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					                        WHAT IT MEANS TO BE MEANS

                                    TO BE A TROJAN


                                       PETE CARROLL

AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA'S GREATEST PLAYERS

BY STEVEN TRAVERS

Triumph Books
                                    www.triumphbooks.com

                          A division of Random House Publishing


STEVEN TRAVERS

Copyright, 2009
                                       CONTENTS



Always Compete By Pete Carroll
Foreword: What It Means to Be a Trojan by Pete Carroll
Editor's Acknowledgements
Introduction


The THIRTIES

       Norrman Biing,, Ambrrose Schiindllerr
       No man B ng Amb ose Sch nd e


The FORTIIES
The FORT ES

       Biilll Grray,, Jiim Harrdy,, Gorrdon Grray
       B G ay J m Ha dy Go don G ay


The FIIFTIIES
The F FT ES

       Frrank Giifffforrd,, All "Hoagy" Carrmiichaell,, Tom Niickolloffff,, Sam "tthe Toe"
       F ank G o d A "Hoagy" Ca m chae Tom N cko o Sam " he Toe"

       Tsagallakiis,, Marrv Goux,, Jon Arrnettt,, C..R.. Roberrtts,, Montte Cllarrk,, Ron Miix
       Tsaga ak s Ma v Goux Jon A ne C R Robe s Mon e C a k Ron M x
The SIXTIES

       "Prince Hal" Bedsole, Willie Brown, Craig Fertig, Bill Fisk Jr., Tim Rossovich,

       Ron Yary, Adrian Young, Mike "Razor" Battle, Steve Sogge, John McKay


The SEVENTIES

       John Vella, Sam "Bam" Cunningham, Allan Graf, Rod McNeill, Manfred Moore,

       J.K. McKay, Richard "Batman" Wood, Clay Matthews, Frank Jordan, Paul

       McDonald



The EIGHTIES

       Keith Van Horne, Roy Foster, Jeff Brown, Michael Harper. Tim Green, Steve

       Jordan, Jeff "Breeg" Bregel, Rex Moore, Mark "Aircraft" Carrier, John "J.J."

       Jackson



The NINETIES

       Todd Marinovich, Scott Ross, Derrick Deese, Matt Gee, Taso Papadakis, John

       Robinson



The NEW MILLENIUM

       Kevin Arbet, Brandon Hancock. Tom Malone, Mario Danelo


DUSTCOVER


Throughout the 20th Century, it was considered an article of faith that the University of
Notre Dame had the greatest collegiate football tradition of all time, but under Coach

Pete Carroll, the University of Southern California Trojans have caught up to, and indeed

surpassed, the Fighting Irish as the greatest historical program in the land.

        Now for the first time in one book are all the great first-person stories, as told by
the legendary Men of Troy themselves, in this modern college football version of The
Glory of Their Times. Two names surface throughout: Marv Goux, the late, legendary
assistant coach who symbolized What It Means to Be a Trojan, and Coach Carroll, who
sought out Goux in his later years to get to "the essence of what the University of
Southern California is all about."
        The stories told by the men in these pages tell the tale of a unique university,
experience and football past that seemingly mirrors the words of General George Patton
when asked his opinion of Morocco: "It's partly the Bible, and partly Hollywood."
Indeed, Trojan football over the decades has resembled something beyond exciting, albeit
miraculous, while at the same time symbolizing movie star glitz and glamour. No man
has better suited this persona than Coach Carroll himself, a man referred to by Trojan
alum and college football broadcaster Petros Papadakis as "the Prince of the City."


PETE CARROLL
(with photo)

After years as an assistant coach (including defensive coordinator of the San Francisco

49ers) and head jobs with the New York Jets and New England Patriots, Pete Carroll

found his niche at USC, where he has compiled one of the greatest records in the history

of collegiate grid annals. His Trojans won consecutive national championships (2003-04),

two Orange Bowls, three Rose Bowls, and from 2003-06 were ranked number one a

record 33 consecutive weeks while compiling the second-longest winning streak in the

modern, major college era (34 games). A three-time Pacific-10 Conference Coach of the

Year, Carroll was the National Coach of the Year in 2003 and 2004. Despite his busy

schedule, Carroll has shown amazing dedication to the inner city community that

surrounds the USC campus and has risen to a level of popularity and respect in Southern

California matched by few figures in sports or any other field of endeavor. He and his
wife Glena are the parents of a daughter, Jaime, an ex-Trojan volleyball player, and son

Nate, a USC student. His older son Brennan is an assistant coach with the Trojans.



STEVEN TRAVERS
(with photo)

Steven Travers was born in the same city (San Francisco), grew up in the same county

(Marin), attended the same high school (Redwood), was coached/mentored by the same

men (Al Endriss, Bob Troppmann), and later graduated from the same college (USC) that

Pete Carroll attended and/or established his coaching legend at. They are not the same

age, but many of the younger brothers of Carroll's friends played with and were friends of

Travers a few years later. An ex-professional baseball player, he is the author of the

best-selling Barry Bonds: Baseball’s Superman, nominated for a Casey Award (best

baseball book of 2002). He is also the author of The USC Trojans: College Football’s

All-Time Greatest Dynasty (a National Book Network “top 100 seller”); One Night, Two

Teams: Alabama vs. USC and the Game That Changed a Nation (subject of a

documentary and major motion picture, a 2007 PNBA nominee); and five books in the

Triumph/Random House Essential series (A’s, Dodgers, Angels, D’backs, Trojans).

Other Triumph/Random House books include: The Good, the Bad & the Ugly Los

Angeles Lakers; The Good, the Bad & the Ugly Oakland Raiders; The Good, the Bad &

the Ugly San Francisco 49ers, and What It Means to Be a Trojan. His other books

include The 1969 Miracle Mets; Pigskin Warriors: 140 Years of College Football's

Greatest Games, Players and Traditions; Dodgers Baseball Yesterday and Today; and A

Tale of Three Cities: New York, L.A. and San Francisco in October of '62. Steve was a

columnist for StreetZebra magazine in Los Angeles and the San Francisco Examiner. He
                 also penned the screenplays The Lost Battalion and 21. Travers helped lead the Redwood

                 High School baseball team to the national championship his senior year; attended college

                 on an athletic scholarship; was an all-conference pitcher; and coached at USC,

                 Cal-Berkeley and in Europe. He also attended law school, served in the Army, and is a

                 guest lecturer at the University of Southern California. A fifth generation Californian,

                 Steve has a daughter, Elizabeth Travers and still resides in the Golden State.



                Books wrriitttten by Stteven Trraverrs
                Books w en by S even T ave s


                         One Niightt,, Two Teams:: Allabama vs.. USC and tthe Game Thatt Changed A Nattiion
                         One N gh Two Teams A abama vs USC and he Game Tha Changed A Na on

                ((allso a documenttarry,, Tacklliing Segregattiion,, and soon tto be a majjorr mottiion piictturre))
                  a so a documen a y Tack ng Segrega on and soon o be a ma o mo on p c u e

A’’s Essenttiiall:: Everytthiing You Need tto Know tto Be A Reall Fan!!
A s Essen a Every h ng You Need o Know o Be A Rea Fan

                         Trojjans Essenttiiall:: Everytthiing You Need tto Know tto Be A Reall Fan!!
                         Tro ans Essen a Every h ng You Need o Know o Be A Rea Fan

                 Dodgers Essenttiiall:: Everytthiing You Need tto Know tto Be A Reall Fan!!
                  Dodgers Essen a Every h ng You Need o Know o Be A Rea Fan
Angells Essenttiiall:: Everytthiing You Need tto Know tto Be A Reall Fan!!
Ange s Essen a Every h ng You Need o Know o Be A Rea Fan

                         D’’Backs Essenttiiall:: Everytthiing You Need tto Know tto Be A Reall
                         D Backs Essen a Every h ng You Need o Know o Be A Rea

The USC Trojjans:: Collllege Foottballl''s Alll--Tiime Greattestt Dynastty
The USC Tro ans Co ege Foo ba s A T me Grea es Dynas y

                         The Good,, tthe Bad & tthe Uglly Los Angelles Lakers
                         The Good he Bad & he Ug y Los Ange es Lakers

                The Good,, tthe Bad & tthe Uglly Oaklland Raiiders
                The Good he Bad & he Ug y Oak and Ra ders
                The Good,, tthe Bad & tthe Uglly San Franciisco 49ers
                The Good he Bad & he Ug y San Franc sco 49ers
                Barry Bonds:: Baseballll’’s Superman
                Barry Bonds Baseba s Superman
                Piigskiin Warriiors:: 140 Years off Colllege Foottballl''s Greattestt Games,, Pllayers and
                P gsk n Warr ors 140 Years o Co ege Foo ba s Grea es Games P ayers and
                Tradiittiions
                Trad ons
                The 1969 Miiraclle Metts
                The 1969 M rac e Me s
                Dodgers Baseballll Yestterday and Today
                Dodgers Baseba Yes erday and Today
                A Talle off Three Ciittiies:: New York,, L..A.. and San Franciisco iin Octtober off ''62
                A Ta e o Three C es New York L A and San Franc sco n Oc ober o 62
                          God''s Counttry:: A Conservattiive,, Chriisttiian Worlldviiew off How Hiisttory Formed tthe
                           God s Coun ry A Conserva ve Chr s an Wor dv ew o How H s ory Formed he

                Uniitted Sttattes Empiire and Ameriica''s Maniiffestt Desttiiny ffor tthe 21stt Centtury
                Un ed S a es Emp re and Amer ca s Man es Des ny or he 21s Cen ury
                        Angry White Male

The Writer’s Life



              Praise for Steven Travers


              Steve Travers is the next great USC historian, in the tradition of Jim Murray, John Hall,

              and Mal Florence! . . . The Trojan Nation needs your work!

                        - USC Head Football Coach Pete Carroll



              I knew you loved USC, but you really love USC! This is a book about American society. It

              sheds incredible light on little-known events that every American must know to

              understand this country . . . In 20 years, people will say of this book what they said about

              Roger Kahn's The Boys of Summer.

                        - Fred Wallin, CRN national sportstalk host



              Stteve Travers combiines wiitt,, humor,, sociiall patthos and hiisttoriicall knowlledge wiitth tthe kiind
              S eve Travers comb nes w humor soc a pa hos and h s or ca know edge w h he k nd

              off sportts experttiise tthatt onlly an ex--jjock iis priivy tto;; iitt iis remiiniiscentt off tthe work off Jiim
              o spor s exper se ha on y an ex ock s pr vy o                             s rem n scen o he work o J m

              Boutton,, Patt Jordan and Dan Jenkiins,, combiined wiitth Jiim Murray’’s tturn off phrase,,
              Bou on Pa Jordan and Dan Jenk ns comb ned w h J m Murray s urn o phrase

              Huntter Thompson’’s hard--scrabblle Trutths,, and Daviid Hallbersttam’’s uniique ttake on our
              Hun er Thompson s hard scrabb e Tru hs and Dav d Ha bers am s un que ake on our

              nattiion’’s pllace iin hiisttory.. Hiis wriittiing iis greatt sttoryttellliing,, and tthe resulltt iis pure geniius
              na on s p ace n h s ory H s wr ng s grea s ory e ng and he resu s pure gen us

              every ttiime..
              every me

                       -- Westtwood One sporrtts mediia perrsonalliitty Miike McDowd
                          Wes wood One spo s med a pe sona y M ke McDowd



              Stteve Travers iis a greatt wriitter,, an educatted atthllette who knows how tto gett iinsiide tthe
              S eve Travers s a grea wr er an educa ed a h e e who knows how o ge ns de he
             pllayer’’s heads,, and when tthatt happens,, greattness occurs.. He’’s gonna be a supersttar..
             p ayer s heads and when ha happens grea ness occurs He s gonna be a supers ar

                      -- San Franciisco Examiiner
                         San Franc sco Exam ner



             Stteve Travers iis a phenomenall wriitter,, an arttiistt who llabors over every word tto gett iitt jjustt
             S eve Travers s a phenomena wr er an ar s who abors over every word o ge                             us

             riightt,, and he has an encycllopediic knowlledge off sportts and hiisttory..
             r gh and he has an encyc oped c know edge o spor s and h s ory

-- SttreettZebra magaziine
   S ree Zebra magaz ne



             Stteve Travers iis a Renaiissance man..
             S eve Travers s a Rena ssance man
                              -- Jiim Rome Show
                                  J m Rome Show



             Travers'' new book ffiinallly expllaiins tthe phenomenon .. .. .. tthe Bonds ttalle iis spellled outt iin
             Travers new book na y exp a ns he phenomenon                        he Bonds a e s spe ed ou n

             tthe mostt tthorough,, iintteresttiing,, revealliing,, conciise manner ever reached..
               he mos horough n eres ng revea ng conc se manner ever reached

                      -- Maurry Allllen//www..TheCollumniistts..com,, Gannetttt Newspaperrs
                         Mau y A en www TheCo umn s s com Ganne Newspape s



             Travers appears tto have tthe riightt credenttiialls ffor tthe ttask:: He iis a fformer miinor lleaguer
             Travers appears o have he r gh creden a s or he ask He s a ormer m nor eaguer

             who allso penned screenpllays iin addiittiion tto a collumn ffor tthe San Franciisco Examiiner..
             who a so penned screenp ays n add on o a co umn or he San Franc sco Exam ner

             He calllls on tthatt background iin craffttiing a sttraiighttfforward,, wartts--and--allll proffiille tthatt
             He ca s on ha background n cra ng a s ra gh orward war s and a pro e ha

             remaiins ttrutthffull wiitthoutt becomiing a mean--spiiriitted hattchett jjob .. .. ..
             rema ns ru h u w hou becom ng a mean sp r ed ha che ob

                              -- USA Today Baseballll Weeklly
                                 USA Today Baseba Week y



             Thiis iis a ffasciinattiing book wriittten by a man who knows hiis subjjectt mattter iinsiide and outt..
             Th s s a asc na ng book wr en by a man who knows h s sub ec ma er ns de and ou

                            -- IIrrv Kaze//KRLA Radiio,, Los Angelles
                                   v Kaze KRLA Rad o Los Ange es



             Get this book. You've brought Bonds to life.
                -- Frred Wallliin//Syndiicatted sporrttsttallk hostt,, Los Angelles
                   F ed Wa n Synd ca ed spo s a k hos Los Ange es


This promises to be the biggest sports book of 2002.

              - Greg Papa/KTCT Radio, San Francisco



This cat struck out Kevin Mitchell five times in one game. I'll read the book for that

reason alone. Plus, he hangs out with Charlie Sheen. How do I get that gig?

              - Rod Brooks/Fitz & Brooks, KNBR Radio, San Francisco



.. .. .. gossiipy,, easy--tto--read ttalle .. .. .. expllores tthe sportts culltture tthatt iinfflluences tthiis
         goss py easy o read a e                    exp ores he spor s cu ure ha n uences h s

diisttiinguiished sllugger .. .. .. entterttaiiniing..
d s ngu shed s ugger                en er a n ng

              -- Liibrary Journall
                 L brary Journa



Wartts--and--allll .. .. .. Travers expllores Bonds'' mercuriiall ttemper and pllace iin baseballl
War s and a                 Travers exp ores Bonds mercur a emper and p ace n baseba

hiisttory..
h s ory

              -- Novatto Journall
                 Nova o Journa



                          … tthe ffiirstt comprehensiive biiography off Barry Bonds..
                          … he rs comprehens ve b ography o Barry Bonds
                                          -- Bud Geraciie//San Jose Mercury News
                                             Bud Gerac e San Jose Mercury News


Travers thought he hit the jackpot . . .

              -- Furrman Biischerr,, Attllantta Journall--Consttiittuttiion
                 Fu man B sche A an a Journa Cons u on



Travers…hiitt tthe biig ttiime .. .. .. Travers .. .. .. esttablliished hiimsellff as a wriitter off many
Travers…h he b g me                     Travers          es ab shed h mse as a wr er o many

diimensiions .. .. .. a natturall .. .. .. You were ahead off your ttiime wiitth tthe Bonds book.. II sttiillll
d mens ons            a na ura             You were ahead o your me w h he Bonds book s
tthiink iitt iis tthe bestt biiography off hiim II''ve seen.. IItt does more tto captture hiis personalliitty tthan
  h nk s he bes b ography o h m ve seen does more o cap ure h s persona y han

allll tthe stteroiid books and arttiiclles..
a he s ero d books and ar c es

          - John Jackson/Ross Valley Reporter


Travers is a minor league pitcher-turned-sportswriter, and therefore qualified to evaluate

[Larry] Dierker's thought process in ordering all those walks regardless of the score or

the situation.

                - Stan Hochman/Philadelphia Daily News



. . . looks at all of Barry's warts, yet remains in the end favorable to him. Not an easy

balancing act. This is not your average sports book. It is edgy and filled with laughs . . .

and inside baseball. Good, solid reading.

                - www.Amazon.com


It's a great read.

                - Pete Wilson/KGO Radio, San Francisco



This is a good book that really covers his whole life, and informs us where Bonds is

coming from. His entire life is laid out. He is very qualified to continue to write books

such as this one. Good job.

               - Marty Lurie/Right off the Bat Oakland A’s pre-game host



.. .. .. a qualliitty piiece .. .. .. ((Travers)) uses hiis experiiences iin baseballl .. .. .. proviidiing a
         a qua y p ece                  Travers uses h s exper ences n baseba                   prov d ng a

humorous glliimpse iintto tthe lliiffe off a pllayer.. Woulld II recommend tthiis book? Absolluttelly .. .. ..
humorous g mpse n o he e o a p ayer Wou d recommend h s book? Abso u e y
llaughed outt lloud severall ttiimes att Travers'' uniique way off expllaiiniing hiis experiiences.. Thiis
  aughed ou oud severa mes a Travers un que way o exp a n ng h s exper ences Th s

book iis deffiiniittelly wortth tthe ttiime..
book s de n e y wor h he me

                  - John Kenny/www.esportnews.com


Travers’ account mentions everything from cocaine to sex to car crashes to what Bonds

said he would do to Roger Clemens . . . more than a “hit” piece.

             - Johnson City Press



Travers'' book does do a more wellll--rounded jjob off sollviing tthe mysttery off who Bonds iis .. ..
Travers book does do a more we rounded ob o so v ng he mys ery o who Bonds s

.. appealliing .. .. .. iis tthe more iinsiide llook att Bonds iin Travers'' book..
   appea ng               s he more ns de ook a Bonds n Travers book

              -- San Jose Mercury News
                 San Jose Mercury News



.. .. .. Travers'' work iis every baseballl affiiciionado''s dream..
         Travers work s every baseba a c onado s dream

             -- Faiirffiielld Daiilly Republliic
                Fa r e d Da y Repub c



You''ve creatted quiitte a sttiir here att tthe sttattiion,, wiitth tthe Giiantts,, and tthroughoutt baseballl..
You ve crea ed qu e a s r here a he s a on w h he G an s and hroughou baseba

                    --                                                                                   Riick
                                                                                                         R ck

                         Barrrry//Hallll off Fame baskettballll sttarr and sporrttsttallk hostt,, KNBR Radiio,,
                         Ba y Ha o Fame baske ba s a and spo s a k hos KNBR Rad o

                         San Frranciisco
                         San F anc sco



You''ve sttiirred a hornett''s nestt here,, man..
You ve s rred a horne s nes here man

               -- J..T.. “The Brriick”//Syndiicatted nattiionall sporrttsttallk hostt
                  J T “The B ck” Synd ca ed na ona spo s a k hos



This is a controversial subject and a controversial player, but you've educated us.
              - Ron Barr/Sportsline, Armed Forces Radio Network



A baseballl pllayer who can wriitte .. .. .. who knew? Thiis one sure can!!
A baseba p ayer who can wr e                 who knew? Th s one sure can

                -- Arrny “The Sttiinkiin’’ Geniius” Spanyerr//Fox Sporrtts Radiio,, Los Angelles
                   A ny “The S nk n Gen us” Spanye Fox Spo s Rad o Los Ange es



You know baseballll lliike ffew peoplle II''ve ever spoken tto..
You know baseba ke ew peop e ve ever spoken o

               -- Andy Dorrffff//Sporrttsttallk hostt,, Phoeniix,, Phiilladellphiia & New Jerrsey
                  Andy Do Spo s a k hos Phoen x Ph ade ph a & New Je sey



Congrattullattiions .. .. .. a ttour de fforce..
Congra u a ons               a our de orce

               -- Katte DeLancey//WFAN Radiio,, New Yorrk Ciitty
                  Ka e DeLancey WFAN Rad o New Yo k C y



II can''tt sttand Bonds,, butt you''ve done a good jjob wiitth a diifffiiculltt subjjectt..
   can s and Bonds bu you ve done a good ob w h a d cu sub ec

                -- Grrantt Napiierr//Sporrttsttallk hostt,, Sacrramentto
                   G an Nap e Spo s a k hos Sac amen o



Stteve''s a lliitteratte ex--atthllette,, an ex--Trojjan and a vetteran off Hollllywood,, ttoo..
S eve s a era e ex a h e e an ex Tro an and a ve eran o Ho ywood oo

                -- Lee “Hacksaw” Hamiilltton//XTRA Radiio,, San Diiego
                   Lee “Hacksaw” Ham on XTRA Rad o San D ego



A greatt book aboutt a greatt pllayer..
A grea book abou a grea p ayer

                -- KTHK Radiio,, Sacrramentto
                   KTHK Rad o Sac amen o



A gem..
A gem

                -- Roseviillle Press--Triibune
                   Rosev e Press Tr bune
Here''s tthe man tto ttallk tto regardiing tthe subjjectt off Barry Bonds..
Here s he man o a k o regard ng he sub ec o Barry Bonds

               -- John Loberrttiinii//KPIIX TV,, San Frranciisco
                  John Lobe n KP X TV San F anc sco



He''s enlliighttened us on tthe subjjectt off Bonds,, hiis ffatther,, and Godffatther,, Wiillliie Mays..
He s en gh ened us on he sub ec o Bonds h s a her and God a her W e Mays

                  B an Sussman KP X TV San F anc sco
               -- Brriian Sussman//KPIIX TV.. San Frranciisco



 II hatte Bonds,, butt you''re okay..
    ha e Bonds bu you re okay

                - Scott Ferrall/Syndicated national and New York sportstalk host


One of the better baseball books I've read.

                - KOA Radio, Denver



. . . the "last word" on Barry Bonds . . .

                - Scott Reis/ESPN TV



. . . a hot new biography on Barry Bonds . . .

                - Darian Hagan/CNN


. . . one of the great sportswriters on the current American scene, Steve Travers . . .

             Joe Shea/Radio talk host; Bradenton, Florida and editor,

www.American-Reporter.com



To a reall pro..
To a rea pro

               -- Jeffff Prrugh,, fforrmerr Los Angelles Tiimes Attllantta burreau chiieff
                  Je P ugh o me Los Ange es T mes A an a bu eau ch e
It was a good read.

               - Lance Williams/Co-author, Game of Shadows



You’ve done some good writin’, dude.

         - KFOG Radio, San Francisco



A very interesting read which is not your average . . . book . . . Steve has achieved his

bona fides when it comes to having the credentials to write a book like this.

         -- Geoffff Mettcallffe//KSFO Radiio,, San Frranciisco
            Geo Me ca e KSFO Rad o San F anc sco



Stteve Travers iis a ttrue USC hiisttoriian and a lloyall Trojjan!!
S eve Travers s a rue USC h s or an and a oya Tro an

         -- Forrmerr USC ffoottballl pllayerr John Papadakiis
            Fo me USC oo ba p aye John Papadak s



Pette Carrollll calllls you “tthe nextt greatt USC hiisttoriian,,” hiigh praiise iindeed..
Pe e Carro ca s you “ he nex grea USC h s or an ” h gh pra se ndeed

          -- Rob Fukuzakii//ABC7,, Los Angelles
             Rob Fukuzak ABC7 Los Ange es


You’’re a greatt wriitter and II allways enjjoy your musiings .. .. .. parttiicullarlly on SC ffoottballl --
You re a grea wr er and a ways en oy your mus ngs                      par cu ar y on SC oo ba

huge ffan!!
huge an

         --     Oaklland A’’s generrall managerr Biillly Beane
                Oak and A s gene a manage B y Beane



A's Essenttiiall:: Everrytthiing You Need To Be a Reall Fan offffers a breezy hiisttory ((wiitth
A's Essen a Eve y h ng You Need To Be a Rea Fan o ers a breezy h s ory w h
emphasiis on tthe Oaklland years)),, pllayer biiographiies,, Top 10 lliistts,, ttriiviia questtiions and
emphas s on he Oak and years p ayer b ograph es Top 10 s s r v a ques ons and
more aboutt tthe Atthllettiics'' ffranchiise tthatt has resiided iin Phiilladellphiia,, Kansas Ciitty and,,
more abou he A h e cs ranch se ha has res ded n Ph ade ph a Kansas C y and
siince 1968,, Oaklland..
s nce 1968 Oak and
        -- Brruce Danciis//Sacramentto Bee
           B uce Danc s Sacramen o Bee
Stteven Travers iis one off tthe mostt accomplliished sportts jjournalliistts iin our nattiion ttoday .. .. ..
S even Travers s one o he mos accomp shed spor s ourna s s n our na on oday
        -- Sttrrandbooks..com
           S andbooks com



Wow whatt a greatt jjob!!!!!!!! .. .. .. II llove tthe book .. .. .. IItt''s one off tthose you llook fforward tto
Wow wha a grea ob                             ove he book                  s one o hose you ook orward o

readiing att speciiall ttiimes .. .. .. II can''tt say enough!!
read ng a spec a mes                       can say enough

    -- Lonniie Whiitte,, Los Angelles Tiimes
       Lonn e Wh e Los Ange es T mes



Stteve iis tthe USC hiisttoriian whose mettiicullous atttenttiion tto dettaiill iis a revellattiion.. He iis tthe
S eve s he USC h s or an whose me cu ous a en on o de a s a reve a on He s he

bestt chroniicller off USC ever..
bes chron c er o USC ever

          - Chuck Hayes, CRN “Sports Corner”



This is fabulous, just a terrific look at our history. Travers is one of the best writers

around.

          - Rod Brooks, “Fitz & Brooks Show,” KNBR/San Francisco



You have created a work of art here, an absolutely great book. We love your work.

          - Bob Fitzgerald, “Fitz & Brooks Show,” KNBR/San Francisco



When it comes to sports history, this is the man right here.

          - Gary Radnich, KRON/4, San Francisco



Steve combines . . . social and historical knowledge in his writing.

          - University of Southern California
Author Steven Travers discusses his new book . . .

         - Orange County Register



. . . Join Steve Travers . . . at the Autograph Stage . . .
          - ESPN Radio



. . . Steve Travers, author of One Night, Two Teams: Alabama vs. USC and the Game

That Changed a Nation . . .

         -- Los Angelles Daiilly News
            Los Ange es Da y News



Stteve Travers,, a sportts hiisttoriian .. .. ..
S eve Travers a spor s h s or an
        -- Los Allamiittos News--Entterpriise
           Los A am os News En erpr se



Here tthiis dynamiic speaker ttelll how tthiis ffamous game changed hiisttory..
Here h s dynam c speaker e how h s amous game changed h s ory
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Travers presentts tthiis parttiicullar game iin 1970 as a mettaphor ffor tthe proffound changes iin
Travers presen s h s par cu ar game n 1970 as a me aphor or he pro ound changes n

sociiall hiisttory duriing tthe emanciipattiion off tthe Soutth..
soc a h s ory dur ng he emanc pa on o he Sou h

         -- Publliishers Weeklly
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.. .. .. Expllored iin riich,, paiinsttakiing dettaiill by Stteve Travers..
         Exp ored n r ch pa ns ak ng de a by S eve Travers
                      -- Jeffff Prrugh,, L..A.. Tiimes beatt wrriitterr who coverred tthe 1970
                           Je P ugh L A T mes bea w e who cove ed he 1970

                       USC--Allabama game
                       USC A abama game
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                            To Tiim Tessallone ffor alll your hellp allll tthese years
                            To T m Tessa one or a your he p a hese years

                                         And tto Seargantt Gary Andrade,,
                                         And o Seargan Gary Andrade

      Who rootted ffor tthe Trojjans whiille ffiighttiing lliike one iin IIraq
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                                                 CONTENTS
                                                 CONTENTS



      Allways Compette By Pette Carrrrolll
       A ways Compe e By Pe e Ca o
       Fo ewo d Wha t Means o Be a T o an by Pe e Ca o
      Forreworrd:: Whatt IIt Means tto Be a Trrojjan by Pette Carrrrolll
      Ediittorr's Acknowlledgementts
       Ed o 's Acknow edgemen s
      IInttrroducttiion
        n oduc on
       The TWENT E S
      The TWENTIIES

               The Duke


      The TH R T ES
      The THIIRTIIES

               Norman Bing, Ambrose Schindler


               Glory Days
The FORTIES

      Bill Gray, Jim Hardy, Gordon Gray


The FIFTIES

      Ed Demirjian, Frank Gifford, Al "Hoagy" Carmichael



      He Was Flower of SF Sports Past



      Tom Nickoloff, Sam "the Toe" Tsagalakis, Marv Goux, Jon Arnett, C.R. Roberts,

      Monte Clark, Ron Mix



      A Tale of Two Pitchers



The SIXTIES

      Bill Redell, "Prince Hal" Bedsole, Willie Brown, Craig Fertig, Bill Fisk Jr., Bob

      Svihus, Tim Rossovich


      The Re-Incarnation of Christy Mathewson


       Ron Yary, Adrian Young, Mike "Razor" Battle, Steve Sogge


      Spaceman Re-Visited



      Tom Kelly, John McKay
     An Unsung Hero



The SEVENTIES

     Mike Walden, Clarence Davis, Sam Dickerson, Jeff Prugh, Bruce Rollinson, Bud

     "The Steamer" Furillo, Dave Levy, John Vella


     Mr. Smith Goes to Bucharest


     Dave Levy, Dave Brown, Cliff Culbreath, Sam "Bam" Cunningham, Allan Graf,

     Charles "Tree" Young, Rod McNeill, Manfred Moore, Anthony "A.D." Davis, Pat

     Haden, J.K. McKay


     Rich McKay


     Richard "Batman" Wood, Gene Lawryk, Rod Martin, Clay Matthews, Frank

     Jordan, Otis Page, Paul McDonald


     The Houdini of Bovard



The EIGHTIES

     Keith Van Horne, Jim Perry, Roy Foster, Mike Roth, Jeff Simmons, Scott

     Tinsley, Jeff Brown


     Mickey Meister Was My Friend


     Michael Harper
       Sham or Slam?



       Tim Green, Steve Jordan, Brent Moore


       Big Unit Was Bay Area Boy of Summer



Jeff Bregel, Rex Moore, Martin Chesley, Mark "Aircraft" Carrier, John "J.J." Jackson

       A Line Drive Hitter



The NINETIES

       Gene Fruge, Todd Marinovich, Scott Ross, Derrick Deese, Matt Gee, Tim "Mad

       Dog" Lavin


       Past and Future Play Winning Tennis at Mercedes


       Taso Papadakis


       It's Too Early to Hype Palmer for Heisman . . . Or Is It?

       Barry Zito Is Key to Oakland's Re-Emergence



John Robinson

       "For Real!"

A Reliquary For Real Baseball Fans


The NEW MILLENIUM
         Kevin Arbet


         The Heir Apparent to Flo Jo

         This Vandy Dandy Is Now a Trojan


         Brandon Hancock

         Making His Own Legend



         Tom Malone



         The Forrest Gump of Baseball

         Marriio Danello
         Ma o Dane o

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Marrk Spiino
Ma k Sp no


                                        ALWAYS COMPETE
                                        ALWAYS COMPETE




                                          INTRODUCTION
                                          INTRODUCTION



Nobody embodiies tthe magiic,, tthe charriisma,, tthe spiirriitt and tthe exciittementt off Whatt IItt
Nobody embod es he mag c he cha sma he sp and he exc emen o Wha

Means tto Be a Trojjan morre tthan head coach Pette Carrrrolll.. Thiis iis quiitte a sttattementt,,
Means o Be a Tro an mo e han head coach Pe e Ca o Th s s qu e a s a emen

because tthe lliikes off John "Duke" Wayne,, Rod Dedeaux,, Frrank Giifffforrd,, Biilll Sharrman,,
because he kes o John "Duke" Wayne Rod Dedeaux F ank G o d B Sha man

Jesse "Biig Daddy" Unrruh,, Norrman Toppiing,, John McKay,, Marrv Goux,, Georrge Lucas,,
Jesse "B g Daddy" Un uh No man Topp ng John McKay Ma v Goux Geo ge Lucas

Tom Selllleck,, Tom Seaverr,, Biillll Lee,, Bob Seagrren,, C.. Chrriisttopherr Cox,, Sam "Bam"
Tom Se eck Tom Seave B Lee Bob Seag en C Ch s ophe Cox Sam "Bam"
Cunniingham,, Pattrriiciia Niixon,, John Naberr,, Marrcus Alllen,, Ronniie Lottt,, John Robiinson,,
Cunn ngham Pa c a N xon John Nabe Ma cus A en Ronn e Lo John Rob nson

Randy Johnson,, Ciindy McCaiin,, Drr.. Stteven Samplle,, and Miike Garrrrettt arre jjustt a ffew off
Randy Johnson C ndy McCa n D S even Samp e and M ke Ga e a e us a ew o

tthose who have allso embodiied Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan.. Butt Coach Carrrrolll has
  hose who have a so embod ed Wha Means o Be a Tro an Bu Coach Ca o has

ttaken iitt tto a new llevell.. He iis tthe "Prriince off tthe Ciitty" iin Los Angelles,, a man who coulld be
  aken o a new eve He s he "P nce o he C y" n Los Ange es a man who cou d be

Mayorr,, maybe even Goverrnorr as Paull "Bearr" Brryantt miightt have been iin Allabama,, had he
Mayo maybe even Gove no as Pau "Bea " B yan m gh have been n A abama had he

chosen tto ttrry.. Thiis iis a man who has atttaiined tthe rrespectt prreviiouslly rreserrved fforr such
chosen o y Th s s a man who has a a ned he espec p ev ous y ese ved o such

llumiinarriies as Jiimmy Sttewarrtt,, Viin Scullly and John Wooden..
  um na es as J mmy S ewa V n Scu y and John Wooden

         So, for me personally, watching Pete Carroll rise to this level has been a particular

thrill ride. You see, the first time I ever heard of Pete Carroll was my freshman year at

Redwood High School in Marin County, a leafy suburb of San Francisco, located just

north of the Golden Gate Bridge. The tradition at Redwood was to hang photos of

baseball, football and basketball captains in the boys' locker room. One would look up

and see the visage of young sports heroes of previous years. I noticed that Carroll graced

not one but three photos on that wall. He was pictured as captain in his football,

basketball and baseball uniforms. I immediately deduced that he must be a special athlete

and leader. For young athletes like myself, guys like Pete Carroll were something to

aspire to, to emulate.

          Bob Trroppmann was sttiilll coachiing ffoottballl att Redwood when II arrrriived ttherre.. He
           Bob T oppmann was s coach ng oo ba a Redwood when a ved he e He
had been ttherre siince tthe schooll opened fforr busiiness iin 1958 and had buiilltt iitt iintto a Bay
 had been he e s nce he schoo opened o bus ness n 1958 and had bu                            n o a Bay
Arrea powerr.. Coach Trroppmann,, as iitt tturrned outt,, was an olld ffamiilly ffrriiend.. My ffattherr,,
 A ea powe Coach T oppmann as u ned ou was an o d am y end My a he
Donalld Trraverrs,, had been a grreatt ttrrack and crross counttrry coach att Lowellll and Ballboa
 Dona d T ave s had been a g ea ack and c oss coun y coach a Lowe and Ba boa
Hiigh Schoolls iin San Frranciisco.. Coach Trroppmann had come outt off tthe Marriine Corrps,,
 H gh Schoo s n San F anc sco Coach T oppmann had come ou o he Ma ne Co ps
gottten hiis tteachiing crredenttiiall,, and was a young tteacherr//coach att Lowelll when he mett and
 go en h s each ng c eden a and was a young eache coach a Lowe when he me and
beffrriiended my ffattherr..
 be ended my a he
          By tthe ttiime II entterred Redwood,, my dad had become an atttorrney and Coach
           By he me en e ed Redwood my dad had become an a o ney and Coach
Trroppmann had moved acrross tthe bay tto Marriin.. He was a genuiinelly niice,, apprroachablle
 T oppmann had moved ac oss he bay o Ma n He was a genu ne y n ce app oachab e
man and II offtten soughtt hiim outt fforr knowlledge off one kiind orr anottherr.. One off my ffiirrstt
 man and o en sough h m ou o know edge o one k nd o ano he One o my s
questtiions concerrned Pette Carrrrollll,, who iimprressed me fforr haviing capttaiined tthrree varrsiitty
 ques ons conce ned Pe e Ca o who mp essed me o hav ng cap a ned h ee va s y
tteams.. Coach Trroppmann jjustt smiilled when rremiinded off Carrrrolll,, who had siince gone ontto
  eams Coach T oppmann us sm ed when em nded o Ca o who had s nce gone on o
tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Paciiffiic on a ffoottballl schollarrshiip,, made alll--confferrence as a deffensiive
   he Un ve s y o Pac c on a oo ba scho a sh p made a con e ence as a de ens ve
back,, and was a prromiisiing young coach,, moviing up tthe rranks.. The affffecttiion and iindeed
 back and was a p om s ng young coach mov ng up he anks The a ec on and ndeed
admiirrattiion Coach Trroppmann ffelltt fforr Pette Carrrrollll was obviious even tthen..
 adm a on Coach T oppmann e o Pe e Ca o was obv ous even hen
              Overr tthe yearrs,, II asked many off tthe coaches att Redwood who had menttorred Pette
               Ove he yea s asked many o he coaches a Redwood who had men o ed Pe e
Carrrrollll aboutt hiim.. Jess Payan,, Phiill Roarrk,, Diick Harrtt,, All Endrriiss;; alll had posiittiive worrds
 Ca o abou h m Jess Payan Ph Roa k D ck Ha A End ss a had pos ve wo ds
tto descrriibe Pette Carrrrolll,, butt one sttorry rreallly sttands outt.. Coach Endrriiss was a baseballl
   o desc be Pe e Ca o bu one s o y ea y s ands ou Coach End ss was a baseba
llegend,, and iin ffactt my jjuniiorr yearr he was named Nattiionall Hiigh Schooll Coach off tthe
   egend and n ac my un o yea he was named Na ona H gh Schoo Coach o he
Yearr.. IIn my seniiorr yearr we werre tthe nattiionall champiions off prrep baseballl..
 Yea n my sen o yea we we e he na ona champ ons o p ep baseba
              Today,, Redwood has a new sttatte off tthe arrtt ffaciilliitty,, butt iin my day ourr ffiielld was
               Today Redwood has a new s a e o he a ac y bu n my day ou e d was
consiiderred one off tthe bettterr yarrds iin tthe arrea.. Ourr centterr ffiielld ffence ciirrclled hiigh overr tthe
 cons de ed one o he be e ya ds n he a ea Ou cen e e d ence c c ed h gh ove he
adjjacentt ttrrack.. Offtten ttrrack meetts werre helld durriing baseballl games,, and a hiigh home rrun
 ad acen ack O en ack mee s we e he d du ng baseba games and a h gh home un
miightt diisrruptt prroceediings,, butt iin Pette Carrrrolll's day ttherre was no ffence.. Exttrra--base hiitts
 m gh d s up p oceed ngs bu n Pe e Ca o 's day he e was no ence Ex a base h s
sllammed overr tthe centterr ffiiellderr's head woulld lland on tthe ttrrack and bound ontto tthe
 s ammed ove he cen e e de 's head wou d and on he ack and bound on o he
ffoottballll ffiielld,, whiich serrved as tthe llocattiion fforr eventts such as tthe shott--putt and tthe diiscuss
    oo ba e d wh ch se ved as he oca on o even s such as he sho pu and he d scuss
tthrrow.. A boundiing outtffiiellderr woulld ttrraiipse iintto tthe miidstt off tthiis scene,, grrab tthe balll and
   h ow A bound ng ou e de wou d a pse n o he m ds o h s scene g ab he ba and
tthrrow iitt back tto tthe iinffiielld,, offtten amiid much currsiing and yellliing..
   h ow back o he n e d o en am d much cu s ng and ye ng
              My ffavorriitte Pette Carrrrolll sttorry somehow seems tto symbolliize tthe serrendiipiitty tthatt
               My avo e Pe e Ca o s o y somehow seems o symbo ze he se end p y ha
iis hiis lliiffe.. He was rroamiing tthe centterr ffiielld pastturres when a llong drriive was hiitt overr hiis
   s h s e He was oam ng he cen e e d pas u es when a ong d ve was h ove h s
head.. Pette headed back fforr iitt,, iinttentt,, concenttrrattiing on tthe balll.. He iignorred tthe cementt
 head Pe e headed back o                       n en concen a ng on he ba He gno ed he cemen
cllefftt separrattiing tthe ttrrack ffrrom tthe outtffiielld grrass,, tthe rrunniing llanes a sorrtt off "warrniing
 c e sepa a ng he ack om he ou e d g ass he unn ng anes a so o "wa n ng
ttrrack" tthatt he paiid no attttenttiion tto..
     ack" ha he pa d no a en on o
              A rrellay rrace was iin mottiion and as Pette chased tthatt balll down,, a bevy off rrunnerrs,,
               A e ay ace was n mo on and as Pe e chased ha ba down a bevy o unne s
maybe tthrree orr ffourr ttiighttlly bound ttogettherr,, came sprriinttiing arround tthe tturrn,, headiing
 maybe h ee o ou gh y bound oge he came sp n ng a ound he u n head ng
sttrraiightt fforr Pette Carrrrolll..
 s a gh o Pe e Ca o
              Nobody -- nott tthe rrunnerrs,, Pette orr tthe baseballl -- paiid any atttenttiion tto each ottherr.. A
               Nobody no he unne s Pe e o he baseba pa d any a en on o each o he A
gasp wentt up,, ffrrom tthe wattchiing ttrrackstterrs,, ffrrom tthe baseballl pllayerrs shouttiing a warrniing,,
 gasp wen up om he wa ch ng acks e s om he baseba p aye s shou ng a wa n ng
and tthe ffans iin tthe sttands.. Two llocomottiives werre aboutt tto colllliide iin a massiive ttrraiin
 and he ans n he s ands Two ocomo ves we e abou o co de n a mass ve a n
wrreck!!
 w eck
              As quiicklly as iitt develloped,, iitt ended.. Pette caughtt tthe balll,, whiirrlled,, and made a
               As qu ck y as deve oped ended Pe e caugh he ba wh ed and made a
Wiilllliie Mays--sttylle tthrrow back tto tthe iinffiielld.. The ttrrack rrunnerrs conttiinued tto kiick down tthe
 W e Mays s y e h ow back o he n e d The ack unne s con nued o k ck down he
sttrrettch.. Everrybody -- tthe baseballl outtffiiellderr,, tthe rrunnerrs and tthe balll -- had miissed each
 s e ch Eve ybody he baseba ou e de he unne s and he ba had m ssed each
ottherr by iinches,, alll as iiff chorreogrraphed lliike a beauttiiffull balllett..
 o he by nches a as cho eog aphed ke a beau u ba e
              Forr some rreason,, tthiis sttorry iis tthe sttorry off Pette Carrrrolll's charrmed lliiffe.. Good
               Fo some eason h s s o y s he s o y o Pe e Ca o 's cha med e Good
ttiimiing combiined wiitth skiillll.. A lliittttlle lluck and a llott off ffocus.. IIn tthe end,, everrytthiing allways
    m ng comb ned w h sk A                        e uck and a o o ocus n he end eve y h ng a ways
seems tto tturrn outt jjustt rriightt wiitth tthiis man..
 seems o u n ou us gh w h h s man
              II ffolllowed Coach Carrrrollll''s coachiing carreerr.. He was menttorred by such ttop--nottch
                   o owed Coach Ca o s coach ng ca ee He was men o ed by such op no ch
ffiigurres as Lou Hollttz att Arrkansas,, Earrlle Brruce att Ohiio Sttatte,, Montte Kiiffffiin att Norrtth
     gu es as Lou Ho z a A kansas Ea e B uce a Oh o S a e Mon e K n a No h
Carrolliina Sttatte,, Bud Grrantt and Jerrrry Burrns iin Miinnesotta,, Brruce Cosllett iin New Yorrk,, tthen
 Ca o na S a e Bud G an and Je y Bu ns n M nneso a B uce Cos e n New Yo k hen
Georrge Seiifferrtt and Biilll Wallsh iin San Frranciisco.. Att some poiintt iin tthe llatte 1980s orr earrlly
 Geo ge Se e and B Wa sh n San F anc sco A some po n n he a e 1980s o ea y
'90s,, Carrrrollll's name began tto surrfface on tthe shorrtt lliistt off head coachiing candiidattes iin tthe
 '90s Ca o 's name began o su ace on he sho s o head coach ng cand da es n he
 Na ona Foo ba League t was on y a ma e o me and n 1994 he was e eva ed om
Nattiionall Foottballll League.. IIt was onlly a matttterr off ttiime,, and iin 1994 he was ellevatted ffrrom
deffensiive coorrdiinattorr tto head coach off tthe New Yorrk Jetts.. The guy ffrrom my hiigh schooll
 de ens ve coo d na o o head coach o he New Yo k Je s The guy om my h gh schoo
was now on tthe spott iin tthe ffiish bowll tthatt iis tthe Biig Applle,, coachiing tthe same tteam tthatt
 was now on he spo n he sh bow ha s he B g App e coach ng he same eam ha
"Brroadway Joe" Namatth had once ttaken tto tthe Superr Bowll.. When tthe Jetts ffalltterred and
 "B oadway Joe" Nama h had once aken o he Supe Bow When he Je s a e ed and
Pette was unffaiirrlly llett go afftterr onlly one season,, iitt seemed tthatt hiis hiirriing by hiis homettown
 Pe e was un a y e go a e on y one season seemed ha h s h ng by h s home own
tteam,, tthe San Frranciisco 49errs,, was tthe bllessiing diisguiised by hiis diismiissall..
   eam he San F anc sco 49e s was he b ess ng d sgu sed by h s d sm ssa
            The 49errs werre comiing offff a worrlld champiionshiip season and werre sttiilll iin tthe
             The 49e s we e com ng o a wo d champ onsh p season and we e s                                    n he
miiddlle off a dynastty perrhaps unmattched iin NFL annalls.. One off ttheiirr sttarr pllayerrs was Ken
 m dd e o a dynas y pe haps unma ched n NFL anna s One o he s a p aye s was Ken
Norrtton Jrr..,, an Allll--Amerriican lliinebackerr ffrrom UCLA,, and now an Alll--Prro.. IItt appearred tthatt
 No on J an A Ame can nebacke om UCLA and now an A P o appea ed ha
Pette was tthe heiirr apparrentt tto become tthe head coach off a ffrranchiise tthatt had won ffiive
 Pe e was he he appa en o become he head coach o a anch se ha had won ve
Superr Bowlls iin tthe prreviious 14 yearrs.. Biilll Wallsh was sttiilll a maiinsttay iin San Frranciisco's
 Supe Bow s n he p ev ous 14 yea s B Wa sh was s a ma ns ay n San F anc sco's
ffrrontt offffiice,, and he ttuttorred Pette tto ffollllow tthatt verry patth..
    on o ce and he u o ed Pe e o o ow ha ve y pa h
            Thiis pllan,, howeverr,, diid nott matterriialliize.. The New Englland Pattrriiotts needed a head
             Th s p an howeve d d no ma e a ze The New Eng and Pa o s needed a head
coach,, and tthey wentt afftterr Pette Carrrrolll,, so iitt was back tto tthe Eastt Coastt fforr tthe Calliifforrniia
 coach and hey wen a e Pe e Ca o so was back o he Eas Coas o he Ca o n a
kiid.. Bostton iis,, and back tthen especiiallly was,, a baseballl ttown.. The "Grreen Monstterr" att
 k d Bos on s and back hen espec a y was a baseba own The "G een Mons e " a
Fenway Parrk seemed tto lloom menaciinglly overr Pette.. Coach Carrrrolll was ttherre fforr tthrree
 Fenway Pa k seemed o oom menac ng y ove Pe e Coach Ca o was he e o h ee
seasons ((1997--99)).. The Pattrriiotts werre 10--6,, 9--7 and 8--8.. They made tthe pllay--offffs ttwiice,,
 seasons 1997 99 The Pa o s we e 10 6 9 7 and 8 8 They made he p ay o s w ce
butt diid nott atttaiin tthe Brrass Riing.. Carrrrolll had a pllan,, butt iitt was allways iin confflliictt wiitth tthe
 bu d d no a a n he B ass R ng Ca o had a p an bu was a ways n con c w h he
viisiion off tthe ownerr,, tthe generrall managerr,, tthe scouttiing deparrttmentt,, tthe merrcenarry
 v s on o he owne he gene a manage he scou ng depa men he me cena y
pllayerrs,, tthe natturre off ffrree agency,, even tthe ffans and Bostton mediia.. They alll began tto
 p aye s he na u e o ee agency even he ans and Bos on med a They a began o
harrp tthatt Pette's youtthffull exuberrance,, hiis sandy--bllonde haiirr and 1960s Beach Boys
 ha p ha Pe e's you h u exube ance h s sandy b onde ha and 1960s Beach Boys
demeanorr was nott compattiiblle wiitth harrdscrrabblle,, Eastt Coastt--sttylle prro ffoottballl.. They
 demeano was no compa b e w h ha dsc abb e Eas Coas s y e p o oo ba They
wantted Biilll Parrcellls,, nott Brriian Wiillson..
 wan ed B Pa ce s no B an W son
            Butt Pette's ffiirriing was tthe siillverr lliiniing iinsiide a darrk clloud,, because iitt lled hiim tto
             Bu Pe e's ng was he s ve n ng ns de a da k c oud because ed h m o

USC.. Hiis ffutturre was nott wiitth tthe 49errs,, as prreviiouslly suspectted,, norr was iitt iin tthe
USC H s u u e was no w h he 49e s as p ev ous y suspec ed no was n he

Nattiionall Foottballll League.. Att USC,, Carrrrollll ttook overr a ffounderriing shiip.. The herriittage off
Na ona Foo ba League A USC Ca o ook ove a ounde ng sh p The he age o

Trrojjan ffoottballll was now yestterrday,, iitts ttrrophiies collllecttiing dustt,, iitts llegacy seemiinglly
T o an oo ba was now yes e day s oph es co ec ng dus s egacy seem ng y

anciientt hiisttorry.. IItt was tthe Miillllenniium yearr and rrettrrospecttiives werre beiing wrriittten aboutt
anc en h s o y was he M enn um yea and e ospec ves we e be ng w en abou

tthe centturry tthatt was.. Souttherrn Calliifforrniia was decllarred tto be tthe "Atthllettiic Prrogrram off tthe
  he cen u y ha was Sou he n Ca o n a was dec a ed o be he "A h e c P og am o he

Centturry.." Rod Dedeaux,, who guiided Trroy tto 11 off ttheiirr Colllege Worrlld Serriies ttiittlles,, was
Cen u y " Rod Dedeaux who gu ded T oy o 11 o he Co ege Wo d Se es es was

named "Colllege Baseballl Coach off tthe Centturry,," and tthe USC baseballll prrogrram was
named "Co ege Baseba Coach o he Cen u y " and he USC baseba p og am was

unquesttiionablly tthe grreattestt hiisttorriicallly,, haviing added a 12tth nattiionall ttiittlle underr Miike
unques onab y he g ea es h s o ca y hav ng added a 12 h na ona                                   e unde M ke

Giillllespiie iin 1998.. USC conttiinued iitts amaziing rrun off Golld medalls att tthe 2000 Sydney
G esp e n 1998 USC con nued s amaz ng un o Go d meda s a he 2000 Sydney

Ollympiics.. A Trrojjan had won Golld att each Games helld siince 1904..
O ymp cs A T o an had won Go d a each Games he d s nce 1904

         Butt tthe ffoottballll prrogrram was iin diisarrrray.. IIn 1982,, USC had seemiinglly "caughtt up
         Bu he oo ba p og am was n d sa ay n 1982 USC had seem ng y "caugh up

tto" Nottrre Dame.. Thatt yearr tthey beatt tthe Fiighttiing IIrriish fforr tthe ffiifftth sttrraiightt season,, and
  o" No e Dame Tha yea hey bea he F gh ng sh o he h s a gh season and

had onlly llostt tto tthem ttwiice siince 1966.. The head--tto--head rrecorrd off tthe ttwo schoolls was
had on y os o hem w ce s nce 1966 The head o head eco d o he wo schoo s was

nearrlly even.. Marrcus Alllen had won USC's ffourrtth Heiisman Trrophy tthe prreviious season,,
nea y even Ma cus A en had won USC's ou h He sman T ophy he p ev ous season
and tthe 1978 nattiionall champiionshiip was Trroy''s niintth.. John Robiinson,, Marrv Goux and
and he 1978 na ona champ onsh p was T oy s n n h John Rob nson Ma v Goux and

Rod Dedeaux werre sttiilll coachiing,, butt iin ttrrutth iitt was tthe end off a gollden erra;; an erra iin
Rod Dedeaux we e s coach ng bu n u h was he end o a go den e a an e a n

whiich John McKay and Robiinson had lled USC durriing a perriiod iin whiich iitt seemed tthatt
wh ch John McKay and Rob nson had ed USC du ng a pe od n wh ch seemed ha

tthey,, nott Nottrre Dame,, was tthe new,, moderrn "champiions" off colllege ffoottballl hiisttorry..
  hey no No e Dame was he new mode n "champ ons" o co ege oo ba h s o y

            Butt afftterr tthatt 17--13 Trrojjan wiin overr tthe IIrriish iin 1982,, tthe rrooff ffelll iin,, biig ttiime..
             Bu a e ha 17 13 T o an w n ove he sh n 1982 he oo e n b g me
Robiinson announced he was goiing tto tthe Los Angelles Rams and brriingiing Goux wiitth
 Rob nson announced he was go ng o he Los Ange es Rams and b ng ng Goux w h
hiim.. The NCAA lleviied penallttiies agaiinstt USC.. Ted Tolllnerr was brroughtt iin,,
 h m The NCAA ev ed pena es aga ns USC Ted To ne was b ough n
bllasphemouslly changiing tthe offffensiive culltturre off Trrojjan ffoottballl ffrrom grround--orriientted
 b asphemous y chang ng he o ens ve cu u e o T o an oo ba om g ound o en ed
domiinance tto Brriigham Young--sttylle aerriiall ffiinesse.. The "aiirr" was quiicklly llett outt off tthe
 dom nance o B gham Young s y e ae a nesse The "a " was qu ck y e ou o he
ttiirre.. Lou Hollttz was hiirred att Nottrre Dame and tthe Fiighttiing IIrriish neverr llostt tto Souttherrn
      e Lou Ho z was h ed a No e Dame and he F gh ng sh neve os o Sou he n
Calliifforrniia ffrrom 1983 tto 1995..
 Ca o n a om 1983 o 1995
            Everrytthiing seemed tto go wrrong.. Peoplle sttarrtted tto callll USC "Yestterrday U.."
             Eve y h ng seemed o go w ong Peop e s a ed o ca USC "Yes e day U "
Symbolliic powerr shiifftts and bad omens werre everrywherre.. By tthe 1990s,, USC was a
 Symbo c powe sh s and bad omens we e eve ywhe e By he 1990s USC was a
successffull prrogrram,, butt nobody''s iidea off a powerrhouse as iin ttheiirr sttorriied pastt.. Nottrre
 success u p og am bu nobody s dea o a powe house as n he s o ed pas No e
Dame,, Allabama,, Okllahoma,, Nebrraska;; new champiions att Miiamii and Fllorriida Sttatte;; iitt
 Dame A abama Ok ahoma Neb aska new champ ons a M am and F o da S a e
seemed tthatt tthese schoolls had achiieved a llevell tthatt was no llongerr a rreasonablle
 seemed ha hese schoo s had ach eved a eve ha was no onge a easonab e
expecttattiion fforr Trrojjan ffans..
 expec a on o T o an ans
            Drr.. Stteven Samplle was brroughtt iin as prresiidentt off tthe Uniiverrsiitty,, and he overrsaw
             D S even Samp e was b ough n as p es den o he Un ve s y and he ove saw
a huge upgrrade iin academiic sttandarrds.. IItt seemed tthatt a ttrrade--offff had been made iin whiich
 a huge upg ade n academ c s anda ds seemed ha a ade o had been made n wh ch
USC had chosen tto be a grreatt uniiverrsiitty iinsttead off a grreatt ffoottballll tteam.. The ttwo werre
 USC had chosen o be a g ea un ve s y ns ead o a g ea oo ba eam The wo we e
iincompattiiblle,, peoplle saiid..
   ncompa b e peop e sa d
            Los Angelles and Souttherrn Calliifforrniia,, once tthe centterr off tthe Amerriican polliittiicall
             Los Ange es and Sou he n Ca o n a once he cen e o he Ame can po ca
uniiverrse,, tthe pllace tthatt had prroduced Prresiidentts Riicharrd Niixon and Ronalld Reagan,,
 un ve se he p ace ha had p oduced P es den s R cha d N xon and Rona d Reagan
allong wiitth nearrby Orrange Countty -- tthe epiicentterr off tthe conserrvattiive movementt -- now
 a ong w h nea by O ange Coun y he ep cen e o he conse va ve movemen now
saw a shiifftt tto Norrttherrn Calliifforrniia.. The Rams and tthe Raiiderrs botth deserrtted Los Angelles,,
 saw a sh o No he n Ca o n a The Rams and he Ra de s bo h dese ed Los Ange es
whiille tthe 49errs werre a dynastty.. Botth USC and UCLA no llongerr domiinatted Calliifforrniia
 wh e he 49e s we e a dynas y Bo h USC and UCLA no onge dom na ed Ca o n a
and Sttanfforrd as tthey had fforr decades.. IIn tthe 1990s,, tthe onlly champiion,, prro orr colllege,, tto
 and S an o d as hey had o decades n he 1990s he on y champ on p o o co ege o
emerrge ffrrom L..A.. was UCLA's baskettballl tteam iin 1995..
 eme ge om L A was UCLA's baske ba eam n 1995
            Attttendance and entthusiiasm was down everrywherre.. An earrtthquake shook tthe
             A endance and en hus asm was down eve ywhe e An ea hquake shook he
Soutthlland.. A drriive--by bullllett durriing prracttiice grrazed a Trrojjan ffoottballl pllayerr.. Riiotts
 Sou h and A d ve by bu e du ng p ac ce g azed a T o an oo ba p aye R o s
surrrrounded tthe campus iin 1992.. Orrange Countty decllarred bankrrupttcy..
 su ounded he campus n 1992 O ange Coun y dec a ed bank up cy
            Butt Pette Carrrrollll's hiirriing iin 2000 came nearr tthe begiinniing off a majjorr rreviittalliizattiion
             Bu Pe e Ca o 's h ng n 2000 came nea he beg nn ng o a ma o ev a za on
iin Los Angelles.. IItt sttarrtted wiitth Mayorr Riicharrd Riiorrdan's genttrriiffiicattiion campaiign off tthe
   n Los Ange es s a ed w h Mayo R cha d R o dan's gen                                  ca on campa gn o he
1990s.. Crriime was rreduced iin tthe ciitty.. New buiilldiings,, busiinesses and iimprroved
 1990s C me was educed n he c y New bu d ngs bus nesses and mp oved
neiighborrhoods rrepllaced blliightt.. The corrrriidorr bettween USC and downttown L..A.. was
 ne ghbo hoods ep aced b gh The co do be ween USC and down own L A was
iimprroved drrasttiicalllly,, ffiirrstt by tthe buiilldiing off STAPLES Centterr iin 1999,, llatterr ffollllowed by
   mp oved d as ca y s by he bu d ng o STAPLES Cen e n 1999 a e o owed by
openiing off tthe Gallen Centterr att USC.. The neiighborrhood surrrroundiing tthe USC campus
 open ng o he Ga en Cen e a USC The ne ghbo hood su ound ng he USC campus
was iimprroved by lleaps and bounds.. Crriime was rreduced.. Aiirr qualliitty sttandarrds paiid offff,,
 was mp oved by eaps and bounds C me was educed A qua y s anda ds pa d o
and smog iin tthe L..A.. basiin was clleaned up..
 and smog n he L A bas n was c eaned up
            Carrrrolll overrsaw a herriittage rresttorred,, lleadiing USC tto nattiionall champiionshiips iin
             Ca o ove saw a he age es o ed ead ng USC o na ona champ onsh ps n
2003 and 2004,, tthrree Heiisman Trrophiies,, ttwo Orrange Bowll and tthrree Rose Bowll
 2003 and 2004 h ee He sman T oph es wo O ange Bow and h ee Rose Bow
viicttorriies,, 33 sttrraiightt numberr one rrankiings,, a 34--game wiinniing sttrreak,, and afftterr siix
 v c o es 33 s a gh numbe one ank ngs a 34 game w nn ng s eak and a e s x
sttrraiightt wiins overr Nottrre Dame iin 2007,, cllearr prrooff tthatt USC was now tthe grreattestt
 s a gh w ns ove No e Dame n 2007 c ea p oo ha USC was now he g ea es
hiisttorriicall colllegiiatte ffoottballl dynastty off alll ttiime.. Mostt iimporrttantt,, Carrrrolll had ascended tto
 h s o ca co eg a e oo ba dynas y o a me Mos mpo an Ca o had ascended o
a pllace off llegendarry sttattus on parr wiitth tthe lliikes off Knutte Rockne,, Pop Warrnerr,, Howarrd
 a p ace o egenda y s a us on pa w h he kes o Knu e Rockne Pop Wa ne Howa d
Jones,, Frrank Leahy,, Bud Wiillkiinson,, John McKay,, Bearr Brryantt,, and Tom Osborrne,, alll
 Jones F ank Leahy Bud W k nson John McKay Bea B yan and Tom Osbo ne a
tthe whiille maiinttaiiniing tthe hiigh academiic sttandarrds sett by Drr.. Samplle iin tthe yearrs befforre
   he wh e ma n a n ng he h gh academ c s anda ds se by D Samp e n he yea s be o e
hiis hiirriing..
 h s h ng
             Butt tthatt was nott allll.. Pette Carrrrolll was tthe head coach off a uniiverrsiitty llocatted iin tthe
              Bu ha was no a Pe e Ca o was he head coach o a un ve s y oca ed n he
miiddlle off tthe iinnerr ciitty.. Many off hiis pllayerrs werre ffrrom tthose mean sttrreetts.. The schooll's
 m dd e o he nne c y Many o h s p aye s we e om hose mean s ee s The schoo 's
ffan base was iin llarrge parrtt ffrrom tthose neiighborrhoods.. Pette Carrrrolll,, tthe anoiintted one,, tthe
    an base was n a ge pa                 om hose ne ghbo hoods Pe e Ca o he ano n ed one he
gollden boy,, tthe fforrttunatte son and ffoottballl deiitty off Souttherrn Calliifforrniia,, was makiing
 go den boy he o una e son and oo ba de y o Sou he n Ca o n a was mak ng
miilllliions,, lliiviing tthe drream,, iin charrge att a prresttiigiious,, moneyed prriivatte iinsttiittuttiion.. Butt
 m ons v ng he d eam n cha ge a a p es g ous moneyed p va e ns u on Bu
iinsttead off concenttrrattiing onlly on grriidiirron gllorry,, hob--nobbiing wiitth ffatt--catt allums and ttheiirr
   ns ead o concen a ng on y on g d on g o y hob nobb ng w h a ca a ums and he
ttrrophy wiives,, Pette Carrrrollll knew how llucky he was and wantted tto pass tthatt lluck arround..
     ophy w ves Pe e Ca o knew how ucky he was and wan ed o pass ha uck a ound
             Many peoplle perrfforrm varriious fforrms off "communiitty serrviice.." Offtten tthatt means
              Many peop e pe o m va ous o ms o "commun y se v ce " O en ha means
attttachiing one's name tto some ffoundattiion orr anottherr,, orr showiing up att a rriibbon--cutttiing
 a ach ng one's name o some ounda on o ano he o show ng up a a bbon cu ng
cerremony.. Therre iis rrarrelly any rreall "serrviice,," and whatt ttherre iis offtten iis rreserrved fforr tthe
 ce emony The e s a e y any ea "se v ce " and wha he e s o en s ese ved o he
TV camerras orr sound biittes,, alll iin a concenttrratted publliic rrellattiions efffforrtt tto polliish an
 TV came as o sound b es a n a concen a ed pub c e a ons e o o po sh an
iimage..
   mage
             Butt Pette,, who grrew up iin wealltthy Marriin and had neverr known wantt,, deciided tto
              Bu Pe e who g ew up n wea hy Ma n and had neve known wan dec ded o
ttrry and make a diifffferrence.. He beffrriiended a llocall communiitty acttiiviistt iin soutth--centtrrall Los
     y and make a d e ence He be ended a oca commun y ac v s n sou h cen a Los
Angelles who drrove tthose mean sttrreetts rregullarrlly,, llatte att niightt,, iin an efffforrtt tto gett kiids tto
 Ange es who d ove hose mean s ee s egu a y a e a n gh n an e o o ge k ds o
quiitt drrugs,, quiitt tthe gang lliiffe,, tturrn away ffrrom crriime,, tto ffiind meaniing,, tto ffiind God,, tto rriightt
 qu d ugs qu he gang e u n away om c me o nd mean ng o nd God o gh
tthemsellves agaiinstt allll odds.. The man iinviitted Pette Carrrrolll tto rriide allong wiitth hiim on hiis
   hemse ves aga ns a odds The man nv ed Pe e Ca o o de a ong w h h m on h s
dangerrous sojjourrns.. Pette saiid surre,, and tthe man tthoughtt,, "Yeah,, rriightt.." Then one niightt
 dange ous so ou ns Pe e sa d su e and he man hough "Yeah gh " Then one n gh
Pette calllled hiim up and saiid,, "Lett's go.."
 Pe e ca ed h m up and sa d "Le 's go "
             So tthey diid.. Nott once,, nott ttwiice,, butt rrepeattedlly.. IInsttead off brreakiing down ffiillm,,
              So hey d d No once no w ce bu epea ed y ns ead o b eak ng down m
rrecrruiittiing,, schmooziing orr llookiing fforr endorrsementt dealls,, Pette Carrrrolll was showiing up att
    ec u ng schmooz ng o ook ng o endo semen dea s Pe e Ca o was show ng up a
lliiquorr sttorres,, sttrreett corrnerrs and crrack houses wherre young bllack and Hiispaniic men werre
     quo s o es s ee co ne s and c ack houses whe e young b ack and H span c men we e
gattherriing diirrecttlly iin harrm's way.. The men woulld warriilly llook att tthe carr pullliing tto a sttop,,
 ga he ng d ec y n ha m's way The men wou d wa y ook a he ca pu ng o a s op
ffiigurriing iitt tto be an underrcoverr narrc,, a bustt,, a drrug buy.. Then Pette Carrrrolll woulld gett outt
     gu ng o be an unde cove na c a bus a d ug buy Then Pe e Ca o wou d ge ou
and apprroach tthem,, and tthey woulld nott belliieve ttheiirr eyes..
 and app oach hem and hey wou d no be eve he eyes
             Pette has a rreall qualliitty tto hiim tthatt cannott be manuffactturred.. Eiittherr you have iitt orr
              Pe e has a ea qua y o h m ha canno be manu ac u ed E he you have o

you do nott.. A whiitte,, miiddlle--aged suburrban man iin a gollff shiirrtt and bllow--drriied haiirr llacks
you do no A wh e m dd e aged subu ban man n a go sh and b ow d ed ha acks

any sttrreett crred iin soutth--centtrrall,, butt when Pette opened up wiitth,, "Hey guys,, II''m Pette
any s ee c ed n sou h cen a bu when Pe e opened up w h "Hey guys m Pe e

Ca o " he had mmed a e panache G av as Wha eve he had canno be bough t s
Carrrrollll,," he had iimmediiatte panache.. Grraviittas.. Whatteverr he had,, iitt cannott be boughtt.. IIt iis

jjustt natturrall..
  us na u a

           Pette woulld ask tthe young men aboutt ttheiirr lliives,, ttheiirr ttrroublles,, tthe diiffffiicullttiies off
           Pe e wou d ask he young men abou he ves he oub es he d cu es o

surrviivall.. He woulld lliistten,, ttrry and hellp,, and ffolllow up iinsttead off payiing lliip serrviice.. Afftterr
su v va He wou d s en y and he p and o ow up ns ead o pay ng p se v ce A e

tthe ffiirrstt niightt,, he asked tto do iitt agaiin .. .. .. and agaiin .. .. .. and agaiin.. IItt wentt on lliike tthatt fforr
  he s n gh he asked o do aga n                               and aga n           and aga n wen on ke ha o
a llong ttiime.. Pette arrrranged fforr some off tthe young men he mett tto gett jjobs att tthe
a ong me Pe e a anged o some o he young men he me o ge obs a he

Uniiverrsiitty.. He made a concerrtted efffforrtt tto hellp tthem.. Alll off tthiis happened underr tthe
Un ve s y He made a conce ed e o o he p hem A o h s happened unde he

rradarr.. Pette ttolld ffew peoplle aboutt iitt.. The prress neverr gott wiind off iitt.. IItt was nott a publliic
  ada Pe e o d ew peop e abou                     The p ess neve go w nd o                     was no a pub c

  e a ons gamb t was ea
rrellattiions gambiitt.. IIt was rreall..

           One niightt iin 2007,, a wrriitterr ffrrom Los Angelles magaziine arrrriived att Herriittage Halll tto
           One n gh n 2007 a w e om Los Ange es magaz ne a ved a He age Ha o

do a Pette Carrrrollll prroffiille.. As tthe iintterrviiew wound down,, tthe man who drrove Pette Carrrrollll
do a Pe e Ca o p o e As he n e v ew wound down he man who d ove Pe e Ca o

arround tthe iinnerr ciitty arrrriived fforr one off ttheiirr sojjourrns.. The magaziine wrriitterr had no iidea
a ound he nne c y a ved o one o he so ou ns The magaz ne w e had no dea

whatt was happeniing.. Pette neverr ttallked aboutt,, neverr brragged aboutt whatt a humaniittarriian,,
wha was happen ng Pe e neve a ked abou neve b agged abou wha a human a an

whatt a "lliiberrall" he was.. Therre was a brriieff perriiod off conffusiion,, iin whiich Pette ttrriied tto hiide
wha a " be a " he was The e was a b e pe od o con us on n wh ch Pe e ed o h de

whatt was goiing on ffrrom tthe wrriitterr,, butt afftterr a ffew questtiions iitt became cllearr whatt tthe
wha was go ng on om he w e bu a e a ew ques ons became c ea wha he

coach off tthe Trrojjans was up tto.. Pette rrellentted.. He rrellucttanttlly iinviitted tthe wrriitterr tto rriide
coach o he T o ans was up o Pe e e en ed He e uc an y nv ed he w e o de

allong,, and so he diid.. When tthe arrttiiclle appearred llatte iin tthe season,, tthe catt was outt off tthe
a ong and so he d d When he a c e appea ed a e n he season he ca was ou o he

bag.. When Pette was questtiioned aboutt iitt att allumnii gattherriings,, he diispllayed grreatt
bag When Pe e was ques oned abou a a umn ga he ngs he d sp ayed g ea

knowlledge off iinnerr ciitty lliiffe;; sttattiisttiics,, prrogrrams tthatt worrk vs.. tthose tthatt do nott,, a ttrrue
know edge o nne c y e s a s cs p og ams ha wo k vs hose ha do no a ue

devottiion tto tthe cause.. IItt was,, lliike allll ottherr tthiings iin hiis lliiffe,, rreall..
devo on o he cause was ke a o he h ngs n h s e ea

           This is why Coach Carroll succeeds. He has a rare, natural ability to get along

with everybody, whether it be the inner city black kid, the suburban blue chipper, the

country boy; old, young, rich, poor, male or female. To be recruited by Pete Carroll is to

be mesmerized by his charm and truthful qualities, and it invariably means deciding to

cast one's lot with this man. Parents instinctively want their children to be a part of the

Trojan family.

        Pete Carroll is New Age. He is Marin County cool, talking the talk of a surf dude,
yet he still has a deep, resonant respect for the traditions of the University of Southern
California. He knows the John McKay story. He loves that Sam "Bam" Cunningham and
the Trojans went into the Deep South and helped to end segregation. He is proud of the
legacy of his school and carries it on. He got to know Marv Goux and took the time to
find out the essence of this place, this hallowed shrine. But Pete treats everybody the
same, whether you are Marv Goux or a student intern.
       Another Pete Carroll story. In October of 2007 I was doing a series of book

signings, guest lectures in classes, and speeches at USC for my book One Night, Two

Teams: Alabama vs. USC and the Game That Changed a Nation. It was a Monday

afternoon in the middle of the season. I went to Pete's office at Heritage Hall to drop off

a signed copy of my book, figuring he was busy and I would just leave it with his

secretary. I identified myself and asked if he had just a minute to come out and say hello.

His secretary entered his office, then came back out and said, "Pete wants to talk to you."

I sat on the sofa in the main lounge for a minute or so, and then out bounded Pete Carroll,

simultaneously recruiting a kid, planning practice and getting ready for Saturday's

opponent. He shook my hand and spoke with me for a few minutes as if I was important.

This is not an unusual Pete Carroll story. Everybody who meets him comes away with a

similar experience. It is the biggest secret of his success. How he does it, I do not know.

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Thiis book iis nott a merrcenarry efffforrtt.. II am prroud tto callll mysellff a Trrojjan,, and morre tto tthe
Th s book s no a me cena y e o                    am p oud o ca myse a T o an and mo e o he

poiintt,, II am verry llucky tto be a Trrojjan.. Some yearrs ago II was a prroffessiionall baseballl pllayerr
po n am ve y ucky o be a T o an Some yea s ago was a p o ess ona baseba p aye

wiitth tthe Stt.. Louiis Carrdiinalls and Oaklland A's orrganiizattiion wiitth a couplle off llackllustterr
w h he S Lou s Ca d na s and Oak and A's o gan za on w h a coup e o ack us e

yearrs off collllege "educattiion" underr my belltt.. When tthe A's rrelleased me,, II was lliittttlle morre
yea s o co ege "educa on" unde my be When he A's e eased me was                                      e mo e

tthan a colllege drropoutt.. II had allways wantted tto go tto USC,, butt my grrades,, my baseballll
  han a co ege d opou had a ways wan ed o go o USC bu my g ades my baseba

ttallentts;; any way II llooked att iitt,, II was a cutt bellow tthe sttandarrd.. Howeverr,, a grreatt Trrojjan,,
  a en s any way ooked a                      was a cu be ow he s anda d Howeve a g ea T o an

Drr.. Arrtt Verrge,, hellped me putt ttogettherr a package -- ttrranscrriiptts,, an essay,, lletttterrs off
D A Ve ge he ped me pu oge he a package ansc p s an essay e e s o

rrecommendattiion,, exttrra--currrriicullarr achiievementts -- tthatt II coulld prresentt tto tthe Uniiverrsiitty iin
  ecommenda on ex a cu cu a ach evemen s ha cou d p esen o he Un ve s y n

an efffforrtt tto ttrransfferr iin.. II made an appoiinttmentt wiitth Dellorres Homiisak,, a counsellorr wiitth
an e o o ans e n made an appo n men w h De o es Hom sak a counse o w h
tthe Schooll off Liiberrall Arrtts and Sciiences.. She ttolld me she woulld ttake a chance on me;; tthatt
  he Schoo o L be a A s and Sc ences She o d me she wou d ake a chance on me ha

II coulld ttrransfferr iintto USC on a prrobattiionarry sttattus.. II needed tto make ffiirrstt--cllass grrades iin
   cou d ans e n o USC on a p oba ona y s a us needed o make s c ass g ades n

academiic courrse worrk diirrectted ttowarrds a degrree iin communiicattiions.. II bucklled down,,
academ c cou se wo k d ec ed owa ds a deg ee n commun ca ons buck ed down

made tthe grrades,, and was mattrriicullatted.. Two yearrs llatterr II had a bachellorr's degrree.. Therre
made he g ades and was ma cu a ed Two yea s a e had a bache o 's deg ee The e

has allways been a parrtt off me tthatt cannott belliieve II made iitt,, tthatt II have tto piinch mysellff,,
has a ways been a pa o me ha canno be eve made                             ha have o p nch myse

and tthatt II sttiillll do nott reallly bellong,, butt II'm iin and II'm nott llettttiing go.. To me,, tthe ffourr
and ha s do no rea y be ong bu 'm n and 'm no e ng go To me he ou

books II have wrriittten aboutt tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Souttherrn Calliifforrniia arre my way off prroviing
books have w en abou he Un ve s y o Sou he n Ca o n a a e my way o p ov ng

tthatt II am a Trrojjan!!
  ha am a T o an

          What It Means to Be a Trojan means being a member of the Trojan family. That

family extends well beyond the borders of Los Angeles County and Southern California.

For me, it not only extended to but also thrived in Marin County, California. This is

Berkeley and Stanford country, but Golden Bears and Cardinal fans are forced to observe

proud Trojans within their midst.

          IItt sttarrtts,, fforr me att lleastt,, wiitth my ffattherr,, Donalld E.. Trraverrs.. He was a kiid iin San
               s a s o me a eas w h my a he Dona d E T ave s He was a k d n San

Frranciisco when USC pllayed Nottrre Dame iin 1931.. The game was brroadcastt on nattiionall
F anc sco when USC p ayed No e Dame n 1931 The game was b oadcas on na ona

rradiio,, a huge eventt att tthe ttiime.. The Cattholliic ffamiilly who lliived downsttaiirrs had a rradiio,,
  ad o a huge even a he me The Ca ho c am y who ved downs a s had a ad o

and my dad asked he cou d s en n The r sh ans chee ed No e Dame and pu down
and my dad asked iiff he coulld lliistten iin.. The IIriish ffans cheerred Nottrre Dame and putt down

tthe Trrojjans,, lliiberrallly iintterrsperrsed wiitth rrosarriies and prrayerrs based on tthe conceptt tthatt
  he T o ans be a y n e spe sed w h osa es and p aye s based on he concep ha

tthey werre,, iindeed,, ffavorred by tthe Lorrd.. My ffattherr ttook excepttiion tto tthe nottiion,, and when
  hey we e ndeed avo ed by he Lo d My a he ook excep on o he no on and when

Trroy rralllliied tto wiin,, 16--14,, he cheerred jjustt tto spiitte tthe Cattholliic ffamiilly ((who prrobablly
T oy a ed o w n 16 14 he chee ed us o sp e he Ca ho c am y who p obab y

neverr llett hiim lliistten tto ttheiirr rradiio agaiin)).. A Trrojjan ffan was borrn..
neve e h m s en o he ad o aga n A T o an an was bo n

Fastt--fforrwarrd ttwo decades.. A sttarr baskettballl pllayerr ((Ken Fllowerr)) att tthe same schooll,,
Fas o wa d wo decades A s a baske ba p aye Ken F owe a he same schoo
Lowellll Hiigh off San Frranciisco -- wherre my ffattherr att tthe ttiime was a tteacherr and ttrrack
Lowe H gh o San F anc sco whe e my a he a he me was a eache and ack
coach -- wentt tto USC and sttarrrred on tthe harrdwood.. Hiis good ffrriiend,, Bob Trroppmann,,
coach wen o USC and s a ed on he ha dwood H s good end Bob T oppmann
who had pllayed att Lowellll a ffew yearrs earrlliierr,, was a young tteacherr//coach and collleague
who had p ayed a Lowe a ew yea s ea e was a young eache coach and co eague
off my ffattherr's.. Coach Trroppmann and Ken Fllowerr have been ffamiilly ffrriiends everr siince..
o my a he 's Coach T oppmann and Ken F owe have been am y ends eve s nce
Coach T was llatterr Pette Carrrrolll's coach att Redwood Hiigh..
Coach T was a e Pe e Ca o 's coach a Redwood H gh
         Fastt--fforrwarrd anottherr decade--pllus.. My dad was now an atttorrney and prroffessorr att
          Fas o wa d ano he decade p us My dad was now an a o ney and p o esso a

Ciitty Collllege off San Frranciisco.. A young jjuniiorr collllege superrsttarr named Orrentthall James
C y Co ege o San F anc sco A young un o co ege supe s a named O en ha James

Siimpson was doiing phenomenall tthiings ttherre,, and when he moved on tto tthe Uniiverrsiitty off
S mpson was do ng phenomena h ngs he e and when he moved on o he Un ve s y o

Souttherrn Calliifforrniia,, II sttarrtted ffolllowiing tthe Trrojjans wiitth my ffattherr.. Liike crrazy..
Sou he n Ca o n a s a ed o ow ng he T o ans w h my a he L ke c azy

          Anottherr ffavorriitte Trrojjan was tthe New Yorrk Metts'' Hallll off Fame piittcherr Tom
          Ano he avo e T o an was he New Yo k Me s Ha o Fame p che Tom

Seaverr.. He rreprresentted tthe ullttiimatte rrolle modell iin my miind:: superrsttarr,, New Yorrk iicon,,
Seave He ep esen ed he u ma e o e mode n my m nd supe s a New Yo k con

handsome,, iinttelllliigentt,, a wellll--educatted Calliifforrniian.. II lloved tthe ffactt tthatt he wentt tto USC
handsome n e gen a we educa ed Ca o n an oved he ac ha he wen o USC

allmostt everry offff--season ffrrom 1967 tto 1976 iin orrderr tto gett hiis degrree..
a mos eve y o season om 1967 o 1976 n o de o ge h s deg ee

II gott a ffullll dose off Trrojjan ffoottballl llong befforre II everr mattrriicullatted as a sttudentt.. When
   go a u dose o T o an oo ba ong be o e eve ma cu a ed as a s uden When
Antthony Daviis wentt balllliisttiic agaiinstt Nottrre Dame iin botth 1972 and 1974,, ourr neiighborrs
 An hony Dav s wen ba s c aga ns No e Dame n bo h 1972 and 1974 ou ne ghbo s
allmostt calllled tthe polliice,, my dad and II wentt so berrserrk.. IIn 1978 he and II werre iin tthe
 a mos ca ed he po ce my dad and wen so be se k n 1978 he and we e n he
sttands when Frrank Jorrdan's ffiielld goall beatt Nottrre Dame,, 27--25.. II was pllanniing eventtuallly
 s ands when F ank Jo dan's e d goa bea No e Dame 27 25 was p ann ng even ua y
tto go tto schooll ttherre,, whiich II prroudlly iinfforrmed tthe atttrracttiive young woman siitttiing nextt
  o go o schoo he e wh ch p oud y n o med he a ac ve young woman s ng nex
tto me att tthe Colliiseum.. When Jorrdan's kiick splliitt tthose uprriightts II hugged herr so harrd tthey
  o me a he Co seum When Jo dan's k ck sp hose up gh s hugged he so ha d hey
allmostt had tto marrrry us..
 a mos had o ma y us
           A yearr llatterr II was attttendiing a Thanksgiiviing weekend parrtty iin Marriin Countty when
            A yea a e was a end ng a Thanksg v ng weekend pa y n Ma n Coun y when

att miidniightt my pall Diino Loberrttiinii and II deciided tto drriive alll niightt and atttend tthe nextt
a m dn gh my pa D no Lobe n and dec ded o d ve a n gh and a end he nex

day''s USC--UCLA game.. Everry actt off serrendiipiitty and Trrojjan good fforrttune was wiitth us..
day s USC UCLA game Eve y ac o se end p y and T o an good o une was w h us

We arrrriived iin Los Angelles and ffound my ffrriiend Pette Cooperr's aparrttmentt wiitthoutt
We a ved n Los Ange es and ound my end Pe e Coope 's apa men w hou

diirrecttiions;; ffound my ffrriiend Brrad Colle by purre lluck;; werre iin tthe rriightt pllace att tthe rriightt
d ec ons ound my end B ad Co e by pu e uck we e n he gh p ace a he gh

ttiime when hiis brrottherr Darrrren jjustt happened tto prroviide us wiitth ttwo ffrree ttiicketts lliike
    me when h s b o he Da en us happened o p ov de us w h wo ee cke s ke

Manna ffrrom Heaven;; ttrrudged a huge conttaiinerr off "Tony tthe Tiigerrs" ((Vodka,, Ollde
Manna om Heaven udged a huge con a ne o "Tony he T ge s" Vodka O de

Englliish 800,, orrange jjuiice)) iintto tthe Colliiseum;; and by tthe ttiime USC sttomped tthe Brruiins,,
Eng sh 800 o ange u ce n o he Co seum and by he me USC s omped he B u ns

49--14 underr a 90--degrree llatte ffallll sun,, II was quiitte conviinced tthatt iiff God was nott a Trrojjan,,
49 14 unde a 90 deg ee a e a sun was qu e conv nced ha God was no a T o an

He att lleastt had an aparrttmentt on Westt Adams Boullevarrd.. Off courrse,, operrattiing on allcoholl
He a eas had an apa men on Wes Adams Bou eva d O cou se ope a ng on a coho

and slleepllessness fforr 24 hourrs caughtt up wiitth me,, butt II sttiilll llucked outt wiitth a sparre bed
and s eep essness o 24 hou s caugh up w h me bu s                             ucked ou w h a spa e bed
att Coop's aparrttmentt offff tthe Row,, wherre II crrashed whiille a wiilld allll--ffrratt parrtty rraged outtsiide
a Coop's apa men o he Row whe e c ashed wh e a w d a                                    a pa y aged ou s de

tthe wiindow.. II swearr tthatt tthe orriigiinall Stteppenwollff pllayed tthatt concerrtt.. II can vaguelly
  he w ndow swea ha he o g na S eppenwo p ayed ha conce                                        can vague y

rrememberr John Kay siingiing "Borrn tto Be Wiilld,," butt II managed tto slleep tthrrough mostt off
  emembe John Kay s ng ng "Bo n o Be W d " bu managed o s eep h ough mos o

iitt..

         Redwood High School, where Coach Troppmann was still coaching by the time I

got there, has a long tradition of Trojans. The Redwood/USC connection was started by

Mike Woodson in 1959. Mike was one of the famed USC Republicans who worked for

Richard Nixon, a group that included Donald Segretti, Dwight Chapin, Gordon Strachan

and Bart Porter.

         In my senior year at Redwood, we were the national champions of high school

baseball. Our coach, Al Endriss, the National Coach of the Year one season earlier, had

been Pete Carroll's baseball coach and an assistant on the football team that Pete played

on. Two prep All-American teammates of mine, outfielder Jim Connor and pitcher

Mickey Meister, played for Rod Dedeaux at Southern California. We made a trip to San

Diego and played Lincoln High School, whose third baseman was Marcus Allen. Our Joe

DiMaggio League summer team played the Long Beach Jets in the state tournament. A

former track star at USC coached the Jets, and the team featured both Tony and Chris

Gwynn.

         Jim Connor led USC in hitting as a sophomore and is now a very successful real

estate executive in Westlake Village. His son, Trevor, is a talented, aspiring sportscaster.

Mickey Meister was a piece of work. One of the best pitchers in the Pac-10 as a

sophomore, the first time I got a load of his act at USC was a happening Thursday night

at the 32nd Street Bar and Grill in the University Village. He and All-American shortstop
Dan Davidsmeir simply owned that place. Mick was 6-5, 220 pounds and looked like a

member of The Beach Boys. He "let" me trail him like a sycophant while he worked the

room in the manner of Frank Sinatra at The Sands, walking from table to table where a

coterie of blondies who, in my memory at least, all looked like Christy Brinkley, fawned

over him: "Hiii, Mickeee" . . . "Mickeee, why didn't you call me?" Meister finally just

turned to me, shrugged his shoulders and announced, "I dominate!" Davidsmeir: "Gotta

give it to you: you dominate." High-fives. Beyond that I cannot print.

        Other high school classmates of mine who attended USC included Darrell Elder
(the conference discus champion for the Trojans), Linda Sorgen (whose dad, a USC grad,
became head of Pac-10 referees), Peter Cooper (now a corporate executive in San
Francisco), Greg Farber (who started the famed "Women of USC" calendars of the
1980s), Jeffrey Cole (now a multi-millionaire real estate executive living in Corona Del
Mar, California) and his brother Darren Lee Cole (a leading off-Broadway New York
theatrical producer; Killer Joe starring Scott Glenn and Amanda Plummer). Jeff and
Darren came from a great USC family. Their father, Jerry (a stockbroker) and mother, Dr.
Joan Cole (an educator) were Trojans. Rob Monaco took over his family's video
production business in San Francisco.
        I was "recruited" to USC by Tony Santino, who had played baseball for Coach

Dedeaux (the best man at his wedding). His children, Cara and Tony (who worked for the

Golden State Warriors) are great Trojans who went to Redwood. The lovely Jasmine

Wittoff went to USC. Dan Andrade's dad, Leo, had gone to USC. Then there is Kevin

McCormack, my best friend in the world. Kevin went to his dad's alma mater, Notre

Dame, then transferred to USC. Nice.

        Later, Chad Kreuter starred on the baseball and football teams at Redwood. He is
now USC's head baseball coach, meaning that the football (Carroll) and baseball coaches
at the University of Southern California are both Redwood graduates. Jim Saia, who was
the Trojans' head basketball coach in 2005, went to Marin County rival Sir Francis
Drake. Drake's famed track coach, Bill Taylor, ran track for Jess Mortensen at USC.
Then there was Bill "Spaceman" Lee, who was a Terra Linda Trojan before he was a
USC Trojan and then a Boston Red Sock. Brent Moore was a football player from San
Marin High who played at USC when I was there. He went to the Green Bay Packers.
        Then there was Bill Bordley. Bill was from the Palos Verdes peninsula and had
been a baseball superstar at Bishop Montgomery High School in Torrance. In 1977 he

was 14-0 as a freshman at USC, and in 1978 he pitched the Trojans, considered at the

time to be the greatest college team in history, to the national championship. Roy Roth

was a Pac-8 umpire who also worked many of my high school games, and when the big

league umps went on strike he worked as a replacement. He was a St. Louis Cardinals'

"bird dog" scout credited in part with signing me to a professional contract. Roy told me

flat out that Bordley was the greatest pitcher he ever saw, at any level; "better than Sandy

Koufax!"

Bill signed with the San Francisco Giants but was injured. He lived in Marin at the time
and worked out under a strength coach at the local high school, where I met him during
his rehabilitation. I later knew Bill at USC, where he was the pitching coach under Rod
Dedeaux after injuries forced his early retirement. Bill became a Secret Service agent and
in 2000 I interviewed him at length about this transition. That article, "A Tale of Two
Pitchers," detailed how USC All-American pitcher Bruce Gardner failed to handle his
injury, and Bill Bordley did. I may write a book about it someday.
        Any description of Marin Trojans is not complete without mention of my good

pal Gary Hendricks, a renowned developer in the county. Gary started at USC but

transferred to UCLA, yet remains to this day a total, loyal, dedicated USC football fan.

Go figure! This is not that unusual. I do not mean to put down UCLA, but I know

several UCLAns who do not have nearly the same enthusiasm for their school that USC

folks have for ours.

         When II was a miinorr lleague piittcherr iin tthe Oaklland A's orrganiizattiion,, we pllayed a
         When was a m no eague p che n he Oak and A's o gan za on we p ayed a

Sprriing Trraiiniing exhiibiittiion game agaiinstt tthe Miillwaukee Brrewerrs att Phoeniix Muniiciipall
Sp ng T a n ng exh b on game aga ns he M waukee B ewe s a Phoen x Mun c pa

Sttadiium.. Somebody hiitt a surreffiirre home rrun overr tthe rriightt ffiielld ffence.. Bob Skube,, a
S ad um Somebody h a su e e home un ove he gh e d ence Bob Skube a

fforrmerr Trrojjan sttarr,, made whatt may tto tthiis day be tthe grreattestt cattch II have everr seen,, tto
  o me T o an s a made wha may o h s day be he g ea es ca ch have eve seen o

rrob us off a home rrun..
  ob us o a home un

         When II arrrriived on campus,, II had tto piinch mysellff tto make surre II was nott
         When a ved on campus had o p nch myse o make su e was no
drreamiing.. II was,, iin ffactt,, lliiviing my drream.. Alll my senses werre heiighttened,, ttoo.. II paiid
d eam ng was n ac v ng my d eam A my senses we e he gh ened oo pa d

attttenttiion tto everrytthiing;; everrybody II mett,, allll my cllassmattes,, ffamous names,, grreatt atthllettes..
a en on o eve y h ng eve ybody me a my c assma es amous names g ea a h e es

The verry ffiirrstt perrson II mett when II moved iintto tthe Regall Trrojjan Arrms on Westt Adams
The ve y s pe son me when moved n o he Rega T o an A ms on Wes Adams

Boullevarrd was Joe Kondash ((ttoday prresiidentt off tthe Scrriipttwrriitterr's Nettworrk)),, tthe
Bou eva d was Joe Kondash oday p es den o he Sc p w e 's Ne wo k he

rroommatte off Miichaell Harrperr.. Harrperr was tthe rrunniing back who mostt lliikelly ffumblled ((butt
  oomma e o M chae Ha pe Ha pe was he unn ng back who mos ke y umb ed bu

iitt was nott callled)) whiille scorriing tthe wiinniing ttouchdown agaiinstt Nottrre Dame iin 1982,,
     was no ca ed wh e sco ng he w nn ng ouchdown aga ns No e Dame n 1982

20--17.. We arre sttiillll ffrriiends.. He iis a successffull busiinessman iin Sacrramentto,, Calliifforrniia.. Joe
20 17 We a e s                   ends He s a success u bus nessman n Sac amen o Ca o n a Joe

iinttrroduced me tto tthe second perrson II mett,, Terrrry Marrks.. My ffavorriitte Terrrry Marrks sttorry
  n oduced me o he second pe son me Te y Ma ks My avo e Te y Ma ks s o y

concerrns hiis ffiirrstt day att tthe schooll.. An IIrriish Cattholliic llad ffrrom a llarrge ffamiilly off Nottrre
conce ns h s s day a he schoo An sh Ca ho c ad om a a ge am y o No e

Dame ffans iin Rochestterr,, New Yorrk,, Terrrry ventturred westt siightt unseen tto pllay baseballl fforr
Dame ans n Roches e New Yo k Te y ven u ed wes s gh unseen o p ay baseba o

Rod Dedeaux.. Hiis onlly viisuall off tthe campus had been a decepttiive viideo tthatt made iitt llook
Rod Dedeaux H s on y v sua o he campus had been a decep ve v deo ha made ook

lliike Verrmontt Avenue was tthe Paciiffiic Ocean sttrrand,, compllette wiitth song giirrlls.. Hiis $40
    ke Ve mon Avenue was he Pac c Ocean s and comp e e w h song g s H s $40

cab rriide ffrrom tthe aiirrporrtt tto tthe campus had hiim conviinced he had been ttaken "fforr a rriide"
cab de om he a po o he campus had h m conv nced he had been aken " o a de"

iintto bad neiighborrhoods,, unttiill he saw tthe Colliiseum..
  n o bad ne ghbo hoods un he saw he Co seum

         Wiitth aboutt $30 tto llastt a montth he needed grrocerriies so he wentt tto tthe 32nd Sttrreett
         W h abou $30 o as a mon h he needed g oce es so he wen o he 32nd S ee

Marrkett,, butt exiitted tthe wrrong doorr.. Haviing llostt hiis bearriings he ventturred severrall bllocks
Ma ke bu ex ed he w ong doo Hav ng os h s bea ngs he ven u ed seve a b ocks

befforre he rrealliized he was llostt on tthe mean sttrreetts off soutth--centtrrall L..A.. Gangbangerrs,,
be o e he ea zed he was os on he mean s ee s o sou h cen a L A Gangbange s

prredattorrs and homelless bums eyed hiim.. The searriing llatte summerr heatt,, tthe smog,, bus
p eda o s and home ess bums eyed h m The sea ng a e summe hea he smog bus

ffumes,, Copenhagen chew,, llack off ffood and jjett llag pllayed ttrriicks on hiis miind.. Hiis viisiion
  umes Copenhagen chew ack o ood and e ag p ayed cks on h s m nd H s v s on

off song giirrlls,, biikiiniis,, Trravellerr and Frred Lynn bangiing home rruns seemed a crruell ttrriick..
o song g s b k n s T ave e and F ed Lynn bang ng home uns seemed a c ue ck

Terrrry began tto iimagiine tthatt he had diied and gone tto helll,, damned by God because he had
Te y began o mag ne ha he had d ed and gone o he damned by God because he had

chosen tthe gllamourr off USC overr tthe piious Chrriisttiianiitty off hiis own rrelliigiion,, Nottrre Dame..
chosen he g amou o USC ove he p ous Ch s an y o h s own e g on No e Dame

Riightt tthen and ttherre he drropped hiis bags and saiid tthe Lorrd's Prrayerr,, tthen began wallkiing,,
R gh hen and he e he d opped h s bags and sa d he Lo d's P aye hen began wa k ng
ttrrusttiing tthatt God woulld see hiim tthrrough.. 10 miinuttes llatterr he was saffe att hiis aparrttmentt..
    us ng ha God wou d see h m h ough 10 m nu es a e he was sa e a h s apa men

       Terry pitched for Coach Dedeaux and became my roommate. We put our empty
Copenhagen cans on the windowsill, and it eventually blotted out the Sun. Terry was the
best man at my wedding, the Godfather of my daughter, Elizabeth, and is today president
of Coca-Cola/North America. He wrote the foreword of my book Trojans Essential:
Everything You Need to Be a Real Fan! (2008). Not bad so far!
       Terrrry iinttrroduced me tto anottherr off my grreattestt lliiffellong ffrriiends,, Antthony "Brruno"
       Te y n oduced me o ano he o my g ea es e ong ends An hony "B uno"

Carravallho,, a baseballll piittcherr as welll.. Brruno had pllayed wiitth Jack Dell Riio and Randy
Ca ava ho a baseba p che as we B uno had p ayed w h Jack De R o and Randy

Johnson back home iin Haywarrd,, Calliifforrniia.. Latterr he owned tthe ffamed 502 Cllub
Johnson back home n Haywa d Ca o n a La e he owned he amed 502 C ub

((Calliifforrniia Piizza & Pastt Company)) att tthe corrnerr off Jefffferrson and McLiinttock,, nextt tto tthe
  Ca o n a P zza & Pas Company a he co ne o Je e son and McL n ock nex o he

Bank off Amerriica iin tthe Uniiverrsiitty Viilllage.. The "Fiive--oh" cllosed iin 1993.. A Yoshiinoya
Bank o Ame ca n he Un ve s y V age The "F ve oh" c osed n 1993 A Yosh noya

Beeff Bowll unfforrttunattelly occupiies tthe siitte ttoday..
Bee Bow un o una e y occup es he s e oday

         Mostt off my bestt palls werre Trrojjan baseballl pllayerrs.. Thiis iinclluded piittcherr Phiill
         Mos o my bes pa s we e T o an baseba p aye s Th s nc uded p che Ph

Smiitth ((ttoday hiighlly--pllaced iin tthe Los Angelles Polliice Deparrttmentt)).. Hiis ollderr brrottherr,,
Sm h oday h gh y p aced n he Los Ange es Po ce Depa men H s o de b o he

Dave ttook Jiim Connorr's jjob ffrrom hiim as tthe ffiirrstt baseman.. Then ttherre was Randy
Dave ook J m Conno 's ob om h m as he s baseman Then he e was Randy

Roberrttson,, who grrew up wiitth Marrk McGwiirre iin Cllarremontt,, Calliifforrniia.. Randy llatterr
Robe son who g ew up w h Ma k McGw e n C a emon Ca o n a Randy a e

piittched iin tthe Padrres'' orrganiizattiion.. Soutthpaw ((iitt ffiigurres)) piittcherr Bob Gunnarrsson woulld
p ched n he Pad es o gan za on Sou hpaw                              gu es p che Bob Gunna sson wou d

do an actt callled "tthe spiiderr" att tthe "Fiive--oh.." Thiis enttaiilled wallkiing on tthe pallms off hiis
do an ac ca ed " he sp de " a he "F ve oh " Th s en a ed wa k ng on he pa ms o h s

hands.. He pllayed miinorr lleague balll a ffew yearrs.. Siid Akiins was an Ollympiian iin tthe 1984
hands He p ayed m no eague ba a ew yea s S d Ak ns was an O ymp an n he 1984

L..A.. Games ((coached by Rod Dedeaux)).. He was a grreatt ttallentt..
L A Games coached by Rod Dedeaux He was a g ea a en

         Steve Heslop was a hard-throwing southpaw from the desert. He seemed to be a

fish out of water; quiet and unassuming, yet he roomed with the ultimate "party animal,"

Mickey Meister. Mick, Hes and Kevin McCormack had a pad over at Ellendale, which

was a dangerous neighborhood. Hes would just stay in while Mick and Mac would drag

Randy Robertson, Alby Silvera, Tony Walczuk, a young Damon Oppenheimer, and

Randy Gabrielson (whose dad, Len, was a Trojan great and big leaguer) to the "Nine-oh,"
the "Three-two" and the "Five-oh." Weekends meant "road trips" to the Golden Bear in

Huntington Beach; the hot spots of Manhattan; or Chippendales in Westwood, where we

would show up after the male strippers were done and Mick said the girls were "primed."

Oh Lord have mercy.

          Mark Schultz was a walk-on pitcher for the Spartans, the junior varsity team, but

his nose was always in a book. He is a medical doctor now. Pitcher Spiro Psaltis's father

had been a star basketball player on the 1952 Trojan Final Four team. I did not know

Spiro very well (he finished before I got there), but he was a good friend with Jim Connor

and I did drink beers with him one night at the 901 Club.

Thiirrd baseman Crraiig Sttevenson was Marrk McGwiirre's rroommatte aboutt ffiive doorrs down
 Th d baseman C a g S evenson was Ma k McGw e's oomma e abou ve doo s down
ffrrom miine att tthe Regall Trrojjan Arrms.. He pllayed iin tthe Houstton orrganiizattiion and iis now
    om m ne a he Rega T o an A ms He p ayed n he Hous on o gan za on and s now
an aiirr ttrraffffiic conttrrolllerr.. Hiis dad had pllayed fforr Dedeaux befforre a prro carreerr,, tthen
 an a a c con o e H s dad had p ayed o Dedeaux be o e a p o ca ee hen
becomiing a ffiightterr piillott.. Outtffiiellderr Marrk Sttevens was anottherr one off tthose guys ffrrom
 becom ng a gh e p o Ou e de Ma k S evens was ano he one o hose guys om
tthe Roberrttson--McGwiirre--Cllarremontt connecttiion.. He iis an attttorrney iin Newporrtt Beach now..
   he Robe son McGw e C a emon connec on He s an a o ney n Newpo Beach now
            McGwiirre was tthe neattestt,, mostt--orrganiized,, diisciiplliined collllege sttudentt II have everr
             McGw e was he nea es mos o gan zed d sc p ned co ege s uden have eve

known.. Hiis giirrllffrriiend,, Katthy,, was a Trrojjan battgiirrll.. He was The Sporttiing News Colllege
known H s g               end Ka hy was a T o an ba g He was The Spor ng News Co ege

Pllayerr off tthe Yearr and wentt on tto grreatt ffame iin Oaklland and Stt.. Louiis.. Randy Johnson
P aye o he Yea and wen on o g ea ame n Oak and and S Lou s Randy Johnson

was as wiilld as a Marrch harre.. II woulld llove tto say II prrediictted hiis Halll off Fame carreerr,, butt II
was as w d as a Ma ch ha e wou d ove o say p ed c ed h s Ha o Fame ca ee bu

diid nott.. Yearrs llatterr when II was a collumniistt wiitth tthe San Franciisco Examiiner,, "The Biig
d d no Yea s a e when was a co umn s w h he San Franc sco Exam ner "The B g

Uniitt" grrantted me a llong,, excllusiive iintterrviiew iin Phoeniix tthatt became a tthrree--page sprread
Un " g an ed me a ong exc us ve n e v ew n Phoen x ha became a h ee page sp ead

iin tthe newspaperr.. Brriian Cohen was no grreatt shakes iin baseballll,, butt he became a biig--ttiime
  n he newspape B an Cohen was no g ea shakes n baseba bu he became a b g me

sporrtts agentt worrkiing wiitth Denniis Giillberrtt ((Barrrry Bonds's rreprresenttattiive)) wiitth tthe Beverrlly
spo s agen wo k ng w h Denn s G be Ba y Bonds's ep esen a ve w h he Beve y

Hiilllls Sporrtts Counciill.. Jeffff Brrown,, tthe capttaiin off tthe ffoottballl tteam,, was a cattcherr on tthe
H s Spo s Counc Je B own he cap a n o he oo ba eam was a ca che on he

baseballll tteam and a ffrriiend.. He became tthe ffoottballll coach att Porrtterrviillle ((Calliifforrniia)) Hiigh
baseba eam and a end He became he oo ba coach a Po e v e Ca o n a H gh

Schooll.. The ottherr cattcherr,, Jack Dell Riio,, coulld easiilly have been a Majjorr Leaguerr,, butt tthe
Schoo The o he ca che Jack De R o cou d eas y have been a Ma o League bu he

Alll--Amerriican lliinebackerr chose ffoottballl,, eventtuallly lleadiing hiim tto tthe Miinnesotta Viikiings
A Ame can nebacke chose oo ba even ua y ead ng h m o he M nneso a V k ngs
and tthe Jacksonviillle Jaguarrs,, wherre he iis ttheiirr head coach now..
and he Jacksonv e Jagua s whe e he s he head coach now

Basketball player Purvis Miller was a good pal who wanted me to be his agent. I hung out
with a lot of football players, too. We were all regulars at the "Five-oh." Quarterback Tim
Green was a fun-loving guy. Later we were neighbors in Redondo Beach, California and
he loved running into me at P.J. Brett's, because I told everybody who would listen that
he was the 1985 Rose Bowl Player of the Game. Today he is architect in Los Angeles.
Linebacker Rex Moore was so crazy I was half-afraid to say anything to him.
Quarterback Scott Tinsley and defensive back Tim Shannon (son of St. Louis Cardinals'
ex-player and current broadcaster Mike Shannon) roomed at the Moon Apartments. Let's
just say they were popular with the ladies. Tim became an attorney. I once saw another
quarterback, Sean Salisbury, a blue-chipper out of San Diego, arrive at a party dressed in
a golf sweater like he was 45 years old. I was told, "He's Mormon," as if that explained it.
He played for the Vikings and became an ESPN pro football analyst.
Don Mosebar starred for the 1983 world champion Los Angeles Raiders. Bruce
Matthews became a Hall of Famer with the Houston Oilers. Tony Slaton, Duane Bickett
and Jeff Bregel were all stars in the program when I was there. I never really knew
place-kicker Steve Jordan, but I later became friends with his brother Frank, star of the
1978 27-25 win over Notre Dame. Frank is a historian who gives World War I and World
War II battlefield tours in France every summer. He once proposed an idea for a World
War I screenplay I wrote called The Lost Battalion. The story is a roundabout one, but
that movie was eventually made, starring Rick Schroder.
Tom Hille was a good friend. He was a graduate assistant who worked for strength coach
Jerry "attababy" Attaway. He went to work for the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. I
had a literature class with a lineman named Mike Roth. Mike was a nice guy and very
Christian. That class also changed my life. We read Rabbit Redux by John Updike; Lolita
by Vladimir Nabokov; the works of Saul Bellow and Isaac Bashevis Singer; and other
classics. I was blown away and it launched what eventually became a writing career.
Most college kids return their used books at semester's end for a partial refund. I decided
to hold onto my books. They now had value, and they are permanent fixtures in my
library to this day, dog-eared from many a reading with my college phone number still
written inside.
I took a fabulous communications class, and one of my assignments was to interview
somebody who had the job I someday wanted. I chose Steve Brener, the media relations
director of the Los Angeles Dodgers. It was a thrill to drive out to Dodger Stadium and
spend an hour with him. In another class on debate and speech rhetoric, we studied John
Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech in 1963; the 1980 Ronald Reagan-Jimmy Carter
debate; and I did a presentation on the social impact of the 1960s. Legendary assistant
football coach Marv Goux's daughter, Linda, was in that class. Dr. Bernard Pipken's
oceanography course included a great cruise beyond Los Angeles harbor along the Palos
Verdes coastline.
        I was at that time becoming spiritually awakened, and part of this maturation

came when I took a wonderful class on religion. I learned about diverse faiths as well as a

deeper understanding of my own Christianity. Professor Andrew Casper taught a class on
film appreciation that was a barnburner. Even though I majored in communications, not

film, I took enough classes in the School of Cinema-Television to plant the seeds of what

eventually would be authorship of 15 screenplays.

My counsellorr iin tthe communiicattiions schooll was tthe esttiimablle Drr.. Ken Serreno,, who iis
 My counse o n he commun ca ons schoo was he es mab e D Ken Se eno who s
sttiillll att USC.. He ttaughtt a grreatt courrse on communiicattiions ttheorry.. II wiilll neverr fforrgett tthe
 s a USC He augh a g ea cou se on commun ca ons heo y w neve o ge he
day he mapped outt tthe cllasses II needed tto ttake iin orrderr tto atttaiin my Bachellorr off Arrtts
 day he mapped ou he c asses needed o ake n o de o a a n my Bache o o A s
degrree.. Forr tthe verry ffiirrstt ttiime II coulld see tthe "lliightt att tthe end off tthe ttunnell" and rrealliized
 deg ee Fo he ve y s me cou d see he " gh a he end o he unne " and ea zed
II woulld grraduatte ffrrom colllege..
    wou d g adua e om co ege
One had tto quash colld beerrs att tthe "Fiive--oh" iin orrderr tto combatt academiic sttrress and
 One had o quash co d bee s a he "F ve oh" n o de o comba academ c s ess and
miid--90s heatt,, and many a fforrmerr Trrojjan woulld appearr iin ttherre.. IItt was lliike goiing tto a barr
 m d 90s hea and many a o me T o an wou d appea n he e was ke go ng o a ba
att tthe Halll off Fame.. One niightt ex--ffoottballl grreatt Riich Diimllerr,, rrecenttlly off tthe Grreen Bay
 a he Ha o Fame One n gh ex oo ba g ea R ch D m e ecen y o he G een Bay
Packerrs,, came iin wiitth hiis giirrllffrriiend,, who was bllonde and a 12 on a scalle off one tto 10..
 Packe s came n w h h s g                     end who was b onde and a 12 on a sca e o one o 10
Natturralllly tthe Trravs had a couplle and made some moves,, engenderriing much aniimosiitty
 Na u a y he T avs had a coup e and made some moves engende ng much an mos y
ffrrom Diimllerr,, who was aboutt 7--5,, 462 pounds compllette wiitth bearrd and scowll.. II ttallked
     om D m e who was abou 7 5 462 pounds comp e e w h bea d and scow                                        a ked
hiim down wiitth Trrojjan ffoottballl knowlledge..
 h m down w h T o an oo ba know edge
On anottherr occasiion,, Antthony Daviis orrderred a piittcherr off beerr ffrrom tthe barrttenderr,, an
 On ano he occas on An hony Dav s o de ed a p che o bee om he ba ende an
iirrasciiblle Cubs ffan ffrrom Chiicago named Berrniie.. Antthony jjustt ttook tthe brrew and deparrtted..
    asc b e Cubs an om Ch cago named Be n e An hony us ook he b ew and depa ed
"Thatt'llll be ttwo bucks,," demanded Berrniie..
 "Tha ' be wo bucks " demanded Be n e
"II'm A..D..,," saiid A..D..,, as iiff tthatt meantt a ffrree llunch,, orr att lleastt ffrree beerr..
 " 'm A D " sa d A D as ha mean a ee unch o a eas ee bee
"II don'tt carre iiff yourr Jesus Chrriistt Hiimsellff,," saiid Berrniie,, "tthatt'lll be ttwo bucks.."
 " don' ca e you Jesus Ch s H mse " sa d Be n e " ha ' be wo bucks "
              Cllarrence Cullbrreatth was a lliitttlle--known USC ffoottballl pllayerr iin tthe earrlly 1970s,,
               C a ence Cu b ea h was a              e known USC oo ba p aye n he ea y 1970s

one off tthe grreattestt perriiods off gllorry iin schooll hiisttorry.. C..C.. was a sociiall worrkerr iin L..A..
one o he g ea es pe ods o g o y n schoo h s o y C C was a soc a wo ke n L A

and woulld come tto tthe 502 Cllub afftterr worrk,, wherre he had morre sttorriies tthan Carrtterr has
and wou d come o he 502 C ub a e wo k whe e he had mo e s o es han Ca e has

piillls.. He saiid A..D.. parrked a shiiny Cadiilllac converrttiiblle,, apparrenttlly a boostterr's giifftt,, iin
p s He sa d A D pa ked a sh ny Cad ac conve b e appa en y a boos e 's g                                         n

ffrrontt off tthe stteps att Herriittage Halll,, whiich iis nott a parrkiing llott.. Apparrenttlly nobody darred
    on o he s eps a He age Ha wh ch s no a pa k ng o Appa en y nobody da ed

ttow orr ttiickett.. IItt was C..C.. who ffiirrstt ttolld me how Paull "Bearr" Brryantt supposedlly saiid Sam
  ow o cke                was C C who s o d me how Pau "Bea " B yan supposed y sa d Sam

"Bam" Cunniingham was "whatt a ffoottballl pllayerr llooks lliike" afftterr USC beatt Allabama,,
"Bam" Cunn ngham was "wha a oo ba p aye ooks ke" a e USC bea A abama

42--21 iin 1970.. Thatt sttorry tturrned me iintto a Trrojjan sporrtts hiisttorriian and eventtuallly became
42 21 n 1970 Tha s o y u ned me n o a T o an spo s h s o an and even ua y became

One Niightt,, Two Teams:: Allabama vs.. USC and tthe Game Thatt Changed a Nattiion,, whiich
One N gh Two Teams A abama vs USC and he Game Tha Changed a Na on wh ch

iis now iin prroducttiion tto become a majjorr mottiion piictturre.. One off C..C..'s palls was an
  s now n p oduc on o become a ma o mo on p c u e One o C C 's pa s was an

ex--ffoottballl pllayerr ffrrom Muiirr Hiigh Schooll iin Pasadena,, allso named Clliiffff.. Oddlly enough,,
ex oo ba p aye om Mu H gh Schoo n Pasadena a so named C                                     Odd y enough

iitt whatt was iin tthatt enviirronmentt wherre Clliiffff quotted scrriiptturre.. Yearrs llatterr,, II parrttiialllly crrediitt
     wha was n ha env onmen whe e C quo ed sc p u e Yea s a e pa a y c ed
Clliiffff wiitth iinspiirriing me tto rread The Holly Biiblle att lleastt ffiive ttiimes..
C w h nsp ng me o ead The Ho y B b e a eas ve mes

          Dave Lyttle was a good "Five-oh" pal. Dave, who lived in Palos Verdes Estates,

was a probation officer with Los Angeles County whose wife was a Superior Court

Judge. He was a leading Trojan booster and "coach" of the rugby team, who seemingly

made visits to the 502 Club a mandatory conclusion of each practice and game.

          The Los Angelles Exprress off tthe Uniitted Sttattes Foottballll League pllayed att tthe
          The Los Ange es Exp ess o he Un ed S a es Foo ba League p ayed a he

nearrby Colliiseum iin tthose days.. II rrecalll one afftterrnoon seeiing Lee Majjorrs,, who had pllayed
nea by Co seum n hose days eca one a e noon see ng Lee Ma o s who had p ayed

The Siix Miillliion Dollllar Man on ttelleviisiion -- II tthiink he was an Exprress co--ownerr orr
The S x M on Do ar Man on e ev s on                        h nk he was an Exp ess co owne o

sharrehollderr -- have a ffew ttoo many cockttaiills and allmostt gett iintto a ffiightt..
sha eho de have a ew oo many cock a s and a mos ge n o a gh

          We often used the pay phone at the 502 Club to call hotels where visiting big

league teams stayed in Los Angeles, inviting the likes of Tom Seaver or Carl

Yastrzemski for "beer and pizza on us." We actually reached these guys but the invites

were politely turned down.

