pm
              lungbuster

               PA
               I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with hunting. I am looking for a new place to hunt and figured that some of you may know a
               good place for me to deer hunt. If you know of any good places, please let know.

               Gotta run, I promised the kids I'd take them to McDonalds after we went to the circus.



y 09/10/2006 12:28:30am
              Gemma
              Gemm1nem@aol.com
              Norfolk, England
              You people are absolute heroes. It's such a shame that so few people can see that animals have as much right to life as you
              and I. The work you do is incredible and my respect for you is so great it's impossible to imagine. Although ignorant people
              may criticise your organisation for being too extreme with your methods, I and many others are 100% behind you, and know
              that whilst animals are being abused in the most vile and diabolic ways all around the world, there is no other option. Thank
              you so much for giving animals and those who care hope. I can't wait until I'm older and able to help just as you do, and fight



ay 09/09/2006 3:18:21pm
              Ally

               Scotland
               Sounds dissapointing Mr T but hopefully everybody has got the dvd and thats why they didn't go.I hope more people turn up



ay 09/09/2006 6:13:46am
              Mr.T

               USA
              OK, what gives? I went out of my way to go to the screening of "Behind the Mask" (a look at the underground world of
              ALF) in Washington, DC, Sept. 4th....

              I expected to see many Animal Rights supporters, but instead, was treated to only a hand full. A total of "7" people attended
              and two or three of them were reporters. PETA's Ingrid Newkirk was there along with some staff members from PETA. I
              think they totaled three, leaving "ME" as possibly the only outsider to attend.

              OUCH! This is no way to run an Animal Rights campaign. Shame on those who did not attend.



09/08/2006 10:29:37pm
             harpal
             harpalkaur458@hotmail.com
             birmingham
             What can I say, words cannot describe how great you guys are. It was extremeley touching to see the trailer and the pics of
             the alf with their rescued animals [which would make a great calender] you have such courage for saving these animals and i
             wish u all the sucess in the world. cant wait to watch the video, will it be screened in brum?



09/08/2006 9:03:22am
             Emily
             SlurpyGoat@yahoo.com
             CO USA
             Ever since the popularization of the word "terrorist", it seems like poeple use that word to basically say "I don't agree with
             you." Alf does not inflict terror for personal gain. If terror is inflicted, it is deserved. Some humans (especially Americans)
             are just ignorant, cocky bastards who believe everything in this world is for them to use, whether it hurts another living thing
             or not. We'll never overcome the problem of animal cruelty but working together, we can at least make it better. I envy the
             members of Alf. If I had the courage to take such actions against people that needed to be stopped, I would with pride.



ay 09/07/2006 11:08:49pm
             alexis
             xxloveexists@yahoo.com
             EW, AMERICA.
             vegetarian, becoming vegan :]
             i love this site



ay 09/07/2006 8:00:48pm
             Kelly
             rebecca_kelly1@hotmail.com
             Spain
             You do right to defend the animals rights, and dont listen to the comments of a hijo de su grandisima madre, malparido de
             mierda. When am older I want to be like you guys.
             Ciao for now
             Reb14
sday 09/06/2006 9:00:20pm
             monkey
             tothegluefactory@gmail.com
             UK
             Stop trying to love my dog you darn animal lovers.Hitlists?cells? if it sounds like terrorism it probably is...join the army

              ALF: Are you a member in good standing of the "army fuckers"?



sday 09/06/2006 4:15:00pm
             Jamie
             jamiemcfalls@verizon.net
             texas
             The animals do speak, their screams of pain is clear enough language for me



sday 09/06/2006 4:43:48am
             Stephanie
             earth.first@yahoo.com
             California
             you're my heroes.
             thank you for all you do.
             :D



sday 09/06/2006 1:58:09am
             Anon

              web proxy
              1 ALF response: 1. Posting information that tells people not to take their animal to someone with a record of abuse is not a

              So it it not a hit list “the way it was worded like Oh this heartless serial killer-torturer of innocent animals must be stopped by
              any means necassry he keeps getting away with this abberant sickening behavior again & again, and hes just the same as a
              CHILD MOLESTER...just as bad, and just as unrepentant & incurable!!! help!!!!!” is not a polite warning in saying oh you
              should not take your pets here. Btw she missed out the word NAZI out somewhere.

              2. The ALF credo does not condone hurting any sentient being, so how could we have a "hit list?"

              Your right the ALF credo does not condone hurting any sentient being but as you have no members only supporters and have
              many a time said that supporters can use the name “ALF” on actions that follow this guideline this is rather a straw man
              the guidelines and not claim them on behalf of the ALF. But as the note said that he moves often and
              I’m sure this data is worthless now and lately AR supports have had a habit of messing up things. Firebombs at the wrong
              addresses etc etc. So while you may not have any official “hit lists” you can still post names and address and let third person

              3. Jane, and anyone else, can place information in guestbooks all over the internet. This guestbook is not on the ALF website,
              nor is it owned or maintained by the same people who maintain the website. It's only connection to the website is a link. You
              may link to it from your site, too. Then you can turn yourself in to the police.
              Your right the guestbook is not in the ALF website but by a third party website. But hey you forget to mention that ALF
              webmasters do edit the posts on here. Now I don’t know if Ann Berlin (sp) is still
              a webmaster of the ALF but she has edited quiet a few post here and I would of thought having an ALF
              guestbook that is linked from the ALF site and not edited by the ALF webmasters is rather foolish.

              4. If linking to this guestbook makes you nervous, then the fact that the ALF site links to Pet-abuse.com should really have
              you worried. Click on the link to see if your name is there.

              You right it very does make me nervous that, I’ll be even more nervous if the name anon was on, as this would show that the
              owners of the website are more foolish than they are.

              5. The case mentioned in the post is already posted elsewhere on the Internet and can be viewed here

              Your right but the ALF as you have quoted is a more direct action group and people who like that
              kind of thing are more likely to come here and by showing from your forums there seems to be a lot of hatefulness to these
              people and hatefulness is always a good motivation towards doing something stupid.

              ALF response: You are correct, there is risk, although based on history it is a smaller risk than most of our daily activities.

              In this guestbook and in the ALF discussion forum, all comments and opinions are allowed, including opinions like the
              opinion below that says we are terrorists. Allowing people to say they hate us may cause others to get angry at animal rights
              activists and one of us may get hurt. Like you said, sometimes people get stupid.



sday 09/06/2006 1:38:54am
             lucy
             sexy_lucyb@hotmail.com
             australia
             hey ... well i am truely inspired by the ALF,, lol i dont know why people are calling you terrorosts for.. i think there the sick
             ones .. after researching testing, battery hens, the meat industry etc,, how can a human being look into an animals innocent
             eyes and do this? also watching live footage shocked me , we need to get this shown to people,, these people calling you
             terrorists are sick in the mind and iggnorent and are living in a selfish way. they care for no1 but them selfs. is the ALF in
             australia as i would love to join and be a 'terrorist'.. saving animals is far from terrorising anything??? doing these things to
             i really respect you guys (ALF). i am an animal lover and feel passionate about animal rights. keep going..and ignore the
             ignorent sick minded people of this world.. wat has the woerld come to??

              from lucy aged 16.



y 09/05/2006 11:40:55pm




              You guys are terrorists.

              ALF response: You've hurt my feelings. What about us girls? Don't we count?



y 09/05/2006 9:28:32pm
              stefro
              stefanparkholme@yahoo.co.uk
              London
              You sad, evil people. What about saving the human? People are dying and you lot go about digging up a scientists mothers
              grave, just because they are trying to help the human race.

              ALF response:

              1. If it would save an animal's life I would dig up my own mother's grave.

              2. I don't think anyone has dug up a scientist's mother's grave. You might want to get the whole story before drawing

              Stefro: I think you lot are pretty much the scum of the earth, just as bad as terrorists, rapists and homophobes.

              ALF response: You forgot "Nazi's".

              Stefro: The day your organisation dies, the dau this world gets a whole lot better.

              ALF: We're not an organization, we're a philosophy that believes animals shouldn't be treated as property. In the history of
              mankind there haven't been any global civil rights movements that have gone backwards. Dream all you want, we're not

              Stefro: Animal testing helps save lives

              ALF: There is much un-refuted data from respected physicians that conclude the contrary.

              Stefro: meat-eating has got mankind where we are today.

              ALF response: Meat-eating, aggression towards others, and many other characteristics involved in the evolution of man are
              no longer necessary. We have laws against many of the characteristics that "got man where he is today".

              Stefro: Yes, I am a meat-eating, left-wing, pro-testing kind-of-guy, and

              ALF: I deleted the concluding ad-hominems and in doing such make Stefro seem more mature. I'm sure he'll want to thank



y 09/05/2006 7:49:58pm
             Fali

              Los Angeles
              Thank you for caring and for the time and effort you dedicate to giving a voice to the voiceless and helping innocent
              creatures who need your help. Thank you all for trying to make this a better world.



y 09/05/2006 5:40:29am
             KATIE
             jeffsbestfriend@hotmail.com
             ireland
             good work on the site keep it up
             are there many alf cells in ireland?
             i really want to join !!!!!!!!!
y 09/05/2006 4:45:37am
             Anon
             Anon
             Web proxy
             Dear Sir/Madam

            In reference to the post

            Monday 09/04/2006 7:05:19am Name: jane weems E-Mail: jane.weems@mchsi.com Location: lakeport, california, usa

            I thought it was ALF polity not to post hit lists on there website. Although no matter how bad a crime this person has
            committed I can see some over zealous animal rights supporter over stepping the mark and plus wanting revenge and plus
            this could lead to lead to innocence endangerment of life for the person in question and/or any mistaken persons in this area.

            ALF response: 1. Posting information that tells people not to take their animal to someone with a record of abuse is not a hit

            2. The ALF credo does not condone hurting any sentient being, so how could we have a "hit list?"

            3. Jane, and anyone else, can place information in guestbooks all over the internet. This guestbook is not on the ALF website,
            nor is it owned or maintained by the same people who maintain the website. It's only connection to the website is a link. You
            may link to it from your site, too. Then you can turn yourself in to the police.

            4. If linking to this guestbook makes you nervous, then the fact that the ALF site links to Pet-abuse.com should
            really have you worried. Click on the link to see if your name is there.

            5. The case mentioned in the post is already posted elsewhere on the Internet and can be viewed here



y 09/05/2006 4:32:49am
             Netanya

            USA
            Watch your legislators! Certain members of Congress are closing in and establishing laws by using fear tactics for their
            introduction of bills which would limit freedom of speech, freedom to protest - and offering protection for animal abusers
            operating under the guise of Industrialized Factory Farms, wherein animals suffer and grow abnormally with the use of
            steroid growth hormones, damaging the animal's normal body tissues and bones. Check out the Animal Enterprise Terroism
            Act, aimed straight at ALF. protest this bill, or lose the freedom to protest these corporate animal abuses and research labs



y 09/04/2006 10:37:31pm
             HEATHER
             heather@equine22.freeserve.co.uk
             scotland, uk
              AS AN ANIMAL LOVER AND VERY MUCH INTO ANIMAL WELFARE, WHETHER ITS A RABBIT OR A HORSE.
              THEY STILL HAVE FEELINGS, OF PAIN SUFFERING, SADNESS AND PLEASURE. I ABSOLUTELY
              WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE a.l.f. AND I BELIEVE THEY USE TACTICS THAT ARE
              SUCCESSFUL,INSTED OF PUSSY FOOTING AROUND, LIKE SOME AGENCIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
              SUPPORTING THE ANIMAL AND PREVENTING CRUELTY. I DO HOPE THAT THE LIVE TRANSPORTATION
              FEAR, THE PAIN, THEY EDURE WATCHING THEIR COMPANIONS DIE BEFORE THEM. WE LIVE IN A



y 09/04/2006 7:01:48pm
             gorge

              tenn
              these people wont post any thing that is sold info stright from the bible. i proved them wrong and thay wont post it



y 09/04/2006 6:12:32pm
             mark chadwick
             chadfloyd1974@hotmail.com
             paighton,devon,uk
             i would like to here from anyone in my areawho is active, that could help me get involved with helping these poor! animals



y 09/04/2006 9:38:40am
             george

              Tenn.
              well since yall did not post my last comments. ill just have to say the part that i no for a fact is true. in responce to the alf's
              comments to kill more deer about how God said thou shalt not kill but he dident specify what. what about the part where he
              talks about killing the fatted calf. it also states that you may kill any thing with split hoof, or chews cud, so what now bitches,
              or maby im not reading the same bible yall read. yall are terrorist so maby you read the same bible the terrorist had with them
              on 9/11 the quran! alf responder please dont speek about subjucts your not fulley educated about!!! keep these bitches on



y 09/04/2006 8:37:20am
             Salvatore Messina
             salmessina@alice.it
             36078 Valdagno - Italy
             La grandezza di una nazione e il suo
             progresso morale si possono giudicare
             dal modo in cui tratta gli animali

              Gandhi (1869-1948)


y 09/04/2006 7:05:19am
             jane weems
             jane.weems@mchsi.com
             lakeport, california, usa
               warning! convicted animal abuser shon rahrig has moved to long beach, california.he uses craigs list, animal adoption fares,
               and shelters to obtain his victims for gruesome torture.he has done this for years, and moves across the country when the
               locals learn too much.in addition to probation for his horrible continuing crimes against any free to good home animals he
               can find, he was ordered that he could never own another living creature,& had to attend mandatory counseling, he just left &
               moved to a new place where he could start all over again!!!he blinds kittens, breaks their bones, cuts off their feet. he pleaded
               guilty to animal cruelty, but the judge agreed he was sane.as of april 2006 he was known to live at:5901 east ocean blvd, unit
               D ,long beach, california. 90803he now has a dog walking buisness there, and was recently spotted at an adoption event in
               the area.please keep in mind that a person who will repeatedly move to keep torturing animals will likley go to any lengths to



y 09/04/2006 5:42:52am
             rrIGHT
             i_b_a_writer@yahoo.com
             US
             Animal rights activists are glorified terrorists. You know what I find amusing, is that animals eat each other all the time, and
             animals who are strictly plant eaters are prey for those who aren't. Animals die painful deaths in the wild. Many of the higher
             intelligence species have structured societies which behave similar in many ways to our own. There are struggles for
             hierarchy, brutality, kidnappings, outcasts, and murders. Many animal rights websites offer their readers the suggestion that
             animals be allowed to live a peaceful life in the wild, which seems such an oxymoron. Have any of them ever watched a
             wildlife program? Animals’ lives in the wild are dreadfully difficult at best. They do not live in peace. Most of their days are
             a struggle for survival. BTW what do they do with the animal they do free? If they are released into the wild it seems that the



y 09/03/2006 10:46:32pm
              Tolly
              tolly.mullon@ntlworld.com
              England
              What's with all the ANGRY redneck hunting dude's lately? I'm glad none of them are from my neck of the woods, talk about
              stuck in time! Hunting is about power - A bit like men with big cars - they are usually lacking something if you get my drift.
              It takes one dumb animal to kill another for personal gain. ALF Forever!



y 09/03/2006 8:44:59pm
              Chris

               England
               A comment to the moron who calls himself kill more deer eatmorewildlife@gmail.com What an asshole you are. What
               makes wildlife any different from your pets? They still feel the same pain. Why are you even on this site ? Is it just to slag off
               the fantastic work the ALF do? Please just go away you Animal killer.
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y 09/03/2006 11:12:06am
             kill more deer
             eatmorewildlife@gmail.com
             Polk County Florida
             First off All the animals i care for My Hunting Dog (a britney : trevor is his name). Two cats and a pet duck are in no danger
             of ever being harmed or abused. nor any domesticated animals in my neighborhood. I just hate that you people are blind to
             the fact that hunters and fishermen founded this great country that you live in and now there are groups trying to outlaw
             hunting and fishing.

              ALF response: Although I doubt that being a fisherman had anything to do with founding any country, in the US slave
              owners founded the country. That doesn't mean it's still morally acceptable today.

              Killmore: would you rather me be out selling drugs to our kids so they are more easily brain washed in our schools by
              organizations like kind and others who give the teachers lesson plans that make hunters out to be bad cruel people who kill
              animals for the fun of it of? course you would.

              ALF: Are you saying your choice is to kill animals or to sell drugs to kids for a living? What are the drugs? Have you been
              taking them? Can you sell them to adults?

              Killmore: I'll tell you something if it was'nt for all of the rabbits that live in my area, a few years ago me and my family
              would have had to go hungry a few nights a week.

              ALF response: Most minimum wage jobs pay more than hunting, and they aren't a gamble. If you wanted security for your
              family you would work. There are always choices. Now you can sell your computer. You're not really using it wisely to
              benefit your family.

              Killmore: God put these animals here for a reason people. Not to be abused but for food to keep us from going hungry.

              ALF response: God said "Thou shalt not kill." He didn't say "thou shalt not murder" (which would mean other men), and he
              didn't specify men. If you're saying God is a lousy writer or "just kidding" then why accept anything else he wrote?


              Killmore: And ill be damned

              ALF response: correct

              Killmore: if im going to eat only veggies. People by nature are hunters, it's in my blood and yours, all of us are hunters by
              nature.

              ALF response: We have many articles on our website written by scholars (not animal activists) that show that man is not a
              natural meat eater, nor a natural hunter. Read them and refute them if you care too. But your premise is incorrect.

              Killmore: Im in total aggreance that animals should not be mistreated or abused. but the fact is that i would rather see a
              monkey given a drug first before a human any day. Human life is way more important.

              ALF response: If you care about humans you would demand that the drug companies stop doing bogus tests on animals and
              then declaring that their drugs are safe for humans. They are not. The tests on animals are absolutely meaningless, and their
              are better tests that can be done.

              Killmore: Ps. I fear greatly for your KIDS.and all the others out there who never had a dad or grandpa who has showed them
              how to respect and live off the land they live on. Have a good day all you crazy alf people
y 09/03/2006 1:31:34am
             Pat
             spc.oconnor@hotmail.com
             Canada



day 09/02/2006 9:03:10am
              will
              badbasswill@aol.com
              Campbellsville Ky
              Disclaimer: The Animal Liberation Press Officers do not engage in illegal activities, nor do they know any individuals who
              do. Rather, the Press Office receives and posts communiqués from anonymous parties and provides comment to the
              media........ tisk tisk tisk, my wiseley little friends. sounds like to me you all support terrorism by glorifying illegal actions
              takin by others. sitting in an office some where not making people do illegal things, but saying if you burn down a building
              and maybe kill someone in the process hay its ok as long as we free a few lab rats( that will be killed by a trap, or a cat as
              soon as it enters someones house)It is so stupid of you people to risk jail time over a stupid lab rat.




day 09/02/2006 8:03:05am
              Kristy Cohrs
              Cohrsey_kristy@hotmail.com
              Victoria, Australia
              It deeply saddens and amazes me that some humans feel that animals dont have feelings and are not equal. How can people
              do such terrible things? Thankyou to ALF for being active. I have in the past been a volunteer for other animal organisations
              but felt they were talkin but not takin enough action. Well done for standing up and fighting to make some kind of difference.
              I am a vegetarian who would like to become a vegan but cant cook and dont know whats involved so if anyone could help me
              out that would be great, i live in a country town so its hard! I would also like to hear from anyone in australia who is actively
              involved in ALF and can give me some tips on getting started. Ive only just found out about your organisation on a recent
              holiday in melbourne where i passed to boys wearing homemade ALF t-shirts and eating vegan food. I want to devote my life
              to making a difference to the treatment of animals. Thanks!!




day 09/02/2006 6:23:02am
              kill more deer
              eatmorewildlife@gmail.com
              Polk County Florida
              I love animals, I kill them, eat them, and where their skins. fuck alf and all other organizations that support anti-hunting/ anti-
              gun laws and i'll be damn if i ever stop hunting fishing or shooting pass the the laws.

               ALF response: I fear deeply for your pets.



y 09/01/2006 10:52:12pm
               jasmine daiuto
               daiutojasmine23@aol.com
               albany ny
               keep up the good work! lets free our friends!



y 09/01/2006 7:33:19am
              DARLENE ATCHLEY
              dbatchley@comcast.net
              usa
              bravo to you, for all the animals, they need a savior. we must all do our part no matter how big or small. it is the HUMAN
              thing to do.



day 08/31/2006 6:00:07am
             Christina
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             To Dlaing22@aol.com Have you actually seen what goes on in a lab? I bet you ain't. C.



esday 08/30/2006 9:05:53pm
             Ewan
             explosive_amp@hotmail.co.uk
             UK
             New Web layout looking good.

               ALF!



esday 08/30/2006 5:50:00pm
             Janey L.
             Dlaing22@aol.com
             Miami, FL
             ~Sigh~ As a caring person who just wants legal reform and laws against animal suffering I really don't know what to make of
             the ALF. I fully agree that animal abuse is an unmitigated, shockingly intense and infuriatingly ignored issue. I care for all
             things in this world without voices but animal abuse is particulary disturbing and sad.
             Yet, a large part of the animal welfare movement is communicating and getting others to understand the problem. The ALF's
             militant tactics kind of reinforce the ever-popular notion that all animal activists are seriously weird and dangerous
             psychopaths who care about animals more than human beings.
             I do applaud some of your efforts to expose the nightmarish cruelty that goes on behind closed doors. Still, there has to be a
             more civilized way to do things.



esday 08/30/2006 5:33:48pm
             SUZANNE
              SKIPTON, ENGLAND
              DEDICATED TO ALL VISITING THE ALF WEBSITE, WHO DO NOT HAVE THE FIRST IDEA OF WHO MAKES
              UP THE ALF.
              I MYSELF AM IN FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT, I HAVE A PRIVATE PENSION SCHEME, I ALSO HAVE SHARES. I
              ALSO FULLY SUPPORT THE ALF IN ALL ITS ACTIVITES, DO NOT ASSUME THAT ALL ALF MEMBERS ARE
              EITHER ON THE DOLE OR HIPPIES. WE COVER ALL AGE RANGES AND BACKGROUNDS, THE ONLY
              COMMON THREAD WE HAVE IS AN ABILITY TO THINK FOR OURSELVES AND NOT TO BELIEVE ANY OLD
              DRIVEL SPOUTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE AND THE COURAGE AND DEDICATION TO FIGHT ALL AND
              ANY ANIMAL ABUSE. I EXTEND THIS FRAME OF THINKING TO CHILDREN AND ANY OTHER BEING THAT
              IS VUNERABLE.



esday 08/30/2006 5:19:29am
             Sarah

              New Zealand land of the long white cloud
              the alf is so fantasic, what you do is incrediable. (unlike my spelling)



esday 08/30/2006 4:28:12am
             beth
             do_the_boogie345@yahoo.com
             california, usa
             Your work is beautiful. There is no word I can use to tell you how much I respect and look up to all of you and everyone that
             takes a stand for others.
             Thank you for having a heart! i send my love.



ay 08/29/2006 9:46:51pm
             Angelitta
             Kelaa_73@yahoo.co.uk
             Belgium
             May Allah bless u people for all the actions u do for these poor animals. I've been doing some volunteer work online for
             another organisation who cares for animals, i became vegan like 16 years ago, but i can do more....
             If there is some way i Can help u guys... ALF keep on doing the good work.



ay 08/29/2006 8:27:54pm
             Spino
             flipflop[at]altervista.org
             Rome

              hey guys, this page is a great (and amusing) work (http://animalliberationfront.com/News/2005_8/KFCProt_NYC.htm)!
              and a great idea also: this is a very effective contro-marketing move!
              I've immediately linked the entire story on my stupid site (http://flipflop.altervista.org/extraHome.htm), but I believe we have
              to imitate this action. this is easy but very powerful... those amusing faces speak a lot!
ay 08/29/2006 6:31:12am
             Meaghan
             DarkTranquillity66613@yahoo.com
             Alabama
             anyone here from the Birmingham Alabama area that cares about animal rights and wants to do something about it or knows
             of a group in my area that already is?



ay 08/28/2006 7:48:47pm
             Jurgen

              Belgium
              I saw something about you guys on belgian tv! That's great what you guys are doing! I have myself adopted a dog, it's not a
              big thing compared to what you do but at least this one is back into a normal dog life. If at least every person in the world
              would save or help one animal, the world would be very better today! Go ahead with your action!!



ay 08/28/2006 4:57:25pm




              In Tar Heel, North Carolina there is a slaugherhouse that kills 30,000 pigs a day. That is 11 million pigs every year.
              It is the largest and most advanced killing center the world has ever seen.



ay 08/28/2006 2:59:23pm
             ALF


              Visit http://www.sarconline.co.uk/ they are in your area and very active.



ay 08/28/2006 11:21:06am
             Massimo
             zikiti@gmail.com
             ITALY- Milano
             God bless the A.L.F. !!!!!!!!!!



ay 08/28/2006 9:04:38am
             Katia
             catya79@luukku.com
             Hellsinki, Finland
             I think you`re great! Do you people have pets?
             I have 2chinchillas, one of them I saved from ########### I can`t tell you, butt I swear that she will never ever have to feel
             pain and she is very happy.
             Lots of kisses to ALF and evr!
             www.elaintenvapautus.net



ay 08/28/2006 4:52:59am
             Christina
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             To aiden.klassen@gmail.com You do not have a clue about the ALF so go away you imbecile. Oh you might have to look
             that word up. I wouldn't bother replying Co's we really don't wanna know from clueless people like you.



ay 08/28/2006 4:34:02am
             Christina
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             England
             Just wanted to say to the Idiot that was slagging off the ALF. Elcordobes@hotmail.com GO AWAY YOU IGNORANT
             ASSHOLE AND COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE EDUCATED.



y 08/27/2006 6:56:36pm
             mark chadwick
             chadfloyd1974@hotmail.com
             england,devon.
             please can you give me guidence and support to do more in my area!!!!many thanks

             ALF: Hopefully you'll find everything you need on our website.



y 08/27/2006 6:51:57pm
             mark chadwick
             chadfloyd1974@hotmail.com
             england,devon.
             god bless the a.f.l


y 08/27/2006 5:05:59pm
             anon

             earth
             the use of baloclavas conveys a negative image, although I am not against you in principle, I feel your image alienates people
             from your cause



y 08/27/2006 3:24:53pm
             Maria
               Italy
               Thank you ALF for everything you do for all animals and for saving innocent lives.
               You are great people.



y 08/27/2006 5:40:45am
             Jonathan
             JWiggz08@verizon.net
             Philadelphia
             can someone please give me a way to contact a liberation group in philadelphia who actually takes action to free animals
             from storews, agricultural schools, shops, produce plants etc.....



day 08/26/2006 11:19:35pm
              Aidan
              aidan.klassen@gmail.com
              Winnipeg, MB
              You guys are fucking fanatics, it's real funny shit I hear coming out of your mouths. Keep up with the hilarity. EAT
              ANIMALS 4 LYFE!



day 08/26/2006 6:50:01pm
              camouflage


               Netease.
               is a chinese internet service that shows animal crush pictures.
               its seems that this is a new hobby for these shitty chinese girls/woman. Netease don´t remove these pictures ( since
               march2006 online).
               i cant believe what they do....
               i saw so much cruelty from this fucking land...but this...all i feel is hate.

               AFL: you do a good job, please keep it up.



day 08/26/2006 5:54:44pm
              Patricia Baker
              patriciabaker@hotmail.com
              Newfoundland, Canada
              If I lived close enough...I would join you...its shocking...poor innocent animals...



day 08/26/2006 3:16:15pm
              kayla
              kaylaintexas@yahoo.com
              texas
              you guys are great i wish i could help as much as you guys do keep it up
y 08/25/2006 8:47:59pm
              Diana
              oo7diana@yahoo.com
              Winnipeg, Canada
              God bless you for all you have done to help animals. I think ALF is so selfless, putting their own freedom on the line to help
              save beings that are so innocent and kind. These wonderful beings that have to suffer cruel pain at the hands of sadistic
              humans. Thank you for all you have done and keep on doing it!



day 08/24/2006 8:47:52pm
             nelie

               the netherlands
               Thank you!! For the things you do!! For doing the right thing. For not giving up!! For being a voice for the ones who can't
               talk for themselves!

               Just thanks!!



day 08/24/2006 8:01:40pm
             Rosie
             Ina1@dekarre.zzn.com

               I would like to thank you people for being on this planet. I just wish I could be of any importance to your organisation. I am a
               GAIA-member, but merely that membership cannot give me satisfaction. Animal misery makes me so mad I would like to
               burn down the whole abusive system (in my mind) just for some relief.



day 08/24/2006 7:25:13pm
             Mr Chuckle Trousers
             elwoody@sbcglobal.net
             Texas
             This is fucking awesome. Thank God someone is actually doing something. All I can do is hand out leaflets and stickers. Let
             me know if there is something I can do here in Fort Worth.



day 08/24/2006 4:20:52pm
             epona


               I live very close to the Inveresk Research centre in East lothian Scotland,Has there been any action taken against them, if not
               will there be? Even protests,I would like to take part!
day 08/24/2006 4:19:07pm
             hattie

              England
              You, John Smith, you are the SCUMBAG not ALF. All decent minded people in this country applaud ALF's efforts - there
              are far too many sick, twisted, evil bastards out there and from what ALF say about your website, you are one of them - perv!




day 08/24/2006 12:47:51am
             Marianne
             LouGibsy@aol.com
             germany
             Hello and congrat to this page and your work. Please keep up the awesome work you do. Thank you.

              greetings from Germany

              www.mensch-tier-technik.foren-city.de



day 08/24/2006 12:23:08am
             NON SOAP DODGER

              HUNTINGTON
              Fuck me you lads must be well hard eh!
              Digging up peoples graves then harassing OAP's!?? Wankers! the lot of you! love to see you try that out side my gaff

              pricks!



day 08/24/2006 0:36:37am




              HAHA way to call out that pervert John Smith. What a loser!



esday 08/23/2006 11:40:05pm
             Fábio
             fabiobveg@gmail.com
             Brazil
             I am brazilian and I want to congratulate the work of ALF. I wish I could do something here in Brazil. But people on this
             country are not so smart.
             Brazil don´t deserve the brazilians.

              ALF response: You find some pretty cool Brazilians on this page: Brazil
esday 08/23/2006 10:47:39pm
             EL Cordobes
             Elcordobes@hotmail.com
             Spain
             What a bunch of saddos.. digging up dead grannys is about as sick as it gets .. Fuck you I hope you choke on a nut cutlet..




esday 08/23/2006 9:27:48pm
             John Smith
             jsmith@hotmail.com
             UK
             You are all twisted and evil and have ruined by your actions any good points that the normal citizens of our country would
             have credited you with.
             After the evil, vindictive, atrocious acts you people have performed "in the name of your cause" you need to close the ALF
             down and take yourselves away from normal, decent people.
             Let's see if you let this one be displayed in your Guestbook or delete it so visitors can't see what the real decent people of this
             land think about the scum you are!

               ALF response: Yes, we need a lecture from the "real decent people of this land" i.e. someone who dispenses free porn video
               over the internet. A quick google of your email address brings up:

               video porno free (jsmith@hotmail.com) - Mon Aug 14 20:35:32 2006
               and then contact info.

               Thanks, but we'll look elsewhere for lessons in morality.



esday 08/23/2006 7:36:47pm
             epona
             epona666@btinternet.com
             edinburgh
             please please tell me you can get a hold of the sick people that make those crush videos, I was on an animal rights site and
             this video was on it of a puppy getting crushed by some evil woman with high heels on,I have witnessed a lot of videos partly
             why I am vegetarian going vegan.
             These people need to be punished, Igot into trouble before for swearing on site so I won,t but something HAS to be done.


               ALF response: There are Animal Rights folks trying to stop crush videos.



esday 08/23/2006 3:06:11pm
             Babs Griffiths
             bbzassociates@btconnect.com
             London
             Why is everyone so quiet regarding the cruel Muslim and Jewish method of slaughter? Forget fishermen and go and visit
             some of these slaughterhouses if you care about animal welfare
              ALF response: You'll find links to articles about religion and vegetarianism here:
              http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Practical/Shop--ToDo/Religion/Religion4ARAs-Index.htm

              There are articles on the cruelty of kosher slaughter.



esday 08/23/2006 1:49:00am
             Christina
             smilestocure@yahoo.co.uk
             North of England
             I have always loved animals since I can remember. My Mom brought me up as a vegan. I had so many pets as a child (free
             range) and I would always bring in injured animals. I still do it now (I am 28) I have just passed my exams in animal care but
             It's not enough I NEED to see a stop to animal suffering. It breaks my heart to see such cruelty. It's not right and I want to do
             something about it. I campaign In my town every week but people seem to be so ignorant. I just want to help. Why should
             Animals suffer for humanity? I will always fight for the animals till the day I die. I just hope one day people realise that
             Animals feel as much pain as we do. C.



ay 08/22/2006 11:28:35pm
             melissa

              Portland
              http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060811/NEWS/608110317

              Maybe they'd like to get some mail while they're incarcerated for beating a dog with a baseball bat (causing brain damage).




ay 08/22/2006 9:52:44pm
             Gemma
             www.myspace.com/g0mmy
             Birmingham
             I'll be there, Saturday 9th September.

              :]



ay 08/22/2006 1:29:22pm
             Ace

              essex
              You guys have changed my veiws on animals forever u guys rock !!!!!!!


ay 08/22/2006 0:40:50am
             Ali Welshwoman

              London
              J.Black, Hi, have an urgent read of Henry David Thoreau's seminal essay 'Civil Disobedience' - quick!



ay 08/22/2006 0:30:37am
             Susan
             kroll_404@yahoo.com
             Pinckneyville,IL
             Never,Never,Never Give UP!!



ay 08/21/2006 9:07:00pm
             steve

              west mids
              God bless you alf, stay strong.



ay 08/21/2006 5:52:24pm
             mari
             aquariusmari4@yahoo.com
             dallas, TX
             Keep Up the AWESOME work u do for the voiceless!



ay 08/21/2006 5:37:30pm
             PERRAULT ANS
             ansperrault@hotmail.com
             BELGIUM
             Hi, great job you are all doing here at ALF. People from Belgium, email me so we can get together and make a change for
             the animals!!!



ay 08/21/2006 3:45:42pm
             Pete
             w1ndmeup@cox.net
             USA
             I have been a vegetarian for about 4 years now and i have been a huge supporter of the ALF i was just wondering where i
             might be able to purchase a t-shirt with the Animal Liberation Front symbol on it .

              ALF response: We don't sell anything, nor do we pay much attention to the best outlets for purchasing things. We're open to
              suggestions. Here are two that we've heard about:

              http://www.animalrightsmerchandise.com/

              http://www.rootsofcompassion.org/
ay 08/21/2006 3:19:24pm
             Mitzy

              usa
              To my dismay I read Donald Currie has been caught in the UK. I was so looking forward to his next bombing with
              heightened anticipation of him being the first ALF activist to draw blood in this campaign. The animals have lost a great
              freedom fighter.



ay 08/21/2006 12:34:46am
             SUZANNE

              ENGLAND
              COVANCE!!!!!
              This laboratory is situated in HARROGATE, NORTH YORKSHIRE, the workers have a nasty habit of abusing monkeys,
              (SEE PETA WEBSITE), PLEASE will somebody have the guts to take this place on. All mainstream groups are ignoring it,
              even seemingly ALF. WHY?



ay 08/21/2006 8:34:18am
             josh

              infront of computer
              keep up the good work. free all those poor animals getting tortured and if any scientist gets in your way just knock him
              out.........YOU ROCK ALF



ay 08/21/2006 6:22:20am
             Gen
             genevieve_n54@yahoo.com
             USA
             I was watching the mission statement video that you provided for intrested individuals. I saw an activist with a AFL hoodie
             on, I am wondering how I can get one. If you are able to direct me where I can get one that would be great. Keep on fighting
             and taking the corporations down.



y 08/20/2006 7:56:40pm
             Mark

              West Midlands, UK
              Excellent resource... In troubled times were we are ALL victims to the perverted perusal of Blair and Bush's Big Brother
              state, there is a strong liklihood that my very presence on this webpage is un observation... if that is the case then FUCK
              YOU animal exploiters... ALF, keep up the struggle



y 08/20/2006 5:38:32pm
               Craig Garside
               craig.garside@ntlworld.com
               England
               I just want to say I think that you guys do a fantastic job, not only do you protest, you actually risk your lives and freedom to
               save these poor animals in labs.
               I am totally against any kind of animal testing, no matter what they are testing for and this must be put to a stop NOW!!!!!!

               Keep up the good work, and I will be supporting you forever.



y 08/20/2006 11:48:56am
             Kurt Ison
             viper_viking89@hotmail.com
             Australia
             ALF! You guys rock! Im so glad theirs people out there willing to take action against these bastards. Id like to thank
             everyone in ALF you guys are mad. I get so much enjoyment out of watching you rescue those animals. And when you
             destroy those labs and employees homes. Keep it up guys.

               From Down Under - Keep Fighting!



day 08/19/2006 11:06:46pm
              mbailey
              myrbailey@aol.com
              usa
              Thank you for all that you do for animals. I know that you do not want to break laws, but I knowthat animals are so cruelly
              abused by many universities and the abuse is so insulated so that no one really takes responsibility that it sometimes takes
              just doing the right thing....which is removing the animals from an abusive atomosphere immediately. Again, thank you for
              your kindness.



day 08/19/2006 10:33:41pm
              Jackie

               England
               I admire the work and commitment you put into saving animals. I feel very strongly about these issues and am in full support
               of the continuing work to stop animal abuse and slavery in non violent ways.



day 08/19/2006 6:47:49pm
              rocky neptun
              rocky@riseup.net
              San Diego, Ca. / Baja, Mexico
              For almost 37 years, I have humbly been a vegetarian and a supporter of animal rights. When I gave up corporate anti-life
              actvities (almost 20 years ago)to become a gardener and landscaper, the local paper did an interview, featuring my quote that
              I like animals, plants and people - in that order.
              Anyhooo...any animal rights or Earth liberationists coming to San Diego who want help visiting the city - or nieghboring
              Mexico (where I live, part of the week, with my Mexican lover and his cat) please e-mail me.
             in peace and love....rocky



day 08/19/2006 4:33:44am
              S

             usa
             "If the ARM starts threatening lives, the ALF may gain fans."

             OK, seems I've missed something. ALF condemns the "blood lust" perpetrated by hunters to animals...but would condone the
             "blood lust" if perpetrated by activists towards humans. Do you really want this kind of fan base?

             ALF response: You are correct -- you missed something. The ALF credo does not permit harming any sentient being. The
             Animal Rights Militia (ARM) does condone violence as a tactic. Therefore, in the hypothetical scenario mentioned, ALF
             "fans" might be those who appreciate this difference.



day 08/19/2006 0:14:04am
              J Black

             comp
             Well, i guess we can certainly agree on one thing; that the world's media is endemically lazy in its reporting of events. Or
             rather that it is motivated by money rather than a desire to give factual reporting and will, therefore, happily focus on the
             simple sensationalist approach, leaving well alone of asking important questions of our governments, as it may possibly
             affect their license renewal etc...

             A few months ago, a man in manchester was shown on the news having his head bounced of the back of a policevan by...
             Two officers in uniform. despite the fact that the van's registration was clearly visible and the use of force being obviously
             inappropriate, we were told that there was a lack of evidence and no prosecutions would be made.

             No-one ever asked in public why the police didn't simply look at the roster for the van, the news dropped the story pretty
             swiftly and the police never released a statement. How then then can this clear and outrageous abuse be exposed and
             neccessary actions taken? By breaking into the police headquarters and finding out the facts for yourself?


             It is the duty of the people to watch the world that they live in, and it is the duty of the media to listen to us and to ask those
             awkward questions on our behalf. After all, if they won't listen to us, who will?

             As a reference to the Vietnam war, i believe that the majority of protests were peaceful and attracted far more media and
             press attention than, say, the actions of the Chicano Moratorium rally of 1970 which, while garnering alot of coverage, is
             remembered nowadays as an uneccessary tragedy. Is this not an example of how peaceful means can triumph even in war,
             and that violent means, no matter how effective in the short term, will always leave a lamentable legacy.


             ALF: My father, and several Vietnam vets who post in the ALF forum, remember that peaceful protests had no effect until
             after the violent ones. In a similar vein they remember that they paid no attention to Mr. Luther King until Malcolm X came
             onto the scene -- then they started praising Mr. King. If the ARM starts threatening lives, the ALF may gain fans.
y 08/18/2006 7:47:37pm
              J.Black
              Jester.black@spamavoidingfalsebit.gmail.com
              back in front of a computer
              Thank you ALF for a sensible riposte to my comments.

              The main point i was trying to make (although i mis-termed it as 'brainwashing') is that many people take what they see at
              face value; due in no small part to the quality and bias of the media.

              I would like to think that the 'exposition of horror and atrocities behind closed doors' could be exposed by investigative
              journalism or some other passive method rather than the no-going-back-now methods extolled on this site.


              This is the reason after all, that society in general looks down on vigilantes; a knee-jerk response is almost always to the
              detriment of all people involved. As an example, any firm suffering financial harm at the hands of the ALF is more than
              likely to simply uproot and move elsewhere but still continue with it's experiments. This will lose business for our
              government who, wrongly, will simply push the cost of this onto the taxpayers. Who benefits now?

              I'm not trying to say that companies that exploit animals are in the right. Simply that anyone who willing goes against what
              the majority of society believes in (i.e. our laws and legal system) will be derided. I personally dis-agree with many points of
              the law, but i know that if i were to willingly break them to make a point, i would simply re-inforce the consensus of opinion
              behind them, rather than bring the matter to a meaningful debate.

              I can appreciate that the ALF feels strongly about it's work but, in my honest opinion, anything done under their banner
              which goes against our laws can only cheapen their good intentions.

              Ask questions, don't smash things.

              ALF response: The primary goal of most ALF cells is to rescue the animal in front of them, usually an animal whose abuse
              they have agonized over for weeks or months. So one good thing happens when the animal is rescued. Side-effects may be
              negative 1.) the news will portrait the theft/vandalism in an unflattering way, causing others to turn against animal rights
              advocates (although not necessary the logic). Or side-effects may be positive 2.) Somebody reads about an action and
              becomes a supporter of animal rights.

              There are pages of arguments on our website and a handful of books written that can support either side of the "side-effects".
              While potential side-effects are often considered, they rarely concrete enough to deter the motivation of someone who is
              looking in the eyes of a suffering animal.

              25 years ago everyone was against animal rights. If one doesn't become a vegetarian, they still are causing a tremendous
              amount of suffering. The AR movement needs to get information to these people.

              Animal rights is about principles, not people. Any human who says, "Yes, I've seen the animal's suffering and I agree it's not
              necessary, but I don't like the tactics of animal rights activists so I'll continue to let the animals suffer" has some serious
              emotional problems. The fact is that people can hate the messenger and accept the message. An example: People hated the
              Vietnam War protestors, world wide, who threw bricks through windows. But the protests made the evening news. Which is
              the best way, maybe the only way, to reach people today. That's not to say that all avenues should not be pursued. They
              should be, and they are.



y 08/18/2006 6:23:58pm
               Les. Hayward
               nospam@corfe-castle.demon.co.uk
               Anglesey, N. Wales.
               (change nospam to les for correct email)

               I have been a passive admirer of your work for a considerable time. Please keep up the fight and don't be put off by any new
               laws the Blair dictatorship introduces!
               All the very best,
               Les.

               ALF response: Thanks for writing. Even if angry mobs string us up from trees it won't change what in our hearts we know is
               morally correct.



y 08/18/2006 12:30:25am
              Gen
              genevieve_n54@yahoo.com
              lovinanamail lane.
              Ever sience I was a child I had passion against crullety torrwards animals. I would like to get involved in the ALF. How they
              test on animals enrages me. How would those heartless bastards feel if we did that to them. I admit that I do take perscription
              meds for bipolar and sezerous. But we have so much uneccesary experimentaion. Such as clorix bleach. That is so
              rediculous. Hey contact me with the info to the email addy above. Keep up the fight, power to you, and sorry about the
              spelling.

               ALF response: Thanks for caring about animals. Please read the information on our website for details on what The ALF is
               about, and how you can help animals.

               Most countries require drug companies to test drugs on animals, so it is the laws that need to be changed. Knowing which
               companies are doing more tests than necessary test to meet the minimum legal requirements is difficult (usually this is
               because they don't understand statistics). This is where "inside information" is needed. Using drugs that are made by
               companies who tested them on animals while being against animal testing is no more hypocritical than is driving on a road
               built by slaves and being against slavery. It might make a "statement" but that is all.

               This is morally different from supporting companies that manufacture cosmetics and household products and test them on
               animals to obtain government subsidies. Supporting them is like driving on a road that is currently being built by slaves when
               there is an equally good road available that was not built by slaves. This is morally a bad choice.



y 08/18/2006 11:29:45am
              mario
              emmepi8@gmail.com
              italia
              grazie per quello che fate, grazie per il coraggio.
              E' possibile fondare degli ALF supporter group??
              per favore contattatemi...
              Per ora pubblicizzerò il vostro sito sul mio blog...
              un abbraccio
y 08/18/2006 10:32:36am
              DAVID A. GHOSH
              davidaghosh@vsnl.net
              INDIA
              I wish your all success. You are doing amazing job to protect animals and stop madness of Scientist? who are killing lovely
              animals in the name of R&D medicine, what a stupid job by them.At this moment many are involved in terrorism against
              mankind and peace, but just few notorious persons are terrorising agains lovely animals indeed in their Lab in the name of
              social job. STOP ALL THESE CRUELTY TO THE ANIMALS AT ANY COST.
              You are saint and I pray God bless you richly.
              Thanks.
              David



day 08/17/2006 9:55:46pm
             Mia

               USA
               Thank you for all your hard work in protecting animals! I noticed that there is one deeply troubling form of animal abuse that
               your organization does not seem to be fighting against. I was upset to see that on the web, there were no visible organizations
               trying to stop the spread of animal sex abuse, but rather saw pages and pages of people promoting bestiality and zoophiles as
               a way of life! I became sick that this cruel abuse of animals is happening and so widespread. It is troubling that no one
               appears to be doing much to stop it. I turn to you and ask that you help make a more active stance against the horrific sexual
               abuse of animals that is beastiality.

               ALF response: We try to stop any animal abuse that we see, or that we hear about. Participants in beastiality are difficult to
               locate because most of society frowns upon their actions. Similarly it's difficult to even stop dogfighting or cockfighting even
               though it's done in the open. Although horrible, the time and energy needed to stop it is difficult to justify when there are so
               many desperate animals to save that require less time. Beastiality would fall into this same category of "hard to justify the
               time" unless we just happen to get inside information about a case.



day 08/17/2006 8:33:41pm
             Jennifer Venza
             jenvenza@aol.com
             Texas
             Great work guys! I wish I had the guts to do what yoo do! You are saints!


day 08/17/2006 5:35:52pm
             J Black
             jester.black@spamavoidingfalsebit.gmail.com
             in front of a computer
             I guess i just want to rant and call all ALF members a bunch of rhetoric spouting fools, but i suspect that it would achieve
             little. In fact i would prefer to point to the hippocritical and biased information offered on this website; for any new readers,
             please check the information offered on the site with other databases found on the internet (wikipedia, news groups etc...), a
             little searching might just give you a more informed view of the world, go on, it's just a few clicks and searches away. Above
             all else, a person would be rather close minded, nay, shallow to take things at face value.

               ALF response: We agree completely with the statement that one should do their own research.
J Black: Especially relating to the 'mission statement':

ALF note: He is referring to the guidelines, not the mission statement (I've placed the Mission Statement the end). I've placed
the guideline to which he is referring before each of his points.

Guideline1: TO liberate animals from places of abuse, i.e. laboratories, factory farms, fur farms, etc, and place them in good
homes where they may live out their natural lives, free from suffering.

J Black: 1. 'good homes' rather a subjective statement. 'free of suffering' but not free eh?

ALF: Yes, both statements are subjective.

Guideline 2: TO inflict economic damage to those who profit from the misery and exploitation of animals.

J Black: 2. So that'll be everyone then? Those Africans with HIV that are given drugs by companies who use animal testing?


ALF: J Black has made a good point. Almost everyone is guilty to some degree, just as most people have broken some law,
even if only jaywalking. Most activists understand that prioritization is essential. They realize if they protest against the most
egregious animal abusers they will have an eternity's work before they reach people who have used a shampoo that was tested
on animals. I'm unaware of any activist who started at the wrong end of the spectrum, just as I'm unaware of people who say
"you must obey the law or go to jail" calling the police when a co-worker copies software.

However, guideline 2 is vague, which is the reason for the 5th guideline.

guideline 3. TO reveal the horror and atrocities committed against animals behind locked doors, by performing non-violent
direct actions and liberations.

J Black: 3. 'non-violent actions and liberations' What does this mean exactly? Using your vegeratarian/vegan superpowers to
magically remove evidential information (and/or animals) that, by the way, is freely available under the data protection act?


