Multi-Jurisdictional Solid Waste Task Group
Monday, 17 May 2004 9:00 a.m. – 11:00 a.m.
County of Santa Solvang Veterans Center, 1745 Mission Drive, Solvang
Dan Secord, MD
City of Santa
Carlos Aguilera Members
City of Guadalupe
Lupe Alvarez Lupe Alvarez, City of Guadalupe
City of Guadalupe Jean Blois, City of Goleta
Dick DeWees, City of Lompoc
City of Goleta
Iya Falcone, City of Santa Barbara
Goleta Sanitary Greg Gandrud, City of Carprinteria
District Gail Marshall, County of Santa Barbara
Dick DeWees Alice Patino, City of Santa Maria
City of Lompoc Naomi Schwartz, County of Santa Barbara
Dan Secord, MD, City of Santa Barbara
City of Santa
Mike Siminski, City of Lompoc
Greg Gandrud Jonny Wallis, City of Goleta
City of Carpinteria
City of Santa Maria
City of Santa Maria Marlene Demery, City of Solvang
Naomi Schwartz Phil Demery, County of Santa Barbara
County of Santa Paul Karp, City of Santa Maria
Everett King, County of Santa Barbara
City of Lompoc
Jim Laponis, County of Santa Barbara
Ed Skytt Stephen MacIntosh, City of Santa Barbara
City of Solvang David McDermott, County of Santa Barbara
Bill Traylor John McInnes, County of Santa Barbara
City of Buellton Tony Nisich, City of Santa Barbara
Jonny Wallis Lori Norton, County of Santa Barbara
City of Goleta
Mark Schleich, County of Santa Barbara
City of Buellton
Homer Smith, City of Santa Barbara
Claudia Stine, City of Lompoc
Leslie Wells, County of Santa Barbara
Local Control Tom Churau, VAFB
Regional Carl Engel, Engel and Gray
Services Thomas Gibbons
Waste Diversion Patrick Maloy, VAFB
David White, Granite Construction Co.
Dr. Secord convened the meeting at 9:05 a.m. Introductions were made.
Councilwoman Falcone moved to adopt the minutes of the February 23, 2004 Multi-
Jurisdictional Solid Waste Task Group (MJSWTG) meeting. Councilwoman Wallis
seconded the motion, which was approved with Supervisor Schwartz abstaining.
John McInnes reported that to date the County Board of Supervisors and City Councils
for all the member jurisdictions, with the exception of the City of Goleta, had received
presentations on the MJSWTG’s recommendations and approved the conceptual Long-
Term Solid Waste Plan (Plan). The City of Goleta’s City Council is scheduled to
consider the Plan the evening of the date of this meeting (May 17, 2004).
Dr. Secord noted that there appeared to be some controversy at the last Technical
Advisory Committee (TAC) meeting regarding the City of Santa Barbara’s commitment
to Conversion Technology. Tony Nisich indicated that the City’s staff felt the priority
should be on implementing the easier, less expensive components of the Plan.
Councilwoman Falcone thought there was a difference of opinion over terminology, and
that Conversion was viewed as a long-term goal, whereas other components of the plan
could be implemented sooner. Phil Demery added that cost effectiveness and diversion
are among the guiding principles, and that while a local Materials Recovery Facility
(MRF) was cost effective, is would not yield significant additional diversion.
Councilwoman Wallis felt that from the start of the MJSWTG process it was clear that
each jurisdiction would set its own priorities, and saw no problem with the City of Santa
Barbara determining what its priorities were. Supervisor Schwartz responded that the
MJSWTG effort was a collaborative partnership for the reason that many aspects of solid
waste management are larger than any one jurisdiction could reasonably address.
Councilwoman Falcone reiterated that each jurisdiction is of course free to set its own
Tony Nisich made a brief presentation on the status of MarBorg’s Construction and
Demolition (C&D) recycling facility. MarBorg will be constructing a $12 million cover
structure for the facility, which will process up to 750 tons per day of C&D debris. The
City of Santa Barbara granted an extension to its Franchise Agreement with MarBorg,
allowing MarBorg to finance the project. Supervisor Marshall asked if there was going
to be an educational component to the new facility. Tony responded that a viewing deck
that would allow visitors to watch the sorting operations was part of the project. Paul
Karp asked what tipping fee MarBorg was charging for C&D materials brought to its
facility. The County and MarBorg have an agreement setting a minimum tipping fee,
which is currently $58.00/ton. This facility, which was possible through negotiations
with the City and County of Santa Barbara, contributes approximately one third of the
County’s 62% diversion rate. Supervisor Schwartz asked about the future of the Goleta
recycling facility that MarBorg recently purchased from the Community Environmental
Council (CEC). It is thought that the flow to this facility is too small to significantly
impact recycling operations at the South Coast Recycling and Transfer Station (SCRTS).