           I enjoyed the friendship of female athletes at USC, as well. Two good friends

were excellent players on the unbeaten, national championship women's tennis team

(1983), Kathleen Lillie and Anna-Lucia Fernandez. Cheryl Miller was a basketball

wunderkind when I was in school. I also had a very brief internship in the sports

information office (a job the actor Will Ferrell later also had). Jim Perry, a terrific fellow,

was the SID. Nancy Mazmanian, now the PR director for the Los Angeles Angels, was in

charge of baseball media. Tim Tessalone, who succeeded Perry and is still the SID,

worked in that office. So did my good friend Chris Wildermuth, a great guy. Once Chris

cut off Vin Scully on Sunset Boulevard when we were driving to Dodger Stadium.

          "Oh my God I just cut off Vin Scully," exclaimed Chris.
Terrrry Marrks and II tturrned and waved apollogettiicallly tto Viinniie,, who waved back,,
 Te y Ma ks and u ned and waved apo oge ca y o V nn e who waved back
absollviing us off ourr siins lliike a ffrriiendlly prriiestt.. Scullly had a uniique effffectt on me tto tthiis
 abso v ng us o ou s ns ke a end y p es Scu y had a un que e ec on me o h s
day.. IIff II am iin my carr and even tthiinkiing off doiing anytthiing tthatt miightt be,, say,, nott morrallly
 day           am n my ca and even h nk ng o do ng any h ng ha m gh be say no mo a y
uprriightt,, jjustt tthe sound off hiis rradiio voiice sayiing,, "Helllo everrybody,, pulll up a chaiirr" can
 up gh us he sound o h s ad o vo ce say ng "He o eve ybody pu up a cha " can
make me tthiink ttwiice aboutt iitt..
 make me h nk w ce abou
Anottherr cllose ffrriiend was Bob Karrll.. Bob was a cllassiic iindiiviiduall who allways diid tthe
 Ano he c ose end was Bob Ka Bob was a c ass c nd v dua who a ways d d he
drriiviing when we ventturred fforr a Satturrday niightt rrun tto Barrney''s Beanerry,, tthe Raiinbow orr
 d v ng when we ven u ed o a Sa u day n gh un o Ba ney s Beane y he Ra nbow o
Slloan's.. No mattterr how much ttrraffffiic,, he allways managed tto ffiind a space rriightt iin ffrrontt..
 S oan's No ma e how much a c he a ways managed o nd a space gh n on
We wentt tto counttlless Dodgerrs and Angells games,, as welll.. Bob's brrottherr,, Jon,, has been a
 We wen o coun ess Dodge s and Ange s games as we Bob's b o he Jon has been a
nattiionall rreporrtterr fforr diifffferrentt nettworrks..
 na ona epo e o d e en ne wo ks
Tony Piittarro was an iinttelllecttuall ffrrom Las Vegas viia Bostton.. Hiis ffrriiend,, Joell Farrbstteiin,,
 Tony P a o was an n e ec ua om Las Vegas v a Bos on H s end Joe Fa bs e n
arrrranged fforr us tto make a ffew exttrra bucks worrkiing as "prroducttiion assiisttantts" fforr ABC..
 a anged o us o make a ew ex a bucks wo k ng as "p oduc on ass s an s" o ABC
Once we werre "rrunnerrs" and "spotttterrs" fforr an iirronman ttrriiatthllon compettiittiion.. Frrank
 Once we we e " unne s" and "spo e s" o an onman a h on compe on F ank
Giifffforrd,, tthe eventt's TV announcerr and a USC iicon,, ffound outt we werre alll Trrojjans.. We
 G o d he even 's TV announce and a USC con ound ou we we e a T o ans We
ffound ourrsellves siitttiing on llawn chaiirrs att Santta Moniica beach,, drriinkiing beerr wiitth tthe
  ound ou se ves s ng on awn cha s a San a Mon ca beach d nk ng bee w h he
Giifffferr.. A ffrrazzlled crrewmemberr came rrunniing down yelllliing tthatt she needed a "rrunnerr,,"
 G e A azz ed c ewmembe came unn ng down ye ng ha she needed a " unne "
somebody who rrellays iinfforrmattiion on tthe rrace,, iimmediiattelly.. Terrrry,, Piitt and II jjustt satt ttherre
 somebody who e ays n o ma on on he ace mmed a e y Te y P and us sa he e
drriinkiing beerr wiitth Giifffforrd.. The crrewmemberr demanded tto know why we werre nott doiing
 d nk ng bee w h G o d The c ewmembe demanded o know why we we e no do ng
ourr jjob..
 ou ob
"We'rre spotttterrs,, nott rrunnerrs,," expllaiined Terrrry..
 "We' e spo e s no unne s " exp a ned Te y
Oh..
 Oh
II knew peoplle ffrrom allll ffourr corrnerrs off tthe worrlld att USC,, butt tthatt coulld gett diicey.. II
   knew peop e om a ou co ne s o he wo d a USC bu ha cou d ge d cey
beffrriiended a ffelllow who cllaiimed tto be a prriince off Sudan's rroyall ffamiilly ((?)),, butt he gott
 be ended a e ow who c a med o be a p nce o Sudan's oya am y ? bu he go
iintto iitt hott and heavy one niightt wiitth a guy ffrrom a rriivall cllan.. IIsrraelliis and Pallesttiiniians
  n o ho and heavy one n gh w h a guy om a va c an s ae s and Pa es n ans
ffound tthemsellves tto be ffelllow Trrojjans att USC..
  ound hemse ves o be e ow T o ans a USC
             Offffsprriing off tthe rriich and ffamous,, tthe kiind--off ffamous,, orr tthe eventtualllly ffamous,,
             O sp ng o he ch and amous he k nd o amous o he even ua y amous

have allways been a sttaplle att USC.. Chiicago Cubs superrsttarr Errniie Banks had a son ttherre..
have a ways been a s ap e a USC Ch cago Cubs supe s a E n e Banks had a son he e

The acttrress Allliie Sheedy had rrecenttlly been att tthe schooll.. Therre was allso a rrumorr tthatt
The ac ess A e Sheedy had ecen y been a he schoo The e was a so a umo ha

Tom Crruiise was enrrolllliing when Riisky Busiiness hiitt iitt biig,, causiing hiim tto change hiis pllans
Tom C u se was en o ng when R sky Bus ness h                    b g caus ng h m o change h s p ans

and purrsue scrreen sttarrdom.. Somebody ttolld me hiis Top Gun co--sttarr Kellly McGiillliis was a
and pu sue sc een s a dom Somebody o d me h s Top Gun co s a Ke y McG s was a

Trrojjan,, butt II neverr coulld conffiirrm tthatt.. One off tthe hottttiies ffrrom Three''s Company was a
T o an bu neve cou d con m ha One o he ho es om Three s Company was a

Trrojjan,, as was malle sttarr John Riittterr.. Then ttherre werre tthe giirrlls off Trroy.. Oh,, my,, tthatt tthey
T o an as was ma e s a John R e Then he e we e he g s o T oy Oh my ha hey

werre.. Jeanniie Buss,, tthe daughtterr off Lakerrs ownerr Jerrrry Buss,, was ffiiniishiing up when II
we e Jeann e Buss he daugh e o Lake s owne Je y Buss was n sh ng up when

arrrriived.. So was acttorr Jiim Garrnerr's daughtterr.. Jack Niichollson's daughtterr,, Jenny,, was a
a ved So was ac o J m Ga ne 's daugh e Jack N cho son's daugh e Jenny was a

sttudentt..
s uden

The beautiful Denise Moreno was a girl who caught my eye. She is now an advertising
executive in Chicago. Football coach Ted Tollner had a daughter, Tammy, at USC. A
"wild child" from Rolling Hills Estates, Rebecca Reeves looked like the actress Lynda
Carter, who played Wonderwoman. Rebecca could have been a supermodel if she had
wanted to. Joyce Lara and Ruth Juechter were friends. I met my ex-wife at USC, too.
        Then there was Cecile Poppen and Tamara Rubinoff, two of the best-looking girls

on campus. What a pair they were! Trouble, I called 'em, but I never got anywhere with

either of them. One day I was at a film school party. Terry was getting a few bucks to

work the door. Cecile was there, and she told me she would pay me whatever Terry was

making if I would take his place, so she could spend time with him. I agreed but did not

take her money. I take credit for introducing them, however.

A couplle off yearrs llatterr,, tthey werre marrrriied and tthey now lliive iin Attllantta,, wherre Terrrry was
 A coup e o yea s a e hey we e ma ed and hey now ve n A an a whe e Te y was
tthe prresiidentt off Coca--Colla//Norrtth Amerriica.. They have tthrree kiids.. II tthiink Tamarra worrks
  he p es den o Coca Co a No h Ame ca They have h ee k ds h nk Tama a wo ks
fforr tthe Securriittiies and Exchange Commiissiion..
  o he Secu es and Exchange Comm ss on
           II allways saiid II was att USC att tthe end off whatt was sttiilll a gollden age.. John
              a ways sa d was a USC a he end o wha was s a go den age John

Robiinson and Marrv Goux werre sttiilll ttherre.. Marrcus Alllen had jjustt won tthe Heiisman
Rob nson and Ma v Goux we e s             he e Ma cus A en had us won he He sman

Trrophy.. The grreatt tthiing aboutt USC iis tthatt you conttiinue tto be a memberr off tthe Trrojjan
T ophy The g ea h ng abou USC s ha you con nue o be a membe o he T o an

ffamiilly llong afftterr grraduattiion.. Rod Dedeaux,, who callled everrybody Tiigerr,, was sttiilll att
  am y ong a e g adua on Rod Dedeaux who ca ed eve ybody T ge was s a

USC.. A couplle off yearrs afftterr II gott outt,, II was a volluntteerr baseballll coach wiitth tthe
USC A coup e o yea s a e go ou was a vo un ee baseba coach w h he

Sparrttans,, tthe jjuniiorr varrsiitty tteam.. Phiill Smiitth and Terrrry Marrks werre allso coaches.. Don
Spa ans he un o va s y eam Ph Sm h and Te y Ma ks we e a so coaches Don

Bufforrd,, a fforrmerr USC baseballl and ffoottballl herro who once hiitt a homerr offff ffelllow USC
Bu o d a o me USC baseba and oo ba he o who once h a home o e ow USC

man Tom Seaverr iin tthe 1969 Worrlld serriies,, sharred tthe llockerr rroom wiitth us.. Yearrs llatterr,, II
man Tom Seave n he 1969 Wo d se es sha ed he ocke oom w h us Yea s a e

gott tto know Rod betttterr and wantted verry much tto wrriitte a book aboutt hiim,, whiich Biilll
go o know Rod be e and wan ed ve y much o w e a book abou h m wh ch B

"Spaceman" Lee saiid shoulld be ttiittlled The Houdiinii off Bovard.. II ffound a publliisherr and
"Spaceman" Lee sa d shou d be ed The Houd n o Bovard ound a pub she and

sttarrtted rresearrchiing,, butt iin miid--sttrream tthe publliisherr tthrrew me a currve:: make iitt jjustt a
s a ed esea ch ng bu n m d s eam he pub she h ew me a cu ve make us a

chaptterr on Rod,, and separratte chaptterrs on Greatt Colllege Baseballl Coaches lliike Skiip
chap e on Rod and sepa a e chap e s on Grea Co ege Baseba Coaches ke Sk p

Berrttman off Louiisiiana Sttatte,, Clliiffff Gusttaffson off Texas,, Ron Frraserr off Miiamii,, and tthe lliike..
Be man o Lou s ana S a e C Gus a son o Texas Ron F ase o M am and he ke

Thatt was a substtanttiialllly diifffferrentt prrojjectt tthan tthe Dedeaux biiogrraphy,, and tthe book was
Tha was a subs an a y d e en p o ec han he Dedeaux b og aphy and he book was
neverr complletted..
neve comp e ed

Speaking of Spaceman, he may be the most egalitarian big-time athlete ever. In 1987-88
he was running for "President" on the whimsical Canadian Rhinoceros Party ticket. A
true Don Quixote, that one. I was a member of the buttoned-down, ever-so-serious
Orange County Young Republicans, assigned to inviting guest speakers. I arranged for
Spaceman to address our large group. People looked at this guy like he was crazy and
wondered, "Why is he speaking to the OCYRs?" But Space held them in thrall,
announcing, "I'm more conservative than you. I'm so conservative I eat road kill." Then:
"I'm so far to the right I'm standing back-to-back with Chairman Mao." Take it from me,
this may not sound funny, but when Spaceman says it, it is. People were literally rolling
in the aisles. Afterward Bill worked the room, wooing some blonde USC debutante with
stories about how he beat the Southern Illinois Salukis in the 1968 College World Series.
She had this quizzical look on her face. Salukis?
Later, Bill introduced me to his Aunt Annabelle, the model for the women baseball
players in A League of Their Own. I wrote a magazine column about her. Bill stayed at
my home in Orange County but when I got up at six in the morning, he was gone. He was
doing tai chi with my 90-year old Chinese neighbor. That day he hit the road with me. I
stopped at an attorney's office but he stayed in the car while I conducted business.
Suddenly the secretary rushed in saying, "Call 911, call 911, there's a man having a heart
attack in the parking lot." I looked out the window and it was Bill doing his afternoon tai
chi.
        I invited Bill to the 502 Club and told Terry, Chris Wildermuth, Phil Smith and

Bruno Caravalho to meet us. Terry, an enormous Red Sox fan, was convinced Spaceman

would blow us off. Then he arrived and regaled us for several hours with Bosox stories.

Bill remains a good friend to this day and should be in the Trojan Athletic Hall of Fame.

After we all graduated, many of us continued to live in the Los Angeles area. I was
married in 1985, had a daughter, Elizabeth, and bought a home in Orange County. Later,
after I was divorced, I moved to the south bay area of Redondo and then Hermosa Beach.
Bruno bought the 502 Club and I frequented the place. For a brief time I even managed it.
Sundays after Los Angeles Raiders games were always an adventure, what with Raiders
players, Raiderettes, and USC players co-mingling.
        I got to know a whole new group of Trojan athletes, among them baseball players

Brett Boone, Jeff Cirillo, Mark Smith, Randy Powers, Danny Gil, Brett Jenkins, John

Cummings, Mike Robertson and Jackie Nickell. Damon Buford was a friend whose dad

was the aforementioned Don Buford. Several were crossover baseball-football stars, like

Rodney Peete, John Jackson and Rob Johnson. I later saw several of these people, now
big leaguers, in my professional duties as a sports columnist at Dodger Stadium, Edison

Field (now Angels Stadium), San Francisco's Pac Bell Park (now AT&T) and Oakland's

McAfee Coliseum.

Some of the football players I be-friended were Scott Mills, Gene Fruge, Scott Ross,
Todd Marinovich, Martin Chesley, Cleveland Colter, Junior Seau, Mark Carrier, Matt
Gee, Chris Hale and Mike Salmon. Fruge, Mills, Ross and Gee, I think, shared a home
near the Coliseum. One night they had a party and I decided to crash on their couch.
Fruge owned a pitbull who was friendly so long as he saw that I was Gene's friend. In the
middle of the night I awoke and needed to go to the bathroom. I arose and heard a
menacing growl from the dog. I held my own until one of the guys "rescued" me. I lived
in the south bay and later Marinovich moved down there. I liked Todd, despite his
troubles. He, Bruno and I spent some time in the San Francisco Bay Area, as well. Todd's
cousin, Mark Fertig (the son of Craig Fertig) played on the baseball team.
        Tiim Ryan was an Alll--Amerriican who marrrriied a Raiiderrettte.. II allmostt gott iin a ffiightt
        T m Ryan was an A Ame can who ma ed a Ra de e e a mos go n a gh

one niightt wiitth Don Giibson and hiis brrottherr,, Crraiig.. Brruno's brrottherr,, Doug -- a diipllomattiic
one n gh w h Don G bson and h s b o he C a g B uno's b o he Doug a d p oma c

ttype -- smootthed tthiings overr..
  ype smoo hed h ngs ove

Yes,, O..J.. Siimpson and hiis bombshelll wiiffe,, Niicolle,, woulld come iintto tthe "Fiive--oh,," offtten
 Yes O J S mpson and h s bombshe w e N co e wou d come n o he "F ve oh " o en
tto hang outt wiitth Marrcus Allllen,, and yes,, my cop buddy Phiill Smiitth once brroughtt hiis cop
  o hang ou w h Ma cus A en and yes my cop buddy Ph Sm h once b ough h s cop
buddy Marrk Fuhrrman iintto tthe pllace.. IIn rrettrrospectt,, iitt seems allmostt Shakespearrean..
 buddy Ma k Fuh man n o he p ace n e ospec                                seems a mos Shakespea ean
Forr a whiille,, II purrsued coachiing.. II was a collleague off Dave Lawn,, who was Miike
 Fo a wh e pu sued coach ng was a co eague o Dave Lawn who was M ke
Giillllespiie's piittchiing coach att USC fforr a numberr off yearrs.. Miike and II became ffrriiends,, iin
 G esp e's p ch ng coach a USC o a numbe o yea s M ke and became ends n
parrtt because II had known hiis son--iin--llaw,, Chad Krreutterr,, siince Chad was a kiid..
 pa because had known h s son n aw Chad K eu e s nce Chad was a k d
           Afftterr coachiing II was,, fforr a brriieff perriiod off ttiime,, a sporrtts agentt.. II callll tthiis my
            A e coach ng was o a b e pe od o me a spo s agen ca h s my

"wiillderrness yearr.." II fforrmed a company tthatt rreprresentted Piitttsburrgh Piirrattes outtffiiellderr All
"w de ness yea " o med a company ha ep esen ed P sbu gh P a es ou e de A

Marrttiin.. Marrttiin's sttorry iis ttellliing off Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan,, orr perrhaps Whatt IItt
Ma n Ma n's s o y s e ng o Wha Means o Be a Tro an o pe haps Wha

Means NOT tto Be a Trojjan!! Befforre All pllayed prro baseballl,, he was rrecrruiitted tto pllay
Means NOT o Be a Tro an Be o e A p ayed p o baseba he was ec u ed o p ay

ffoottballll fforr tthe Trrojjans outt off Westt Coviina.. He arrrriived att ttrraiiniing camp,, whiich opens
  oo ba o he T o ans ou o Wes Cov na He a ved a a n ng camp wh ch opens

everry yearr a montth orr so befforre schooll.. All was a "Trrojjan" aboutt a week when he quiitt orr
eve y yea a mon h o so be o e schoo A was a "T o an" abou a week when he qu o

was kiicked offff.. He diid nott have whatt iitt ttook tto be a Trrojjan..
was k cked o He d d no have wha                    ook o be a T o an

Later, when my sports agency folded I thought it was a disaster. Al was gone from my
life. It was a blessing. Al was a man-child. Details are not printable, but after we parted
company his character was revealed in national stories that ran in the late 1990s. First, Al
told the media he had played in the Rose Bowl, when as I mention he got booted from
Trojan football after a week or so or practice. That was nothing compared to what he then
did. Martin carried on a bigamous relationship with a mistress while still legally married
and a father. When the "other woman" threatened to hold him to his "vows" in a drunken
Vegas "wedding," Martin threatened to "O.J. you." By then I had, to quote a Robert
Downey movie title, Less Than Zero to do with Al, who had no idea What It Means to Be
a Trojan.
        The break-up of the sports agency had a silver lining beyond separation from the

"man"-child Martin. I met the baseball player Bo Belinsky and wrote a screenplay about

his life. That got me into writing, my true passion. In researching Bo's life I met Bob

Case, a true USC fan who grew up in Glendale with Rod Dedeaux's son, Justin.

         As I matured and got into the writing game, I made valuable professional

associations, many through my USC connections. One was the respected Los Angeles

public relations man Carl Terzian, a great Trojan. When I wrote for the Los Angeles

Times, the two main people I worked for were Trojans, Bob Rowher and Gary Klein. Bob

once told us, "Give it to me straight. I don't want to hear about any 'Four Horsemen' or

'Thundering Herds.' "

 Jim Watson, a USC man, once interviewed me in the Fox Sports studios for an hour
 about a long article I wrote on the greatest high school athletes in Los Angeles-Orange
 County history. A great guy, Jimmy. My editor with the sports magazine I worked for in
 Marina Del Rey was a fine Trojan named John Simerson, who is now at KTTV/11. Steve
 Randall, a USC grad and novelist, was an editor at Playboy magazine. He assigned the
 Playboy interview to me: Barry Bonds. I was going to co-write Bonds's authorized
 autobiography, but when Barry turned down the money offers from publishers, the
 Playboy interview fell through, too.
 In recent years, I had the pleasure of meeting Lindsay Soto (USC '98) of Fox Sports at
 alumni gatherings. I also became friends with Chuck Hayes, who along with Harvey
 Hyde co-hosts "Trojan talk" on the radio. Both great guys. What It Means to Be a Trojan
 means rejoicing in the success of others, and none is more deserving than Garry
 Paskiewitz with www.wearesc.com. Radio reporter Marna Davis is a fine Trojan. I first
 met Mike Garrett at the 2000 Pac-10 media day, and spoke with him at length about his
 college baseball buddy, Tom Seaver.
A good ffrriiend fforr yearrs was Bud "tthe Stteamerr" Furriilllo,, a memberr off tthe mediia wiing off
 A good end o yea s was Bud " he S eame " Fu o a membe o he med a w ng o
tthe USC Atthllettiic Hallll off Fame.. II ffiirrstt worrked wiitth Bud when II wrrotte a scrreenpllay aboutt
   he USC A h e c Ha o Fame                        s wo ked w h Bud when w o e a sc eenp ay abou
tthe baseballll pllayerr Bo Belliinsky and enjjoyed hiis company iin tthe Colliiseum prress box.. II
   he baseba p aye Bo Be nsky and en oyed h s company n he Co seum p ess box
may rreviive tthatt scrreenpllay,, Once He Was an Angell,, orr tturrn iitt iintto a book.. II am allso a
 may ev ve ha sc eenp ay Once He Was an Ange o u n n o a book am a so a
ffrriiend wiitth hiis ex--wiiffe,, Cherriie Kerrrr.. II was saddened by hiis passiing,, whiich occurrrred rriightt
      end w h h s ex w e Che e Ke                       was saddened by h s pass ng wh ch occu ed gh
afftterr Bud wrrotte tthe fforreworrd tto my book Dodgers Essenttiiall..
a e Bud w o e he o ewo d o my book Dodgers Essen a
In conducting interviews and research I have been fortunate to get to know some terrific
folks. Patty Goux, the widow of Marv Goux, was very helpful and gracious to me. I once
heard from people who worked at USC's bookstore in the South Coast Plaza in Costa
Mesa that she was reading my book The USC Trojans: College Football's All-Time
Greatest Dynasty in the store and began to cry, overcome at emotion over the words
about her departed husband. Former player and coach Willie Brown I found to be a real
gentleman. Former All-American lineman John Vella offered to have me do
booksignings at his sporting goods store, Vella's Locker Room. I met Rod Sherman and
John Lambert at alumni gatherings. Dwight Chapin, who once covered Trojan football
for the Los Angeles Times, became a friend. His colleague, Jeff Prugh, both a sportswriter
and bureau chief for the Times, is a very dear friend and great pro.
           I interviewed Barry Zito when he was just coming out of USC and was not yet a

Cy Young Award-winner, maintaining a friendship with he and his dad, Joe, and sister

Sally, a musician. Bill Redell, who played football at USC before transferring to

Occidental College (he is in the College Football Hall of Fame now) had discussed

writing a book about football and faith with me. I may tackle that with Bill at some point.

I once wrote a magazine article about Petros Papadakis, and was later invited by his
father, John, to dinner at Papadakis Taverna with the great Sam "Bam" Cunningham and
Fox Sports producer Mark Houska.
        Prior to this book, I have written three books about the University of Southern

California: The USC Trojans: College Football's All-Time Greatest Dynasty (2006),

Trojans Essential: Everything You Need to Know to Be a Real Fan! (2008), and One

Night, Two Teams: Alabama vs. USC and the Game That Changed a Nation (2007).

When the latter book was published, I got a phone call from my good friend and great

Trojan, Lloyd Robinson of Suite A Management in Beverly Hills.

His client, a wonderful USC graduate named Jim Starr, was friends with Trojan legend
Anthony Davis. A.D. wanted to help produce my book into a film. This led to meetings
and an eventual production partnership with Kerry McCluggage, USC '75, a leading
Hollywood player, whose team includes credits like Patch Adams, Star Trek: The Next
Generation, Miami Vice, Catch Me If You Can, and the Indian Jones sequel. Kerry's
assistant, Sebastian Twardosz, is a USC film school graduate who will eventually make a
big name for himself in show biz. The film will be based on my book and another one
written by John Papadakis and Sam "Bam" Cunningham.
        A typical example of how thoroughly USC dominates Tinsel Town was
demonstrated one day when Lloyd, Jim, A.D. and I took a meeting at the office of Magic

Johnson's longtime agent, Lon Rosen, at the William Morris Agency in Beverly Hills.

There were eight people in the room; all were Trojans.

         In recent years, I have had the pleasure of meeting and getting to know Trojan

football players of the Pete Carroll era. Some of these fine young men include Justin

Fargas, Brandon Hancock and Tom Malone. Walking out of the Coliseum one fine

afternoon I struck up a conversation with an interesting young fellow named Sunny Byrd.

I also wrote a magazine column about Carson Palmer before Carroll was hired. In that

column I was the first scribe I am aware of to predict Palmer would win the Heisman

Trophy. It took Carroll and Norm Chow to make that prediction come true.

 As an active member of the alumni association, I have had the pleasure of getting to
 know some wonderful Trojans, including Dr. Keith Matsuoka, Jamie McGinley, Mark
 Gonzalez, Jim Restrich, Walt Wellsfry, Robert "Red" Smith, Meribeth Farmer, Mark
 Wleklinski, Lindsey Lautz, Dale Komai, Gordon Pitts, Carl Holm, Kathy Yaffe, Bob
 Whitehill, Marni Lovrich, Nick Racic, Cynthia Christian, Shannon Abraham, Don
 Leisey, the Prince family, Chuck and Rene Lamb, and Bruce and Heath Seltzer. Our
 alumni dinners have allowed me to meet such great Trojans as Mike Garrett, Tim Floyd,
 Rudy Hackett, Paul McDonald, Justin Dedeaux, Michele Dedeaux Engemann and Dr. Art
 Bartner.
Thrrough my wrriittiings and iintterrviiews wiitth numerrous USC ffoottballl pllayerrs,, II have had tthe
 Th ough my w ngs and n e v ews w h nume ous USC oo ba p aye s have had he
opporrttuniitty tto meett memberrs off tthe Trrojjan Foottballl Allumnii Cllub,, an excllusiive grroup
 oppo un y o mee membe s o he T o an Foo ba A umn C ub an exc us ve g oup
tthatt meetts jjustt norrtth off tthe perriisttylle enttrrance tto tthe L..A.. Colliiseum befforre games.. Among
  ha mee s us no h o he pe s y e en ance o he L A Co seum be o e games Among
tthe wonderrffull guys II have had tthe plleasurre tto meett,, iin addiittiion tto many off tthe pllayerrs
  he wonde u guys have had he p easu e o mee n add on o many o he p aye s
iintterrviiewed iin tthiis book,, iis tthe Allll--Amerriican Marrviin McKeeverr,, who passed away ffarr
  n e v ewed n h s book s he A Ame can Ma v n McKeeve who passed away a
ttoo young.. II have allso tthorroughlly enjjoyed Riikii Ellliison's ttaiillgattes helld annualllly att eiittherr
  oo young have a so ho ough y en oyed R k E son's a ga es he d annua y a e he
Call orr Sttanfforrd.. Thatt guy iis uniique!!
 Ca o S an o d Tha guy s un que
            Finally, my career as a professional writer has hinged in large part on my

association with my alma mater, the University of Southern California. I have found

opportunity in large measure because I am a proud Trojan. In writing what is now four

books about Trojan sports history, I have earned the following words from Coach Pete

Carroll himself: "Steve Travers is the next great USC historian. The Trojan Nation needs
your work!"

Because of this, I have had the honor of addressing the freshman at parent's weekend,
with thanks to Tina Orkin. I have become a yearly guest lecturer at the Annenberg School
of Communications' class "Sports, Culture and Society," thanks to my good friend
Professor Dan Durbin. I have done book signings at Annenberg, at USC Collections in
Orange County, at the bookstore on campus, and in front of the peristyles at the
Coliseum, thanks to the great work of Cecil Brown, Veronica Callehas and Rosemary
DiSano. I have enjoyed meeting Danielle Harvey.
My books have led me to friendships with such legends as Craig Fertig, Tom Kelly,
Allan Graf, and J.K. McKay. In the case of Manfred Moore, Charles "Tree" Young, Dave
Brown, Rod McNeill and Sam Dickerson, this friendship has become true Christian
fellowship. I also be-friended soldiers in Iraq, like Sergeant Gary Andrade, a Trojan fan
from Anaheim who emailed to tell me that he was chasing terrorists every day and kept
my USC book in a plastic wrap to keep dust out of it. It was the only thing he looked
forward to every night. It was through emails from great Americans like Sergeant
Andrade that I learned we were winning the Iraq War long before that fact became well
known. When Gary finished his tour of duty and returned to his family, I helped arrange
for him to meet the team.
Finally, there is my daughter Elizabeth. As she has flowered into womanhood, I have had
the great pleasure of sharing our mutual love for USC football. Many times I have
enjoyed attending Trojan games at the Coliseum with Elizabeth, just as I was able to
attend baseball and football games with my dad when I was growing up. It does not get
any better than that.
        So there you have it. Had I, when I entered USC - a transfer, lucky just to be

there, grateful to Delores Homisak for giving me a chance - could have had the picture

painted I have just described, well, folks, I would have taken that! Beyond family,

country and God, USC remains something I love with true passion.

        This book is really about the essence of USC, as told by the men who forged its

greatness, its glory and its splendor. These men tell their stories, and all of them share my

passion for the University of Southern California. USC is a modern Rome, a sports

empire of conquerors, of football gladiators who have trod the green plains of stadiums

east, west, north and south, bringing victory home for the Trojan Nation. USC is

American excellence and exceptionalism, a shared experience of love, faith, pride and joy

rarely found in this life. Herein are the stories, the tales, of this love, faith and pride, as
told by some of the men most responsible for these truths. Herein is What It Means to Be

a Trojan.

         Fight On!


                  -    Steven Travers

              (415) 455-5971

              USCSTEVE1@aol.com



                                                     The

                                               TWENTIES


THE DUKE

From Trojans Essential: Everything You Need to Know to Be a Real Fan!, 2008



USC's Hollywood connection



Nate Barrager went to work for RKO Pictures and became a top production manager on

such hits as The Greatest Story Ever Told and, of course, John Wayne films like Hondo,

The Fighting Seabees and The Sands of Iwo Jima. He also worked closely with Bob Hope

on television specials.

         Barrager was part of a long tradition of ties between USC, their football team,

and Hollywood. As big a reason as any for this, aside from the geographical proximity, is

the fact that John Wayne played football for Howard Jones.

"He had allll tthe ffoottballll abiilliitty iin tthe worlld,," saiid Leo Callland.. "He had savvy,, a greatt
"He had a he oo ba ab y n he wor d " sa d Leo Ca and "He had savvy a grea
buiilld and tthe equiipmentt.."
bu d and he equ pmen "
"Duke was a good guard,," saiid Normell C.. Hayhurstt,, hiis coach att Gllendalle Hiigh Schooll..
 "Duke was a good guard " sa d Norme C Hayhurs h s coach a G enda e H gh Schoo
"He pllayed a biig partt iin our wiinniing tthe Centtrall League and tthe Soutthern Calliifforniia
 "He p ayed a b g par n our w nn ng he Cen ra League and he Sou hern Ca orn a
champiionshiip.. He was one off seven pllayers sellectted ffor a ffoottballl schollarshiip att USC..
 champ onsh p He was one o seven p ayers se ec ed or a oo ba scho arsh p a USC
Our 1924 tteam was a good one.."
 Our 1924 eam was a good one "
Otthers,, however,, saiid tthatt Wayne was nott as dediicatted tto ffoottballl as Howard Jones
 O hers however sa d ha Wayne was no as ded ca ed o oo ba as Howard Jones
requiired tthem tto be.. Phottos off Wayne att USC reveall a biig,, good--llookiing guy wiitth bllack,,
 requ red hem o be Pho os o Wayne a USC revea a b g good ook ng guy w h b ack
curlly haiir and a greatt buiilltt who "had tto ffiightt tthe giirlls offf.."
 cur y ha r and a grea bu who "had o gh he g r s o "
The Wayne viisage iis one off a rough ''n'' ttough miilliittary man or cowboy,, more ruggedlly
 The Wayne v sage s one o a rough n ough m ary man or cowboy more rugged y
macho tthan handsome,, butt many ffiillm ffans are onlly ffamiilliiar wiitth moviies he made iin hiis
 macho han handsome bu many m ans are on y am ar w h mov es he made n h s
40s and beyond.. IIn hiis 20s,, tthe man was notthiing lless tthan an Adoniis..
 40s and beyond n h s 20s he man was no h ng ess han an Adon s
Wayne''s tteammatte att USC was Ward Bond,, who woulld go on tto a llong ffiillm career.. Hiis
 Wayne s eamma e a USC was Ward Bond who wou d go on o a ong m career H s
ttypiicall rolles were off IIriish priiestts or siidekiicks,, ffiighttiing wiitth and agaiinstt Wayne,, usuallly
   yp ca ro es were o r sh pr es s or s dek cks gh ng w h and aga ns Wayne usua y
wiindiing up shariing a shott off whiisky as a conciilliiattory gestture.. Bond had greatt desiire butt
 w nd ng up shar ng a sho o wh sky as a conc a ory ges ure Bond had grea des re bu
llacked Wayne''s physiicall abiilliittiies.. Observers off tthe ttwo saiid tthatt iiff Wayne''s ttallentt and
   acked Wayne s phys ca ab es Observers o he wo sa d ha Wayne s a en and
Bond''s desiire coulld be morphed,, tthe resulltt woulld have been an Alll--Ameriican..
 Bond s des re cou d be morphed he resu wou d have been an A Amer can
Gene Cllarke,, a lliineman who pllayed ffor Jones,, cllaiims tto have had a hand iin makiing
 Gene C arke a neman who p ayed or Jones c a ms o have had a hand n mak ng
Wayne a piictture sttar.. By acciidentt.. Wayne was llookiing fforward tto beiing tthe sttarttiing riightt
 Wayne a p c ure s ar By acc den Wayne was ook ng orward o be ng he s ar ng r gh
ttacklle iin hiis sophomore year..
   ack e n h s sophomore year
"Duke and II used tto go down tto Ballboa Beach and riide tthose biig waves,," saiid Cllarke..
 "Duke and used o go down o Ba boa Beach and r de hose b g waves " sa d C arke
Ballboa Beach iis iin Newportt,, and tthose "biig waves" are partt off tthe nottoriious "Wedge,,"
 Ba boa Beach s n Newpor and hose "b g waves" are par o he no or ous "Wedge "
whiich has produced iinjjured surffers ffor decades.. IItt iis nott uncommon tto observe wiisttffull
 wh ch has produced n ured sur ers or decades                             s no uncommon o observe w s u
men iin wheellchaiirs sttariing att tthe ocean weariing tt--shiirtts tthatt read,, "Viicttiim off tthe
 men n whee cha rs s ar ng a he ocean wear ng sh r s ha read "V c m o he
Wedge.."
 Wedge "
"One day we''re alll on tthe sand wiitth prettty coeds allll around.. You know how everyone
 "One day we re a on he sand w h pre y coeds a around You know how everyone
lliikes tto show offff,, parttiicullarlly Duke and me..
    kes o show o par cu ar y Duke and me
"These biig waves sttartted tto come iin.. We callled tthem,, ''buttt--bustters..'' II mean,, tthey were
 "These b g waves s ar ed o come n We ca ed hem bu bus ers mean hey were
BIIG!! They were washiing tthe botttom off tthe piier.. Duke says,, ''Come on,, llett''s go and riide
 B G They were wash ng he bo om o he p er Duke says Come on e s go and r de
tthem..'' II saiid,, ''You gottta be nutts,, tthey''lll kiilll us..'' He saiid,, ''Come on,, you''ve gott no gutts!!''
   hem sa d You go a be nu s hey k us He sa d Come on you ve go no gu s
And II saiid,, ''Dammiitt,, iiff you''re crazy enough,, II''lll go..'' "
 And sa d Damm                    you re crazy enough                  go "
15 miinuttes llatter,, Cllarke and Wayne were outt pastt tthe breakers..
 15 m nu es a er C arke and Wayne were ou pas he breakers
"II warned Duke tthatt tthe breakers cup hard,," saiid Cllarke,, butt Duke was caughtt iin one..
 " warned Duke ha he breakers cup hard " sa d C arke bu Duke was caugh n one
The llastt he saw was Duke goiing down..
 The as he saw was Duke go ng down
"He hiitt tthe sand,," saiid Cllarke,, "and iiff he hadn''tt pulllled hiis head tto one siide he probablly
 "He h he sand " sa d C arke "and he hadn pu ed h s head o one s de he probab y
woulld have bustted hiis neck.. As iitt was iitt diisllocatted hiis shoullder.."
 wou d have bus ed h s neck As was d s oca ed h s shou der "
The body surffiing adventture had occurred tthree weeks priior tto tthe begiinniing off ffallll
 The body sur ng adven ure had occurred hree weeks pr or o he beg nn ng o a
ffoottballll practtiice..
   oo ba prac ce
"He was pllayiing riightt ttacklle iin tthe olld Howard Jones power pllays,," saiid Cllarke,, "and iin
 "He was p ay ng r gh ack e n he o d Howard Jones power p ays " sa d C arke "and n
tthiis systtem you used your riightt shoullder bllockiing allll tthe ttiime.."
   h s sys em you used your r gh shou der b ock ng a he me "
Wayne was iinjjured and unablle efffecttuatte tthe bllockiing patttterns
 Wayne was n ured and unab e e ec ua e he b ock ng pa erns
""The olld man woulld giive hiim helll ffor iitt,," saiid Cllarke.. "Wiitth Jones you slleptt,, atte,, and
 ""The o d man wou d g ve h m he or " sa d C arke "W h Jones you s ep a e and
drank ffoottballll 365 days a year.. He woulldn''tt understtand anyone gettttiing hurtt iin a ffoolliish
 drank oo ba 365 days a year He wou dn unders and anyone ge ng hur n a oo sh
acciidentt lliike tthatt.. Welll,, whatt happened was tthe olld man tthoughtt Wayne diidn''tt have any
 acc den ke ha We wha happened was he o d man hough Wayne d dn have any
gutts.. He diidn''tt know aboutt tthe shoullder iinjjury,, off course.. So he putt hiim down on tthe
 gu s He d dn know abou he shou der n ury o course So he pu h m down on he
ffourtth or ffiifftth tteam.. Took Wayne offf tthe ttraiiniing ttablle,, and he had tto scrounge ffor hiis
   our h or h eam Took Wayne o he ra n ng ab e and he had o scrounge or h s
own mealls.. He owed tthe ffratterniitty house so much dough tthatt tthey had tto ask hiim tto move
 own mea s He owed he ra ern y house so much dough ha hey had o ask h m o move
outt unttiill he coulld pay.. He dropped outt off schooll and wentt tto Fox Sttudiios.."
 ou un he cou d pay He dropped ou o schoo and wen o Fox S ud os "
Born Mariion Miichaell Morriison on May 26,, 1907 iin Wiinttersett,, IIowa,, tthe son off a
 Born Mar on M chae Morr son on May 26 1907 n W n erse owa he son o a
druggiistt and a motther off atttracttiive IIriish piioneer sttock,, young Mariion moved tto tthe
 drugg s and a mo her o a rac ve r sh p oneer s ock young Mar on moved o he
Calliifforniia desertt wiitth hiis ffamiilly when he was siix.. "Doc" Morriison had llung probllems
 Ca orn a deser w h h s am y when he was s x "Doc" Morr son had ung prob ems
and iimproved iin tthe warm clliimatte..
 and mproved n he warm c ma e
IIn tthatt enviironmentt,, Morriison offtten ffanttasiized tthatt he was a cowboy on a dangerous
    n ha env ronmen Morr son o en an as zed ha he was a cowboy on a dangerous
miissiion.. He rode a horse every day jjustt tto gett groceriies and run errands.. He woulld scare
 m ss on He rode a horse every day us o ge grocer es and run errands He wou d scare
hiimsellff iintto belliieviing he was chasiing or beiing chased by outtllaws..
 h mse n o be ev ng he was chas ng or be ng chased by ou aws
When Doc Morriison''s healltth iimproved he moved tthe ffamiilly tto tthe Los Angelles area..
 When Doc Morr son s hea h mproved he moved he am y o he Los Ange es area
Gllendalle iin tthose days was sttiilll open counttry,, and Mariion lliived a perffectt boys lliiffe,,
 G enda e n hose days was s open coun ry and Mar on ved a per ec boys e
ffiishiing and swiimmiing.. Morriison gott tthe niickname "Duke" ffrom a llocall ffiireman because
     sh ng and sw mm ng Morr son go he n ckname "Duke" rom a oca reman because
hiis dog''s name was Duke and tthe ffiireman diid nott know Mariion''s reall name.. Att ffiirstt he
 h s dog s name was Duke and he reman d d no know Mar on s rea name A rs he
was "Liitttlle Duke,," butt when he grew tto 6--4 iitt was jjustt Duke.. Att Gllendalle Hiigh,, Duke diid
 was "L e Duke " bu when he grew o 6 4 was us Duke A G enda e H gh Duke d d
nott onlly sttar iin ffoottballl,, butt he perfformed Shakespearean dramas.. He was an honor
 no on y s ar n oo ba bu he per ormed Shakespearean dramas He was an honor
sttudentt,, presiidentt off tthe Lettterman Sociietty,, seniior cllass presiidentt,, and a ttop debatter.. He
 s uden pres den o he Le erman Soc e y sen or c ass pres den and a op deba er He
lloved tto dance and giirlls wentt ffor hiim..
   oved o dance and g r s wen or h m
Despiitte hiis ffoottballl schollarshiip att USC,, he needed tto earn exttra money and became a
 Desp e h s oo ba scho arsh p a USC he needed o earn ex ra money and became a
ttop scallper.. Hiis scallpiing ttook hiim tto tthe Hollllywood Atthllettiic Cllub,, and he allso diid work
   op sca per H s sca p ng ook h m o he Ho ywood A h e c C ub and he a so d d work
ffor tthe phone company on moviie llotts.. IItt was Howard Jones,, however,, who gott hiim
   or he phone company on mov e o s was Howard Jones however who go h m
sttartted iin Holllywood,, so tto speak,, when he arranged ffor Morriison and Don Wiillliiams tto
 s ar ed n Ho ywood so o speak when he arranged or Morr son and Don W ams o
"ttraiin" acttor Tom Miix ffor a cowboy moviie calllled The Greatt K And A Traiin Robbery..
 " ra n" ac or Tom M x or a cowboy mov e ca ed The Grea K And A Tra n Robbery
They condiittiioned Miix and moved setts ffor $35 a week..
 They cond oned M x and moved se s or $35 a week
Morriison mett ffamed diirecttor John Ford,, who made hiim a prop man and lliiked hiis rugged
 Morr son me amed d rec or John Ford who made h m a prop man and ked h s rugged
ffiillm presence enough tto castt hiim iin 1928''s Hangman''s House..
      m presence enough o cas h m n 1928 s Hangman s House
Ford llatter made a ffoottballl moviie aboutt tthe Navall Academy,, Sallutte,, and wantted USC
 Ford a er made a oo ba mov e abou he Nava Academy Sa u e and wan ed USC
pllayers ffor iitt.. He needed tthem ffulll--ttiime beffore tthe end off tthe semestter,, and made
 p ayers or He needed hem u me be ore he end o he semes er and made
Morriison hiis go--bettween.. Morriison overcame majjor admiiniisttrattiive hurdlles iin granttiing
 Morr son h s go be ween Morr son overcame ma or adm n s ra ve hurd es n gran ng
permiissiion ffrom schooll offfiiciialls,, whiich iimpressed Ford.. He lled a dellegattiion tthatt ttraiined
 perm ss on rom schoo o c a s wh ch mpressed Ford He ed a de ega on ha ra ned
eastt iin May,, 1929,, amiid much ffanffare.. The pllayers iinclluded Cllark Galllloway,, Russ
 eas n May 1929 am d much an are The p ayers nc uded C ark Ga oway Russ
Saunders,, Jack Buttller,, Tony Stteponoviich,, Jess Shaw,, Frank Antthony,, All Schaub,,
 Saunders Jack Bu er Tony S eponov ch Jess Shaw Frank An hony A Schaub
Marshalll Duffffiielld,, and Natte Barrager.. The ttriip diid cause some concern tthatt tthe work
 Marsha Du e d and Na e Barrager The r p d d cause some concern ha he work
consttiittutted proffessiionalliism,, siince tthe pllayers beneffiitted ffiinanciiallly by viirttue off tthe ffactt
 cons u ed pro ess ona sm s nce he p ayers bene ed nanc a y by v r ue o he ac
tthatt tthey pllayed ffoottballl att USC..
   ha hey p ayed oo ba a USC
           Diirecttor Raoull Wallsh gave Morriison tthe name John Wayne when he sttarred iin a
            D rec or Raou Wa sh gave Morr son he name John Wayne when he s arred n a

$2 miilllliion specttacullar callled Biig Traiill iin 1929.. IIn 1939 he broke tthrough wiitth John
$2 m on spec acu ar ca ed B g Tra n 1929 n 1939 he broke hrough w h John

Ford''s Sttagecoach.. He was nomiinatted ffor an Oscar as Sergeantt Sttryker iin The Sands off
Ford s S agecoach He was nom na ed or an Oscar as Sergean S ryker n The Sands o

IIwo Jiima,, and by 1949 was tthe ttop box offfiice attttracttiion iin tthe worlld.. Hiis viisuall
  wo J ma and by 1949 was he op box o ce a rac on n he wor d H s v sua

appearance,, however,, was siigniiffiicanttlly diifffferentt by tthen tthan iitt had been iin tthe 1920s,,
appearance however was s gn can y d eren by hen han had been n he 1920s

when he was more prettty and handsome tthan rugged.. Wayne lliiked tto pulll a cork iin reall
when he was more pre y and handsome han rugged Wayne ked o pu a cork n rea

lliiffe jjustt as hiis screen charactters diid,, whiich may expllaiin tthiis..
      e us as h s screen charac ers d d wh ch may exp a n h s
Other classic Wayne films include The Quiet Man and The Longest Day. In 1969 he
finally earned a Best Actor Academy Award for his role as Rooster Cogburn in True Grit.
        Even though he left school early without making a mark on Howard Jones's

football team, and never graduated (although he was awarded an honorary doctorate),

Wayne is inexplicably tied to the school and its football tradition. Through Wayne, Jones

arranged for USC players to work as extras on movies. Aside from Salute, extravagant

Hollywood productions of the era often featured Trojan players in the roles of Roman

Legionnaires, Napoleon's Grand Armee, or Biblical flocks. This was prior to the NCAA,

and while there was grousing about "professionalism," there never were repercussions.

The Hollywood connection was an enormous recruiting advantage that Jones made use
of. Not only did the players make much-needed extra money, but they were introduced to
the beautiful actresses. As any recruiting coordinator could tell you, no inducement is
greater than pretty girls.
One story that made the rounds and was written about in a late 1990s issue of Los
Angeles magazine concerned Clara Bow, the "it girl" of the silent film era. A gorgeous
brunette, Bow apparently had an insatiable sexual appetite, and allegedly used Duke
Wayne to arrange wild orgies at her Hollywood Hills mansion. This was the kind of
extracurricular activity that schools such as Iowa or Duke, where Jones had toiled
previously, could not offer.
Wayne maintained a strong association with USC until his death in 1979. When he
visited his friend Gene Clarke at the Sigma Chi fraternity house, he noticed a derby that
had been given Clarke as a member of Southern Cal's 1931 team.
"Don't you wear it?" asked Wayne.
Clarke thought it was silly, but Wayne was so taken with the memento from SC's stirring
victory over the Irish that he "wore that derby for the longest time, hardly ever took it
off."
Nick Pappas developed a very close relationship with Wayne, and used Duke many times
in his role as director of Trojans' Athletic Support Groups.
        "He's a fraternity brother of mine, and the night before a big game with Texas in

1966 we were having cocktails together," Pappas said in Ken Rappoport's book The

Trojans: A Story of Southern California Football. The interview took place prior to

Wayne's 1979 passing.

       "This is in Austin, see, and he had come in just for the game," said Pappas. "We

drank until about four in the morning - Wayne's drinking scotch and soda all this time.
All the guys at the party had gone to dinner and come back and then gone to bed, and

we're still in there drinking.

"In the course of our conversation, he says, 'Pap, I want to talk to the kids at breakfast
tomorrow.'
"I told him, 'You're in, Duke,' without thinking. I hadn't asked anyone whether it would be
all right for Wayne to talk to our football team on the morning of the game. It was a big
one, a season opener with Texas ranked number one and us number two.
"But I remembered that Coach John McKay loved John Wayne movies. He used to talk
about his big evening - sitting home with a peanut butter sandwich and a glass of
chocolate milk and watching a John Wayne movie. And he never met him. I also
remembered that McKay would awaken early on the day of games, he was always up by
six o'clock, and read the papers. Have breakfast, and go over his diagrams. He was
constantly working on football.
"So I call McKay and tell him I had a problem. 'Look, John,' I said. 'I was with John
Wayne last night. He asked me if he could talk to the kids, and I said, yeah.' And before I
could finish, McKay says, 'Geez, great…bring him down.'
"The kids are all assembled in the locker room at 10 in the morning, and in walks Wayne.
Damn, he was fantastic. He walks in with this white 20,000-gallon cowboy hat and black
suit - he looked just beautiful. The kids look up, and their eyeballs pop. Here's the REAL
John Wayne. And Wayne walks over to the coach and gives him a big hello and squeezes
him - you'd think he and McKay were long lost buddies. They had never met before.
"It was beautiful. A former player and all, Wayne gives one of the greatest fight talks
you've ever heard - and the kids got all fired up. We win the ballgame 10-6, and back in
the locker room after the game, McKay says, 'Hey, guys, how about it? Let's give the
game ball to John Wayne.'
"For a moment Wayne stands there - nonplussed. It was probably the first time in his life
that he couldn't think of anything to say. Then he looks at the ball for a minute and pumps
it like a quarterback. Then he puts the ball under his arm, and the kids break into a
cheer, 'Hooray, Hooray.' All the guys joined in. He's still a Trojan."
Mike Walden was the USC play-by-play announcer, and recalls that 1966 Texas game,
and Wayne's unique role in the events of that weekend.
"My first game in 1966 was on the road vs. Texas," said Walden. "There'd be a press
gathering in Austin, what they called 'smokers' down there, where everybody got
together. Well, Wayne was down there making War Wagon in nearby Mexico, and he
shows up with Bruce Cabot.
          " 'I'm gonna have some whisky,' Wayne says to the bartender, who pours it, and

Wayne just looks at it, shoved it back, and said, 'I said WHISKEY!'

         "Texas had a quartterback tthey callled ''Super Biilll'' Bradlley who was supposed tto
         "Texas had a quar erback hey ca ed Super B Brad ey who was supposed o

be outtsttandiing,, butt SC jjustt conttrolllled tthe balll and won,, 10--6.. Afftterwards,, <assiisttantt
be ou s and ng bu SC us con ro ed he ba and won 10 6 A erwards <ass s an

coach Marv> Goux came iin and saiid wasn''tt iitt greatt,, we ''diidn''tt gett anybody ''chiipped offf..''
coach Marv> Goux came n and sa d wasn             grea we d dn ge anybody ch pped o
Wellll,, Wayne and Cabott were somewhere,, and someone gott iin an argumentt tthe nextt
We Wayne and Cabo were somewhere and someone go n an argumen he nex

morniing and ttheiir make--up arttiistt was dead off a heartt atttack.. IItt was conffusiing,, II don''tt
morn ng and he r make up ar s was dead o a hear a ack was con us ng don

know ffor sure whatt alll happened.. Wayne and alll off ''em were outt driinkiing allll niightt and
know or sure wha a happened Wayne and a o em were ou dr nk ng a n gh and

came iin att seven iin tthe morniing,, maybe iitt was ttoo much ffor tthiis guy,, butt tthiis make--up
came n a seven n he morn ng maybe was oo much or h s guy bu h s make up

arttiistt diied..
ar s d ed

           " ''Welll,,'' Cabott saiid,, 'We gott somebody ''chiipped offff,,'' afftter Goux saiid ''we diidn''tt
           " We Cabo sa d 'We go somebody ch pped o a er Goux sa d we d dn

gett anybody ''chiipped offf..'' "
ge anybody ch pped o "

           Wayne was an absolute Republican and a superpatriot, traits that were fairly

common in Hollywood when he was in his prime, but towards the end of his career he

found himself increasingly isolated from his fellow actors. In 1968, Alabama's

segregationist Governor, George Wallace, ran for President as an independent. He asked

Wayne to be his Vice-Presidential running mate. Wayne agreed with Wallace when it

came to states' rights and fighting Communism, but could not stomach racism. He

declined.

           Tiired off tthe lliiberall mediia spiin off tthe Viiettnam War,, he made a hiighlly jjiingoiisttiic
           T red o he bera med a sp n o he V e nam War he made a h gh y ngo s c

ffiillm,, The Grreen Berretts.. IItt was propagandiisttiic iin natture and llacked griittty realliism,, butt
      m The G een Be e s was propagand s c n na ure and acked gr y rea sm bu

viiewiing iitt ttoday,, tthe ffiillm does emphasiize miilliittary heroiism tthatt cannott be deniied.. IItt was a
v ew ng oday he m does emphas ze m ary hero sm ha canno be den ed was a

huge box offffiice success.. Thatt and tthree 1970 war ffiillms,, Pattton,, Torra!! Torra!! Torra!!,, and
huge box o ce success Tha and hree 1970 war ms Pa on To a To a To a and

Miidway,, alll succeeded arttiisttiicalllly and ffiinanciiallly,, showiing tthatt tthe Ameriican publliic was
M dway a succeeded ar s ca y and nanc a y show ng ha he Amer can pub c was

nott as wiidelly anttii--war as tthe popullar miisconcepttiions off tthe era..
no as w de y an war as he popu ar m sconcep ons o he era

Wayne's conservatism earned him plenty of critics, but even in 1969, when he won the
Oscar for True Grit, Hollywood opened its hearts to him without reservation. Others
found him to be a celluloid hero who had not served in wars while real war heroes like
Ted Williams were thought to be "the real John Wayne."
Jeff Prugh, the L.A. Times beat writer for USC football in the 1960s and '70s, recalls a
story from that 1966 weekend in Austin.
         "Well, there was this one L.A. sportswriter writer whose name shall remain

anonymous," said Prugh. "Everyone is gathered at the bar, and John Wayne's holding

court. This old writer is off in the corner getting drunker and drunker. He's liberal and

Wayne's an outspoken conservative Republican. Finally, this old writer has had enough,

and he approaches Wayne, interrupts him in mid-sentence with all Wayne's pals staring

at him."

         " So… …" the old drunk writer says, "they tell me, uh… … they call ya… The

Duke!"

         "''Yeah,, whatt off iitt?" says Wayne..
         " Yeah wha o ?" says Wayne

"Thiis wriitter jjustt gatthers hiimsellff,," conttiinued Prugh..
"Th s wr er us ga hers h mse " con nued Prugh
        "Waaall…Duke… … You aiin'' s----tt!!"
        "Waaa …Duke… … You a n s "

         "Well, it was almost a full brawl right then and there but his pals held Wayne

back," said Prugh.

Craiig Ferttiig was a sttar quartterback att USC and a graduatte assiisttantt iin 1966..
Cra g Fer g was a s ar quar erback a USC and a gradua e ass s an n 1966
        "One ttiime,, tthe pllayers wantted tto go see Easy Riiderr,," Ferttiig recallled,, refferriing tto
        "One me he p ayers wan ed o go see Easy R de " Fer g reca ed re err ng o

a "hiippiie" moviie off tthe 1960s.. "Duke Wayne says,, ''Don''tt llett tthe kiids see tthatt crap!!'' So he
a "h pp e" mov e o he 1960s "Duke Wayne says Don e he k ds see ha crap So he

arranged ffor ''em tto see Warr Wagon iinsttead..
arranged or em o see Wa Wagon ns ead

         "I'm low man on the totem pole in '66, so I gotta chaperone the team and do bed

checks. Now McKay's hosting a party for Wayne."

(This contrasts with Nick Pappas' assertion that Wayne and McKay had not met prior to
the morning of the next day's game, but considering that alcohol, old alums and
memories were involved, the discrepancy is a minor one.)
"I finally put the kids to bed, so I make it up to this party, see," continued Fertig. "I see
John Wayne and introduce myself to him, and he's like, 'Oh, I saw you beat Notre Dame,'
and he's just like my best friend.
"Well, he has Bruce Cabot with him, and this make-up artist, too. This make-up artist's
mixing drinks - vodka one time, Bourbon, scotch, right? He's gettin' hammered.
"The next day, I'm assigned to Duke Wayne, 'cause he's gonna speak to the team. Wayne's
mad as hell, 'cause his make-up guys' not there.
" 'Son of a bitch's never around when you need 'im,' he says. It turns out the man's died
during the night, maybe 'cause he mixed drinks and it was too much for his heart.
Anyway, I gotta get Duke ready, the job this dead make-up guy usually does."
Apparently, Wayne had not yet learned of the make-up artist's demise.
" 'Whadda I wear?' asks Duke. I tell him, 'Everybody knows you as a cowboy, so dress
like that.' 10-gallon hat, cowboy boots, brass belt buckle; I got him lookin' good.
"We're scared sh-----s, Texas is number one in the country. So at the stadium he fires up
our team. Then he's introduced to the crowd. He comes out and he's in this cart with my
dad."
Fertig's father, "Chief" Henry Fertig, was the longtime head of the Huntington Park,
California police department in L.A. County, and a tremendous USC booster.
"He's being driven around the stadium in this cart, and the whole time my dad's pouring
whisky into a cup and Duke's drinkin' out of it," continued Fertig. "Now, the Texas fans,
they see The Duke, and he's wearin' this cowboy hat, and most of 'em don't know he's a
USC football player. Duke's givin' 'em the hook 'em horns sign with his fingers, and the
Longhorn fans are cheering.
" 'Duke's a Texas fan,' their sayin'.
"All the time, Duke's sayin' to my old man, 'F--k the 'horns.' "
All things considered, Duke Wayne cut a swath across the entertainment industry like
very few others. In terms of longevity and impact, perhaps only Clint Eastwood has
played a greater all-around role in show biz.
USC continues to be integral to the film industry to this day. The USC marching band
actually bills itself "Hollywood's band." They have appeared in numerous movies and
even helped cut a gold record, Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk". USC athletes have made a
disproportionately large number of careers in the media.
"Going to school in L.A. is a big advantage," explained former USC football coach John
Robinson. "It's a big difference being interviewed by major media there than it is to say,
'yes, sir,' or 'no, sir' to a local sportscaster in Alabama."
Many major movers and shakers in Tinseltown are part of the "Trojan Family." John
Wayne would be proud.




GLORY DAYS

StreetZebra, 1999



They'llll pass you by..
They' pass you by



IIn tthe wiink off a young giirll''s eye!! Justt ask Tom McGarviin,, Biilll Sharman,, Allex
  n he w nk o a young g r s eye Jus ask Tom McGarv n B Sharman A ex
Hannum,, or Tex Wiintter.. IItt seems lliike iitt was onlly 50--pllus years ago when tthese guys were
 Hannum or Tex W n er seems ke was on y 50 p us years ago when hese guys were
baskettballll sttars att tthe Uniiversiitty off Soutthern Calliifforniia.. Thatt''s riightt,, USC.. Beffore John
baske ba s ars a he Un vers y o Sou hern Ca orn a Tha s r gh USC Be ore John
Wooden tturned Paulley Paviilliion iintto Hoops Mecca,, SC was a nattiionall power on tthe
Wooden urned Pau ey Pav on n o Hoops Mecca SC was a na ona power on he
hardwood!!
hardwood
        "The tteams II pllayed on,," says Hallll off Famer Biilll Sharman ((1947--50)),, "produced
        "The eams p ayed on " says Ha o Famer B Sharman 1947 50 "produced

19 NBA champiionshiip riings bettween mysellff,, Hannum and Wiintter.. Pllus,, we had Bob
19 NBA champ onsh p r ngs be ween myse Hannum and W n er P us we had Bob

Klloppenberg,, who coached iin tthe pros.."
K oppenberg who coached n he pros "

The onlly otther colllege tthatt may have produced as many NBA ttiittlles woulld be tthe 1955
 The on y o her co ege ha may have produced as many NBA es wou d be he 1955
San Franciisco Dons off Biillll Russelll and K..C.. Jones.. Consiideriing Paull Westtphall''s success
 San Franc sco Dons o B Russe and K C Jones Cons der ng Pau Wes pha s success
iin Phoeniix and Seatttlle,, S..C.. can llay cllaiim tto be tthe ttop spawniing ground off coaches tthiis
  n Phoen x and Sea e S C can ay c a m o be he op spawn ng ground o coaches h s
siide off Dean Smiitth..
 s de o Dean Sm h
IIn tthe 1930s,, McGarviin sttarred allong wiitth Gaiill Goodriich''s ffatther att USC.. The game was
  n he 1930s McGarv n s arred a ong w h Ga Goodr ch s a her a USC The game was
much diiffferentt tthen,, nott tthe run''n''gun "showttiime" specttaclle
 much d eren hen no he run n gun "show me" spec ac e
tthatt iitt iis ttoday..
  ha          s oday

         "They had netts around tthe courtt,," says fformer Eastt Coastt baskettballll wriitter Jerry
         "They had ne s around he cour " says ormer Eas Coas baske ba wr er Jerry

Cowlle,, "and pllayers woulld bounce ballls offf tthem,, pllayiing tthe rebound.."
Cow e "and p ayers wou d bounce ba s o hem p ay ng he rebound "

Thatt iis why tthey were known as cagers,, butt outt Westt,, tthe "modern" game was beiing
 Tha s why hey were known as cagers bu ou Wes he "modern" game was be ng
develloped.. Sttanfford''s Hank Luiisettttii become baskettballl''s ffiirstt supersttar,, where llegend has
 deve oped S an ord s Hank Lu se become baske ba s rs supers ar where egend has
iitt tthatt he iinventted tthe jjump shott.. Sttanfford won
       ha he nven ed he ump sho S an ord won
tthe nattiionall champiionshiip iin 1942..
   he na ona champ onsh p n 1942

         "Hank Luiisettttii,, as ffar as II''m concerned,," opiines McGarviin,, who pllayed wiitth
         "Hank Lu se as ar as m concerned " op nes McGarv n who p ayed w h

Jackiie Robiinson att Pasadena''s Muiir Hiigh "was tthe bestt pllayer II ever saw duriing tthose
Jack e Rob nson a Pasadena s Mu r H gh "was he bes p ayer ever saw dur ng hose

years,, butt sayiing he iinventted tthe jjump shott iis a miisnomer.. Guys'' were usiing jjump shotts
years bu say ng he nven ed he ump sho s a m snomer Guys were us ng ump sho s

allready.. He diid use one--handed shotts more tthan anybody..
a ready He d d use one handed sho s more han anybody

"We pllayed att tthe Ollympiic Audiittoriium,, tthe Shriine,, tthe Pan--Paciiffiic,, anywhere we coulld
 "We p ayed a he O ymp c Aud or um he Shr ne he Pan Pac c anywhere we cou d
ffiind.. II was tthe capttaiin off tthe Trojjan tteam tthatt wentt tto tthe Fiinall Four and llostt tto Phog
    nd was he cap a n o he Tro an eam ha wen o he F na Four and os o Phog
Alllen and Kansas by one poiintt iin Kansas Ciitty.. Everybody ffoulled outt because tthe reffs''
 A en and Kansas by one po n n Kansas C y Everybody ou ed ou because he re s
were Miidwestt homers,, butt we were as good as anybody.."
 were M dwes homers bu we were as good as anybody "
Hamiilltton Hiigh''s Hannum was a 6--7 enfforcer who pllayed wiitth Sharman and Wiintter iin
 Ham on H gh s Hannum was a 6 7 en orcer who p ayed w h Sharman and W n er n
1946--47.. Hannum''s NBA career llastted unttiill 1957.. He wentt on tto one off tthe mostt
 1946 47 Hannum s NBA career as ed un 1957 He wen on o one o he mos
successffull coachiing careers off allll ttiime.. Hannum lled Wiilltt Chamberllaiin and tthe 1967
 success u coach ng careers o a me Hannum ed W Chamber a n and he 1967
Phiilladellphiia 76ers tto tthe bestt record iin NBA hiisttory ((68--14,, siince broken by Sharman''s
 Ph ade ph a 76ers o he bes record n NBA h s ory 68 14 s nce broken by Sharman s
''72 Lakers and tthe Phiill Jackson//Wiintter Bulllls off 1996)).. IIn 1969 he coached Riick Barry
   72 Lakers and he Ph Jackson W n er Bu s o 1996 n 1969 he coached R ck Barry
and tthe ABA''s Oaklland Oaks'' tto tthatt lleague''s bestt--ever record ((60--18)).. He was ellectted tto
 and he ABA s Oak and Oaks o ha eague s bes ever record 60 18 He was e ec ed o
tthe Hallll off Fame iin 1998..
   he Ha o Fame n 1998
The Trriianglle Offffense
The T ang e O ense
The evolluttiion off tthe ttriianglle offfense has an allmostt Biiblliicall qualliitty tto iitt.. Doc Meanwelll
The evo u on o he r ang e o ense has an a mos B b ca qua y o Doc Meanwe

creatted iitt ((iin siix days,, resttiing on Sunday?)).. Hiis versiion begatt Sam Barry,, who begatt
crea ed           n s x days res ng on Sunday? H s vers on bega Sam Barry who bega

Wiintter,, who begatt Jackson.. Many have been diisciiplles.. Wiintter probablly has done more tto
W n er who bega Jackson Many have been d sc p es W n er probab y has done more o

reffiine iitt tthan any coach..
re ne han any coach

         "Barry piicked iitt up ffrom Doc Meanwelll when he was a graduatte sttudentt att
         "Barry p cked up rom Doc Meanwe when he was a gradua e s uden a

Wiisconsiin,," recalllls Wiintter,, who came tto SC ffrom Hunttiingtton Park and Comptton
W scons n " reca s W n er who came o SC rom Hun ng on Park and Comp on

Collllege,, and has coached ffor 53 years ((iinclludiing alll siix off Miichaell Jordan''s
Co ege and has coached or 53 years nc ud ng a s x o M chae Jordan s

champiionshiip tteams)).. "IIniittiiallly iitt was callled tthe ``centter opposiitte..'' IItt was popullariized on
champ onsh p eams " n a y was ca ed he cen er oppos e                                         was popu ar zed on

tthe Westt Coastt by Jiimmy Needlles,, and develloped ffurtther by ttwo Loyolla pllayers,, Pette
  he Wes Coas by J mmy Need es and deve oped ur her by wo Loyo a p ayers Pe e

Newell and Phiill Woollpertt..
Newe and Ph Woo per

"IItt''s based on ``reverse acttiion,,'' and you don''tt wantt pllayers wiitth greatt iindiiviiduall skiillls
 " s based on reverse ac on and you don wan p ayers w h grea nd v dua sk s
who don''tt uttiilliize tthe tteam game.. Thatt''s whatt we''re ttryiing tto tteach Kobe Bryantt.. IItt ttook
 who don u ze he eam game Tha s wha we re ry ng o each Kobe Bryan                                         ook
Miichaell years tto llearn tto pllay iin tthe systtem.. II ttry tto tteach tthem and llett tthem know whatt''s
 M chae years o earn o p ay n he sys em ry o each hem and e hem know wha s
expectted;; balll conttroll and pllayer movementt.. Shaq O''Neall iis so physiicallly domiinantt tthatt
 expec ed ba con ro and p ayer movemen Shaq O Nea s so phys ca y dom nan ha
somettiimes we gett outt off tthe systtem and jjustt relly on hiim.. Some bettter--skiillled atthllettes are
 some mes we ge ou o he sys em and us re y on h m Some be er sk ed a h e es are
lless effffecttiive iin tthe ttriianglle.."
  ess e ec ve n he r ang e "
Wiintter recallls tthe pre--Wooden UCLA riivallry..
 W n er reca s he pre Wooden UCLA r va ry
"They had a greatt pllayer named Don Barksdalle,," he says.. "II recogniized riightt
 "They had a grea p ayer named Don Barksda e " he says " recogn zed r gh
offff tthatt Sharman was a greatt pllayer.. We had tthe ``buddy systtem,,'' where a
 o ha Sharman was a grea p ayer We had he buddy sys em where a

younger pllayer <Sharman> woulld be paiired wiitth a vetteran <Wiintter>.. Hannum
younger p ayer <Sharman> wou d be pa red w h a ve eran <W n er> Hannum
was a lleader and an enfforcer.."
was a eader and an en orcer "
        "II was an Allll--Ameriican my llastt ttwo years,," says Sharman,, who came tto USC
         " was an A Amer can my as wo years " says Sharman who came o USC

ffrom Portterviilllle afftter a year att Narbonne.. "We ffiiniished second my llastt tthree years,, butt
  rom Por erv e a er a year a Narbonne "We n shed second my as hree years bu

beatt U..C..L..A.. when John Wooden was tthe coach.. II was very iimpressed by Wooden
bea U C L A when John Wooden was he coach was very mpressed by Wooden

iimmediiattelly.. He ttaughtt a ffastt--break sttylle tthatt was a biig iinfflluence on my coachiing career..
  mmed a e y He augh a as break s y e ha was a b g n uence on my coach ng career

II won ffour ttiittlles as a pllayer wiitth Bostton,, siix as a coach,, g..m.. and tteam presiidentt iin tthe
   won our es as a p ayer w h Bos on s x as a coach g m and eam pres den n he

NBA..
NBA

"Jess Hiillll offfered me tthe head coachiing posiittiion att SC iin tthe 1960s,," Sharman recallls,,
"Jess H o ered me he head coach ng pos on a SC n he 1960s " Sharman reca s
"butt tthe llack off an on--campus arena----a pllace where tthe sttudentts can gett behiind you,, tthe
 "bu he ack o an on campus arena a p ace where he s uden s can ge beh nd you he
tteam can practtiice----tthatt pllus II had pro offffers,, so II tturned iitt down.."
  eam can prac ce ha p us had pro o ers so urned down "
Forrestt Twogood ttook over,, and guiided tthe Ken Fllower tteams'' tto 21--6 and 17--5 marks iin
 Forres Twogood ook over and gu ded he Ken F ower eams o 21 6 and 17 5 marks n
tthe earlly 1950s.. The Sportts Arena was buiilltt iin 1959,, and whiille iitt was consiidered a greatt
  he ear y 1950s The Spor s Arena was bu n 1959 and wh e was cons dered a grea
ffaciilliitty att tthe ttiime,, Paulley overshadowed iitt.. The program has been miired iin mediiocriitty
  ac y a he me Pau ey overshadowed The program has been m red n med ocr y
ffor years.. Now,, a reall possiibiilliitty exiistts iin whiich Henry Biibby''s squad can creatte tthe
  or years Now a rea poss b y ex s s n wh ch Henry B bby s squad can crea e he
enviironmentt iin whiich ttheiir on--campus arena llaunches an era off greattness ffor Trojjan
 env ronmen n wh ch he r on campus arena aunches an era o grea ness or Tro an
baskettballll..
 baske ba



                                                        The
                                                        The

                                                     FIFTIES
                                                     FIFTIES


                                               ED DEMIRJIAN
                                               ED DEMIRJIAN

Quartterback
Quar erback
1950
1950

Lett me ttelll a sttorry aboutt tthe kiind off guy Pette Carrrrolll iis.. II was hosttiing an Arrmeniian shiish
Le me e a s o y abou he k nd o guy Pe e Ca o s was hos ng an A men an sh sh

kabob llunch att my home iin Rancho Pallos Verrdes.. IItt was a Frriiday afftterrnoon.. II wentt overr
kabob unch a my home n Rancho Pa os Ve des was a F day a e noon wen ove

tto Pette's house.. He's a neiighborr off miine.. II knocked on tthe doorr,, butt nobody was home.. II
  o Pe e's house He's a ne ghbo o m ne knocked on he doo bu nobody was home

tthoughtt,, who knows,, maybe he's cutt outt off worrk earrlly ttoday.. II llefftt hiim a notte iinviittiing
  hough who knows maybe he's cu ou o wo k ea y oday e h m a no e nv ng

hiim tto tthe llunch.. Wellll,, on tthe ffolllowiing Monday II gott a message ffrrom hiim tthankiing me
h m o he unch We on he o ow ng Monday go a message om h m hank ng me

fforr iinviittiing hiim,, butt he coulldn'tt make iitt.. Then hiis secrrettarry ffollllows up tto conffiirrm II gott
  o nv ng h m bu he cou dn' make Then h s sec e a y o ows up o con m go

tthe message..
  he message

            II pllayed wiitth Jiim Searrs.. He was a deffensiive back.. II llettterred iin 1950 and pllayed iin
               p ayed w h J m Sea s He was a de ens ve back e e ed n 1950 and p ayed n
tthe prrogrram iin 1951 and 1953.. II gott outt off schooll iin 1953.. Frrank Giifffforrd was a seniiorr iin
  he p og am n 1951 and 1953 go ou o schoo n 1953 F ank G o d was a sen o n
'51.. II pllayed fforr Jeffff Crravatth iin 1950.. Lett me ttelll you,, USC had tthe worrstt coachiing when
 '51 p ayed o Je C ava h n 1950 Le me e you USC had he wo s coach ng when
II was ttherre.. Therre werre some off tthe Jiim Harrdy guys who knew ffoottballl,, butt we had bad
   was he e The e we e some o he J m Ha dy guys who knew oo ba bu we had bad
coaches.. Jess Hiilll was nott a good coach.. We had a chance tto gett Tay Brrown,, who'd pllay
 coaches Jess H was no a good coach We had a chance o ge Tay B own who'd p ay
fforr Howarrd Jones's Thunderriing Herrd.. He was overr att Comptton Juniiorr Colllege,, whiich att
  o Howa d Jones's Thunde ng He d He was ove a Comp on Jun o Co ege wh ch a
tthatt ttiime was lliike tthe Nottrre Dame off jjuniiorr collleges,, butt tthey diidn'tt hiirre hiim..
  ha me was ke he No e Dame o un o co eges bu hey d dn' h e h m
            We had a chance att Paull Brrown off tthe Cllevelland Brrowns.. He had a son wiitth
             We had a chance a Pau B own o he C eve and B owns He had a son w h

astthma and wantted tto come outt herre and lliive iin tthe warrm weattherr nearr tthe ocean.. USC
as hma and wan ed o come ou he e and ve n he wa m wea he nea he ocean USC
had a polliicy off onlly hiirriing allums,, alltthough Howarrd Jones was nott an SC grrad.. We diidn'tt
had a po cy o on y h ng a ums a hough Howa d Jones was no an SC g ad We d dn'

gett hiim.. Hiilll diidn'tt know ffoottballll.. He diidn'tt rrellatte tto guys and tthey llacked rrespectt fforr
ge h m H d dn' know oo ba He d dn' e a e o guys and hey acked espec o

hiim.. Maybe he was ttoo much off a genttlleman.. He had an elliittiistt viiew off tthiings..
h m Maybe he was oo much o a gen eman He had an e s v ew o h ngs

Giifffforrd was smarrtt.. Thatt was tthe ffiirrstt tthiing II saw aboutt hiim.. He was exacttlly whatt you
 G o d was sma Tha was he s h ng saw abou h m He was exac y wha you
wantted -- 6--1,, 195,, mattiinee iidoll -- tto rreprresentt tthe Uniiverrsiitty.. He was a verry good--llookiing
 wan ed 6 1 195 ma nee do o ep esen he Un ve s y He was a ve y good ook ng
guy and rreprresentted whatt an Alll--Amerriican boy nextt doorr woulld be.. He rrealllly pllayed a
 guy and ep esen ed wha an A Ame can boy nex doo wou d be He ea y p ayed a
parrtt iin hiis rreputtattiion.. Peoplle wantted tto be arround a guy lliike tthatt.. Peoplle who have good
 pa n h s epu a on Peop e wan ed o be a ound a guy ke ha Peop e who have good
llooks arre worrtth $100 morre iin busiiness.. He hiitt harrd butt coulld nott pass.. He was a natturrall
  ooks a e wo h $100 mo e n bus ness He h ha d bu cou d no pass He was a na u a
butt no passerr.. He jjustt tthrrew tthe ballll..
 bu no passe He us h ew he ba
IIn 1951 att Berrkelley,, my memorriies arre nott good aboutt iindiiviiduall games,, butt Call was
  n 1951 a Be ke ey my memo es a e no good abou nd v dua games bu Ca was
unbeatten and a rreall nattiionall jjuggerrnautt.. Giifffferr rriilled up tthe tteam att tthe hallff and pllayed
 unbea en and a ea na ona ugge nau G e ed up he eam a he ha and p ayed
grreatt iin tthe second hallff,, and we won tthatt game..
 g ea n he second ha and we won ha game
Jiim Psallttiis was a tteammatte off miine.. He was a deffensiive hallffback and norrmallly on tthe
 J m Psa s was a eamma e o m ne He was a de ens ve ha back and no ma y on he
ottherr end off tthe ffiielld.. We werre on tthe same tteam and had a ffew llaughs.. Sam "tthe Toe"
 o he end o he e d We we e on he same eam and had a ew aughs Sam " he Toe"
Tsagallakiis was a kiickerr.. We rrattherr rresentted orr tthoughtt iitt was unusuall tthatt a guy woulld
 Tsaga ak s was a k cke We a he esen ed o hough was unusua ha a guy wou d
jjustt be a kiickerr.. He was nott a biig guy butt he beatt Sttanfforrd wiitth a ffiielld goall iin tthe llastt
  us be a k cke He was no a b g guy bu he bea S an o d w h a e d goa n he as
couplle miinuttes.. II don'tt even tthiink he was on schollarrshiip.. Sam Balltterr was a sporrtts
 coup e m nu es don' even h nk he was on scho a sh p Sam Ba e was a spo s
announcerr.. One day he came by ttrraiiniing ttablle tto iintterrviiew hiim,, and Sam was nott even on
 announce One day he came by a n ng ab e o n e v ew h m and Sam was no even on
tthe ttrraiiniing ttablle tthen.. He was llatterr awarrded a schollarrshiip,, prrobablly when iitt was
  he a n ng ab e hen He was a e awa ded a scho a sh p p obab y when was
rrevealled he was nott on one..
  evea ed he was no on one
We beatt Wiisconsiin iin tthe 1953 Rose Bowll,, 7--0.. Jiim Searrs was tthe ffiirrstt sttrriing rrunniing
 We bea W scons n n he 1953 Rose Bow 7 0 J m Sea s was he s s ng unn ng
back butt he was iinjjurred and Rudy Bukiich came iin tto pllay quarrtterrback.. He was nott tthe
 back bu he was n u ed and Rudy Buk ch came n o p ay qua e back He was no he
mostt popullarr guy on tthe tteam.. He pllayed fforr tthe Bearrs llatterr.. He was an outtspoken guy
 mos popu a guy on he eam He p ayed o he Bea s a e He was an ou spoken guy
who voiiced hiis opiiniion.. II rrespectted tthatt.. He tthrrew tthe wiinniing ttouchdown pass tto All
 who vo ced h s op n on espec ed ha He h ew he w nn ng ouchdown pass o A
Carrmiichaell..
 Ca m chae
Whatt's rreallly morre surrprriisiing tto me tthan how good Rudy was iin tthe Rose Bowll was how
 Wha 's ea y mo e su p s ng o me han how good Rudy was n he Rose Bow was how
good Giifffforrd was when we wentt back tto beatt Arrmy att Yankee Sttadiium.. He had a good
 good G o d was when we wen back o bea A my a Yankee S ad um He had a good
game.. The Marra ffamiilly tthatt owned tthe Giiantts was att tthatt game,, and iitt was tthe
 game The Ma a am y ha owned he G an s was a ha game and was he
perrfforrmance rresponsiiblle fforr Giifffferr beiing sellectted hiigh iin tthe prro drrafftt.. To gett back tto tthe
 pe o mance espons b e o G e be ng se ec ed h gh n he p o d a To ge back o he
Rose Bowll,, iiff Rudy had nott tthrrown tthatt TD pass tto Carrmiichaell,, whiich made alll tthe
 Rose Bow               Rudy had no h own ha TD pass o Ca m chae wh ch made a he
paperrs tthe nextt day,, he miightt nott have had a chance tto pllay prro ffoottballll eiittherr..
 pape s he nex day he m gh no have had a chance o p ay p o oo ba e he
Carrmiichaell's iin a book calllled 106 Yards.. He's on tthe coverr and iitt giives a llott off
 Ca m chae 's n a book ca ed 106 Yards He's on he cove and g ves a o o
iinfforrmattiion..
  n o ma on
 I remember Marv Goux. We had a scrimmage and we insert this guy. He's not big and
 they stick him in unannounced. This guy starts to stick and plug holes. We all recognized
 immediately he was a heck of a tackler. I knew what he was doing right. After that they
 had plans for him.
 What It Means to Be a Trojan? The school means everything to me; the people you meet,
 the friendships you have for the rest of your life. Once a Trojans, always a Trojan. I just
 dropped my granddaughter off at school yesterday, she's starting at USC. It's about
 loyalty. It’s a family. I go to 80 percent of the SC alumni functions.
II jjustt gott a lletttterr ffrrom Tom Niickolloffff.. One off ourr grroups,, iin addiittiion tto tthe Trrojjan cllub,,
     us go a e e om Tom N cko o One o ou g oups n add on o he T o an c ub
Carrdiinall and Golld,, tthiis grroup and tthatt grroup,, iis tthe 1950s guys.. Some guys arre iin ttheiirr
 Ca d na and Go d h s g oup and ha g oup s he 1950s guys Some guys a e n he
70s orr 80s.. We meett iin Cattalliina,, iin San Diiego.. We have peoplle iin tthe valllley.. We gett
 70s o 80s We mee n Ca a na n San D ego We have peop e n he va ey We ge
ttogettherr fforr llunch ttwiice a yearr.. We meett att Phiill Trraiinii's and Papadakiis Taverrna.. Phiill
   oge he o unch w ce a yea We mee a Ph T a n 's and Papadak s Tave na Ph
Trraiinii's a lliittttlle guy butt welll buiilltt.. II tthiink he was a weiightt lliifftterr and has a brrottherr whose a
 T a n 's a             e guy bu we bu                   h nk he was a we gh             e and has a b o he whose a
ttrraiinerr iin San Pedrro.. They have good seaffood att hiis pllace iin Long Beach..
    a ne n San Ped o They have good sea ood a h s p ace n Long Beach
    m a membe o he A men an commun y t 's a sma pa o c am y o en ed g oup
II''m a memberr off tthe Arrmeniian communiitty.. IIt's a smallll,, pattrriiottiic,, ffamiilly--orriientted grroup
tthatt ttends tto rrelliigiious.. Therre's an Arrmeniian prresence att USC jjustt lliike tthe Grreek
   ha ends o e g ous The e's an A men an p esence a USC us ke he G eek
prresence,, butt iitt's smallll,, 15 orr 18 guys.. Pette Carrrrollll's been tto tthatt grroup.. We meett once a
 p esence bu 's sma 15 o 18 guys Pe e Ca o 's been o ha g oup We mee once a
montth att tthe Arrmeniian iinsttiittutte.. They'rre entthusiiasttiic.. We have tthese conspiicuous names
 mon h a he A men an ns u e They' e en hus as c We have hese consp cuous names
tthatt end iin iian.. We'rre ffamiilly peoplle,, enttrreprreneurrs and successffull.. Adollff Hiittllerr was once
   ha end n an We' e am y peop e en ep eneu s and success u Ado H e was once
asked whettherr he woulld be helld accounttablle fforr kiillliing alll tthe Jews,, and he saiid tthe
 asked whe he he wou d be he d accoun ab e o k ng a he Jews and he sa d he
worrlld saiid notthiing when Turrkey kiillled a miillliion orr morre Arrmeniians iin Worrlld Warr II..
 wo d sa d no h ng when Tu key k ed a m on o mo e A men ans n Wo d Wa
Frrance neverr prrottestted.. Butt overr ttiime Amerriica came tto be tthe nattiion we came tto,, iitt was
 F ance neve p o es ed Bu ove me Ame ca came o be he na on we came o was
ourr Prromiised Land,, and iitt was iin Amerriica wherre tthe ttrrutth aboutt tthe Arrmeniian genociide
 ou P om sed Land and was n Ame ca whe e he u h abou he A men an genoc de
became known tto tthe worrlld..
 became known o he wo d
 Armenia became the first nation to accept Christianity in 304 A.D. It's a Christian nation
 surrounded throughout its history by Muslims, Communists, and Nazis, but its survived.


Ed Demirjian played for both Jeff Cravath and Jess Hill. He was a teammate of

Frank Gifford and was in the program when USC beat Wisconsin in the 1953 Rose

Bowl.



HE WAS FLOWER OF SF SPORTS PAST

San Francisco Examiner, 2001



Respect for ones' elders. This is an important quality to have, because those who came
before us can teach us through experience and acquired knowledge.
       San Francisco has plenty of athletic elder statesmen, and Ken Flower is one of

them. Ken has punched a lot of tickets and has plenty of stories to tell. Recently named to

Lowell High School's First Annual Hall of Fame, Flower is a part of City tradition.

He was the California State (basketball) Player of the Year in 1949 and an All-American
at Southern Cal. Also a Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame inductee, Flower worked in the
San Francisco 49ers marketing department, and in local radio, for many years.
There is nobody of note in the NoCal he has not seen or known.
Take Hank Luisetti of Galileo, considered the greatest basketball player in the world
when he was credited with "inventing" the one-hand set shot as a star at Stanford in the
late 1930s.
"Jim Pollard was the first or one of the first jump shooters," says Flower, "but Luisetti
perfected the shot. He was a big influence on me."
His next big influence was Ben Neff, a "father figure to me," who was Lowell's legendary
basketball coach for many years before, during and after World War II.
"I grew up in the Haight-Ashbury District," recalls Flower. "I could have gone to Lowell
or Poly, but Nehf recruited me in the seventh and eighth grades. He was a dynamic force
in my life, and in others.
"Benny was very organized. He'd diagram plays using pennies. He also coached at St.
Mary's. We'd practice in the seventh period, and at five he'd drive to Moraga for an
evening practice, then we'd practice together on Saturdays. He was remarkable."
Flower thought he would go to Stanford.
"In 1949 we beat the Cal and Stanford frosh," he says. "I went to Menlo JC on my way to
Stanford, but then SC started recruiting me. I planned a career in radio and figured L.A.
was the place to be for that, so SC appealed to me.
"Sam Barry was the coach when I got there. He taught Tex Winter the triangle offense,
and was a leading advocate in eliminating the center jump after each shot. I then played
for Forest Twogood from 1951 to '53. We beat John Wooden's UCLA teams, Phog Allen's
Kansas team, Hank Iba's Oklahoma A&I team, and Duke Groat's Duke squad.
"Wooden was not unbeatable. He's obviously a fine coach, and he took advantage of a
very hot gym they played in, which we called the `B.O. Barn.' Her was a constant bench
jockey, but his team's were not yet dominant.”
Flower also revealed a potential scandal that was averted. Gamblers approached him
about throwing the UCLA game for $1500. This was around the time of the Long Island
and NYU scandals back East. Flower played along, and then went to Twogood, who
called in the LAPD. Eventually, the man was convicted.
"Luckily, he didn’t have Mob connections," says Flower, "but he did have a
manslaughter conviction, and the guy spent a year in jail.
Flower knew Phil Woolpert and Pete Newell when they were at USF, and got to know
Newell quite well.
“He had a dynamic coaching style,” he says. “Newell's 1949 USF team won the NIT.
        "After college I played AAU ball, and we faced the Harlem Globetrotters. After

basketball I came to San Francisco and worked for CBS, then moved to New York and

worked for ABC Sports and the NFL. This was during the time that Monday Night

Football got started, so it was very exciting to be in that medium during this period. I

knew Pete Rozelle very well."

Flower met Rozelle when Flower went to work for the NFL. They first met when Rozelle
was the USF sports information director. He originally hired Pete, who had gone to USF,
to run the sales and marketing division.
       He came back to the 49ers in 1976, working on community affairs and
negotiations regarding marketing and major media placement until 1986. Flower worked

closely with some of the game’s all-time greats.

"Bill Walsh is just a remarkable, great coach, a dynamic leader and innovator in all
aspects of the game,” says Flower. “He had a real hands-on approach to his job.
"Joe Montana possessed an indescribable genius for the game, despite his physical
limitations. He had a quiet way about him, displayed zero fear to his teammates, and
there was nobody better."




A TALE OF TWO PITCHERS

StreetZebra, 2000



The story of Bill Bordley and Bruce Gardner has all the key elements of Shakespearean

tragedy. Gardner became a case study in melancholia, ending in suicide. In Bordley's

case, all his negative energy was turned into something positive, and today he is with the

Secret Service.



Both were left-handed All-American pitchers at the University of Southern California,
separated by 17 years. Both played for legendary Trojan baseball coach Rod Dedeaux on
national championship teams. Both men were considered "can't miss" professional
prospects, and both had those careers destroyed almost before they started by awful arm
injuries. Both men were damaged goods before their collegiate careers were over.
        What they did with their lives after baseball defined the fundamental differences

between the two.

Gardner was a phenomenal talent at Fairfax High School in Los Angeles. By his senior
year, 1956, he was considered one of the top pitching prospects in the nation. He threw
extremely hard, had great command of his stuff, and was a bulldog competitor. The pros
came calling, and Gardner was all for signing. Those were the days, before the Major
League draft, when teams would participate in bidding wars for top high school players.
Although it does not seem like a lot of money by today's standards, players of Gardner's
stature could demand and get $100,000 bonuses. That was more than big leaguers like
Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle were paid in salary, because the "reserve clause" was still
in force, thus depriving them of free agency.
        Gardner, being an L.A. kid, was no less prone to the Trojan mystique than

anybody else, but he faced a tug of war with his emotions, for reasons that most young

athletes might not relate to. Gardner was Jewish. He had been raised by his single

mother in modest surroundings. His mom was convinced that the path to success in

America was through education, and she dreamt that her son would make a good lawyer

or doctor. She was not enamored with the successes of Joe DiMaggio or Ted Williams,

and with very, very few exceptions, Jews were virtually non-existent in sports. The idea

that Bruce would be a successful professional athlete was not real to her; it held no

promise. She knew little if anything about Bruce's athletic prowess. That her son could

throw a 90-mile an hour fastball was an oblique concept. That people cheered for him

and that men with stopwatches showed up to see him pitch was not something she could

compare anything to. There was no value to such things. Being a doctor, now that was

something of value!

         Allong wiitth tthe pro scoutts came Dedeaux,, a gregariious,, wiisecrackiing guy who
         A ong w h he pro scou s came Dedeaux a gregar ous w secrack ng guy who

blleds cardiinall and golld.. USC was tthe one schooll tthatt coulld enttiice a hott prospectt away
b eds card na and go d USC was he one schoo ha cou d en ce a ho prospec away

ffrom bonus riiches.. They had won tthe nattiionall champiionshiip allready,, and iiff you were a
  rom bonus r ches They had won he na ona champ onsh p a ready and you were a

greatt hiigh schooll baseballl pllayer who wantted a collllege educattiion,, your tthree bestt
grea h gh schoo baseba p ayer who wan ed a co ege educa on your hree bes

choiices were USC,, Soutthern Call,, or Soutthern Calliifforniia!!
cho ces were USC Sou hern Ca or Sou hern Ca orn a

Dedeaux was a mastter recruiitter.. He knew how tto gett iintto a pllayer''s miind.. The bestt way
 Dedeaux was a mas er recru er He knew how o ge n o a p ayer s m nd The bes way
tto do tthatt was tto gett iintto ttheiir home,, and iin tthiis case he knew tthatt Gardner was basiicalllly
   o do ha was o ge n o he r home and n h s case he knew ha Gardner was bas ca y
a mama''s boy who yearned tto pllease hiis motther.. He knew tthatt Gardner ffelltt guiilltty aboutt
 a mama s boy who yearned o p ease h s mo her He knew ha Gardner e gu y abou
lletttiing hiis mom down,, and he knew how tto maniipullatte tthatt guiilltt.. Dedeaux spentt more
   e ng h s mom down and he knew how o man pu a e ha gu Dedeaux spen more
ttiime wiitth Gardner''s motther tthan he diid wiitth Gardner.. He solld her on tthe vallue off a USC
    me w h Gardner s mo her han he d d w h Gardner He so d her on he va ue o a USC
schollarshiip,, whiich over ffour years,, iiff one ffacttored iin ttuiittiion,, books and housiing,,
 scho arsh p wh ch over our years one ac ored n u on books and hous ng
mattched tthe siix--ffiigure enttiicementts off Majjor League tteams..
 ma ched he s x gure en cemen s o Ma or League eams
           Bruce lliiked tthe iidea off pllayiing ffor Dedeaux,, allriightt,, butt he had a shy siide tto hiim,,
            Bruce ked he dea o p ay ng or Dedeaux a r gh bu he had a shy s de o h m
and was a lliitttlle sellff--consciious aboutt tthe prospectt off beiing Jewiish att a riich,, ffratt--sociietty
and was a          e se consc ous abou he prospec o be ng Jew sh a a r ch ra soc e y

schooll lliike SC.. Thiis was sttiilll tthe Genttlleman's Agrreementt 1950s.. Mom woulld have nott off
schoo ke SC Th s was s                   he Gen eman's Ag eemen 1950s Mom wou d have no o

iitt.. Mr.. Dedeaux iis a niice man wiitthoutt an anttii--Semiittiic bone iin hiis body,, she ttolld hiim.. He
       Mr Dedeaux s a n ce man w hou an an Sem c bone n h s body she o d h m He

woulld wattch outt ffor hiim.. The campus was onlly 15 miinuttes ffrom ttheiir house,, he woulld
wou d wa ch ou or h m The campus was on y 15 m nu es rom he r house he wou d

never have tto be homesiick.. He woulld meett a niice giirll tthere,, he woulld make conttactts wiitth
never have o be homes ck He wou d mee a n ce g r here he wou d make con ac s w h

iimporttantt peoplle who coulld iinfflluence hiis lliiffe.. USC was tthe Ameriican Dream..
  mpor an peop e who cou d n uence h s e USC was he Amer can Dream

Bruce wanted to sign, but he lost. He could never win that kind of battle with his mom, he
was like the Anthony Harvey character in The Manchurian Candidate, and Dedeaux had
proven to be her insurmountable ally. He entered the University in the fall of 1956. He
never had a chance.
       Att USC,, Gardner was everytthiing he was supposed tto be,, a ffllame--tthrowiing
        A USC Gardner was every h ng he was supposed o be a ame hrow ng

allll--everytthiing who garnered alll tthe awards tthere were tto wiin.. He pllayed wiitth otther sttars
a every h ng who garnered a he awards here were o w n He p ayed w h o her s ars

lliike Ron Faiirlly,, who woulld be a sttar wiitth tthe Dodgers.. He hellped Troy tto viicttory iin tthe
    ke Ron Fa r y who wou d be a s ar w h he Dodgers He he ped Troy o v c ory n he

1958 Collllege Worlld Seriies,, and spearheaded tthe ''59 tteam whiich wentt 24--4--1 butt was
1958 Co ege Wor d Ser es and spearheaded he 59 eam wh ch wen 24 4 1 bu was

deniied anotther nattiionall ttiittlle because tthey were on NCAA probattiion.. IIn 1960,, he won hiis
den ed ano her na ona                e because hey were on NCAA proba on n 1960 he won h s

40tth game,, a record tthatt sttood att SC unttiill Randy Fllores won 42 ((1994--97)),, and was
40 h game a record ha s ood a SC un Randy F ores won 42 1994 97 and was

named tthe ttop pllayer iin colllege baseballl.. He allso hurtt hiis arm..
named he op p ayer n co ege baseba He a so hur h s arm



Gardner''s arm probllems seemed miinor att ffiirstt,, butt tthe iirriittattiion caused hiim tto llose speed
Gardner s arm prob ems seemed m nor a rs bu he rr a on caused h m o ose speed
on hiis ffasttballl.. Beiing a conttroll arttiistt wiitth good breakiing sttuffff,, anyway,, he conttiinued tto
on h s as ba Be ng a con ro ar s w h good break ng s u anyway he con nued o
be successffull.. He knew how tto piittch,, and how tto wiin.. The scoutts,, however,, saw
be success u He knew how o p ch and how o w n The scou s however saw
sometthiing.. Radar guns were nott iinventted yett,, butt tthese guys had been wattchiing hiim ffour
some h ng Radar guns were no nven ed ye bu hese guys had been wa ch ng h m our
or ffiive years now.. Gardner had tthrown a tton off iinniings att Troy and now,, iin hiis earlly 20s,,
or ve years now Gardner had hrown a on o nn ngs a Troy and now n h s ear y 20s
he was nott tthe ffresh new phenom tthatt he had been att Faiirffax Hiigh.. Hiis sttock,, whiich
he was no he resh new phenom ha he had been a Fa r ax H gh H s s ock wh ch
seemed hiigh tto tthe average ffan,, wentt down iin tthe eyes off tthe reall iinvesttors,, tthe scoutts..
seemed h gh o he average an wen down n he eyes o he rea nves ors he scou s
          The Chiicago Whiitte Sox siigned hiim tto a pallttry bonus and sttuck hiim iin tthe llow
           The Ch cago Wh e Sox s gned h m o a pa ry bonus and s uck h m n he ow

miinors.. The agoniiziing personall descentt off Bruce Gardner had begun..
m nors The agon z ng persona descen o Bruce Gardner had begun

On ttop off everytthiing ellse,, tthe drafftt was sttiilll iin pllace,, so Gardner ffound hiis dreams
 On op o every h ng e se he dra was s                        n p ace so Gardner ound h s dreams
ffurtther iintterruptted by a sttiintt iin tthe Army.. One day,, riidiing on tthe back off a ttruck wiitth
  ur her n errup ed by a s n n he Army One day r d ng on he back o a ruck w h
otther GIIs att Fortt Ord,, Calliifforniia,, Gardner was tthrown tto tthe ground when tthe ttruck hiitt
 o her G s a For Ord Ca orn a Gardner was hrown o he ground when he ruck h
a bump.. He re--iinjjured hiis arm,, and when he retturned tto baseballl hiis allready--eroded
 a bump He re n ured h s arm and when he re urned o baseba h s a ready eroded
skiillls were so ffar ffrom biig lleague qualliitty tthatt alll hope off a glloriious career ffaded away..
 sk s were so ar rom b g eague qua y ha a hope o a g or ous career aded away
Gardner''s miinor lleague career came tto an end prettty much tthe way iitt happens ffor 90
 Gardner s m nor eague career came o an end pre y much he way happens or 90
percentt off tthe kiids who siign conttractts..
 percen o he k ds who s gn con rac s
Afftter hiis rellease,, Gardner ttriied tto ffocus on otther tthiings,, lliike everybody ellse who mustt
 A er h s re ease Gardner r ed o ocus on o her h ngs ke everybody e se who mus
re--diirectt ttheiir efffortts.. He ttriied hiis hand att tthe iinsurance busiiness,, hopiing hiis SC conttactts
 re d rec he r e or s He r ed h s hand a he nsurance bus ness hop ng h s SC con ac s
and nottoriietty as a one--ttiime llocall sportts sttar woulld ellevatte hiis busiiness,, butt Bruce''s heartt
 and no or e y as a one me oca spor s s ar wou d e eva e h s bus ness bu Bruce s hear
was nott iin iitt.. He resentted hiis motther and Dedeaux ffor ttallkiing hiim outt off siigniing a biig
 was no n He resen ed h s mo her and Dedeaux or a k ng h m ou o s gn ng a b g
conttractt outt off hiigh schooll,, conviinciing hiimsellff tthatt allll tthose piittches he tthrew as a Trojjan
 con rac ou o h gh schoo conv nc ng h mse ha a hose p ches he hrew as a Tro an
amatteur coulld have been used iin tthe biigs..
 ama eur cou d have been used n he b gs
He saw anotther Jewiish kiid ffrom Faiirffax,, Larry Sherry,, attttaiin heiightts off gllory ffor tthe
 He saw ano her Jew sh k d rom Fa r ax Larry Sherry a a n he gh s o g ory or he
Dodgers iin tthe 1959 Worlld Seriies..
 Dodgers n he 1959 Wor d Ser es
Gardner,, on tthe otther hand,, solld iinsurance..
 Gardner on he o her hand so d nsurance
IIn 1974,, Gardner had a ffew cockttaiills,, gatthered allll hiis ttrophiies,, pllaques,, awards,, and
  n 1974 Gardner had a ew cock a s ga hered a h s roph es p aques awards and
memorabiilliia,, allong wiitth hiis USC degree,, and wentt tto tthe piittcher''s mound att tthe brand
 memorab a a ong w h h s USC degree and wen o he p cher s mound a he brand
new Dedeaux Fiielld on SC''s campus iin tthe dead off niightt.. He produced a gun,, putt iitt tto hiis
 new Dedeaux F e d on SC s campus n he dead o n gh He produced a gun pu                                   ohs
head and bllew hiis braiins outt..
 head and b ew h s bra ns ou
The nextt morniing,, a groundskeeper att ffiirstt tthoughtt tthe body on tthe mound was a drunken
 The nex morn ng a groundskeeper a rs hough he body on he mound was a drunken
sttudentt slleepiing one offf.. Then he saw tthe bllood,, tthen tthe suiiciide notte,, whiich was
 s uden s eep ng one o Then he saw he b ood hen he su c de no e wh ch was
addressed tto hiis motther and Coach Dedeaux,, and saiid,, "Thiis iis whatt II tthiink off your USC
 addressed o h s mo her and Coach Dedeaux and sa d "Th s s wha h nk o your USC
educattiion.."
 educa on "
Needlless tto say,, Bruce''s photto iis nott promiinenttlly diispllayed att Heriittage Hallll,, hiis sttory iis
 Need ess o say Bruce s pho o s no prom nen y d sp ayed a Her age Ha h s s ory s
nott re--ttolld iin Trojjan press guiides.. Menttiion off hiis name was ttaboo around Dedeaux..
 no re o d n Tro an press gu des Men on o h s name was aboo around Dedeaux


Three years afftter Gardner''s suiiciide,, anotther soutthpaw graced tthe piittcher''s mound att SC,,
Three years a er Gardner s su c de ano her sou hpaw graced he p cher s mound a SC
and he was even bettter tthan Gardner was..
and he was even be er han Gardner was
       Biillll Bordlley was 16--1 piittchiing ffor a CIIF--Soutthern Secttiion champiionshiip tteam att
       B Bord ey was 16 1 p ch ng or a C F Sou hern Sec on champ onsh p eam a

Biishop Monttgomery Hiigh Schooll iin Torrance iin 1975.. He was a llefftt--hander who
B shop Mon gomery H gh Schoo n Torrance n 1975 He was a e hander who

remiinded peoplle off Sandy Kouffax.. Afftter hiis seniior year iin 1976,, he was sellectted iin tthe
rem nded peop e o Sandy Kou ax A er h s sen or year n 1976 he was se ec ed n he

ffiirstt round by Miillwaukee,, butt tturned down ttheiir offfer tto attttend SC.. As a 1977 ffreshman,,
    rs round by M waukee bu urned down he r o er o a end SC As a 1977 reshman

he was 14--0,, a ffiirstt tteam Allll--Ameriican,, consiidered by some tto be tthe bestt piittcher iin
he was 14 0 a rs eam A Amer can cons dered by some o be he bes p cher n

baseballll .. .. .. periiod!!
baseba              per od

"He was tthe bestt piittcher II ever saw,," fformer Paciiffiic--10 Confference umpiire Roy Rotth,,
 "He was he bes p cher ever saw " ormer Pac c 10 Con erence ump re Roy Ro h
who allso worked iin tthe Majjor Leagues,, once saiid.. "Nott tthe bestt colllege piittcher.. The bestt
 who a so worked n he Ma or Leagues once sa d "No he bes co ege p cher The bes
piittcher.."
 p cher "
"My ffreshman year was a biig sttep,," says Bordlley.. "Haviing Dedeaux was tthe bestt
 "My reshman year was a b g s ep " says Bord ey "Hav ng Dedeaux was he bes
iinfflluence II ever had iin amatteur or pro ballll.. II sttiilll ttallk tto hiim.. He''s successffull and a
  n uence ever had n ama eur or pro ba                   s          a k o h m He s success u and a
lleader att everytthiing he does.. II llearned even when II was nott piittchiing,, and he diid iitt iin a
  eader a every h ng he does earned even when was no p ch ng and he d d n a
ffun ttype off manner.. We were never sttressed duriing biig momentts,, he coulld make you
  un ype o manner We were never s ressed dur ng b g momen s he cou d make you
rellax,, and gave you tthe ffeelliing tthatt you were Kiing Kong.. He''s done tthatt hiis wholle lliiffe,,
 re ax and gave you he ee ng ha you were K ng Kong He s done ha h s who e e
lliike iin hiis ttruckiing busiiness,, where he''s a mullttii--miillliionaiire.. You can go tto a suiitt and ttiie
    ke n h s ruck ng bus ness where he s a mu m ona re You can go o a su and e
eventt,, butt by tthe end off iitt Dedeaux wiillll allways have a crowd around hiim.. He used tto
 even bu by he end o Dedeaux w a ways have a crowd around h m He used o
tthrow parttiies att hiis pllace iin Seall Beach afftter we''d beatt UCLA,, and II wentt tto Japan wiitth
   hrow par es a h s p ace n Sea Beach a er we d bea UCLA and wen o Japan w h
hiim,, ttoo.."
 h m oo "
Dedeaux has a "Japan Room" att hiis beachsiide home,, where he diispllays memorabiilliia
 Dedeaux has a "Japan Room" a h s beachs de home where he d sp ays memorab a
ffrom hiis goodwiillll ttriips tto tthe Far Eastt,, sttrettchiing back tto tthe days nott llong afftter Worlld
   rom h s goodw r ps o he Far Eas s re ch ng back o he days no ong a er Wor d
War IIII..
 War
IIn 1978,, Bordlley was an Allll--Ameriican agaiin,, and tthe Trojjan tteam tthatt season iis
    n 1978 Bord ey was an A Amer can aga n and he Tro an eam ha season s
consiidered by many collllegiiatte baseballl entthusiiastts tto be tthe ffiinestt ever assemblled..
 cons dered by many co eg a e baseba en hus as s o be he nes ever assemb ed
"The ''78 tteam was tthe bestt ever,," agrees Bordlley..
 "The 78 eam was he bes ever " agrees Bord ey
Bordlley deffeatted a powerffull Ariizona Sttatte tteam iin tthe Colllege Worlld Seriies
 Bord ey de ea ed a power u Ar zona S a e eam n he Co ege Wor d Ser es
champiionshiip game..
 champ onsh p game
"The second--bestt colllege tteam off alll--ttiime was probablly Ariizona Sttatte iin ''78,," assertts
 "The second bes co ege eam o a me was probab y Ar zona S a e n 78 " asser s
Bordlley,, "yett we were vasttlly superiior tto tthem.. II never pllayed on a tteam tthatt had tthatt kiind
 Bord ey "ye we were vas y super or o hem never p ayed on a eam ha had ha k nd
off ttallentt,, pllus mottiivattiion.. Rod never allllowed diiversiions.. We were jjustt greatt,, we made
 o a en p us mo va on Rod never a owed d vers ons We were us grea we made
one error iin ffiive games att tthe Collllege Worlld Seriies.. We pllayed tthe game tthe riightt way.."
 one error n ve games a he Co ege Wor d Ser es We p ayed he game he r gh way "
Bordlley recalllled Dedeaux''s iinfflluence..
 Bord ey reca ed Dedeaux s n uence
"We had tthe same bus driiver iin Omaha ffor ttwo weeks,," he says.. "The guy had haiir down
 "We had he same bus dr ver n Omaha or wo weeks " he says "The guy had ha r down
tto hiis waiistt and a ffullll beard.. Rod keptt workiing on hiim,, and by tthe end off tthe Seriies he
   o h s wa s and a u beard Rod kep work ng on h m and by he end o he Ser es he
llooked lliike a busiinessman.."
   ooked ke a bus nessman "
Bordlley skiipped on tthe Allaskan Summer League,, and ttolld Dedeaux he was nott retturniing
 Bord ey sk pped on he A askan Summer League and o d Dedeaux he was no re urn ng
tto schooll.. Bordlley mustt have realliized tthatt tthe ttiime tto cash iin on a pro bonus was sooner
   o schoo Bord ey mus have rea zed ha he me o cash n on a pro bonus was sooner
ratther tthan llatter..
 ra her han a er
"II used tto tthrow 95 miilles an hour,," he saiid,, "butt by tthe end off my colllege career II was
 " used o hrow 95 m es an hour " he sa d "bu by he end o my co ege career was
down around 86--87.. II sttiillll had enough tto gett collllege hiittters outt,, butt II ffelltt paiin ffrom tthe
 down around 86 87 s had enough o ge co ege h ers ou bu e pa n rom he
wear and ttear off piittchiing..
 wear and ear o p ch ng
"The scoutts were nott as aware off my diimiiniished vellociitty because II had nott gone tthrough
 "The scou s were no as aware o my d m n shed ve oc y because had no gone hrough
a showcase jjuniior year.. We had ffiinanciiall hardshiips att tthe ttiime,, because my brotther had
 a showcase un or year We had nanc a hardsh ps a he me because my bro her had
been iin a car acciidentt,, and my ffatther had sufffered a heartt atttack.. II knew II''d be tthe
 been n a car acc den and my a her had su ered a hear a ack knew d be he
number one piick iin tthe counttry.. Bob Horner had jjustt siigned ffor $250,,000,, so II dropped
 number one p ck n he coun ry Bob Horner had us s gned or $250 000 so dropped
outt off schooll and enrolllled att Ell Camiino J..C..,, makiing mysellff avaiillablle ffor tthe January
 ou o schoo and enro ed a E Cam no J C mak ng myse ava ab e or he January
1979 drafftt.."
 1979 dra "
Bordlley allso may have realliized tthatt tthe cupboard was bare att Soutthern Call.. ''79 was tthe
 Bord ey a so may have rea zed ha he cupboard was bare a Sou hern Ca 79 was he
begiinniing off a llong dry spellll ffor Trojjan baseballl..
 beg nn ng o a ong dry spe or Tro an baseba
"Bowiie Kuhn was tthe Commiissiioner,," Bordlley conttiinues.. "IItt was a biig scandall,, and II
 "Bow e Kuhn was he Comm ss oner " Bord ey con nues " was a b g scanda and
was a biig ffiish iin a lliitttlle pond wiitth alll tthese jjuniior collllege kiids.."
 was a b g sh n a                 e pond w h a hese un or co ege k ds "
The wiintter drafftt iis allmostt excllusiivelly J..C.. pllayers,, receiives lliittttlle publliiciitty,, and bonus
 The w n er dra s a mos exc us ve y J C p ayers rece ves                               e pub c y and bonus
money iis miiniimall..
 money s m n ma
"II wantted $250,,000,," says Bordlley.. "Buzziie Bavasii off tthe Angells saiid he woulld mattch
 " wan ed $250 000 " says Bord ey "Buzz e Bavas o he Ange s sa d he wou d ma ch
tthatt,, and II saiid ahead off ttiime tthatt II woulld onlly siign wiitth a Westt Coastt tteam,, so II coulld
   ha and sa d ahead o me ha wou d on y s gn w h a Wes Coas eam so cou d
be near my ffatther.. Ciinciinnattii drafftted me afftter sayiing tthey woulldn''tt,, so Kuhn gott
 be near my a her C nc nna dra ed me a er say ng hey wou dn so Kuhn go
iinvollved.. He ffiined tthe Angells ffor ttamperiing,, tthen diid tthe same tthiing tthey had done wiitth
   nvo ved He ned he Ange s or amper ng hen d d he same h ng hey had done w h
Tom Seaver.."
 Tom Seaver "
Borlldlley''s name was putt iin a hatt,, and any Westt Coastt tteam wiillliing tto putt up a miiniimum
 Bor d ey s name was pu n a ha and any Wes Coas eam w ng o pu up a m n mum
off $150,,000 enttered tthe llotttery..
 o $150 000 en ered he o ery
"San Diiego was owned by Joan Kroc and tthey diid nott agree tto tthe miiniimum,," says
 "San D ego was owned by Joan Kroc and hey d d no agree o he m n mum " says
Bordlley.. "The Angells were barred,, and Oaklland had no money,, so iitt was tthe Dodgers,,
 Bord ey "The Ange s were barred and Oak and had no money so was he Dodgers
San Franciisco and Seatttlle.."
 San Franc sco and Sea e "
Miillwaukee,, tthe tteam tthatt had drafftted hiim tthree years priior,, was alllowed tto parttiiciipatte,,
 M waukee he eam ha had dra ed h m hree years pr or was a owed o par c pa e
butt tthe Giiantts name came up..
 bu he G an s name came up
"II wentt sttraiightt tto Spriing Traiiniing,," recalllls Biilll.. "They siigned me tto a Majjor League
 " wen s ra gh o Spr ng Tra n ng " reca s B "They s gned me o a Ma or League
conttractt,, whiich II''m gratteffull ffor because tthiis alllows me a pensiion,, butt iimmediiattelly tthey
 con rac wh ch m gra e u or because h s a ows me a pens on bu mmed a e y hey
coulld see tthatt my speed ffrom SC had dropped.. II had had a swolllen arm att tthe Collllege
 cou d see ha my speed rom SC had dropped had had a swo en arm a he Co ege
Worlld Seriies.."
 Wor d Ser es "
Bordlley wentt tthrough surgery afftter tthe 1980 season..
 Bord ey wen hrough surgery a er he 1980 season
"IItt was paiin and swellliing,," he recallls off tthe afftter--efffectts off tthe ffaiilled procedure.. Docttors
 " was pa n and swe ng " he reca s o he a er e ec s o he a ed procedure Doc ors
had attttemptted a "Tommy John" procedure,, usiing musclles ffrom hiis Achiillles and
 had a emp ed a "Tommy John" procedure us ng musc es rom h s Ach es and
iimpllanttiing tthem iin hiis ellbow.. He endured tthree surgeriies..
  mp an ng hem n h s e bow He endured hree surger es
"You know tthe olld expressiion,," he says.. "II was tthrowiing as hard as ever,, iitt jjustt wasn''tt
 "You know he o d express on " he says " was hrow ng as hard as ever                               us wasn
gettttiing tthere as ffastt.. "
 ge ng here as as "
Bordlley diid piittch briiefflly iin tthe biig lleagues,, and lliived iin Mariin Countty,, where he worked
 Bord ey d d p ch br e y n he b g eagues and ved n Mar n Coun y where he worked
wiitth weiightts iin a program deviised by a speciialliistt named Sattch Hennessy.. Nobody ttriied
 w h we gh s n a program dev sed by a spec a s named Sa ch Hennessy Nobody r ed
harder..
 harder
           "SII diid arttiiclles compariing me tto Kouffax,," he recallls.. "From my jjuniior year iin
            "S d d ar c es compar ng me o Kou ax " he reca s "From my un or year n

hiigh schooll tto age 22,, II was very conffiidentt,, II knew tthatt II coulld wiin.. II was sttriikiing outt
h gh schoo o age 22 was very con den knew ha cou d w n was s r k ng ou

ttwo guys an iinniing,, II was on ttop off my game.. II had tthe God--giiven abiilliitty tto tthrow a
  wo guys an nn ng was on op o my game had he God g ven ab y o hrow a

baseballll.. Pllus,, beiing a soutthpaw hellped,, and II had a good breakiing balll.."
baseba P us be ng a sou hpaw he ped and had a good break ng ba "

         But his arm was shot. Joe Torre invited him to Atlanta's Spring Training in1983,

but his career was over.

