FACULTY SENATE COUNCIL MINUTES
March 10, 2010
Advising and Counseling
Jeanne Strieck Science
Business/Intra-American Studies/Social Guy Hamilton
Sciences Amar Yahiaoui
Betsey Barnett FACTC Rep
Georgia Pierce Library/Media Services
1. Approval of Minutes
Minutes of 2/24 were approved with clarification of wording for suggestion of coding undecided
students effectively and adding Jo McEntire’s name to the attendence list . The minutes for
2/10 were approved as written.
2. Approval of Agenda
Two items were added to the agenda: request for Emeritus Status and Advising Memo to John
Backes. Agenda was approved as modified.
3. Faculty Emeritus Status
Helen Hancock will be retiring at the end of Winter Quarter. She has requested approval of
Emeritus Status. It was moved to grant her Emeritus Status. MSP Amy/Betsey
4. Advising Memo to John Backes
It was agreed that Guy will send out the memo once more with some recommended changes
and ask for an email approval tomorrow.
5. Open Comment
Betsey announced that BUS/IAS/SS will be having an advising day on Wednesday, May 5 during
their classes. Classes will not be cancelled but advising will be held so students can get advising
and learn what advising means. She invited others to share the idea with their divisions and
perhaps join in on Advising Day.
6. Residency requirements for students in the 5 college consortium
Lee asked that the Faculty Senate Council weigh in with their thoughts about a Consortium of
Everett, Edmonds, Lake Washington, Cascadia and Shoreline which would allow students to
move freely between these colleges.
Discussion includes issues of the application for admission process, residency requirements,
international student’s requirements and the fact that visas are linked to the college that they
apply to, differences in basic skills programs, financial aid, standardized DTA, and other student
Currently Shoreline’s residency requirement to be granted a degree or certificate from Shoreline
is to take at least 25 credits at Shoreline and to have their last credits earned at Shoreline. The
students currently can take credits at other colleges and get a degree at Shoreline. These
residency requirements are not the same at all the colleges.
Lee would like input by next month so something can be crafted by the five colleges by
It was felt that this is an attempt to get ahead of the legislation that is requiring colleges to look
at efficiencies of administrative complementary functions and programs in the region. It was
stated that the legislation refers to administrative functions such Human Resources and
Business Offices not moving students between colleges. This legislation also requires college
presidents to involve stakeholders meaning faculty and staff.
Faculty had many questions. What is efficiency? Is moving students even efficient? Every
system at every college would need to be tweaked. They wanted to know why Shoreline should
consider a 5 college consortium. If the same class was offered at two colleges and they both
had low enrollment, which class would be allowed to go.
The council felt that if they are asking to approve something generally, this doesn’t work. They
would need specific proposals to look at. Faculty and Staff must be included in the discussions
with the other campuses.
7. Discussion of the make-up of the Curriculum Committee
Questions of membership on the Curriculum Committee were raised. Why are there three
administrators on the committee who are voting members? Why are administrators allowed to
be co-chairs of this committee? Curriculum is under the purview of faculty. The accreditation
report has to show that faculty are in control of curriculum and that they set the standards.
There is value in having administrators attend these meetings, but they should be non-voting
and non co-chairs. Guy will take the issue to John and see what he says and bring it back to the
Faculty Senate Council.
8. Discussion of Faculty Senate role and SCC reorganization
Faculty expressed frustration in this current process. They have asked to be included, but it
hasn’t happened. The Budget Committee and Strategic Planning Committee have not been
consulted on anything. The division meetings that were held to give input were not successful
because the deans didn’t know what was being considered. Maybe the Faculty Senate Council
should be allowed to have someone attend the PSET meetings.
Guy would like the council to begin to think about how Shoreline should look in the future.
Betsey mentioned that the idea of a learning college is something we should explore. Guy
indicated that Kenny will attend our first April meeting to talk about what it means to be a
learning college. It includes building community, building morale and it will pay off for students.
9. Next Meeting
The all-campus meeting will be held on Friday, March 12 and input can be given prior to the
April 2 all-campus meeting. Because this is the end of the quarter with finals and a break, there
isn’t time to discuss the reorganization plan unless the council meets on March 31. It was
agreed to add a meeting on Wednesday, March 31. This could be a time when the council could
explore how to map processes to find inefficiencies.
Meeting adjourned at 4:00p.