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									The Bible, From God or Man?

                                 John Oakes
     Churgdu Church of Christ Campus Ministry
                                     3/1/2012
         A Typical Attitude We Hear:


Delos B. McKown:

     “Christianity is scientifically
unsupported and probably insupportable,
philosophically suspect at best and
disreputable at worst, and historically
fraudulent.”
“基督教是沒有科學的根據,在哲學上
是被受質疑的,名譽是不好的與及有
歷史欺詐的成份。”
        Proposition #1 論點一

The Bible is scientifically unsupported and
probably insupportible
基督教是沒有科學的根據
Papyrus Ebers埃伯斯紙草文稿
 The Ebers Papyrus         埃伯斯紙草文稿 :

“To prevent hair from turning gray, anoint
it with the blood of a calf which has been
boiled in oil or with the fat of a
rattlesnake.”
要防止頭髮變白,需要塗一些小牛 的血,而那些血是要加
在油及響尾蛇的脂肪中煮沸的。

“A mixture of six fats, namely those of the
horse, the hippopotamus, the crocodile, the
cat, the snake and the ibex.... to prevent
hair loss.”
要混合六種脂肪:馬、河馬、鱷魚 、貓、蛇及野山羊 …..來防
止失掉頭髮
Drugs of Choice included 藥物選擇包括:

•   Lizards blood 蜥蜴血
•   Swine’s teeth 豬牙
•   Putrid meat 腐爛的肉
•   Moisture from Pigs’ ears 豬耳的水分
•   Excreta from animals including human
    beings, donkeys, antelope, dogs, cats and
    flies 動物的排泄物包括人、驢 、羚羊 、狗、
    貓及蒼蠅
“I will not bring on you any of
these diseases...”   Exodus 15:26
“我就不將所加與埃及人的疾病加在你身
上……”          出埃及記 15:26



“The pig... is unclean for
you...those that walk on their
paws...the weasel, the rat...are
unclean for you.”       Leviticus 11
“豬 … 就 與 你 們 不 潔 淨 … 用 掌 行 走 的 …鼬 鼠 、
鼫 鼠… 是 與 你 們 不 潔 淨 。”          利未記 11
“The sting of a hornet is healed by
the house-fly, crushed and applied to
the wound.”
“被大黃蜂刺傷了,是用壓碎的蒼蠅塗在傷口上。”

“The gnat, feeble creature, taking in
food but never secreting it is a
specific against the poison of the
viper.”                            “
蚊子,微弱的生物,進食但不會排泄的能夠醫治毒蛇
的毒。”

 An ancient Hebrew medical manuscript.
                    古代的希伯來醫藥手抄本
“Whoever touches the dead body of anyone
will be unclean for seven days. He must
purify himself with the water on the third
and seventh day...take some hyssop, dip it in
the water and sprinkle the tent and
furnishings and the people who were there.”
                                    Numbers 19

“摸了人死屍的、就必七天不潔淨。那人到第三
天、要用這除污穢的水潔淨自己、第七天就潔淨
了 ……拿 牛 膝 草 蘸 在 這 水 中 、 把 水 灑 在 帳 棚 上 、
和 一 切 器 皿 、 並 帳 棚 內 的 眾 人 身 上 …”
                                 民數記 19
Semelweiss
         Vienna 維也納, 1847

• In maternity wards one out of every six
  women dies.
  在產科病房,六個婦女就有一個會死亡。
• Obstetricians ascribe deaths to constipation,
  fear and poisonous air.
  產科醫師歸咎死因為便秘 、恐懼及有毒
  的空氣
Death Rate falls from
    18% to 1%

死亡率有18%降至1%
Thymol (Oil of Hyssop)百里香酚
“For the generations to come,
every male among you who is eight
days old must be circumcised...”
                     Genesis 17:12
你們世世代代的男子、無論是家裡生的、是
在你後裔之外用銀子從外人買的、生下來第
八日、都要受割禮。      創世紀17:12

Vitamin K 維他命K

Prothrombrin:   a clotting protein.
凝血脢原:一種使血凝結的蛋白質
   Clotting Protein Peaks on Day Eight
     凝血脢原的數量在第八天是最高的

              140
              120       Available Prothrombin
% of normal




              100
              80
              60
              40
              20
               0
                    0   1   2   3   4    5     6   7   8   9 10
                                        days
Abraham’s Experiment                    亞伯拉罕的實驗

   Day           Number of Hebrew   Number of Deaths
   Circumcised   Boys               死亡人數
   第幾天行割禮        希伯來男嬰的數目
   1             823                4
   3             759                6
   5             693                8
   7             855                3
   9             770                2
   11            698                4
          Proposition #1 論點一