"Baseball was a positive influence," Bordley says without a trace of regret. "It gave me
financial independence, paid for college, and I saw the world. It taught me a great work
ethic. I have no problems leaving the game behind, you have to move on. I went back to
SC and earned a 3.8 GPA in finance."
Bill was the pitching coach under Dedeaux in 1984 and '85, when Mark McGwire and
Randy Johnson were there. In return for coaching, the school paid for him to complete a
Master's degree.
After graduation, he worked in finance in the San Francisco Bay Area. How did he end
up in the Secret Service, an elite, ultra-secret organization normally reserved for former
FBI agents and military officers?
"We played the Mets at Shea Stadium in 1980," Bordley recalls. "George Bush was the
Vice President, and I got to know some of the guys on his detail, I left them some tickets. I
was always interested in investigative work. I thought to myself, `Hey, I'd like to look into
that.'
"It took two and a half years of tests. I work on polygraph investigations, threat cases,
and deal with the CIA. If you know of a death threat, the Service administers a polygraph
test to determine if the person is on the level. I've interviewed Charles Manson, who
made threats from prison."
On can surmise that Bill determined that allowing Charlie out of prison would be a
threat.
Things got very interesting for Bordley when he was assigned to Chelsea Clinton's detail
at Stanford University. Naturally, he is unable to give specifics about the detail, or any of
the things he has seen while working for the Clinton Administration.
"I was on the President's and First Lady's detail," he says. "I had to testify in the Starr
Report, and I know Chelsea. She's a normal 20-year old kid. She goes to a lot of events,
and we try to make her college experience as normal as possible.
"What people don't realize is all the other things we do in the Service, like counterfeiting.
We're under the Treasury Department, so I travel the world - I've been to 75 countries -
where our money is counterfeited."
Bordley was asked about whether he was ever required to sign a document that would
not allow him to ever talk about inside Presidential stuff. If anybody has anything on
Presidents, past and present, it would be the Secret Service. In recent years, some former
Kennedy Secret Service agents disclosed details of White House shenanigans, but for the
most part, nobody ever hears a peep out of the non-partisan Service.
"We have top secret clearances," he explains, "and it's pretty much taboo to talk about
them. Before we get to the Presidential detail, there's so much screening that it's a virtual
certainty that an agent will not disclose secrets. It's also a matter of courtesy. It's taken
years for me to get in a position of trust with President and Mrs. Clinton, and with
Chelsea. If politicians couldn't trust the Secret Service, it would be very harmful to future
public figures. I look at it like a baseball clubhouse, where we went by the saying `What
you say here, what you see here, what you do here, let it stay here.' "
Bordley knew the Bruce Gardner story, but found no satisfaction in comparing himself to
his predecessor.
"It's an adjustment for anybody," he says, "whether you're Steve Compagno <this writer
knew Bordley in the early '80s, and Compagno is a mutual friend of ours who once
played in the Yankee organization, before embarking on a successful mortgage banking
career> or anybody. You learn a good work ethic and take the same positives that go into
being a Cy Young award winner or a 20-game winner, which are valuable."
Bordley still follows the Trojans, and remains loyal to Rod. He lives in San Jose, and
plans to retire in the Bay Area.
"I studied finance," he says, "and did well in stocks."


                                            The

                                         SIXTIES


                                     BILL REDELL

1960 (Freshman Team)
Quarterback
I was very fortunate to go to USC when I did go there. It's part of my college experience
and I consider myself a Trojan. I'm not bitter or feel I was treated unfairly just because I
left. I loved the experience I had there.
         I was at the USC extension school from 1959-60 and played freshman football
1960. There was Pete Beathard, Craig Fertig, Willie Brown and me. John McKay was in
his first year as the head coach. Al Davis recruited me. That was a lot of years ago but he
was a very enthusiastic guy and a great recruiter. I was very impressed with the guy. You
could not help but be. He seemed interested in me and was an excellent recruiter. I was
also recruited by Jim Sears and Russ Krudell. Various alumni guys came to all our games
and told Marv Goux about me. I played at San Marino High School. San Marino is the
hometown of the Patton family, as in General George Patton. There were some kids
named Patton. I'm not sure if they were related but I think so. I remember some General
Patton family stables. They owned land and it was horse country, and of course the
Patton legacy was a big part of San Marino history.
         My high school coach became the head coach at Occidental College, and that's
why I left. McKay was going to switch me from quarterback to running back. I'm not
positive, but in those days if I remember right you played both offense and defense, and
this effected my thinking. McKay had not recruit me, I was more one of Don Clark's
guys. We all played about the same on the freshman team. Pete Beathard was the starter.
I got and hurt missed some games but generally played equally. I could see that I was not
going to play quarterback ahead of Beathard, so I followed my old coach to Occidental. If
I'd stayed at USC I would have played another position.
           Occidental College had a real good small college football program, and a lot of
outstanding players. A few guys went to NFL camps. Jack Kemp played at Occidental. It
wasn't USC, but I made the College Football Foundation Hall of Fame, and I wouldn't
have been elected had I not had a good career, and had Occidental not been an excellent
program. It was one of the last of the great small college football powers. Occidental had
once been a rival of Southern California. In California, St. Mary's, USF, Santa Clara,
Loyola, Pomona and Occidental had all been great programs, teams that played USC and
Cal, and went to major bowl games like the Sugar Bowl, but segregation prohibited the
continuation of this. Eventually, pro football ate into the attendance of these programs so
only big programs like USC and UCLA could survive.
         In addition to playing quarterback, I played defense, special teams, punted, kicked
field goals, and was the captain. I played 60 minutes per game, so my election to the Hall
of Fame was based on all-around performance. When they put me into the Hall of Fame,
I went as much for what I did as a defensive back, but I was listed as a quarterback. I was
good at everything.
         I played for the Los Angeles Rams. The Denver Broncos of the American Football
League drafted me, too, but I went with the Rams and had a "cup of coffee" with them.
Then I played seven years in the Canadian Football League. I coached at Crespi High in
Encino, St. Francis in La Canada, and now at Oaks Christian in Thousand Oaks. Crespi
and St. Francis are Catholic schools, Oaks Christian is mainstream Christian. My faith
has driven me and I am interested in writing a book a book about my coaching experience
with an emphasis on how Christianity has been my guiding light.
       I also coached with Dick Coury at Cal State Fullerton. Coach Coury had been at

Mater Dei and was hired by John McKay at USC after John Huarte and Jack Snow, a

couple of Orange County players, starred at Notre Dame. McKay was tired of losing the

best Catholic school players from Southern California to Notre Dame, so he took this

step. Coach Coury earned his keep by placing tall Bill Hayhoe in the middle of the field

so he could block Zenon Andrusyshyn's kicks in USC's 21-20 win over UCLA for the

1967 national championship. USC has done an excellent job competing with Notre Dame

for great Catholic school players ever since.

       Several of Fullerton's coaches were killed in a plane crash, among them the uncle

of the Alabama All-American offensive lineman John Hannah. I was obviously not one

of them, but the tragedy effected me deeply and I was out of coaching for nine years. In

1980 I came back at Cal Lutheran. I went to the USFL with Coach Coury in Boston.

Then I coached for New Orleans and Portland until the league disbanded. Then I was at

Crespi when Russell White was the top prep running back in the nation.

       I coached John Sciarra's son at St. Francis. He was a gifted quarterback who
appeared to have Division I tools but did not start at UCLA before transferring to
Wagner. I've not had all that many players go to USC, but two of my best are there right
now. Marc Tyler is a running back and Marshall Jones is a defensive back.
       I don't know why, but UCLA didn't recruit Tyler, despite the fact that his father,
Wendell Tyler, was an All-American there before playing for the 49ers. Wendell wanted
him to play at USC and Coach Carroll does a great job recruiting. He's got six tailbacks
competing and Marc was hurt with a bad broken leg, but eventually he'll be a fine player.
He wanted to go to Notre Dame, but he's the kind of player Carroll wants, a winner
willing to compete. He'll be a big-time player every bit as good as his dad. I describe him
as "LenDale White with better speed," which is not bad!
       Allan Graf's son started out with me and he's going to USC. Clay Matthews is
from Agoura and didn't play for me but I know the family and their big-time Trojans.
Jimmy Clausen played quarterback for me. Now he's at Notre Dame and it's a challenge
for him. I coached Joe McKnight in the Army All-Star Game. I think he's going to be a
guy like Reggie Bush, but Marc's got a great chance to be just as good.
       As a high school coach over the years I've seen all the best recruiters, and Pete
Carroll's as good as any of them because he is sincere. Others are not sincere. Players are
looking for an individual who cares about his players, about their future. I'm impressed
with Pete but most college coaches are not like that.
         As for what makes Pete Carroll so successful beyond recruiting - and there is a
great deal beyond recruiting - I don't know about his practice plans, but I can see that his
teams are enthusiastic and disciplined. From what I'm told his practices are fast-paced
and always moving. He's always enthusiastic and I'm very impressed at how USC is high
for all their games.
         Even though I went to USC, I've always kind of been a UCLA guy in terms of
rooting, but now with players at USC and Brian Kennedy, a good friend whose very
involved at SC; the great thing about SC is that is if you're an alumni you're a Trojan for
life. They've been very good to me and I have a lot of friends there from the two years I
spent.

Bill Redell played freshman football with Craig Fertig and Pete Beathard before

transferring to Occidental College, where he was an All-American and later elected

to the National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame. After playing pro

football he became one of the greatest high school coaches in American history. The

former National Coach of the Year, his championship teams at California's Encino

Crespi Carmelite, La Canada St. Francis and Thousand Oaks Christian, have

produced numerous Trojans, including running back Marc Tyler.




                                      BOB SVIHUS

Left Tackle
1962 - 1964


What It Means To Be a USC Trojan.

       When I first enrolled at the University, my eventual coach, Marv Goux, said to

me: "Bobby you may only be here for a few years of your education, but you'll be a

Trojan for the rest of your life. You will have a lot of opportunities here, both good and

otherwise. There are only three things you can't do at the University of Southern
California; lie, cheat or steal. There is nothing in the world you can't accomplish while

you are here. Just go out and do the best job whether it's in the classroom or on the

football field."

He further said he was available 24 hours a day if I needed him for anything, but try not
to call him at home on the weekends, unless I was in jail. I loved the speech, I loved the
place, I loved the people.
Naturally, I was close to Southern California in my heart since I was born at Wilshire
Hospital, in downtown Los Angeles, during World War II. I moved away to Northern
California at a young age and was always happy to go on vacation to visit relatives in
Southern California during holidays and summer vacations. The growing up years in
Northern California were not as easy for me, since I became a victim of a one-parent
family.
In later years, when I became a student recruiter for the University, I always made sure
that whoever I was recruiting was always given the "you'll be a Trojan for the rest of your
life" speech. I wanted to make sure that if a prospective student-athlete did not view the
surroundings at the campus with enough enthusiasm or did not particularly like the faces,
types of people, even the color of their skin or perhaps their religious preferences; then
the University was not going to be a successful place for them to learn. I was so ingrained
with the Trojan spirit/attitude that I knew every visiting student-athlete may not feel like I
did. I freely admitted in my recruiting talks that if they didn't love or feel as partial as I
did, then perhaps the University was not a place for them. A lot of fine student-athletes
came through during my recruiting years and I'm happy to say only a modest number did
not choose the University to be their place of education. But, for all the student-athletes
who did choose the University, wow! What a legacy. I received a small pillow last
Christmas from one of my daughters and on one side of the pillow it said, "It's Hard To
Be Humble When You're From USC."
While Marv Goux was one of the most popular and likeable people that ever walked this
planet, he had his dark side and many people, it was said, not including myself, were able
to see through his "veneer" of likeability. I never saw Marv that way, to me he was a
friend almost like a big brother. I was as impressed with his dark side as I was with his
spirit, loyalty, and enthusiasm. On the very few occasions when his darkside surfaced, I
was able to embrace it and learn from it. In later years, I've come to know a great many
people from all walks of life and what I learned from Marv, I still cherish to this day.
To me, it truly is great to be a Trojan!


Bob Svihus was an all-conference selection in 1964. Drafted by the Dallas Cowboys

(NFL) and Oakland Raiders (AFL), he played for the silver-and-black from 1965 to

1970. He was a member of Oakland's 1967 Super Bowl team, and played with the

New York Jets from 1971-72.
THE REINCARNATION OF CHRISTY MATHEWSON

From The 1969 Amazin' Mets, 2009



The Fresno Ciitty Collllege Rams have one off tthe greattestt J..C.. baseballl ttradiittiions iin tthe
The Fresno C y Co ege Rams have one o he grea es J C baseba rad ons n he

counttry.. Malloney,, Elllswortth and Sellma alll piittched tthere beffore goiing tto tthe biig lleagues..
coun ry Ma oney E swor h and Se ma a p ched here be ore go ng o he b g eagues

Scoutts and collllege coaches paiid atttenttiion tto tthem.. IIn Septtember off 1963,, a couplle
Scou s and co ege coaches pa d a en on o hem n Sep ember o 1963 a coup e

montths shy off hiis 19tth biirtthday,, Seaver came outt ffor whatt tthe coaches and pllayers calll
mon hs shy o h s 19 h b r hday Seaver came ou or wha he coaches and p ayers ca

“ffallll balll..” He was known ffor haviing made alll--ciitty piittcher att Fresno Hiigh,, even iiff iitt had
“ a ba ” He was known or hav ng made a c y p cher a Fresno H gh even                                      had

been “because tthere wasn’’tt anyone ellse tto choose..”
been “because here wasn anyone e se o choose ”

         But his new height, the 30 pounds of muscle, the newfound strength, gave Tom

confidence that he could not help but be noticed by coaches and players alike. After the

initial period of conditioning came the moment of truth: try-outs on the mound. After

warming up, Seaver got set, went into his motion, and delivered a 90-mile per hour fast

ball.

The ball sailed up and in, smacking into the catcher’s mitt with a loud thud. Suddenly,
USC did not look like such a pipe dream. In the spring of 1964, freshman right-hander
Tom Seaver was the ace of the Fresno City College team, compiling an 11-2 record
against stiff competition, earning team MVP honors.
What was happening to Seaver was less a phenomenon and more common than many
realize. The high school blue chipper is accorded great attention, but many times he has
physically matured sooner than his peers have. Sometimes he peaks at the age of 17 or
18. Others, like Seaver, grow, gain strength, and mature in more ways than one. Few
make the kind of transition that Tom Seaver would ultimately make, but many high school
“suspects” in various sports go on to become “prospects” in college, in the minor
leagues, and in their 20s. Some attain stardom. Scouting is a very tricky, unpredictable
business.
The impossible seemed to have occurred. Seaver’s 11-2 record at Fresno City College
earned the recruiting attention of Rod Dedeaux. He was a legitimate fastball artist.
Dedeaux called him the “phee-nom from San Joaquin.”
But Dedeaux needed to know for sure that he could compete for the Trojans. “I only have
five scholarships to give out,” the coach told him. Before the ride would be offered,
Seaver would have to prove himself with the Fairbanks, Alaska Goldpanners.
Today, collegiate summer baseball is a well-known commodity. Many scouts place more
credence on a player’s performance in one of these leagues than they do on their college
seasons. The Cape Cod League uses only wooden bats, which proves to be a great
equalizer for pitchers and a shock for aluminum-bat sluggers who find themselves batting
.250 on the Cape. Summer ball has a long tradition in Canada, where American
collegians test themselves in such exotic locales as Red Deer, Alberta, Calgary and
Edmonton. The Kamloops International Tournament in British Columbia has attracted
some of the fastest baseball for decades. The Jayhawk League, consisting of teams from
Boulder, Pueblo, Colorado Springs, plus Kansas and Iowa, was once a leading
destination for college players. The California Collegiate Summer League, consisting of
teams from the Humboldt Crabs in the north to the San Diego Aztecs in the south, has
produced many stars in its various forms over the years.
But the Alaskan Summer Collegiate League is the most legendary. Over time, the league
became the Alaska-Hawaii League, with teams flying in for extended road trips on the
islands and the “land of the midnight sun.”
“The team was put together by a man named Red Boucher,” said former Met pitcher
Danny Frisella, who was a teammate of Seaver’s in Fairbanks. Boucher was the Mayor
of Fairbanks. “He got all the best young ball players up there.” Andy Messersmith of the
University of California became a 20-game winner with the California Angels. Mike Paul
pitched for Cleveland. Graig Nettles played for Minnesota. USC quarterback Steve
Sogge, a baseball catcher, played on that team. Rick Monday was an All-American at
Arizona State, where he was a teammate of Reggie Jackson and Sal Bando in a program
that captured the 1965 National Championship (also producing Mets’ pitcher Gary
Gentry). In the very first amateur draft ever held in 1965, Monday became the first player
chosen, by the Kansas City A’s.
“Monday was there the year I was and he couldn’t even make our team,” said Frisella.
“I think 13 guys were signed off that team. It was semi-pro ball, and we played eight
games a week. We didn’t get paid. Not for playing ball. But I earned $650 a month for
pulling a lever on a dump truck. And I didn’t have to pull the lever too often.”
        The man most responsible for the growth of summer collegiate baseball was

Dedeaux. In 1963, when his Trojans won their fourth national championship, the press

dubbed his team the “New York Yankees of college baseball.” He eventually retired with

11, having produced such stalwarts as Ron Fairly, Don Buford, Bill “Spaceman” Lee,

Jim Barr, Dave Kingman, Rich Dauer, Steve Kemp, Fred Lynn, Steve Busby, Roy

Smalley, Mark McGwire and Randy Johnson. His successor, Mike Gillespie, won the

school’s 12th College World Series in 1998 (Texas is second with five) while producing
such talented stars as Bret Boone, Aaron Boone, Jeff Cirillo, Geoff Jenkins, Jacque

Jones, Morgan Ensberg, Barry Zito and Mark Prior.

         If a young player wanted to test himself amongst the best of the best, he could find

no more competitive environment than the USC baseball program. For Tom Seaver,

having tasted real success for the first time in his life at Fresno City College, it

represented the ultimate challenge. He needed that scholarship; not just to save his father

from paying the steep tuition, but also to give himself imprimatur as opposed to “walk

on” status.

Dedeaux had come outt off Holllywood Hiigh Schooll tto become tthe capttaiin off tthe Trojjan
 Dedeaux had come ou o Ho ywood H gh Schoo o become he cap a n o he Tro an
baseballll tteam.. He had tthe briieffestt off Majjor League “careers” wiitth tthe Brookllyn
 baseba eam He had he br e es o Ma or League “careers” w h he Brook yn
Dodgers,, butt beffriiended hiis manager,, Casey Sttengell.. Latter,, Sttengell broughtt hiis Yankees
 Dodgers bu be r ended h s manager Casey S enge La er S enge brough h s Yankees
tto Los Angelles ffor exhiibiittiion games agaiinstt USC,, giiviing colllege pllayers tthe chance tto
  o Los Ange es or exh b on games aga ns USC g v ng co ege p ayers he chance o
pllay agaiinstt Miickey Manttlle and Whiittey Ford.. Afftter rettiirementt ffrom managiing tthe Metts,,
 p ay aga ns M ckey Man e and Wh ey Ford A er re remen rom manag ng he Me s
he became a bankiing executtiive iin Gllendalle,, tthe L..A.. suburb where Dedeaux lliived.. For
 he became a bank ng execu ve n G enda e he L A suburb where Dedeaux ved For
years Casey was a regullar att Trojjan baseballl games..
 years Casey was a regu ar a Tro an baseba games
Dedeaux was a key ffiigure iin organiiziing and growiing tthe popullariitty off tthe Colllege Worlld
 Dedeaux was a key gure n organ z ng and grow ng he popu ar y o he Co ege Wor d
Seriies.. The ffiirstt CWS was helld iin Kallamazoo,, Miichiigan and ffeattured tthe Uniiversiitty off
 Ser es The rs CWS was he d n Ka amazoo M ch gan and ea ured he Un vers y o
Calliifforniia Gollden Bears beattiing Yalle ffor tthe nattiionall ttiittlle.. Yalle’’s ffiirstt baseman was a
 Ca orn a Go den Bears bea ng Ya e or he na ona                                   e Ya e s rs baseman was a
war vetteran named George H..W.. Bush.. Bush and Yalle came back tthe nextt year,, onlly tto
 war ve eran named George H W Bush Bush and Ya e came back he nex year on y o
be beatten tthiis ttiime by Dedeaux’’s Trojjans.. Eventtuallly,, tthe CWS ffound a permanentt home
 be bea en h s me by Dedeaux s Tro ans Even ua y he CWS ound a permanen home
iin Omaha,, Nebraska..
  n Omaha Nebraska
“He never llooked lliike a ballll pllayer,, butt he had eyes iin tthe back off hiis head,,” saiid Biilll
 “He never ooked ke a ba p ayer bu he had eyes n he back o h s head ” sa d B
Lee,, who pllayed ffour years under hiim ffrom 1965 tto 1968,, earniing Alll--Ameriican piittcher
 Lee who p ayed our years under h m rom 1965 o 1968 earn ng A Amer can p cher
honors and a Nattiionall ttiittlle iin hiis seniior year.. “He knew iin tthe ffiirstt iinniing whatt woulld
 honors and a Na ona                   e n h s sen or year “He knew n he rs nn ng wha wou d
happen iin tthe ffiifftth;; iin tthe ffiifftth whatt tto expectt iin tthe eiightth..” The greattestt tteams Lee ever
 happen n he h n he h wha o expec n he e gh h ” The grea es eams Lee ever
saw were “tthe 1975 Ciinciinnattii Reds,, any Taiiwanese lliittttlle lleague tteam,, and tthe 1968
 saw were “ he 1975 C nc nna Reds any Ta wanese                                  e eague eam and he 1968
USC Trojjans!!”
 USC Tro ans ”
“Dedeaux was tthe sharpestt ttack iin tthe box,,” recallled Miike Giillllespiie,, who pllayed on hiis
 “Dedeaux was he sharpes ack n he box ” reca ed M ke G esp e who p ayed on h s
1961 Collllege Worlld Seriies champiions..
 1961 Co ege Wor d Ser es champ ons
An exttraordiinary amountt off atthllettiic ttallentt ffllowed tto tthe proffessiionall sportts lleagues ffrom
 An ex raord nary amoun o a h e c a en owed o he pro ess ona spor s eagues rom
USC and Calliifforniia iin generall.. Huge crowds wattchiing Trojjan ffoottballl games att tthe L..A..
 USC and Ca orn a n genera Huge crowds wa ch ng Tro an oo ba games a he L A
Memoriiall Colliiseum pllayed a llarge rolle iin lluriing tthe Dodgers and Lakers outt westt..
 Memor a Co seum p ayed a arge ro e n ur ng he Dodgers and Lakers ou wes
Dedeaux moderniized tthe collllegiiatte game ffrom a “cllub sportt” tto a piipelliine ffor tthe pros..
 Dedeaux modern zed he co eg a e game rom a “c ub spor ” o a p pe ne or he pros
Uttiilliiziing tthe perffectt Calliifforniia weatther,, he tturned hiis iintto a year--round program.. There
 U z ng he per ec Ca orn a wea her he urned h s n o a year round program There
was “ffalll balll” ffrom Septtember tto Thanksgiiviing;; ffolllowed by a ffulll sllatte off 50--60 games
 was “ a ba ” rom Sep ember o Thanksg v ng o owed by a u s a e o 50 60 games
iin tthe spriing iinsttead off a pallttry 20 or 25.. Butt iitt was summer balll tthatt Dedeaux tturned
  n he spr ng ns ead o a pa ry 20 or 25 Bu was summer ba ha Dedeaux urned
iintto breediing grounds ffor diiamond success..
  n o breed ng grounds or d amond success
A collllege pllayer generallly retturned tto hiis homettown afftter schooll llett outt and pllayed on a
 A co ege p ayer genera y re urned o h s home own a er schoo e ou and p ayed on a
piick--up tteam,, or a ragamufffiin semii--pro outtffiitt.. The compettiittiion was nott good and pllayers
 p ck up eam or a ragamu n sem pro ou                            The compe on was no good and p ayers
beneffiitted lliittttlle,, retturniing tto schooll wiitthoutt haviing progressed.. Dedeaux wantted hiis
 bene ed               e re urn ng o schoo w hou hav ng progressed Dedeaux wan ed h s
pllayers tto experiience sometthiing akiin tto miinor lleague lliiffe;; pllayiing niighttlly games,,
 p ayers o exper ence some h ng ak n o m nor eague e p ay ng n gh y games
ttravelliing,, and handlliing a ffastt brand off balll tthatt prepared tthem ffor tthe collllege season,,
  rave ng and hand ng a as brand o ba ha prepared hem or he co ege season
tthen a pro career..
  hen a pro career
IIn tthe 1950s he sentt hiis pllayers tto Canada,, where iin addiittiion tto good baseballl
   n he 1950s he sen h s p ayers o Canada where n add on o good baseba
experiience tthey enjjoyed tthe educattiionall aspectts off lliiffe iin an “exottiic” llocalle ffar ffrom
 exper ence hey en oyed he educa ona aspec s o e n an “exo c” oca e ar rom
home.. When Allaska became a sttatte,, Red Boucher raiised money tto buiilld a ffiirstt cllass
 home When A aska became a s a e Red Boucher ra sed money o bu d a rs c ass
ffaciilliitty and began recruiittiing tthe bestt colllegiians tto Faiirbanks.. Dedeaux and USC were
  ac y and began recru ng he bes co eg ans o Fa rbanks Dedeaux and USC were
hiis number one source.. A lleague was develloped wiitth tteams iin Faiirbanks,, Anchorage ((tthe
 h s number one source A eague was deve oped w h eams n Fa rbanks Anchorage he
Gllaciier Piillotts and llatter tthe Nortth Polle Kniicks)),, tthe Pallmer Vallley Green Giiantts,, and tthe
 G ac er P o s and a er he Nor h Po e Kn cks he Pa mer Va ey Green G an s and he
Kenaii Peniinsulla Oiillers.. Teams ffrom Canada and tthe conttiiguous llower 48 sttattes ttravelled
 Kena Pen nsu a O ers Teams rom Canada and he con guous ower 48 s a es rave ed
tto Allaska.. The sun allmostt never sett iin tthe summer.. Liightts were nott needed.. On June 21 a
  o A aska The sun a mos never se n he summer L gh s were no needed On June 21 a
“miidniightt sun” game sttarttiing att 11 P..M.. was pllayed wiitthoutt any lliighttiing.. The Allaskan
 “m dn gh sun” game s ar ng a 11 P M was p ayed w hou any gh ng The A askan
tteams allso ttravelled,, pllayiing iin an end--off summer ttournamentt callled tthe Nattiionall
  eams a so rave ed p ay ng n an end o summer ournamen ca ed he Na ona
Baseballll Congress iin Wiichiitta,, Kansas.. The NBC ffeattured alll tthe bestt tteams ffrom across
 Baseba Congress n W ch a Kansas The NBC ea ured a he bes eams rom across
Ameriica.. The Canadiian tteams generallly pllayed iin tthe Kamlloops IIntternattiionall
 Amer ca The Canad an eams genera y p ayed n he Kam oops n erna ona
Tournamentt..
 Tournamen
Years llatter,, when Tom Seaver became a broadcastter even beffore hiis pllayiing career
 Years a er when Tom Seaver became a broadcas er even be ore h s p ay ng career
ended,, he ttolld parttner Joe Garagiiolla off hiis Allaskan experiience duriing a Worlld Seriies
 ended he o d par ner Joe Garag o a o h s A askan exper ence dur ng a Wor d Ser es
ttellecastt..
  e ecas
“They pllay baseballl iin Allaska?” asked Garagiiolla..
 “They p ay baseba n A aska?” asked Garag o a
“Realllly good baseballll,, Joe,,” replliied Seaver..
 “Rea y good baseba Joe ” rep ed Seaver
“Tellll me aboutt iitt,,” iinquiired Garagiiolla,, and Seaver diid jjustt tthatt..
 “Te me abou ” nqu red Garag o a and Seaver d d us ha
IIn June,, 1964 Seaver boarded a pllane ffor Faiirbanks tto jjoiin a tteam consiisttiing off ffutture
   n June 1964 Seaver boarded a p ane or Fa rbanks o o n a eam cons s ng o u ure
biig lleaguers Monday,, Netttlles,, Curtt Mottton,, Ken Hollttzman and Gary Suttherlland off USC..
 b g eaguers Monday Ne es Cur Mo on Ken Ho zman and Gary Su her and o USC
They were Alll--Ameriicans wiitth nattiionall reputtattiions.. Seaver was iimmediiattelly iinttiimiidatted,,
 They were A Amer cans w h na ona repu a ons Seaver was mmed a e y n m da ed
wonderiing whetther he,, a jjuniior colllege piittcher sttiilll battttlliing tthe iinsecuriittiies off a notthiing
 wonder ng whe her he a un or co ege p cher s ba ng he nsecur es o a no h ng
prep career,, coulld compette att tthiis llevell.. He had lliitttlle ttiime ffor conttempllattiion once he
 prep career cou d compe e a h s eve He had                             e me or con emp a on once he
arriived,, however.. Boucher’’s wiiffe mett hiim att tthe aiirportt..
 arr ved however Boucher s w e me h m a he a rpor
“We’’re pllayiing a game riightt now,,” she ttolld hiim.. “II broughtt a uniifform wiitth me.. You can
 “We re p ay ng a game r gh now ” she o d h m “ brough a un orm w h me You can
putt iitt on att tthe ffiielld.. We may need you..”
 pu on a he e d We may need you ”
The beauttiiffull sttadiium and tthe llarge crowd sttruck Seaver.. IIn a ttown off 20,,000,, some
 The beau u s ad um and he arge crowd s ruck Seaver n a own o 20 000 some
50,,000 peoplle atttended Golldpanners games..
 50 000 peop e a ended Go dpanners games
“II dressed iin a shack near tthe ffiielld,,” Seaver recalllled..
 “ dressed n a shack near he e d ” Seaver reca ed
There was no ttiime ffor iinttroducttiions when he arriived iin tthe dugoutt,, beyond Boucher’’s
 There was no me or n roduc ons when he arr ved n he dugou beyond Boucher s
handshake and orders tto gett tto tthe bulllpen tto warm up riightt now.. The score was ttiied 2--2
 handshake and orders o ge o he bu pen o warm up r gh now The score was ed 2 2
wiitth tthe Belllliingham,, Washiingtton Bellls iin tthe ffiifftth iinniing as Seaver hurriiedlly gott lloose,,
 w h he Be ngham Wash ng on Be s n he h nn ng as Seaver hurr ed y go oose
was waved iintto tthe game and “mett my cattcher on tthe way tto tthe mound..”
 was waved n o he game and “me my ca cher on he way o he mound ”
He proceeded tto rettiire tthe siide,, tthen mett hiis tteammattes iin tthe dugoutt.. Thatt niightt,, Seaver
 He proceeded o re re he s de hen me h s eamma es n he dugou Tha n gh Seaver
piittched effffecttiivelly iin relliieff,, earniing a hard--ffoughtt viicttory and tthe respectt off hiis alll--sttar
 p ched e ec ve y n re e earn ng a hard ough v c ory and he respec o h s a s ar
mattes.. He was used maiinlly iin relliieff,, llatter rattiing hiimsellff tthe “tthiird-- or ffourtth--lliine
 ma es He was used ma n y n re e a er ra ng h mse he “ h rd or our h ne
piittcher” on tthe ‘‘Panners.. He lliived wiitth tthe Bouchers.. Asiide ffrom beiing a communiitty
 p cher” on he Panners He ved w h he Bouchers As de rom be ng a commun y
lleader,, Red was a sharp baseballl man who ttaughtt young Seaver iimporttantt llessons on tthe
  eader Red was a sharp baseba man who augh young Seaver mpor an essons on he
psychollogy off piittchiing.. He was very much lliike Tom’’s opttiimiistt motther.. Seaver came tto
 psycho ogy o p ch ng He was very much ke Tom s op m s mo her Seaver came o
understtand tthatt hallff tthe batttlle was belliieviing iin hiimsellff.. Through psychollogy and tthe
 unders and ha ha he ba e was be ev ng n h mse Through psycho ogy and he
experiience off successffulllly ttesttiing hiimsellff agaiinstt tthe bestt,, he was gaiiniing iinvalluablle
 exper ence o success u y es ng h mse aga ns he bes he was ga n ng nva uab e
conffiidence.. Boucher ttolld hiim tthatt each morniing he needed tto wake up and say tto hiimsellff,,
 con dence Boucher o d h m ha each morn ng he needed o wake up and say o h mse
“II am a Majjor Leaguer..”
 “ am a Ma or Leaguer ”
Dedeaux coached a summer tteam off USC pllayers iin Los Angelles tthatt ttravelled tto
 Dedeaux coached a summer eam o USC p ayers n Los Ange es ha rave ed o
Faiirbanks.. Seaver piittched and mowed tthem down wiitth hiigh heatt.. When Boucher yellled
 Fa rbanks Seaver p ched and mowed hem down w h h gh hea When Boucher ye ed
att Dedeaux ffrom across tthe ffiielld how iitt was goiing,, tthe USC coached cracked,, “How tthe
 a Dedeaux rom across he e d how was go ng he USC coached cracked “How he
hellll woulld II know? II haven’’tt seen tthe balll siince tthe second iinniing..” Seaver’’s schollarshiip
 he wou d know? haven seen he ba s nce he second nn ng ” Seaver s scho arsh p
offffer was seemiinglly secured tthatt niightt,, butt tthere were sttiilll bumps iin tthe road..
 o er was seem ng y secured ha n gh bu here were s bumps n he road
IIn Augustt tthe Golldpanners made ttheiir way tto Wiichiitta ffor tthe NBC,, sttoppiing iin Grand
  n Augus he Go dpanners made he r way o W ch a or he NBC s opp ng n Grand
Juncttiion,, Collorado ffor a ttune--up agaiinstt a ffastt semii--pro outtffiitt.. Seaver sttartted butt was
 Junc on Co orado or a une up aga ns a as sem pro ou                                  Seaver s ar ed bu was
hammered offff tthe mound.. NBC rulles requiired tthe rostter be reduced tto 18 pllayers..
 hammered o he mound NBC ru es requ red he ros er be reduced o 18 p ayers
Boucher had tto deciide bettween Seaver and Hollttzman,, an Alll--Ameriican att tthe Uniiversiitty
 Boucher had o dec de be ween Seaver and Ho zman an A Amer can a he Un vers y
off IIllliinoiis.. He viisiitted Seaver iin hiis hottell room tto iinquiire off hiis conffiidence,, butt tthe young
 o         no s He v s ed Seaver n h s ho e room o nqu re o h s con dence bu he young
Calliifforniian jjustt ttolld hiim tto “ttry me..” Boucher keptt Seaver..
 Ca orn an us o d h m o “ ry me ” Boucher kep Seaver
Agaiinstt tthe Wiichiitta Gllassmen,, Seaver was callled on iin relliieff wiitth tthe Golldpanners
 Aga ns he W ch a G assmen Seaver was ca ed on n re e w h he Go dpanners
wiinniing 2--0.. The bases were lloaded iin tthe ffiifftth iinniing wiitth one outt.. Boucher ttriied tto
 w nn ng 2 0 The bases were oaded n he h nn ng w h one ou Boucher r ed o
stteady hiis relliiever,, butt Seaver jjustt growlled tthatt he had “lliisttened tto you allll summer llong..
 s eady h s re ever bu Seaver us grow ed ha he had “ s ened o you a summer ong
Now iitt’’s up tto me.. Giive me tthe balll and gett outt off here..”
 Now s up o me G ve me he ba and ge ou o here ”
Conffiidentt or nott,, iitt ttook some doiing ffor Seaver tto stteady hiimsellff.. Two wallks and an
 Con den or no                  ook some do ng or Seaver o s eady h mse Two wa ks and an
iinffiielld hiitt pushed across tthree runs and now tthe Golldpanners ttraiilled,, 3--2.. A doublle--pllay
  n e d h pushed across hree runs and now he Go dpanners ra ed 3 2 A doub e p ay
keptt tthe damage down.. Over tthe nextt iinniings Seaver gaiined command.. IItt was beffore tthe
 kep he damage down Over he nex nn ngs Seaver ga ned command was be ore he
days off tthe desiignatted hiittter.. IIn tthe eiightth iinniing wiitth tthe bases lloaded Seaver came tto
 days o he des gna ed h er n he e gh h nn ng w h he bases oaded Seaver came o
tthe pllatte.. Boucher saw sometthiing iin tthe young man who had once battted ..543 wiitth 10
  he p a e Boucher saw some h ng n he young man who had once ba ed 543 w h 10
home runs iin lliitttlle lleague.. He deciided tto llett hiim hiitt.. Seaver responded wiitth a grand sllam
 home runs n               e eague He dec ded o e h m h Seaver responded w h a grand s am
tto wiin tthe game.. He piittched and won a second game iin tthe ttournamentt,, earniing summer
  o w n he game He p ched and won a second game n he ournamen earn ng summer
Alll--Ameriican honors ffrom tthe Nattiionall Baseballl Congress.. For tthe ffiirstt ttiime,,
 A Amer can honors rom he Na ona Baseba Congress For he rs me
proffessiionall scoutts were evalluattiing hiim..
 pro ess ona scou s were eva ua ng h m
“We had a llott off pllayers who coulld tthrow tthe balll harder tthan Tom,,” Boucher recallled..
 “We had a o o p ayers who cou d hrow he ba harder han Tom ” Boucher reca ed
“Hiis ffasttballl moved wellll,, butt he was no Sandy Kouffax.. Hiis curve and slliider were nott
 “H s as ba moved we bu he was no Sandy Kou ax H s curve and s der were no
much bettter tthan average by colllege sttandards.. Hiis greattestt assett was hiis ttremendous
 much be er han average by co ege s andards H s grea es asse was h s remendous
wiillll tto wiin.. And he had tthiis super concenttrattiion.. He belliieved he coulld putt tthe balll riightt
 w o w n And he had h s super concen ra on He be eved he cou d pu he ba r gh
tthrough tthe batt iiff he wantted tto..”
  hrough he ba he wan ed o ”
Dedeaux callled Boucher and iinquiired off severall USC pllayers on tthe Faiirbanks rostter..
 Dedeaux ca ed Boucher and nqu red o severa USC p ayers on he Fa rbanks ros er
Boucher iintterruptted hiim tto say tthatt Seaver woulld be “your bestt piittcher..” Boucher
 Boucher n errup ed h m o say ha Seaver wou d be “your bes p cher ” Boucher
assured hiim tthatt he woulld “bett on iitt,,” tto whiich Dedeaux replliied tthatt tthe Allaska
 assured h m ha he wou d “be on ” o wh ch Dedeaux rep ed ha he A aska
manager was so hiigh on tthe kiid “II realllly don’’tt have any choiice..”
 manager was so h gh on he k d “ rea y don have any cho ce ”
Seaver had ffiinallly assured hiimsellff off tthe schollarshiip.. He arriived att USC duriing a gollden
 Seaver had na y assured h mse o he scho arsh p He arr ved a USC dur ng a go den
age on campus and iin Los Angelles.. Thatt ffalll off 1964,, quartterback Craiig Ferttiig lled tthe
 age on campus and n Los Ange es Tha a o 1964 quar erback Cra g Fer g ed he
Trojjans tto a breatthttakiing comeback viicttory over Nottre Dame,, 20--17.. USC’’s runniing
 Tro ans o a brea h ak ng comeback v c ory over No re Dame 20 17 USC s runn ng
back,, Miike Garrettt,, woulld go on tto become tthe ffiirstt off tthe schooll’’s seven Heiisman
 back M ke Garre wou d go on o become he rs o he schoo s seven He sman
Trophy wiinners..
 Trophy w nners
             The acttor Tom Sellleck,, a baskettballl,, baseballl and vollleyballl sttar outt off Van Nuys
             The ac or Tom Se eck a baske ba baseba and vo eyba s ar ou o Van Nuys

Hiigh Schooll,, was on campus.. A ffew years separatted tthem,, butt Seaver and Biilll Lee were
H gh Schoo was on campus A ew years separa ed hem bu Seaver and B Lee were

iin tthe program att tthe same ttiime.. IItt was a domiinantt age,, under atthllettiic diirecttor Jess Hiilll
  n he program a he same me was a dom nan age under a h e c d rec or Jess H
tthe greattestt susttaiined sportts run iin collllege hiisttory.. Asiide ffrom Dedeaux’’s perenniiall
  he grea es sus a ned spor s run n co ege h s ory As de rom Dedeaux s perenn a

champiions,, John McKay’’s ffoottballl tteam won ttwo nattiionall ttiittlles and ttwo Heiismans iin tthe
champ ons John McKay s oo ba eam won wo na ona                            es and wo He smans n he

decade.. The ttrack,, swiimmiing and ttenniis tteams won NCAA ttiittlles wiitth regullariitty..
decade The rack sw mm ng and enn s eams won NCAA es w h regu ar y

           Cross--ttown,, John Wooden’’s UCLA baskettballl dynastty was jjustt heattiing up tthatt
           Cross own John Wooden s UCLA baske ba dynas y was us hea ng up ha

year.. Biig lleague baseballl was iin ffulll swiing on tthe Westt Coastt.. The Los Angelles Angells
year B g eague baseba was n u sw ng on he Wes Coas The Los Ange es Ange s

were an expansiion tteam.. The Giiantts and Dodgers had conttiinued ttheiir riivallry iin
were an expans on eam The G an s and Dodgers had con nued he r r va ry n

Calliifforniia.. Sandy Kouffax and tthe Dodgers solld outt tthe beauttiiffull new Dodger Sttadiium
Ca orn a Sandy Kou ax and he Dodgers so d ou he beau u new Dodger S ad um

and won tthe Worlld Seriies ttwiice iin tthree years..
and won he Wor d Ser es w ce n hree years

           The ffamed USC ffiillm schooll allso became worlld cllass att tthatt ttiime.. Two off ttheiir
           The amed USC m schoo a so became wor d c ass a ha me Two o he r

mostt ffamous sttudentts were iin schooll when Seaver was tthere.. George Lucas woulld creatte
mos amous s uden s were n schoo when Seaver was here George Lucas wou d crea e

tthe bllockbustter Sttar Wars seriies.. John Miilliius wrotte tthe screenpllays Diirtty Harry and
  he b ockbus er S ar Wars ser es John M us wro e he screenp ays D r y Harry and

Magnum Force;; tthen diirectted The Wiind and tthe Liion and Red Dawn,, among many
Magnum Force hen d rec ed The W nd and he L on and Red Dawn among many

otthers.. He woulld become known as tthe mostt conservattiive ffiillmmaker iin nottoriiouslly
o hers He wou d become known as he mos conserva ve mmaker n no or ous y

lliiberall Hollllywood.. Anotther aspiiriing ffiillm sttudentt was tturned down by USC.. Stteven
    bera Ho ywood Ano her asp r ng m s uden was urned down by USC S even

Spiiellberg had tto setttlle ffor Long Beach Sttatte,, butt as ffriiends wiitth Lucas and Miilliius,,
Sp e berg had o se e or Long Beach S a e bu as r ends w h Lucas and M us

Spiiellberg was hangiing around tthe campus so much he seemed tto have mattriicullatted
Sp e berg was hang ng around he campus so much he seemed o have ma r cu a ed

tthere..
  here

Those tthree became ffriiends wiitth Franciis Ford Coppolla,, who was atttendiing ffiillm schooll
Those hree became r ends w h Franc s Ford Coppo a who was a end ng m schoo
att UCLA allong wiitth ffutture Doors’’ rock llegends Jiim Morriison,, Ray Manzarek and John
a UCLA a ong w h u ure Doors rock egends J m Morr son Ray Manzarek and John
Densmore.. Togetther,, Lucas,, Miilliius,, Spiiellberg and Coppolla hattched a hare--braiined
Densmore Toge her Lucas M us Sp e berg and Coppo a ha ched a hare bra ned
scheme tto go tto Viiettnam wiitth acttors tto ffiillm a “docu--drama” iin tthe sttylle off Mediium Cooll,,
scheme o go o V e nam w h ac ors o m a “docu drama” n he s y e o Med um Coo
whiich was hallff--moviie,, hallff--ffoottage ffrom tthe 1968 Democratt Nattiionall Conventtiion iin
wh ch was ha mov e ha oo age rom he 1968 Democra Na ona Conven on n
Chiicago.. The Viiettnam iidea was niixed ((ffor some odd reason)) by tthe Penttagon,, butt
Ch cago The V e nam dea was n xed or some odd reason by he Pen agon bu
eventtuallly became Apocallypse Now,, ffeatturiing tthe haunttiing musiic off Morriison siingiing
even ua y became Apoca ypse Now ea ur ng he haun ng mus c o Morr son s ng ng
“The End..” Allll off iitt was dettaiilled iin a ffabullous 1998 Holllywood book by Petter Biiskiind
“The End ” A o was de a ed n a abu ous 1998 Ho ywood book by Pe er B sk nd
calllled Easy Riiders,, Ragiing Bulllls and iin tthe documenttary Heartts off Darkness..
ca ed Easy R ders Rag ng Bu s and n he documen ary Hear s o Darkness
The USC campus has allways been conservattiive,, ffratterniitty--oriientted and ttradiittiionall,, butt
The USC campus has a ways been conserva ve ra ern y or en ed and rad ona bu
even more so when Seaver arriived.. Thatt ffalll,, Republliican Presiidenttiiall candiidatte Barry
even more so when Seaver arr ved Tha a Repub can Pres den a cand da e Barry
Golldwatter energiized a conservattiive movementt based iin nearby Orange Countty,,
Go dwa er energ zed a conserva ve movemen based n nearby Orange Coun y
embodiied by Republliican sttudentt polliittiics att USC.. Numerous USC ((and UCLA)) graduattes
 embod ed by Repub can s uden po cs a USC Numerous USC and UCLA gradua es
made up tthe campaiign and llatter admiiniisttrattiion sttafffs off Riichard Niixon.. Among tthem
 made up he campa gn and a er adm n s ra on s a s o R chard N xon Among hem
were Wattergatte ffiigures H..R.. Halldemann,, John Erlliichman,, Dwiightt Chapiin,, and Donalld
 were Wa erga e gures H R Ha demann John Er chman Dw gh Chap n and Dona d
Segrettttii.. IIn tthe 1976 ffiillm Alll tthe Presiidentt’’s Men,, tthe Segretttii charactter ttelllls Dusttiin
 Segre            n he 1976 m A he Pres den s Men he Segre charac er e s Dus n
Hoffffman,, pllayiing Carll Bernstteiin,, aboutt tthe so--calllled “USC Maffiia” off tthatt era..
 Ho man p ay ng Car Berns e n abou he so ca ed “USC Ma a” o ha era
Wattergatte conspiirattor G.. Gordon Liiddy was receiived lliike a conqueriing hero when he
 Wa erga e consp ra or G Gordon L ddy was rece ved ke a conquer ng hero when he
ttoured ffor hiis auttobiiography Wiilll,, on campus iin 1983.. When Democratt Presiidenttiiall
   oured or h s au ob ography W on campus n 1983 When Democra Pres den a
nomiinee Walltter Mondalle campaiigned att USC iin 1984,, he was mett by tthe resoundiing
 nom nee Wa er Monda e campa gned a USC n 1984 he was me by he resound ng
chantt,, “Reagan counttry” iin ffavor off tthe iincumbentt Presiidentt.. Accordiing tto sttudentt
 chan “Reagan coun ry” n avor o he ncumben Pres den Accord ng o s uden
accountts,, conttroversiiall ffiillmmaker Miichaell Moore was booed offf sttage when he screen
 accoun s con rovers a mmaker M chae Moore was booed o s age when he screen
Fahrenheiitt 9//11 on campus,, lleadiing hiim tto sttartt weariing a UCLA cap..
 Fahrenhe 9 11 on campus ead ng h m o s ar wear ng a UCLA cap
Biillll Lee gott a ttastte off tthe sttuck--up natture off sociiall lliiffe on campus,, whiich he descriibed iin
 B Lee go a as e o he s uck up na ure o soc a e on campus wh ch he descr bed n
hiis riiottous 1984 auttobiiography,, The Wrong Sttufff.. Lee was dattiing a beauttiiffull sororiitty
 h s r o ous 1984 au ob ography The Wrong S u Lee was da ng a beau u soror y
siistter unttiill moviie sttar “Allan Ladd’’s kiid snaked her away ffrom me,,” presumablly wiitth a
 s s er un mov e s ar “A an Ladd s k d snaked her away rom me ” presumab y w h a
show off wealltth..
 show o wea h
Seaver enrolllled as a pre--denttall sttudentt,, jjoiined a ffratterniitty,, and quiicklly made ffriiends
 Seaver enro ed as a pre den a s uden o ned a ra ern y and qu ck y made r ends
wiitth Dedeaux’’s son,, Justtiin.. Hiis Mariine experiience iimmediiattelly separatted hiim ffrom tthe
 w h Dedeaux s son Jus n H s Mar ne exper ence mmed a e y separa ed h m rom he
siillly ffratt boys.. He allso beffriiended Garrettt.. Thiis arrangementt came tto symbolliize alll tthatt
 s y ra boys He a so be r ended Garre Th s arrangemen came o symbo ze a ha
iis riightteous aboutt collllege sportts.. Here was Seaver,, tthe whiitte miiddlle cllass son off an
   s r gh eous abou co ege spor s Here was Seaver he wh e m dd e c ass son o an
afffflluentt busiiness executtiive,, “prejjudiiced” whiille iin hiigh schooll,, paiired wiitth Garrettt,, tthe
 a uen bus ness execu ve “pre ud ced” wh e n h gh schoo pa red w h Garre he
bllack iinner ciitty son off a siinglle motther.. Had tthey nott been tteammattes att USC,, tthese ttwo
 b ack nner c y son o a s ng e mo her Had hey no been eamma es a USC hese wo
never woulld have ffound each otther.. IInsttead tthey became tthe bestt off ffriiends..
 never wou d have ound each o her ns ead hey became he bes o r ends
Garretttt was an iinttrospecttiive young man bound and dettermiined tto make tthe mostt off hiis
 Garre was an n rospec ve young man bound and de erm ned o make he mos o h s
opporttuniitty.. He had been an Alll--Ameriican att Roosevelltt Hiigh Schooll iin Los Angelles and
 oppor un y He had been an A Amer can a Rooseve H gh Schoo n Los Ange es and
off course made hiis name on tthe ffoottballl ffiielld,, wiinniing tthe Heiisman Trophy iin 1965 and
 o course made h s name on he oo ba e d w nn ng he He sman Trophy n 1965 and
hellpiing tthe Kansas Ciitty Chiieffs wiin tthe 1970 Super Bowll.. Eventtuallly,, he graduatted ffrom
 he p ng he Kansas C y Ch e s w n he 1970 Super Bow Even ua y he gradua ed rom
llaw schooll and became USC’’s atthllettiic diirecttor,, where he hiired tthe greatt Pette Carrolll iin
   aw schoo and became USC s a h e c d rec or where he h red he grea Pe e Carro n
2000.. Garrettt was seriious aboutt baseballl,, ttoo.. He even ttook some ttiime offf ffrom hiis NFL
 2000 Garre was ser ous abou baseba oo He even ook some me o rom h s NFL
career tto pursue tthe game iin tthe Dodgers’’ organiizattiion beffore retturniing tto tthe San
 career o pursue he game n he Dodgers organ za on be ore re urn ng o he San
Diiego Chargers iin 1971..
 D ego Chargers n 1971
“Miike was seriious aboutt tthiings,,” saiid assiisttantt USC ffoottballl coach Dave Levy.. “One
 “M ke was ser ous abou h ngs ” sa d ass s an USC oo ba coach Dave Levy “One
ttiime he and II gott iintto a biig diiscussiion and he expressed ffrusttrattiion tthatt he coulld nott rentt
    me he and go n o a b g d scuss on and he expressed rus ra on ha he cou d no ren
an aparttmentt iin Pasadena because he was bllack.. II jjustt ttolld hiim he needed tto understtand
 an apar men n Pasadena because he was b ack us o d h m he needed o unders and
tthere were whiitte ffollks off good consciience and tthatt you had tto llett peoplle change.. II had
   here were wh e o ks o good consc ence and ha you had o e peop e change had
diiscussiions wiitth bllack kiids att USC and II saiid tthey needed tto ttake advanttage off tthe
 d scuss ons w h b ack k ds a USC and sa d hey needed o ake advan age o he
educattiionall opporttuniittiies tthatt sportts proviided tthem.. Miike came tto agree wiitth me.."
 educa ona oppor un es ha spor s prov ded hem M ke came o agree w h me "
“IIff you’’d ttolld me tthatt a bllack kiid ffrom Boylle Heiightts woulld wiin tthe Heiisman Trophy,,”
 “ you d o d me ha a b ack k d rom Boy e He gh s wou d w n he He sman Trophy ”
Garretttt saiid on tthe Hiisttory off USC Foottballl DVD ((2005)),, “II’’d have jjustt saiid,, ‘‘You’’re
 Garre sa d on he H s ory o USC Foo ba DVD 2005 “ d have us sa d You re
crazy..’’ ”
 crazy ”
Seaver and Garrettt were botth iinttenselly dediicatted.. They worked outt ttogetther.. Justtiin
 Seaver and Garre were bo h n ense y ded ca ed They worked ou oge her Jus n
Dedeaux was amazed tthatt Seaver coulld keep up wiitth Garrettt sttriide--ffor--sttriide runniing
 Dedeaux was amazed ha Seaver cou d keep up w h Garre s r de or s r de runn ng
wiind spriintts.. The Garrettt--Seaver rellattiionshiip allso diirecttlly marks tthe begiinniing off a
 w nd spr n s The Garre Seaver re a onsh p a so d rec y marks he beg nn ng o a
revolluttiion iin sportts ttraiiniing,, wiitth proffound consequences.. Baseballl pllayers were ttolld nott
 revo u on n spor s ra n ng w h pro ound consequences Baseba p ayers were o d no
tto lliifftt weiightts;; tthatt tto do so woulld “ttiie up” ttheiir musclles,, makiing tthem unablle tto tthrow
   o         we gh s ha o do so wou d “ e up” he r musc es mak ng hem unab e o hrow
and swiing tthe batt.. Butt Seaver had seen how much bettter he had gottten when he gott
 and sw ng he ba Bu Seaver had seen how much be er he had go en when he go
sttronger lliiffttiing boxes and llatter doiing push--ups,, pulll--ups and riifflle exerciises iin tthe
 s ronger            ng boxes and a er do ng push ups pu ups and r e exerc ses n he
Mariines..
 Mar nes
Jerry Merz,, a ffriiend off Seaver’’s who sttudiied physiicall educattiion,, recommended tthatt
 Jerry Merz a r end o Seaver s who s ud ed phys ca educa on recommended ha
Seaver lliifftt weiightts tto iincrease hiis sttrengtth.. Garrettt lliifftted weiightts ffor ffoottballl and Seaver
 Seaver          we gh s o ncrease h s s reng h Garre                      ed we gh s or oo ba and Seaver
asked hiim tto hellp sttartt a regiimen,, whiich he diid.. Seaver’’s sttocky body responded tto
 asked h m o he p s ar a reg men wh ch he d d Seaver s s ocky body responded o
weiightt ttraiiniing,, wiitth iimmediiatte good resulltts on tthe ffiielld.. He woulld ttake hiis weiightt
 we gh ra n ng w h mmed a e good resu s on he e d He wou d ake h s we gh
ttraiiniing routtiine wiitth hiim iintto proffessiionall baseballl,, iinfflluenciing a change iin tthe
  ra n ng rou ne w h h m n o pro ess ona baseba n uenc ng a change n he
percepttiion off weiightts iin tthe 1970s.. Over ttiime,, alll baseballll pllayers woulld bullk up on
 percep on o we gh s n he 1970s Over me a baseba p ayers wou d bu k up on
weiightts,, and eventtuallly tthiis lled tto tthe rampantt use off stteroiids..
 we gh s and even ua y h s ed o he rampan use o s ero ds
Seaver’’s casuall,, open rellattiionshiip wiitth Garrettt was an eye--opener ffor hiim.. Despiitte
 Seaver s casua open re a onsh p w h Garre was an eye opener or h m Desp e
iidolliiziing Henry Aaron ffrom a young age,, he had mett ffew bllacks.. He had adoptted tthe
  do z ng Henry Aaron rom a young age he had me ew b acks He had adop ed he
counttry cllub raciism acceptted by whiittes off tthatt era,, probablly wiitthoutt ffullly realliiziing iitt..
 coun ry c ub rac sm accep ed by wh es o ha era probab y w hou u y rea z ng
Charlles “Tree” Young was a bllack ttrack,, baskettballl and ffoottballl sttar att Ediison Hiigh
 Char es “Tree” Young was a b ack rack baske ba and oo ba s ar a Ed son H gh
Schooll iin Fresno a ffew years afftter Seaver came outt off Fresno Hiigh.. He became an
 Schoo n Fresno a ew years a er Seaver came ou o Fresno H gh He became an
Alll--Ameriican ttiightt end on tthe 1972 USC ffoottballl tteam generallly consiidered tthe greattestt
 A Amer can gh end on he 1972 USC oo ba eam genera y cons dered he grea es
iin hiisttory;; llatter a sttar wiitth tthe 1981 Worlld Champiion San Franciisco 49ers beffore
  n h s ory a er a s ar w h he 1981 Wor d Champ on San Franc sco 49ers be ore
entteriing tthe Chriisttiian miiniisttry..
 en er ng he Chr s an m n s ry
“II mostt certtaiinlly knew alll aboutt Tom Seaver,,” Young saiid.. “He was ffrom Fresno,, had
 “ mos cer a n y knew a abou Tom Seaver ” Young sa d “He was rom Fresno had
sttarred att USC,, and made good wiitth tthe New York Metts.. Butt tthe Fresno off tthe 1960s was
 s arred a USC and made good w h he New York Me s Bu he Fresno o he 1960s was
a pllace where you needed tto know your pllace..”
 a p ace where you needed o know your p ace ”
Young lliived iin tthe “bllack secttiion” off Fresno.. IItt was nott a segregatted sociietty,, certtaiinlly
 Young ved n he “b ack sec on” o Fresno was no a segrega ed soc e y cer a n y
nott lliike tthe Soutth.. Ediison Hiigh was iinttegratted and Young a popullar sttudentt--atthllette..
 no ke he Sou h Ed son H gh was n egra ed and Young a popu ar s uden a h e e
“IIff you are good iin atthllettiics,, you can go pllaces and do tthiings unavaiillablle tto otthers,,”
 “ you are good n a h e cs you can go p aces and do h ngs unava ab e o o hers ”
Young saiid.. “When II arriived att USC,, my ffiirstt questtiion was,, Where’’s tthe bllacks? II
 Young sa d “When arr ved a USC my rs ques on was Where s he b acks?
quiicklly diiscerned tthatt tthere was doublle meaniing iin tthe tterm Soutthern Calliifforniia.. Butt
 qu ck y d scerned ha here was doub e mean ng n he erm Sou hern Ca orn a Bu
tthrough sportts,, bllack bretthren and whiitte bretthren became one.. IItt ttook some doiing,, and
  hrough spor s b ack bre hren and wh e bre hren became one                               ook some do ng and
on our ffoottballl iitt diid nott happen overniightt..”
 on our oo ba             d d no happen overn gh ”
Young was a member off tthe 1970 USC ffoottballll tteam tthatt ttravelled tto Biirmiingham and,,
 Young was a member o he 1970 USC oo ba eam ha rave ed o B rm ngham and
behiind runniing back Sam “Bam” Cunniingham deffeatted Allabama,, tthus efffecttuattiing greatt
 beh nd runn ng back Sam “Bam” Cunn ngham de ea ed A abama hus e ec ua ng grea
raciiall change iin tthe Soutth.. The Trojjan tteam he pllayed on,, iironiicallly,, was raciiallly
 rac a change n he Sou h The Tro an eam he p ayed on ron ca y was rac a y
diiviided as a resulltt off tthe pllayiing off bllack quartterback Jiimmy Jones over whiitte hottshott
 d v ded as a resu o he p ay ng o b ack quar erback J mmy Jones over wh e ho sho
Miike Rae..
 M ke Rae
Young,, a sttrong Chriisttiian,, hellped organiize ffelllowshiip meettiings iin order tto briing tthe
 Young a s rong Chr s an he ped organ ze e owsh p mee ngs n order o br ng he
tteam ttogetther,, agaiinstt some resiisttance.. Afftter a “reviivall” meettiing iin 1971,, tthe 2--4
  eam oge her aga ns some res s ance A er a “rev va ” mee ng n 1971 he 2 4
Trojjans ttravelled tto Soutth Bend and beatt 6--0 Nottre Dame.. Thatt tteam never llostt agaiin,,
 Tro ans rave ed o Sou h Bend and bea 6 0 No re Dame Tha eam never os aga n
goiing on tto an unbeatten Nattiionall Champiionshiip tthe nextt year..
 go ng on o an unbea en Na ona Champ onsh p he nex year
The natture off USC -- iitts conservattiism and ttradiittiions – has been crediitted by tthose who
 The na ure o USC s conserva sm and rad ons – has been cred ed by hose who
were tthere att tthe ttiime wiitth alllowiing such a tthiing tto ffreelly occur.. By conttrastt,, sociiall
 were here a he me w h a ow ng such a h ng o ree y occur By con ras soc a
angstt and war prottestts domiinatted lliiffe att riivall campuses Call--Berkelley and Sttanfford..
 angs and war pro es s dom na ed e a r va campuses Ca Berke ey and S an ord
Accordiing tto John McKay,, tthe supposedlly “enlliighttened” Sttanfford sttudentt body diirectted
 Accord ng o John McKay he supposed y “en gh ened” S an ord s uden body d rec ed
“tthe mostt viille,, ffoull raciiall epiitthetts II ever heard” att hiis tteam,, one iin whiich McKay had
 “ he mos v e ou rac a ep he s ever heard” a h s eam one n wh ch McKay had
“proviided more and greatter opporttuniittiies ffor bllack atthllettes tthan any iin tthe nattiion,,”
 “prov ded more and grea er oppor un es or b ack a h e es han any n he na on ”
when tthey made ttheiir way ontto tthe Sttanfford Sttadiium ffiielld..
 when hey made he r way on o he S an ord S ad um e d
A ffew years priior tto tthatt,, Tom Seaver broughtt a certtaiin amountt off whiitte conservattiism
 A ew years pr or o ha Tom Seaver brough a cer a n amoun o wh e conserva sm
wiitth hiim.. Afftter alll,, hiis ffatther ran a llarge company and he had never been exposed tto
 w h h m A er a h s a her ran a arge company and he had never been exposed o
radiicall polliittiics.. Butt USC was a pllace where iideas coulld ffllow more easiilly tthan att a
 rad ca po cs Bu USC was a p ace where deas cou d ow more eas y han a a
segregatted Soutthern campus,, yett be ttempered by tthe kiind respectt ffor ttradiittiion tthatt
 segrega ed Sou hern campus ye be empered by he k nd respec or rad on ha
seemed tto have been llostt att Berkelley.. The Call campus was alllowiing iittsellff tto become tthe
 seemed o have been os a Berke ey The Ca campus was a ow ng se o become he
de ffactto sttagiing grounds off Ameriican Communiism iin tthe 1960s..
 de ac o s ag ng grounds o Amer can Commun sm n he 1960s
IIn tthe hiierarchy off Trojjan sportts,, Miike Garretttt ttowered above a jjuniior collllege baseballll
   n he h erarchy o Tro an spor s M ke Garre owered above a un or co ege baseba
ttransffer lliike Seaver.. Butt as tteammattes tthey graviittatted tto each otther,, ffiindiing ttheiir
   rans er ke Seaver Bu as eamma es hey grav a ed o each o her nd ng he r
siimiillariittiies more compellliing tthan ttheiir diiffferences.. Garrettt was consiidered undersiized,,
 s m ar es more compe ng han he r d erences Garre was cons dered unders zed
and Seaver – att lleastt unttiill hiis recentt growtth spurtt – had allways iidenttiiffiied hiimsellff as “tthe
 and Seaver – a eas un h s recen grow h spur – had a ways den ed h mse as “ he
runtt off our crowd,,” as Diick Sellma putt iitt.. He ffelltt onlly admiirattiion ffor Miike,, who fforged
 run o our crowd ” as D ck Se ma pu                        He e on y adm ra on or M ke who orged
success ffor hiimsellff wiitthoutt tthe kiinds off physiicall giifftts off a llatter Trojjan supersttar,, O..J..
 success or h mse w hou he k nds o phys ca g s o a a er Tro an supers ar O J
Siimpson..
 S mpson
IIn 1965,, Seaver worked hard tto make iitt ontto USC’’s sttarttiing rottattiion.. Oddlly,, iitt was a
   n 1965 Seaver worked hard o make on o USC s s ar ng ro a on Odd y was a
down year ffor tthe Trojjans,, who ffiiniished 9--11,, iin ffourtth pllace behiind confference
 down year or he Tro ans who n shed 9 11 n our h p ace beh nd con erence
co--champiions Sttanfford and Calliifforniia,, and one game back off cross--ttown riivall UCLA..
 co champ ons S an ord and Ca orn a and one game back o cross own r va UCLA
Butt Seaver was excellllentt,, wiinniing 10 games agaiinstt onlly ttwo deffeatts wiitth a 2..47 earned
 Bu Seaver was exce en w nn ng 10 games aga ns on y wo de ea s w h a 2 47 earned
run average,, esttablliishiing hiimsellff as tthe undiisputted sttafff ace.. He was named tto tthe
 run average es ab sh ng h mse as he und spu ed s a ace He was named o he
allll--confference tteam allong wiitth Garrettt and Justtiin Dedeaux.. A majjor boostt iin hiis
 a con erence eam a ong w h Garre and Jus n Dedeaux A ma or boos n h s
conffiidence came iin an allumnii game when Seaver gott Dodgers ffiirstt baseman Ron Faiirlly,,
 con dence came n an a umn game when Seaver go Dodgers rs baseman Ron Fa r y
a fformer Trojjan,, tto pop up on a slliider.. As Faiirlly ran pastt Seaver on tthe mound he saiid,,
 a ormer Tro an o pop up on a s der As Fa r y ran pas Seaver on he mound he sa d
“Pretttty good piittch,, kiid..” Seaver had rettiired a biig lleague hiitttter,, and alllowed hiimsellff tto
 “Pre y good p ch k d ” Seaver had re red a b g eague h er and a owed h mse o
dream biig lleague dreams ((tthree years llatter iin tthe Majjor Leagues,, Faiirlly connectted on a
 dream b g eague dreams hree years a er n he Ma or Leagues Fa r y connec ed on a
Seaver slliider ffor a home run))..
 Seaver s der or a home run
IIn June 1965,, tthe very ffiirstt Majjor League drafftt was helld.. Riick Monday,, an Alll--Ameriican
   n June 1965 he very rs Ma or League dra was he d R ck Monday an A Amer can
outtffiiellder ffor Nattiionall Champiion Ariizona Sttatte,, was tthe number one piick.. Because he
 ou e der or Na ona Champ on Ar zona S a e was he number one p ck Because he
had nott gone iintto tthe Mariines hiis ffiirstt year afftter hiigh schooll,, tthe sophomore Seaver’’s
 had no gone n o he Mar nes h s rs year a er h gh schoo he sophomore Seaver s
collllege cllass was iin iitts tthiird year,, makiing hiim elliigiiblle ffor tthe drafftt.. Allready,, tthe sttrattegy
 co ege c ass was n s h rd year mak ng h m e g b e or he dra A ready he s ra egy
behiind obttaiiniing maxiimum siigniing bonuses meantt tthatt colllege jjuniiors woulld gett more,,
 beh nd ob a n ng max mum s gn ng bonuses mean ha co ege un ors wou d ge more
siince tthey had tthe bargaiiniing lleverage off retturniing ffor ttheiir seniior year.. A graduatted
 s nce hey had he barga n ng everage o re urn ng or he r sen or year A gradua ed
seniior had tto ttake whattever was offfered hiim or go home,, hiis elliigiibiilliitty gone..
 sen or had o ake wha ever was o ered h m or go home h s e g b y gone
Hiis ffavoriitte tteam,, tthe Los Angelles Dodgers,, drafftted Seaver.. He and hiis USC palls
 H s avor e eam he Los Ange es Dodgers dra ed Seaver He and h s USC pa s
regullarlly wentt tto nearby Dodger Sttadiium on hiis unclle’’s ttiicketts tto wattch tthe greatt Sandy
 regu ar y wen o nearby Dodger S ad um on h s unc e s cke s o wa ch he grea Sandy
Kouffax piittch.. Scoutt Tom Lasorda came around tto negottiiatte.. IIff Seaver had llacked any
 Kou ax p ch Scou Tom Lasorda came around o nego a e Seaver had acked any
conffiidence beffore,, makiing Alll--Ameriican att tthe Nattiionall Baseballl Congress,, rettiiriing
 con dence be ore mak ng A Amer can a he Na ona Baseba Congress re r ng
Faiirlly,, and compiilliing a 10--2 mark ffor Troy ttook care off tthatt.. Lasorda offfered $2,,000..
 Fa r y and comp ng a 10 2 mark or Troy ook care o ha Lasorda o ered $2 000
Seaver came back wiitth $50,,000,, arguiing tthatt Sellma had receiived $20,,000 ffrom tthe Metts
 Seaver came back w h $50 000 argu ng ha Se ma had rece ved $20 000 rom he Me s
outt off jjuniior colllege and he was a seasoned Trojjan sttar.. Lasorda came up tto $3,,000,, butt
 ou o un or co ege and he was a seasoned Tro an s ar Lasorda came up o $3 000 bu
tthatt was tthatt.. The ttanttalliiziing possiibiilliitty off Tom Seaver fforgiing a career on tthe greatt
   ha was ha The an a z ng poss b y o Tom Seaver org ng a career on he grea
Dodgers tteams off tthe 1970s woulld be onlly tthatt,, ttanttalliiziing..
 Dodgers eams o he 1970s wou d be on y ha an a z ng
“Good lluck iin your denttall career,,” Lasorda ttolld hiim..
 “Good uck n your den a career ” Lasorda o d h m
IItt was a reall--worlld busiiness llesson Seaver was nott goiing tto llearn iin any economiics cllass..
     was a rea wor d bus ness esson Seaver was no go ng o earn n any econom cs c ass
IItt allso meantt a retturn tto Faiirbanks iin tthe summer off 1965.. Thiis ttiime Seaver diid nott
     a so mean a re urn o Fa rbanks n he summer o 1965 Th s me Seaver d d no
arriive iin Allaska as an unknown,, dressiing iin a shack and iinttroduciing hiimsellff tto hiis
 arr ve n A aska as an unknown dress ng n a shack and n roduc ng h mse o h s
cattcher on tthe mound.. There was sense off hiierarchy on tthe Golldpanners,, and tthe ace
 ca cher on he mound There was sense o h erarchy on he Go dpanners and he ace
piittcher att tthe Uniiversiitty off Soutthern Calliifforniia was ttops on tthatt hiierarchy.. IItt was as
 p cher a he Un vers y o Sou hern Ca orn a was ops on ha h erarchy was as
ttallentted a tteam as any iin tthe counttry,, tthe “alll--sttar” conceptt off piickiing tthe bestt
   a en ed a eam as any n he coun ry he “a s ar” concep o p ck ng he bes
collllegiians ffrom around tthe nattiion makiing tthe Golldpanners bettter tthan mostt colllege
 co eg ans rom around he na on mak ng he Go dpanners be er han mos co ege
tteams and probablly betttter tthan a llott off miinor lleague cllubs..
   eams and probab y be er han a o o m nor eague c ubs
The “piittchiing sttaffff was so deep and ttallentted – Andy Messersmiitth,, All Schmellz,, Danny
 The “p ch ng s a was so deep and a en ed – Andy Messersm h A Schme z Danny
Friisellla and II were tthe sttartters .. .. ..” recallled Seaver.. As can happen when a young
 Fr se a and were he s ar ers                   ” reca ed Seaver As can happen when a young
atthllette achiieves success,, a sense off overconffiidence – some calll iitt “seniioriittiis” – can
 a h e e ach eves success a sense o overcon dence – some ca                          “sen or s” – can
effffectt hiis perfformance and offtten requiires some “negattiive ffeedback” iin order tto riightt tthe
 e ec h s per ormance and o en requ res some “nega ve eedback” n order o r gh he
ttiillttiing shiip.. The Golldpanners agaiin made iitt tto tthe NBC iin Wiichiitta,, butt tthe plletthora off
          ng sh p The Go dpanners aga n made o he NBC n W ch a bu he p e hora o
ttallentted piittchers,, alll vyiing ffor mound ttiime tto gaiin experiience,, sttrengtthen ttheiir colllege
   a en ed p chers a vy ng or mound me o ga n exper ence s reng hen he r co ege
resumes,, and off course gett viisiibiilliitty ffor tthe scoutts,, meantt tthatt Seaver’’s ttoughestt
 resumes and o course ge v s b y or he scou s mean ha Seaver s oughes
compettiittiion came on hiis own tteam.. IIn Wiichiitta,, “II had a chance tto wiin onlly one game
 compe on came on h s own eam n W ch a “ had a chance o w n on y one game
beffore we reached tthe semii--ffiinalls” agaiinstt tthe Wiichiitta Dreamlliiners..
 be ore we reached he sem na s” aga ns he W ch a Dream ners
A biig crowd and llotts off scoutts came outt ffor a balllyhooed mattch--up bettween tthe hottshott
 A b g crowd and o s o scou s came ou or a ba yhooed ma ch up be ween he ho sho
Trojjan hurller and a semii--pro outtffiitt consiisttiing off ffour recentt biig lleague perfformers;;
 Tro an hur er and a sem pro ou cons s ng o our recen b g eague per ormers
Bobby Boyd,, Jiim Pendlletton,, Charlliie Neall and Rod Kanehll.. Neall and Kanehll had pllayed
 Bobby Boyd J m Pend e on Char e Nea and Rod Kaneh Nea and Kaneh had p ayed
ffor tthe New York Metts.. Neall lled offf tthe game wiitth a ttriiplle,, Boyd added tthree hiitts,, and
   or he New York Me s Nea ed o he game w h a r p e Boyd added hree h s and
Kanehll sttolle home as tthe Dreamlliiners deffeatted Seaver,, 6--3.. Seaver probablly coulld have
 Kaneh s o e home as he Dream ners de ea ed Seaver 6 3 Seaver probab y cou d have
piittched around some off tthe ex--biig lleaguers butt challlenged tthem iinsttead,, payiing tthe
 p ched around some o he ex b g eaguers bu cha enged hem ns ead pay ng he
priice.. He hatted wallkiing hiittters even iiff iitt meantt giiviing tthem a piittch tthey coulld hiitt.. Afftter
 pr ce He ha ed wa k ng h ers even                    mean g v ng hem a p ch hey cou d h A er
gettttiing knocked ffrom tthe mound,, Boyd approached hiim..
 ge ng knocked rom he mound Boyd approached h m
“Kiid,, you gott a greatt ffutture ahead off you,,” he ttolld hiim.. “You’’re goiing tto be a biig lleague
 “K d you go a grea u ure ahead o you ” he o d h m “You re go ng o be a b g eague
piittcher..”
 p cher ”
Seaver ffelltt tthe vetteran was mockiing hiim.. Thatt niightt,, Tom and some tteammattes wentt outt
 Seaver e he ve eran was mock ng h m Tha n gh Tom and some eamma es wen ou
ffor beers.. Kanehll jjoiined tthem,, repeattiing whatt Boyd had saiid.. Faiirlly had expressed
   or beers Kaneh o ned hem repea ng wha Boyd had sa d Fa r y had expressed
admiirattiion ffor hiis abiilliitty,, ttoo..
 adm ra on or h s ab y oo
Maybe tthey’’re riightt..
 Maybe hey re r gh
Schmellz and Friiselllla botth siigned wiitth tthe Metts iinsttead off retturniing tto schooll.. Seaver
 Schme z and Fr se a bo h s gned w h he Me s ns ead o re urn ng o schoo Seaver
came back tto Soutthern Call and iimmediiattelly nottiiced a bevy off scoutts att tthe “ffalll balll”
 came back o Sou hern Ca and mmed a e y no ced a bevy o scou s a he “ a ba ”
games.. He attttended a number off Dodger games tthatt Septtember,, ffocusiing on Kouffax as he
 games He a ended a number o Dodger games ha Sep ember ocus ng on Kou ax as he
piittched hiis tteam tto tthe Worlld Champiionshiip.. The consensus among tthe scoutts was tthatt
 p ched h s eam o he Wor d Champ onsh p The consensus among he scou s was ha
Seaver was one off tthe ttop young prospectts iin amatteur baseballl,, and tthatt tthe Dodgers had
 Seaver was one o he op young prospec s n ama eur baseba and ha he Dodgers had
bllown iitt by nott siigniing hiim iin tthe summer..
 b own by no s gn ng h m n he summer
Whiille Seaver’’s baseballl ffutture was devellopiing,, so ttoo was hiis personall ffutture.. IIn 1964
 Wh e Seaver s baseba u ure was deve op ng so oo was h s persona u ure n 1964
he satt iin a cllass att Fresno Ciitty Colllege a ffew seatts away ffrom a prettty bllond named
 he sa n a c ass a Fresno C y Co ege a ew sea s away rom a pre y b ond named
Nancy Lynn McIInttyre.. Hiis smootth reparttee and way wiitth tthe giirlls desertted hiim,, and he
 Nancy Lynn Mc n yre H s smoo h repar ee and way w h he g r s deser ed h m and he
never saiid “ttwo words tto her tthe enttiire semestter..”
 never sa d “ wo words o her he en re semes er ”
Att tthe end off tthe spriing semestter beffore headiing nortth tto Allaska,, Seaver and some palls
 A he end o he spr ng semes er be ore head ng nor h o A aska Seaver and some pa s
bllew offff stteam driinkiing beers and pllayiing soffttballl when he spottted her.. IImpullsiivelly he
 b ew o s eam dr nk ng beers and p ay ng so ba when he spo ed her mpu s ve y he
ran ttowards her and,, iin whatt had tto be one off tthe mostt awkward “ffiirstt dattes” iin hiisttory,,
 ran owards her and n wha had o be one o he mos awkward “ rs da es” n h s ory
was unablle tto sttop hiimsellff,, ran iintto her,, knockiing her ffllatt.. He tthen piicked her up and
 was unab e o s op h mse ran n o her knock ng her a He hen p cked her up and
asked iiff she wantted tto go tto a soffttballl game..
 asked she wan ed o go o a so ba game
“No,,” she replliied..
 “No ” she rep ed
Seaver tthen,, ffor alll practtiicall purposes,, kiidnapped her.. She endured tthe soffttballl game and
 Seaver hen or a prac ca purposes k dnapped her She endured he so ba game and
agreed tto a second “datte” iiff iitt woulld be lless viiollentt.. Over tthe nextt year and a hallff,, tthe
 agreed o a second “da e”                    wou d be ess v o en Over he nex year and a ha he
rellattiionshiip ffaced challlenges wiitth Nancy iin Fresno,, Tom iin Allaska ffor ttwo summers and
 re a onsh p aced cha enges w h Nancy n Fresno Tom n A aska or wo summers and
iin Los Angelles goiing tto schooll.. She occasiionallly came tto viisiitt.. He saw her on vacattiions
   n Los Ange es go ng o schoo She occas ona y came o v s He saw her on vaca ons
back tto Fresno.. Theiir casuall agreementt was tthatt tthey woulld see otther peoplle.. IIn Los
 back o Fresno The r casua agreemen was ha hey wou d see o her peop e n Los
Angelles,, Tom knew tthatt a prettty giirll lliike Nancy woulld have no ttroublle ffiindiing a guy.. He
 Ange es Tom knew ha a pre y g r ke Nancy wou d have no roub e nd ng a guy He
had allways been popullar wiitth giirlls.. Diick Sellma expressed amazementt att how,, despiitte
 had a ways been popu ar w h g r s D ck Se ma expressed amazemen a how desp e
beiing a JV piittcher,, he datted alll tthe bestt--llookiing giirlls iin hiigh schooll..
 be ng a JV p cher he da ed a he bes ook ng g r s n h gh schoo
Now he was a “biig man on campus,,” bestt ffriiends off tthe Heiisman Trophy wiinner,, sttar off
 Now he was a “b g man on campus ” bes r ends o he He sman Trophy w nner s ar o
tthe baseballll tteam,, rumored tto be a bonus baby when tthe drafftt came around.. Giirlls att
   he baseba eam rumored o be a bonus baby when he dra came around G r s a
USC were pllenttiiffull and he datted hiis share off tthem.. Perhaps hiis Mariine experiience,, or
 USC were p en u and he da ed h s share o hem Perhaps h s Mar ne exper ence or
tthe up--and--down natture off baseballll,, had mattured hiim beyond hiis years,, butt ffor whattever
   he up and down na ure o baseba had ma ured h m beyond h s years bu or wha ever
reason he diid nott wantt tto “pllay tthe ffiielld” anymore.. He and Nancy agreed tto be
 reason he d d no wan o “p ay he e d” anymore He and Nancy agreed o be
excllusiive,, and afftter some iiniittiiall diifffiicullttiies botth realliized tthatt tthey wantted marriiage,, a
 exc us ve and a er some n a d cu es bo h rea zed ha hey wan ed marr age a
ffamiilly and sttabiilliitty..
   am y and s ab y
“Nancy and II,,” he wrotte iin The Perffectt Game,, “seemed .. .. .. tto realliize att tthe same ttiime
 “Nancy and ” he wro e n The Per ec Game “seemed                                      o rea ze a he same me
tthatt lliiffe wasn’’tt aboutt allll parttiies,, tthatt we coulld be seriious aboutt oursellves and aboutt
   ha e wasn abou a par es ha we cou d be ser ous abou ourse ves and abou
otther tthiings wiitthoutt beiing prettenttiious or somber..” They botth wantted tto “lliive iin a reall
 o her h ngs w hou be ng pre en ous or somber ” They bo h wan ed o “ ve n a rea
worlld..”
 wor d ”
They deciided tto marry,, and more iimporttanttlly,, never tto hurtt each otther;; easiier saiid tthan
 They dec ded o marry and more mpor an y never o hur each o her eas er sa d han
done.. Tom’’s prospectts were certtaiinlly excelllentt.. IIff baseballl diid nott pan outt,, he woulld
 done Tom s prospec s were cer a n y exce en                           baseba d d no pan ou he wou d
have a USC degree,, ffolllowed by denttall schooll and a niice practtiice back iin Fresno.. The
 have a USC degree o owed by den a schoo and a n ce prac ce back n Fresno The
onlly ffriiendlly glliittch iin tthe rellattiionshiip was tthe ffactt tthatt Nancy’’s ffatther argued tthe meriitts
 on y r end y g ch n he re a onsh p was he ac ha Nancy s a her argued he mer s
off Nottre Dame ffoottballll whiille Tom supportted hiis Trojjans.. The Tom--Nancy parttnershiip
 o No re Dame oo ba wh e Tom suppor ed h s Tro ans The Tom Nancy par nersh p
woulld prove tto be a remarkablle llove sttory..
 wou d prove o be a remarkab e ove s ory
IIn January,, 1966 a wiintter drafftt was helld.. Because off whatt eventtuallly happened tto Tom
    n January 1966 a w n er dra was he d Because o wha even ua y happened o Tom
Seaver,, tthe rulles off tthe wiintter drafftt were llatter changed,, butt despiitte beiing iin schooll he
 Seaver he ru es o he w n er dra were a er changed bu desp e be ng n schoo he
was sellectted number one by tthe Miillwaukee Braves,, who were tthatt year iin tthe process off
 was se ec ed number one by he M waukee Braves who were ha year n he process o
moviing tto Attllantta.. Braves’’ scoutt Johnny Moore,, who had seen ‘‘em alll iin Fresno,, arriived
 mov ng o A an a Braves scou Johnny Moore who had seen em a n Fresno arr ved
att tthe Seaver householld iin a Cadiilllac.. When he llefftt Tom was $51,,500 riicher.. He was a
 a he Seaver househo d n a Cad ac When he e Tom was $51 500 r cher He was a
hott young prospectt ttiicketted ffor tthe biig lleagues,, where hiis tteammatte woulld be tthe greatt
 ho young prospec cke ed or he b g eagues where h s eamma e wou d be he grea
Henry Aaron!!
 Henry Aaron
No sooner diid he siign wiitth tthe Braves tthan he diiscovered tthe conttractt was iinvalliid.. USC
 No sooner d d he s gn w h he Braves han he d scovered he con rac was nva d USC
had pllayed a ffew earlly season games.. A pllayer coulld onlly siign priior tto tthe pllayiing off
 had p ayed a ew ear y season games A p ayer cou d on y s gn pr or o he p ay ng o
games on tthe spriing schedulle,, and tthe Trojjans allways gott offf tto an earlly sttartt.. Seaver
 games on he spr ng schedu e and he Tro ans a ways go o o an ear y s ar Seaver
woulld have tto waiitt unttiill tthe June drafftt,, butt he was nott diisappoiintted.. He woulld piittch ffor
 wou d have o wa un he June dra bu he was no d sappo n ed He wou d p ch or
Soutthern Call.. Then tthe NCAA decllared he was iinelliigiiblle siince he had siigned a pro
 Sou hern Ca Then he NCAA dec ared he was ne g b e s nce he had s gned a pro
conttractt.. He was lliike Ko--Ko iin The Miikado,, caughtt iin tthe miiddlle off a “pretttty sttatte off
 con rac He was ke Ko Ko n The M kado caugh n he m dd e o a “pre y s a e o
tthiings,,” wrotte hiis biiographer,, John Devaney..
   h ngs ” wro e h s b ographer John Devaney
Fiinalllly,, tthe Commiissiioner’’s offfiice gott iinvollved.. IItt was deciided tthatt a “llotttery” woulld be
 F na y he Comm ss oner s o ce go nvo ved was dec ded ha a “ o ery” wou d be
helld.. Any tteam wiillliing tto mattch tthe Braves’’ offfer coulld entter iitt.. Three tteams –
 he d Any eam w ng o ma ch he Braves o er cou d en er Three eams –
Phiilladellphiia,, Cllevelland and tthe New York Metts – diid jjustt tthatt.. The Dodgers wantted iin,,
 Ph ade ph a C eve and and he New York Me s – d d us ha The Dodgers wan ed n
ttoo,, butt generall manager Buzziie Bavasii was so consumed iin conttractt ttallks wiitth Sandy
   oo bu genera manager Buzz e Bavas was so consumed n con rac a ks w h Sandy
Kouffax and Don Drysdalle,, botth holldoutts tthatt spriing,, tthatt he fforgott tto gett tthe tteam’’s
 Kou ax and Don Drysda e bo h ho dou s ha spr ng ha he orgo o ge he eam s
name iin.. For tthe second ttiime,, tthe Dodgers passed up a chance tto gett Tom Seaver..
 name n For he second me he Dodgers passed up a chance o ge Tom Seaver
The Metts were sellectted and Seaver reportted tto Homesttead,, Flloriida,, where ttheiir miinor
 The Me s were se ec ed and Seaver repor ed o Homes ead F or da where he r m nor
lleaguers were welll underway ffor Spriing Traiiniing.. The experiience was exttraordiinary ffor
   eaguers were we underway or Spr ng Tra n ng The exper ence was ex raord nary or
hiim.. Four years earlliier,, he had been lless tthan a “suspectt”;; a warehouse “sweatt box”
 h m Four years ear er he had been ess han a “suspec ” a warehouse “swea box”
lliifftter and a llowlly Mariine recruiitt wiitth driilll iinsttructtors screamiing iin hiis fface.. Year by year
        er and a ow y Mar ne recru w h dr ns ruc ors scream ng n h s ace Year by year
tthiings had gottten betttter ffor hiim:: jjuniior colllege ace,, proviing hiimsellff wiitth tthe Allaska
   h ngs had go en be er or h m un or co ege ace prov ng h mse w h he A aska
Golldpanners,, “biig man on campus” att USC;; now a bonus baby;; and a ffew montths llatter,,
 Go dpanners “b g man on campus” a USC now a bonus baby and a ew mon hs a er
marriied tto tthe beauttiiffull Nancy Lynn McIInttrye..
 marr ed o he beau u Nancy Lynn Mc n rye
The guy who coulld nott make tthe Fresno Hiigh varsiitty unttiill hiis seniior year ffound hiimsellff
 The guy who cou d no make he Fresno H gh vars y un h s sen or year ound h mse
ttraiilled by curiious gllances and murmurs att Homesttead.. “Thatt’’s tthe guy ffrom USC..”
   ra ed by cur ous g ances and murmurs a Homes ead “Tha s he guy rom USC ”
“Thatt’’s Seaver,, tthey paiid hiim over 50 grand..” Bud Harrellson,, Jerry Koosman and
 “Tha s Seaver hey pa d h m over 50 grand ” Bud Harre son Jerry Koosman and
Nollan Ryan were alll iin camp,, butt Seaver was siinglled outt ffor tthe speciiall ttreattmentt
 No an Ryan were a n camp bu Seaver was s ng ed ou or he spec a rea men
accorded tto tthe mostt iimporttantt prospectts.. IItt was diizzyiing,, butt Seaver had “cllass”
 accorded o he mos mpor an prospec s was d zzy ng bu Seaver had “c ass”
accordiing tto Harrellson,, who saiid tthatt despiitte hiis pllace att tthe ttop off tthe ttottem polle,, tthe
 accord ng o Harre son who sa d ha desp e h s p ace a he op o he o em po e he
bonus baby diid nott putt on aiirs or ttry tto show anybody up..
 bonus baby d d no pu on a rs or ry o show anybody up
Mostt pllayers sttartt outt att cllass A ballll and have tto ffiightt ffor years tto move up tthe lladder..
 Mos p ayers s ar ou a c ass A ba and have o gh or years o move up he adder
The combiinattiion off Seaver’’s colllege record,, bonus money and tthe tteam’’s llack off success
 The comb na on o Seaver s co ege record bonus money and he eam s ack o success
meantt tthatt he sttartted att ttriiplle--A Jacksonviillle,, Flloriida.. Manager Sollly Hemus,, who had
 mean ha he s ar ed a r p e A Jacksonv e F or da Manager So y Hemus who had
seen a ffew iin hiis llong baseballll career,, decllared hiim,, “tthe bestt piittchiing prospectt tthe Metts
 seen a ew n h s ong baseba career dec ared h m “ he bes p ch ng prospec he Me s
have ever siigned,,” and tthen paiid hiim tthe ullttiimatte complliimentt:: “Seaver has a
 have ever s gned ” and hen pa d h m he u ma e comp men “Seaver has a
35--year--olld head on ttop off a 21--year--olld body.. Usuallly,, we gett a 35--year--olld arm
 35 year o d head on op o a 21 year o d body Usua y we ge a 35 year o d arm
attttached tto a 21--year--olld head..”
 a ached o a 21 year o d head ”
Seaver was tteammattes wiitth Diick Sellma att Jacksonviillle.. IImmediiattelly he had success and
 Seaver was eamma es w h D ck Se ma a Jacksonv e mmed a e y he had success and
was ttiicketted as a “can’’tt miiss” prospectt who woulld be iin tthe Majjor Leagues soon,, maybe
 was cke ed as a “can m ss” prospec who wou d be n he Ma or Leagues soon maybe
even iin Septtember.. He lled tthe tteam iin viicttoriies and sttriikeoutts.. He was giiven tthe
 even n Sep ember He ed he eam n v c or es and s r keou s He was g ven he
niickname “Super Rookiie,,” or “Supe” ffor shortt.. Hiis ffutture was secure when Hemus saiid
 n ckname “Super Rook e ” or “Supe” or shor H s u ure was secure when Hemus sa d
he remiinded hiim off Bob Giibson.. When mostt miinor lleague piittchiing prospectts gett hiitt,, tthey
 he rem nded h m o Bob G bson When mos m nor eague p ch ng prospec s ge h hey
are removed so as tto prottectt ttheiir genttlle psyches.. Hemus realliized Seaver had tthe menttall
 are removed so as o pro ec he r gen e psyches Hemus rea zed Seaver had he men a
ttoughness off .. .. .. a 35--year olld.. When hiis rough pattches came,, as tthey allways do,, he keptt
   oughness o            a 35 year o d When h s rough pa ches came as hey a ways do he kep
hiim iin tto gaiin ffrom tthe experiience..
 h m n o ga n rom he exper ence
The roughestt pattch came offf tthe ffiielld,, when tthe “wiizened” wiives and giirllffriiends off tthe
 The roughes pa ch came o he e d when he “w zened” w ves and g r r ends o he
Jacksonviillle pllayers sett tthe naïïve Calliifforniia giirll Nancy “sttraiightt” on tthe nottoriious
 Jacksonv e p ayers se he na ve Ca orn a g r Nancy “s ra gh ” on he no or ous
sexuall habiitts off balllpllayers.. Tom assured her off hiis commiittmentt tto her,, butt her miind was
 sexua hab s o ba p ayers Tom assured her o h s comm men o her bu her m nd was
ffiilllled wiitth dreadffull tthoughtts..
        ed w h dread u hough s
Afftter a heavy worklload att Jacksonviilllle,, tthe Metts deciided nott tto calll hiim up iin Septtember..
 A er a heavy work oad a Jacksonv e he Me s dec ded no o ca h m up n Sep ember
Seaver and hiis new briide retturned tto Los Angelles,, where he was now jjustt anotther sttudentt
 Seaver and h s new br de re urned o Los Ange es where he was now us ano her s uden
att USC.. Suddenlly Seaver saw a new ffutture iin baseballl,, and began tto tthiink aboutt
 a USC Sudden y Seaver saw a new u ure n baseba and began o h nk abou
broadcasttiing on tthe siide.. He ttransfferred hiis majjor ffrom pre--denttiisttry tto publliic rellattiions..
 broadcas ng on he s de He rans erred h s ma or rom pre den s ry o pub c re a ons
IInsttead off lliiviing near campus,, nottoriious ffor beiing near a hiigh criime zone and att tthatt
    ns ead o v ng near campus no or ous or be ng near a h gh cr me zone and a ha
ttiime onlly a year removed ffrom tthe nearby Wattts riiotts,, tthey lliived iin upscalle Manhatttan
     me on y a year removed rom he nearby Wa s r o s hey ved n upsca e Manha an
Beach..
 Beach
IIn 1967,, Seaver enttered Spriing Traiiniing amiid specullattiion tthatt he woulld be a sttarttiing
    n 1967 Seaver en ered Spr ng Tra n ng am d specu a on ha he wou d be a s ar ng
piittcher.. Had Seaver nott been wiitth tthe llowlly Metts,, he probablly woulld nott have made iitt tto
 p cher Had Seaver no been w h he ow y Me s he probab y wou d no have made o
“The Show,,” as tthe Majjors are refferred tto,, as quiicklly.. He woulld have sttartted outt att
 “The Show ” as he Ma ors are re erred o as qu ck y He wou d have s ar ed ou a
siinge--A or doublle--A,, tthen worked hiis way up.. IInsttead,, he diid sttartt as a rookiie iin 1967.. IIn
 s nge A or doub e A hen worked h s way up ns ead he d d s ar as a rook e n 1967 n
ttrutth,, he was as ready as can be.. Manager Wes Westtrum nott onlly putt hiim iin tthe sttarttiing
   ru h he was as ready as can be Manager Wes Wes rum no on y pu h m n he s ar ng
rottattiion att tthe begiinniing off tthe season,, he was ttallked outt off sttarttiing hiim on Openiing Day
 ro a on a he beg nn ng o he season he was a ked ou o s ar ng h m on Open ng Day
onlly outt off cauttiion..
 on y ou o cau on
The Metts were as bad as ever iin 1967,, onlly now tthey were jjustt tterriiblle,, nott ffunny.. The
 The Me s were as bad as ever n 1967 on y now hey were us err b e no unny The
olld Casey Sttengell sttoriies,, tthe wacky “Marvellous Marv” Throneberry anttiics,, were gone..
 o d Casey S enge s or es he wacky “Marve ous Marv” Throneberry an cs were gone
Now tthey jjustt llostt.. Seaver was appallled..
 Now hey us os Seaver was appa ed
“II was nott raiised on tthe Mett llegend,,” he saiid.. He had no affffiiniitty ffor any off tthatt sttufff..
 “ was no ra sed on he Me egend ” he sa d He had no a n y or any o ha s u
Despiitte beiing a rookiie,, he quiicklly ascended tto a posiittiion off lleadershiip on tthe cllub.. When
 Desp e be ng a rook e he qu ck y ascended o a pos on o eadersh p on he c ub When
tteammattes llaughed att ttheiir iinepttiittude,, he reffused tto llett tthem gett away wiitth iitt.. Once,,
   eamma es aughed a he r nep ude he re used o e hem ge away w h Once
when Metts pllayers were ffoolliing around iin tthe dugoutt duriing a game,, Seaver ffound some
 when Me s p ayers were oo ng around n he dugou dur ng a game Seaver ound some
spiiders nesttiing iin a corner.. He scooped tthem alll up and tthrew tthem att tthe offfenders,,
 sp ders nes ng n a corner He scooped hem a up and hrew hem a he o enders
ttellliing tthem tto wake up and pay atttenttiion.. Hiis atttiittude woulld have been ttaken excepttiion
  e ng hem o wake up and pay a en on H s a ude wou d have been aken excep on
tto,, exceptt tthatt he was so shockiinglly good.. IItt earned hiim iimmediiatte respectt..
  o excep ha he was so shock ng y good earned h m mmed a e respec
Seaver’’s work etthiic was llegendary,, hiis concenttrattiion and seriiousness unprecedentted iin
 Seaver s work e h c was egendary h s concen ra on and ser ousness unpreceden ed n
Mett hiisttory.. He was iimmediiattelly successffull.. When hiis brotther,, Charlles Jr..,, a New York
 Me h s ory He was mmed a e y success u When h s bro her Char es Jr a New York
Ciitty sociiall worker,, viisiitted a clliientt he saw a postter off hiis brotther hangiing iin hiis ttenementt
 C y soc a worker v s ed a c en he saw a pos er o h s bro her hang ng n h s enemen
aparttmentt.. IItt was an era beffore ESPN and tthe llowlly Metts were nott on nattiionall TV very
 apar men           was an era be ore ESPN and he ow y Me s were no on na ona TV very
much.. Ciinciinnattii’’s Pette Rose openlly wondered who “tthe kiid” was att Gallllagher’’s,, a New
 much C nc nna s Pe e Rose open y wondered who “ he k d” was a Ga agher s a New
York stteak house,, when he saw an outt--off--pllace Seaver siitttiing att a ttablle by hiimsellff.. Tolld
 York s eak house when he saw an ou o p ace Seaver s ng a a ab e by h mse To d
whom he was,, Rose tthen made tthe connecttiion.. Thiis was tthe guy who beatt hiis Reds,, 7--3,,
 whom he was Rose hen made he connec on Th s was he guy who bea h s Reds 7 3
on June 13..
 on June 13
He sure llooks young butt tthe kiid’’s gott a hellluva ffastt balll..
 He sure ooks young bu he k d s go a he uva as ba
Agaiinstt hiis hero Henry Aaron,, Seaver iinduced tthe sllugger iintto a doublle--pllay,, butt was
 Aga ns h s hero Henry Aaron Seaver nduced he s ugger n o a doub e p ay bu was
allmostt iin admiirattiion off hiis opponentt when Aaron adjjustted llatter and hiitt tthe same piittch
 a mos n adm ra on o h s opponen when Aaron ad us ed a er and h he same p ch
over tthe ffence.. Henry ttolld hiim he was “tthrowiing hard,, kiid..” He “sttallked” Sandy Kouffax
 over he ence Henry o d h m he was “ hrow ng hard k d ” He “s a ked” Sandy Kou ax
att tthe battttiing cage when tthe now--rettiired llegend was iin ttown as a broadcastter.. When
 a he ba ng cage when he now re red egend was n own as a broadcas er When
Kouffax recogniized who he was,, Seaver was ttaken aback butt plleased..
 Kou ax recogn zed who he was Seaver was aken aback bu p eased
Seaver earned a spott on tthe Nattiionall League rostter ffor tthe Alll--Sttar Game,, pllayed near
 Seaver earned a spo on he Na ona League ros er or he A S ar Game p ayed near

hiis colllege sttompiing grounds,, att Anaheiim Sttadiium.. Thiis meantt more embarrassed
h s co ege s omp ng grounds a Anahe m S ad um Th s mean more embarrassed

miisttaken iidenttiitty.. Cardiinall supersttar Lou Brock tthoughtt he was tthe cllubhouse boy and
m s aken den y Card na supers ar Lou Brock hough he was he c ubhouse boy and

asked hiim tto ffettch a Coke.. Seaver duttiiffulllly diid tthatt,, butt Brock had tto apollogiize when he
asked h m o e ch a Coke Seaver du u y d d ha bu Brock had o apo og ze when he

was iinfformed who he was..
was n ormed who he was



SPACEMAN REVISITED
SPACEMAN REVISITED

SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000



Biillll "Spaceman" Lee and II have been ffriiends ffor over 10 years,, ever siince II iinviitted hiim tto
B "Spaceman" Lee and have been r ends or over 10 years ever s nce nv ed h m o
speak tto a polliittiicall organiizattiion aboutt hiis 1988 Rhiinoceros Partty "Presiidenttiiall
speak o a po ca organ za on abou h s 1988 Rh noceros Par y "Pres den a
candiidacy.." Spaceman had a roomffull off sttufffed--shiirtt Republliicans rollliing iin tthe aiislles
cand dacy " Spaceman had a room u o s u ed sh r Repub cans ro ng n he a s es
when he saiid,, "II''m so conservattiive II eatt road kiilll,," and "II''m so ffar tto tthe riightt II''m
when he sa d " m so conserva ve ea road k " and " m so ar o he r gh m
sttandiing back--tto--back wiitth Chaiirman Mao.."
s and ng back o back w h Cha rman Mao "
           Biillll iis Everyman,, tthe kiind off guy who lloves tto gett ttogetther wiitth tthe guys and
           B s Everyman he k nd o guy who oves o ge oge her w h he guys and

driink colld beer.. When II iinviitted hiim tto a watteriing holle,, my buds doubtted he woulld show,,
dr nk co d beer When nv ed h m o a wa er ng ho e my buds doub ed he wou d show

butt when he diid he regalled alll wiitth hiis haiill ffelllow welll mett humorr.. He iis jjustt a lliitttlle
bu when he d d he rega ed a w h h s ha e ow we me humo He s us a                                            e

offff--centter.. Spaceman sttayed att my house,, butt att 6::30 A..M.. II ffound hiim nott iin bed butt
o cen er Spaceman s ayed a my house bu a 6 30 A M ound h m no n bed bu
doiing morniing ttaii--chaii wiitth my neiighbor,, a Chiinese ffelllow who appeared tto be aboutt
do ng morn ng a cha w h my ne ghbor a Ch nese e ow who appeared o be abou

115 years olld.. Latter he accompaniied me tto work,, and att a llaw offffiice tthe secrettary was
115 years o d La er he accompan ed me o work and a a aw o ce he secre ary was

ready tto calll 911 aboutt a heartt atttack viicttiim iin tthe parkiing llott.. II had tto expllaiin tthatt iitt
ready o ca 911 abou a hear a ack v c m n he park ng o had o exp a n ha

was jjustt "Spaceman" doiing hiis afftternoon ttaii chii..
was us "Spaceman" do ng h s a ernoon a ch

         The Spaceman is a sixth-generation Californian whose grandfather, Rockwell

Dennis Hunt, was dean of the University of Southern California graduate school from

1900 to 1937. He grew up in the San Fernando Valley, playing little league with future

Montreal Expo Tim Foli. Lee's father was a strict disciplinarian.

" 'Get a haircut and get a job,' that's what Dad always said," says Bill. "I was more
George Thorogood - `Bad to the Bone, I drink alone.' " Lee Sr. was transferred by the
phone company to Marin County just in time for Bill to enter Terra Linda High School.
        "It was like Stephen King's The Stand," Spaceman recalls of the SoCal/NoCal

culture shock. "You know, how the biker's square off against the hippies? The older

students were '50s greasers. My class was the beginning of the '60s Free Speech

Movement. There was a lot of prejudice against Southern California 'cause we wore

shorts."

Spaceman ((who was giiven tthatt moniiker by a Ballttiimore wriitter iin 1972)) was a ffree spiiriitt
 Spaceman who was g ven ha mon ker by a Ba more wr er n 1972 was a ree sp r
who sttarred iin baseballll,, earniing a schollarshiip tto USC.. He acttuallly tthoughtt aboutt goiing
 who s arred n baseba earn ng a scho arsh p o USC He ac ua y hough abou go ng
tto Humbolldtt Sttatte tto majjor iin fforesttry,, butt beiing a USCiion meantt tthatt hiis onlly reall
  o Humbo d S a e o ma or n ores ry bu be ng a USC on mean ha h s on y rea
choiices were tto attttend SC,, USC or Soutthern Call!!
 cho ces were o a end SC USC or Sou hern Ca
        His impression of legendary coach Rod Dedeaux was one of "amazement. He

didn't look like a ballplayer, he was always making wisecracks. But he had eyes in the

back of his head, and as the game progressed he knew everything about every player. He

was the most astute baseball man I ever met."

Spaceman says that the greatest team he ever saw was "either the 1975 Cincinnati Reds,
the 1968 USC Trojans, or any Taiwan little league team." He put to rest a rumor that he
"held out" his senior year by telling Dedeaux he would not pitch conference games unless
he could start at first base in non-conference contests. Once the team went to Santa
Barbara, but Lee was late warming up because he had forgotten his sanitary socks.
Instead of asking the equipment manager for a replacement, he sought out a sporting
goods store instead. He retrned and was told by the equipment manager that he had a
bag full of replacement socks. During a trip to Hawaii, he emerged from the luggage
chute. On one occasion during a rain delay he took a dare and did push-ups on the field .
. . wearing only jock strap and socks!
        Lee was at SC during the golden years of Trojan sports. O.J. Simpson was his

classmate, as was Tom Selleck (a pretty good athlete who dabbled in baseball, basketball

and volleyball), and his teammates included Mike Garrett and Tom Seaver. Of Selleck,

Lee remembers that "he was a big frat guy. They were Greek geeks. I was a Left wing

jock at conservative university."

          One his grandfather helped to found, by the way.

          "Selleck was making Myra Breckenridge," Lee recalls. "That was his first movie.

Tom Seaver was a funny, happy-go-lucky guy, not the corporate type he is now. He

seemed pretty easy to hit, then he got on the weights, his legs got big, he filled out and got

taller and started bringing serious heat. He's got a natural hop on his fastball that can't

be taught. That's the difference between him in a limo and me in a beer truck. He's the

best fastball pitcher of our time, a better pitcher than Nolan Ryan or Jim Palmer."

          Spaceman ffelltt Seaver was aboutt equall wiitth Bob Giibson (("a siinker//slliider
          Spaceman e Seaver was abou equa w h Bob G bson "a s nker s der

piittcher")).. He allso admiires a more "Democrattiic" modern day ttwiirller,, Greg Maddux,, who
p cher" He a so adm res a more "Democra c" modern day w r er Greg Maddux who

iis more iin hiis sttylle..
  s more n h s s y e

"Maddux iis a ffiinesse piittcher who paiintts tthe edges off tthe canvas,," iis Spaceman''s
"Maddux s a nesse p cher who pa n s he edges o he canvas " s Spaceman s
assesmentt.. "He''s tthe Cattffiish Huntter off tthiis generattiion.. Seaver had conttroll,, butt he was
assesmen "He s he Ca sh Hun er o h s genera on Seaver had con ro bu he was
such a hard tthrower he diidn''tt have tto be so ffiine.."
such a hard hrower he d dn have o be so ne "
So,, Lee was a young,, siinglle man goiing tto SC and lliiviing iin L..A.. iin tthe ''60s.. Memoriies?
So Lee was a young s ng e man go ng o SC and v ng n L A n he 60s Memor es?
"My ffriiend Greg Freeman owned a ''63 Chevy IImpalla,," Lee recallls.. "He parked iitt iin tthe
"My r end Greg Freeman owned a 63 Chevy mpa a " Lee reca s "He parked n he
neiighborhood near schooll,, and when we gott back tthe seatts were sttollen.. We cruiised
ne ghborhood near schoo and when we go back he sea s were s o en We cru sed
Sunsett Sttriip tthatt niightt siitttiing on orange crattes.. II wentt tto alll tthe bars,, butt Barney''s
Sunse S r p ha n gh s ng on orange cra es wen o a he bars bu Barney s
Beanery was more my kiind off pllace .. .. .. lliike tthe way II piittched,, iitt was nott iin tthe centter butt
Beanery was more my k nd o p ace                     ke he way p ched was no n he cen er bu
ratther on tthe outtskiirtts.. <Lee''s diiallogue iis sttrewn wiitth mettaphors tthatt descriibe lliiffe lliike
ra her on he ou sk r s <Lee s d a ogue s s rewn w h me aphors ha descr be e ke
piittchiing> My brotther was sttabbed <butt nott kiillled> att a Doors concertt.. II saw Janiis
p ch ng> My bro her was s abbed <bu no k ed> a a Doors concer saw Jan s
Joplliin.. My Unclle Grover made keys ffor moviie sttars.. Lee Marviin used tto go driinkiing wiitth
Jop n My Unc e Grover made keys or mov e s ars Lee Marv n used o go dr nk ng w h
us.. II allways tthoughtt off mysellff as a Wiillliiam Hollden--ttype off guy.."
us a ways hough o myse as a W am Ho den ype o guy "
           Lee has moviie--sttar good llooks,, and att one--ttiime a reputtattiion ffor beiing a lladiies''
            Lee has mov e s ar good ooks and a one me a repu a on or be ng a ad es

man.. Afftter colllege he pllayed ffor tthe Bostton Red Sox,, where he and a tteammatte,, ffelllow
man A er co ege he p ayed or he Bos on Red Sox where he and a eamma e e ow

Soutthern Calliifforniian Berniie Carbo,, were nottoriious bar hoppers and skiirtt hounds.. IIn hiis
Sou hern Ca orn an Bern e Carbo were no or ous bar hoppers and sk r hounds n h s

riiottouslly ffunny 1984 auttobiiography,, The Wrrong Sttuffff ((whiich came outt on tthe heells off
r o ous y unny 1984 au ob ography The W ong S u wh ch came ou on he hee s o

Tom Wollffe''s ttalle off asttronautt bravery)),, Lee recalllls miinor lleague groupiies who woulld
Tom Wo e s a e o as ronau bravery Lee reca s m nor eague group es who wou d

"do tthe wholle bulllpen.."
"do he who e bu pen "

 Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey was "like a grandfather to me." In The Wrong Stuff, Lee
 posits the metaphysical notion that after Yawkey passed away, he returned to Fenway
 Park to say hello to Spaceman in the form of a pigeon.
Carll Yasttrzemskii "dressed lliike Collumbo.. He had an olld raiincoatt.. Guys woulld ttramplle
 Car Yas rzemsk "dressed ke Co umbo He had an o d ra ncoa Guys wou d ramp e
iitt,, tthrow iitt iin tthe garbage,," butt Yaz woulld resurrectt tthe Lazarus--lliike garmentt and wear iitt
         hrow n he garbage " bu Yaz wou d resurrec he Lazarus ke garmen and wear
agaiin and agaiin.. "He was a Long IIslland pottatto ffarmer,," and Trojjan Biillll made a
 aga n and aga n "He was a Long s and po a o armer " and Tro an B made a
lless--tthan--ffond remark when remiinded tthatt Yaz was a Nottre Dame guy..
   ess han ond remark when rem nded ha Yaz was a No re Dame guy
             "Carlton Fisk was an ornery Yankee farmer who spent his whole life pulling

stumps out of granite," Spaceman said of the Cooperstown-bound former catcher. "He

loved to fight. He hated <Yankee catcher Thurman> Munson. Pudge was tenacious,

always getting in brawls. The only friends he had were pitchers, but he was a leader,

much more than Yaz."

Fisk no doubt fueled the 1976 brawl in which the Yankees' Graig Nettles broke Lee's
shoulder, changing him from "a soft thrower to a real soft thrower." That was one year
after the classic 1975 World Series in which Lee left games two and seven with leads that
the Boston bullpen could not hold against Cincinnati.
"I left game two leading 2-1 with a blister on my hand," he recalled. "No way I walk
Cesar Geronimo otherwise. We were underdogs, but Luis Tiant pitched great."
Lee is well remembered for giving up a gargantuan home run to Tony Perez on an
oh-so-hanging curve ball in the final game, but Boston still was ahead when he departed.
How good was the Big Red Machine?
"They were one run better than us," says the Spaceman. "If we turn the double play,
Perez leads off the next inning and it's not a two-run homer. Same thing this year with
Offerman."
Still a Red Sox fan, Lee is responsible for putting forth the "Curse of the Bambino" as
being responsible for the franchise's history of near-misses. Ask him about Ted Williams.
"Most cantankerous, nastiest guy I ever saw. Kind of like the West Coast version of Fisk.
He tried to hit on my wife in 1991. I can't say I blame him. That probably caused his
stroke."
        In 1979, Spaceman landed in hot water with Commissioner Bowie Kuhn when he

told a writer he "likes to sprinkle marijuana on my pancakes" for breakfast. He thought

Jim Bouton's Ball Four was clever, even though Mickey Mantle would not talk to Bouton

for years after it came out.