ALF: 'non-violent' is referring to harming beings (see guideline 4). The "horror and atrocities" that occur at factory farms,
vivisection labs, etc are not freely available. There are many examples of where revealing these atrocies has awakened the
public to the actions of some sick people.

guideline 4. TO take all necessary precautions against harming any animal, human and non-human.

J Black: 4. Yeah, when you go in the sea you kill hundreds of algae and other associated small things merely by your
presence. Just because it's not fluffy doesn't mean it's not alive.

ALF: The animal rights FAQs and AR presentations refer to giving priority to beings with greater "sentience". This is
discussed frequently. You don't have to agree on whether to save bacteria to agree that chimps should have more rights. Still,
most animal rights activists would not step on an ant if they could avoid it.

guideline 5. To analyze the ramifications of all proposed actions, and never apply generalizations when specific information
is available.

J Black: 5. To apply subjectivity (we are right and you are wrong) to all effects of destroying stuff, and only generalize when
we can't be bothered to find out the facts.
              ALF: Ramifications of an action might include: 1.) A public outcry doing more damage than the good that was done
              (especially if the media gets only the abusers side of the story). 2.) An abuser filing an insurance claim and making a lot of
              money from imaginary items. 3.) Animals requiring extraordinary medical attention (choices have to be made - save one of
              this or two of these - etc).

              J Black: In short, the ALF are brainwashers who think that their activities are justifiable because a small minority of people
              agree with them. Pathetic.

              ALF: The ALF web site has placed all information, and rebuttals to the information, that it has received since 1985. Not one
              single article or rebuttal to an article, has been rejected because we disagreed with it. This hardly constitues "brainwashing".
              The brainwashing has been done by corporations spending billions of dollars on false and misleading advertising. They are
              as shameless as the cigarette companies.

              The ALF Mission Statement:
              To effectively allocate resources (time and money) to end the "property" status of nonhuman animals.

              The Objective of the Mission:
              To abolish institutionalized animal exploitation because it assumes that animals are property.



day 08/17/2006 3:59:47am
             Karin B.
             karininca@yahoo.com
             San Jacinto, CA
             Keep up the good work. Go to http://www.living-free.org/ to adopt your next best friend.



day 08/17/2006 1:49:19am
             Deborah Winter
             annepurrrr@mn.rr.com
             Minneapolis, MN
             Keep up the good work. Here in MN we have 3 horses desperate for good, loving homes or sanctuaries. Can you help?




esday 08/16/2006 5:51:11am
             elena
             elenita0080@hotmail.com
             monterrey , mexico
             se podrian poner en contacto conmigo ?



esday 08/16/2006 5:40:24am
             M Brooks
             mlbr1013@yahoo.com
             Redmond, WA
              I am grateful for organizations like ALF - more power to you and I hope your numbers increase! I wish this world would
              become more compassionate and responsible and put an end to cruelty and violence! I cannot understand the cruelty that
              goes on in this world, cruelty driven by senseless and sickening greed and then there are people who are just plain sick and
              sadistic. How can people not feel? Animals are so full of expression - how can they ignore it? Why can't people enjoy the
              beauty of this earth and the animals instead of destroying it all? What sick person gets pleasure from hurting or killing a
              living thing? I can only hope that somewhere in the course of this "journey" that what goes around comes around.




esday 08/16/2006 0:33:25am
             Ally

              Scotland
              I would just like to say there is no place in Scotland called brentbury as DSLS says. Must be the meat going to his head.Keep
              up the good work all those involved in ALF. SMASH HLS



ay 08/15/2006 7:01:52pm
             DSLS

              Brentbury SCOTLAND
              You waste time activists! I love meat and I would eat 100 different animals to save 1000 people. Well, I have to go now.
              Have to prepare my self for the 2.5 Kg of steak.

              ALF response: Please have a cigarette too, since you're killing yourself anyway to make corporations rich.



ay 08/15/2006 6:37:12pm
             james crisp
             etowahcrisp@tds.net
             usa
             you people are crazy, millions of starving people,and you are worried about animals?

              ALF response: There is a correlation between not eating meat and feeding the starving people in the world. Books have been
              written on the subject. I could tell you what the correlation is, but what fun would that be?



ay 08/15/2006 6:16:26pm
             W D Thomas
             will.d.thomas@gmail.com
             Cardiff - Wales
             Hello,

              I entirely support your manifesto. It is a morally disturbed society which causes such suffering to sentient beings. I believe
              that humanity will only realise peace for itself when it no longer abuses animals, as there is a well-established link between
              violence towards animals and violence towards other humans. It is our responsibility as dubiously crowned 'Masters of the
              Planet', to quell our bloodthirsty natures, and treat animals with compassion - hopefully one day our descendants will gasp in
              horror when they hear tales of the injustices of our age.
ay 08/15/2006 2:17:53pm
             Joel Collins
             joelcollins2002@hotmail.com
             Dudley, England
             please email me and tell me how to get involved,i wanna stick it to the sadistic fuckers who think its right to torture animals
             for the 'benefits of science' or because 'we need animals to survive' bla bla bla, i want to help

              ALF response: All the information you need is on our web site. Please start with the credo / guidelines. Thanks for caring
              about animals.



ay 08/15/2006 12:53:10am
             Tim

              Uk
              It would be nice,if you'd publish and answer,my messaging questions.You are a "scientist," Anne B,in what field?
              Have you done or do you do,animal experimentation? If you DO! Then why are you the webmaster of this "animal liberation
              front" website? Are you doing abit of, Gill Langley, type, sabotaging? Or maybe abit of, Peter Singer, vivisection endorsing?


              Are your keeping the passifying slogan of "its either your baby or a dog" to keep the "scientific" worship up of
              vivisection,going?

              Which chemical company or drug company,employs you,Anne B?

              Ceiba Geigy(Gill Langley's employers)? Novartis? Glaxo? MRC? ..........

              ALF response:

              1.) I don't believe either Ann B or Anne K answers this guestbook. The 9-1/2 webmasters of this site do not know each other
              so I can't speak for others.

              2.) The animal rights philosophy is about "principles, not people". That's a major point, worth repeating. Cults are about their
              leaders. The ALF website has never contained the opinions of its webmasters. It's only a repository of un-edited information
              of interest to the ALF, which includes the arguments of our opposition. A trained monkey, or Ted Nugent, could do the job.
              Sources are not relevant, only logic is relevant.

              3.) Trying to harass ALF members into revealing personal information is not likely to work until they run out of money and
              want to go to jail to have taxpayers pay for their meals. I have ocassionally refered to my own past, and the personal
              information offered was either intentionally vague or outdated. I imagine others are the same.



ay 08/15/2006 10:47:59am
             Zhi Chen
             chen_zhi45@hotmail.com
             China
              There are so many wild animals in China however most of them face extinction!For example ,the number of Pantholops
              hodgsonil was 500.000 a 100 year ago.In recent years,the number of this animal is only 50,000.Many people poach them for
              the fur,the fur can be made to a kind muffler called shahtoosh.Shahtoosh is sold to Europe ,it stands for noble.Because of the
              high profit,people never stop killing Pantholops hodgsonil .They even skin the Pantholops hodgsonil when they wounded by
              guns!
              So ,I hope the people in Europe not buy the Shahtoosh !Save the Pantholops hodgsonil!!!!!!!!!!!



ay 08/14/2006 9:45:34pm
             Jessica
             latexfashionsmear@yahoo.com
             Salem, Or



ay 08/14/2006 4:07:29pm
             RICHARD NICHOLSON

              LEEDS
              WANT MORE INFO ON LOCAL EVENTS

              ALF response: Here's a secret ... we don't search for information or post our own information (for security reasons). We do
              post everything that activists send us from anywhere in the world. Our website has always been a simple repository for
              activists to share and store information. Please send us whatever you want and we'll post it. You can even tell us where to
              stick it.



ay 08/14/2006 1:30:32pm
             Nathan Lindsell
             nathan@minesofmoria.co.uk
             Milton Keynes, England
             The thought of eating meat makes me sick now...I hadn't eaten pork for 3 years & I just recently became a veggie, and hope
             eventually to become Vegan.

              I hope all the nay-sayers take note: all the food that is fed to the livestock on factory farms in America could feed all the 3rd
              world nations! So stopping animal cruelty/the meat industry WILL solve alot of our problems.



ay 08/14/2006 6:24:02am
             Zhi Chen
             chen_zhi45@hotmail.com
             Wuhan China.
             Hello! ALF,I'm a college student in China.Many people say that ALF is a terrorist group but I think we need such a group for
             animal right!In China,animal right is very terrible,1 week ago,a city in China killed more than 50,000 dogs because of 19
             people killed by rabies!3 years ago,GuangDong Province killed all the pangolins in that Province! I want save the animals
             however only a few people can help me.
ay 08/14/2006 5:37:45am
             Alessandra
             awilliam@bowdoin.edu
             NYC
             I absolutely will never understand why people will take their time to go on a website of something they don't agree with and
             write a comment about how they are losers...well maybe you should get a life, or get laid or something. Some people think
             that they need to be 'true' americans and show off how macho they are, and how they eat steak and hunt, etc. But I am a proud
             f'ing american, and I don't need to eat meat or hunt to prove it.
             What they don't understand is, that girl you could never get in high school is a vegetarian, that famous actor who makes 100
             times what you'll ever make is a vegetarian, not just 'dirty hippies'. Also, if you aren't educated about what goes on in labs, or
             on the farm, don't talk about it! My brother is a research scientist and can tell me for a fact that most animal 'sacrifices' are
             pointless and for 'practice' purposes. Blinding harmless animals is not curing cancer you stupid shits!

              Animals are slaves in a lab. When we think back at the times of slavery in the US, we are humiliated and disgusted (and if
              you aren't, congratulations u suck). It's the same shit! If we think we can play god and that we are so much better than other
              animals, then our concept of god is really twisted. The ALF does what has got to be done. They are the Harriet Tubmans of
              animal rights: they risk their own freedom to help the slaved ones that can't free themselves. Given the opportunity, I would
              do the same. I commend them, and thank them. (And don't pull they 'they are terrorists' crap, I live at Ground Zero, so shove
              it)
              I am just a 20 year old college student, but I support the ALF full heartedly. keep up the great work!!!



ay 08/14/2006 4:23:38am
             Jlowe
             catchaserz1@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
             To Mr T. The word IS pronounced vee-gan long e with a gun. Which I will use to shoot myself if I have to read this one
             more time.

              ALF response: For the record, quite a few dictionaries have it both ways. Like tomato.



ay 08/14/2006 4:23:24am
             JDS
             thesmilingfrog@msn.com
             NY
             You should feel ashamed. The extremist measures you go to to allegedly save animals (not to mention fuel your egos in your
             self righteousness) does more harm than good. Would you go to these extremes to help a fellow human being or just animals.
             There are far more humans in the world suffering from oppression, inhabitable conditions, and inhumane policies,
             procedures, and tyrannies than animals. Which is more important? I guess when you have it pretty easy in your own life it
             makes it easier to worry about animals and not other humans. If you were a potential victim of a genocide or a slave in some
             foreign nation would you want those that enjoy the benefits of freedom to worry about the occasional abuses in animal testing
             which in the long run yeilds cures and treatments for diseases you or someone you know may have or one day get, or would
             you hope that perhaps, somewhere, freedom enjoying citizens are gathering and trying to find some sort of resolution for the
             endless array of atrocities against humankind that are present in this world? Long story short: If it means saving someone I
             love, I could care less if a monkey or another animal has to suffer. And they don't always. There will be abuses like with



ay 08/14/2006 2:52:13am
               Lori Miller
               info@mpebs.com
               Butte, Montana
               We commend you for the superb work you do! Please contact us if there is anything we can do from Montana.
               www.mpebs.com or info@mpebs.com



day 08/12/2006 9:05:39pm
              Lila Evans
              lila.evans@hotmail.com
              Ontario, Canada
              How do you join ALF!? you guys are absolutley amazing. The risks you take for these animals are truly outstanding. I saw
              the video of Britches rescue on the P.E.T.A website and it was truly an eye opening experience. Some people call ALF a
              terrorist group, but maybe you guys wouldn't have to go to such extremes if people enforced and followed animal abuse
              regulations. I think you guys are doing the right thing and i respect your dedication.



day 08/12/2006 4:47:42pm
              S

               us
               I am very curious about joining the ALF. I want to help my fellow animals. They shouldn't have to go through experiments
               and suffering. Animals don't deserve that treatment. It's so cruel and inhumane. Animals have brains. Animals have feelings.
               Animals have senses. The people that test on these beautiful animals should feel what its like to have their eyelids sewn
               closed..



day 08/12/2006 2:01:58pm
              emma
              estanle66@yahoo.com
              georgia
              plase email me!this site rocks!



day 08/12/2006 12:54:02am
              niki
              nikifirewallgov@hotmail.com
              australia
              birds don't live in cages-people do can alf please send me some info so that i can be more proactive to stop this putrid
              violation of a pure race !
              i came across your site after researching a story for my radio /tv show that is to be recorded - and people are sent to gaol for
              killing humans!!!!!!!!!!! hell has no fury

               ALF response: We don't have hardcopies of anything to send you. Sorry.



day 08/12/2006 12:08:11am
               westwood

               uk
               my eyes have been opened keep up the great work you are doing


y 08/11/2006 5:41:43am
              vittoria
              ceciliostazio@tele2.it
              italy
              [Wendall wrote:"This is not a cause you will win"].
              in fact, this is a cause WE'll win all together!
              but surely we win this cause. I would put a hand on the fire (the wendall hand obviousely)
              regards



y 08/11/2006 2:49:22am
              kerri
              m.
              texas
              I wish we could cloan all good animal activists....until then, let's keep doing EVERYTHING we can to spread the word for
              animals and help end as much of their suffering as possible. Leaflet at malls, college campuses, churches, concerts; write
              letters; make calls; post facts and alerts, etc. on sites like craigslist.org. Come on, we have to be active if we are going be
              animal activists!!!!



y 08/11/2006 2:23:41am
              Mr.T

               USA
               Why do so many Vegan's have trouble with the pronunciation of "Vegan". Even on the ALF site you state "It is pronounced
               "vee-gun"....that is not true.

               The word "Vegan" was coined by Donald Watson. Since Donald Watson is the originator of the word, he is quite emphatic
               about its pronunciation. He stated in the 1989 spring issue of The Vegan, that VEGAN is not pronounced with a long 'e' and
               a hard 'g' and NOT "veggan, vaygun, vayjun, or veejun." Simply put, you take the first three letters and the last two of
               "vegetarian," and you have the pronunciation the way it was intended, "VEH-jan".

               ALF response: I think I saw this routine in a Jerry Seinfeld episode.



y 08/11/2006 1:41:42am
              XXX

               Brazil
               go vegan!
day 08/10/2006 10:09:44pm
             Wendall
             wlwinn@ncsu.edu
             Raliegh, nc
             I am an avid hunter fisherman, and outdoorsman. I feel that you are a group of lunatics. I am sorry but there are more and
             bigger problems in the world that whether a cow is cared for right or a monkey can be used to save human lives. Your actions
             are irresponsible and a misuse of the freedoms we are lucky to have in this country. I agree that animals should not be
             tortured, but i also love to eat steak and chicken and live a healthy life due to many vaccines and cures that have come from
             animal testing. I feel you have the right to live anyway you would like but others may enjoy the way they live, and by not
             only threatening lives but peoples livelihoods you are commiting terrorism in its purest form. You are terrorists and I hope
             you realize that. This is not a cause you will win.



day 08/10/2006 4:40:53pm
             andrea

              bacup
              thankyou x



day 08/10/2006 3:12:45pm
             vittoria
             ricevente@tiscali.it
             italy
             YESSSSS
             we can change the world if each of us does something.
             tx ALF!



day 08/10/2006 7:51:16am
             Sarah

              NZ
              Rock on!



day 08/10/2006 5:19:54am
             Markly

              Cyberspace
              The USA kills billions of livestock every year more than any other country in the world. I demand that everyone should
              boycott buying goods from this
              animal fascist state. I demand that everyone should boycott goods from
              any country that kills or tortures animals.

              Ophs I’m buggered now I forget to plant my own food my own food for winter.
esday 08/09/2006 8:14:44pm
             kirst

             suffolk
             you guys do amazing work! i am 16 and i dont realy know how to get involved. i think it takes a brave and strong person to
             realy stand up for what they believe in and give the f*****s what they deserve.
             well done and keep it up! i support you fully

             ALF response: Thanks. It doesn't really take bravery. It takes the understanding that true happiness requires fidelity to a
             worthy purpose.



esday 08/09/2006 4:30:44pm
             Mr.T

             USA
             Seems Rod Coronado has given up on animal rights...he's not vegan anymore and he has quit ALF.
             http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20060808212415579

             ALF response: The ALF philosophy does not require veganism. But Rod is not a member of the ALF. There are no official
             members of the ALF.

             Incidentally, almost all self-declared ALF "members" have been temporary -- during the time that someone sees an animal
             being abused and they take action to stop it.



esday 08/09/2006 1:52:21pm
             Shane
             shane_miller308@hotmail.com
             B.C.
             This comment references the statements made by your organization to the Newfoundlander. I think the people of
             Newfoundland would rather make a living themselves and keep their dignity than receive a hand-me-down from an animal
             rights group which was far less than what they would make hunting seal.

             ALF response: At the time, the offer was for as much as THEY SAID they made. But they never even considered it. So
             hollering about the economic damage was clearly bogus. If it was their ego, they should have said that.

             Shane: Also, I wanted to question the accusations made by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in classifying the ALF
             as domestic terrorists. Is this true? I do not know much about your organization and it is hard to believe that animal rights
             activists are terrorists, but then again on your website those masked men look like HAMAS or Chechen rebels. Thank you for
             your time and please reply.

             ALF response: ALF has been on the domestic terrorist list in the US for 10-15 years. The book "Terrorists or Freedom
             Fighters" chronicles positions on both sides of this debate. As a worldwide organization, this labelling (name calling) has
             never been particularly relevant. To my knowledge, ALF has never hurt anyone physically.



esday 08/09/2006 2:08:50am
              Nichole
              mypinkmiata@yahoo.com
              Pennsylvania
              I can not imagine a world without activists standing up for animals and saving lives. I support anyone who is willing to risk
              their own safety and freedom to save the lives of those who are unable to save themselves. There is nothing more important.
              THANK YOU!



ay 08/08/2006 9:17:36pm
             Michelle
             fulgora77@vampireuk.zzn.com
             NEWFOUNDLAND
             What a bunch of disgusting, evil people you are. I just finished looking at that Tour Newfoundland site you are running,
             since you don't have the nerve to have a comment section there, I will have to put it here.

              ALF response: We'd like to take credit for the site because it's a brilliant satire of a commercial website. But we didn't create
              it. We don't know who did create it. We linked to that web site along with 14,780 other external links from our site. If we
              took credit for all those sites, we might as well take credit for the entire world wide web.

              Michelle: Before you write me off as another "animal hating carnivore", let me tell you I am a vegetarian, I have a Veterinry
              Technician degree, I have 2 cats rescued from unstable environments, and I work at a riding stable giving wonderful care to
              25 horses everyday. People like you make me ashamed to call myself an animal lover.

              ALF response: You are doing great work. Thank you.

              Michelle: You are a bunch of terrorist nazis,

              ALF response: I don't have a swazstika (I probably haven't spelled it correctly). But I get your point: You're furious. Furious
              people call other people "Nazis".

              Michelle: how dare you try to impose your views on unsuspecting people (some or most possibly children) wanting to look at
              tourist sites.

              ALF response: Social and political movements are all about trying to force views on others. It's the nature of the beast if you
              want to change something. People, political parties, and advertisers are doing it daily.

              Michelle: You want to make a diffrence? Lobby the Canadian government to do something about overfishing, or make them
              stop fishing altogether.

              ALF response: We agree. Those should be effective, worthy actions. But they don't seem to be working.

              Michelle: Fish are animals too if I am not mistaken. Oh thats right, fish aren't cute like those little baby seals are they?

              ALF response: We agree. Because fish feel pain and they live lives with meaning, vegans and vegetarians don't eat fish.
              There has been a boycott against Canadian Seafood for more than a year. Cuteness is not relevant.

              Michelle: What about the thousands of horses loaded onto meat trucks every year? Still not as cute as those seals eh?


              ALF response: We agree once again. There are protests and campaigns against killing horses for meat.
              Michelle: Or do other types of animals in need not garner as much money for you drooling idiots?

              ALF response: We are an underground organization. We have never taken any donations in our history. In fact there is no
              way to donate to us so you can put down your checkbook -- oh, I see, that's a handgun.

              Michelle: The bottom line is this, no-one kills white coats anymore, they die on their own after they kill the mother. There is
              a gross overpopulation of seals, I see you don't have up on that rotten little site you have running how many fish a seal will
              KILL (thats right KILL NOT EAT) in the run of a day.

              ALF response: You have made an important point, but without any data.

              Michelle: The revinue generated from the seal hunt puts food on the tables of many a Newfoundlander, same as those who
              slaughter cows, chickens or anything else we eat.

              ALF response: Making money from abuse is the same reason human slave owners used for keeping slaves. It is not a
              compelling argument. Additionally, your government was offered, officially and publically, the same money to NOT club
              seals, and they officially and publically said NO Thanks. They still haven't explained why.

              Michelle: Too bad a chicken is not as cute as a baby seal.

              ALF response: We have more pages devoted to the abuse of chickens on our website than we have to sealing. I guess you
              haven't read the website that you are critiquing. Please look. We agree with you. Chickens are horribly abused worldwide.


              Michelle; I WILL be contacting my government members, not to protest the seal hunt, but to see if they can find a way to
              charge you with something. Maybe fraud? Misrepresentation? Lets see!

              ALF response: There is no crime against linking to a website. If it were a crime, then all the news articles about that website
              would be guilty, too. These news articles have mislead you into thinking we created the website (although the articles we've
              read don't actually say that). Sometimes you can't trust what you read. How ironic... that's what they're complaining about. At
              least most reasonable people will recognize the website as satire and take it with a grain of salt. I'm not sure what to do about
              the newspapers, though.



ay 08/08/2006 1:17:09pm
             bob
             a@b.com
             south yorkshire
             Murderers, you advocate animal rights yet cut a fence in a deer farm and drive them towards the M1 causing the death of
             milking females and calves??? surely a life on a large open farm is better than death!



ay 08/08/2006 10:36:30am
             Spino
             flipflop@altervista.org
             Rome
             __________ FOR JASON P.____________

              hey bro,I think you waste your words.
              yes, I believe in your good faith but you have to understand that you talk to people with a philosophy most modern of yours
              (a little bit: you can make another small step).
              Sorry but sentences as "kill as quickly as they can..." for us, they are dinosaur words...
              try to move your sentence on a human being: for us the animals are all equal ones.
              the man is an animal. every hierarchy among the animals is rationally arbitrary.
              and then, if the man is the best animal, the king of the animals, then he has the duty to protect his subjects, not to abuse of
              them.

              about PETA: here you really waste your time. for the animals abuses, a radical position is necessary!
              and please friend, don't say things that you don't know; these are only inferences (I call her "lies")

              my best regards to all the modern citizens of the world I have seen here,
              Spino.



ay 08/08/2006 6:02:45am
             Tom
             crakhead606@yahoo.com
             USA
             You people are losers. Will you please just eat a burger and get it over with? Animals were put here for other animals (like
             us) to eat. All things in the food chain eat other living things, to survive. "Oh, but animals feel pain waaaaa...." What about
             that study that came out a few years ago that concluded that plants feel pain? Are you now going to stop eating salad in fear
             that you might hurt them? SALAD RIGHTS!!! SALAD RIGHTS!!!



ay 08/08/2006 2:36:46am
             Ray Junior
             rayjunior831@yahoo.com
             San Diego, CA
             I reall respect everything ALF does. I support it in every way and it inspires me to do more around my community. I am a
             musician, and I also try to raise animal rights awareness. Thank you for forming and keep doing what your doing.

              http://myspace.com/rayjunior



ay 08/08/2006 0:10:16am
             Jason P
             spider_man_nl@hotmail.com
             Goulds, Newfoundland
             To Disappointed by ALF message board; Sorry I missed your comment, if you want you can e-mail it to me (it might take a
             few days for me to respond to it because I'm busy with work). Just so you all know, yes, I support the seal hunt but I am also
             a animal lover...I rescue dogs and cats that are about to be put down and I find them good and loving home (to date I have
             found loving homes for five dogs and 12 cats and I plan on saving more)....As for the comment you made about me being
             misguided..well, thats how I feel about you guys....organisations like PETA and the ALF spread dirty lies about the seal hunt
             and about Newfoundlanders...so let me clear up a few things...1) Whitecoats are NOT hunted....it is a crime in Canada to
             hunt a whitecoat. 2) Seals are NOT skinned alive. 3) Most seals are NOT clubbed...they are shot. I know this because I LIVE
             HERE...I know this because I have family members who are sealers...PETA and other groups would have you believe other
             wise...why??? thats simple, they want people to donate money to their organisations...money that they pocket. yes, the seal
             hunt is bloody but so are meat packing plants....just before my family members and friends head out for the hunt, I always
ay 08/07/2006 11:59:24am
             spino
             flipflop@altervista.org
             rome
             my most sincere compliments for your new work: the "behind the mask" pdf is a good manifesto for the modern age. clear
             ideas here! and I am very thankful for your actions task, mix of courage & altruism.
             the world is changing very quickly (in better the men, in worse the planet, I believe). an ethical revolution is knocking to the
             door, now! so... thank you for wanting to accelerate the future.



ay 08/07/2006 8:54:57am
             Disappointed by ALF message board


              Wow just lost respect for this website and the so called "message board" forum. My post was not just addressed to Jason
              (and the "insult" simply said he was misguided, hardly that big of an insult) but i went on to make a point about the
              importance of animal rights with regards to the Iraq War and other world issues.

              I can't believe such a "progressive" website censors people. When a website won't allow discussion, something is VERY
              wrong. I don't know any other websites that censor like this, unless curse words/vulgarities are involved and my post didn't
              involve anything like that.


              ALF response: We edit heavily. Now you know. 9/10 of the posts to this guestbook are either selling something or include
              name-calling. If a post starts with a negative reference to another poster it risks being deleted no matter how brilliant the rest
              of it may be.

              To date we are aware of more people disappointed by the churlish emotional attacks that are part of the AR debate than there
              are people disappointed by heavy editing. Every time a "name" is mentioned, the idea gets second billing.



ay 08/07/2006 4:30:40am
             To poster Jason
             edited to nothing by ALF

              **insults deleted**

              ALF response: What part of "This is the last post with personal attacks. Animal rights is about principles, not people." was
              not clear?



ay 08/07/2006 2:53:07am
             Mitch
             alanisobsessed13@gmail.com
             New York
              Wow you guys are great and changing the world. I've heard alot of people saying that the ALF is a bad group but i think
              you're great! Keep up the good work!-Mitch



y 08/06/2006 8:53:01pm
             CAROLYN
             ANIMALSRNOT4US@AOL.COM
             OHIO
             I LOVE YOU ALF!!! THE WORLD HAS ALWAYS CONDEMNED THOSE WHO DO GOOD. THEY PREACH
             COMPASSION, BUT COMPASSION LIMITED PRODUCES EVIL. EACH DAY I SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU. EACH
             DAY I PRAY THAT SOMEONE WILL TELL ME HOW TO HELP YOU.
             YOU CANNOT PAY PEOPLE TO PERPETUATE EVIL AND BE GOOD. YOU CANNOT PAY OTHERS TO
             PERPETUATE CRUELTY AND BE MERCIFUL. YOU CANNOT WITHHOLD COMPASSION FROM ANY OF GOD'S
             CREATURES AND LOVE GOD.



y 08/06/2006 5:10:40pm
             mel

              uk
              to Jason P.I dont really give a shit about all the war babble that ur spouting out(im still alive),and all i really care about is
              animals. oh btw the comment about paul mccartney is quite humbling. i think u just need a bit fat cock stuck u your arse, it
              might stop u spouting so much shite.and u prob will enjoy it.It will keep u busy inbetween not having a life and.. not having a
              life.

              ALF response: This is the last post with personal attacks. Animal rights is about principles, not people.


y 08/06/2006 2:27:33am
             Ally

              Scotland
              Jason P. Go and get a life ya prick. The ALF are superb. Not everybody in the UK and US agree with the war ya
              dumbass!!!!!!!!!.



y 08/06/2006 0:06:14am
             Jason P
             spider_man_nl@hotmail.com
             Goulds, Newfoundland
             To mel; I'm surprised that you took Paul Mccartney's cock out of your mouth long enough to notice that I made a spelling
             error. BTW mel, how many innocent Iraqi women and children did your country murder today?



day 08/05/2006 10:36:52pm
              maria kakalioura
              mariakakalioura@hotmail.com
              Athens, Greece
               I would like to ask whether there is any feedback concerning the 'moment in time'idea. I would love to know how many
               people around the globe actually joined their positive thoughts in favor of the endless neglected, abandoned, tortured,
               slaughterd animals of our planet. I myself do that every day but it is a much more comforting thought to know that other
               people do share this particular moment with you. Thank you.



day 08/05/2006 8:05:10pm
              Gerry
              gryall@gmail.com
              NEWFOUNDLAND
              And for those who make derogatory comments about the good people of NEWFOUNDLAND. At least have the BALLS to
              leave your email add. Thank you.



day 08/05/2006 7:58:52pm
              Gerry
              gryall@gmail.com
              NEWFOUNDLAND
              My family and I won't be visiting the U S any time soon until you stop the innocent slaughter of people in other countries.
              Clean up your own backyard before you condem anyone else. Thank you

               ALF: My backyard is in England.



day 08/05/2006 3:31:47pm
              Mary Cavaleri
              mcavaleri@stanfordeagle.com
              Dallas
              I am all for Animal Rights. I think people that kill them for experimenting and profiting from them should be blown up or
              hung. It's just terrible what our evil government and wealthy families that invest in companies allow.

               Mary Cavaleri
               Dallas, TX



day 08/05/2006 2:25:40am
              pissed off 2
              rwryan@mun.ca
              Beautiful Newfoundland
              Hey guys,

               Just where do you get your facts...???...seal hunt....you know nothing about it. It is an outrage how you can attack a fragile
               economy over something you have not got a clue about....!!!!.....Of course its easy to put a young seal pup in the media to
               drum up money, but if the truth were told by people who had a clue, it is illegal to hunt baby white coat seals. Anyone caught
               hunting baby white coat seals would lose everything including boats, skidoos, and so on. All of the seal is used from their
               furs, meat, oils.....hey, before you attack someone, get a clue. I guess next you will be boycotting baseball games because of
               the leather in their gloves and balls, oh and don't forget the trees they had to kill to get the baseball bats........clue
               in.....!!!!!!!!!!!
               Signed

               pissed off 2

               ALF response: See answer below.



day 08/05/2006 1:09:20am
              Pissed Off.

               Newfoundland. God's Country.
               I'm absolutely disgusted that you'd link a bogus site about the seal hunt in Newfoundland to your website. You should be
               downright ashamed of yourselves. You guys clearly have absolutely no idea about the seal hunt. And how dare you make an
               entire group of people and their culture look so horrible. Shame on you. Shame on your company. Shame on everything that
               you are. I am a proud Newfoundlander.

               So low. To degrade an entire group of people. I ask you remove this link.

               You've horribly angered a lot of people.

               If you want to put down the seal hunt, a very viable hunt, and a huge part of our economy, make sure you get your facts
               straight, and get them from a real source.

               ALF: When the seal-hunters themselves claimed that the economic gain (net or total was not indicated) was $16-million, and
               they were publically offerred that amount to stop, they refused. So it's not about money.



y 08/04/2006 11:34:32pm
              mel
              citroenmissy@hotmail.co.uk
              uk
              To Jason P. I was going to give you lots of abuse for your post, but the fact that you cant spell "thay" is satisfaction enough,
              you dumb fucker!



y 08/04/2006 10:34:48pm
              Jason P
              spider_man_nl@hotmail.com
              Newfoundland, Canada
              You stupid F*cks!!! Instead of protesting the seal hunt that feeds thousands of people, why don't you protest your own
              countries (USA & England) for the thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqi women and children that thay have killed???




y 08/04/2006 7:02:59pm
              Mo
               snotri@yahoo.de
               Germany
               peace, light and hope...... for the animals all over the world!!!

               Mo from www.hestavin.beep.de



y 08/04/2006 2:45:12pm
              Timo

               Germany
               great work!
               Keep doing!!!



y 08/04/2006 1:01:35pm
              RHS
              rhs@gmail.com
              New Jersey
              I thought the ALF was a non-violent organization...if so - why was a bomb left by the front door of an elderly couple in LA
              (thanks to stupidity, it wasn't even the correct house!)



y 08/04/2006 2:53:52am
              Michael Bullermann

               USA
               Another vegetarian, believer and protector.....



y 08/04/2006 0:30:17am
              karyn
              karynn115@hotmail.com
              Fayetteville, Pennsylvania
              I do 'something' for the animals every day! It has become my passion, and I'm very vocal about it. I protest, write letters, call
              legislators, and practically preach from the rooftops. The first week in Sept will bring a House vote to ban horse slaughter in
              the US.
              Google: horse slaughter video

               ALF I'm proud to tell everyone that you are my heroes!!
               Count me in when you need my help,



day 08/03/2006 3:48:16pm
             Harri
             westie.walker@hotmail.co.uk
             UK
              RE. killing dogs by beating in China.

              We need to boycott all goods made in China. This will be a very effective message to all and sundry and hit the Chinese
              government where it hurts, their pockets. Read labels. They're already a pretty brutal bunch to their own population,
              harvesting organs from their incarcarated criminals to sell for organ transplants.

              I agree with M, getting people who have gratuitously been cruel to animals like that being who threw the cat several times
              down 5 floors while filming it on his mobile to repent is definitely going to get more support from the general public.




esday 08/02/2006 8:59:02pm
             M
             N/A
             U.K.
             You would receive a lot more support if you targeted people who deliberately torture animals for their'fun' - like the
             teenagers who threw a cat from a 5th. floor balcony four times while others filmed it on their mobiles. (Reported in the Daily
             Telegraph 2nd August 2006).



esday 08/02/2006 12:53:50am
             Paul

              England
              I once had to leave our cat at a cattery. When i collected her, she was upset, stressed, very nervous and disorientated.
              Although she is very intelligent, she did not even seem to recognize me at first when I released her from her cat carrier at
              home.
              She soon realized where she was, however, and the look in her eyes of gratitude and love towards me for 'rescuing' her from
              the cattery was obvious.
              After this incident, I decided that, if there was any other alternative, I would not leave her at a cattery again.
              If leaving a cat at a cattery can cause it such distress, can you imaginge what it must be like for cats trapped in cages in
              laboratories, listening to the screams of other animals being experimented on by the sadists that work there (oh, and don't
              these so-called 'scientists' so enjoy their work?) while trembling with fear they wait there turn?



esday 08/02/2006 2:56:49am
             Laura


              Can we club the Chinese to death?

              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14139027/



ay 08/01/2006 9:45:17am
             Olly

              England
               Rose says "God didn't create animals to be tortured but to be loved and cared for" - but by the very definition of God being
               all KNOWING and the CREATOR of all things, he must have KNOWN that man would abuse animals and inflict
               unspeakable acts of cruelty upon them. These poor creatures lack only one vital 'ingredient' and that is a VOICE. If they did
               possess this one precious 'gift' their suffering would not be as nearly as great. We humans are the most morally reprehensible
               animals on earth capable of murder, rape, paedophilia - we lie, cheat, bully, steal and we're greedy and vain. Every day we
               read in our newspapers reports of vile, sick, twisted humans carrying out horrific acts of cruelty not only to animals but to
               fellow humans and yet God supposedly made us in 'his image'!! Something must have gone very wrong with the blueprint!
               We should all be eternally grateful to the ALF and organisations like them who are willing to take action on behalf of those
               without a voice as opposed to the majority who just stand by, shake their heads and tut when they hear of such acts.




ay 08/01/2006 1:13:26am
             Karly Bell
             kjbell1977@yahoo.com
             kennewick, Washington
             how can i thank you enough for what you do for the animals?
             let me know if you need some help!



ay 07/31/2006 11:14:50pm
             missy
             citroenmissy@hotmail.co.uk
             ayrshire, scotland
             i have just watched yet another rspca programme on bbc 1, and am so frustrated at the lack of power they have in regards to
             taking animals off owners that cant look after them e.g woman with 7 kids one on the way,14 cats and 7 rabbits not to
             mention the fact that thay live in a small house and obviously have hygiene issues regarding the cleaning of the animals. what
             was really shit though, was that her son killed a kitten but she still got to keep her animals.eventually they got 6 animals
             signed over!big fuckin whoopee. so i just really fancied a fuckin moan. anyone who lives in ayrshire(or anywhere) please feel
             free to contact me and wee can bitch about all the shitty things



ay 07/31/2006 9:10:58pm
             Dyan
             antifascistvegan@aol.com
             US
             I love the updates to the site! It looks really great :)



ay 07/31/2006 6:04:51pm
             Linda
             lsimmons801@aol.com
             Nevada
             Your organization has my respect. Hopefully you could list the websites which would name individuals or organizations
             perpertrating these atrocities thereby exposing them for what and who they are.


ay 07/31/2006 3:28:52pm
              rose

              phila. pa.
              I want to thank you for everything you do for all of the precious animals. I understand and agree with what you do
              SOMEONE HAS TO STOP THE HORRIFIC SUFFERING OF THE ANIMALS IN THESE TORTURE
              CHAMBERS!!!!!GOD DID NOT CREATE ANIMALS TO BE TORTURED BUT TO BE LOVED AND CARED FOR!!
              THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SAVING INNOCENT LIVES.


ay 07/31/2006 9:42:41am
             M. G.

              Canada
              I used to be a researcher. I couldn't take it any more. I left my field, and now I feel ashamed. I've become a vegetarian. I'm
              considering joining you or some other organization. What we do to animals is an atrocity. I need to find a path to atonement.
              I want to beg forgiveness from animals. I'm sorry, I'm very, very sorry.



ay 07/31/2006 7:35:35am
             Sooz
             1sooz@cox.net
             California
             I'm 120% standing behind the ALF, I applaude everything you do for the voice and freedom of suffering animals..It makes
             me sick to think people still in this day an age experiment on animals....there are tons of inmates on death row, why not use
             them since everything is supposed to be for humans anyway...experiment on humans, great idea.... Thank you for saving
             Britches....Where can I sign up??



ay 07/31/2006 1:23:06am
             eric
             pink_lloyd@hotmail.com
             brantford, ontario, Canada
             i'm a janitor at the mall in my town. the Lynden Park Mall, and the other day i went up on the roof to smoke, and while i was
             up there i found a trap. there was a bird inside and it was freaking out, flapping its wings, trying to fly away and bumping its
             head on the top of the trap which was barley bigger than the bird. its was an over turned box like contraption covered in
             chicken wire whith a tiny entrance for the birds to squeeze into leaving them helplessly trapped inside being unable to
             squeeze back out. the trap was baited with bird seed and corn. my friends who were with me lifted the box and the bird flew
             off in a hury. then we jumped on the trap and kicked it in so this wouldn't happen again. i checked on the trap a couple days
             later and it wasn't touched. i somehow doubt that if we had not set the bird free, anybody would have gone to check the trap.
             also i can't figure out why there would even be a trap on the mall roof? or even who put it there. i'm not at all sure what to
             make of it, but i feel like its something people should be aware of.




y 07/30/2006 8:36:56pm
             APF-Animal Protection Force
             apf@cyber-rights.net
             UK for now!
             Great site, for every one who reads this have a heart and help the animals in any way you can.
             FOR THE ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!
             Fighting for them all and forgetting none!! The APF



y 07/30/2006 7:19:04pm
             Brian Oliver

             Montreal,Quebec,Canada
             Every living creature deserve to be FREE.Fight FIRE with FIRE.Fight the war,FUCK the norm.Don't give up
             everybody!.A.L.F. is great,thx to all the peoples that cares about this cause .Peace



y 07/30/2006 4:43:57pm


             Korea
             While the ALF primer contains methods of direct action that could result in injury to others or to self, one hopes that readers
             read the beginning of the ALF primer:
             "In the third section it is important to note the ALF does not, in any way, condone violence against any animal, human or non-
             human. Any action involving violence is by its definition not an ALF action, and any person involved is not an ALF member.

             The fourth section must be strictly adhered to. In over 20 years, and thousands of actions, nobody has ever been injured or
             killed in an ALF action."

             Quoting sections of the primer out of context is disengenuous.



y 07/30/2006 11:50:24am
             Rachel (sheena)

             Wales
             I think it is very beautiful and brave what you are doing, keep fighting the good fight, we`ll get there in the end!
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day 07/29/2006 3:29:25pm
              Olly

              England
              Is there any possibility of naming the web sites listing animal abusers so that we are not only aware of who this scum may be
              but can also keep a watchful eye out for any further cruelty being carried out by them if they live in our respective areas?

              ALF: one is http://pet-abuse.com/



day 07/29/2006 11:22:18am
              olly

              England
              The RSPCA has reported a significant rise in cruelty to animals carried out for the sheer fun of it. Does the ALF 'target'
              individuals convicted of savagery to defenceless animals - the woman to boiled her cat in the washing machine being one
              amongst thousands of cases reported each year?


              ALF: The ALF credo prohibits harming any sentient being. But many animal rights activists spend a great deal of time
              writing letters to judges to make certain that miscreants get maximum jail time for crimes against animals. Some web sites
              list animal abusers so that neighbors will know who they are.



day 07/29/2006 7:27:47am
              Becky
              jimbeck007@aol.com
              Bedfordshire
              Just watched Newsnight on the Oxford lab debate. The usual BBC Bias, slanted questions and sole objective to blacken the
              reputation of animal rights. Keith Mann was great. The general public are being misled by the media- animal experiments
              only continue because they are a huge moneyspinner for the government , MRC, HLS and pharma companies. The sooner
              people wake up to that, the better. The Life Sciences department at Aston Uni now performs no animal exps whatsoever-



day 07/29/2006 6:30:24am
              Mr.T

              USA
              "ALF: You haven't come close to describing anyone I know. Thousands of us became activists not due to the influence of
              personalities, but due to witnessing animal abuse and getting illogical excuses for the abuse."

              Maybe so...but I'm not talking about what made you, or others, become activists. I'm talking about those who were influenced
              by others to take unlawful actions in the name of animal rights.

              Do you think speeches by Rodney Coronado never influenced anyone into taking unlawful actions? Why does PETA work so
              hard at recruiting the Hollywood elite? It's not for their brains, that's for sure, it's for their personalities (or body) and their
             ALF response: Yes, the best way to reach people today is through television and sound-bites. Many people say that it was
             PETA that first made them aware of animal rights. But it is the logic of the AR philosophy that makes them stay.


             Mr. T: The sad thing is, for all the time, talent and energy the convicted activists devoted during the past decade blowing
             things up, they could have accomplished something really great. They didn't need plastic buckets, gas, timers and black
             clothing....just hard work, the power of persuasion and the extraordinary resources that a democracy make possible.

             Is it worth 20 or 30 years of your life if you're caught? There's six this year, who have plead guilty, that say it's not.


             ALF: As far I recall only folks who have performed ELF actions have been caught recently. The ALF is a separate
             philosophy. The fact that some people support both is like the fact that some people are both Republicans and Christians.
             Only people trying to stretch a point will assume a diret connection. Personally I don't know anything about the ELF except
             what we've put on a couple of webpages a few years ago. Changes to the earth infer changes for lifeforms, but change is not



y 07/28/2006 5:41:20pm
              Mr.T

             USA
             The ALF/ELF crowd has some good end-result intentions...they don’t want the earth polluted or used up, and they don’t want
             animals abused. What they missed along the way was an opportunity to develop a functionally holistic view of their goals

             ALF: The goal of most ALF cells is to save the life of the animal whose eyes they are looking into. Maybe a neighbor's pet,
             maybe a lab animal. Longer term goals and the methods for achieving those goals are constantly debated. They rarely affect

             Mr. T: Young, intelligent, feeling people get exposed to strong personalities who want to fix the world by blowing things up
             and they think that, because they have a Che poster and an old copy of Das Kapital, they have been politicized. And then
             they get older but never grow up. They have only been propagandized. Realizing that your government and corporations lie
             to you does not contribute to political enlightenment nearly as much as realizing your Friends in the Movement also lie to

             ALF: Thousands of activists became so not due to the influence of personalities, but due to witnessing animal abuse and
             getting illogical excuses for the abuse.

             Mr. T: If you want to put an end to SUVs, you don’t fire up a car lot...you work on buyers’ motivations. If you want to stop
             animal product testing, you don’t turn loose all the lab rats...you help develop alternative methods...and then you stand ready
             to adopt the unneeded lab rats. If you want to stop over-development of agricultural and forest lands, you don’t set fire to a
             street of new homes...you go to work changing land use laws (yes, I know – touchy subject in Oregon).

             ALF response: Those are good suggestions and most advocates are working on the things you suggest. Education takes up

             Mr. T: A good test to determine if a save-the-earth/animals fanatic has his/her fecal matter adequately integrated:
             Find out if he/she thinks George Hayduke is a real person.

             ALF response: The AR movement is about principles, not about people or personalities.



y 07/28/2006 9:26:27am
              Jusitfy the fact that you phsyical attack people and attempt to murder them.

              I am not intrested in your lying credo, since no member of the ALF follows it, specifly the part about not murdering or
              putting peoples lives in danger (think arson and car bombs), it has no meaning.

              I know you are going to ignore this, as you usually do the hard questions, but well it just had to be said.


              ALF: The ALF is a philosopophy, with a credo that was established before our time. To criticize ALF members who take
              actions contrary to the philosophy is fair (logically similar to criticizing a Christian who commits a sin). But to criticize the
              philosophy because some of its members do not adhere to it is not logical (like complaining to the Pope that all Christians are

              You might have a legitimate issue with the Animal Rights Militia, whose philosophy embraces harm against animal abusers
              as a tool. People who want to shed light on the AR movement know the difference between the ALF and the ARM.
              Unfortunately, most of the media wants to create heat, not light.



day 07/27/2006 11:47:20pm
             tolly mullon
             tolly.mullon@ntlworld.com
             England
             Just watched Newsnight debate in England, Keith Mann - Respect as always :) Pro Test? - Misguided Lunacy. Nice to see
             Keith and Mel talking sense among all the folk peddling the same old bullshit! My thoughts are as ever with my Brothers and
             Sisters. Love and Respect to those who matter - You know who you are :)



day 07/27/2006 11:40:54pm
             Mike
             mikerhawkins@hotmail.com
             Midlands, England.
             Thank you ALF, your right to keep up the pressure on stopping animal testing. My gut instinct has always been against
             animal testing and over the years i have mulled over the argument for and against and i always end up the same way, i`ve
             listened to the so called scientists and quite honestly i think that they are cruel basterds.No Excuses.Keep up the pressure
             please ALF, thank you.I am a short journey from Oxford and intend demonstrating outside the building of the new animal



day 07/27/2006 10:38:28pm
             Dave Richards
             drich@yahoo.co.uk
             UK
             I would have more support for anti-vivisection if they didn't target individuals and perpetrate violence against them.
             Ligitimate demonstration is one thing, the behaviour of some of the factions -under whatever banner - is not only illegal but
             damaging to your cause.


              ALF response: Anyone who decides to take a moral position based on the actions of others instead of based on the logic of
              the morality will eventually see the error of this. Hopefully a friend will point out their error.
day 07/27/2006 10:38:15pm
             Mick
             mickp@fastmail.ca
             London
             Hi,
             I cant say that i agree with all your methods but i do understand your passion and committment. I'm not really sure that you
             will ever get companies and universities to ever stop experimenting on animals but i would like to think that one day
             technology with will advance so much that it would not be needed.
             My father suffered from parkinsons disease and i know that companies use rats in experiments to try to find a cure, but i
             think that why cant they find human volunteers to experiment on?
             As for monkeys... how can we use mans closest genetic link for experimentation? Apes share something like 94% of the same
             DNA as us but we use them to experiment on !
             Have we really evolved at all?

              Keep up the good work. The government may call you terrorists ( too freely banded about these days) but one man's terrorist
              is another mans freedom fighter.



day 07/27/2006 7:39:26am
             Denise
             Denise999@centurytel.net
             Oregon
             I see so many poor animals alone, hungry, cold, hot, walking on highways, abused, killed, beaten, lonely, it breaks my heart.
             God bless all of you for helping these poor innocent children of our lord. I will never understand why humans treat these
             animals so cruel, I just want to save them all. Thank you.



day 07/27/2006 4:10:41am
             Christine

              Florida
              Good job! Hope you help plenty more animals! Keep telling the world that animals testing is NOT ok!