The Bible is scientifically unsupported and
probably insupportable
基督教是沒有科學的根據

Genesis 1, Hebrews 11:3 創世紀 1, 希伯來書11:3

Response: Oh really… 回應: 真是嗎…
         Proposition #2 論點二

“Christianity is
philosophically
suspect at best”
基督教在哲理上需
要被懷疑的

  Delos McKown



                     Socrates
    Naturalism/Scientism/Materialism
  自然主義 /科學至上主義 / 物質主義
The belief that the only reliable or valid instrument
to deciding the truth or even the value of any
proposition is the scientific method.
相信只有科學方法才能得出可靠的真理及其推論的
價值
No basis for ethics or morality, no supernatural, no
God, no truth (except that found by science), no
consciousness, no “I.” Justice is a figment of our
imagination.
沒有倫理及道德的準則,沒有超自然,沒有神,沒有
真理 (除了科學能證明的),沒有良知,沒有 “自己”,
公義是人想像出來虛構的事
                       Materialism
                        物質主義
“We exist as material beings in a material
world, all of whose phenomena are the
consequences of material relations among
material entities.” In a word, the public needs
to accept materialism, which means that they
must put God in the trash can of history where
such myths belong.”                            我
們是在物質世界中存在的物質個體,所有的現象都是不同
物質實體互動之後的結果。簡單而論,大眾需要接受物質
主義,亦代表人需要將神放到那些遠古神話的垃圾筒中。
 Richard Lewontin
Retrospective essay on Carl Sagan in the January 9, 1997 New York Review of
Books,
 Postmodernism: The Loss of Truth
         後現代主義:失去真理

Truth, if such a thing exists, is the property of
culture. There is no absolute truth. All truth is
relative. It is created by societies. There is no
ultimate moral authority or moral absolute. 真理,
如果真的存在,是文化的產物。沒有絕對的真理,
所有的真理是相對的,是社會製造出來的。世上是
沒有最終的,絕對的道德權威
A Response to Naturalism/Materialism/Scientism
    回應自然主義 /科學至上主義 / 物質主義


It is a faith/religious belief based on circular
reasoning. 這時根據循環論證的一套想法

It cannot answer the questions human beings care
about. 他們不能解答人類關心的問題

It is patently and demonstrably false. 他們是公然及可
論證地錯的

Does accepting naturalism make us better?
接受自然主義會令人進步嗎?
   Questions Science Can Answer
         科學能解答的問題
When? 何時?
What? 甚麼?
Where? 在那裡?
How many? 有多少?
By what means? 透過甚麼方法?
Questions Science Cannot Answer:
  (That Christianity Does Answer)
科學不能解答的問題: (但基督教可以解答)
 – Why am I here? 我為何在這裡?
 – Is that the right thing to do? 做這事是對的嗎?
 – How valuable am I? 我的價值有多少?
 – Does God exist? Does God act (theism)?
   神存在嗎?神或否作工(有神論)?
 – Will that God respond if I pray?
   神會回應我的禱告嗎?
 – Do supernatural events (miracles) happen?
   超自然事件(神蹟)會發生嗎?
 – Why is there evil and suffering in the world?
   為何世界有邪惡及受苦?
          Materialism is Patently False
             物質主義是公然的錯
If Materialism/Naturalism is right then;
   如果物質主義 / 自然主義是對的;

  “I” do not exist. Consciousness is just random
  moving around of chemicals.                     “我”
  並不存在,良知只不過是一些隨機流動的化學物質
  No soul, no spirit, no non-physical reality.
  沒有魂,沒有靈,沒有非肉體的真實
  Life has no value. Human beings have no value.
  What is value?
  生命是沒有價值的。人類是沒有價值的,甚麼是價值呢?
  Love is chemicals moving around (vs. God is love)
  愛只是一些化學物質在流動 (相對神是愛)
Naturalism is Patently False Because….
     自然主義是公然的錯,因為….
The universe was created. 宇宙是被創造的

Life was created. 生命是被創造的

The Anthropic Principle. The universe is ridiculously
well fine-tuned for us to exist.
人擇原理: 宇宙是荒謬地自然調節而適合人類生存

No one in their right mind can deny the existence of
right and wrong
一個有清晰理智的人一定不能否定善與惡的存在

The Bible is inspired by God. 聖經是神所默示的
   Postmodernism: Cultural Relativism
         後現代主義:文化相對

Truth: It is true for you, but it is not true for me.
真理:對你來說是真的,但對我來說並不是

Meaning, if it exists, lies in a community of believers.
意義,如果它存在,只在那些信徒的社群中



No rational way to discover which is the best world
view. 沒有理性的方法去發掘甚麼是最好的世界觀
      Problems With Postmodernism
            後現代主義的問題
Self-refuting. 自相矛盾
 – If nothing is true, then postmodernism is not true.
   如果甚麼也沒有是真的,那麼後現代主義也不是真的
 – Its authors insist on authorial privilege.
   後現代主義的作者堅持作家的特權