             "Balllpllayers have biig opiiniions off tthemsellves and don''tt lliike tto be criittiiciized,," he
             "Ba p ayers have b g op n ons o hemse ves and don ke o be cr c zed " he

offffers..
o ers

Spaceman says tthatt he ffaced a llott off senttiimentt agaiinstt Calliifforniia atthllettes,, perhaps nott
 Spaceman says ha he aced a o o sen men aga ns Ca orn a a h e es perhaps no
realliiziing he iis parttlly tthe reason tthatt soutthpaws ffrom tthe Gollden Sttatte are consiidered
 rea z ng he s par y he reason ha sou hpaws rom he Go den S a e are cons dered
oddballlls..
 oddba s
"II''m much more cerebrall tthan peoplle realliize,," he says.. Thiis iis ttrue.. Biilll iis hiighlly
 " m much more cerebra han peop e rea ze " he says Th s s rue B s h gh y
iinttelllliigentt,, very wellll educatted,, and possesses a miind tthatt iinquiires off a llarge number off
  n e gen very we educa ed and possesses a m nd ha nqu res o a arge number o
subjjectts rangiing ffrom polliittiics tto relliigiion tto phiillosophy.. He graduatted ffrom SC and
 sub ec s rang ng rom po cs o re g on o ph osophy He gradua ed rom SC and
piicked up a degree ffrom Miissiissiippii Sttatte jjustt ffor kiicks..
 p cked up a degree rom M ss ss pp S a e us or k cks
He hellped ffound tthe seniior lleague,, a proffessiionall associiattiion off ex--biig lleaguers,, butt tthe
 He he ped ound he sen or eague a pro ess ona assoc a on o ex b g eaguers bu he
lleague ffollded and mostt off tthe pllayers are now "iin tthe Bettty Ford Clliiniic,," Lee deadpans..
  eague o ded and mos o he p ayers are now " n he Be y Ford C n c " Lee deadpans
Lee iis allso ffond off ttellliing peoplle tthatt he once venttured across some border iintto
 Lee s a so ond o e ng peop e ha he once ven ured across some border n o
Communiistt Chiina wiitthoutt anybody knowiing aboutt iitt.. The Sttatte Departtmentt woulld have
 Commun s Ch na w hou anybody know ng abou                               The S a e Depar men wou d have
had a niice ttiime expllaiiniing tthatt one.. Spaceman allso pllayed a baseballl exhiibiittiion iin tthe
 had a n ce me exp a n ng ha one Spaceman a so p ayed a baseba exh b on n he
olld Soviiett Uniion..
 o d Sov e Un on
Lee lliives iin Vermontt and sttiilll pllays over--50 hardballll,, lleadiing hiis tteam tto tthe nattiionall
 Lee ves n Vermon and s p ays over 50 hardba ead ng h s eam o he na ona
champiionshiip iin Ariizona llastt Octtober.. Spaceman hangs outt wiitth George Thorogood and
 champ onsh p n Ar zona as Oc ober Spaceman hangs ou w h George Thorogood and
Woody Harrellson,, who iis tthe executtiive producer off a Paramountt ffiillm projjectt based on
 Woody Harre son who s he execu ve producer o a Paramoun m pro ec based on
Lee''s caree .. .. .. --iiff tthey can ever gett tthe screenpllay tto read lliike reall baseballl--speak.. He
 Lee s caree                   hey can ever ge he screenp ay o read ke rea baseba speak He
has ffour chiilldren ((he was diivorced ffrom hiis ffiirstt wiiffe years ago)).. Miichaell,, 29 iis a
 has our ch dren he was d vorced rom h s rs w e years ago M chae 29 s a
graphiic desiigner iin Washiingtton sttatte.. Andy,, 24 iis a Red Sox miinor lleaguer.. Kattiie,, 23 iis a
 graph c des gner n Wash ng on s a e Andy 24 s a Red Sox m nor eaguer Ka e 23 s a
vetteriinariian''s ttechniiciian iin Miissiissiippii.. Anna iis ffiive..
 ve er nar an s echn c an n M ss ss pp Anna s ve
Berniie Carbo ttoday? "He''s selllliin'' relliigiion some pllace,," say Spaceman..
 Bern e Carbo oday? "He s se n re g on some p ace " say Spaceman


TOM KELLY
TOM KELLY
Radiio Pllay--by--Pllay Announcer
Rad o P ay by P ay Announcer
1961 -- 1988
1961 1988

USC p ov ded me he oppo un y as an announce t was a na ona s age and my vo ce
USC prroviided me tthe opporrttuniitty as an announcerr.. IIt was a nattiionall sttage and my voiice

has been hearrd counttlless ttiimes announciing hiighlliightts ffrrom O..J.. Siimpson,, ffrrom Souttherrn
has been hea d coun ess mes announc ng h gh gh s om O J S mpson om Sou he n

Call--Nottrre Dame games.. IItt has been a magniiffiicentt experriience.. II''ve allways been rremiinded
Ca No e Dame games has been a magn cen expe ence ve a ways been em nded
off tthe 1974 game wiitth tthe IIrriish.. As tthey kiicked offff tto Antthony Daviis tto sttarrtt tthe second
o he 1974 game w h he sh As hey k cked o o An hony Dav s o s a he second

hallff II saiid,, "IItt's been an IIrriish afftterrnoon" and my,, A..D.. jjustt made a magniiffiicentt rretturrn fforr
ha sa d " 's been an sh a e noon" and my A D us made a magn cen e u n o

a ttouchdown and afftterr tthatt II''ve neverr seen anytthiing tto equall iitt.. II mustt agrree A..D..'s
a ouchdown and a e ha ve neve seen any h ng o equa                                  mus ag ee A D 's

perrfforrmances agaiinstt Nottrre Dame,, botth iin 1972 and iin 1974,, arre ttwo off,, iiff nott tthe ttwo
pe o mances aga ns No e Dame bo h n 1972 and n 1974 a e wo o                                no he wo

bestt,, perrfforrmances iin colllege ffoottballl hiisttorry..
bes pe o mances n co ege oo ba h s o y

         You know,, II'd been iin L..A.. fforr a ffew yearrs when tthe Dodgerrs iintterrviiewed me
         You know 'd been n L A o a ew yea s when he Dodge s n e v ewed me

aboutt an announciing sllott allongsiide Viin Sculllly.. II go tto see Walltterr O'Mallley and he says,,
abou an announc ng s o a ongs de V n Scu y go o see Wa e O'Ma ey and he says

"Send me a ttape.." Send me a ttape!! II jjustt ttolld hiim,, "Why,, jjustt tturrn on tthe rradiio,, II'm on allll
"Send me a ape " Send me a ape us o d h m "Why us u n on he ad o 'm on a

tthe ttiime.." II ffelltt lliike an acttorr whose on TV everry day and he has tto audiittiion.. II neverr
  he me " e ke an ac o whose on TV eve y day and he has o aud on neve

announced fforr tthe Dodgerrs!!
announced o he Dodge s

John McKay and USC may have integrated the South with the 1970 USC-Alabama game.
I was there, in the press box, but not in the Alabama locker room. This was not the first
time that SC integrated the South. C. R. Roberts and the Trojans went down to Texas in
1956. C.R. told me that first of all, there was another member of the team who was
passing as white. When they came to the hotel, the guy at the hotel said to Jess Hill of
C.R., "Is he with you?" and Jess said if he can’t stay we're not staying. Word got out and
the room was full of ministers, cab drivers, the whole black community showed up afraid
that somebody was going to get killed. They protected C.R.
In 1970, I fully understand the story about McKay and Sam Cunningham and Bear
Bryant, and about how their famous meeting could have happened in the hallway instead
of the Alabama locker room. Yes, that place was crowded and it could have been there.
Legion Field is in the "darkest" part of town, you have to drive through a terrible
neighborhood to get there, not unlike the Coliseum. But I never knew much about race
problems. All I knew is we had a hellacious football team.
That team was loaded with talent, but Stanford beat us two years in row. I don't care
about Don Bunce or Jim Plunkett, I've often thought but nobody said it, these were
freshman or sophomores who'd make up the 1972 national champions, but I've often
thought they had racial problems of their own. They were too good not to win. Stanford
was good, but we had no business losing. I respect Rod McNeill, and if he and a few
others say the 1970 and '71 teams had some racial problems, well as I say, I never said it
but it confirms suspicions I've had for years. I do think there was tension over the fact
that Jimmy Jones was a black quarterback, while Mike Rae, who was spectacular, sat
behind him.
I'd have to go back a long way, but Brice Taylor was an All-American in 1925, and
Willie Wood played quarterback for McKay. It was never "who wants a black
quarterback?" Maybe McKay felt he was forced to play Jones. I just don't know, I was
too close to it.
I do know that the 1970 team was made up in large measure by sophomores, and the
experience they shared at Alabama, combined with coming together through Bible study
as I've been told they were, created what is simply the greatest, most magnificent team in
college football history, the 1972 national champions. John McKay unhesitatingly called
it the best team ever, and I second that whole-heartedly. Jim Sweeney at Washington
State said they were not the best team in American, the Miami Dolphins were, and it is
possible the Trojans would have beaten some NFL squads. The 2005 team looked to be
better, and on offense they were, but ultimately their defense was not as tremendous.
To be a part of the magnificence of USC, why it's been an honor and an incredible
experience. I don't know who has the greatest tradition in the game. Some years Notre
Dame is magnificent, other years USC, other years Oklahoma or Michigan, Ohio State or
Nebraska, Alabama or Texas. I just know the University of Southern California is equal
to any of them.
Thatt saiid,, Souttherrn Call has a panache,, a graviittas tthatt iis ffound perrhaps onlly att Nottrre
Tha sa d Sou he n Ca has a panache a grav as ha s ound pe haps on y a No e
Dame,, whatt wiitth ttheiirr Hollllywood gllamourr,, Rudy and "wiin one fforr tthe Giipperr.." II
Dame wha w h he Ho ywood g amou Rudy and "w n one o he G ppe "
underrsttand ttherre wiillll be a ffiillm verrsiion off tthe 1970 USC--Allabama game,, based on tthe
unde s and he e w be a m ve s on o he 1970 USC A abama game based on he
book One Niightt,, Two Teams:: Allabama vs.. USC and tthe Game Thatt Changed a Nattiion,,
book One N gh Two Teams A abama vs USC and he Game Tha Changed a Na on
and why,, iitt's apprroprriiatte iitt be giiven tthe ttag lliine,, "USC's Rudy.." Therre have been moviies
and why 's app op a e be g ven he ag ne "USC's Rudy " The e have been mov es
wiitth USC rrefferrences and aboutt tthe schooll.. Therre was a TV moviie aboutt Riicky Belll..
w h USC e e ences and abou he schoo The e was a TV mov e abou R cky Be
Therre was Love and Baskettballl.. One on One was llooselly sett att USC..
The e was Love and Baske ba One on One was oose y se a USC
The Donald Segretti character referred to the "USC mafia" in All the President's Men,
and in the TV movie about Rocky Bleir, when Bleir goes in for surgery after being
injured in Vietnam, the doctor told him he was a USC graduate who was in the stands
when the Irish beat us, 51-0, but that doctor sewed Rocky up beautifully and he returned
to play for Pittsburgh.
But for a school that produced John "Duke" Wayne and Ward Bond, and all the extras in
Salute and numerous Biblical epics, Napoleonic extravaganzas; our fight song
"Conquest" comes from the movie Captain From Castile; all the gladiators in Spartacus
were Trojan football players; well, it's magnificent that we finally have a real box office
epic about our team.


Silver-tongued orator Tom Kelly lent his Irish wit and charm to radio broadcasts of
Southern California football from 1961-88 before moving to Fox Sports, where he
and Craig Fertig teamed up on TV games. In addition Kelly handled numerous
other assignments in various sports. The first time many fans heard that Alabama
coach Bear Bryant supposedly said that Sam Cunningham "is what a football
player looks like" was on Kelly's 1988 documentary of USC football history, Trojan
Video Gold. He is also the author of Tales From the USC Trojans and is a member of
the USC Athletic Hall of Fame.
AN UNSUNG HERO

San Francisco Examiner, 2001
"Unsung." Not celebrated in song or story, not acclaimed.
      Bob Troppmann may have been unsung, but Bear Bryant used to endorse his

football clinics and said when he wanted to know what new techniques there were, he

asked Bopb Troppmann..

The problem with people is that they do not do what they say they are going to do. If
Troppmann, an ex-Marine with a heart of gold, told you he would do something, you
could take it to the bank.
He was one of the best prep football coaches in California, building Redwood High of
Marin County into a dynasty, but he lost his beloved job over generational differences.
There is a theory that says America always wins its wars because of prep football. The
pageantry. The marching bands. The organized mayhem. Crowds, like countries, taking
sides.
Tropp was the master of this structured world. In 1970, when Robin Williams was a
senior at Redwood and Vietnam was raging, a bunch of athletes got together and said
they did not have to cut their hair.
You would have thought Sacco and Vanzetti were advocating anarchy in Larkspur!
        Hair was not just a Broadway play at the time, but a Great Divide between old

and young that cannot be comprehended by today’s generation. To make a sad story

short, the school, which still enforced a uniform dress code, won a court case that said

they had the right to ask players to cut their hair.

       It was a Pyrhhic victory for Tropp. That means the cost of winning was greater

than winning itself. He resigned on principle.

Instead of coaching for many more years during his prime, he faded into relative
obscurity.
Today, his legacy lives on in the person of Pete Carroll. Carroll played for Troppmann at
Redwood, and was inspired by him to enter coaching. As defensive coordinator for the
49ers in 1994, he helped theteam in their dynasty years. Head coaching stints with the
Jets and Patriots followed. Now, he is in charge of what Yamamoto might call the
"sleeping giant," the USC Trojans.
"He was born to coach," says Tropp. "Everybody loved him. Now, he’s had 15 years
professional coaching experience, he’s been with Lou Holtz, and on the staff at Ohio
State. He’s just a solid individual with enthusiasm, whose mastered mostly defensive
skills. He’s always had his followers."
Tropp was asked about the Generation Gap of the 1960s and ‘70s.
“The world was changing,” he recalls. “I took on the hair issue and ultimately lost. In
retrospect, a lot of people said I was right, but at the time there was high pressure over
the issue. Marin was sports-crazy in those days. Housing was affordable and young
families moved in.”
On Saturday, April 28, Lowell High School honored their first Hall of Fame class. Tropp
graduated from Lowell, but was not included. He should have been. This seems to be the
story of his life. The unsung hero. Unrecognized for the years of toil and good influence
he provided young men, not just Pete Carroll, but kids, some troubled, who benefited
from Tropp’s wise counsel.
Despite the Marine background and the shorthair drill instructor reputation “Coach T”
was known for on the football field, he was a kindly soul in his dealings with students,
many of them non-athletes, who attended his classes.
“I remember Robin Williams,” says Tropp. “He ran track. There was never a semblance
of the comic we see today. I see kids 30 years later, I don’t recognize ‘em, but they all
know and remember me. They’re doctors, lawyers, professionals. I see ‘em on the golf
course. Kids were just great 30 years ago, but kids are the same every generation,
basically.”
Tropp did coach the Redwood freshmen for a few seasons, and was head coach at
College of Marin in the 1980s.
Tropp, who joined the Marines on the “day of infamy, December 7, 1941,” spent time in
occupied Japan after the war, and then attended San Francisco State on the GI Bill. He
recalls watching the San Francisco Clippers and the Oakland Giants of the old Pacific
Coast Football League.
Guys like Bob Troppmann have a terrific influence on young lives, but they are too often
unrecognized. Not on my watch they aren’t.


                                          The

                                     SEVENTIES


                                   MIKE WALDEN

Radio Announcer
                                      1966 - 1973



My first year announcing USC football was 1966. The opener was at Texas. There'd be

press gatherings down there, what they called "smokers," where everybody got together.

Well, John Wayne was down there making War Wagon with Bruce Cabot.

       "I'm gonna have some whisky," Wayne says to the bartender, who pours it, and
Wayne just looks at it, shoves it back, and says, "I said WHISKEY!"
       Texas had a quarterback named "Super Bill" Bradley, who was supposed to be
outstanding, but USC just controlled the ball and won, 10-6. Afterward, Marv Goux came
in and said wasn't it great, "We didn't get anybody 'chipped off.' " Well, Wayne and
Cabot were somewhere, and someone got in an argument the next morning and their
make-up artist was dead of a heart attack. It was confusing. I don't know for sure what
happened. Wayne and all of 'em were out drinking all night and came in at seven in the
morning; maybe it was too much for this guy, but this make-up artist died.
        "Well," Cabot said, "We got somebody 'chipped off,' " after Goux said, "We didn't
get anybody 'chipped off.' "
        McKay was a real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personality, but I always respected

him after the 1966 Notre Dame game. He lost 51-0. Notre Dame had an All-American

name George Goedecke. He played only one or two games that year; he'd been injured

but had earned All-American the previous year. On the last play of the game, Notre

Dame sent him in and McKay told players not to block him, to see to it he didn't reinjure

himself. After the game, and remember this was the first year of the Cultural Revolution,

McKay told the writers that "a billion Chinese don't give a damn whether we won this

game or not" to put it into perspective.

 Still, USC played hard in the Rose Bowl. Unlike Ara Parseghian, who had laid down and
 gone for a tie to preserve his ranking in the 1966 "Game of the Century" tie with
 Michigan State, when USC scored at the end to make it 14-13 in favor of Purdue, he
 chose to go for two instead of a tie. USC failed, but that's What It Means to Be a Trojan.
 I announced the 1970 game at Birmingham's, when Sam "Bam" Cunningham and the
 integrated Trojans went down there, beat the segregated Alabama Crimson Tide, and
 pushed integration of the Southeastern Conference. Well, that game opened the
 floodgates to get blacks recruited in Southern schools. It was the first game of the 1970
 season and there were about 80,000 people in the stands to watch Bear Bryant's Crimson
 Tide vs. John McKay's USC Trojans.
Now Corrky McKay was good ffrriiends wiitth Marry Harrmon Brryantt,, and off courrse Brryantt
 Now Co ky McKay was good ends w h Ma y Ha mon B yan and o cou se B yan
and McKay werre verry cllose,, so tthe exttentt tto whiich tthiis game iinvollved some kiind off pllan
 and McKay we e ve y c ose so he ex en o wh ch h s game nvo ved some k nd o p an
as iitt rrellattes tto iinttegrrattiion seems verry pllausiiblle tto my way off tthiinkiing..
 as e a es o n eg a on seems ve y p aus b e o my way o h nk ng
We diid nott rrealliize iitt att tthe ttiime,, butt we coulld llook back and rrealliize iitt was a biig ttiippiing
 We d d no ea ze a he me bu we cou d ook back and ea ze was a b g pp ng
 po n t us wasn' a b g h ng a ha me abou A abama hav ng no b acks As he
poiintt.. IIt jjustt wasn'tt a biig tthiing att tthatt ttiime,, aboutt Allabama haviing no bllacks.. As tthe
season ended,, tthen on rreffllecttiion,, II rrealliized tthe game was speciiall,, and maybe iitt ffocused
 season ended hen on e ec on ea zed he game was spec a and maybe ocused
on tthe ffactt tthatt yes,, ttherre werre prrobllems down Soutth and tthey needed tto be addrressed..
 on he ac ha yes he e we e p ob ems down Sou h and hey needed o be add essed
Butt rregarrdiing tthe Souttherrn peoplle,, wellll ffoottballl iis so biig ttherre,, tthey rrealliized tthey can'tt
 Bu ega d ng he Sou he n peop e we oo ba s so b g he e hey ea zed hey can'
gett iitt done wiitth whiitte pllayerrs onlly.. Now,, II don'tt make iitt outt tto be a biig morrall tthiing wiitth
 ge done w h wh e p aye s on y Now don' make ou o be a b g mo a h ng w h
   hem n my v ew wou d us say was oo ba hey wan ed o w n and hey ea zed
tthem.. IIn my viiew,, II woulld jjustt say iitt was ffoottballll,, tthey wantted tto wiin,, and tthey rrealliized
iiff tthey wantt tto be att tthatt llevell,, "we can'tt llett 'em <bllacks> go.."
       hey wan o be a ha eve "we can' e 'em <b acks> go "
Miike Wallden iis one off tthose guys who,, when you hear hiim,, you iimmediiattelly recalll
M ke Wa den s one o hose guys who when you hear h m you mmed a e y reca

hiis work.. He has tthe perffectt sporttscastter''s voiice;; deep and mellodramattiic.. Miike was
h s work He has he per ec spor scas er s vo ce deep and me odrama c M ke was

USC''s radiioman,, descriibiing tthe no--TV game ffrom Biirmiingham tto Soutthern
USC s rad oman descr b ng he no TV game rom B rm ngham o Sou hern

Calliifforniia ffoottballl ffans on tthe eveniing off Septtember 12,, 1970.. Priior tto tthatt,, he had
Ca orn a oo ba ans on he even ng o Sep ember 12 1970 Pr or o ha he had

worked wiitth Ray Scotttt on Green Bay Packers'' broadcastts duriing tthe Viince
worked w h Ray Sco on Green Bay Packers broadcas s dur ng he V nce

Lombardii--Bartt Sttarr era tthatt was tthe 1960s,, tthus iimmorttalliiziing hiis sttylle iin endlless
Lombard Bar S arr era ha was he 1960s hus mmor a z ng h s s y e n end ess

NFL hiighlliightt ttapes.. Asiide ffrom USC ffoottballll,, he allso announced ffor cross--ttown
NFL h gh gh apes As de rom USC oo ba he a so announced or cross own

riivall UCLA,, makiing hiim tthe onlly llocall announcer tto broadcastt ffor botth schoolls.. In
r va UCLA mak ng h m he on y oca announcer o broadcas or bo h schoo s In

1979 he retturned tto USC,, tthiis ttiime descriibiing ttelleviised games..
1979 he re urned o USC h s me descr b ng e ev sed games


                                              CLARENCE DAVIS
                                              CLARENCE DAVIS

Taiillback
Ta back
1969 -- 70
1969 70


II was borrn iin Biirrmiingham,, Allabama,, butt my parrentts diivorrced.. II moved tto tthe Brronx,,
   was bo n n B m ngham A abama bu my pa en s d vo ced moved o he B onx

New Yorrk,, wiitth my mottherr,, butt tthen she moved outt tto Los Angelles when II was aboutt
New Yo k w h my mo he bu hen she moved ou o Los Ange es when was abou

tthiirrtteen.. II had ttwo siistterrs,, Beverrlly and Marriie.. My mottherr basiicallly moved arround
  h een had wo s s e s Beve y and Ma e My mo he bas ca y moved a ound

because she had a jjob waiittiing fforr herr,, and we werre jjustt wiitth herr..
because she had a ob wa ng o he and we we e us w h he

          Afftterr II gott outt tto Calliifforrniia,, II saw tthatt lliiffe iin L..A.. was diifffferrentt tthan iin New
          A e go ou o Ca o n a saw ha e n L A was d e en han n New

Yorrk.. IItt was jjustt diifffferrentt,, butt II tthiink peoplle werre ffrriiendlliierr iin L..A.. Att Washiingtton
Yo k was us d e en bu h nk peop e we e end e n L A A Wash ng on

Hiigh,, II was a shott--putttterr on tthe ttrrack tteam and a pullliing guarrd on tthe ffoottballl tteam.. II was
H gh was a sho pu e on he ack eam and a pu ng gua d on he oo ba eam was

nott a rrunniing back iin hiigh schooll,, so nobody rrecrruiitted me.. Afftterr grraduattiing iin 1967,, II
no a unn ng back n h gh schoo so nobody ec u ed me A e g adua ng n 1967

wentt tto Eastt L..A.. Juniiorr Colllege,, and iitt was ttherre tthatt II became a rrunniing back.. II was
wen o Eas L A Jun o Co ege and was he e ha became a unn ng back was

ttherre ttwo yearrs and was rrecrruiitted by Kansas and Arriizona,, and II ttook a ttrriip tto
  he e wo yea s and was ec u ed by Kansas and A zona and ook a p o

Washiingtton;; butt II chose USC.. O..J.. Siimpson rrecrruiitted me.. II'd brroken hiis jjuniiorr colllege
Wash ng on bu chose USC O J S mpson ec u ed me 'd b oken h s un o co ege
rrecorrds,, butt II was nott rreallly ffamiilliiarr wiitth USC's grreatt ttrradiittiion orr ttheiirr rrecorrd off grreatt
  eco ds bu was no ea y am a w h USC's g ea ad on o he eco d o g ea

rrunniing backs..
  unn ng backs

II neverr tthoughtt aboutt tthe prressurre off rrepllaciing O..J.. One guy asked me iiff II wantted tto be
    neve hough abou he p essu e o ep ac ng O J One guy asked me                                             wan ed o be
calllled "Lemonade" iinsttead off "tthe Juiice.." II jjustt saiid,, "II'm herre tto pllay balll,, nott rrepllace a
 ca ed "Lemonade" ns ead o " he Ju ce " us sa d " 'm he e o p ay ba no ep ace a
llegend.."
  egend "
II sttiillll had ffamiilly back iin Biirrmiingham when we pllayed ttherre iin 1970.. II rrealllly diid nott see
    s had am y back n B m ngham when we p ayed he e n 1970 ea y d d no see
allll tthatt much off tthe ttrroublles down ttherre.. My ffattherr had a carr,, and II rrode tthe bus;; butt you
 a ha much o he oub es down he e My a he had a ca and ode he bus bu you
know,, II diid nott see tthatt..
 know d d no see ha
II tthiink Wiillliie Brrown was ffrrom Allabama,, orr had ffamiilly ttherre.. When we pllayed Allabama
     h nk W e B own was om A abama o had am y he e When we p ayed A abama
and wallked on tthe ffiielld,, alll we hearrd was,, “Bearr meatt..” .. .. .. II llooked att tthe guys and jjustt
 and wa ked on he e d a we hea d was “Bea mea ”                                            ooked a he guys and us
keptt goiing.. We werre ttherre fforr tthe game.. II was one off tthose pllayerrs who ttake iitt serriiouslly..
 kep go ng We we e he e o he game was one o hose p aye s who ake se ous y
II rrememberr Tody Smiitth.. II callled hiim Totto.. .. .. .. II was nott awarre he brroughtt a gun.. II
     emembe Tody Sm h ca ed h m To o                                    was no awa e he b ough a gun
wasn’’tt worrrriied;; II was jjustt concenttrrattiing,, nott knowiing aboutt alll tthiis sttuffff aboutt Tody and
 wasn wo ed was us concen a ng no know ng abou a h s s u abou Tody and
tthe gun.. Thiis iis tthe ffiirrstt ttiime II hearrd anytthiing;; II was unawarre off tthiis meettiing tthatt peoplle
  he gun Th s s he s me hea d any h ng was unawa e o h s mee ng ha peop e
have spoken off,, iin whiich tthe bllack pllayerrs pllanned tto brriing guns tto Legiion Fiielld and att
 have spoken o n wh ch he b ack p aye s p anned o b ng guns o Leg on F e d and a
tthe llastt miinutte diidn'tt..
  he as m nu e d dn'
My unclle back tthen was Unclle Cllaude.. He was marrrriied and had ttwo daughtterrs.. II was
 My unc e back hen was Unc e C aude He was ma ed and had wo daugh e s was
cllose tto tthem.. My mottherr and my grrandmottherr wentt back ffrrom L..A.. tto see tthatt game,,
 c ose o hem My mo he and my g andmo he wen back om L A o see ha game
and Cllaude was verry happy tthatt II had a good game.. Cllaude was a miiniistterr.. As fforr tthe
 and C aude was ve y happy ha had a good game C aude was a m n s e As o he
rrolle off Chrriisttiianiitty iin tthatt game,, II’’m nott surre;; II tthiink iitt had a llott tto do wiitth iitt.. Follks iin
   o e o Ch s an y n ha game m no su e h nk had a o o do w h Fo ks n
tthe Soutth diid have a llott on ttheiirr miinds.. As fforr me,, II'm deffiiniittelly a Chrriisttiian and belliieve
  he Sou h d d have a o on he m nds As o me 'm de n e y a Ch s an and be eve
  n he edemp ve powe o Ch s t 's a owed me o be o g v ng o hose who've
iin tthe rredempttiive powerr off Chrriistt.. IIt's alllowed me tto be fforrgiiviing tto tthose who've
"ttrrespassed" agaiinstt me and alllows me tto belliieve tthey can be rredeemed tthrrough
 " espassed" aga ns me and a ows me o be eve hey can be edeemed h ough
fforrgiiveness..
   o g veness
                ’ m no am a w h Bea B yan s “ h s he e s a oo ba p aye ” s o y was
               II’m nott ffamiilliiarr wiitth Bearr Brryantt’’s “tthiis herre’’s a ffoottballl pllayerr” sttorry.. II was

bllockiing fforr Cunniingham.. II was on my fface mostt off tthe ttiime,, bllockiing fforr Sam.. II’’d llook
b ock ng o Cunn ngham was on my ace mos o he me b ock ng o Sam d ook

up,, and Sam woulld be rrunniing overr ttwo peoplle.. Sam and II werre good ffrriiends.. Sam had a
up and Sam wou d be unn ng ove wo peop e Sam and we e good ends Sam had a

good game.. He was a young pllayerr .. .. .. II llooked att hiim as anottherr ttallentted pllayerr..
good game He was a young p aye                    ooked a h m as ano he a en ed p aye



Clarence Davis had the daunting task of replacing the great Heisman Trophy

tailback, O. J. Simpson, at USC in 1969. Clarence made All-American in his first

season (1969); was All-Pacific-8 Conference in 1969 and '70; was a member of

USC's unbeaten 1969 "Wild Bunch" (also known as the "Cardiac Kids") team that

defeated Michigan in the Rose Bowl; and played in the famed 1970 win at Alabama
credited with Tackling Segregation (the title of a CBS/College Sports TV

documentary, 2006). After playing in the 1971 Senior Bowl, Davis was drafted by

the Oakland Raiders and caught Kenny Stabler’s desperate, last-second toss into

the end zone, despite having a "sea of hands" of the Miami Dolphins draped around

him, to win a key 1974 AFC play-off game. He is one of seven Trojans who played

for the 1976 world champion Raiders that defeated Minnesota (with Trojans Ron

Yary and Steve Riley) in the Super Bowl at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. Clarence is

a legend in both the Trojan Nation and the Raider Nation.



                                             SAM DICKERSON
                                             SAM DICKERSON

                                                     Splliitt End
                                                     Sp End

1968 -- 1970
1968 1970


II was borrn iin Texas butt grrew up iin Sttocktton,, Calliifforrniia,, wherre II atttended Frranklliin Hiigh..
   was bo n n Texas bu g ew up n S ock on Ca o n a whe e a ended F ank n H gh
II was an end and deffensiive back att Frranklliin.. John McKay rrecrruiitted atthllettes,, tthen ffound a
   was an end and de ens ve back a F ank n John McKay ec u ed a h e es hen ound a
posiittiion fforr us.. II ended up beiing a rreceiiverr.. He brroughtt Bobby Chandllerr iin and diidn'tt
 pos on o us ended up be ng a ece ve He b ough Bobby Chand e n and d dn'
know wherre tto pllay hiim.. He was a quarrtterrback and a deffensiive back when tthey brroughtt
 know whe e o p ay h m He was a qua e back and a de ens ve back when hey b ough
hiim iin,, and he ended up beiing a sttarr wiide rreceiiverr iin tthe Rose Bowll and tthe NFL..
 h m n and he ended up be ng a s a w de ece ve n he Rose Bow and he NFL
             Jiimmy Jones and II werre alll rriightt offff tthe ffiielld.. We pllayed a llott off baskettballll,, and
              J mmy Jones and we e a gh o he e d We p ayed a o o baske ba and
as II say McKay rrecrruiitted atthllettes,, so we had a llott off ttwo--sporrtt pllayerrs.. Thiis iincrreased
 as say McKay ec u ed a h e es so we had a o o wo spo p aye s Th s nc eased
camarraderriie and keptt us ttogettherr.. As fforr Jones beiing a "brreaktthrrough" bllack quarrtterrback,,
 cama ade e and kep us oge he As o Jones be ng a "b eak h ough" b ack qua e back
II know Wiillliie Wood was a quarrtterrback and tteam capttaiin att USC a decade orr morre
   know W e Wood was a qua e back and eam cap a n a USC a decade o mo e
earrlliierr.. Maybe Jones was tthe ffiirrstt "moderrn" bllack quarrtterrback who was a drrop--back
 ea e Maybe Jones was he s "mode n" b ack qua e back who was a d op back
passerr,, butt iiff ffllushed outt off tthe pockett he coulld rrun and show allll--arround atthllettiiciism..
 passe bu               ushed ou o he pocke he cou d un and show a a ound a h e c sm
             Jones had lleaderrshiip qualliittiies butt tthe coaches had hiim wrrapped up,, so everrytthiing
              Jones had eade sh p qua es bu he coaches had h m w apped up so eve y h ng
tthatt came tthrrough hiim was ffrrom tthe coaches.. He had conffiidence,, and he possessed
  ha came h ough h m was om he coaches He had con dence and he possessed
lleaderrshiip abiilliitty.. He had diispllayed lleaderrshiip iin hiigh schooll and brroughtt iitt on tto USC,,
  eade sh p ab y He had d sp ayed eade sh p n h gh schoo and b ough on o USC
so iiff you miix tthatt wiitth alll tthe ottherrs,, who werre wiinnerrs tthe majjorriitty off ttheiirr lliives,, iitt was
 so you m x ha w h a he o he s who we e w nne s he ma o y o he ves was
cohesiive,, and we alll executted whatt we werre supposed tto do..
 cohes ve and we a execu ed wha we we e supposed o do
             Jiimmy diid have on--ffiielld charriisma,, and you coulld see hiis lleaderrshiip iin baskettballll,,
              J mmy d d have on e d cha sma and you cou d see h s eade sh p n baske ba
tthe way he rran tthe offffense.. Jones keptt hiis composurre and had alll tthe conffiidence iin tthe
  he way he an he o ense Jones kep h s composu e and had a he con dence n he
worrlld,, and tthatt carrrriied overr..
 wo d and ha ca ed ove
             Regarrdiing tthatt game iin Biirrmiingham,, tthey,, tthe ottherr bllack atthllettes,, had sometthiing
              Rega d ng ha game n B m ngham hey he o he b ack a h e es had some h ng
  o wo y abou bu d dn unde s and t wasn' ha way n Ca o n a you g ow and
tto worrrry aboutt butt II diidn''tt underrsttand iitt.. IIt wasn'tt tthatt way iin Calliifforrniia,, you grrow and

hearrd aboutt segrregattiion butt you don'tt lliive iitt.. Afftterr II grrew up and became ffrriiends wiitth
hea d abou seg ega on bu you don' ve A e g ew up and became ends w h

peoplle who lliived iin tthe Soutth,, you come tto llearrn morre.. II llearrned aboutt iiff II''d sttayed iin
peop e who ved n he Sou h you come o ea n mo e ea ned abou                                      d s ayed n

Texas,, wherre II was borrn,, II woulld have known tthatt siittuattiion..
Texas whe e was bo n wou d have known ha s ua on

IIff II''d sttayed iin Texas,, II woulld have been bused tto tthe schooll my mom wentt tto.. II go tto my
         d s ayed n Texas wou d have been bused o he schoo my mom wen o go o my
mom's rreuniions and ffiind outt allll tthe tthiings tthatt woulld have happened had II sttayed iin
 mom's eun ons and nd ou a he h ngs ha wou d have happened had s ayed n
Texas..
 Texas
As fforr tthe questtiion off how much off a rrolle Chrriisttiianiitty pllayed iin tthe Soutth changiing,, II
 As o he ques on o how much o a o e Ch s an y p ayed n he Sou h chang ng
llook ffiirrstt tto Reverrend Kiing.. He had a grreatt iimpactt on tthe ciiviill rriightts movementt.. Att tthatt
   ook s o Reve end K ng He had a g ea mpac on he c v gh s movemen A ha
ttiime,, you know,, ttherre werre tthe Bllack Panttherrs,, who wantted tto ffiightt ffiirre wiitth ffiirre.. Ottherrs
    me you know he e we e he B ack Pan he s who wan ed o gh e w h e O he s
saw tthe diiviidiing lliine,, now whatt Kiing saw was "no viiollence.."
 saw he d v d ng ne now wha K ng saw was "no v o ence "
As fforr tthe meettiing iin tthatt rroom,, when tthe bllack pllayerrs tthrreattened tto brriing guns tto tthe
 As o he mee ng n ha oom when he b ack p aye s h ea ened o b ng guns o he
Allabama game,, II don'tt rrememberr iiff iitt happened.. II may have been ttherre,, butt iiff so diid II say
 A abama game don' emembe                              happened may have been he e bu so d d say
"Whatt do you tthiink iis gonna happen?" IItt doesn'tt sttiick outt iin my miind.. II diidn'tt tthiink
 "Wha do you h nk s gonna happen?" doesn' s ck ou n my m nd d dn' h nk
anybody woulld come and bllow us up.. II don'tt know,, a llott off sttuffff may have happened,, butt
 anybody wou d come and b ow us up don' know a o o s u may have happened bu
II had no cllue.. The sttrrangestt tthiing was when we gott on tthe bus tto ttrravell tto tthe sttadiium,,
    had no c ue The s anges h ng was when we go on he bus o ave o he s ad um
and on tthe way tto tthe bus a rrope was sett up bettween specttattorrs and us,, a patth tto wallk,,
 and on he way o he bus a ope was se up be ween spec a o s and us a pa h o wa k
and peoplle on tthe ottherr siide werre ttallkiing,, "Therre's tthe Bearr meatt.."
 and peop e on he o he s de we e a k ng "The e's he Bea mea "
II don'tt rrememberr Bearr Brryantt comiing iin tto ourr llockerr rroom.. II woulld do my bestt and ttrry
    don' emembe Bea B yan com ng n o ou ocke oom wou d do my bes and y
nott tto miiss tthe bus.. We'd have ourr prrayerr,, now go back and parrtty.. II neverr hearrd aboutt
 no o m ss he bus We'd have ou p aye now go back and pa y neve hea d abou
"tthiis herre's a ffoottballll pllayerr" unttiill II saw a viideo..
 " h s he e's a oo ba p aye " un                     saw a v deo
II pllayed wiitth Allabama quarrtterrback Scottt Huntterr att Grreen Bay.. He jjustt saiid,, "Hey,, you
    p ayed w h A abama qua e back Sco Hun e a G een Bay He us sa d "Hey you
guys came down herre and clleaned ourr cllocks.." We ttallked aboutt how tthatt game wentt and
 guys came down he e and c eaned ou c ocks " We a ked abou how ha game wen and
we kiicked ttheiirr buttts.. We werren'tt rrealllly expecttiing a bllowoutt 'cause we'd had a llott off
 we k cked he bu s We we en' ea y expec ng a b owou 'cause we'd had a o o
comebacks iin '69.. Thatt was tthe yearr II made a cattch iin tthe darrk corrnerr off tthe end zone tto
 comebacks n '69 Tha was he yea made a ca ch n he da k co ne o he end zone o
beatt UCLA,, 14--12..
 bea UCLA 14 12


Sam Diickerson iis a USC llegend,, butt don''tt menttiion hiis name iin Westtwood.. In 1969,,
Sam D ckerson s a USC egend bu don men on h s name n Wes wood In 1969

afftter a conttroversiiall pass iintterfference calll wentt agaiinstt tthe Bruiins,, he caughtt a llong
a er a con rovers a pass n er erence ca wen aga ns he Bru ns he caugh a ong

pass iin tthe very back corner off tthe end zone ffrom Jiimmy Jones tto giive tthe Trojjans a
pass n he very back corner o he end zone rom J mmy Jones o g ve he Tro ans a

14--12 viicttory over UCLA.. The game charactteriized SC''s "Cardiiac Kiids" reputtattiion..
14 12 v c ory over UCLA The game charac er zed SC s "Card ac K ds" repu a on

Diickerson pllayed iin tthe Seniior Bowll and was drafftted by tthe 49ers iin 1971..
D ckerson p ayed n he Sen or Bow and was dra ed by he 49ers n 1971


                                                JEFF PRUGH
                                                JEFF PRUGH

Sporttswriitter
Spor swr er
II co--autthorred ((wiitth Dwiightt Chapiin)) The Wiizard off Westtwood,, a book aboutt John
   co au ho ed w h Dw gh Chap n The W zard o Wes wood a book abou John

Wooden and UCLA baskettballll tthatt addrressed sociiall questtiions rrevollviing arround colllege
Wooden and UCLA baske ba ha add essed soc a ques ons evo v ng a ound co ege

sttudentts iin L..A.. II allso wrrotte The Herschell Wallker Sttory,, whiich dealls att llengtth wiitth tthe
s uden s n L A a so w o e The Hersche Wa ker S ory wh ch dea s a eng h w h he

ciiviill rriightts aspectt off sporrtts iin tthe Soutth..
c v gh s aspec o spo s n he Sou h

          I was the L.A. Times’s beat writer for Trojan football and wrote the game story

that appeared under Jim Murray’s column, “Hatred Shut Out as Alabama Finally Joins

the Union,” on September 13, 1970. It was very clear in talking to Bryant that he

understood the social implications of this game. He volunteered that he was bemoaning

the fact that USC had Clarence Davis at tailback, that he was born in Birmingham, and he

was one who got away. Davis was the symbolism that Bryant was trying to convey. If

Davis had stayed in Alabama all those years, he’d’ve been at [the University of]

Alabama.

          The 1970 USC–Allabama game iis a sttorry tthatt ffew peoplle saw as siigniiffiicantt att tthe
          The 1970 USC–A abama game s a s o y ha ew peop e saw as s gn can a he

ttiime.. Murrrray diid,, butt neiittherr off us rreallly knew how siigniiffiicantt iitt woulld be overr tthe
    me Mu ay d d bu ne he o us ea y knew how s gn can wou d be ove he

ffutturre yearrs.. IItt was easiierr fforr Jiim,, butt botth he and II sensed,, wiitthoutt sayiing iitt,, tthatt Brryantt
  u u e yea s was eas e o J m bu bo h he and sensed w hou say ng                                            ha B yan

was “crrazy lliike a ffox..” To pllay tthiis game att Legiion Fiielld,, as you know,, wiitth tthe hiisttorry
was “c azy ke a ox ” To p ay h s game a Leg on F e d as you know w h he h s o y

off rraciism iin tthe Soutth sttiilll verry ffrresh and verry much alliive att tthatt ttiime.. The onlly sporrtt
o ac sm n he Sou h s ve y esh and ve y much a ve a ha me The on y spo

tthatt had iinttegrratted was baskettballl,, and tthatt was verry lliimiitted..
  ha had n eg a ed was baske ba and ha was ve y m ed

A lliitttlle anecdotte iis,, II rreporrtted tthiis on tthe Monday ffolllow--up,, II was att tthe Holliiday IInn iin
 A         e anecdo e s epo ed h s on he Monday o ow up was a he Ho day nn n
Biirrmiingham,, and men werre siitttiing arround tthe ttablle,, obviiouslly ffoottballl ffans.. II overrhead
 B m ngham and men we e s ng a ound he ab e obv ous y oo ba ans ove head
botth men say,, “II bett Bearr wiishes he had some off tthem niigrra boys on ttheiirr tteam..” Thatt
 bo h men say “ be Bea w shes he had some o hem n g a boys on he eam ” Tha
was tthe new senttiimentt,, tthe postt--morrttem,, and iitt was rrevolluttiionarry.. IItt was obviious tthatt
 was he new sen men he pos mo em and was evo u ona y was obv ous ha
tthiings werre goiing tto change ffrrom tthatt day fforrwarrd,, butt II coulld nott anttiiciipatte tthe pace
  h ngs we e go ng o change om ha day o wa d bu cou d no an c pa e he pace
and speed off change..
 and speed o change
Latterr,, II wentt tto Attllantta tto become ourr burreau chiieff ttherre.. II coverred polliittiics iin tthe Soutth,,
 La e wen o A an a o become ou bu eau ch e he e cove ed po cs n he Sou h
iin Allabama and Attllantta.. II iintterrviiewed Georrge Walllace iin hiis "comeback" and he poiintted
  n A abama and A an a n e v ewed Geo ge Wa ace n h s "comeback" and he po n ed
outt tthatt iin Calliifforrniia we had rrace rriiotts yett werre quiitte jjudgmenttall.. II allso rrevealled tthe ffactt
 ou ha n Ca o n a we had ace o s ye we e qu e udgmen a a so evea ed he ac
tthatt when Wallllace made hiis ffamed "sttand iin tthe schoollhouse doorr" tto bllock iinttegrrattiion
  ha when Wa ace made h s amed "s and n he schoo house doo " o b ock n eg a on
off tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Allabama iin 1963,, he was postturriing.. He had made a deall wiitth tthe
 o he Un ve s y o A abama n 1963 he was pos u ng He had made a dea w h he
Kennedy Admiiniisttrrattiion ahead off ttiime tto allllow tthe sttudentts tto enrrolll,, butt was pllayiing tto
 Kennedy Adm n s a on ahead o me o a ow he s uden s o en o bu was p ay ng o
tthe senttiimentts off hiis polliittiicall base..
  he sen men s o h s po ca base
          II allso belliieve tthatt Wayne Wiillliiams was rraiillrroaded as tthe serriiall chiilld murrderrerr iin
              a so be eve ha Wayne W ams was a oaded as he se a ch d mu de e n

Attllantta,, and wrrotte a book aboutt iitt callled The Liistt.. II diiscoverred tthatt rraciiall polliittiics had
A an a and w o e a book abou ca ed The L s d scove ed ha ac a po cs had

changed exponenttiialllly siince tthe 1960s,, and now bllacks werre iin posiittiions off powerr..
changed exponen a y s nce he 1960s and now b acks we e n pos ons o powe

Suddenlly,, tthey ttoo coulld be corrrruptted,, and lliike allll human beiings tthey werre jjustt as
Sudden y hey oo cou d be co up ed and ke a human be ngs hey we e us as

subjjectt tto tthe seducttiions off powerr..
sub ec o he seduc ons o powe



Jeff Prugh was the L.A. Times’s beat writer for Trojan football and wrote the game

story that appeared under Jim Murray’s column, “Hatred Shut Out as Alabama

Finally Joins the Union,” on September 13, 1970. He is the author of The Wizard of

Westwood, The Herschel Walker Story, and The List.



                                           BRUCE ROLLINSON
                                           BRUCE ROLLINSON

Fllanker
F anker
1971
1971


II grrew up iin Garrden Grrove and came outt off Matterr Deii iin 1967.. II grraduatted ffrrom tthe
   g ew up n Ga den G ove and came ou o Ma e De n 1967 g adua ed om he
Uniiverrsiitty off Souttherrn Calliifforrniia iin 1972..
 Un ve s y o Sou he n Ca o n a n 1972
         Jiim Fassell was a ffellllow Orrange Countty pllayerr and tteammatte off miine att USC.. He
          J m Fasse was a e ow O ange Coun y p aye and eamma e o m ne a USC He

was ffrrom Anaheiim Hiigh Schooll.. Jiimmy and II werre prrettty cllose.. We don'tt speak as
was om Anahe m H gh Schoo J mmy and we e p e y c ose We don' speak as

ffrrequenttlly as II'd lliike.. As you gett ollderr you gett iintto a rrouttiine.. Jiimmy and II drrove back
    equen y as 'd ke As you ge o de you ge n o a ou ne J mmy and d ove back

and fforrtth ffrrom Orrange Countty tto USC durriing tthe shorrtt perriiod he was att SC.. II knew hiis
and o h om O ange Coun y o USC du ng he sho pe od he was a SC knew h s

dad.. He was tthe equiipmentt man att Anaheiim Hiigh Schooll.. We had a llott off ttiime tto ttallk tto
dad He was he equ pmen man a Anahe m H gh Schoo We had a o o me o a k o

each ottherr,, tthen he moved on tto Hawaiii orr Call Sttatte Long Beach.. He was ttallentted butt tthe
each o he hen he moved on o Hawa o Ca S a e Long Beach He was a en ed bu he
systtem att tthatt ttiime was nott suiitted tto hiim orr guys lliike us.. Mysellff,, II pllayed iin a systtem
sys em a ha me was no su ed o h m o guys ke us Myse                                     p ayed n a sys em

tthatt was sttiillll ffrreshman ffoottballl.. Jiim ttrransfferrrred iin ffrrom Fulllerrtton J..C.. Back tthen,, USC
  ha was s               eshman oo ba J m ans e ed n om Fu e on J C Back hen USC

had unlliimiitted schollarrshiips.. Therre werre niine miillliion off us outt ttherre.. The Hawaiii phone
had un m ed scho a sh ps The e we e n ne m on o us ou he e The Hawa phone

numberr was postted on everry phone att Marrks Towerr,, allmostt lliike iitt was callliing us outt off
numbe was pos ed on eve y phone a Ma ks Towe a mos ke was ca ng us ou o

ttherre.. Forr me perrsonalllly,, jjustt lliike everry guy iin ttherre,, II had hiigh hopes off beiing a sttarrtterr,,
  he e Fo me pe sona y us ke eve y guy n he e had h gh hopes o be ng a s a e

butt II allso rrealliized educattiion was iimporrttantt..
bu a so ea zed educa on was mpo an

Jiimmy coulld tthrrow iitt iin a systtem tthatt was iinttactt fforr hiim.. II'm a biig John McKay
 J mmy cou d h ow n a sys em ha was n ac o h m 'm a b g John McKay
 advoca e He was a by me t was ough a hose mes when you have m ed
advocatte.. He was ffaiirr by me.. IIt was ttough att tthose ttiimes when you have lliimiitted
opporrttuniitty.. IIff you diidn'tt ttake advanttage off iitt you may neverr see tthe ffiielld agaiin.. Thatt's
 oppo un y you d dn' ake advan age o you may neve see he e d aga n Tha 's
tthe way iitt was.. II quiicklly rrealliize tthatt ffiighttiing pastt tthe Bob Chandllerr's was an uphiilll batttlle..
   he way was qu ck y ea ze ha gh ng pas he Bob Chand e 's was an uph ba e
IIn my llastt yearr II tthoughtt,, now II'lll gett a chance tto pllay,, and Lynn Swann's ahead off me..
   n my as yea hough now ' ge a chance o p ay and Lynn Swann's ahead o me
Arre you kiiddiing? II tthoughtt II'd gett pllayiing ttiime butt my name was errased ffrrom tthe deptth
 A e you k dd ng? hough 'd ge p ay ng me bu my name was e ased om he dep h
charrtt.. He was a ttrremendous pllayerr,, butt you asked aboutt Jiim.. He coulld tthrrow tto cerrttaiin
 cha He was a emendous p aye bu you asked abou J m He cou d h ow o ce a n
guys.. Each guy had tto make hiis own deciisiion.. II'm nott surre why he ttrransfferrrred,, butt
 guys Each guy had o make h s own dec s on 'm no su e why he ans e ed bu
obviiouslly he made good moves,, jjustt lliike anottherr tteammatte,, Miike Hollmgrren.. Hollmgrren
 obv ous y he made good moves us ke ano he eamma e M ke Ho mg en Ho mg en
coached Grreen Bay tto a Superr Bowll viicttorry.. Fassell coached tthe New Yorrk Giiantts tto a
 coached G een Bay o a Supe Bow v c o y Fasse coached he New Yo k G an s o a
Superr Bowll..
 Supe Bow
Therre's been specullattiion tthatt afftterr John Huarrtte off Matterr Deii and Jack Snow off Stt..
 The e's been specu a on ha a e John Hua e o Ma e De and Jack Snow o S
Antthony''s sttarrrred att Nottrre Dame,, McKay -- who was Cattholliic and grrew up rroottiing fforr tthe
 An hony s s a ed a No e Dame McKay who was Ca ho c and g ew up oo ng o he
IIrriish -- deciided tto prre--emptt deffecttiions and go afftterr tthe Cattholliic schoolls iin Souttherrn
      sh dec ded o p e emp de ec ons and go a e he Ca ho c schoo s n Sou he n
Calliifforrniia.. Cerrttaiinlly pllayerrs ffrrom Matterr Deii,, Biishop Amatt,, Loyolla,, Nottrre Dame off
 Ca o n a Ce a n y p aye s om Ma e De B shop Ama Loyo a No e Dame o
Sherrman Oaks,, Crrespii,, and ffrrom tthe Bay Arrea;; Serrrra,, Stt.. Frranciis,, Riiorrdan and llatterr De
 She man Oaks C esp and om he Bay A ea Se a S F anc s R o dan and a e De
La Salllle,, sttarrtted comiing tto USC.. Toby Page,, Adrriian Young,, Patt Haden,, J..K.. McKay,,
 La Sa e s a ed com ng o USC Toby Page Ad an Young Pa Haden J K McKay
Paull McDonalld,, Tiim Rossoviich,, John Vellla,, Lynn Swann,, and tthe Jorrdan kiickiing
 Pau McDona d T m Rossov ch John Ve a Lynn Swann and he Jo dan k ck ng
brrottherrs,, arre jjustt a ffew off tthese guys..
 b o he s a e us a ew o hese guys
             Thatt saiid,, II don'tt know.. Diick Courry was my coach att Matterr Deii.. II llook att iitt tthiis
             Tha sa d don' know D ck Cou y was my coach a Ma e De                                 ook a      hs

way;; Courry goes tto USC and Toby Page,, II tthiink seven off us ffrrom Matterr Deii,, alll wentt
way Cou y goes o USC and Toby Page h nk seven o us om Ma e De a wen

wiitth hiim.. II was att Matterr Deii and he coached me iin 1965.. Frrom tthatt tteam att Matterr Deii
w h h m was a Ma e De and he coached me n 1965 F om ha eam a Ma e De

tthe seniiorr grroup had Ron Brrown,, Joe Obbema,, Biillll Smiitth,, a centterr.. We go tto USC afftterr
  he sen o g oup had Ron B own Joe Obbema B Sm h a cen e We go o USC a e

ourr seniiorr yearr iin hiigh schooll.. Courry's att USC and now herre comes Miike Morrgan,, Brruce
ou sen o yea n h gh schoo Cou y's a USC and now he e comes M ke Mo gan B uce

Rolllliinson,, Stteve Pullttorrak;; siix guys and overr tthe nextt ttwo yearrs maybe a ffew ottherr guys..
Ro nson S eve Pu o ak s x guys and ove he nex wo yea s maybe a ew o he guys

IItt seems tthatt iiff whatt McKay iinttended,, whiich was tto gett tthe bestt pllayerrs ffrrom Matterr Deii,,
     seems ha wha McKay n ended wh ch was o ge he bes p aye s om Ma e De

whiich was lloaded .. .. .. he getts tthrree morre,, he getts John Vellla ffrrom Nottrre Dame Hiigh,, he
wh ch was oaded             he ge s h ee mo e he ge s John Ve a om No e Dame H gh he
had an advanttage att Biishop Amatt wiitth hiis kiid ttherre,, so he cerrttaiinlly seemed tto have
had an advan age a B shop Ama w h h s k d he e so he ce a n y seemed o have

llocked up tthe "Cattholliic votte.."
  ocked up he "Ca ho c vo e "

         II don'tt choose tto belliieve tthatt McKay hiirred Coach Courry siimplly tto gett tthose
            don' choose o be eve ha McKay h ed Coach Cou y s mp y o ge hose

pllayerrs.. The rreason II say tthatt iis because iitt ffasciinattes me tto rreffllectt back att allll tthe tthiings
p aye s The eason say ha s because asc na es me o e ec back a a he h ngs

tthatt wentt on,, tto llook att hiis ffoottballl sttaffffs wiitth Joe Giibbs,, Hudson Houck,, Wayne Fonttes;;
  ha wen on o ook a h s oo ba s a s w h Joe G bbs Hudson Houck Wayne Fon es

he llooked fforr tthe bestt ffoottballll coaches avaiillablle.. Cllaiirr Van Horrvatth and Courry werre tthe
he ooked o he bes oo ba coaches ava ab e C a Van Ho va h and Cou y we e he

cuttttiing edge hiigh schooll coaches off tthatt erra.. These coaches werre mottiioniing outt off a
cu ng edge h gh schoo coaches o ha e a These coaches we e mo on ng ou o a

siinglle back tto whatt iis now an emptty ffllatt,, rrunniing mottiion and pllay--acttiion bllastts,, dellays,,
s ng e back o wha s now an emp y a unn ng mo on and p ay ac on b as s de ays

sttuffff you diidn'tt see iin hiigh schooll befforre.. Prrep ffoottballl was prriimiittiive.. Coaches werre
s u you d dn' see n h gh schoo be o e P ep oo ba was p m ve Coaches we e

tthese biig meatty ttough guys,, tthey diidn'tt llett you drriink watterr,, iinjjurriies werre tto be guttted outt,,
  hese b g mea y ough guys hey d dn' e you d nk wa e n u es we e o be gu ed ou

butt tthe guys II''m ttallkiing aboutt werre iinnovattorrs..
bu he guys m a k ng abou we e nnova o s

 McKay just looked at Dick and said, "This guy knows football," and plus he was a heck
of good person. If there was a plus, of players coming in with him, then that was just a
win-win situation. Back then obviously a high school guy, they'd look at a high school
guy, but he's not moving straight into the University and play because freshmen were
ineligible. SC's rolling by then. I was heavily recruited by other Pacific-8 schools.
Oregon came at me with a full effort, but my SC trip was simple. They'd show you the
national championship ring from 1962 or 1967, and they'd say:
Do you want one of these?
Do you want to play in the Rose Bowl?
Do you want to play against UCLA and at Notre Dame every two years?
Do you want to play in front of 90,000 fans?
Who didn't? When Pete Carroll got there things were changed and he had to build it back
to where it was. He did it in large measure with two of my all-time best players, Matt
Leinart and Matt Grootegoed. Leinart's best performance was the 2000 game against De
La Salle of Concord in front of some 30 or 40,000 fans at Edison International Field of
Anaheim, the "Big A."
There are people who say it was the best high school football game ever played. De La
Salle had the longest winning streak of all time, but critics claimed they did not play the
best schedule. To their credit they started playing us, Long Beach Poly, all the best teams
from around the nation. A lot of these games are still shown on Fox Sports cable. De La
Salle had a huge lead but Matt "went passing league" and drove us back, but we missed at
the end and De La Salle went on to extend their winning streak three or four more years,
but that game helped separate Matt from the rest of the pack and propelled him to the
next level.
After John Huarte of Santa Ana Mater Dei High School, and Jack Snow of Long
Beach St. Anthony's became stars at Notre Dame, USC started to stem the tide of
great Catholic players from the Los Angeles area going to Notre Dame. John
McKay hired Mater Dei Coach Dick Coury, and players like Mater Dei's Bruce
Rollinson followed. Rollinson never starred at Troy, but as Mater Dei's longtime
football coach, he built a national power and must be considered one of the five
greatest prep coaches who ever lived. Numerous Monarchs have starred at Troy,
amongst them Matt Leinart and Matt Grootegoed.


                           BUD 'THE STEAMER" FURILLO

Sportswriter/broadcaster


I'll tell you a story about USC. I once took a bus and two streetcars to see a Howard Jones

practice in 1940. I lived in Monterey Park. A bus and two streetcars.

        I was with Sam Cunningham last year when they introduced me in the USC Hall
of Fame. I was so sick with allergies. I saw Sam at the peristyle end of the Coliseum.
        John Papadakis had his best game against Joe Theismann in that rainy Notre
Dame game. His grandfather, Tom, and I were great buddies. He's got a great Greek
restaurant down there in Pedro.
        The last time I saw John McKay in the desert, he said, "You're a part of Trojan
history." Wow!
        Bill "Spaceman" Lee was so funny and "Tom Terrific" Seaver was "the noblest
baseball Trojan of them all." I said that about him when I interviewed him on KABC
years ago.
        I came out to the game at Birmingham in 1970. The reason for this game was

Bryant wanted those people to know it was time to integrate. I believe he knew he'd lose

and wanted that game to pave the way to change.

That Alabama game was a tipping point; that was it, no question, after that game it was
no longer acceptable to prevent integration, and this game did it.
Martin Luther King may be the greatest American, but that football game sure as hell
turned Alabama around. Regarding the political fallout since then, well, there's not many
"blue states." California and the Northeast. I like to think those liberal bastions are also
homes of a lot of intelligence. I can't speak for the "red states." As you know, I'm the
damnedest liberal you've ever known. But W is the President, and he's my President.
The thing I hated is Democrats hating Bush. The day after the election I stopped hating
Bush, he's my President. It’s that simple, to think otherwise is almost to be a traitor. I hate
 the war, I'm ashamed of our being there, I cry for our kids coming back in bags.
 I believe the South wanted to do the right thing, but there sure were a lot of holdouts for a
 long time, but Jeez. I'm so anti-religion, maybe I better pass on this, I don't think religion
 had a damn thing to do with it. I think Martin Luther King was the best American we
 ever had, but not because of religion.
 The key, and you are right on, was that the Alabama faithful looked at McKay and knew
 that he had Bear's respect, it had to carry a lot of weight. They just said, "If it's good
 enough for the Bear, well it's good enough for us."
 Let's get to what I said, I heard different takes on what Alabama assistant coach Jerry
 Claiborne said, but it was something like, "Sam did more in an hour than has been done
 in the last hundred years." He said it, and I said it, but I'm foggy on it.
 Still, Bryant was not the kind of guy to put players on a stool, but the reason for that
 game was to show those f-----s down there what was going on in football and that it was
 time to change. I wanna emphasize, McKay eased up.
 The greatest football game ever played was USC 55, Notre Dame 24 in 1974. I
 announced that game for a delayed broadcast on Sunday afternoons with Ray Scott, who
 was the longtime voice of the Packers. That game is available on the Internet and is a real
 legend.
II saiid iitt tthen and II sttiilll say iitt now:: "IIff Amerriica wantts tto cllean up tthe drrug prrobllem,, jjustt
    sa d hen and s say now " Ame ca wan s o c ean up he d ug p ob em us
have tthem wattch tthiis game.. They'lll gett so hiigh tthey'lll neverr wanna do drrugs agaiin!!"
 have hem wa ch h s game They' ge so h gh hey' neve wanna do d ugs aga n "
Liistten tto whatt Ray and II arre sayiing att tthe end off tthe game;; tthe llook off amazementt on tthe
 L s en o wha Ray and a e say ng a he end o he game he ook o amazemen on he
ffaces off ffans,, tthe cheerrlleaderrs goiing ffrrom downcastt tto ecsttattiic.. IItt was lliike a rrelliigiious
   aces o ans he chee eade s go ng om downcas o ecs a c was ke a e g ous
experriience.. Ray saiid,, and tthiis guy saw Lombarrdii''s Packerrs,, tthatt he'd neverr seen anottherr
 expe ence Ray sa d and h s guy saw Lomba d s Packe s ha he'd neve seen ano he
game lliike iitt..
 game ke


Bud Furiillllo iis ttrully one off tthe allll--ttiime greatts.. A nattiive off tthe Miidwestt,, he came tto
 Bud Fur o s ru y one o he a                       me grea s A na ve o he M dwes he came o
Los Angelles priior tto Worlld War II,, and hiis entthusiiasttiic wriittiings hellped putt USC,,
 Los Ange es pr or o Wor d War II and h s en hus as c wr ngs he ped pu USC
and L..A.. sportts iin generall,, on tthe map.. Bud was tthe sportts ediittor att tthe Los Angelles
 and L A spor s n genera on he map Bud was he spor s ed or a he Los Ange es
Heralld--Examiiner and llatter was a radiio personalliitty on KABC''s Dodger Tallk.. Furiilllo
 Hera d Exam ner and a er was a rad o persona y on KABC s Dodger Ta k Fur o
iis a tthrowback tto a ttiime when wriitters were ffriiends wiitth tthe pllayers and coaches,, nott
  s a hrowback o a me when wr ers were r ends w h he p ayers and coaches no
riivalls or nuiisances.. He iis siingullarlly responsiiblle ffor makiing Bo Belliinsky off tthe
 r va s or nu sances He s s ngu ar y respons b e or mak ng Bo Be nsky o he
Angells a cause cellebre.. He was allso an unabashed ffan off tthe Uniiversiitty off Soutthern
 Ange s a cause ce ebre He was a so an unabashed an o he Un vers y o Sou hern
Calliifforniia and never cared who knew iitt.. Bud was ellectted tto tthe USC Atthllettiic Halll off
 Ca orn a and never cared who knew Bud was e ec ed o he USC A h e c Ha o
Fame iin 2005 and conductted tthiis iintterviiew priior tto hiis 2006 passiing..
 Fame n 2005 and conduc ed h s n erv ew pr or o h s 2006 pass ng
 MR. SMITH GOES TO BUCHAREST

StreetZebra, 1999



In 1972, a mild-mannered young man from Pasadena High and USC faced a Cold War
Dracula on his Rumanian turf. Good vs. evil ensued. Good won.


The American gentleman
The U.S. was mired in Southeast Asia in 1972, and the Communist's were feeling pretty

good about themselves.

         Stan Smith was a typical Southern Californian. Tall, handsome and blonde, he

was a good basketball player at Pasadena High School before spearheading USC's

tennis team to national championships in 1966, '67 and '68.

"Stan was the kind of guy who'd play hurt," recalled legendary USC tennis coach George
Toley. "That's the kind of guy he was. I never had a problem with him."
Smith did some Army duty, went on to win Wimbledon, and attain a world number one
ranking.


…"thieving linesmen…from…the local eye bank…"
The Americans were used to playing it straight, fair and square, on the up and up,

because . . . because that is the way Americans do things. For the most part. The East

Bloc, on the other hand, had learned that lying, cheating and propaganda was good

business. The Rumanians, however, were led by two of the best players in the world at

that time: Transylvania's Ion "Dracula" Tiriac, and the recent winner of the U.S. Open,

Ilie "Nasty" Nastase.

         Some Left wing apologists have tried to say that there was Communism, and then

there was real Communism. Western journalists were duped into calling Bucharest a

"Balkanized Paris" featuring the works of Oscar Wilde and Ernest Hemingway. The

horrors of the Ceausescu regime were not yet fully revealed.

        Unsmiilliing secrett polliice "ttransllattors" accompaniied tthe Ameriicans everywhere,,
        Unsm ng secre po ce " rans a ors" accompan ed he Amer cans everywhere

ttottiing heavy weapons.. The attmosphere att tthe Progresull Sportts Cllub was lless tthan
  o ng heavy weapons The a mosphere a he Progresu Spor s C ub was ess han

congeniiall..
congen a

        IIn tthe Octtoberr 23,, 1972 ediittiion off Sporrtts II llusttrratted,, Curry Kiirkpattriick wrotte "tthe
          n he Oc obe 23 1972 ed on o Spo s l us a ed Curry K rkpa r ck wro e " he

Rumaniians,, llyiing iin waiitt on ttheiir home grounds wiitth a bunch off tthiieviing lliinesmen tthey
Ruman ans y ng n wa on he r home grounds w h a bunch o h ev ng nesmen hey
mustt have recruiitted ffrom tthe donor lliistt att tthe llocall eye bank,," were waiittiing ffor tthe
mus have recru ed rom he donor s a he oca eye bank " were wa ng or he

Ameriicans.. Liike tthe Soviiett parattrooper uniitt tthatt kiidnaps Larry Harvey and Frank
Amer cans L ke he Sov e para rooper un ha k dnaps Larry Harvey and Frank

Siinattra iin The Manchurriian Candiidatte.. Whatt ensued was a lliion''s den,, a snake piitt,, mob
S na ra n The Manchu an Cand da e Wha ensued was a on s den a snake p mob

menttalliitty..
men a y

           John Frankenheimer should have directed it.

"The red clay surface was not to our advantage," said Smith. "We were hard court guys.
What really made it tough was the Rumanians watered down the clay to slow us down.
The balls got heavy."
"We should be 10-1 favorite," Nastase said.
"The U.S. players not like the soft stuff," said Tiriac. "Wait till they see ours. Godzilla
<Smith>, he feel like he serving on the beach."
"The Davis Cup Committee forfeited the site of the finals to Romania for money," recalls
Toley. "Stan would throw the ball up and the crowd would yell `fault.' Nastase and Tiriac
would egg the people on like crazy, and if the ball hit anywhere close to the line the call
went against Stan. The line judges were all for the Rumanians. Stan felt that Nastase and
Tiriac did all they could to cheat."
SoCal Stan was more comfortable at the "beach" than Tiriac may have thought. After
Smith crushed Nastase in the opening singles, Nasty fell apart in the crucial doubles
against former Trojan Eric Van Dillen and Smith (captain Dennis Ralston had also
played at SC). Smith dispatched Tiriac on the final day.
Tiriac stalled, glared at umpires, sat down, refused to play, laughed, rested, fumed,
delayed, and even played some marvelous tennis. He was a master of guile and deceit,
playing the crowd like Hitler at Nuremberg while they chanted "TIR-I-AC," "TIR-I-AC,"
all the while hurling epithets at the referee. Tiriac tossed four-letter bombs at him, too. At
one point he grabbed and pushed him. He was, as he loved to say of himself, "Dracula . .
. ready to bite."
Bud Collins wrote that what was needed to defeat him was "a cross, not a racket." Only
the phalanx of "translators" prevented the "fans" from attacking the Americans when
they taunted Tiriac for his antics.
Smith and Van Dillen refused to be rattled. At one point, Nasty walked to the stands to
confront an American who loudly applauded Rumanian errors.
"Bitch," Nastase called him. "I pay you five dollars. You get out." By the end of the
Americans' three-set victory, Nastase refused to wait for Tiriac as the teams changed
courts.
Smith defeated Tiriac (4-6, 6-2, 6-4, 2-6, 6-0), despite being stripped clean of four
different points by the line judges.
"Tiriac was the issue," said Smith. "I beat Nastase pretty easily in the first match. Against
Tiriac, the referee said he wouldn't change calls. It was an alarming atmosphere, the
referee was totally intimidated, not so much by the crowd but by Tiriac stoking them on,
and by the soldiers' lining the court.
"I don't know how I persevered. I knew I just had to gut it out, and as the match went on
the crowd made me mad, and then I was determined to win. It was a great challenge."
Good vs. evil always is.


                                      DAVE LEVY

Assistant Coach
1960 - 1975


I really can't say I have a definitive answer from John McKay's perspective, but it seems

to me one day he said we'd scheduled a game with Bear Bryant to open the 1970 season.

He was associated with Bryant, beginning early in 1963 at a football clinic.

        What I remember was Bryant coming in to our locker room. He spoke to our

team. Now maybe I'm in the coach's dressing room, but after he congratulated us and so

on, he asked Coach for permission to take Sam Cunningham. I know it happened,

because I know I just looked at it and said, "I'll be damned." Add to that the euphoria of

winning the game, but after that you just are concentrating on getting dressed and getting

out of there.

I do remember a mostly black crowd around our team bus, but I didn't personally think it
so unusual. Our black players had relatives and friends in the area, and obviously they'd
not be congregated around the Alabama bus, so it's not really surprising that they'd be in
the parking lot, but I don't recall people holding Bibles.
I got dressed and got on the bus. The big thing before the game in the papers was that
"blacks are going down to Alabama" and so on, but I don't remember being concerned.
There were conversations about what hotel we'd be in, and their security, but Bear would
make sure there were no riots, so I had no concerns.
That said, I don't doubt the gun story. Maybe somebody said it or we got somebody with
guns, or something, but not everybody was "packing heat."
Society in 1965, as campuses went, SC was in the top one percentile of least problems.
It's a private, small university, I think we had less than 10,000 undergrads. Over time,
guys would grow their hair, they'd wear those medallions, campus dress was changing. In
1960 we still had a dress code. The dean would see a student in a tank top and send him
back to the dorm to get a shirt. It was nothing like Berkeley.
SC was a conservative campus. The only story I can think of concerned Marv Goux.
Some students arranged for a speaker named "Brother Lenny," a peripatetic type guy, a
beatnik I suppose, to speak at a sociology class. The class got canceled, I don’t know if
the professor heard about this guy and didn’t want him in the class. So he goes to Tommy
Trojan. Well, there's some kind of construction going on in the area, so there's a mound
of dirt. Brother Lenny got up to the top of this mound and gathered a crowd, a few
hundred maybe. He goes on for about 15 minutes. Marv and I were in McKay's office
looking out at this.
Goux said, "Look at that son of a b---h." He was a real patriot, his father had died in the
Battle of the Bulge. McKay says, "Let’s forget that, I'll see you after lunch." So that was
the last I thought about it until John McKay called me in and said, apparently Marv went
up and pushed his way through the crowd to Lenny, and said, "Why don't you get you’re
a-s out of here." Some are cheering Marv and others are calling him a Fascist.
The school president told McKay, "You gotta call Marv in."
"Now Marv, you know me and I feel like you do, but you've got two choices: apologize
or refuse." Marv says, "Let me think about it."
The next day he says, "I can't apologize." McKay told the president, I can't swear on it
but I think it was Dr. Norman Topping, and he just said, "Good."
That whole week, this whole thing is getting into the papers, first the Daily Trojan and
then the L.A. Times, with people writing in, some supporting him, some not, all various
opinions.
In the last 35 years, I recall in my career two specific conversations with athletes about
race. One was at Long Beach Poly, I remember talking to Willie Brown, who came to
USC, and another halfback at Poly. I said, you gotta use these athletics to get yourself out
and make something for yourselves. We talked prejudice and what they told me caught
me by surprise, but as I talked they agreed to some degree that what I was telling them
was true.
The next was Mike Garrett. I was the backfield coach. He's an intelligent guy, very
intense. He was trying to get an apartment in Pasadena, which at that time I think had no
blacks <it was the hometown of Jackie Robinson>. We talked about prejudice, me saying
to him if we can't allow people to change, nothing's going to change, that each
generation's raised with certain social mores, but if they're wrong they have to be able to
change. It was not an argument, just a good discussion.
We have to allow people to change. I saw alumni attitudes change. You could see it when
you got exposure to different kinds of personalities, as you saw people's performance, it
helped mores.
We hired Willie Brown as our first black coach. John McKay liked to get a guy we've
had, so he says, "How 'bout Willie Brown?" I think he said, "I'll do these things before
we're forced to." But he never, ever said, or asked, how many black guys are we starting?
         He was attuned to anything coming out of Stanford. He loved to beat Stanford by

2,000 points, it was just a thing he had for them because he thought they were hypocrites.

That was just one way he found to get ready for Stanford. McKay could get that game

face on in a hurry now, especially if the Stanford hecklers were calling him John.

Stanford was the perfect venue for these hecklers as we were making the gauntlet into the
stadium.


Dave Levy had played at UCLA, but was an assistant on John McKay's staff at

Southern California every year McKay was at USC (1960-75). He was long expected

to succeed McKay, but many were surprised that John Robinson was chosen

instead, ostensibly because he was "telegenic."



                                                DAVE BROWN

                                                       Center

1970 - 1972


That 1970 Alabama game was my first game - not as a team leader, but God was good to

me. . . . I was wide-eyed, a rookie getting off the plane. I’d never, ever even been to the

South; this was the first time I ever traveled. But I was up on current events, I knew about

the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King. They greet us with the Million-Dollar

Band, and I’d never seen anything like that in my life. People were surrounding us, and it

was a real big deal that Southern Cal had come to play Alabama. My eyes were wide, and

I was thinking, This is amazing. I just didn’t realize that people felt that highly of football

in the South. In Southern California, it’s different.

         Biilll Holllland,, an Affrriican--Amerriican ffrrom Los Angelles Hiigh Schooll and a superr
         B Ho and an A can Ame can om Los Ange es H gh Schoo and a supe

guy,, he was hangiing wiitth me mostt off tthiis ttiime.. II rrememberr diisttiincttlly seeiing tthiis one
guy he was hang ng w h me mos o h s me emembe d s nc y see ng h s one

pllace,, iitt llooked lliike an olld ffacttorry orr warrehouse,, wiitth diillapiidatted buiilldiings.. II llooked outt
p ace           ooked ke an o d ac o y o wa ehouse w h d ap da ed bu d ngs ooked ou

ttherre,, and II saiid,, “Thatt’’s amaziing..” Alll tthese bllack hiigh schooll sttudentts werre doiing band
  he e and sa d “Tha s amaz ng ” A hese b ack h gh schoo s uden s we e do ng band

drriillls iin tthe yarrd.. Thiis schooll llooks horrrriiblle,, and Hollland jjustt says,, “Thiis iis tthe way iitt iis
d s n he ya d Th s schoo ooks ho b e and Ho and us says “Th s s he way s
herre..”
he e ”

           Segrregattiion du jjour,, tthatt’’s tthe way iitt was.. IInttegrrattiion was nott rreallly happeniing
           Seg ega on du our ha s he way was n eg a on was no ea y happen ng

                                                          ] saw he ma ked d e ence n soc oeconom cs
yett.. As tthe bus rrollled down tthe rroad,, .. .. .. [[II] saw tthe marrked diifffferrence iin sociioeconomiics
ye As he bus o ed down he oad

off each neiighborrhood,, and alll tthe whiille II’’m tthiinkiing,, Thiis iis amaziing.. IIt was shockiing..
o each ne ghbo hood and a he wh e m h nk ng Th s s amaz ng t was shock ng

           Later, standing in the hotel with Bill, he takes me to a wing of the lobby, and this

little kid comes by asking for autographs. We’ve all got USC blazers on; this is the

Holiday Inn, Birmingham. This little kid mixed into the group. He’s maybe five or six,

and he turns to his mother and says, “Gee, Mommy, they sure have a lot of n—s on that

team.”

           I turned to Bill, and I asked him, “Hey, how are you holding up?”
           He says, “Yeah, you know, I face that in L.A. That’s typical.”

           That opened my eyes. I come from a white community in L.A. and I’d not

realized that before. I’m twenty years old, and this is my education.

           My Christian influence on that [‘70] team was, I’m not a leader at that point.

People knew it about me, and I tried to act like it. Guys were older and did not hold those

values, so I was not mainstream; but God was faithful to me, because by 1972 we had a

really good core of men on that team, guys with good values, a lot of Christians. Sam

Cunningham was a Christian. We Christians started fellowships when we were seniors.

We said, “

I went over to Coach McKay, who was often unapproachable. Sometimes we feared him.
I said to him that we always pray before games, so I asked if he will let us pray after the
game. So that night we prayed and were thankful. The team took off and went 12–0; it
was the most fantastic team ever. I coached 26 years in high school and junior college,
and I’ve never seen a team like that. I’ve never seen such camaraderie and unity.
That year was from God. Others would just say it was a great team, but as a coach I know
you’ve gotta have more than just great talent, you need to overachieve; and that’s what
God’s granted you. That team had it.
I got involved in Athletes in Action and the FCA. I lifted weights with a guy who was
with Athletes in Action in the late ‘60s, so I invited him to come to our team in ‘72.
McKay said he wouldn’t mind if the guy puts on a demonstration, as long as it’s
voluntary. . . . We had a good time up there; a lot of guys prayed and accepted Christ that
day—a lot of guys, maybe 80 percent.
Sam Cunningham is a super guy, a really humble, very friendly man, sensitive to others.
He was really team oriented. He could have gone to another program with great statistics
instead of being a blocking fullback, not carry much more than seven, eight times games
a game. In another program he’d have carried twenty times a game, but he just wanted to
win. He started coming to AIA and Fellowship of Christian Athletes. He’s very moral. I
rarely heard him swear.
        I never thought that much about it, to be honest with you. At USC we had whites,

blacks, a few Jews, Latinos; I never thought about it. Here we played an all white team,

which was strange in college. I’m thinking as I looked at Alabama, How do these guys

think they can compete like that? This game’s gonna pass ‘em by. The next year they had

an outside linebacker named John Mitchell, who was black, and a defensive end who was

black; and they won that game. They realized integrating was their way out.

         As ffarr as ourr prrogrram gettttiing back tto wherre we had been,, ourr ttiippiing poiintt was
         As a as ou p og am ge ng back o whe e we had been ou pp ng po n was

tthe Nottrre Dame game iin 1971.. We sttarrtted ourr ffellllowshiip arround tthatt ttiime,, and we gott
  he No e Dame game n 1971 We s a ed ou e owsh p a ound ha me and we go

serriious.. We werre a biig underrdog back ttherre and we beatt ‘‘em 28–14.. We neverr llostt tto
se ous We we e a b g unde dog back he e and we bea em 28–14 We neve os o

tthem att USC afftterr tthatt..
  hem a USC a e ha



Dave Brown was a lliineman att USC on tthe 1970 tteam tthatt pllayed att Biirmiingham,,
Dave Brown was a neman a USC on he 1970 eam ha p ayed a B rm ngham

and tthe 1972 nattiionall champiions,, generalllly tthoughtt tto be tthe bestt colllege tteam iin
and he 1972 na ona champ ons genera y hough o be he bes co ege eam n

hiisttory.. He won tthe Howard Jones//Foottballll Allumnii Cllub award ffor pllayiing tthe
h s ory He won he Howard Jones Foo ba A umn C ub award or p ay ng he

mostt miinuttes,, was sellectted tto tthe Colllege Alll--Sttar Game and tthe Coaches
mos m nu es was se ec ed o he Co ege A S ar Game and he Coaches

Alll--Ameriica Game hiis seniior year.. He pllayed iin tthe Worlld Foottballl League.. Brown
A Amer ca Game h s sen or year He p ayed n he Wor d Foo ba League Brown

tteaches hiisttory and coaches ffoottballl att San Cllementte ((Calliifforniia)) Hiigh Schooll..
  eaches h s ory and coaches oo ba a San C emen e Ca orn a H gh Schoo


                                       CLIFF CULBREATH
                                       CLIFF CULBREATH
Offffensiive Guard
O ens ve Guard
1972
1972


II'm ffrrom San Berrnarrdiino and was rrecrruiitted by quiitte a ffew schoolls:: UCLA,, Sttanfforrd,,
   'm om San Be na d no and was ec u ed by qu e a ew schoo s UCLA S an o d
Nottrre Dame,, Miinnesotta,, botth Arriizona schoolls ((ASU and U.. off A..)),, Collorrado and
 No e Dame M nneso a bo h A zona schoo s ASU and U o A Co o ado and
Collorrado Sttatte.. II ttook rrecrruiittiing ttrriips tto mostt off tthem.. II diidn'tt go tto Nottrre Dame..
 Co o ado S a e ook ec u ng ps o mos o hem d dn' go o No e Dame
          II was parrtt off tthe prrogrram ffrrom 1968,, my ffrreshman yearr whiich was O..J..'s seniiorr
             was pa o he p og am om 1968 my eshman yea wh ch was O J 's sen o

yearr,, tto 1973.. We had one guy ffrrom Texas who was spottted piickiing daiisiies att prracttiice,,
yea o 1973 We had one guy om Texas who was spo ed p ck ng da s es a p ac ce

and even tthough he was a biig rrecrruiitt he gott sentt home on tthe spott.. Tody Smiitth was allso
and even hough he was a b g ec u he go sen home on he spo Tody Sm h was a so

ffrrom Texas.. He was crrazy and ttough.. II was tterrrriiffiied off Grreg Sllough..
    om Texas He was c azy and ough was e                      ed o G eg S ough

We had a lliinebackerr orr deffensiive end who was a ffrreshman orr sophomorre,, a guy named
 We had a nebacke o de ens ve end who was a eshman o sophomo e a guy named
Scotttt Weberr ffrrom Frresno orr Modestto,, whiich we'd calll tthe "Grrapeviine" back tthen because
 Sco Webe om F esno o Modes o wh ch we'd ca he "G apev ne" back hen because
tthatt was tthe rroad you ttook tto gett tto tthe San Joaquiin Vallley..
   ha was he oad you ook o ge o he San Joaqu n Va ey
II rrememberr Sllough was tthiis lliinebackerr and he had been iin tthe serrviice.. He was tthe olldestt
     emembe S ough was h s nebacke and he had been n he se v ce He was he o des
guy on tthe tteam and had been a parrattrrooperr orr a Grreen Berrett,, and Sllough made a miisttake
 guy on he eam and had been a pa a oope o a G een Be e and S ough made a m s ake
and Marrv Goux came ungllued.. He was piissed,, and he sttarrtts yelllliing att Sllough.. Sllough
 and Ma v Goux came ung ued He was p ssed and he s a s ye ng a S ough S ough
   ooked a h m ke " you h me o d man ’ k you " Goux ooks a S ough Th s
llooked att hiim lliike,, "IIff you hiitt me,, olld man,, II’lll kiillll you.." Goux llooks att Sllough.. Thiis
miightt be tthe onlly guy who everr iinttiimiidatted Marrv Goux.. Sllough's kiillled V..C..,, he's nott
 m gh be he on y guy who eve n m da ed Ma v Goux S ough's k ed V C he's no
scarred off Marrv Goux.. Sllough's had alll tthiis speciiall ttrraiiniing and combatt orr sometthiing,, and
 sca ed o Ma v Goux S ough's had a h s spec a a n ng and comba o some h ng and
he giives tthe iimprressiion tthatt iiff you mess wiitth hiim you'rre dead.. Goux rrecogniizes tthe
 he g ves he mp ess on ha you mess w h h m you' e dead Goux ecogn zes he
siittuattiion,, so he tturrned and punched Weber iin tthe head and brroke hiis ffiingerr.. He was
 s ua on so he u ned and punched Weber n he head and b oke h s nge He was
iinttiimiidatted by Sllough,, a Grreen Berrett who'd been tto Viiettnam and was harrd tto iinttiimiidatte..
   n m da ed by S ough a G een Be e who'd been o V e nam and was ha d o n m da e
 After I got out of school, I loved the old 502 Club. Tony Caravalho and I would sit
 around and tell war stories. I got my master's in social work and graduated from USC
 with a master's degree in 1975. I worked in Watts when I was hired as a social worker in
 a substance abuse program. I went to so many events at the L.A. registration center for
 disability, which was funded by the state, and I'd come in and hang with the guys, but
 mainly the '80s are a blur, but we had a lot of fun.
 Eve ybody a ways asks me abou O J n 1968 had some expe ences w h O J guess
Everrybody allways asks me aboutt O..J.. IIn 1968 II had some experriiences wiitth O..J.. II guess
tthe sttattutte off lliimiittattiions applliies,, so iitt's okay tto ttallk aboutt O..J.. O..J.. was a seniiorr when II
   he s a u e o m a ons app es so 's okay o a k abou O J O J was a sen o when
was a ffrreshman.. He was a prrettty ffunny guy and woulld come outt tto SC afftterr pllayiing tthe
 was a eshman He was a p e y unny guy and wou d come ou o SC a e p ay ng he
season iin Buffffallo,, tto ttallk wiitth tthe guys and pllay baskettballl.. He'd come outt tto tthe prracttiice
 season n Bu a o o a k w h he guys and p ay baske ba He'd come ou o he p ac ce
ffiielld.. One ttiime,, he came tto my aparrttmentt.. II was comiing outt off Herriittage Halll.. He'd
    e d One me he came o my apa men was com ng ou o He age Ha He'd
siigned a conttrractt wiitth Chevrrollett.. Hiis tthen--wiiffe Marrguerriitte had a new carr,, a Chevrrollett..
 s gned a con ac w h Chev o e H s hen w e Ma gue e had a new ca a Chev o e
Hiis mottherr has one off hiis carrs,, ttoo.. He pullls up and asks me do II wantt a rriide home,, so he
 H s mo he has one o h s ca s oo He pu s up and asks me do wan a de home so he
ttook me back tto my aparrttmentt.. Thiis iis maybe 1970 orr '71 and II''m lliiviing wiitth tthiis giirrll
   ook me back o my apa men Th s s maybe 1970 o '71 and m v ng w h h s g
who became my ffiirrstt wiiffe.. ((II llook att marrrriiage lliike a game off baseballl.. You don’’tt wantt a
 who became my s w e                          ook a ma age ke a game o baseba You don wan a
tthiirrd sttrriike,, so II've avoiided a tthiirrd marrrriiage.. II''ve had ttwo diivorrces..))
   h d s ke so 've avo ded a h d ma age ve had wo d vo ces
Cllaudetttte lliived wiitth me att tthe ttiime.. O..J.. came upsttaiirrs.. Cllaudettte's makiing chocollatte
 C aude e ved w h me a he me O J came ups a s C aude e's mak ng choco a e
chiip cookiies.. Befforre everry home game tthe coaches woulld ttake us tto MGM fforr a speciiall
 ch p cook es Be o e eve y home game he coaches wou d ake us o MGM o a spec a
scrreeniing off moviies.. A llott off guys woulld have ttheiirr giirrllffrriiends bake cookiies wiitth "grreen
 sc een ng o mov es A o o guys wou d have he g                                     ends bake cook es w h "g een
sttuffff" iin iitt.. Cllaudettte makes tthese cookiies,, she makes some butt she sttayed iin tthe kiittchen..
 s u " n C aude e makes hese cook es she makes some bu she s ayed n he k chen
She coulldn'tt sttand O..J.. The ffiirrstt ttiime she mett hiim he was danciing wiitth hiis shadow on tthe
 She cou dn' s and O J The s me she me h m he was danc ng w h h s shadow on he
wallll.. As he lleaves tthe kiittchen,, O..J..'s ttherre,, she giives hiim hallff a dozen cookiies..
 wa As he eaves he k chen O J 's he e she g ves h m ha a dozen cook es
Now Marrguerriitte iis drriiviing O..J..'s Corrvettte.. IItt's a montth llatterr.. Tody Smiitth giives tthiis parrtty
 Now Ma gue e s d v ng O J 's Co ve e 's a mon h a e Tody Sm h g ves h s pa y
att hiis pllace offff off Elllendalle.. II go tto Tody''s parrtty and O..J..,, who had a jjob as an ABC
 a h s p ace o o E enda e go o Tody s pa y and O J who had a ob as an ABC
commenttattorr,, had ffllown ffrrom San Frranciisco fforr tthe Eastt--Westt Shrriine Game.. He was tthe
 commen a o had own om San F anc sco o he Eas Wes Sh ne Game He was he
commenttattorr,, and came tto tthe parrtty wiitth Marrguerriitte att tthiis ttiime..
 commen a o and came o he pa y w h Ma gue e a h s me
When O..J.. came down tto tthe parrtty,, tthe pllace was packed and women woulld come up tto
 When O J came down o he pa y he p ace was packed and women wou d come up o
hiim allll tthe ttiime.. Thiis chiick's askiing hiim fforr a New Yearr's Eve kiiss.. Marrguerriitte iis iin tthe
 h m a he me Th s ch ck's ask ng h m o a New Yea 's Eve k ss Ma gue e s n he
lliiviing rroom and he's sttandiing ttherre wiitth Marrguerriitte.. He says,, "II wantt you tto meett Clliiffff
     v ng oom and he's s and ng he e w h Ma gue e He says " wan you o mee C
Cullbrreatth ffrrom San Berrdoo,," and she says,, "Oh you’’rre tthe one who gave hiim tthatt dope.."
 Cu b ea h om San Be doo " and she says "Oh you e he one who gave h m ha dope "
II ffelltt lliike a dog and crrawlled outt off ttherre wiitth my ttaiill bettween my llegs.. II jjustt saiid,, "Verry
      e ke a dog and c aw ed ou o he e w h my a be ween my egs us sa d "Ve y
niice tto meett you,," and wallked away.. O..J.. had come back so sttoned ffrrom tthose cookiies
 n ce o mee you " and wa ked away O J had come back so s oned om hose cook es
wiitth tthe "grreen sttuffff" iin ''em tthatt he llefftt tthe cookiies behiind tthe seatt iin hiis carr.. Marrguerriitte
 w h he "g een s u " n em ha he e he cook es beh nd he sea n h s ca Ma gue e
had ffound 'em and he jjustt saiid,, "Clliiffff Cullbrreatth gave 'em tto me.." She was verry
 had ound 'em and he us sa d "C Cu b ea h gave 'em o me " She was ve y
possessiive and he was verry possessiive off herr,, ttoo.. Mostt guys on tthe tteam woulld nott even
 possess ve and he was ve y possess ve o he oo Mos guys on he eam wou d no even
ttallk tto herr,, tthey diidn'tt wantt tto angerr O..J..
   a k o he hey d dn' wan o ange O J
O..J.. ttelllls me tthiis sttorry,, att tthe ttiime he was ttherre,, aboutt he and Bubba Smiitth and tthiis guy
 O J e s me h s s o y a he me he was he e abou he and Bubba Sm h and h s guy
named Biilll Copelland,, a ttiightt end att UCLA.. He llatterr diied off a hearrtt atttack att a young age..
 named B Cope and a gh end a UCLA He a e d ed o a hea a ack a a young age
He'd ttrriied fforr tthe NFL and nott made iitt,, and he hellped att some colllege and worrked att tthe
 He'd ed o he NFL and no made and he he ped a some co ege and wo ked a he
rracettrrack.. He was a memberr off tthiis grroup butt drropped dead off a hearrtt atttack.. He was a
    ace ack He was a membe o h s g oup bu d opped dead o a hea a ack He was a
good ffrriiend off O..J..'s.. O..J.. says he and Bubba and Copelland arre goiing tto tthe Hollllywood
 good end o O J 's O J says he and Bubba and Cope and a e go ng o he Ho ywood
hiillls tto see tthese ttwo Pllayboy bunniies.. He ttolld me tthe montth tthey werre iin Pllayboy.. O..J..
 h s o see hese wo P ayboy bunn es He o d me he mon h hey we e n P ayboy O J
saiid,, "II diidn’’tt do anytthiing,," butt Bubba and Copelland werre wiitth tthese ttwo chiicks and .. .. ..
 sa d " d dn do any h ng " bu Bubba and Cope and we e w h hese wo ch cks and
wellll,, use yourr iimagiinattiion..
 we use you mag na on
 Charlie Weaver was probably the craziest guy I ever met at USC. I looked him but
 immediately did not like him. At one point he tried to hit on my girl. Charlie came from
 Arizona Western J.C. and in the fall we would do registration in the old gym, where the
 "dungeon" was. Upstairs they had all these stations. I had taken Spanish in high school
 for two years and wanted to sign up for Spanish. They told me I'd have to take a test the
 next day at seven A.M. to know whether I was qualified for the class. I didn't wanna do
 that. I had football and double-days.
   Charrlliie was ttherre.. He says,, "Clliiffff,, iitt says iiff you ttake a llanguage you neverr had befforre,,
    Cha e was he e He says "C                           says you ake a anguage you neve had be o e
you jjustt go tto tthe ffiirrstt llevell.." Charrlliie says he neverr ttook Porrttuguese,, so we botth siign up
 you us go o he s eve " Cha e says he neve ook Po uguese so we bo h s gn up
fforr tthiis cllass,, ttwiice a week att niightt,, siix tto niine orr seven tto niine orr sometthiing.. Therre's
    o h s c ass w ce a week a n gh s x o n ne o seven o n ne o some h ng The e's
ffiive peoplle iin tthe cllass;; Charrlliie,, me and tthrree peoplle ffrrom Buenos Aiirres.. Neiittherr he norr II
     ve peop e n he c ass Cha e me and h ee peop e om Buenos A es Ne he he no
coulld speak Porrttuguese.. He coulldn'tt siign hiis name.. He'd putt an "X" on tthe dottted lliine.. II
 cou d speak Po uguese He cou dn' s gn h s name He'd pu an "X" on he do ed ne
ttook Porrttuguese ttwo yearrs because off hiim..
   ook Po uguese wo yea s because o h m
Charrlliie and Tody Smiitth,, II''m nott surre tthey hung outt tthatt much.. Tody rroomed wiitth tthiis
 Cha e and Tody Sm h m no su e hey hung ou ha much Tody oomed w h h s
ffrreshman named Dan McGiinlley.. He became a Helllls Angell.. He drropped outt off SC.. They
     eshman named Dan McG n ey He became a He s Ange He d opped ou o SC They
lliived att Marrks Towerr.. McGiinlley tthrrew sometthiing outt off tthe wiindow and iitt llanded by
     ved a Ma ks Towe McG n ey h ew some h ng ou o he w ndow and anded by
some guy.. Thiis guy came up and Tody wentt berrserrk.. He hung tthiis catt outt tthe wiindow by
 some guy Th s guy came up and Tody wen be se k He hung h s ca ou he w ndow by
hiis ffeett.. Hiis parrentts werre gonna sue SC butt iitt was McGiinlley who iinsttiigatted tthe wholle
 h s ee H s pa en s we e gonna sue SC bu was McG n ey who ns ga ed he who e
prrobllem.. Therre was a llott off weiirrd sttiiffff,, a llott off crraziiness..
 p ob em The e was a o o we d s                           a o o c az ness
When we pllayed on tthe rroad we'd go tto a moviie ttheattrre on Frriiday niightt.. IIn 1969 Easy
 When we p ayed on he oad we'd go o a mov e hea e on F day n gh n 1969 Easy
Riider kiicked outt,, and allways ttherre's tthiis kiind off rraciiall tthiing goiing on,, and iitt came tto a
 R der k cked ou and a ways he e's h s k nd o ac a h ng go ng on and came o a
head when tthe coaches ttook us tto see Easy Riider.. Therre's a llott off rraciiall sttuffff iin tthatt
 head when he coaches ook us o see Easy R der The e's a o o ac a s u n ha
 mov e and a e wa ds he b acks and he wh es sp up and McKay was us p ssed t
moviie,, and afftterrwarrds tthe bllacks and tthe whiittes splliitt up,, and McKay was jjustt piissed.. IIt
was lliike,, "Don'tt llett ''em see tthatt crrap anymorre,," so anottherr ttiime we see a cowboys 'n''
 was ke "Don' e em see ha c ap anymo e " so ano he me we see a cowboys 'n
IIndiians moviie,, maybe John Wayne,, whiich seemed saffe tto McKay and Goux,, butt
  nd ans mov e maybe John Wayne wh ch seemed sa e o McKay and Goux bu
afftterrwarrds ttherre's a biig arrgumentt.. The whiittes tthoughtt tthe cowboys werre herroes fforr
 a e wa ds he e's a b g a gumen The wh es hough he cowboys we e he oes o
kiillliing tthe IIndiians,, butt tthe bllacks sympatthiized wiitth tthe IIndiians.. Sam Diickerrson ttellls tthiis
 k ng he nd ans bu he b acks sympa h zed w h he nd ans Sam D cke son e s h s
sttorry.. Pette Carrrrolll iis tthe kiind off guy you can ttallk tto as a pllayerr.. Nott tthatt McKay was nott
 s o y Pe e Ca o s he k nd o guy you can a k o as a p aye No ha McKay was no
a grreatt coach,, butt you coulldn'tt ttallk tto hiim aboutt tthiis kiind off sttuffff..
 a g ea coach bu you cou dn' a k o h m abou h s k nd o s u
 My son's at Princeton. He's the starting running back. It's a real low-key, family
 atmosphere there, not all this hype and glory. I miss Dave Brown. I always respected him
 and his Christian faith, which helped bring that team together after we had these race
 issues. I wanna work it out so we see each other at re-unions. I’ll be the best-looking
 Trojan there.


Clliiffff Cullbreatth was iinvollved iin tthe USC ffoottballl program begiinniing iin 1968,,
C Cu brea h was nvo ved n he USC oo ba program beg nn ng n 1968

graduattiing iin 1973,, a periiod spanniing tthe careers off O..J.. Siimpson and Antthony
gradua ng n 1973 a per od spann ng he careers o O J S mpson and An hony

Daviis.. He was a member off tthe 1972 nattiionall champiions,, wiidelly consiidered tto be
Dav s He was a member o he 1972 na ona champ ons w de y cons dered o be

tthe bestt tteam iin colllege ffoottballl hiisttory.. He works ffor tthe Nattiionall Accrediittiing
  he bes eam n co ege oo ba h s ory He works or he Na ona Accred ng

Commiissiion off Cosmettollogy Artts and Sciiences iin tthe Washiingtton,, D..C.. area,, as
Comm ss on o Cosme o ogy Ar s and Sc ences n he Wash ng on D C area as

ttheiir diirecttor off communiicattiions..
  he r d rec or o commun ca ons




                                    CHARLES "TREE" YOUNG
                                    CHARLES "TREE" YOUNG

Tiightt End
T gh End
1970 -- 1972
1970 1972


Sam Cunniingham’’s abiilliitty tto communiicatte wiitth bllacks,, whiittes,, Hiispaniics on ourr tteam
Sam Cunn ngham s ab y o commun ca e w h b acks wh es H span cs on ou eam
was iinvalluablle.. He was morre tthan a guy who had abiilliitty.. Rod McNeiillll grrew up iin an
was nva uab e He was mo e han a guy who had ab y Rod McNe g ew up n an
allll--whiitte enviirronmentt.. II grrew up iin an alll--bllack one iin Frresno.. Because my hiigh schooll
a wh e env onmen g ew up n an a b ack one n F esno Because my h gh schoo
coach was Grreek,, II perrceiive tthiis aboutt tthem:: .. .. .. tthey tthiink tthey’’rre tthatt much morre
coach was G eek pe ce ve h s abou hem                             hey h nk hey e ha much mo e
ciiviilliized..
c v zed
            My hiigh schooll coach woulld ttallk aboutt Grreek hiisttorry,, and how he was an
             My h gh schoo coach wou d a k abou G eek h s o y and how he was an

educattorr;; he mapped outt everrytthiing,, iin beiing an educattorr,, tthrrough tthe superriiorriitty off tthe
educa o he mapped ou eve y h ng n be ng an educa o h ough he supe o y o he
Grreeks.. Now John Papadakiis iis Grreek.. John had a ffllaiirr off arrrrogance..
G eeks Now John Papadak s s G eek John had a a o a ogance

So allll tthese peoplle arre ttogettherr,, and Sam Cunniingham iis ffrrom Santta Barrbarra,, and he
 So a hese peop e a e oge he and Sam Cunn ngham s om San a Ba ba a and he
knew everrybody ffrrom grrowiing up;; whiitte,, bllack,, Hiispaniic.. He brroughtt tthatt tteam ttogettherr..
 knew eve ybody om g ow ng up wh e b ack H span c He b ough ha eam oge he
Lett me putt tthiis Biiblliicallly:: “Prriide goes befforre tthe ffalll..” The hiisttorry off anttiiquiitty,, ffrrom tthe
 Le me pu h s B b ca y “P de goes be o e he a ” The h s o y o an qu y om he
sttandpoiintt off any grreatt tteam orr nattiion,, ffallls ffrrom wiitthiin,, nott ffrrom wiitthoutt.. They ffalll
 s andpo n o any g ea eam o na on a s om w h n no om w hou They a
ffrrom wiitthiin..
     om w h n
Thiis iis how we ffaiilled.. We werre grreatt iindiiviidualls,, butt we diidn’’tt come ttogettherr as a uniitt
 Th s s how we a ed We we e g ea nd v dua s bu we d dn come oge he as a un
unttiill we sett asiide ourr perrsonall diifffferrences.. You menttiion [[offffensiive lliineman]] Alllan Grraff;;
 un we se as de ou pe sona d e ences You men on o ens ve neman A an G a
on each tteam,, ttherre arre seven guys who arre lleaderrs,, and tthose seven have att lleastt tthrree
 on each eam he e a e seven guys who a e eade s and hose seven have a eas h ee
who ffollllow orr associiatte wiitth tthem.. IIf [[tthose seven]] don’’tt come ttogettherr,, tthose 28 don’’tt
 who o ow o assoc a e w h hem f hose seven don come oge he hose 28 don
come ttogettherr.. Then tthe 62 don’’tt come ttogettherr.. Thatt was ourr prrobllem:: we werre a
 come oge he Then he 62 don come oge he Tha was ou p ob em we we e a
diiviided tteam..
 d v ded eam
We onlly came ttogettherr on tthe ffiielld,, tthatt’’s wherre Sam came iin.. Sam was much morre tthan
 We on y came oge he on he e d ha s whe e Sam came n Sam was much mo e han
a ffoottballl pllayerr orr an ambassadorr.. He was morre tthan “Bam..” He was a diipllomatt
 a oo ba p aye o an ambassado He was mo e han “Bam ” He was a d p oma
exttrraorrdiinaiirre.. II llearrned a grreatt deall ffrrom Sam.. Therre was a grroup off us calllled tthe “Biig
 ex ao d na e ea ned a g ea dea om Sam The e was a g oup o us ca ed he “B g
Fiive..” .. .. .. They came ttogettherr,, allll off tthe exttrreme ttallentt,, and brroughtt iitt tto tthe Uniiverrsiitty
 F ve ”           They came oge he a o he ex eme a en and b ough                                    o he Un ve s y
off Souttherrn Calliifforrniia.. Allll tthese diifffferrentt backgrrounds..
 o Sou he n Ca o n a A hese d e en backg ounds
An examplle:: durriing tthatt ttiime,, iiff tthe polliice sttopped me,, II’’d questtiion tthe cops and tthey’’d
 An examp e du ng ha me                         he po ce s opped me d ques on he cops and hey d
allways gave me a ttiickett.. So Sam getts sttopped by an offffiicerr.. He gave tthiis offffiicerr onlly
 a ways gave me a cke So Sam ge s s opped by an o ce He gave h s o ce on y
grraciiousness seasoned wiitth wiisdom.. When iitt was tthrrough,, tthiis offffiicerr llett hiim go.. The
 g ac ousness seasoned w h w sdom When was h ough h s o ce e h m go The
llesson:: .. .. .. you cattch morre fflliies wiitth honey tthan wiitth viinegarr..
   esson           you ca ch mo e es w h honey han w h v nega
II belliieve tthe bestt [[quarrtterrbacks]] have conffiidence and a ttouch off arrrrogance.. Jiimmy Jones
    be eve he bes qua e backs have con dence and a ouch o a ogance J mmy Jones
and [[Miike]] Rae had tthatt.. The whiitte guys woulld consolle Miike and say he shoulld be
 and M ke Rae had ha The wh e guys wou d conso e M ke and say he shou d be
pllayiing.. The bllacks woulld go wiitth Jiimmy.. Some bllacks rraiised iin a whiitte enviirronmentt
 p ay ng The b acks wou d go w h J mmy Some b acks a sed n a wh e env onmen
diidn’’tt know whatt tto tthiink.. Alll tthatt season <1970> was pepperred wiitth allll tthatt.. Jiimmy and
 d dn know wha o h nk A ha season <1970> was peppe ed w h a ha J mmy and
Miike,, tthen Sam and Charrlliie Evans att tthe rrunniing back posiittiion,, as you ffound outt.. Evans
 M ke hen Sam and Cha e Evans a he unn ng back pos on as you ound ou Evans
sttiillll hollds some off tthatt afftterr 35 yearrs.. Then ttherre werre ottherr posiittiions:: Marrv
 s ho ds some o ha a e 35 yea s Then he e we e o he pos ons Ma v
Monttgomerry,, a bllack lliineman;; ttiightt end Gerrrry Mullliins,, and mysellff..
 Mon gome y a b ack neman gh end Ge y Mu ns and myse
Butt on tthe bus ffrrom tthe aiirrporrtt tto tthe hottell iin Biirrmiingham.. .. .. peoplle who grrew up iin tthe
 Bu on he bus om he a po o he ho e n B m ngham                                          peop e who g ew up n he
Soutth had diifffferrentt perrspecttiives.. Frresno ttends tto be conserrvattiive,, butt II’’m an atthllette so
 Sou h had d e en pe spec ves F esno ends o be conse va ve bu m an a h e e so
II’’m nott ttrreatted lliike ottherr bllacks.. II was ttollerratted,, lliike II was grray,, because II had economiic
     m no ea ed ke o he b acks was o e a ed ke was g ay because had econom c
vallue.. Butt drriiviing iin tthatt bus,, II’’m llookiing att bllacks iin shantty homes,, we calll “shottgun”
 va ue Bu d v ng n ha bus m ook ng a b acks n shan y homes we ca “sho gun”
homes.. IIt’’s lliike llookiing back iin ttiime.. Tody Smiitth had a brriieffcase,, and iin iitt,, II don’’tt know
 homes t s ke ook ng back n me Tody Sm h had a b e case and n                                              don know
iiff iitt was a ..38 orr whatt,, butt iitt was a gun.. II asked,, “Why do you carrrry a gun?” He saiid he
          was a 38 o wha bu was a gun asked “Why do you ca y a gun?” He sa d he
grrew up iin tthe Soutth and saiid,, “Anytthiing can happen down herre..”
 g ew up n he Sou h and sa d “Any h ng can happen down he e ”
Therre was an agrreementt bettween Bearr Brryantt and John McKay.. Bearr gave hiis worrd
 The e was an ag eemen be ween Bea B yan and John McKay Bea gave h s wo d
we’’d have prrottecttiion.. Bearr was tthe man down ttherre,, and iin mostt cases tthey’’d lliistten tto
 we d have p o ec on Bea was he man down he e and n mos cases hey d s en o
hiim.. He coulld gett tthiings done..
 h m He cou d ge h ngs done
The KKK was sttiillll prrevallentt.. A llott off tthose guys werre parrtt off tthatt,, iiff Brryantt had been iin
 The KKK was s p eva en A o o hose guys we e pa o ha                                            B yan had been n
‘‘Bama alll tthatt ttiime iitt’’s rreasonablle tto tthiink he had an associiattiion wiitth tthatt.. They’’d had
   Bama a ha me s easonab e o h nk he had an assoc a on w h ha They d had
everry prromiinentt perrson iinvollved iin tthatt orrganiizattiion.. Butt he was ttrryiing tto gett sometthiing
 eve y p om nen pe son nvo ved n ha o gan za on Bu he was y ng o ge some h ng
done.. He used McKay.. They used each ottherr..
 done He used McKay They used each o he
              Therre was no securriitty iin tthe sttands.. Mostt off tthe ttiime,, when assassiinattiions arre
              The e was no secu y n he s ands Mos o he me when assass na ons a e

orrchesttrratted;; tthe tthiing iis tthe securriitty iis usuallly iinvollved iin iitt.. IIff you ttrrully llook att hiisttorry,,
o ches a ed he h ng s he secu y s usua y nvo ved n                                           you u y ook a h s o y
when Prresiidentts arre assassiinatted,, peoplle iin tthe cabiinett orr iin tthe goverrnmentt had
when P es den s a e assass na ed peop e n he cab ne o n he gove nmen had

sometthiing tto do wiitth iitt.. Even John Wiillkes Bootth had goverrnmentt co--conspiirrattorrs..
some h ng o do w h Even John W kes Boo h had gove nmen co consp a o s

Caesarr was kiilllled by peoplle iin hiis own parrtty.. The wholle ttiime II saw Hank Aarron chasiing
Caesa was k ed by peop e n h s own pa y The who e me saw Hank Aa on chas ng

Babe Rutth’’s rrecorrd iin Attllantta iin tthe earrlly ‘‘70s,, tthiis was prrobablly on hiis miind..
Babe Ru h s eco d n A an a n he ea y 70s h s was p obab y on h s m nd

         My overall philosophy is that God rules in the affairs of man. Even in the time of

John Papadakis’s Greek history, the Romans, the Babylonians, the Egyptians; God rules

the affairs of men. Look at this country, our Founders came to this country, which was

started by King George of England and the King of Spain, Magellan’s voyage. During

that time they needed workers to work on things. We came over as indentured servants,

some of us as slaves. There were opportunities to bring more slaves; and in order to

justify it, they had to dehumanize us. A lot of people came over for religious freedom;

others, to make money; some were outlaws. Kings would send undesirables out here to

populate the new land and bring back a fortune. It was a business deal, and because of

this they enslaved us. But during that process, some people believed it was wrong. They

became abolitionists. Most of them were God-fearing people, and they set out to change

all of this.

         Going back now to its effect on this 1970 game between USC and Alabama,

which we’re talking about. The question is, so, is there a divine order in which God

intervenes? Yes. If you’re asking am I religious, do I believe in God? Yes. I do

understand that God rules in the affairs of man. No matter how strong or brilliant you are,

or how much money there is in your bank, you are nothing without God!

Th s con es was no a oo ba game t was s aged as a oo ba game n o de so ha
Thiis conttestt was nott a ffoottballl game.. IIt was sttaged as a ffoottballl game iin orrderr so tthatt
change cou d be made t was a pa ad gm sh no a evo u on Bea was a pa o ha
change coulld be made.. IIt was a parradiigm shiifftt,, nott a rrevolluttiion.. Bearr was a parrtt off tthatt;;
he iinsttiigatted tthatt.. II’’m nott ffoolliish enough tto belliieve tthatt alll whiittes hatted bllacks orr alll
he ns ga ed ha m no oo sh enough o be eve ha a wh es ha ed b acks o a
bllacks hatted alll whiittes.. IItt was a systtem.. Brryantt was iin tthiis systtem.. Whatt diid II say aboutt
b acks ha ed a wh es was a sys em B yan was n h s sys em Wha d d say abou
empiirres? Change comes ffrrom wiitthiin.. IIff tthe deviill crreatted tthe systtem,, tthen God iinffiillttrratted
emp es? Change comes om w h n                        he dev c ea ed he sys em hen God n                      a ed
Bearr Brryantt iintto tthatt systtem tto do Hiis good worrk!! God used Bearr Brryantt,, whettherr he
Bea B yan n o ha sys em o do H s good wo k God used Bea B yan whe he he
was a wiillliing [[parrttiiciipantt]] orr knew whatt was goiing on,, iitt does nott mattterr.. God used Sam;;
was a w ng pa c pan o knew wha was go ng on does no ma e God used Sam
he gott hiis chance and diid whatt Sam’’s goiing tto do..
he go h s chance and d d wha Sam s go ng o do
        In the history of time, God always raises a person, an individual whose work

needs to be done. Now we’re back to Birmingham, where all that philosophy was being

unfolded on the playing field of time. Understanding culture at that time, the way

education was being disseminated; all of that to be disproven was a shock to people in

that stadium, listening on the airwaves or who saw it on TV. On the other side, it was a

source of great jubilation for the lowly janitor or maid or guy selling programs, this team

from out West coming out with huge, fast African-American vessels of God.


