5010 � Ready or Not
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Lakeland Regional Medical Center
Tips and FAQ’s
As of 11/11/11, there are 39 days left
Medicare live 10/01/2011 – returning remits
available as well in 5010
Florida Medicaid live 10/01/2011 – returning
remits available as well in 5010
Big 5 commercial payers live by 12/01/11 –
Including Blue Cross, United Health Care,
Humana, Aetna and Cigna
Fieldby field comparison from current
4010A1 format to 5010
Performed in 2009 in preparation
Several new segments or loops
HIS systems may still be coded to require entry
on registration
BEWARE of deleted segments or loops
If deleted segments or loops are passed in
productions claims, the claims have been proven
to fail
Double check with billing scrubber and
clearinghouse
Feedback from Siemens user groups
Small percentage of Florida Medicaid claims
getting through
Usually secondary physician ID related
Medicare claims seem to be accepted initially but
large percentages are going into RTP
Feedback suggests these are based around the
removed Pay to Provider segment (see Gap Analysis)
Feedback also suggests that there are many POA errors
Feedback from Relay Health
List serve documentation as it is assembled
5010 site available and updated weekly
What can I expect from this conversion?
What effect can it have on my cash flow?
What are the major issues with testing?
What kind of test results are being revealed?
PFS/IT departments will work to make it as
invisible and painless as possible
However, ensure adequate resources are
allocated to shoring up changes in bill
scrubber and follow up with payers for errors
Intensive processing scrutiny from Medicare,
Medicaid and Big 5 payers – expect rebills
Expect to allocate staff in the short term to
compensate for the detailed research when
claims are returned or rejected
Expect payment delays
with any billing change, this has the
As
potential for huge impact
If not properly addressed - days or even weeks of
cash delays
Ensure that claims are properly translated or
submitted via bill scrubbers to avoid
rejections
Faster follow up claims turnover and rebilling
will greatly reduce the impact
Watch error reports
Everyone is going through this together –
there will be issues
User group feedback suggests that there are
still major billing scrubbers applying 4010A1
edits to new 5010 claims
It is imperative that the payer testing be
completed with properly translated or
imported claims
Not a 4010A1 with the new 5010 fields
Not a 4010A1 with 5010 headers and footers
Physician ID issues
ONLY NPI numbers are now being accepted – HIS
updates may be necessary if not all are collected
User group feedback indicates that Pay to
Provider and Secondary Physician (Non-NPI)
ID’s are the biggest problems
Relay Health information indicates:
NPI issues
Separately enumerated subparts must be reported as
the correct billing provider
Individual provider NPI’s are required (physician)
COB Balancing
Must indicate how much other payer paid AND patient
responsibility/amount due
Admit date – Inpatient ONLY
Relay Health also indicates:
NDC Drug quantity
If NDC present, then QTY required
Patient Reason for visit
Required for outpatients
Will reject if not appropriate for revenue code bill
type combinations
Don’t assume this will be invisible
Allocate staff
Prepare to touch claims several times before
acceptance
Watch rejection reports
Payers are going to have issues too, and may
erroneously reject your claims
Work closely with billing vendor and
clearinghouse
Properly prepared billing and follow up team
can greatly reduce cash flow impact
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