Edinburgh Users Forum
5 December 2009
McDonald Road Library
1. Present: Maurice, Gordon, Steven, Helen, David, Sara, Jenifer,
Rachel, Hazel, Rosemary, Tamsin, Maggie, Keith (CAPS), Naomi
2. Apologies: Linda
3. The Chair reminded everyone about EUF’s rules on ‘How We
4. Last Minutes
The last minutes were approved.
5. Matters Arising
Direct Payments – this mean that money comes directly to you,
instead of going from the Council to the organisation who provides
you with a service.
AOCB – the meeting will be stopped 15 minutes before the end to
deal with AOCB.
Development Groups – Ballenden House and the Inverleith Unit
are both holding meetings this week to explain to service users
about the ideas for the new Development Groups.
Ballenden House – Tuesday 8th December 12 pm at the Engine
Inverleith Unit – Thursday 10th 2pm at the Inverleith Unit
Christmas Fair – there is a Christmas Fair at the Royal Edinburgh
Hospital on Friday 11th December from 10am – 2pm.
6. EUF in 2009
Day Services Review – CAPS and EUF went around Edinburgh
asking service users if day services were appropriate. 75 people
were interviewed and there were lots of questionnaires filled in.
Keith has been attending the group since this review was carried
out but there has not been much progress since.
EUF Executive Training – CAPS ran 6 training sessions for people
who were interested in joining the EUF Executive.
Oor Mad History – research project which highlights what’s been
done in Lothian by the service user movement. “Really brilliant
project.” Collects notes of meetings, photographs and interviews
with people who were involved. There is a plan to have a book,
exhibition and archive and the project is funded until December
IHTT – This service was introduced just over a year ago. CAPS
needs to speak to people who have had contact with the service.
It was pointed out that we also need to speak to people who
haven’t been able to access the IHTT and MHAS.
Re-provisioning of the Royal Edinburgh Hospital – there is very
little support from service users for a move to the RIE site. There
has been talk about having a new hospital since 1986 and we still
don’t seem to be any nearer. Money is very limited at the moment.
Personality Disorder Toolkit – the project talked to over 30 people
who had experience of personality disorder and launched a
resource aimed at staff at the CAPS AGM.
Development Groups – North East Edinburgh is now the only area
that does not have a Development Group set up, there are groups
set up or in the process of being set up in all other CMHT areas.
Information Pack – there have been two information packs
developed one for people who are in hospital and one for people
who are getting treatment in the community. EUF members and
CAPS have been involved in this and it should be available soon.
Review of the Mental Health Act – EUF met to discuss this and
CAPS submitted feedback, but there hasn’t been an official report
Direct Payments – somebody came from the LCIL to talk about
Direct Payments and answer EUF members’ questions.
7. EUF in 2010
Topics which will be discussed next year:
Short Breaks – John Armstrong has asked for more ideas about
how these could work
Psychiatric Liaison Officers – EUF would like to invite one to speak
at a meeting
Rights and Wrongs of Compulsory Treatment
The relationship between service users and carers and more
contact with the Carers Council
Somebody raised the issue of housing for people with mental
health issues when they get older. Current housing provision is
not geared up to support people in this situation.
It was suggested that this information was discussed at the EUF
executive and Rosemary will provide information so that we can
think about writing to the housing department.
Maggie announced her retirement from EUF. She is going to work
for the Red Cross.
9. Care and Support Tender
The City of Edinburgh Council has put Care and Support services
out to tender. After a lot of lobbying from service user groups this
has been put on hold at the moment, while an independent
investigation is held into the whole process.
10. Next Meeting
The next meeting is on 09 December 2010. The topic of the next
meeting will be compulsory treatment, people’s experiences of this
and what we can do about this.
11. Vote of Thanks
To Maggie for all the work she has put in over the years for EUF.