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Textual Data (segmented by stanza) "Joe Hill" By Alfred Hayes and Earl Robinson (1936) line # stanza/verse 1 I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night 2 Alive as you and me 3 Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead," 4 "I never died," says he, "I never died," says he. 5 "In Salt Lake, Joe, by God," says I 6 Him standing by my bed, 7 "They framed you on a murder charge." 8 Says Joe, "But I ain't dead," says Joe, "But I ain't dead." 9 "The copper bosses shot you, Joe, "They killed you, Joe," 10 says I. 11 "Takes more than guns to kill a man," 12 Says Joe, "I didn't die," says Joe, "I didn't die." 13 And standing there as big as life 14 And smiling with his eyes 15 Joe says, "What they forgot to kill 16 Went on to organize, went on to organize." 17 "Joe Hill ain't dead," he says to me, 18 "Joe Hill ain't never died. 19 Where workingmen are out on strike Joe Hill is at their side, Joe Hill is at 20 their side." 21 "From San Diego up to Maine 22 In every mine and mill Where workers strike and 23 organize," 24 Says he, "You'll find Joe Hill," says he, "You'll find Joe Hill." Conversational Data (segmented by t-unit) T-Unit # Speaker Text 1 Cheryl This is a little cumbersome 2 John Very I don’t know how anybody else 3 Cheryl would find it. Well we’re using specialized 4 Ed knowledge(?) 5 John But that’s just our directory : 6 John that’s just our directory structure. Yeah, it needs to be ***voice 7 Cheryl subsumed** 8 Ed I would suggest th-at we each sort of brainstorm 9 ED individually : 10 ED at least that’s what I would like to do first : just get a few things on my private 11 ED unit and then with this open one we 12 ED can then write with it … 13 Cheryl Should we talk about this stuff … 14 Ed It’s a three column … 15 Cheryl A little bit … 16 John No actually that’s … To remember this? I don’t 17 Cheryl remember 18 Cheryl what we said last week. 19 John Well, I think th-at we should go over this, all 20 John right, 21 John but I think th-at 22 Ed All right 23 John The way share*** normally go is there is a time for individuals to come up with ideas and then 24 John group … 25 Ed Right and then group, group back and 26 John try to go over them. 27 John So I think 28 John that’s not a bad idea. 29 John Normally, we specify a time line. 30 Cheryl Ah, we need a time line 31 Ed Oh, establish a time line. 32 Cheryl Okay, you take control 33 Cheryl and let’s write this out. 34 Ed Let’s do that. 35 John Okay, so let’s talk just so 36 John th-at we don’t so 37 John th-at we know how much time 38 John th-at we have. Now, take control and write it in 39 Cheryl here. 40 John Oh, okay. Don’t you get a pen out – come 41 Cheryl on! 42 Ed He’ll have to interrupt 43 Cheryl That’s all right. 44 Ed Okay 45 Cheryl You can put it in that file 46 Cheryl if you want to. 47 Cheryl Are you four, Ed? 48 Ed Yeah, I’m four. 49 John That’s me now in control. 50 Cheryl Yeah 51 Ed Yeah, that’s you in control 52 John So, should I … Yeah, you can close out all of 53 Cheryl those windows. 54 John Just get that one on top : 55 John we’ve got two days. 56 Cheryl That’ll work 57 John We’ve got two days 58 John so we’ve got Wednesday : Now, maybe the goal is to have a 59 Cheryl draft … 60 John Right. A draft of the proposal : about five pages? Maybe more than 61 Cheryl that. 62 Ed What ever turns out. I mean something : something of 63 Cheryl that : 64 Cheryl I’m just trying to think about how much time we have to leave 65 Cheryl to actually create this. Okay, so are we going to look at 66 John the MDL as a means to do this or are we just going to look at 67 John general. 68 Cheryl Well we don’t have that stuff yet 69 Cheryl from Gary do we? 70 Ed No 71 John No, so we really don’t know 72 John what their set up is. 73 Cheryl I mean we have some vague ideas 74 Cheryl about limitations : 75 Cheryl I mean reasons th-at this doesn’t seem right for them : like size and shape and 76 Cheryl things like that. 77 John Right. 