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T-Unit # Speaker 344 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Cheryl Lee Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Ed Cheryl Text I mean… Jesus. See I : see where this little thing is? It looks to me like it got wiped out. That’s where I wrote it. Could be. And it looks like somebody copied it somewhere else or did something. That’s not : I don’t remember that at all. Do we have a printout of it? I don’t. I had it and I don’t That’s okay, it’s not really a big thing. We can write it over again. It was a good start. We had the description of the individual communication devices in there Oh, that’s right. You did print it out? Ed printed it out. I printed it out. We all got a copy, and then I … Oh, then I might have it here. You might have it here,. Folded it up Oh, here it is. Exactly, that’s exactly it. She’s got it. Oh, well I didn’t take it out. Okay Well, I’ll just put it in the folder here. Well it’s : okay. Do you want me to read it to you? We’ve eliminated side desks with private workstations. Yes Of course, I can’t … me 22 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Cheryl John John Cheryl Ed ED ED Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl John 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 Ed Cheryl Cheryl John Ed John Cheryl Ed John Cheryl John John Cheryl John Cheryl Cheryl John John 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 41 Ed 42 John 43 Cheryl 44 John 45 Cheryl 46 John 47 John 48 John 49 John 50 John 51 John 52 John 53 John 54 John 55 John 56 John 57 Cheryl 58 John 59 John 60 John 61 62 63 64 Cheryl John John Cheryl 65 Cheryl 66 Cheryl 67 Cheryl 68 Ed 69 ED 70 Cheryl 71 Cheryl 72 Cheryl 73 Ed Yes, we’ve eliminated Wait a minute. I can’t type here and be looking over Yeah, I know what you are saying. We’ve eliminated side desks with private work stations. We’ve preserved central table with built-in public screens. We introduced a personal communications device which includes sketch pad, video capture, keyboard, mouse (or trackball) and the ability to display from remote We’ve added video and audio capture and video link for remote conferencing. We’re using private computers remotely located or portables as the private workstations. The private machines should be whatever platform the user likes. We are now thinking of this as a piece of furniture and not a room. That’s it. Okay. Well, we’re reviewing that for today, I guess to see whether we want to add anything. Did we want to put anything about the number of : there’s some things in here. Oh, the number of people. Yeah, th-at it’s variable; Th-at the number of people is limited only by the size of the table or : is that part of : or are we going to build for six here. Oh, : we don’t want to confine ourselves to build it for six. I think this leaves that open. Well, I mean our software is not very flexible now. Is that one of our goals? Well, no, but in a two year scenario we’ll build it for any number of people. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 74 Cheryl 75 Cheryl 76 Ed 77 Cheryl 78 Cheryl 79 John 80 Cheryl 81 John 82 John 83 84 85 86 John Cheryl Ed Cheryl 87 John 88 John 89 Cheryl 90 Cheryl 91 John 92 Cheryl 93 John 94 John 95 Cheryl 96 Cheryl 97 Cheryl 98 Cheryl 99 Ed 100 Cheryl 101 Ed 102 ED 103 ED 104 ED Okay, so should I put this part in? The size of the table ought to be determined by the installation? Yeah, sure. What else we got? In this part? About a simple way for participants to take and put the results on private Yeah, we would hope th-at that one… Take … We would hope th-at that would be the. I mean for instance you can do it now to some extent. It’s not simple though. But it could be simpler. Meaning it could be Well, your private machine : oh, yeah I see what you’re saying. Okay, click a button and this goes to every private machine. Yeah, that way everybody could see. Okay. So should I close out all of this other stuff? You might want to leave the drawings so we can just pick up other stuff. Well, are we doing this and this? I don’t understand. Are we having a personal communications device or are we having private machines? Well, the personal communications device … Is the private machine? … is probably going to be a private machine. But we also, somewhere in here : maybe it doesn’t say, but there should be the ability to take it back to your private machines offsite. Now, what you’re saying 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 105 ED 106 ED 107 ED 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 Cheryl Cheryl Ed ED Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl 116 Cheryl 117 John 118 John 119 John 120 Ed 121 John 122 John 123 John 124 John 125 Cheryl 126 Ed 127 128 129 130 ED ED Cheryl John 131 Ed 132 John 133 134 135 136 137 John Cheryl Cheryl John John th-at if we implement this work tablet, this personal communications device with a