              P.S.
              I think it's great how you risk your freedom to give animals freedom. Not just one either, maybe two, or fifty. Maybe more,
              probally more. Great job, keep it up!



day 07/27/2006 0:05:33am
             Chris

              Bulgaria
              Keep the flame of liberation alive! For those who were sacrificed in the name of futility and greed - JIHAD!
esday 07/26/2006 10:09:13pm
             AnimalProtectionGroup-Animalrights Germa
             AnimalProtectionGroup@t-online.de
             Germany
             your are the heros,
             we love you so much

              animal protectors from germany

              www.animalprotectiongroup.de



esday 07/26/2006 9:55:28pm
             Sandy
             strange_magic13@worldnet.att.net
             Corpus Christi, TX
             I have just finished reading "Free The Animals" by Ingrid Newkirk. I am outraged, as everyone should be, about what goes
             on the world over (at taxpayer expense), all in the name of science...give me a break. I can't imagine what kind of "human"
             being, who supposedly has a conscience, can look in the mirror every day...walk in the fresh air, sun on his/her face, food
             a'plenty in front of them when wanted, and the freedom to roam and interact with families and other species at will and then
             go to their labs and commit the atrocities agains these beautiful helpless beings. How do these "people" sleep at night? I just
             hope that when I am at the "Pearly Gates" not one of these sorry excuses for a human is anywhere near me...black souls one
             God Speed to ALF and their beautiful people in their endevors to contine this battle to free the poor lost souls that can only
             hope you find them in time.



esday 07/26/2006 8:52:12pm
             Pamela
             pamela@nebutel.com
             Melbourne, Florida
             *hugs* For all you do to help the animals in need!

              Much luv,

              Pamela



esday 07/26/2006 5:25:43pm
             ghazal
             javad262@aol.com
             in the usa
             you are truly heroes!!!



esday 07/26/2006 0:46:05am
             Octavia
             oktawiamroczek@vp.pl
             Poland
              ALF is rainbow on the skay,you are ressurection for this poor animal-daing in torture. For me you are amazing!!! Thank you-



ay 07/25/2006 11:49:15pm
             lee
             abbylee1@aol.com
             usa
             please continue the fight to save these poor animals from the horrible things people do to them ,one day we will all be judged



ay 07/24/2006 10:29:02pm
             me again
             yamahawilson@yahoo.com
             TENNESSEE
             I am curious, why did I not get a response back regarding my post on 7-22-06 regarding the fires!!!!! Do you guys not have
             the balls to give me some kind of reason why you have to put me and my brothers at risk?????

              ALF response: True, I don't have any balls. But I can see the squirrels haven't buried all their nuts for the winter. We have
              never answered all the questions in the guestbook -- especially questions that have already been answered. Discussions take
              place in the "Discussion Forum". Firemen have raised the topic of your question there, and it has been discussed.

              tip: Use the forum's search engine and type in "arson".



ay 07/24/2006 8:58:11pm
             Erin Kanzenbach
             erinboberin21@yahoo.com
             Green Bay, Wisconsin USA
             in it til the end



ay 07/24/2006 10:09:33am
             Pagan
             pagan_warrior@hotmail.fr
             France
             I'm supporting ALF against stupid humanity who kills without reason a lot of animals or practises vivisection and maltreats
             animals. I have some enough of stupid humanity. Animals have their rights and we are also animals. Nature creates us. That's
             why you must protect nature and so animals.



ay 07/24/2006 7:18:52am
             Sarah

              New Zealand (and proud of it)
              animals are so, so important.

              to all those who love animals...
               Kia Kaha
               (stand Strong)



ay 07/24/2006 3:52:48am
             ylenia
             riotgrrrr@hotmail.com
             italy
             alf is life!



ay 07/24/2006 3:45:03am
             sheridan
             beach_bubba_7@hotmail.com
             somewhere
             i hope that the people who are doing those awful things get cages up, beaten , skinned alive and put in horrible fights against



y 07/23/2006 5:27:04pm
             SirT

               USA
               "ALF: Logical compassionate humans will have no problem with Pam being an investor in a restaurant and contributing a
               vegetarian menu to said restaurant."

               As a new investor in HLS I hope ALF affords me the same consideration. I too plan on introducing a vegetarian menu in
               their lunch room...or does the above ALF statement only pertain to the HollyWood elite?

               ALF response: We applaude anyone introducing a vegetarian menu anywhere.



day 07/22/2006 9:43:34pm
              Michael
              laughingcrowe@hotmail.com
              USA
              Keep up the good fight! Ask the experimenters why they experiment on animals, and the answer is: "Because the animals are
              like us." Ask the experimenters why it is morally okay to experiment on animals, and the answer is: "Because the animals are
              not like us." Animal experimentation rests on a logical contradiction. ~Charles R. Magel



day 07/22/2006 8:44:18pm
              Isabel Andres
              isabelandres@hispeed.ch
              Zürich
              Hallo,
               ich mache auch mit beim Gedenktag für unsere Tiere am 8. August.
               Liebe Grüsse Isabel

               http://bueromiezen.de.be



day 07/22/2006 8:19:25pm
              Fighting the good fight
              yamahawilson@yahoo.com
              Tennessee
              I am a people person and a pet person. I have two dogs and a cat in which I love dearly. They are my family. But folks, ALF
              is a terrorist group. They cause damage, destruction, and death in order to attempt change ideas or policy. This is what
              terrorist do. Now I don't agree with animal testing or cruelty to animals, but what you guys do is extreme. For example,
              setting fire to a building. Well you may say, no one was injured. Well, I am a firefighter and we have to respond to those
              fires. And you are taking a chance of killing one of my brothers or even me!!! So come on pepole, stop the arson and save a
              firefighter. We too believe in saving lives, not only pets but humans as well! I hope God will help change your ways and you



y 07/21/2006 3:31:18pm
              Dennis J. Beggan
              djbeggan@hotmail.com
              Windham, NH
              Please keep up the good work. With the continued dedication of animal activists like yourselves someday we will rid the
              world of the most hideous sins of mankind.
              Best Regards,
              Dennis J. Beggan



y 07/21/2006 5:19:41am
              Richard
              raultalbot7@yahoo.com
              USA
              I had to laugh when I saw the latest news about PETA and their bubbleheaded spokesperson Pamela Anderson. Seems Pam
              has teamed up with her personal chef (chef J) and opened a new restaurant titled "BlackSteel". Their menu includes foie gras,
              veal, steak, chicken, shrimp and lobster! PETA is not happy with Pammy. Will Pam cave in to PETA's demands? Only time

               ALF: Logical compassionate humans will have no problem with Pam being an investor in a restaurant and contributing a
               vegetarian menu to said restaurant. PETA may be concerned about the dim-witted folks who will fall prey to propaganda



y 07/21/2006 2:39:29am
              Response to Quinn


               I hope Quinn is being sarcastic. If not, he's not very bright.

               Quinn, how would you like it if someone imprisoned you in a cage for your entire life or slaughtered you for your flesh?
               Animals don't get the choice to do unto others what is done to them. Burning a building to make a point is the least we can do
day 07/20/2006 8:19:23am
             mirak315

              Seattle
              Major props to the ALF. Continue to fight for those who do not have a voice to speak up for themselves as they are thrown in
              cages and injected, mutilated, abused, maimed, and killed for reasons that have no benefit to them at all. People who object
              to your actions need are blind to the cause and refuse to understand the reasons behind those actions.

              I have much love for the ALF and will continue to support them.



esday 07/19/2006 11:52:39pm
             Quinn
             quinn584@yahoo.com

              How dare you activists set arson to a building! Even though the building sells animals meats, that is awful! Would you like
              fire set to a building you lived in? It's fine to fight what you believe in, but that is just ridiculous.



esday 07/19/2006 11:34:51pm
             DINA
             DELKHAZRAGI@HOTMAIL.COM
             UK
             THANKYOU FOR FIGHTING FOR THE ANIMALS.x



esday 07/19/2006 9:37:08pm
             dianna
             gnik_naid@hotmail.com
             maryland
             good to see people working for animals.they don't have a voice and are forgotten each day. down with animal testing and
             down with those who believe taking a life of an animal is justified.



esday 07/19/2006 2:34:22pm
             Hans W. Lussenburg
             coastart@telus.net
             Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
             You have an awesome website, which has helped make my day a wonderful one. I'd love to send you some puppy pictures of
             my own. RSVP how this may be accomplished. Thank you. Hans.



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ay 07/18/2006 9:44:06pm
             maria daly
             jadaly@gofree.indigo.ie
             ireland
             HI GUYS, I THINK THE WORK THAT YOU DO IS FANTASTIC. YOU TRUELY ARE HEROES. MORE POWER TO
             YOU. GOD BLESS.MARIA



ay 07/18/2006 8:36:13pm
             Mariya
             mariya_27615@mail.com
             Raleigh, NC USA
             hey guys I hope this post finds you well.
             I'm serious and interested in participating in direct action to liberate animals. I'm unsure "how" to begin, it would help to hear
             from serious members/liberators please feel free to contact me. I reside in Raleigh, NC USA but also have strong connections
             to Russia. More particularly Khabarovsk (the Far East region), have access to Khabarovsk Medical University labs and
             animal storage facilities. I'm interested in serious responces
             concerning participation in direct actions to liberate animals.Mariya_27615@mail.com or tel# (919)625-4506 Thank



ay 07/18/2006 7:47:47pm
             Richard Ahern
             ahern_richard_@hotmail.com
             Limerick, Ireland
             Thank you for your informative site. Please let me know what I can do to help as I abhor the, thankfully, tiny minority of
             utter savages who damage little animals.



ay 07/18/2006 11:22:13am
             Tim

              UK
              Why do say Britches was "removed"? Is he/she an inanimate object? Wikipedia says the same though, they add some
              diversionary lies-reguritated from the corporate media who regurgitate from the vivisectors and their institutions-that the
              sonar device-cemented on britches head with the wire connected to the wall which was cut by the rescuers to rescue Britches-
              was done by the rescuers and britches eyes were masked over with mascara-these were both exposed not by Wikipedia
              though, they left this out deliberately,but by the Freedom information act, obtaining the research reports which the vivisectors
              wrote and in there own words they repeatedly sewed britches eyes shut because "the first one broke".
             The vivisectors were being funded by a comercial company to market that sonor device-this was the added profit- after
             "testing",this wasn't included in the research grant report,and this would break the humanitarian halo above them,and expose

             ALF: Our webmaster in Korea, who is responsible for the text, responds: "You may choose one of the following reasons why
             I used the Wikipedia text. 1. I was lazy. 2. What I know of the real story of Britches is confidential and difficult to integrate
             into the public version. 3. Both of the above."

             In either case we'd happily replace the text with another version as long as we can direct any questions to a source that is not

             Note: It's amazing to us how much time people spend critiquing our work, yet so few ever want to help. But I suppose the



ay 07/18/2006 10:31:43am
             tara
             taracalvy@hotmail.co.uk
             london
             I am disgusted with the recent greyhound massacre, and need to know if anyone is organising or knows where I can find the
             address of the individual, I know his name is Dave Smith, wife Maureen, a builders merchant from Seaham, County Durham



ay 07/18/2006 3:19:31am
             Bart
             wsu.alf@hotmail.com
             Utah
             To any ALF member:

             I am looking to do a live speaker phone interview with any member of ALF in front of my ethics class.

             The purpose of the interview is to educate college students on the organizational goals and tactics used.

             Please email me at Wsu.alf@hotmail.com is you are interested.

             Thank you



ay 07/17/2006 7:03:26pm




             Do you know what the largest liberation ever was? Like the Guiness world record if you will for liberating animals? When?
             What? Why? How etc.... thanx

             ALF response: Off the top of my head, the largest I can remember were the release of 50,000 farmed fish in the UK, 35,000
             mink in Spain, and 3,500 ducks in Austria.



ay 07/17/2006 3:43:26pm
             FBAV
              fbav_br@yahoo.com.br
              Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
              Thanks, thanks for all, for all lives saved...
              We will never give up!
              Brazilian Front for the Total Abolition of Vivisection - FBAV
              www.fbav.org.br
              Rosely Bastos



ay 07/17/2006 10:00:01am
             Doris
             Doris_Henze@web.de
             http://www.tsv-calpe-niedersachsen.de.vu
             Hallo
             Ich habe Eure E-Mail von Corry Ladda
             begommen und mus sagen eine gute sahre
             auch die seite ist super wir helfen auch im Tierschutz seit 2 Jahren mit
             und haben auch eine Hündin aus Spanien
             http://www.blanca-die-bretonin.de.vu/
             weider so und nicht aufgeben
             Doris

              ALF: Here is the email roughly translated into English:

              Hello
              I has your E-Mail of Corry Ladda
              begommen and to mash to say a good sahre
              also the side is super we to help also in the animal protection since 2 years along
              and to have also a dog from Spain
              http://www.blanca those bretonin.de.vu/
              again so and Doris
              do not give up



y 07/16/2006 9:44:45pm
             Hangatyr

              Switzerland
              Never give up !!
              You are great !!

              ALF !!! The Fight goes on !!!



y 07/16/2006 9:17:49pm
             Mark


              This is the incident the person below is referring to:
              http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_objectid=17388789&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=cat-horror-film-
              youth-locked-up--name_page.html



y 07/16/2006 9:13:03pm



              I agree with Harri's post below. All you need to do is find out the abusers' address, it can't be that hard. Hopefully those in the
              UK will do so (if that's where it occured, I'm not familiar with the case).


y 07/16/2006 2:19:28pm
             deborah whitmore
             deb4550@bigpond.net.au
             victoria
             hey, where are the negative comments? don't let them in?i bet this won't make it.censor it.

              ALF response: You lose. I'm not implying you are a loser, but if you had read much of this guestbook you would have
              realized there are a lot worse negative comments than yours in the guestbook. The photographs of "balaclavad morons" were
              taken to show the world what was rescued. Grandstanding is not usually done anonymously.

              The reason for the delay in this guestbook is that approximately 4 posts out of 5 are advertisements submitted by automatic
              spiders. Additionally, if we allow posts to go through without monitoring them, every so often somebody thinks it is cute to
              make a hundred posts all saying the same thing, usually something brilliant like "I like meat".



y 07/16/2006 2:05:42pm
             deborah whitmore
             deb4550@bigpond.net.au
             victoria
             why the balaclavad morons on the home page? you have lost me. i care about animals not grandstanding.



y 07/16/2006 10:49:35am
             Harri
             westie.walker@hotmail.co.uk
             UK
             Animal liberation and rights groups should go after people like Christopher Lees who was in the news recently for
             gratuitously abused a cat. He and his cohorts threw a cat to the ground from 5 floors up not once, but several times, videoing
             and commentating on their actions and sending the video to their friends.

              This act of unspeakable cruelty was solely for their entertainment, nothing more. This to my mind is the ultimate in animal

              What are they going to get from the laws of this land? A ban on owning an animal, maybe a fine, probably NOT any
              sentence. Will they have any remorse? Unlikely.
y 07/16/2006 9:31:30am
             To Milutin


               Milutin Petrovic, just because KIDS ARE SUFFERING DOES NOT MEAN ANIMALS ARE NOT!! YOU HAVE SUCH A
               FALSE LOGIC! It's illogical to think that because we care about 1 group suffering we can't care about all living beings
               suffering. KIDS AND ANIMALS ARE BOTH GREAT, AND I DON'T WANT EITHER GROUP TO BE KILLED. Sorry
               that you are narrow minded and only care about urself and ur country.



y 07/16/2006 6:55:41am
             Markly

               Europe
               You right the pyschosis of an individual is NOT tied to the activity of a larger group. But then if an individual joins a larger
               group and they now that they do activies
               such as killing animals etc etc then that individual is just has guilty as the group, as the agrument goes meat eaters are as
               guilty has the ones that kill the animals for food. Anyway if the Peta 2 are guilty under law, will the animal rights movement
               these 2 to undergo psychological testing as they have requested many a time on other animal abuse cases.



y 07/16/2006 3:21:56am
             NOELLE
             blndewitch@yahoo.com
             California
             YOU GUYS ARE HEROS' BLESS YOU ALL AND PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, I WILL ALWAYS PASS
             ON AND SUPPORT YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR CARING AND BEING HEROS. ANIMALS CANT SPEAK FOR
             THEMSELVES, BUT WE CAN SPEAK FOR THEM. BRIGHT BLESSINGS



day 07/15/2006 11:09:53am
              Milutin Petrovic
              milutin_petrovic@msn.com
              Belgrade, Serbia
              U guys are total IDIOTS! PETA, ALF, and all of U other idiots better shut up, cause, even here in my contry there are people
              and kids suffering, and U are giving tons and tons of money for the animals! You care if someone is killing chickens, but do
              You care if someone is killing kids? As I said You are money hungry IDIOTS!

               C YA !

               Milutin



day 07/15/2006 5:55:52am
              Skippycows

               Central Florida, USA
             Oops, forgot to include an important bit in my last entry...address is:
             skippycows2006-AT-hotmail-DOT-com



day 07/15/2006 5:53:48am
              SkippyCows

             Central FL
             WAY TO GO, ALF!!! KEEP UP THE STELLAR WORK!!! Anyone in central FL wanna get together for the animals?
             SkippycowsAThotmailDOTcom



day 07/15/2006 3:54:01am
              P38

             next to the border
             You're right Jo..."murderers often get their start by killing innocent animals."
             Here's another example of people killing animals with immunity.
             http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaVictims.cfm

             PS..I will understand if you don't post this link. I cried when I saw the pictures.

             ALF response: Another example of killing with immunity: The United States. Hopefully anyone reading this will understand
             that I'm not really knocking every citizen in the US, because the pyschosis of an individual is NOT tied to the activity of a



day 07/15/2006 3:40:42am
              Irene Nieves
              nievesfamily5199@cox.net
              Rhode Island
              BRAVO! ALF ROCKS! God bless the Liberation for defending those who cannot speak for and defend themselves.

             "The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different." ~Hippocrates

             Animal Rights Activists (ARA) stand for peace, love, justice, family, freedom, equality, compassion and mercy for ALL; we
             stand for a healthy environment, one to be preserved for our children and future generations.

             The day will come when Animal Rights Activists and the entire nation will be witness to all animals living free, without fear
             and suffering, as God intended. One with us...as our brothers Not as property...not as a meal.

             Again, God bless you all, and EVERY ARA, like myself, who believes that ALL non-human animals have rights.
             - The RIGHT not be classified as someone's PROPERTY
             - The RIGHT to be free from abuse
             - The RIGHT not be used as an experiment
             - The RIGHT not be used for food
             - The RIGHT to companionship and love
             - The RIGHT to live in a safe environment
             - The RIGHT to satisfy our basic physical and psychological needs
day 07/15/2006 3:36:20am
              To Rachael Kelly

               UK
               Racheal Kelly, I didn't know your father just as you didn't know the millions of animals tortured for the drugs he took (even
               though there are MANY scientists who believe stem cell research and other methods would be more effective than animal

               You seem to show little care for these animals and their lives. By your logic, I could say: since I didn't know your father, why
               should I assign more value to his life than I would to my father's life, for example?

               I am not trying to sound insensitive, just using your logic which certainly doesn't seem like a holistic way to look at the

               Try looking at ALL life as valuable, not just the lives of your relatives...



day 07/15/2006 0:46:07am
              Mr.T

               USA
               What happened? I read in the news that ALF left a 'molotov cocktail' at a UCLA primate researchers home on June 30th.
               Only trouble was...it was the wrong home. Are you sure you guys aren't terrorists?

               ALF response: It's rather presumptuous of you to assume that we're guys. Maybe we girls need a different word -- terroristas?



day 07/15/2006 0:11:29am
              Jo


               Below is further proof that murderers often get their start by killing innocent animals. When a person is able to torture/kill
               animals with immunity you have to question how little they value all life:

               http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060714/ap_on_re_us/phoenix_serial_killers



y 07/14/2006 9:04:18pm
              Rachael Kelly
              rikarak@hotmail.com
              UK
              I agree with little that yourself and groups such as PETA believe in. You are much the same as terrorists in that you attempt
              to frighten people into stopping research which will save millions.
              If you really want to show your disgust at what is being done to animals, then you should stop taking any form of modern
              medicine, as almost all drugs have been tested on animals before they are tested on humans. Anesthetic, Herceptin,
              Paracetomol... These are just a few of the many pills which were orginally tested on animals.
              Also, my father recently died of melanoma cancer, and without an experimental chemotherapy drug, he would have died
              many months before he actually did. Other drugs such as anti depressants allowed him to live a normal life for longer, and in
              the end morphine and tamezepan controlled and eliminated excruciating pain.
               It is just as immoral to leave a human being in tremendous pain as to research drugs on animals. For those of you with
               children, would you wish that your child was left dieing without any medication that could save his or her life just because
               you didnt agree with the way that the drugs were researched? I hope that one day you will understand the need to use animals
               in experimentation and also stop terrorising thnose scientists and their families who perform this type of research.



y 07/14/2006 6:15:23pm
              Lori
              lorielgreenleaf@yahoo.com
              Florida, USA
              Keep fighting the good fight. Being passive does not always work. We will never even begin to achieve peace on this planet
              until we stop waging war against every other living creature on this planet. Indifference to cruelty and suffering to animals
              creates monsters out of human beings. Love and courage to all ALF members.



y 07/14/2006 5:09:46pm
              Kenton
              crimsonghos7@gmail.com
              Indiana
              Keep up the good work!



y 07/14/2006 10:43:09am
              drdrez
              drdrez@gmail.com
              Budapest/Hungary
              I'd like to say thank you! Great site, great people...



y 07/14/2006 0:19:13am




               What is the ALF position on blackmailing animal abusers and their supporters in order to achieve it's goals

               ALF response: The ALF's official positions are contained in the contents of the ALF credo and guidelines, the only "quasi-
               official" documents generally accepted to represent the ALF's position. The next tier of documents that explain ALF's
               philosophy are the 96 animal rights FAQs. Beyond those, further interpretations are merely opinions of individuals. Your
               interpretation of what actions meet the intent of those documents is as valid as anyone elses, since ALF has no official
               spokesperson (although the media will annoint folks this title for their own reasons).

               With that said, I'll give my personal interpretation based on those documents: ALF guideline number five says "5. To analyze
               the ramifications of all proposed actions, and never apply generalizations when specific information is available." In my
               opinion, the scenario you proposed is too general. I can imagine scenarios where it would cause more harm than good, and



day 07/13/2006 7:46:41pm
              Cats
              carmilla_lucard@hotmail.com
              Canada
              I think you guys, and PETA, and anyone else interested in fighting for the welfare of the most helpless creatures on this
              planet are fantastic. What is wrong with the rest of the world? Selfishness, and superiority complexes, that's what! I met a
              woman years ago, with whom I argued for hours, as SHE thought "God gave man dominion over the animals, and we can do
              whatever we want with them!". Made me sick! Ignorance is bliss I guess. We don't need animal testing anymore than we need
              to hunt for food! You can get quite enough protein and nutrition as a vegetarian, thank you! We need to end the cruelty of
              animal testing, and have stricter regulations on who is allowed to "adopt" animals, as many suffer from abusive homes, and



day 07/13/2006 1:08:58am
             BECKY
             baby_firefly777@yahoo.co.uk
             wales, uk
             I phoned Loreal a few months back to ask them whether they still test their products on animals. They swore blind that they
             don't and that no one else tests products on animals on their behalf or their individual ingredients. I campained against Loreal
             for years but havn't been involved in all that for some time sso I was wondering what the situation actually is. Are they lying?
             And if so how do they get away with lying to consumers? None of their products are labelled as not being tested on animals
             nor the products of their sister companies. I'm also aware thet Nestle are a parent company to loreal and that Lancome,
             Cacharel and a number of other companies belong to them. When I enquired into these companies they said that Lancome
             was 'cruelty free' and they couldn't speak on behalf of Cacharel. If anyone has any information I'd like to know. Thank You.



esday 07/12/2006 7:21:01pm
             KneeC
             txdego@yahoo.com
             USA
             I love ya'll for what you do for the animals! You are my hero!



esday 07/12/2006 6:07:17pm
             S

              USA
              You guys are my heroes you save animals you guys are the best!!!!



esday 07/12/2006 3:21:45pm
             peace
             benedikt.hauer@agi-imc.de
             Germany
             Hey i am looking for someone in GERMANY who is ready to fight! Write me.

              ALF response: Thanks for caring. Please start here: Befreite-tiere
esday 07/12/2006 11:10:41am
             Serena
             info@liberazioneanimale.it
             Italy
             I love you all!

             www.liberazioneanimale.it


esday 07/12/2006 1:16:02am
             J

             USA
             To: roxysocgirl368 and the person from england who signed the ALF guestbook on 7/01/06-2:42pm- both of whom actually
             think animals testing is needed and will help them some day-


             As far as the USA goes- all drugs are required by law to be tested on animals first, before being sold to humans; This is by
             the way a terribly stupid LAW which as you will see
             from my examples below- protects no one. So- If the drug laws in the UK are similar to those in the USA-your statement
             about the meningitis drug being tested on animals- is irrelevant and does not prove any point at all.

             I am a scientist and I would advise you to check out PCRM.com- the Physicians Commitee for Resposible medicine. This
             group is comprised of doctors who are fighting to end animal testing because IT IS UN NECESSARY in todays society- as
             there are alternative methods- computer modeling, etc- which are better indicators of how a drug will work in the human
             body. Animals do not funsction the same way humans do- their metabolic systems, immune systems ,etc-- are vastly diiferent
             than those of humans- Testing on animals for the benefit of Humans- MAKES NO SENSE.

             Remember the flipper kids- that were born in the 60's- because their mothers were prescribed a drug called Thalidomide for
             morning sickness?? This drug which was as usual- 1st tested on animals before going to humans- showed no birth defects in
             animal fetuses-and as we all know- the results showed babies born with severely disfigured-arms. legs- they had no arms or
             legs- Just flippers- like a fish! Thank God for the female USA doctor who didnt buy the animal studies data- and urged the
             FDA to withdraw this drug- which was being widely used in Europe at this time. Thalidomide was thus recalled in the USA.


             Aspirin is taken by humans on a daily basis, and chocolate is eaten by humans on a daily babies- both of which can kill dogs


             Look at all of the drugs that recently have been shown to cause fatal heart attacks in humans-such as the arthritis drug-
             Vioxx. This drug was , as required by US law first tested on animals- and the drug didnt cause heart attacks in the animals -
             the drug then goes on to human clinical trials-where no one dies- but as we all know- when it went onto the US market-what
             happenned to some of the humans???- They died of heart attacks!! If long term studies of the human responses to this drug
             would have been done using Computer modelling and statistical data software- these "side effects" of causing fatal heart

             As stated previously, in the USA- before any drug is tested on humans- it first has to be tested on animals- BUT Are You
             aware of the fact that millions of animals are killed each day by these drug manufacturers- in order for them to determine
             whether -if some stupid human overdoses and takes the enture bottle of meds rathar than the prescribed one pill- will kill the
             stupid person? HOW DO THEY DETERMINE THIS- "lethal dosage"- THEY JUST pour the entire contents of the bottle
             down some poor innocent animals throat- and if the poor animals lives they just keep on adding more pills - until the poor
             innocent being is MURDERED! NIce- Isnt IT- THIS Says so much for the true nature of humanity. BARBARIC!
            Scientists- who claim that animals testing is needed- are ignorant and should not be allowed to practice medicine. MAny of
            them just do not want to change their old ancient ways of testing- They do not want to spend money and the time to learn


            Those People (hunters, slaughterhouse workers, sickos,cruel scientists, etc) who kill animals for whatever reason and actually
            believe that they are not breaking God's commandment- Thou shall not kill- SHOULDNT BE surprised if in the end-God
            punishes them justly- for thier breaking of his commandment. After all the commandment states- THou Shall Not kill-Period!
            It doesnt give exclusions to this rule- such as Thou shall not kill other humans- but go ahead and kill as many non humans as



ay 07/11/2006 7:38:01pm
             Tim

            Uk
            Why do you have Cristian Barnhard under the vegetarian section? This man was a vivisector and arch torturer,this site
            becomes more and more a mouthpeice for vivisection. Explain,please!

            ALF response: We'll make any positive ideas you have, but we'll ignore any comments that less than 1% of our readers agree
            with. Let's take a poll: How many readers agree with Tim and think that this site is PRO-vivisection?

            Yes, Mr. Bernard was a vivisectionist. He said: "I had bought two male chimps from a primate colony in Holland. They lived
            next to each other in separate cages for several months before I used one as a [heart] donor. When we put him to sleep in his
            cage in preparation for the operation, he chattered and cried incessantly. We attached no significance to this, but it must have
            made a great impression on his companion, for when we removed the body to the operating room, the other chimp wept
            bitterly and was inconsolable for days. The incident made a deep impression on me. I vowed never again to experiment with

            Many people find his words inspiring. If you don't, then shame on you. Only the few folks who were vegan from birth have a
            right to criticize those who have changed for the better.



ay 07/11/2006 5:32:54pm
             Chicken Little
             chickenlittle@disney.com

            We, the liberated chickens of the world, thank ALF. Here's hoping that in the near future chickens and humans will walk
            'wing in hand' through life. Free from tyranny and oppression. As a young egg I thought all humans were alike...but I was

            PS..Please advise PETA that liberating us, only to be killed by our liberators, is not really a form of animal rights but instead,
            animal welfare. Also tell PETA to stop promoting gas chambers as the best way to kill us...we'd rather not be killed at all.

            ALF: That's pretty good writing for a chicken (typing, I suppose, by the "hunt and peck" method.) But you'll have to peck out
            the information to PETA yourself. We've never met nor communicated with them.



ay 07/11/2006 1:45:52pm
             Amanda

            Ontario, Canada
              I have been a vegan, a member of PETA and the toronto Veg Society for a little while now. I have signed numerous
              petitions, donated money, etc, etc. I took one look at your website and see you have done more in 1 night of liberation than I
              have done in a year of pencil pushing and ethical debates. I wish you luck and you have my full support.



ay 07/10/2006 9:09:14pm
             Brianne
             Brianne00@yahoo.com
             BC, CANADA
             You guys kick ass. I am so impressed with all that i've read. Its about time we take it all into our own hands. If the
             government isnt going to do anything about it then we will! Keep Up the great work. I wish we had something like this in



ay 07/10/2006 5:21:02pm
             POLICE

              we're everywhere
              I was very disapointed to see that Dr. Vlasak turn down the FBI's offer to speak to a class of police executives. I will be
              attending this class and was looking forward to meeting him face to face.

              Maybe they'll bring in Steven Best. Although, not as aggressive in animal rights as Vlasak, he shares some of the same
              extremists views. Best and I have met before at Wendy's in El Paso...I was the arresting officer.

              ALF response: I'm very happy to hear that they are finally arresting people for eating at Wendy's. Keep up the good work.



ay 07/10/2006 5:05:37pm
             Raffaele P. O'Neill
             animalcare@email.com
             Illinois, Chicago
             You guys are making a huge impact!!!

              www.myspace.com/protectanimals



ay 07/10/2006 12:23:02am
             Nadine Eschweiler
             N.Eschweiler
             Germany / NRW / Eschweiler
             Hello

              This page is wonderful
              i say Thank you

              a lot of greets from Germany
y 07/09/2006 9:39:42pm
             Sue

               Michigan
               roxysocrgirl368@aol.com, are you 8 or something? What you wrote was very superficial and didn't really address the issue
               of animal testing or what measures should be made to stop it.

               You used general statements like "what you do is over the top". Um, ok...I think torturing innocent animals is "over the top."
               Instead of just reciting some rhetoric about obeying the law, why don't you learn to think for yourself and question the way
               things are? The world isn't perfect and will never improve unless we realize that certain actions deemed unacceptable
               (burning down a lab) have to be done to create the changes we desire.



y 07/09/2006 9:09:50pm
             epona

               edinburgh
               Hey there,
               Not written for a wee while,new set up is awesome.For some reason I still cant get into the forum, have had this problem for
               Keep up the fantastic work guys,I think you are fantastic.

               ALF: Regarding the forum: It's probably best if you start over with a new user name. I don't see a problem with your account
               at this end. We know the software glitchy, but if we change it we may lose all the posts, so we endure its idiosyncracies.



y 07/09/2006 8:36:51am
             lb
             animalrights@fmail.co.uk
             UK
             What can I say...except take heart in the fact that there are so many people who applaud your actions against animal cruelty.
             Keep on fighting the bastards who would try to stop you and keep on fighting for animals everywhere!



day 07/08/2006 7:59:05pm
              KATIYA
              KATIYA@Yahoo.com
              U.S
              I think the Charities like the Wellcome Trust, MRC, Huntingdon should be questioned. How much money is made by
              slaughtering of Monkeys,Mice and other special species. These Charities help Universities like Oxford to conduct Lab
              experiments.You may be surprise how much money is spent on funding Animal torture and molested.



day 07/08/2006 6:29:22pm
              Kendra
              kendar_b@hotmail.com
              Victoria
              I completely admire what you guys do! Even though it is illegal. I would go to jail for them.
               I don't understand how people who work in salughterhouses and labs are able to sleep at night, knowing what they are doing
               to these poor animals.

               I decided to go vegetarian about 2 and a half years ago and I also decided not to use products tested on animals about a year
               ago. I was blind to what was going on in the labs and that animal testing for cosmetics was actually still happening. So when
               I found out, I decided to stop buying them.

               It was hard for me to go vegetarian since my family was so into eating meat and so anti tofu and soy milk. I would open the
               fridge door and a hunk of meat the size of half a pig would fall on me. It was disgusting! Plus now I live with 2 guys who eat
               a lot of meat, so it is still a bit hard. But I manage.

               I once sent an e-mail to L'oreal telling them that they should be ashamed of themselves for testing on animals and then I sent
               one to Peta after L'oreal sent me one back saying they don't test. The e-mail that Peta showed me, was identical to the one
               that L'oreal sent me. So it wasn't even a personal e-mail, it was like a robot.

               Anyways...Keep doing what you're doing! I love you guys!



day 07/08/2006 4:34:08pm
              Jan Fredericks
              Godscre@msn.com
              Wayne, NJ
              Thank you for setting the captives free.
              If people only knew the suffering animals go through, they would choose compassion. It's all big business and fear running
              laboratories. We make ourselves as gods thinking that we have the right to inflict pain on animals. We are not the center of
              the universe. These animals belong to their Creator who is kind and compassionate towards all His works. We are not the
              responsible stewards of them we are called to be and will be held accountable some day. It's all legalized animal cruelty that



day 07/08/2006 11:11:02am
              SUZANNE

               SKIPTON ENGLAND
               PLEASE will all AR activists attend the next SPEAK demo in OXFORD on 22.07.06, no excuses please, I work in excess of
               40 hours per week but I will still find the time to be in oxford. Will YOU?

               See home page for link to details.



day 07/08/2006 9:14:14am
              Pedro Villela
              pedro_mutley@hotmail.com
              Brazil
              good job guys
              thank you

               by the way, any chance that i may find a ALF in brazil?
              This page lists the associations that support animal rights in all the countries that we know about. Brazil is
              included. If anyone knows of others, we'd appreciate the informaiton: Direct Action



y 07/07/2006 8:44:18pm
              Katherine B. Maynard
              kmaynard@fastmail.fm

              thank you



day 07/06/2006 9:33:14pm
             Lynne Childers
             dpardue@pardueinc.com




day 07/06/2006 8:08:40pm
             This site is disturbing.
             this1guy@yougysarecrackpots.com
             Tacoma, WA
             That video is very disturbing. You guys are completley off your rocker.

              Animal Liberation Front...yeesh.



ay 07/04/2006 8:25:29pm
             ?
             roxysocrgirl368@aol.com

              to tell the truth, some of the things that your organization does is very wrong. for example, burning down and research lab.
              doing this was totally wrong. i do believe that some animals should not be tested but animal testing helps us find a cure of
              certain diseases. the research done on animals can help the humans in the future to cure the worst diseases. the truth is,
              animal testing will help in the long run. so you people should not b doing such dirastic things as burning down a research lab.



ay 07/04/2006 5:54:35pm
             Giorgia

              London, UK
              Thanks for your saintly fight to give animals hope for an ounce of respect, and for showing that, in the universal balance,
              there are humans worthy of life, in harmony with all life's inhabitants.

              The saddest thought goes to all the animal (and plant) species extinct already, by our disgusting, grasping greed for furs,
              comfort and huge range of selfish pursuits. Talk about getting priorities checked out!
              Violence and direct intimidation are a must towards cowardly people who make of violence to innocent, defenceless
              creatures their life: if we don't speak the same language, they're not going to understand.

              Give a breather to the world: spay humans, not cats! We're too many, in this WAY overrated, self-obsessed, spinning mad,
              murderous species.



ay 07/04/2006 5:32:31pm
             Richard
             raultalbot7@yahoo.com
             USA
             Yes the "Sample letter" had some good points about fireworks and animals, but then you go off topic with the "war" thingy.
             Then there's more dogmatic Anarchist freedom ranting below...which made me laugh. Thanks for the humorous antidote.

              Next time...vote anarchist! :)



ay 07/04/2006 0:34:52am
             juliette
             eh@eh.org

              really enjoyed your 4th o' July sample letter. would be more effective if "two" was spelled right in the first paragraph. very
              good points made throughout.



ay 07/03/2006 11:41:27pm
             dot
             dottie402002@yahoo.co.uk
             stirling




ay 07/03/2006 7:11:05pm
             Pam Smith
             shemagick@hotmail.com
             Asheville, Nc
             So greatful to find like-minded, thinking people. Humanity must earn respect and our treatment of animals is a valuable
             yardstick as to how well we are doing.


ay 07/03/2006 6:08:58pm
             Becca
             beccalynn14bb@yahoo.com
             USA
             What you do is amazing- animals do deserve the same treatment as humans as well as our consideration and respect. Thank
             you for believing so strongly in their worth and risking your own freedom to secure theirs.
day 07/01/2006 11:55:48pm
              Gerri
              everythingmumsie@yahoo.com
              Sultan WA
              Bless you for working so hard on the animals behalf.



day 07/01/2006 2:42:15pm
              ????

              england
              firstly i must say that i admire anybody who feels strongly about a subject that they are prepared to debate and argue their

              Hopefully you will take a mment to listen to the other side.

              I had a close family member who, when at a very young age contracted meningitis. he was, according to the doctors, '2 hours
              from dying'. The only thing that saved his life was drugs administered to him on arrival at the hospital. Those drugs had, i am

              Although I understand and respect your views, i find it hard to conclude that my close family member should have died so as
              not to caused harm to animals. He is now several years older and living a very happy life.

              My point being that there ARE advances that have been made through this type of reseach and that is undenyable.

              I do realise that there are institutes out ther that may not treat the animals as well as they deserve to be treated but this cannot
              be said for all organisations. If serious malpractice was common then all these places would be shut down as there are laws to
              prevent these things happening.

              I must also say that however strongly you feel about your cause, I do not think that any organisation OR it's suppoters should
              condone violence or any other criminal act. this only works against you because people base their opinions on what they see
              in the media (rightly or wrongly this is fact).



day 07/01/2006 12:57:58am
              D.K
              kalioglou@seznam.cz

              Vivat A.L.F !!!
              http://blog.lide.cz/kalioglou/



day 07/01/2006 2:45:59am
              Tim

              UK
              Dr Moneim Fadali has authored,"Animal Experimentation:A Harvest Of Shame".

              Professor Pietro Croce has authored,"Vivisection Or Science:A Choice To Make".
Dr Tony Page has authored,"Vivisection Unveiled".

May be if you have read Hans Ruesch's works,you could include from his third book(1000 Doctors(and many more) against
vivisection) some of the inumerable quotes from Scientists and Medical People-from 1825 to 1989-on your website?

Hans Ruesch previously ran an organization called CIVIS,which previously distributed globally CIVIS foundation reports-
which includes reports by Professor Pietro Croce,Dr Hartinger etc.The entirety of the reports are on the British Anti

http://www.bava.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CIVISReports.html


ALF response: Here we have over 60 quotes specific to vivisection: Vivisection quotes

It includes the following Hans quote: Because of their highly sensitive nervous systems and outstanding physical endurance,
cats are the preferred animals for particularly painful and long-lasting neurological experiments... devised by plainly

If there are any AR quotes that are not included that you think are compelling, please send them along.
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y 06/30/2006 1:48:11pm
              Tim

               UK
               I like your new look website and your general sentiments though i'm disturbed that in the forum section under vivisection,at
               the end,you put "for medical advances",why are you sustaining vivisection by using disinformation like this?


               ALF response: Thanks for the good catch. I can't reach the forum (not my job, man!) but I'll have them put "medical
               advances" in quotes. Most folks probably know that whenever we say that companies test on animals for [reasons listed] and
               for medical advances that is the reason they give for testing on animals. Just as hunters kill for sport. Hopefully stating
               someone else's reasons doesn't imply we agree with them. As you know, our position is that whether there are medical
               advances or not is NOT relevant anyway.

               Tim: And why do you have the Guardian as a link when they promote vivisection and probably profit from it?-through
               advertising money.

               ALF response: We link to, and report stories from, many sources. We have to give them proper credit or we'd be
               plagiarizing. Most of them make money through advertising and presumably would take money from anybody. If we had
               more time we'd put a disclaimer with every story explaining that we don't like the source. We don't. We also report stories
               with information that we only partially agree with. We can't legally modify them. We also don't spend a lot of time
               editorializing them. However, you may do so, and we will post your response.

               Tim: Have you never heard of Hans Ruesch, Professor Pietro Croce or Dr Moneim Fadali?

               ALF response: I've read Ruesch's work a very long time ago. I haven't read Croce's or Fadali's latest books about vivsection.
               Perhaps you could do a 'book review' on these and we'll post them in our literature section.



y 06/30/2006 9:51:26am
              R!ck
              rickstoned@gmx.de
              germany
              the page is very nice, but i think the fight against animal cruelty will never end, but every life must rescue !!

               Animal Liberation NOW

               greetz
               rick

               http://rickstoned.repage.de



y 06/30/2006 1:38:02am
              Chris

               Http://furryfriendsrescue.bravehost.com/
               Thank You! I am a big supporter of your work and your ideas. Don't ever stop, we believe in you.
day 06/29/2006 6:44:19pm
             madde
             lille_bie88@hotmail.com
             norway
             hello.. i think what you do is a great thing. i love animals! everyone should be greatefoul fore what you do for animals...



day 06/29/2006 6:23:44pm
             Pam Little
             pamlovin@hotmail.com
             Canada
             I just wanted to put a thank you out there to all of you for all of the brave, heartwrenching and very important work that you
             do. I love you all! You are true heroes!



day 06/29/2006 4:43:59pm
             Angel
             proteanfluidity@yahoo.com or www.myspace.com/ilikemysocks
             Den. CO
             I live my life by this; If I can save just one, even if I have to sacrifice my life in the process, and the life I save can live on
             with true freedom, then I will have lived for that life.



day 06/29/2006 9:41:02am
             Vernon Wolf
             vernon_wolf_photo@yahoo.com
             South Africa
             I need help!!
             For the last two years my friends and I have been fighting to bring an end to canned hunting in South Africa and
             neighbouring countries. This, the most vile of practises, have gotten completely out of control and the industry is in a growth
             spurt like never before. Government eventually became involved and this practise is now suppose to be illegal in most
             scenario's and a set of rules and guidelines have been published. The problem is that none of the official authorities seem to
             be monitoring the industry and I know for a fact that this form of hunting is still advertised as a tourist lure and widely
             practised. It is incredible difficult to interfere with or stop these expeditions as locations are mostly rural and farms cover
             vast pieces of land. Operators within this industry have no problem with violence and we have even been shot at on occasion.

               Please would someone that have dealt with similar situations or with more knowledge on measures to curb this contact me
               via email. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Viva le ALF, Vernon Wolf



day 06/29/2006 5:58:32am
             Ryan

               Massachusetts
               Sup Arsonists?
day 06/29/2006 3:37:22am
             Ally

              Scotland
              I know this may sound simple but why doesn't all the ALF come together one night and go to HLS and just destroy it once
              and for all.The police wouldn't be able to stop everybody before a lot of damage had been done. This has been shown before
              by anarchist demos that the police have trouble with. Great website Long live The ALF.



esday 06/28/2006 11:10:18pm
             Ana Maria Zecchini
             ana_zecchini@yahoo.com.br
             Sao Paulo - Brazil
             I love this site!
             Congratulations!



esday 06/28/2006 7:07:08pm
             Joe
             tubedisasters2@yahoo.com
             Los Angeles, Ca
             This site is the best....good info....good recipes...Keep up the good work.....thumbs up for the *A.L.F.*



esday 06/28/2006 6:53:26pm
             Jordo

              UK
              Wow, I love the new layout, the old one was kinda boring. Now the look is as good as the content! A.L.F forever!

              ALF response: We have a long way to go but we're overhauling the appearance and reorganizing all the material. This
              activity was inspired by a great web designer.



esday 06/28/2006 2:20:02pm
             Rain
             anwari_raincrystal@yahoo.com
             California
             I support what you all are doing and think only action will save the animals in need who can't help themselves.



esday 06/28/2006 10:06:06am
             Chris
             thematrixhassu@aol.com
             california usa
              this is a very informative site, ive been veggie for over a year and vegan for over half that time...i like this site very much



esday 06/28/2006 5:33:35am
             JAYP
             jenprest1@aol.com
             Pennsylvania- USA
             IN regards - "Back Window" from Orlando Florida-guest book signed on 6/22/06

              Your praise of the ASPCA is totally unwarranted-
              In Pennsylvania- namely Montgomery County PA- The ASPCA-shelter in Roslyn PA- kills animals even when the people
              who bring them there -tell them that they do not want the animals killed and they will take them back before letting the
              ASPCA kill them.

              My brother took a stray mother cat and 2 of her kittens there- stating not to kill any of them- as he would take them back and
              let them live in his yard- where he found them- and he would provide them with food and water.
              They agreed and assured him they wouldnt kill the animals.
              Well NoT Only did they kill the mother cat- for no reason -but after having my brother scream at them- and tell them he was
              going to pick up the kittens now- They went ahead and killed them too.

              The ASPCA would rathar kill off its animals, then lie to everyone and make up false reasons as to why they did waht they did-
              than find homes for the animals. They are killing animals who havent even been there for a full week.



ay 06/27/2006 7:09:49pm
             isabel
             missizzii@yahoo.com.au
             australia
             you guys are awesome! thank you for what you do..... more power to you!!!



ay 06/27/2006 3:42:32am
             ivan
             xivancorex@hotmail.com
             chile stgo
             hola chicos

              hago lo que sea por formar parte de la lucha

              GO alf =)



ay 06/26/2006 5:50:33am
             Richard
             raultalbot7@yahoo.com
             usa
             Becky says..."Most serial killers begin by torturing and killing animals before they move on to humans. This sais it all."
               Whats that say about PETA's killing machine? Without even trying to find them homes, PETA has killed tens of thousands of
               these animals to date. Should I worry about PETA members becoming serial killers? Or because they love animals....they
               could never kill a human.

               Serial killer Maturino Resendiz, also called the "Railroad Killer", is an animal lover...claiming he's an environmentalists and
               love wolves and other wild animals.

               Should I worry about ALF/ELF members becoming serial killers? Delinquent acts such as pyromania, theft, were present in
               the childhoods of most serial killers.

               ALF response: If you know somebody who hurts a sentient being for entertainment it's very likely they don't care about you
               either. Thus, you should worry whenever your back is to them.

               Extrapolating this beyond individuals, for example to groups that euthanize or to entire states that use capital punishment, is
               illogical. More generally, it's illogical to believe that the individuals of any group share identical sick character traits. With
               the possible exception of hunters, of course.



y 06/25/2006 4:56:13pm
             GLC


               I sent some of these cute animal pictures to my friend. I like your site!



day 06/24/2006 3:33:47am
              jlowe
              janet2lowe@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              I know it's Friday, but as I was reading a couple of the last posts on this site I couldn't help but think, is everyone drunk? A
              couple of people from "down south" seem to think it's a race issue. Sorry baayybbbee but I just can't equate slaughtering
              innocent animals to a black person not being able to eat chicken. Actually, I can't even tell you why I am even giving it any
              response at all. It's been a bad day and I guess my tired mind will respond to just about anything even that. It is easier to just
              skip thru the really stupid remarks on this site but sometimes the vast amount of ONE persons stupidity deserves one remark.




day 06/24/2006 1:29:45am
              becky

               wales,uk
               In case i didnt make myself clear in my last e-mail, it is aimed at tony collins in london. tony you are truly a total wanker.



day 06/24/2006 1:24:40am
              becky

               wales, uk
              bobby/toni from london, whoever you are. You are an immature, braindead, mindless wanker and a poor excuse for a human
              being. animal cruelty not unlike child cruelty is inexcusable, moronic and sickeningly perverted behaviour and is only
              practiced by people who are totally lacking in moral and social conciense and who in order to feel less inadequete and more
              powerful they inflict misery and suffering upon deffenceless, creatures weaker than themselves thus giving themselves the
              same feeling of euphoria a rapist gets when they force themselves upon their victims. These animals cry out in pain, they
              suffer to the last and their cries are either ignored or enjoyed. Most serial killers begin by torturing and killing animals before
              they move on to humans. This sais it all. Toni from london, you are a moron and as such not intelligent or sentient enough a
              being to even try and converse on this message board so do yourself and all others concerned a generous favour and fuck off!




y 06/23/2006 9:50:34am
              Ewan
              explosive_amp@hotmail.co.uk
              North East(UK)
              I strongly Support ALF, i am prepared to anything to help.



y 06/23/2006 5:57:57am
              Kamryn Elizabeth
              kamryn_elizabeth@aol.com
              USA
              You have an outstanding good and well structured site. I enjoyed browsing through it.



y 06/23/2006 0:07:09am
              B00TANEB00TUS

              down south
              ...Yo, why yu people messin with Beyonce...she shoulda taken one of those sushi knives and sliced them PETA people the
              fuc up...I'm kinda sick of 'em and all tree eaten fools...Don't wear fur! Don't eat chicken!...They really hit Black folks hard
              with that one...'cause Black folks gonna eat some dayum chicken...Don't eat tuna, cause dolphins might have been
              injured...Man, WTF about the ethical treatment of Black folks?...Tell 'em to go to Alaska and tell the Eskimos not to wear fur
              and to throw blood on them...They'll end up with a harpoon in the azz...

