Cost effectiveness
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City University notes
AJ Fischer
October 2003
Nancy’s Questions
Q1 Different people present material with
different cost perspectives?
A With all such conundrums, one hopes the
different ways are not material to the
decision to be made. If not, NICE muddles
through. Wouldn’t you?
Proper answer: NICE subjects data to
Bayesian analysis, contributions being
weighted by beliefs about the relative merits
of each component. (Wish it were true!)
Nancy’s Questions
Q2 What does NICE do when faced with CE ratios
using different output measures?
A In terms of cost per QALY, the CE ratio should
contain all relevant output measures. If benefits are not
in terms of QALYs, the decision becomes difficult.
Answers will be made on a case-by-case basis. Depends
how clear-cut things are: if very high or very low cost
per QALY, the correct decision will not be in doubt. If
the case is near the threshold, then the extra uncertainty
will not result in a great efficiency loss if the wrong
decision is made.
Nancy’s Questions
Q3 What does NICE do when faced with
QALYs measured in two different
ways in a particular appraisal?
A Again, one hopes firstly that the
decision to be made does not depend
on the measurement method. If the
method matters, then probably even
God doesn’t know the right answer.
Nancy’s Naughty Question
Q4 How would NICE assess the costs and benefits
of IVF?
A The costs do not pose much of a problem. The
benefits, as ever, are more difficult. How many
life years are to be given to a live embryo
compared with a dead one or the absence of one?
At 39 weeks? At 30 weeks? At 12 weeks? At 3
weeks? Who knows the answer? The Committee
will make a decision, but will not really like
doing so. They do so in the absence of any
scientific or research guidance about what the
answer should be. Further, is this about health or
about lifestyle? Who should judge? Should the
Nancy’s Questions
Q5 How does NICE weigh up “scientific”
evidence with patient evidence?
A If patient evidence is “scientific”, it
will become part of the scientific
evidence. Therefore, what is left is not
“scientific” and should be disregarded.
Fortunately, that is not the end of the
question: (1) we are all humans
(2) X-inefficiency
Nancy’s Questions
Q6 How does NICE weigh up RCT
evidence with evidence of poorer
quality?
A If sufficient RCT evidence is available,
then there will be no need to go to
other, potentially biased, sources of
evidence, such as case series or case
studies. If no RCT evidence is
available, or is sparse or of poor
quality, then it makes sense to look
towards other evidence.
Nancy’s Questions
Q7 NICE provides guidance at national
level which must be followed locally.
What if some local projects have lower
cost per QALY?
A This is in part an equity-efficiency
trade-off. It is not equitable to have
postcode prescribing, so it has been
made mandatory to follow NICE
guidance. But there are limits.
Currently, we just don’t know the
worth of projects forgone.
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