I do not care what they say, some things are just
true. 我並不會理會他們所說的話,有些事情是對的

Either God is real or he is not. Even if I cannot prove
it one way or another. 神可能是真或是假的, 即使我不能
證實或反證祂
       The Christian World View Is True
           基督教的世界觀是真實的
The Universe is Real 宇宙是真的

The creation is good.創造是好的

Evil exists.邪惡存在

Despite what Naturalists say, there is a spiritual reality. For
example, “I” exist. Consciousness is not simply an
epiphenomenon. 儘管自然理論者如何說,人還是有屬靈真實的一面。
例子: “我”存在,良知並不是一個附帶現象

Science and the Christian world view do not contradict.
科學與基督教的世界觀並沒有衝突
Christianity Offers Solutions to the Big Problems of
                   Human Beings
            基督教提供人類大難題的答案

  The Problem of Evil 邪惡的難題

  The Problem of Suffering 受苦的難題

  The Problem of Death 死亡的難題
The Christian World View Has Given Us:
      基督教的世界觀給與我們:
Science 科學

Abolition of Slavery (Wilberforce) 廢除奴隸制度 (威伯福斯)

Civil Rights 民權

Women’s Rights 女權

Christian groups do a majority of all benevolent work in
the world (James 1:27, Micah 6:8) 基督教團體在這世界做
了很多慈善的工作 (雅各書1:27, 彌迦書6:8)
    Two Good Questions 兩個好問題

Does evil exist? 邪惡存在嗎?



If God is all-loving and all-powerful and all-good,
then why is there evil?
如果神是全愛及全能,為何有邪惡呢?
              The answer: God’s love.
                    答案:神是愛
         Free Will: God Gives Us a Choice
               自由意志:神給我們選擇
            Why? Because he loves us.
               為甚麼?因為祂愛我們
 The result: We rebelled and brought evil into the
world. Is this God’s fault? What is the alternative?
結果:我們反叛及將邪惡帶到這世界,這是神的錯嗎?
                 有其他的選擇嗎?

  Deuteronomy 30:15-20 申明記 30:15-20
Free Will, An Illustration: The Prodigal Son
           自由意志,例子:浪子回頭
            Proposition #3 論點三



Christianity is historically fraudulent
基督教是有歷史欺詐的成份
Ruins of
Hattusha,
capital of
the Hittites
The Lion Gate in Hattusha
The Five City
League,
including Sodom
and Gomorrah
The Tel Dan
Inscription
820 BC
2 Kings 8:28-29
列王記下 8:28-29

I Hazael killed Joram,
son of Omri and I
defeated Ahaziah of
the House of David
我哈薛殺了暗利的兒
子約蘭,我打敗了大
衛家的亞哈謝
Pilate Inscription Caesarea AD 30
Ziggurat in Ur
             Proposition #4 論點四

The Bible is full of contradictions.
聖經是充滿自相矛盾

–   Genesis 7:17 vs Genesis 8:3 創 7:17 vs 創 8:3
–   Genesis 37:36 vs Genesis 39:1 創 37:36 vs 創 39:1
–   Mathew 27:5 vs Acts 1:18 太 27:5 vs 徒 1:18
–   John 19:17 vs Mark 15:21-23 約 19:17 vs 可 15:21-23
–   More serious Exodus 20:4-5 vs Ezek 18:19-20
    更嚴重的 出20:4-5 vs 結 18:19-20
      Proposition #5 Jesus is Just a Myth
            論點五: 耶穌只是神話