laptop then that could have all of the local processing power and the only thing you would want to get to your office machine would be files … That would be the easiest thing to do wouldn’t it? That’s : and that becomes …. Why don’t you take control and let : I mean, this is : I don’t think we’ve really spelled it out very well here. The way I had seen this personal communications device was it actually belongs to the DCR table, not to the person. Right. Th-at it would be here and then really when you plug in your portable, you’re really only accessing applications and you really only access the hard disk. What is the … Oh, okay, now that’s an interesting idea because then I want that individual communications device, however, to be useful to me as a part of my portable or is that simply… No… That may be an option. Is that used solely to control the public machine? My feeling is it was purely for public interaction. I think that’s the right way. I mean that was my feeling. 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 138 Ed 139 Cheryl 140 Cheryl 141 Ed 142 Cheryl 143 John 144 Cheryl 145 Ed 146 ED 147 ED 148 John 149 Cheryl 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 Cheryl Ed ED Cheryl John John Ed John John 159 John 160 John 161 John 162 John 163 John 164 165 166 167 Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Ed 168 John 169 Ed 170 John 171 John Well certainly … The features th-at allow for all kinds of different input options and output options all ought to be on the public. And the private ought to be… But you’re crippling the private machines. Well, to me the privates are just the privates. The privates … You bring the privates … But suddenly there’s no more symmetry between them. I can’t do here what I can do here.. Well you can always bind them… You can always bind them. Put a Wacom tablet on to your… No, this isn’t a Wacom tablet, this is a … What is this thing? Well, I get the feeling th-at we could make one of these. Yeah. We would literally : I would go to ***, get him to make me a wooden frame th-at I’m going to put a Wacom tablet and a keyboard into as the first prototype of what this thing would actually be. In other words, we won’t be able to buy this, but th-at that would then become a part of this table… How do you attach a Wacom tablet now anyway? Is it like a keyboard? Or is it like a … It’s just a cable. It’s just a cable. Like a series : a parallel. It goes into the back of your machine. Yeah, the readers. The way we do digitizers a lot of times they just plug into the keyboard. 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 172 John 173 Ed 174 Cheryl 175 176 177 178 Ed Cheryl Cheryl John 179 John 180 John 181 Cheryl 182 Cheryl 183 John 184 Cheryl 185 John 186 Ed 187 188 189 190 191 ED Cheryl Ed Cheryl Ed 192 ED 193 ED 194 ED 195 Cheryl 196 Cheryl 197 Cheryl 198 Cheryl 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Cheryl Ed ED ED They sort of : or the keyboard plugs into them. Oh, the back yeah that’s right. Oh, can we do that? The Wacoms plug into the same kind of connector th-at … Well, that’s what I thought. Then they have a connector th-at you can get to plug the keyboard into. In other words there's a sort of serial setup So we can’t just put them all together? Well then you can practice … You could. You can just plug it into portable. No, you can put them all together. Oh, yeah you can plug it into a portable. But then you would have to physically change it from one to another. Or we just need to have more. You put it on your portable Or we just have to have more. But then we’re relying on the sharing software to enable not only the mouse and the keyboard, but also the Wacom tablet to have control of the public screen. That was what I had in mind. On Wednesday, some thinking of : the thinking of the private machines as your private business and so whatever your private machine was, you could outfit it however you wanted to, but that wasn’t the DCR business. So if you had : do you know what I’m saying? I mean, you certainly have all of that, but what you’re doing 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 ED ED Cheryl Cheryl Ed John Cheryl 213 Cheryl 214 Ed 215 John 216 Cheryl 217 Cheryl 218 Ed 219 ED 220 ED 221 Cheryl 222 Ed 223 ED 224 ED 225 Cheryl 226 John 227 Cheryl 228 Cheryl 229 230 231 232 233 Cheryl Ed ED ED ED 234 ED 235 Cheryl 236 Cheryl 237 Cheryl 238 Cheryl 239 Ed is retraining it by saying that. So, well I mean ***VS*** what our product is. **VS** Yeah, and this is … ….and I don’t think our product is enhanced private workstations. Oh, no. They… And so if we want to have this new personal input device, put it on… No, they come in with their private machines. **tape fades out** focusing on their private machines, because they’re plugging their private machines into our network as well... What about if it’s a remote? Then they have to have it out there. If it’s remote, they’re not going to have