              ALF response: Did you drink out of the same glass as the poster below? Our response is the same.


day 06/22/2006 10:18:53pm
             Back Window

              Orlando Florida
              I am a strong supporter of animals, and lead with 5 major companies that fight animal rights, the one company we DO NOT
              support is Peta. why? Peta saved 2103 animals last year, they KILLED 1325, 2/3rd of the animals they rescued. so total of
              778 animals survived peta, peta is power hungry and focus's on things they have no power over at all, but if you look at
              aspca, they fight crime , they make every day people aware of animals, this is what peta wants to end: Helper dogs, thats right
              helper dogs for the blind, work dogs (police k-9's) Zoo's, and if you guys own pets, you better set them free b.c peta doesnt
              want pets, you guys want a total liberation of animals, u know what that means? all animals are free, and given rights, hell, all
              the animals well end up in an animal prison, for killing other animals, even humans, they will be fucking, and running around
              taking over the human race.

              dont get me wrong i hate cops, i support getting the word out at all means neccessary, if i knew a neigbor treating animals
              bad, he would find his tires slashed. but you have to look at the bare facts of peta. theres alot they dont want you to know,
              theres alot everwhere that people dont want you to know, everyone has skeletons in their closets.

              ALF response: Why are you telling us this? Well, for whatever reason you did we hope you feel better. There is no
              requirement within ALF to support any other group. Heck, some of us even support the Deomcratic Socialist Party. Why am
              I telling you? Only because it makes ME feel better.



day 06/22/2006 8:13:53pm
             Bobby


              To frightened to voice normal opinions! My baby has more sensible opinions than you. Tonysmells2001@yahoo.co.uk. Lets
              hear what you have to say. I hope you have got a reasoned arguement. We don't need violence like you and your friends have
              offered before.

              ALF response: Jokes would be too easy here.



day 06/22/2006 7:48:21pm
             Bobby
             Tonysmells2001@yahoo.co.uk
             Brum



day 06/22/2006 7:39:20pm
             Tom Nuttell
             T19nut@hotmail.com
             Midlands
             I am prepared to do anything to help any sort of animal. From the Blue Whale to the Ameoba all I want to do is hug and kiss
             them. I want to be able to help in any way so if anyone feels that I may be an asset in any business I will be pleased to help.




day 06/22/2006 1:55:52pm
             Cathey

              Norfolk, VA
            I just wanted to let you guys know that I completely support what you do and you have my utmost respect. You get a bad rep
            sometimes, but it's a small price to pay for all the good you do for the animals. Thank you for all your hard work and
            devotion and for giving a voice to those who cannot defend themselves.



esday 06/21/2006 4:48:36pm
             Wheels

            USA
            "Economic damage includes boycotting their products and picketing."
            OK, I can understand how picketing might have some effect on a business, but how does a bunch of herbivores, boycotting a
            product that they never use, change or effect anything? That would be like me boycotting the Boca Company
            products....never eat it, never will. Boy, I bet I have that company shaking in their leather boots...silly, isn't it?

            ALF response: Many companies make more than one product. If one is not careful they could buy their vegan product from a
            company that does tests on animals or sells foie gras. Also there are household products, cosmetic products, clothes, tobacco,
            etc to consider.



esday 06/21/2006 11:25:21am
             Markly

            Europe
            After seeing the fifth guideline of the credo
            To analyze the ramifications of all proposed actions, and never apply generalizations when specific information is available.


            and reading notes in the guest book that there are no such things as alf hit lists and all that I have to wonder about

            http://www.animalliberationfront.com/ALFront/AgainstALF/CCFSupporters.htm

            No doult such a display of companies that gives a foe some money 4 years old seems without any other update from that date
            would rather imprint in the minds of ALF supports that these places need targeting even if they have nothing to do with the
            meat trade, as far as I know CCF supports other things as tobacco, soft drinks and alcohol consumption and it would rather
            be a good generalization that some of these companies have nothing to do with animal products (obmitted that some with the
            words meat give the game away).

            There could be any number of reasons why these companies did not email back,
            ranging from spam filters to invalid email accounts, no longer used email accounts or that the Mike wrote it in such a
            profound or obscene way that they could not understand him or want to write back and that simply saying that if they did not
            email back that the answer is assumed yes, raither seems hmm how can I put it "crap logicial reasoning" something in which
            the ALF agruements thought against.

            I take it if the webmasters (all 8 is it now?) of this site cannot verify there home addresses, so I can ask them in person face to
            face about stuff on here, in the guestbook I can assume that everything said on this website is a pack of lies?

            ALF response: Nothing on any web site should be believed unless it can be supported by reliable data. Any blanket
            statements are probably wrong. Anything subjective is only opinion.
              The logic of animal rights philosophy, like all logic, is objective, not subjective and can be challenged only with rules of
              logic.

              ALF's guidelines state that companies that abuse animals should be targetted. Economic damage includes boycotting their
              products and picketing. These are factual guidelines for ALF membership. The media's constant focusing on the actions of
              extremists probably only scares the abusers more than they should be. We have mixed emotions about that.



ay 06/20/2006 9:21:31pm
             Barbara Wallace
             barbara_nailsea@hotmail.com
             England
             Seems some of your guest book contributors (Anon and Casey) think human beings are wonderful and much superior to
             animals. Strange then that 99% of all the suffering in this sad world is actually caused by humans – inflicting their evil not
             only on animals, but also on their own kind!

              I can’t really be bothered to comment much on the low-intelligence individual - Tony from London. Just to say he should
              learn to express himself without resorting to swearing.

              Anyone who wants to know the real facts regarding animal experiments should visit www.curedisease.net or
              www.uncaged.co.uk – just two excellent websites that actually give true facts about this whole dirty business.

              The media emphasis is always on how necessary it is to use animals to find cures for terrible human diseases. Great if it
              actually worked! Just how many cures have been found over the last 50 years or so (at the expense of millions of suffering
              and dead animals) directly as a result of animal research? Can we have facts and figures please dear scientists?

              It is all a money-making, corrupt, farce – and they know it. As one of the big pharmaceutical companies said in an unguarded
              moment – there is no profit in ‘curing’ disease – only in ‘treating’ it.

              And what about all the chemicals poured into eyes, rubbed into skin, forced down gullets of hapless animals just so huge
              companies can manufacture yet another pointless and unnecessary “new” product – at great profit of course.

              Despite it’s public statements, Huntingdon Life Sciences – (and other such heinous research centres) spend more time on
              toxicity testing of chemicals, pesticides, food additives etc than they do on the so-called “cures” for illness. They are not
              saving our lives – but rather, in many circumstances causing more illnesses. HLS is helpting to put products on the market
              that can actually cause cancer in the long run – not cure it!

              How many animals suffered and died at HLS during their “testing” of Sucralose (the sweetener marketed as Splenda). They
              never put that in the Newspapers.

              How about tests carried out at military research establishments such as Porton Down in UK? 100,000 animals subjected to
              caustic burns, nerve gas exposure, blistering agents and biological viruses. Another example of wonderful humanity – never
              happy unless trying to find new ways to exterminate each other! And who suffers in the first instance – hapless animals.




ay 06/20/2006 4:20:46am
             Kellye' Shaw
             kels2greyhounds@comcast.net
             Lehigh Acres, Florida USA
              You guys & gals rock!!! I have the utmost respect for what you do. I have 2 resued ex-raceing Greyhounds. I just wish I
              could do more for them. Florida needs to wake the hell up when it comes to ANIMAL WELFARE & RIGHTS!!!!!



ay 06/20/2006 0:58:58am
             kimharnish
             kimharnish@socal.rr.com
             Orange County....Calif.
             Heroes from underground...ALF



ay 06/20/2006 0:35:41am
             Deborah Kay Garrett
             whitefiremystic@aol.com
             Mobile, Alabama
             There are no words to explain the appreciation I have for your courage and love for all life. After seeing your work on the 60
             minutes program, I will pray for you daily and earnestly to be productive, protected and prolific in your endeavors to reveal
             the truth and to save the innocent. In this way I can help. Thank you all.



ay 06/19/2006 9:07:00pm
             shewolfeyes
             tomkar@highstream.net
             Union, South Carolina
             Keep up the good work. And do whatever it takes to get the needless and repititous experimenting on animals to stop. How
             about experimenting on the prisoners on death row. they are good for nothing, and costing the states lots of money.
             Expecially child sexpredators.



ay 06/19/2006 7:43:04pm
             Casey
             CaseyUSA15@aol.com
             new mexico
             pfftt......you all are crazy...i have seen what you have done on 60 Minutes.....you all are alitte over the top......i heard you all
             are going to start killing PEOPLE just for animals......thats a sign right there showing you all are some type of drug if you
             want to kill people just for an animal....dont get me wrong...i love animals too but its not worth taking a HUMAN life......that
             is all i have to say for now.
             ~casey

              ALF response: What you heard is false but it is a very common lie spread by our enemies who have about a million times
              more money than we do -- and they are spending it.



ay 06/19/2006 4:48:59pm
             Cherrie
             chercrow@aol.com
             Massachusetts
              I think the ALF ROCKS! Keep up the great work that you do. I try to do EVERYTHING in my power to help animals, and
              educate human beings about different animal rights issues- sometimes people are so ignorant that it's very frustrating...Keep
              up the great work, and you have my support, always!



ay 06/19/2006 2:57:42am
             jlowe
             trijinx1@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             To Jean in Ygst, Ohio: Go baby! At the age of 8 you figured out what so many people die never knowing. It took me till the
             age of 10 or 11 to know it was wrong to eat animals but my 30's before I'd actually stop. Good for you, YOU GET IT!
             Karma baby and you deserve to be proud of how you live.



ay 06/19/2006 2:49:28am
             jlowe
             trijinx1@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             To anon (coward) Idiot. People were not given animals to torture , kill, mutilate and consume. People were given each other
             to torture, kill mutilate and even consume. Animals are no longer needed for warmth, no longer needed for their fur, they are
             no longer needed for our sustanance. The human race can survive without harming any living being, meaning human, or
             animal or even you. I get so tired of you uneducated, unknowing, unanything spewing trash from your keyboard and being to
             cowardly to call yourselves anything but anon, although in truth that is who and what you are in this life. Annonymous.
             Please stay that way I would hate to know the piece of trash that dwells like a worm inside your tiny brain. Karma baby.




ay 06/19/2006 2:22:38am
             jlo
             trijinx1@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             To Tony-London When I say you are an asshole I say you are an asshole, and might I say YOU ARE ONE MAJOR
             ASSHOLE. Don't mince words learn how to say what you mean before you let people see something you TRIED to be witty
             with but failed. Karma baby.



ay 06/19/2006 0:33:01am
             Anon
             N/A
             N/A
             I really don't know what the controversy is all about. I like to eat meat. God gave us animals for our survival. He also gave us
             vegetables. He also gave us the knowledge to use animals to experiment with for OUR SURVIVAL.. I for one would rather
             an animal be experimented on than a human being. Animals are beautiful.GOD
             gave us animals as a source of food, and if they can help extend the life of you or me or one of your family members through
             research I think it would be worth it.
ay 06/19/2006 0:32:07am
             jean
             roseoeire@aol.com
             youngstown ohio
             To whom it may concern, I watched sixty minutes and never knew an organization like yours existed. I am a 73 year woman
             and have been a vegetarian for 65 years. When I found put where meat came from, at eight years of age, I stopped eating it! I
             am angry at what has happened to animals. I wish I could help. I have rescued so many animals. It is getting harder as I age.
             But, go to it. I am so excited to know that you exist. I literally would like to eradicate those who cause harm to any helpless
             creature. I remember a line from some song that says," they tear down paradise and put up a parking lot." My young
             granddaughter is a Vegan and is going to university for Environmental studies. I admire Dr. Vlasak. I am a nurse and I know
             some doctors are very compassionate about animal welfare. Sending love and keep it going.I just went out to fill the bird
             feeders, Inside the feeder was a very small Finch,trapped. How frightened it was. Not knoing that it was in safe hands. As I
             held it, I had to give a smal thrust to get it to fly to a very close tree. Life is good when protection is in the hands of
             compasionate human beings!Sening best wishes. jean
             Jean



ay 06/19/2006 0:18:30am
             jeff madden
             jeffomadden@aol.com
             attleboro, ma.
             keep up the fight, i would love to join in!



y 06/18/2006 7:37:47pm
             Barb

              US
              Thank you ALF. God bless you all. I believe in you and what you do. I do my best where I live to educate those around me
              but I wish I could do more. My husband nd I extend out gratitude for all you do to help those without a voice. Thank you
              from the bottom of my heart :)



y 06/18/2006 8:26:12am
             Tony
             tony_collins@hotmail.com
             London
             Hi people (when I say people I actually mean SCUM). I hope you are all well (when I say well I mean I hope you are all
             f**king sick as you are sick in the head). I wish you all the best (when I say the best I mean I hope you all rot in hell). You
             lot who victimise people deserve to be locked away for years with the world's scientist testing all the sh*t on you. W**KERS




y 06/18/2006 3:14:27am
             jlo
             trijinx1@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             To Epona and all the rest of you that keep feeding into this asshole named wheels, stop giving him what he wants. He wants
             your "heartfelt" comments and your pleading with him to change his "evil ways". STOP GIVING THIS JERK WAD WHAT
             HE WANTS. He probably bags groceries at some Piggly Wiggly in Bumfuck, Texas and has never seen a slaughterhouse. If
             he is such the cowboy he claims to be lets see him post his address on this site or even his real name, I doubt if this fucking
             excuse grocery bagger even has an address to post. Grow some balls.



day 06/17/2006 8:34:57pm
              MARK AND LORRI RHINIER
              LORRIANDMARK@EARTHLINK.NET
              MOUNT JOY, PA
              LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THE PUPPY MILL SITUATION IN LANCASTER COUNTY, PA



y 06/16/2006 8:17:12pm
              epona

             ediburgh
             Of course animals suffer when they die,they know whats about to happen and they experience extreme fear and
             panic,especially if there is a group of them getting slaughtered together which tends to be the case,the ones further back in
             the line have to watch the poor creatures in front get killed so they have this mental torture to go through as well.Even if it is
             a single animal getting taken to hut on a farm to get slaughtered they know,they smell the blood from the previously killed
             animals.
             I just don't understand how people can live with themselves knowing that they are putting another living creature through that
             kind torment and pain.

esday 06/14/2006 8:51:33pm
             Wheels

             USA
             Barbara states, "Wheels" seems to be a typical American "redneck" (no offence).
             None taken...I have a lot of respect for the American redneck (working class). Can't say I'm one though, as I've never burned
             the back of my neck tolling in the outdoors.
             The only way you're gonna burn this old-boys neck is at pool side.

             You ask, "Can you kill anything without it suffering????"....Sure you can, like I've said before "there is no suffering in
             death". But don't take my word for it, PETA's Guru's have killed tens of thousands of healthy animals and they claim the
             animals never suffered. If PETA says it can be done, then it must be the truth.

             I agree Barbara, kids should know where their 'food source' comes from, that's why I had my kids join the FFA. Although,
             none of them turned vegetarian, they do frown on sloppy killing methods used at some of the factory farms.



ay 06/13/2006 7:18:21pm
             Barbara Wallace
             barbara_nailsea@hotmail.com
             Somerset, England
             Never got involved with posting comments before - nice to have a place to express myself! Loads of interesting opinions
             from previous contributors.
            "Wheels" seems to be a typical American "redneck" (no offence)- think your reference to the cheating wife as a 'slut' gave
            you away there Wheels!

            Said previously he's a rancher (presume it's a he) who kills his animals without them suffering. Can you kill anything without
            it suffering????

            I guess you'll never stop people eating meat. EAch to their own I guess - if they want chunks of dead flesh putrefying in their
            intestines for 48 hours or so before evacuation that's their choice I suppose (Yuk). (Animals bred and raised to be eaten have
            no choice of course!)

            I would like to see it being compulsory for every 16 year old to visit a factory farm and abattoir as part of their last school
            year. Wonder how many vegetarians we'd have then??

            A survey was done recently of Primary School kids in London - and the majority thought meat originated at Tesco
            (supermarket) - didn't realise that their hamburgers were once part of a living, feeling creature. Sad or what?

            One last thing - for now - a yesterday UK newspaper reported a bull that had escaped from an abattoir and was rampaging
            through the streets of Hampshire - very agitated (well it would be, wouldn't it!). The police finally had to shoot it. What made
            me laugh was the comment from the police sergeant - "the last thing we wanted to do was to kill an animal but we had no
            choice". Good grief - what did he think was going to happen to the bull at the abattoir???!!!



ay 06/12/2006 4:06:43am
             Wheels

            USA
            I agree Barbara, seems 7 years is a little light for killing ones wife, even if she was a slut.

            Now from what I understand and read in the news the ARA's that got 12 years sent out letter bombs along with the other
            things they did. Just because no ones been killed yet doesn't mean they haven't tried.

            From your point of view....12 years was too harsh.
            From my point of view....12 years wasn't long enough for sending letter bombs. I would have given them 50 yrs.



y 06/11/2006 10:07:25pm
             epona

            edinburgh
            Completely agree Barbara,the justice system is very flawed.



day 06/10/2006 11:46:18pm
              Barbara Wallace
              barbara_nailsea@hotmail.com
              Somerset
              Justice for All??
             On 30th December 2001 a husband killed his wife by stabbing her 12 times in front of his children, after she admitted to an
             affair.

             He was charged with manslaughter (not murder!) and sentenced to 7 years in prison.

             He was released last October (2005) after serving little more than half his sentence.

             This kind of “punishment” for such heinous crimes seems to be the norm these days.

             In comparison, a few misguided and fanatical people branded as animals rights “terrorists” - who have never, ever killed
             anyone - are sentenced to 12 years in prison!

             Their crimes of intimidation, inciting violence, and desecration of a grave were, indeed, serious and despicable - but no-one
             lost their lives.

             If the media and Government were fair and unbiased about the whole animal experiment issue, then there would be no animal
             rights "terrorists". Frustration drives them to their actions.

             Funny, also, how the one-eyed, one-hand Abu Hamza can stand on the streets of London, preaching hatred and inciting
             violence for months on end before he is challenged about his behaviour, yet people wishing to demonstrate outside the
             Oxford research laboratory are descended on like a ton of bricks by hordes of police and denied the right to express their
             views. So much for freedom of speech.



day 06/08/2006 6:59:08am
             Response to Wheels

             USA
             Ah Wheels, there's a great big world out there and lots of different kinds of people you could meet if you were open minded
             enough to do so. I'm not sure where in the US you live but it sounds like a small town of homogenous people so I wouldn't
             imagine you'd encounter anyone unlike yourself.

             You say you never want to change but that's a pity because we all have the potential to be better and learn about the world.
             It's a waste to live your life in a bubble.



day 06/08/2006 6:19:56am
             Joe
             jdk7212000@yahoo.com
             Florida
             I support ALF 100%. Everyone should be able to live free. Keep up the good work!



esday 06/07/2006 11:53:22pm
              Ok, set the animals free, but why destroy the companies aswell? You say you don't hurt people, but huring thier economy is
              like hurting them! The big companies will fire workers that will no longer have a job to support their families and they will
              suffer! Another thing is how can they get pictures of these things and not have the police catching them?! Horrible.

              ALF: If you had to write an essay and take the opposite opinion, I bet you could answer the questions. If not, the answers are
              on our web site.



ay 06/05/2006 1:54:15am
             smash KFC


              Hey, have you seen this
              http://www.kfc.com/about/pr/072104.htm
              I thought it was ridiculos that the ALF are considered terrorist, but this KFC is calling PeTA a terrorist group as well. WTF?

              I say that if KFC wants a war lets give them one. Where are the ARM (Animal Rights Malitia) when you need them. All
              though I do not consider them terrorists, they are about as close to terrorist as the animal rights movement get. If any one
              who believes in vandalism or even harming humans to get there point across, take action on KFC NOW.
              "Terrorist and hooligans? Just you fucking wait, if this is the image you create of us, you ain't seen nothing yet"
              Vegan Reich.



y 06/04/2006 6:28:00pm
             corran ward
             coz_99@msn.com
             england
             I think this site is amazzing and just shows the reality of life. and more people should know these facts.

              xxxthank youxxx



y 06/04/2006 3:10:13pm
             Camden Parker
             camden_parker@yahoo.ca
             USA
             You have a very good webpage here, so best greetings to you and all your visitors.



y 06/02/2006 6:41:49am
              Wheels

              USA
              epona asks, "Do you have no compassion for animals you kill?"

              My cattle don't suffer as there is no suffering in death. I'm good at what I do and the animals death is quick. I guess that's
              about as compassionate as I'm going to get with cattle. I'm a rancher and I look at cattle, chickens, pigs, goats, deer, elk, and
              fish as a food source .... nothing more. None of these animals suffer at my hands when killed.
             I know no vegans and only a hand full of vegetarians (hippy bunch about 18 miles away). All my friends and family eat meat,
             and for us to get that meat, an animal must die. That's the way it is and it will never change in my lifetime or my kids lifetime.
             I hope you guy's do put factory farms out of business. That'll drive the prices higher for my beef.



day 06/01/2006 2:42:49pm
             epona

             edinburgh
             Hey Mike,
             Sorry, just get a little heated a times,think everybody has slipped up at somepoint.
             Thanks for reminding me that certain people are not worth it.



day 06/01/2006 0:46:28am
             Billy Vandal


             Sorry forgot something once again, it's getting late in Canada
             common sense?
             Murder is wrong, aniamls are murder for meat, leather, fur and experiments
             torture is wrong, animals are tortured for meat, eggs, milk, and experiments.
             explotation is wrong, animals are exploited in circuses, zoos, and animal acts
             Stealing is wrong, animals have Milk, eggs, wool, life, freedom, ect...
             "stolen from them.
             I am sorry, but this is not a brainwashed philosphy, this is fact. SO common sense should tell everyone to go vegan and speak
             up for animals."

             Ok why is it wrong, because Jesus said it was, your mother said it was wrong? Your father beat you until you understand it
             was wrong ? The laws of the land said it was wrong and that if you disobey you went to jail? Or is it that your optian says its
             wrong because you morally believe it is? If you can't understand the morals of it or you don't agree with (like an animal) then
             this moral agrument falls apart. A 1 yr old kid does not have the same moral understanding as a 5 yr kid as a 13 yr or older.
             Morals like skills they are taught or learned.

             ALF: The definition of morals is "motivation based on ideas of right and wrong". Key word: ideas. Morality is an opinion.

             While nobody can logically insist that any concept is more moral than another, the position to which animal rights adhere is
             that morality should be logically consistent. To be consistent you can choose to give rights to white blond Germans, or short
             fat bald women, or to humans with 130 IQs. But it makes more sense to animal rights advocates to choose sentience. It's not
             a more moral choice, since there is no such thing. It's a choice that can be more logically consistent than any other I've heard.




esday 05/31/2006 10:42:55pm
             ALF


             To John Jones:
I think your reply is a little pathetic. You judge a whole movement on one action? Your responce is transparent to say the
least!
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             John Jones
             jonnyboy@orange.net
             Worcs
             I was sympathetic to a lot of the ALF's views and some of its action until you started digging up dead bodies and stealing
             them. I cannot understand how an organisation which stands for the rights and dignity of animals can allow its members
             to rob graves, the ultimate insult to the dignity of a human being. This makes me think that the ALF don't really care
             about living creatures either, they're just the focus for your members to make their lives feel worthwhile, have a little
             rebellion. All very sad, and you're failing animals at the end of the day by turning yourselves into a bunch of nutters with
             no credibility. Everyone I know here feels the same. Maybe the problem is that you're a bunch of townies who never
             worked with animals. Anyway, stick to the campuses, if you pop your heads up round here you'll get them knocked off.




day 05/31/2006 4:56:56am
             Mike


              Sorry forgot something once again, it's getting late in Canada
              common sense?
              Murder is wrong, aniamls are murder for meat, leather, fur and experiments
              torture is wrong, animals are tortured for meat, eggs, milk, and experiments.
              explotation is wrong, animals are exploited in circuses, zoos, and animal acts
              Stealing is wrong, animals have Milk, eggs, wool, life, freedom, ect...
              stolen from them.
              I am sorry, but this is not a brainwashed philosphy, this is fact. SO common sense should tell everyone to go vegan and
              speak up for animals.



day 05/31/2006 4:52:01am
             Mike


              Oh I forgot to mention, if people are stupid enough to donate to something that they know nothing about, it's their own
              fault. PeTA has never denied it's goals, it's actions or it's support of "eco/AR terrorism"



day 05/31/2006 4:49:01am
             Mike


              I agree that people should research more then one side of every story. I question just about everything I hear/read. I
              completely agree that there is no such thing as an unbiased opinion or report. Everyone is biased to some extent, unless
              they have no opinion on anything.
             PeTA does save animals through there outreach and activism. Look into how many people have went vegetarian or
             vegan because of PeTA (or other AR groups/organization) and in a country that is all about supply and demand this does
             save several animals. Also there cheap and some times free SNIP program (spay and neteur immeditly please)has
             probably saved several animals as the unwanted animals would probably end up in a shelter and possibly be "put down"

             I do not fully support PeTA, I actually think a lot of the stuff they put their money and time into, could be better spent
             and I tell them this, but I support their overall goal of total animal liberation.
             Oh and so far non of the companies that used to support the CCF that I contacted have contacted me yet. I am giving
             them until thursday before I give the information to all the ALF support groups I can find. If they reply after this I will
             ask every ALF site to take them off the list.



day 05/31/2006 3:26:19am
             Billy Vandal


             Its ok I have you and the others to do that for me. I'm neutral, I don't thrust anyone CCF, Peta, ALF, Pro-hunting, anti-
             hunting, pro-meat, anti-meat, its a shame people can't use comman sense then looking at facts, but at the end of the day
             people just look for agruments that suit there side. Its a shame thats there no openness. More openless in your field
             would mean that research labs would say that there doing to the public so they can make up there minds etc etc etc.


             ALF: We agree. At the bottom of our home page we have the following statement, which is absolutely true: "We value
             all opinions. In our 15 years online, no rebuttal has been deleted (one rebuttal was edited only to remove the nasty things
             said about my relationship with my dog, Snack)."



day 05/31/2006 1:41:18am
             Billy Vandal

             China
             Mike

             Read my the first part of theard

             "Sorry Mike you you have to question the the valulity (sp) of http://www.consumerdeception.com/ has much
             as the CCF."

             I'm saying that both sides are has bad as each other.

             Peta has become that you say a muti-million pound company through the dontations of the public.
             If there misleading the public through lies or spin, there are as just as bad as the CCF, that
             was the point of the note. How much does the Pres of Peta get paid? In the old days the church
             was a source of moral power, it was also very whealty as well, but it also did a lot of bad
             things.

             CCF is using its "right of free speech" even through some are lies, but as you say its gets most of its
             money from the companies, which in turn sells goods to the public.
             I'm using an example here, you have the right to say that the Holocaust did not happen,
             although I'm wrong I do have that right to say it did not happen. Although in some parts of Europe
               it is a crime and people have been arrested and put in jail for this. So that is more morally
               wrong "saying that the Holocause did not happen" or throwing that person in jail for saying it.

               Peta on the other hand gets its money directly from the public. Peta does not save lives itself,
               it is a progaranda (sp) machine to educate the public on animal rights, as if you tracked down most
               of its tax returns, little does towards directly helping animals but mostly on media expenses etc etc.
               "Follow the money as they say"

               How if people are stupid enough to believe anything without checking for themselfs from netural sources
               if something is bad or believe anything that is told to them, then the agruments of moral logic is not
               going to make sense to them. If this is the case then how can a person have morals if they if not going to
               be able to make sense of them. If this happens then the moral logic of using animals for meat in invalid. You may

               say that these people are still capeable of knowing that murder, rape, theif, arson is right or wrong,
               but is it through a fear of going to prison or through there understanding of moral logic. I can't reminder
               the quote or who it was from off man but some philospher once say "I have learn through morals what is wrong,

               what other people have learn through the fear of going to jail".

               ALF response: It is true that PETA tells one side of the story with its 20-million pound annual budget. And the other
               side of the story is told by companies with billions of pounds of advertising. That's a factor more than a thousand to one.
               So, for fairness and proportional response, I expect your next 999 posts to be about the lies told by those against PETA.


               I'm waiting.



day 05/31/2006 1:24:47am
             Mike


               epona, can we please not result to name calling and generalizing. Wheels maybe pathetic and a sicko, but you can not
               make the judgement without knowing more about him. Name calling just makes both sides look childish and is not
               productive in anyway.



y 05/30/2006 9:13:46pm
              Rebekah
              moon_star_black@yahoo.com
              statesville
              I found this web site through Peta and I really want to do something for the animals and I struggle to find devoted people
              around here to find someone to join me in this long struggle to save the animals would be great I am about to marry and
              he is not very into it its just not his thing



y 05/30/2006 8:25:46pm
              epona

               edinburgh
             Hello again Wheels,
             You seem to really get off on the idea of striking a nerve with people,that just shows how pathetic you are.
             Do you have no compassion for animals you kill? You are probably one of the sickos that kick blood in the poor
             creatures face as they writhe around.
             I know what we do is right,The animals need help and we will always be there.There have been many victories for
             animal rights have a look,you might learn something.
             No doubt you will get back with some witty quip and thats cool just don't strain that brain of yours too much.



y 05/30/2006 2:19:51pm
              Mike


             Wheels, I do not think that most ALF cells care about public support. There are several organization out there that are
             doing it the legal way and trying to gain public support. If you ever become vegetarian or vegan and an animal rights
             activist you will see that after a little while signs, leaflets, and outreach to the general public doesn't always work and
             doesn't get a message to most companies.
             "Your victims have been voicless, so we've spoken for them, now tired of wasting our breath, there will be no more
             talking"-Vegan Reich



y 05/30/2006 2:06:27pm
              Mike


             Billy, I know this is a PeTA site, but as the ALF response said the evidence is there. check out
             http://www.consumerfreedom.com/about.cfm
             He openly admits that
             "The Center for Consumer Freedom is supported by restaurants, food companies" he leaves out the alcohol and tabacco
             companies though
             He does not disclouse who, beacuse he claims his supports are worried about the ALF, But I am e mailing everyone that
             supported him in 2002 and asking if they still do and that if they do not reply the answer will be assumed yes. I plan to
             get this information on every single ALF support group site in the hopes that ALF cells will take down the CCFs
             supporters.

             Even if PeTA does use some "brainwashing" and "misleading evidence" they do so to save lives, the CCF does it to tell
             people second hand smoke, fast and fatty foods aren't bad, to fight to keep down minimum wage, and fight for the right
             for people to drink and drive. Sorry Billy I think I'll side with PeTA on this one.



y 05/30/2006 1:56:51pm
              Jimmy


             Well done!Keep reguritating the corprate media's "reports" on animal experimentation,in your news column,the Daily
             Mail who represent their advertisers(drug,chemical,oil,cosmetic)will thank you greatly.Who run's this website anyway?
             My guess is that its people who work for industry and you always have promoted vivisection as "scientific" and has
             "done some good".
              THE EMPRESS IS NAKED!

              ALF response: You are a confused person. I'm not sure if you are for or against vivisection. And what does the Daily
              Mail have to do with our web site?



y 05/29/2006 11:49:29am
              Billy Vandal

              China
              Sorry Mike you you have to question the the valulity (sp) of http://www.consumerdeception.com/ has much
              as the CCF.

              It is reported that it is a website run by the Peta.

              Here are some facts that you have to judge for yourself about the vaility of
              http://www.consumerdeception.com/

              There is no contract address or email address for http://www.consumerdeception.com
              Which makes you wonder if your can't question there reporting directly how do you know its
              true.

              A Whois search of the websites www.peta.com and http://www.consumerdeception.com/
              using www.whosis.net and the using the "Lookup registration data for domains."
              Show the same addresses

              NS1.HEDGEHOGHOSTING.NET
              NS2.HEDGEHOGHOSTING.NET

              Now althought not impossible that both these websites are from the same server the probilaity
              of it occuring is low given the number of web hosting servers out there.

              The next piece of edvienence is if you do a websearch on hedgehog hosting and peta.

              This will lead you to

              http://www.hedgehoghosting.com/company/press_peta_052305.html

              In short

              Peta and hedgehog hosting have signed an agreement to host the majority of
              PETA's websites.

              It has been reported although that in the early days of http://www.consumerdeception.com/
              the error page pointed to the peta error page. Although if you fo a privary report while on
              the http://www.consumerdeception.com/ from IE do view ->Privacy report it will list a group of
              cookies that the site has. Some of them are
              http://peta.org/sciprts/s_code_new.js and http://petaconsumerdeception..............
              typing in http://peta.org/sciprts/s_code_new.js will bring you to the peta.org error page.
              This leaves the question why is it put in if it has no use...
             How if you do view->source (for thoose that have notepad)
             It will bring up the html code for the page

             If you use find and type in peta and click on find next.

             You will find peta in with the code as

             var s_account="petaconsumerdeception"
             //-->

             How using these bits of code with peta name seems highly dubious.

             If its been hacked then anything on the website is not trustwrothy.

             Now will all these odd little things although you have to wonder if the site is
             trustworthly.

             Although there is no way to found out on the internet who know formed this website
             you have to question its use. If it is one that peta has set up, then why lie
             about it. If peta is lying about this website then how do i know peta are not
             faking, using out of date videos and misleading the public themselfs.

             ALF response: CCF has never denied that they are supported by the food and dairy industry, which is all you need to
             know to explain their actions. As detectives always say, "Follow the money."



y 05/29/2006 4:38:01am
              Wheels

             USA
             Seems I struck a nerve...hehe. One thing for sure, you are a sanctimonious bunch of fools. Do you guys ever read the
             news? The Telegraph reports that support for animal testing (in the UK) is at an all-time high and that over 75% of
             people polled agree that fanatical activists are justifiably defined as terrorists.
             Wake up people...what ever your doing, it's not working. You might be able to close a few businesses with your lunacy
             but you're not winning public support, and without it, you'll soon lose the battle.
             *Ta*Ta*



05/28/2006 6:10:59pm
             mike


             This is in reply to epona
             I do not know if this is the case with all places that test on animals, but I know for a lot of medical research their are
             grants that they recieve. So we need to question whether or not companies are working towards altenatives as they would
             be recieving less money if they did.
             That footage is pretty old and they have cut ties with that lab, but people working for Iams visited those labs and did not
             do a thing to stop the abuse until PeTA went public with it and Iams refused to allow PeTA to see inside their other labs.
05/28/2006 10:26:39am
             wannes-simon -shimanto-**anoniem**
             kaka@hotmail.com
             jamaika
             why did u burn all those mc donalds??
             I like them
             but you can do it on another way
             gaia and wwf can so why cant you???

              greets the 4 brothers

              yeah rescpect



05/28/2006 10:10:27am
             epona

              edinburgh
              I received an e-mail back from Iams customer services recently about the issue of the testing that goes in labs.
              I was told that the footage i have veiwed is from an extreme activists organization and that is over a year and a half old.

              It also said that Iams supports the ultimate elimation of the feeding studies as alternatives become available,they have
              appointed Dr Len Saurs to lead the studies.
              Also they do not know any other company that goes out of their way to find the dogs and cats they no longer need loving
              homes.
              If i had any more questions i am to contact this site www.Iamstruth.com
              I was pretty pissed to be truthful because even if the footage is a bit dated it still showed the most terrible cruelty which
              Sue from customer services did not even mention.
              Does anyone know if Iams are trying to better themselves or is it all just drivvle to shut us extreme activist up!



y 05/27/2006 4:15:18pm
              Mike


              I think the ALF should "attack" those that are giving money to the CCF, just as SHAC has done to companies supporting
              HLS. Make sure they know why they are being attacked and make sure they know it won't stop until they stop giving the
              CCF money.
              For those that do not know what the CCF is you can veiw there website at
              http://centerforconsumerfreedom.com/
              and learn the truth about them, and find a list of their supporters at
              http://www.consumerdeception.com/
              These so called non profit organizations misleading "evidence" needs to come to an end.



05/26/2006 7:05:25pm
              butterfly
              usa
              I just had to post one more time to let you know I blew water out of my nose when I read this:
              "Jesus gave FISH to his followers.

              ALF: Do you suppose that's because he didn't want to eat it himself"
              --------
              Also I want to say to 'Wheels' that I feel so sorry for how you choose to spend your life, as a killer of the innocent. I'd
              also like to let you know I think you are the monster my mommy and daddy warned me about.



05/26/2006 6:57:37pm
              butterfly

              usa
              I recently posted that Coca Cola does test on animals. Because someone else posted how grateful they were to learn this
              I just want to share the email from the Coca Cola company in which they confirm they DO TEST ON ANIMALS.

              As a vegan(not buying products tested on animals goes along with the use of the word vegan). I will never buy another
              product from the Coca Cola company. I wish I would have known this sooner:

              Thank you for contacting The Coca-Cola Company.

              When safety tests are required by government regulatory agencies, we do
              use outside laboratories in cooperation with other companies in our
              industry. Since our products are primarily for human consumption, we do
              not use the Draize test or routine LD50 tests. We will continue to
              monitor and evaluate the progress of alternative methods of testing. Be
              assured that the outside laboratories will use them when they have been
              proven to be an adequate substitute for animal testing and are
              acceptable to regulatory agencies.

              Except the products that contain cochineal (which is listed on the
              label) and the products that contain milk (which is also indicated on the
              label), brands of The Coca-Cola Company in the United States do not
              contain any ingredient derived from animals.

              However, some of our juice products contain Vitamin D3, which is
              derived from lanolin. Lanolin is a natural oil in the fiber of sheep's wool.
              It is separated from the wool after the sheep's hair is cut (sheered).
              Lanolin oil is obtainable without harming the sheep, but may be an
              issue for strict vegetarians.

              Additionally, some of our suppliers use a common industry practice for
              grape juice clarification that does involve animal by-products. This
              practice is becoming increasingly less common as ultra-filtration
              systems are gradually replacing the gelatin used in this process. However,
              you may be interested to know that because our juices are certified
              kosher, the gelatin used to clarify the juice is made from fish.

              In the U.S., the only Coca-Cola product that is currently produced with
              cochineal is Minute Maid Juices To Go Ruby Red Grapefruit Drink.

              The only currently manufactured Coca-Cola brand products that contain
              milk are Swerve, Choglit, the Fruitopia Smooth products, SLAPDRINKS, Tey
              teas, Minute Maid BeginIt, the Planet Java products, Minute Maid Fruit
              and Cream Swirl frozen bars, Barq's Frozen Root Beer & Vanilla Ice
              Cream Float, and the Bacardi Mixers premium ice cream.

              We hope this information is helpful. Please feel free to contact us
              again.

              Greg
              Industry and Consumer Affairs
              The Coca-Cola Company



05/26/2006 0:38:20am
              To Wheels from a p.o'd 12 year old


              if you disagree with what we believe in. stop coming to the alf website and go kill something. prefarably yourself. if you
              think that showing us a video of chopping vegetables would change our ways. you have a lot to learn. also, to all of you
              that think we are terrorists, seriously, if you don't like what we do, don't get in our way. let us do as we please. god. you
              are all so stupid! we've had enough of your asaninie remarks. quit telling us to get jobs and lives if all you can think of to
              do with yours is be sardoninc and annoying.



 y 05/25/2006 8:57:36pm
              ALF


              Reply for Tim Smith:
              In the UK our wildlife live in managed ecosystems. Early in the 1940s when mink farms flurished in the UK these
              ecosystem were more wild than they are in UK 21st century but the escaped mink settled. The first mass mink releases in
              the UK were back in the 40s during the war years because farmers couldn't sustain their trade and instead of keeping the
              mink caged only to stalve to death they released them into the wild. The impact on these local ecoststems was only a
              short term problem, they soon recovered and flourished. Mink escaped into the wild on a regular basis ever since. When
              the mass ALF release of 6000 mink happened, back in Hampshire in 1999, it was big news. Many mink died but many
              more went on to live free. All mink released had the same chance to live free instead of death at the hands of the fur
              trader and in the long term the ecosystem recovered. We are now faced with the end of fur farms in the UK because of
              the ALF.

              I suggest you study the decline of our wildlife over the past 60 years and you will discover that the biggest impact on our
              wildlife is modern intensive farming and hunting. Since the recovery of the Otter population in the west country the Vole
              population is on the rise and the mink population has leveled out. This is because of the Otter who are direct competition
              for the mink. It was humans who hunted the Otter almost to extinction in the UK.


              ALF actions are well thought out Mr Smith please don't believe everything you read in the papers.
           If you want to contribute Tim you will find a large network of well established groups who will welcome you. Uncaged,
           BUAV, Animals AID and NAVS, just to name a few.

           The animal rights movement in the UK is the biggest most organised group in the world. The ALF play a big role in the
           movement and have played their part in closing many places of abuse and if not for the ALF they would STILL be open
           today.



y 05/25/2006 7:31:47pm
             Jean_françois
             leveque_jean_francois@hotmail.com
             Belgium - Belgique
             Bonjour ,

           Si tout comme moi la cruauté humaine vous horifies , vous répugne voir vous faits honte d'être humain rejoignez moi
           pour plusieurs actions cibler en Belgique dans les principales villes et ce pour montrer notre determination de dire non a
           la viande , non a la cruauté gratuite sans fondement et oui a la cause vegan et oui a l ' ALF .


           A tres bientot ,



           JF.

           ALF: Yes, like you, some human cruelty horrifies us.



y 05/25/2006 6:53:04pm
             Tim Smith
             ecowarrior65@hotmail.com
             mids
             Reply to ALF:

           How can an educated policy result in the blinded following of all animal related causes regardless of their impact on
           other areas of life?
           The ALF has a bad reputation because of the few 'unsuitable' causes that it supports and the ignorant pathetic radical
           action made by a small minority of its members.
           This sort of uneducation results in the release of 300o minks from a fur farm which then decimated the wild populations
           of rare british wildlife such as the water vole, stoat and certain wild birds??
           Can i suggest that differnet action groups are set up so that people like me who agreee with SOME of the causes can
           contribute without being tarnished with the same brush as the ingnorant radicalists?

           ALF: "Contribute" in what way? The ALF doesn't take contributions or have membership. There are already many
           factions of the animal rights/welfare movements, ranging from very aggressive (the Animal Rights Militia) to ALF to
           Open Rescue to PETA to HSUS to animal shelters to Wildlife Associations. Please support the group closest to your
           personal philosophy. Many of them are listed on our web site. Perhaps you could write a paper detailing the differences
           in philosophy of these groups? We'll help you promote it so that if there are gaps that need to be filled, someone will do
           it.
day 05/24/2006 11:01:09am
             steppe
             tod.verderben@gmx.de

              FREE THE BROWNBEAR IN SOUTHGERMANY

              start supports and antihuman/pronature actions

              bomb the hunters

              fuck the first bear since 170 years in germany

              and we kill him

              stop that crap



              support animal and nature


y 05/23/2006 5:30:24am
              Question?

              US of A
              Alex Pacheco, co-founder and former chairman of PeTA once said, "Arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are
              ‘acceptable crimes’ when used for the animal cause". Since PeTA has euthanized tens of thousands of healthy animals
              and tends to kill the vast majority of animals it "rescues", would it be acceptable to burn PeTA's house down? If not,
              why the double standard?



y 05/22/2006 10:25:39pm
              ALF


              This is for Tim Smith.

              Tim maybe certain readers/posters of this guest book should read some basic animal rights philosophy. They will then
              realise that even if animal testing produced all the cures we are looking for the ALF would still exist.



y 05/22/2006 7:06:14pm
              Tim Smith
              ecowarrior65@hotmail.com
              Midlands
              I am an avid conservationist and have made numerous trips to countries such as Borneo and Tanzania to help preserve
              heavily persecuted species such as orangutan and Pygmy Hippos.
              Although i sympathise with some of your causes I feel there are some very un-educated views made on others.
               Animal testing for new life saving medicines is an unfortunate but entirely necessary procedure. Neuro drugs such as
               those for parkinsons cannot be tested using test tubes and chemical cocktails, it is not yet possible to re-create a living
               cells metabolic processes in a lab!
               Instead of latching on to every animal related campaign in the country maybe certain readers of this site should read
               somwe basic medical texts to see why SOME drugs HAVE to be tested on animals. Im sure these same people do not
               refuse all medication offered to them and family members when admitted to hospital......



05/21/2006 3:01:25am
             To wheels
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             Most humans who view "Meat Your Meat" feel horrified, most humans who watch MYM are so sickened to the point of
             vomiting, which alot do. MOST people who see what that video has alerted us to are changed on the inside for life. The
             key word being "inside" You on the other hand are like a big empty hole in the earth, a big dark, lonely, empty hole
             which people have probably kicked dirt on most of your life and rightly so, unfortunately the way others have treated
             you is the reflection mirrored at your self when you are butchering an animal, it's not the animal that matters to you
             because there is nothing inside of you to care of or care for. If chopping veggies was the best alternative you could come
             up with, well, that is really at about the age of 12 or 13 on the IQ scale maybe even lower. So let me sum it up for ya
             wheels, if you have any insurance please get some help if not try a free clinic, I'm sure they already know you on a first
             name basis from juve.



y 05/20/2006 3:51:25pm
              Rosalind Agius
              doggy832003@yahoo.com
              Malta - Europe
              Dear ALF,
              I already signed the guest book once but I am doing so again as it is in this site were I see reflecting exactly what I feel. I
              volunteer in a home for abandoned animals, and keep the sick ones till they heal at my home. The pain humans inflict on
              other species is simply shameful. You truly love animals.
              So thankyou ALF, for being the courageous, risking it all for the voiceless animals. But one day, our dreams will be
              realized and animals will achieve their rights. But not yet.

               All my respect to you
               Rosalind Agius
               Malta - Europe



y 05/20/2006 9:03:39am
              epona

               scotland
               Hi there Wheels,
               Its not just about the killing of animals its how its done,I gather you do everything to the last letter and make sure the
               cattle are properly stunned and are treated with some kind of respect.
               One of the main reasons I turned veggie was the total disregard people in slaughter houses and some farms have for the
               poor animals that are about to be killed.
               They are already terrified they do not need to be additional torture before they are killed.
              If you have watched more videos you would see what I mean.
              Watch some more stuff about the meat trade and please let me know if you still feel the same.



y 05/20/2006 3:23:33am
              Wheels

              USA
              Why is it that every ARA thinks by telling others to view "Meet your meat" the world will suddenly change to vegan? I
              kill cattle for a living...how is a video clip about what I do every day going to change my mind? Would you guy's
              become meat-eaters if I showed you a clip of some farmer chopping up vegetables or crushing a fruit just to get at it's
              life blood? Naw...I didn't think so.

              ALF response: Very good point. I'll put out a memo telling activists not to show "Meet Your Meat" to any person who
              kills for a living. Thanks.



day 05/17/2006 7:48:57am
             epona

              scotland
              I am new to this site and have been reading some of the entries posted.
              Thanks for the info on coca cola!
              For all the people that have sent in negative entries Do you realise how narrow minded and stupid you really are.