The term legend gets thrown around a lot, but at USC many players are worthy of

the title. Thus was Charles Young, a sophomore in 1970 and a unanimous 1972

All-American on the “greatest ever” national champions. Selected to the 1972

Playboy Pre-Season All-American team, he was first team All-Pac-8 and was

selected for the Hula Bowl and Coaches All-America Game. Tree is a member of

both the USC and National Football Foundation College Halls of Fame. The sixth

pick of the 1973 draft by Philadelphia, he played for the Eagles (1973-76), the Los

Angeles Rams (1977-79), the San Francisco 49ers (1980-82) and the Seattle

Seahawks (1983-85). He played for the Rams (against Trojan Lynn Swann and

Pittsburgh) in the 1980 Super Bowl (at the Rose Bowl) and was with the world

champion 49ers when they beat Cincinnati (and Trojan Anthony Munoz) in the

1982 Super Bowl. His daughters Candace, Cerenity and Chanel ("Charle's Angels")

all ran track for the Trojans.
                                        ANTHONY "A..D.." DAVIS
                                        ANTHONY "A D " DAVIS

          Taiillback
          Ta back

          1972 -- 1974
          1972 1974



Forr me,, tthe Trrojjan ffoottballll ttrradiittiion experriience was verry iintterresttiing.. Comiing ffrrom tthe
Fo me he T o an oo ba ad on expe ence was ve y n e es ng Com ng om he

San Ferrnando Valllley,, as a young,, brrash sttudentt atthllette,, II ffound USC tto be a new ffrronttiierr..
San Fe nando Va ey as a young b ash s uden a h e e ound USC o be a new on e

A ffrronttiierr off sociiall causes and polliittiicall causes;; iitt was jjustt a ffllatt outt crrossrroads off whatt
A on e o soc a causes and po ca causes was us a a ou c oss oads o wha

was goiing on iin tthe Uniitted Sttattes durriing tthatt ttiime perriiod.. Beiing rrecrruiitted tto USC iin
was go ng on n he Un ed S a es du ng ha me pe od Be ng ec u ed o USC n

1970--1971,, II had tto make a deciisiion off whiich uniiverrsiitty tto attttend wherre II coulld hone my
1970 1971 had o make a dec s on o wh ch un ve s y o a end whe e cou d hone my

atthllettiic skiillls as wellll as ffurrttherr my educattiion.. II coulld have easiilly optted tto ttake tthe money
a h e c sk s as we as u he my educa on cou d have eas y op ed o ake he money

and siidesttep my educattiion when sttrraiightt outt off hiigh schooll tthe Ballttiimorre Orriiolles drrafftted
and s des ep my educa on when s a gh ou o h gh schoo he Ba mo e O o es d a ed

me prroffessiionallly.. Howeverr,, II deciided sttayiing on tthe Westt Coastt woulld be morre
me p o ess ona y Howeve dec ded s ay ng on he Wes Coas wou d be mo e

beneffiiciiall.. II chose tto go tto USC,, wherre II woulld be ablle tto pllay botth ffoottballl and
bene c a            chose o go o USC whe e wou d be ab e o p ay bo h oo ba and

baseballll..
baseba

          II was a verry fforrttunatte atthllette att tthatt ttiime.. Now,, tthiis miightt sound overrconffiidentt off
             was a ve y o una e a h e e a ha me Now h s m gh sound ove con den o

me tto say,, butt II belliieve II pllayed durriing tthe grreattestt erra off tthe schooll’’s hiisttorry.. II onlly say
me o say bu be eve p ayed du ng he g ea es e a o he schoo s h s o y on y say

tthiis because tthe schooll was wiinniing ttiittlles iin allll sorrtts off sporrtts:: swiimmiing,, gollff,, baseballl,,
  h s because he schoo was w nn ng es n a so s o spo s sw mm ng go baseba

ffoottballll,, we even had a grreatt baskettballl prrogrram.. And II gott tto pllay fforr ttwo llegendarry
  oo ba we even had a g ea baske ba p og am And go o p ay o wo egenda y

coaches,, John McKay and Rod Dedeaux.. Off courrse,, John McKay won ffourr nattiionall ttiittlles
coaches John McKay and Rod Dedeaux O cou se John McKay won ou na ona                           es

durriing hiis ttenurre,, and II was llucky enough tto be on ttwo off tthose tteams.. The 1972 nattiionall
du ng h s enu e and was ucky enough o be on wo o hose eams The 1972 na ona

ffoottballll ttiittlle tteam has been calllled tthe grreattestt tteam off tthe centturry.. II was allso verry
  oo ba              e eam has been ca ed he g ea es eam o he cen u y was a so ve y

fforrttunatte tto pllay fforr Rod,, who won 11 nattiionall ttiittlles.. IIn tthe 1970s he had a ffiive--yearr rrun
  o una e o p ay o Rod who won 11 na ona                           es n he 1970s he had a ve yea un
goiing,, and II was bllessed enough tto be on ttwo off tthose wiinniing tteams..
go ng and was b essed enough o be on wo o hose w nn ng eams

My ffondestt memorriies as a ffoottballl atthllette arre,, off courrse,, tthe 1972 game agaiinstt Nottrre
 My ondes memo es as a oo ba a h e e a e o cou se he 1972 game aga ns No e
Dame,, iin whiich II scorred siix ttouchdowns,, as welll as tthe 1974 game,, whiich iis callled tthe
 Dame n wh ch sco ed s x ouchdowns as we as he 1974 game wh ch s ca ed he
 grea es comeback n co eg a e h s ory We came back om 24 0 o w n 55 24 n
greattestt comeback iin collllegiiatte hiisttory.. We came back ffrrom 24--0,, tto wiin iitt 55--24.. IIn
baseballll,, II pllayed wiitth some prretttty awesome guys lliike,, Frred Lynn,, Riich Dauerr,, Roy
 baseba         p ayed w h some p e y awesome guys ke F ed Lynn R ch Daue Roy
Smallley,, Ed Puttnam,, Marrviin Cobb,, and Pette Redfferrn.. My ffondestt baseballl memorry iis a
 Sma ey Ed Pu nam Ma v n Cobb and Pe e Red e n My ondes baseba memo y s a
diiviisiion pllayoffff game we pllayed agaiinstt Calliifforrniia Sttatte Los Angelles.. II hiitt ttwo home
 d v s on p ayo game we p ayed aga ns Ca o n a S a e Los Ange es h wo home
rruns tthatt game,, swiittch--hiitttiing,, and siince we werre batttlliing tto go tto tthe NCAA
  uns ha game sw ch h ng and s nce we we e ba ng o go o he NCAA
ttourrnamentt,, iiff II diidn’’tt hiitt tthose rruns,, welll,, tthen we werren’’tt goiing.. II can say,, tthatt was my
  ou namen              d dn h hose uns we hen we we en go ng can say ha was my
mostt iimporrttantt conttrriibuttiion tto USC baseballl,, amongstt alll tthose grreatt atthllettes wiitth whom
 mos mpo an con bu on o USC baseba amongs a hose g ea a h e es w h whom
II pllayed.. Yearrs llatterr,, II saw Georrge Miillke,, and he was ttelllliing tthe sttorry off tthatt game tto
   p ayed Yea s a e saw Geo ge M ke and he was e ng he s o y o ha game o
Darrrrellll Evans,, off Dettrroiitt Tiigerr ffame.. Georrge spoke off how my home rruns nott onlly keptt
 Da e Evans o De o T ge ame Geo ge spoke o how my home uns no on y kep
us alliive fforr tthe NCAA ttourrnamentt,, butt allso prreserrviing hiis viicttorry as wiinniing piittcherr
 us a ve o he NCAA ou namen bu a so p ese v ng h s v c o y as w nn ng p che
agaiinstt Call Sttatte LA.. II was lliike,, a kiid lliistteniing tto hiis ffattherr ttelll a sttorry,, because II neverr
 aga ns Ca S a e LA was ke a k d s en ng o h s a he e a s o y because neve
tthoughtt Georrge Miillke woulld ellaborratte lliike tthatt iin my prresence;; and II was conttentt,, II was
  hough Geo ge M ke wou d e abo a e ke ha n my p esence and was con en was
a prroud Trrojjan tthatt day..
 a p oud T o an ha day
 I think back to 1972 and my start as a University of Southern California football player.
 We were playing against the Oregon Ducks, in Eugene, Oregon on a rain-soaked field. I
 was not a starter; I was a third-stringer. The 1972 Trojans were battling Oregon, 0-0 and
 both our first and second-string tailbacks could no longer play due to injuries they
 received. John Robinson, the assistant coach at the time, walked up to me as I sat on the
 edge of the bench. He looked me square in the eye, and with some serious concern he
 said, “A.D., you have to go.” And that was a terrible thing for me to hear. It was cold,
 and raining, and my entire body was tight. But, with that demand, the adrenaline ran
 through my body, like a NASCAR racecar.
 Entering that football game, I thought they would let me adjust to the game, and figure
 out the flow; but they didn’t. They called my play right away: “HAW 48-pitch left.” I
 heard those words and all I could think was, this is a terrible call, and cold rain. But all
 the stars and planets must have been aligned, because when that ball was snapped, I got a
 couple of blocks to the end zone and I was on my way for a 48-yard touchdown. I could
 finally breathe a sigh of relief when I sat back down on that bench. All my teammates
 were proud. Although I had entered cold and tight, I went in there and scored a
 touchdown. It was the first time I had touched the ball. My rest would not last as long as I
 would have hoped, for less than 60 seconds later I was back on the field. The Oregon
 Ducks had fumbled on the 45-yard line, and we were back on the field with the ball in
 our possession. Again, I figured they would let me settle into the rhythm of the game, and
 they would call the play for someone else.
 In the huddle, Mike Rae, Sam Cunningham, Edesel Garrison, Lynn Sawn, Charles
 Young, and Pete Adams were all looking at me, and I figured they knew something I
 didn’t. Mike Rae barked out the play: “HAW 28-pitch.” To myself, I thought, that’s a
 terrible call, why me, are they testing me? They pitched the ball left, I caught a block
 off-tackle, picked up a block from Edesel, who happened to be our fastest guy on the
 team, and he kindly escorted me to the end zone, for a 55-yard touchdown. Through that
 performance, we preserved our undefeated status. I rushed for 206 yards on 25 carries.
 We beat Oregon, 18-0. And that would be the start of my Trojan football tradition
experience.
Many people thought I was brash and cocky, but that is what made me the football player
I was. And my teammates knew this. All my years at USC, that was my attitude along
with my teammates: team first, individual accomplishments second. Out of the three
teams I played on, two of them national champs, there is one player that stands out in my
mind. Richard “Batman” Wood was a defensive player, and he fit his name. He was built
like a bat. The amazing thing about Richard’s accomplishments at USC is that he was the
only three-time All-American in the school’s history until Matt Leinart. No one else had
accomplished that. To this day, I admire that in him.
        Fight On!



Known as the "Notre Dame Killer" and the "Notre Dame Nemesis," A.D.'s two
games against the Fighting Irish in 1972 and 1974 may well be two of the best games
- if not simply the two best, period - in college football history. He scored 11
touchdowns against Notre Dame (six, 1972; one, 1973; four, 1974). A.D. was selected
to some All-American teams all three of his varsity years, and was a consensus first
team All-American in 1974. He was "robbed" of the '74 Heisman Trophy when
most votes were cast prior to his out-of-this-world performance in Troy's 55-24 win
over Notre Dame. Davis played in three Rose Bowls, two of them victories, and was
a member of two national champions in football (the "all-time best" 1972 team, and
the "most exciting ever" 1974 Trojans). He was the Voit award-winner for best
player on the Pacific Coast (1972, 1974) and the Pop Warner award-winner for most
valuable senior on the Coast (1974). Davis was first team All-Pacific-8 Conference in
1973-74 and a Playboy Pre-Season All-American (1974). He played in the 1975 Hula
Bowl, and was a star outfielder on the 1973-74 College World Series champion
Trojan baseball team. The '73 Trojans were at the time considered the best baseball
squad in collegiate annals. A.D. is a member of the USC Athletic Hall of Fame and
National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame. Drafted by the New York Jets,
Davis played for the Oilers, Buccaneers and Rams, became an actor, model, USC
personality, and is one of the associate producers of the film based on the book One
Night, Two Teams: Alabama vs. USC and the Game That Changed a Nation.

                                            PAT HADEN
                                            PAT HADEN

Quartterback
Quar erback
1972 -- 1974
1972 1974


Wellll,, you know tthe sttorry.. II was tthe quarrtterrback att Biishop Amatt hiigh Schooll.. My bestt
 We you know he s o y was he qua e back a B shop Ama h gh Schoo My bes
ffrriiend was tthe wiide rreceiiverr,, John K.. McKay -- son off Coach John McKay -- whom we
      end was he w de ece ve John K McKay son o Coach John McKay whom we
knew as J..K.. My dad was ttrransfferrrred fforr hiis jjob tto Wallnutt Crreek iin tthe San Frranciisco
 knew as J K My dad was ans e ed o h s ob o Wa nu C eek n he San F anc sco
Bay Arrea,, butt II wantted tto sttay att Biishop Amatt and pllay my seniiorr yearr.. The diillemma
 Bay A ea bu wan ed o s ay a B shop Ama and p ay my sen o yea The d emma
was sollved when Coach McKay offfferred tto llett me lliive iin hiis house tthatt yearr.. II rroomed
 was so ved when Coach McKay o e ed o e me ve n h s house ha yea                                oomed
wiitth Riich McKay,, now generrall managerr off tthe Attllantta Fallcons.. So,, II was lliiviing wiitth
 w h R ch McKay now gene a manage o he A an a Fa cons So was v ng w h
Coach McKay''s ffamiilly iin tthe ffallll off 1970..
 Coach McKay s am y n he a o 1970
            II brroke alll tthe Calliifforrniia sttatte passiing rrecorrds and was hiighlly rrecrruiitted.. Beiing
                b oke a he Ca o n a s a e pass ng eco ds and was h gh y ec u ed Be ng
Cattholliic,, II was enamorred by Nottrre Dame.. Arra Parrseghiian was ttheiirr coach.. He was
 Ca ho c was enamo ed by No e Dame A a Pa segh an was he coach He was
charriismattiic and tthe IIrriish werre verry sttrrong att tthatt ttiime.. My mottherr lleaned ttowarrds my
 cha sma c and he sh we e ve y s ong a ha me My mo he eaned owa ds my
goiing ttherre..
 go ng he e
            II was verry sttrrong academiicallly and ttherrefforre atttrractted tto Sttanfforrd,, as tthey werre
                was ve y s ong academ ca y and he e o e a ac ed o S an o d as hey we e
good iin ffoottballl tthen and had an emphasiis on tthe passiing game.. Alll tthese prrogrrams and
 good n oo ba hen and had an emphas s on he pass ng game A hese p og ams and
morre sentt ttheiirr rrecrruiitterrs tto see me,, and siince II lliived iin Coach McKay's house,, tthey mett
 mo e sen he ec u e s o see me and s nce ved n Coach McKay's house hey me
wiitth me iin hiis lliiviing rroom.. He woulld sttand offff tto tthe siide,, smokiing hiis ciigarr wiitth a
 w h me n h s v ng oom He wou d s and o o he s de smok ng h s c ga w h a
Cheshiirre catt grriin on hiis fface.. He was asked iiff he everr worrrriied tthatt he woulld nott lland
 Chesh e ca g n on h s ace He was asked he eve wo ed ha he wou d no and
J..K..,, who was allso hiighlly rrecrruiitted,, orr mysellff..
 J K who was a so h gh y ec u ed o myse
            "No,," he saiid.. "One slleeps iin tthe upsttaiirrs bedrroom and II''m slleepiing wiitth tthe ottherr
             "No " he sa d "One s eeps n he ups a s bed oom and m s eep ng w h he o he
one's mottherr.."
 one's mo he "
            II lliived iin tthe house when USC ttrravelled tto Allabama fforr tthatt hiisttorriic game crrediitted
                   ved n he house when USC ave ed o A abama o ha h s o c game c ed ed
wiitth iinttegrrattiing Souttherrn sporrtts.. II have been asked aboutt tthatt;; tthe rrellattiionshiip bettween
 w h n eg a ng Sou he n spo s have been asked abou ha he e a onsh p be ween
Coach McKay and Bearr Brryantt,, tthe pllans fforr tthatt game and whatt tthey werre hopiing tto
 Coach McKay and Bea B yan he p ans o ha game and wha hey we e hop ng o
accomplliish.. Regarrdiing tthiis game,, II do nott rrecalll much aboutt Coach McKay speakiing tto
 accomp sh Rega d ng h s game do no eca much abou Coach McKay speak ng o
me wiitth grreatt siigniiffiicance aboutt iitt.. II''ve rread aboutt iitt,, and 35 yearrs llatterr iitt seems morre
 me w h g ea s gn cance abou                            ve ead abou         and 35 yea s a e seems mo e
                                          t was no on TV Pe haps he saw A abama was p edom nan y
iimporrttantt tthan iitt diid tthen.. IIt was nott on TV.. Perrhaps he saw Allabama was prredomiinanttlly
  mpo an han d d hen
orr enttiirrelly whiitte,, butt ttheiirr etthniiciitty was nott apparrentt ffrrom my vanttagepoiintt.. II diidn'tt hearr
 o en e y wh e bu he e hn c y was no appa en om my van agepo n d dn' hea
much aboutt iitt tthen,, butt siince tthen iitt's grrown iin iimporrttance.. II diidn'tt know much aboutt iitt att
 much abou               hen bu s nce hen 's g own n mpo ance d dn' know much abou a
tthe ttiime,, tthe sociiall conttextt off iitt was nott diiscussed parrttiicullarrlly..
  he me he soc a con ex o was no d scussed pa cu a y
            IItt may have been tthe biig tthiing tthatt peoplle say iitt was,, butt II have miixed emottiions
                  may have been he b g h ng ha peop e say was bu have m xed emo ons

aboutt iitt.. II consiiderr whettherr tthe rreviisiioniistt hiisttorry iis tthatt Bearr Brryantt had on hiis miind
abou             cons de whe he he ev s on s h s o y s ha Bea B yan had on h s m nd

tthatt he woulld brriing an iinttegrratted tteam wiitth Affrriican--Amerriicans down tto pllay,, jjustt tto
  ha he wou d b ng an n eg a ed eam w h A can Ame cans down o p ay us o

iinttegrratte hiis prrogrram.. II coulld be wrrong,, butt tthatt's nott my perrcepttiion.. II jjustt tthiink he had a
  n eg a e h s p og am cou d be w ong bu ha 's no my pe cep on us h nk he had a

drriink iin tthe offff--season wiitth McKay and tthey deciided tto pllay tthatt game..
d nk n he o season w h McKay and hey dec ded o p ay ha game

   'm h nk ng ha Ma n Lu he K ng was he " pp ng po n " t was h s eade sh p see
II'm tthiinkiing tthatt Marrttiin Luttherr Kiing was tthe "ttiippiing poiintt.." IIt was hiis lleaderrshiip.. II see
tthiis game morre fforr iinttegrrattiing off atthllettiic tteams tthan tthe overrallll Ciiviill Riightts Movementt..
   h s game mo e o n eg a ng o a h e c eams han he ove a C v R gh s Movemen
Allabama assiisttantt coach Jerrrry Cllaiiborrne may have saiid Sam Cunniingham,, diid morre fforr
 A abama ass s an coach Je y C a bo ne may have sa d Sam Cunn ngham d d mo e o
ciiviill rriightts tthan Kiing,, butt coaches sayiing tthatt,, tthey don'tt allways have tthe brroadestt
 c v gh s han K ng bu coaches say ng ha hey don' a ways have he b oades
culltturrall conttextt.. Books have been wrriittten and Holllywood wiilll have iitts say as tto whatt
 cu u a con ex Books have been w en and Ho ywood w have s say as o wha
happened,, and whatt iitt's meaniing iis..
 happened and wha 's mean ng s
When iitt was alll saiid and done ttherre was neverr any rreall consiiderrattiion off anottherr schooll..
 When was a sa d and done he e was neve any ea cons de a on o ano he schoo
J..K.. and II werre sophomorres on tthe 1972 nattiionall champiions.. II have been arround collllege
 J K and we e sophomo es on he 1972 na ona champ ons have been a ound co ege
ffoottballll allll my lliiffe and have tto agrree iitt was tthe ffiinestt tteam everr assemblled.. Miike Rae
   oo ba a my e and have o ag ee was he nes eam eve assemb ed M ke Rae
was ourr sttarrttiing quarrtterrback and he had a magniiffiicentt season.. Because off tthe many
 was ou s a ng qua e back and he had a magn cen season Because o he many
bllowoutts II gott a ffaiirr amountt off pllayiing ttiime,, as diid J..K.. pllayiing behiind Lynn Swann.. We
 b owou s go a a amoun o p ay ng me as d d J K p ay ng beh nd Lynn Swann We
werre neverr rrealllly "pushed" tthe wholle season.. The cllosestt was an 18--0 shuttoutt up att
 we e neve ea y "pushed" he who e season The c oses was an 18 0 shu ou up a
Orregon iin tthe rraiin..
 O egon n he a n
The sttorry rrevollviing arround J..K.. and II was tthatt II spentt my ttiime sttudyiing whiille J..K..
 The s o y evo v ng a ound J K and was ha spen my me s udy ng wh e J K
enjjoyed parrttyiing.. Ha!! Maybe.. II guess ttherre's sometthiing tto tthatt..
 en oyed pa y ng Ha Maybe guess he e's some h ng o ha
We won tthe nattiionall champiionshiip agaiin iin 1974.. John Robiinson had iimpllementted a
 We won he na ona champ onsh p aga n n 1974 John Rob nson had mp emen ed a
morre pass--ffrriiendlly offffense iin tthe prre--season,, butt iin tthe openerr wiitth Arrkansas II diidn'tt
 mo e pass end y o ense n he p e season bu n he opene w h A kansas d dn'
tthiink II passed one tto ourr guys unttiill tthe tthiirrd quarrtterr.. II was awffull and we llostt,, butt we rran
  h nk passed one o ou guys un he h d qua e was aw u and we os bu we an
tthe ttablle prretttty much afftterr tthatt tto ttake a second nattiionall ttiittlle iin tthrree yearrs.. We sttayed on
  he ab e p e y much a e ha o ake a second na ona                                  e n h ee yea s We s ayed on
tthe grround butt wentt tto tthe aiirr when we had tto do.. II hiitt J..K.. fforr tthe wiinniing ttouchdown iin
  he g ound bu wen o he a when we had o do h J K o he w nn ng ouchdown n
tthe Rose Bowll overr Ohiio Sttatte.. Then we wentt fforr ttwo and II was goiing tto rrun iitt iin,, butt
  he Rose Bow ove Oh o S a e Then we wen o wo and was go ng o un n bu
ttherre was a walll off Buckeyes so II pulllled up and saw a "ffllash.." IItt was Shelltton Diiggs iin tthe
  he e was a wa o Buckeyes so pu ed up and saw a " ash " was She on D ggs n he
end zone,, and he made a grreatt cattch tto wiin iitt,, 18--17..
 end zone and he made a g ea ca ch o w n 18 17
II was conviinced tthatt tthe schollarrshiip lliimiittattiions on a prriivatte schooll,, combiined wiitth
   was conv nced ha he scho a sh p m a ons on a p va e schoo comb ned w h
iincrreased academiic emphasiis,, had crreatted an enviirronmentt wherreby USC woulld neverr
  nc eased academ c emphas s had c ea ed an env onmen whe eby USC wou d neve
rretturrn tto tthatt kiind off gllorry,, butt II was plleasanttlly surrprriised tthatt Pette Carrrrolll was ablle tto do
  e u n o ha k nd o g o y bu was p easan y su p sed ha Pe e Ca o was ab e o do
whatt he's done..
 wha he's done

Patt Haden pllayed ffor tthe 1972 Trojjans,, colllege ffoottballl''s alll--ttiime greattestt squad.. He
Pa Haden p ayed or he 1972 Tro ans co ege oo ba s a                            me grea es squad He

was a member off tthree Rose Bowll tteams,, wiinniing ttwo off tthem,, and ttwo nattiionall
was a member o hree Rose Bow eams w nn ng wo o hem and wo na ona

champiions ((1972,, 1974)).. He orchesttratted tthe "55 poiintts iin 17 miinuttes" wiin over
champ ons 1972 1974 He orches ra ed he "55 po n s n 17 m nu es" w n over

Nottre Dame iin 1974 and tthe 18--17 comeback--and--ttwo--poiintt--conversiion viicttory over
No re Dame n 1974 and he 18 17 comeback and wo po n convers on v c ory over

Ohiio Sttatte iin tthe 1975 Rose Bowll,, earniing Pllayer off tthe Game and Rose Bowll Halll
Oh o S a e n he 1975 Rose Bow earn ng P ayer o he Game and Rose Bow Ha

off Fame honors as wellll.. Haden was tteam capttaiin and MVP iin 1974,, an Academiic
o Fame honors as we Haden was eam cap a n and MVP n 1974 an Academ c

Alll--Ameriican ((1973--74)),, an NCAA Today''s Top Eiightt academiic honoree ((1974)),, and
A Amer can 1973 74 an NCAA Today s Top E gh academ c honoree 1974 and

a USC Nattiionall Foundattiion Schollar Atthllette ((1974)).. He was sellectted ffor tthe Hulla
a USC Na ona Founda on Scho ar A h e e 1974 He was se ec ed or he Hu a

Bowll iin hiis seniior year and iis iin tthe USC Atthllettiic Halll off Fame.. Patt earned a
Bow n h s sen or year and s n he USC A h e c Ha o Fame Pa earned a

Rhode''s Schollarshiip tto sttudy polliittiics att Oxfford Colllege iin Englland.. Drafftted by tthe
Rhode s Scho arsh p o s udy po cs a Ox ord Co ege n Eng and Dra ed by he

Los Angelles Rams,, afftter compllettiing hiis postt--graduatte sttudiies he quartterbacked
Los Ange es Rams a er comp e ng h s pos gradua e s ud es he quar erbacked

tthem tto tthe 1976 Nattiionall Foottballl Confference champiionshiip game ((1976)) and was,,
  hem o he 1976 Na ona Foo ba Con erence champ onsh p game 1976 and was

allong wiitth Charlles Young,, a member off tthe 1979 tteam tthatt llostt tthe Super Bowll tto
a ong w h Char es Young a member o he 1979 eam ha os he Super Bow o

Lynn Swann and Piittttsburgh att tthe Rose Bowll.. Afftter rettiirementt he became a
Lynn Swann and P sburgh a he Rose Bow A er re remen he became a

corporatte attttorney iin downttown Los Angelles whose name has offtten been menttiioned
corpora e a orney n down own Los Ange es whose name has o en been men oned

as a polliittiicall candiidatte.. He allso has been a llongttiime colllege ffoottballl TV anallystt,, iin
as a po ca cand da e He a so has been a ong me co ege oo ba TV ana ys n
recentt years coveriing Nottre Dame ffor NBC..
recen years cover ng No re Dame or NBC



RICH MCKAY
RICH MCKAY

SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000



IIff tthe llastt name sounds ffamiilliiar,, iitt iis because iitt iis.. The McKay name evokes ttradiittiion and
       he as name sounds am ar                     s because s The McKay name evokes rad on and

success lliike ffew iin Soutthern Calliifforniia.. John McKay was tthe greattestt coach iin tthe
success ke ew n Sou hern Ca orn a John McKay was he grea es coach n he

hiisttory off USC''s sttoriied ffoottballll program.. Hiis son,, John ((known as J..K..)),, was a sttar
h s ory o USC s s or ed oo ba program H s son John known as J K was a s ar

receiiver ffor tthe Trojjans'' nattiionall champiionshiip tteam iin 1974.. There was anotther
rece ver or he Tro ans na ona champ onsh p eam n 1974 There was ano her

McKay,, however,, and hiis patth -- Biishop Amatt Hiigh tto USC and success iin Los Angelles
McKay however and h s pa h B shop Ama H gh o USC and success n Los Ange es

based on name and ttallentt -- was iintterruptted..
based on name and a en was n errup ed

         Riich McKay was iindeed a ttop quartterback att Biishop Amatt Hiigh Schooll iin La
         R ch McKay was ndeed a op quar erback a B shop Ama H gh Schoo n La

Puentte.. He was good enough tto compette ffor tthe sttarttiing jjob wiitth Paull McDonalld,, who
Puen e He was good enough o compe e or he s ar ng ob w h Pau McDona d who

woulld go on tto an Allll--Ameriican career lleadiing SC''s 1978 nattiionall champiions,, beffore
wou d go on o an A Amer can career ead ng SC s 1978 na ona champ ons be ore

ttakiing over as tthe Cllevelland Browns'' sttartter.. Butt when McKay''s seniior season rollled
  ak ng over as he C eve and Browns s ar er Bu when McKay s sen or season ro ed

around,, sometthiing happened tto diisruptt whatt appeared tto be hiis desttiiny.. Hiis ffatther
around some h ng happened o d srup wha appeared o be h s des ny H s a her

rettiired ffrom USC tto ttake over tthe expansiion Tampa Bay Buccaneers iin 1976.. Riich
re red rom USC o ake over he expans on Tampa Bay Buccaneers n 1976 R ch

ffolllowed hiis dad tto Tampa and enrollled att Jesuiitt Hiigh Schooll..
  o owed h s dad o Tampa and enro ed a Jesu H gh Schoo

J..K..''s patth was allready llaiid outt----a sttiintt iin tthe pros ffolllowed by llaw schooll and a career
 J K s pa h was a ready a d ou a s n n he pros o owed by aw schoo and a career
workiing ffor Ed Roskii ((tthe reall esttatte mogull ttryiing tto briing tthe NFL back tto tthe
 work ng or Ed Rosk he rea es a e mogu ry ng o br ng he NFL back o he
Colliiseum))..
 Co seum
Riich woulld nott atttend SC as pllanned,, choosiing iinsttead tthe IIvy League and llaw schooll,,
 R ch wou d no a end SC as p anned choos ng ns ead he vy League and aw schoo
ffolllowed by emplloymentt as tthe Buccaneers'' atttorney.. However,, tthe ffactt tthatt hiis ffatther
  o owed by emp oymen as he Buccaneers a orney However he ac ha h s a her
had been Tampa Bay''s coach,, combiined wiitth tthe knowlledge and skiillls acquiired over
 had been Tampa Bay s coach comb ned w h he know edge and sk s acqu red over
years off llearniing ffrom tthe mastter,, made hiim tthe llogiicall choiice tto ttake over as tthe tteam''s
 years o earn ng rom he mas er made h m he og ca cho ce o ake over as he eam s
generall manager.. Today,, he iis consiidered one off tthe keenestt miinds iin tthe Nattiionall
 genera manager Today he s cons dered one o he keenes m nds n he Na ona
Foottballll League.. The Guru caughtt up wiitth hiim iin bettween tthe drafftt and ttraiiniing camp,,
 Foo ba League The Guru caugh up w h h m n be ween he dra and ra n ng camp
and tthe conversattiion wentt ffrom USC tto Tampa Bay''s recentt ttransacttiions,, tthe ttrends iin
 and he conversa on wen rom USC o Tampa Bay s recen ransac ons he rends n
collllege ffoottballl,, and tthe gllory days off Biishop Amatt..
 co ege oo ba and he g ory days o B shop Ama
The Buccaneers'' recenttlly piicked up Keyshawn Johnson,, USC''s fformer Allll--Ameriican wiide
 The Buccaneers recen y p cked up Keyshawn Johnson USC s ormer A Amer can w de
receiiver,, ffrom tthe New York Jetts.. McKay was asked iiff Keyshawn''s Trojjan hiisttory was a
 rece ver rom he New York Je s McKay was asked Keyshawn s Tro an h s ory was a
ffacttor iin hiis getttiing piicked by Tampa Bay..
  ac or n h s ge ng p cked by Tampa Bay
"He was a greatt pllayer att SC,, and off course we scoutted hiim,," saiid McKay.. "II lliike tto see
 "He was a grea p ayer a SC and o course we scou ed h m " sa d McKay " ke o see
Trojjans iin tthe proffessiionall ranks,, and iitt was easy tto evalluatte hiim att SC,, where he was
 Tro ans n he pro ess ona ranks and was easy o eva ua e h m a SC where he was
very producttiive,, one off ttheiir alll--ttiime lleadiing receiivers.. Maiinlly,, tthough,, we need hiis
 very produc ve one o he r a me ead ng rece vers Ma n y hough we need h s
aggressiive personalliitty.. Keyshawn briings tto us whatt we tthoughtt we were miissiing.. We
 aggress ve persona y Keyshawn br ngs o us wha we hough we were m ss ng We
have an expecttattiion llevell ffor hiim on offfense,, where we have nott been producttiive because
 have an expec a on eve or h m on o ense where we have no been produc ve because
we llack tthe kiind off aggressiive miindsett tthatt we do have on tthe deffensiive siide off tthe balll..
 we ack he k nd o aggress ve m ndse ha we do have on he de ens ve s de o he ba
When he became avaiillablle,, iitt became a ffiitt.."
 When he became ava ab e became a "
McKay was tthen asked aboutt tthe currentt down sttatte off Trojjan ffoottballl..
 McKay was hen asked abou he curren down s a e o Tro an oo ba
"II''ve known coach <Paull> Hackettt ffor a llong ttiime,," says McKay,, "and II''ve seen hiis
 " ve known coach <Pau > Hacke or a ong me " says McKay "and ve seen h s
abiilliitty wherever he''s been.. II''ve seen tthe program sttrugglle ever siince tthe tteams iin tthe
 ab y wherever he s been ve seen he program s rugg e ever s nce he eams n he
Paciiffiic Nortthwestt sttartted ttakiing pllayers who ttradiittiionallly go tto SC.. IItt sttiilll getts down tto
 Pac c Nor hwes s ar ed ak ng p ayers who rad ona y go o SC s ge s down o
who getts tthe pllayers,, and Don James changed tthiings when he buiilltt a powerhouse att
 who ge s he p ayers and Don James changed h ngs when he bu a powerhouse a
Washiingtton.. When tthey gott on a rolll,, tthey became domiinantt and iitt''s been hard tto gett
 Wash ng on When hey go on a ro hey became dom nan and s been hard o ge
back tto where tthey were beffore tthatt.."
 back o where hey were be ore ha "
Whatt aboutt tthe sttatte he lliives iin now,, Flloriida? Calliifforniia kiids are goiing tto Flloriida and
 Wha abou he s a e he ves n now F or da? Ca orn a k ds are go ng o F or da and
SEC schoolls,, and many say tthatt iitt iis because off tthe iincreased entthusiiasm ffor ffoottballl iin
 SEC schoo s and many say ha                     s because o he ncreased en hus asm or oo ba n
tthatt regiion..
  ha reg on
"Flloriida iis uniique,," iis McKay''s ttake.. "The key iis tthey keep pllayers wiitthiin tthe sttatte..
 "F or da s un que " s McKay s ake "The key s hey keep p ayers w h n he s a e
Flloriida Sttatte seems tto have won tthatt batttlle tthe llastt ffew years.. IItt used tto be tthatt many
 F or da S a e seems o have won ha ba e he as ew years used o be ha many
good pllayers woulld go outt off sttatte.. IIn assessiing tthe entthusiiasm llevell off Flloriida ffoottballl
 good p ayers wou d go ou o s a e n assess ng he en hus asm eve o F or da oo ba
ffans vs.. Calliifforniia,, tthere''s no doubtt tthatt ffoottballl comes number one iin Flloriida.. Thatt''s
  ans vs Ca orn a here s no doub ha oo ba comes number one n F or da Tha s
nott ttrue iin Calliifforniia,, butt iin tterms off creattiing attmosphere,, II remember tthe USC
 no rue n Ca orn a bu n erms o crea ng a mosphere remember he USC
attmosphere tto be tthe bestt around.."
 a mosphere o be he bes around "
Thiis comes ffrom a guy who has seen hiis share off ffoottballll att every llevell..
 Th s comes rom a guy who has seen h s share o oo ba a every eve
"IIff tthe Pac--10 can gett back tto tthe success tthey''ve had,," he conttiinues,, "tthen tthe
 " he Pac 10 can ge back o he success hey ve had " he con nues " hen he
entthusiiasm wiilll be jjustt as ttremendous as ever.."
 en hus asm w be us as remendous as ever "
McKay iis tthen asked tto a ttake ttriip down Memory Lane.. Biishop Amatt was a greatt power
 McKay s hen asked o a ake r p down Memory Lane B shop Ama was a grea power
iin tthe 1960s and ''70s.. SC''s Allll--Ameriican lliinebacker Adriian Young came outt off tthe
  n he 1960s and 70s SC s A Amer can nebacker Adr an Young came ou o he
Lancers'' program.. Gary Mariinoviich,, tthe brotther off Marv and unclle off Todd,, was ttheiir
 Lancers program Gary Mar nov ch he bro her o Marv and unc e o Todd was he r
coach.. Patt Haden was tthe nattiion''s ttop hiigh schooll quartterback iin 1970,, and hiis ffavoriitte
 coach Pa Haden was he na on s op h gh schoo quar erback n 1970 and h s avor e
receiiver was hiis bestt ffriiend,, J..K.. McKay.. Haden''s ffatther was ttransfferred by hiis company
 rece ver was h s bes r end J K McKay Haden s a her was rans erred by h s company
tto Wallnutt Creek,, butt Haden diid nott wantt tto go tto Acallanes,, Nortthgatte or De La Sallle,,
  o Wa nu Creek bu Haden d d no wan o go o Aca anes Nor hga e or De La Sa e
tthe schooll''s off choiice iin tthatt area.. He wantted tto sttay att Biishop Amatt.. A solluttiion was
  he schoo s o cho ce n ha area He wan ed o s ay a B shop Ama A so u on was
ffound.. He woulld become 11--year olld Riich''s roommatte att tthe McKay home..
  ound He wou d become 11 year o d R ch s roomma e a he McKay home
Thatt year,, whiille Haden lliitt up tthe prep ffoottballl worlld,, tthe recruiitters ffrom Sttanfford,, Nottre
 Tha year wh e Haden up he prep oo ba wor d he recru ers rom S an ord No re
Dame and Nebraska ffound tthatt iin order tto gett a siitt--down wiitth Patt,, tthey had tto ttrek tto SC
 Dame and Nebraska ound ha n order o ge a s down w h Pa hey had o rek o SC
coach McKay''s house,, siitt iin hiis lliiviing room,, and driink hiis cofffee..
 coach McKay s house s n h s v ng room and dr nk h s co ee
"Patt lliived att tthe house,," recallls Riich.. "He was my roommatte,, and he and my brotther
 "Pa ved a he house " reca s R ch "He was my roomma e and he and my bro her
were iinseparablle buddiies who had experiienced ttremendous success ttogetther.. II tthiink tthey
 were nseparab e budd es who had exper enced remendous success oge her h nk hey
llostt tthe <CIIF> ffiinalls tto Bllaiir att tthe Colliiseum,, and tthere mustt have been 40 or 50,,000
  os he <C F> na s o B a r a he Co seum and here mus have been 40 or 50 000
peoplle iin tthe sttands.. IItt was natturall tthatt Patt woulldn''tt move,, and natturall tthatt he lliived wiitth
 peop e n he s ands was na ura ha Pa wou dn move and na ura ha he ved w h
us.. The NCAA may have questtiioned iitt,, II tthiink Sttanfford made an iissue off iitt,, butt Patt was a
 us The NCAA may have ques oned                          h nk S an ord made an ssue o               bu Pa was a
smartt guy who made tthe deciisiion on hiis own and nobody coulld diisputte tthatt.. II tthiink he
 smar guy who made he dec s on on h s own and nobody cou d d spu e ha                                   h nk he
diid viisiitt Nottre Dame,, and iin ffactt hiis mom wantted hiim tto go tthere,, because off tthe
 d d v s No re Dame and n ac h s mom wan ed h m o go here because o he
Cattholliic connecttiion.. Ara Parseghiian was ttheiir coach,, and iitt was an atttracttiive opttiion..
 Ca ho c connec on Ara Parsegh an was he r coach and was an a rac ve op on
Tom Osborne was Nebraska''s ttop recruiitter back tthen,, Bob Devaney was sttiillll ttheiir coach..
 Tom Osborne was Nebraska s op recru er back hen Bob Devaney was s                                     he r coach
He came tto tthe house..
 He came o he house
"As ffor J..K..,, he caughtt 96 ballls one year,, tthen 108 tthe nextt att Biishop Amatt.. He was a
 "As or J K he caugh 96 ba s one year hen 108 he nex a B shop Ama He was a
ffulllback,, butt Gary Mariinoviich putt iin a passiing scheme and made J..K.. a receiiver.. II
   u back bu Gary Mar nov ch pu n a pass ng scheme and made J K a rece ver
remember a game att Mtt.. SAC,, iin tthe ffiirstt round off tthe pllay--offffs,, where opponentts woulld
 remember a game a M SAC n he rs round o he p ay o s where opponen s wou d
ttriiplle--tteam J..K.. They''d lliine up ttwo guys att tthe lliine tto ttry tto sttop hiim,, and anotther iin tthe
   r p e eam J K They d ne up wo guys a he ne o ry o s op h m and ano her n he
backffiielld.. He diidn''tt cattch any passes iin tthe ffiirstt hallff,, butt made 11 recepttiions iin tthe
 back e d He d dn ca ch any passes n he rs ha bu made 11 recep ons n he
second.. IItt was a llott off ffun,, seeiing my brotther have tthatt kiind off success..
 second was a o o un see ng my bro her have ha k nd o success
"II saw Adriian Young att SC,, butt nott att Amatt,, because we lliived near Soutth Hiillls Hiigh and
 " saw Adr an Young a SC bu no a Ama because we ved near Sou h H s H gh and
were nott aware off Amatt unttiill tthe deciisiion came tto go tthere afftter moviing a miille ffrom tthe
 were no aware o Ama un he dec s on came o go here a er mov ng a m e rom he
schooll.."
 schoo "
The program was so compettiittiive tthatt John Sciiarra had tto siitt and waiitt hiis tturn tto pllay..
 The program was so compe ve ha John Sc arra had o s and wa h s urn o p ay
"John''s a niice guy and a good ffriiend,," says McKay.. "He ttransfferred iin hiis jjuniior year,,
 "John s a n ce guy and a good r end " says McKay "He rans erred n h s un or year
and pllayed behiind Haden.. He allso pllayed deffensiive back and retturned kiicks and puntts,,
 and p ayed beh nd Haden He a so p ayed de ens ve back and re urned k cks and pun s
he was a greatt atthllette.. II allso remember hiim pllayiing ffor tthe Eaglles agaiinstt my Dad.."
 he was a grea a h e e a so remember h m p ay ng or he Eag es aga ns my Dad "
Thiis was afftter Sciiarra ffiinalllly gott tto pllay hiis seniior year att Amatt,, afftter Haden''s
 Th s was a er Sc arra na y go o p ay h s sen or year a Ama a er Haden s
graduattiion.. Natturallly,, John McKay came a--callliin..g tto ttry and gett tthe kiid tto pllay att USC..
 gradua on Na ura y John McKay came a ca n g o ry and ge he k d o p ay a USC
Sciiarra was a tterriiffiic baseballl shorttsttop,, and McKay ttriied tto llure hiim wiitth tthe promiise
 Sc arra was a err c baseba shor s op and McKay r ed o ure h m w h he prom se
off allso pllayiing ffor a nattiionall champiionshiip tteam under Rod Dedeaux.. Sciiarra woulld
 o a so p ay ng or a na ona champ onsh p eam under Rod Dedeaux Sc arra wou d
have none off iitt,, because he had had enough off pllayiing behiind Haden.. He wentt tto UCLA,,
 have none o            because he had had enough o p ay ng beh nd Haden He wen o UCLA
where unseattiing tthe sttartter,, Mark Harmon,, was a llott easiier.. He capped hiis Alll--Ameriican
 where unsea ng he s ar er Mark Harmon was a o eas er He capped h s A Amer can
career tthere wiitth a 1976 Rose Bowll viicttory over Archiie Griifffiin and Ohiio Sttatte..
 career here w h a 1976 Rose Bow v c ory over Arch e Gr n and Oh o S a e
"II had a good career att Amatt mysellff,," Riich recalllls.. "McDonalld was a year ahead off me,,
 " had a good career a Ama myse " R ch reca s "McDona d was a year ahead o me
butt my sophomore year he hurtt hiis lleg agaiinstt Stt.. Paull,, and my jjuniior year II alltternatted
 bu my sophomore year he hur h s eg aga ns S Pau and my un or year a erna ed
wiitth hiim.. We wentt tto tthe pllay--offfs.. McDonalld and Haden were bettter atthllettes tthan tthey
 w h h m We wen o he p ay o s McDona d and Haden were be er a h e es han hey
were giiven crediitt ffor.. They were botth very good baskettballl pllayers wiitth siimiillar work
 were g ven cred or They were bo h very good baske ba p ayers w h s m ar work
etthiics,, who were very iinttellliigentt.. IIn tthe summer,, Paull and II woulld tthrow tthree,, ffour,, ffiive
 e h cs who were very n e gen n he summer Pau and wou d hrow hree our ve
ttiimes a week,, and tthatt work etthiic carriied over tto beyond tthose years.."
    mes a week and ha work e h c carr ed over o beyond hose years "
Riich was asked aboutt growiing up around ffoottballll,, and how much off an advanttage tthiis
 R ch was asked abou grow ng up around oo ba and how much o an advan age h s
was iin groomiing ffor hiis presentt posiittiion..
 was n groom ng or h s presen pos on
"IItt''s a natturall advanttage,," he says,, "butt my dad was acttuallly diiscouragiing us,, he diidn’’tt
 " s a na ura advan age " he says "bu my dad was ac ua y d scourag ng us he d dn
wantt us tto pursue careers iin coachiing because you have tto move your ffamiilly a llott.. He
 wan us o pursue careers n coach ng because you have o move your am y a o He
wantted us tto pursue anotther proffessiion.. Botth J..K.. and II wentt tto llaw schooll,, and II diid iin
 wan ed us o pursue ano her pro ess on Bo h J K and wen o aw schoo and d d n
ffactt become a llawyer,, workiing ffor tthe Buccaneers on pllayer conttractts.. II''ve been around
   ac become a awyer work ng or he Buccaneers on p ayer con rac s ve been around
ffoottballll as llong as II can remember,, and II jjustt graviittatted ttoward tthe jjob II holld now..
   oo ba as ong as can remember and us grav a ed oward he ob ho d now
"II was aware off my Dad''s presence when II was a kiid,, you were allways John McKay''s
 " was aware o my Dad s presence when was a k d you were a ways John McKay s
son,, and siince we allmostt never llostt att SC,, iitt was a good tthiing.. Butt certtaiinlly when you
 son and s nce we a mos never os a SC was a good h ng Bu cer a n y when you
llose 26 sttraiightt games iin a row att Tampa,, tthatt was a biig tturnaround.. The ttoughestt tthiing
   ose 26 s ra gh games n a row a Tampa ha was a b g urnaround The oughes h ng
off alll was how much ttiime my Dad spentt on tthe road,, he was allways gone.."
 o a was how much me my Dad spen on he road he was a ways gone "
Riich has managed tto esttablliish sttabiilliitty ffor hiimsellff iin Tampa Bay,, where hiis ffatther allso
 R ch has managed o es ab sh s ab y or h mse n Tampa Bay where h s a her a so

lliives,, and consiideriing hiis success so ffar,, one can iimagiine tthatt he may be tthere a llong
    ves and cons der ng h s success so ar one can mag ne ha he may be here a ong
ttiime..
    me




                                               GENE LAWRYK
                                               GENE LAWRYK

Centter
Cen er
1976
1976

II pllayed iin ffourr Rose Bowlls.. II was iin on tthe kiickoffffs and tthe rretturrns iin allll off tthem.. IIn
   p ayed n ou Rose Bow s was n on he k cko s and he e u ns n a o hem n

1973 we beatt Ohiio Sttatte,, 42--17.. IIn 1974 tthey rretturrned tthe ffavorr,, 42--21.. IIn 1975 we
1973 we bea Oh o S a e 42 17 n 1974 hey e u ned he avo 42 21 n 1975 we

edged tthem,, 18--17,, and iin 1977 we beatt Miichiigan,, 14--6.. Miike Corrdelll pllayed iin tthrree..
edged hem 18 17 and n 1977 we bea M ch gan 14 6 M ke Co de p ayed n h ee

As bestt II can ttelll,, II'm tthe onlly pllayerr iin tthe 20tth Centturry tto pllay iin ffourr..
As bes can e 'm he on y p aye n he 20 h Cen u y o p ay n ou

           Because off tthe BCS iitt prrobablly won'tt happen agaiin.. Now tthe BCS ttiittlle game,,
            Because o he BCS p obab y won' happen aga n Now he BCS e game
even iiff iitt's att tthe Rose Bowll,, iis nott offffiiciiallly tthe Rose Bowll game.. You can wiin tthe
 even          's a he Rose Bow s no o c a y he Rose Bow game You can w n he
Pac--10 orr tthe Biig 10 butt nott pllay iin tthe Rose Bowll iiff you pllay iin tthe BCS champiionshiip..
 Pac 10 o he B g 10 bu no p ay n he Rose Bow you p ay n he BCS champ onsh p
II tthiink John Daviid Bootty allmostt gott ttherre.. He was on tthe tteam tthatt beatt Miichiigan iin tthe
     h nk John Dav d Boo y a mos go he e He was on he eam ha bea M ch gan n he
2004 game,, rred--shiirrtted when we beatt OU iin tthe BCS ttiittlle,, satt tthe bench iin tthe '06 BCS
 2004 game ed sh ed when we bea OU n he BCS e sa he bench n he '06 BCS
Rose Bowll ((whiich was sttiilll tthe Rose Bowll game)),, tthen pllayed iin ttwo ((2007--08)),, butt he
 Rose Bow wh ch was s                 he Rose Bow game hen p ayed n wo 2007 08 bu he
diidn'tt pllay agaiinstt Texas and II don'tt tthiink he pllayed agaiinstt Miichiigan iin tthe ffiirrstt one..
 d dn' p ay aga ns Texas and don' h nk he p ayed aga ns M ch gan n he s one
            I red-shirted my regular senior year. By the time of my regular junior year, Rod

Martin, Clay Matthews, and Mario Celloto had been there so long, and I had not played

much. I'd been an off-guard and tackle in high school. I came in to USC at 210 pounds,

but I lifted weights and got up to 235 pounds. I benched 400 pounds and figured if I

switched to the line there was an opening at center in spring ball. I thought I'd won the

starting position to go with Gary Bethel. It was a weird year. John McKay decided to

leave. I was having a difficult time graduating so I decided to red-shirt and graduate in

my fifth year. The one year I didn't play we lost four games in 1975. I always felt Coach

McKay as a college coach; he was second to none. It didn't work out for him in the pros.

We moved tto tthe ciitty off Bellll,, whiich iis seven miilles ffrrom USC,, when II was tthrree yearrs
We moved o he c y o Be wh ch s seven m es om USC when was h ee yea s
olld.. II rrootted fforr tthe Trrojjans,, ffolllowiing McKay and such.. When tthey offfferred me a
o d oo ed o he T o ans o ow ng McKay and such When hey o e ed me a
schollarrshiip II was "doomed" tto go ttherre outt off Bellll Hiigh Schooll.. II onlly pllayed one
scho a sh p was "doomed" o go he e ou o Be H gh Schoo on y p ayed one
compllette yearr off hiigh schooll ballll butt diidn'tt have any ffulll rriides anywherre ellse..
comp e e yea o h gh schoo ba bu d dn' have any u des anywhe e e se
         Maybe because off tthe ffactt tthatt II neverr sttarrtted butt worrked harrd and lliifftted weiightts,,
          Maybe because o he ac ha neve s a ed bu wo ked ha d and ed we gh s

and ttrriied harrd,, tthey ttrravelled me.. We had champiionshiip tteams butt iitt had nott dawned on
and ed ha d hey ave ed me We had champ onsh p eams bu had no dawned on

me how llucky II was llucky tto be a parrtt off iitt.. IItt was llatterr tthe iidea II pllayed iin ffourr Rose
me how ucky was ucky o be a pa o                            was a e he dea p ayed n ou Rose

Bowlls,, iitt was kiind off lliike Rudy.. II had a grreatt sprriing ballll everry yearr and allways tthoughtt
Bow s was k nd o ke Rudy had a g ea sp ng ba eve y yea and a ways hough

II'd be a sttarrtterr,, butt II was allways a back up when tthey'd brriing iin guys ahead off me.. II allso
   'd be a s a e bu was a ways a back up when hey'd b ng n guys ahead o me a so

bustted my lleg iin hiigh schooll.. II coulldn'tt rrun ffastterr tthan 4..9 whiille Marrttiin was att 4..5 orr 4..6..
bus ed my eg n h gh schoo cou dn' un as e han 4 9 wh e Ma n was a 4 5 o 4 6

Befforre tthatt James Siims was aboutt as ffastt.. They alll wentt prro.. Battman Woods,, Charrlles
Be o e ha James S ms was abou as as They a wen p o Ba man Woods Cha es

Antthony,, Dalle Miittchellll,, Ray Rodrriiguez;; alll off tthem pllayed ahead off me.. McKay woulld
An hony Da e M che Ray Rod guez a o hem p ayed ahead o me McKay wou d

llett me iin fforr ffourr orr ffiive pllays.. II see tthiis wiitth Coach Carrrrolll.. He'lll pllay guys,, butt tthey
  e me n o ou o ve p ays see h s w h Coach Ca o He' p ay guys bu hey

have so much speed now tthey''rre iincrrediiblle..
have so much speed now hey e nc ed b e

 I looked at it this way, the weirdest thing I felt was, there were 100 players on the roster.
 Then they increased to 125, which was five classes of 25 apiece, but only 50 guys
 traveled! By my third year, halfway through the season . . . I traveled as a freshman and
 the next year they increased to 75 teammates who never get on the bus. I was not a starter
 but the coaches were sensitive to that. They'd spend most of their time with the starters,
 developing personal relations with starters. The special teams guys were there because
 we were good, but leaving others behind is odd, those are your friends, and nobody's just
 there for a scholarship. They'd resign themselves to the fact that "I won't play." You
 enjoy it but I always worked hard and studied the playbook, so McKay or Robinson put
 me on the bus because I served a vital function.
 One year we were national champions in baseball, football, track, maybe swimming and
 tennis, and if we'd been a country we'd have been among the medals leaders at the
 Montreal Olympics. We had the best college athletes from everywhere. More often than
 not, I'd have gone someplace else where I'd play, but would I have played with Clay
 Matthews, who played 13 years in pro football? Our biggest guy was Pete Adams at 250
 in 1972. Bill Bain was 300. Marvin Powell was close 300. They all went from normal
 humans to giants, and now the players are humongous.
On my ffiirrstt day off prracttiice,, Charrlles "Trree" Young handed me a bag.. He was 6--5,, 250 and
 On my s day o p ac ce Cha es "T ee" Young handed me a bag He was 6 5 250 and
rrevolluttiioniized tthe ttiightt end posiittiion wiitth hiis speed and skiillls.. He was tthe ffiirrstt guy who
  evo u on zed he gh end pos on w h h s speed and sk s He was he s guy who
sttarrtted me lliiffttiing..
 s a ed me              ng
IIn 1976 tthe tteam llostt tto Miissourrii biig iin tthe season openerr.. We werre jjustt as good as tthe
  n 1976 he eam os o M ssou b g n he season opene We we e us as good as he
1972 tteam orr any off tthe tthrree ottherr nattiionall ttiittlle tteams McKay coached.. Underr McKay,,
 1972 eam o any o he h ee o he na ona                           e eams McKay coached Unde McKay
tthey''d allways send us away fforr a week tto gett setttlled wiitth ourr aparrttmentts,, rregiisttrrattiion and
  hey d a ways send us away o a week o ge se ed w h ou apa men s eg s a on and
tthe lliike.. John Robiinson keptt us allll ttogettherr and ttherre was a llott off ttallk.. IItt gott outt off
  he ke John Rob nson kep us a oge he and he e was a o o a k go ou o
conttrroll.. We saiid we'd tthiis,, and we'd do tthatt,, and we belliieved ourr hype and llostt..
 con o We sa d we'd h s and we'd do ha and we be eved ou hype and os
Afftterr grraduattiion,, my lliiffe ttook some rreallly harrd tturrns.. My llefftt lleg was amputtatted and II
 A e g adua on my e ook some ea y ha d u ns My e eg was ampu a ed and
had ttwo hearrtt attttacks.. Bettween 1999 and 2004 II had 22 surrgerriies tthatt costt miilllliions off
 had wo hea a acks Be ween 1999 and 2004 had 22 su ge es ha cos m ons o
dollllarrs.. IIn tthe ffiirrstt pllace,, II was rrelliigiious and my ffaiitth iin tthe Lorrd Jesus Chrriistt guiided me..
 do a s n he s p ace was e g ous and my a h n he Lo d Jesus Ch s gu ded me
IIn tthe second pllace was USC.. II tthoughtt aboutt how tthey say,, "Fiightt On!!" No mattterr tthe
  n he second p ace was USC hough abou how hey say "F gh On " No ma e he
ciirrcumsttances and odds,, II "ffoughtt on!!"
 c cums ances and odds " ough on "
            I have a stainless steel rod in me. I have blood clots, but all of it was number three

on my of list experiences. It wasn't just my football ability, but through USC I learned the

ability to think that things will get better. I had 15 surgeries on top of each other, but

somehow USC helps you through it. I can't explain it except it's real.

          It's kind of strange, when I was child I had a fever that went away but I always

had shortness of breath. I couldn't run long distances but never told anybody about it. I

attributed it to the to air pollution in L.A. We moved to Colorado when I was 39 to be in

the high altitude, but the blood clot started in my heart. They determined I had Kawasaki

syndrome, which is when the arteries and rheumatic fever are a danger, the arteries clog,

and I had 15 surgeries and spent six months in the hospital. We had to leave Colorado

because the altitude was too high, so we moved to Oklahoma. The reason was my heart

disease. I had seven surgeries and at one time I was dead three minutes during open-heart

surgery. They shocked me 25 times. I had died but I did what we say: Fight On! It took a

year to recover from all these surgeries. I had time to reflect on the time I spent at USC

and it seemed important, but I'm not sure why.

I believe in Christ. He's number one. I also think back to what happened when they asked
my wife to come in the room, and she looks at me kind of strange, and she says, "Don't
forget you’re a Trojan!"


Wiinner off tthe 1976 Howard Jones//Foottballll Allumnii Cllub award ffor tthe seniior wiitth
W nner o he 1976 Howard Jones Foo ba A umn C ub award or he sen or w h

tthe hiighestt grape poiintt average,, Gene Lawryk may welll holld tthe uniique diisttiincttiion
  he h ghes grape po n average Gene Lawryk may we ho d he un que d s nc on

off beiing tthe onlly man tto ever pllay iin ffour Rose Bowll games.. Never a sttartter,, he
o be ng he on y man o ever p ay n our Rose Bow games Never a s ar er he
more offtten tthan nott diid nott pllay enough miinuttes tto lletttter,, butt as a member off tthe
more o en han no d d no p ay enough m nu es o e er bu as a member o he

speciiall tteams perfformed iin tthe 1973 ((beatt Ohiio Sttatte)),, 1974 ((llostt tto Ohiio Sttatte)),,
spec a eams per ormed n he 1973 bea Oh o S a e 1974 os o Oh o S a e

1975 ((beatt Ohiio Sttatte)) and 1977 ((beatt Miichiigan)) Rose Bowll games.. He red--shiirtted
1975 bea Oh o S a e and 1977 bea M ch gan Rose Bow games He red sh r ed

as a ffourtth--year seniior iin 1975..
as a our h year sen or n 1975



                                             ROD MARTIN
                                             ROD MARTIN

Outtsiide Liinebacker
Ou s de L nebacker
1975 -- 1976
1975 1976


II gott tto meett John McKay tthrrough Wiillliie Brrown.. II wentt tto L..A.. Ciitty Collllege,, wherre II
   go o mee John McKay h ough W e B own wen o L A C y Co ege whe e
was an Allll--Amerriican and tthe Deffensiive Pllayerr off tthe Yearr.. Viince Evans was ourr
 was an A Ame can and he De ens ve P aye o he Yea V nce Evans was ou
quarrtterrback,, and he was tthe Offffensiive Pllayerr off tthe Yearr.. We ttiied iin tthe Pottatto Bowll..
 qua e back and he was he O ens ve P aye o he Yea We ed n he Po a o Bow
Evans wentt wiitth me tto USC,, and lliike me he llatterr pllayed fforr tthe Raiiderrs..
 Evans wen w h me o USC and ke me he a e p ayed o he Ra de s
            So,, II was hiighlly rrecrruiitted and wantted tto sttay on tthe Westt Coastt.. San Diiego Sttatte,,
             So was h gh y ec u ed and wan ed o s ay on he Wes Coas San D ego S a e
UCLA,, and USC wentt afftterr me.. Brrown came by tto rrecrruiitt me quiitte a ffew ttiimes,, butt II'd
 UCLA and USC wen a e me B own came by o ec u me qu e a ew mes bu 'd
ttolld Diick Verrmeiill II''d go tto UCLA.. II lloved Brruiin baskettballll,, so II was lleaniing ttherre..
  o d D ck Ve me d go o UCLA oved B u n baske ba so was ean ng he e
Thrrough baskettballll,, Verrmeiill,, who was iin hiis ffiirrstt yearr ttakiing overr,, had me nearrlly
 Th ough baske ba Ve me who was n h s s yea ak ng ove had me nea y
commiitttted tto UCLA..
 comm ed o UCLA
            Thatt iis,, unttiill McKay came tto tthe house wherre II lliived iin L..A.. He was on hiis way
             Tha s un McKay came o he house whe e ved n L A He was on h s way
outt off ttown,, and Coach Brrown sett iitt up.. He was humblle and niice tto my mom,, and he had
 ou o own and Coach B own se up He was humb e and n ce o my mom and he had
tthe giifftt off gab tthatt coulld hypnottiize me.. He was honestt and down tto Earrtth.. He ttolld me
  he g o gab ha cou d hypno ze me He was hones and down o Ea h He o d me
whatt USC had tto offfferr.. Whatt sttuck iin my miind and changed my deciisiion,, II don'tt know iiff
 wha USC had o o e Wha s uck n my m nd and changed my dec s on don' know
he knew aboutt my baskettballl,, butt he saiid,, "IIff you'rre a grreatt baskettballl pllayerr,, you shoulld
 he knew abou my baske ba bu he sa d " you' e a g ea baske ba p aye you shou d
go tto UCLA,, butt you are a grreatt ffoottballl pllayerr,, so tthen you shoulld go wherre tthe grreatt
 go o UCLA bu you are a g ea oo ba p aye so hen you shou d go whe e he g ea
pllayerrs arre,, and tthatt's USC.."
 p aye s a e and ha 's USC "
             Vermeil tried to change my mind. Vermeil gets emotional, and the man starts
 crying in my mom's living room. I had to ask my mom to ask Vermeil to please leave.
             At USC I was in awe about all the talent, but I loved my decision. I came in with
 another linebacker, David Lewis, and the position was opening up. When I came in, I got
 hurt against Arkansas. I bruised my knee and didn't get well fast enough. This is the 1974
 national title year. Once I got healthy, I determined the USC way, the way they played. It
 was an honor to even be red-shirted, because I was working with the guys, making 'em
 better. Guys on the scout squad could start on any team. That's a testament to their
 recruiters. It was such a great family atmosphere; guys stuck together. This came from
 McKay and Marv Goux. He was in charge of the scout squad and kept us fired up.
             Despite red-shirting, I felt like I was an intricate part of that national
 championship run. McKay would ride around on a golf cart, beeping his horn. When you
 heard that beep you knew it was McKay, and you'd perk right up. Every now and then
 McKay and his assistants would get together, and the coaches would relay this message
to the players. McKay stayed away and let his assistants do the coaching.
        The Manfred Moore story about Coach not rescinding his scholarship when he got

his girlfriend pregnant, that's the human side of McKay. I'm originally from West

Virginia, too. People there are honest, blunt and to the point. Truthful, that was Coach

McKay. If he wanted you, you knew it. If you weren't good enough, he'd tell you. He

didn't try to feed you a story, and he earned your respect.

II rrememberr ttallkiing aboutt tthatt 1970 game att Allabama grrowiing up.. II wasn'tt iintto ffoottballl,, II
     emembe a k ng abou ha 1970 game a A abama g ow ng up wasn' n o oo ba
was mosttlly iintto baskettballl,, butt we alll knew aboutt Sam Cunniingham and whatt he diid.. He
 was mos y n o baske ba bu we a knew abou Sam Cunn ngham and wha he d d He
had a grreatt game,, butt II emphasiize nott tto ttake away ffrrom tthe grreatt success off Marrttiin
 had a g ea game bu emphas ze no o ake away om he g ea success o Ma n
Luttherr Kiing.. The ciiviill rriightts lleaderrs opened Bearr Brryantt's eyes,, he wantts tto wiin,, he has
 Lu he K ng The c v gh s eade s opened Bea B yan 's eyes he wan s o w n he has
tto brriing iin tthe bestt ttallentt,, and he needed bllacks.. Brryantt sttood up and was a man aboutt iitt..
  o b ng n he bes a en and he needed b acks B yan s ood up and was a man abou
He lloved Allabama ffoottballll,, and diidn'tt carre who diidn'tt lliike iitt.. Was he iin a posiittiion tto do
 He oved A abama oo ba and d dn' ca e who d dn' ke Was he n a pos on o do
tthatt,, ttwo orr tthrree yearrs befforre? II don'tt tthiink iitt was tthe rriightt ttiime tto do iitt yett..
  ha wo o h ee yea s be o e? don' h nk was he gh me o do ye


Rod Marttiin was an allll--confference lliinebacker on tthe 1976 tteam tthatt beatt Miichiigan
Rod Mar n was an a con erence nebacker on he 1976 eam ha bea M ch gan

iin tthe Rose Bowll.. Afftter sttarriing ffor botth John McKay and John Robiinson,, Marttiin
  n he Rose Bow A er s arr ng or bo h John McKay and John Rob nson Mar n

wentt on tto a greatt career wiitth tthe Oaklland and Los Angelles Raiiders ffrom 1977--88..
wen on o a grea career w h he Oak and and Los Ange es Ra ders rom 1977 88

He was tthe sttar off Oaklland''s 1981 Super Bowll viicttory over Phiilladellphiia,, and a key
He was he s ar o Oak and s 1981 Super Bow v c ory over Ph ade ph a and a key

member ((allong wiitth Trojjan Marcus Alllen)) off tthe 1983 worlld champiion Raiiders..
member a ong w h Tro an Marcus A en o he 1983 wor d champ on Ra ders

Marttiin was sellectted tto ttwo Pro Bowlls and was Allll--Pro iin 1981,, 1982,, 1983 and 1984..
Mar n was se ec ed o wo Pro Bow s and was A Pro n 1981 1982 1983 and 1984

He now works att USC..
He now works a USC



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Offffensiive Tacklle
O ens ve Tack e
1976 -- 1978
1976 1978


II am ffrrom Sarrattoga,, nearr San Jose,, so II norrmallly woulld have gone tto Sttanfforrd orr Call.. II
   am om Sa a oga nea San Jose so no ma y wou d have gone o S an o d o Ca

was tthe Parade magaziine Offffensiive Liineman off Yearr.. The rreason II chose USC,, when iitt
was he Parade magaz ne O ens ve L neman o Yea The eason chose USC when
came down tto iitt,, was tthrree tthiings::
came down o was h ee h ngs



           1.                                                    The facilities were state of the art.

                Heritage Hall had been built, and it was indicative of the commitment to

                sports at that point.

The weather was incredible.
The girls were gorgeous.


        I was planning to go to Stanford, but their facilities were horrific. The place where

they put me up for the night was slummy. I said this is not the place I want to be. I saw

the USC campus, and an ex-player named Booker Brown was there with a big new

Mercedes. I said, "That's fantastic." Weather, girls and facilities. I had no clue about

USC. A kid at my high school talked about them but I never paid attention, but Marv

Goux recruited me and I was so impressed.

        John Robinson was a charismatic visionary similar to Pete Carroll. He understood
that the name of the game was fun. John McKay was all business, it was like a pro camp.
He was a brilliant man, but Robinson had that Pete Carroll persona; they both bring
enthusiasm and excitement to the game.
        Frank Jordan was our place-kicker in 1978. There was a picture of us hugging

each other in the L.A. Times after his famous field goal to beat Notre Dame, 27-25. He'd

missed a couple. I shouldn't have done it but I looked at him and said, "If you miss this

your dead, Frank." He was a great guy. If he was a jerk you'd not be friends with him.

You don't want to hang out with kickers, but he'd be playing cards, he was very sociable,

he had a good personality and was a good friend.

         Off alll tthe games II pllayed iin,, II neverr came away lliike iitt sucked exceptt tthe Nottrre
         O a he games p ayed n neve came away ke sucked excep he No e

Dame game.. You ffelltt lliike iitt was a heavyweiightt ffiightt,, you'd gett tthe snott kiicked outt off
Dame game You e ke was a heavywe gh gh you'd ge he sno k cked ou o
you.. So Frrank's lliiniing up,, and iitt's lliike,, afftterr alll tthiis efffforrtt,, iiff tthe kiickerr miisses tthiis kiick
you So F ank's n ng up and 's ke a e a h s e o                                                he k cke m sses h s k ck

iitt's been fforr notthiing? II'm getttiing pounded,, butt afftterr he made iitt allll was fforrgiiven..
     's been o no h ng? 'm ge ng pounded bu a e he made a was o g ven

            Joe Monttana lled Nottrre Dame back agaiinstt us tthatt day.. He'd engiineerred tthe "grreen
             Joe Mon ana ed No e Dame back aga ns us ha day He'd eng nee ed he "g een
jjerrsey" viicttorry overr us a yearr earrlliierr att Soutth Bend,, butt II neverr paiid atttenttiion tto hiim.. II
  e sey" v c o y ove us a yea ea e a Sou h Bend bu neve pa d a en on o h m
pllayed agaiinstt hiim iin an allll--sttarr game iin Japan and he diid tthe same tthiing iin tthatt game,,
 p ayed aga ns h m n an a s a game n Japan and he d d he same h ng n ha game
butt on offffense you don'tt spend ttiime payiing atttenttiion tto tthe ottherr tteam's offffense.. You pay
 bu on o ense you don' spend me pay ng a en on o he o he eam's o ense You pay
attttenttiion tto tthe nextt ttiime you have tto go outt ttherre,, so II can'tt ttelll you who was on tthe
 a en on o he nex me you have o go ou he e so can' e you who was on he
ottherr siide.. II diidn'tt carre.. You'rre ffocused on yourr jjob and have no ttiime tto wattch tthe ottherr
 o he s de d dn' ca e You' e ocused on you ob and have no me o wa ch he o he
tteam..
  eam
             t was a h w nn ng he 1978 na ona champ onsh p We we e ve y exc ed o
            IIt was a tthrriilll wiinniing tthe 1978 nattiionall champiionshiip.. We werre verry exciitted tto

pllay Miichiigan iin tthe Rose Bowll.. They werre tthe ttype off tteam tthatt had exttrreme diisciiplliine..
p ay M ch gan n he Rose Bow They we e he ype o eam ha had ex eme d sc p ne

They''d allll sttep tthe same way,, tthey''d wearr ttheiirr socks tthe same way,, tthey werre lliiked a
They d a s ep he same way hey d wea he socks he same way hey we e ked a

clloned tteam.. They werre nott as physiicall as us butt tthey consiisttenttlly came back att you.. IIn
c oned eam They we e no as phys ca as us bu hey cons s en y came back a you n

tthatt game,, Charrlles Whiitte had tthe iinffamous "ffumblle.." II was siitttiing ttherre on tthe lliine,, and
  ha game Cha es Wh e had he n amous " umb e " was s ng he e on he ne and

tthe callll was fforr tthe ballll tto go overr tthe guarrd//centterr,, nott overr me.. II had tto make surre off
  he ca was o he ba o go ove he gua d cen e no ove me had o make su e o

my guy II had rresponsiibiilliitty tto coverr,, tthe lliinebackerr,, and II ffiigurred II'd rrun tto wherre
my guy had espons b y o cove he nebacke and gu ed 'd un o whe e

Charrlles was and tthe rrestt off my lliiffe II'd be on TV fforr rrepllays off hiis wiinniing Rose Bowll
Cha es was and he es o my e 'd be on TV o ep ays o h s w nn ng Rose Bow

ttouchdown.. Thatt sellffiish mottiivattiion caused me tto bllock tthe rrefferree's viisiion and nott see
  ouchdown Tha se sh mo va on caused me o b ock he e e ee's v s on and no see

tthe ffumblle.. IItt's lliike Paull Harrvey and "tthe rrestt off tthe sttorry.." II saw tthe ballll drrop lliike a rrock
  he umb e 's ke Pau Ha vey and " he es o he s o y " saw he ba d op ke a ock

and a Miichiigan guy ffelll on iitt,, and II tthoughtt,, "Thatt's tterrrriiblle.." Butt tthey callled iitt a
and a M ch gan guy e on and hough "Tha 's e b e " Bu hey ca ed a

ttouchdown.. II tthoughtt iitt was a tterrrriiblle calll.. Today iitt woulld be rreverrsed.. II bllocked tthe
  ouchdown hough was a e b e ca Today wou d be eve sed b ocked he

v ew o he e e ee and h nk ha p c u e s n he M ch gan Ha o Fame t was n he
viiew off tthe rrefferree and II tthiink tthatt piictturre iis iin tthe Miichiigan Halll off Fame.. IIt was iin tthe

L..A.. Tiimes.. II'm comiing acrross tthe back,, rready tto bllock,, butt iinsttead II sttopped iin ffrrontt off
L A T mes 'm com ng ac oss he back eady o b ock bu ns ead s opped n on o

tthe rrefferree outt off sellffiish mottiivattiion and keptt hiim ffrrom seeiing tthe ffumblle.. II calll tthatt a
  he e e ee ou o se sh mo va on and kep h m om see ng he umb e ca ha a

grreatt bllock..
g ea b ock

          I remember Anthony Davis. He had that game in 1974 when I was a freshman. I

played in that game at the end. We were getting killed and I was thinking that I'd made a
mistake coming to USC. I actually was thinking that. But McKay comes into the locker

room at the half and says, "There's no rules against blocking." Then he says, "A.D.,

they're gonna kick the ball to you, and you're gonna run it back for a touchdown and

we're gonna win this game."

        So that's what happened, that's what he did, and holy smoke, the crowd stood the
whole second half and we put on a show like none before or since: 55 points in 17
minutes. A.D. was a special, special athlete. I look at a Reggie Bush and A.D. was 100
times better than Bush. He had a great passing team but A.D. was a horse, Secretariat. In
practice you would watch the seniors run. Today you lose so many guys to the NFL,
sophomores are team leaders telling the freshmen how to run today, but that was a senior
team. I've never seen anybody do it like Anthony. If I had to have A.D. or Bush I'd pick
A.D. all day long. Bush can't go up the middle. A.D. could go to the middle. He was so
exciting to watch. You always felt safe when he was in the game, so in the 1975 Rose
Bowl against Ohio State, he got knocked out and we thought, "We're in trouble now."
        In didn't play in the '75 Rose Bowl and I was happy not. I'd watched films of Ohio
State and they were very physical, very big, really physical. The Rose Bowl far and away
does not have the same impact as the Coliseum, where the fans are on top of you, but it
was extremely exciting. I prayed not to get into that game. They had a guy who was an
animal and he would have torn me apart.
        So who was better, the 1974 or '78 national champions? The '78 team had so much
talent, and a better offensive line so I have to go with them. They were both doggone
good. I don’t know, they were both good, both very impressive, but with different players
and different strengths. It would be a great game to watch both teams play.
        I made the trip to Birmingham, Alabama in 1978, for that famous game against
Paul "Bear" Bryant and the Crimson Tide at Legion Field. We won 24-14 and that
propelled us to the national title. When you are watching film before you sit there and I
can say I was not nervous about Alabama. I didn't start because I had a knee injury. It
was bad, but Anthony Munoz, who had gotten hurt and had only played a little, he played
in that game and dominated. What struck me was there was a lot of hostility in the
environment going back there. What struck me was that the South felt like it was 20 years
behind culturally, but from a football standpoint, when you're an offensive lineman,
you're not thinking about their offense, but you're thinking about their huge, big athletes.
But my opposite was 6-3, 220 and I was 6-6, 275. I wasn't scared, but against Notre
Dame or Ohio State, Michigan; they have the big boys.
        My sophomore year was against Greg Morton, one of the best defensive players in
the nation. You're never nervous about getting hurt, but against Notre Dame you're
nervous about being hurt. Normally you'd hurt more in practice than in the games. Gary
Jeter, who was the number one pick of the Giants, the second or third overall draft
choice; he was a nightmare. USC had those type of athletes. Guys who would have been
Pro Hall of Famers had everything all worked out in their careers.
        I saw Anthony Munoz in The Right Stuff. They had to dub his voice to make it
deep, he had a squeaky voice. I was happy for him. He's one of the greatest athletes I've

ever seen. Offensive linemen are not supposed to be limber, but he was as limber as a

ballerina. Offensive linemen are not limber individuals, but I've never anybody as limber

as Munoz and he's 6-7, 280, 290 pounds. As a freshman he went against the first string.

They pitted Jeter vs. Munoz and he just buried Jeter, and the whole team was watching.

He just grabbed him and put him on his back. I thought, "Oh my God, this guy is really

special," he's handling a guy whose going to be drafted number five in the whole NFL

Draft, and he killed him. His pro career was great. He got over his injuries, and after that

he was like watching art; that athletic a guy playing that spot was beautiful.

         Charrlles Whiitte orr Antthony Daviis? Charrlliie llearrned ffrrom A..D.. They botth came outt
         Cha es Wh e o An hony Dav s? Cha e ea ned om A D They bo h came ou

off San Ferrnando Hiigh,, butt II know whatt A..D.. woulld have done had he had a grreatt lliine tto
o San Fe nando H gh bu know wha A D wou d have done had he had a g ea ne o

rrun behiind.. He diidn'tt have Munoz,, Keiitth Van Horrne,, Brrad Budde tto rrun behiind.. Charrlliie
  un beh nd He d dn' have Munoz Ke h Van Ho ne B ad Budde o un beh nd Cha e

had a superriiorr offffensiive lliine.. Van Horrne pllayed 10 yearrs and was wiitth a Superr Bowll
had a supe o o ens ve ne Van Ho ne p ayed 10 yea s and was w h a Supe Bow

champiionshiip tteam iin Chiicago.. Brrad Budde pllayed eiightt yearrs fforr tthe Chiieffs.. Patt Howellll
champ onsh p eam n Ch cago B ad Budde p ayed e gh yea s o he Ch e s Pa Howe

pllayed siix yearrs fforr tthe Fallcons.. Chrriis Footte was wiitth tthe Viikiings..
p ayed s x yea s o he Fa cons Ch s Foo e was w h he V k ngs

          Munoz came iintto tthe 1980 Rose Bowll game agaiinstt Ohiio Sttatte.. We'rre llosiing and
          Munoz came n o he 1980 Rose Bow game aga ns Oh o S a e We' e os ng and
he comes iin tto wiin tthe game.. He'd nott pllayed alll season and,, hey,, tthey jjustt rran tthe balll
he comes n o w n he game He'd no p ayed a season and hey hey us an he ba
overr hiim tto wiin.. He was one off tthe grreattestt atthllettiic offffensiive lliinemen everr tto pllay att
ove h m o w n He was one o he g ea es a h e c o ens ve nemen eve o p ay a
USC and tthe NFL,, and iiff you'rre Charrlles Whiitte you werre gonna be grreatt.. Charrlles was
USC and he NFL and you' e Cha es Wh e you we e gonna be g ea Cha es was
grreatt and he had a grreatt worrk etthiic,, butt wow,, you've gott tthose giiganttiic llegs tthatt rrun lliike
g ea and he had a g ea wo k e h c bu wow you've go hose g gan c egs ha un ke
a horrse tto rrun behiind .. .. ..
a ho se o un beh nd
          Antthony Daviis was ffun tto wattch.. He'd drriive a bllue converrttiiblle Cadiilllac on
          An hony Dav s was un o wa ch He'd d ve a b ue conve b e Cad ac on
campus and had a llott off ffun..
campus and had a o o un

Ottiis Page was iin tthe program when USC won tthe 1974 nattiionall champiionshiip,, and
O s Page was n he program when USC won he 1974 na ona champ onsh p and

was a sttarttiing lliineman and member off tthe 1978 nattiionall champiions.. Duriing hiis
was a s ar ng neman and member o he 1978 na ona champ ons Dur ng h s

career,, tthe Trojjans won tthe Rose Bowll ttwiice,, tthe Liibertty Bowll and tthe Blluebonnett
career he Tro ans won he Rose Bow w ce he L ber y Bow and he B uebonne

Bowll.. Page won tthe Daviis--Teschke award ffor mostt iinspiirattiionall Trojjan iin 1978 and
Bow Page won he Dav s Teschke award or mos nsp ra ona Tro an n 1978 and
was sellectted ffor tthe Japan Bowll.. He iis now a successffull busiinessman iin Newportt
was se ec ed or he Japan Bow He s now a success u bus nessman n Newpor

Beach,, Calliifforniia..
Beach Ca orn a


                                             PAUL MCDONALD
                                             PAUL MCDONALD

Quartterback
Quar erback
1977 -- 1979
1977 1979


II was an unttestted ffiirrstt--yearr sttarrtterr att Allabama iin 1978,, my tthiirrd yearr iin tthe prrogrram
   was an un es ed s yea s a e a A abama n 1978 my h d yea n he p og am
comiing outt off Biishop Amatt Hiigh Schooll,, whiich had prreviiouslly prroduced Adrriian Young,,
 com ng ou o B shop Ama H gh Schoo wh ch had p ev ous y p oduced Ad an Young
Patt Haden and J..K.. McKay.. We opened agaiinstt Texas Tech and sttrrugglled,, ttrraiilliing 9--0 att
 Pa Haden and J K McKay We opened aga ns Texas Tech and s ugg ed a ng 9 0 a
tthe hallff,, and we gott booed offff tthe ffiielld.. IIn tthe second hallff we pllayed welll and won,, 17--9..
  he ha and we go booed o he e d n he second ha we p ayed we and won 17 9
We rran alll overr Orregon.. II onlly tthrrew aboutt eiightt ttiimes,, so ttherre's no questtiion my ffiirrstt
 We an a ove O egon on y h ew abou e gh mes so he e's no ques on my s
rreall ttestt came att Legiion Fiielld iin ffrrontt off a hosttiille crrowd agaiinstt tthe numberr one tteam iin
  ea es came a Leg on F e d n on o a hos e c owd aga ns he numbe one eam n
tthe counttrry..
  he coun y
            We uttiilliized a llott off sttuffff wiitth me,, tthe iidea beiing fforr me tto gett tthe bestt pllay calllled
             We u zed a o o s u w h me he dea be ng o me o ge he bes p ay ca ed

as bestt we coulld.. Everry pllay orr everry ottherr pllay,, tthey diid a llott off diisguiisiing on deffense,,
as bes we cou d Eve y p ay o eve y o he p ay hey d d a o o d sgu s ng on de ense

ttrryiing tto conffuse me,, butt mostt ttiimes we gott tthe rriightt calll offff.. Charrlles Whiitte had a grreatt
    y ng o con use me bu mos mes we go he gh ca o Cha es Wh e had a g ea

game.. He domiinatted tthem,, and we surrprriised tthem wiitth ourr speed and physiicallness.. II was
game He dom na ed hem and we su p sed hem w h ou speed and phys ca ness was

ablle tto gett some key tthrrows offff.. Keviin Wiillliiams made a specttacullarr pllay fforr a
ab e o ge some key h ows o Kev n W ams made a spec acu a p ay o a

ttouchdown.. IItt miightt have been ttiipped,, butt somehow he came up wiitth iitt fforr tthe
  ouchdown m gh have been pped bu somehow he came up w h o he

ttouchdown.. II ffelltt comfforrttablle and poiised iin tthe pockett.. IIff you llook att my rrecorrd you'lll
  ouchdown e com o ab e and po sed n he pocke                               you ook a my eco d you'

see II diidn'tt do a llott off scrramblliing.. IItt was a rreallly humiid day.. II rrememberr afftterr warrm--ups
see d dn' do a o o sc amb ng was a ea y hum d day emembe a e wa m ups

jjustt beiing ttiirred and wallkiing iin tthe llockerr rroom,, and alll tthe pllayerrs werre sprrawlled outt on
  us be ng ed and wa k ng n he ocke oom and a he p aye s we e sp aw ed ou on

tthe concrrette fflloorr wiitth iice packs on ttheiirr necks.. II tthoughtt.. "We haven'tt even pllayed a
  he conc e e oo w h ce packs on he necks hough "We haven' even p ayed a

game yett and everrybody''s bushed.." IItt was 90 degrrees wiitth 90 perrcentt humiidiitty,, so iitt was
game ye and eve ybody s bushed " was 90 deg ees w h 90 pe cen hum d y so was

a ttesttamentt off ourr endurrance,, how we prracttiice and condiittiioned.. Forr some rreason II was
a es amen o ou endu ance how we p ac ce and cond oned Fo some eason was

verry callm and comfforrttablle.. Some ttiimes you gett iin a sttatte wherre you see everrytthiing
ve y ca m and com o ab e Some mes you ge n a s a e whe e you see eve y h ng

cllearrlly..
c ea y
II calllled a llott off audiiblles,, and apparrenttlly tthatt iis nott tthe norrm iin tthe SEC.. The sttadiiums arre
    ca ed a o o aud b es and appa en y ha s no he no m n he SEC The s ad ums a e
lloud and diiscourrage tthatt.. Bearr Brryantt llatterr saiid iitt was tthe bestt quarrtterrbackiing jjob he'd
   oud and d scou age ha Bea B yan a e sa d was he bes qua e back ng ob he'd
everr seen..
 eve seen
   n he as game o ha season we p ayed No e Dame a he Los Ange es Co seum t
IIn tthe llastt game off tthatt season we pllayed Nottrre Dame att tthe Los Angelles Colliiseum.. IIt
was fforr alll tthe marrblles.. The nattiionall champiionshiip was on tthe lliine.. We ttook iitt tto tthe
 was o a he ma b es The na ona champ onsh p was on he ne We ook o he
Fiighttiing IIrriish ffrrom tthe sttarrtt,, and iitt's a natturrall human emottiion tto sttarrtt ffeelliing good aboutt
 F gh ng sh om he s a and 's a na u a human emo on o s a ee ng good abou
yourrsellff when you pllay welll.. II gott offff good passes and iitt llooked lliike we gott tthiis tthiing
 you se when you p ay we                      go o good passes and ooked ke we go h s h ng
ffiigurred outt.. II knew sometthiing aboutt Joe Monttana,, butt II diidn'tt know he was tthatt good..
    gu ed ou knew some h ng abou Joe Mon ana bu d dn' know he was ha good
He'd beatten us iin tthe "grreen jjerrsey" game tthe prreviious yearr and lled tthem tto tthe nattiionall
 He'd bea en us n he "g een e sey" game he p ev ous yea and ed hem o he na ona
champiionshiip,, butt ttherre was no iindiicattiion he was tthe pllayerr he woulld become.. Att lleastt
 champ onsh p bu he e was no nd ca on he was he p aye he wou d become A eas
nott unttiill tthe second off tthe '78 USC--Nottrre Dame game..
 no un he second o he '78 USC No e Dame game
 In the first half he was really lousy, missing guys by a wide margin. Most people don't
 know this, but on the second series of the game I made a poor read and should have
 thrown the ball. I got sacked by Bob Golic on a blitz. The inside linebacker rolled up on
 my ankle, and I tweaked my ankle. I hobbled off to the sideline trainer. He couldn’t
 figure out what was wrong, so we decided to tape it up
 I went out for the next series after they punted. I hit Kevin Williams for 35 or 40 yards.
 We did a good job on offense and I left the field feeling fine, no problem, but later in the
 first half I threw a touchdown pass to Danny Garcia. Charlie had his usual great game
 and we got things going on offense, but then my ankle started to swell and I could not
 move well. By the end of the first half I could hardly walk. They take me by cart into the
 locker, but I just decided hey, wrap it up, and I run out of the tunnel for the second half.
 That's when Montana got hot. We thought we were okay but we couldn't put points up
 and by the end of the game, Montana led them down to score a touchdown. They didn't
 convert the two-point conversion, thank goodness, so they led, 25-24.
 So there's 45 seconds left and I grab the offense and said, "Hey guys. I'm really not happy
 at all. We should be winning." We dominated most of the game but let a big lead get
 away. My ankle's killing me but I say, "We don’t need to go that far, Jordan's gonna kick
 a field goal to win it. Just keep them off me so there's no pressure."
 I hit Vic Rakhshani in the flat but he didn't get out of bounds. On the next play we had
 the ball on the short half of the field. I roll to the short side but everybody's covered, so I
 retreated and threw the ball away to avoid having to use the time-out, which we'll need
 for the field goal. I'd thrown the football, of course, but most Notre Dame fans think I
 fumbled. Jeff Weston grabbed me and spun me around. The ball hit a Notre Dame player
 in the side hip pad and ricocheted back, so they all thought it was a fumble. They think
 the game's over and start spilling on the field, but the referee, thank God, ruled - correctly
 - that it was an incomplete pass. Most of my friends and players still think it was a
 fumble.
 It happened so fast, and I had so many guys around me, that most people with the naked
 eye thought that, but they made the right call. You can see it on The History of USC
 Football DVD. You can slow it down, go frame by frame, and freeze frame the play, and
 it proves it was a forward pass.
 I called for Williams and Calvin Sweeney on the same side. Williams went short motion
 off the snap, and before he gets tackled short, crosses to the right to keep the linebacker
 shallow. Sweeney goes on a deep cross past the linebacker. The other guy runs a post to
 keep the safety deep. The safety was Joe Restic, he was the free safety. The last thing he
 wants is a post pattern where he gets beat deep, so he was very deep. Calvin did a great
 job and makes the catch on the side and runs the ball up-field before we call a time-out.
 We ran White on the field for an off-tackle. He powers seven yards to put the ball at the
 25, thank goodness, and that put us in great position.
 F ank Jo dan k cked w nn ng he w nn ng e d goa t was he bes game eve p ayed as
Frrank Jorrdan kiicked wiinniing tthe wiinniing ffiielld goall.. IIt was tthe bestt game II everr pllayed as
a Trrojjan.. The emottiionall rrollllerr coastt bettween ttwo grreatt tteams and ttrradiittiions;; we tthoughtt
 a T o an The emo ona o e coas be ween wo g ea eams and ad ons we hough
we had tthe game won and tthey tthoughtt tthey had iitt won .. .. ..
 we had he game won and hey hough hey had won
We come back and Frrank kiicks tthe balll tthrrough.. Frrank had nerrves off stteell.. John
 We come back and F ank k cks he ba h ough F ank had ne ves o s ee John
Robiinson allso had a callm qualliitty,, he rreallly diid.. He'd crrack jjokes on tthe siidelliine,, he's
 Rob nson a so had a ca m qua y he ea y d d He'd c ack okes on he s de ne he's
llaughiing and makes iitt easy fforr you tto have ffun.. II say tto hiim,, "IItt's easy fforr you tto llaugh,, II
  augh ng and makes easy o you o have un say o h m " 's easy o you o augh
gottta go outt ttherre.." He surrrrounded hiimsellff wiitth good peoplle and was nott upttiightt..
 go a go ou he e " He su ounded h mse w h good peop e and was no up gh
Att LSU iin 1970 we werre numberr one iin tthe counttrry goiing iin.. Louiisiiana Sttatte had 78,,000
 A LSU n 1970 we we e numbe one n he coun y go ng n Lou s ana S a e had 78 000
peoplle and tthey had a good tteam.. The mostt viiviid memorriies II have werre ffllyiing iin on
 peop e and hey had a good eam The mos v v d memo es have we e y ng n on
Thurrsday niightt,, checkiing iintto tthe hottell,, and ttakiing tthe wallk--tthrrough on Frriiday niightt att
 Thu sday n gh check ng n o he ho e and ak ng he wa k h ough on F day n gh a
tthe sttadiium.. We needed an escorrtt tto gett iintto tthe doggone sttadiium tthe day beffore tthe
  he s ad um We needed an esco o ge n o he doggone s ad um he day be ore he
game.. Peoplle werre hoottiin'' and hollllerriin',, yellliing and scrreamiing,, and tthiis iis jjustt tthe
 game Peop e we e hoo n and ho e n' ye ng and sc eam ng and h s s us he
wallk--tthrrough.. II'm tthiinkiing,, "These peoplle arre rreallly serriious aboutt ffoottballll.." Thatt niightt II
 wa k h ough 'm h nk ng "These peop e a e ea y se ous abou oo ba " Tha n gh
ttolld Jack Warrd,, ourr head ttrraiinerr,, tto giive me sometthiing so II coulld slleep.. He giives me hallff
  o d Jack Wa d ou head a ne o g ve me some h ng so cou d s eep He g ves me ha
a slleepiing piillll and a musclle rrellaxerr.. IIn tthe morrniing II was wiiped outt and II diidn'tt wake up
 a s eep ng p and a musc e e axe n he mo n ng was w ped ou and d dn' wake up
unttiill tthe second quarrtterr..
 un he second qua e
 I remember the Tiger outside the locker room was roaring. A lot of people were nervous.
 It was the loudest crowd I ever played in, ever. I've played in the NFL, in domed
 stadiums; the Metrodome, the Kingdome, the Astrodome, the Superdome. It was louder
 than any of them. All those people come out early and party all day, and they're out of
 control by the nighttime. We got off to a sluggish start and they had an early lead. They
 had the lead until the end of the game.
 We kicked a field goal early in the game. It was one of those things where what we did
 was audibilize quite a bit. It was "check with me." I didn't decide until I was at the line of
 scrimmage, based on the defense they showed. I remember it was so loud that Keith Van
 Horne, he had to turn and read my lips. It was hard to fire out on the defensive end when
 you're looking at the sidelines and then at the quarterback. That was difficult. I could kind
 of hear myself in the middle of the field, but inside the 20s you could not hear anything
 and we got called for penalties; offsides, illegal procedures. It was hard to get a rhythm.
 They were pretty good at plugging up our running game up and stopping our passing
 game
 We finally scored a touchdown when Charles White went "22-blast" over the top in
 classic White fashion, just as we've seen so many times. We came back in the fourth
 quarter. We're driving at the end of the game and needed only a field goal. We're down
 12-10, but we want a touchdown if we could. On third down we had got a face mask
 penalty in our favor when a defensive lineman for LSU grabbed my mask, and that was
 amazing to me. An SEC crew threw a flag!
 Speaking of the referees, on the first play of the game I knew it would be a long game.
 There was a new NCAA rule where if the crowd's too loud and you could not call
 cadence, you could look back at the official and he could tell you to go back and huddle
 up. They'd warn the crowd and there'd be a five-yard penalty on the defense.
 On the first play the crowd was unbelievably loud so I turn back and look at the ref. He
 put his hands in the air and he points at me adamantly; run the play, so I forget that rule.
 In the SEC that rule doesn’t exist. But in the end I got a favorable call and I was shocked.
 I threw a pass to Kevin Williams in the flat to win the game, 17-12.
 I don’t recall any racial animosity from the LSU fans, but it would not shock me at all
 given the nature of the game itself, the scope of the game and the fact you have all these
 80,000 crazies. I'd not be surprised if a lot of that went on, but I didn’t hear it. I don't
 recall.
IIn 1979 we wentt unbeatten and deffeatted Ohiio Sttatte,, 17--16 iin tthe Rose Bowll.. II diidn'tt
   n 1979 we wen unbea en and de ea ed Oh o S a e 17 16 n he Rose Bow                                          d dn'
rrealliize att tthe ttiime tthatt Pette Carrrrollll was ttheiirr secondarry coach,, butt II can say tthiis:: iitt was
   ea ze a he me ha Pe e Ca o was he seconda y coach bu can say h s was
tthe bestt deffense II everr pllayed agaiinstt iin colllege.. They werre verry welll coached and
  he bes de ense eve p ayed aga ns n co ege They we e ve y we coached and
showed a varriietty off diifffferrentt coverrages;; niickell ffiives,, tthe deffensiive backs werre onlly iin
 showed a va e y o d e en cove ages n cke ves he de ens ve backs we e on y n
tthe ffllow,, iitt was tthe bestt one II had tto fface iin colllege.. II tthoughtt ffrranklly,, llett''s don'tt scrrew
  he ow was he bes one had o ace n co ege hough ank y e s don' sc ew
arround,, llett's sttay on tthe grround,, and Whiitte had a cllassiic game.. II pllayed wellll.. II made
 a ound e 's s ay on he g ound and Wh e had a c ass c game p ayed we                                         made
some good tthrrows and some good deciisiions.. II had one piick and one ttouchdown offff an
 some good h ows and some good dec s ons had one p ck and one ouchdown o an
audiiblle tto Keviin Wiilllliiams,, butt ttherre werre no easy tthrrows.. Att tthe end off tthe ffiirrstt serriies
 aud b e o Kev n W ams bu he e we e no easy h ows A he end o he s se es
we werre nott doiing grreatt tthrrowiing tthe ffoottballl fforr a varriietty off rreasons.. Therre was
 we we e no do ng g ea h ow ng he oo ba o a va e y o easons The e was
miiscommuniicattiions bettween quarrtterrback--rreceiiverr,, so we saiid,, "Hey,, llett's go tto cllassiic
 m scommun ca ons be ween qua e back ece ve so we sa d "Hey e 's go o c ass c
USC ffoottballll,," domiinatte and wearr 'em down,, sttop scrrewiing arround.. We had tthe bestt
 USC oo ba " dom na e and wea 'em down s op sc ew ng a ound We had he bes
offffensiive lliine iin collllege ffoottballl,, and we jjustt rran pllays on everry pllay.. We deciided whiich
 o ens ve ne n co ege oo ba and we us an p ays on eve y p ay We dec ded wh ch
guy tto go tto,, and tthatt was Whiitte rrunniing behiind Antthony Munoz.. He was domiinantt,,
 guy o go o and ha was Wh e unn ng beh nd An hony Munoz He was dom nan
unbelliievablle.. Alll tthe lliinemen werre on ttheiirr guy,, butt "Munz" desttrroyed hiis guy..
 unbe evab e A he nemen we e on he guy bu "Munz" des oyed h s guy
Ourr tteam has allways been poiised.. Those siix seniiorrs on tthatt tteam saiid ttherre was no need
 Ou eam has a ways been po sed Those s x sen o s on ha eam sa d he e was no need
fforr surrprriises.. We werren'tt new tto each ottherr.. IItt was,, jjustt go outt and executte.. The huddlle
   o su p ses We we en' new o each o he                            was us go ou and execu e The hudd e
was callm,, matttterr off ffactt.. We had biig ttiime pllayerrs..
 was ca m ma e o ac We had b g me p aye s
Carrrrollll's ttuttellage off Ohiio Sttatte,, we tthoughtt,, "Those guys arre good.." Go back and llook att
 Ca o 's u e age o Oh o S a e we hough "Those guys a e good " Go back and ook a
tthatt ttape,, att tthe tthrrows tthatt have tto be made,, and ttherre's no wiide--open guy down ffiielld..
  ha ape a he h ows ha have o be made and he e's no w de open guy down e d
No one getts iin ffrrontt orr behiind you wiitth hiis deffenses.. Therre werre no giimmes..
 No one ge s n on o beh nd you w h h s de enses The e we e no g mmes                                              He and
                                                                                                                  He and
II sharred a ffunny sttorry.. When we pllayed iin tthe Rose Bowll agaiinstt Miichiigan iin 2004,, we
    sha ed a unny s o y When we p ayed n he Rose Bow aga ns M ch gan n 2004 we
ttallked aboutt iitt once on tthe rradiio and he getts sensiittiive.. IIn Carrson Pallmerr's seniiorr yearr
  a ked abou once on he ad o and he ge s sens ve n Ca son Pa me 's sen o yea
USC averraged 6..5 yarrds a pllay.. Thatt ttrrend conttiinued and woulld be a rrecorrd fforr USC
 USC ave aged 6 5 ya ds a p ay Tha end con nued and wou d be a eco d o USC
ffoottballll.. The llastt tteam tthatt averraged tthatt many yarrds was tthe 1979 Trrojjans att 6..3.. We'rre
   oo ba The as eam ha ave aged ha many ya ds was he 1979 T o ans a 6 3 We' e
iin tthe Rose Bowll and he says,, "Yeah,, yeah,, how'd you lliike tto pllay us now?" He's ttallkiing
  n he Rose Bow and he says "Yeah yeah how'd you ke o p ay us now?" He's a k ng
aboutt ourr offffense vs.. ttheiirr deffense..
 abou ou o ense vs he de ense
An amaziing sttorry was when tthe tteam getts tto tthe Rose Bowll iin Mattt Leiinarrtt's sophomorre
 An amaz ng s o y was when he eam ge s o he Rose Bow n Ma Le na 's sophomo e
yearr,, he wallks outt earrlly and II'm on tthe ffiielld crruiisiing arround.. II say,, "Hey Pette.." He's on
 yea he wa ks ou ea y and 'm on he e d c u s ng a ound say "Hey Pe e " He's on
tthe ffiielld,, he's kiind off rrunniing pass patttterrns,, and whatt he says was,, "Paull,, iitt was lliike tthiis.."
  he e d he's k nd o unn ng pass pa e ns and wha he says was "Pau                                         was ke h s "
He says,, "II neverr shoulld have calllled tthatt blliittz.." He was ttallkiing aboutt a pllay ffrrom ourr
 He says " neve shou d have ca ed ha b z " He was a k ng abou a p ay om ou
game agaiinstt Ohiio Sttatte,, and he's ttallkiing aboutt a pllay tthatt happened 25 yearrs befforre..
 game aga ns Oh o S a e and he's a k ng abou a p ay ha happened 25 yea s be o e
Thatt's how lloose he iis.. He has tthiis grreatt memorry.. We ttallked aboutt tthatt,, my audiiblles
 Tha 's how oose he s He has h s g ea memo y We a ked abou ha my aud b es
agaiinstt hiis maxiimum prrottecttiion..
 aga ns h s max mum p o ec on
Then ttherre's Marrv Goux.. Marrv was amaziing.. He was Trrojjan ffoottballl and was tthe rreall
 Then he e's Ma v Goux Ma v was amaz ng He was T o an oo ba and was he ea
keeperr off tthe ffllame,, especiialllly when we'd go tto Soutth Bend..
 keepe o he ame espec a y when we'd go o Sou h Bend


One off tthe greatt llegends and ffan ffavoriittes off Troy,, Paull McDonalld was a 1979
One o he grea egends and an avor es o Troy Pau McDona d was a 1979
Alll--Ameriican,, Academiic Alll--Ameriican,, reciipiientt off an NCAA postt--graduatte
A Amer can Academ c A Amer can rec p en o an NCAA pos gradua e

schollarshiip,, and was a Nattiionall Foottballl Foundattiion schollar atthllette.. Paull lled USC
scho arsh p and was a Na ona Foo ba Founda on scho ar a h e e Pau ed USC

on some off tthe mostt memorablle llatte game--wiinniing driives iin schooll hiisttory,,
on some o he mos memorab e a e game w nn ng dr ves n schoo h s ory

iinclludiing viicttoriies over Nottre Dame ((1978)),, att Louiisiiana Sttatte ((1979)) and Ohiio
  nc ud ng v c or es over No re Dame 1978 a Lou s ana S a e 1979 and Oh o

Sttatte ((1980 Rose Bowll)).. He engiineered tthe viicttory att Allabama''s Legiion Fiielld ((1978)),,
S a e 1980 Rose Bow He eng neered he v c ory a A abama s Leg on F e d 1978

en routte tto tthe nattiionall champiionshiip.. McDonalld quartterbacked ttwo Rose Bowll
en rou e o he na ona champ onsh p McDona d quar erbacked wo Rose Bow

champiions,, was siixtth iin tthe 1979 Heiisman ballllottiing,, was alll--confference,, tteam MVP,,
champ ons was s x h n he 1979 He sman ba o ng was a con erence eam MVP

and pllayed iin tthe Hulla Bowll.. He was tthe Cllevelland Browns'' sttarttiing quartterback
and p ayed n he Hu a Bow He was he C eve and Browns s ar ng quar erback

beffore pllayiing ffor Dalllas,, and was iin tthe NFL ffrom 1980--87.. Hiis son,, Miichaell,,
be ore p ay ng or Da as and was n he NFL rom 1980 87 H s son M chae

pllayed quartterback ffor tthe Trojjans.. An iinvesttmentt banker,, he iis allso USC''s radiio
p ayed quar erback or he Tro ans An nves men banker he s a so USC s rad o

anallystt allongsiide Pette Arbogastt on ffoottballl broadcastts..
ana ys a ongs de Pe e Arbogas on oo ba broadcas s



THE HOUDIINII OF BOVARD
THE HOUD N OF BOVARD

Excerptt ffrom Grreatt Collllege Baseballl Coaches,, 2000
Excerp rom G ea Co ege Baseba Coaches 2000



" . . . But the greatest farm club in the history of the Major Leagues . . . and the most

consistent supplier of Major League talent the past 10 years is a franchise maintained at

no cost to baseball. It finds and signs its own prospects, suits them up, develops them,

refines them, weeds them out - and then turns them over to the big leagues fully polished

and ready for the World Series.

        "The University of Southern California baseball team is to the Majors what the

Mesabi range is to steel or the forest is to Weyerhaeuser - a seemingly limitless supply of

basic ore or timber.
" . . . Rod Dedeaux went to bat only four times in the big leagues. Nevertheless he
probably should go to the Hall of Fame as a man who has done as much for the great
game in his own way as Babe Ruth."


- Jim Murray, legendary syndicated columnist

Los Angeles Times, 1976



The Hall of Fame!

Jim Murray said it 24 years ago, but now, 14 years after retiring as USC's coach, Rod
Dedeaux should be nominated for his rightful place in Cooperstown.
      He is to amateur baseball what John Wooden is to basketball, or Bill Gates to

computers.

An institution. An icon. Larger than life!
To those who have never met him, he is a towering figure worthy of the greatest respect
that can be accorded a baseball man.
To those lucky enough to have known him, especially to have played for him, Rod
Dedeaux evokes just as much respect, but it comes along with laughter. He smiles. He
jokes. He is a gregarious prankster who still likes to have a good time.
He is still, as current USC baseball coach Mike Gillespie says, "The sharpest tack in the
box."
Big-time college baseball has changed over the years, and now it is a high-stakes
endeavor, filled with alumni pressure to win-it-all-now. Top players use their collegiate
experiences as introductions to agents like Scott Boras, who get the best of the best of
them multi-million dollar bonuses . . . at the expense of their innocence.
Rod Dedeaux coached some of the greatest baseball stars of the 20th Century, yet his
program always felt more like a family than a baseball factory.
Towards the end, critics said that, like his contemporary, Ronald Reagan, age was
working against him, he no longer had the edge to swim in shark infested waters.
Today, like Reagan, time has smoothed the rough edges of criticism, and he remains a
highly beloved figure, an elder statesmen of the college game.
Age notwithstanding, he still remains the sharpest tack in the box.
"He has to be one of the smartest guys I know," says former Trojan lefty Bill "Spaceman"
Lee. "He never looked like a ballplayer, but he seemed to have eyes in the back of his
head. As the game wore on, he knew everything about every player out there. He
anticipated situations better than any manager I ever played for. On top of that, this is a
guy who, in his spare time, built a trucking empire and became one of the most successful
businessmen in this country. How can you not admire somebody like that?"
In his spare time. It is true. Dedeaux built Dart Transportation into the top transportation
company in the United States. He did it all working part-time, giving of himself to his
alma maters' baseball program in the afternoons.
Hard-worker, to be sure. He must have enjoyed having two incomes, right?
Not so fast. Dedeaux became a multi-millionaire in the trucking industry, but his salary
coaching at USC?
$1 a year.
Talk about "for the love of the game." For 45 years, he devoted himself to Trojan
baseball for free. Anybody who has ever been involved in college sports can testify what
sort of a commitment this is: recruiting, planning, organization, practicing, strategizing,
the late nights, early mornings, long days, the travel, often with frustration and
disappointment dogging at your heels.
While Dedeaux is the man most responsible for turning Southern Cal into the top college
powerhouse in the nation, his legacy extends far beyond the ivy-covered University Park
campus in south-central Los Angeles.
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Dedeaux is virtually the "father of international baseball." After World War II, he

promoted goodwill trips to Japan, where the game had been popular in the 1930s, and

exported America's National Pastime all over the Orient and into Latin America.

        He is the man behind the Olympic baseball movement, a natural progression of

his foreign adventures. He pushed and pushed until baseball was accepted in conjunction

with the 1964 Tokyo Olympics; coached a team led by Mark McGwire and Will Clark

that competed as a "demonstration sport" at the 1984 Los Angeles Games; and kept it up

until it became the full-fledged event that it is today.

He contributed to the popularity of baseball in such places as Italy, Sweden and The
Netherlands.
Dedeaux was a driving force in the collegiate summer leagues'. First, he worked with
Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor Red Boucher to create the Alaska Goldpanners and the
formation of the prestigious Alaskan Collegiate Summer League, then the Jayhawk, Cape
Cod, and many other leagues in the United States and Canada.
He helped build enthusiasm for the game in Hawaii when he brought his vaunted Trojans
to play in the islands.
It is said that Southern California, and Los Angeles in particular, is the Baseball Capitol
of the World. This is in no small way the work of coach Rod Dedeaux.
It is not mere coincidence that great dynasties in college sports happen in some places
and not others. The difference is in the coaches.
Knute Rockne turned a tiny Midwestern Catholic school into the Vatican of college
football.
With all due respect to Adolph Rupp and Kentucky, the Roman Empire of college
basketball was built upon the work of Wooden at UCLA.
Like his cross-town hoops colleague, Dedeaux was the right man in the right place,
building upon the post-war suburban growth of sunny California which has produced so
many talented players. However, other schools have enjoyed similar advantages.
It was USC under Dedeaux, not UCLA (which in theory had the same built-in attributes
of weather and population) that emerged as the dominant power.
Schools in Texas and Florida had weather and plenty of good athletes to choose from,
but languished in Dedeaux's vapor trail.
The Coach of the Century is not unlike the region of the country his school represents. He
was born of French Cajun ancestry in New Orleans, but moved with his family (like so
much of America) to California. He was an All-City infielder at fabled Hollywood High
when Betty Gable went there, a few years before Marilyn Monroe. Dedeaux started three
years at shortstop for USC, and was captain of the team his senior year, before his
short-lived career playing for Casey Stengel and the Brooklyn Dodgers.
Still, Casey became his mentor and friend, advising Rod and forging a relationship that
led to regular spring exhibition games between the Mickey Mantle Yankees that Stengel
managed in the 1950s, and Dedeaux's USC teams. Stengel, a resident of the L.A. suburb
of Glendale, was also Rod's neighbor and frequent visitor to Trojan games after his
retirement.
Rod returned to Los Angeles when his professional career failed to materialize much
beyond his four-game stint with the Daffy Dodgers, but the game was in his blood.
Sam Barry coached baseball and basketball at USC. He was a legendary disciplinarian,
and an innovator in basketball who is credited by none other than 1948 USC graduate
Tex Winter with teaching him the "triangle offense" (which Winter installed as the
cornerstone of multiple Bull and Laker World Championships). Dedeaux came on board
to assist his old coach, and in 1942 took over after the Japanese bombing of Pearl
Harbor, when Barry entered the Navy.
Dedeaux coached the Trojans' for five years, his best team going 27-7-3 in 1943, but
when the war ended Barry returned. From 1946 to 1950, Barry and Dedeaux formed a
unique relationship: co-head coaches.
In this capacity, they elevated the Trojans' above the post-war pack in college baseball at
a time when the game was taking some important steps.
"The men who returned from war to college campuses were very special," says Dedeaux.
"You hardly needed to coach or motivate them. They were tough and had guts, and are
the best generation this country has ever produced."
The first College World Series was held in Kalamazoo, Michigan and the University of
California, under coach Clint Evans, won it with an 8-7 win over a Yale team that
featured a war hero-turned-first baseman named George Herbert Walker Bush.
In 1948, USC went to Kalamazoo, and squared off against Yale and the future President,
whose Skull and Bones affiliation served him no better than it had against Cal in '47. The
Trojans' 9-2 victory gave them the first of their 12 national championships.
Barry passed away in the fall of 1950, leaving the program in Rod's capable hands. A
number of top college programs also emerged in the '50s. Bib Falk led Texas to two
National Championships, Dick Siebert's Minnesota Golden Gophers would capture the
CWS four times between 1956 and '64, and another title was won in Berkeley when
George Wolfman and Cal captured it in 1957.
         Dedeaux won his first national championship on his own in 1958 in Omaha,

which by this time had become the CWS' permanent home. His 1959 squad, which went

59-6, was considered the best team not to win a National Championship. Recruiting

scandals dogged Pacific Coast Conference schools during this era, and NCAA sanctions

against the football program came down, unfairly, on other sports. Despite being banned

from post-season play, the Trojans' still finished number one according to Collegiate

Baseball magazine.

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         Gardner was everything he had been billed as, earning All-American honors,

being named College Player of the Year, and winning 40 games, a record that has stood

at SC until now (although Rik Currier is in range of it in 2001).

Four years of steady college work took its toll by his senior year, however. Gardner's
velocity began to tail off, and when the scouts came around in the spring of 1960, the big
bonus offers were not forthcoming. Gardner signed for a modest bonus with the
Chicago White Sox and was shuffled off to the minor leagues', no longer a hot prospect.
Pitching in bush league towns that were not friendly to a Jewish kid, he became lonely
and homesick. His arm, which had started to pain him at SC, began to throb, and he
pitched ineffectively.
On top of that, this was the middle of the Cold War and the draft was in place. No
longer protected by a college exemption, Gardner found himself in the Army. One day
at Ft. Ord, near Monterey, California, he sustained further arm injury when he was
thrown from a truck during a minor traffic accident. His diminished skills receded
further, and soon he was released, his baseball career over.
For some years, Gardner tried unsuccessfully to make use of his hometown hero status,
selling insurance and failing in other business ventures. Eventually, he started to drink.
In 1974, he got drunk, drove out to the brand new Dedeaux Field on the SC campus,
made his way to the pitcher's mound and surrounded it with his All-American plaques,
trophies, awards, and college degree. He produced a gun and shot himself in the head.
A groundskeeper discovered him, thinking him a student sleeping off a hangover, until he
saw the blood and a suicide note, addressed to his mother and Rod Dedeaux.
It read, "This is what I think of your college degree."
In the years following that incident, Bruce Gardner became a taboo subject around
Dedeaux.
One of Gardner's teammates fared better, however. Ron Fairly came to USC from Long
Beach, California and, after making All-America, went on to an All-Star career with the
Los Angeles Dodgers, among other teams in a long, distinguished career.
In 1963, Dedeaux' Trojans' won their third National Championship. A journeyman
outfielder on that team was a young man who had gone to Hawthorne High School with
the Beach Boys. Mike Gillespie has been Troys' coach since 1987, and led the team to
victory in Omaha in 1998.
The mid-1960s were years in which some interesting players came under Dedeaux'
tutelage, but success was elusive. Siebert led Minnesota to the National Championship
in 1964, followed by Bobby Winkles at Arizona State (1965, 1967) and Ohio State (1966).
The '65 Arizona State Sun Devils are regarded as one of the best teams in college history.
They featured outfielders Rick Monday and Reggie Jackson, third baseman Sal Bando
and pitcher Gary Gentry.
Monday had somehow eluded Dedeaux' grasp coming out of Santa Monica High School.
"`Tiger, tiger,'" says Mo, imitating Dedeaux' favorite expression. Dedeaux came to be
known for calling virtually everybody "Tiger", like Babe Ruth referring to all in his path
as "Kid."
"He could turn on the charm," continues Monday, now a popular part of the Dodgers'
broadcasting team, along with Vin Scully and Ross Porter. "But my mother was really
taken with Winkles. She was a single mom, and she saw Winkles as a father figure to
me."
Monday became the first player ever selected in the first Major League draft, when the
then-Kansas City A's chose him number one in '65.
The Devils were almost a farm club of what would later be the Oakland A's dynasty of the
early 1970s. Monday, Jackson and Bando would play together at Modesto of the Class
A California League, move up through the minor leagues', and then star in Oakland.
Jackson was a proud, talented, sensitive black athlete who played football for Frank
Kush, as well as baseball, in Tempe. In 1966, the New York Mets' made Steve Chilcott
the first pick in the draft, so Oakland selected Jackson, who would star for the A's AA
farm club in Birmingham, Alabama. It was at Birmingham where Jackson met
legendary Alabama football coach Paul "Bear" Bryant.
Bryant was friends with Oakland owner and Birmingham native Charles O. Finley, who
introduced Jackson to him in the Barons' clubhouse. Bryant sized up the ex-football star
and said, "Now here's just the kinda nigger we could use in our football program."
Reggie took it as a compliment, which in a roundabout way it was meant to be. It was
also a harbinger of future events, which would be pushed along by the currents of
history. In 1970, two years after Martin Luther King's assassination, USC strolled into
Birmingham led by a black fullback from Santa Barbara, California named Sam "Bam"
Cunningham. Cunningham ran for four touchdowns against the all-white Crimson Tide,
and after the game Bryant asked Coach John McKay if he could "borrow" Cunningham.
Cunningham was brought into the silent Alabama locker room, but this time Bryant did
not drop any "N-bombs." Instead, he announced to his team that "This here's a football
player."
Shortly thereafter, Southern football became an integrated affair.
Dedeaux had grown up alongside blacks in multi-cultural Los Angeles, and a number
have played for him over the years. One of the first was Don Buford, who like Jackson
was a football/baseball star for the Trojans' in the 1950s. Later, Buford would be on
Dedeaux' coaching staff, and his son, Damon, would play at SC before embarking on a
big league career.
In the mid-1960s, Dedeaux' teams included the likes of Tom Seaver, Mike Garrett, Tom
Selleck and Bill "Spaceman" Lee.
Seaver, who Dedeaux referred to as my "Phee-nom from San Joaquin," was an
unrecruited pitcher at Fresno High School who grew into his body in the Marine Corp.
After a stint at Fresno City College and the Alaska Goldpanners, Seaver had matured
into a prospect, so Dedeaux gave him a scholarship. He was 10-2 with a 2.51 ERA in
1965, but inexplicably the Trojans' were last in the conference!
"Seaver was happy-go-lucky back then," recalls Bill Lee, "not the corporate asshole he is
now. He seemed hittable at first, but then got on the weights and developed that fastball
with a hop on it. Eventually, he had the best fastball in baseball. That's the difference
between us, him smoking a big cigar in a limo and me in the back of beer truck."
Seaver was drafted that June by the team he had grown up rooting for, the Dodgers. His
family had season tickets to Dodger Stadium, and whenever Sandy Koufax pitched he was
there. Dodger scout Tom Lasorda drove out to Seaver's house in Fresno to sign the
young Trojan, and offered the future Hall of Famer all of $2,000.
"I didn't negotiate with him," Lasorda says now, but the record shows differently.
Seaver was begging to be a Dodger, but he knew he was worth more than two grand.
Lasorda thought the kid should be kissing his ring instead of holding out for some money,
so the talks ended and Seaver returned to school.
Six months later, in January of 1966, the Milwaukee Braves chose him in the Winter
phase of the draft, signing him for $50,000. SC had played a game against the Camp
Pendleton Marines, however, officially starting their season, so the signing violated
baseball's rules. The NCAA viewed Seaver as a pro, so the Commissioner created a
lottery, and the Mets' name appeared. The rest is history.
Seaver's roommate at SC was still another black football/baseball star. Mike Garrett of
LA's Roosevelt High School would win the 1965 Heisman Trophy, play in two Super
Bowl's for the Kansas City Chiefs (along with a brief minor league baseball stint), and
now he is trying to restore Troy to greatness as its athletic director.
"Tom was just so strong," recalls Garrett of Seaver, "and he worked hard on the weights,
improving all the time."
       Another athlete who played a little baseball, a little basketball and a little

volleyball at the University of Southern California during this time was a handsome, 6-5

frat boy from Grant High School in Van Nuys, named Tom Selleck.