           Inspiration of the Bible:
         Messianic Prophecies Fulfilled
        神經的默示:救世主的預言被應驗
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was
 still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is
 written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets
 and the Psalms. Luke 24:44
耶穌對他們說、這就是我從前與你們同在之
 時、所告訴你們的話、說、摩西的律法、先
 知的書、和詩篇上所記的、凡指著我的話、
 都 必 須 應 驗 。 路加福音 24:44
                   Isaiah 53:1-13: 賽 53:1-13
•He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows,
familiar with suffering. (v. 3)
他被藐視、被人厭棄、多受痛苦、常經憂患。
•But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for
our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon
him, and by his wounds we are healed. (v. 5) (John 19:31-37)那
知 他 為 我 們 的 過 犯 受 害 、 為 我 們 的 罪 孽 壓 傷 .因 他 受
的刑罰我們得平安.因他受的鞭傷我們得醫治。
•He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before her
shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. (v. 7) 他被欺
壓、在受苦的時候卻不開口.他像羊羔被牽到宰殺之
地、又像羊在剪毛的人手下無聲、他也是這樣不開口
.
             Micah 5:2 彌迦書 5:2
But you, Bethlehem Ephrathrah, though you
are small among the clans of Judah, out of you
will come for me one who will be ruler over
Israel, whose origins are from old, from ancient
times.
伯利恆以法他阿、你在猶大諸城中為
小、將來必有一位從你那裡出來、在以
色列中為我作掌權的.他的根源從亙
古、從太初就有。
               Isaiah 9:1,6 以賽亞書 9:1,6
In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land
of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the
Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the Jordan….
For to us a child is born… And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.
     但那受過痛苦的、必不再見幽暗。從前
神使西布倫地、和拿弗他利地被藐視.末後卻
使這沿海的路、約但河外、外邦人的加利利地
、 得 著 榮 耀 ….因 有 一 嬰 孩 為 我 們 而 生 、 有 一 子
賜給我們.政權必擔在他的肩頭上.他名稱為
奇妙、策士、全能的 神、永在的父、和平的君
。
            Psalm 22:16-18 詩篇 22:16-18
Dogs have surrounded me;
 a band of evil men have encircled me,
 they have pierced my hands and my feet.
I can count all my bones;   (John 19:3-37)
 people stare and gloat over me.
They divide my garments among them
 and cast lots for my clothing. (John 19:23,24)


犬類圍著我.惡黨環繞我.他們扎了我的手、我的
腳。
我的骨頭、我都能數過.他們瞪著眼看我。
他們分我的外衣、為我的裡衣拈鬮。
       Zechariah 11:12,13 撒迦利亞書 11:12, 13

          I told them, “If you think it best, give me my pay; but
 if not, keep it.” so they paid me thirty pieces of silver.
 (Matthew 26:14-16) 我 把 他 交 給 你 們 、 你 們 願 意 給 我
 多 少 錢 。 他 們 就 給 了 他 三 十 塊 錢 。 (太26:14-16)
And the Lord said to me, “Throw it
to the potter”—the handsome
price at which they priced me! So
I took the thirty pieces of silver
and threw them into the house of
the Lord, to the potter. (Matthew
27:3-8) 耶和華吩咐我說、要把眾人
所估定美好的價值、丟給窯戶。我便
將這三十塊錢、在耶和華的殿中、丟
給窯戶了。 (太27:3-8)
              Daniel 9:24-26 但以理書 9:24-26

          Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city
to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to
bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to
anoint the most holy.
         Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to
restore and rebuild Jerusalem, until the Anointed One, the ruler comes,
there will be seven ‘sevens’ and sixty two ‘sevens’
為你本國之民、和你聖城、已經定了七十個七、要止住罪過、
除淨罪惡、贖盡罪孽、引進永義、封住異象和預言、並膏至聖
者。
         你當知道、當明白、從出令重新建造耶路撒冷、直到有
受膏君的時候、必有七個七、和六十二個七.正在艱難的時候
、耶路撒冷城連街帶濠、都必重新建造。

Decree of Artaxerxes (Ezra 7:12-26) 458 BC

458 BC - 490 years = -32         (no zero BC)
 Be born in Bethlehem 在伯利恆出生
 Be raised in Galilee near Nazareth 在加利利的拿撒勒長大
 Be despised and rejected by men 被人藐視及拒絕
 Be meek and silent before his accusers 在控告他的人面前卑微及無聲
 Be “pierced” 被刺傷
 Be crucified 被釘十字架
 Have his garments divided and gambled over 被拈鬮分他的衣服
 Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver 被三十塊錢所出賣
 Come to Jerusalem to make atonement for sin in about AD 33
 在公元33年來到耶路撒冷為人贖罪
 And many more…. 還有…….
Was all this an accident, or did God plan all along for the Passion of the
 Christ for forgiveness of sins? What do you think? 這所有是意外嗎?
 還是神一早的安排,讓耶穌為我們釘十字架而贖罪嗎?你覺得甚麼樣?
             Is the Bible the Word of God or the word of men?
                     聖經是人的話語還是神的話語呢?
    If The Bible is the Word of God
    We Need to Put it Into Practice
如果聖經是神的話語,我們需要將聖經付諸實行
 Hebrews 11:1 Faith in what is not seen.
 來11:1信是未見之事的確據

 John 12:47-50 The Word will be our judge
 約12:47-50 聖經是我們審判的標準

 James 1:22-25 Put it into practice
 雅1:22-25 付諸實行

 2 Tim 4:1-5 No sentimentality. Eternal life is at
 stake. 提後4:1-5 不要感情用事,永生是在危急中
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