78 Cheryl So we could : all *** criteria 79 Ed We could ask them what they really think is 80 ED important, 81 ED what their requirements are. 82 Cheryl I mean 83 Cheryl I think th-at there’s a little bit of negotiation 84 Cheryl possible there too. 85 Ed So I think 86 ED th-at we ought to go with what we think is really the most 87 ED exciting new version … 88 Cheryl I mean, 89 Cheryl you see that thing 90 Cheryl th-at says “deliverable” up there. Here comes : here comes our 91 Ed guy. 92 ??? Oh, geez that’s fast. 93 John Yeah. 94 Cheryl Right there? Let’s see if I can get my ghost cursor over 95 Cheryl there. It’s not getting any cooler in here 96 ??? this morning *** more what you know about 97 ??? the machines. 98 Cheryl Okay, I’m ghost cursor six : 99 Cheryl see that “deliverable”? 100 Ed Uhm A draft of a proposal for the 101 Cheryl second generation. 102 John Ah-ha 103 Cheryl I think 104 Cheryl that’s a good thing : 105 Cheryl if we can say we’re going to give something to Gary or something to Leahy(?) or 106 Cheryl something to Marone(?) : 107 Cheryl I mean, 108 Cheryl we’d have a final draft. 109 Ed I think what we want to do is present a 110 ED product with this and then if we : 111 ED if you think 112 ED it is important then we should pick an audience 113 ED like the dean of engineering. 114 Cheryl Yeah 115 Ed Fine : but I suspect th-at we’re going to want to adapt this 116 ED to each of the sites. 117 Cheryl Right, but it’s sort of, 118 Cheryl you know, just a target. 119 Cheryl I mean it’s not an NSF proposal which is 120 Cheryl 30 pages. 121 Cheryl You know 122 Cheryl what I’m saying. It gives you some sort of idea of 123 Cheryl what … 124 Ed I think the point is th-at there are many 125 ED future directions of the DCR- 126 John Right, so I … 127 Ed And we’re going to move in 128 ED and we may simply categorize. So you see more than one type 129 Cheryl of DCR? And then we may decide to focus 130 Ed on one? You see more than one kind of 131 Cheryl DCR? 132 Ed Sure 133 John That’s 134 John what I’m so far … 135 Cheryl I don’t know 136 Cheryl if I do. 137 John Hmm? 138 Cheryl I don’t know 139 Cheryl if I do. 140 John Well, that’s why 141 John I think what 142 John we need to do here … 143 Cheryl That may be : makes it too complex for us to 144 Cheryl handle. Well, no, as long as we 145 Ed enumerate them 146 ED then we have to chose. 147 Cheryl Oh, okay. yeah, the reason th-at the 148 Joyhn individual *** is important is because the : what often 149 John happens is you go and sort of collect 150 John everybody’s concerns 151 John and it’s not just ***, 152 John it’s th-at 153 John it’s a whole bunch to get lost because whoever speaks first 154 John get their … 155 Cheryl Sure 156 John on the table. So I think 157 John it’d be well worth 158 John us taking thirty minutes. 159 Cheryl Is that the individual? 160 Ed As … 161 John yes 162 Ed as a general process … 163 Cheryl Brainstorming 164 Ed you don’t want to lose people … 165 Cheryl So it’s 8:30 now 166 Cheryl so that’s until 9:00? from the conversation ***voice 167 Ed subsumed*** on that table. That gives us until 9:00 to identify 168 John issues th-at we would see from our 169 John particular viewpoints. 170 Cheryl So we want to put that in this 171 John That’s right … 172 John that’s We want to put it working on the 173 Cheryl schedule. 174 John that’s why : 175 John that’s why : 176 John so that’s why : 177 John that’s why 178 Cheryl Just put 9:00 in front of there : so that’s what we do until 9:00. 179 Cheryl Okay. 180 John Oh, I 181 Cheryl Command Z 182 John I hit the wrong key. 183 John I didn’t control it. 184 John I guess 185 John I should … 186 Cheryl Right, it’s the apple. 187 Ed it’s a keyboard problem. Right, and we have a platform 188 Cheryl problem. 189 John Okay. 190 Cheryl If we’ve got platform problems – we got Macintoshes to talk with 191 Cheryl PCs yesterday and share files. 192 John Yeah? 193 Ed Well 194 Cheryl Something called MacLand : 195 Cheryl you put it on a PC and then … 196 John Yeah, they say th-at Net … Apparently nobody else on 197 Cheryl campus has done this. 198 Ed Really? 