John McInnes reported on the work of the TAC. Responding to a request at the last
MJSWTG meeting, a matrix titled MJSWTG Long-Term Plan & Participating
Jurisdictions was distributed, showing which jurisdictions were interested in the
component elements of the Plan. Both HHW Facility & Electronic Waste Recycling and
C&D Model Ordinances are supported by all jurisdictions. Paul Karp noted that the
absence of an “x” for a particular jurisdiction and Plan element does not necessarily
indicate a lack of interest. Councilwoman Falcone found the matrix helpful, and
suggested that each jurisdiction prioritize its goals prior to reconfiguring the matrix.
New facility/program subgroups are being formed to move planning into the next phase,
and letters have been sent out to prospective chairs. The TAC will develop a
standardized format the subgroups will use in their work. The TAC will report on the
progress of the new subgroups at the next MJSWTG meeting. Dr. Secord noted the
absence of a Biosolids subgroup. John responded that the Biosolids subgroup had
identified the Engel and Gray Regional Composting facility as a short-term solution, and
that the biosolids stream could be managed through a conversion technology.
Supervisor Schwartz asked Councilman Gandrud what the City of Carpinteria’s
perspective on the Long-Term Plan. E.J. Harrison and Sons, operating out of Ventura
County currently provides the City of Carpinteria with its solid waste services, but the
City is interested in keeping its options open for the future. He also noted that the City of
Carpinteria does not consider a C&D ordinance to be a priority, as indicated in the
current matrix discussed above, and that an “x” should be placed under Commercial
Recycling, which the City does consider a priority.
Patrick Maloy was recently the recipient of a White House “Closing the Circle” Award
for his recycling work at Vandenberg Air Force Base (VAFB). VAFB is currently
conducting a cost/benefit study on the proposed closure of its landfill.
The Base is in the process of converting many of its facilities to private commercial uses.
The California Space Authority is sponsoring the commercial development plan to bring
aerospace firms onto the Base. The Air Force is under restrictions that prohibit it from
imposing conditions on commercial uses. The Air Force will be responsible for
decommissioning several launch complexes. Private contractors will then remove the
C&D debris off base. Paul Karp noted that VAFB’s C&D production could have a huge
impact on the County’s solid waste management systems, and he felt the Base needed to
play a prominent role in the C&D subgroup. Claudia Stine agreed and added that the
potential closure of the Base’s landfill and the anticipated generation of huge amounts of
C&D debris as a result of launch complex demolition is of greatest concern to the City of
Lompoc, whose landfill could be most impacted. Dr. Secord asked Jim Laponis if the
MJSWTG could draft a letter to the Base Commander raising these important concerns,
and encouraging the Base to designate a representative as a co-convener of the C&D
subgroup. In addition, it was suggested that letters be sent to Representatives Lois Capps
and Elton Gallegly as well, regarding solid waste issues arising from Federal facilities.
Supervisor Marshall moved that the MJSWTG send letters to VAFB and Representatives
Capps and Gallegly, citing concerns over the potential impact the closure of the Base’s
landfill and decommissioning of launch complexes on the County’s solid waste
management systems. The motion was unanimously approved.
Supervisor Schwartz moved to receive and accept the matrix and new subgroup
configurations, as presented. The motion was unanimously approved.
John McInnes distributed a handout titled “Technical Issues Affecting Governance”.
Governance issues was explored earlier in the MJSWTG process by a working group of
City Administrators, who determined at the time that pursuing the matter was premature.
At this stage however, governance is more relevant to the process.
Supervisor Schwartz moved to direct the TAC to gather information on governance
issues, incorporating the work done earlier by County Counsel. Councilwoman Wallis
seconded the motion, adding that she wanted the TAC to report back on this issue at the
August 2004 MJSWTG meeting. Supervisor Schwartz further added that the County
split issue, scheduled for a March 2006 ballot, will impact on this question. The motion
was unanimously approved.
The issue of future MJSWTG meeting schedules was taken up. Staff suggested a
quarterly meeting schedule. Supervisor Schwartz found the future agenda items box on
the meeting agendas to be helpful.
Supervisor Schwartz moved that the MJSWTG move to a quarterly meeting schedule.
Dr. Secord seconded the motion, which was unanimously approved.
Under public comment, Bob Engel noted that the Biosolids Subgroup had identified
composting as a preferred management method.
The meeting adjourned at 10:26 a.m.
Monday, May 17, 2004,
9:00 a.m. to 11:00