"He was a Greek geek," was Lee's assessment of Selleck, who would go on to become a
noted Republican in left-leaning Hollywood. "I was a Communist liberal in a
conservative university," one Lee's grandfather, Norman Rockwell Hunt, had helped
found, by the way. Lee had wry commentary for USC's Hollywood connections, which
are many.
"Selleck was making `Myra Breckenridge'," Lee went on. "I hated all the elitism at the
school. Alan Ladd, Jr. snaked my girlfriend away from me, because he drove a Ferrari."
Lee, who had grown up in the San Fernando Valley before attending Terra Linda High
School, in the San Francisco suburb of Marin County, originally came to SC on an
athletic scholarship, but after his freshman year his "ERA of 1.93 was higher than my
grade point average."
He righted the academic ship, however, but always found time for a little fun. He also
was rudely introduced to the less-than-plush neighborhood surrounding the SC campus.
"My friend, Orrin Freeman, had a Corvette convertible," remembers Lee. "He parked it
near campus, but when we got back all the seats were stolen. That night, we cruised
Sunset Strip sitting on orange crates."
Lee once emerged before his teammates from an airport baggage chute. In Hawaii, he
did push-ups during a rain delay wearing only socks and a jock strap. In Santa
Barbara, he forgot his sanitary socks, so he disappeared looking for a sporting goods
store, not realizing the equipment manager had a ready supply of reserves. He
re-appeared minutes before the game, and with virtually no warm-up went out and beat
the Gauchos' anyway.
His senior year, 1968, Lee decided to "hold out," telling Rod he would only pitch
weekend conference games if he could pitch and play first base in the mid-week
non-conference games. Dedeaux placated him by letting him take batting practice, and
in that All-American season Lee was 12-3 with a 1.82 earned run average. The Trojans'
won the College World Series, and in later years Lee would tell Curry Kirkpatrick of
Sports Illustrated that "the best baseball team I've ever seen was either the 1975 Reds,
the 1968 USC Trojans, or any Taiwan little league team."
They do not call him Spaceman for nothing.
From 1970-74, Troy had the greatest run in college baseball history, winning five
consecutive National Championships. In 1970,Dave Kingman was the Mark McGwire of
his era--a former pitcher who realized his offensive skills in leading the Trojans' to
victory in Omaha.
Fred Lynn was an All-American on the 1973 team. He came to SC on a football
scholarship "but after trying to tackle Sam `Bam' Cunningham a few times," John McKay
mercifully turned his scholarship over to Dedeaux. A mere two years after leading USC
to a National Championship, Lynn was the American League Rookie of the Year and
Most Valuable Player for the 1975 AL Champion Boston Red Sox.


Steve Kemp hit .435 for the '74 National Champs, but in 1975 Augie Garrido and the
upstart Cal State Fullerton Titans upset USC in the NCAA West Regional.
        USC returned to Omaha in 1978, and their 54-9 team, led by Bill Bordley, is

considered by many to be the greatest team in college history.

Aftet that, the NCAA imposed scholarship limits which Dedeaux has steadfastly blamed
for the decline in his programs, but others observed that age began to take its toll on Rod
in the early 1980s.
Still, he landed some recruiting prizes. Randy Johnson was a 6-10 left-hander who threw
gas, but was wild as a March hare. He pitched with limited success at USC from
1983-85, and after a Sandy Koufax-like journey through the minors and his early years in
The Show, has emerged as baseball's dominant southpaw.
Mark McGwire came to SC as a pitcher, but after leading the Alaskan Summer League
with a .403 batting average in 1982, Dedeaux turned him into a full-time first baseman.
He was a two-time All-American and set the NCAA single-season home run record, and
was the College Player of the Year and a 1984 Olympian before Oakland signed him, and
he is now the top home run hitter of all-time.
Dedeaux coached the 1984 U.S. Olympic baseball team, which included McGwire, Will
Clark, Rafael Palmeiro, and a host of other stars who would go on to Major League
success.
Dedeaux retired at the end of the 1986 season, and his successor, Mike Gillespie, has
experienced tough sledding replacing the legend. Finally, by winning the 1998 CWS,
Gillespie established himself as his own man at Troy.


Dedeaux laid the foundation for college baseball's popularity. Today, many teams play
in state-of-the-art facilities, drawing large crowds and turning healthy profits. ESPN
televises the popular College World Series, with the championship game played on
network TV. College games are a weekend staple on many cable stations.
        Dedeaux could have enjoyed the fame and notoriety of managing in the Major

Leagues, but instead has labored--for free--strictly for the love of his game and his

school. He deserves to honored in Cooperstown, and perhaps a book detailing his

accomplishments will open some people's eyes towards elevating him to that level of

prominence.
                                           The

                                       EIGHTIES




                                      JIM PERRY

Sports Information Director
1974 - 1984


I co-wrote McKay: A Coach's Story. John McKay wanted to call it 1st and 25. McKay
was a unique personality. McKay was Catholic, but I'm not sure how religious he was.
His favorites were old John Wayne movies, but he was also highly influenced by Patton,
starring George C. Scott. He used to lecture me. I'm over at UCLA and he' lecturing me,
why am I writing about that crap? He said, "You should see Patton." I'm 21 and anti-war
and just snorted, but he just said, "I know how you feel, but you should see it. It's
revealing." When his assistants saw that movie, they felt that McKay was Patton, an
absolute dictator who cared about his men but was tougher than hell. You knew who the
boss was. That was McKay. McKay felt he was Patton.
        Craig Fertig was like a second son to McKay. Dave Levy was more cynical. Levy
respected him but had not played for him and had a differing view. McKay was very
demanding, decisive. Coaches are afraid to make the call on the goal line, but he made
those decisions. He'd not walk away. He was stubborn in his beliefs and knew how to
coach the running game. You know the old line about how O.J. Simpson was carrying the
ball too much: "It's not heavy, and he's not in a union." McKay was very bright and he
respected people who were tough; if you came back at him he respected that. You could
change his mind. He was in charge, he was old-fashioned, but on occasion his mind could
be changed. He and Bear Bryant were alike in that way.
        McKay didn't like coaching from a tower, he wanted to be in touch with his
players and moved around in a golf cart. He had an incredible sense of humor, but he
could be a terror. His one-liners were incredible and not always for the writers. I've been
around him one-on-one and heard him say the most comical things. In 1975 when the
team struggled he said, "Our offense can't move the ball against a strong wind."
        Other times he'd say, "I hate the first game of the season. I'd rather open with the
second game." McKay could be so funny, and he was at his best in front of booster clubs
with large crowds. He'd entertain them. He could have been a stand-up comic. He had a
dry wit, was laconic and moody. You never really knew what you were getting. He could
be short and temperamental and his icy stare could be chilling.
        When I worked on his book his voice got in my head. I told my wife how tough
he was and then she met him and he charmed her socks off. My wife just said, "He's not
like what you said at all."
        When I finished taping the book I went to the College All-Star Game to finish the
editing with him, and I started barking orders to my wife, Cathy. Corky McKay just told
her, "You don't have to put up with that." I had started to sound like McKay!
        The two biggest games that made an impression on McKay were the 51-0 loss to
Notre Dame in 1966 and the 20-16 loss to UCLA in 1965. Against the Bruins USC blew
a 10-point lead when Gary Beban threw two late touchdown passes, and the papers said
McKay had been out-coached by Tommy Prothro, which galled him. He didn't like
Prothro.
        McKay watched those '65 and '66 games a couple times a week. They "stuck in
my throat," he said. After the loss to Notre Dame he went back to South Bend with O.J.
and won, 24-7 and of all the things he did; the national championships and Heismans,
nothing was more impressive than that series. From 1966 to 1974 all those games
effected the national title picture and the ratings were fabulous. USC and Notre Dame
represented the pinnacle of college football.
        I was in Birmingham in '78. SC won twice there and they won twice in L.A.

against Alabama. SC won 24-14 in that 1978 game. I advanced that game and had no

feeling of black-white problems. It was just another game in that regard, although it

determined a shared national championship. It was a huge game, but not seen as anything

remarkable off the field.

The story that says Bear Bryant did not have Sam Cunningham on a stool in front of his
players in 1970, but rather in the crowded hallway between the visiting and home lockers
at Legion Field, and that he said, "This here's what a football player looks like" more for
the benefit of old-line alumni and administration, makes a lot of sense. He already had
black players, but he had a bigger problem with the administration, the fans, and to some
extent the media.
McKay was a unique personality. USC had very few black athletes before McKay. There
was C.R. Roberts, Don Buford, Brice Taylor, and not many others. But it didn't take
McKay long to recruit blacks, and he had a lot of them. Jimmy Jones became our first
black starting quarterback in 1969 as a sophomore.
More blacks than whites started. McKay was conservative in some ways politically, but
his football line was "win the damn game."
"Shut up and play."
"Do your job."
McKay's ambition from the beginning was to win, but to win successfully. If the best
players were black, that was not an issue. He didn't talk about USC's black-white
relations. They were pretty good in tumultuous times. He'd just play the best player in the
game no matter who he was.


Jim Perry was the longtime sports information director at the University of
Southern California. In 1974, he co-authored McKay: A Coach's Story, the
autobiography of John McKay.


                                         MIKE ROTH

Center
1982


My experience there, I didn’t get until after I was out, maybe 20 years or so. My world
has been a work in progress so to speak. Maybe I'm confused or I hope maybe I'm not
understanding it at the moment. When I was at USC I had a girl I dated who had a lot of
issues. I came from a real dysfunctional family. She had a bad attitude and I came away
from that with an experience that made me a better person.
        Football was good. I enjoyed it, but I came away with more from the struggles I

faced there with football, with school relationships really. I was able to get through it and

graduated.

Afterwards got I married, and it's 21 years, a great marriage. I have a son whose eight,
and I've had to be strong because he has some issues that we're dealing with, but life's
been really good to me. But USC was almost a boundary. It's like you come out first, like
a foundry that burns off the crack. It was like climbing Mt. Everest. Bruce Matthews's
dad was All-Pro with the Chiefs, and his brother was an All-American, and it was like
normal to him, like he was raised play football. He was tremendous. There were these
great athletes who were inculcated in it from when they were a kid, but I had not been.
My dad was a hairdresser who never played sports. Ours was a very dysfunctional family.
I did it on my own. I did it on my own did, I did it from scratch, but I give a lot thanks to
Coach Robinson.
I started at Hawaii, then went to junior college. I got kicked off the Hawaii team because
I got in a fight with the coach. I talked to Robinson and he said go to J.C. and if I did well
he'd bring me there, and he was true to word. He really gave me an opportunity. Part of
me felt like I left a lot on the table, that I didn't fulfill my end of the bargain. I got into the
wrong relationships and was not being totally focused. I graduated but today if I took
those classes I'd get more out of it. Classes were really hard. I faced failure but had to
battle through it.
I learn from struggle, from failure, but I love the school. I have respect for the football
team and have no ill will, but my own experience was tough. It made me tough-minded.
It was a tremendous juggernaut.
What saw me through was my Christian faith. In life you have choices, crossroads of life.
You have choice one, which is a road that will lead you to a certain area, and other roads
are different. If I'd taken steroids and trained differently, things might have been
different, but my choice was to do it right, but it was tough. It took everything I had. I
had a brother who played at Nebraska. Those guys all juiced to play. At Penn State
they're all on steroids. It was a different era. Drugs make a world of difference. I'm not a
tremendously big guy. I competed with guys who were close to 300 pounds. I'm 250. I'm
still strong but it's so hard in that environment, training eight hours a days plus school. A
tremendous amount is required of an athlete and to be at a high level is very difficult.
I made a promise to God I would never do that. My faith is what got me through. Without
faith it would have been disastrous. Today I'm really involved in my church and my
family is involved. My son, Garrett has autism and I'm dealing with that, but like
everything else faith is the answer.
The path we travel on, the relationships with USC teammates, helped my development.
Don Mosebar was a teammate and good friend who has a company here in the south bay.
He values the progress of developers for lenders. I see him a lot.
Jeff Bregel was a real character. I knew him when I was a senior and he was a freshman.
I played against him every day in practice. He was so good. He was a top football player.
He had a good relationship with his family. He and his dad were really close. I think he
was from the San Fernando Valley. He did very well. Kelly Thomas was a friend. I saw
him a couple years ago. He works for the Department of Water and Power.


Mike Roth prepped at Mira Costa High School in Manhattan Beach. After a year at

the University of Hawaii, he transferred to West Los Angeles J.C., and from there to

USC where he was a back-up center. He runs his own real estate firm in the South

Bay.


                                    JEFF SIMMONS

Wide Receiver
1980 - 1982


I'm an old school guy, and USC was always my school. I grew up rooting for the Trojans

all the way. Charlie Moses was a junior or senior when I was a freshman. He just

wreaked havoc, but he got dismissed from the team.

       I grew up in Stockton, and Sam Dickerson was one of the reasons I loved, and

went to USC, other than an infatuation with O.J. Simpson. Sam's cousins and my mom

were best of friends. I'd go to his aunt's house. She would invite any homeless drunk or

derelict and we would have family members and wayward people at her home on
Saturdays. I was watching Southern California play, and I'm watching on television, on a

black-and-white TV, and the players would run out with their helmets in their arms and

give their names and position. He'd say, "Number 18, Sam Dickerson. Stockton,

California. Wide receiver." We'd lose our collective minds. To know somebody from

Stockton was on TV playing for USC was unreal, and man that was my first early

introduction to Southern Cal. He was always making catches.

In 1969 Sam caught the winning touchdown in the shadows of the end zone to beat
UCLA, a legendary moment, and I later heard Pete Carroll was a high school student in
the stands that night, rooting for the Trojans. This guy goes to UOP, in my hometown of
Stockton, and becomes the coach at USC and coaches my son Kevin Arbet. The world is
so small. Sam Dickerson was my guy, a big inspiration.
Jimmy Jones at that time was starting at quarterback, and he caught flack, but he was a
heck of a passer and held a lot of records. Sam was incredible. Another guy I admired
from the late 1960s and early '70s was Bobby Chandler. I'm as much a fan of Southern
Cal football as I am an alumnus. I lived and died it since I was five or six. My dad would
tell me about this little guy called "the Duck." It was Mike Garrett. I watch him against
Cal and eight guys grabbed him, and he just slipped through all of them and scored. I
lived and died with SC. If they lost my week didn't work. When they came on TV I could
not get anything else done. I once did a speech for our debate team, in Modesto, and that
was the day Notre Dame had the green jerseys, and I heard 49-something they lost, and I
was crushed. I was involved in a speech and a debate tournament, that was the Dan
Devine team, and I was ruined for the debate.
John Robinson was a good motivator. We'd rise to the occasion and recognize the
importance of what we were doing. In 1978 at Alabama, the year before they'd lost to
'Bama at the Coliseum, J.R. put together a collection of film collage and says. "Look at
the guys who are gonna win," and he shows that the team that pushes the line of
scrimmage is the team that's winning. In big games, money games, with everybody in the
country watching, their all looking to see how you will do. We went down there and it
was all this, "Roll Tide!" We refused to be intimidated. It was "big man on big man," a
Marv Goux saying. He'd say, "If they hit you in the mouth spit it back . . . we'll play 'em
in the parking lot . . . we'll play 'em in an empty lot." I had the sense of the moment. This
is your opportunity to shine.
One of the teammates I admired was Randy Simmrin. He left the year I came in. He
could catch the ball and run routes. He had the ability to make plays, the ability to catch
the football. He'd average 20 yards a catch, and that was in the days when SC didn't
throw the ball quite a bit. He had like 41 catches his senior year, so I idolized him and the
numbers he put up. That was unheard of.
Vic Rakhshani was another receiver and a great guy. He's very humble. Vic's a very
handsome man. He had done some movies, some camera work, but his demeanor was
humble and meek. He's a very strong Christian. He was an intelligent football player.
Vic had a sixth sense and we'd do all kinds of things, real "zoom" stuff; hybrids,
movement. Vic about this time was the forerunner to all that stuff that came in, that Paul
Hackett and Norv Turner did. He was a guy doing things that are now all the rage. We'd
go to the H-back or hybrid receivers, like Norman Chow liked to do.
Marcus Allen, you know, it was interesting. He first came there, he was 19 maybe, a
freshman, and Marcus; it was almost like he fit in with all the older guys. He started as a
defensive back so I as a receiver didn’t like him. At the first practice he and I got in a
fight. What I admired so much about him, he was one of those guys who don't understood
how good they really are. It was no big deal.
The only guy I was in awe of was Charlie White. In the huddle I'd be next to him and my
eyes would go out of my head. Charlie turns to John Jackson, an assistant coach, and
says, "Get him out of here, he's star trippin'."
I didn't see what was so special about Marcus at first, but as time went on and I watched
him play, I could understand the athleticism of this man. He is one of the most athletic
people I ever played with. He's not a 4.5 sprinter, but he could do it all: throw, catch, run.
As I got older White was a great runner but Marcus was a great athlete who could play
any position.
When I watched Kevin Arbet, there's few things for me that are really special. I passed a
lot of that on to him, like my experience being recruited. I was being recruited by USC
and was there when they lost to Cal at Berkeley. I think it was 1977, Cal won 17-14. Joe
Roth had led them to a win a couple years earlier.
You'd have thought Cal had won the Rose Bowl, they were so happy, and I'm thinking if
SC wins it's just another win. Paul Hackett let me in the Trojans' locker room, and I'll
never forget what I saw in there. Anthony Munoz and Charlie White almost came to
blows. They were just livid, and you kept hearing comments like, "You're messing with
my money," and "We're not gonna go to the Rose Bowl now." You'd have thought
somebody had died. Munoz is punching lockers, somebody is screaming, and I thought to
myself, "These guys are serious about winning."
So the next week I'm on a recruiting trip to Berkeley, and they play Washington.
Washington beat Cal on the last play and those guys said, "Aw, don't worry guys, we beat
SC."
I wanted to play for a winner, a champion. At USC, they cared. That's What It Means to
Be a Trojan. That sealed it for me. They 'd show a guy from UCLA on TV, and he'd be a
pretty boy with a trim Afro. The SC guys looked rugged, they looked like football
players. The UCLA guys looked like a central casting player. SC looked like, "I'm hear to
play."
For me going to USC and leaving as the all-time leading receiver in school history, I can't
tell you how much that meant to me. I wanted my name etched in the annals of USC
history. I finished with four school records as the greatest receiver in the history of the
University. That was special. For six years or so I'd open the program and see my name
there. The fact is a lot of those records have been broken, but my final game was against
Notre Dame. We won and I got to direct the band afterwards.
You can't close the script better than that. Coach Robinson introduced me as the "greatest
receiver in the history of Southern Cal." We formed a column from the track to the field
and the seniors walked off, and you walk, you don’t run. You take the time to shake
hands. It's a beautiful thing and remains as one of my all-time great moments.
The only thing that tops that is seeing your son play at the same place you played your
last game. Against Louisiana Tech Kevin intercepted a pass and ran 75 yards for a TD.
That gives me chills to think of it now, this young man who enters as a walk-on. Hackett
was gracious to let him go there with nothing and make something of himself, to become
a scholarship player and have Heisman teammates, win national titles and bowl games.
We both have national title rings. I was at USC in 1978, his are from 2003 and 2004. I
can't tell you the pride I have in being a Trojan. This is not Miami or Florida State, a few
sprinklings here and there. Southern California has enjoyed consistent domination since
1920. I'm part of that, and it's awesome.

Jeff left school the all-time USC career record-holder at the wide receiver position,

which had been occupied by the likes of Lynn Swann just a few years earlier. He

earned the Brice Taylor award (1982) in honor of the first Trojan All-American,

and the Theodore Gabrielson award as the outstanding player in the Notre Dame

game. Simmons was selected for the East-West Shrine Game and the Japan Bowl.

He played for John Robinson and Marv Goux with the Los Angeles Rams (1983).

His stepson, Kevin Arbet, was a standout on the 2003-04 Trojan national

champions.



                                    SCOTT TINSLEY

Quarterback
1980 - 1982


I was in the Southern California football program for the last five years that John
Robinson was the head coach (1978-82). Marv Goux was still with the program and it
was still the "glory days" of Trojan football.
        I red-shirted in 1978. We won the national title. It was a fun year. We should have

won in 1979, too, but a tie with Stanford cost us a second straight number one ranking.

My teammates included Charles White, Anthony Munoz, Paul McDonald and Ronnie

Lott. From 1979-82, during those four years I was the holder for extra points and field

goals. 1980 was my sophomore year. I started the last two games, vs. UCLA and Notre
Dame, both big games. We had UCLA beat. Marcus Allen scored late in the fourth

quarter and we were ahead, 17-13. A couple of possessions were exchanged, and on their

last drive Jay Schroeder scrambled on a fourth down from his own 30. My roommate Jeff

Fisher went for the interception, but the ball bounced off his shoulder. Ronnie Lott put on

the brakes. Dennis Smith was faced the other way. Freeman McNeil caught it on the dead

run. It was like the "immaculate reception." He ran for the winning score. I threw it in the

end zone a couple of times, but time ran out on us and that win slipped through our

fingers.

We came back the next game against number one Notre Dame at the Coliseum. Michael
Harper had to replace Marcus Allen, who was hurt, and he had a fine game and we drilled
the Fighting Irish, 20-3, which was a great, great day. In 1980 we had a lot of talent and it
could have been one of the all-time great USC teams, but the season is not remembered
that way for different reasons, but we had an incredible collection of great athletes that
included Lott, Roy Foster, Keith Van Horne, Dennis Smith, Marcus Allen . . .
In 1981 spring camp I thought I'd be the starter, since I'd started the last two games of the
1980 season, which should have been a win over the Bruins and of course was a victory
over the Irish. Sean Salisbury was a blue chip freshman quarterback. John Mazur was a
sophomore. I thought I'd won the job but they put Mazur in. I thought I was done. I held
for field goals in 1981. We had the talent and expectations to go all the way. It was a
good season but not a great one. We finished 9-3. We beat Oklahoma, Notre Dame and
UCLA. George Achica blocked a field goal in the last second to give us the victory over
the Bruins, but we lost the Fiesta Bowl and we lost to Washington.
The 1981 Oklahoma game is one of the greatest in Trojan history. It was the biggest
game in the country. We were ranked number one and the Sooners were number two. The
game was played early in the year at the Coliseum. It was great but there were mixed
feelings for me. I grew up a huge OU fan, but they ran the wishbone or the option. I heard
from Barry Switzer but I couldn't do that. I'd been at Putnam City West High School in
Oklahoma. Our coach didn't do that. All the others went to the option but we didn't. I ran
up good numbers and went through the recruiting process. I knew Switzer. I'd been to the
Barry Switzer camp and he said, "We recruit athletes." I'm not gonna go to Oklahoma
State or Kansas State. OU recruited me out of respect but I chose not to play for them
because their offense was not tailored to my throwing style. So, when they came out to
play us, I wanted to play and I didn't wanna lose to them. I didn't wanna lose to anyone
but I really wanted to beat Oklahoma.
It was a huge game but extremely disappointing not to play. I thought I'd be the starter
but it didn't work out that way. One thing I never forgot was they led us 24-21 with two
minutes left, and OU had the ball on our 48, fourth and one, and if he goes for it and gets
the first down, they win. They ran the ball good all day but fumbled a bunch of
exchanges. They'd fumble 10 and lose six of 'em, a lot on quarterback-center exchanges.
Because of that Switzer punted, and Mazur drove 'em down the field.
We had maybe two seconds to go and we're down on their two. We could kick and settle
for a tie, but that's not the USC style, so we go for the win. The TV cameras picked up on
Coach Robinson talking to Mazur, whose a sophomore in his third game, but Robinson's
got his arm around him, he's smiling and saying, "Hey, this is why you come to USC."
It was typical of Coach Robinson, who stayed calm and imparted that to his players.
Other coaches would be frantic, waving their hands, yelling into their headsets, but not
Robinson and not the Trojans. He sends Mazur back out there and he hits Fred Cornwell
for a touchdown pass and glory, 28-24. Robinson was great with that.
We beat people up at the line of scrimmage. The quarterback's in a good situation. We
always ran the ball well, and when you did throw it the second safety was up on the line,
they were always forced into a man-to-man defense, and it was easier to throw it.
Coach Robinson was very much like that, calm and reassuring. Before the 1980 UCLA
game when I got the start, we were stretching and he just takes this personal moment to
walk over to me and says, "Take a look around." The Coliseum's ringed with cardinal and
gold, and blue and gold, and he says, "Just like Putnam City West." There's 90,000-plus
at the Coliseum. When you'd play certain games, you'd come out of the tunnel, and
usually a couple times a year you'd look and the peristyle end was full, and that's when
you knew it was a big game.
In the Fiesta Bowl loss to Joe Paterno, Curt Warner and Penn State, 26-10, it was the only
game in my five years at USC where I felt we had no chance to win. We had a great
team. Marcus Allen set all the rushing record and won the Heisman Trophy, but we lost
26-10. It might as well have been 50-10. Curt Warner out-played Marcus.
I was friends with Mazur and Sean, but they were ahead of me. Mazur got hit late in the
Fiesta Bowl. I said, "He better get up," but he stayed down long enough he had to be
taken out of the game. Sean went in the second half, but we never cranked it up and lost.
In 1982, Salisbury was installed as the number one quarterback. I'm told that Randall
Cunningham, the younger brother of Sam "Bam" Cunningham, wanted to come to USC,
but was told that they were pinning all their hopes on Sean. Cunningham went to UNLV
and became an All-Pro at Philadelphia, and the USC program went on a period of down
years.
We had another good team in 1982 but fell just short enough to prevent us from reaching
our usual goals. Mazur got mad that he lost his starting job to Sean and he transferred to
Texas A&M, which put me right back in the mix in the second half when Sean blew out
his knee. I started the last four games in my senior year. It was ironic that in my career, I
started twice against UCLA and twice against Notre Dame. In 1982 we played the Bruins
and the Fighting Irish back-to-back again, just like 1980. ESPN had just started
SportsCenter and they highlighted these games. They were the ABC games of the week. I
got four of those and more airtime than if I'd stayed in my home state of Oklahoma.
We lost the opener at Florida. It was super-hot hot and humid. Wilbur Marshall was all
over Sean all afternoon. We played a re-match in Norman and they used these chop
blocks on the corners. I remember we practiced for it hard, and we beat Oklahoma, 12-0.
That ended a string of consecutive games the Sooners had scored at least two points, an
NCAA record, and then after that USC broke that record until SC was shut out some
years later. I didn't start but Robinson let me play in front of my hometown friends and
family. He was classy.
Sean got hurt. At number seven Arizona State, I came in late in the fourth quarter. I did
okay but we got beat 17-10. We had the ball on their goal ready to go in but we sent a
guy in motion too early and got hit with a penalty. We couldn't stick it in. I got the
California start and we killed them, 42-0. We went to Arizona and had a shootout on the
road, winning 48-41.
The UCLA game was a classic. It was the first Trojan-Bruin game played in the Rose
Bowl after UCLA left the Coliseum. Their fans got tired of walking past all our shrines
every game. We trailed 20-6 well into the second half, but we scored twice. We called
time-out on their one-yard line. I called a misdirection pass to Mark Boyer, our tight end.
Then there was confusion, with a lot on the line as to who would go to the Rose Bowl if
UCLA wins or ties, and we went for two. I thought they'd play man, try for Jeff
Simmons, but I got blindsided by Karl Morgan and we lost, 20-19.
We had a chance to redeem our season the last game against Notre Dame. We came back
to win, 17-13. Mike Harper had another good game against the Fighting Irish. He had
good games against them in 1980 and '82. It was another game where we're gonna go for
the win, not the tie. Let the other teams go for ties, Trojans go for wins, and Michael went
over the goal without the ball. The referee didn’t call it and glory was ours.
In 1979 Tim Shannon was a freshman. Jeff Fisher wen to the Chicago Bears after the
1980 season and Tim moved in with me to the Moon apartment behind sorority row. He
was my roommate and close friend for two years, from 1981-82. His father is Mike
Shannon, the great St. Louis Cardinals' third baseman and longtime announcer. I met
with him all the time. Mr. Shannon was a classic Cardinal. He'd come into town for the
cardinal and gold game and we always had a great time. Whenever I've been on the road
for many years on business, I'd always take clients up to Mike's private box at Busch
Stadium and introduce them to Mr. Shannon.
I never heard the story that Tom Cruise was going to enroll at USC until Risky Business
became a blockbuster, but I did meet Kelly McGillis from Top Gun. Someone said she
graduated from USC. I don't know. I knew Jennifer Nicholson, Jack Nicholson's
daughter, really well. I think she's a clothing designer and does well. Lou Brock's son
played football at USC and was great athlete.
Marv Goux was like a second dad to me, and a great man. I speak for a lot of people
when I say that about him. Chris Smith was the best baseball hitter I ever saw. Tim
played baseball as well as football, so I watched a lot of ballgames. Rod Dedeaux's team
won the 1978 national title, and I remember being amazed at the varsity alumni games
when Tom Seaver, Dave Kingman and all these superstars would come out. Smith just
comes over to the fence and says, "I’ll hit two out today," and he did. He'd come back
and knock on the door when he was done with winter ball, usually just in time for the
Notre Dame game. I don't know about his defense, but he just wanted to hit. Bill Bordley
was finishing up at USC when I got there, and he was a flame-thrower who would have
been a Major League star had he not hurt himself.
I've followed the Trojans and really like how Pete Carroll handles the situation at
quarterback. He's the very best coach in the nation. I'm good friends with Colt Brennan. I
live in Orange County and he came out of the Mater Dei program that produced Matt
Leinart. His coach, Bruce Rollinson, is a great Trojan.
Scott Tinsley's first year in the program was 1978, when Troy captured the national

title. He was the starting quarterback in his senior year (1982), earning the Marv

Goux award for contributing the most in the UCLA game, when he led the Trojans

on a furious fourth quarter comeback until a courageous two-point attempt was

thwarted by the Bruins' Karl Morgan. Scott played in the 1983 Japan Bowl.




MICKEY MEISTER WAS MY FRIEND

www.American-Reporter.com, 2006



Marin County, California is one of the most affluent, prosperous places in the world. Not
only does it contain some of the richest zip codes and home prices, but its leafy environs
symbolize westernized Ivy League reverence for education and scholarship.
Consequently, graduates of Marin's high schools regularly matriculate at the top colleges
this nation has to offer, using their advantages and contacts to vault into great success in
life.
        Out of all the graduating seniors who made up Marin County's Class of 1979, it
can be argued that the one most likely to succeed was Mickey Meister, 18 years of age,
wearing the cap 'n' gown of the counties' most prestigious school of the era, Redwood
High. Among the laundry list of traits that make up "advantages" in the modern world,
Mick ran the table.
        Mick stood six-feet, five inches tall and weighed 220 pounds. Look up
"handsome" in the dictionary, and a picture of Mick in 1979 appears. He had a lion's
mien of brown hair and a smile that lit up a room. Girls drooled over him and guys
wanted to warm themselves in his sunshine. Everybody loved him. Or envied him.
        Mick either had a photographic memory or was just gifted when it came to
numbers. Either way, he was a math genius who could compute figures in his mind like
Dustin Hoffman in "Rainman".
        Mick was an only child. He lived in a mansion in Ross, one of the most exclusive
enclaves in one of the most exclusive of locations. Everything he wanted was handed to
him. His daily allowance matched the meal money provided to top professional athletes.
        Speaking of sports, Mick was named National High School Athlete of the Year in
1979. His competition included John Elway from Granada Hills and Jay Schroeder from
Palisades. It was on the baseball field where I knew Mick, and where our friendship
developed.
        When I got to Redwood, I began to hear stories about Meister's legend from the
Central Marin Babe Ruth League and junior high hoops. He was said to be a man among
boys. I spotted Mick for the first time playing tennis on the College of Marin courts. He
wore a perfectly matched white outfit, had a state-of-the art racquet, and the strokes to
go with it. He also could talk "trash" with the best of them.
         In those days, Redwood under taskmaster coach Al Endriss was one of the two or
three top prep baseball programs in America. Endriss was nothing if not hard-nosed.
         "This isn't a Democracy," he told us. "It's a dictatorship."
         Every once in a while a skilled sophomore would make the varsity. Mick made the
"big club" as a freshman. The tradition was for "rookies" to carry equipment and handle
menial tasks. Mick would have none of it. He knew he was destined to be the best pitcher
Redwood ever had, and demanded the number 19 jersey that was always worn by the
staff ace. Meister never paid Endriss the respect he demanded through fear and
intimidation. He was kicked off the team, and his teammates voted to keep him off.
Endriss knew he needed him, though, and brought him back. Mick nonchalantly
sauntered back, never uttering a whiff of apology or remorse. Mick went through
Redwood's female population like Patton's Army in the Low Countries. He drank and did
drugs. He seemed impervious to any ill effects. In 1977, despite the fact that our staff
included four pitchers who would play professionally (five would earn athletic
scholarships) Mick was the main man. The honor of starting the league opener was going
to go either to Mick or myself. I learned that it was Mick when I walked in the library and
Mick stood up and announced, loudly, that "Super sophomore Mickey Meister will be
starting for the Giants today." He was 11-1, earned all-league honors, and led us not
only to a 33-4 record and the North Coast Section title, but the "mythical" National
Championship of high school baseball. In his junior year, Mick was 14-0, made
consensus prep All-America, and Redwood again won the NCS (finishing number two in
the nation). As a senior, Mick capped the greatest pitching career in Marin history with
another All-American season.
         The world was at his feet. In my life I have never known a more self-confident
egotist than the teenage Mick. Despite his braggadocio, Mick was impossible not to like.
He had the copyright on charisma, and as Dizzy Dean once said, "If you can do it, it ain't
braggin'."
         The Boston Red Sox drafted him, but Mick decided to accept a full-ride to the
University of Southern California. I attended USC, too. It was there where I cemented my
friendship with him. Mick's ride at this private school was worth about $70,000. It was
also at this time that small fissures began to appear in Mick's life.
         His father, Jack, had been a minor league pitcher who had built his own
insurance business, but he was starting to run into financial problems. His mother, June,
had been an aspiring actress who claimed to have dated Marlon Brando before marrying
Jack. When Mick pitched in high school, June would sit in her car with a bottle of booze.
Her alcoholism was a known "secret." June was a talker. When you called Mick, you had
to give yourself 15 minutes because she could talk your head off if she answered the
phone. As soon as Mick graduated from Redwood, his folks broke up. June moved into a
small apartment in Greenbrae, and Jack moved to Atlanta, where he married a black
woman. She was not Tyra Banks. Mick's USC teammates called her "Aunt Jemima". For
the first time in his heretofore charmed life, Mick had to hold his tongue.
         Still, USC was a blast. In his sophomore year, Mick led the Trojans with a 9-3
record and was incredibly popular with all the beautiful USC coeds. But he partied too
hard. He rarely attended class, unless it was something like Film Appreciation and was
held at night. Mick was a film buff and an authority on all things rock 'n' roll, especially
Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones. Jagger was his not just his namesake but his role
model, which explains much too much.
        Mick spent hours playing video games instead of studying. He would find a smart,
pretty girl and cheat off of her. He drank every night. He had no work ethic, and it
affected his pitching. By his senior year he was out of favor with legendary coach Rod
Dedeaux. The L.A. Times, noting that four years earlier he was considered the nation's
best high school recruit, called him the "enigma." Instead of putting his math skills to use
as an aspiring accountant or engineer, Mick became a card shark. He outsmarted his
teammates in poker games, and on trips to Vegas learned how to count cards out of a
three-deck shoe. Mick had chutzpa in a big way. If he did not sleep with a girl, he
claimed to sleep with them. One of his "conquests" approached Mick when he came to a
campus restaurant with his teammates.
        "Hi, I'm Leslie," she said. "I thought I should introduce myself, since we've been
sleeping with each other." It did not faze Mick in any way. The things that would buckle a
normal guy had no affect on him. He was brazen.
        Mick never graduated. His standing as a prospect fell precipitously, and Seattle
drafted him in the low rounds. In the minor leagues, he drank heavily and took advantage
of the small town groupies. After two inauspicious seasons, his once-bright baseball
career was over.
        Mick ended up in the south bay area of Northern California, living in San Jose
and eventually Fremont. He always had the touch with women. His girlfriends were
always attractive. He always cheated on them. They always deserted him. He always
found a replacement. Mick actually found gainful employment, counseling students at
Silicon Valley College on their career prospects. It amazed me that he could hold a job
like that. It seemed utterly incongruous that somebody like Mick "counseled" students. He
was never in his office when you called him, bragging that he played golf and expensed
everything on the company dime. He was always juggling women; the divorcee did not
know about the secretary who did not know about the college chick. His friends felt sorry
for the girls but kept their mouths shut, even when they would ask them, "How could he
lie to me like that?"
        Eventually, things started going south in the South Bay. "Mick sightings"
described a haggard guy who no longer resembled the sports stud of his youth. His
mother passed away, and for all practical purposes Mick lost touch with his old man. He
drank at work and was the subject of sexual harassment complaints. He was suspected of
everything from absenteeism to embezzlement. Mick became addicted to gambling and
owed markers to bookies all over the country. He was fired.
        Mick had friends with money. He went to all of them, but over time each of them
cut him off. After being evicted, he would stay with friends, but always outstayed his
welcome. A constant tobacco chewer, he would leave his dip cups around the house for
the wives and kids of his friends to find, and eventually he just spat on the carpet,
blaming the children. Mick's friend, Mac, was the last to help him. He tried to direct his
credit card number only to motels and restaurants, but when he discovered that the
money he lent Mick went to wine, not food and shelter, he had to cut him off and change
his phone number.
         Mick then lived in a car - or worse - in Texas. I thought about Mick on
Thanksgiving in 2003. On the one hand, I know he had nobody to blame but himself, and
that if I had been blessed with his gifts I would have used them to the limit. Mick never
had any spiritual guidance. He laughed at the idea of religious faith, and seemed to
admire people who got away with bad deeds. He loved the way O.J. Simpson had gotten
away with murder, and thought Bill Clinton's ability to walk through the raindrops was a
textbook for life. On the other hand, I could not help but feel thankful that I have what I
have. My problems were minuscule compared to Mickey Meister's, and while he may not
have acknowledge God, I prayed that he would find peace.
         The last of Mick's friends to see him before he left for Texqas in 2003 reported
that as he was being driven to the bus station, he was still bragging about his latest
sexual conquest. Then he thought about his situation, and finally it seemed to hit him.
Still, the film buff in him was yearning to get out.
         "I don't know how this happened to me, but this could be a movie," he said. "What
would we call it? An 'American Tragedy'?"
         Three years later, Mickey Meister passed away.. To those who knew what had
become of him, this was news we expected since 2003. He was 44 years old. His life is a
Shakespearean cautionary tale of wasted talent and excess. He was a man of
extraordinary flaw, yet also one of great charisma. It is the fervent hope of this old friend
of Mick’s that somehow that charisma, combined with Mick’s spiritual knowledge of
death’s impending harvest - and hopeful repentance - impressed God enough to grant
salvation to his soul.

I was his friend, so I wanted to know what happene. When Mickey became homeless in
Texas, I wrote an article that ran nationally for The American Reporter, trying not just to
understand his cautionary tale but maybe to help him, if I could.
         The article found its way to Texas, where residents of Earl Campbell’s old
hometown of Tyler were trying to make sense of the strange, oddly entertaining drifter
named Mickey. The article detailed Mick’s success, his failures and his faults. The
desired effect was that he would grasp the realities of his life, causing him to right his
ship; take stock in himself; stop drinking; find peace through Christ.
         I heard through friends that Mick was peeved at the article, especially since it
shed light that made it harder to flimflam local Texas women. But he had a strange pride
in his faults, causing him to show the article around town, cherry-picking the parts about
his sports heroics and, oddly, bragging that “it’s all true.” Even the parts about his
childhood affluence were used to create the image that a trust fund was waiting, that he
just needed enough to get by, a loan, an investment in an Internet stock that was a sure
thing until his ship came in.
         The article hit a nerve. Numerous old Redwood and USC people came across it
and contacted me with “Meister stories.” Mick’s circle of friends started getting emails
from Tyler, Texas. The typical query went like this: “I have a female friend who has
befriended a man named Mickey Meister. She is not very attractive and quite flattered to
receive male attention. Each day she meets Mickey at ‘TGIF Friday’s,’ where he spends
the day drinking on my friend’s tab until she arrives after work. They drink and eat, she
pays the tab, and they go. Mickey has access to her bank account, ATM and 401K. He
promises he will pay her back, as he is investing in a big deal. He claims a doctorate
from USC, to be a former big league All-Star, and other fantastic fables.”
        Mick’s friends, myself included, tried to warn off these “lonely hearts club
women,” apparently with some success, but there was always another one. Finally, some
months ago, he talked one of them into coming to California with him. She weighed close
to 300 pounds and had given Mick access to her savings. Looking back, Mick was coming
home to die. He knew his liver could not take the alcohol abuse he put it through. The
handsome pitching ace was unrecognizable the last few years.
        But, again. . . why? As his friend, Alex Jacobs once said, “Mick’s a complex
human being.” To figure out the roots of his demise, one must look to a youth in which
his physical, mental and economic gifts were so great that he took them for granted. To
those of us who knew him, this was plainly obvious.
        As an athlete, he showed up and dominated. Females? Same thing. Money? It
seemingly grew on the trees of his Ross surroundings. Academics? His photographic
memory meant he did not need to study. His parents doted on him; his friends were more
like apostles. Door after door. . . welcome, Mick.
        But Mick cheated on girlfriends and stole from his male friends. One good pal
had a computer heisted by Mick. He was dishonest. Employment never lasted. He took
money from a Marin County bank that employed him as a teller, telling a friend who
inquired how he could do such a thing, “It’s really pretty easy once you get past the
morality of it.”
When caught red-handed stealing, cheating and lying, he just smiled. He was proud of
his ability to get away with stuff. He loved Bill Clinton because he was a slickster who
never got caught. He used his math skills to cheat at cards.
        My personal, humble analysis is that he lacked spiritual guidance. As it says in
the Gospel According to Matthew, “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world,
only to lose his soul?” It was in this verse that I found strange hope for Mick, because in
the end he lost the whole world. This was why I wrote about him in 2003, hoping he
would realize this, repent and save his soul, for in God’s mystery our Earthly stumbles
can be the pathway to Heaven. This remains my hope.
       Mick’s friends will gather for memories of him at Marin Joe’s on April 29.




SHAM OR SLAM?

StreetZebra, 2000



A crowd of 500 fans and camera crews from Parade magazine, NBC and ESPN showed

up at Riverside's Poly High School on the evening of January 28, 1982 to see if Cheryl

Miller would score 100 points against Norte Vista High. Norte Vista was one of the worst
high school girls' hoop teams of all time, coming in at 0-13. They had already lost to

North Riverside, 117-8. Norte Vista had lost to North Riverside, 126-11, the previous

year. Miller had scored 77 in a 137-11 win over them in 1981, and they had gone

through three coaches in three seasons.

         Was iitt jjustt coiinciidence tthatt Miilller and her tteammattes broke eiightt nattiionall and
         Was us co nc dence ha M er and her eamma es broke e gh na ona and

C..II..F.. records when tthe TV cameras were rollliing,, or was iitt a settup? Shoulld Miilller have
C F records when he TV cameras were ro ng or was a se up? Shou d M er have

pllayed tthe enttiire game?
p ayed he en re game?

"II guess II piicked a niice niightt tto do sometthiing,," Miilller saiid.. "II diidn''tt sett outt tto score 100
 " guess p cked a n ce n gh o do some h ng " M er sa d " d dn se ou o score 100
poiintts.."
 po n s "
Or diid she? When iitt was alll over,, she had scored 105.. Her brotther,, Reggiie,, a 6--5 jjuniior
 Or d d she? When was a over she had scored 105 Her bro her Regg e a 6 5 un or
fforward on Polly''s boys'' tteam,, scored 32 tthatt niightt iin a 74--69 overttiime lloss tto Nortte
  orward on Po y s boys eam scored 32 ha n gh n a 74 69 over me oss o Nor e
Viistta..
 Vsa
The 137 poiintts scored by tthe Miilllers may be a worlld record ffor a siistter--brotther
 The 137 po n s scored by he M ers may be a wor d record or a s s er bro her
combiinattiion..
 comb na on
Cheryll became tthe ffiifftteentth schoollgiirll tto pass tthe 100--poiintt mark.. Liinda Paiige off
 Chery became he een h schoo g r o pass he 100 po n mark L nda Pa ge o
Dobbiins Tech had scored 103 tthe previious year,, and Mariion Boyd off Lonaconiing
 Dobb ns Tech had scored 103 he prev ous year and Mar on Boyd o Lonacon ng
Centtrall Hiigh iin Marylland had scored 156 iin 1924..
 Cen ra H gh n Mary and had scored 156 n 1924
She was diiffferentt,, however.. Fllashiier.. A new kiind off ffemalle showsttopper..
 She was d eren however F ash er A new k nd o ema e shows opper
           "II guess II have tto ttake responsiibiilliitty ffor iitt,," saiid Polly coach Flloyd Evans afftter tthe
            " guess have o ake respons b y or " sa d Po y coach F oyd Evans a er he

centtury--mark game.. "We diidn''tt pullll back.. Butt whatt ellse shoulld II ttellll my kiids? Shoulld II
cen ury mark game "We d dn pu back Bu wha e se shou d e my k ds? Shou d

ttelll tthem tto pullll up when tthey gett a good shott?"
  e hem o pu up when hey ge a good sho ?"

The ffactt tthatt a 30--second cllock exiistted elliimiinatted Nortte Viistta ffrom tthe opttiion off sttalllliing..
The ac ha a 30 second c ock ex s ed e m na ed Nor e V s a rom he op on o s a ng
T..J.. Biienas,, Nortte Viistta''s coach,, had ttolld tthe tteam befforehand tthatt iiff tthey ffaiilled tto "show
T J B enas Nor e V s a s coach had o d he eam be orehand ha                                hey a ed o "show
up" or ffoulled on purpose,, tthey woulld nott gett a lletttter..
up" or ou ed on purpose hey wou d no ge a e er
When you are 0-13, getting a letter is not such great motivation, so one has to ask
themselves if the cameras and the situation all boiled to a conspiratorial head that night.
The questtiion comes down tto coach''s responsiibiilliitty.. Do you llett a pllayer break a record
The ques on comes down o coach s respons b y Do you e a p ayer break a record
whiille showiing up anotther tteam iin tthe process? Do you alllow your tteam tto be humiilliiatted
wh e show ng up ano her eam n he process? Do you a ow your eam o be hum a ed
att tthe expense off somebody ellse''s gllory?
a he expense o somebody e se s g ory?
Nevertheless, the 6-3 Miller has gone down in history as one of the greatest women's
basketball players ever. Her high school teams were 132-4, winning four Southern
Section championships, while she garnered consensus All-American honors. At USC she
led the Trojans to two national championships, was everybody's All-American, and was
the top player in the nation. In 1984 she led the United States to victory in the L.A.
Olympic Games, and she is one of the few women who could dunk.
Miilller ttranscended gender rolles by workiing as a courttsiide reportter ffor TNT duriing NBA
M er ranscended gender ro es by work ng as a cour s de repor er or TNT dur ng NBA
games,, and had a sttiintt as Troy''s coach.. She iis now tthe vollattiille coach off tthe WNBA''s
 games and had a s n as Troy s coach She s now he vo a e coach o he WNBA s
Phoeniix Mercury.. Emottiion iis a Miilller ttraiitt.. Reggiie pllayed att UCLA beffore bllossomiing
 Phoen x Mercury Emo on s a M er ra Regg e p ayed a UCLA be ore b ossom ng
iintto a sttar fforward wiitth tthe IIndiiana Pacers.. He iis welll known ffor hiis ttaunttiing and anttiics
  n o a s ar orward w h he nd ana Pacers He s we known or h s aun ng and an cs
duriing Pllay--Offff games..
 dur ng P ay O games
 Cheryl, like Reggie, is respected as a player, but is not loved by everyone. Once after
 Southern Cal beat Cal State Long Beach, she sat on the rim blowing kisses. Another time,
 after beating Tennessee, she did a cartwheel in front of the Lady Vols.' bench.
"II don''tt consiider mysellff a hott dog,," saiid Miilller.. "Butt II''m nott a subttlle pllayer.."
 " don cons der myse a ho dog " sa d M er "Bu m no a sub e p ayer "
 There is not enough mustard in America to cover this hot dog! She was the female
 version of Reggie Jackson.
"II know II woulldn''tt allllow some off tthe tthiings Cheryll does,," Call Sttatte Long Beach coach
 " know wou dn a ow some o he h ngs Chery does " Ca S a e Long Beach coach
Joan Bonviiciinii once saiid..
 Joan Bonv c n once sa d
 Cheryl toned her act down considerably when the media spotlight of the 1984 Games was
 on her.
SC coach Chriis Gobrechtt tthiinks tthatt tthe Women off Troy can retturn tto tthe days off gllory,,
 SC coach Chr s Gobrech h nks ha he Women o Troy can re urn o he days o g ory
haviing llanded Harbor Ciitty Narbonne''s Ebony Hofffman..
 hav ng anded Harbor C y Narbonne s Ebony Ho man
 Hoffman may be a great like Miller, but she is a reserved personality who will not create
 the kind of controversy Cheryl did.
          Cheryll''s CIIF record was allmostt broken when Liisa Leslliie off Morniingsiide Hiigh
            Chery s C F record was a mos broken when L sa Les e o Morn ngs de H gh

Schooll iin IIngllewood scored 101 poiintts iin tthe ffiirstt hallff off a 1990 game vs.. Soutth
Schoo n ng ewood scored 101 po n s n he rs ha o a 1990 game vs Sou h

Torrance,, butt tthe Soutth Torrance coach reffused tto alllow tthe tteam tto come outt ffor tthe
Torrance bu he Sou h Torrance coach re used o a ow he eam o come ou or he

second hallff..
second ha

        Love her or hatte her,, one tthiing iis ffor sure:: Cheryll Miilller hellped putt women''s
        Love her or ha e her one h ng s or sure Chery M er he ped pu women s

baskettballll on tthe map.. The WNBA and pllayers lliike Leslliie can tthank Cheryll,, one off tthe
baske ba on he map The WNBA and p ayers ke Les e can hank Chery one o he

piioneers who creatted opporttuniittiies now avaiillablle tto women iin baskettballl..
p oneers who crea ed oppor un es now ava ab e o women n baske ba




                                          BRENT MOORE

                                           Defensive Tackle

1983 - 1985


Most guys at USC were prep All-Americans. Cal told me I could play, they needed me,

but they didn't offer a scholarship. They needed help right away on the line, but go figure,
they want me to come and play but I have to pay my way? John Berry from Walnut

Creek; we were two guys from Northern California who made the same circuit of

recruiting trips. Nebraska, here. So the Cal coach said, "Yeah, we'll let you know. We'll

talk turkey." In this case he offers me a "chance" to walk on. I said, "I'll go to USC." USC

had in the mean time offered me a ride. San Diego State called, but those trips weren't

that great, so I just figured, I'm going to SC.

        I came from Marin County and USC was a real shock for me. Some guy named
Ron Blum was supposed to be the best athlete ever to come out of Marin County. Tom
Zechlin was my coach at San Marin. Marin is where Pete Carroll came from. Now I'm at
a place where guys played at these powerhouses like Mater Dei, Long Beach Poly and
Edison. "Blue chip" superstars who'd played in the most high-profile situations.
       IItt was whatt drrove me.. II was nott a hiigh schooll Allll--Amerriican.. II was underrsiized att
            was wha d ove me was no a h gh schoo A Ame can was unde s zed a

210 pounds.. II grraduatted arround 230 orr 235.. IItt was an uphiilll batttlle alll tthe way.. II had a
210 pounds g adua ed a ound 230 o 235 was an uph ba e a he way had a

chiip on my shoullderr,, butt II brroke my ffoott worrkiing outt iin tthe summerr and had tto siitt ttwo
ch p on my shou de bu b oke my oo wo k ng ou n he summe and had o s wo

weeks and wattch prracttiice.. Fiinalllly II gett outt ttherre and pump mysellff up,, "Hey,, II'm on
weeks and wa ch p ac ce F na y ge ou he e and pump myse up "Hey 'm on

schollarrshiip.. II tthiink II can go wiitth tthese guys.." So whatt diid tthey do? They putt me wiitth tthe
scho a sh p h nk can go w h hese guys " So wha d d hey do? They pu me w h he

wallk--ons.. II spentt tthrree yearrs on tthe scoutt tteam.. John Robiinson was tthe coach and one
wa k ons spen h ee yea s on he scou eam John Rob nson was he coach and one

day Kennedy Polla diives a bllastt att me.. II was att lliinebackerr and II'm brriingiing iitt tto Polla..
day Kennedy Po a d ves a b as a me was a nebacke and 'm b ng ng o Po a

Robiinson says,, "Take iitt easy on hiim.." II''m up agaiinstt Don Mosebarr,, Roy Fostterr,, Brruce
Rob nson says "Take easy on h m " m up aga ns Don Moseba Roy Fos e B uce

Matttthews,, Ken Ruettttgerrs.. II pllayed wiitth hiim iin Grreen Bay.. II prracttiiced agaiinstt tthose guys..
Ma hews Ken Rue ge s p ayed w h h m n G een Bay p ac ced aga ns hose guys

We pllayed Ohiio Sttatte iin tthe 1985 Rose Bowll.. Ruetttgerrs gott reallly good iin tthrree montths..
We p ayed Oh o S a e n he 1985 Rose Bow Rue ge s go rea y good n h ee mon hs

Hiis ttechniique was perrffectt.. II jjustt tthoughtt,, "IIff he doesn'tt kiilll me iin prracttiice,, II'm gonna be
H s echn que was pe ec                 us hough " he doesn' k me n p ac ce 'm gonna be

okay.." He pllayed iin Grreen Bay fforreverr..
okay " He p ayed n G een Bay o eve

          When it came to academics I was fortunate. John Berry was pre-med. He was a

nose guard. Tony Colorito was pre-med. Matt Koart took classes with me. He was gonna

be a lawyer, so we studied a lot. My group had help, but now they have a real set-up for
student athletes. But we were coming off academic probation so they really pushed

academics. I got a business degree.

       USC was great. I recall my freshman year, the Oklahoma game. We were one,

they were two. I grew up an OU fan, so I'm not sure who I was rooting for awhile. I didn't

know SC history, but I was lucky that through Marv Marinovich, when I was a freshman

he hooked me up with Marv Goux. It was his recommendation that got me in. Gil Haskell

recruited me but it was on Marv's recommendation that the offer was made.

I attended Craig Fertig's football camp at Oregon State, where he was the coach at that
time. I would hang out with Marv Marinovich's son, Todd Marinovich. Marv was
married to Craig's sister so that's how the connection was made. I was there in the
summer and Marv Marinovich would have Todd there, and he worked him hard. I spent
several weeks there every summer and got to know Todd very well as he was growing
up, and he was being recruited to SC as I was leaving. I'm pulling for Todd.
The "Five-oh" was our spot. The "Nine-oh" was for the frat guys; we were stuck at the
"Five-oh." Sometimes it was hard to be a student-athlete. I remember the week of the
Notre Dame game some of the coaches, most notably Artie Gigantino said, "I don't want
to see any of those damn textbooks." The focus was on football.
Pete Carroll and I met up here at the Marin County Hall of Fame dinner. I also met him at
"Salute to Troy," where teams from 25 and 50 years before come and are introduced to
the current squad. I just said, "Hi Pete, I'm from San Marin," and he said, "Ooooh, San
Marin, huh!" I'm told he played Pop Warner football in Marin against Dan Fouts. Pete
was with the Redwood Junior Giants, Fouts was with the Drake Junior Pirates, so maybe
Marin's not all that light in football after all.
I'm involved in the Pop Warner program and we play the teams from central Marin and
there's always three or four guys with SC hats, which is the Carroll influence. You know,
I was a spoiled kid from Marin, but I had my eyes open. I was dropped off in Green Bay,
Wisconsin, plus I'm coming from USC, where you pick your cleats off a shelf, but at
Green Bay you have to buy them. USC was a step up from Green Bay, especially back
then. We started 1-9 and that makes everybody freak out. There's a lot of pressure that
goes with that.
In the meanwhile, Colorito goes to Denver and they play in the Super Bowl. When you
win everybody loves everybody. It was culture shock socially, and all the females
seemingly were married at 15 or 18. Basically I did time there. Ruettgers got a house
there, but most just pack it up and are ready to leave at the end of the season, after four or
five months straight of cold.
They had me switch positions five times at Green Bay and then I blew my ACL. I asked
for a release, that's how bad I was willing to go anywhere else, to try again, but they had
a roster limit at camp and I sat the year out. I thought I could go into rec sports and get
through it. Players have a hard time leaving the game. So I retired and discovered
 everybody was working. In life I was behind everybody.
 What It Means to Be a Trojan means that I've grown to love USC. I'm very proud to have
 gone to SC, it was the best thing I've ever done. I played football for the Trojans, played
 in the Rose Bowl. I'm not from a Trojan family. I'm from an Oregon State family, but I
 didn't follow the Pac-10 or SC history.
II gott "sttuck" ttherre,, and whatt a grreatt pllace tto gett sttuck.. As II became morre iintterrestted,, II
    go "s uck" he e and wha a g ea p ace o ge s uck As became mo e n e es ed
can apprreciiatte tthiis,, allll tthe USC peoplle iin so--calllled "Call counttrry,," and tthe band pllays
 can app ec a e h s a he USC peop e n so ca ed "Ca coun y " and he band p ays
Conquestt,, whiich iis tthe mostt Polliittiicallly IIncorrrrectt song iin sporrtts,, depiicttiing tthe Spaniish
 Conques wh ch s he mos Po ca y nco ec song n spo s dep c ng he Span sh
Conquiisttadorrs conquerriing some Azttec viilllage.. Butt tthe song getts my bllood goiing no
 Conqu s ado s conque ng some Az ec v age Bu he song ge s my b ood go ng no
matttterr how many ttiimes II hearr iitt.. By tthe ttiime you''rre a seniiorr you gett a lliitttlle jjaded,, butt iitt
 ma e how many mes hea                      By he me you e a sen o you ge a                       e aded bu
sttiillll getts you,, and wallkiing tthrrough tthe narrrrow Colliiseum ttunnell,, whiich iis allways ttoo shorrtt
 s ge s you and wa k ng h ough he na ow Co seum unne wh ch s a ways oo sho
fforr me,, and tthose lliightts allmostt hiitt my head,, and ttherre's tthe Colliiseum;; tthe crrowd,, tthe
  o me and hose gh s a mos h my head and he e's he Co seum he c owd he
horrse,, tthe band,, tthe collorrs,, tthe Hollllywood siign,, tthe downttown skylliine,, tthe Miirraclle Miille,,
 ho se he band he co o s he Ho ywood s gn he down own sky ne he M ac e M e
tthe mounttaiins and tthe Holllywood hiillls on one siide,, tthe ocean iin tthe diisttance tto tthe westt..
  he moun a ns and he Ho ywood h s on one s de he ocean n he d s ance o he wes
Countt me iin..
 Coun me n

Brentt Moore was iin tthe program ffrom 1981 tto 1985 beffore pllayiing ffor tthe Green
Bren Moore was n he program rom 1981 o 1985 be ore p ay ng or he Green

Bay Packers..
Bay Packers



BIG UNIT WAS BAY AREA BOY OF SUMMER
BIG UNIT WAS BAY AREA BOY OF SUMMER

San Frranciisco Examiinerr,, 2001
San F anc sco Exam ne 2001



PHOENIX – He iis tthe Paull Bunyan off baseballl.. IIn tthe modern day versiion off Daviid vs..
PHOENIX – He s he Pau Bunyan o baseba n he modern day vers on o Dav d vs

Golliiatth,, he iis Golliiatth.. Thiis guy iis nott Everyman.. He iis tto piittchiing whatt Rommell was tto
Go a h he s Go a h Th s guy s no Everyman He s o p ch ng wha Romme was o

desertt combatt,, Chuck Yeager tto aviiattiion,, Eiinstteiin tto quanttum ttheory..
deser comba Chuck Yeager o av a on E ns e n o quan um heory

         Randy Johnson’’s natturall skiillls make hiim sttand outt above and beyond tthe normall,,
         Randy Johnson s na ura sk s make h m s and ou above and beyond he norma

tthe average,, and tthe humdrum..
  he average and he humdrum

        Sttiilll,, tthiis Frankenstteiin off baseballll,, tthiis 6--10 miillliionaiire <II>wunderkiind<//II>
         S           h s Frankens e n o baseba h s 6 10 m ona re < >wunderk nd< >
who iis so diifffferentt,, so skiillled,, so giifftted,, iis iin ffactt very much lliike tthe restt off us..
who s so d eren so sk ed so g ed s n ac very much ke he res o us

         The chaiirr
         The cha

         IItt had been a ffew years siince II llastt saw Randy Johnson,, butt II attttended USC wiitth
              had been a ew years s nce as saw Randy Johnson bu a ended USC w h

hiim,, and when II approached hiim iin tthe llocker room and asked iiff he had a ffew miinuttes,,
h m and when approached h m n he ocker room and asked he had a ew m nu es
he saiid,, “Off course II do..”
he sa d “O course do ”

            Now,, Johnson has a comfforttablle reclliiner nextt tto hiis llocker att Bank One Balllpark
            Now Johnson has a com or ab e rec ner nex o h s ocker a Bank One Ba park

iin Phoeniix,, butt he was nott siitttiing iin iitt..
  n Phoen x bu he was no s ng n

            “Do you miind iiff II siitt here?” II iinquiired..
            “Do you m nd          s here?” nqu red
            He nodded “sure,,” and so II diid..
            He nodded “sure ” and so d d
      Apparenttlly,, tthe reclliiner iis nott avaiillablle tto jjustt anybody.. Piittcher Miike Morgan
       Apparen y he rec ner s no ava ab e o us anybody P cher M ke Morgan
dropped by,, opened a nearby reffriigerattor,, and offfered me a beer..
dropped by opened a nearby re r gera or and o ered me a beer
      “No tthanks,,” II saiid.. Gee,, whatt a niice guy..
       “No hanks ” sa d Gee wha a n ce guy
            “Can II gett you a sandwiich?” asks Matttt Wiillliiams..
            “Can ge you a sandw ch?” asks Ma W ams
            Waiitt a miinutte!! II am gettttiing gooffed on by tthe Diiamondbacks..
            Wa a m nu e am ge ng goo ed on by he D amondbacks
            “II’’m nott supposed tto be siittttiing iin your chaiir,, am II?” II ask tthe Biig Uniitt..
            “ m no supposed o be s ng n your cha r am ?” ask he B g Un
            He smiilles..
            He sm es
            “You know whatt?” he says.. “Us Trojjans sttiick ttogetther.. You can siitt anywhere you
            “You know wha ?” he says “Us Tro ans s ck oge her You can s anywhere you
lliike..”
    ke ”
            You gottta llove tthe Good Oll’’ Boy Nettwork.. II conductt tthe iintterviiew,, whiich llastts tthe
             You go a ove he Good O Boy Ne work conduc he n erv ew wh ch as s he
betttter partt off 45 miinuttes,, siitttiing iin tthe reclliiner..
 be er par o 45 m nu es s ng n he rec ner
            IItt eventtualllly gott so comfforttablle II allmostt ttolld Morgan tthatt II had reconsiidered tthatt
                 even ua y go so com or ab e a mos o d Morgan ha had recons dered ha
offffer off a colld brew..
 o er o a co d brew
            The conversattiion centters nott on Johnson’’s greatt career sttattiisttiics,, or “whatt iis iitt
             The conversa on cen ers no on Johnson s grea career s a s cs or “wha s
lliike tto be Randy Johnson?”,, whiich seems tto be tthe semii--boriing ffocus off 99 percentt off
    ke o be Randy Johnson?” wh ch seems o be he sem bor ng ocus o 99 percen o
modern--day sportts iintterviiews.. Att lleastt nott tthe Randy Johnson we see on TV.. No,, iitt iis ttiime
 modern day spor s n erv ews A eas no he Randy Johnson we see on TV No                                    s me
tto ttake a ttriip down Memory Lane,, tto The Biig Uniitt’’s rootts..
   o ake a r p down Memory Lane o The B g Un s roo s


            Berrcoviich Furrniitturre
            Be cov ch Fu n u e

            When tthe pundiittocracy off baseballl ttallks aboutt a guy’’s background,, tthey offtten
            When he pund ocracy o baseba a ks abou a guy s background hey o en

reffer tto tthe hiigh schooll he pllayed att.. Hiigh schooll baseballl iis very much a riitte off passage,,
re er o he h gh schoo he p ayed a H gh schoo baseba s very much a r e o passage

as Ameriican as applle piie.. However,, iitt may nott be tthe pllace where a baseballl pllayer bestt
as Amer can as app e p e However may no be he p ace where a baseba p ayer bes

hones hiis buddiing skiillls.. The prep season usuallly sttartts when tthe weatther iis collder,,
hones h s budd ng sk s The prep season usua y s ar s when he wea her s co der

wettter.. The season goes aboutt 30 games,, giive or ttake,, and outtsiide iintterestts lliike schooll,,
we er The season goes abou 30 games g ve or ake and ou s de n eres s ke schoo

giirlls,, ffriiends,, and clliiques can encroach on ones’’ concenttrattiion..
g r s r ends and c ques can encroach on ones concen ra on
            Summer balll iis where progress iis made.. IItt can be Ameriican Legiion,, Conniie
              Summer ba s where progress s made can be Amer can Leg on Conn e
Mack,, Joe DiiMaggiio or Seniior Babe Rutth League.. Kiids pllay more games tthan duriing tthe
 Mack Joe D Magg o or Sen or Babe Ru h League K ds p ay more games han dur ng he
hiigh schooll season.. They ttravell,, tthey fface greatt compettiittiion,, and tthe tteam iittsellff offtten
 h gh schoo season They rave hey ace grea compe on and he eam se o en
draws ffrom a llarger popullattiion base tthan tthe schooll,, makiing ffor an “area alll--sttar”
 draws rom a arger popu a on base han he schoo mak ng or an “area a s ar”
conceptt..
 concep
            The weatther iis warm.. The pllayers have ffewer diisttracttiions iin tthe summer.. They
              The wea her s warm The p ayers have ewer d s rac ons n he summer They
are more skiillled by Augustt tthan tthey were iin May..
 are more sk ed by Augus han hey were n May
            Years ago,, tthere was a tteam iin Ballttiimore callled Mama Leone’’s.. The sponsor was,,
              Years ago here was a eam n Ba more ca ed Mama Leone s The sponsor was
as you can guess,, an IIttalliian resttaurantt.. Reggiie Jackson pllayed ffor Leone’’s.. Sportts
 as you can guess an a an res auran Regg e Jackson p ayed or Leone s Spor s
IIllllusttratted wrotte an arttiiclle aboutt tthem.. Today,, iiff you are a ttop prospectt iin Soutthern
      us ra ed wro e an ar c e abou hem Today you are a op prospec n Sou hern
Calliifforniia,, you miightt ttravell 30 miilles or so tto pllay ffor Long Beach’’s Conniie Mack tteam
 Ca orn a you m gh rave 30 m es or so o p ay or Long Beach s Conn e Mack eam
att Bllaiir Fiielld,, or tthe Orange Countty Dogs..
 a B a r F e d or he Orange Coun y Dogs
            IIn tthe 1970s and ‘‘80s,, such a tteam pllayed hard,, ffastt baseballl att Laney Collllege iin
               n he 1970s and 80s such a eam p ayed hard as baseba a Laney Co ege n
Oaklland,, and on dustty balll ffiiellds ffrom one end off tthe Bay Area tto tthe otther – and
 Oak and and on dus y ba e ds rom one end o he Bay Area o he o her – and
beyond..
 beyond
            They were callled Bercoviich Furniitture.. IIff tthatt name sounds ffamiilliiar,, iitt iis because
              They were ca ed Bercov ch Furn ure                   ha name sounds am ar              s because
Mr.. Bercoviich,, who ran a ffurniitture sttore ((and maybe a ffew otther tthiings)) was a cllose,,
 Mr Bercov ch who ran a urn ure s ore and maybe a ew o her h ngs was a c ose
personall ffriiend off Raiiders’’ owner All Daviis.. Whenever ttallk woulld break outt aboutt new
 persona r end o Ra ders owner A Dav s Whenever a k wou d break ou abou new
sttadiium ffiinanciing,, or a re--shufffflliing off tthe ownershiip group,, tthiis guy Berkoviich’’s name
 s ad um nanc ng or a re shu ng o he ownersh p group h s guy Berkov ch s name
woulld pop up.. You never saw hiis piictture.. He was nott a mediia dude,, butt he was a mover
 wou d pop up You never saw h s p c ure He was no a med a dude bu he was a mover
and a shaker..
 and a shaker
            Maybe he owned some lland,, or had some parkiing llotts tthatt coulld be convertted
              Maybe he owned some and or had some park ng o s ha cou d be conver ed
iintto tthe Raiiders new ffoottballl pallace.. Whattever.. He had money,, he lloved sportts,, and he
   n o he Ra ders new oo ba pa ace Wha ever He had money he oved spor s and he
was connectted tto tthe powers--tthatt--be..
 was connec ed o he powers ha be
            He allso lliiked tto see young atthllettes prosper..
              He a so ked o see young a h e es prosper
            Berkoviich had tthe dough.. Ray Luce knew tthe game.. Luce had passiion ffor iitt.. Luce
              Berkov ch had he dough Ray Luce knew he game Luce had pass on or Luce

ran Berkoviich Furniitture ffor years.. Offtten,, tthey pllayed doublle--headers – iin diiffferentt ciittiies..
ran Berkov ch Furn ure or years O en hey p ayed doub e headers – n d eren c es

Maybe an afftternoon game att Laney,, tthen a niighttcap iin Wallnutt Creek.. Heck,, tthey pllayed
Maybe an a ernoon game a Laney hen a n gh cap n Wa nu Creek Heck hey p ayed

ttrriiplle--headers.. Bettween Memoriiall Day and Labor Day,, Luce’’s tteam miightt pllay 120
      p e headers Be ween Memor a Day and Labor Day Luce s eam m gh p ay 120

games!!
games

          Luce loved baseball and kids. He liked to be around them. The guys who played

for him swear by him. One of those guys was a very tall, thin southpaw who had been

born in Walnut Creek, and was pitching at Livermore High School.

        “Yeah, we’d play three games a day,” recalled Johnson. “We’d play in Hayward,
we’d play in Oakland. We’d play wherever there was a game and a team to play against.
It was a Bay Area All-Star team. Jack Del Rio played for us. Don Wakematsu, Doug
Henry, Kevin Maas. We had guys from Berkeley. Guys would travel to play, or move in
from outside the area.”
        Wakematsu and Henry were stars at Tennyson High in Hayward who went on star
at Arizona State. Henry, of course, has been a top relief pitcher for years, including
productive seasons with the Giants. Del Rio starred in baseball, basketball and football
at Hayward High, and led Southern Cal to the 1985 Rose Bowl victory before playing
linebacker for the Minnesota Vikings.
        Mass, from Oakland’s Bishop O’Dowd High School, played at the University of
California and, for a couple of seasons at Yankee Stadium in the early 1990s, looked like
the next Babe Ruth.
        “It was the best team I’ve ever been on,” says Johnson, obviously making this
reference within context. “The caliber of ball was excellent, and it was a lot of fun.”
        Another Bay Area left-hander, Bill “Spaceman” Lee, once made a similar
statement when he said the best team he ever saw was “either the 1968 USC Trojans, or
any Taiwan little league team.” Space did concede that the 1975 Cincinnati Reds could
compete in this league, as well.
        Speaking of USC, that is where Mr. Johnson went next. You hear about these
players who turn down millions of George Steinbrenner’s or Ted Turner’s dollars to play
college ball at USC or Stanford. This must have been the case for Randy, right?
        Not quite.
        “Johnson was not the best pitcher on the team,” says former Berkovich teammate
Bruno Caravalho, who also played with him at USC.
        “Luce would have us travel all over the Bay Area,” says Johnson, “and beyond

the Bay Area. We’d go to the Wine Country, the Central Valley, anywhere. My Dad

would often drive me. It was a bit of a haul, but Dad would take me to the games. I really

appreciate my Dad. He played mostly rec league softball, but he saw that I had potential

ability.

           “Luce was mostly a good organizer. He wasn’t the greatest manager I ever

played for, but there’s no doubt he knew how to put a good team together.”


           Livermore: Cy Young award capitol

           Livermore, California is a place known mostly for its laboratory, where nuclear

weapons are worked on by government scientists. Other than that, it is just down the road

from Altamont, where The Rolling Stones’ held their infamous free concert in 1970,

which resulted in a Hell’s Angel stabbing a fan.

           Today, it has become a bedroom community, and BART makes it easier for its
residents to commute to San Francisco or Oakland.
       “It was a small town,” recalls Johnson. “At least, it seemed like a small town. It’s
40 or 50,000, but it’s a place where you are removed from city life. It was pretty rural.”
       The Big Unit was more of farm boy type, not a sophisticate from the San

Francisco Bay Area. He reflected what Livermore was all about. Still, little old

Livermore has produced more Cy Young awards than any town of comparable size in

America. Sure, Johnson has three, but Mark Davis, a left-hander out of Granada High,

won one in 1989 at San Diego.

“I never thought about that,” says Johnson. “I remember when Davis was at Granada,
that was a few years before me, and I’d go to see him pitch.”
Johnson went 4-4 at Livermore High in 1982, but the Cowboys did not give him much
support. His 1.65 ERA and 121 strikeouts in 66 1/3 innings pitched in 1982 landed him
All-East Bay Athletic League and All-County honors. Atlanta (yes, Turner’s team) made
him their fourth round draft choice. USC came around with a scholarship offer.


"I thought he was a little wacky."

       Johnson discussed his future with his dad. They both knew that he was a work in

progress, a project.

         Heck, this guy was the Hoover Damn. The Tennessee Valley Authority. The
Pyramids.
         Minor league baseball might have eaten him alive, so it was decided that the
University of Southern California, a national powerhouse led by the greatest collegiate
coach of all times, Raoul “Rod” Dedeaux, would be the best place for him to hone not
just his diamond skills, but his life skills, too.
         Dedeaux, winner of 10 National Championships, is to his sport what John
Wooden is to his. This guy is a genius, right? He must be a coach who combined the
discipline of Vince Lombardi, the tact of Mike Krzyzewski, and the strategic thinking
of…Napoleon.
         “I thought he was kind of wacky,” says Randy.
         Some guys just hang on too long, and that seems to have been Rod’s case.
         “He was the best baseball man I ever played for,” said Lee, who starred at USC
15 years before Johnson arrived. “He didn’t look like a ballplayer, but he had eyes in the
back of his head. He knew every play that would happen before it happened. He was in
the seventh inning when the game was in the third.”
         “Rod never really was on hand,” says Johnson of the Dedeaux he played for.
(Assistant coach) “Keith Brown ran the program. I mean, he surrounded himself with
good baseball people, and he was a fun guy who I enjoyed playing for. I still run into Rod
in LA and it’s always nice to see him.”
        After playing a couple years of minor league ball, I was finishing up my degree at
USC during this period. While Dedeaux was at the top of his game during Spaceman’s
era, he was pushing retirement during the Unit’s time. Dedeaux, a millionaire trucking
executive who “moonlighted” as SC’s coach for a dollar a year out of love, had never
been a full-time collegiate coach. By the 1980s, I recall him showing up for games late,
sometimes after attending a cocktail party.
        Still, the Trojans had one of the most talented college baseball teams ever

assembled. Aside from Johnson, the Trojans had a first baseman named Mark McGwire.

        In the entire history of this great game, it can be argued that the most intimidating
offensive player ever is McGwire, and the most intimidating pitcher is Johnson.
       So, naturally, facing mere college opponents wearing uniforms that read
“UCLA,” “Arizona State” and “Fresno State,” these two larger-than-life diamond gods
led Troy to unheard of heights of glory!?
       Actually, they lost in the NCAA Regionals – when they even made the play-offs.
        “I wished I’d learned more,” Johnson says of his college career (1983-85). “I
was still a project when I left.”
       The project was also a lefty. A California lefty. The connotations of what this
means go back a long way. Rodeo’s Lefty Gomez, aside from being a Hall of Famer with
the Yankees, was known as “El Goofy”.
Spaceman was, well, Spaceman…the King of Flaky Lefties.
       It is hard to pin Johnson down, but Dedeaux recalls him this way: “Randy was

one of the most colorful personalities in college baseball,” says the man who, now

retired, is still a familiar figure at SC and Dodger games. “But he also had the ability to

go along with it. He was an excellent competitor, and had a Major League fastball. He

always provided an exciting performance.”

       Johnson may not have been Mark Fydrych, or even Turk Wendell, but he was a

team cheerleader who attracted attention on the hill. He would talk to himself, frequently

ran around the infield shouting encouragement to teammates, and congratulated himself

for good pitches.

       Big Mac was all he was cracked up to be, a two-time All-American, College
Player of the Year in 1984, and an Olympian. It was not just Mac and the Unit, either.
Del Rio was a catcher on those teams, and a good ballplayer, too. Pitcher Sid Akins was
an Olympian. Brad Brink would pitch in the big leagues. Randy Robertson and Mickey
Meister were talented, hard-throwing right-handers. Phil Smith and lefty Bob
Gunnarsson were tough pitchers. Even the pitching coach, Bill Bordley, had pitched in
the Majors and had once been considered the best college pitcher ever (today, Bordley is
a Secret Service agent who was assigned the Chelsea Clinton detail at Stanford).
       Aside from McGwire, SC had offense, in the form of third baseman Craig

Stevenson, spray-hitting outfielder Alby Silvera, and power threats Reggie Montgomery

and John Wallace.

       With all this talent at his disposal, Dedeaux could not get his club into the NCAAs

in 1983, and they were blown out in the Regionals the next two seasons. After going 5-0

as a freshman, Johnson was statistically mediocre in 1984 and ‘85, and this reflected his

team’s enigmatic performance.

       “I never gave that much thought to the fact that Mac and I were teammates,” says
Johnson, “and now we’re so-called `dominant’ players. He’s a home run threat now, and
he was then. He has size, and ability.
        “The fact we didn’t get into the College World Series was disappointing. You
need pitching. We had talented pitchers – Akins, Brinks, Meister, Gunnarsson – but we
didn’t pitch well in the Regionals. We were not as outstanding as you have to be to win at
that level. Pitching wins games. I had height and ability, but I was a long way from where
I am now.”



A rapport with other power pitchers

       Johnson’s professional career is well documented. He pitched for Montreal, and

came into his own in Seattle. He has dominated the game in a way few pitchers ever

have, and he also had a connection with power pitchers of previous eras.

        “I talk to Tom Seaver when the Mets come to town,” says Johnson. Seaver

starred at USC before becoming a superstar with the Mets, and now is a TV broadcaster

in New York.
       “I talked to Nolan Ryan a few times. I have rapport with guys like that. They have
the same make-up that I do. As a pitcher, if you have the ability to talk to guys who’ve
been there before you, that’s just great. I’ve seen Sandy Koufax a few times, too, and
admire him because his career has some parallels to mine.”
        Today, another Trojan lefty, Barry Zito, has hit the scene with the sudden impact
not of the “project” Johnson, but more reminiscent of the 21-year old Vida Blue. The
young pitcher who interests Johnson more, because of the parallel, is St. Louis’
hard-throwing Rick Ankiel.
       “He’s proven that he’s a fine pitcher,” says Johnson, “he pitched great until the
post-season. It’s nothing that can’t be worked on.”
       The Cardinals must be patient with Ankiel. Not everybody was so patient with
Johnson when he was pitching at Jamestown, West Palm Beach, and Jacksonville. After
going 0-4 at Montreal in 1989, the Expos decided he was expendable.
       If they had been more patient, like the Dodgers were with Koufax, they could have
reaped the benefits of having one of the game’s greatest pitchers starring for them.
       Still, hindsight is always 20/20. Johnson is in his zone now. He is happily married
and raising his family in Paradise Valley, not far from the BOB. He is low-key and
thoughtful.
         He might even let you sit in his chair. If he does, make sure you tell his teammates

that you only drink imported beer.




                                              JEFF BREGEL
                                              JEFF BREGEL

Offffensiive Guard
O ens ve Guard
1983 -- 1986
1983 1986


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   was a wo me consensus A Ame can bu sho up and p ayed w h a o o pa n

hurrtt my back att Sttanfforrd Sttadiium befforre tthe Eastt--Westt Shrriine game.. II llett my abdomiinalls
hu my back a S an o d S ad um be o e he Eas Wes Sh ne game e my abdom na s

gett outt off shape and have a congeniittall condiittiion.. II had tthiis tthiing tthatt crracked allll tthe way
ge ou o shape and have a congen a cond on had h s h ng ha c acked a he way

tto llevell grrade--ttwo.. II compllaiined aboutt iitt butt tthey drropped my rrattiing iin tthe combiine and II
  o eve g ade wo comp a ned abou bu hey d opped my a ng n he comb ne and

was drrafftted iin tthe second rround afftterr II was lliistted as hurrtt.. II earrned ttwo Superr Bowll rriings
was d a ed n he second ound a e was s ed as hu                                 ea ned wo Supe Bow ngs

iin San Frranciisco,, butt tthe wholle ttiime my spiine was ffused.. Afftterr II compllaiined aboutt iitt II
  n San F anc sco bu he who e me my sp ne was used A e comp a ned abou

had surrgerry.. Drr.. Arrtthurr Whiitte perrfforrmed tthe prrocedurre.. Latterr he gott iin ttrroublle wiitth
had su ge y D A hu Wh e pe o med he p ocedu e La e he go n oub e w h
some pattiientt,, butt he was tthe 49errs'' docttorr.. II coulld wrriitte a grreatt book on my own!! II have
some pa en bu he was he 49e s doc o cou d w e a g ea book on my own have

a ffrriiend,, Bob Case,, who owns one off tthe bestt sporrtts memorrabiilliia colllecttiions iin tthe worrlld..
a end Bob Case who owns one o he bes spo s memo ab a co ec ons n he wo d

Bettween hiis colllecttiion and my memorriies II''d have a llott..
Be ween h s co ec on and my memo es d have a o

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              was an Academ c A Ame can and ma n a ned a ve y h gh g ade po n ave age

att USC.. II was prrettty diisciiplliined,, morre so tthrrough ffoottballl.. The schedulle became a
a USC was p e y d sc p ned mo e so h ough oo ba The schedu e became a

rrouttiine and iitt was a welll--rrun prrogrram.. Ted Tolllnerr ttook iitt serriiouslly.. II excellled iin tthe
  ou ne and was a we un p og am Ted To ne ook se ous y exce ed n he

busiiness schooll.. Some cllasses,, lliike antthrropollogy,, II diidn'tt carre fforr,, butt tthe ffiinance cllasses
bus ness schoo Some c asses ke an h opo ogy d dn' ca e o bu he nance c asses

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fforr a biig ttestt..
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       ked he bus ness s de and knew was gonna be n some h ng ke bus ness secu es
anallysiis,, and allso rreall esttatte iinvesttmentts and lliike securriittiies.. II know how tto vallue a
 ana ys s and a so ea es a e nves men s and ke secu es know how o va ue a
company and have been doiing alll tthatt tthe pastt siix yearrs.. II''ve been iin morrttgage
 company and have been do ng a ha he pas s x yea s ve been n mo gage
consullttiing.. II do splliitts--and--rrefferrrralls.. IItt's been a grrowtth perriiod fforr me..
 consu ng do sp s and e e a s 's been a g ow h pe od o me
Att age 44 II shoulld have been morre successffull,, butt once ffoottballl was overr II was
 A age 44 shou d have been mo e success u bu once oo ba was ove was
 dep essed t d dn' wo k ou he way hough wou d had a ea v s on o whe e my
deprressed.. IIt diidn'tt worrk outt tthe way II tthoughtt iitt woulld.. II had a rreall viisiion off wherre my
carreerr woulld go,, butt my back iinjjurry caused prrobllems.. II'm overr alll tthatt now,, and II''m
 ca ee wou d go bu my back n u y caused p ob ems 'm ove a ha now and m
gettttiing rrollliing ffiinanciiallly.. II gott a llott outt off busiiness schooll and have knowlledge tthatt
 ge ng o ng nanc a y go a o ou o bus ness schoo and have know edge ha
prrobablly can allllow me tto worrk fforr severrall diifffferrentt companiies..
 p obab y can a ow me o wo k o seve a d e en compan es
II saw Coach Carrrrollll iin May 2008 att tthe Rod Sherrman ffanttasy camp,, and II see tthatt
    saw Coach Ca o n May 2008 a he Rod She man an asy camp and see ha
prrogrram off Trojjan Rewiind and Carrrrollll rreallly does iitt lliike a rrealliitty show.. IItt's jjustt lliike tthe
 p og am o Tro an Rew nd and Ca o ea y does                                   ke a ea y show 's us ke he
season..
 season
 Ted Tollner, I loved him. He was a big Jeff Bregel fan. I started four years and was
 always improving as a player. Ted's son, Bruce is a big sports attorney and sports agent
 now, I think he's with Leigh Steinberg and handles top prospects. His daughter Tammy
 was in school then, too. I'm not sure what she did. She was in a sorority and was pretty
 good-looking. I think she got married after college.
 Pete Carroll was with the 49ers after I left. I left the Niners on bad terms from my back
 surgery. They rushed me out when I was in pain and was not in good shape. I said I
 wanted to just end it. Maybe I jumped the gun. Later, without all my football routines, it
 was a difficult transition.
 I heard a lot about Coach Carroll when I was in the NFL. They all talked a lot about him
 and you knew he would go on to bigger and better things. Mike Holmgren was our
 offensive coordinator. He loved SC guys; he'd been a quarterback there in the '60s. We
 had a lot of Trojans; Riki Ellison, Ronnie Lott, and we had great camaraderie. Things
 changed as we switched head coaches from Bill Walsh to George Seifert. He was less
 personable. I knew Jim Plunkett when I was in the Bay Area. Mike found his path in
 coaching, he won the Super Bowl with Green Bay and now he's with the Seahawks, but
I'm told that when Mike was a high school quarterback in San Francisco he was
considered the far greater prospect than Plunkett, who was at another Bay Area school at
the same time. Joe Montana was my teammate. He recently moved his kid to Oaks
Christian High and there was a competition for quarterback there between Montana's kid
and Wayne Gretzky's kid. There's something "only in L.A." about that. He was a great
teammate.
I met a lot of great folks at USC. We'd hang out at the old 502 Club. Jerry Buss's
daughter was there, I think. I think she went with some SAE guy. I was there with Jack
Nicholson's daughter, Jennifer. That place was incredible. It was across from Webb
Tower. The girls would find us there. We'd go to the 901 for the hotties, the sorority girls.
 The football tradition at USC is such that when something goes wrong, they correct it.
After Tollner and Larry Smith, they turned it around and put on a show. Carroll has
created a great advantage, a great program, and with recruiting he's gotten back to the
traditions, the Heismans, the linemen; the days of Ron Yary winning the Outland Trophy,
Brad Budde won the Lombardi. The list of All-Americans on that campus was unreal. We
joked if SC was in the same neighborhood as UCLA, it would turn the screws on
recruiting. Now the campus has improved, it's cleaner, the smog's been cleared, and the
whole neighborhood from STAPLES Center to Galen Center is safer, and they have safe
housing down by the Coliseum where in my day you didn't think of going. This has
happened just as recruiting's become the best in the country, and that's because the
campus is so much better and Carroll created an atmosphere that's just great for that team.
I give Carroll credit for going into the inner city to try and make things better, but
honestly that's gotten worse, but he tries.
Usually the USC-Notre Dame thing is the rivalry that evokes the most passions among
the guys in pro football, because there's more players from those two schools than
anybody else. Ronnie would get on Joe, Joe would razz me, but I was a part-time starter
so I was not as much in the mix. With Joe around, and others, we'd have the same effect
on each other talking about the rivalry. It was really neat at team meetings, or we'd watch
games on TV in the hotel on Saturday before games the next day. There wasn't any
serious betting but there was good-natured ribbing. It was fun; "We're gonna do it . . .
we're gonna beat you guys."
The difference between pro and college; between USC and Notre Dame, or with UCLA;
we all had great athletes back then. Oregon was not a powerhouse. Oregon State was at
the bottom of the Pac-10. You play against some inferior guys in college, but in the NFL
everybody has burners. The pass rushers move around well. The big difference is in the
quality of opponents week in week out. Practice was a stepping stone for those types of
games.
I was on the sidelines when we beat Cincinnati in the 1989 Super Bowl. I had a bum
knee, my ACL needed to be repaired. We beat the Redskins to get there. I'd gotten hurt
against San Diego blocking against Keith Browner, a Trojan teammate of mine with the
Chargers. It was a trap play. I blocked out the other guard but he rolled into me and we
got jumbled. In my third year I had started but then had back problems.
I've been trying to help this doctor who has a fantasy camp for the living heart
foundation. He does these screenings so it helps out guys. I've helped him set up several
conventions. We do screenings for ex-NFLplayers. I'm told the average age of death for
NFL guys is 56 or something. Lots of guys have good medical care but not all. The
glamour of pro football gives way to this life after the game and the burdens of ill health
are the price we pay.
San Francisco was great but it was nothing like USC. I go to re-unions once in while, but
pro football is nothing like "Salute to Troy." I see all these guys I played with or were
alums. It's funny, the girls go from the "glory girls" at SC, the song girls, to basically
groupies in pro football, girls hanging out in hotel lobbies. I've heard it said and I don’t
disagree, that life as an elite athlete at SC, not just football but baseball, track, you know .
. . that it's a better life, better-looking women, more adoration, than it is not just in the
minor leagues, but in some "big league" towns, say Milwaukee or someplace. You can
see why Matt Leinart would rather be a fifth-year senior at USC and live in an apartment
called "the bean" when he could have a million bucks in some pro city.
Baseball players at USC had a blast, too. I knew a lot, many of 'em were friends, and
guys like Rodney Peete also played baseball. USC's been to the College World Series
many times. Rod Dedeaux was there when I was there and I know his son Justin, who I
think was helping out.


Jeff Bregel was a two-time consensus All-American offensive guard (1985-86). A

member of the 1984 team that won the Rose Bowl, he was also an Academic

All-American, twice a member of the Playboy Pre-Season All-American team, and

played in the 1986 East-West Shrine Game. Bregel played for the San Francisco

49ers and earned two Super Bowl rings as a member of the 1988 and '89 world

champions.



                                                REX MOORE
                                                REX MOORE

Insiide Liinebacker
Ins de L nebacker
1984 -- 1987
1984 1987

USC was good mes and good ends was he 502 C ub t was eamma es
USC was good ttiimes and good ffrriiends.. IItt was tthe 502 Cllub.. IIt was tteammattes..

         Brrentt Moorre,, a deffensiive end,, was a rreall good ffrriiend.. II've sttayed iin ttouch wiitth
         B en Moo e a de ens ve end was a ea good end 've s ayed n ouch w h

hiim.. He pllayed fforr tthe Packerrs.. Brrentt was a rreall ffrree spiirriitt,, an iinttellllecttuall who made
h m He p ayed o he Packe s B en was a ea ee sp                                   an n e ec ua who made

good grrades.. We had a ffew guys wiitth a rreall academiic ffocus,, butt iitt was nott a prriiorriitty fforr a
good g ades We had a ew guys w h a ea academ c ocus bu was no a p o y o a

llott off us.. Foottballll was my ttop prriiorriitty.. Brrentt and some ottherr guys ffrrom Norrttherrn
  o o us Foo ba was my op p o y B en and some o he guys om No he n
Calliifforrniia;; John Berrrry was a llott lliike tthatt..
Ca o n a John Be y was a o ke ha

Brrentt iis ffrrom Marriin Countty,, and tthatt's wherre Pette Carrrrolll iis ffrrom.. Therre arre siimiillarriittiies II
 B en s om Ma n Coun y and ha 's whe e Pe e Ca o s om The e a e s m a es
see iin ttheiirr perrsonalliittiies,, and you can arrgue tthatt maybe ttheiirr apprroach worrks bestt iin
 see n he pe sona es and you can a gue ha maybe he app oach wo ks bes n
ffoottballll.. Some off us ffrrom tthe Soutthlland werre ffrrom tthe olld schooll,, ttough--as--naiills schooll..
    oo ba Some o us om he Sou h and we e om he o d schoo ough as na s schoo
Tiim Grreen was tthe olld schooll,, a quarrtterrback wiitth a lliinebackerr's menttalliitty.. He was an
 T m G een was he o d schoo a qua e back w h a nebacke 's men a y He was an
enttrreprreneurr who had a moviing company iin Pasadena,, tthen he wentt back tto schooll tto
 en ep eneu who had a mov ng company n Pasadena hen he wen back o schoo o
become an arrchiittectt,, and now he has an arrchiittectturrall ffiirrm iin Los Angelles.. He was tthe
 become an a ch ec and now he has an a ch ec u a m n Los Ange es He was he
co--Mostt Valluablle Pllayerr iin tthe 1985 Rose Bowll..
 co Mos Va uab e P aye n he 1985 Rose Bow
Kennedy Polla was a heck off a warrrriiorr and a rreall Trrojjan.. He gott iintto coachiing
 Kennedy Po a was a heck o a wa o and a ea T o an He go n o coach ng
II lliive iin tthe Newporrtt Beach arrea,, Corrona Dell Marr.. II'm a nurrsiing home admiiniisttrrattorr and
       ve n he Newpo Beach a ea Co ona De Ma 'm a nu s ng home adm n s a o and
rrun ffoottballll camps.. II had some iinjjurriies and maybe II coulld have had a prro carreerr,, butt II''m
    un oo ba camps had some n u es and maybe cou d have had a p o ca ee bu m
okay wiitth iitt and USC was tthe bestt experriience off my lliiffe..
 okay w h and USC was he bes expe ence o my e
IIn 1984 II was a back up.. II sttarrtted ttwo games because tthe guy iin ffrrontt off me was iinjjurred..
    n 1984 was a back up s a ed wo games because he guy n on o me was n u ed
Butt II had pllayed some durriing my "rred--shiirrtt" yearr iin 1983.. Keiitth Biiggerrs was iin ffrrontt off
 Bu had p ayed some du ng my " ed sh " yea n 1983 Ke h B gge s was n on o
me.. Hiis sttrrengtths werre my weaknesses my weaknesses werre hiis sttrrengtths.. II ffiillled tthe
 me H s s eng hs we e my weaknesses my weaknesses we e h s s eng hs                                       ed he
miiddlle.. He was morre a siidelliine--tto--siidelliine pllayerr.. He was somettiimes ttoo ffastt and woulld
 m dd e He was mo e a s de ne o s de ne p aye He was some mes oo as and wou d
gett beyond tthe poiintt off attttack..
 ge beyond he po n o a ack
Jack Dell Riio was morre tthan a grreatt pllayerr.. He was a grreatt tteammatte and champiion.. He
 Jack De R o was mo e han a g ea p aye He was a g ea eamma e and champ on He
deffiiniittelly was a lleaderr on ourr tteam and tthe deffense.. When he spoke everrybody lliisttened..
 de n e y was a eade on ou eam and he de ense When he spoke eve ybody s ened
IItt was lliike Dean Wiitttterr.. II llooked tto Jack lliike we’’d llook tto guys lliike Riikii Ellliison.. Those
      was ke Dean W e                  ooked o Jack ke we d ook o guys ke R k E son Those
guys he pllayed wiitth,, he connectted us tthrrough Jack.. II rroott fforr tthe Jaguarrs because off Jack
 guys he p ayed w h he connec ed us h ough Jack oo o he Jagua s because o Jack
and Kennedy Polla,, whose wiitth hiim iin Jacksonviilllle.. IIff II saw hiim iitt's lliike olld warr vetts,, we
 and Kennedy Po a whose w h h m n Jacksonv e                                saw h m 's ke o d wa ve s we
jjustt piick up wherre we llefftt offff.. II have a llott off rrespectt and admiirrattiion fforr hiim.. He was a
   us p ck up whe e we e o                   have a o o espec and adm a on o h m He was a
ffiierrce pllayerr who had rreall desiirre.. Thatt iis tthe sttandarrd..
     e ce p aye who had ea des e Tha s he s anda d
Grreen was lliike a lliinebackerr iin tthe quarrtterrback posiittiion,, a guy you wantted iin tthe ffoxholle
 G een was ke a nebacke n he qua e back pos on a guy you wan ed n he oxho e
nextt tto you,, iin a darrk alllley,, when tthe bombs go offff.. II was attttrractted tto hiim as a tteammatte
 nex o you n a da k a ey when he bombs go o                              was a ac ed o h m as a eamma e
because off tthose qualliittiies..
 because o hose qua es
Sean Salliisburry was a drrop--back quarrtterrback.. Grreen coulld rrun a biitt bettterr.. He was morre
 Sean Sa sbu y was a d op back qua e back G een cou d un a b be e He was mo e
off a ballll conttrroll--ttype quarrtterrback.. Ourr sttylle was,, tthe deffense woulld shutt 'em down.. Frred
 o a ba con o ype qua e back Ou s y e was he de ense wou d shu 'em down F ed
Crruttcherr woulld gett ffourr yarrds.. Frred was a durrablle back.. Tiim woulld pllay wiitthiin tthe
 C u che wou d ge ou ya ds F ed was a du ab e back T m wou d p ay w h n he
systtem.. IIn 1984 he pllayed tthatt way iin ourr biig wiin tthatt yearr,, whiich was att tthe Colliiseum
 sys em n 1984 he p ayed ha way n ou b g w n ha yea wh ch was a he Co seum
agaiinstt numberr one Washiingtton..
 aga ns numbe one Wash ng on
The Huskiies werre awesome,, tthe bestt tteam iin tthe nattiion,, a majjorr colllege powerrhouse,, butt
 The Husk es we e awesome he bes eam n he na on a ma o co ege powe house bu
we rrose up and earrned one off tthe grreatt upsetts iin USC hiisttorry tto beatt tthem,, 16--7,, and tthatt
 we ose up and ea ned one o he g ea upse s n USC h s o y o bea hem 16 7 and ha
gave us tthe confferrence ttiittlle and a ttrriip tto Pasadena..
 gave us he con e ence e and a p o Pasadena
Ted Tollllnerr was ffullll off iinttegrriitty and lloyalltty.. He was a ttough man and II can'tt say enough
 Ted To ne was u o n eg y and oya y He was a ough man and can' say enough
good tthiings aboutt Coach Tolllnerr.. II'm tthankffull and apprreciiattiive tto hiim perrsonalllly,, fforr
 good h ngs abou Coach To ne 'm hank u and app ec a ve o h m pe sona y o
mysellff and as a tteam..
 myse and as a eam
II''m ffrrom tthe schooll off "iiff you have notthiing niice tto say aboutt somebody don'tt say
    m om he schoo o " you have no h ng n ce o say abou somebody don' say
anytthiing.." Lett me jjustt say tthatt Drr.. Miike McGee was tthe atthllettiic diirrecttorr,, and he llacked
 any h ng " Le me us say ha D M ke McGee was he a h e c d ec o and he acked
    espec o Coach To ne d d espec h m t 's ough o be he head coach o any USC
rrespectt fforr Coach Tolllnerr.. II diid rrespectt hiim.. IIt's ttough tto be tthe head coach off any USC
tteam,, and tthe quarrtterrback,, ttoo.. As lloyall as II am tto USC iitt bottherrs me how quiicklly
   eam and he qua e back oo As oya as am o USC bo he s me how qu ck y
allumnii can tturrn on guys.. Ted diid nott gett a ffaiirr shake.. Therre werre key peoplle who llacked
 a umn can u n on guys Ted d d no ge a a shake The e we e key peop e who acked
pattiience
 pa ence
             1986 was a diiffffiiculltt experriience.. UCLA beatt us badlly and we bllew a huge llead iin
             1986 was a d cu expe ence UCLA bea us bad y and we b ew a huge ead n
tthe ffourrtth quarrtterr agaiinstt Nottrre Dame att home.. Everry ttiime you llose parrtt off you diies..
  he ou h qua e aga ns No e Dame a home Eve y me you ose pa o you d es

Adverrsiitty iis;; iitt's whatt champiions do iin adverrsiitty tthatt diifffferrenttiiattes you ffrrom
Adve s y s 's wha champ ons do n adve s y ha d e en a es you om

non--champiions.. Champiions come ttogettherr and Fiightt On!!
non champ ons Champ ons come oge he and F gh On

          Losers are quick, non-champions start to blame each other and the wheels come

off the wagon. We'd hunker down, this was tradition through the ages, it's how we'd deal

with losses and adversity. It's what I tell my team in the youth leagues. Kids today seek

out alibis.

          The toughest opponent for me was UCLA's Gaston Green. In the five years I was

in the program, UCLA beat us three times (1983, 1984, 1986). We beat them in 1985 and

1987. It seems like he always had 200 yards rushing. As a middle linebacker I found him

pretty tough. USC respects them. That's What It Means to Be a Trojan. When a running

back is moving on you, that deflates you and I had to respect his toughness.

          When you'rre 18 iitt's diifffferrentt tthan now,, att 43.. Foottballl was my ffatte,, USC my
          When you' e 18 's d e en han now a 43 Foo ba was my a e USC my

counttrry.. Foottballl was my prriiorriitty.. Now II have ffamiilly prriiorriittiies.. IItt's diifffferrentt now,, II have
coun y Foo ba was my p o y Now have am y p o es 's d e en now have

ffaiitth iin a hiigherr powerr now.. II tthiink aboutt tthe men and women ffiighttiing fforr ourr counttrry..
  a h n a h ghe powe now h nk abou he men and women gh ng o ou coun y

Thiis iis tthe grreattestt counttrry iin tthe worrlld and II llove iitt.. II have my own ffamiilly so some
Th s s he g ea es coun y n he wo d and ove                                   have my own am y so some

tthiings arre down tthe lliistt fforr whatt iis iimporrttantt,, butt II'lll neverr show diislloyalltty fforr my allma
  h ngs a e down he s o wha s mpo an bu ' neve show d s oya y o my a ma

matterr.. II llook att tthese Worrlld Warr IIII guys and II see peoplle who made iitt possiiblle fforr me tto
ma e           ook a hese Wo d Wa guys and see peop e who made poss b e o me o

rraiise my ffamiilly iin tthe lland off tthe ffrree and tthe home off tthe brrave.. Wiitthoutt tthem ttherre iis
  a se my am y n he and o he ee and he home o he b ave W hou hem he e s

no USC,, no ffoottballll..
no USC no oo ba

          1987 was my seniiorr yearr.. We opened wiitth Miichiigan Sttatte on Monday Niightt
          1987 was my sen o yea We opened w h M ch gan S a e on Monday N gh

Foottballll.. We gott beatt and II bllew outt my anklle,, brroke my ffiibulla and miissed tthe wholle
Foo ba We go bea and b ew ou my ank e b oke my bu a and m ssed he who e

yearr.. We had a good yearr as a tteam butt llostt tto Sparrttans agaiin iin tthe Rose Bowll..
yea We had a good yea as a eam bu os o Spa ans aga n n he Rose Bow
       We beat Troy Aikman and UCLA to win the conference when Eric Affholter

caught a touchdown in the end zone. At the half we trailed like 10-0 or 13-0 and we were

at the Bruins' goal line with one play left. Rodney Peete gets intercepted and the guy runs

the field, looking like it's gonna be a touchdown. If they score they're up 20 at the half

and it's over. Rodney chased him 100 yards and tackled him a few yards from our goal,

the gun sounded and they had no chance at a TD or a field goal. Rodney showed his heart

and what he's all about. That turned it around and we won, 17-13.

The difference between the Notre Dane and UCLA rivalry; when I think of Notre Dame I
think of a longer history. There's history on the other side. UCLA's more territorial, it's
between Southern California guys. Even at El Modena, it was a local battle for our
neighborhood against Villa Park; the west side of town was a better neighborhood and the
other side was tougher. I was interested in the tough part of town. That was our history.
It's a fight for respect and territory. The same was true at USC. For me, there was never a
question that I'd go out of the area. I had a brother at Stanford but I was a Southern Cal
guy.
Orange County is considered "Trojan country." It produces the best prep athletes in the
nation. People ask why this is so. It's a combination of things. We have good weather and
it's a middle class community of parents who support their kids and schools. Competition
is not frowned on, winning is not a dirty word. It's a patriotic place where tough coaches
are admired, not fired.
Sports competition makes everybody better. It raises the bar. At USC we practiced hard.
A lot of times on Saturday it was easy compared to the guys I went up against all week.
It's self-fulfilling. More people get attracted to it. Competition raises you to a higher
level.
USC is so special. I've known my wife since the sixth grade. We did not particularly get
along very well, but we had a class near each other at USC. We'd see each other at the
VKC steps and talk. We found out we were not that bad. After class, after a couple of
weeks we'd look forward to seeing each other. We became friends, we'd have lunch after
class, and the next thing we know we fell in love with each other. That along with having
kids has been the biggest paradigm shift in my life.
          Sam Anno, Tim Green. These are good friends. There are some guys I'm not in

touch with, but we went to Hawaii with Tim and his family. Tim McDonald was a great

defensive back. We shared a day on a boat and discovered we liked each other and didn't

want to leave each other's side. I heard that the line, "Show me the money!" from Jerry

Maguire came from Leigh Steinberg asking Tim what motivated him to play, but that guy
would play for nothing. He had a huge heart and was one of the best players I ever played

with. McDonald was a quiet leader.

          The Trrojjan ffamiilly comes ttogettherr.. Therre arre many diifffferrentt demogrraphiics,, butt
          The T o an am y comes oge he The e a e many d e en demog aph cs bu

when you pay tthe prriice ttogettherr iitt bonds you ttogettherr.. IItt's a lliitttlle lliike goiing tto batttlle.. IItt's
when you pay he p ce oge he bonds you oge he 's a                                    e ke go ng o ba e 's

diifffferrentt ffrrom baskettballll orr baseballl.. Therre's a ffearr you go tthrrough,, and tthatt makes tthe
d e en om baske ba o baseba The e's a ea you go h ough and ha makes he

bonds maybe jjustt a lliittttlle clloserr tthan ottherr sporrtts.. The physiicall and menttall demands,, tthe
bonds maybe us a               e c ose han o he spo s The phys ca and men a demands he

adverrsiitty brriings you ttogettherr.. Me,, II rrememberr we had tthiis new jjuke box iin tthe llockerr
adve s y b ngs you oge he Me emembe we had h s new uke box n he ocke

rroom and somebody woulld pllay "Liitttlle Red Corrvettte.." Somebody ellse woulld push a
  oom and somebody wou d p ay "L e Red Co ve e " Somebody e se wou d push a

butttton fforr Wiillliie Nellson.. Therre was tthiis biig ffiightt overr whatt iis pllayed,, butt afftterr tthatt ffiightt
bu on o W e Ne son The e was h s b g gh ove wha s p ayed bu a e ha gh

ttherre was cohesiion.. Afftterr tthe conffrronttattiion we worrked iitt outt amongstt ourrsellves.. You
  he e was cohes on A e he con on a on we wo ked ou amongs ou se ves You

don'tt have tto lliistten one orr tthe ottherr.. We coulld lliistten tto botth..
don' have o s en one o he o he We cou d s en o bo h


Rex Moore was a "bllue chiip" recruiitt whose hiigh expecttattiions were cutt shortt by
Rex Moore was a "b ue ch p" recru whose h gh expec a ons were cu shor by

iinjjuriies,, butt hiis reputtattiion ffor audaciitty and ffoottballl ttoughness are llegend among
  n ur es bu h s repu a on or audac y and oo ba oughness are egend among

hiis tteammattes.. In 1986 Moore won tthe Daviis--Teschke award ffor mostt iinspiirattiionall
h s eamma es In 1986 Moore won he Dav s Teschke award or mos nsp ra ona

pllayer,, as welll as tthe Marv Goux award ((offffense)) ffor greattestt conttriibuttiion iin tthe
p ayer as we as he Marv Goux award o ense or grea es con r bu on n he

UCLA game..
UCLA game



                                             MARTIN CHESLEY
                                             MARTIN CHESLEY

Tiightt End
T gh End
1985,, 1988
1985 1988


How diid a kiid ffrrom a ffamiilly off 10 kiids iin Washiingtton,, D..C.. become a Trrojjan? II came
How d d a k d om a am y o 10 k ds n Wash ng on D C become a T o an? came
outt off Anacosttiia Seniiorr Hiigh Schooll iin Washiingtton.. Alll 10 kiids iin my ffamiilly earrned
ou o Anacos a Sen o H gh Schoo n Wash ng on A 10 k ds n my am y ea ned
schollarrshiips tto colllege,, and alll off tthem have degrrees.. II have ffourr siiblliings who pllayed
scho a sh ps o co ege and a o hem have deg ees have ou s b ngs who p ayed
NFL balll.. IItt sttarrtts wiitth a solliid ffoundattiion att home.. My mom and dad rraiised us iin a prroperr
NFL ba           s a s w h a so d ounda on a home My mom and dad a sed us n a p ope
mannerr.. My brrottherr Dellmarr and II werre tthe llastt tto attttend colllege.. II had siiblliings att Norrtth
manne My b o he De ma and we e he as o a end co ege had s b ngs a No h
Carrolliina and Bostton Uniiverrsiitty on schollarrshiip.. Everrybody wantted tto do bettterr tthan one
Ca o na and Bos on Un ve s y on scho a sh p Eve ybody wan ed o do be e han one
anottherr.. My mottherr saiid iitt woulld be a crriisiis,, an embarrrrassmentt iiff you diidn'tt gett a degrree..
ano he My mo he sa d wou d be a c s s an emba assmen you d dn' ge a deg ee
Ottherrs gott mastterr's degrrees,, so we werre outt tto outtdo one orr anottherr,, tto achiieve alll tthe
O he s go mas e 's deg ees so we we e ou o ou do one o ano he o ach eve a he
accollades and whatteverr..
acco ades and wha eve
          Rodney Peette was anottherr biig prrep atthllettiic ttallentt who came iintto USC att tthatt
          Rodney Pee e was ano he b g p ep a h e c a en who came n o USC a ha

ttiime.. II sttiillll sttay iin ttouch wiitth hiim,, allong wiitth some off tthe coaches lliike Dave Wannsttedtt..
    me s s ay n ouch w h h m a ong w h some o he coaches ke Dave Wanns ed

II putt a llott off ttrrustt and ffaiitth iin tthose guys who rrecrruiitted me.. II had overr 200 schollarrshiip
   pu a o o us and a h n hose guys who ec u ed me had ove 200 scho a sh p

offfferrs and II llooked att llotts off schoolls,, each ffrrom good confferrences;; good prrogrrams lliike
o e s and ooked a o s o schoo s each om good con e ences good p og ams ke

IIllliinoiis iin tthe Biig 10;; tthe ACC;; Nebrraska,, USC.. UCLA rrecrruiitted me butt II'd allrready been
       no s n he B g 10 he ACC Neb aska USC UCLA ec u ed me bu 'd a eady been

tto USC and II diidn'tt ffeell lliike ttrravelliing 3,,000 miilles a second ttiime fforr ttheiirr rrecrruiittiing ttrriip..
  o USC and d dn' ee ke ave ng 3 000 m es a second me o he ec u ng p

Lonniie Whiitte was my hostt.. He showed me arround.. II saw tthe academiic prrogrrams.. II
Lonn e Wh e was my hos He showed me a ound saw he academ c p og ams

wantted tto gett iintto rradiio--TV brroadcasttiing.. L..A.. was tthe numberr one mediia capiittoll and iiff
wan ed o ge n o ad o TV b oadcas ng L A was he numbe one med a cap o and

you w sh o pu sue ha e d USC's second o none t was a g ea oppo un y and had
you wiish tto purrsue tthatt ffiielld,, USC's second tto none.. IIt was a grreatt opporrttuniitty and II had

a comfforrtt llevell wiitth tthe coaches..
a com o eve w h he coaches

Marrcus Allllen sttayed att tthe Hyatttt Wiillshiirre when II viisiitted.. He was on tthe Los Angelles
 Ma cus A en s ayed a he Hya W sh e when v s ed He was on he Los Ange es
Raiiderrs and was wiitth Howiie Long.. II wasn'tt so surre who Long was,, butt tthey'rre "ttallkiing
 Ra de s and was w h How e Long wasn' so su e who Long was bu hey' e " a k ng
smack" wiitth me.. They werre getttiing rready tto pllay Seattttlle tthe nextt day tto go tto tthe Superr
 smack" w h me They we e ge ng eady o p ay Sea e he nex day o go o he Supe
Bowll iin Januarry 1984.. Theiirr opponentts llooked tto be my prro tteam,, tthe Washiingtton
 Bow n Janua y 1984 The opponen s ooked o be my p o eam he Wash ng on
Redskiins.. II ttolld hiim tthey'd gett ttheiirr buttts kiicked by tthe Redskiins,, and we sttiilll llaugh and
 Redsk ns o d h m hey'd ge he bu s k cked by he Redsk ns and we s                                          augh and
ttallk aboutt cerrttaiin tthiings,, lliike how Marrcus brroke tthatt llong rrun and tthe Raiiderrs domiinatted
   a k abou ce a n h ngs ke how Ma cus b oke ha ong un and he Ra de s dom na ed
Washiingtton.. Therre's a llott off camarraderriie and we go on and on and on..
 Wash ng on The e's a o o cama ade e and we go on and on and on
II was a ttiightt end and lliinebackerr iin hiigh schooll,, and a ttiightt end iin colllege.. Keiitth Jackson,,
    was a gh end and nebacke n h gh schoo and a gh end n co ege Ke h Jackson
 who wen o Ok ahoma and p ayed o he Eag es and An hony W ams o l no s
who wentt tto Okllahoma and pllayed fforr tthe Eaglles;; and Antthony Wiillliiams off IIllliinoiis,,
werre a couplle off ottherr ttop ttiightt ends off tthatt erra.. IIn 1984 II rred--shiirrtted,, butt II was on a tteam
 we e a coup e o o he op gh ends o ha e a n 1984 ed sh ed bu was on a eam
tthatt won tthe Rose Bowll.. II pllayed a ffew miinuttes and was asked iiff II wantted tto "rred--shiirrtt.."
   ha won he Rose Bow p ayed a ew m nu es and was asked                                     wan ed o " ed sh "
Marrk Boyerr and Joe Corrmiierr werre ahead off me,, so II diidn'tt see tthatt II''d gett much pllayiing
 Ma k Boye and Joe Co m e we e ahead o me so d dn' see ha d ge much p ay ng
ttiime,, II don'tt tthiink.. Tiim Grreen was tthe quarrtterrback.. He'd been an Alll--Amerriican att Ell
    me don' h nk T m G een was he qua e back He'd been an A Ame can a E
Camiino J..C..,, butt satt behiind Sean Salliisburry.. Sean was iinjjurred and Tiim gott hiis
 Cam no J C bu sa beh nd Sean Sa sbu y Sean was n u ed and T m go h s
opporrttuniitty and shiined iin tthe Rose Bowll wiin overr Ohiio Sttatte.. II tthiink he owned
 oppo un y and sh ned n he Rose Bow w n ove Oh o S a e h nk he owned
Alll--Amerriican Moviing Company iin Pasadena att one ttiime..
 A Ame can Mov ng Company n Pasadena a one me
IItt was an odd season,, howeverr.. We llostt tto UCLA and Nottrre Dame.. IItt's harrd tto say whatt
     was an odd season howeve We os o UCLA and No e Dame 's ha d o say wha
happened iin tthe UCLA game.. We had good prracttiices,, iitt was a good week.. Coach Ted
 happened n he UCLA game We had good p ac ces was a good week Coach Ted
Tolllnerr prreparred us welll.. Now he's wiitth tthe 49errs.. He saiid we werre rready..
 To ne p epa ed us we Now he's w h he 49e s He sa d we we e eady
Tiim Grreen was a wiinnerr,, butt tthatt week was comiing offff tthe Washiingtton game.. Therre was
 T m G een was a w nne bu ha week was com ng o he Wash ng on game The e was
so much up fforr tthatt Washiingtton game,, tthatt werre we exhaustted.. Alll tthe enerrgy and hype
 so much up o ha Wash ng on game ha we e we exhaus ed A he ene gy and hype
had been diirrectted tto tthatt game,, and when we won iitt,, now tthatt we knew we werre iin tthe
 had been d ec ed o ha game and when we won now ha we knew we we e n he
Rose Bowll .. .. .. Butt iitt was a case off a rriivall,, we werre up fforr iitt butt iitt jjustt wasn'tt ourr day tthatt
 Rose Bow            Bu was a case o a va we we e up o bu                                    us wasn' ou day ha
day.. They had sometthiing tto prrove.. UCLA was good everry yearr iin tthe 1980s underr Terrrry
 day They had some h ng o p ove UCLA was good eve y yea n he 1980s unde Te y
Donahue,, tthey werre att lleastt even wiitth us.. II tthiink tthey wentt tto tthe Cottton Bowll and had
 Donahue hey we e a eas even w h us h nk hey wen o he Co on Bow and had
good tteams yearr afftterr yearr,, and tthey beatt us,, 29--10..
 good eams yea a e yea and hey bea us 29 10
1984 was allso tthe yearr off tthe Nottrre Dame rraiin game att tthe Colliiseum.. My giirrllffrriiend ffllew
 1984 was a so he yea o he No e Dame a n game a he Co seum My g                                              end ew
outt fforr tthatt game and satt iin tthe rraiin.. IItt was tthe worrstt weattherr II've everr been a parrtt off;; jjustt
 ou o ha game and sa n he a n was he wo s wea he 've eve been a pa o us
nastty weattherr,, a bllack,, darrk day iin tthe sttadiium.. The sttadiium empttiied outt.. We werre sttuck
 nas y wea he a b ack da k day n he s ad um The s ad um emp ed ou We we e s uck
iin tthe mud and we neverr gott unttrracked iin a 19--7 lloss..
  n he mud and we neve go un acked n a 19 7 oss
           Washiingtton woulld have won tthe nattiionall champiionshiip had we nott beatten tthem
             Wash ng on wou d have won he na ona champ onsh p had we no bea en hem

and gone tto tthe Rose Bowll.. They beatt Miiamii iin tthe Orrange Bowll.. Ken Ruetttgerrs and
and gone o he Rose Bow They bea M am n he O ange Bow Ken Rue ge s and

Duane Biicketttt wentt up agaiinstt me everry day.. They prreparred me.. Therre was so much
Duane B cke wen up aga ns me eve y day They p epa ed me The e was so much

camarraderriie att prracttiice.. II sttiillll see Ruetttgerrs's dad ffrrom ttiime tto ttiime iin Bakerrsffiielld.. Ken
cama ade e a p ac ce s see Rue ge s's dad om me o me n Bake s e d Ken

brroughtt me underr hiis wiing,, he woulld tteach me how tto bllock iin tthe colllegiiatte sttylle as
b ough me unde h s w ng he wou d each me how o b ock n he co eg a e s y e as

opposed tto tthe hiigh schooll sttylle.. He'd calll me "Ches.." "Giive me a good llook,, Ches,, gett
opposed o he h gh schoo s y e He'd ca me "Ches " "G ve me a good ook Ches ge

me rready,, II wanna gett betttterr,," he''d say.. II passed tthiis on tto Marrcus Cottton and Juniiorr
me eady wanna ge be e " he d say passed h s on o Ma cus Co on and Jun o

Seau.. Ken woulld say,, "You make me alll--confferrence,, II''lll make you alll--confferrence.." Thatt's
Seau Ken wou d say "You make me a con e ence                      make you a con e ence " Tha 's

Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan..
Wha Means o Be a Tro an

          Jack Del Rio was an All-American linebacker that year. I learned a lot in that year

from guys like that. Ohio State was a great opponent in the Rose Bowl. Coming in they

had Keith Byars, Chris Spielman at linebacker, receiver Cris Carter. I believe I cried

during that game, it was emotional. We good practices although we had wet weather, it

was one of those years. We practiced at East Los Angeles Junior College and it was quite

family oriented.