one of these tablets. Well, but I want them to have one. Yeah. I want the person to be able to come in here and work on the public machine even if they don’t have a machine Now you’re talking about *** you’re remote. And I’m confused are we remote or in here? Are you talking about a remote table? No, you come in here : you don’t even have a machine, but you want to interact on this thing. You want to have the personal input device. Yeah, and part of the personal input device is 240 ED 241 ED 242 ED 243 Cheryl 244 Cheryl 245 Cheryl 246 247 248 249 Ed ED Cheryl Ed 250 ED 251 ED 252 ED 253 ED 254 ED 255 John 256 Ed 257 ED 258 ED 259 ED 260 ED 261 262 263 264 ED John John John 265 John 266 John 267 John 268 Ed 269 John 270 John something which is sitting here which happens to be one of the DCR’s laptops. You know, it’s … Yeah, but why have it on the laptop? That’s what I’m saying. For the simple reason th-at : the laptop computer gives you added functionality and it’s … But you don’t… …you are controlling it, and there’s one technical reason and th-at is that the public machine only has a *** number of these ports. So if you’re going to provide a Wacom protocol, you’re going to have a big network snarl of these…. Right. I mean. ***tape inaudible*** and chaos arises. You give up the sharing capability or the control of turn taking if you plug them in ***tape inaudible*** I think that’s probably the only feasible way to have six Wacoms ***tape inaudible*** everybody would be drawing simultaneously ***tape inaudible*** So you’re saying th-at : I see what you’re saying because the difference then here : we all have individual control to our mouse, but it goes through the private machine and then it is fed into the network. Right. Directly. We’re not feeding directly into that central machine., but so what I was wondering, 271 John 272 John 273 John 274 John 275 John 276 John 277 John 278 Cheryl 279 John 280 John 281 John 282 283 284 285 286 John Cheryl Ed John Ed 287 John 288 John 289 John 290 John 291 292 293 294 John Ed John John 295 John 296 John 297 Cheryl 298 John 299 John 300 John 301 John cause I was figuring in a worst case scenario somebody would come here, Byron Pipes, and he wouldn’t have a PowerBook because he doesn’t carry his PowerBook everywhere. Right? He’s just going to talk to us, and again this was a part of the dream scenario but th-at there was actually going to have to be a small motherboard CPU here. Uh-hmm … th-at at the worst case scenario it could be run with nobody bringing their PowerBook : that’s if we just all bring in a piece of paper. No private machines. No… But there would actually be… …there are private machines. There would actually be private machines : they might be very slow ones, because they’re really only there to power your input device, but they’re not running any applications because all of the applications are running on your central machine. Right. Do you know what I’m saying? So th-at in a worst case scenario I : we all forget our PowerBooks or we just don’t have them … But we can still work. But we could still come and work on something, or we can still open Form Z and we would need an individual control and we really only need that CPU as a means to drive… 302 Cheryl 303 Ed 304 ED 305 ED 306 John 307 Ed 308 309 310 311 ED Cheryl John Cheryl 312 Cheryl Do we really need a separate CPU? Just for that function? Again, unless you’re : unless we invent something new th-at goes on the public machine… Yeah. … how are we going to control access? How are we going to prevent chaos? I don’t know. I would defer your … I guess I would have to answer your question. 313 John 314 Cheryl 315 Cheryl 316 Cheryl 317 Ed 318 Cheryl 319 Ed 320 Cheryl 321 Cheryl 322 Cheryl 323 John 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 John John John John John John John John Cheryl John John 335 Ed 336 John 337 Ed That’s the thing … It just seems like if the only function of six personal computers is to allow : you know allow poll(?) and turn taking from six keyboard’s mice and Sure there might be … Th-at that’s pretty expensive. … there might be a simpler That’s a pretty expensive solution. cost. I mean if we’re trying to sell these things … Well, I guess in my mind we were just running like : in my mind, and I’m not saying th-at I know enough about it, but I was thinking to do that to a 286 board, let’s say th-at you could buy for like $50 is enough to do it. Uhmmm In other words, it’s not like I’m processing anything on it. It might even be enough just to have a separate public machine kind of a gateway machine… Ah-ha Which all of us are plugged into, 338 ED 339 ED 340 Cheryl 341 John 342 Ed 343 ED 344 Cheryl but which says which of us actually gets to play the games on this (bangs on something). So it’s two machines instead of … The smaller. … with some turn taking protocols. That probably is feasible, but again it’s a hardware/software kind of question. Well, I :