199 Cheryl Yes, we’re the first. We had Don Moore over there to 200 Cheryl do it 201 Cheryl and he said 202 Cheryl th-at it’s never been done 203 Cheryl and I said 204 Cheryl what kind of stupid place is it? Right. That’s not uncommon at 205 Ed all outside of Rensselaer. 206 Cheryl Yeah, right 207 John Even we’re … 208 Ed I mean obviously 209 ED there was a product 210 ED th-at did it right off the bat. 211 Cheryl No, I mean 212 Cheryl it’s : 213 Cheryl you know, the icon for the files – 214 Cheryl I mean for the hard disk 215 Cheryl shows up on both machines. 216 Ed Oh that’s nice 217 John Yeah, because I know th-at in mesh ware(?) would have brought Macintoshes and : 218 John Novell. 219 Cheryl Yeah, right. 220 John … what they’re working : 221 John they used this all the time … 222 Cheryl Yeah 223 John I guess 224 John it just goes to show you people on this campus get stuck 225 John on one platform. Yeah, but no department has just 226 Cheryl one kind of machine.. 227 Ed No, heavens. 228 Cheryl Unless it’s management.. 229 Ed We have four or five kinds. 230 Cheryl Identify three goals? 231 John Well, lets assume 232 John we get a lot of different. 233 Cheryl So, select one? 234 John Select, yes … one for : what do you mean by 235 Cheryl goals? 236 Cheryl I mean, major goals? 237 John I guess 238 John I’m looking 239 John th-at we might get : th-at we might get a lot of 240 John proposals and th-at we might not be able to 241 John get to them all today. 242 Cheryl Uh-hmm 243 Ed Sure So, maybe we should look at 244 John them … …but I mean are these like three different DCRs? Or three aspects of a single second 245 Cheryl generation … 246 Ed I think 247 ED we’ll find that out. 248 John That’s what 249 John I was going to say : we may all end up with the same 250 John vision 251 John and then we have three issues … So that should take about a half 252 Cheryl hour? 253 John Well, I think 254 John that’ll actually be the process. 255 John I think maybe we should leave that from 9:00- 256 John 12:00. We don’t develop any of those 257 Cheryl goals? 258 John Yeah, we select and develop. Maybe we should say select and 259 John develop 3 goals. 260 Cheryl I mean 261 Cheryl I think th-at we : by ten o’clock we ought to start 262 Cheryl developing and then we have two hours to 263 Cheryl develop today. What is develop? 264 Cheryl Well, do we have any sense of what that means? 265 Cheryl Sketch? 266 John well I think th-at … 267 Cheryl criteria … 268 John I think th-at 269 John we’ll end up debating … 270 Ed We’ll find out 271 ED when we do it 272 Cheryl Yeah. 273 John The first stage is th-at we’ll end up debating the 274 John relevance of something. 275 John So if somebody, you know, 276 John we’ll have to figure out 277 John whether it is important. 278 Cheryl Yeah. 279 John And if it turns out 280 John th-at it is important, 281 John and I guess 282 John that’s what the 9:00-10:00 will be 283 John is to say is this … 284 Cheryl Should we do this. … a valuable. So that’s 285 John evaluation So then do we want to map out 286 Cheryl tomorrow’s schedule? 287 John Yes, Friday’s, yes. 288 Cheryl I mean Friday’s schedule? Isn’t it nice just to go away to this 289 Cheryl place? 290 John Yeah. Stuff at your office is going on at 291 Cheryl you. 292 Ed Yeah 293 John It’s like a little retreat 294 Ed It is a retreat 295 Cheryl I don’t know 296 Cheryl what I would do without this place 297 John that’s what 298 John it should be. 299 Ed that’s really 300 John what it should be 301 Cheryl I wouldn’t get anything done I went and hid in the alumni 302 Ed house for a little bit yesterday. 303 ED It was great. 304 Cheryl Just? There was a faculty counsel 305 Ed meeting over there … 306 Cheryl so you went early or stayed late? 307 Ed So, I went early. They have a nice little library 308 ED there. 309 Cheryl Oh, it’s beautiful over there. 310 Ed Nobody’s there. 311 Cheryl No, nobody is ever there. 312 John Yeah, I often … In fact, I once tried to have a 313 Cheryl meeting in there, in that library … 314 Ed And they wouldn’t let you.
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