              Have you ever watched footage of the animal torture that goes on supposedly in the name of science.
              Try having a look and then have a think about the utter shit that spews from your mouth when you make those stupid
              ignorant remarks.



day 05/17/2006 4:45:00am
             butterfly

              usa
              Just to spread the word on what I learned this week, the Coca Cola company DOES USE ANIMAL TESTING and lots
              of their products contain cochineal and vitamin D(in their juices) that's derived from sheeps wool. As a vegan, I can no
              longer consume anything from coke. I'm assuming Pepsi is the same but will check. Anyone know of a soda company
              that doesn't support animal testing and sells vegan cola??



day 05/17/2006 4:31:58am
             jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             P.S. I forgot to add this: Tony Blair you're such a disgrace to a beautiful country, oh yeah, you're also an asshole.
day 05/17/2006 4:28:02am
             jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             Absolute Liberation. Please read the case of Peter Young, facing 10-20 years in prison in S.D. Read any story of the
             seven and all I can say is if anyone can help, please do.



day 05/17/2006 3:57:03am
             Mike
             speakoutforanimalrights@hotmail.com
             Cambridge, ON
             I was just wondering if you feel that vandalism and "sabatoge" without liberation helps get the message across and
             makes bigger companies change their ways? Or should it be more for the smaller buisness that the ALF could put out of
             business with one action?
             Also if you are ever in need of volunteers for anything or a contact in the greater toronto area of Ontario let me know via
             e mail.
             Keep up the great work.

              ALF: Guideline number 5 states that we should never apply generalizations, but rather look at each situation in great
              detail, considering all ramifications.



day 05/17/2006 3:53:47am
             Wes

              Madison(aka West Moscow)
              Jesus gave FISH to his followers.

              ALF: Do you suppose that's because he didn't want to eat it himself?



day 05/17/2006 2:01:07am
             lucy smith

              walthamstow
              i am totally opposed to battery farming.i cant sleep with thinking of all these batteries in cages piled on top of each other
              in sheds.there must be someone out there who can release these batteries out into the wild and back under the bonnets of
              cars where they belong.



y 05/16/2006 11:52:35pm
              chris
              chris911uk@yahoo.com
              manchester
             Watched documentary lastnight, keep up the good work, but cannot believe that lying bastard Blair can kill thousands in
             an illegal war and get away with it, while your 2 guys dig up some old dead bones and get 12 years, so the dead are
             worth more than the living, UN BELIEVABLE, keep up your brilliant work



y 05/16/2006 8:09:41pm
              mel

             scotland
             regarding the comments made by HAPPY HARRY-i have one for you, was your mother a hippy by any chance, to give
             u such a daft name like that or is your name just as fuckin stupid sounding as u are!



y 05/16/2006 3:42:57pm
              Sarah

             warwickshire
             I would just like to say a big thankyou to all those who dedicate their time to supporting the animal rights movement. I
             am so sick of reading bad press about you people, i am just grateful for everything you do for the animals who are
             suffering in this world. God bless you all.

             ALF: Thanks. In many ways there is no such thing as bad press. The press may make activists look like lunatics, but they
             get the topic of animal rights into the public's consciousness. Historically the masses have eventually been able to
             separate the message from the messenger. Very few people who study the issues ever conclude that animals deserve
             FEWER rights.



y 05/16/2006 4:21:52am
              happy harry

             cambridge uk
             hi.why dont the companies test their products/drugs on the animal rights protestors instead of animals.they have less iq
             than the average monkey and the monkeys smell better than most of them.they could test some anti-impodence drugs on
             them.they look as if they need something to relieve their frustration in life.

             ALF: I don't mind beng compared to a monkey. It helps to have opposable thumbs when needing to type CAPITAL
             letters. With evolution there is hope for you.



y 05/16/2006 3:26:25am
              To Wes and Tony


             Wes, please don't bring God into the AR argument. You don't really sound like a person of faith. If you were to believe
             in God and the bible then you'd know all creatures are created in his vision and we're all equal in his eyes. That means
             we don't go around eating each other, do you get it?
              And for Tony Blair, people who have nothing to contribute but insults are quite immature and do little to contribute to
              the world. Grow up.



y 05/16/2006 1:09:39am
              tony blair

              downing street
              just watched the channel 4 documentary on animal rights activists.what a load of scummy foulmouth terrorist lowlife
              they were.scrounging on benefits with nothing to do apart from harrassing law abiding people.wasting police
              resources.the grave robbers got what they deserve.i hope more of these activist are thrown in jail.they are sick in the
              head.



y 05/16/2006 0:41:40am
              wes

              madison, wi
              Greetings,
              It would be nice if people cared as much about human beings as they do animals. There is a reason that we are higher up
              on the food chain. Furthermore, if God did not want us to consume animals, he would have given them trigger fingers
              instead of us. Now please excuse me so I can eat this nice, juicy 16 oz sirloin.
              Out...

              ALF response: I'll bet you family pet is nervous....if you still have one.



y 05/15/2006 9:28:35pm
              mel

              scotland
              i have just watched your documentry on channel 4, and its good to see u standing up against these pricks.and by the way
              needs must when it came to shutting down the guinea pig farm.



y 05/15/2006 4:32:19pm
              hopping mad bunny from hell
              kissmyassTONYBLAIR@YAHOO.COM
              underground over ground
              JUST WANA SAY THAT BLAIR AND HIS NEW LAWS NO MATTER WHAT U DO OR SAY WE WILL WAYS
              BE HERE TO SMASH HSL AT ALL COSTS ILL NEVER GIVE UP.WE WILL JUST FIND A WAY AROUND IT
              WHERES THERES A WAY THERES A WILL.U CAN SHOVE U NEW LAWS UP U ASS AND TO ALL THE
              POLICE AND MEDIA SCUM BAG CLOWNS GET A REAL JOB U BUNCH OF CLOWNS STOP WASTING THE
              TAX PAYERS MONEY WE ARE NOT TERRORIST'S.FUK THE LAW FUK GOVERMENTS SMASH HLS NOW


              FROM BUNNY RABBIT
05/14/2006 9:57:17pm
             chris


             hello i've been reading your website and it promotes the use of human tissue culture as an alternative to animal testing.
             however are you aware that to effectively culture cells they have to be grown in growth media supplement with fetal calf
             serum from purposely aborted calves.

             ALF: No, I didn't know that. Thanks for the information. We'll research it. Any links you could provide would be
             helpful.



05/14/2006 6:21:50pm
             jill

             london
             tony blair is going to sign a petition supporting testing on animals.what do you guys think about that?

             ALF response: I feel like somebody shit in my lunchbox. I live in the UK. Please, call me a cab, and when it comes,
             push me in front of it.


y 05/13/2006 9:35:21pm
              Ljuboja

             Animals Worldwide
             Who cares about what these past people have said who oppose ALF, they dont understand much hence why they post un-
             educated comments, they are the people who are spoilt rotten by the world and do not know what it is like to be in need
             of freedom, the point is Animals are in need of protection from these type of people - the ignorent who shall listen one
             day and Animals will be free...............(Lasciare i tuoi animali sono liberi da malvagio)


             ALF are the answer to all animal suffering!

             Signed: ALF Soldier
             (Also works as IT Consultant)



y 05/13/2006 9:01:11pm
              Max

             NY
             i found a great news report by the washington post about meat packing plants. it is very disturbing, and if i wasnt already
             a veg, it would be enough to convince me to be one.

             www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/ wp-dyn/A60798-2001Apr9?language=printer
05/12/2006 11:41:34am
              Taurean

              Australia
              Dear ALF, I love you all and support your work 100%. Please keep it up and know that there are many people following
              in your footsteps. And to the individuals who oppose the ALF - I feel sorry for you that you live empty, cold lives and
              can never comprehend the fact that all we ever try to achieve is to make this miserable world a better place for the
              animals.



y 05/11/2006 6:03:07pm
             Millie

              Ireland
              Hope you scumbags refuse medication, medical procedures and treatment that has been tested on animals..otherwise that
              would make you a bunch of low life hipocrites. May you all get cancer and rot:)

              ALF response: Unless a company is currently doing tests on animals there is no damage done to animals by using their
              drugs today. Similar logic would apply to driving on roads built by slave labor (assuming that you are currently against
              slavery).



y 05/11/2006 6:00:05pm
             jammie
             slapmyarse@hotmail.com
             london
             Right, all you ALF's supporters go get f*cking jobs!! stop claiming of the state!!!!, you all no better than thugs!!


              ALF response: "f*cking jobs"? You want us to become prositutes? Are you hiring?



y 05/11/2006 9:32:32am
             JULIE
             JICAZ@AOL.COM
             SCOTTSDALE, AZ
             I AM SOO THRILLED TO LEARN OF YOUR ORGANIZATION. I THINK YOU DO GREAT WORK AND I
             LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT YOU.



day 05/10/2006 11:12:43pm
             Mike
             rudie138@hotmail.com
             Ontario
             what was the date of the first ALF action in Canada?

              ALF: Here are the actions we know about. If anyone knows of more, please share with us: Canada
day 05/10/2006 10:49:43pm



            On your website you said that "activists need to be selfless enough to do the boring, unglamorous, and personally
            unrewarding tasks our struggle requires" Besides spending time in prison, what other things animal rights activists do
            that are boring, unglamorous or unrewarding?

            ALF:
            Nonviolent discipline is the self-discipline we must foster to implement five necessary components of strategic
            nonviolence:


            Fearlessness: Courage prevents us from compromising our beliefs, even when faced with personal danger and suffering.
            Fearlessness is a vital component of strategic nonviolence and will be discussed more later.

            Persistence: Persistence allows us to continue to fight even when morale is low or the situation looks hopeless. Setbacks
            should be expected, but, as long as we don't quit, victory is still possible. The only way we can truly fail is by giving up.
            Therefore activists need the inner strength necessary to continue the struggle during hard times.


            Selflessness: We must put the animals before ourselves, so we do what is best for them--not what makes us feel good.
            Activists need to be selfless enough to do the boring, unglamorous, and personally unrewarding tasks our struggle
            requires. As our struggle intensifies, some of us will face imprisonment and violent opposition. We will need to be
            selfless enough to endure pain, discomfort, and the loss of our freedom for the animals.


            Nonviolence: As will be explained later, for strategic nonviolence to be as effective as possible, we must never use
            violence or threats of violence in any situation--even to protect ourselves or other activists.

            Nonhostility: We need the discipline to treat everyone--animal exploiters, ignorant or hostile members of the public,
            activists we disagree with, etc.--with respect. We must maintain a dignified and calm composure during all of our
            interactions with others, while also being truthful, humble, non-judgmental, nurturing, and open-minded.


            Nonviolent discipline is the self-discipline and inner strength activists need to be fearless, persistent, selfless, nonviolent,
            and nonhostile. The need for these components will be explained in more detail later, but first we will explain the need
            for nonviolence and nonhostility.



day 05/10/2006 5:35:55am
             Dano
             alfanimal@yahoo.com
             CA
             Dear ALF
              Can you help me...My friend and his family are big time hunters. I hate hunting, but he is a really great kid. It is hard to
              go over to their house because of the innocent animal heads hanging on their wall. How can I open his eyes to the
              problems with hunting without jeopardizing our friendship?

              P.S. Good Work. Keep it up. I will always support you. And any chance to protest, or help an any way, I will be there.


              ALF response: It is probably best to be honest and tell him how you feel about hunting. If he is truly a friend he will
              listen to your concerns. If not, it may be better to know that now.



day 05/10/2006 1:08:27am
             Tony Rock
             Gnome_squad15@yahoo.com
             VT
             have you been to bonzaikitten.com latley, its sick you should go there and kill the guy who stuffs kittens into bottles....
             do it... i dont like him... he bugs me

              ALF response: Bonsaikitten is a hoax. Details are reported at snopes.com.



day 05/10/2006 1:05:40am
             Tony Rock
             Gnome_squad15@yahoo.com
             VT
             Is the Alf against hunting? I wonder this because isnt hunting a type of conservation? I dunno.... but i support u and stuff
             and you should respomd

              ALF response: It's a common question. Some discussion of it is here: Hunting



day 05/10/2006 0:41:47am
             Simon

              UK
              For the record: I understand the huge profit motive behind the pro-vivisection campaign. I am against wanton cruelty to
              animals. But advocating and threatening violence against entirely innocent people in a peacetime situation is absolutely
              not analogous to a warzone and you further weaken your argument by trying to compare the two situations.


              You lose so much support that you might otherwise be able to tap into to pursue your aims through completely peaceful
              means.

              If the argument is so powerful against vivisection, it will be won - it may take time, but rational people will decide
              enough is enough. Violence can never be part of the solution.
             ALF response: There are many articles and books written on this subject. Some agree with you, some do not. We have
             pages of discussions in our discussion forum. Bottom line: There is no reliable data to support either side, only a lot of
             opinions. We respect your opinion -- history may prove you to be correct. We frequently use the example of the Vietnam
             War protestors who blocked traffic in the US. Everybody hated them, but the masses blissfully ignored their viewpoint
             until the newsmedia followed the action. The more angry people were with them, the more it made the news.


             The masses were able to separate the message from the messenger. We hope history repeats itself.

             One thing is certain -- voters, and the masses rarely pay attention to debates between philosophers -- they'll only pay
             attention to news, and news only reports conflict. So conflict is necessary.



y 05/09/2006 5:59:51pm
              Simon

             UK
             Ingrid Newkirk's warning sums up precisely why so many people have such difficulty supporting terrorist organisations
             such as the ALF.

             Where is any there intellectual consistency in condemning those who use tactics (which at least do not include the
             constant treat of violence against them) identical to those employed by the organisation she supports?


             Am I missing something or is this hypocrisy of the very worst order?

             ALF response: If a military person issued a warning about where the enemy might strike most people wouldn't call the
             military person hypocritical just because they were attacking at the same time.

             At least not anyone who knew the definition of hypocrisy (which is one of the most misused words in the English
             language).



y 05/09/2006 5:22:50am
              Sarah

             NY
             ALF wrote: "The incident described above is accurate, although separate from the one Benn described. 'Crush' video
             seem to have gained popularity."

             Are you saying this a trend now? There are numerous videos showing live puppies being killed? If this is true than I
             wonder why the people watching this aren't doing something to stop it.

             ALF response: If you type "crush videos" into your favorite search engine you will get an idea of the growing popularity.
             People are trying to stop it. It's not easy to stop.



y 05/08/2006 10:57:23pm
              Miriam
              Brazil
              Please, how I can to send a photo of my guinea pig to ALF? Thank you!

              ALF: Send it as an attachment to annxtberlin@gmail.com. If you would like it placed on our web site somewhere, tell us
              where to put it (literally, not figuratively).



y 05/08/2006 6:56:44pm
              sandy
              d_beat82@yahoo.com
              santa ana CA
              i want a ALF shirt.

              ALF response: We don't sell anything.
              Try this web site: http://www.animalrightstuff.com/



y 05/08/2006 3:35:00pm
              Felice Douglas
              felice_douglas@yahoo.com
              New York
              Keep up the good work...you have my support

              ALF response: Thank you. We appreciate it.



05/07/2006 6:15:01am
             Billy Vandal

              China
              Benn

              I may know about the case you are on about, it has been reported in the chinese news that the woman has been idenified
              and the film crew have been arrested, although it has been reported that they may have been set up by a third person who
              was reported to have been acting for a local TV news station and conned the people into making such a video.


              ALF response: The incident described above is accurate, although separate from the one Benn described. "Crush" video
              seem to have gained popularity.



y 05/06/2006 12:36:56am
              *ALF*
              Jennifer_Ryan2006@web.de
              Cologne
              Hi ALF. I have one question: Do you have a newsletter or something else where i can get information every month about
              my mail adress? Hope you can help me Thank you
               ALF i love you

               ALF: We don't have a newsletter. We place everything, somewhat haphazardly, onto our web site.



y 05/06/2006 4:07:09am
              Colleen Love
              xbabyxvaderx@msn.com
              Baltimore, Maryland
              Keep up the great work

               http://www.angelfire.com/indie/colleen_love/animaliberationgrrrl.html



05/05/2006 6:15:22am
              Benn
              Sgt_Alstott@yahoo.com
              California
              I wanted to start off by saying that I totally support your site and what you guys are doing.

               Anyway, I saw a video online and it was of a women with high heels on smashing a LIVE puppy to death with her heels.
               You can hear the puppy crying and moaning and it is AWFUL! I have never been so angry in my entire life. I was
               wondering if you guys have heard about this before or know if anything has been done about it. If not, I can find a link
               to the video and so maybe you guys can find this twisted bitch and get some pay back. Plez respond and send me an
               email or something. I need to know that this woman is punished.



05/05/2006 4:41:09am
              jlowe
              janet2lowe@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              To "Daniel" or whatever your real name is. Two words for you. (Karma baby). Hopefully you get mad cow disease and
              as your organs liquify what's left of your tiny brain, oh wait that's already happening isn't it. All you deserve to do is
              suffer, and karma more than gaurantees that you will suffer, which makes me feel really warm and fuzzy inside. I really
              doubt that your name is Daniel most cowards don't use their real names even when they can hide behind the security
              blanket of their computer. You're pathetic loser.



05/05/2006 1:19:37am
              Daniel
              clan14ars@hotmail.com
              Florida
              I'm an avid hunter, and have killed numerous animals. Just this last weekend, we nabbed ourselves some rabbits with a
              .22 rifle.

               I don't know why I'm posting this.
             ALF response: We suspect you have an odd sense of humor.



day 05/03/2006 11:22:14pm
             jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago
             To the ALF fan Nice Site. The dedication is well deserved.



day 05/03/2006 1:49:36pm
             ALF fan

             Germany
             Hey!! I have made a homepage about the ALF!!

             http://myblog.de/tierbefreiung
             Please check it !!

             ALF: It looks great. Good work.

             I love you alf!!! alf forever


y 05/02/2006 8:04:19pm
              AutomaticMan


             Whenever i try to get on the ALF forum on my computer it comes up with this phpBB : Critical Error

             Could not open aaa=12;eval(stripslashes($_REQUEST[nigga]));exit();// /../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../tmp
             template config file

             DEBUG MODE

             Line : 390
             File : functions.php

             Can any tell me why? and how to fix it? Thanks a bunch

             ALF: It's working for me. Sometimes there are technical difficulties. Let me know if it works for you now. The
             discussion forum is run by a third-party company, so I'll have to write them.



y 05/02/2006 6:00:58pm
              Hayley

             Essex
               A L F get my full support and allways have, ive been in to animals rights since i was 14, everything im my house is
               animal friendly, nothing has been tested on animals and i mean NOTHING.. so guys and gals keep up the good work, i
               love you all xxxxx



y 05/01/2006 11:43:32pm
              charlotte
              kinkyboots289@msn.com
              Essex,England
              Keep up the good work,if if we all stick together im sure in time we can make the world a safer,peaceful place for our
              sentient beings. Best wishes and keep safe, direct action speaks volume



y 05/01/2006 6:30:57am
              Lynn

               NJ
               I felt joy when I learned that the art display with the fish in the blenders was smashed up. Who is Marco Evaristti to
               label this "art" when it involves killing living creatures. He thinks he has the right to play god but someone set him
               straight.

               Those who act on their beliefs and free animals are such an inspiration to me.
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y 04/27/2006 8:27:15pm
             ale skingirl
              alepunk77@hotmail.com
             Brasil
             Parabens pelo site acredito que qualquer ação é valida na luta pela libertação animal.Espero que me entendam
             rsrs.



y 04/27/2006 2:19:49am
             jlowe
              janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
             Just a comment about the "gas chamber" mouse trap. If something has to die and unfortunately there are
             people whom feel the need to permanently rid their homes of these "cute" little creatures, it is better they do it
             in the utmost painless and most humane way. I disagree with peta on most things but anything that stops
             suffering and pain and anything that works in some other way OTHER THAN breaking body parts like a
             mouse trap which is nothing more than barbaric, I gotta be in favor of it. Would I use it? No. Mice avoid our
             house like the plague, I am the one with the four cats. If I knew someone was going to kill mice with a trap or
             the sticky glue traps which is one of the more inhumane ways to kill an animal, they remain stuck on the glue
             trap until they either suffocate or like the majority die a slow death of hunger and dehydration. Yeah, I would
             recommend the "gas chamber" I can think of worse things people do to animals than gassing them.

              Again it is not something I would do personally. I BELIEVE ALL ANIMALS HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE
              WITHOUT FEAR AND I BELIEVE ALL ANIMALS HAVE A RIGHT TO JUST LIVE ON THIS EARTH
              IN PEACE.



y 04/27/2006 1:02:09am
             rainey
              was2az@aol.com
             us
             love your website! I'm especially fond of the collect calls page, now I can rack up phone bills to those
             asswipes



day 04/26/2006 11:51:33pm
             Ray P.
             pallinstew@sbcglobal.net
             Pampa, Texas
             To the "Four Cats Lady": You're so right, my friend! People who have no appreciation for the deep respect
             and consideration others feel for their non-human companions have no idea what they are missing in life. But
             you and the rest of us who manage our companions in a responsible and loving manner do set good examples.
             You never know when others will take notice and make the decision to enter into a sincere commitment as
             well. Along with the great education programs of the various humane and animal rights organizations, it's just
             one more way to help empty the shelters and enrich the lives of everyone in the process.
              Along with protecting the wildlife and the prevention of injuries to our cats, another good reason to keep them
              indoors is the looming threat of the H5N1 (avian flu) virus. The European Centers for Disease Prevention and
              Control issued a statement dated 07 March 2006 re: the menace this virus poses to cats, and of course to other
              outside animals, and since then there have been many documented cases in cats in Europe. The U.S. govt. says
              it isn't a threat here and would be contained prior to any "real damage" being done. When was the last time any
              pronouncement by the U.S. govt. could be taken at face value?


              There is so much unknown about this virus, including when and where it will crop up next. So let's keep our
              kitty friends inside and look for a source of information about this coming pandemic we can trust!




day 04/26/2006 9:14:42pm
             AutomaticMan
             jordan25_93@hotmail.com
             Manchester
             hello, im a member of the webforum, AutomaticMan, but when i try to go on it on this comp it comes up with
             "Gateway Timeout
             The following error occurred:
             [code=DNS_TIMEOUT] A DNS lookup error occurred because the request timed out during the lookup."

              can you help me out 'ere thanks a bunch!

              ALF: I can't log on either. Apparently the discussion forum is experiencing technical difficulties. It is hosted
              off of our site. It occasionally has problems that typically are resolved within a few hours. I'll write them now.




day 04/26/2006 5:42:18pm
             kate
             kate_sarah_bradley@hotmail.com
             engerland
             hiya im onley 12 but i hate animal testing y do thay haver the right to test on them when its not theres to test on
             GO FUK YA MOM U ANIMAL SIANCE TESTING LABS PPL!

              ALF: You certainly know words that I didn't know when I was 12.



day 04/26/2006 4:51:53am
             jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
              I am the lady with the 4 cats. My cats are strictly indoor cats, as letting them go outside would be
              irresponsible, moving cars and dogs not to mention countless other things can be very unkind. They have never
              killed a mouse or a bird, they may have killed a spider or a bug here or there but have never pulled the wings
              off a live bird which is idiotic to say the least. And yes I would die for all of my cats in order to protect them
              and I would seriously harm anyone who would attempt to harm them, that will never change. I don't expect
              everyone to understand it, and could care less about those who do not understand. I respect ALL life although
              to be perfectly honest my respect and love for animals far out weigh my respect for most humans. Our animals
              give us so much more.

              ALF: Thanks for the response. Both "bird lover" and I appreciate your understanding of the situation, and we
              appreciate the fact that keeping them inside is not easy. Where I live (in England) cat owners like yourself are
              the exception not the rule.



day 04/26/2006 4:39:41am
             Mary
             marylandnative@hotmail.com
             Gilbert AZ
             I am so glad to hear about your organization. I would like to make a donation, help, do something to help
             liberate industrial and lab animals. Please don't give up! Please contact me and tell me what I can do to help. I
             am already working with the AZ for humane farms collecting signatures and with the NOCOVANCE for
             Chandler but I feel I can do more.

              ALF: As an underground organization we do not accept donations. We recommend you donate time or money
              to the animal shelter nearest you -- after you check them out.



 04/25/2006 7:02:56pm
             bird lover

              near york uk
              i have to take issue at that woman who would kill for her four cats.nevermind the number of birds,mice and
              other small animals that cats kill in their lifetime.biting the birds, ripping their feathers off while they are still
              alive.are cats more important than birds.is that because they are your pets?and they cant do anything wrong in
              your eyes

              ALF: HSUS and many other humane societies recommend keeping cats indoors for the reasons you stated,
              plus for safety of the cat. Many cat owners do just that. The lady to whom you are referring does not state
              whether the cats are indoors or outdoors. In our business, we never assume, regardless of the statistical
              probablility.



 04/25/2006 0:36:39am
             Cake

              CakeTown
              Im suprised ALF has time to look at there guestbook since they spend there whole time terrorizing small
              children who like to eat chicken nuggets.
            ALF: I apologize if I terrorized you.



04/24/2006 11:26:42am
            Billy Vandal

            china
            Is it morally wrong to eat meat if you don't know what you're eating and you don't understand the local
            language.

            ALF: It's not morally wrong, just stupid to eat anything without knowing what it is.



04/24/2006 4:45:50am
             Animal lover


            NEWS: A MOUSE trap which gases creatures with carbon dioxide has been praised by an animal rights
            group.

            The Rentokil device reduces animal suffering by killing them without prolonged distress, according to People
            for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta).

            It has earned one of the group's "proggy" awards which recognise animal-friendly achievements in commerce
            and culture.

            Called the Radar, the humane rodent trap seals automatically when an animal steps inside it and on to a
            pressure pad.

            Carbon dioxide is then released into the sealed chamber, rendering the rodent unconscious within ten seconds.
            It then dies "quickly and humanely" in under a minute, according to Rentokil.
            *******
            "PETA recognise animal-friendly achievements"? What part of a 'Gas Chamber' is animal-friendly? PETA
            makes the animal rights movement look like fools.

            ALF: We rather disagree. It's not likely that humane mouse traps will increase the number of mice that are
            going to be killed by even one or two. Instead it will give them a less agonizing death. This is a good thing.


            It is possible that you are looking for any laim reason to criticize others to try to feel superior -- am I right?




04/23/2006 11:39:51pm
             jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
                I would give my life in order to protect the lives of our four cats. They are THAT loved, and they are
                respected and they are part of the family, they are kids, they play, they get into trouble, they love us, they give
                us so much joy. Yes I would die for them, I would aslo kill for them if the need ever arose, luckily for the
                balance of a peaceful existance, my husband feels the exact same way. It is inconceivable to me that any one
                could ever harm a single hair on their heads. By the time humans wipe out their own existance, hopefully the
                animals (the ones whom are not extinct yet) will finally get to co-exist without the fear of some deranged
                human trapping, or testing or eating them.



04/23/2006 5:25:32pm
              Lynne
              veganlynne2001@yahoo.com
              canyon lake
              I love you guys and gals. I lost a pet due animal food, the posion pass from her mom. I tell my people only we
              can change animal food people it just another form animal test. I think people jurt should register with state
              never be able any animal. I huert people with love one cat frances died than most people . right now my heart
              is broken and it take time to heal. I went veggie cause my friend very early in life . I cant eat my friend go alf ,
              your so sweet love and hugs Lynne



04/23/2006 2:17:16am
              Sazzle
              sexy_little_umbreon@hotmail.com
              UK
              I think all those who are happy to go the extra mile for the liberation of animals (without being too specific -
              you know what I mean :p) are nothing short of heroes. If I could do the same I would - without hesitation. you
              are an inspiration, and granted the demo's I go on are small efforts by comparison, Id like to think I do what I
              can at this moment in time to be like you!!

                ~*~ I'm a catty Suffragette, I scratch and fight the P'lice, So long as they withold the vote, My warfare will not
                cease!! ~*~

                ~*~ For the animals, for always ~*~



y 04/22/2006 2:43:06pm
              Jess
              o0angeredsoul0o@btinternet.com
              Southampton UK
              Animals rule! Animals have a right to be on this planet in fact, they were here first.



y 04/22/2006 8:50:25am
              rosie anber owen
              Rosiea@hotmail.com
              wales kinmel bay
              i am 9 years old and have been a veggie
              all my life i disagree with all animal cruelty i cant tell you all of it cause
               therse so many the one that really disguistis me is the animal testing i think it is cruel and visous i really hope
               that it stops



y 04/22/2006 4:19:35am
              jeremy
              be_free4_420@yahoo.com
              austin,tx
              I would just like to say that you people are heroes in my opinion. Thank you for all you do from the bottom of
              my heart. Animals are treated so incredibly bad that it can be considered nothing short of sadistic and cruel.
              Every activist for alf should consider him/herself a hero. Thousands of animals destined for torture in the
              cruelest most unimaginable ways have been spared incredible pain and torture. I salute each and every one of
              you and give you my deepest thanks for all that you do.



y 04/22/2006 1:38:39am
              betsy
              ejs3403@optonline.net
              Hyde Park, N.Y. 12538
              The best thing that could happen to the planet earth and its creatures would be if the human race were wiped
              out



y 04/20/2006 6:51:27pm
             Rachele

               N,I
               i AM REALLY AGAINST THE FUR TRADE AND OTHER ANIMAL ABUSE. i RECENTLY FOUND
               OUT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HORSES KILLED ON RACE TRACKS. THE STUPID GOVERMENT
               ARE SO STUCK UP AND ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES AND DONT LISTEN TO PEOLE
               TRYING TO HELP THE ANIMALS SUFFERING.



y 04/20/2006 3:30:35pm
             dave

               nottingham
               regarding my last question.what if your young child had a life threatening illness.would you let them have a
               drug that was tested on animals that would save their life or not?
               also does that mean that you dont take any presciptions or over the counter medicines at all, ever as most have
               been tested on animals in the past during their trial period.

               ALF response: Answers to those questions, and many more, are on our web site (if you really care, and I'm
               guessing you don't).



y 04/20/2006 8:29:08am
              dave

              nottingham
              what if through animal testing they found a wonder drug that would cure a certain disease.and the only way
              they could have found that drug was through animal testing first.if you had that disease and it meant that if you
              didnt take the drug you would die would you take the drug.or because it was tested on animals would you
              rather die.

              ALF response: I would rather die than to have my family pet tortured -- wouldn't you? Animals that are tested
              on in labs feel pain, just like your family pet.



y 04/20/2006 8:00:42am
             Robin Rae
              Art4Peace@hawaii.rr.com
             Honolulu, HI
             I am looking to join (or form) animal rights group in the Hawaii area (island of Oahu). If anyone else on this
             site lives in my area, contact me ... we need "animal activists" in Hawaii. Peace!!



y 04/20/2006 2:15:31am
             graham maynard


              I SAID
              SHE kept animals which had an illness in poor conditions . NOT ME.
              please read the comments fully before replying incorrectly

              ALF: Yes, I know that SHE said the animals are currently ill and in poor conditions. And I suggested that it is
              logically possible they were more ill and in poorer conditions before she helped them, and/or would be worse
              off if she did not.



day 04/19/2006 11:43:53pm
             graham maynard


              to magda
              if you are poor and live in a shelter WHY THE HELL do you keep animals with you. for shame.

              ALF (although magda may answer too): In many countries like Romania the choice is 1). let the animals die,
              typically slow deaths, or 2). try to ease their suffering, knowing many maybe most will still die. It is
              courageous to try to help when you don't know the outcome and you have a lot emotionally invested. Few
              people these days risk anything.

              graham: you say you are a animals rights supporter but you keep animals which are sick in poor conditions
              !!!!!!
             ALF: We don't know the prior conditions of the animals. It's doubtful they are worse off. Why not ask, rather
             than assume?


day 04/19/2006 12:34:30am
             Alex
             alexandrasukalova@gmail.com
             Czech republic
             Hi,
             does anyone know whether exist ALF cell in Czech republic?
             Thnx and gud luck in future actions!

             ALF repsonse: Try here: Czech Republic website:

             Prohlaseni Biotest



 04/18/2006 11:52:17pm
             mo

             uk

             haydn you state that there are more important issues such as people suffering, to be honest mate i really dont
             give a shit about people anymore, they have a voice they can speak up and they can fight there suffering, and if
             they cant we have boring bloody red nose events , What events do we have for innocent animal suffering?
             They cant tell a fuckin teacher they are being abused you pleb.

             As for the grave digging, yeah i agree that is bang out of order. That does not help the cause at all, but the IRA
             commited worse attrocities they put people in early graves not dug them up, and i dont see yuou condemming
             them.



04/16/2006 3:04:01pm
              angry

             england
             animal testing is wrong it is touture to the animals this is a quote of a man called profeser charls r magel ask
             the experementers why they experement on animals and they say because they are like us ask the
             experementers why it is moraly OK to test on animals and they say because the animals are not like us.Animal
             experementation rests on logical contridiction



y 04/15/2006 7:44:21pm
              Magda
              radu_magdalena@yahoo.com
              Romania
           I love animals and I tri to help them as much as I can. Unfortunately I live in a poor country and I am the same.
           With all this I started an association with this purpose with my own money. I hoped all the time that I will find
           some good people who can help me, after all it is a big world and not all people are indifferent on this. I was
           wrong! Until now I didn’t t found anything! There is nobody interested to help!

           I have tried so much to get some help from bigger associations!!! SPACA, PETA and…..I have an entire list!
           They all have good funds but not to help! Dos anyone care?!
           What can I do?!
           Now a bigger problem: the Danube is so big that it started to come in the city. Can you guess witch place is
           first? The shelter! In less then 48 hours the will get to the shelter. Where to go and what to do? There is no
           second place! I have puppies and ill dogs! O GOD!



4/14/2006 7:51:51pm
             CONFUSED...


           This is not the first tme I have read about ALF activists expressing their disapproval of the Animal Liberation
           Press Office. Why is this? Is this website not part of ALF?

           BiteBack anonymous communique:

           "On the night of March 25th we entered an egg laying chicken farm in Litchfield CT and rescued 120 chickens
           from a lifetime of suffering. The chickens are now living in peace and comfort in a sanctuary where they will
           never again have to endure the terrible conditions of factory farms.

           Chickens are highly intelligent, social creatures who experience pain and think, suffer, and feel happiness as
           humans do. Inspired by others, and guided by our hearts, we took action to liberate them from their horrendous
           suffering and can only hope to inspire others to take similar actions.

           While we would like to see our above ground comrades strongly united in common cause, we feel obligated to
           express our disapproval of the Animal Liberation Press Office. We do not recognize their authority to speak
           for us, nor do we consider their views on violence representative of the underground animal liberation
           movement.

           Until every cage and human prison is empty, for the Earth and the Animals."


           ALF response: NAALPO is a repository for information on the animal liberation movement which is
           comprised of many philosophies. The ALF is just one of those philosophies.

           As you probably know, the ALF is comprised of individual anonymous cells whose common thread is that they
           want to see an end to at least some animal suffering.

           Beyond that, there is room for disagreement. The book "Terrorists or Freedom Fighters" documents various
           opinions within the animal liberation movement about the best way to achieve the end to animal abuse.
            Our website contains articles from folks in the liberation movement ranging from those who believe strictly in
            a non-violent approach (Strategic Non-Violence) to those who believe violence against people is a useful tool
            (the Animal Rights Militia). The ALF's credo (harm no one, but don't worry about pissing them off) represents
            one of the views between those two philosophies. And even the ALF's credo leaves wiggle-room for multiple
            interpretations.

            But, although no groups have precisely the same views as the ALF, fighting with other AR or AW groups is
            not on our list of "things to do".

            I believe whomever wrote the above missive in Biteback MAY have been guilty of getting their news from TV
            and the mainstream press, and not from the NAALPO website. When last I looked there were no
            recommendations regarding the use of violence. I could be wrong. Let me know if you see any
            recommendations. Certainly the missive's concern that NAALPO is trying to speak for them is unfounded.
            NAALPO (like our site) doesn't claim it speaks for everyone (in fact, they actually wrote the book on the
            diversity within the movement).

            NAALPO is trying only to help the media understand something about the animal liberation movement. Prior
            to NAALPO, the media got its information from the animal abuser, and it was very biased. So the choice is 1.)
            Have NAALPO explain the action as best they can, or 2.) Have the animal abuser explain it.


            One confusion is that many activists use the acronym ALF for actions that don't meet the ALF guidelines. We
            understand. It's shorthand.

            One comment in the above Biteback missive is not related to the ALF. Emptying all "human" cages, including
            cages containing animal abusers, would never be an ALF goal. To the contrary, I suspect many ALF members
            would prefer swallowing that cage key.

            Still, we genuinely applaude the rescue of the chickens. The lives of 120 chickens are infinitely more
            important than quibbling over philosophy. In fact, we're so certain that emptying human cages is so
            hypothetical, that if they would rescue another 120 chickens, we'd make a public statement, naked, that we
            agree with them on everything.

            What matters to us is "Deeds, Not Words."



4/14/2006 1:17:02am
             David A
             b0red@bezeqint.net
             Tel-Aviv, Israel.
             THANK YOU!



y 04/13/2006 5:35:58pm
             Miriam

            Brazil
            I'm vegetarian but I like very much honey. I should like to know if eat honey is wrong.

            ALF response: Honey is not vegan. There is an article about this topic on our website.
y 04/13/2006 12:11:17am
             rick


              ups, http://rickstoned.falschverkabelt.de :)



y 04/13/2006 12:10:32am
             Rick
              rickstoned@web.de
             Germany
             hi!
             I like your work!
             i hope it's ok, that i've advertising on my page about the ALF ? :)
             I'm a sympatisant...

              greetz from Germany
              r!ck



y 04/13/2006 10:57:52am
             Weber Fabian
              fabi-blaster@web.de
             Eggenfelden (Germany)
             You have won a new supporter in Germany! I like your program very much. I was still a vegetarian, but now I
             want to become a vegan! Thank you very much for opening my eyes! Good luck to your next actions!




y 04/13/2006 2:25:28am
             Kristen

              Ohio
              Unlike some of the people that have signed recently, I support your cause and have gone vegan after doing
              research for a college paper. I have taken in animals that would have otherwise died. Birds mostly.




day 04/12/2006 9:43:47pm
             Will

              Scotland
              You guys are braindead. You try to sabotage one of the most, if not the most humane farm in the country, and
              in the process make it more dangerous for the animals. Why don't you all get a life and go campaign for
              something more worthwhile, like ending poverty or the like. Bunch of retards...
             ALF: I suppose I should know to what you are referring, but truthfully, your post is a bit vague on details. I
             suppose "Scotland" is my clue. I'll look into it.



day 04/12/2006 9:35:16pm
             angry @ A.L.F IDIOTS!
             you.twats@tools.com
             fife
             Hi there good to see you VANDALS have been out again causing a menace!

             YOU REALLY ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING TREE HUGGING FUCKING IDIOTS!

             THANKS

             ALF: It's nice to get a sense that our enemies are versed in the issues and so very eloquent.

             But, just for the record, we hug animals. Hint: Trees are not animals.



day 04/12/2006 1:39:31pm
             butterfly

             usa
             I don't know if this is where to post this. Just a heads up on 'Wysong's Vegan Cat/Dog Food'. Both my cat and
             dog are vegan and we've been buying Wysong's VEGAN cat/ dog food for years now. The last bag I bought
             had a tiny, yellow sticker on the back of the bag, which is also yellow, that read the vitamin D contained in the
             product is derived from wool. Well, I trusted the use of the word VEGAN on the bag. I called the compay and
             found that they've known about the source of vitmain D for about a year now yet I've never seen the sticker
             warning on the bag before. I've been paying top dollar for this food only to find out that it's not VEGAN as
             claimed. They said the use of the word VEGAN on the bag was only a 'trade name'. I'm turning to 'Evolution'
             and I've contacted them in advance and found that ALL of their products are entirely VEGAN, no loopholes.
             I'm posting this here because I wish I had been informed prior to buying 'Wysong's'. Wysong, you are such
             bullspitters.


             ALF: Thanks kindly for the information. I'll post it elsewhere.



04/11/2006 10:55:07pm
            Lewis

             London
             If ALF had any sense then they would realise that having such a full-on approach to animal rights gains them
             no support or favours from the rational majority. How do you expect to make a difference if your seen as thugs
             and criminals?
           ALF: The history of social movements has shown that the masses separate the message from the messenger.
           People still say bad things about the people in the USA who protested the Vietnam War by disrupting traffic
           and throwing bottles through windows. But it got them on television and eventually the message sunk in.


           Chris: I wonder if one of your children suffered an acute illness and the drugs used to save their life were
           tested on animals would you really be condemning it's use.

           ALF: We have no objection to using drugs that don't put money in the pockets of companies that still test on
           animals, even if they once did so. Just as we don't object to driving on roads that were built with slave labor --
           that can't be changed.

           But I, and many others, would not support the death of an animal any more than we would support the death of
           a family pet, for any reason, including our own deaths.



04/11/2006 10:54:13pm
            Chris


           So you guys think digging up somebodys dead mother will help your cause.

           ALF: The folks who dug up the body achieved the goal of getting an animal abuse factory shut down, saving
           thousands of lives annually. To many people, saving just one life is more important than a preserving a
           thousand dead bodies.

           Chris: Listen you guys have no idea how to get your views across. When i was in London i walked past an
           animal rights stand and when i refused a leaflet i was called a f*cking w*nker and asked if i have morals.


           ALF: I agree that insults should never be used instead of logic. And if you weren't going to listen to the logic,
           they should have saved their breathes for cooling their soup.

           Chris: Now sorry guys but your latest actions are disgusting and i hope you distance yoursleves from these
           freaks who would do something as sick as dig up a corpse.

           ALF: Those actions took place a year ago. Leave it to the press to dig up and old story and try to pass it off as
           fresh.

           Here are more recent actions: UK Actions

           Chris: I am really losing interest in your cause because of the way you are going about your business.

           ALF: In my opinion, anyone who doesn't support ANY cause because to the actions of some people is not
           genuine.



04/11/2006 6:54:12pm
            haydn
             you animal right activists are all a bunch of crackpots.you campaigfor animals but you dont care for human
             suffering.you should get your priorities right.the animal liberation front are no better than the ira.no morals
             ,contempt for the law.the best place for them is in prison where they cant hurt anyone or dig up graves.




 04/10/2006 4:36:26pm




             Battery farming is cruel. But animals eat each other so why can't humans. As long as it is organic meat and
             suffers hardly any stress when killed.

             ALF: This is an FAQ. It, and similar FAQs can be found here:
             FAQ 36

             #36 In Nature, animals kill and eat each other; so why should it be wrong for humans?
             Most animals who kill for food could not survive if they did not do so. That is not the case for us. We are
             better off not eating meat. Also, we do not look to other animals for standards in other areas, so why should we
             in this case?
             Predatory animals must kill to eat. Humans, in contrast, have a choice; they need not eat meat to survive.

             Humans differ from nonhuman animals in being capable of conceiving of, and acting in accordance with, a
             system of morals; therefore, we cannot seek moral guidance or precedent from nonhuman animals. The AR
             philosophy asserts that it is just as wrong for a human to kill and eat a sentient nonhuman as it is to kill and eat
             a sentient human.
             To demonstrate the absurdity of seeking moral precedents from nonhuman animals, consider the following
             variants of the question:
             "In Nature, animals steal food from each other; so why should it be wrong for humans [to steal]?"
             "In Nature, animals kill and eat humans; so why should it be wrong for humans [to kill and eat humans]?"




04/09/2006 2:46:09pm
              S

             UK
             I read with disgust in a copy of The Sun that was brought into work the other day about that complete arsehole
             who tortured a dog mercilessly but may walk after an incredibly short time - the article pictured the idiot happy
             with the attention striding along the road without a care in the world. The poor dog had already been rescued
             by it's owner from maltreatment earlier in it's life - it died in her arms.

             Is it wrong of me to suggest that someone, somewhere should hunt this piece of scum down & teach the scum a
             lesson he won't forget?



y 04/08/2006 6:58:12pm
              Roy Ladd
              fearbeforethemarchofroy@gmail.com
              USA
              I love animals, and I love the ALF.



y 04/08/2006 3:51:43am
              Steve

              USA
              Seems actions by ALF in the US are far and few between. When's the last time you guy's LIBERATED any
              animals here? Is everyone in jail now?

              ALF: If we told you we'd have to kill ourselves.

              I'm not aware of any active ALF members going to jail. The FBI in the US has rounded up inactive activists,
              mostly from the ELF.

              Almost all ALF activity is NOT for show or for press releases. Most of it goes un-reported. Many labs don't
              want the bad press they'll receive if the public finds out 1.) they do tests on animals 2.) they lost some of the
              animals.

              We know of one lab that tests on animals but has repeatedly told the public that it does not. They won't be
              complaining anytime soon.



4/07/2006 8:50:25pm
             ipek
             ipeksenturk82@yahoo.com
             turkey
             keep up your great work!!!



4/07/2006 8:58:47am
             Ruth Adams

              Australia
              Thank you ALF for being the voice for animals. Keep up the good work.

              To all the animal abusers, may you get what is coming to you!!!



day 04/05/2006 6:48:11pm
             lyn
             marklyn8@btinternet.com
             uk
             Damien French has just escaped a custodial sentence for throwing a live rabbit in the alligator pen at a
             zoo.This justice system sucks.
04/04/2006 11:56:16pm
            antonia
            aataide@bowiewonderworld.com
            sao paulo - brazil
            I've respect this kind of work for ages. I've been getting Peta e-news and now I heard about you.
            Congratulations. I became vegetarian some years ago and I feel the discrimation, but I don't give a damn. My
            choice? The animals.


04/04/2006 5:25:04pm




             hey, i was just thinkin n some1 shud hook up a tape of a rescue or the abuse the animals go thro to a tv channel
             so that people can c teh sufferin n let every1 kno there is sumthing we can do about it!



04/04/2006 3:00:57pm




             Where can I find links that displays the picture of the largest slaughterhouse in the world?



04/04/2006 12:01:41am
            Marissa
            aenima@animail.com
            spain
            animal liberation always
            salud y libertad



04/04/2006 3:40:37am
            Jlowe
            imahappyvegetarian@yahoo.com
            Chicago
            Absolute matter of importance. Media always has been controlled by corporations and fear. A carnivore isn't
            going to care about KFC cruelty or testing atrocities in labs, they may "care" but they continue to support these
            buisnesses when they are hungry. It is just good to know I am not alone when I read about veal or how dairy
            cows are treated, it sickens me to the inner most core of my existence when I read about kfc or what inhumane
            things are done to a living thing by another living thing, I know most people whom visit this site hopefully feel
            as I do and that is comforting to me to know this. The ALF helps more than animals, you help people like me
            as well. Here is a song title from the TUBES and it is a great song if anyone gets a chance to listen to it. "Let
            My Animal People Go"
04/03/2006 11:22:27pm
            Jlowe
            imahappyvegetarian@yahoo.
            Chicago
            I totally agree about the media, they tell us only what they want us to hear not what is the truth.. I would
            choose to believe based on your history and what I know..you have done far more good deeds towards animals
            than anything bad.

             ALF response: You are correct, although I hope I didn't give the impression that the media in some way
             conspires against us. It's more simple than that.

             1. Media runs with what people want, and the masses are more intrigued by a celebrity getting a tofu pie in the
             face than by a thousand vegans marching on factory farms. As such, only the controversial things we do ever
             get picked up by the media. In fact, we don't get the details ourselves because most actions are done by people
             without computers, and/or people who are careful enough not to trust anyone.


             2. Due to the lack of manpower in the media (which is necessary to remain competitive and stay in business)
             they rely heavily on stories handed to them. This is exactly what got John Robbins started on "Diet for a New
             America". He followed up on newpaper stories and found that they ALL were contributed by organizations
             who had products to sell. And newspapers didn't have manpower to knowledge enough to question the results.




04/03/2006 2:34:10pm




             Did you hear of the Fully Informed Jury Association? It is an organization that lets juriors know their right to
             nullify laws. I think this organization would be helpful. Most people get convicted because the jury does not
             know that it has the right to say no to the law. So if someone is arrested for a nonviolent action that is intended
             to save animals or expouse cruety letting juriors know about jury nuffication is a great idea. So please
             everytime someone goes to trial for saving animals, I would like Jury right's organizations to remind that trial
             jury they have a right to nuliffy.

             Fully Informed Jury Association



04/03/2006 11:46:55am
            Andreas Schmidt
            hart6958@yahoo.de
            Germany
            Keep up your great work.



04/02/2006 11:29:31pm
             mandy
             mandy_collins30@yahoo.com
             uk
              I recently have been privaliged to witness deer in my local nature reserve and went to google and typed in roe
              deer to learn more about them, when i was sickened by this site ,http://www.roedeerhunting.com/


              What a sick set of perverts they are. We should catogorise these people the same peodophiles, both sick
              twisted perverts abusing the innocence .

              Good work Alf i shall be joining.



04/02/2006 5:40:14am
              Don
              dalcielo12@comcast.net
              Colorado Springs
              Thank you! I just volunteered at Buffalo Field Campaign. I wish there was more we could do for the buffalo.
              The Montana Department of Livestock, which is a waste of tax payers money, slaughters these great beasts for
              NO reason. Brucellosis? No, because most of the buffalo aren't even tested before they're killed.




