JOINT COMMITTEE ON SUPERANNUATION
Monday 26 March
Cabinet Office, Priestley House, Priestley Road, Basingstoke
Karen Cadman (Chair)
Sandie Woods (minutes)
Trade Union Side
Neil Walsh (Prospect)
Chris Haswell (PCS)
Apologies – John Allison (FDA), Rob O’Neill (FDA), Naomi Cooke (GMB),
Adrian Dottridge (Cabinet Office)
1 Matters arising from last meeting (28/11/2011)
1.1 (Item 1.7) TUS to send official confirmation that the National Trade Union
Committee has replaced the CCSU. This is still an outstanding action.
1.2 (Item 1.8) Pension sharing and the CSCS (see agenda item 3)
1.3 (Item 3.2) The Amendment Scheme was laid on 26/03/2012. OS thanked
TUS for their input.
1.4 (Item 5.3) OS to supply clarity on injury benefit whilst on detached duty. OS
to write direct to FDA.
2 Contributions increase
2.1 OS confirmed that the vast majority of employers have reported that they are
ready to deduct extra employee contributions in April salaries. Letters are
being sent to all members. MyCSP and employers will be issued with Q&A
packs to help respond to employee questions.
2.2 TUS will keep OS aware of any issues raised by members.
3 Civil Service Compensation Scheme
3.1 Allowances – OS are proposing to issue guidance to employers and MyCSP
about the circumstances in which allowances should count towards the pay
figure used to calculate compensation. OS consulted NTUC on a form of
words and asked for comments by 20 March 2012. TUS confirmed that they
had no comments.
3.2 Pension sharing – OS said that as pension sharing is a complex area they are
now seeking further legal advice to ensure that the current approach is
correct. OS will keep TUS notified.
3.3 Injury benefit – OS has replied direct to FDA confirming that someone who
suffers a qualifying injury and then leaves on voluntary exit terms is potentially
eligible for injury benefit.
3.4 Actuarial reduction and PILON – OS confirmed that they had responded to a
query on this in December. TUS to come back if any further issues.
3.5 OS shared with TUS an employment tribunal judgement on direct age
discrimination. The judgement was that there was no case. TUS thanked OS
for sharing the judgement.
4.1 OS confirmed that the cap has expired. OS propose to send a HR Directors
letter to ensure that future payments are not capped. A monitoring regime will
be implemented until a longer term solution is found. OS confirmed that the
Government does not have any plans to lay a further Order to re-introduce the
5.1 It was agreed that Partnership would be a standing agenda item. Action OS
5.2 OS confirmed that post 2002 members will still have the option to opt out of
the main scheme and into Partnership. Members joining before that date do
not have such an option and there is currently no intention to change this
5.3 OS to share the quarterly Partnership optants figures with TUS. (It is not
possible to split the figures between new starters and existing members)
6 Salary abatement
6.1 This issue was raised on behalf of POA as it impacts mostly on pre-fresh start
prison officers. OS confirmed that the scheme rules do not provide for salary
to be abated in circumstances where, following an option by the member to
exchange pension for a higher than standard lump sum, the calculation
produces a reduction amount higher than the pension payable.
6.2 OS will liaise with Capita and employers to ensure that any cases where
salary has been abated in these circumstances are identified, abatement
ceases, and salary is reimbursed where necessary. OS are considering how
the rules might be amended to reflect the policy on this area. NTUC will be
consulted on any proposed rule amendments.
7 EPN 318
7.1 TUS had asked why EPN318, which contained slides on pension changes,
was removed from the website. OS confirmed that the slides had had a slight
wording amendment and were now again available.
8 Inverse commutation
8.1 FDA had requested that inverse commutation be made available to classic
plus members. OS confirmed that there are no plans to amend the rules and
had written to FDA to that effect on 21 March.
9 Any other business
9.1 TUS asked for more information regarding the qualification of the Civil
Superannuation Resource Accounts for 2010/11. OS confirmed that the
qualification was due to a timing issue, NAO had been unable to obtain the
evidence they needed to complete the audit in the time available. SME and
MyCSP are currently continuing the work started by NAO but do not have final
results yet. OS will notify TUS of outcome of the work.
9.2 The JCS discussed an issue around the Northern Ireland Civil Service and
transfer of service.
10 Date of next meeting
10.1 The next meeting is scheduled to be held in the week beginning 2 July 2012.