We came together. Tollner was a player's coach. Throughout that game we never had a
doubt despite all their hype. We were underdogs but had quality players, as well. We had
young up-and-coming stars like Ryan Knight at tailback who were considered very
promising underclassmen. Our line was one of the best in college football with Jeff
Bregel and Ken Ruettgers. We got after them defensively, we out-played them. Our
coaches out-coached them, as they do today. The Pac-10 out-coaches other conferences,
and we were faster, hungry. We had seniors who knew it was their last year. Timmie
Ware, Mark Boyer who played in Indianapolis. We had a good, solid foundation. It was
the closest team I've ever been with throughout my career, and we beat the sixth-ranked
Buckeyes, 20-17 to finish ninth in the UPI poll.
1985 was a very tough year. We were down, there were sanctions against us, there was
no TV, it was lingering from previous years. We lost to Baylor. We had an opportunity to
win the Pac-10 but the luster was not there. We lost to Hardy Nickerson and Cal that year
or we would have gone to the Rose Bowl. Salisbury was back but he never lived up to his
"blue chip" promise and we went to Rodney Peete, who was a freshman.
So it all came down to UCLA at the Coliseum. It was one of those games they talk about,
where no matter how bad the season if you beat UCLA it saves the season. They had a
strong team as they always did.
It came down to the last play. I was in on that play when Rodney scored. I hurt my
shoulder. We were down at the east end of the Coliseum. He kept the ball. Sean was
originally the starter but was not doing as well as either Rodney or Kevin McLean.
Rodney was full of determination and eagerness. UCLA did not expect the plays called
for him, and people thought they were busted plays until they found out later. UCLA had
quality players. They always had speed at linebacker and their inside guys played
aggressively. A play was called for Rodney to drop back, but it was a quarterback keeper.
They think it's a pass situation, but once the receiver runs out his route we go to the
"72-option weakside." Rodney read it, then he'd run and we ran that several times for first
downs. They couldn't pick up on it. We won, 17-13 but they still went to the Rose Bowl.
We lost to Alabama in the Aloha Bowl and they were trying to get Ted out of there.
It was tough. Ted was always on the hot seat. He was a player's coach but some of the
alums didn't think he was head coach material. He had great assistants. Many of them
went to the NFL; Wannstedt and others. He was a leader and a good, sound offensive
coordinator. We had a great quarterbacks coach. Ted was a great recruiter, a great family
man. I'd send my son off to play for him. We definitely came off a good year in 1984, but
in '85 the probation had dwindled from 1982 or '83. Wannstedt thought we'd win the
conference.
In 1988 under Coach Larry Smith we were unbeaten and looking to win the national
championship. Rodney Peete and Troy Aikman of UCLA were the frontrunners for the
Heisman Trophy, and it all came down to the UCLA game at the Rose Bowl. That was
the "measles week."
I came back from the hospital. I had been operated on, injured vs. Cal a couple weeks
earlier when I caught a ball running straight down the field. It was a Billy Kilmer-type
pass, a "dying quail," and I chased it but came down and got hit and tore my ACL. So I
get back from the hospital. I'd been visited from my boy Rodney, and brother he was not
feeling that well. I was in pain. I'm on medication, I'm in space.
         So now my roommie's not feeling good and I'm giving him a hard time. We lived

in a downtown apartment at 3rd and Lafayette Park Place. The "crap hit the fence," so to

speak. He felt weak. My girlfriend (now my wife) came over to assist, and he came over

to my room and he looked really bad. He was diagnosed with measles.

       He ttrriied tto prracttiice and wattch ffiillm butt llostt hiis voiice tthatt week.. He coulldn'tt calll
       He ed o p ac ce and wa ch m bu os h s vo ce ha week He cou dn' ca
siignalls,, so we hearrd tthem ffrrom Aarron Emmanuell orr Lerroy Holltt,, tthe rrunniing backs,, and
s gna s so we hea d hem om Aa on Emmanue o Le oy Ho he unn ng backs and

we'd snap tthe ballll on ttheiirr calll.. Everry day II was ffeelliing paiin and ttherre werre questtiions
we'd snap he ba on he ca Eve y day was ee ng pa n and he e we e ques ons

aboutt whettherr Rodney woulld pllay.. They''d alll callll tthe aparrttmentt.. Mall Fllorrence woulld
abou whe he Rodney wou d p ay They d a ca he apa men Ma F o ence wou d

callll,, and II was nott sharriing iinfforrmattiion tto giive tthe opponentt's any iidea.. Everrybody knew
ca and was no sha ng n o ma on o g ve he opponen 's any dea Eve ybody knew

wherre he lliived,, and iitt was a ttablloiid--ttype siittuattiion wiitth tthe prress outtsiide tthe aparrttmentt..
whe e he ved and was a ab o d ype s ua on w h he p ess ou s de he apa men

One niightt tthe mediicattiion II was on gave me adverrse effffectts,, and Erriica ttolld Rodney II
One n gh he med ca on was on gave me adve se e ec s and E ca o d Rodney
needed hellp,, and II was tthrreatteniing Rodney.. II diidn''tt know whatt II was sayiing.. II was iin
needed he p and was h ea en ng Rodney d dn know wha was say ng was n
paiin and he llooked so bad.. Rodney calllled tthe docttorr tto "do sometthiing aboutt Marrttiin.." He
pa n and he ooked so bad Rodney ca ed he doc o o "do some h ng abou Ma n " He
saiid,, "hydrratte hiim.." II was swolllen and he llooked bad.. We hugged and II deparrtted.. The
sa d "hyd a e h m " was swo en and he ooked bad We hugged and depa ed The
ambullance escorrtts me outt and tthe prress tthiinks iitt's Rodney.. IItt was a zoo..
ambu ance esco s me ou and he p ess h nks 's Rodney was a zoo
They ffiinallly had hiim lleave tthe aparrttmentt.. Therre's alll tthese camerras,, mediia getttiing
They na y had h m eave he apa men The e's a hese came as med a ge ng
sttorriies.. They llocked hiim up iin a hottell.. They ttrransporrtted hiim tto tthe hottell so nobody coulld
s o es They ocked h m up n a ho e They anspo ed h m o he ho e so nobody cou d
diistturrb hiim.. II woulld whiip hiis ttaiill when II'd communiicatte wiitth hiim.. II keptt getttiing calllls on
d s u b h m wou d wh p h s a when 'd commun ca e w h h m kep ge ng ca s on
Thurrsday and Frriiday ffrrom Fllorrence,, butt he putt hiis own worrds iintto tthe sttorry..
Thu sday and F day om F o ence bu he pu h s own wo ds n o he s o y
            II ttolld hiim tthatt iin my opiiniion,, Rodney woulld pllay.. II saiid tthatt wiitth hiis hearrtt,, hiis
                 o d h m ha n my op n on Rodney wou d p ay sa d ha w h h s hea h s

courrage,, and hiis mottiivattiion,, iiff II werre tto putt my money on iitt,, he'd pllay.. Wiitth hiis
cou age and h s mo va on                     we e o pu my money on he'd p ay W h h s

demeanorr,, II tthoughtt he'd sttiick iitt outt and pllay.. The sttorry came outt tthatt Marrttiin says
demeano          hough he'd s ck ou and p ay The s o y came ou ha Ma n says

Rodney wiillll pllay.. II gott some angrry rremarrks ffrrom ttrraiinerrs.. They saiid,, "Why'd you giive
Rodney w p ay go some ang y ema ks om a ne s They sa d "Why'd you g ve

away ourr rresourrces?" Fllorrence changed tthiings up.. He was a biig USC guy and miightt have
away ou esou ces?" F o ence changed h ngs up He was a b g USC guy and m gh have

been ttrryiing tto crreatte a sellff--ffullffiilllliing prrophecy.. Rodney,, iitt tturrned outt,, pllayed wellll.. He
been y ng o c ea e a se u                            ng p ophecy Rodney             u ned ou p ayed we He

scorred behiind John Guerrrrerro,, ourr biig offffensiive lliineman.. He gott behiind hiim and Paull
sco ed beh nd John Gue e o ou b g o ens ve neman He go beh nd h m and Pau

Grreen,, a collleague off miine,, and he gave me tthe Phiilliippiians siign afftterr he scorred..
G een a co eague o m ne and he gave me he Ph pp ans s gn a e he sco ed

          You're a Bruin for four years, but a Trojan for life. Ken Norton Jr. will vouch for

that. Maybe he's not willing to come out and say why Karl Dorrell didn't hire him, but in

that game Ken, in my opinion, didn't make much noise against us. We shut him down and

kept him from making tackles. I didn't really know of him all that much, but he obviously

went on to greatness.

My good friend Daryl Gross, who was an associate athletic director who went to
Syracuse; we talk every month or so. He's truly the one responsible for getting Pete
Carroll to USC. Gross and Carroll were with the New York Jets together. Tim
McDonald, whose now coaching at Edison High in Fresno; he and Pete had 49er
connections. Pete's a great man. I'd have loved to have played for him. He calls me "Baby
Shaq" and I call him "Pistol Pete."
USC's a family affair, and the 502 Club was like our home. There was nothing else like it
back then. Injuries and surgeries hampered me. I'm not supposed to play sports anymore,
to take chances because of potential paralysis. I never went pro, but I knew I didn't want
to be in sports information like Tim Tessalone. Dr. Mike McGee wanted me to work for
him, but I wanted to play and if I couldn't do that I didn't want to be on the office side of
athletics.
The 502 Club, the school; in college sports everybody has a connection with each other
whether you are an athlete or just a student. We share the experiences that pro players
and their fans don't share . . . professors, fraternities, experiences. This may be so at most
colleges, but there is something at USC that is not at other universities, that's at USC. I
have a friend of mine who went to the University of North Carolina, and he said, "We
don’t have that connection." It's amazing, we still talk. 40 or 50 different guys. We hug
each other. Sam Anno, my old teammate whose now a coach, grabs and kisses me. It's
like that.
Maybe it's because USC is in a large city where a lot of the athletes come from and often
tend to stay after graduation. Most Southern or rural college campuses are separated by
distance from big populations like New York or even Houston - Texas is in Austin,
A&M's in College Station - so the alumni and athletes are less likely to live near each
other and congregate at games and events.
I'm proud of my D.C. connection. Bob Schmidt is a former Trojan who is a lawyer in
D.C. I think Schmidt played some NFL ball, quarterback, and I think he sponsors a
scholarship. I understood he took over as Willie Wood's guardian when Willie, whose
also from Washington, was hospitalized and he raises money for him. Jack Del Rio and
Kennedy Pola called me when my mom passed away, and that made me feel so warm. I
thought Jack would go into baseball, as he was a great player. Duane Bickett was a
monster in practice.
Memories, man . . .

Martin Chesley was a tight end whose career was broken up by injuries. His brother

Delmar was a four-year inside linebacker at USC.


                            MARK "AIRCRAFT" CARRIER

Safety
1987 - 1989

I played at Long Beach Poly High. It was a power then, it had a lot of history in athletics,

especially football, but it didn't have the notoriety then that it has now with the Internet
and print media. They get more public relations. It's amazing how many good people who

have been there. You know Poly has produced tennis players, baseball players, golfers . .

.

         Billie Jean King and Tony Gwynn played there. Chase Utley was a Jackrabbit. So

many people come out of there over the years. I forget everybody. I'm pretty proud of

that history, of the people who come out of there, and the diversity of the school.

 I was a pretty highly recruited high school Parade All-American and all that stuff. I
 considered Notre Dame. I even made a verbal commitment to Notre Dame, then changed
 my mind. I woke up the next day and thought I would be best served at USC.
 I came in the fall of 1986 and "red-shirted." Larry Smith came in 1987. I started at
 defensive back that year. We bottled up Troy Aikman and UCLA to win the Pacific-10
 title and advance to the Rose Bowl. It was one of those storybook games you hear about,
 made for TV. They were number five in the country and we were just coming into our
 own. We'd won three in a row but we were getting beaten by Aikman and all those
 All-Americans. They had a 13-0 third quarter lead but we came back. One thing after
 another happened, but the key thing was we kept them out of the end zone and got some
 turnovers. We kept pressure on Troy and won the game.
One off tthe tthiings II'm asked aboutt many ttiimes iis,, do II have any rregrretts? II don'tt butt II was
 One o he h ngs 'm asked abou many mes s do have any eg e s? don' bu was
0--fforr--tthrree agaiinstt Nottrre Dame.. The ttoughestt was iin 1988 when we werre ttwo and tthey
 0 o h ee aga ns No e Dame The oughes was n 1988 when we we e wo and hey
werre numberr one.. Thatt was tto pllay fforr tthe ttiittlle.. We werre ffavorred butt llostt att home.. They
 we e numbe one Tha was o p ay o he e We we e avo ed bu os a home They
 sound y bea us t was ve y d sappo n ng o me and he who e eam
soundlly beatt us.. IIt was verry diisappoiinttiing tto me and tthe wholle tteam..
IItt's harrd tto say we llett down agaiinstt Miichiigan iin tthe 1989 Rose Bowll a montth orr so llatterr..
     's ha d o say we e down aga ns M ch gan n he 1989 Rose Bow a mon h o so a e
II don’’tt tthiink so.. Miichiigan had a good tteam iin ttheiirr own rriightt.. We had tthe llead and werre
     don h nk so M ch gan had a good eam n he own gh We had he ead and we e
goiing iin fforr tthe wiinniing scorre,, butt we ffumblled tthe balll away.. Don’’tt gett me wrrong,,
 go ng n o he w nn ng sco e bu we umb ed he ba away Don ge me w ong
tthough.. We coulldn'tt sttop Lerroy Hoarrd,, so iitt's ttoo easy tto say we llett down..
   hough We cou dn' s op Le oy Hoa d so 's oo easy o say we e down
II won tthe Jiim Thorrpe awarrd iin 1989.. II beatt outt Natthan LaDuke off Arriizona Sttatte and
     won he J m Tho pe awa d n 1989 bea ou Na han LaDuke o A zona S a e and
Todd Lyghtt off Nottrre Dame,, and made tthe Alll--Amerriican tteam iin 1988 and 1989..
 Todd Lygh o No e Dame and made he A Ame can eam n 1988 and 1989
Tiim Ryan was lliike a brrottherr tto me.. We came ttogettherr and hiitt iitt offff.. He was lliike ourr
 T m Ryan was ke a b o he o me We came oge he and h                                  o He was ke ou
lleaderr off ourr grroup.. He was outtspoken and verry conffiidentt.. He neverr llacked fforr
   eade o ou g oup He was ou spoken and ve y con den He neve acked o
entthusiiasm.. Behiind tthe scenes he was ourr lleaderr.. He sett tthe ttone and had tthatt desiirre..
 en hus asm Beh nd he scenes he was ou eade He se he one and had ha des e
Tiim,, Currttiis Conway and II werre alll tteammattes wiitth tthe Bearrs a ffew yearrs llatterr.. Keiitth Van
 T m Cu s Conway and we e a eamma es w h he Bea s a ew yea s a e Ke h Van
Horrne was ttherre wiitth us hiis llastt couplle yearrs.. Wiitth me iin Chiicago,, tthe Nottrre Dame parrtt,,
 Ho ne was he e w h us h s as coup e yea s W h me n Ch cago he No e Dame pa
tthey know who you werre,, tthe schooll you''rre ffrrom.. II gott tthatt everrywherre II wentt.. They llett
   hey know who you we e he schoo you e om go ha eve ywhe e wen They e
me know whatt tthe rrecorrd was..
 me know wha he eco d was
II pllayed seven yearrs fforr tthe Bearrs and made Alll--Prro tthrree ttiimes.. II''ve hearrd maybe II''lll be
     p ayed seven yea s o he Bea s and made A P o h ee mes ve hea d maybe                                     be
sellectted tto tthe Collllege Halll off Fame.. II see peoplle goiing iin and wonderr whatt tthe crriitterriia
 se ec ed o he Co ege Ha o Fame see peop e go ng n and wonde wha he c e a
iis.. II jjustt gott iin tto tthe USC Halll off Fame ttwo yearrs ago,, and iin some ways iitt's biiggerr tthan
   s us go n o he USC Ha o Fame wo yea s ago and n some ways 's b gge han
some ottherr Hallls off Fame.. IItt's an elliitte grroup and II was ttaken aback tto be sellectted,,
 some o he Ha s o Fame 's an e e g oup and was aken aback o be se ec ed
because you'rre iin conttenttiion nott jjustt wiitth ffellllow ffoottballll pllayerrs butt Ollympiians,, Majjorr
 because you' e n con en on no us w h e ow oo ba p aye s bu O ymp ans Ma o
League sttarrs,, baskettballl pllayerrs,, ttrrack sttarrs,, women atthllettes,, coaches.. You llook att tthe lliistt
 League s a s baske ba p aye s ack s a s women a h e es coaches You ook a he s
and iitt's perrhaps tthe grreattestt lliistt off alll--arround atthllettiic grreatts assemblled anywherre!!
 and 's pe haps he g ea es s o a a ound a h e c g ea s assemb ed anywhe e
II had tthe prriiviillege off knowiing Jiim Murrrray off tthe Los Angelles Tiimes.. He was a verry
   had he p v ege o know ng J m Mu ay o he Los Ange es T mes He was a ve y
smarrtt and knowlledgeablle man,, easy tto deall wiitth.. Reporrtterrs come iin alll diifffferrentt kiinds,,
 sma and know edgeab e man easy o dea w h Repo e s come n a d e en k nds
butt he was jjustt a guy.. He and Mall Fllorrence werre niice guys who made you ffeell
 bu he was us a guy He and Ma F o ence we e n ce guys who made you ee
comfforrttablle.. Tom Kelllly has tthe bestt voiice II everr hearrd.. II can lliistten tto hiim alll day and alll
 com o ab e Tom Ke y has he bes vo ce eve hea d can s en o h m a day and a
niightt llong..
 n gh ong
 I was involved in sportscasting after retirement but got into coaching. I'm in my third
 year coaching. I was at ASU. I'm not sure if coaching is what I'll do for 20 years. I'm not
 sure I want to. I need to master what I'm doing and let it go from there. I enjoy what I'm
 doing and don't think about it that much. The hours during the season are what they are.
 In the off-season it's more like an eight-to-five job, but in-season it's at least 12 hours a
 day. You lose a great deal of sleep. You can work from six in the morning until after
 midnight and come back early the next day. If you can’t deal with it, stay out of the
 coaching profession.


Mark Carrier was a two-time All-American and winner of the Jim Thorpe award

for best defensive back in the nation (1989). Twice named All-Pacific 10, Carrier

was a 1989 Playboy Pre-Season All-American selection, and was elected to the USC

Athletic Hall of Fame in 2007. He was selected in the first round by the Chicago

Bears, playing in Chicago (1990-96,) Detroit (1997-99), and Washington (2000).

Carrier was selected to the All-Pro team three times. After pro football Mark

became a radio sports commentator, then went into coaching as an assistant with

Arizona State and the Baltimore Ravens.



                                       JOHN "J..J.." JACKSON
                                       JOHN "J J " JACKSON

Fllanker--Splliitt End
F anker Sp End
1986 -- 1989
1986 1989


II'm ffrrom Diiamond Barr iin eastterrn Los Angelles Countty.. Jiim Edmonds,, who pllayed fforr tthe
   'm om D amond Ba n eas e n Los Ange es Coun y J m Edmonds who p ayed o he
Angells and Carrdiinalls,, iis ffrrom ttherre.. II atttended Biishop Amatt Hiigh Schooll,, whiich was
 Ange s and Ca d na s s om he e a ended B shop Ama H gh Schoo wh ch was
sttiillll a biig--ttiime powerr when II was ttherre.. Maziio Roystterr,, Erriic Biieniiemy off Collorrado,, Ron
 s a b g me powe when was he e Maz o Roys e E c B en emy o Co o ado Ron
Brrown,, alll pllayed ttherre.. Biishop Amatt prroduced Adrriian Young,, Patt Haden,, J..K.. McKay
 B own a p ayed he e B shop Ama p oduced Ad an Young Pa Haden J K McKay
and Paull McDonalld off USC.. J..K..'s brrottherr Riich,, now a GM iin tthe prros,, wentt ttherre.. John
 and Pau McDona d o USC J K 's b o he R ch now a GM n he p os wen he e John
Sciiarrrra off UCLA was a Lancerr.. Phiill Canttwelll and Garry Marriinoviich coached att Amatt.. IItt
 Sc a a o UCLA was a Lance Ph Can we and Ga y Ma nov ch coached a Ama
was a grreatt erra,, butt iin rrecentt yearrs tthey''ve nott been parrttiicullarrlly good..
 was a g ea e a bu n ecen yea s hey ve no been pa cu a y good
              II came tto USC fforr ffoottballl maiinlly and hopeffullly tto pllay baseballl.. II was allways
                 came o USC o oo ba ma n y and hope u y o p ay baseba                                    was a ways
tthe kiid who lloved whatteverr sporrtt II pllayed iin whatteverr season iitt was.. IItt was neverr
  he k d who oved wha eve spo p ayed n wha eve season was was neve
cllearr--cutt..
 c ea cu
II lliiked ''em botth.. They''rre ttwo diifffferrentt sporrtts.. Therre's prros and cons and harrd tto choose
       ked em bo h They e wo d e en spo s The e's p os and cons and ha d o choose
one overr tthe ottherr..
 one ove he o he
              II pllayed fforr Ted Tolllnerr as a ffrreshman iin 1986 and fforr Larrrry Smiitth ffrrom 1987--89..
                 p ayed o Ted To ne as a eshman n 1986 and o La y Sm h om 1987 89
We had grreatt quarrtterrbacks,, Rodney Peette my ffiirrstt tthrree yearrs and Todd Marriinoviich my
 We had g ea qua e backs Rodney Pee e my s h ee yea s and Todd Ma nov ch my
seniiorr yearr.. They werre pollarr opposiittes iin many aspectts.. Rodney was obviiouslly morre
 sen o yea They we e po a oppos es n many aspec s Rodney was obv ous y mo e
mobiille.. He had tthe iinttangiiblles a quarrtterrback needs as a wiinnerr.. You can'tt tteach llott off iitt..
 mob e He had he n ang b es a qua e back needs as a w nne You can' each o o
Quarrtterrbacks who arre good butt do nott have tthatt iinttangiiblle don’’tt become grreatt.. The llack
 Qua e backs who a e good bu do no have ha n ang b e don become g ea The ack
off iitt iis a ffacttorr wiitth comparriing tthe ttwo.. Rodney was a morre mobiille quarrtterrback and a
 o         s a ac o w h compa ng he wo Rodney was a mo e mob e qua e back and a
morre vocall ttype lleaderr tthan Todd.. Todd lled by examplle.. II knew Todd att a youngerr age..
 mo e voca ype eade han Todd Todd ed by examp e knew Todd a a younge age
Todd was exttrremelly accurratte.. He coulld knock a soda can offff a ttrrashcan ffrrom 40 yarrds
 Todd was ex eme y accu a e He cou d knock a soda can o a ashcan om 40 ya ds
away.. Todd was as accurratte a passerr as II everr pllayed wiitth.. II was a seniiorr when he was a
 away Todd was as accu a e a passe as eve p ayed w h was a sen o when he was a
"rred--shiirrtt" ffrreshman and iirroniicallly II caughtt tthe mostt ballls iin my carreerr ffrrom hiim,, morre
 " ed sh " eshman and on ca y caugh he mos ba s n my ca ee om h m mo e
tthan Rodney.. II neverr ttook a "kiilll shott,," he coulld keep hiis rreceiiverr's outt off harrm's way,,
  han Rodney neve ook a "k sho " he cou d keep h s ece ve 's ou o ha m's way
whiich was a ttesttamentt tto hiis accurracy and ffiielld viisiion.. Botth quarrtterrbacks lloved prressurre
 wh ch was a es amen o h s accu acy and e d v s on Bo h qua e backs oved p essu e
and pllayed bettterr underr prressurre.. When tthe heatt iis on tthey werre att ttheiirr bestt..
 and p ayed be e unde p essu e When he hea s on hey we e a he bes
                  When ttherre was mediia crriittiiciism,, botth pllayed betttterr tthe nextt week.. Rodney
                  When he e was med a c c sm bo h p ayed be e he nex week Rodney
Peette when he had tthe measlles,, and diid nott prracttiice tthe wholle week,, pllayed one off tthe
 Pee e when he had he meas es and d d no p ac ce he who e week p ayed one o he
mostt iinspiirred games iin tthe USC--UCLA hiisttorry,, beattiing tthem iin tthe Rose Bowll.. They
 mos nsp ed games n he USC UCLA h s o y bea ng hem n he Rose Bow They
werre lloaded.. IIn tthe ffiirrstt game Todd pllayed afftterr a poorr perrfforrmance iin a ttiie wiitth UCLA
 we e oaded n he s game Todd p ayed a e a poo pe o mance n a e w h UCLA
iin 1989,, Todd pllayed grreatt iin tthe Rose Bowll,, beattiing Miichiigan,, 17--10..
  n 1989 Todd p ayed g ea n he Rose Bow bea ng M ch gan 17 10
              II pllayed on some grreatt baseballl tteams and we werre lloaded wiitth ttallentt.. My
                 p ayed on some g ea baseba eams and we we e oaded w h a en My
tteammattes iinclluded Damon Bufforrd,, Murrph Prrocttorr,, Jiim Campaniis,, Brrett Boone,, Jeffff
  eamma es nc uded Damon Bu o d Mu ph P oc o J m Campan s B e Boone Je
Ciirriillllo,, Marrk Smiitth,, Brrettt Jenkiins,, Miike Roberrttson,, Randy Powerrs,, Phiill Kendalll,, John
 C o Ma k Sm h B e Jenk ns M ke Robe son Randy Powe s Ph Kenda John
Cummiings,, and Brrett Barrberriie.. Barrberriie marrrriied Jiillliian Barrberriie.. He mett herr iin Chiicago
 Cumm ngs and B e Ba be e Ba be e ma ed J an Ba be e He me he n Ch cago
when she was an aspiirriing TV perrsonalliitty and he hooked herr up,, hellped advance herr
 when she was an asp ng TV pe sona y and he hooked he up he ped advance he
carreerr.. Rodney Peette was my tteammatte and a grreatt balllpllayerr..
 ca ee Rodney Pee e was my eamma e and a g ea ba p aye
              Miike Giilllespiie iis tthe bestt coach II everr pllayed fforr iin any sporrtt,, fforr severrall
               M ke G esp e s he bes coach eve p ayed o n any spo o seve a
diifffferrentt rreasons.. He managed perrsonalliittiies and atttrractted ttallentt.. Second,, he knew how tto
 d e en easons He managed pe sona es and a ac ed a en Second he knew how o
deall wiitth and manage diisparratte perrsonalliittiies;; ttallentted pllayerrs perrsonalliittiies.. Boone and
 dea w h and manage d spa a e pe sona es a en ed p aye s pe sona es Boone and
Ciirriillllo diid nott have a grreatt ffrriiendshiip,, butt tthrrough Giilllespiie pllayerrs tthatt diid nott mesh
 C o d d no have a g ea endsh p bu h ough G esp e p aye s ha d d no mesh
allso diid nott hatte each ottherr.. Diifffferrentt perrsonalliittiies do diifffferrentt tthiings.. Wiitth Giilllespiie we
 a so d d no ha e each o he D e en pe sona es do d e en h ngs W h G esp e we
had ffoottballl pllayerrs on tthe tteam;; guys whose ffattherrs had pllayed iin tthe biigs orr att USC orr
 had oo ba p aye s on he eam guys whose a he s had p ayed n he b gs o a USC o
werre wealltthy allums;; ffamiilliies who werre wellll offff and tthose who werre nott welll offff.. He
 we e wea hy a ums am es who we e we o and hose who we e no we o He
handlled iitt alll and coorrdiinatted iitt exttrremelly welll..
 hand ed a and coo d na ed ex eme y we
                  So Giilllespiie was tthe bestt ffoottballll orr baseballl coach II pllayed fforr.. We had
                  So G esp e was he bes oo ba o baseba coach p ayed o We had

unbelliievablle ttallentt offffensiivelly.. We coulld hiitt wiitth anybody,, we coulld do a llott off tthiings
unbe evab e a en o ens ve y We cou d h w h anybody we cou d do a o o h ngs

and scorred a llott off rruns.. We had some good piittchiing butt nott enough tto advance deep iin
and sco ed a o o uns We had some good p ch ng bu no enough o advance deep n

ttourrnamentts.. Sttanfforrd diid.. Powerrs was phenomenall butt once you gott pastt hiim,, Kendalll
  ou namen s S an o d d d Powe s was phenomena bu once you go pas h m Kenda
was good,, Reiid Miizuguchii and Tiim Quiinttaniillla werre prrettty good,, butt iin tthe postt--season
was good Re d M zuguch and T m Qu n an a we e p e y good bu n he pos season

you pllayed tthrree orr ffourr games iin a weekend and we'd rrun outt off piittcherrs.. You''rre getttiing
you p ayed h ee o ou games n a weekend and we'd un ou o p che s You e ge ng

down tto yourr ffourrtth sttarrtterr.. The ffiirrstt guy can'tt come back and ttherre's nott enough deptth..
down o you ou h s a e The s guy can' come back and he e's no enough dep h

The fforrmatt was diifffferrentt tthen and you needed morre piittchiing..
The o ma was d e en hen and you needed mo e p ch ng

        After USC I played in the NFL, for the Cardinals for three years and the Chicago

Bears for one. I was drafted in baseball by the San Francisco Giants, and played two

years in their organization, then three years in the Angels' chain. I wish I'd had a chance

at playing in the Major Leagues, as I would have been one of only three or four guys to

play in the NFL and the big leagues.

        I have great memories that I can't compare to anything, and it helped me becoming

a broadcaster. I'm truly blessed. I got an opportunity with Fox Sports and have been

fortunate to be with them during a period of tremendous growth. Multiple-channel cable

TV and the growth of collegiate football, and the incredible growth of televised high

school football, all occurred during a time when USC's been the dominant program in the

nation. It has given me opportunity and exposure beyond just the local market. For me, I

started my broadcast career with Fox Sports after my NFL career, and I give Tom Kelly

credit for bringing me in. What It Means to Be a Trojan is that Trojans help each other,

we extend a hand for each other, and that's what Tom did for me. I saw him and joked

with him, I told him that he had a good gig, that it would be nice to look good and get

paid for it.

         He sentt me tto tthe guys att Fox;; Jerrrry Garrciia,, Garry Garrciia and Jeffff Prrocttorr,, and iitt
         He sen me o he guys a Fox Je y Ga c a Ga y Ga c a and Je P oc o and

was lliike,, "Whatt do you wantt tto do?" and II saiid II wantted tto be on camerra.. II sttarrtted wiitth
was ke "Wha do you wan o do?" and sa d wan ed o be on came a s a ed w h

USC baseballl as Tom Kellly''s parrttnerr.. He carrrriied me.. Fox tthen llaunched a hiigh schooll
USC baseba as Tom Ke y s pa ne He ca ed me Fox hen aunched a h gh schoo
sporrtts package and iitt grrew ffrrom ttherre:: Pac--10,, arrena ffoottballl,, colllege baseballl and
spo s package and g ew om he e Pac 10 a ena oo ba co ege baseba and

ffoottballll,, Majjorr League baseballll.. Each was a buiilldiing bllock allong tthe way and my ttiimiing
  oo ba Ma o League baseba Each was a bu d ng b ock a ong he way and my m ng

was grreatt.. Kelllly gott me sttarrtted,, one Trrojjan hellpiing anottherr.. Tom iis 100 perrcentt cllass,, a
was g ea Ke y go me s a ed one T o an he p ng ano he Tom s 100 pe cen c ass a

grreatt guy.. Thatt manttrra rrepeatts iittsellff overr and overr att USC.. Everry ottherr schooll you'rre
g ea guy Tha man a epea s se ove and ove a USC Eve y o he schoo you' e

ttherre ffourr yearrs,, butt you’’rre a Trrojjan fforr lliiffe!! To have somebody rreach outt and menttorr me
  he e ou yea s bu you e a T o an o e To have somebody each ou and men o me

was grreatt.. II'm so tthankffull tto Tom fforr tthe opporrttuniitty.. He made me whatt II am ttoday,,
was g ea 'm so hank u o Tom o he oppo un y He made me wha am oday

whiich iis morre tthan jjustt an ex--ffoottballll pllayerr.. IItt's been grreatt..
wh ch s mo e han us an ex oo ba p aye 's been g ea

             Pette Carrrrolll,, iin my case II can atttestt,, you arre parrtt off tthe Trrojjan ffamiilly.. He getts
             Pe e Ca o n my case can a es you a e pa o he T o an am y He ge s
tthatt.. II've neverr helld a "rregullarr" jjob.. Everry jjob II''ve everr helld,, II neverr ttrrully iintterrviiewed fforr
   ha 've neve he d a " egu a " ob Eve y ob ve eve he d neve u y n e v ewed o
tthe jjob and gone tthrrough a prrocess off hiirriing.. IItt's allways been a Trrojjan who saiid,, "Hey,,
   he ob and gone h ough a p ocess o h ng 's a ways been a T o an who sa d "Hey
come worrk fforr me.." II neverr satt down fforr fforrmall iintterrviiews.. Peoplle woulld gett tto know
 come wo k o me " neve sa down o o ma n e v ews Peop e wou d ge o know
me perrsonallly and say,, "Lett me see whatt you can do.." II'd neverr been iin ffrrontt off a camerra
 me pe sona y and say "Le me see wha you can do " 'd neve been n on o a came a
iin my lliiffe when II gott tthe jjob att Fox.. How do we gett you ttrraiined? Those opporrttuniittiies arre
   n my e when go he ob a Fox How do we ge you a ned? Those oppo un es a e
att USC and sett iitt aparrtt ffrrom so many schoolls.. We have orrganiizattiions,, allumnii cllubs;; iitt's a
 a USC and se apa                    om so many schoo s We have o gan za ons a umn c ubs 's a
biig rreason why anybody shoulld go ttherre.. IItt's a grreatt schooll butt parrtt off huge ffrratterrniitty..
 b g eason why anybody shou d go he e 's a g ea schoo bu pa o huge a e n y
             As an atthllette,, we have a huge advanttage when iitt comes tto worrkiing iin tthe mediia..
             As an a h e e we have a huge advan age when comes o wo k ng n he med a
IItt's a biig mediia marrkett and we gett iintterrviiewed a llott,, much off iitt nattiionalllly.. Ourr nettworrk
     's a b g med a ma ke and we ge n e v ewed a o much o na ona y Ou ne wo k
iis huge,, and kiids att USC gett used tto iitt,, tthey''rre comfforrttablle iin tthatt enviirronmentt..
   s huge and k ds a USC ge used o                     hey e com o ab e n ha env onmen

John "J..J.." Jackson was a ffiirstt tteam Alll--Paciiffiic--10 Confference wiide receiiver iin
John "J J " Jackson was a rs eam A Pac c 10 Con erence w de rece ver n

1989,, won tthe Theodore Gabriiellson award as tthe outtsttandiing pllayer iin tthatt season''s
1989 won he Theodore Gabr e son award as he ou s and ng p ayer n ha season s

Nottre Game game,, and was sellectted ffor tthe Shriine Eastt--Westt Game hiis seniior year..
No re Game game and was se ec ed or he Shr ne Eas Wes Game h s sen or year

J..J.. was an NCAA Posttgraduatte Schollarshiip wiinner,, an NCAA Top Eiightt reciipiientt,,
J J was an NCAA Pos gradua e Scho arsh p w nner an NCAA Top E gh rec p en

a Nattiionall Foundattiion Schollar--Atthllette,, and ttwo--ttiime Academiic Allll--Ameriican
a Na ona Founda on Scho ar A h e e and wo me Academ c A Amer can

((1988--89)).. Jackson pllayed ffor Phoeniix ((1990--92)) and Chiicago ((1996)) iin tthe NFL..
  1988 89 Jackson p ayed or Phoen x 1990 92 and Ch cago 1996 n he NFL

One off tthe bestt allll----around atthllettes iin Trojjan hiisttory,, he allso was a centter ffiiellder on
One o he bes a around a h e es n Tro an h s ory he a so was a cen er e der on

tthe USC baseballl tteam who wentt on tto tthe San Franciisco and Calliifforniia
  he USC baseba eam who wen on o he San Franc sco and Ca orn a

organiizattiions.. He iis now a popullar,, welll--regarded sporttscastter ffor Fox Sportts,,
organ za ons He s now a popu ar we regarded spor scas er or Fox Spor s

where he speciialliizes iin USC,, siidelliine reporttage and majjor hiigh schooll games wiitth
where he spec a zes n USC s de ne repor age and ma or h gh schoo games w h
Jiim Wattson.. Hiis ffatther,, allso named John Jackson,, was an assiisttantt USC ffoottballl
J m Wa son H s a her a so named John Jackson was an ass s an USC oo ba

coach..
coach


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SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000



Former USC Trojjan Jeffff Ciiriilllo was a hiidden nuggett iin Miillwaukee who now putts up biig
Former USC Tro an Je C r o was a h dden nugge n M waukee who now pu s up b g
numbers att Coors Fiielld
numbers a Coors F e d
      Robiin Yountt pllayed 20 years iin tthe anonymiitty off Miillwaukee.. When ffans read off
       Rob n Youn p ayed 20 years n he anonym y o M waukee When ans read o

hiis accomplliishmentts att hiis 1999 Halll off Fame iinducttiion,, iitt was lliike breakiing open olld
h s accomp shmen s a h s 1999 Ha o Fame nduc on was ke break ng open o d

Soviiett archiives:: a revellattiion..
Sov e arch ves a reve a on

Yountt was partt off a diiffferentt era,, a periiod off iin whiich tthere were a ffew ffelllows who
 Youn was par o a d eren era a per od o n wh ch here were a ew e ows who
pllayed on tthe same cllub ttheiir enttiire careers..
 p ayed on he same c ub he r en re careers
Liike Yountt anotther L..A.. productt,, Ciiriilllo,, was putttiing up greatt numbers year iin and year
 L ke Youn ano her L A produc C r o was pu ng up grea numbers year n and year
outt iin Miillwaukee,, butt nobody knew aboutt hiim,, eiitther.. He receiived lliittttlle respectt iin
 ou n M waukee bu nobody knew abou h m e her He rece ved                                  e respec n
Alll--Sttar vottiing,, despiitte a ..307 career average dattiing tto 1994.. The elleventth round piick
 A S ar vo ng desp e a 307 career average da ng o 1994 The e even h round p ck
ffrom tthe 1991 drafftt hiitt ..321 wiitth 15 home runs,, 88 RBIIs and 194 hiitts iin 1999.. He iis a
  rom he 1991 dra h 321 w h 15 home runs 88 RB s and 194 h s n 1999 He s a
sttelllar tthiird baseman who possesses a gun ffor an arm.. Ciiriilllo hiitt ..325 iin 1996 and ..321
 s e ar h rd baseman who possesses a gun or an arm C r o h 325 n 1996 and 321
iin 1998..
  n 1998
Two offff--seasons ago,, Ciiriillllo was ttraded tto tthe hiigh--proffiille Collorado Rockiies,, where he
 Two o seasons ago C r o was raded o he h gh pro e Co orado Rock es where he
now hiitts iin tthe balll--carryiing hiigh aiir off Coors Fiielld.. Wow,, Jeffff,, does tthiis exciitte you?
 now h s n he ba carry ng h gh a r o Coors F e d Wow Je does h s exc e you?
"IItt’’s a challlenge,," saiid Ciiriillllo,, who had jjustt moved iintto a new home iin Redmond,,
 " s a cha enge " sa d C r o who had us moved n o a new home n Redmond
Washiingtton afftter a vacattiion ttriip tto Sun Vallley when II caughtt up wiitth hiim.. "Then II
 Wash ng on a er a vaca on r p o Sun Va ey when caugh up w h h m "Then
sttartted tto tthiink aboutt Miillwaukee,, and II had some regretts,, butt II''m olld enough tto
 s ar ed o h nk abou M waukee and had some regre s bu m o d enough o
understtand tthatt II have a greatt opporttuniitty.. II had some sttrong rellattiionshiips tthere.. Geoffff
 unders and ha have a grea oppor un y had some s rong re a onsh ps here Geo
Jenkiins and II are lliike brotthers,, he was iin my weddiing.. II hope II hellped hiim,, he has a
 Jenk ns and are ke bro hers he was n my wedd ng hope he ped h m he has a
worlld off ttallentt.."
 wor d o a en "
Jenkiins iis partt off tthe SC connecttiion tthatt domiinatted tthe Brewers'' rostter tthe pastt ffew
 Jenk ns s par o he SC connec on ha dom na ed he Brewers ros er he pas ew
seasons.. The otther ex--Trojjan was Bobby Hughes.. Ciiriilllo pllayed wiitth Jenkiins ollder
 seasons The o her ex Tro an was Bobby Hughes C r o p ayed w h Jenk ns o der
brotther,, Brettt att SC ffrom 1988--91..
 bro her Bre a SC rom 1988 91
"The offffensiive sttylle att Coors makes ffor some llong games,," says Ciiriilllo.. "The tthiird base
 "The o ens ve s y e a Coors makes or some ong games " says C r o "The h rd base
coach tthere beffore II came over once ttolld me tthey don''tt see ttheiir ffamiilly much att home,,
 coach here be ore came over once o d me hey don see he r am y much a home
butt II''m olld enough tto understtand tthe posiittiives associiatted wiitth pllayiing tthere.."
 bu m o d enough o unders and he pos ves assoc a ed w h p ay ng here "
Thatt was tthe second ttiime iin a miinutte tthe 31--year olld menttiioned hiis age.. Who does he
 Tha was he second me n a m nu e he 31 year o d men oned h s age Who does he
tthiink he iis,, Metthusellah?
  h nk he s Me huse ah?
"II''ve gottten biigger wiitth weiightt ttraiiniing over tthe years,," he says iin refference tto hiis
 " ve go en b gger w h we gh ra n ng over he years " he says n re erence o h s
iincreased power numbers,, alltthough tthiis guy allways has been a lliine driive hiittter.. He coulld
  ncreased power numbers a hough h s guy a ways has been a ne dr ve h er He cou d
have acttuallly been hurtt by tthe move tto Coors iiff he had ffallllen ffor tthe llong balll syndrome,,
 have ac ua y been hur by he move o Coors he had a en or he ong ba syndrome
butt he was allso jjellped hiitttiing iin tthe same lliine--up wiitth Todd helltton.. Ciiriilllo iis a
 bu he was a so e ped h ng n he same ne up w h Todd he on C r o s a
riightt--handed George Bretttt,, a guy who pounds ttweeners ffor doublles and hard ground
 r gh handed George Bre a guy who pounds weeners or doub es and hard ground
balllls ffor siinglles..
 ba s or s ng es
He does have a handlle on why offffense has domiinatted baseballl iin recentt years..
 He does have a hand e on why o ense has dom na ed baseba n recen years
"IItt''s because off weiightts,," he says.. "Hiittters gett biigger and sttronger,, butt iiff piittchers llose
 " s because o we gh s " he says "H ers ge b gger and s ronger bu p chers ose
ffllexiibiilliitty iitt doesn''tt do tthem any good.. II never used tto work on my upper body when II was
    ex b y doesn do hem any good never used o work on my upper body when was
a piittcher.."
 a p cher "
Ciiriillllo reffers tto hiis sttelllar colllege career,, where he was a power piittcher who woulld ttake
 C r o re ers o h s s e ar co ege career where he was a power p cher who wou d ake
on tthe rolle off clloser,, comiing iin ffrom tthiird base whiille warmiing up iin bettween piittches.. IItt
 on he ro e o c oser com ng n rom h rd base wh e warm ng up n be ween p ches
was acttuallly quiitte a specttaclle!! He hiitt ffor average,, nott power,, and proviided stteady
 was ac ua y qu e a spec ac e He h or average no power and prov ded s eady
lleadershiip..
   eadersh p
Pasadena--born Jefff prepped att ttiiny Proviidence Hiigh iin Burbank,, where he was drafftted
 Pasadena born Je prepped a ny Prov dence H gh n Burbank where he was dra ed
iin tthe 37tth round iin 1987.. He iis allso a handsome deviill who iis marriied and has chiilldren
   n he 37 h round n 1987 He s a so a handsome dev who s marr ed and has ch dren
now,, butt tthere are sttoriies off giirlls callliing hiis lliistted number att alll hours.. He never llacked
 now bu here are s or es o g r s ca ng h s s ed number a a hours He never acked
ffor dattes att USC,, a schooll known ffor iitts beauttiiffull coeds..
   or da es a USC a schoo known or s beau u coeds
"II owe Miike Giilllespiie a llott,," says Ciiriilllo off SC''s coach.. "He ttook a chance on me comiing
 " owe M ke G esp e a o " says C r o o SC s coach "He ook a chance on me com ng
outt off a smallll schooll wiitth supposedlly iinffllatted sttatts.."
 ou o a sma schoo w h supposed y n a ed s a s "
The Trojjan tteams Ciiriilllo pllayed on ffrom 1988--91 were some off tthe mostt ttallentted iin tthe
 The Tro an eams C r o p ayed on rom 1988 91 were some o he mos a en ed n he
hiisttory off collllegiiatte baseballl,, and iinclluded tthe lliikes off ffutture biig lleaguers Brett Boone,,
 h s ory o co eg a e baseba and nc uded he kes o u ure b g eaguers Bre Boone
Damon Bufford,, John Cummiings,, and Mark Smiitth.. Sttiilll,, tthey never made iitt tto tthe Colllege
 Damon Bu ord John Cumm ngs and Mark Sm h S                                    hey never made o he Co ege
Worlld Seriies,, llosiing tto Hawaiii iin tthe ''91 Regiionalls att home.. Some have pllaced tthe bllame
 Wor d Ser es os ng o Hawa n he 91 Reg ona s a home Some have p aced he b ame
on Giillllespiie,, sttattiing tthatt he was ttoo ttiightt iin hiis prosecuttiion off game sttrattegy,, butt Ciiriillllo
 on G esp e s a ng ha he was oo gh n h s prosecu on o game s ra egy bu C r o
had a diiffferentt ttake..
 had a d eren ake
"We had guys who weren''tt tteam pllayers,," he says.. "When some off tthose guys llefftt we wentt
 "We had guys who weren eam p ayers " he says "When some o hose guys e we wen
ffurtther wiitthoutt tthem.."
   ur her w hou hem "
Jeffff made a ffew commentts "offf tthe record,," butt he diid say "iitt''s no secrett Brett Boone and II
 Je made a ew commen s "o he record " bu he d d say " s no secre Bre Boone and
don''tt gett allong.. He''s overratted.. He''s jjustt unbelliievablle.. II don''tt know whatt iitt iis,, iiff he''s jjustt
 don ge a ong He s overra ed He s us unbe evab e don know wha                                         s he s us
gott tthatt biig lleague menttalliitty because hiis dad pllayed tthere.."
 go ha b g eague men a y because h s dad p ayed here "
Where Boone iis cocky and probablly sacriiffiices some batttiing average ffor tthe sake off home
 Where Boone s cocky and probab y sacr ces some ba ng average or he sake o home
runs tthatt are allll ttoo iinffrequentt,, Ciiriilllo diisdaiins "biig fflliies" ffor a stteady sttream off
 runs ha are a oo n requen C r o d sda ns "b g es" or a s eady s ream o
tteam--hellpiing base hiitts..
   eam he p ng base h s
"II gott tthe mostt outt off my collllege experiience,," Ciiriillllo says,, payiing homage tto Giilllespiie.. "II
 " go he mos ou o my co ege exper ence " C r o says pay ng homage o G esp e "
llearned a llott ffrom hiim.. One tthiing aboutt Giilllespiie iis tthatt he tteaches tthe iinttangiiblles;; base
   earned a o rom h m One h ng abou G esp e s ha he eaches he n ang b es base
runniing,, tthe menttall game..
 runn ng he men a game
"The menttall ttransfformattiion,, tthe stteps tthatt go ffrom beiing a cusp pllayer tto beiing an
 "The men a rans orma on he s eps ha go rom be ng a cusp p ayer o be ng an
enttrenched pro,, are iin some ways aboutt ffear and paranoiia.. The ffear off ffaiillure.. Never
 en renched pro are n some ways abou ear and parano a The ear o a ure Never
beiing sattiisffiied.. Never reallly beiing comfforttablle.. A llott off guys have success att tthe A or
 be ng sa s ed Never rea y be ng com or ab e A o o guys have success a he A or
Doublle--A llevell,, butt tthey can''tt make iitt over tthe hump.. Every sttep you ask yoursellff,, ``Can II
 Doub e A eve bu hey can make over he hump Every s ep you ask yourse Can
do iitt..''"
 do "
The 6--2,, 195--pound Ciiriilllo,, a greatt alll--around atthllette,, has allways had tto llook att hiis
 The 6 2 195 pound C r o a grea a around a h e e has a ways had o ook a h s
career realliisttiicalllly..
 career rea s ca y
"When II was drafftted,," he recallls,, "II tthoughtt,, II''lll jjustt giive iitt a shott.. So many guys were
 "When was dra ed " he reca s " hough                                us g ve a sho So many guys were
drafftted ahead off me,, II diidn''tt have a llott off peoplle iin my corner,, nott a llott off money was
 dra ed ahead o me d dn have a o o peop e n my corner no a o o money was
iinvestted iin me,, so II jjustt had a burniing desiire tto show peoplle II had whatt iitt ttook.."
   nves ed n me so us had a burn ng des re o show peop e had wha                                     ook "
Ciiriillllo''s atttiittude has hardened a biitt over tthe years,, probablly because he has had tto work
 C r o s a ude has hardened a b over he years probab y because he has had o work
hiis way pastt pllayers ratted ahead off hiim.. Now he llooks att a llott off peoplle who he knows
 h s way pas p ayers ra ed ahead o h m Now he ooks a a o o peop e who he knows
diid nott belliieve iin hiim att one poiintt,, and whiille he iis sttiilll a genttlleman,, one senses a deffiiniitte
 d d no be eve n h m a one po n and wh e he s s a gen eman one senses a de n e
pro menttalliitty tthatt iis diiffferentt ffrom tthe more rellaxed demeanor off hiis colllege days..
 pro men a y ha s d eren rom he more re axed demeanor o h s co ege days
He makes a llott off money ((Ciiriillllo iis representted by Denniis Giillbertt''s olld ffiirm,, tthe
 He makes a o o money C r o s represen ed by Denn s G ber s o d rm he
hiigh--proffiille Beverlly Hiillls Sportts Counciill)),, and he getts more more Baseballll Toniightt aiir
 h gh pro e Bever y H s Spor s Counc and he ge s more more Baseba Ton gh a r
ttiime now tthatt he bounces ffrozen ropes alll over Coors Fiielld..
    me now ha he bounces rozen ropes a over Coors F e d
Whatt does Giilllespiie have tto say aboutt hiis prottégé?
 Wha does G esp e have o say abou h s pro égé?
"He''s an amaziing sttory.."
 "He s an amaz ng s ory "


                                                         The
                                                         The

                                                   NINETIES
                                                   NINETIES


                                                GENE FRUGE
                                                GENE FRUGE

Nose Guard--Deffensiive Guard
Nose Guard De ens ve Guard
1987 -- 1990
1987 1990
Tiim Ryan was a cllassiic Trrojjan wiitth a cllassiic Trrojjan perrsona:: moviie sttarr good llooks,,
T m Ryan was a c ass c T o an w h a c ass c T o an pe sona mov e s a good ooks

charriismattiic,, marrrriied a Raiiderretttte,, Alll--Amerriican biig man,, prro ffoottballl sttarr and mediia
cha sma c ma ed a Ra de e e A Ame can b g man p o oo ba s a and med a

perrsonalliitty!! None off tthiis woulld have happened wiitthoutt Tiim Ryan.. He was somebody
pe sona y None o h s wou d have happened w hou T m Ryan He was somebody

who ttook me underr hiis wiing,, butt II diidn'tt have tthe coachiing encourragementt ffrrom home..
who ook me unde h s w ng bu d dn' have he coach ng encou agemen om home

He became lliike a brrottherr tto me,, and II was a surrrrogatte memberr off hiis ffamiilly.. We wentt tto
He became ke a b o he o me and was a su oga e membe o h s am y We wen o

Oak Grrove Hiigh Schooll iin San Jose ttogettherr,, and II was att hiis house morre tthan my home..
Oak G ove H gh Schoo n San Jose oge he and was a h s house mo e han my home

Somettiimes he'd nott even be ttherre,, butt II'd viisiitt hiis house and hiis ffamiilly.. II was verry cllose
Some mes he'd no even be he e bu 'd v s h s house and h s am y was ve y c ose

tto hiis ffamiilly,, tthey had a biig iimpactt on me,, nott jjustt fforr ffoottballl butt tthe perrsonall siide off
  o h s am y hey had a b g mpac on me no us o oo ba bu he pe sona s de o

tthiings..
  h ngs

             Tiim lled hiis lliiffe by commandiing autthorriitty.. He lled by examplle.. Alll tthatt he ttouched
             T m ed h s e by command ng au ho y He ed by examp e A ha he ouched

he was grreatt att.. He was an Alll--Amerriican iin baskettballl.. We have a ffrriiendlly compettiittiion,,
he was g ea a He was an A Ame can n baske ba We have a end y compe on

iitt's lliike tthatt,, butt iin my own miind jjustt keepiing up wiitth hiim,, tto be cllose tto hiim,, hellped me
     's ke ha bu n my own m nd us keep ng up w h h m o be c ose o h m he ped me

a llott.. Allll II everr wantted was tto be lliike Tiim.. II diidn'tt have alll tthe hiisttorry lliike he had.. II had
a o A eve wan ed was o be ke T m d dn' have a he h s o y ke he had had

one yearr off ffoottballl.. II was nott ttrraiined,, butt II was a biig olld dude and made ttacklles fforr a llott
one yea o oo ba                was no a ned bu was a b g o d dude and made ack es o a o
off llosses.. Afftterr grraduattiion holles opened up fforr a giiantt guy lliike me,, butt II diidn'tt know
o osses A e g adua on ho es opened up o a g an guy ke me bu d dn' know

anytthiing.. My coach was Lee Evans.. He paiid fforr my atttendiing tthe U..S.. Marriine ffoottballl
any h ng My coach was Lee Evans He pa d o my a end ng he U S Ma ne oo ba

camp,, wherre II llearrned ffundamenttalls.. Thatt gott me goiing.. II''d allways had diisciiplliine.. II''d putt
camp whe e ea ned undamen a s Tha go me go ng d a ways had d sc p ne d pu

my nose down and do whatt needed tto be done.. II llearrned iitt ffrrom Tiim.. He hellped me a llott,,
my nose down and do wha needed o be done ea ned                      om T m He he ped me a o

tto have a pllayerr off hiis calliiberr ahead off me att tthe nextt llevell..
  o have a p aye o h s ca be ahead o me a he nex eve

Two tthiings gott me iintto Souttherrn Calliifforrniia.. Because off my llatte sttattus,, II was nott hiighlly
 Two h ngs go me n o Sou he n Ca o n a Because o my a e s a us was no h gh y
rrecrruiitted,, butt Tiim knew who II was and he made iitt sound lliike USC was tthe pllace tto be,,
   ec u ed bu T m knew who was and he made sound ke USC was he p ace o be
tthe Mecca off ffoottballl.. He wantted tto be parrtt off tthatt.. Some Pac--10 tteams lliike Washiingtton,,
   he Mecca o oo ba He wan ed o be pa o ha Some Pac 10 eams ke Wash ng on
Calliifforrniia,, Arriizona Sttatte,, and Arriizona werre iintterrestted,, butt none off tthe biig name schoolls
 Ca o n a A zona S a e and A zona we e n e es ed bu none o he b g name schoo s
llooked att me,, none off tthe SC's,, Miiamii's orr Miichiigan's off tthe worrlld.. II woulld have been
   ooked a me none o he SC's M am 's o M ch gan's o he wo d wou d have been
happy and conttentt tto go tto one off tthe second--ttiierr prrogrrams,, butt II hearrd tthe Flleettwood
 happy and con en o go o one o he second e p og ams bu hea d he F ee wood
Mac song "Tusk" comiing outt off tthe ttunnell.. II hearrd tthatt and wantted tto be parrtt off iitt.. II
 Mac song "Tusk" com ng ou o he unne hea d ha and wan ed o be pa o
know peoplle know wherre tthatt comes ffrrom.. II was iinspiirred.. Thatt gott me
 know peop e know whe e ha comes om was nsp ed Tha go me
II wentt tto Tiim and II saiid,, "Why nott me?" So we putt ttogettherr a ttape off me pllayiing and
    wen o T m and sa d "Why no me?" So we pu oge he a ape o me p ay ng and
sentt iitt tto USC.. II waiitted tto ffiind outt.. They saw tthatt viideo.. II wrriitte a lletttterr tto Ted Tolllnerr
 sen          o USC wa ed o nd ou They saw ha v deo w e a e e o Ted To ne
perrsonallly iinttrroduciing mysellff as Gene Frruge off Oak Grrove Hiigh Schooll,, and II know Tiim
 pe sona y n oduc ng myse as Gene F uge o Oak G ove H gh Schoo and know T m
Ryan,, II'm a rriightt ttacklle.. II'm herre waiittiing,, butt II hearr notthiing fforr a whiille.. II keep my
 Ryan 'm a gh ack e 'm he e wa ng bu hea no h ng o a wh e keep my
ffiingerrs crrossed,, tthen II gett tthiis llettterr.. They llooked att me and werre iimpressed.. II have Tiim's
    nge s c ossed hen ge h s e e They ooked a me and we e mpressed have T m's
siize and morre speed.. No soonerr diid II gett a llettterr ffrrom USC tthan my maiill bllew up.. When
 s ze and mo e speed No soone d d ge a e e om USC han my ma b ew up When
tthe rrecrruiitterrs hearrd SC was iintterrestted,, tthey knew II had tto be good!! Tiim had a llott tto do
   he ec u e s hea d SC was n e es ed hey knew had o be good T m had a o o do
wiitth iitt..
 w h
 Tim and I come from meager backgrounds. His family did worse than mine, and this was
 a blessing for both, a chance for us to do good for our families. For me, all the good
 things that happened in my life started at Southern Cal. If not for Ryan, I'd never have
 been noticed, but I did gel with the opportunity. What I did was work hard and do the
 best I could. I was very competitive. Tim was an All-American. He got that position on
 the other side. I have an All-Americans in my position, Dan Owens. Where do I want to
 compete? I play nose tackle, I take what they give me, and I'm best at stopping the run.
 Others might have been better was I was more prepared, but I was a late bloomer. I had
 the opportunity as a Trojan. I started slow except for the fact I'd come on late, but I would
 finish strong. Being a Trojan means being at the highest level. I didn't realize it all at
 once, I made same mistakes, and I didn't train as hard as I needed because I didn't know
 what it was until I saw the level of conditioning and dedication at USC. I learned a lot.
 Later, I was one of the top conditioned athletes on the team. People said it would never
 happen for me, but again I'm a late bloomer and was not gonna quit until I'd done all that
 possible. That's What It Means to Be a Trojan!
 It was a valuable lesson to me. To sum up the experience in a nutshell, the statement I
 want to make to bring it all together, the moral of my story is that I went from being
 disciplined, to doing as I was told, to being well trained, to doing different things, to
 doing what you know to be the best thing . . .
 In my early years my conditioning was an issue, but I was "yes sir," I'll do what I'm told,
 and be a typical nose tackle, stuff the gap, close the gap, do the job . . . By the time I
 stopped doing that, and getting off the block to get down field and make tackles behind
 the line of scrimmage, the coaches started looking at me beyond my being a back-up.
 Originally I'd give Don Gibson a breather. I took my job seriously. I did that every day
 until Gibson got hurt. He hurt his knee. I stepped up and was asked to do the job do full
 service, and not just squeeze the middle. All of a sudden I'm doing the opposite step, I'm
 anticipating, I'm making tackles. That's what you do in football, but in our scheme that's
 not your job. In my senior year I learned what I should have known earlier. It wasn't
 enough to be well trained, that 's just not what was called for.
 Against Ohio State I had a great game. Because of Gibson getting hurt leading to the
 1990 Rose Bowl, I became a starter. The coaches were nervous, not sure of my category.
 Do I bang it up and try to do what was right? Larry wanted me to just bottle the middle,
 to let the linebacker do his job.
 When the Rose Bowl came around Don was healed and they sat me down. They put Don
 in. That was it for me, I played no downs. I was stuck all summer long, all through
 spring ball in 1990, the same thing. They told me, "Make no mistakes, up the middle is
 yours." Larry Smith himself came to the sideline and he yanks my facemask, and he's
 yelling in my face, "You've yet to make a tackle! You've yet to do this or that . . ." I can’t
 recall all of it, but he was not pleased.
 "That's all you ever told me to do," I said. I don't understand, it's my senior year, and I
 decide I'm not gonna go back to disciplined training, I'm not just gonna do what I'm told,
 because I knew what I was doing and I did what I knew was best. Sometimes the other
 guy's wrong, and if you don't do what's right there's no ink out of the box, and your
 opponent's are going down.
So,, iin 1990,, tthe ffiirrstt siix games off tthe yearr II sttarrtted worrrryiing aboutt ffoottballll and how II
 So n 1990 he s s x games o he yea s a ed wo y ng abou oo ba and how
can gett tto wherre II wantt.. Ohiio Sttatte was a biig one.. A guy named Beatttiie was opposiitte me..
 can ge o whe e wan Oh o S a e was a b g one A guy named Bea e was oppos e me
II diidn’’tt wanna hearr tthatt II had llett tthatt guy rrun alll overr me.. II had a biig day iin 1990 att Ohiio
    d dn wanna hea ha had e ha guy un a ove me had a b g day n 1990 a Oh o
Sttatte.. II gott an iintterrcepttiion.. Therre was a tthunderrsttorrm and ttherre werre lliighttniing bolltts tthatt
 S a e go an n e cep on The e was a hunde s o m and he e we e gh n ng bo s ha
hiitt tthe ffiielld,, and tthey callled tthe game wiitth a miinutte orr so llefftt,, and we won,, 35--26..
 h he e d and hey ca ed he game w h a m nu e o so e and we won 35 26
Offff tthe ffiielld,, we hung outt att tthe 502 Cllub.. The camarraderriie att tthe "Fiive--oh" was
 O he e d we hung ou a he 502 C ub The cama ade e a he "F ve oh" was
magiicall.. My ffiirrstt yearr II coulldn'tt go iin.. Rex Moorre diid alll tthese crrazy tthiings II hearrd aboutt
 mag ca My s yea cou dn' go n Rex Moo e d d a hese c azy h ngs hea d abou
and II ffiinallly gott tto go iin ttherre mysellff.. IItt was an awesome pllace tthatt made you ffeell mostt
 and na y go o go n he e myse                               was an awesome p ace ha made you ee mos
lliike a Trrojjan.. Therre werre fforrmerr Trrojjans on tthe walll,, piictturres off USC and Nottrre Dame iin
    ke a T o an The e we e o me T o ans on he wa p c u es o USC and No e Dame n
tthe rroom,, pllayerrs iin tthe NFL and guys ffrrom befforre,, pllus alll yourr tteammattes.. Everrybody
   he oom p aye s n he NFL and guys om be o e p us a you eamma es Eve ybody
 knew you Peop e who we e d e ha d o he T o an ad on t was he p ace you wen o
knew you.. Peoplle who werre diie harrd tto tthe Trrojjan ttrradiittiion.. IIt was tthe pllace you wentt tto
be parrtt off tthatt iitt.. IItt was parrtt off tthe communiitty,, allll off us werre rreprresenttattiives off tthe
 be pa o ha                      was pa o he commun y a o us we e ep esen a ves o he
pllayerrs and tthe schooll.. IItt was a pllace tto rrallly arround.. Frriiendshiips werre made and fforrged
 p aye s and he schoo                    was a p ace o a y a ound F endsh ps we e made and o ged
ttherre tthatt llastt a lliiffettiime.. Everry wiin orr lloss,, afftterr iitt was a pllace tto cellebrratte viicttorry orr
   he e ha as a e me Eve y w n o oss a e was a p ace o ce eb a e v c o y o
drrown ourr sorrrrows afftterr a deffeatt..
 d own ou so ows a e a de ea
   You'd see cellebrriittiies iin ttherre.. Marrrriiages werre made iin tthe "Fiive--oh.." The ownerr,, Tony
    You'd see ce eb es n he e Ma ages we e made n he "F ve oh " The owne Tony
Carravallho,, was tthe mostt carrdiinall and golld iindiiviiduall tthatt ttherre everr was.. He was tthe
 Ca ava ho was he mos ca d na and go d nd v dua ha he e eve was He was he
centterr off tthe Trrojjan ffamiilly.. He made iitt possiiblle fforr us,, we coulld hiide iin ttherre and keep iitt
 cen e o he T o an am y He made poss b e o us we cou d h de n he e and keep
prriivatte iiff we diidn'tt wanna deall wiitth crrowds.. We'd come iin att ttwo iin tthe morrniing afftterr a
 p va e we d dn' wanna dea w h c owds We'd come n a wo n he mo n ng a e a
rroad ttrriip and jjustt unwiind.. Ottherr ttiimes ttherre was tthiis exciittementt iin tthe 502:: "Therre's
    oad p and us unw nd O he mes he e was h s exc emen n he 502 "The e's
Charrlles Whiittes .. .. .. ttherre''s O..J.." II mett tthe daughtterr off tthe Unclle Ben rriice empiirre att tthe
 Cha es Wh es                      he e s O J " me he daugh e o he Unc e Ben ce emp e a he
502 Cllub.. Thatt's whatt tthe "Fiive--oh" was fforr me..
 502 C ub Tha 's wha he "F ve oh" was o me
    n many ways was mov ng s ow T m was he b g man on campus bu was no T m
   IIn many ways II was moviing sllow.. Tiim was tthe biig man on campus butt II was nott.. Tiim
worrked wiitth me on my prresence.. Some guys become cocky and arrrrogantt.. II was meek and
 wo ked w h me on my p esence Some guys become cocky and a ogan was meek and
ttiimiid,, butt II saw how ottherrs rrollled and operratted.. II llearrned.. II gott conffiidence.. II was
    m d bu saw how o he s o ed and ope a ed ea ned go con dence was
prracttiicallly affrraiid off giirrlls att ffiirrstt,, tterrrriiffiied off rrejjecttiion.. II gaiined conffiidence,, nott as a
 p ac ca y a a d o g s a s e                                        ed o e ec on ga ned con dence no as a
womaniizerr,, butt Tiim ttaughtt me tto be comfforrttablle wiitth women who gave me good viibes.. II
 woman ze bu T m augh me o be com o ab e w h women who gave me good v bes
perrceiived mysellff as nott verry desiirrablle butt iitt changed fforr me att USC.. II ttallked tto women
 pe ce ved myse as no ve y des ab e bu changed o me a USC a ked o women
on an even pllayiing ffiielld and llearrned II acttuallly was a niice guy.. II''ve carrrriied tthatt wiitth me
 on an even p ay ng e d and ea ned ac ua y was a n ce guy ve ca ed ha w h me
allll tthiis ttiime,, and tthatt comes ffrrom my experriience att USC..
 a h s me and ha comes om my expe ence a USC
II had a "neverr diie" atttiittude giiven tto me ffrrom my parrentts and II buiilltt on iitt att USC.. II ffound
    had a "neve d e" a ude g ven o me om my pa en s and bu on a USC ound
iitt ttherre,, iitt made me a man,, iitt made me outtgoiing,, iitt made me a peoplle perrson.. Now II
       he e made me a man made me ou go ng made me a peop e pe son Now
make iitt my lliiffe,, iin PR and rreall esttatte.. My ffrriiends werre conffiidentt;; Ryan,, Scottt Ross..
 make my e n PR and ea es a e My ends we e con den Ryan Sco Ross
Those guys knew tthey werre grreatt and iitt rrubbed offff.. II spentt a llott off ttiime wiitth botth tthose
 Those guys knew hey we e g ea and ubbed o                                                spen a o o me w h bo h hose
guys and tthey lliiked me..
 guys and hey ked me
The morrall off tthe sttorry iis II wentt ffrrom beiing diisciiplliined,, doiing whatt II was ttolld tto be beiing
 The mo a o he s o y s wen om be ng d sc p ned do ng wha was o d o be be ng
wellll ttrraiined,, and tthen tto whatt iitt iis you tthiink iis bestt.. Allways go back tto tthatt and putt yourr
 we a ned and hen o wha                                 s you h nk s bes A ways go back o ha and pu you
nose down and grriind.. You don'tt have tto be tthe smarrttestt,, tthe cuttestt orr tthe bestt,, butt ttherre iis
 nose down and g nd You don' have o be he sma es he cu es o he bes bu he e s
allways tthatt opttiion tto tthen ttake whatt you llearrned and now calll yourrsellff welll ttrraiined and
 a ways ha op on o hen ake wha you ea ned and now ca you se we a ned and
educatted..
 educa ed


Gene Fruge pllayed on tthree sttraiightt Rose Bowll tteams ((1987--89)) and on a Hancock
Gene Fruge p ayed on hree s ra gh Rose Bow eams 1987 89 and on a Hancock

Bowll tteam hiis seniior year.. The 1989 Trojjans beatt Miichiigan iin tthe Rose Bowll tto
Bow eam h s sen or year The 1989 Tro ans bea M ch gan n he Rose Bow o

ffiiniish eiightth iin tthe nattiion.. They were ranked every year off hiis career.. Hiis bestt
    n sh e gh h n he na on They were ranked every year o h s career H s bes

games were agaiinstt Ohiio Sttatte,, when Troy beatt tthe Buckeyes 42--3 ((1989 iin Los
games were aga ns Oh o S a e when Troy bea he Buckeyes 42 3 1989 n Los

Angelles)) and 35--26,, when hiis key iinttercepttiion hellped seall viicttory att Collumbus..
Ange es and 35 26 when h s key n ercep on he ped sea v c ory a Co umbus


                                             TODD MARINOVICH
                                             TODD MARINOVICH

Quartterback
Quar erback
1989 -- 1990
1989 1990


Thiings arre goiing wellll fforr me.. II'm coachiing young quarrtterrbacks iin Orrange Countty.. II do
Th ngs a e go ng we o me 'm coach ng young qua e backs n O ange Coun y do
prriivatte llessons fforr siixtth and seventth grraderrs.. Bob Johnson att Miissiion Viiejjo has a
p va e essons o s x h and seven h g ade s Bob Johnson a M ss on V e o has a
hiigh--prroffiille camp ttherre,, butt II was neverr parrtt off hiis systtem..
h gh p o e camp he e bu was neve pa o h s sys em
           II was hiighlly rrecrruiitted as has been rreporrtted,, butt iitt was allways assumed II was
              was h gh y ec u ed as has been epo ed bu was a ways assumed was

headiing tto USC.. II rrealllly diidn'tt go tto any ottherr schoolls butt II allmostt rrebellled and wentt tto
head ng o USC ea y d dn' go o any o he schoo s bu a mos ebe ed and wen o

Sttanfforrd.. II lliike Norrttherrn Calliifforrniia and iidenttiiffiied wiitth tthe lliiffesttylle up ttherre.. II wentt on a
S an o d             ke No he n Ca o n a and den ed w h he es y e up he e wen on a
ttrriip tto Sttanfforrd and ttwo "ttrriips" tto USC.. Jack Ellway asked me on a scalle off one tto ffiive,,
      p o S an o d and wo " ps" o USC Jack E way asked me on a sca e o one o ve

whatt werre tthe chances II''d come tto Sttanfforrd,, and II ttolld hiim ffourr,, butt Larrrry Smiitth
wha we e he chances d come o S an o d and o d h m ou bu La y Sm h

putt on hiis bestt suiitt durriing tthe rrecrruiittiing prrocess,, and iitt came down tto pllayiing iin tthe Rose
pu on h s bes su du ng he ec u ng p ocess and came down o p ay ng n he Rose

Bowll.. II jjustt diidn'tt wantt tto come down tto tthe Colliiseum everry yearr and llose lliike John
Bow          us d dn' wan o come down o he Co seum eve y yea and ose ke John

Ellway had done.. Therre was tthatt alllurre off tthe quarrtterrback hiisttorry att Sttanfforrd,, pllus iitt
E way had done The e was ha a u e o he qua e back h s o y a S an o d p us

appealled tto my arrttiisttiic iintterrestts,, whiich had sttarrtted everr siince II was a ffrreshman att Matterr
appea ed o my a s c n e es s wh ch had s a ed eve s nce was a eshman a Ma e

Deii Hiigh Schooll.. II ttrransfferrrred tto Capiisttrrano Valllley Hiigh Schooll as a sophomorre..
De H gh Schoo               ans e ed o Cap s ano Va ey H gh Schoo as a sophomo e

         Whatt a drream tto have pllayed fforr Pette Carrolll and Norrm Chow!! II wentt tto prracttiice
         Wha a d eam o have p ayed o Pe e Ca o and No m Chow wen o p ac ce

and he's a qualliitty guy.. Whatt a drream II ttolld hiim iitt woulld have been.. Thatt attmospherre iis
and he's a qua y guy Wha a d eam o d h m wou d have been Tha a mosphe e s

allllurriing and atttrracttiive.. He makes iitt ffun.. They sttopped prracttiice whiille warrmiing up and he
a u ng and a ac ve He makes un They s opped p ac ce wh e wa m ng up and he

iinttrroduced me tto tthe tteam.. II waved and tthey acknowlledged me.. II''ve nott seen any ottherr
  n oduced me o he eam waved and hey acknow edged me ve no seen any o he

grroup tthatt iis so cllassy..
g oup ha s so c assy

II "rred--shiirrtted" iin 1988.. Wiitth tthe Rodney Peette siittuattiion II wallked iintto,, iitt made alll tthe
   " ed sh ed" n 1988 W h he Rodney Pee e s ua on wa ked n o made a he
diifffferrence iin tthe worrlld.. II had a yearr tto matturre and llearrn ffrrom a guy lliike Rodney whose a
 d e ence n he wo d had a yea o ma u e and ea n om a guy ke Rodney whose a
qualliitty perrson,, tto wattch how he handlled hiimsellff on campus and wiitth tthe mediia.. You
 qua y pe son o wa ch how he hand ed h mse on campus and w h he med a You
llearrn tthrrough experriience.. You can'tt putt a prriice ttag on iitt.. II ttrravelled tthatt yearr,, tthough..
  ea n h ough expe ence You can' pu a p ce ag on                                 ave ed ha yea hough
They ttook me tto alll tthe away games tto giive me a ffeell fforr tthe rroad..
 They ook me o a he away games o g ve me a ee o he oad
My ffiirrstt sttarrtt was tthe 1989 season openerr wiitth IIllliinoiis att tthe Colliiseum.. The game was
 My s s a was he 1989 season opene w h no s a he Co seum The game was
schedulled fforr Moscow,, butt pllans ffelll tthrrough fforr polliittiicall rreasons.. The Berrlliin Walll came
 schedu ed o Moscow bu p ans e h ough o po ca easons The Be n Wa came
down ttwo orr tthrree montths afftterr tthatt game.. We rran a verry conserrvattiive offffense butt
 down wo o h ee mon hs a e ha game We an a ve y conse va ve o ense bu
seemed tto have iitt won,, unttiill Jeffff Georrge gott hott and tthey upsett us,, 14--13..
 seemed o have won un Je Geo ge go ho and hey upse us 14 13
A ffew weeks llatterr came tthe deffiiniing game off my colllegiiatte carreerr,, att Washiingtton Sttatte's
 A ew weeks a e came he de n ng game o my co eg a e ca ee a Wash ng on S a e's
 Ma n S ad um t was an n ense game and we a ed 17 10 w h a coup e m nu es o
Marrttiin Sttadiium.. IIt was an iinttense game and we ttrraiilled,, 17--10,, wiitth a couplle miinuttes tto
go iin tthe ffourrtth quarrtterr.. The noiise was phenomenall..
 go n he ou h qua e The no se was phenomena
The comeback was unbelliievablle.. We werre getttiing rready tto sttop tthem and giive ourrsellves
 The comeback was unbe evab e We we e ge ng eady o s op hem and g ve ou se ves
tthe opporrttuniitty tto drriive fforr tthe wiinniing scorre.. Cllevelland Colltterr was sttandiing on tthe
  he oppo un y o d ve o he w nn ng sco e C eve and Co e was s and ng on he
50--yarrd lliine waiittiing tto cattch tthe puntted balll,, and he's an Alll--Amerriican,, so II''m ffiigurriing
 50 ya d ne wa ng o ca ch he pun ed ba and he's an A Ame can so m gu ng
we'llll have grreatt ffiielld posiittiion.. Butt tthe puntt goes offf hiis head and jjustt bounces and
 we' have g ea e d pos on Bu he pun goes o h s head and us bounces and
bounces and bounces unttiill we rrecoverr iitt on our own eiightt--yard lliine..
 bounces and bounces un we ecove on our own e gh yard ne
 That took all the wind out of my sails and we started out the series 0-for-three. Then I hit
 Gary Wellman for a first down. Wellman pretty much did it all. Wellman and Leroy Holt.
 We did it all with passes and converted four fourth down conversions on that drive. We
 just advanced until we scored a touchdown from three or four yards out. I looked to
 Ricky Ervins in the flat pattern and then came back to Wellman. That made it 17-16 and
 we decided to go for two and the win. We stayed with the same play as the TD and made
 it.
 I didn't call any audibles on that drive. I love two-minute situations. I always enjoyed it
 because I was in the "shotgun." I loved it because I could see the field and was more
 comfortable back there calling my own plays. The coaches called the plays except in a
 two-minute drill. They gave me the green light to do audibles and call my own plays
 because most of the plays came in from a run/play "check with me" from the offensive
 coordinator, but with two minutes we didn't have time to run plays in. Our offensive
 coordinator was either Ray Dorr or John Matsko.
 We returned to Los Angeles after the game, which was played at mid-day. I was
 downstairs at Heritage Hall putting my stuff away when Smith's secretary came down
 and said, "You've got a phone call from President Reagan." I thought it was a joke.
 Reagan had been out of office since January but was at the height of his popularity with
 Communism on the verge of defeat.
 Larry walked out and gave me his office, and I thought this was different. It was Reagan.
 I immediately recognized his voice. He was the in hospital recovering from surgery and
 had watched the whole game, and he had this distinctive way of saying, "Way-uhl, Nancy
 and I enjoyed your game today. You inspired us . . ."
 He played The Gipper and a lot of people thought he was a Notre Dame guy, but
 President Reagan's a Trojan all the way. I was quiet and grateful for the call. The others,
 they thought I was full of crap. As I told the story people still think I was full of crap, but
 guys who were with me at the 502 Club that night all had been there and verified it
 happened.
The enerrgy att Nottrre Dame iin 1989;; one off tthe grreattestt experriiences off my colllege carreerr
 The ene gy a No e Dame n 1989 one o he g ea es expe ences o my co ege ca ee
 was ha s ad um t 's s m a o he Rose Bow The e's no a o o oom be ween he
was tthatt sttadiium.. IIt's siimiillarr tto tthe Rose Bowll.. Therre's nott a llott off rroom bettween tthe
ffiielld and tthe sttands ttherre,, tthe bands and tthe crrowd arre rriightt on you,, and ttheiirr crrowd iis
    e d and he s ands he e he bands and he c owd a e gh on you and he c owd s
knowlledgeablle aboutt when tto gett lloud and when nott tto.. II was wearriing a tturrttlleneck and
 know edgeab e abou when o ge oud and when no o was wea ng a u eneck and
ttwo shiirrtts.. II'm calllliing ffrrom behiind tthe centterr att tthe lliine and II see Chrriis Zorriich,, ttheiirr
   wo sh s 'm ca ng om beh nd he cen e a he ne and see Ch s Zo ch he
Alll--Amerriican,, and he's wearriing a cutt offff--jjerrsey wiitth stteam comiing outt off hiis ffacemask..
 A Ame can and he's wea ng a cu o e sey w h s eam com ng ou o h s acemask
 The he me s a e co d bu hey we e used o t was he s co d game eve p ayed
The hellmetts arre colld butt tthey werre used tto iitt.. IIt was tthe ffiirrstt colld game II everr pllayed,, iitt
was iin llatte Octtoberr.. IItt was nott a rreall ffacttorr butt tthey werre alll barriing ttheiirr arrms and
 was n a e Oc obe                  was no a ea ac o bu hey we e a ba ng he a ms and
llookiing beasttlly.. IItt was one off tthe mostt exciittiing games iin tthe rriivallrry hiisttorry,, butt tthey
   ook ng beas y was one o he mos exc ng games n he va y h s o y bu hey
prrevaiilled,, 28--24 tto knock us outt off tthe nattiionall ttiittlle huntt..
 p eva ed 28 24 o knock us ou o he na ona                             e hun
We pllayed Miichiigan iin tthe 1990 Rose Bowll.. IItt's ffunny,, II don'tt know how II can sum iitt up
 We p ayed M ch gan n he 1990 Rose Bow 's unny don' know how can sum up
 excep he e was no much exc emen t was a comb na on whe e p ayed we bu hey
exceptt ttherre was nott much exciittementt.. IIt was a combiinattiion wherre II pllayed welll butt tthey
tthoughtt Riicky was tthe MVP.. We jjustt brroke ttheiirr backs and conttrrollled tthe ballll att tthe end
   hough R cky was he MVP We us b oke he backs and con o ed he ba a he end
tto wiin,, 17--10.. Whatt ffiinallly sttands outt aboutt tthatt game iis tthatt iitt was Bo Schembechllerr's
   o w n 17 10 Wha na y s ands ou abou ha game s ha was Bo Schembech e 's
llastt game.. As a kiid II wattched hiim fforreverr.. On tthe pllay tthatt sealled iitt,, we made a biig puntt,,
   as game As a k d wa ched h m o eve On he p ay ha sea ed we made a b g pun
and he tthrrew hiis headsett tto tthe grround.. II knew iitt was overr tthen..
 and he h ew h s headse o he g ound knew was ove hen
IIn 1990 II was a Heiisman conttenderr and we werre a nattiionall champiionshiip conttenderr.. We
   n 1990 was a He sman con ende and we we e a na ona champ onsh p con ende We
opened att tthe Kiickoffff Cllassiic nearr New Yorrk Ciitty.. The biig tthiing tthatt sttands outt iis tthatt
 opened a he K cko C ass c nea New Yo k C y The b g h ng ha s ands ou s ha
prriiorr tto tthatt game,, att tthe prre--game meall tthatt afftterrnoon,, USA Today was sprread outt ffrrontt
 p o o ha game a he p e game mea ha a e noon USA Today was sp ead ou on
 on he ab e and he spo s page had my pho o and asked "Ma nov ch swan song? s
on tthe ttablle,, and tthe sporrtts page had my photto and iitt asked,, "Marriinoviich swan song? IIs
tthiis hiis llastt yearr?" II'd nott even tthoughtt aboutt iitt butt tthiirrd--yearr pllayerrs werre comiing outt
   h s h s as yea ?" 'd no even hough abou bu h d yea p aye s we e com ng ou
fforr tthe ffiirrstt ttiime.. We'd llostt Juniiorr Seau and Marrk Carrrriierr,, and tthe paperr brroughtt atttenttiion
   o he s me We'd os Jun o Seau and Ma k Ca e and he pape b ough a en on
ffrrom tthe coachiing sttaffff,, butt iitt wasn'tt my iidea,, iitt was tthe New Yorrk mediia.. We beatt
     om he coach ng s a bu wasn' my dea was he New Yo k med a We bea
Syrracuse and llooked rrealllly good..
Sy acuse and ooked ea y good
We had an all-time shootout with Tommy Maddox and UCLA at the Rose Bowl at the
end of the season. A lot was going on with Smith and I, and he's playing games. He took
Shane Foley to ASU and we only beat 'em, 13-6. The reason given was my attendance,
missing classes, which was a joke because all they go by is G.P.A., but this was the thing
he used to make a pit for me. For what reason, I don't.
They didn't announce I would start the UCLA game until the game that day. I wanted to
make the most of it to prove my worth. That is the best stadium I ever played in, that
Rose Bowl energy is the best. We didn't do much in the first half. I didn't do much but we
broke out in the fourth quarter. Johnnie Morton was the youngest receiver I threw to in
my era, and he just beat this guy on the cover to give me a chance. The main receiver
wasn't clear, so I went to the right guy on the sidelines and gave him a shot at a great
catch.
The last touchdown I was going for Gary while he made a timing/crossing route from the
14 or the 17. We called a time-out and I said, "Let's try Gary up the middle between the
two safeties," but he got bumped at the line of scrimmage so we had to go to the "mack"
side for Johnnie Morton. It was just like catches made by Sam Dickerson to beat UCLA
in 1969, and J.K. McKay's catch to beat Ohio State in the 1975 Rose Bowl. It was my
favorite route since Pop Warner, the corner station.
What It Means to Be a Trojan. The deciding factor on why I went to USC was my
grandfather, "Chief" Henry Fertig, who ran the Huntington Park police department. Chief
asked me, when I'm done playing college football, where did I want to live? I said I
wanted to live in Southern California.
He says "Why make you name n M am o somep ace? t doesn' make sense o go ou
He says,, "Why make yourr name iin Miiamii orr somepllace? IIt doesn'tt make sense tto go outt
off sttatte.." Thatt was tthe deciidiing ffacttorr.. II ffound outt overr tthe yearrs tthatt tthe Trrojjan ffamiilly
o s a e " Tha was he dec d ng ac o                        ound ou ove he yea s ha he T o an am y
exttends llong and ffarr.. Wherreverr II go II am wellcomed wiitth open arrms.. The llove and
ex ends ong and a Whe eve go am we comed w h open a ms The ove and
supporrtt off my ffellllow Trrojjans,, allong wiitth my ffaiitth iin my Lorrd and Saviiorr Jesus Chrriistt,,
suppo o my e ow T o ans a ong w h my a h n my Lo d and Sav o Jesus Ch s
has susttaiined me tthrrough some rreallly ttough ttiimes..
has sus a ned me h ough some ea y ough mes


Todd Mariinoviich sett tthe alll--ttiime nattiionall passiing records,, and was perhaps tthe
Todd Mar nov ch se he a               me na ona pass ng records and was perhaps he

mostt hiighlly--recruiitted,, soughtt--afftter and herallded prep ffoottballl pllayer who ever
mos h gh y recru ed sough a er and hera ded prep oo ba p ayer who ever

lliived comiing outt off Capiisttrano Vallley Hiigh Schooll iin Orange Countty.. Hiis ffatther,,
    ved com ng ou o Cap s rano Va ey H gh Schoo n Orange Coun y H s a her

Marv was tthe capttaiin off tthe 1962 nattiionall champiions.. Hiis unclle coached Patt Haden
Marv was he cap a n o he 1962 na ona champ ons H s unc e coached Pa Haden

and J..K.. McKay att Biishop Amatt Hiigh.. Hiis motther was tthe siistter off Craiig Ferttiig,,
and J K McKay a B shop Ama H gh H s mo her was he s s er o Cra g Fer g

hero off tthe 1964 USC--Nottre Dame game.. Hiis grandffatther,, Henry "Chiieff" Ferttiig,,
hero o he 1964 USC No re Dame game H s grand a her Henry "Ch e " Fer g

was a llegendary ffiigure att Troy.. He possessed perhaps tthe greattestt Trojjan pediigree
was a egendary gure a Troy He possessed perhaps he grea es Tro an ped gree

ever.. Niicknamed "Robo QB" because he had been raiised and nurttured on a stteady
ever N cknamed "Robo QB" because he had been ra sed and nur ured on a s eady
healltth ffood diiett and workoutt regiimen by hiis ffatther,, he was a ffreshman
hea h ood d e and workou reg men by h s a her he was a reshman

Alll--Ameriican who lled tthe Trojjans tto viicttory over Miichiigan iin tthe 1990 Rose Bowll
A Amer can who ed he Tro ans o v c ory over M ch gan n he 1990 Rose Bow

and tthe nextt year engiineered a sttunniing 45--42 wiin over UCLA iin Pasadena.. Todd
and he nex year eng neered a s unn ng 45 42 w n over UCLA n Pasadena Todd

had probllems wiitth Coach Larry Smiitth butt was a ffiirstt round drafftt choiice off All
had prob ems w h Coach Larry Sm h bu was a rs round dra cho ce o A

Daviis and tthe Los Angelles Raiiders,, butt diid nott achiieve success.. Hiis lliiffe has been a
Dav s and he Los Ange es Ra ders bu d d no ach eve success H s e has been a

Shakespearean drama,, butt he appears tto ffound peace tthrough Chriistt,, and ttoday
Shakespearean drama bu he appears o ound peace hrough Chr s and oday

coaches hiigh schooll quartterbacks iin Orange Countty..
coaches h gh schoo quar erbacks n Orange Coun y



                                              SCOTT ROSS
                                              SCOTT ROSS

Insiide Liinebacker
Ins de L nebacker
1987 -- 1990
1987 1990


II was a lliinebackerr att Ell Torro Hiigh Schooll iin Orrange Countty,, whiich iis rrealllly "Trrojjan
   was a nebacke a E To o H gh Schoo n O ange Coun y wh ch s ea y "T o an
counttrry.." II was beiing rrecrruiitted by tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Arriizona,, Coach Chrriis Alllen and ttheiirr
 coun y " was be ng ec u ed by he Un ve s y o A zona Coach Ch s A en and he
head coach,, Larrrry Smiitth rrecrruiitted me.. They werre pushiing harrd,, and Alllen came ffrrom
 head coach La y Sm h ec u ed me They we e push ng ha d and A en came om
Arriizona tto my house.. II had been rrecrruiitted by USC Coach Ted Tollllnerr's crrew,, butt Tolllnerr
 A zona o my house had been ec u ed by USC Coach Ted To ne 's c ew bu To ne
was nott rrecrruiittiing me as harrd as some ottherr schoolls.. Then ttherre was a swiittch.. Tolllnerr
 was no ec u ng me as ha d as some o he schoo s Then he e was a sw ch To ne
was ffiirred earrlly iin 1987,, and Larrrry Smiitth gott tthe USC jjob ttwo weeks llatterr.. So now Coach
 was ed ea y n 1987 and La y Sm h go he USC ob wo weeks a e So now Coach
Alllen was iin my house,, agaiin he'd ttrravelled ffrrom Arriizona,, onlly tthiis ttiime he's rrecrruiittiing
 A en was n my house aga n he'd ave ed om A zona on y h s me he's ec u ng
me fforr USC because he'd come overr wiitth Coach Smiitth.. II was allrready sett on USC.. II had
 me o USC because he'd come ove w h Coach Sm h was a eady se on USC had
been polliitte and lliisttened tto Coach Alllen and tto Arriizona,, butt II was goiing tto USC..
 been po e and s ened o Coach A en and o A zona bu was go ng o USC
           II was a ffrreshman iin 1987,, butt II gott pllayiing ttiime.. Rex Moorre was tthe sttarrttiing
               was a eshman n 1987 bu go p ay ng me Rex Moo e was he s a ng
iinsiide lliinebackerr.. Dellmarr Cheslley backed hiim up.. II diidn'tt ttrravell.. We pllayed tthe Kiickoffff
  ns de nebacke De ma Ches ey backed h m up d dn' ave We p ayed he K cko
Cllassiic iin Eastt Ruttherrfforrd,, New Jerrsey agaiinstt Miichiigan Sttatte,, and II was iin Ensenada
 C ass c n Eas Ru he o d New Je sey aga ns M ch gan S a e and was n Ensenada
wattchiing tthe game.. II wattched Tony Mandarriich brreak Rex Moorre's anklle,, and iitt was lliike
 wa ch ng he game wa ched Tony Manda ch b eak Rex Moo e's ank e and was ke
a Joe Theiismann tthiing,, and II llooked att my ffrriiend and saiid,, "My ''rred--shiirrtt'' season's overr
 a Joe The smann h ng and ooked a my end and sa d "My ed sh season's ove
wiitth.."
 w h"
           On Monday coach saiid,, "Dellmarr's ahead off you.. You'rre numberr ttwo.. Gett rready.."
             On Monday coach sa d "De ma 's ahead o you You' e numbe wo Ge eady "
II pllayed on speciiall tteams,, and ffiive games orr so iintto tthe season we ttrravelled tto Soutth Bend
   p ayed on spec a eams and ve games o so n o he season we ave ed o Sou h Bend
tto pllay Nottrre Dame.. II'm 218 pounds.. Nottrre Dame's rrunniing up tthe miiddlle.. Dellmarr's
  o p ay No e Dame 'm 218 pounds No e Dame's unn ng up he m dd e De ma 's
gettttiing hiis buttt kiicked,, so tthe assiisttantt coach was ffurriious,, he was spiitttiing mad..
 ge ng h s bu k cked so he ass s an coach was u ous he was sp ng mad
           "Gett me a lliinebackerr who can ffiilll tthatt holle,," he scrreams,, and he jjustt llooked att me
             "Ge me a nebacke who can                   ha ho e " he sc eams and he us ooked a me
and saiid,, "Ross,, gett iin ttherre.." II''m a ffrreshman and iitt's my ffiirrstt game,, vs.. Nottrre Dame.. II
 and sa d "Ross ge n he e " m a eshman and 's my s game vs No e Dame
pllayed tthe rrestt off tthatt game and sttopped tthe rrun.. We llostt butt II neverr llostt tthe sttarrttiing
 p ayed he es o ha game and s opped he un We os bu neve os he s a ng
posiittiion agaiin afftterr tthatt..
 pos on aga n a e ha
           II'd worre numberr 64 because off Hacksaw Reynollds,, butt herre II was,, II was sttarrttiing
              'd wo e numbe 64 because o Hacksaw Reyno ds bu he e was was s a ng
and II gott acceptted iintto tthe seniiorr upperr cllass.. Therre werre excepttiions.. Marrcus Cottton
 and go accep ed n o he sen o uppe c ass The e we e excep ons Ma cus Co on
diidn'tt apprreciiatte a ffrreshman rrunniing tthe huddlle,, butt Rex saiid numberr 35 was a
 d dn' app ec a e a eshman unn ng he hudd e bu Rex sa d numbe 35 was a
llongsttandiing lliinebackerr numberr att USC,, so II wentt ffrrom wearriing numberr 64 tto numberr
   ongs and ng nebacke numbe a USC so wen om wea ng numbe 64 o numbe
35..
 35
               Ourr quarrtterrback was Rodney Peette,, who II descrriibed as tthe mostt modestt
                Ou qua e back was Rodney Pee e who desc bed as he mos modes
"Hollllywood pllayerr" you coulld iimagiine.. He ffiitt tthe iimage off tthe USC ffoottballl pllayerr;;
 "Ho ywood p aye " you cou d mag ne He                                he mage o he USC oo ba p aye
good--llookiing,, charriismattiic,, a lleaderr,, arrttiicullatte.. He was lliike a moviie sttarr,, lliike whatt a
 good ook ng cha sma c a eade a cu a e He was ke a mov e s a ke wha a
casttiing agentt woulld rrecommend tto pllay a quarrtterrback iin a ffoottballll moviie..
 cas ng agen wou d ecommend o p ay a qua e back n a oo ba mov e
               Rodney neverr llooked down on anybody.. He knew II was iinsecurre,, butt he prropped
                Rodney neve ooked down on anybody He knew was nsecu e bu he p opped
me up.. He was one off tthe bestt pllayerrs II everr pllayed wiitth.. He was a seniiorr iin 1988,, he
 me up He was one o he bes p aye s eve p ayed w h He was a sen o n 1988 he
allways had a smiille,, he allways encourraged you.. He was so verrsattiille.. Rodney was a
 a ways had a sm e he a ways encou aged you He was so ve sa e Rodney was a
superriiorr atthllette,, a grreatt baseballl pllayerr.. Att ffiirrstt he'd been a rrunniing quarrtterrback butt he
 supe o a h e e a g ea baseba p aye A s he'd been a unn ng qua e back bu he
coulld tthrrow tthe ballll,, ttoo,, and was a prro prrospectt.. II pllayed wiitth Juniiorr Seau,, Wiillliie
 cou d h ow he ba oo and was a p o p ospec p ayed w h Jun o Seau W e
McGiinestt and Tiim Ryan,, butt Rodney was tthe bestt alll--arround atthllette and lleaderr.. He was
 McG nes and T m Ryan bu Rodney was he bes a a ound a h e e and eade He was
morre lliike tthe Bo Jackson off USC,, verry verrsattiille,, and he was tthe polliittiiciian off ourr tteam..
 mo e ke he Bo Jackson o USC ve y ve sa e and he was he po c an o ou eam
He knew how tto ttallk tto everrybody,, how tto encourrage peoplle.. He was diipllomattiic and
 He knew how o a k o eve ybody how o encou age peop e He was d p oma c and
hellped make tthe tteam worrk.. Juniiorr was quiiett,, nott a lleaderr off tthe tteam tthe way Rodney
 he ped make he eam wo k Jun o was qu e no a eade o he eam he way Rodney
was..
 was
                n 1987 we we e y ng o es ab sh ou se ves UCLA was n he m dd e o a
               IIn 1987,, we werre ttrryiing tto esttablliish ourrsellves.. UCLA was iin tthe miiddlle off a
sttrrong rrun.. Trroy Aiikman was ttheiirr quarrtterrback,, and underr Coach Terrrry Donahue,, tthey
 s ong un T oy A kman was he qua e back and unde Coach Te y Donahue hey
had beatten USC ffourr off ffiive yearrs and won tthe Rose Bowll a ffew ttiimes,, and ttherre was
 had bea en USC ou o ve yea s and won he Rose Bow a ew mes and he e was
ttallk iin Los Angelles tthatt tthe Brruiins now had tthe bettterr ffoottballll prrogrram.. We'd gone
   a k n Los Ange es ha he B u ns now had he be e oo ba p og am We'd gone
tthrrough tthe ffiirriing off ourr coach and werre sttrrugglliing.. We entterred tthe UCLA game att tthe
   h ough he ng o ou coach and we e s ugg ng We en e ed he UCLA game a he
Colliiseum underrdogs butt wiitth a chance tto gett tto tthe Rose Bowll wiitth an upsett..
 Co seum unde dogs bu w h a chance o ge o he Rose Bow w h an upse
               Thatt game was tthe bestt tthiing iin tthe worrlld.. We rrallliied and came ffrrom behiind
                Tha game was he bes h ng n he wo d We a ed and came om beh nd
agaiinstt tthem.. Rodney had a pass piicked offff,, a hearrttbrreakiing pllay wherre we coulld have
 aga ns hem Rodney had a pass p cked o a hea b eak ng p ay whe e we cou d have
been rriightt back iin iitt butt iitt was piicked and rran back allmostt tthe llengtth off tthe ffiielld,, butt
 been gh back n bu was p cked and an back a mos he eng h o he e d bu
Rodney chased hiim down and ttacklled hiim yarrds ffrrom tthe end zone befforre tthe gun
 Rodney chased h m down and ack ed h m ya ds om he end zone be o e he gun
 sounded t was a sw ng o us and hey cou dn' sco e w h me exp ed Rodney b ough
sounded.. IIt was a swiing fforr us and tthey coulldn'tt scorre wiitth ttiime expiirred.. Rodney brroughtt
us allll tthe way back,, we won 17--13,, and wentt tto tthe Rose Bowll..
 us a he way back we won 17 13 and wen o he Rose Bow
               II hadn'tt rrealliized tthe magniittude off tthatt game when you'rre 18 orr 19,, butt herre we've
                  hadn' ea zed he magn ude o ha game when you' e 18 o 19 bu he e we've
beatten Trroy Aiikman,, and Terrrry Donahue was currlled up iin tthe ffettall posiittiion,, crryiing iin tthe
 bea en T oy A kman and Te y Donahue was cu ed up n he e a pos on c y ng n he
ttunnell afftterr tthe game.. II ffelltt fforr hiim butt II diid llaugh,, II gave a lliitttlle sniickerr,, because iitt was
   unne a e he game e o h m bu d d augh gave a                                               e sn cke because was
a sweett wiin.. We knew whatt iitt was lliike tto be humblled..
 a swee w n We knew wha was ke o be humb ed
                n 1988 we had na ona champ onsh p asp a ons Rodney and A kman we e on
               IIn 1988 we had nattiionall champiionshiip aspiirrattiions.. Rodney and Aiikman werre on
everry magaziine coverr,, tthe ttwo Heiisman hopeffulls.. Earrlly iin tthe season we beatt Okllahoma
 eve y magaz ne cove he wo He sman hope u s Ea y n he season we bea Ok ahoma
and UCLA beatt Nebrraska,, and we botth ascended tto one--ttwo iin tthe pollls,, so tthe wholle
 and UCLA bea Neb aska and we bo h ascended o one wo n he po s so he who e
season ttherre was tthiis anttiiciipattiion off a showdown fforr alll tthe marrblles.. IItt seemed lliike iitt
 season he e was h s an c pa on o a showdown o a he ma b es seemed ke
was one off tthose Calliifforrniia seasons tthatt happen everry so offtten.. The Lakerrs won tthe NBA
 was one o hose Ca o n a seasons ha happen eve y so o en The Lake s won he NBA
ttiittlle,, Sttanfforrd won tthe Colllege Worrlld Serriies,, tthe Dodgerrs beatt Oaklland iin tthe Worrlld
        e S an o d won he Co ege Wo d Se es he Dodge s bea Oak and n he Wo d
Serriies and tthe 49errs won tthe Superr Bowll,, so iitt seemed lliike USC--UCLA was a natturrall iin
 Se es and he 49e s won he Supe Bow so seemed ke USC UCLA was a na u a n
'88..
 '88
               Fiinallly,, we gett tto tthe UCLA game att tthe Rose Bowll.. IItt's gonna be Peette vs..
                F na y we ge o he UCLA game a he Rose Bow 's gonna be Pee e vs
Aiikman fforr tthe Heiisman Trrophy.. The wiinnerr off tthe game wiillll be confferrence champiion,,
 A kman o he He sman T ophy The w nne o he game w be con e ence champ on
prrobablly be rranked numberr one orr att tthe lleastt pllay iin tthe Rose Bowll fforr tthe nattiionall ttiittlle..
 p obab y be anked numbe one o a he eas p ay n he Rose Bow o he na ona                                                     e
Peoplle arre ttallkiing aboutt tthe 1967 USC--UCLA game,, O..J.. Siimpson vs.. Garry Beban,, and
 Peop e a e a k ng abou he 1967 USC UCLA game O J S mpson vs Ga y Beban and
you can'tt pllay a biiggerr,, morre hiigh--prressurre colllege ffoottballl game.. The iinttensiitty,, tthe
 you can' p ay a b gge mo e h gh p essu e co ege oo ba game The n ens y he
mediia buzz,, was overr tthe ttop..
 med a buzz was ove he op
             So whatt happens? Rodney Peette getts tthe measlles.. IItt coulldn'tt have happened tto a
              So wha happens? Rodney Pee e ge s he meas es cou dn' have happened o a
betttterr guy.. We rralllliied behiind Rodney,, lliike we knew we'd have tto pllay as a tteam and nott
 be e guy We a ed beh nd Rodney ke we knew we'd have o p ay as a eam and no
rrelly on ourr sttarr iin orrderr tto wiin.. Forr tthe deffense,, we iincrreased ourr iinttensiitty,, ourr urrgency
   e y on ou s a n o de o w n Fo he de ense we nc eased ou n ens y ou u gency
tto gett tto tthe Rose Bowll game on New Yearr's Day iiff we do tthiis.. Ourr bestt guy iis siick so
   o ge o he Rose Bow game on New Yea 's Day we do h s Ou bes guy s s ck so
we ffiigurred we can'tt llett iitt gett away.. We have tto sttop Trroy Aiikman..
 we gu ed we can' e ge away We have o s op T oy A kman
             We diid jjustt tthatt.. IItt was kiind off a mediiocrre wiin,, nott a biig crrushiing,, butt we
              We d d us ha                was k nd o a med oc e w n no a b g c ush ng bu we
conttrrolllled tthem,, 31--22.. Rodney''s sttattiisttiics werre nott grreatt.. He rrecoverred enough tto pllay,,
 con o ed hem 31 22 Rodney s s a s cs we e no g ea He ecove ed enough o p ay
butt we won as a tteam.. No soonerr do we wiin tthatt game,, we have tto pllay Nottrre Dame att
 bu we won as a eam No soone do we w n ha game we have o p ay No e Dame a
tthe Colliiseum one week llatterr.. Thiis iis a uniique aspectt off USC ffoottballll.. Ottherr tteams pllay
   he Co seum one week a e Th s s a un que aspec o USC oo ba O he eams p ay
one biig rriivallrry game.. Ohiio Sttatte gearrs up fforr Miichiigan,, Auburrn--Allabama.. Even Nottrre
 one b g va y game Oh o S a e gea s up o M ch gan Aubu n A abama Even No e
Dame iis gearriing up fforr us att tthe end,, att lleastt iin even yearrs,, butt iin tthose yearrs we have tto
 Dame s gea ng up o us a he end a eas n even yea s bu n hose yea s we have o
pllay UCLA and Nottrre Dame iin consecuttiive weeks.. Whatt ottherr prrogrram iin tthe counttrry
 p ay UCLA and No e Dame n consecu ve weeks Wha o he p og am n he coun y
woulld everr putt iittsellff tthrrough sometthiing lliike tthatt?
 wou d eve pu se h ough some h ng ke ha ?
             Allll season iin 1988 iitt was USC--UCLA,, Peette vs.. Aiikman.. Now we''ve beatten
              A season n 1988 was USC UCLA Pee e vs A kman Now we ve bea en
tthem,, and iitt was lliike,, oh man,, Nottrre Dame's unbeatten,, ttoo and we have tto beatt tthem ttoo,,
   hem and was ke oh man No e Dame's unbea en oo and we have o bea hem oo
iiff we wantt tto achiieve ourr goalls.. IItt's harrd tto say iitt was a llett down vs.. Nottrre Dame.. IItt's sttiillll
      we wan o ach eve ou goa s 's ha d o say was a e down vs No e Dame 's s
Nottrre Dame.. II pllayed welll,, butt II can see how you llook att tthe wholle tteam and we llostt
 No e Dame p ayed we bu can see how you ook a he who e eam and we os
ourrsellves.. II tthiink as a tteam,, as a wholle,, we had won tthe "Superr Bowll off L..A..,," and tthen
 ou se ves h nk as a eam as a who e we had won he "Supe Bow o L A " and hen
have tto pllay a grreatt Nottrre Dame tteam.. Trrojjans don'tt make excuses,, many USC tteams
 have o p ay a g ea No e Dame eam T o ans don' make excuses many USC eams
have done whatt we had tto do,, butt iitt's sorrtt off lliike a baseballl tteam tthatt getts on a hiitttiing
 have done wha we had o do bu 's so o ke a baseba eam ha ge s on a h ng
sttrreak,, peaks,, tthen hiitts a llulll.. A llott off guys werre sttiilll on a hiigh..
 s eak peaks hen h s a u A o o guys we e s on a h gh
               t 's no so much a ac o n he p os as s n co ege whe e you s p ay on
             IIt's nott so much a ffacttorr iin tthe prros as iitt iis iin colllege,, wherre you sttiilll pllay on
emottiion.. You pllay iin ffrrontt off 80 tto 100,,00 ffans,, and an averrage pllayerr pllays excepttiionall,,
 emo on You p ay n on o 80 o 100 00 ans and an ave age p aye p ays excep ona
and an excepttiionall pllayerr pllays outt off hiis miind.. IIn tthe prros you have tto pllay excepttiionall
 and an excep ona p aye p ays ou o h s m nd n he p os you have o p ay excep ona
allll tthe ttiime.. Butt fforr 20--yearr ollds iitt’’s a llott tto ask..
 a he me Bu o 20 yea o ds s a o o ask
             Peette hurrtt hiis shoullderr iin tthe 1988 game wiitth Nottrre Dame.. II rrememberr hiim hurrtt,,
              Pee e hu h s shou de n he 1988 game w h No e Dame emembe h m hu
butt tto ttelll tthe ttrrutth,, as much as we werre a tteam,, tthe deffense iis consumed wiitth deffense,, so
 bu o e he u h as much as we we e a eam he de ense s consumed w h de ense so
we llett tthe offffense allone,, you don'tt meddlle iin tthe offffense.. We werre down tthrree att tthe hallff
 we e he o ense a one you don' medd e n he o ense We we e down h ee a he ha
and iitt was anybody's game,, even tthough Rodney was hurrtt and nott pllayiing grreatt,, butt tthey
 and was anybody's game even hough Rodney was hu and no p ay ng g ea bu hey
domiinatted us iin tthe second hallff,, iintterrceptted hiis pass and rran iitt back,, and we llostt,, 27--10..
 dom na ed us n he second ha n e cep ed h s pass and an back and we os 27 10
IItt's ttough tto be morre down tthan we werre,, because tthe nattiionall champiionshiip was ttaken
     's ough o be mo e down han we we e because he na ona champ onsh p was aken
ffrrom us and ourr biiggestt rriivall,, tthe Fiighttiing IIrriish,, now had tthe iinsiide ttrrack att iitt.. Thatt was
     om us and ou b gges va he F gh ng sh now had he ns de ack a                                              Tha was
Lou Hollttz's tteam.. II rrememberr scrreamiing att Hollttz on tthe ffiielld.. We knew each ottherr.. The
 Lou Ho z's eam emembe sc eam ng a Ho z on he e d We knew each o he The
iinttensiitty getts up and iitt's harrd tto llose tto tthem,, especiiallly on ourr home tturrff..
   n ens y ge s up and 's ha d o ose o hem espec a y on ou home u
             So much was llostt tthatt day.. The nattiionall ttiittlle,, and alll off a sudden Rodney's
              So much was os ha day The na ona                           e and a o a sudden Rodney's
Heiisman.. IItt was lliike,, he was gonna wiin iitt afftterr beattiing Aiikman,, butt outt off no wherre
 He sman was ke he was gonna w n a e bea ng A kman bu ou o no whe e
Barrrry Sanderrs att Okllahoma Sttatte has quiiettlly been putttiing up iincrrediiblle rrushiing ttottalls..
 Ba y Sande s a Ok ahoma S a e has qu e y been pu ng up nc ed b e ush ng o a s
Now tthatt Rodney had a bad game on tthe biig sttage,, Sanderrs won iitt..
 Now ha Rodney had a bad game on he b g s age Sande s won
             We sttiilll wentt tto tthe Rose Bowll agaiinstt Miichiigan.. IItt gott tto be tthe norrm goiing tto
              We s wen o he Rose Bow aga ns M ch gan go o be he no m go ng o
tthe Rose Bowll fforr me.. II wentt afftterr tthe 1987,, 1988 and 1989 seasons.. II can'tt say we llett
   he Rose Bow o me wen a e he 1987 1988 and 1989 seasons can' say we e
down agaiinstt Miichiigan afftterr llosiing tto Nottrre Dame iin '88.. We lled 14--3 and seemed tto be
 down aga ns M ch gan a e os ng o No e Dame n '88 We ed 14 3 and seemed o be
iin conttrroll,, butt tthey rralllliied and beatt us.. Peoplle saiid we werre uniinspiirred because we werre
   n con o bu hey a ed and bea us Peop e sa d we we e un nsp ed because we we e
nott pllayiing fforr numberr one,, butt iitt's sttiilll tthe Rose Bowll so II doubtt tthatt..
 no p ay ng o numbe one bu 's s                              he Rose Bow so doub ha
             Larrrry Smiitth was unsung.. He ttook me tto tthrree Rose Bowlls.. He was a ttough coach..
              La y Sm h was unsung He ook me o h ee Rose Bow s He was a ough coach
We wentt ffulll speed iin prracttiice iiff he tthoughtt we werre getttiing sofftt.. He was grreatt wiitth
 We wen u speed n p ac ce he hough we we e ge ng so He was g ea w h
Peette,, tthe ttwo off tthem communiicatted welll.. They werre on tthe same llevell,, butt he was a
 Pee e he wo o hem commun ca ed we They we e on he same eve bu he was a
lliittttlle conserrvattiive.. He gott conserrvattiive wiitth Todd Marriinoviich..
          e conse va ve He go conse va ve w h Todd Ma nov ch
              II competted agaiinstt Todd iin Orrange Countty hiigh schooll balll.. II was att Ell Torro and
                 compe ed aga ns Todd n O ange Coun y h gh schoo ba                    was a E To o and

he ttrransfferrrred tto San Juan Capiisttrrano,, wherre he sett everry nattiionall rrecorrd and was tthe
he ans e ed o San Juan Cap s ano whe e he se eve y na ona eco d and was he

biiggestt prrep rrecrruiitt maybe off allll ttiimes.. The expecttattiions fforr hiim werre offff tthe charrtts.. Hiis
b gges p ep ec u maybe o a mes The expec a ons o h m we e o he cha s H s

dad,, Marrv Marriinoviich,, had pllayed att USC.. Todd was lliitterrallly a SCiion,, Trrojjan rroyalltty on
dad Ma v Ma nov ch had p ayed a USC Todd was e a y a SC on T o an oya y on

botth siides off hiis ffamiilly,, borrn and brred tto pllay quarrtterrback fforr USC.. Hiis dad conttrrolllled
bo h s des o h s am y bo n and b ed o p ay qua e back o USC H s dad con o ed

everry aspectt off hiis lliiffe,, whatt he atte,, hiis worrkoutts,, hiis prreparrattiion,, butt when Todd llefftt
eve y aspec o h s e wha he a e h s wo kou s h s p epa a on bu when Todd e

home he was gonna do whatt he wantted..
home he was gonna do wha he wan ed

         Smith and Todd; the two of them didn't communicate. If Todd would have his way

he'd run shoots, trick plays, and he'd change plays in the huddle. Larry'd go nuts even if it

worked and Todd would gain 20 yards.