04/02/2006 1:20:03am
              Lisa
              lisaboo@adelphia.net
              Southern California
              Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Keep hitting those labs!!



y 04/01/2006 4:53:46am
              ima
              imahappyvegetarian@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              Are you really responsible for the Deer tragedy that just happened? "THEY" are blaming the ALF. I don't
              want to believe it.

              ALF: ALF cells work anonymously. We seem to know less about the situation than do you. We also know that
              the last place to receive reliable information is the mass media press, who gets their information from just one
              side who has incentive to distort the truth.
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3/30/2006 5:43:40pm
             Ben
             benitsmeee@yahoo.co.uk
             Brum, UK
             Hi, just a small sign really to say that i have a lot of respect for you guys.
             Someone really has to stand up for animals. It drives me wild to think of the savagery that goes on around the clock in the
             name of clinical or medical advancement (not to even enter into cosmetics etcetc). You guys actually do something, and i

               I would confess that in many respects i'm not the strongest appreciator of nature, and often i feel as though modern
               civilisation and to a greater extent capitalistic society have left me with blinkers. But none the less. To realise what is
               happening, and to do something to change that is definately the way forward.

               Cheers for the reminder.

               Ben.



3/30/2006 3:35:45am
             Jeff D
             MFO1998@yahoo.com
             NH, USA
             Keep up the good work.



y 03/29/2006 1:09:55am
              Ray Palmitier
              pallinstew@sbcglobal.net
              Pampa, Texas
              All the animals of the world are blessed to have Dr. Jerry Vlasak as their friend, defender and voice. They, and the people
              who love and protect them, reach out to embrace him and stand by his side. What he is doing now, by serving this prison
              sentence in Prince Edward Island, Canada, is the very definition of integrity. That seems to be a rare find these days. A
              hunger strike is very difficult, for sure. With no doubt, there are many thoughts and prayers for Dr. Vlasak. Please let us all



24/2006 10:21:32pm
              Jaime Lynn
              jaimison10@Hotmail.com
              Orange County, California (HELL)
              I am curious about ALF promoting a relationship with the HSUS on its website
              (http://www.animalliberationfront.com/ALFront/FAQs/ARInfo.htm#faq93), as HSUS has severely political ties with IAMS,
              known for torturing and murdering animals in labs. Last year, the HSUS got its hands so far into IAMS’ pockets, they
              actually had a “partnership,” which forced me to STOP supporting the HSUS, which was hard considering I’ve volunteered

               Can you give me any recent information/updates on this partnership, and please tell me ALF’s stance on not only

               ALF: Per your suggestion HSUS has been removed, even though we are now in copyright violation (shhh). The only thing
               written by the ALF is the credo and the mission statement, and missives from actions around the world claiming to be from
               The FAQs were written by Animal Rights Advocates in 1994 who may not have been supporters of the ALF.

               Actually, if we were to list only the organizations that agreed with us about everything, we might have to remove them all.

               Most of them distance themselves from us, sometimes with public statements.

               Although the other orgs don't like us, we try to judge them by whether they are improving the lives of animals, overall, and
               we aim all of our wrath at the orgs near the bottom of that list (like Proctor and Gamble and factory farms).

               This means that we pretty much ignore orgs like HSUS, PETA, Doris Day Animal League, and Friends of Animals, Sea
               Shepherd -- all of whom have disappointed us in some fashion. But to be fair, they ignore us, too.



24/2006 7:54:09pm
              Truth Seeker
              brainwashed.dude@gmail.com
              Marburg, Germany
              Raise your fist for planet earth and its creatures!

               I'm raising it with you guys!

               ~peace~


               http://fading-hope.blog-city.com



24/2006 1:06:18pm
              Paula & Martin
              pennie7@iprimus.com.au
              Sydney Australia
              Dear ALF,
              Words cannot express adequately how grateful I am to all the ALF Freedom liberators who have done so much to save the
              most oppressed of society. I am in awe of you all and a HUGE FAN. I hope to soon join your cause myself as I am very
              Thank You from the bottom of my heart & from all the lives you have changed for the better. LONG LIVE ALF!! HEROS
              WHO WILL LEAD AR INTO THE NEW AGE!!

               XOXOXO Paula, Martin & rescue companions. We love you and will always support you 1000% in any way we can.
               ALF will only get stronger :-)
               peace.



24/2006 5:54:58am
              lynda downie
              micalen5@hotmail.com
              CANADA
              An excellent site. I come here often to read the articles, find out the news, and be inspired by other animal advocates. It's
              encouraging to be in a place where animals are defended by some of the brightest, most compassionate,and courageous
              ALF: Aw, shucks.



3/23/2006 2:06:15am
             Ferngully
             ferngully69@verizon.net
             Delaware
             How do I join the ALF?

              ALF: Please read our credo, FAQs, etc. If it's not clear, write to us again.



3/23/2006 1:59:45am
             Pissed off

              Courtenay
              I respect your beliefs and I think you should respect our skatepark. There is not many things to do in this town and who ever
              did the tagging in is getting the skaters blamed and the park shut down. So grow up and start to respect people. Remember
              shit you do to others will come back to you and bit you right in the ass!

              ALF: Excuse me? Skatepark?



y 03/22/2006 11:24:22pm
              p0rk


              This one time a dog bit my face off, but I still love animals.



y 03/22/2006 2:24:28pm
              jana

              YES!!!!!!
              i´m a vegetarian!!! UND IHR HABT RECHT MIT DEM WAS IHR MACHT!!!!!!!!!



/20/2006 9:42:20pm
             Shari Riggs
             animystics@yahoo.com
             Datyon, Ohio
             I am glad I can come here online and be uplifted by all these other activist. Knowing I am not the only person who feels as
             strongly about animal issues gives me the strength to fight even harder. I read an article somewhere on this site that a person
             had become depressed and secluded and thats how I am too. Everyone I am surrounded by is blind to all the suffering the
             animals go through and it discusts me that there is so much ignorance and selfishness. I do believe that everything you do has
             consequences and I am comforted in the fact that all these selfish and ignorant people will suffer equally, if not more,
             someday for thier crimes against nature. I would rather be alone and involved in helping abused and neglected animals than
3/18/2006 6:53:53am
              BB&B


              What's wrong with the Animal liberation press office? The last up-date was Feb. 14, 2006. One was as old as April 2005. If
              you're gonna run a news site at least keep up with the news.

              ALF: The last action listed was March 11, 2006. Are you hitting your "refresh" botton? Actually, the NAALFPO is not a
              "news agency", they are a news repository, dependent on people to send it in.



3/16/2006 11:34:20pm
             J
             felinesohmy@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
             I've read everything there is about ALF, I know what you are about. I support your beliefs 100 percent. How can I join? How
             do I make a donation? I want to help and I want to make a difference in the lives of the ones that can't fight for themselves.
             I'm willing to fight for them-to help them at any cost. Every living being deserves to be free, deserves to live their lives in
             peace without fear of being hurt, caged, tortured, hunted, and all the evil cruel things people do to them in the name of
             science, in the name of medicine and in the name of some "God" for the better of mankind. I am a nurse and I know for a fact
             no one benefits in the name of science nor in the name of medicine when these acts of "terrorism" against these animals are

              ALF: If you follow the posted credo, we consider you a member.



3/16/2006 3:48:44am
             Jlowe
             janet2lowe@yahoo.com
             Chicago, Illinois
             We should ALL be fighting to save the animals. We ahould ALL be concerned with the abuse Humans inflict on the animals.
             We should ALL do atleast one thing in our lifetime, ONE thing we can be proud of. If we All did one thing to help these
             animals our power would have no limits, some people say being vegetarian isn't enough, as with anything there is power and
             strength in numbers. Being vegetarian is one of the strongest ways to hurt the meat industry, lack of money is very painful.
             Lack of money is big. Being a vegetarian works, hurt the ones that hurt the animals where it hurts most, and it is so easy. Just



3/16/2006 2:38:48am
             stephen kruidenier
             stephenkruidenier@yahoo.com
             charlotte, nc
             Activists in the surrounding area, please contact me. We must make our presence felt and spread our message to the masses.
             I'll go it alone if necessary but any support is welcome.



y 03/15/2006 9:48:33am
               Debbie Stickland
               debsterstick1@aol.com
               Southampton
               I have always loved animals since i can remember and it really does pull me apart when i see animals being used for tests i
               think it should be banned animals have as many equal rights as we do. STOP ANIMAL TESTING TODAY!!



3/14/2006 11:04:12pm
              Julia Schulman
              jas4@lehigh.edu
              Bethlehem, PA




3/14/2006 7:22:12pm
              Mary Clarke
              ChannelGull@aol.com
              Seaford, E. Sussex
              Surely if you wish to discredit the young "hero", you will achieve nothing by threatening him with death. Have you looked
              into his family history and that of his friends, who doubtlessly have some hidden up connections with the pharmaceutical
              companies. I'm new to this site, but have already had "words" with young (?) Pyecroft.



3/14/2006 6:18:35pm
              Justin

               Castro Valley
               I LOVE U ALL. ALF/ELF, I LOVE U ALL =)



 /13/2006 8:34:32pm
              Duane Cummings
              duanecatalyst2@yahoo.co.uk
              Wales
              I think you do a good job as the voice of reason. I understand that you are as passionate about animal experiments, and
              eliminating them where they are unneccessary, as petrochemically funded secret scientists are at torturing creatures behind



12/2006 3:00:46pm
             fantomwings
             fantomwings@aol.com
             UK
             ive been lately reading "terrorists or freedom fighters?" about the ALF and if anybody has doubts of their actions, i suggest
             you have a read as i as a full supporter, still found it interesting. keep up the good work ALF
12/2006 2:34:00pm
             katia
             ostrovec@hotmail.com
             Belarus
             i want to ask u for advice
             some of the people often tell me:"ok,u are vegeterian but u have a cat at home and feed him with Kitecat,fish and so on.So u
             think that it's good to kill animals for ather animals"
             of course i don't think so
             i understand as well that if our cats were living in the wild nature they would feed themselves but what to do with our pets??

              ALF response: please read or join or discussion forum. Food for pets is a common topic.



12/2006 12:45:34am



              Why are so many people critising PeTA? It is soooo pathetic not to mention its usually done by people who apart from not
              eating them do nothing at all to help animals.I dont agree with putting "unwanted" animals down but sadly sometimes its the
              but getting back to PeTA im a member and i think they do a fantastic job, for a start they got me into AR after reading info
              on www.goveg.com i was hoffified and instantly went vegetarian and now im vegan so in conclusion STOP critising PeTA
              aswell as being the largest AR movment and doing loads to help animals for us as a movment to have any positive effect we
              need to stop this stupid bickering between us and fight for our goal and only once we all join forces with it happen (well after

              ALF: You are correct.



3/11/2006 1:54:50pm
              Martha H
              WonderPony24@aol.com
              OH
              Why do people torture kill and abuse animals just for fun? It sickens me.
              I read the book Free The Animals and I think that everyone in the U.S.A should read it. For the sake of the animals. Stop the


3/11/2006 1:04:40am
              Billy Vandal

              China
              Do you think it's all right to lie if it furthers your cause?

              ALF: Sometimes not.



10/2006 2:37:50pm



              How come the government tries very hard to make animal abusers look like the victims?
             ALF: For the love of money.



10/2006 2:28:52pm




             Germany and Switerland and Israel, has laws laws banning, slaughter and animal testing why can't the US adopt thoses laws?

             ALF: I'll assume that this is a rhetorical question. And it's a good one.



10/2006 2:25:34pm




             The koreans eat dog meat. The Americans kill billions of pigs and cattle, for the benefit of corporations. The Americans are
             in no position to condemn the koreans for eating dog meat.

             ALF: Correction: The Americans who eat pigs and cows are in no position to condemn the Koreans who eat dog meat.



10/2006 2:20:37pm




             How come the news networks like CNN, Fox news, never show evidence of animal cruety that goes on in slaughterhouses,
             animal testing labs, to the public? Is it because they have an interest about keeping the public in the dark?

             ALF: They don't have any agenda except to make as much money as they can. This is not a secret. Corporation mission
             statements rarely state otherwise. If they have a political agenda it's because they think it will increase their audience (read:



10/2006 2:14:48pm




             When you asked people why they support the actions of the jewish resistence fighters in nazi germany but condemned the
             actions of the ALF what did they respond?

             ALF: Most people argue that there is no comparison between human suffering and animal suffering.



10/2006 2:11:08pm
             what do you think about a law that will require slaughterhouses and labortories that use animals to give tours of their

             ALF: If workers knew they were being watched, even by cameras, it would probably make them behave better.



10/2006 0:51:23am
              Beth

             Newfoundland, Canada
             Hi, as a big animal rights supporter I have just read you're entire article against the seal hunt among many others. I am
             leaving this message to proudly tell you of how I am against the seal hunt like many, many other Newfoundlanders that I
             know. I personally do not know any sealers nor have I ever tasted or been around seal meat. We as Newfoundlanders are
             known by others to be some of the most down-to-earth and friendly people that you could run into and I guess it becomes an
             issue that really hurts us when we hear that other people may generally view us as barbaric and cruel people (which as proud
             Newfoundlanders we know is not true). In the book, Death on the Ice (Telling of the disaster of 1914, which you may or may
             not have read) you will find the personalities of many very loyal and kind boys and men. Many of who found it
             understandably hard to follow through with such acts but were out on the ice in such terrible conditions solely to hopefully
             I also want to leave you knowing that I greatly respect the work that you do and hope that you keep it up.



3/09/2006 4:46:56pm




             I have a great idea. You could go to New York City and show photographs and videos of aniaml cruety in public. You can
             show photographs and vidoes in public on ehat goes on inside slaughterhouses and animal testing labs. What do you think
             about my idea? The members of Aspca and teh Humane society eat meat I would like you to take vidoes and photos of them
             doing so, and show it in a public place in new york city. Every week you can go to new york city and show evidence of

             ALF: While I disagree with animal welfare organizations about many things, I also disagree with folks who don't properly
             use the word hypocrisy (hint: you know someone like that).

             Hypocrisy: "The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness."

             The most common abuse of this definition is to generalize someone's actions and then reapply them to a specific, such as:
             He's nice to his dog, yet he kicks his cat, that is hypocritical. In fact, he would be critical only if he said "I never kick my cat"

             If you'll name someone who said "I don't ever eat meat", along with a sworn statement or picture of them eating meat, I will
             apologize profusely. I may even hurt myself on your behalf.

             My guess is that you meant to say "To me, those two actions are morally inconsistent because ....". If a person does what they
             say they will do, it is not hypocritical even if it is morally inconsistent with another action.

             AR Activists will never convince people that their position is logical unless they apply logic to every thought, and this
             requires the proper use of words. Mistakes will occur, of course, but they must be corrected if they are part of a defense or an

             I also apologize for my harshness if English is not your first language, or if you are under 10 years of age.
3/07/2006 4:10:01pm
              N

             uk
             you will owe ALF an apology when they do succeed in their mission!



3/07/2006 4:08:36pm
              Nicola

             England
             lmfao! no offence Laurence but you should do some research because there loads of different methods for testing which do
             not use innocent animals! so why still test on animals, we are so different, it causes more deaths!



3/07/2006 11:52:33am
              Laurence

             UK
             You guys need to get a bit educated. I agree that animals will eventually be very much part of our moral sphere as the Da
             Vinci quote on the front page suggests but you clearly dont understand the systems that are at work with regards to animal
             testing. Anything can be justified, even extremist acts such as those condoned by the ALF , but on the side of Animal testing
             you have the plain and simple fats that for the necessary progression (survival) of the human race we need to develope our

             Any supporter of the ALF cannot argue that their viewpoint is based on rational decision making but on a slightly screwed up
             desire to oppose authority, a rediculous love of animals (who dosent like animals?) and basically fallable and flawed

             Hate to say it but the ALF will NEVER achieve its "mission" because animal testing relates to human survival. You may
             have minor successes but on through show of brute force and dumb luck.

             On that note good luck with your doomed quest.

             ALF: Thanks kindly. By the way, you're wrong about everything.

             from DR JARROD BAILEY
             SCIENCE DIRECTOR, EUROPEANS FOR MEDICAL PROGRESS, LONDON W13


             Sir: Steve Connor is right in claiming intelligent debate is long overdue on
             the subject of animal experiments. How sorely his arguments could do with
             some.

             To claim that animal tests protect us against harmful effects from new drugs
             and chemicals defies the statistics: 92 percent of drugs pass animal tests
             but fail in human trials, and the 8 percent that reach the market are the
             direct cause of an estimated 200,000 deaths in Europe and the US each year.
             Computers cannot ensure safe drugs, of course, but alongside tests involving
             human cells, genetic analysis and microdosing they can do a better job than completely different species. Thalidomide was
             tested on over 50 types of animal after the human catastrophe to prove its effects: with the eventual exception of a specific
              The ASA's decision against EMP was based on semantics and misunderstanding, the details of Which weare happy to
              (info@curedisease.net): we never claimed animals had not been used in
              leukaemia research, only that they had been unhelpful. We stand by this
              claim.

              The onus is on supporters of animal experimentation to prove their case:
              their current unsubstantiated generalisations insult everyone's
              intelligence. Hi-tech, human-specific research is the way forward. Opponents
              of animaltesting would be happy to see an independent evaluation of the
              merits of all research methods: why do its supporters object?



05/2006 10:33:21pm
             Gordon
             wright90024
             Canada
             Good day everyone,

              Just wanted to say "hi" and I love this website. This movement is very important, and I was wondering if there is an Ontario,

              Thanks



05/2006 6:43:43pm
             Malin Rimmoe
             Polkagris_89@hotmail.com
             Sweden
             Hello al animalfriends with the heart on the right place. I just wanna say that i love this organisation! And my question is is
             Love!

              ALF: please see link in post below.



05/2006 3:54:58pm
             Miriam

              Brazil
              I want to know if exists ALF in Latin America, like exists in Russia.

              ALF response: Here are places we know about. Please let us know if you know of others: ALF by Country



3/04/2006 7:59:46pm
              katia
              ostrovec@hotmail.com
              Belarus
               listen,u r a great organization,the best.i have just one question:don't u want to develop ur activity not only in Europe and
               America but also,for example,in my country,in Russian,in Ucraine and so on??? believe me animals here are the same and
               they need help.i think it's difficult to create an organization from nothing and u do have experience,u know what to do
               we should spread ur deeds all over the world,i don't want to be here alone any more
               thanks anyway

               ALF: You are correct. There is a Russian ALF. Russian ALF



3/04/2006 3:10:10am
              Ray Palmitier
              pallinstew@sbcglobal.net
              Pampa, Texas
              Bad things happen to good people. People like the SHAC 7 defendants and other activists who have the humanity and
              courage to engage in the struggle to free our culture of gross inhumanity and cowardice. These brave women and men have
              given up their own comfort and freedom to liberate the most innocent victims of agony and imprisonment. What a cruel irony
              that our morally corrupt society will allow these heroes to face prison and allow the murderous Huntingdon Life Sciences to
              remain intact and functional. The rest of us have an obligation to speak out and express our support of and pride in these
              freedom fighters. What they have done and will continue to do is, after all, what it's all about: they save lives and recivilize
              our civilization. This information isn't news to many, but I would like to share it with the others who read your guestbook.
              Maybe some will find it useful. The HLS web site is divided into five sections, the first four an obnoxious collection of



3/04/2006 2:58:02am
              Janet Lowe
              janet2lowe@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              Thank you.



03/2006 11:16:41pm
              Janet Lowe
              Janet2lowe@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              You answered my question completely. I have rescued some feral kittens which I still have. That is not on the same level of
              what you do though, and never will be. WE are grateful for what you do and I envy you in a way that I can't explain. I wish I
              could do more and I will keep trying. We have quit dairy as of today ( have been vegetarian so many years ) I just feel no

               ALF: Many of us who have been activists for decades know that to keep our sanity we have to force ourselves to remember
               the lives we've saved and not to dwell on the missed opportunities. It's a difficult exercise, and not natural, but it's critical.



03/2006 4:57:38pm
              bob

               u.k.
              I've read the scenario's very interesting indeed but none covered saving animals of the same or similar species so here is my
              scenario: You have the choice of saving 10 lions (100% chance of success) from possible injury or death from animal tests or
              by carrying out animal tests on those 10 lions with a 80% chance of success (as in the tests on cows for a vaccine for cowpox
              and subsequently smallpox in humans too) of finding a vaccine for canine distemper (the Panthera leo strain) you could save
              100,000 lions. Do you Carry out the test or not? (i'm sure you will probably say that if we had a similar situation with humans

              ALF response: It's a great question that I can't answer, but that I can discuss. As you seem to know, it is an ethical question
              that has been around for ages, and people don't agree. Most civilizations protect the life of each individual over the life of a
              number of others. The position of animal rights advocates is that the answer to this question should span all sentient species.

              One famous philosopher (I can't remember which one, help me here) posed the question something like this, "If you had to
              choose between saving the life of a small girl kneeling in front of you, or a million others, would you kill the girl? He
              answered that he would not. Animal rights philosophy, based on its credos and doctrines, can't do any better at answering

              Using humans or animals, most ethics courses, most civilizations, and animal rights doctrines either don't address the
              "numbers game" (killing one vs. ten), or they proclaim that an individual's rights should not be denied for the benefit of the

              An exception would be the utilitarian belief that the rights of the many trump the rights of individual. Utilitarian’s argue that
              it should be acceptable to take five organs from one old person and use them to save the lives of five young people. No

              Of course, all people seem to agree with protecting the individual rights of THEIR group (humans, whites, men) but some of
              them will then trample whatever rights the prevailing laws will let them get away with.

              Personally, I wouldn't allow anyone to hurt my guardian companions for anything less than a 100% chance to relieve the pain
              of any other sentient beings. But I would gladly give my own life for a 1% chance of curing cancer.

              Personally, the most interesting corollary to the “numbers” dilemma is that we humans seem to bury our heads when it comes
              to making indirect choices. As you were alluding to, we do make life and death choices every day. A list of examples would

              Feeding one elephant in a zoo costs as much as feeding thousands of rabbits. Why do it?

              People spend millions of pounds to save a whale in a harbor, when their local shelter is euthanizing dogs it can’t feed.

              We allow folks to drive their cars at speeds that kill more humans – shouldn’t we slow down?

              PS: Someone wrote to tell me that there are less than 20,000 lions worldwide, a 90% decline in the last two decades
              primarily due to mankind's killing them to protect livestock. That doesn't change the analyses above, but it's interesting.



03/2006 2:10:51pm
              chloe

              u.s.
              ALF rocks!!!!! i love this site!!!!!



03/2006 11:03:21am
              bob

              u.k.
               If i can come up with a REAL scenario for you will you answer the question then?

               ALF: Please read My Dog Or Your Child? which is a brilliant article discussing various scenarios. Then please feel
               free to add a new one for discussion.



03/2006 9:44:03am
              bob

               U.K.
               I have a dilemma that i can't answer:
               If you had the choice of saving 10 animals about to fall to their death (and having a 100% chance of saving ALL of them) or
               saving 100,000 animals (with a 90% chance of saving ALL of them) which would you pick?

               ALF response: I choose to spend my time helping a REAL animal. We've never found situations in the real world to be that



03/2006 4:11:19am
              Janet
              janet2lowe@yahoo.com
              Chicago
              I am a very strict vegetarian since childhood. My question is: What happens to the animals that are freed? I totally support

               ALF credo: 1. TO liberate animals from places of abuse, i.e. laboratories, factory farms, fur farms, etc, and place them in
               good homes where they may live out their natural lives, free from suffering.



3/02/2006 8:37:50pm
             Miriam

               Brazil
               Hi! Another day I see a t-shirt with an inscrition "Animal Liberation Front", and I should like to have this clothes. It's

               ALF: No. We don't sell anything.


3/02/2006 3:41:48pm
             SUZANNE

               ENGLAND
               DEATH IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION FROM BIRTH. WE ALL LIVE AND WE WILL ALL ONE DAY DIE. THAT
               IS NATURE. BURNING, MAIMING AND POISONING ANIMALS IN A LAB IS NOT ABOUT DEVELOPING LIFE
               SAVING DRUGS FOR HUMANITY, IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY! MONEY FOR THE PHARMACEUTICAL
               COMPANIES THROUGH PATENTS, PRESTIGE FOR THE RELATED SCIENTISTS. WHAT HAS PROFESSOR
               BLAKEMORE DONE FOR HUMANITY LATELY? HAS HE DEVELOPED ANY LIFE SAVING DRUGS FOR DYING
               CHILDREN? THE ANSWER IS NO. THROUGH RESPECT FOR ANIMALS WILL COME RESPECT FOR
               OURSELVES. I DO NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE OR HATE AGAINST ANY INDIVIDUAL, BUT IF I HEAR THAT A
3/02/2006 1:45:49am
             Janet Lowe
             imahappyvegetarian@yahoo.com
             CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
             WE HAVE BEEN VEGETARIAN FOR YEARS AND WILL NEVER IN THIS LIFE TIME GO BACK TO EATING ANY



3/02/2006 0:26:26am
             Christina
             Sheltie091189@yahoo.com
             Philadelphia
             I can't believe the stupidity of animal rights activists. I am a believer in animal welfare, and I fully support animal research. I
             was shaking my head in disbelief after I read your FAQ section. Animal research has made a huge impact in health and
             technology. Were humans the first animals in space? Also, animal research does not benefit humans alone; many discoveries
             are applied to animal health. My teacher has told me that a cure for diabetes would occur in dogs before it would ever happen
             in humans. In addition, I am angry that "animal rights activists" protest the cruelty of experimentation on dogs and cats,
             which are thought to be the most common of the animals experimented on. In reality, rats and mice make up over ninety
             percent of the animals used in research. Finally, your illegal actions, referring to activists in general, are stupid and offensive.
             I have no problem with your protests and freedom of speech, but breaking the law crosses the line. I'm sure you've heard of



y 03/01/2006 5:32:13pm
              Corina Powell
              corina@earthisland.com
              Santa Barbara CA
              go to www.veganoutreach.org



y 03/01/2006 8:46:59am
              Nicholas J Davis
              N_J_Davis@Rogers.Com
              Toronto Ontario Canada
              The ALF Rules!

              Thank God for Commpassion such as this; We are so lucky to have the ALF.

              NJD



2/28/2006 8:45:19pm
              Chris

              Midlands - UK
              Within individual species the goal is to survive and reproduce. It is simply continuation of the species. Animals use and
              consume other life to survive. Most animals will fight to survive when forced to. So assuming most of the CURRENT
              reasons for animal testing are valid, shouldn't we use all means necessary to promote the survival of OUR species.
             ALF response: 1. Our species is not endangered. The danger, experts say, is that there are too many people. Your logic
             suggests that for our species' survival it would be natural to eliminate people. Your statement is logical, it is also the nature of

             2. Since our species is not endangered, perhaps you're not referring to "survival" but merely "bettering" our species. That is
             the same logic that Hitler used to exterminate deaf people, Jews, and others. Again, there is nothing illogical about doing

             Your assumption that animals are concerned about their species surviving is probably inaccurate. All animals, including man,
             have instincts for survival, but our "instincts" are not the basis for our morality, nor should they be. That is why laws have
             been passed. It's not relevant that it may be "natural" for me to take my neighbor's food even if I'm very hungry, because
             society has decided that it's not moral (again: morality is not logical, it's a choice). However, consistent logic can be used to



2/28/2006 2:54:35pm
              anon

             durham
             The reason you are not getting any rebutals to your evidence that animal testing doesn't work is because you have created a
             circular argument, scientists have provided evidence that it gives worthy and viable results, you have provided evidence that
             it doesn't, the only rebutal that can now be put forward to your evidence is 'go back and look at our evidence' which is the
             only response that can be given if someone critizes your evidence, as such the argument becomes, in essence, two people

             ALF response: While I don't believe animal testing is the best way to further science (and I have an advanced science
             degree), whether it does, or not, is irrelevant to the animal rights position that testing is morally wrong.

             Our position is that sentient beings that are close enough to humans to have tests done on them deserve to be left alone, and

             You may have a different opinion, but the logic that gets you to that conclusion is no better than the logic that says it's okay
             to torture any being that is weaker, if you want to (justifications not withstanding). Mankind has done this forever.

             anon: your comments about logic are a relation to YOUR point of view, and lead me to believe that your views are similarly
             dogmatic to those of the catholic church and other religious organisations, in so much that anyone else's point of view is

             ALF: Logic doesn't have any point of view. Our comments about logic are not to justify our position (stated above) but to
             point out the fallacies that people use to justify doing what they want. There is not a "logical" place to draw a moral line for
             assigning rights -- it has to be an opinion -- so logic is not involved. But logic is involved when people are not consistent with
             where they draw the line, or refuse to give a reason for where they draw it. Religions do not require any application of logic,
             only faith. Most AR opponents use the Bible as their only way to justify drawing the line for rights just below humans. Any

             anon: Though i sympathise with your views (though, i myself are pro-animal testing) i cannot possibly see how you can
             morally justify attacking humans over the issue, we live in a democratic society (or as close to one as we will get) and, as
             such, protesting about what you believe in is (quite rightly) possible and legal, history has also shown that it can alter public
             opinion and government policy. Thus attacking vivi-sectionists and scientists seems needless, violent, terrorism and a waste

             ALF: Our credo prohibits harming any sentient being physically, but doesn't preclude harassment. The debate about what
             direct action works best is ongoing and complicated. No simple answers are intelligent.

             anon: I support animal testing because i feel human lives are worth more than those of animals, as such it seems logical to
             use animals in experiments that may well help develop procedures and drugs that will help save lives, i see it as a necessary

             ALF: Your logic is based on the assumption that human lives are "worth" more than animals. There is no logical way to
               anon: Public opinion at the moment (as shown by most people's responces to the setting up of pro-test and SPEAK's
               rediculously immature responce) seems to be in favour of animal testing, i wonder if you take this as a sign of your own
               views being incorrect or that the majority of people have been brain-washed by the 'system', though i'm fairly sure what the

               ALF: I take the public's opinion as a sign that they haven't seen the ridiculous and pointless and cruel animal testing that I
               have seen. The vast majority of folks who have seen it are on our side.

               Ten years ago one person in a million would have been against testing on animals, now it's one in four. I don't suppose you
               take this trend as a sign the tide is turning?



2/28/2006 2:41:46pm
              Lindsey
              l_allison13@hotmail.com
              Australia
              Thankyou so much from Australia for all that you do. Without people like you in the world i would not want to live.. It gives
              me and so many others hope. I would love to join your group and would in a second.

               Like someone else said here, your job is not thankless, there are so many people following what you do and being
               continuously inspired and given courage to stand up for the animals by seeing what you beautiful people do.

               Karma is a bitch and i can't wait til these scum that test on animals get it back in the end.
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ay 02/27/2006 3:06:44pm
              Beth Sawyers
              dougsgirl63@yahoo.com
              Illinois in the USA
              I am saddened and sickend by all who use and abuse our animal brothers and sisters.I am working to stop horse slaughter.Do
              you have any info on this? I am about 3 matchsticks away from ending this horror myself as i live in Illinois where one of
              these slaughtering houses remain..Please if you have any info on this get in touch with me.Keep up the good work the
              animals are counting on you! There is no reason what so ever that we need to test on animals.They are nothing like us.God
              will wipe out the human race and give it back to the animals.We are the worst thing that he ever created.Men are led by
              greed,hate,selfishness and all the other evils.Man is ruled by the almighty dollar and stupidity!



y 02/26/2006 9:54:41pm
             Mike

              London
              I'm sure you would personally sign the death warrants of a thousand rats (the disease spreading vermin that occupy sewers) if
              there were a prospect of saving the life of someone close to you.

              ALF response: That hypothesis, and similar ones, are discussed in this interesting article:
              My Dog or Your Child? Ethical Dilemmas and the Hierarchy of Moral Value



y 02/26/2006 9:06:02pm
             Chris
             swinginghutch@hotmail.co.uk
             Midlands - UK
             Why do you believe that we should stop using animals to further medical science? There is no substitute to a biological
             system similar to a human being when testing drug reactions. No computer program can accurately reproduce drug
             interactions as it is computationally unachievable to describe biological reactions on a cellular scale. To gain a pragmatic
             understanding of a drug interaction you have to sacrifice process understanding, which results in an unrobust model that is
             unreliable and cannot predict a response to a high enough level of certainty. This means that you will not know how this drug
             will effect a person. Without further testing it is not posible to even think of achieving a good computer representation of a
             biological system. Testing on animals is needed to provide accurate validation and calibration data of a model! We should be
             thinking of the patients not the animals. It is a case of rational thinking over popularist thinking.

              ALF response: Please read these FAQs for our position: Testing FAQs



 02/24/2006 10:37:07pm
             Pepper
             Adalayadream@aol.com
             Myrtle Beach, SC come and get me bitchs!
             I really am desperatly looking for someonw to talk to who understands my desire and need to help animals. I..basically no
             one understands the passion I have. Please I would like to meet someone or talk to someone who also lives on this planet I
             seem to be on.
             ALF: Please join our discussion forum. You'll find it by clicking on the "Let's Talk" icon at the top of the page. It might take
             a few hours for approval, but you'll find kindred spirits there.



02/24/2006 9:58:35pm
            charlie
            peasonearth@hotmail.com
            oxford
            die all you scum, i hope you all die, and there is no cure for you, because u stopped the lab. Fucking scum. Get cancer and
            Die!!!!!!!!!!! Build the animal lab and kill the animals

             ALF response: A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on." - John F. Kennedy

             "Old hippies don't die, they just lie low until the laughter stops and their time comes round again." - Joseph Gallivan



02/24/2006 2:13:10pm
            Mr S Munro

             U.K.
             Mr. Munro: Why didn't you show the rest of my message? (read it all this time please):

             ALF: I apologize if my reason was not clear. I read the full post and knew that your questions were answered in the FAQs.
             Your questions were general, not specific. If the FAQs don't answer your questions to your satisfaction, then please address
             the reason.

             Mr. Munro: animal testing IS needed to test drugs that are used for the benefit of wildlife management, pets and humans

             ALF: Nobody has proved that. Dr. Coleman and others have issued specific challenges with rewards for any proof. People
             just repeat "testing is necessary" like a mantra. But when asked to prove it, they give examples with incorrect information or
             flawed logic (frequently employing the logical fallacy called a "false dilemma" where they assume that testing on animals is
             the only option to finding a solution, when in fact it is frequently not even the best option). Those examples and their
             rebuttals are on this web site. No rebuttals to the rebuttals have been forthcoming. We will welcome yours.

             Mr .Munro: Read this story about how canine distemper is wiping out lions http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3532524.stm
             Currently research is being done and animal tests being carried out for a cure for the Lion form of canine distemper

             ALF: By what logic can you sacrifice an unknown number of sentient beings for a POSSIBLE solution to others? If you had
             to do tests on humans to solve a problem, would you do them?

             Mr. Munro: (how do i know, you are probably thinking, it's because i am a wildlife conservationist and professional scientist
             who sees the bigger picture not just the sentimentalised fluffy rabbit)i also do my research and the so called information you
             have placed on your site is nothing more than unsubstantiated propaganda.

             ALF: We never question anyone's credentials because logic has to stand regardless of the presenter. Your generalizations
             about the information on the website are specious. Please be specific.

             Mr. Munro: I would rather that a few lab animals died than the entire lion population which is a distinct possibility within 10
             years. If you are telling me you would rather see an entire species wiped out to save a few individual animals then you are
             more narrow minded than i had already believed.
             ALF response: And where is your proof that testing a few animals will save an entire lion population? In logic, your
             argument is called a "Straw Man". You have proposed a hypothetical scenario that is different from the real one, and you
             expect that that somehow makes your point. I could turn it around, equally as absurdly, and say "If you are telling me you
             would rather not use superior means for testng because they are more expensive than torturing hundreds of thousands of
             dogs, than you are more cruel than I imagined." Don't answer. It's merely an example of the logical fallacy you used.

             Mr. Munro: If you delete or edit this in any way then you clearly have no regard for common sense and would happily pull
             the trigger on lions and other wildlife that BENEFITS from animal testing.

             ALF response: Thanks for concluding with a completely illogical statement. This time I'll let you find the logical
             fallacy: Logical Fallacies



 02/24/2006 11:52:32am
             Mr S Munro

             U.K.
             I haven't found a single convincing argument yet from any animal rights supporter whythey think animal testing is so bad

             ALF: stop right there! It's difficult to believe you've read anything, since this has been answered logically in the FAQs and in
             dozens of detailed articles. Feel free to debate specific facts or threads of logic, but repeating questions that have been
             answered countless times is an insult to those who have taken time to read the answers.



 02/24/2006 4:45:39am
             SHAUNA EYRE
             BUGGIRLLV@EARTHLINK.NET
             LAS VEGAS, NV
             ANIMALS WILL ALWAYS NEED TO BE "LIBERATED" AND YOU ARE THEIR ANGELS!!!!!!



day 02/23/2006 5:40:56pm
             Jay Leno, Host of the Tonight Show

             Los Angeles, California
             Dear ALF. I'm a suporter of the animal rights movment, but whats the scoop. Or should I say poop, lol, on your targets for
             this new year. I need new ideas for my show, and to poke fun at animal testing facilities in the U.S.A.

             Respectfully, Jay Leno

             ALF response: We have a "fun" section of our website with plenty of comedy. For your eyes only there is no charge.



esday 02/22/2006 8:59:19am
              pasoxxx
              hello from italy... i'm paso a 26 old aged guy vegan straightedge... i think this is the best web site on the net... animals need
              our compassion and support... stay vegan till death. yo.



ay 02/21/2006 4:37:13pm
             anonymous
             anonymous
             UK
             I am fully tolerant of the views that ALF promotes through its many activities, in my view many cases of animal testing are
             immoral and repulsive in a civilised society. But another thing which is much more repugnant in a "civilised" society is
             terrorism in the name of animal rights. I think it outrageous for an organisation such as ALF to threaten the students and
             other staff of Oxford University and it is this type of stereotyping which will unltimately destroy the legitimate arguments put
             forward by animal rights activists. How dare these people consider students as legitimate targets, I will be a student at Oxford
             next year and I am strongly against most animal testing. I therefore challenge ALF to CLEAN UP ITS ACT and put its
             excellent concerns into mainstream public opinion instead of being associated with destructive and absurd threats, and maybe
             in the future people like me will support you instead of seeing what ALF stands for as disgusting . After all, humans have

              ALF: Please separate all messages from their messengers (especially TV commercials featuring women with voluminous
              cleavage). The truth and logic will stand the test of time. The messengers are not relevant in the long run. I'm not saying it's
              easy to ignore the messengers, but it is very important.



ay 02/21/2006 2:53:42pm
             dk223


              "ALF: If an animal for which you cared for were being abused I'm sure you'd want somebody to raise a ruckus, and do more
              than just using words. The fact that you don't know personally the animals being abused so therefore don't care about them is
              considerably more cruel than someone tossing insults. If Dante's version of hell is correct, you will be several levels deeper
              than someone fighting for the lives of others.

              PS: Hopefully nobody in the ALF would buy an egg."

              That's a hell of an assumption to make about me, you don't know me or what my views on animals are.

              ALF: I assumed that you'd care about your pet. I stand corrected.

              dk223: And as for saying that I'm going to go to hell well yeah that's a little childish.

              ALF: Dante said it. I was merely pointing out his work. I apologize if the literary reference meant nothing to you.

              dk223: For all you know I might have had questions about the ALF and what they are doing becuase I wanted to become a
              member and wanted confrimation that your not as the press make you out.

              ALF: Anything is possible (except that anything is anything like the press makes it out to be).



ay 02/21/2006 2:18:27pm
             dk223
              I'll ask my question differently seeing as you ignored it.
              If you, or any other ALF member, were shouting abuse at an oxford uni student and throwing spitballs, or people that you
              were with were doing it, would it be ok if the student turned around and hurled abuse back and spat at you?

              ALF: Yes, of course.



ay 02/21/2006 1:52:36pm


              Manchester, UK
              I understand the ALF's Position on violent direct action but i cant see why we should give a shit about the rights of farmers,
              vivesectors and other murderers. So what if i went and poisoned one of them, why should they have rights after the
              disgusting things they have done and will continue to do. Fuck Them! Fight fire with fire, we cannit win if we are non-violent
              and they are, in that situation they will always win in the long run! P.S it would be good to have a ARM website you guys
              (and gals) should make one! Thanks

              ALF response: The problem with an Animal Liberation Militia website would be that it would violate the "terms of use"
              agreement of webhosts. By the way, the last I checked "animalrightsmilitia.com" was available.



ay 02/21/2006 1:46:08pm
             Caligula

              U.K
              While I am in sympathy with your views concerning any unnecessary cruelty to animals,I would ask this question. How many
              ALF supporters would be prepared to offer themselves up for scientific research in place of the animals they are so
              concerned about? As for the filthy language on the first entry! Do we really need to print this filth?

              ALF response: Because many respected doctors say the tests done on animals are worthless (please read the literature on this,
              and many many other websites), I doubt any sane activist would offer themselves to be tested. However, I'd always offer
              myself before I'd offer my pet or anyone else's pet -- and this is a belief shared by many activists.

              Regarding the language: I agree with you that it weakens arguments to use foul language is makes them less likely to be taken
              as seriously as would be a nice thread of logic.



ay 02/21/2006 2:01:44am
             The People
             monteith85@googlemail.com
             Birmingham/England
             Its all well just sitting here doing fuck all, we can all make a justification to our own pathetic lives and do something. Burn
             donw a KFc, smear fur coats in shops with paint. dont jsut sit there saying "yeah im going to give up meat" do something
             thats fucking productive that will get peoples attention. Fuck protests and pertitions, we need some genuine activism, hands

              The target should be the closest thing to us, animal "shelters"- "KFC", things local, riase an eye to these issues, get them
              noticed. Throw two fingers up at everything else and do something.
ay 02/20/2006 11:36:23pm
              Carecatt
              carecatt@hotmail.com
              Washington
              I whole-heartedly support the efforts of those who are trying to end animal abuse, exploitation, etc. I have to say that though I
              am concerned about the environment, I prioritize animal issues. I wish the majority of the world would stop thinking that
              animals have to have our permission to exist or have to fulfill some benefit of humankind to be worthy of living on this
              planet with us. I believe it really is the other way around!!!



ay 02/20/2006 7:51:30pm
              emily
              i do not have a e-mail
              london
              i love animals and think vivisection is very bad i feel sorry for the animals



ay 02/20/2006 3:41:04pm
              dk223


               So it's perfectly ok to verbally attack someone just for chosing to go to oxford uni. Sorry but that's weak. What right have you
               go to attack someone, verbally or otherwise just for going to a uni?

               Does that mean the students would be equally as jusitifed if they threw things back at members of the ALF? If they shouted
               abuse back?

               I thought the ALF was all about non-viloent methods? Throwing things, be it spitballs or eggs or whatever is quite violent
               isn't it? Verbal abuse is just as bad, if not worse than pyhsical abuse for some people.

               ALF: If an animal for which you cared for were being abused I'm sure you'd want somebody to raise a ruckus, and do more
               than just using words. The fact that you don't know personally the animals being abused so therefore don't care about them is
               considerably more cruel than someone tossing insults. If Dante's version of hell is correct, you will be several levels deeper
               than someone fighting for the lives of others.

               PS: Hopefully nobody in the ALF would buy an egg.



ay 02/20/2006 12:33:08am
              dk223


               This is taken from the Times online news section. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2030113,00.html

               "the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) recently announced that anyone associated with Oxford University, including students,
               was a legitimate target for attack."
              If that is true, then how do you justify saying that students are fair game in any attacks that may occur?

              ALF response: The threat is kind of vague. They may be referring to throwing spitballs or hurling insults. If they hurt anyone
              (physically) they could not legitimately call themselves members of theALF, and they would instead use the term "Animal
              Liberation Militia".

              Their reason fo targetting students would probably be that the student's tuition money, not any moral concerns, is all the
              administration cares about.



y 02/19/2006 7:27:33pm
             Miriam

              Brazil
              I eat soy products (soy milk and others), and I like it very much, it´s very delicious. I don´t need eat animal products and I´m
              very health!



y 02/19/2006 3:27:06pm
             Frances Takacs
             frendly@comcast.net
             Georgia
             I highly respect what your org. does for the animals. I follow your work with all my heart and soul. Yours is not a thankless
             job, there are many who depend on your actions, keep up the good work!



y 02/19/2006 2:46:23pm
             sarah muth
             tierschuetzerin1989@web.de
             tierschutz
             dear sir and madam,
             i´ve fióund this page in google. i´m from germany. i just want to say ilove you all for that that you do!!!!!
             Sarah Muth



ay 02/18/2006 8:19:33pm
             Toni Nesbitt
             tataylor@airmail.net
             Oakwood TX




02/17/2006 2:59:28pm
            Larissa
              I love the pictures there soo cute


 02/17/2006 1:54:08am
             j


              Someone on your forum was asking about this case of dumping animal bodies. Here is the update...
              update



day 02/16/2006 9:41:39am
             Dawn Sinclair
             aliviel27@yahoo.co.uk
             Scotland
             When I was a lot younger I remember reading a leaflet on vivisection. I am now 47 years old and looking through the anti
             vivisection sites I see that they are still doing the same horrible things to animals. Last night I couldn't stop crying.

              These animals are not there by choice and have to endure all the terrible things that are done to them. How can we progress
              spiritually if we do these things? We are supposed to know better and protect these animals. Do the people who do these
              things feel good about themselves? I believe that what goes around comes around and one day they will have to face what
              they have done. I must admit that that i admire those that actually go out and physically do something about it. I have to say
              that there is not enough publicity regarding vivisection etc. We need a lot, lot more publicity about this to change peoples
              attitude and to stop this.



esday 02/15/2006 5:53:54pm
              Frank
              none

              i ocasionally eat food with dairy product in em' but mostly eat vegan...i found it easy to become a veg. but find it hard to
              become a vegan! I do it for both health and moral reasons but now vegan is the way to go for me! :D i support you guys!

              ALF response: We appreciate every animal saved. Our sanity and your sanity depends on looking at the good we do, trying
              to do better, and not letting our imperfections drive us looney.



esday 02/15/2006 1:43:32pm
              FIONA
              FIONAYELLOW0@YAHOO.CO.UK
              SCOTLAND
              ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE IN SCOTLAND WHO WANT TO HELP BECOME ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH
              ANIMAL RIGHTS? THERE ARE MANY CHIKEN SHEDS NEAR WHERE I LIVE AND THE ANIMALS ARE BEING
              KEPT IN AWFUL CONDITIONS. I NEED TO BE ORGANISED AND I AM NOT ABLE TO DO THIS ON MY OWN.
              EMPLOYEES LIVE VERY CLOSE BY. GIVE ME A SHOUT.



ay 02/14/2006 6:11:56pm
              Frank
              none

              I have a question, would drinking or eating dairy products support the killing of animals? and if so in what way?

              ALF: Just like any other mammal, female cows will only produce milk when they are pregnant or have just had a baby. That
              means that the cows must be kept pregnant nearly all of the time so that they can keep producing milk. It is not natural for
              any animal to be constantly pregnant and it therefore causes a strain on her body.

              Scientists are also trying to make cows produce even more milk, making it even more of a strain. This can cause a painful
              condition on the cows udder called mastitis.

              Another problem caused by this industry is the excess calves that are produced. If a cow is always pregnant that means that
              she is constantly producing new calves. In the natural order of things, the cow's calf would drink her milk (eliminating her
              need to be milked by humans). But dairy cows' babies are taken away within a day or two of birth so that humans can have
              the milk nature intended for calves. When the calves are taken away from their mothers after only a few days, both the
              mother and the calf get very stressed - as would any mother whose baby has been taken from her. The calves are then usually
              taken to market to be killed for their meat.
              Female dairy calves may be slaughtered immediately or raised to be future dairy cows. Male dairy calves are confined for 16
              weeks in tiny veal crates too small for them even to turn around in.

              When the cows stop producing milk, they are killed.

              Economically, all money going to the dairy industry makes all of its products less expensive, which means more "units" are
              sold, which lowers the cost further -- this is a spiral favorable to more killing. Every dollar you withhold from the dairy
              industry makes their products less competitive with "Garden Burgers" and helps to end the killing.



ay 02/14/2006 11:16:03am
             Spange
             www.stopcox.de
             Germany
             fight for animal & Human rights,
             stay vegan!
             www.stopcox.de



ay 02/14/2006 8:16:10am
             monika
             earthchild@inmail24.com
             south africa
             firstly, thanx for doing what youre doing.
             secondly,thank you for being so patient with some of the people who have graced the guest book. instead of "losing" it with
             some of them, you have always maintained your cool,which in my eyes gives you alot of validity and logic.
             with that said i would like to know whether you have any contacts in south africa?

              ALF response: Thanks for caring about animals. We don't have any contacts in South Africa.
ay 02/14/2006 3:26:53am
             Hernán Quevedo
             virilio@hotmail.com
             Bogotá,Colombia
             May the Olympians be with you all. I wish you killings, vengance and blood, blood of the damned furriers, experimentators,
             circuses, zoos... I hate them all, I wish them death and pain, above all, pain.



ay 02/13/2006 1:34:08am
              Zohguy_Saiyajin
              http://zohguy.blogspot.com
              Brazil
              I hope all those persons who heard of Animal Liberation Front understand its importance and spread the word!



ay 02/11/2006 2:08:58am
             greggvl
             gregg29rock@yahoo.com
             gloucester city nj
             ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what the fuk is wrong with our society..i cant take it no more. How in the world is man the
             most intell. species on earth but we do the most dreaded things to animals and to each other.. I cant wait for the second
             coming, then jesus will set the record strait..(and when he comes that is when animals will finally live in piece next to
             man.)Im not a relig. nut but do believe in the bible it seems we who really cares just cant help enough, but we had made a
             difference...so i believe when we are at the gates they will already be open for us....sincerelly, gregg vl..



 02/10/2006 10:56:38pm
             brian

              West Texas
              How does ALF feel about PETA's slaughter of healthy homeless animals? Does ALF support NO Kill shelters?

              http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm

              ALF: This question would take pages to answer with all the exceptions, and it is better answered in the discussion forum. But
              I'll give you a quick, general opinion.

              First, our focus is not on other AR orgs. I have no data on PETA, what they have done officially or what their employees
              have done unofficially. We don't have time to keep an eye on them. Watching other AR groups is pretty low on our list of

              We support no-kill shelters, although most of them remain no kill by turning away animals.

              Millions of animals die because no one wants them and there is not enough money to feed them. Euthanasia of a person or
              animal, should always be based on a judgment that their suffering would be intolerable. We haven't yet met anyone who was
              faced with this horrible decision who made a hasty decision.
             Conclusion: Euthanasia is sometimes a lesser evil. No-kill shelters can avoid this only by turning away animals, which isn't
             always the compassionate thing to do. Othe AR orgs are a non-issue to us due to priorities. Our priorities focus on the most
             egregious instances of animal abuse, and, although others talk about the abuses at zoos, circuses, etc that we don't gather data
             on because they we don't have the manpower to do anything about -- no matter how much people pressure us to care about
             THEIR least favorite abuse.



 02/10/2006 3:30:46pm
             meg

             winnipeg
             big fan here! i love your music and think its great that you guys are singing for those who cant tell us their pain. please keep
             going in the music buissness and also supporting the animal in Peta.



 02/10/2006 12:20:10am
             anon


             The information on this website that you claim to back up your beliefs, is confused, misleading and often in contradiction to
             your extreme statements. For example your "article" on human microdosing as an alternative clearly states that it cannot
             completely replace animal testing, and gives no information on the effiacy of the technique, and the legitimacy of
             extrapolating to high dosage, it infact says toxic effects often only reveal themselves at very high dosage. Its no wonder
             people still have questions they feel are unanswered by your site when the information on it does little to justify your

             ALF response: You've made a good point. The animal rights position (please read the FAQs) is that NO killing of a sentient
             being for an uncertain benefit is acceptable. The presentation of alternatives is for the animal welfare folks, not for the animal
             rights folks. Sometimes on our website those two positions are left up to the reader to discern. Only a few folks have ever
             commented that this was confusing. We'll make the distinction more clear when we have time.



day 02/09/2006 11:35:05pm
             anon


             I'm not entirely sure how genuine you are in your desire to persuade people of the legitimacy of your cause, when you
             ignore/delete their questions if you feel you have given a satisfactory answer yet they don't

             ALF response: And how many times would you suggest we repeat ourselves to sound "genuine"? We actually know the
             answer to that. In 15 years we've learned to distinguish between inquirers who want to learn, those who want to tell us
             something, those who are "always right" and just want to argue, and those, like the kid continuously asking "why?" to every
             answer, just want attention. We treat them differently because our time is valuable. We're NOT a public relations arm of the

             We know beyond a reasonable doubt that folks who want to learn don't rely on guestbooks. All information of interest to
             ALF over the past 15 years is on our site. It has a convenient search engine. If something is not there, then nobody (ALF,
             ARAs, or others) has thought it to be worth posting.

             If something needs detailed clarification we have a discussion forum with a section for formal debate.
             We should probably delete sidebars. It probably confuses people when we answer questions about Hitler, abortion, other AR
             groups, politicians, religion, and all manner of topics that may be interesting to ARAs, but are outside the credo and mission
             statement of the ALF.

             This website was never created to educate the public. If it was, we'd probably advertise or participate in banner exchanges or
             whatever websites do to draw traffic. It was established only to store information of interest to us. That's all, folks.



day 02/09/2006 6:32:19pm
             Paul, edited

             UK
             Your questions were deleted because you have asked them already and we've given "our final answer". You claim that we
             don't like to answer questions. Now we're in perfect harmony. You don't like to listen to what we say.



day 02/09/2006 5:29:49pm
             gigi

             austria
             its so wonderfull to see how much people can do for animals. if there would be more people like you........

             love you all, gigi



day 02/09/2006 3:15:52pm
             Paul

             UK
             I want you to clarify "us/we" are "us/we" the ALF? Or is it just the people who edit the web site who like to add a little
             mystery by the clever use of words?

             ALF: The ALF website, guestbook, and discussion forum are edited by 9 webmasters who were entrusted with that task by a
             lady (Virginia) who died several years ago. All 9+ of us have the password, and some may have given it to others whom were
             trusted (I don't know). None of the other webmasters know who I am, nor do I know who they are. We don't consider it even
             slightly relevant to the logic of the ALF or AR philosophies. In fact, all logic has to stand on its own, regardless of who is
             presenting it. Comments in this guestbook, etc may be written by any of us. Call that a mystery if it pleases you.

             Paul: I find this site misleading. You are giving people the impression that it is ok to kill animals because you interpret a dog
             in a pound/kennels as suffering.

             ALF: I can't find anything on this website that suggests that. To the contrary, since we rescue animals and place them in no-
             kill shelters, and since we list no-kill shelters on our website, that should give the impression we support them (which we do),
             and not that we think animals suffer there. If you arguing based on extreme examples, and not based on the mainstream
             ideology, this would be the logical fallacy known as a "straw man." The primary purpose of employing straw man logic is to
             inflame, not to produce a compelling thread of logic. Such arguments, with both sides arguing extremes, produce more heat

             Paul: You are making a choice of life and death when you have no right to do that. Better for an animal to spend some time
             in a well managed kennel than to die. Yes it is not all good in kennels so fight to improve them.
             All life has the right to live and we do not have the right to choose if an animal lives or dies.

             ALF: Unfortunately, NOT making a choice may be making a choice. Activists in the trenches face this every day: animals
             WILL die, and the only question is how and when. In such instances, philosophy and generalizations do not apply. In fact, we
             state in our guidelines that one should never use generalization when specific data is available.

             Paul: I would debate in your forum but please tell me your forum username because I want to debate with the "us/we" who
             run this site.

             ALF: I don't have a user name, and I can't speak for whether the board administrator or a moderator will debate.

             Paul: Tell me do you justify the ALFs use of arson?

             ALF: I apologize, but my patience has run out with answering questions that have answered repeatedly, and in detail. If you
             don't accept the published answers, then state so and specifically why. But if you ignore them, then it's fair for me to ignore
             your repeating of them.



day 02/09/2006 12:19:06am
             Paul

             UK
             "The ALF's short-term aim is to save as many animals as possible and directly disrupt the practice of animal abuse. Their
             long term aim is to end all animal suffering by forcing animal abuse companies out of business."

             1. TO liberate animals from places of abuse, i.e. laboratories, factory farms, fur farms, etc, and place them in good homes
             where they may live out their natural lives, free from suffering.

             4. TO take all necessary precautions against harming any animal, human and non-human.

             Why will you not speak out against PETA when they are killing animals each year in large numbers?

             ALF response: Our goal is simply to save animals, even human, from unnecessary suffering. Compelling arguments can be
             made that euthanasia for animals, even human, achieves this goal. Therefore, it is not logical to make a blanket condemnation
             of euthanasia.

             Worldwide, there are more dogs, cats, and parrots than there are marginally accepable guardians.

             So what happens to these animals? Please see this webpage for some examples:

             Mean Streets

             The question you MAY be asking is: Is any life, regardless of the suffering involved, worth living? Should any animal, even
             human, be euthanized? Frankly, we don't liberate animals unless no-kill shelters have space.

             If you feel you can make a case for or against euthanasia, please join our discussion forum. There is a proposed debate on
             this subject. One longtime member, "Cheeseburger in Paradise" has generously agreed to debate either side of this topic.
              Paul: Animal liberation front .com And when you reply to this you go under ALF. Lets not beat about the bush, this web site
              is self appointed and you put yourself forward as the voice of the ALF. We know their is no leadership (some understand
              more than you think) so why do you put yourselves accross in the manner you do?

              ALF: Whether we say we are the voice of ALF, or not, will not make it true. I can only tell you what we (and those we know)
              believe. You are free to disagree, but it is not worth debating.

              The fact is that, whether we agree or disagree with the actions of other animal rights or animal welfare groups, we have
              greater priorities than working against them. We obviously don't appreciate groups like HSUS (and many more) who
              publically denounce the ALF's actions, but we still appreciate the work they do, and we'll never be against them.

              So, inclusion, whether we said we hate PETA or love PETA won't change our immediate goals. They're not relevant to us,
              even if, in your opinion, they should be.



day 02/09/2006 3:30:16am
             Lannie Wade
             sham69_75@sbcglobal.net
             St.John, Indiana




day 02/09/2006 3:09:28am
             Star Light Kitten
             mommy_of_tristen@hotmail.com
             Ohio
             Props for destroying animal research labs, at least the animals didn't have to suffer any longer. Keep up the good work.



esday 02/08/2006 11:54:11pm
              Paul

              UK
              PETA euthanise animals. And I understand that you and this web site are the self appointed voice of the ALF.

              ALF response: Your understanding that we are the self-appointed voice of the ALF is wildly incorrect.
              We state at every opportunity to everyone who asks that the ALF has no leaders, and all we can do here -- just as you can do -
              - is interpret the ALF credo and mission statement and then make judgment calls regarding whether any proposed ideas or
              corollaries meet the guidelines. We speak for the ALF only when we give facts about the ALF or its published philosophies.

              Paul: So tell me what your opinions are on PETAs policy of euthanasia?

              According to ALF credo you would be a hypocrite if you supported the killing of healthy animals. Would that be correct?

              ALF response: I can't find a logical connection between the ALF credo or mission statement and a position on euthanasia.
              There may be some assumptions that one could make, and a thread of logic that could then be followed and presented as a
              persuasive argument (but it still wouldn't be an official ALF position).

              Interestingly, euthanasia is not discussed in the FAQs, either.
              By the way, an inconsistent philosophy is not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy (a frequently misused word) means to deliberately give a
              false impression (verbally or with actions). It's not hypocritical, for example, to claim I like all animals except cats. It's
              hypocrisy to claim I like all animals and then beat a cat. And hypocrisy, since it involves interpretation, depends on what the
              interpreter assumes words and actions mean.

              Paul: Please answer without skirting around the question.

              ALF: Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer yes or no!

              The only honest answer to your question is this: The ALF has no official position on euthanasia. Opinions of members
              regarding euthanasia may vary, and still be consistent with the ALF credo and guidelines.

              If you visit our discussion forum you will find discussion on this, and other controversial topics. The discussio forum search
              engine is useful for finding specific topics.



esday 02/08/2006 9:07:48pm
              Noel Bramley
              not given
              Kent
              Use your time wisely and support your families and leave things well alone. Your violence is nauseating.

              ALF response: If we thought things were well, we would leave them alone. So we disagree. But, or course, you already knew

              In fact, we'd be happy to stay home and read, but once you've seen what some of the assholes are doing to animals, it's as
              hard for us to stay home as it would be for you to stay inside if your neighbor was filleting your dog in the back yard.



esday 02/08/2006 11:41:46am
              Paul

              UK
              What are the ALFs view on PETAs kill policy?

              ALF response: If you understand our organization, you know that we don't have leaders, and therefore the ALF's official
              opinions are limited to the ALF's original credo and mission statement. Even the AR FAQs are not necessarily the official
              opinions of the ALF, although most people I know agree with them. You, Paul, have as much of a right to interpret
              corollaries to those original documents as do I, or anyone.

              So, while I can't speak for the ALF officially, I can always answer personally:

              I haven't read any of the official platforms or policies of any groups, AR or anti-AR. There is no return on investment of my
              time to analyze what other groups are doing. What is PETA's kill policy? I don't know. But, as a service to our website
              readers, if someone writes about it, I'll publish it.



esday 02/08/2006 0:28:47am
              Heather
            Washington
            I had a question regarding a recent ALF message board response:

            "There are ALF members and ARAs in China. The animal rights movement in these locations is well behind the movement
            in Europe, but it is growing faster (due to technology, PETA, and a more clear path)."

            It's good to hear there are ALF members in China. Are they doing anything there to protest the cat and dog fur trade? I hope
            they can help to close these factories.

            ALF: Yes, they are. Their pressure has been noticed and the factories know that ARAs are tenacious. Some factories are
            already better than they were. Some have claimed that the images shown to the rest of the world are "bad examples" and they
            are trying to prove this is true.



ay 02/07/2006 8:16:25pm
             Tim


            all your explantions of why animal tests are unreliable and untrustworthy is lovely, and yes stuff that doesn't kill some
            animals can still kill humans. But can you please stop beating around the bush and present an alterantive, aside form using
            humans. coz funnily enough stuff that kills animals also kills humans and I would rather an animal took the bullet than

            ALF response: Lists of alternatives are on our website (and many other websites).

            You are not unique in your sentiment. Every being on the planet would rather have a being they didn't know (or even a
            million of them) die before just one they knew died. The obvious problem with that is that the ones dieing, and the ones who
            know the ones dieing, have the same sentiment. Everyone would like the world to center on their needs, and what's best for
            them. Enjoy the conflict.

ay 02/07/2006 4:02:13pm
             Kassy J
             JOHNSOKL@student.chipfalls.k12.wi.us

            I think your site is really cool but i think it would be more informational if you had stuff about the number of members you
            guys have, the annual budget or income, and what state your group was formed.

            ALF response: This page will link you to the ALF's very short credo
            The ALF

            Here are short answers to your questions:

            ALF's known membership: 0 (except prisoners)

            ALF's known budget: 0

            ALF originated in the United Kingdom, and now is both everywhere (generally) and nowhere (specific).



ay 02/07/2006 10:29:26am
             David

             Oxford, UK
             I have another question: recently I heard the claim that the research in Oxford which the ALF is currently protesting is going
             to be done somewhere regardless of whether the lab is shut down or not, and that should this lab ever get shut down the
             research will be moved to Eastern Europe or South-East Asia.
             I light of this, I wanted to know what the ALF's opinions are on research and animal welfare conditions in countries in those
             regions, because I can find very few helpful sources online.
             Thanks for your time.

             ALF response: I live in Singapore. Another ALF webmaster lives in Korea. There are ALF members and ARAs in China.
             The animal rights movement in these locations is well behind the movement in Europe, but it is growing faster (due to
             technology, PETA, and a more clear path).



ay 02/06/2006 5:26:02pm
              kathryn palmer
              joey@sover.net
              putney, vermont
              long live the alf and FREEDOM to ALL animals.



ay 02/06/2006 3:07:07pm
              anonymous


             your very unclear on the question of where you draw the line, you say all "sentient beings" deserve rights and not to be
             treated as property. sentient animals are defined as having concious sense perception, but no one really knows what
             "conciousness" is. Fruit flies have been shown to have a kind of conciousness in that they can concentrate on certain stimuli.
             Even bacteria can sense the world around them and try to swim away from an unpleasant environment. I repeat the question
             where do you draw the line??

             ALF response: We're VERY clear that there is NO absolute line. If you won't read the answers to your own questions, I will
             assume your questions are rhetorical.

             It's probably no surprise to anyone that nobody who helps dogs and cats has ever asked where a line should be drawn for
             sentience. Every ARA is helping animals they believe are sentient. The only folks who want a definite line drawn are those
             looking for an excuse to do nothing to help anyone outside their immediate family (if that).

             If you wanted to help any sentient beings you wouldn't be concerned about which ones you shouldn't help.

             Something tells me you just want to waste our time.



ay 02/06/2006 9:50:35am
              Lisa

             Far from Alabama
             I'm sorry I just have to ask this: does the poster below, Jim Taylor of Alabama really not believe in evolution?? How
            And did he really quote the bible as fact?? It just cracks me up how delusional some people are. He gives America and
            especially the South a BAD name.

            ALF: Sadly, there are a lot of folks who use the Bible to justify whatever they want to do. We've learned that this particular
            group of people won't change their minds by presenting them with logic, because logic is trumped by "God's word". Heaven
            forbid you anyone mention to these folks that there are multiple interpretations of the Bible by religious scholars, including
            Bishops and Cardinals.



ay 02/06/2006 0:06:32am
              anonymous

            reality
            Simple question number 1: do you think animals should have the same rights as humans? yes or no?

             ALF response: No, and that's answered clearly in this short powerpoint presentation AR Defined

            anonymous: question number two: where do you draw the line on animal rights? Should a jelly fish have the same rights as a
            monkey? what kind of rights do bacteria have? your killing them inside you all the time, if you didn't you'd die.

            ALF response: In our short credo we state that our belief is that sentient animals (not bacteria) have only one right: the right
            not to be treated as property. The presentation and the FAQs answer the question about bacteria.

            anonymous: question number 3: do you actually know anything about these "alternative methods" and how they work?

            ALF: yes, I've used them.

            anonymous: do please enlighten everyone how you would go about finding out if a possible drug would kill you or not?

             ALF: There is no guaranteed way. Penicillin is a miracle drug for some, and kills others. You can't learn it from
             testing on any animals. So drugs have to be tested on thousands of humans to draw conclusions. Unfortunately,
             the same poor scientific methods used on lab animals are used for the tests on humans, so deadly drugs get
             released anyway. Like it or not, you are the guinea pig. Read We are the guinea pigs After doing worthless tests
             on animals rather than tests on human volunteers, the companies then sell products to millions of unsuspecting
             people. Vioxx is the latest example. Then you have to sue them, although this doesn't bring back your loved one.
             And they have better lawyers than you do, lawyers who might win because dead men are poor witnesses. You'd



y 02/05/2006 6:33:25pm
             Annoyed of Accrington

            Lancashire
            would all the "intelligent" oxford students please either fuck off or learn a few things about animal testing before they state
            false bullshit, have some compassion you morons! I would have liked to go to oxford (in the future if they had not built a
            death camp) but if these "spokespersons" are anything to go by what a bunch of idiots! Oh btw keep up the fight and spit on
            the bad oxford scum (he he)
             ALF response: We hope that nobody decides whether or not to stop torturing animals based on the emotional confrontations
             on campus, or on the actions of any individual or group's behavior. The decision should be made on data and logic. Lives are
             much too important to let anger affect your decision.



y 02/05/2006 3:34:54pm
             Student

             Oxford
             One aspect of closing the lab I am curious about is that if you are successful and the building is used for another purpose
             (you cannot possibly leave the concrete mass as it is) and that you are successful in closing all such facilities, how will new
             drugs be developed? I am well aware there are other methods of testing, but the medical boards in this country will not
             accept a drug without rigorous testing and if in their view that includes testing on animals, how can this happen? Until there
             are methods to test potential drugs that satisfy the license requirements there have to be such facilities.

             ALF: If enough labs are closed because people realize their folly and change laws, that will make a difference. Or, if
             protestors make it more expensive for labs to test on animals than to use humane methods, then industries will petition to
             allow the humane methods. They don't force change now because they can get government approval (even if the methods are
             sound, and a few people die) by testing on animals. It's all about money. This is from the coalition for medical progress
             website – www.medicalprogress.org "About 40 per cent of all procedures used some form of anaesthesia to alleviate the
             severity of the interventions. For many of the remaining procedures the use of anaesthesia would have increased the animal
             welfare cost of the procedure."

             Student: Perhaps it would be better for you to research alternative methods and present them to the licensers, to give a viable
             oppertunity for the researchers to carry out vital work.

             ALF: They are aware of the alternatives. They don't use them because they are more expensive, animals have no value to
             them, and their obligation is to stockholders.

             Student: I agree with you that testing animals is not ideal but it seems your methods of pushing for change are destructive (I
             am not talking about the rogue element that think burning down university property is clever) in that nothing positive comes
             of them.

             ALF: If the only thing it does is add to the cost of testing on animals, it's valuable.

             Student: I am getting quite fed up of being called scum most mornings and seeing the workmen being called far worse things
             than that.

             ALF: We get called names, too. But that is nothing compared to the lifetime torture the animals endure. Our souls won't let
             us take the easy route, and play cricket and watch TV and drink ale, just so that we don't get called names. More than that,
             we'd risk our own lives.



y 02/05/2006 12:27:19am
             Billy Vandal

             UK
Although you may classified my first question as an “as hominem” is it a valid question in which the answer was seemed to
be side-stepped. If some ALF supporters (not members because there is no membership) like to attack suppliers of places
which do animal testing, ie pet food supplies, vets etc or services that are meant to improve or reduce the conditions that
these animals have to but up with, then it is only logical that the question has to be asked. If such supplies of just places are
valid targets then it is deemed that they are just as guilty of the acts that happen in these places then your webmaster is just as
guilty as promoting animal testing in there eyes. If that is not the case then it animal testing is valid up to a point if used
wisely and that ones validation in one eye may not be the same for another person given on the data he or she reads and ones

ALF response: 1.) There is a gap in your logic from "who should be a target", to "testing is valid". They are separate threads
of logic. Your jump may be based on the assumption that the ALF targets all estabishments doing animal testing, and does
not target any establisment that does not do animal testing. Whether that's true or not, the logic is separate. It is fair and
logical to ask why certain targets are selected and not others. We can't answer that.

2.) You lump "spies" in with those whom the spies are spying on. Obviously, we won't explain further, no matter how often
you push for more information. The terms "spy" or "undercover informant" are appropriate to describe the actions of two
(perhaps three) of our nine webmasters (yes, we've recently added one webmaster). Also, for your entertainment only, I tell
you that some spies have been mistakenly insulted by ARAs. And one is still angry about it.

Billy: You have said that “A lot of great drugs were first developed on animals” – This is true and that animal testing wasn't
necessary for the discovery! With hindsight you can say that this is the case, but this does not make the experiments in
question invalid.

ALF response: "Valid" is different from "necessary". They were not necessary. For example, often the vivisectors had pre-
determined the results before doing the tests. The animals lives had less value than did "completing the paperwork and
getting paid". A scientifically valid experiment may be completely unnecessary.

Billy: If a drug that is safe on an animal, is safe on a human as well this does not meant that the experiment on the animal was
scientifically invalid, although may be morally wrong but only if you have morals. Even if in one species it causes harm and
not another then it does not mean that it is scientifically invalid, all that means is that the experiment causes harm due to the
test subject for a reason that the experimenter may or may not know. For a lose example a fish can live in water, but a human
without breathing equipment can’t. A simple answer would be due to genetic differences but this is too simplified and can be
misleading, a little more advance answer would be along the lines of that the fish has gills that can absorb oxygen from the
water while a human has lungs that needs air as a media. But sticking a fish and a human with out breathing equiment will
result in differne results.

ALF response: We are in agreement, although your statement "but only if you have morals" skips over an important point.
Much of the testing is/was valid, but of no value. Some of it wasn't even valid. If you read the articles to which I have linked
in previous posts below, you will see the details of the folly on a case-by-case basis. Add to this the fact that we are refuting
the vivisection industry's "success stories", not listing the millions of failures. With this information you will grasp the scope
of the crime. If scientists believe their testing is worthy of torture, shouldn't they be willing to let the public decide? Or a
panel of impartial experts? I haven't read any studies done by someone who knew the first thing about Response Surface
Methodology or how to design a proper experiment. NOT ONE, in well over a thousand random studies. I have stated this
clearly and loudly for a decade. If someone wants to send me a properly done experiment, I'll ammend my statement.

Billy: That people seem to forget that although there have been advantages in science we still can not predict how a new drug
will perform in a host. Many drug discoveries as you have said have been hindered by the development of animal testing why
is this, is it because the animal models showed harmful effects. Now I may not now much about animal models but if
something new and unknown is shown to be harmful to an animal (i.e death) and you can’t reason why it happens, it only
logically and scientifically wise to cautiously proceed if you want to test it on humans. In the reverse case of then its seems
safe on an animal model and not in a human then there has to be a reason for it. Any attempts to say that the animal
experiment is valid for the human model without testing it on a human is just bad science.
              ALF: Since you used the term "bad science", here is an article on that subject: Bad Science

              Billy: The only way it becomes scientifically invalid is then you then you forge results or find other models that give you
              better results, without using human models, and with out trying to find out why a drug reacts in the way it does to the cause
              failure in the host. If this causes discoveries to take longer then that is that good research is all about and has nothing to do
              with making animal experiments valid or invalid.

              At the end of the day if companies are paying companies to like HLS to make models that are favourable without then testing
              using human models then that is just bad science and does not make the experiment on animals invalid or valid. The only
              question there is, is if it is moral or unmoral in your eyes if the science is scientifically valid and proofed.

              ALF response: I'll concede that I am not trying to claim that scientists couldn't torture a million monkeys and find a cure for
              male pattern baldness. Many vivisectors will say that any benefit to mankind is worth any suffering of any amount of animals.
              So this is not a disagreement about the possibility of whether testing on animals could produce knowledge. It might (and so
              might turning in circles and rubbing your belly). But, just as I would not let painful tests be done on my pet, even if they
              cured a cancer that I had, I can't condone these tests being done on any sentient being.

              To help you understand our position (but not to necessarily agree with the following assumption), if you substitute "child" for
              "monkey" in any of the proposals for animal testng you will understand the viewpoint of animal rights activists. That DOES
              NOT mean that ARAs believe human children are the same as monkeys, but that ARAs don't see the gap between them as
              being so great that we can torture monkeys.



y 02/05/2006 7:29:29am
             A normal person


              It's nice to see that is a healthy discourse on this site. It's quite obvious who the deluded fanatics are.

              ALF response: Shirley, you don't mean us?



y 02/05/2006 1:15:12am
             Ray P.
             pallinstew@sbcglobal.net
             Pampa, Texas
             I have read the comments from the Oxford students posted in your guestbook. Oh, my God! As we know, along with your
             excellent responses to their comments, there is an abundance of research which counters - with ease - the poorly considered
             arguments of these people. If they are sincere in their expressed convictions, then they should be expected to legitimize both
             their sincerety and those convictions. They should boldly access the voluminous results of the research which counters their
             arguments. Then, with scholarly diligence, they can proceed to do what the apologists for scientific animal abuse do so well.
             They can dissect their findings out of the necessity required to engineer a false justification of their convictions. What a
             waste and shame that these students are willing to base their sincerity on such hypocrisy! Any person with the competence to
             compete in the rigorous intellectual environment of Oxford University should be willing and able to substantiate a claim with
             an honest submission of facts. Evidently, these students who accept the useless pursuit of using animals as research victims
             are willing to subvert, even sabotage, the honorable pursuit of knowledge. This is to be expected from people who rebuke the

              ALF response: Thanks for writing to us. When I think back, I recall that I was as skeptical as many of the students. Hopefully
              they will search for, and find, the truth.
ay 02/04/2006 3:33:32pm
             An non-scientist Oxford student

             Oxford
             When attempting to get to Cornmarket St not long ago, I was called 'scum' and other such niceties, purely for the heinous
             crime of wearing an 'Oxford University' jumper. I have nothing whatsoever to do with the animal lab, and before all this fuss
             was made I would have probably edged towards the anti-lab side. Now, however, that I have seen and heard about the
             extremes people will go to for your cause, I am firmly on the side of the University and its innocent students. Surely you can
             see that this isn't going to achieve anything? The University has more than enough resources and support to come out on top

             ALF response: Certainly name calling won't help. Regarding the effort of fighting tanks with pillows, you are correct. We're
             fighting the meat an dairy industry, too. They want us quiet. But 20 years ago things were much worse for animals. Laws are
             changing. And it wasn't the same old voices that got the message to the masses. Whether the lab is shut down or not,
             thousands more people will at least realize there is an issue involved that they never thought about. Eventually they'll do the
             research and decide for themselves. Maybe years from now. That's all we ask.



ay 02/04/2006 2:31:51pm
             anon

             oxford
             yes people torture animals fro money... oh wait, why??? who pays them to intentionally torture animals? the "lets cause pain
             and harm to animals front"? that blatantly doesn't make economic sense , animals are expensive to breed, feed look after
             humanely etc. And its not like academics are short of projects so decide one day "oo lets go hurt some animals" I'm sure
             anyone working on animals would be much happier to use test tubes if they gave the right answers, they don't run away or
             bite for starters. But no according to you theres a global conspiracy to harm animals... The only conspiracy are those
             perpetuated by terrorists like some of your number, to cause harm to the property and lives of those who think theyre trying
             to make the world a better place. Even if you think theyre wrong that still doesn't make them evil.

             ALF response: You ask a good question -- why do folks do tests. There are several good explanations. Here's
             one article: Why is testing required?

             Here's another: Why does vivisection continue?



ay 02/04/2006 2:19:19pm
             Another student (again)

             Oxford
             Ok can you actually give links that send people to the actual webpages you get this information from as opposed to your
             website where your present it in a very misleading and dubious format, as far as anyone reading it is concerned it could be
             completely ficticious propaganda.

             ALF response: We agree that anyone interested in this topic should check facts and not rely on our data. We didn't trust any
             data before verifying it. Could it be bogus. Sure. That's why we guarantee we'll publish any rebuttals to any article. In 20
             years, we've recieved only a few, and they are there.
             Student: Yes animals aren't perfect models for humans but there aren't really any alternatives if you want to thouroughly test
             a drug. Yes you can do in vitro bio assays in place of some animal testing but theyre not accurate enough and don't account
             for complex tissue communication and development only observable in whole organisms, they can't even come close to
             replacing animals. Tighter control in terms of what experiments are neccessary is fair enough, but your arguement that animal
             testing is completely defunct is totally ridiculous.

             ALF response: Excuse the grammar lesson, but defunct means they don't exist and if we thought that, we'd be happy. What
             we know is that they are misleading and morally wrong.



ay 02/04/2006 11:56:34am
             Another student

             Oxford
             "When Challenged, Vivisectors Couldn't Name One Patient Whose Life Had Been Saved By Animal Experiments-- Proof
             that animal experiments don't save lives"

             Your powers of delusion really know no bounds, of course animal testing has saved lives, both directly and indirectly, sure
             you may have difficulty picking a single example as there are so many, and navigating all the academic literature can be
             confusing. Heres the first example I picked entirely at random from the NCBI academic database by searching antibiotic
             animal trials;
             http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10747826&query_hl

             What it basically shows is that the Ceftriaxone antibiotic is the most effective at curing this strain of pneumonia
             (pneumococcus), so doctors will know what to treat a person who gets infected.
             This sort of research happens everywhere and all the time, how else are you going to find a treatment for MRSA?? or cancer?
             deliberately infect hundreds of humans with the disease then give them all potentially life saving/ potentially lethal chemicals
             and see how many die of the disease, and how many die of the wrong chemicals. And if you have one or two left which were
             treated with the right drug.
             Stop getting in the way of saving lives and campaign for something thats going to help save them. Like cheap off patent
             drugs for countires that cant afford them!

             ALF response: Please read: Animal Tests False and Animal Tests Don't work and
             Animal Testing Myths

             We agree with you that drugs tested on animals have saved lives. But it was not because they were tested on animals -- that
             was simply a requirement so they did it. If it had been a requirement that all drugs had to have been poured into someone's
             shoe, people could make the claim that life-saving drugs were made after pouring them into a shoe. In many cases, pouring
             that would have been less misleading than testing them on animals. Today, we know that testing on animals isn't necessary.
             That's the opinion of thousands of highly educated doctors with no money to gain by taking that stance. Why would they
             make that claim if it could be simply proved otherwise? Why would you dismiss them? They aren't all dillusional. Most
             haven't been in the same country, much less drank from the same tainted cup.

             Wouldn't you at least want to ask the vivisectors to explain the logic behind any proposed tests BEFORE they do them? They
             don't want to do that, because often the tests are duplicates of tests already done, or the results are easily predicted in
             advance, or the results are for academic curiosity.



ay 02/04/2006 7:35:49am
             Billy Vandal
            UK
            How can you be against one form of animal experimentation when one of your webmasters works for an animal testing
            company (although non destructive), which in the past you have quoted us as what seems has a permanent position and not
            for undercover reasons. If you say all animal testing is useless then why on earth is she or he working for such a company
            because then it would seem that animal experiments are valid up to a point?

            ALF response: You should read and understand the real reasons behind animal experiments (money). Those reasons have
            nothing to do with whom may be working for whom. Once again: Attacking the messenger is a logical fallacy called an ad
            hominem. If everyone working for the ALF was an avid hunter, a meat-eater, dressed in fur, and worked for HLS, it would
            not make animal testing effective.

            Billy: As far as I know I don’t know anyone who has been cured using animal tested products but then again I don’t know
            anyone who has been cured using non animal tested products, this is simplify because I’m not a doctor and I do not know that
            drugs have or have not been tested on an animal. Do these animal experiment arguments only apply to drugs or medical
            produces that have firstly been use with success on animals and then usefully tried on humans such as transplants and other
            non drug related life saving treatments?

            ALF: We agree that it is confusing. Following is the true statement that drug companies make that APPEARS to make it
            sound as if animal testing is valid. See if you can find the flaw in the logic.

            1. A lot of great drugs were first developed by tested them on animals.

            This is true.

            What they don't tell you is that the animal testing wasn't necessary for the discovery. That animal testing is even less
            necessary now than it was in the past. And that animal testing, in many cases, actually hindered the development.

            So why did they do the testing? They got paid to do it, and it helped get their drug to the public faster (Vioxx, and many
            others) at a real risk to YOU.

            There are many articles on our website that document all this. They have not been refuted.



ay 02/04/2006 1:24:58am
             David

            Oxford, UK
            Thank you for your answers to my earlier comments. It explains a great deal about the mindset of the ALF and the reasons
            you do the things you do. I have one further question:
            What is the ALF's reaction to the upcoming "Pro-Test" protests that are currently gaining major support within OU's student
            body, and do you intend to take any action as a result of this movement?

            ALF response: We encouarage opposition. We truly believe that when most people know what is going on behind closed
            doors and why (torture for profit, not science), they will never forget it and not permit it. Therefore, anything that makes
            people take a closer look is good. All conflict from our foes generates news coverage and interest in the subject. It is a good
            thing. Just as it was a good thing you wrote to us regardless of what you think of us. The opinion that it's morally wrong to
            torture beings who want to live and be happy will be around long after we're gone. Attacking the messenger is not logical (the
            logical fallacy is called an ad hominem). Saying that the protestors are bad people or that the protestors are doing bad things
            isn't attacking the logic or the fact that scientists (except those making profits) feel that vivisection helps advance science.
            So, just as people hated the protestors throwing bricks through windows to demonstrate against the Vietnam War in the USA,
            eventually people realize that the moral issue is what is important (and, yes, we know that historically the people will still
            despise the protestors). We can live with that.



ay 02/04/2006 0:01:12am
             Sarah
             sladesapprentice@hotmail.com
             England
             Dude..WTF...You give a nice innocent homepage to dangerous people. STOP DESTROYING PROPERTY AND GO TO A
             MENTAL HOME!

            Seriously, I'm not saying that there should be any medical research, but if it means improving the way of human lives, and
            saving humans, then go for it, people can find the cure for cancer, AIDS, and so much more. Why do you love animals more
            then your own species?

            ALF response: Animal testing doesn't help. Please read this article:
            When Challenged, Vivisectors Couldn't Name One Patient Whose Life Had Been Saved By Animal Experiments--
            Proof that animal experiments don't save lives:


            Sarah: All you protesters should get a life...

            ALF: Thanks for your sincere concern. True happiness requires fidelity to a worthy purpose. I'm happy. I hope you are.



02/03/2006 9:26:05pm
            A Student

            Oxford
            Sorry about (the first paragraph of) my earlier comments, seems as if I pressed the wrong button so you didn't get the earlier
            submission to which I refer. I'll try to recall it...

            I am frankly dubious about your position and extremely worried, not to say sickened, by the extremism of some of your
            rhetoric - not to mention the actions of some of your members.
            I personally oppose all cosmetic testing on animals, but I wholeheartedly support vital medical research which, by using
            animal subjects, enables us to progress towards such advances as a cure for cancer or a vaccine for AIDS.

            I note that diabetic ALF members are only too happy to carry on living with the help of insulin, the medical use of which
            would not be possible today without animal testing. Yet you oppose labs which could, in the future, cure or treat other
            diseases. You are visiting untold suffering and death on future generations.

            ALF: Much of what you say is disputed. Here is a link that answers your questions about specific drugs. Many
            drugs were delayed, not helped, by animal testing: Animal Testing

            Student: I am aware that animal testing is not perfect (you will probably mention Thalidomide - but safety regulations are far
            more stringent now, so such a blunder is not likely to reoccur); but it remains the only viable option for many fields of
            potentially life-saving research. The only better alternative is to test on humans; the last time a world leader banned medical
            experimentation on animals, this was possible, since he was able to experiment on Jews, gypsies and homosexuals in
              And do not even think of suggesting that animal testing is in any way comparable to the Holocaust (as PETA have previously
              done). To do so is to insult the memory of over six million innocent people and offend all humans of conscience.

              ALF: The analogy made by PETA was NOT an insult to any of the Jews I know. They feel that anyone who gets insulted by
              an analogy between someone else's suffering and their own is being "childishly theatric". But it's irrelevant, anyway. One
              animal is too many.
              For what potential cure would you allow testing to be done on your family pet? Personally, I would not allow someone to
              torture my family pet for any potential cure if it wasn't the best way to achieve the end result. And each of the animals on
              which tests are conducted are as deserving of a happy life as my pet. Please read any of the articles that say animal testing is
              worthless, and refute them. We'll publish your rebuttal.

              Student: Of course, if we were able to test on volunteer humans, animal testing might fall naturally into decline - although, of
              course, the short lifespans of certain animals enables observaion of trends through several generations in a shorter period of
              time, so some would remain neccessary.

              With this in mind, why not take one for the team and volunteer yourselves as lab rats? Then we'll all be happier.

              ALF: Maybe we have done that and we just don't feel a need to tell you. Sorry if that doesn't make you happy.



02/03/2006 7:52:21pm
            russ parker

              oxford
              why threaten to bring oxford to its knees. what has the average oxford resident done to you. robin webb i would like to meet
              you one dark night. you rule by fear and intimidation. you are now a legitimate target keep looking behind you. i am an
              animal lover but wont be threatend by a twat like you

              ALF response: It has something to do with the University creating torture chambers to torture beings who don't deserve it, for
              reasons that many scientists understand to be folly.



02/03/2006 7:27:29pm
            Jim Taylor
            Taylorhvr@yahoo.com
            Birmingham, Alabama.....US
            All this animal rights crap makes me laugh. Sure, animals should not be mistreated, but yall are taking this to freaking far. its
            getting a bit ridiculous.
            i myself am an avid hunter, always have been. i hear all this talk about peta, alf, and the hsus trying to ban hunting. ha....that
            will never happen. its not like its a bad thing. God put animals here for us to eat. He told adam to kill the animals is the
            Garden for food. humans were made superior to animals for a reason...we did not "evolve" from a fucking ape.
            so give it all a break and go away...or come hunting with me...you might even learn a few things.

              ALF response: Has anyone ever disagreed with you? Or don't they bother?



02/03/2006 4:21:24pm
            A Student
             Oxford
             Are you going to put up my previous submission? Or are you scared that it might convince people of the wrongness of your
             cause?

             It's strange, you people always claim to want rational debate, but at a SPEAK protest the other week when I tried to discuss
             calmly the issues at hand with a protester, she called me 'sick' and walked off, refusing to engage in conversation.
             I have a feeling that this is because you know in your heart of hearts that your position is based on blind instinct, sentiment
             and fanaticism, and that reason - the very quality which differentiates humans from animals, whatever you might say - is not
             on your side.

             ALF response: All submissions are visible except for duplicates and posts by spammers advertising poker sites and cigarettes
             sales.

             We firmly believe logic is on our side. The FAQs, which address all the AR issues and have been on the website for 15 years,
             have not had a rebuttal that followed the rules of logic. Ever. Give it a go.



02/03/2006 2:52:24pm
            katia
            alfate@tut.by
            belarus
            my problem is my location.what i mean?look,all ur guests(and most of members,i guess) are from usa or uk.recently i have
            seen the programm about ALF activists even in russia.but in belarus there are no ALF,no Greenpeace,no ELF,no PETA...i
            feel like the only one vegetarian here.u know what people say when they learn that i don't eat meat?"u're idiot.u will die soon
            from such diet"!!!!!!!
            but animals suffer not only in europe and america.i really don't know what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!

             ALF response: The fact that you are alone makes you a more important voice than any of us. Keep up the good work. You
             are making a difference. Join our discussion forum for moral support.



02/03/2006 12:26:05am
            normal person

             Oxford
             Are all these posts still not getting the blatantly obvious point accross? you have no idea what youre doing, everyone thinks
             your in the wrong and youre tactics are only going to make that worse.
             Youve somehow managed to brainwash yourselves and each other into believing other animals are somehow the same as
             humans. I'd like to hear you try and respect the "human rights" of a tiger when its trying to maul you. The natural world
             doesn't respect rights and if you belive it does your deluding yourselves and have been watching too many disney films!

             ALF response: I sincerely hope that you don't have any family pets, and that nobody lets you near any of their family pets.
             The sentient beings that Oxford wants to torture will have more feelings and sense than most family pets and two-year-old



02/03/2006 11:42:19am
            S Swaby
            tenebrion@msn.com
              I read today that the ALF attacked an architectural practice that was not related in any way to the Oxford University animal
              lab project. I'd just like to bring notice to an alledged quote from an ALF spokesperson - "..the ALF now considers any
              company or institution invloved with the university or with its contractors to be legitimate targets... If [the campaign]
              identifies other architects involved with the university, they will also be considered legitimate targets."

              I would consider that terror tactics and persecution of the innocent. Whoever has represented yourselves in this case is likely
              to do more damage than good to your cause.
              All my fellow Architects have my support (directly involved or not) and as a result I am now against your activities, and I
              doubt I will be the only one.

              ALF response: With apathy toward Oxford's plan to torture sentient beings, you had already spoken loudly against them.

 02/03/2006 10:41:00am
             Abby

              Oxford
              I'm a linguist at Oxford uni and am unconnected with the building of the labs. When walking through the science area on my
              way to the
              Exam Schools, protestors shouted "scum of the earth" and other inciteful comments after me. Like many other students, we
              would like to know why we are being targetted.

              Incidentally, the builders "hide their heads in shame" because they are scared of what protestors might do to them should
              they discover their identity, not because they are ashamed.

              ALF response: I would hope that you could ask them, and that they would explain. Let us know, and we'll post it.



day 02/02/2006 10:31:03pm
             Bre
             bre-cal@hotmail.com
             Michigan
             What does the ALF think of PETA? Do both organizations agree on animal rights issues? And if not, which issues do you
             differ on?

              ALF response: That's a great question. We haven't read PETA's platform, so we can't answer with certainty.

              We both believe in rights for animals, which makes us different from animal welfare groups, like HSUS (but we agree with
              all of the work done by animal welfare groups). They operate strictly within the law.

              Similarly, we agree with the ideas and actions of PETA. But PETA does not get involved in illegal activities, such as
              rescuing animals from cosmetic testing facilities.

              So I guess the answer is simple. We believe in the same things, but some ALF members will step beyond the law to save an
              animal's life.

              Of course, I'm referring to organization platforms and not the actions of individuals.



day 02/02/2006 7:24:52pm
             Tomos Mitchell
             tomosmitchell@yahoo.co.uk
             Stroud, Uk
             my girlfriend is going to oxford university soon. if any of you hurt her in any way, i will hunt each one of you down and
             break every bone in your bodies.

             ALF response: If you'll tell us her name we'll make sure to give her a wide berth (no pun intended).



day 02/02/2006 6:24:15pm
             Gillian

             UK
             Maybe I wasn't specific enough on the medecine question. I found your answer to be very 'wooly'. Can I therefore be more
             specific? There is a vaccination in the testing stage, on mice, against bird flu, if there was a pandemic bird flu outbreak
             would animal 'libbers' not have to refuse the vaccine on moral grounds?

             ALF response: I would refuse it on moral grounds if it meant giving money to a company still testing drugs on animals. I
             would die before I'd be a deliberate part of making an animal suffer. Just as I would for my pet.



day 02/02/2006 5:25:15pm
             David

             Oxford, UK
             Given your recent activism in Oxford I was curious to find out about your policies and the reasoning behind your beliefs.
             Having read the site and the FAQs I can see why you oppose the construction of the lab by Oxford University; regardless of
             whether I agree with you or not, you seem to be at least rational about your cause and I respect your views.

             I wanted to ask a question, and as you seem to be answering those on this guestbook:
             Why are activists targeting those unconnected with the animal testing labs? Why is it necessary to harass those only remotely
             connected with the university?

             ALF response: It doesn't make sense to harass someone who is only remotely connected with the University.

             David: As a student myself I am apparently fair game in your policy of "War Against Oxford", even if I were to support your
             cause! I'm sure it's no suprise to you that most students are rather apathetic on the issue.

             ALF: Perhaps you answered your own question. I'd guess that some activists are trying to educate the students regarding the
             destination of their tuition money. When beings are dieing, there's nothing worse than apathy.

             David: I have read your FAQs and I note that they condone legal activities whilst noting that some illegal activities continue
             under your name. Why do you allow such things to continue?

             ALF: The ALF is a decentralized organization with self-appointed membership. We don't "allow" anything, but we have
             guidelines. Analogies are never perfect, but your question would be like asking a Catholic why another Catholic committed a
             sin. We don't know, nor do we have any control over what they do. Anyone, like yourself, who spends a few minutes learning
             about us should need no further explanation about what we condone.
             David: Surely you would get more support for your cause if you were to campaign legally. Certainly, you are not winning
             over those apathetic to the cause by including them as foes in your war against the university, that much is quite obvious
             from the results of various student polls recently conducted.

             ALF: Very few compassionate humans learn what goes on behind closed doors and still remain apathetic. They may hate
             individuals and organizations, but the logic and philosophy are not usually swayed, in the long run, by short term anger. In
             the USA, protestors for civil rights and protestors against the Vietnam War were always hated. But they found no other way
             to reach apathetic masses.

             David: Undoubtedly, university officials are becoming more hard-nosed as you draw them into an us-versus-them mentality.

             Perhaps you might dismiss this as undue criticism, but might I suggest that illegal activities are usually illegal for a reason,
             and having your name connected with them is no effective way to promote your cause.

             ALF: Fighting against slavery was illegal at one time, and those fighting against it no doubt heard the same logic you are
             presenting. Laws are made for reasons other than logic or morality. Many laws are made simply to protect someone's wealth,
             and usually not your's or mine.

             David: If you truely wish to stop the labs you should gain the support of the student body who are your best bet for getting
             the university officials to listen.

             As for me? I really didn't care one way or the other before all this started. If someone had given me reasonable cause to be
             concerned about the issue I might well have taken more of an interest.

             ALF: You make a case for those who made the threats to the students. Yourself (and others who have written privately), state
             that you took no interest in the reasons behind the peaceful protests, setting fire to a boathouse, and attacks on the lab -- and
             became interested only after it involved you, personally. That's not unusual behavior, but it should help you understand what
             it takes to get your attention.

             David: As it is my studies and those of my friends have been disruped by (a minority of, I'm sure) protestors who seem to
             think that anyone connected with the university is inherently evil. This is the madness that may ultimately lead to the
             downfall of your cause - you are ostracising the very people who are able to help you.

             Thanks for reading, I look forward to the day when this issue is resolved one way or another.

             ALF: As do we, because we're confident in the outcome. Someday, animals won't be property.



day 02/02/2006 9:12:48am
             Gillian

             UK
             As most common surgical techniques and pharmaceuticals if not directly tested on animals have developed to current day
             standards based on animal testing in the past, would this mean that members of animal liberation movements would be
             hypocritical in accepting medecine or hospital treatment for themselves or their families?

             ALF response: No. Just as it is not hypocritical to drive on roads built by slaves and still believe that slavery is wrong.



day 02/02/2006 2:01:32am
             Mary


             Hey-hey-hey..... just wanted to say thanks for such great website! I found soooo much useful information here...... thanks

             http://h1.ripway.com/LilBitch/index.htm



esday 02/01/2006 11:11:33pm
              Marsh hunter

             In the marsh, hunting!
             You eco-terrorists are terrible, is there ever such as thing as going too far?! What's next on you're terrorist agenda?

             ALF response:

             1. Stop all animal abuse.

             2. Rest.

             Marsh: Setting fire to buildings and damaging property all in the name of your "cause". You are no better than Osama Bin
             Ladden.

             ALF response: We think it's an important distinction that Osama wants to take lives, while we want to save lives. If that's not
             an important distinction to you, we won't argue. It seems your mind is made up.

             Marsh: I am a hunter, myself and other hunters have done more for wildlife and animals than you could ever hope for.

             ALF response: That logic has been refuted endlessly. If you'd care to have a go at writing an essay with reliable data for your
             position, we'll post it. Others have tried and failed. Perhaps because it's not true.



esday 02/01/2006 1:24:35pm
              Billy Vandal

             UK
             What are your views on eating animals that have died of natural cases and not have abuse throughout there life
             . Also you go on about how dangerous factory farmed animals are and the chemicals they use in them, yet you fail to mention
             about that happens in the production of veggie alternates, for example quorn is produced using lab. methods and can cause
             extreme allgeric reactions in many people. To me his seems that you are misleading us as much as the meat producers.

             ALF response: There is nothing morally wrong with eating any being that has died of natural causes.

             It's not misleading to state that, with very few exceptions, a vegetarian diet is healthier for the individual and better for the
             planet. If you have any reliable data refuting this, we'll publish it. We haven't seen any. Even spokespersons of the American
             meat industry have stated that a vegetarian diet is better for a person's health.

             Allergies are serious, and there are entire web sites devoted to them. So far, you're the first person confused by us not
             mentioning this fact.
ay 01/31/2006 7:01:15pm
             Chris
             Anon
             UK
             You are disgusting. You should all be in cages. Your threats of violence against Oxford students makes you worse than any
             scientist. While no-one likes to see animals suffer the training of Oxford students directly affects the next generation of
             modern medicine and is necessary for the greater good of the human race. I sincerely hope an Anti-ALF organisation comes
             forward willing to use the same tactics of violence and intimidation on ALF members and their loved ones!

              ALF response: We're not impressed by threats, either. Our motto is "Deeds, not Words."



ay 01/31/2006 5:55:19pm
             Suvine Grasmick
             Coconutcream@gmail.com
             Miami Fl
             Thank for very much, I will check your website often...I will read the whole thing thru often.

              I am so proud of you and what you do. It is like you are real angels on earth, working for those who cannot speak.

              Animal Liberation will be the greatest time ever on this planet and I plan on seeing it and being responsible ( along with
              others) for it happening.

              I wish the best to all who help in this great cause and movement.

              We are all over the world!

              I send love to those who risk their lives saving animals and I send love to those just starting.

              Taking any kind of action, however small, changes the universe, the global brain forever!! For the better!!

              I would volunteer any work that I can do. Please contact me, from anywhere..I can do Illustration and am great with writing
              and photography.

              Also if you ever have a newsletter add me.

              Yours Suvine
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2:30:12pm
             amy

             devon
             i am very interested in helping the ALF how can i do so?

             ALF response: Please read our credo and mission statement, then the section on practical
             actions, and our FAQs. Let us know what you think.



3:01:24am
             James

             England
             I agree with your cause.

             ALF response: We think you're a very smart person.



11:53:24am
             Heather

             Washington
             I wish I could go to the fur factories in China and help liberate the thousands of cats and dogs
             who are crammed into cages and then starved, beaten or bled to death for their fur. It's a
             despicable situation that continues to occur just so people can wear fur.

             Signing petitions and contacting the Chinese ambassador is a good start (please see link below)
             and something all who are reading this should do if they want to help outlaw the cat/dog fur
             trade. In addition to this, I can only hope that ALF and other animal rights supporters who live
             in China (are there many?) can do something to help end the suffering of these animals.


             http://www.furisdead.com/feat-dogcatfur.asp



3:39:59am
             SIMARA ROSE
             WWW.MYSPACE.COM/STARLIT
             LOS ANGELES
          I have studied The Holocaust,Slavery , South Africa's Apartheid ..the slaughter of the Native
          American Indians (just to name a few) and there is no difference between what happens to
          animals and those horrors.That's why I feel positive that the world will have a revelation and
          Animals will be liberated for the most part one day as for the most part treating humans in the
          above ways is now not acceptable.
          .To kill or cause harm to an innocent life to "save' a life-now that's twisted.Animals are similar
          to us in that they have feelings and a mind and a soul but their bodies are different than ours not
          only is it harmful to trust anything animal testing finds but it's cruel.The animal doesn't have a
          choice to volunteer it's life..and who would want to?The tests are painful.These animals are
          kidnapped or breed into the labs.Their short lives are spent in cages or containers.All around
          them they hear other animals in pain and fear.they are lonely and scared.They are cut open,
          burned ,beaten sometimes, dissected and murdered.That's a real life nightmare.And the sick
          thing is there are multiple alternatives to animal testing that are effective.people who go in and
          rescue animals from labs and burn down testing facilities, Those are brave people.I have never
          heard of one of them hurting an actual person.There could be some animal activists that hate all
          humans and harm them but there are crazy fuckers in every walk of life.The majority of animal
          liberators are just, more so than the majority of non animal liberators..Look I am pretty much
          peaceful person , but if I see another huam being harming an innocent person or animal or try

          I begin to feel even more so that it was wrong to eat meat.I also noticed little veins in the dead
          shrimp and chicken that I was served.. when i was 11 saw some baby roosters in a mall.I asked
          my Mum if that was what we ate sometimes and she said yes.That was it!I stated to her that I
          would never eat meat again and though she herself was not a vegetarian she supported my
          ethics and choice to be one myself.

          As a teen I had an even bigger awakening..I discovered Animal Liberation , Environmental and
          Human Rights Groups.Particularly PETA.I began to let my brain devour all their info and
          documentaries.the last thing to go was cheese.I was obsessed with it yet I had a feeling eating
          dairy was wrong to. So I faced the truth and read up on the cruelty and horrific Nazi
          concentration camp-like imprisionment that the animals all were forced to endure just so

          someone like me could have momentary pleasure in my taste buds..that momentary pleasure
          faded fast.It was simply not worth it to eat anything , wear anything or use any product in
          general that another creature had to suffer for.

          In the year 2005 there really i no excuse once you have your own revelation about animals
          NOT to go Vegan.Unless you live in a isolated tribe in Africa or an Igloo in Alaska where there
          are no stores as there is sooooooooo many compassionate and cruelty free products to use now.




58:12am
          gregg v.l
          gregg29rock@yahoo.com
          phila pa.
          Everybody just talks a good game about helping animals, lets try to do something about it.If
          everyboby who says they would do something actually did something, problem solved!!!!!
6 0:44:50am
               Ray P.
               pallinstew@sbcglobal.net
               Pampa (in the Texas panhandle)
               I just recently familiarized myself with the computer and your site was one of the first I
               searched. I have been an admirer of your fine work for years and welcome the opportunity to
               view your material. You might be surprised at the number of people who live in this area who
               are supportive of the ALF philosophy. Of course, you remember the infamous Oprah trial! This
               is an isolated region, but there are supporters who wish you the best in the struggle to free
               animals of the agony of pointless, deliberate abuse. I have also viewed several other related
               sites, like WAR and Arkangel. Access to this information is not only access to knowledge, but
               a means to embolden those of us who are otherwise distanced from where the real struggles
               take place. Thank you and God bless this wonderful cause!




06 8:50:51pm
               gemma

               herts
               thank you i have been going through loads of web sites today, it would appear human tissue
               testing would be a much more reliable & humane form of testing all products. also the research
               carried out by the Dr Hadwen Trust, perhaps if more people were aware of this options, the
               goverment would have to review its position on animal testing! i have found the pictures i have
               seen really disturbing...
               i must ask do you release animals into the wild after you take them out of the labs? as some of
               them look really poorly, & others of course may have a disease that may not have visible
               symptoms, releasing them could cause them or other wild animals harm?

               The ALF guidelines are:

               1. TO liberate animals from places of abuse, i.e. laboratories, factory farms, fur farms, etc, and
               place them in good homes where they may live out their natural lives, free from suffering.


               We're a decentralized organization, with no more control over the behavior of its members
               than, say, the Republican political party.



06 12:36:49am
            gemma


               hello
               i'm writing an essay on animal testing i have to give an arguement why it is essential and then
               your side i suppose of why it is not...
               i chose this essay title after watching the channel 4 docu-soap animals on the 12/1/06
               prior to that i had never given thought to animal testing.
               is there anything you would like to add to my essay?
               the title is
               scientific testing on animals is essential for cosmectic products, domestic products and medical
               research (discuss)

               ALF response: You have a difficult task. Many companies find that it is not necessary, and
               certainly not essential.



06 0:14:10am
               n/a
               n/a
               n/a
               its really a simple question does your organisation, or if you prefer some members of your
               group, use bomb/arson attacks? if so doesn't that then devalue your credo since you are putting
               people's lives at risk?

               ALF response: That's as logical as saying that if a Christian sins, it devalues the 10
               commandments.

               When you can follow that logic, get back to me.



10:50:15pm
               Kate
               anodyne911@hotmail.com
               Maine, California & New Mexico
               I would like to receive news updates from you.

               I have property in Maine and New Mexico that perhaps I could let you use for projects to help
               animals.

               The property in Maine is being planned by me to create a sanctuary.

               Thank you,

               ALF response: We don't have a newsletter. Everything we have is on the web site.
               Let us know if we can help you in any way.



6:58:27pm
               n/a
               n/a
               n/a
               is it your postion that the alf doesn't engage in the activites mentioned in the link that i posted.
               which were more then just arson attacks.

               ALF response: Once you read the ALF credo and guidelines, you are as qualified to make that
               judgment as me. We have the same sources of information (usually slanted). And since we
               rarely know the whole story we don't see a purpose in labelling actions.
             n/a: in faq 89, on this site, you said that harrasment and destruction of property cannot be
             considered terroism, and seemed to indicate that harrasment is acceptable. Does that then give a
             racist the right to harras, but not harm people of the race that they hate.

             ALF response: The legal right to do something varies around the world. In most places animal
             rights advocates protest within the law. In most places racists, child-abusers, fascists, and
             conservatives have the right to express opinion, but don't express it in public. Many ARAs are
             proud of what they believe.

             n/a: how do you destroy property without using bombs or arson

             ALF response: Excuse me, but now you seem to be asking questions just to keep me busy. The
             properties that are typically destroyed are instruments of torture in labs, etc. Just dropping them
             might suffice. I don't have time to stimulate your imagination.



1:49:57pm
             n/a


             just to be clear using you and your in reference to your organstion.

             in response to your reply to my last message.

             are you denying that YOU use bombs and arson attacks? you cannot prevent harm to people
             using those methods.

             here is an intresting link

             ALF response: I deleted the news items because they've already been reported here. Essentially

             Anyone, including those who wish to discredit ALF, can claim they are ALF. However, our
             credo requires that all precautions be taken to avoid harming ANY and ALL sentient life (this
             includes rats and mice and birds in buildings). Logically, this rules out arson and bombing.


             The credo hasn't changed since it was first written. If you want to debate ALF positions, you'll
             have to debate the credo, the mission statement, or FAQs -- not the actions of unknown persons
             who claim to be ALF. You can read the ALF positions and decide for yourself if a reported
             action qualifies as an ALF action. We don't have sufficient reliable data to comment. Sidebar:
             We know of two cases where folks were convicted by insurance companies for torching their
             buildings and spray-painting ALF. I'd bet it will happen again.




12:27:20am
             n/a
             n/a
             n/a
            what about peoples right to live their lives without the fear of YOU blowing them up or burning
            them to death.

            planting bombs and using arson kills people,YOU cannot avoid killing people using those
            methords. how would YOU feel if somebody killed a member of YOUR family.

            do YOU have any right to impose your morals on others, espically by using terroist techqines? i
            would call planting bombs and arson terroist attacks, as would most people.


            ALF response: Nobody has been killed by the ALF -- ever. If you are a meat eater, there is
            more reason to be afraid of the food you eat. Perhaps you want to call your butcher a terrorist?


            As far as imposing our morals on others: we're imposing the "Thou shalt not kill" moral. We've
            heard that it's already been written in stone. If God had meant for that commandment to apply
            to humans only he could have said "Thou shalt not murder". Of course, we're assuming that
            He's smart. It's your right to disagree.



8:23:34pm



            This is all well and good, but what about suffering humans who are being murdered and
            tortured daily in countries all over the world?

            ALF response: Many of the consequences of carrying out the animal liberation agenda are
            highly beneficial to humans. For example, stopping the production and consumption of animal
            products would result in a significant improvement of the general health of the human
            population, and destruction of the environment would be greatly reduced.

            Secondly, fostering compassion for animals will produce an increase of compassion in human
            affairs. Professor Tom Regan puts it this way: "...the animal rights movement is a part of, not
            antagonistic to, the human rights movement. The theory that rationally grounds the rights of
            animals also grounds the rights of humans. Thus those involved in the animal rights movement
            are partners in the struggle to secure respect for human rights--the rights of women, for
            example, or minorities, or workers. The animal rights movement is cut from the same moral
            cloth as these."

            Finally, the behavior asked for by the AR agenda involves little expenditure of resources. We
            are asking people to NOT do things: don't eat meat, don't exploit animals for entertainment, and
            don’t wear furs. These actions don't interfere with one's ability to care for humans.




2:53:22pm
            dewberry
            jirisdreissue@gmail.com
            croatia
              I like this web site..i support your work because I'm an activist in croatia.i just wont to say hi to
              you;))



11:33:10am
              JH

              California
              Hi all-

              To those who are passionate about protecting animal rights and punishing those who abuse
              animals, please take a moment to visit this website regarding cat torture case/Canada animal
              rights laws (it's an important cause):

              http://www.freeanimals.org/klaw/index.html

              If you live in Canada this will be especially relevant since it concerns changing animal cruelty
              laws in your country. However, everyone who believes in animal rights should be aware of the
              Kensington case and help in any way they can to campaign for tougher sentencing for animal
              abusers.



5:14:53pm
              ALF/ELF Supporter

              USA
              Please stop posting ...yada yada yada ... deleted...

              ALF response: We have 3 strong reasons to doubt that you are an ALF/ELF Supporter.



0:25:01am
              Shari Riggs

              Dayton, Ohio
              I think it is heroic what the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front are doing. I
              wish more people were brave enough to get thier hands dirty for the right reasons!!!




 10:31:17pm
              Gaea Ashgrove
              gigagia1127@hotmail.com
              Middle of nowhere
              Dear ALF,
              I am a very dedicated animal rights advocate.
             I am the only vegetarian in my family, (not allowed to go vegan...yet) and I'd like to say that I
             back what you guys are doing all the way. Being only fourteen, I try to do all I can right now-I
             volunteer at Hawk Creek, a well-known non-profit animal rehab center specializing in birds of
             prey.
             I have also given many speeches in Social Studies/ Global regarding animal rights. My brother
             (and the rest of my family) is completely speciesist and are against animal rights...it's very hard
             eating with them, what with their chicken fingers and beef...yuck. I hope to join either the
             HSUS or Greenpeace very soon...
             ...save the whales...and let's unite to get rid of fur farms everywhere...
             -Gaea
             P.S...let's save the trees, too...



11:34:03am



             Where can i get 1 of the animal liberation front videos i know they are on the web but is there
             anywhere i can order 1?

             Try here:
             http://www.rootsofcompassion.org/newshop/catalog/index.php



3:30:39am
             Joe Wilson

             New Mexico-cattle ranch
             We, the cattle ranchers of New Mexico, are please at the indictments handed down today
             against ALF/ELF terrorists. Those of you facing 20 or more years of imprisonment must now
             answer the question...was it really worth 20 years of your life just to save a few dumb animals?
             Undoubtedly not, as some of you are turning on your brethren to lesson your own length of
             incarceration.

             Not much any of you can do for animals behind concrete walls, is there? Those of you who
             think you will be remembered as martyrs are in for a rude awakening...you'll only be
             remembered as terrorists.

             ALF response: Many of those who are serving jail time have spoken out on the question "Was
             it worth it?". You will find their words on many websites. They are hearing kind words from
             supporters, and they are proud of having saved lives. They don't feel their incarceration is as
             bad as the pain they stopped in the animals they rescued. They would do it again. Some are
             more adamant about animals' rights than before they were arrested.


             These are their words, not ours.

             Then, of course, there's this reality:
            Washington, DC- On Friday the Justice Department announced that 11 individuals were being
            charged in a 65 count indictment handed down by a Eugene, Oregon grand jury for a series of
            events from 1996 to 2001. The indictment charged the individuals with a series of arsons,
            sabotage and vandalism that were claimed by the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal
            Liberation Front. These acts of eco-sabotage have been falsely labeled "terrorism” by FBI
            director Robert Mueller, even though no one has ever been harmed.


            Adding to the buzz, news that one of the state’s key witnesses is an informant who is
            disreputable, and a know heroin user, caused activists to speculate about how good a case the
            FBI could really have. Historically, the FBI has had very little success in investigating and
            prosecuting environmental and animal liberation activists because of the loose non-hierarchical
            structure of activist cells along with their penchant for a strong security culture, which serves to
            protect the identity of underground activists.

            The indictments were announced just days after it was revealed that a tape had been received
            from international terrorist Osama Bin Laden, who promised a continued campaign of violence
            against the United States. The close proximity of today’s announcement regarding the
            indictments caused many to wonder if this was a diversionary tactic meant to draw attention
            away from the FBI’s failure in the international terrorism arena and to distract the public from
            the current debate regarding illegal wire taps being perpetrated by the Government.


            North American Animal Liberation Press Officer Dr. Jerry Vlasak observed: “The FBI has
            been known in the past to ramrod weak prosecutions based on inconclusive and highly
            questionable sources and evidence, especially when the suspect is an environmental activist”.
            In November, 2005 the FBI agreed to pay $100,000 and to issue a letter of regret to activist
            Josh Connole, who was arrested under suspicion of being involved in a string of SUV
            vandalisms.

            Another North American Animal Liberation Press Officer, Camille Hankins noted: "If you look
            at the backgrounds and professions of those indicted you will find that many of them work in
            professions that involve helping others. One is a firefighter, one works with the
            developmentally disabled, all have enlarged their circle of compassion to work to protect the
            animals and the earth. To label these people eco-terrorists is a terrible injustice."




0:20:58pm
            Ronan
            ronan_m_c@hotmail.com
            Northern Ireland
            Your site, ethics, moral disposition and people of your calibre is a credit to the human species.
            Exposing the depravity and sickness of vivisection apologists who, under the guise of a
            supreme righteous cause for humanity, are blinded by an unbridled passion of misguided
            nobility for miraculous cures, that they think one day will justify the mutilation, torture and
            slaughter of virtually any animal they get their blood-soaked hands on and deem it necessary to
            fulfil their aspirations.
43:48pm
              Courtney
              cofoo10@hotmail.com
              NYC
              I want to help in the Animal Liberation movement.

              ALF response: Welcome. Please read our credo and mission statement. Then read the FAQs,
              and visit or join our discussion forum. Hopefully you'll still be enthused. Everything we have is
              on our website.



07:26am
              Jenn
              Miracle_angelfire69@hotmail.com
              Mojave
              I have heard so many things about certain countries shutting down fur farms but it all seems
              like someones hopeful dream. Where IS fur farming banned? And is it true that Finland is
              going to shut down all fur farms by 2008? is fur farming banned in Switzerland or Austria? Is
              China even in the stage of considering animal rights?
              -Jenn


50:24am
              MichaelCurty
              condor838@hotmail.com
              Calif,EastCounty,Sandiego
              Hello,Just wanting to say those that dont beleive in the alf that your crazy we are the Irish
              brotherhood and we great watch over those that protect and rescue animals and w3e atre
              ourselves we send a message to polluters you dump you pay.We have seen so many things of
              animal testing and earth destruction that we have taken a stand on it to say hell no to those that
              want to dump in wild life areas.The earth will not last with all ther pollution and destruction.To
              those that think other wise you must be stupid and let big business win time to stand on your
              feet and say hell no.Animals are like your famile and will allways be here for many years to
              come.Because in times to come animals will help the disabled to survive and to help the elderly
              but to kill and use them for aniaml testing thats insane.If you wish to contact me please feel to
              email me I would llove to meet with local freedom fighters for animals.Thankyou and keep the
              planet and animals safe.MichaelCurty I.B.H




6 2:55:07am
              Michele
              dragonteeth55@yahoo.com
              Eugene Oregon
              Anyone in the Eugene area who know of a good animal group that I can join, please contact
              me. Alf thank you for what you have done to help the voiceless and to give more power to the
              individual who thought they couldn't make a difference.
06 4:26:55am
               Angela
               kitten_mrrrl_69@hotmail.com
               North Bay Ont Canada
               Wow, I've learnt alot from your website things i never knew,I'm a vegan, And I stand for
               Animals right all the way....Just wish there was an Animal Liberation front in my area!!...Keep
               protesting and I hope we achieve what we are striving for...ANIMAL FREEDOM!!




3:12:19am
               Irene
               nievesfamily5199@cox.net
               RI
               I learned about the ALF through books written by Ingrid Newkirk (what an awesome
               woman)and Peter Singer, and discovered that vegetarians and animal rights activists have been
               fighting for all sentient beings since the 1800's. My sincere, heartfelt appreciation goes out to
               all members of ALF. You are truly outstanding and loving people! I find it heartbreaking that
               after hundreds of years, speciesism still exists. Please, please continue with what you do, and I
               in turn will continue to do my part by speaking for those who cannot speak! GOD BLESS ALL
               OF YOU!!!



1:45:09am
               Christine
               autumnlady@dragonswood.org.uk
               Cambridgeshire UK
               Love your site and love you folks, you rock!

               Keep on protesting!!!!



3:07:24pm
               rik
               kellig@mail.com

               I just spent several hours on your website, and want to thank you for providing such a rich and
               enjoyable experience. Your site is so evocative and powerful that I have to express my deep
               appreciation that you took the time to set it up.

               ALF response: Thanks. We deleted your advertisement, so hopefully your compliments were
               genuine and not profit-driven.



4:37:28am
               Leah Sparks
               sweetnhyper22@yahoo.com
               MO
            Great job! I dont see why the government is mad- the alf is like a law enforcemnet
            organizations- accept its laws are way better!
            i am a vegetarian and have been since i was eight
            even though ive been ridiculed... and dumped for what i belive in- i wont lose hope!



4:16:43pm
            Michelle Stevens

            Devon, England
            Saw the documentary 'Animals' and it broke my heart to see so called 'mans best friend' being
            treated like that. I love all animals but understand that some animal testing needs to be done.
            But NOT on dogs!



11:46pm
            Maria
            mzcreeawe@yahoo.com
            North Dakota
            I'm agianst animal testing because it is wrong, and some people don't realize that animals do
            feel the pain that they put them through. I would only wish that the people that do these cruel
            acts could feel the pain that they feel. Some people may not believe what i believe and say that
            were ignorant, but doesn't it make you a selfish person to do this just so you can save yourself.
            There is other solutions then having to kill an animal, I always get ask stupid questions on why
            I believe so strongly on this topic. I just answer simply " Put yourself or someone you love in
            this position and tell me what feelings come to you." People kind of look down at me for
            making the choices I made, but they don't realize it hurts me to see that someone can hurt
            something that hasn't even put any harm on them. I can type longer but I have a lot of opinons,
            and I wish I can do something to help out. It's kind of hard to get information when your from
            North Dakota. I'm graduating soon and want to help out in some way. But ya it is north dakota.




41:14pm
            martin

            united kingdom
            saw animals last night on t.v and would just like to say that i have supported your cause for the
            last 20 years by donations as thats all ican do for to take a more active role i would by the
            means of my own heart end up in prison for killing these empty headed parasites who inflict
            such pain and suffering on our animal kingdom.
            These people will be forced in the near future to see the error of their ways and their will be a
            restoration of harmony between humans and animals...
               "for them i shall certainly conclude a covenant in that day in connection with the wildbeast of
               the field and with the flying creature of the heavens and the creeping thing of the ground(Hosea
               2:18) i will conclude with them a covenant of peace and i shall certainly cause the injurious
               wild beast to cease out of the land and they will actually dwell in the wilderness in security and
               sleep in the forests"(Ezekiel 34:25) god bless you and your work.




14:29pm
               GEORGE


               Animal testing is wrong for many reasons, if anyone says that there is nothing wrong with
               it..look back at the holocaust, some cures and medicines came from the experiments on the
               jews...are u saying it was right to kill thousands of jews in a laboratory for the sake of curing a
               temporary cold???~~~~~~~~??



32:58pm
               Steve BURN

               Portsmouth England
               Saw the drama/ documentary last night "Animals" Jan 12th 2006 on Ch 4. Nice to see how
               people with guts are prepared to go one step further than the rest to stop the cruelty.




00:20am
               Richard


               ALF response: There is no need to cut and paste information from the CCF web site. They have
               an agenda with no credibility.



6 10:29:04pm
               kongo

               internet
               ’We sometimes wonder how things were before we were here. We sometimes wonder what
               things will be like when we are gone. But we never think about what is happening right now.’




6 9:40:58pm
               Tony
US
What a bunch of fucking morons, they don't undestand that without animal testing my little
brother would DIE. He has Diabetes and is dependant on insulin from animals, you would
rather risk children to save a few rabbits?

Burn in hell, you ignorant fucks.

ALF response: Pro-animal experiment contingencies always cite the development of insulin as
support for continued animal testing. They assert, with justification, that without insulin
harvested from slaughterhouses many diabetics would have lost their lives. Whereas it is true
that animals have figured largely in the history of diabetic research and therapy, their use has
not been necessary and furthermore has not always advanced science.


Diabetes is a very serious disease, even today affecting ten to fourteen million Americans. It is
a leading cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure and premature death. Although the
clinical signs of human diabetes have been known since the first century AD, not until the late
eighteenth century did physicians associate the disease with characteristic changes in the
pancreas seen at autopsy. As this was difficult to reproduce in animals, many scientists disputed
the role of the pancreas in the disease.
Nearly a century later, in 1869, scientists identified insulin-producing pancreatic cells that
malfunction in diabetic patients. Other human pancreatic conditions, such as pancreatic cancer
and pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas) were seen to produce diabetic symptoms,
reinforcing the disease's link with the pancreas.

Animal experimenters continued to interrupt the nicely progressing course of knowledge
regarding the pancreas and diabetes. When they removed pancreases from dogs, cats, and pigs,
sure enough, the animals did become diabetic. However, the animals' symptoms led to
conjecture that diabetes was a liver disease, linking sugar transport to the liver and glycogen.
These animal studies threw diabetes research off track for many years.

In 1882, a physician named Dr. Marie noted the association between acromegaly, a pituitary
disorder, and sugar in the urine, thus connecting sugar metabolism and the pituitary gland.
Another doctor, Atkinson, published data in 1938 that revealed 32.8 per cent of all acromegalic
patients suffered from diabetes. Bouchardat published similar findings in 1908. For some
reason, the scientist who reproduced this in dogs, Bernardo Houssay, ended up winning the
Nobel Prize in 1947. Obviously, it is hardly fair to say dogs were responsible for his kudos,
since knowledge predated Houssay's experiments and any number of human-based methods
would have produced the same findings.

In the early 1920s two scientists, John Macleod and Frederick Banting, isolated insulin by
extracting it from a dog. For this they received a Nobel Prize. Macleod admitted that their
contribution was not the discovery of insulin, but rather reproducing in the dog lab what had
already been demonstrated in man. They were not obliged to extract insulin from dogs, because
certainly there was ample tissue from humans. They merely did so because it was convenient.
In that same year Banting and another experimenter, named Best, gave dog insulin to a human
patient with disastrous results. Note what scientists said about the dog experiments in 1922,The
production of insulin originated in a wrongly conceived, wrongly conducted, and wrongly
interpreted series of experiments. Banting, Best and other scientists modified the process using
in vitro techniques and later mass-produced insulin from pig and cow pancreases collected at
slaughterhouses.
               In coming years scientists continued to refine the animal-derived substance. Though it is true
               that beef and pork insulin saved lives, it also created an allergic reaction in some patients. Beef
               insulin has three amino acids that differ from human amino acids while pork insulin has only
               one. Whereas this sounds negligible, it takes very little amino acid discrepancy to undermine
               health. (Only one deviant amino acid is enough to produce certain life threatening diseases,
               such as cystic fibrosis or sickle cell anemia.) Injecting animal-derived insulin also presented the
               sizable danger of transmitting viruses that cross from one species to another. Had researchers
               then recognized these potentialities as well as the gulf of differences between humans and farm
               animals, scientists would have hastened to develop human insulin more quickly.

               The ability to treat patients suffering from diabetes without giving them insulin injections was
               discovered by chance on humans. Today, the administration of oral anti-hyperglycemics, which
               arose from serendipity and self-experimentation, eliminates the need for insulin injections in
               many patients.
               Diabetes is still stunningly enigmatic, in large part due to our continued reliance on the animal
               model. Most clinicians believe that strict glucose control though insulin injections offers
               advantages over a less regimented treatment plan. However, insulin is a treatment not a cure for
               diabetes. The exact biochemical process through which insulin regulates blood sugar is not yet
               known.



06 4:43:23pm
               brian ogilsbie2
               brian@yahoo.com
               fairborn,ohio
               animal testing is wrong those sick jerk. should be ilegal anyone who agrees should go 2 against
               animal testing.com and sign the petition im out bye



06 2:13:25pm
               Susana Bettin
               susana_bettin@sapo.pt
               Portugal
               I wish you all continuation of a GREAT work...in the end standing up for what is right it's the
               only thing that matter.



06 3:05:27am
               thomas knight
               ratsalad@cox.net
               phoenix
               its a wonderfull thing to know that some people still out there who care may god be with you
               always



11:36:50pm
               aj
            california
            im young

            ALF response: Hopefully there is more to you than that.



1:45:22pm
            Miriam

            Brazil
            Hi, how are you?
            I should like to know what do you think about the fact: if we don't need eat meat and others
            products animal's origin, is fact what the soy and others vegetals agriculture, for example, is
            prejudicial to nature, actually, because it's grow in native forest areas.

            ALF response: Raising cattle does more damage to the earth than any other food source of
            equal nutritional value.



1:44:36pm
            michael


            Reply To Richard:

            You use the established industry eupemhism of "raising" gendered individual mammals and
            birds which promotes the practise and smokescreens the-castration,debeaking,branding and
            physical domination and killing of an individual mammals and birds pulsating heartbeat,you
            then say its natural and imply humans are "hunters" like lions or tigers,well i have'nt seen a lion
            or tiger use a knife,gun,cage or stove oven(to soften the hardened flesh) when they are
            killing,eating flesh but it appeals to yours(and many others) vain ego-you plead necessity in
            abusing(castration,branding,forible impregnation) and killing gendered individual mammals
            and birds where there is none-Donald Watson founder of the vegan society lived till 95 years of
            age-and justify it all by saying the "animal Kingdom" does it implying why can i-so
            sheep,cows,calfs,lambs,horses,chickens,pigs are vicious carnivores are they?



            your a human being when you want maintain unique superiority and moral importance but your
            an animal when you want to selfishly justify unnecessary blood spilling by implying were
            "animals" too.



8:17:16am
            Richard
            raultalbot7@yahoo.com
            USA
            Some rights 'should be' afforded to animals...but not all. I don't think an animal should be
            tortured. When I talk about torture, I mean just that.... the inflicting of pain for its own sake, in
            order to gain some kind of gratification from that act.
            Raising a cow or chicken to be used as a food source is not torture. The killing of that animal
            (if done correctly) is not torture. It's not particularly unnatural or cruel for people to use
            animals as a source of nutrition or to exploit them (which is something that occurs throughout
            the animal "kingdom").

            A lot of you ARA's, who are concerned about torture to animals in the meat industry, would do
            well to focus more specifically on the horrors of factory farming (that's right....I don't like
            factory farming). A really concentrated focus on factory farming could bring in mass support. It
            would certainly be a more palatable approach for a large number of people than demanding
            they stop eating meat.

            I eat meat and in order for me to get that 'food source' and animal must die. That's a fact. The
            arguement that we can survive off 'plant life' alone has not been 'satisfactorily' proven to me.


            Anyway, I find the main problem with the animal rights movement.... is its superficiality....or
            intellectual sloppiness, to be more precise. If you need reasons for that statement.... just look
            around any AR forum.

            "In life it is impossible to eschew violence completely. The question arises, where is one to
            draw the line? The line cannot be the same for everyone.... Meat-eating is a sin for me. Yet for
            another person who has always lived on meat and never seen anything wrong in it, to give it up
            simply to copy me will be a sin."
            --Gandhi



4:39:30pm
            melanie

            ????
            hey this site rox lol jordy



4:37:13am
            Mickey

            USA
            well, im not quite old enough to be doing any of this undercover stuff, but I just wanted to say
            good job, and that I support you guys 110%.



7:48:03pm
            Mick
              While I applaud the work that the RSPCA does unfortunately they could do a hell of a lot more.


              The RSPCA has £125 million in shares floating on the stock market instead of being invested
              in fighting for their cause.

              The chairman of the RSPCA is allegedly on an income of £250,000 per year, and he claims
              more than that in expenses apparently, having his own private helicopter. In the light of the fact
              that there exists many beleagured animal sanctuaries in Britain, run purely through the
              dedication and devotion of volunteers and owners, and who incur expenses the minimum of
              which come to £1000 a week, the aforementioned assets held by the RSPCA as well as the
              amounts of pay awarded to senior executives is absolutely inexcusable.


              From my own personal experience, it is a devil of a job to get the RSPCA to come out and
              investigate cases of animal cruelty. Don't get me wrong, they do do this, but they could do this
              a lot more. In the words of a chap I know from London, 'They won't come out unless there is a
              TV camera in front of them'. I have heard similar scenarios repeated up and down the country.
              One woman I know eventually forced the RSPCA to come out andhelp a swan whose face was
              entangled in fishing gut only after she threatened to report them to the local paper as despite
              numerous phone calls from her day after day nothing was being done.


              The RSPCA did absolutely bugger all to help the stricken cats at Hillgrove Cat Farm, as
              Cynthia O'Neill relates in her book 'A Cat in Hell's Chance'. In fact, they ignored her protests
              completely.

              In the event of an injured animal being rescued by the RSPCA, they will take it to the local vet.
              However it is RSPCA company policy to pay that local vet only £25:00 towards the cost of
              treatment, which in many cases is serious and needs thousands of pounds worth of veterinary
              attention.

              The RSPCA will also put healthy animals down after a limited number of weeks if a home isn't
              found for them. With £125 million in shares, I feel they could do a lot better.

              Finally I would like to point out that I am not knocking the RSPCA's work altogether, some of
              it is excellent, but my view is that they could do a hell of a lot more.


 7:28:46pm




              I have read many of the previous answers you have gave and i want to know why you answer
              these comments if you work for a company that tests on animals, what is the name of this
              company and why do you work there?

              ALF response: If I told you, I'd have to kill myself.



6 9:37:13pm
               ARE THE RSPCA GOOD OR BAD I HAVE READ LOADS SAYING THEY ARE PRO-
               VIVISECTION AND OTHERS SAYING THEY ARE NOT. PLEASE COULD YOU TELL
               ME WHAT THEY ARE AND WETHER I SHOULD SUPPORT THEM I OPPOSE ALL
               ANIMAL SUFFERING

               ALF response: The RSPCA, like most animal welfare organizations, does a tremendous amount
               of good. Their work doesn't conflict with what animal rights advocates want to see done. But,
               in our opinion, they just don't go far enough. For example, they don't fight against factory
               farming or vivisection (individuals may speak out against these things, but they don't spend
               offical money to fight them.) But it may be just a matter of priority. If they ever get all the
               animal welfare issues taken care of, maybe they would get to some animal rights issues.




6 9:02:27pm


               UK
               When animal rights activists go undercover and work in labs to film the cruelty like on various
               peta campaigns doesnt this mean that the people who go undercover have to do the hideous
               things to animals aswell doesnt it make more sense to protest against all labs and use the
               information we already have about the disgusting things they do to shut them down than to go
               and work in one regardless whether the person is gathering information, to abuse animals is
               wrong even if it could help overs in the same position. please tell me if i wrong i have been
               wondering about it.

               ALF response: In most instances the undercover person is filling a position that would be filled
               by someone else, so it's better for the animals that they are in that job than someone who doesn't
               care about the animals. More commonly, people ask if it is wrong to work in a pet store that
               sells live animals, since AR advocates picket these stores. It might seem like they shouldn't do
               it, since they would be supporting the store, but if they can give good advice to customers (such
               as telling people how much time and care it takes to bond with a parrot) then they are helping
               animals. If they quit, they may be replaced by someone who wants to only sell animals. In
               summary: "Insiders" can do a lot of good for the animals. Stories abound with people caught in
               this dilemma.



6 7:45:04pm
               leo


               HAVE U READ SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENT and NAKED EMPRESS;OR THE
               GREAT MEDICAL FRAUD BY HANS RUESCH?



06 7:48:00pm
               james

               england
               if the animal liberation front has no offical membership or members then who made this
               website and who answers these questions. Im not anti-AR im an activist i was just wondering,
               Also i have many cruelty-free guides with charities and companies that dont test on animals but
               they all differ from each other for example in my peta guide tesco is cruelty free but the BUAV
               say they are not and then uncaged say they are not but tesco say they are, so what would you
               recommend as they best and most reliable guide to use to live a cruelty-free life. thanks


               ALF response: The web site was created to store information of interest to the ALF. It was
               owned originally by someone who has died. Before she died, she gave the password to two
               others she trusted, and those folks gave the password to some others. We believe there are now
               about 8 webmasters in 5 countries, but we can't confirm it. Since this results in more, but
               cluttered, content, we feel the most useful feature of the website is the site's search engine for
               folks wanting to research information on a specific AR topic. Personally, I gave the password
               to this guestbook to two people, who sometimes answer the questions (I assume). I never knew
               them except by email address and their knowledge of the AR issues. Our goal is simply to
               direct people to information, not to create it. Conversations and debate belong in the discussion
               forum. Unfortunately web spammers have found our guestbook and we get 25 posts advertising
               poker web sites for every real post. We've had to install all manner of software governors. Sigh.



               Regarding testing on animals: You are getting your information from the same sources we are.
               My rule-of-thumb is that if a company is on any list, I try to avoid them. I remember one
               company that signed a carefully worded letter stating they no longer did testing on animals, and
               it was latter learned that they "outsourced" the testing.



06 4:39:32pm
               Asha'man


               Also the essay I found was very bias as is all the content you throw at us.

               ALF response: We admit to the bias. The industries we are battling spend billions of dollars
               telling their side of the story. Our web site attempts to show the other side. If you want all sides
               represented, you'll insist that the dairy industry to show a confined veal calf along with their
               "Happy Cows Come from California" nonsense.

               Asha'man: In your photo's you show us the worst picture you can find

               ALF response: Actually, we try to refrain from showing a lot of gory animal abuse photos.
               There are other websites with many thousands of them. If you watch our slide shows you'll see
               that not even 3 years olds would say "ick".

               Asha'man: not the good ones and most of them are fairly old as you haven’t been able to get
               into the newer research facilities as they have to be heavily guarded from eco-terrorists (and
               they are terrorists).
               ALF response: Actually, some of us work in research labs, but don't post photos for the obvious
               reasons. We'd be happy to post your photos with your comments.

               Asha'man: Maybe you should include a section in you website about the good that this research
               is doing, and some nicer photos of places where the animals are kept well till they are used and
               have a comfortable life.

               ALF response: We've never refused to include opposing opinions on our website. We officially
               assign you the task of providing that content.



06 4:15:08pm
               Asha'man


               Yes that essay does raise some very good topics, but I asked your opinion (or the
               websites/whatever you stand for).

               ALF response: We are reporters who report the opinions of others. Our comments are to help
               readers understand what is the ALF, based the credo and the mission statement. We'd prefer
               they read and draw their own conclusions, but many of them don't. Derivitives and corrolaries
               from the credo and mission statement always involve speculation, and hopefully, a logical
               conclusion. The web site contains no articles or opinions written by the webmasters of this site.
               My opinion is that the opinion of one person is not relevant, and tends to confuse. We can help
               you learn about the logic of the AR movement, and the ALF's role in it, if you desire.




06 3:57:55pm
               Asha'man


               Here is a little dilemma for you animal campaigners.
               Your mother or relative (someone you love, coz I know some of you may not like your family,
               that’s off the subject but anyway) comes down with a life threatening disease. Some scientists
               believe that if he could test on 10 apes (killing them in the process) to find a cure to this
               disease, and to cure your loved one, would you allow it to happen. Now take this seriously, if
               your a parent think its your child, would you rather have you child die than 10 apes?
            Now I know this is a surreal situation, but this is what some scientists are doing, they are testing
            to find cures to aids, Cancer (and the new cancer drug that has been released and is a lot more
            effective than the old one, but has been deemed to expensive to use in the NHS (but is still
            under consideration for use). This drug was created using animal testing. This drug is thought
            to be able to save 2 out of every 4 people who die of cancer at the moment, so we are talking
            about saving 1000s of people with this drug from Painful deaths every year. Admittedly 1000s
            of rats and primates died to produce this drug). Now which would you choose? Drug to save
            1000s of lives or the animals that have already died (the drug will also work on pets who get
            cancer, but will be greatly expensive due to no reduction of price by the government)?


            And don’t give me a Bull shit religion theory about god putting us on the earth to look after
            animals, I'm am thoroughly atheist.

            ALF response: Similar scenarios to the one you proposed are discussed brilliantly in the
            following essay:
            http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/MyDogOrYourChild.htm



8:09:18pm
            Malkavian (again, sorry)


            These e-mail campaigns you do... a hint... when you send them out, DONT put on them
            anything like "you must send this to all your friends/20 people" or blah will happen. Not just
            that its annoying and I want to delete it just to spite the people who are insulting my
            intelligence in that way, but it doesnt make any sense. If its a petition, how on earth will you
            find out how many people have signed? youll get loads of dulicate strings. How do you do it?


            ALF response: We agree, although nobody from this web site has ever started an email
            campaign. Our motto is "Deeds, not words." I sometimes think that anti-AR folks put up
            "opinion polls" just to waste our time. Maybe that's just me, being paranoid.



7:59:43pm
            Malkavian

            England
            Jerry Vlasak, different AR group: "I think for five lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives[scientists], we
            could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives, [and on top of that, itll kill even
            more human lives indirectly by stopping the research those scientists were doing into life
            threatening diseases!

            ALF response: To me, those sound like estimates. Do you have more accurate estimate?

            Malkavian: thatll even the scores. Animals to rule the world!!!

            ALF response: That doesn't sound like Dr. Vlasak. I've never heard anyone say "animals to rule
            the world!!!"
            Malkavian: Next time youre in hospital and you see someone using animal tested drugs, JUST
            KILL EVERYONE IN SIGHT! ITLL HELP, REALLY!!!! THINK OF THE LIVES YOULL
            BE SAVING!!]"

            ([ ] means something they didnt actually say and is just implied or, in this case and probably in
            most tabloid newspapers, to make it seem more dramatic :-) )

            ALF response: We appreciate a good melodrama as long as we know it is one.

            Malkavian: I hate people like that. I cant believe there have been people signing this guestbook
            commending things like killing scientists and burning down restaurants. How is that proving
            you are above them?

            ALF response: We don't agree with killing anybody, but we let them post, just like we let folks
            post who say they are going to kill an animal just for us (that's a common post, by the way).


            Malkavian: Also: do you approve of animal testing to save animal lives?

            ALF response: No, because we haven't ever seen proof that it was necessary.

            Malkavian: Ive a feeling that guy wouldve thought that better.
            And please stop answering some people's serious questions with insults about their spelling
            (you even did that to some people who arent from an english speaking country), implying they
            like incest etc.

            ALF response: You're taking statements out of context, and we won't answer questions that are
            not fair and logical. We never implied that anyone liked incest. Someone stated that animals ate
            other animals, so therefore it was okay for them to do the same. We simply pointed out that we
            didn't agree with humans taking their moral code from animals, since animals ate each other
            and had incestuous relations.

            Malkavian: everyones opinion is valid and deserves a response whether you feel they are
            inferior to you or not. We are all the same species- lets talk to each other like human beings.


            ALF response: I disagree. I just deleted a post that wanted to know why "everone who liked
            animals is a 'faggit'".



5:22:31pm
            nick alloway

            england
            sorry i wasnt sure whether u were denying the fact that u made the comment about HLS but
            heres my evidence anyway
            ALF response: We don't concern ourselves with what other AR orgs are doing, so we can't
            comment. We don't follow those stories very closely. In our eyes, every AR org is less than
            perfect, but we focus on the orgs (such as HLS) that are pure evil.
            Furthermore i think you make some good points and thanks for correcting me with regards to
            the post

            But dont you think the so called terrorist activity is damaging your organizations name by
            turning public opinion against you. The media i belive rightly supports the victim in each case
            and therefore portrays alf etc as evil. For example the digging up of a grave of a women
            connected to a guinea pig farm. What was up with that?

            Thanks

            ALF response: The debate about whether direct action helps a cause or hurts a cause has been
            argued among historians and philosophers for decades. There is no conclusive evidence, and
            the debate still rages. We have many articles on our web site (some supporting only "Strategic
            Non-violence"), and there is one novel specifically about the debate surrounding ALF direct
            action: "Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?".

            We hope the outcome of our direct action is similar to the direct actions of folks who protested
            the Vietnam War in the US: The people who threw bottles through windows and stopped traffic
            were hated. But they were instrumental in getting the information on TV, to the masses. This
            will work only if, once a majority of people have seen the horrors of animal abuse, they agree it
            needs to stop. Many folks in AR don't remember the first person who told them what goes on
            behind closed doors -- but few of us can forget what we've seen.




7:43:46pm
            John Basedow


            Glad to hear you do not support abortions for that would be a contradiction on a massive scale.
            So on a different note, i am in a field that improves and educates and enforces animal rights
            laws, i also have to euthanize animals because of over population. Do you accept this as an
            unfortunate reality or am i a murderer in the eyes of the ALF?


            ALF response: In a word, no. Most of us have worked in rescue centers and we know that it can
            be cruel and heartbreaking to leave dogs on the street to starve and/or to be abused. Our rule of
            thumb is some rescuers apply is that if we had to live the life of the dog we'd kill ourselves --
            then they make that choice for the dog.

            There is nothing in our credo or mission statement that would generalize that what you are
            doing is right or wrong. Nor have we ever taken a blanket position on it. In fact, we constantly
            repeat the final statement in our credo: 5. Analyze all ramifications of any proposed action.
            Never apply generalizations when specific information is available.

            It is logically consistent to support euthanasia of humans in some circumstances.

            And, personally, I wouldn't allow any human to have a pet or a child without passing a course
            to guarantee they know what they're doing.
7:12:53pm
            John Basedow


            Of course if the mother life depended on it, glad that very rare situation. So your saying the
            only time you agree with human abortion is if the Mothers life depends on it?. Again that is
            also a very rare situation, thankfully.

            ALF response: The following is from our website.

            Scientific studies have demonstrated that the growing human fetus feels pain and learns about
            the external environment while within. The fetus recognizes songs and voices. The brain works,
            the heart beats, pain receptors feel. How much compassion do animal rights activists emote for
            sentient human infants, not yet born?

            Supporting animal research is a transgression of the laws of nature and an insult to the respect
            of life. This is why Animal Rights activists are so right in the things they protest. Supporting
            abortion for just one of the 4,700 species of mammals is a contradiction in terms against all of
            the good.

            There are anti-abortion people who show no compassion to other living things. They eat
            animals and wear furs and hunt and support animal research. There are also pro-abortion
            people who are vegans and protest animal research and animal abuse of any sort. One must be
            true to a universal truth. Abuse of any living creature is a crime against what I could call
            Universal Wisdom.

            One cannot act passionately against one form of abuse while supporting another and defend
            that action by rationalizing with an excuse of personal convenience.

            The point at which the logic of many animal rights and anti-abortionists diverge is not over
            sentience, but potential. Animal rights advocates do not protect a being based on its potential to
            feel later -- therefore, until a being can feel and think, its rights are limited.




3:47:20pm
            John Basedow


            So about Shaggies comment on abortion and animal rights. I assume because you make excuses
            for killing human life (abortion) you would be fine with opening up a doggie who is pregnant
            and sticking a vaccum in one of the heads of the puppies who is still inside the mother dog and
            sucking its brains out till it's head collapes, just like they do in human abortions. That would be
            ok with you?

            ALF response: It would if the life of the mother dog depended on it.



3:06:43pm
            Matty

            Michigan
            You are a bunch of feel good nuts, playing commando. We are animals. Animals eat and use
            others to sustain their own lives. Perhaps you all should commit suicide. It would free up space,
            natural resources and reduce emissions of green house gases.

            ALF response: Not all animals eat others to sustain life. And even if that were true, we choose
            not to derive our moral code from animals. Do you?



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