        In 1989, no one remembers the season opener vs. Illinois. Todd was a "red-shirt"
freshman and he starts. Jeff George was Illinois' quarterback. We led 13-0 but Smith
didn't let Todd open up. We just ran the ball and held them on defense, but late in the
game George starts to bring them back, and we go into a "prevent defense." With 1:30
left they had a third down and they needed a touchdown. Jeff threw a lightning strike
over my head. I jumped up and got ahold of the ball, tipping it, and Mark Carrier was
behind me ready to intercept the ball, and their receiver went up and caught the ball and
went into the end zone. If I'd let it go Carrier would have intercepted it and we'd have
won.
        Todd's best game at USC may have been the 28-24 loss at Notre Dame in 1989.

That was a tough pill to swallow. Smith's conservative approach never really meshed

with Todd, who was more of a "West Coast offense" guy, a freelancer who was good at

reading defenses. We beat Michigan, 17-10 in the 1990 Rose Bowl, to finish 9-2-1. It was

a surreal experience. There was a picture of me in the Los Angeles Times, on the front

page, and that was the highlight of my career. We beat Bo Schembechler in his last game.

We couldn't have beaten a bunch of better guys. We ran into those guys from Michigan
out in L.A. a few nights earlier, plus there was the "Beef Bowl" at Lowry's Prime Rib. It

was a good win, but my senior year we go to the John Hancock Bowl and the season was

a disappointment.

          We had hiigh hopes fforr a nattiionall champiionshiip and Todd was a Heiisman
          We had h gh hopes o a na ona champ onsh p and Todd was a He sman

candiidatte.. We opened wiitth a biig 34--16 wiin back iin New Yorrk overr Syrracuse iin tthe
cand da e We opened w h a b g 34 16 w n back n New Yo k ove Sy acuse n he

Kiickoffff Cllassiic,, butt we rran iintto tthatt grreatt Don James tteam att Washiingtton.. They beatt us
K cko C ass c bu we an n o ha g ea Don James eam a Wash ng on They bea us

iin Seattttlle and everrytthiing crrumblled.. Todd and Coach Smiitth arrgued.. Juniiorr Seau siigned
  n Sea e and eve y h ng c umb ed Todd and Coach Sm h a gued Jun o Seau s gned

afftterr hiis jjuniiorr yearr so he was nott wiitth us.. We beatt Tommy Maddox and UCLA,, 45--42..
a e h s un o yea so he was no w h us We bea Tommy Maddox and UCLA 45 42

Thatt was Todd's grreattestt momentt,, butt we llostt agaiin tto Nottrre Dame and tthen we werre
Tha was Todd's g ea es momen bu we os aga n o No e Dame and hen we we e

uniinspiirred iin tthe Hancock Bowll.. Todd and Smiitth arrgued on TV and tthatt was tthatt..
un nsp ed n he Hancock Bow Todd and Sm h a gued on TV and ha was ha

          Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan? II don’’tt tthiink ttherre's a bettterr cllub orr camarraderriie
          Wha Means o Be a Tro an? don h nk he e's a be e c ub o cama ade e

ottherr tthan tthe U..S.. miilliittarry when iitt comes tto a hellpiing hand.. Therre's no one bettterr when
o he han he U S m a y when comes o a he p ng hand The e's no one be e when

iitt comes tto tthatt,, tthey allll wantt tto hellp,, tto cattch a game wiitth me.. II have ffrriiends iin tthe
     comes o ha hey a wan o he p o ca ch a game w h me have ends n he

allumnii who arre 80,, and ttherre iis a connecttiion wiitth peoplle ttherre,, we brreak down wallls
a umn who a e 80 and he e s a connec on w h peop e he e we b eak down wa s

wiitth each ottherr,, open up and tthey hellp you..
w h each o he open up and hey he p you

          When II had tto come back tto USC tto gett my degrree II calllled tthe Orrange Countty
          When had o come back o USC o ge my deg ee ca ed he O ange Coun y

Trrojjan Foottballll Cllub and tthey came up wiitth money ffrrom tthe John Wayne schollarrshiip
T o an Foo ba C ub and hey came up w h money om he John Wayne scho a sh p

ffund,, whiich paiid my way tto gett my degrree.. II neverr woulld have grraduatted wiitthoutt ttheiirr
  und wh ch pa d my way o ge my deg ee neve wou d have g adua ed w hou he

hellp..
he p

           The generrattiion gap ttottalllly brreaks down due tto tthe USC connecttiion.. II became bestt
           The gene a on gap o a y b eaks down due o he USC connec on became bes
ffrriiends wiitth an 80--yearr olld guy whose 45 yearrs ollderr tthatt me,, butt he lliived tthrrough tthe
      ends w h an 80 yea o d guy whose 45 yea s o de ha me bu he ved h ough he
Grreatt Deprressiion and coulld rrellatte tto my prrobllems and we jjustt hiitt iitt offff..
 G ea Dep ess on and cou d e a e o my p ob ems and we us h                                  o
           Pette Carrrrolll iis rremarrkablle.. He iinttuiittiivelly underrsttands tthiis and iincorrporrattes iitt iintto
           Pe e Ca o s ema kab e He n u ve y unde s ands h s and nco po a es n o
hiis phiillosophy.. II was wiitth some off tthe youngerr guys llastt yearr befforre tthe season,, and II
 h s ph osophy was w h some o he younge guys as yea be o e he season and
 cou dn' be eve he se d sc p ne t was no ha sh bu was some h ng hey wan ed
coulldn'tt belliieve tthe sellff--diisciiplliine.. IIt was nott harrsh,, butt iitt was sometthiing tthey wantted
and needed,, and he gave iitt tto tthem iin a way tthey acceptted.. The tthiings tthey do iin tthe
 and needed and he gave o hem n a way hey accep ed The h ngs hey do n he
offff--season,, II tthoughtt was wonderrffull tthatt tthey gett up att siix iin tthe morrniing tto go rrunniing..
 o season hough was wonde u ha hey ge up a s x n he mo n ng o go unn ng
He makes surre tthey''rre nott outt parrttyiing,, rrunniing amok,, and II coulldn'tt belliieve tthe
 He makes su e hey e no ou pa y ng unn ng amok and cou dn' be eve he
diisciiplliine tthey iimpose upon tthemsellves and upon each ottherr..
 d sc p ne hey mpose upon hemse ves and upon each o he
            II attttended a ffoottballl eventt att Phiill Trraiinii's rresttaurrantt iin Long Beach,, and tthey werre
                a ended a oo ba even a Ph T a n 's es au an n Long Beach and hey we e
diisciiplliined iin tthatt enviirronmentt.. They had tthiis grreatt demeanorr,, ttherre was no allcoholl
 d sc p ned n ha env onmen They had h s g ea demeano he e was no a coho
iin--ttake,, tthey werre nott drriinkiing,, and iitt was alll because off Carrrrolll.. II was amazed.. The olld
   n ake hey we e no d nk ng and was a because o Ca o                                           was amazed The o d
schooll wiilld boys woulld gett iin ttrroublle,, rrun amok,, gett crrazy att tthe olld 502 Cllub,, butt Pette's
 schoo w d boys wou d ge n oub e un amok ge c azy a he o d 502 C ub bu Pe e's
gott a compllette handlle on tthatt.. II had a harrd coach butt tthiis guy iis harrd,, yett he makes iitt
 go a comp e e hand e on ha had a ha d coach bu h s guy s ha d ye he makes
seem lliike you arre iimposiing hiis diisciiplliine on yourrsellff.. The abiilliitty tto do tthatt iis sometthiing
 seem ke you a e mpos ng h s d sc p ne on you se The ab y o do ha s some h ng
you can'tt tteach,, butt Pette''s gott iitt..
 you can' each bu Pe e s go
            Maybe parrtt off iitt iis sociiettiies'' rreacttiion tto sporrtts.. Therre's a llott off money iin iitt and
             Maybe pa o              s soc e es eac on o spo s The e's a o o money n and
parrentts see iitt as a way tto prromotte ttheiirr kiids,, so tthe ones who make iitt may be morre
 pa en s see as a way o p omo e he k ds so he ones who make may be mo e
diisciiplliined and ffocused,, butt Carrrrolll's embrraced iitt and ttherre's an accepttance off whatt's iin
 d sc p ned and ocused bu Ca o 's emb aced and he e's an accep ance o wha 's n
sttorre fforr young men who come tto pllay fforr hiim.. He ttelllls tthem,, "Herre's why we do tthiis,,"
 s o e o young men who come o p ay o h m He e s hem "He e's why we do h s "
he expllaiins iitt,, wherre Smiitth woulld jjustt say,, "IItts my way orr tthe hiighway.." Pette's allmostt
 he exp a ns whe e Sm h wou d us say " s my way o he h ghway " Pe e's a mos
lliike a counsellorr..
     ke a counse o
           "Thiis iis bestt fforr tthe tteam and yourrsellff,," he'llll ttelll tthem.. Parrentts llook att kiids as an
           "Th s s bes o he eam and you se " he' e hem Pa en s ook a k ds as an
iinvesttmentt.. My daughtterr iis good att gollff so II tthiink schollarrshiip,, and Pette connectts tto tthatt
   nves men My daugh e s good a go so h nk scho a sh p and Pe e connec s o ha
way off tthiinkiing.. A parrentt meetts Pette Carrrrolll and comes away tthiinkiing,, "Thiis iis tthe guy
 way o h nk ng A pa en mee s Pe e Ca o and comes away h nk ng "Th s s he guy
who can bestt maxiimiize my son's pottenttiiall as a pllayerr,, a sttudentt and as a man.." Mostt
 who can bes max m ze my son's po en a as a p aye a s uden and as a man " Mos
coaches iitt's one orr tthe ottherr;; a good coach butt academiics ttakes a back seatt,, butt wiitth Pette
 coaches 's one o he o he a good coach bu academ cs akes a back sea bu w h Pe e
you'rre gettttiing a welll--rrounded experriience..
 you' e ge ng a we ounded expe ence
            II mett Pette outt on tthe ffiielld att prracttiice.. Pette ttiies iin tthe olld and new,, and ttherre's
                me Pe e ou on he e d a p ac ce Pe e es n he o d and new and he e's
neverr a prrobllem gettttiing on tthe ffiielld,, he's rreall good aboutt tthatt.. The way II know hiim
 neve a p ob em ge ng on he e d he's ea good abou ha The way know h m
tthrrough prracttiices,, and we'rre alll a ffamiilly,, he lloves tthe ttrradiittiion and compllettelly uses tthatt..
   h ough p ac ces and we' e a a am y he oves he ad on and comp e e y uses ha
            II knew Rob Johnson,, who was USC's quarrtterrback iin tthe earrlly 1990s.. He was my
                knew Rob Johnson who was USC's qua e back n he ea y 1990s He was my
watterr boy iin hiigh schooll.. Hiis ollderr brrottherr,, Brrett,, was my tteammatte att Ell Torro Hiigh
 wa e boy n h gh schoo H s o de b o he B e was my eamma e a E To o H gh
Schooll,, and ttheiirr dad,, Bob Johnson was ourr coach.. My tteammattes,, Brrett,, Scotttt Spaulldiing
 Schoo and he dad Bob Johnson was ou coach My eamma es B e Sco Spau d ng
and Colltt Miillllerr,, alll wentt tto UCLA.. II tthiink tthey allll made a miisttake.. Brrett llefftt UCLA and
 and Co M e a wen o UCLA h nk hey a made a m s ake B e e UCLA and
ttrransfferrrred tto Miichiigan Sttatte.. Rob,, beiing ourr watterr boy,, saw tthatt,, so my deciisiion
     ans e ed o M ch gan S a e Rob be ng ou wa e boy saw ha so my dec s on
rreffllectted on hiim,, and he saw hiis brrottherr's miisttake,, and chose USC
    e ec ed on h m and he saw h s b o he 's m s ake and chose USC
              t 's a b o he hood To h s day ook a ound n soc e y and see SC peop e They' e
            IIt's a brrottherrhood.. To tthiis day II llook arround iin sociietty and see SC peoplle.. They'rre
allll overr tthe pllace.. II neverr mett a bad USC guy.. They jjustt rriise tto tthe ttop..
 a ove he p ace neve me a bad USC guy They us se o he op
            When II was a pllayerr,, II wentt tto tthe 100--yearr rreuniion att tthe Colliiseum.. Aarron
             When was a p aye wen o he 100 yea eun on a he Co seum Aa on

Emanuell and II buttted heads allll tthe ttiime.. Sportts IIlllusttratted saiid he was supposed tto be a
Emanue and bu ed heads a he me Spor s us ra ed sa d he was supposed o be a

Heiisman candiidatte butt he wasn'tt.. We werre iin tthe llockerr rroom and tthese olld crroniies come
He sman cand da e bu he wasn' We we e n he ocke oom and hese o d c on es come

iin,, and we've gott a keg off beerr,, and Aarron and II gott iintto iitt,, and we'rre iin suiitts,, we'rre
  n and we've go a keg o bee and Aa on and go n o and we' e n su s we' e

supposed tto be rrespecttffull.. We sttarrtt tto gett afftterr each ottherr,, and Patt Harrllow grrabbed me,,
supposed o be espec u We s a o ge a e each o he and Pa Ha ow g abbed me

and II hearrd a couplle off tthe ollderr guys chucklliing,, sayiing iitt hasn'tt changed siince tthey had
and hea d a coup e o he o de guys chuck ng say ng hasn' changed s nce hey had

pllayed ttherre.. We wentt outt and had a good ttiime att diinnerr,, and tthe nextt day we llaughed
p ayed he e We wen ou and had a good me a d nne and he nex day we aughed
and shook hands.. We''rre allll Trrojjans and rrespectt each ottherr..
and shook hands We e a T o ans and espec each o he



Scott Ross was an All-American in 1990. He was All-Pac-10 in 1988, 1989 and 1990,

played in three Rose Bowl games (1988, 1989, 1990), was selected team Most

Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year, and was the recipient of the

Davis-Teschke award as a senior. USC's record was 35-12-2 in his four years.

After selection to the East-West Shrine Game and the Hula Bowl, he was drafted by

the New Orleans Saints, and played for them in 1991.


                                         DERRICK DEESE

Offensive Guard
1990 - 1991

I played at the University of Southern California from 1990-91. I came from El Camino

Junior College, which is one of the best J.C. football programs in the nation. John

Firestone, a legend, was my coach there. Between him and the offensive line coach there,

they made great names for themselves. They do a great job of getting kids to the next

level. The good thing is they're still sticklers for getting kids an A.A. degree. They make

sure you get it whether you needed it or not, and it's one reason I still stay involved.

       I played at Culver City High School, which was not a very good program but it's
getting better. I see they've been making it to the play-offs more the last seven years. My
senior year was the first time they'd been in the play-offs in 15 years or something.
Carnell Lake of UCLA and myself, we cam from there.
       Clarence Shelmon recruited me for USC out of El Camino as an offensive guard. I
also played on the defensive line in high school and at El Camino. The funny thing is
Coach Gene Engle was not sure if I'd play on the offensive line or not. He recruited me to
play there. They give you an envelope detailing your position responsibilities, and mine
was for both sides of the ball. I felt like Coach Engle, whose still there, it was hard for
him because there'd been a disruption of coaches because of what happened my senior
year. He told my mom, "I never make promises," but he guaranteed he'd get me to a
division I school. My situation was, I wanted to play football and get an education. To be
honest, I wanted to be a police officer, so I went to El Camino and Clarence Shelmon
talked to their coaching staff. My tapes had been shown and they said I had great speed
and technique. I spoke with a lot with coaches and I signed with the Trojans in the spring
of 1990.
        Mark Carrier and Junior Seau would have been seniors that year, but they were
two of the first players to leave early after their junior years. Now it's common but then it
was rare, but we lost them. We expected to compete for the national championship that
year and had we had them it would have been much more possible.
        I got to USC, and you have an air about yourself there. Basically you felt like
everybody wanted to be at that school. As on offensive lineman, you get hyped. It's
"Running Back U." and it's "Linebacker U.," but we've had a lot of offensive linemen and
that was the thing SC was known for. Unless you are a real football addict, you don't pay
attention to offensive linemen, but you have to have them in order to have the running
game USC's always had.
        I was an L.A. kid, so growing up I knew a lot about it and knew all about the
USC-UCLA rivalry. So I get there and find out we're kicking off the season for college
football and have a chance to go big and win a national championship. The opener was
the Kickoff Classic at Giants Stadium, in the Meadowlands at East Rutherford, New
Jersey. It's a pro stadium and that was a big hyped game. No one else was playing so all
the focus at the beginning of the season was on us, and you want it to be like that at the
end of the season like at the beginning of the season. You want to be playing for number
one. That was our focus, to show what we had worked for all spring and summer.
        Our quarterback was Todd Marinovich. The funny thing about Todd is I played
with some of the greatest quarterbacks ever to play the game. I think if he'd stayed
focused he would have been a great quarterback, but Coach Larry Smith had a spat with
him over control issues, over who had the power, and it affected Todd. He came out
early, and looking back, if he'd stayed another year he could have changed USC as a
whole if you think about it. He was up for the Heisman for three-quarters of the season,
he'd been a Freshman All-American and led the Trojans to a Rose Bowl victory, so if he
comes back, I look at him like a guy who probably could have won the Heisman.
        We lost to Notre Dame, 10-6. That was after our big offensive game with UCLA. I
don't think there's a big physical difference between the Irish and the Bruins. I look back,
and both teams were well coached and had great guys on both sides of the ball, who
played in the NFL. In big games the first team that makes a mistake is usually the first
team to lose. We fought back as well as we could and felt we had a chance to win. Some
people thought that coming back from the high of the UCLA game caused us to lose, but
great teams keep that level of play consistent.
        The UCLA game in 1990 was one of the greatest games in USC history. It was my
first year coming from junior college at El Camino, where we had a semi-horseshoe of a
stadium. It seats a few thousand and for a big game you're talking several hundred
people. Then we play the Kickoff Classic in our first game. This is after I've played in the
Cardinal and Gold spring game, which can get a few thousand in one section of the
Coliseum, which to me was like wow, and in New York . . .
        So at Giants Stadium we warm up and I'm thinking, this isn't so bad. Then you
hear the introductions, and after we've rested in the locker room and hear the roar of the
crowd, and now we go out there and see this big, full stadium, all around there's 40 or
 50,000 people, and it's shocking for a junior college transfer. Then we go to the Rose
 Bowl to play UCLA. Being an L.A. kid, that's the "granddaddy." If you're in the Pac-10
 you wanna play in the Rose Bowl, bottom line. USC owned that stadium for quite some
 time. Now we get to play our rivals there. They're the enemy whose gonna have bragging
 rights all year, and you know all those guys. We follow them, they follow us. They see us
 out in J.C. or high school, we know each other. We get to the game, and I remember they
 had Scott Miller, a receiver from Saddleback and I had played against him. He was a
 pretty good guy and you knew he could take the game and control it if given the
 opportunity, and we entered the game and I'll say this is, it's the biggest game aside from
 Notre Dame also. We get out there and see 100,000-plus going crazy. That is
 phenomenal. Even in the NFL you don't experience that type of crowd atmosphere. That's
 a true football game, and it became a definite game of mistakes, a game of inches in
 which the lead must have switched hands 10 times or better. I talked to people from
 UCLA and they’re always asking, could Johnnie Morton have made it if not for the
 one-foot rule in college, or what if he needed two more feet in the end zone, and that’s
 where it becomes fun, and we both showed up to play and obviously the best team won!
             II sttarrtted wiitth tthe San Frranciisco 49errs iin 1992 and pllayed wiitth botth Joe Monttana
                s a ed w h he San F anc sco 49e s n 1992 and p ayed w h bo h Joe Mon ana
and Stteve Young.. We won tthe Superr Bowll iin 1995.. II pllayed wiitth Jeffff Garrciia.. Those
 and S eve Young We won he Supe Bow n 1995 p ayed w h Je Ga c a Those
quarrtterrbacks,, iin tthemsellves,, tthey show how much morre you need tto tthiink,, how much
 qua e backs n hemse ves hey show how much mo e you need o h nk how much
tthey achiieved,, butt tthey've allll had diifffferrentt rreasons why tthey succeeded..
   hey ach eved bu hey've a had d e en easons why hey succeeded
             Monttana's secrrett,, when you llook att Joe,, you llook att a guy whose exttrremelly smarrtt..
              Mon ana's sec e when you ook a Joe you ook a a guy whose ex eme y sma
He coulld rread deffensiive pllayerrs.. He had an aiirr aboutt hiimsellff and was ablle tto llead guys tto
 He cou d ead de ens ve p aye s He had an a abou h mse and was ab e o ead guys o
a hiigherr llevell.. IIn hiis case he had good atthllettes arround hiim and hiis conffiidence rrubbed offff
 a h ghe eve n h s case he had good a h e es a ound h m and h s con dence ubbed o
on allll tthose arround hiim.. He had a swaggerr,, no mattterr who was comiing iintto tthe game,, no
 on a hose a ound h m He had a swagge no ma e who was com ng n o he game no
matttterr wherre you pllayed on offffense,, iitt rrubs offff and made peoplle bettterr arround hiim..
 ma e whe e you p ayed on o ense                            ubs o and made peop e be e a ound h m
              n 1994 h nk S eve Young pu he p essu e on h mse o w n he Supe Bow
             IIn 1994 II tthiink Stteve Young putt tthe prressurre on hiimsellff tto wiin tthe Superr Bowll,,
and tto be tthe bestt no matttterr whatt he diid,, no mattterr,, he was nott gonna be sattiisffiied wiitth hiis
 and o be he bes no ma e wha he d d no ma e he was no gonna be sa s ed w h h s
accomplliishmentts and accollades.. IItt diidn'tt mattterr.. IItt's easy tto say,, butt basiicalllly he'd ttake
 accomp shmen s and acco ades d dn' ma e 's easy o say bu bas ca y he'd ake
tthe bullll by tthe horrns and deciided whatt he's gonna do wiitth tthe horrn.. He had tto pllay a llong
   he bu by he ho ns and dec ded wha he's gonna do w h he ho n He had o p ay a ong
ttiime behiind a quarrtterrback consiiderred tthe bestt iin tthe game.. To rrepllace somebody lliike tthatt
    me beh nd a qua e back cons de ed he bes n he game To ep ace somebody ke ha
iis prressurre,, butt he putt tthe same prressurre on hiimsellff.. The 49errs have allways been a tteam,,
   s p essu e bu he pu he same p essu e on h mse The 49e s have a ways been a eam
when II gott ttherre was notthiing lless tthan wiinniing tthe Superr Bowll.. IItt's lliike USC can go
 when go he e was no h ng ess han w nn ng he Supe Bow 's ke USC can go
11--2,, wiin tthe Rose Bowll and ffiiniish numberr ttwo,, butt iitt was a diisappoiinttiing season
 11 2 w n he Rose Bow and n sh numbe wo bu was a d sappo n ng season
because tthe expecttattiion iis a nattiionall ttiittlle.. Thatt brreeds excelllence.. When you putt tthe
 because he expec a on s a na ona                           e Tha b eeds exce ence When you pu he
prressurre on yourrsellff and pllay wiitth tthatt,, you carrrry tthatt on and offff tthe ffiielld.. Notthiing
 p essu e on you se and p ay w h ha you ca y ha on and o he e d No h ng
brreaks you.. Therre's notthiing you cannott atttaiin,, and you wiilll do iitt,, and Stteve was a guy,,
 b eaks you The e's no h ng you canno a a n and you w do and S eve was a guy
we brroughtt iin ottherr pllayerrs and had llostt tto tthe Cowboys,, butt tthatt tthiirrd yearr ttherre was a
 we b ough n o he p aye s and had os o he Cowboys bu ha h d yea he e was a
sense,, a smellll iin tthe aiirr,, tthatt we werre gonna wiin tthe Superr Bowll.. We llostt tto Phiilladellphiia
 sense a sme n he a ha we we e gonna w n he Supe Bow We os o Ph ade ph a
and Kansas Ciitty,, tthen rran offff an 11--game wiinniing sttrreak.. Everry ttiime we sttepped on tthe
 and Kansas C y hen an o an 11 game w nn ng s eak Eve y me we s epped on he
ffiielld befforre tthe kiick,, you knew we werre gonna wiin.. We werre 13--3 headiing iintto tthe
    e d be o e he k ck you knew we we e gonna w n We we e 13 3 head ng n o he
pllay--offffs.. Wiitth Stteve we knew whatt we needed tto wiin tthe pllay--offffs,, and herre's Dalllas,,
 p ay o s W h S eve we knew wha we needed o w n he p ay o s and he e's Da as
and you ffeell diifffferrentt aboutt yourrsellff when you wiin tthatt game..
 and you ee d e en abou you se when you w n ha game
             Allll Eddiie DeBarrttollo saiid was,, "We wiilll brriing back tthe Lombarrdii Trrophy.." Therre
              A Edd e DeBa o o sa d was "We w b ng back he Lomba d T ophy " The e
was no hesiittattiion,, iitt diidn'tt matttterr who we werre gonna pllay,, tto me tthatt was Stteve,, iitt was
 was no hes a on d dn' ma e who we we e gonna p ay o me ha was S eve was
tthe way Stteve rrelliieved tthe prressurre tto go tto tthe Superr Bowll,, and he diid everrytthiing iin hiis
   he way S eve e eved he p essu e o go o he Supe Bow and he d d eve y h ng n h s
abiilliitty tto wiin,, butt iiff we don'tt wiin,, iitt's a ffaiillurre.. Even iiff he's tthe Mostt Valluablle Pllayerr iin
 ab y o w n bu we don' w n 's a a u e Even he's he Mos Va uab e P aye n
tthe NFL,, iitt doesn'tt matttterr.. Therre was a llook iin hiis eyes,, and he knew enough tto know he
   he NFL doesn' ma e The e was a ook n h s eyes and he knew enough o know he
was tthe perrffectt quarrtterrback tto rrepllace Monttana,, and he diid a grreatt jjob.. Thatt guy was a
 was he pe ec qua e back o ep ace Mon ana and he d d a g ea ob Tha guy was a
grreatt quarrtterrback,, and wiitth a champiionshiip he prroved iitt wiitth whatt he diid.. Thatt's whatt
 g ea qua e back and w h a champ onsh p he p oved w h wha he d d Tha 's wha
was he supposed tto do,, tto nott back down ffrrom a challllenge..
 was he supposed o do o no back down om a cha enge
           My tteammatte Garry Pllummerr saiid,, "Therre's no morre monkey,, orr gorriilllla,, orr
           My eamma e Ga y P umme sa d "The e's no mo e monkey o go a o
ellephantt hangiing on hiis back any morre.." IItt was lliike a heavy weiightt had been moved and
 e ephan hang ng on h s back any mo e " was ke a heavy we gh had been moved and
we lloved tto own tthatt viicttorry morre tthan everr.. So II''ve pllayed wiitth ttwo Halll off Famerrs,,
 we oved o own ha v c o y mo e han eve So ve p ayed w h wo Ha o Fame s
botth Joe and Stteve..
 bo h Joe and S eve
             Pette Carrrrolll came tto San Frranciisco iin 1995.. When he came ttherre,, he was guy
              Pe e Ca o came o San F anc sco n 1995 When he came he e he was guy
who'd been ffiirred by tthe Jew Yorrk Jetts.. He was ourr deffensiive coorrdiinattorr and ourr
 who'd been ed by he Jew Yo k Je s He was ou de ens ve coo d na o and ou
deffensiive pllayerrs lloved hiim.. Merrtton Hanks,, Tiim McDonalld;; tthey alll lloved hiim.. II ffiind iitt
 de ens ve p aye s oved h m Me on Hanks T m McDona d hey a oved h m                                                  nd
iirroniic,, iiff you llook att tthe 49errs tthey''rre known fforr offffensiive pllayerrs.. Whatt tthey do iin
    on c you ook a he 49e s hey e known o o ens ve p aye s Wha hey do n
games,, peoplle ffiigurre tthe 49errs'' deffense iis rranked iin tthe ttop 10,, tthey do a grreatt jjob,, butt
 games peop e gu e he 49e s de ense s anked n he op 10 hey do a g ea ob bu
we'd wiin 11 orr 12 games and go tto tthe pllay--offffs because off offffense.. Thatt's tthe mediia
 we'd w n 11 o 12 games and go o he p ay o s because o o ense Tha 's he med a
wrriittiing.. Butt we knew everrybody needed tto pllay,, tto show up,, and he showed up and ffiirred
 w ng Bu we knew eve ybody needed o p ay o show up and he showed up and ed
up any pllayerr any ttiime,, and guys lloved tto pllay fforr hiim,, and you tthoughtt he coulld be tthe
 up any p aye any me and guys oved o p ay o h m and you hough he cou d be he
guy whose ourr nextt head coach.. Therre werre vetterrans who tthoughtt aboutt iitt,, and he
 guy whose ou nex head coach The e we e ve e ans who hough abou                                         and he
deffiiniittelly was a grreatt deffensiive miind,, and when he llefftt guys werre iin shock butt tthey werre
 de n e y was a g ea de ens ve m nd and when he e guys we e n shock bu hey we e
happy he gott a head coachiing posiittiion iin New Englland..
 happy he go a head coach ng pos on n New Eng and
             II tthiink Stteve Marriiuccii was hiirred ffrrom tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Calliifforrniia afftterr Carrrrolll
                  h nk S eve Ma ucc was h ed om he Un ve s y o Ca o n a a e Ca o
was allrready gone.. Therre was a llott off conttrroverrsy aboutt whettherr Miike Shannahan woulld
 was a eady gone The e was a o o con ove sy abou whe he M ke Shannahan wou d
be tthe new coach.. Pette had succeeded Ray Rhodes as tthe deffensiive coorrdiinattorr.. II don’’tt
 be he new coach Pe e had succeeded Ray Rhodes as he de ens ve coo d na o don
know iiff Pette woulld have been tthe head coach had he sttayed.. Thatt's a harrd rroad tto go
 know Pe e wou d have been he head coach had he s ayed Tha 's a ha d oad o go
down,, II jjustt don'tt know..
 down us don' know
             IIff Pette had been tthe 49errs'' coach,, II'm nott 100 perrcentt surre whatt he woulld have
                  Pe e had been he 49e s coach 'm no 100 pe cen su e wha he wou d have
done iin San Frranciisco,, tto be honestt.. Forr tthe guys who pllayed fforr hiim,, II tthiink tthey lloved
 done n San F anc sco o be hones Fo he guys who p ayed o h m h nk hey oved
hiim.. New Englland was nott tthe perrffectt jjob fforr hiim,, butt llook whatt happened afftterr hiim.. II
 h m New Eng and was no he pe ec ob o h m bu ook wha happened a e h m
can'tt say iiff tthe perrsonnell was perrffectt fforr hiim,, butt he gott tthatt orrganiizattiion prreparred fforr
 can' say he pe sonne was pe ec o h m bu he go ha o gan za on p epa ed o
wherre tthey arre now.. Somebody has tto sttarrtt sometthiing tto conttiinue offff whatt was ttherre..
 whe e hey a e now Somebody has o s a some h ng o con nue o wha was he e
Look att hiis rresume.. He was wiitth tthe Jetts one yearr.. He was a deffensiive coorrdiinattorr a
 Look a h s esume He was w h he Je s one yea He was a de ens ve coo d na o a
numberr off yearrs.. You've gott tto giive a coach,, he needs ffourr orr ffiive yearrs tto rrealllly deciide
 numbe o yea s You've go o g ve a coach he needs ou o ve yea s o ea y dec de
whatt he's done.. You need tto gett guys outt who werre ttherre befforre hiim..
 wha he's done You need o ge guys ou who we e he e be o e h m
             When he was hiirred att USC,, II came on tthe aiirr,, Tiim McDonalld and me,, and we
              When he was h ed a USC came on he a T m McDona d and me and we
saiid tthey''d made a grreatt hiirre.. II tthiink he was a grreatt hiirre,, and iitt can'tt gett any bettterr fforr
 sa d hey d made a g ea h e h nk he was a g ea h e and can' ge any be e o
USC.. Whatt was ffunny iis llatterr we ffiind outt tthatt Miike Garrrrettt tthoughtt he was nott gonna
 USC Wha was unny s a e we nd ou ha M ke Ga e hough he was no gonna
hiirre hiim.. You've gottta be kiiddiing me.. He was tthiinkiing aboutt goiing iin diifffferrentt
 h e h m You've go a be k dd ng me He was h nk ng abou go ng n d e en
diirrecttiions..
 d ec ons
             Pllayerrs who pllayed fforr hiim knew how good he was.. II saw hiim coach everry day,,
              P aye s who p ayed o h m knew how good he was saw h m coach eve y day
so II knew.. The allumnii and tthe mediia werre nott exciitted,, butt you knew pllayerrs wantted tto
 so knew The a umn and he med a we e no exc ed bu you knew p aye s wan ed o
pllay fforr hiim,, and II knew tthiis.. The tthiing iis,, when II was pllayiing fforr hiim befforre he was att
 p ay o h m and knew h s The h ng s when was p ay ng o h m be o e he was a
SC,, II woulld say,, "II bett tthiis guy''s a good rrecrruiitterr.." You'd llook att Carrrrolll and neverr see
 SC wou d say " be h s guy s a good ec u e " You'd ook a Ca o and neve see
Carrrrollll hiighlly upsett.. He was allways smiilliing,, ttherre was allways sometthiing good on tthe
 Ca o h gh y upse He was a ways sm ng he e was a ways some h ng good on he
ottherr siide,, and a kiid can see tthatt..
 o he s de and a k d can see ha
             Eiittherr he has iitt orr he doesn'tt,, and tthatt's why you llook att iitt now,, he coulld gett an
              E he he has o he doesn' and ha 's why you ook a now he cou d ge an
NFL jjob,, butt ffrranklly as a pastt Trrojjan,, II hope he neverr ttakes anottherr jjob.. He''s good fforr
 NFL ob bu ank y as a pas T o an hope he neve akes ano he ob He s good o
USC.. He has a grreatt sttaffff.. Look att tthe way he rruns hiis systtem.. Yeah,, some kiids lleave
 USC He has a g ea s a Look a he way he uns h s sys em Yeah some k ds eave
earrlly,, butt tthey gottta underrsttand tthatt iitt's nott jjustt one perrson whose tthatt good,, butt a llott off
 ea y bu hey go a unde s and ha 's no us one pe son whose ha good bu a o o
iinttangiiblles iin a tteam game tthatt makes you tthatt way..
   n ang b es n a eam game ha makes you ha way
             Reggiie Bush was lliike tthatt.. He needed tthatt tteam arround hiim,, tto know iitt's nott alll
              Regg e Bush was ke ha He needed ha eam a ound h m o know 's no a
me.. The ffactt off tthe matttterr iis Carrrrollll,, even wiitth kiids who lleave earrlly,, he's sttiilll ablle tto ttake
 me The ac o he ma e s Ca o even w h k ds who eave ea y he's s ab e o ake
iitt tto anottherr llevell.. Guys crrediitt tthatt .. .. .. you'rre ttallkiing grreatt USC coaches,, and he's rriightt iin
       o ano he eve Guys c ed ha                            you' e a k ng g ea USC coaches and he's gh n
tthe miix.. One tthiing tthatt's diifffferrentt wiitth tthiis guy tthatt tthey,, prreviious coaches,, don'tt even
   he m x One h ng ha 's d e en w h h s guy ha hey p ev ous coaches don' even
comparre iis he's done iitt wiitth grreatt pllayerrs lleaviing earrlly and he has tto rre--lload..
 compa e s he's done w h g ea p aye s eav ng ea y and he has o e oad
             Forr Miike Garrrretttt,, iitt's lliike,, you don’’tt underrsttand,, you wanna jjump on my
              Fo M ke Ga e                 's ke you don unde s and you wanna ump on my
bandwagon,, butt Garrrrettt -- everrybody makes miisttakes -- butt a rreall man can sttand up and
 bandwagon bu Ga e eve ybody makes m s akes bu a ea man can s and up and
admiitt,, "II was wrrong,," and tthatt's how you have tto llook att iitt.. Garrrrettt needs tto say,, "II diidn’’tt
 adm " was w ong " and ha 's how you have o ook a                                       Ga e needs o say " d dn
ask hiim tto be ourr coach,, butt he's tthe bestt tthiing iin yearrs.."
 ask h m o be ou coach bu he's he bes h ng n yea s "
             Therre's llotts off rreasons fforr hiim tto sttay att USC,, butt you can'tt ttake iintto accountt a
              The e's o s o easons o h m o s ay a USC bu you can' ake n o accoun a
guy's desiirre tto prrove he coulld make tthe same ttrransiittiion iin prro ffoottballll.. Thiis iis whatt
 guy's des e o p ove he cou d make he same ans on n p o oo ba Th s s wha
 makes h m ake ano he ob s u con o pe od t 's ha d o go ou and cook he d nne
makes hiim ttake anottherr jjob,, iis ffullll conttrroll,, perriiod.. IIt's harrd tto go outt and cook tthe diinnerr
you wantt when anottherr buys tthe grrocerriies and tthey gett tthe wrrong meatt.. You can'tt cook
 you wan when ano he buys he g oce es and hey ge he w ong mea You can' cook
stteak iiff tthey buy chiicken.. Maybe tthatt's tthe diifffferrence,, II don'tt mean tthatt's nott outt ttherre..
 s eak hey buy ch cken Maybe ha 's he d e ence don' mean ha 's no ou he e
Biillll Wallsh,, tthey tthoughtt he was crrazy iinsttallliing tthe "Westt Coastt offffense.." A llott off tthose
 B Wa sh hey hough he was c azy ns a ng he "Wes Coas o ense " A o o hose
coaches had a majjorr iinfflluence on Carrrrolll.. Wallsh ttouched a tton off pllayerrs and coaches..
 coaches had a ma o n uence on Ca o Wa sh ouched a on o p aye s and coaches
He was iinvollved wiitth tthe 49errs when Pette was ttherre and tthey esttablliished a sttrrong
 He was nvo ved w h he 49e s when Pe e was he e and hey es ab shed a s ong
rrellattiionshiip,, so Wallsh iis huge iinfflluence on Pette..
   e a onsh p so Wa sh s huge n uence on Pe e
             Carrrrolll,, tto be honestt,, has made a name tthatt wiilll lliive on fforr decades.. He'lll be
              Ca o o be hones has made a name ha w                                  ve on o decades He' be
ttallked aboutt when my kiids arre olld enough tto have kiids.. You can'tt llook back and see hiis
   a ked abou when my k ds a e o d enough o have k ds You can' ook back and see h s
achiievementt and nott say he has nott made a name fforr hiimsellff.. Does he wantt tto
 ach evemen and no say he has no made a name o h mse Does he wan o
accomplliish morre att a hiigherr llevell? You menttiion colllege llegends lliike Knutte Rockne,,
 accomp sh mo e a a h ghe eve ? You men on co ege egends ke Knu e Rockne
Bearr Brryantt and Bud Wiillkiinson;; Pette's ttherre now,, II tthiink..
 Bea B yan and Bud W k nson Pe e's he e now h nk
             Stteve Spurrrriierr ttrriied iitt hiis way,, iin colllege orr tthe NFL,, butt who does tthe rrecrruiittiing
              S eve Spu e ed h s way n co ege o he NFL bu who does he ec u ng
   n he NFL? Look a he ques ons a gene a manage asks Do we wanna pay h m? n
iin tthe NFL? Look att tthe questtiions a generrall managerr asks.. Do we wanna pay hiim? IIn
collllege iitt's,, "Do we have a schollarrshiip?" Carrrrollll can gett 10 "ffiirrstt rround drrafftt piicks" iin
 co ege 's "Do we have a scho a sh p?" Ca o can ge 10 " s ound d a p cks" n
one rrecrruiittiing cllass.. IIn prro ffoottballl you can'tt do tthiis,, you've gott tthatt budgett.. Jerrrry Jones
 one ec u ng c ass n p o oo ba you can' do h s you've go ha budge Je y Jones
wiillll putt tthe money outt.. Dan Snyderr an a ffew ottherrs wiilll spend money tto gett tthe pllayerrs
 w pu he money ou Dan Snyde an a ew o he s w spend money o ge he p aye s
as llong as tthey have tto..
 as ong as hey have o
             Announciing iis grreatt.. An iintterresttiing tthiing iis II allways diid rradiio ffrrom my second
              Announc ng s g ea An n e es ng h ng s a ways d d ad o om my second
yearr wiitth tthe 49errs.. II've done a llott off Ellviis and JayVee on KMEL "Hott 97,," tthen 94..9
 yea w h he 49e s 've done a o o E v s and JayVee on KMEL "Ho 97 " hen 94 9
and so fforrtth,, "Biig Joe" was hiis name,, and II lliiked iitt.. On rradiio II gett a chance tto be ablle tto
 and so o h "B g Joe" was h s name and ked On ad o ge a chance o be ab e o
ttallk tto someone who can'tt see you,, butt you have tto giive tthem a viisuall.. On TV iitt's alll on
   a k o someone who can' see you bu you have o g ve hem a v sua On TV 's a on
tthe scrreen,, butt iitt's jjustt you on tthe rradiio.. You have tto keep peoplle lliistteniing tto you who
   he sc een bu 's us you on he ad o You have o keep peop e s en ng o you who
can'tt see you.. II lliike tthiings diiffffiiculltt morre tthan easy,, tthatt's tthe rroad II ttrravelled..
 can' see you                ke h ngs d cu mo e han easy ha 's he oad ave ed
             II diid "IIn tthe Trrenches Wiitth Derrrriick Deese,," wiitth Riick Barrrry on KNBR//68 iin San
                d d " n he T enches W h De ck Deese " w h R ck Ba y on KNBR 68 n San
Frranciisco.. Frrom ttherre II wentt tto Tampa and diid an ESPN show down ttherre.. Chrriis Viisherr
 F anc sco F om he e wen o Tampa and d d an ESPN show down he e Ch s V she
gott me on weeklly and when gott hurrtt and II gott a ttrry--outt on 570 iin Los Angelles and gott
 go me on week y and when go hu and go a y ou on 570 n Los Ange es and go
hiirred.. IItt's kiind off ffunny because "Biig Joe" ffrrom Norrttherrn Calliifforrniia was on when II came
 h ed 's k nd o unny because "B g Joe" om No he n Ca o n a was on when came
tto L..A.. Thatt's Joe Grrande ffrrom "Powerr 106.." They hiirred me,, and 570 llett me do tthiis
   o L A Tha 's Joe G ande om "Powe 106 " They h ed me and 570 e me do h s
show,, and II sttayed ttherre a yearr.. Fox Sporrtts had me siitt down iin ttherre,, and tthey lliiked whatt
 show and s ayed he e a yea Fox Spo s had me s down n he e and hey ked wha
tthey hearrd,, and iitt's been tthatt way everr siince.. IItt's diiffffiiculltt because II've had a llott off iinjjurriies
   hey hea d and 's been ha way eve s nce 's d cu because 've had a o o n u es
and II can'tt siitt as llong as you need tto .. .. ..
 and can' s as ong as you need o
             Ullttiimattelly,, you don’’tt wanna be a guy who wallks tthe ffence.. II piick one siide orr
              U ma e y you don wanna be a guy who wa ks he ence p ck one s de o
anottherr.. "IIn tthe Trrenches" gave some gllorry fforr tthe lliinemen.. The "prrettty boys,," tthe
 ano he " n he T enches" gave some g o y o he nemen The "p e y boys " he
bllonde guys lliike Boomerr Esiiason,, tthe Frrank Giifffforrd ttypes,, tthey gett llotts off tthese
 b onde guys ke Boome Es ason he F ank G o d ypes hey ge o s o hese
postt--carreerr mediia jjobs,, butt Miike Golliic getts tto do tthose tthiings.. You llook att iitt,, and
 pos ca ee med a obs bu M ke Go c ge s o do hose h ngs You ook a                                      and
offffensiive lliinemen arre biig guys,, butt we gett tto putt iitt fforrwarrd Liincolln Kennedy has hiis
 o ens ve nemen a e b g guys bu we ge o pu                           o wa d L nco n Kennedy has h s
opiiniions and tthey''rre diifffferrentt..
 op n ons and hey e d e en
             Why do so many USC atthllettes do so welll on tthe rradiio? Therre's a mediia perriimetterr
             Why do so many USC a h e es do so we on he ad o? The e's a med a pe me e
arround tthe campus.. IItt's ttrradiittiion.. You have no choiice butt tto ttallk tto somebody everry day..
 a ound he campus 's ad on You have no cho ce bu o a k o somebody eve y day
Los Angelles iis one off tthe ttop tthrree marrketts iin tthe worrlld,, so you'rre gonna be seen and
 Los Ange es s one o he op h ee ma ke s n he wo d so you' e gonna be seen and
hearrd.. Some guy ffrrom a smallll ttown may ttallk tto ffiive orr 10 peoplle iin a week when you
 hea d Some guy om a sma own may a k o ve o 10 peop e n a week when you
brriing hiim tto L..A.. II guarranttee,, Jason Sehorrn was lliike tthatt,, comiing ffrrom a ttiiny ttown lliike
 b ng h m o L A gua an ee Jason Seho n was ke ha com ng om a ny own ke
Mountt Shastta,, butt he became a cellebrriitty iin New Yorrk.. He llearrned how tto handlle tthatt,,
 Moun Shas a bu he became a ce eb y n New Yo k He ea ned how o hand e ha
lliike Giifffforrd diid,, att USC.. Therre's so many peoplle arround you att USC;; cellebrriittiies arre
    ke G o d d d a USC The e's so many peop e a ound you a USC ce eb es a e
comiing by,, and tthe llastt tthiing you wantt tto see on TV iis you sayiing "uh .. .. .. II uh .. .. .. llett me
 com ng by and he as h ng you wan o see on TV s you say ng "uh                                   uh        e me
see .. .. .." Thatt's nott how you wantt tto be porrttrrayed.. You wantt tto be viiewed as an iinttellliigentt
 see        " Tha 's no how you wan o be po ayed You wan o be v ewed as an n e gen
man,, an iinttelllecttuall who can convey hiimsellff tto anyone.. A llott off peoplle don'tt lliike whatt II
 man an n e ec ua who can convey h mse o anyone A o o peop e don' ke wha
say,, butt know whatt II am sayiing iis my honestt opiiniion,, and II''m buiilldiing a ffan base offff
 say bu know wha am say ng s my hones op n on and m bu d ng a an base o
tthatt..
   ha
            That's what you're looking for. You don't have to like it, but you have to
 appreciate what someone says. Disagree with my opinion, but I know what I'm talking
 about. I've played and I'm knowledgeable, that can't be denied. Those are things you look
 at. That's what I can do because of what I did at USC. They have speech classes,
 communication classes, plus psychology and sociology. You have to be able to get
 yourself out there in the open field and be a guy who can speak to anybody. You have no
 choice, you had to do interviews, we had to do that. Even if you just got here, they'll say,
 "Get here and speak." You learn that, and it's not just football.
            Basketball players, baseball players, women athletes like Lisa Leslie . . . Jim
 Rome interviews USC athletes all the time and says that far and away our people are the
 most articulate. Baseball players like John Jackson and Tom Seaver are well spoken.
 Years ago when Tom Seaver was a young celebrity/superstar in New York, he knew how
 to handle it. He'd say, "That's a journalistic trick you're trying to pull; I learned that in a
 journalism class at USC." Or "I took public relations classes in college and know what
 you're trying to do."
            Plus I learned what not to do from people in the media when I was a player. I
 never respected Ralph Barbieri on KNBR/68 in San Francisco. He was dogging me even
 though he never played, so I told Mark Ibanez, who did a post-game show on channel
 two, that I didn't appreciate certain members of the media trying to discredit me,
 especially when they had two DUIs in a couple months like Barbieri did. Ibanez laughed
 so hard they had to do a second take, but I repeated it on air. After that Barbieri had all
 kinds of praise for Derrick Deese. Whatever.

Derrick Deese was selected for the 1992 Hula Bowl, then starred with the San

Francisco 49ers from 1993-2003. He was a member of their 1994 world

championship team and was with the 49ers when Pete Carroll was an assistant with
them from 1995-96. After playing for Tampa Bay (2004), he became a national

sports radio host.



                                        MATT GEE

Inside Linebacker
1988 - 1991


I came from a small town, Arkansas City, Kansas and went to USC, where I played
inside linebacker. I was a highly recruited player out of a town of 10,000 people, and they
tracked me down. We had a great historical high school program down there, so scouts
knew to come there.
        Coaches Larry Smith and Ted Tollner both recruited me after they found me, and
they really loved me. I as on their list, but not excited about California. I was all for going
to Oklahoma University, because my town is near the Oklahoma border. I was a good
track athlete and had set a high school javelin record, and was asked by the Olympic
Committee to try out for the javelin at a camp with track and field professionals, for the
Seoul, South Korea Olympics. So there I was, along with these track veterans, and it was
held at USC, so I was at Heritage Hall. I'd dodged USC, but they came out and I ran the
40 in 40.6 seconds, but I fell on the track and scraped my hand. I went into the training
room, and the coaches just went down there and talked me into coming to SC. I took a
trip and here I was. I did my research on SC and saw all their linebackers were in the
pros. Back then for linebackers, it was by far USC
        I went from a tiny town to L.A., so it was an awakening culturally, but my
expectations were centered on football; to win a national title. They also said I could run
track if I wanted to, as long as I played spring ball, because others had done the same
thing. USC has a long tradition of dual-sport athletes - football-track, football-baseball -
as does UCLA, who allows dual sports as does SC. But I couldn't keep up with the
javelin and track and still play football. I came out for some points in track meets, but not
full time. We went to two Rose bowls when I was there.
        I think to be a Trojan is everything. For me, coming from the Midwest, I had no
idea how big it was, to be a Trojan, to have that connection for life. For people who live
in Southern California, people's eyes get big when they hear you went to USC. "So did I."
Not having grown up here, but as time progressed, I became tight friends with so many
USC people. Even my business today is centered around USC people. They stick
together. As you progress from freshmen to seniors, you don't realize how important it is
until you leave school. I can't emphasize enough, so many things happened when I was
there, it's unreal. I can't imagine something else. I go see coaches I've not seen in years,
and it's just great. And it’s a small school, a tight area to have to know a lot of people, it's
so small.
        Coach Smith was Coach Smith. I didn't really get to know him until my senior
year, when he was under stress. I stayed close with my position coaches. He had nothing
to do with the defense. I was the captain my senior year and we got closer, but he was a
standoff guy. He never bothered me. His nose was always to the grindstone and he
worked constantly. Some people didn't like him but I did.
        Coach Tom Roggeman was my linebackers coach all the time I was at USC. He
had a real Marine drill sergeant's demeanor, was constantly yelling and was very intense.
He'd love to hear about this book. He was as old school as he could possibly get. Smith
and his people were all old school guys. Their philosophy going into games was that it
was a constant fight, and you just beat 'em down.
        Away from football, our hangout was this legendary watering hole called the 502
Club. It was a restaurant called the California Pizza and Pasta Company, but the bar was
called the "Five-oh." It was at the corner of Jefferson and McLintock in the University
Village, next to the Bank of America where a Yoshinoya Beef Bowl is now, and it was a
part of USC for about 20 years. Kids at USC today don't have a place like that to go to.
They cab to downtown clubs, or Westwood or the South Bay, but people at USC in those
years had the "Five-oh," and even today if you mention the 502 Club people have this
look in their eyes, like it's a secret code or message, like, "Yeah, I remember the
'Five-oh.' " Coach Smith tried to keep us out of there, but everybody was in there;
baseball players, women athletes, fratties, locals, everyone.
        I felt like I was one of the owners when I went in there. You felt like you knew
everybody. Tony "Bruno" Caravalho, who did own the place, took care of us and I smile
when I hear of it. I almost got sick to my stomach when it closed. Certain guys, most of
the guys met there to blow off steam. Tony made us feel like family. When the 502
closed down from the 1992 riots, it changed USC. Now there's a glitzy corridor between
STAPLES and the Galen Center. The neighborhood's cleaner, there's upscale housing for
faculty, the air quality is greatly improved, and the academics are better, but there's no
place to go on a Thursday night like the old 502 Club. The 901 Club is still around but it
never compared then or now.
        I still stay in touch with Scott Ross. Mike Salmon is doing great, the Gibson
brothers, Don and Craig. We’ve all taken care of Todd Marinovich at one time or
another. He's trying to get well. He's a good guy. Matt Willig and Pat Harlow are good
friends. I married a USC girl, Alana graduated from there. I stayed in L.A. and went to
the Raiders. I was on their practice squad in Los Angeles for one and-a-half years, and
that prolonged my time here. Then my wife and I got married, and I'm sure glad I did stay
in the area. I can't imagine living anywhere else.
        I try to go to as many games as I can at home, but with three kids it's hard on
Saturdays. But my kids love it here. I go out to the practice field two or three times a year
to keep in contact. I know Pete Carroll. We got set up at San Francisco when I was trying
out with the 49ers and he was the DB coach there, so I knew him at San Francisco before
he went to the New England Patriots. He's a people person. I wish I'd played for him.
        It's really hard to explain What it Means to Be a Trojan. It's a great thing and I'm

very honored by it. People do not realize this until they're out of school, and it's like

having a gold medal. I hope I can get my kids in there. I got my start there and love it.
Matttt Gee was a ffour--year lletttterman and tteam capttaiin hiis seniior year.. He was iin tthe
Ma Gee was a our year e erman and eam cap a n h s sen or year He was n he

Los Angelles Raiiders'' organiizattiion beffore becomiing a successffull busiinessman iin tthe
Los Ange es Ra ders organ za on be ore becom ng a success u bus nessman n he

L..A.. area..
L A area


                                        TIM "MAD DOG" LAVIN
                                        TIM "MAD DOG" LAVIN

Fullllback
Fu back
1990 -- 1991
1990 1991


IIn tthe ffalll mostt colllege ffoottballl pllayerrs lliive fforr Satturrday afftterrnoons.. II lliived fforr Tuesday,,
  n he a mos co ege oo ba p aye s ve o Sa u day a e noons                                           ved o Tuesday

Wednesday,, and Thurrsday.. Those werre my days..
Wednesday and Thu sday Those we e my days

         Grrowiing up iin Souttherrn Calliifforrniia II rrememberr allll tthose USC games on TV..
         G ow ng up n Sou he n Ca o n a emembe a hose USC games on TV

Seeiing tthe crrowds iin tthe sttadiium,, hearriing Keiitth Jackson’’s voiice,, and wattchiing "sttudentt
See ng he c owds n he s ad um hea ng Ke h Jackson s vo ce and wa ch ng "s uden

body rriightt.." IItt became my drream tto pllay ffoottballll fforr tthe USC Trrojjans.. Afftterr beiing named
body gh " became my d eam o p ay oo ba o he USC T o ans A e be ng named

CIIF--Souttherrn secttiion Pllayerr off tthe Yearr iin ffoottballll my seniiorr yearr iin hiigh schooll,, II knew
C F Sou he n sec on P aye o he Yea n oo ba my sen o yea n h gh schoo knew

II was welll on my way tto gettttiing a schollarrshiip tto USC.. Butt when II diidn’’tt,, II had ttwo
   was we on my way o ge ng a scho a sh p o USC Bu when d dn                                 had wo

choiices;; go somewherre ellse orr "wallk--on.." Att tthe adviice off numerrous outtsiide iinfflluences,, II
cho ces go somewhe e e se o "wa k on " A he adv ce o nume ous ou s de n uences

was ttolld II woulld neverr pllay att USC,, much lless earrn a schollarrshiip.. II was ttolld tto go tto a
was o d wou d neve p ay a USC much ess ea n a scho a sh p was o d o go o a

smalll schooll and be a biig ffiish iin a lliitttlle pond.. Hearriing tthatt,, my miind was now made up.. II
sma schoo and be a b g sh n a                      e pond Hea ng ha my m nd was now made up

deciided tto "wallk--on" att USC..
dec ded o "wa k on" a USC

IIn Augustt off 1988,, II wallked--on and was obviiouslly sentt tto tthe scoutt tteam.. II was ttolld II
   n Augus o 1988 wa ked on and was obv ous y sen o he scou eam was o d
woulld pllay ffullllback and nott ttaiillback lliike II diid iin hiigh schooll.. Att a sttaggerriing 195
 wou d p ay u back and no a back ke d d n h gh schoo A a s agge ng 195
pounds,, II was curriious how II was goiing tto compette wiitth tthe ottherr ffullllbacks who werre iin
 pounds was cu ous how was go ng o compe e w h he o he u backs who we e n
tthe 225-- tto 245--pound rrange.. On ttop off tthatt,, my ttasks werre tto bllock tthe Trrojjan deffense iin
   he 225 o 245 pound ange On op o ha my asks we e o b ock he T o an de ense n
prracttiice,, who was rranked ffiirrstt orr second iin tthe counttrry att tthe ttiime.. II had tthe diisttiinctt
 p ac ce who was anked s o second n he coun y a he me had he d s nc
honorr and prriiviillege tto ttrry and bllock guys lliike Juniiorr Seau,, Tiim Ryan,, and Scotttt Ross
 hono and p v ege o y and b ock guys ke Jun o Seau T m Ryan and Sco Ross
among many ottherrs.. Needlless tto say,, iitt was brruttall.. II had tto iice down my body daiilly.. Butt,,
 among many o he s Need ess o say was b u a had o ce down my body da y Bu
iitt was ffun..
     was un
The miiddlle off prracttiice week was my ttiime.. We woulld go ffulll pads,, alll outt,, "smash
 The m dd e o p ac ce week was my me We wou d go u pads a ou "smash
moutth" ffoottballll.. II gott iintto morre ffiightts tthan alll tthe ottherr guys on tthe tteam putt ttogettherr.. II
 mou h" oo ba             go n o mo e gh s han a he o he guys on he eam pu oge he
knew II was goiing tto be on scoutt tteam fforr a yearr orr ttwo and II was detterrmiined tto make tthe
 knew was go ng o be on scou eam o a yea o wo and was de e m ned o make he
mostt off iitt.. Go ffulll speed everry pllay.. Those guys hatted me.. II lloved iitt..
 mos o               Go u speed eve y p ay Those guys ha ed me oved
IIn yearr ttwo,, II had made my way on tto speciiall tteams and saw acttiion on Satturrday’’s on
   n yea wo had made my way on o spec a eams and saw ac on on Sa u day s on
kiick--offff and kiick--offff rretturrn.. Ourr speciiall tteams coach,, Bobby Aprriill donned tthe niickname
 k ck o and k ck o e u n Ou spec a eams coach Bobby Ap donned he n ckname
“Mad Dog” on me afftterr knockiing down a Washiingtton Huskiies pllayerr on hiis backsiide
 “Mad Dog” on me a e knock ng down a Wash ng on Husk es p aye on h s backs de
durriing a game att tthe Colliiseum.. Butt,, durriing tthe week II was sttiilll on tthe scoutt tteam.. II was
 du ng a game a he Co seum Bu du ng he week was s on he scou eam was
now pllayiing on speciiall tteams butt sttiilll wantted tto move up tthe deptth charrtt att ffulllback and
 now p ay ng on spec a eams bu s wan ed o move up he dep h cha a u back and
see acttiion iin tthe backffiielld AND earrn tthatt schollarrshiip.. II had tto do sometthiing drrasttiic..
 see ac on n he back e d AND ea n ha scho a sh p had o do some h ng d as c
The bestt parrtt was my ffiightt wiitth Juniiorr Seau,, who had a castt on hiis wrriistt alll ttaped up.. We
 The bes pa was my gh w h Jun o Seau who had a cas on h s w s a aped up We
ffoughtt fforr a good 15 seconds,, whiich iis a lliiffettiime when you arre getttiing hiitt by a castt.. II diid
    ough o a good 15 seconds wh ch s a e me when you a e ge ng h by a cas d d
whatt II coulld and tthe coaches had a hellll off a ttiime brreakiing us up.. II knew II was goiing tto
 wha cou d and he coaches had a he o a me b eak ng us up knew was go ng o
llose,, butt Seau was goiing tto be one ttiirred SOB when iitt was overr.. IIn tthe llockerr rroom afftterr
   ose bu Seau was go ng o be one ed SOB when was ove n he ocke oom a e
prracttiice,, Juniiorr came up tto me and shook my hand and saiid,, "Way tto go Mad Dog,, don'tt
 p ac ce Jun o came up o me and shook my hand and sa d "Way o go Mad Dog don'
everr giive up.."
 eve g ve up "
Then ttherre was Nottrre Dame week.. II nottiiced a San Frranciisco 49errs hellmett hangiing iin tthe
 Then he e was No e Dame week no ced a San F anc sco 49e s he me hang ng n he
equiipmentt rroom as decorrattiion.. II grrabbed tthe hellmett and peelled offff tthe sttiickerr.. II now had
 equ pmen oom as deco a on g abbed he he me and pee ed o he s cke now had
a golld hellmett and iitt ffiitt “allmostt” perrffecttlly.. IItt was rrealllly ttiightt.. II gave mysellff a buzz haiirr
 a go d he me and                    “a mos ” pe ec y was ea y gh gave myse a buzz ha
cutt tto make a lliitttlle morre rroom and suiitted up.. II had allso memorriized tthe Nottrre Dame ffiightt
 cu o make a                e mo e oom and su ed up had a so memo zed he No e Dame gh
song.. When my tteammattes hiitt tthe ffiielld,, ttherre werre 110 guys wiitth ttheiirr carrdiinall hellmetts
 song When my eamma es h he e d he e we e 110 guys w h he ca d na he me s
on.. II hiitt tthe ffiielld wiitth a golld hellmett siingiing,, “Cheerr,, cheerr,, fforr olld Nottrre Dame.. Wake
 on h he e d w h a go d he me s ng ng “Chee chee o o d No e Dame Wake
up tthe echoes hearriing herr name…” II jjustt keptt rrunniing arround tthe ffiielld siingiing,, wearriing
 up he echoes hea ng he name…” us kep unn ng a ound he e d s ng ng wea ng
tthiis golld hellmett and waiittiing fforr scrriimmage ttiime.. Needlless tto say,, when tthe scrriimmage
   h s go d he me and wa ng o sc mmage me Need ess o say when he sc mmage
sttarrtted,, everryone was down att ourr end off tthe ffiielld wattchiing.. The mediia,, kiickerrs,, puntterrs,,
 s a ed eve yone was down a ou end o he e d wa ch ng The med a k cke s pun e s
and llong snapperrs sttarrtted a cheerriing secttiion.. Everry pllay ttherre was a ffiightt.. The
 and ong snappe s s a ed a chee ng sec on Eve y p ay he e was a gh The
exciittementt arround us had tthe pllayerrs and coaches att tthe ottherr end off tthe ffiielld wattchiing
 exc emen a ound us had he p aye s and coaches a he o he end o he e d wa ch ng
and nott doiing ttheiirr own pllays.. IItt was absollutte madness and II had tthe bestt ttiime off my lliiffe..
 and no do ng he own p ays was abso u e madness and had he bes me o my e
Shorrttlly afftterr tthatt,, II gott a lletttterr iin tthe maiill ffrrom tthe USC atthllettiic deparrttmentt:: "Due tto
 Sho y a e ha go a e e n he ma om he USC a h e c depa men "Due o
yourr efffforrtts,, we arre putttiing you on schollarrshiip.." IItt’’s a grreatt day tto be a Trrojjan!! Forr tthe
 you e o s we a e pu ng you on scho a sh p " s a g ea day o be a T o an Fo he
nextt ttwo seasons II was pllaced on everry speciiall tteam and alltterrnatted att ffulllback.. Nott
 nex wo seasons was p aced on eve y spec a eam and a e na ed a u back No
known as "Fullllback--U,," II ffiiniished wiitth jjustt tthrree carrrriies fforr 22 yarrds durriing my carreerr..
 known as "Fu back U " n shed w h us h ee ca es o 22 ya ds du ng my ca ee
II was afffforrded ttwo quiick ttrryoutts iin tthe NFL wiitth tthe 49errs and tthe Raiiderrs.. II diidn’’tt make
     was a o ded wo qu ck you s n he NFL w h he 49e s and he Ra de s d dn make
iitt.. Butt,, II llook back and rrealliized II had a bllastt.. We werre on tthrree consecuttiive bowll
       Bu          ook back and ea zed had a b as We we e on h ee consecu ve bow
tteams.. The Rose Bowll was obviiouslly verry exciittiing.. Everrytthiing lleadiing up tto tthe game iis
   eams The Rose Bow was obv ous y ve y exc ng Eve y h ng ead ng up o he game s
a majjorr eventt and everry pllayerr iis ttrreatted lliike a sttarr.. Even tthough II wasn'tt a sttarr,, iitt was a
 a ma o even and eve y p aye s ea ed ke a s a Even hough wasn' a s a                                                was a
bllessiing tto have some lliitttlle kiid ask fforr yourr auttogrraph,, wantt a photto wiitth you,, orr jjustt
 b ess ng o have some                     e k d ask o you au og aph wan a pho o w h you o us
wattch hiim smiille because he mett a pllayerr fforr tthe Trrojjans.. Surre,, everry pllayerr enjjoys tthe
 wa ch h m sm e because he me a p aye o he T o ans Su e eve y p aye en oys he
attmospherre and tthe tthrriilll off rrunniing on tthe ffiielld iin tthe llarrgestt sttadiiums iin tthe counttrry,,
 a mosphe e and he h o unn ng on he e d n he a ges s ad ums n he coun y
and pllayiing iin tthe biiggestt games on nattiionall TV.. Butt,, iitt iis allso tthe ttiimes when you arre
 and p ay ng n he b gges games on na ona TV Bu                                     s a so he mes when you a e
mett by tthe youngstterrs.. IIn tthe hottell llobby,, ttherre werre severrall kiids iin wheellchaiirrs askiing
 me by he youngs e s n he ho e obby he e we e seve a k ds n whee cha s ask ng
fforr auttogrraphs and phottos and ttellliing us how prroud ttherre werre off us.. Att tthatt poiintt,, II was
    o au og aphs and pho os and e ng us how p oud he e we e o us A ha po n was
jjustt bllessed II coulld wallk and had tthe grreatt,, hearrttwarrmiing momentt tto make tthatt kiid happy
   us b essed cou d wa k and had he g ea hea wa m ng momen o make ha k d happy
fforr jjustt a ffew seconds.. IItt putts lliiffe iin perrspecttiive and II wallked away iin ttearrs..
    o us a ew seconds pu s e n pe spec ve and wa ked away n ea s
IIn tthe end,, II gott tto pllay ffoottballl att tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Souttherrn Calliifforrniia.. II gott tto pllay fforr
   n he end go o p ay oo ba a he Un ve s y o Sou he n Ca o n a go o p ay o
tthe Trrojjans wiitth overr a centturry off hiisttorriic ttrradiittiions.. II gott tto do sometthiing tthatt miillliions
   he T o ans w h ove a cen u y o h s o c ad ons go o do some h ng ha m ons
off ottherrs drream aboutt.. IItt's a grreatt day tto be a Trrojjan.. II am so grratteffull
 o o he s d eam abou 's a g ea day o be a T o an am so g a e u
Tiim Laviin was iinvollved iin tthe program ffrom 1988--91.. Orgiinallly a "wallk--on,," he
T m Lav n was nvo ved n he program rom 1988 91 Org na y a "wa k on " he

earned a schollarshiip tthrough hard work and ttallentt and was a member off ttwo Rose
earned a scho arsh p hrough hard work and a en and was a member o wo Rose

Bowll tteams ((1988--89)) and tthe 1990 tteam tthatt wentt tto tthe John Hancock Bowll.. He iis
Bow eams 1988 89 and he 1990 eam ha wen o he John Hancock Bow He s

workiing on a book aboutt hiis experiiences wiitth tthe cattchy,, Doors--riiffff ttiittlle Wallk On
work ng on a book abou h s exper ences w h he ca chy Doors r                             e Wa k On

Through tto tthe Otther Siide..
Through o he O her S de



PAST AND FUTURE PLAY WINNING TENNIS AT MERCEDES

StreetZebra, 2000



UCLA's Gimelstob helps SC's Leach make last year a winning one.

A bit of the past teamed with a bit of the future when former UCLA tennis star Justin

Gimelstob teamed with ex-USC national champion Rick Leach to defeat some local talent

(Zach Fleischman/John Fruttero) in a first round doubles match at the Mercedes-Benz

Cup on Tuesday, July 25 at UCLA's Los Angeles Tennis Center, 6-4, 6-4.

        The match was a homecoming for both players. Gimelstob has previously been

quoted as saying that the Tennis Center was "his house," a reference to his home court

during his UCLA days.

"I wish I could retract that," he says. "I meant just to say that I'm determined to do my
best when I play here."
Justin also played down the significance of an ex-Bruin playing with an ex-Trojan.
"That stuff's far removed from where we are now," he remarked. "I'm just honored to
play with Rick because he's got so much experience. I know he has a steady partner, but
last year I approached him and said that if he ever needed someone, I'd love to play with
him, and to learn from him."
The 6-6 Gimelstobs' father was a college basketball player, and Justin had success in
hoops growing up in New Jersey and Florida.
"What I get from basketball, it's difficult to really compare," he says, "but the sacrifice
and pressure of all sports is related. Actually, tennis is different, being an individual
sport, but doubles does lend itself to the team concept a little more. It's interesting to
observe your partner and make suggestions."
As for the team of Fleischman and Fruttero, Justin remarked, "They're good young
players."
Looking back (it is only a couple years, but tennis pros morph into "grizzled vets" pretty
fast), Gimelstob said he chose UCLA because he wanted to stay with a coach who was
associated with the program, and "I just loved playing for Billy," a reference to long-time
coach Billy Martin.
The southpaw Leach is a very mature player with an attacking style that is tailored to his
doubles game, which is one of the best in the world. Rick grew up with Street Zebra.com
executive producer John Simerson, who claimed to have taught him all his "bad habits"
off the court. Leachie was more than willing to pin the blame on Big John, but he could
not defend his decision not to choose Simerson as his doubles partner despite their 4-0
record together in the amateur ranks.
All kidding aside, Rick recalled that "His <Simerson's> parents were nice enough to let
me stay in his house when I was traveling on the California Junior Davis Cup circuit,
and we've been friends ever since," which includes their time playing together under
Leach's father, Dick, the head coach at USC.
"Every time I come here it brings back memories," Leach said of playing at UCLA, which
was constructed for the 1984 Olympics and became the Bruins' court during his SC
career. "We used to play at the old sunset courts, but after they built this place the rivalry
was hot, and we'd fill the stadium. It's never been a mean rivalry, not a hatred kind of
thing."
Leach is one of the most consistent players on the tour, having won a major tournament
championship in each of the past 14 seasons. In January, he and regular partner Ellis
Ferreira won the Australian Open doubles title, but Ferreira did not want to travel so
much in between Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, which left Leach looking for a partner in
Los Angeles.
The Mercedes-Benz is a big deal to a guy who grew up in Arcadia and Laguna, then
played for his dad at SC. It was a homecoming for both players, and the crowd was
sprinkled with friends and supporters.
"Ferreira's my normal partner," said Leach, "but he wanted another week to rest his
back, which has been hurting him. The rest of the summer's gonna be pretty heated, right
on up to the U.S. Open. I've known Justin since he joined the pro tour, and I've had some
intense battles with him. He offered to be my partner, and I'm excited to be here. As for
the SC-UCLA rivalry, I gave him a hard time, asking if he'd be parking in the
handicapped zone, but it's all in good fun."
(For those who were not in L.A. a year ago, UCLA's football team ran into trouble when
it was discovered many of their players were illegally issued handicapped parking
stickers.)
"All my shots are geared to rushing the net," Leach says of his aggressive style.
"Volleying is my biggest asset, it's how I've made a living, and with Justin and myself,
we're both tall and feel we control the net. I don't think I've lost my quickness at the net,
and in doubles the game is won or lost there."
The rumor mill has swirled with word that Leach is retiring at the end of this season to
succeed his dad as SC's coach, but Leach adamantly insists that, while he will be
assisting his father on a full-time paid basis, it is strictly that: Assisting. Still, with his
background and credentials, Leach will likely be considered for the top job when the time
comes.
"I'll be there every day," he says of the upcoming challenge. "I just hope I've learned
from my dad--his demeanor is quiet and patient, since he was a player himself and
understands the pressure. My dad sees us <SC> in the top 15 next season, but our goal is
to get back to beating Stanford again. I just hope to share my knowledge with the kids,
who can use the college experience as a stepping stone."
The Trojans' lost a number of key players to injury or the pro ranks before the 2000
season, and most of their losses were 4-3, so they obviously are close to the top. What
motivated Leach to retire?
"I'm married, and I want to spend more time with my family," he says. "This season I've
been to Europe four times, we travel all the time, and I'm just tired of living out of a
suitcase. I want to be able to sleep in my own bed every night."
I spoke to Rick about the legendary George Toley, who coached Stan Smith and USC to
three National Championships in the 1960s, before Dick Leach took over.
"I had the privilege of knowing Coach Toley since I was a kid," he says of the man who
was inducted into the Tennis hall of Fame this year.
Leach is still excited about having won the Australian doubles championship early this
year.
"It was totally unexpected," he says. "We played the last set to 18-16. I just don't think it's
good to play a tiebreaker in the fifth set of a grand slam event."
This makes sense for Leach to have this attitude, since years ago his father played the
longest match of all time, which Rick states was the motivating factor in the creation of
the tie-breaker.
The aches and pains of the pro tour have taken their toll on Leach, who ices his aching
knee after matches.
"I just wish we could play on more soft courts in the U.S.," he says, but with the exception
of the South, clay courts are rare here.
Leach has had a successful career, and made his friends and family proud. No doubt, his
contributions at his alma mater will continue to keep him in the spotlight of the L.A.
tennis scene for a long time to come.


                                   TASO PAPADAKIS

Fullback, Inside Linebacker
1994, 1996

Like my father before me I played at Rolling Hills High School, but when they combined

it with Palos Verdes High it became Peninsula High, which is what it was when my

younger brothers went there. I was at USC from 1993 to 1998 and graduated with a

diploma in religious studies with an emphasis on Eastern thought.
         I was involved in the football program from 1993 to the spring of 1997, but I

stepped out of it when I had my fifth orthopedic surgery at the end of spring practice in

'97. I just thought, "That's that!" I came in as a fullback originally until they changed me

to a middle linebacker a year and a half into it, just like my dad had been a running back

but they moved him to linebacker because they had running backs like Sam "Bam"

Cunningham ahead of him.

         To me, education was the most important part of What It Means to Be a Trojan. I

studied in the religion school. When I was there it was considered progressive. I got

hooked into the subject from a class I took for general education. I was turned on by the

rhetoric, the train of thought and analysis that coupled with emotions, and discovering

deeper paths of spiritual thought. The teachers were progressive. One interesting

professor was on a real "Jesus kick" with emphasis on the historical New Testament and

the role of Easter. Professor Peter Nosco was the head of Eastern religious studies, which

teaches many different courses on Eastern thought, including Zen Buddhism. I finished

really strong with these classes.

Beiing Grreek,, II grrew up nott rrealliiziing tthe siigniiffiicance off my herriittage unttiill II coulld gett
 Be ng G eek g ew up no ea z ng he s gn cance o my he age un                                        cou d ge
some rrettrrospecttiive.. II llook back att my ffattherr,, who woulld rread poettrry,, iinclludiing "The
 some e ospec ve ook back a my a he who wou d ead poe y nc ud ng "The
Beatts":: Alllen Giinsberrg,, Riicharrd Brrauttiigan,, Jack Kerrouac;; miind bendiing sttuffff,, meantt tto
 Bea s" A en G nsbe g R cha d B au gan Jack Ke ouac m nd bend ng s u mean o
be rread outt lloud lliike "Howll.." Brrauttiigan's Dreamscape was cooll tto hearr.. My ffattherr
 be ead ou oud ke "How " B au gan's Dreamscape was coo o hea My a he
prracttiiced hiis speeches iin ffrrontt off us.. He was a mottiivattiionall speakerr wiitth a tthrrough--lliine
 p ac ced h s speeches n on o us He was a mo va ona speake w h a h ough ne
on Grreek conceptts,, off tthe "IId,," he'd rread Ullysses and Homerr.. Hiis conceptts and iideas,,
 on G eek concep s o he " d " he'd ead U ysses and Home H s concep s and deas
aboutt apprroachiing peoplle,, rrellattiionshiips,, phiillosophiicall iideas,, werre allways beiing espoused
 abou app oach ng peop e e a onsh ps ph osoph ca deas we e a ways be ng espoused
arround tthe house.. Food was allso a biig parrtt off my upbrriingiing,, a cellebrrattiion off lliiffe.. Ourr
 a ound he house Food was a so a b g pa o my upb ng ng a ce eb a on o e Ou
rrelliigiious emphasiis was Luttherran,, and iin my hiigh schooll memorriiall II quotted verrses ffrrom
  e g ous emphas s was Lu he an and n my h gh schoo memo a quo ed ve ses om
IIsaiiah.. II was exposed tto a llott off tthatt..
  sa ah was exposed o a o o ha
            I didn't choose this, to apply the cognition of philosophy, when I played. I did not

address those issues at the time. It's demanding if you start thinking, it involves the

opening of areas that create sensitivity, and that's not so hot about running into fullbacks.
On a football team you don't want to give anybody a reason to second-guess you. I didn't

want to have real conflicts. There's not really a symbiosis between the two studies,

football thinking and philosophical thinking. I was stuck in an area between the two and

waited until I was out of football to expand my way of thinking.

The intellectual pursuit that I engaged in class helps me now. I think everything you learn
in life can be used, whether it be writing or photography. People tuck away inside of
themselves the things they learn. Perhaps these issues don't manifest themselves on the
images I photograph, but it's present. I don't always know what it means, but my
education enriches my work.
John Robinson was my coach. My experiences with him are easier to make sense of now
that I'm outside of the game. I was hurt and worked myself back into playing shape. I had
different experiences, but he was a wonderful speaker. He knew young people
unbelievably well. The way he spoke to you was very emotional, it was very direct and
personal. As a coach he was a little scattered. Choosing assistants, he surrounded himself
with people he trusted and relied on, but the way he chose, he kind of lacked specificity
with his coaching. He gathered up on a conversation then walked over and talked to some
alumni, then came back. He was entitled to his point of view and due the respect worthy
of his accomplishments, but at that stage of his career, I don't know the levels of his
motivation to come back after he'd been out of it awhile. From my experience he was like
a father to me, but his focus was not as much as it should have been. He was a beautiful
man but a bit disconnected, and even a bit jaded.
It always came back to academics at SC. I was in special religious department and didn't
stray too far from that. I was at USC at a time when Dr. Steven Sample was establishing
himself and turning USC from a very good university to a world-class institution of
higher learning. He insisted on higher entrance requirements and there was a transition
period.
A lot of alumni saw what was happening and came to the conclusion that there was a
trade-off; that Dr. Sample could preside over a great academic university or a great
football school, but not both. I think towards the time I left and when my brother Petros
was there, the alumni was satisfied that we were now a top academic school and it was
okay not to dominate in football as long as we were.
Dr. Sample had a lot of inter-action with the football team. I knew him quite well. He was
very energetic and passionate. As a football player, our role as student-athletes was clear.
When Coach Pete Carroll came in he had the challenge of restoring the football tradition
while maintaining academics, and to have successfully accomplished that has been a
huge achievement. I don’t know too much about the program on a day-to-day basis, but I
interact with Pete. He lives near my family in Rolling Hills Estates and I see him at the
pizza parlor with his family or down at the Hermosa pier. He loves the beach and
inter-acts with fans there. They give him plays and he takes them seriously.
Pete gives you his undivided attention and looks you in the eyes. He listens very intently
and has a unique countenance with people. Anything he does is intense with results that
are correct or successful. At that level he's going to succeed and not just in football. It's
not just the way he conducts practice. He's not pre-occupied and lives in the moment.
Pete's son was at Peninsula High School and my brother plays there. He takes
suggestions, he likes the ocean, it's like a good church for him. Fans come up to him and
like any good director takes suggestions. He's open-minded, he's able to have as much
going on as he does and the kids are open-minded with him. Every day he's your "god,"
so you mold yourself into that kind of mentality. He studies and his football players see
he's open-minded and grab onto his ideas. A coach gives you his personality, and if he's
maniacal then you feel constricted.
As far as my studies go, it's possible I was below par. I spent a lot of time slamming
dominoes on a table in school and could have studied more, or managed my time better
off the field. Some quarterbacks are pre-med. It's not easy, but I did well and loved it.
        I spent 10 years as a Shakespearean actor in productions up and down the coast. I

performed in some of the "sweat houses" in Hollywood, and have the Shakespearean

language. Petros also loved and reads Shakespeare and would quote from The Bard at

press conferences when he was playing, which perked up the ears of writers not used to

hearing such things. When I got to Hamlet it was the end of the line. Macbeth is a role

that ruins your mentality for awhile. I've never been to London to study with the

Shakespearean masters, I but saw Ian McKellen play King Lear.



Taso Papadakiis comes ffrom tthe "royall ffamiilly off USC.." Hiis ffatther,, John and
Taso Papadak s comes rom he "roya am y o USC " H s a her John and

brotther,, Pettros pllayed ffor Troy.. Hiis grandmotther "satt iin" on wriittiing cllasses att tthe
bro her Pe ros p ayed or Troy H s grandmo her "sa n" on wr ng c asses a he

schooll beffore embarkiing on screenpllays and daiilly miissiives she sends tto tthe
schoo be ore embark ng on screenp ays and da y m ss ves she sends o he

newspaper.. Pettros iis a hiigh--proffiille member off tthe L..A.. mediia.. The ffamiilly
newspaper Pe ros s a h gh pro e member o he L A med a The am y

resttaurantt,, Papadakiis Taverna iin San Pedro,, was tthe ffiinestt Greek eattery iin tthe ciitty,,
res auran Papadak s Taverna n San Pedro was he nes Greek ea ery n he c y

and desttiinattiion ffor counttlless Trojjans afftter games over tthe years.. Taso iis a
and des na on or coun ess Tro ans a er games over he years Taso s a

phottographer whose work can be viiewed att www..Tasophotto..com..
pho ographer whose work can be v ewed a www Tasopho o com



I''S TOO EARLY TO HYPE PALMER FOR HEISMAN .. .. .. OR IS IT?
I S TOO EARLY TO HYPE PALMER FOR HEISMAN           OR IS IT?

SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000
IIff Trrojjans'' wiin,, quarrtterrback wiilll be a candiidatte
     T o ans w n qua e back w be a cand da e


The Uniiversiitty off Soutthern Calliifforniia''s sttoriied ffoottballl program allways lliived and diied
The Un vers y o Sou hern Ca orn a s s or ed oo ba program a ways ved and d ed

by tthe run.. Att lleastt,, tthatt iis tthe way we remember iitt.. Four Heiisman Tropy--wiinniing
by he run A eas ha s he way we remember Four He sman Tropy w nn ng

ttaiillbacks ((Miike Garretttt ''65,, O..J.. Siimpson ''68,, Charlles Whiitte ''79 and Marcus Allllen ''81))
  a backs M ke Garre 65 O J S mpson 68 Char es Wh e 79 and Marcus A en 81

esttablliished tthe schooll as "Taiillback U.." However,, tthey had ttop--nottch quartterbacks
es ab shed he schoo as "Ta back U " However hey had op no ch quar erbacks

handiing offf tto alll tthose sttuds,, and putttiing tthe ballll iin tthe aiir efffecttiivelly enough tto keep tthe
hand ng o o a hose s uds and pu ng he ba n he a r e ec ve y enough o keep he

deffense honestt..
de ense hones

          "We''ve allways had a greatt quartterback ttradiittiion,, goiing back tto Pette Beatthard
          "We ve a ways had a grea quar erback rad on go ng back o Pe e Bea hard

and Biillll Nellson iin 1962;; Craiig Ferttiig iin 1964,, and tthe bestt colllege quartterback ffor tthe
and B Ne son n 1962 Cra g Fer g n 1964 and he bes co ege quar erback or he

kiind off tteam we had when O..J.. Siimpson was here was Stteve Sogge,," says Garrettt,, now
k nd o eam we had when O J S mpson was here was S eve Sogge " says Garre now

ttheiir atthllettiic diirecttor.. "Miike Rae and Patt Haden were good proffessiionall quartterbacks,,
  he r a h e c d rec or "M ke Rae and Pa Haden were good pro ess ona quar erbacks

as was Sean Salliisbury.. Rodney Peette was a Heiisman candiidatte iin 1988,, and iin tthe
as was Sean Sa sbury Rodney Pee e was a He sman cand da e n 1988 and n he

1990s Rob Johnson sttarred..
1990s Rob Johnson s arred

"The emphasiis on tthe pass shows more creattiiviitty" tthan tthe olld
 "The emphas s on he pass shows more crea v y" han he o d
"tthree--yards--and--a--clloud--off--dustt" menttalliitty.. "The conceptt has changed,, as
 " hree yards and a c oud o dus " men a y "The concep has changed as
300--pounders on deffense are now quiicker and more agiille.."
 300 pounders on de ense are now qu cker and more ag e "
 The school has transitioned from a power-running offense to a more sophisticated
 passing system since John Robinson first left in 1982.
Carson Pallmer was one off tthe mostt hiighlly recruiitted prep ffoottballl sttars iin tthe nattiion att
 Carson Pa mer was one o he mos h gh y recru ed prep oo ba s ars n he na on a
Santta Margariitta Hiigh Schooll iin 1997.. He sttartted severall games wiitth success as a ttrue
 San a Margar a H gh Schoo n 1997 He s ar ed severa games w h success as a rue
ffreshman iin 1998,, butt tthe road tto gllory was iintterruptted by an iinjjury llastt year..
  reshman n 1998 bu he road o g ory was n errup ed by an n ury as year
 Asked about Palmer, USC sports information director Tim Tessalone practices "low
 expectations" Heisman politics.
"He has a llegiittiimatte chance tto be a candiidatte iin 2001,, butt tthatt remaiins tto be seen,," says
 "He has a eg ma e chance o be a cand da e n 2001 bu ha rema ns o be seen " says
Tessallone.. "IIff he perfforms welll,, everytthiing wiilll ffalll iintto pllace.. IIff he getts offff tto a biig sttartt,,
 Tessa one " he per orms we every h ng w a n o p ace he ge s o o a b g s ar
maybe he''llll be a candiidatte by miid--season,, butt tthatt''s jjustt a questtiion riightt now.. IIff iitt does
 maybe he be a cand da e by m d season bu ha s us a ques on r gh now                                             does
happen,, we''re prepared tto do whatt iis necessary tto expose hiim tto tthe nattiion and promotte
 happen we re prepared o do wha s necessary o expose h m o he na on and promo e
hiis candiidacy.."
 h s cand dacy "
          Coach Paul Hackett is like Hamlet's mother, who "doth protests too much," when
the talk turns to the Heisman.

         "I'm not trying to play it down, but he needs to have a year of playing time. He's

not arrived yet," he says, then adds, "He does have a great supporting cast. I'm excited,

maybe he'll merit it."

The ffavoriittes are Drew Brees off Purdue and Miichaell Viick off Viirgiiniia Tech.. Pallmer beatt
 The avor es are Drew Brees o Purdue and M chae V ck o V rg n a Tech Pa mer bea
Brees iin 1998.. Sophomore Viick,, nott lliikelly tto pllay iin a New Year''s nattiionall champiionshiip
 Brees n 1998 Sophomore V ck no ke y o p ay n a New Year s na ona champ onsh p
game agaiin,, ttoiills iin tthe backwatters off Bllacksburg,, Viirgiiniia..
 game aga n o s n he backwa ers o B acksburg V rg n a
 Southern Cal is in a position to have their best team since the 1996 Rose Bowl champs.
 They have the speed, experience and schedule to contend for the National Championship.
 If they beat Penn State in the Kickoff Classic, get off to a 5-0 start, and Palmer is putting
 up numbers, he will start getting Heisman mention. He is also helped by the fact that SC
 has transitioned from its traditional emphasis on the run into the West Coast offense.
"We''ve shiifftted ffrom beiing a hardcore runniing tteam,," admiitts Hackettt,, addiing "we aspiire
 "We ve sh ed rom be ng a hardcore runn ng eam " adm s Hacke add ng "we asp re
tto gett back tto tthatt.. We need an asserttiive offfensiive lliine tto do tthiis,, and a ttaiillback tthatt can
  o ge back o ha We need an asser ve o ens ve ne o do h s and a a back ha can
handlle tthe chore,, butt Carson setts tthe ttone.. He''lll onlly be a success as llong as he has a
 hand e he chore bu Carson se s he one He on y be a success as ong as he has a
runner he can hand offff tto a llott.."
 runner he can hand o o a o "
 If Sultan McCullough runs for 1,200 yards, and Palmer throws for 200 yards a game,
 USC will win with a balanced attack.
"IIff we wiin,," says Pallmer,, "everytthiing wiilll ffalll iintto pllace.. II won''tt wiin tthe Heiisman unlless
 " we w n " says Pa mer "every h ng w a n o p ace won w n he He sman un ess
we''re iin tthe ttop ffiive,, compettiing iin tthe Orange Bowll or Rose Bowll att tthe end off tthe year.."
 we re n he op ve compe ng n he Orange Bow or Rose Bow a he end o he year "
 Coming off his injury last year, Palmer says "I'm a bundle of nervous energy getting
 ready for the season. Right now, I'm working on my timing and rhythm with the receivers,
 and I watched a lot of film. I don't have any restraints placed on me, except that I'm
 under orders to duck out of bounds instead of lowering my shoulder. In high school, the
 DBs were 160 pounds, but here they're my size."
Pallmer grew up near SC''s pre--season IIrviine ttraiiniing camp,, pllayiing ffor Santta Margariitta
 Pa mer grew up near SC s pre season rv ne ra n ng camp p ay ng or San a Margar a
coach Bob Johnson,, a man who iis llargelly responsiiblle ffor Soutth Orange Countty''s
 coach Bob Johnson a man who s arge y respons b e or Sou h Orange Coun y s
reputtattiion as "quartterback Heaven.."
 repu a on as "quar erback Heaven "
                 Palmer is the latest of this group (Todd Marinovich, Rob Johnson, among

others) to lead the Trojans', and probably play in the NFL. He could be the first of them

to bring home that little guy with the high-stepping gait.


BARRY ZIITO IIS KEY TO OAKLAND''S RE--EMERGENCE
BARRY Z TO S KEY TO OAKLAND S RE EMERGENCE

San Frranciisco Examiinerr,, 2001
San F anc sco Exam ne 2001



Barry Ziitto remiinds peoplle off Biillll Bordlley.. Who,, you miightt ask? Welll,, ffor tthose off us who
Barry Z o rem nds peop e o B Bord ey Who you m gh ask? We or hose o us who
saw hiim,, Bordlley was tthe bestt collllege piittcher ever.. Some peoplle tthoughtt he was as good
saw h m Bord ey was he bes co ege p cher ever Some peop e hough he was as good

as Sandy Kouffax.. There are scoutts and Paciiffiic 10 umpiires who say he was tthe bestt
as Sandy Kou ax There are scou s and Pac c 10 ump res who say he was he bes

piittcher iin tthe worlld,, nott jjustt iin colllege,, back when he was lleadiing USC tto tthe 1978
p cher n he wor d no us n co ege back when he was ead ng USC o he 1978

nattiionall champiionshiip..
na ona champ onsh p

         Ziitto has tthe siize,, tthe biig kiick,, tthe hesiittattiion att tthe ttop off hiis mottiion,, and tthe
         Z o has he s ze he b g k ck he hes a on a he op o h s mo on and he

cllassiic Kouffax--sttylle overhand delliivery.. He briings iitt welll over 90 miilles per hour,, wiitth
c ass c Kou ax s y e overhand de very He br ngs we over 90 m es per hour w h

hop and movementt.. Hiis curveballl cracklles..
hop and movemen H s curveba crack es

"He''s tthe reall deall,," says USC coach Miike Giilllespiie,, who coached Ziitto when tthe ttalll
 "He s he rea dea " says USC coach M ke G esp e who coached Z o when he a
llefftty was tthe ttop piittcher iin tthe nattiion iin 1999.. Barry became a riich young man when tthe
   e y was he op p cher n he na on n 1999 Barry became a r ch young man when he
Oaklland A''s made hiim ttheiir ffiirstt piick iin tthe drafftt.. IItt has alll happened prettty ffastt..
 Oak and A s made h m he r rs p ck n he dra                            has a happened pre y as
Ziitto grew up iin tthe San Diiego area,, roottiing ffor tthe Padres.. Att Uniiversiitty Hiigh Schooll,,
 Z o grew up n he San D ego area roo ng or he Padres A Un vers y H gh Schoo
he had a "decentt" seniior year,, tthrew a ffasttballl tthatt ttopped outt around 83 miilles an hour,,
 he had a "decen " sen or year hrew a as ba ha opped ou around 83 m es an hour
and was drafftted iin tthe ffiifftty--niintth round iin 1996.. He was hellped on hiis mechaniics by a
 and was dra ed n he y n n h round n 1996 He was he ped on h s mechan cs by a
coach named Craiig Weiisman,, and siix montths afftter graduattiion was tthrowiing 10 miilles an
 coach named Cra g We sman and s x mon hs a er gradua on was hrow ng 10 m es an
hour harder..
 hour harder
Barry ttook hiis 3..1 grade poiintt average tto UC--Santta Barbara and coach Bob Bronsema,,
 Barry ook h s 3 1 grade po n average o UC San a Barbara and coach Bob Bronsema
whiich seemed lliike a prettty good choiice att tthe ttiime.. Call Sttatte,, Nortthriidge and Wake
 wh ch seemed ke a pre y good cho ce a he me Ca S a e Nor hr dge and Wake
Forestt lliiked hiim,, ttoo,, butt tthe SC''s,, Fulllertton''s and Miiamii''s off tthe worlld had biigger ffiish
 Fores ked h m oo bu he SC s Fu er on s and M am s o he wor d had b gger sh
tto ffry..
   o ry
"SC seemed outt off my reach,," recallls Barry.. "II gott ffullll ffiinanciiall aiid tto Santta Barbara,,
 "SC seemed ou o my reach " reca s Barry " go u nanc a a d o San a Barbara
pllus some schollarshiip hellp.."
 p us some scho arsh p he p "
IItt happens tto some kiids.. Tom Seaver wentt iintto tthe Mariines and came outt a balll off
     happens o some k ds Tom Seaver wen n o he Mar nes and came ou a ba o
musclle.. How can you expllaiin iitt? Yes,, Barry lliifftted weiightts and worked hard,, butt hiis
 musc e How can you exp a n ? Yes Barry ed we gh s and worked hard bu h s
"llatte" devellopmentt can onlly be attttriibutted tto God,, who seems tto have a pllan ffor armiies,,
 " a e" deve opmen can on y be a r bu ed o God who seems o have a p an or arm es
counttriies,, kiings and balll pllayers -- somettiimes.. Att Santta Barbara he was a ffreshman
 coun r es k ngs and ba p ayers some mes A San a Barbara he was a reshman
Alll--Ameriican,, sttriikiing outt 125 iin 85 iinniings.. He was up tto 6--3,, 195 pounds,, and tthe
 A Amer can s r k ng ou 125 n 85 nn ngs He was up o 6 3 195 pounds and he
scoutts ttook notte off hiis iimproved mechaniics..
 scou s ook no e o h s mproved mechan cs
He sttartted workiing wiitth a San Fernando Vallley ttraiiner,, Allan Jagger,, and ffiigured tthatt he
 He s ar ed work ng w h a San Fernando Va ey ra ner A an Jagger and gured ha he
had enttered a wiindow off opporttuniitty iin whiich he woulld be elliigiiblle ffor some biig bonus
 had en ered a w ndow o oppor un y n wh ch he wou d be e g b e or some b g bonus
money..
 money
"Santta Barbara jjustt wasn''tt a hiigh--proffiille program,," he says..
 "San a Barbara us wasn a h gh pro e program " he says
For tthiis reason,, he ttransfferred tto L..A.. Piierce Colllege,, alltthough he says hiis departture
 For h s reason he rans erred o L A P erce Co ege a hough he says h s depar ure
ffrom Santta Barbara was uglly.. Ziitto showcased hiis wares ffor tthe 1998 drafftt,, and was 9--2
   rom San a Barbara was ug y Z o showcased h s wares or he 1998 dra and was 9 2
wiitth a 2..60 ERA and 135 sttriikeoutts iin 103 iinniings..
 w h a 2 60 ERA and 135 s r keou s n 103 nn ngs
"The compettiittiion jjustt wasn''tt tthatt good iin JC,," says Barry..
 "The compe on us wasn ha good n JC " says Barry
Afftter llosiing tto Harbor iin tthe sttatte pllay--offfs,, Ziitto ffound hiimsellff drafftted iin tthe tthiird round
 A er os ng o Harbor n he s a e p ay o s Z o ound h mse dra ed n he h rd round
by Texas.. He was iinttentt on siigniing,, butt he iis a savvy guy who knew hiis markett vallue.. The
 by Texas He was n en on s gn ng bu he s a savvy guy who knew h s marke va ue The
Rangers came iin att $350,,000,, butt Barry helld outt ffor more,, ffiinallly ttook offff ffor tthe Cape
 Rangers came n a $350 000 bu Barry he d ou or more na y ook o or he Cape
Cod League,, and llefftt hiis Dad iin charge off tthe negottiiattiions.. The olld man has a
 Cod League and e h s Dad n charge o he nego a ons The o d man has a
hard--nosed reputtattiion,, no doubtt based on hiis money demands.. Ziitto made tthe Cape
 hard nosed repu a on no doub based on h s money demands Z o made he Cape
Alll--Sttar tteam,, butt deciided nott tto siign..
 A S ar eam bu dec ded no o s gn
The resulltt was a wiindffalll ffor Miike Giilllespiie,, who needed a new iinffusiion off ttallentt tto
 The resu was a w nd a or M ke G esp e who needed a new n us on o a en o
repllace alll tthe sttuds who won hiim tthe ''98 Nattiionall Champiionshiip.. Ziitto piicked SC over
 rep ace a he s uds who won h m he 98 Na ona Champ onsh p Z o p cked SC over
Cllemson,, butt he had tto go tto Grossmontt Colllege tto gett an A..A.. degee ffiirstt.. He enrolllled att
 C emson bu he had o go o Grossmon Co ege o ge an A A degee rs He enro ed a
Soutthern Call iin January,, 1999,, and iimmediiattelly assumed tthe rolle off ace..
 Sou hern Ca n January 1999 and mmed a e y assumed he ro e o ace
Giillllespiie lloved hiim,, and he lloved Giilllespiie..
 G esp e oved h m and he oved G esp e
"II allso experiienced Rod Dedeaux,," Ziitto says,, recallliing gettttiing tthe chance tto meett tthe
 " a so exper enced Rod Dedeaux " Z o says reca ng ge ng he chance o mee he
llegendary fformer coach.. He was a consensus Alll--Ameriican iin 1999,, piittchiing tthe Trojjans
   egendary ormer coach He was a consensus A Amer can n 1999 p ch ng he Tro ans
pastt Pepperdiine iin tthe Westt Regiionall beffore tthe tteam llostt a hearttbreakiing 1--0 deciisiion
 pas Pepperd ne n he Wes Reg ona be ore he eam os a hear break ng 1 0 dec s on
tto Sttanfford''s Jason Young,, when a fflly balll was llostt iin tthe dusk att Sunken Diiamond,, wiitth
   o S an ord s Jason Young when a y ba was os n he dusk a Sunken D amond w h
tthe Collllege Worlld Seriies on tthe lliine.. For ffans tthatt were unaware off Barry''s rocky butt
   he Co ege Wor d Ser es on he ne For ans ha were unaware o Barry s rocky bu
ffllashy road,, he seemed tto be a surpriise.. Scoutts,, coaches,, Giilllespiie;; tthey gott whatt tthey
    ashy road he seemed o be a surpr se Scou s coaches G esp e hey go wha hey
expectted..
 expec ed
"The USC--Sttanfford riivallry iis allways a batttlle,," Ziitto says off whatt iis probablly tthe bestt
 "The USC S an ord r va ry s a ways a ba e " Z o says o wha s probab y he bes
conffronttattiion iin tthe nattiion.. "They''d come here,, wiin ttwo off tthree.. We''d go tthere,, ttake ttwo
 con ron a on n he na on "They d come here w n wo o hree We d go here ake wo
off tthree.."
 o hree "
The diisappoiinttmentt off nott piittchiing Troy tto a repeatt nattiionall ttiittlle quiicklly wore offf when
 The d sappo n men o no p ch ng Troy o a repea na ona                                   e qu ck y wore o when
Biilllly Beane,, tthe A''s boy geniius GM and archiittectt off baseballl''s bestt sttory tthe llastt ffew
 B y Beane he A s boy gen us GM and arch ec o baseba s bes s ory he as ew
years,, made Barry ttheiir number one piick.. $1..6 miillliion llatter,, Ziitto was lliighttiing up tthe
 years made Barry he r number one p ck $1 6 m on a er Z o was gh ng up he
Calliifforniia League,, where he was 3--0 wiitth a 2..45 ERA wiitth 62 sttriikeoutts iin 40 iinniings off
 Ca orn a League where he was 3 0 w h a 2 45 ERA w h 62 s r keou s n 40 nn ngs o
work att Viisalliia.. IIn miid--Augustt he ffound hiimsellff iin Miidlland ((AA Texas League)),, and
 work a V sa a n m d Augus he ound h mse n M d and AA Texas League and
whiille he diid nott schmoose wiitth George W,, he diid piittch ffour iimpressiive games..
 wh e he d d no schmoose w h George W he d d p ch our mpress ve games
"IItt''s a ttiiny ttown,," Ziitto says off tthe pllace where tthe Presiidentt grew up.. "Hiigh schooll
 " s a ny own " Z o says o he p ace where he Pres den grew up "H gh schoo
ffoottballll iis huge tthere.."
   oo ba s huge here "
He iis a sttriikeoutt piittcher allll tthe way,, who has llearned tto ttrustt hiis bulllpen----or so he
 He s a s r keou p cher a he way who has earned o rus h s bu pen or so he
says----butt afftter usuallly ffaciing 130--piittch lliimiitts,, when he broke iintto proffessiionall balll he
 says bu a er usua y ac ng 130 p ch m s when he broke n o pro ess ona ba he
ffound hiimsellff lliimiitted tto 100 piittches by tthe prottecttiive A''s..
   ound h mse m ed o 100 p ches by he pro ec ve A s
   Ziitto''s work etthiic iis llegendary.. He says off tthe subjjectt off gettttiing ready ffor Spriing
    Z o s work e h c s egendary He says o he sub ec o ge ng ready or Spr ng
Traiiniing,, "tthe lless II wiillll have tto cattch up tto peoplle.. II don''tt worry aboutt tthe otther guys,, II
 Tra n ng " he ess w have o ca ch up o peop e don worry abou he o her guys
can''tt gett caughtt up iin iitt.. II don''tt llose siightt off whatt II wantt and II know whatt II need tto do tto
 can ge caugh up n                    don ose s gh o wha wan and know wha need o do o
work hard,, and have everytthiing ffallll iin pllace.."
 work hard and have every h ng a n p ace "
He works wiitth a nuttriittiioniistt and a personall ttraiiner every day iis tthe offf--season.. The resulltt
 He works w h a nu r on s and a persona ra ner every day s he o season The resu
iis tthatt he has gaiined weiightt butt llostt body ffatt siince tturniing pro,, whiille puttttiing speed on hiis
   s ha he has ga ned we gh bu os body a s nce urn ng pro wh e pu ng speed on h s
heatter.. Att tthe recentt SC allumnii game,, piittchers ffrom botth siides were getttiing ttagged iin a
 hea er A he recen SC a umn game p chers rom bo h s des were ge ng agged n a
sllugffestt.. Then Ziitto came iin,, and iin one very iimpressiive iinniing he mowed down tthe
 s ug es Then Z o came n and n one very mpress ve nn ng he mowed down he
assortted pros tthatt make up tthe allumnii as iiff tthey had fforgotttten tto briing ttheiir batts..
 assor ed pros ha make up he a umn as hey had orgo en o br ng he r ba s
Thiis iis a kiid who makes you siitt up and ttake nottiice.. You woulld morttgage tthe sttadiium tto
 Th s s a k d who makes you s up and ake no ce You wou d mor gage he s ad um o
siign tthiis guy afftter wattchiing hiim tthrow 20 piittches!! Thatt iis tthe tthiinkiing off every generall
 s gn h s guy a er wa ch ng h m hrow 20 p ches Tha s he h nk ng o every genera
manager iin baseballl,, ttoo.. Beane probablly had tto hiire exttra secrettariies tto handlle allll tthe
 manager n baseba oo Beane probab y had o h re ex ra secre ar es o hand e a he
calllls he gott ffrom otther tteams wiillliing tto ttake Ziitto offf hiis hands.. One possiiblle ttrade allmostt
 ca s he go rom o her eams w ng o ake Z o o h s hands One poss b e rade a mos
wentt down,, a bllockbustter wiitth tthe Angells iinvollviing Jiim Edmonds.. Alltthough tthe dettaiills
 wen down a b ockbus er w h he Ange s nvo v ng J m Edmonds A hough he de a s
were nott revealled,, one can surmiise tthatt Ziitto was whatt tthe Angells wantted,, and whatt tthe
 were no revea ed one can surm se ha Z o was wha he Ange s wan ed and wha he
A''s woulld nott giive up,, even ffor a pllayer lliike Edmonds..
 A s wou d no g ve up even or a p ayer ke Edmonds
Beane helld on tto Ziitto.. Edmonds ended up lleadiing Stt.. Louiis tto tthe 2000 Centtrall Diiviisiion
 Beane he d on o Z o Edmonds ended up ead ng S Lou s o he 2000 Cen ra D v s on
champiionshiip.. The A’’s broughtt Ziitto allong sllowlly llastt year.. He piittched ffor tthe
 champ onsh p The A s brough Z o a ong s ow y as year He p ched or he
Sacramentto Riiverdogs,, and ffiinallly made tthe jjump tto Oaklland llatte iin tthe year.. Justt iin
 Sacramen o R verdogs and na y made he ump o Oak and a e n he year Jus n
ttiime..
    me
Ziitto may have been jjustt tthe spark tthe cllub needed tto overttake Seatttlle by one game tto
 Z o may have been us he spark he c ub needed o over ake Sea e by one game o
captture tthe Westt Diiviisiion ttiittlle.. IIn tthe Pllay--Offfs,, Ziitto’’s iinspiired perfformance beattiing tthe
 cap ure he Wes D v s on e n he P ay O s Z o s nsp red per ormance bea ng he
vauntted Yankees iin New York was one off tthe greatt comiing outt parttiies iin a llong ttiime..
 vaun ed Yankees n New York was one o he grea com ng ou par es n a ong me
         "II allways knew tthe A''s diidn''tt wantt tto llose me,," says Ziitto.. The prospectt off Oaklland
         " a ways knew he A s d dn wan o ose me " says Z o The prospec o Oak and

devellopiing a sttaffff around Tiim Hudson,, Mark Mullder and Ziitto has llong--ttiime Bay Area
deve op ng a s a around T m Hudson Mark Mu der and Z o has ong me Bay Area

ffans waxiing nosttallgiic ffor tthe days off Cattffiish Huntter,, Ken Hollttzman and Viida Bllue..
  ans wax ng nos a g c or he days o Ca sh Hun er Ken Ho zman and V da B ue

         "The A''s had tthe bestt allll--around miinor lleague systtem iin baseballll my ffiirstt year iin
         "The A s had he bes a around m nor eague sys em n baseba my rs year n

tthe organiizattiion,," says Barry.. Two years llatter,, many expertts prediictt tthiis wiilll be tthe
  he organ za on " says Barry Two years a er many exper s pred c h s w be he

Team off tthe Decade iin tthe ffiirstt 10 years off tthe new centtury..
Team o he Decade n he rs 10 years o he new cen ury

"We have greatt coachiing,," say Ziitto off hiis miinor devellopmentt.. "Ron Romanek,, fformerlly
"We have grea coach ng " say Z o o h s m nor deve opmen "Ron Romanek ormer y
wiitth Seattttlle,, hellped me a llott.. So diid tthe roviing coaches,, Curtt Young,, Gllenn Abbottt and
w h Sea e he ped me a o So d d he rov ng coaches Cur Young G enn Abbo and
Pette Riichertt.."
Pe e R cher "
Barry iis a very niice,, polliitte young man wiitth Holllywood good llooks.. He iis managed by
Barry s a very n ce po e young man w h Ho ywood good ooks He s managed by
Paull Cohen off TWC Managementt,, and ttraiins att Healltth Soutth iin tthe San Fernano Vallley..
Pau Cohen o TWC Managemen and ra ns a Hea h Sou h n he San Fernano Va ey
He has a chance,, iiff he can avoiid iinjjury unlliike tthe greatt Bordlley,, tto enjjoy a greatt career..
He has a chance he can avo d n ury un ke he grea Bord ey o en oy a grea career
Wattchiing tthiis guy iis allready ffun!!
Wa ch ng h s guy s a ready un


                                            JOHN ROBINSON
                                            JOHN ROBINSON

Head Coach
Head Coach
1976 -- 1982,, 1993 -- 1997
1976 1982 1993 1997


                                                               e eam n 1970 1971 and hen n
USC had enjjoyed success iin 1962 wiitth a nattiionall ttiittlle tteam.. IIn 1970,, 1971;; and tthen iin
USC had en oyed success n 1962 w h a na ona

'72 tthey had tthe grreattestt tteam off alll ttiime.. Sam Cunniingham was a cattallystt iin 1970,, a
 '72 hey had he g ea es eam o a me Sam Cunn ngham was a ca a ys n 1970 a

grreatt guy and a grreatt atthllette,, butt tthose ttwo men,, John McKay and Paull "Bearr" Brryantt,, by
g ea guy and a g ea a h e e bu hose wo men John McKay and Pau "Bea " B yan by

tthe natturre off ttheiirr rrellattiionshiip,, brriidged tthe gap and saw some off tthatt change befforre iitt
  he na u e o he e a onsh p b dged he gap and saw some o ha change be o e

happened.. We see tthiis iin tthe effffectt off tthe 1970 USC--Allabama game,, and iitt was tthe
happened We see h s n he e ec o he 1970 USC A abama game and was he

experriience off tthe sophomorres off tthatt yearr who fforrmed tthe iincrrediiblle '72 champiions..
expe ence o he sophomo es o ha yea who o med he nc ed b e '72 champ ons

         Now,, iiff you tthiink aboutt tthe effffectt off tthe Westt Coastt on sociietty and how iitt pllays
         Now you h nk abou he e ec o he Wes Coas on soc e y and how p ays
outt iin sporrtts,, II tthiink we'rre kiind off wacky anyway.. A llott off ciiviill rriightts tthiings werre
ou n spo s h nk we' e k nd o wacky anyway A o o c v gh s h ngs we e

happeniing,, and Calliifforrniia was parrtt off tthatt wholle scene..
happen ng and Ca o n a was pa o ha who e scene

Up att tthe Uniiverrsiitty off Orregon,, we werre lliike a rradiicall "ttrriiplle--A" balll cllub.. They sentt you
 Up a he Un ve s y o O egon we we e ke a ad ca " p e A" ba c ub They sen you
ttherre fforr "ttrraiiniing.." Therre was a llott off unrrestt,, new grround beiing opened iin tthose arreas..
   he e o " a n ng " The e was a o o un es new g ound be ng opened n hose a eas
Peoplle iin ottherr parrtts off tthe counttrry werre rrellucttantt,, butt ttherre was a llott off new grround
 Peop e n o he pa s o he coun y we e e uc an bu he e was a o o new g ound
beiing opened up on tthe Westt Coastt,, nott jjustt iin ciiviill rriightts lliike iin tthe Soutth,, butt iin tthe
 be ng opened up on he Wes Coas no us n c v gh s ke n he Sou h bu n he
everry day expansiion off tthiings.. IIn tterrms off atthllettiics,, iitt seems tthatt so many ttallentted
 eve y day expans on o h ngs n e ms o a h e cs seems ha so many a en ed
Affrriican--Amerriican kiids gott a chance tto pllay iin hiigh schooll iin L..A..,, and you'rre nott gonna
 A can Ame can k ds go a chance o p ay n h gh schoo n L A and you' e no gonna
succeed unlless you had rrecrruiitted tthose pllayerrs..
 succeed un ess you had ec u ed hose p aye s
Overr a 20--yearr perriiod ffrrom 1962 tto 1982,, USC was prrobablly as sttrrong iin ffoottballl as any
 Ove a 20 yea pe od om 1962 o 1982 USC was p obab y as s ong n oo ba as any
collllege everr was.. Ourr llocattiion was advanttageous.. We'rre rriightt iin tthe miiddlle off tthe iinnerr
 co ege eve was Ou oca on was advan ageous We' e gh n he m dd e o he nne
 c y so many k ds g ew up wan ng o p ay o SC f hey we e baske ba p aye s hey
ciitty,, so many kiids grrew up wanttiing tto pllay fforr SC.. IIf tthey werre baskettballll pllayerrs,, tthey
wantted tto go tto UCLA.. Wiitth alll tthatt goiing on,, iitt was a majjorr advanttage,, and nattiionalllly
 wan ed o go o UCLA W h a ha go ng on was a ma o advan age and na ona y
USC allways beneffiitted ffrrom tthe ffactt tthatt Affrriican--Amerriicans ffelltt wellcome ttherre..
 USC a ways bene ed om he ac ha A can Ame cans e we come he e
Therre's no questtiion tthatt SC gott iitt rriightt.. A llott off bllack kiids llooked att UCLA as beiing iin
 The e's no ques on ha SC go                         gh A o o b ack k ds ooked a UCLA as be ng n
tthe rriich parrtt off ttown,, so we had tthiis sttrrange miixtturre off alll tthiings tthatt lliinked us ttogettherr..
   he ch pa o own so we had h s s ange m x u e o a h ngs ha nked us oge he
Maybe Miiamii was lliike tthatt,, durriing tthatt sttrrettch when tthey werre so good you saw Miiamii
 Maybe M am was ke ha du ng ha s e ch when hey we e so good you saw M am
and SC,, siimiillarrlly diid nott have grreatt ffaciilliittiies,, butt each had grreatt weattherr,, butt atthllettes ffelltt
 and SC s m a y d d no have g ea ac es bu each had g ea wea he bu a h e es e
att home att tthese schoolls,, and diisciiplliine was nott a halllmarrk..
 a home a hese schoo s and d sc p ne was no a ha ma k
Therre's a coalliittiion off peoplle iin tthe sttands att an SC game tthatt a polliittiiciian woulld drream off..
 The e's a coa on o peop e n he s ands a an SC game ha a po c an wou d d eam o
II''d drriive tthrrough soutth--centtrrall L..A.. and peoplle woulld wave att you iiff you werre ffrrom SC..
    d d ve h ough sou h cen a L A and peop e wou d wave a you you we e om SC
One ottherr tthiing iis tthatt Affrriican--Amerriican atthllettes became verry sociiallly adeptt att USC..
 One o he h ng s ha A can Ame can a h e es became ve y soc a y adep a USC
Maybe tthiis was because off tthe Hollllywood connecttiion,, orr because tthe schooll's llocatted iin
 Maybe h s was because o he Ho ywood connec on o because he schoo 's oca ed n
a majjorr ciitty.. Therre's allways mediia arround,, and McKay was brriillliiantt,, he exposed hiis
 a ma o c y The e's a ways med a a ound and McKay was b an he exposed h s
pllayerrs tto tthe mediia,, tto allumnii grroups,, and so tthey became verry comfforrttablle and
 p aye s o he med a o a umn g oups and so hey became ve y com o ab e and
polliished.. Liistten tto Cunniingham,, Miike Garrrrettt,, Lynn Swann,, Marrcus Allllen;; tthey arre
 po shed L s en o Cunn ngham M ke Ga e Lynn Swann Ma cus A en hey a e
savvy wiitth tthe prress,, wellll spoken and rreprresentt tthe schooll beauttiiffulllly.. Nott alll atthllettes,,
 savvy w h he p ess we spoken and ep esen he schoo beau u y No a a h e es
bllack orr whiitte,, do tthiis rrolle wellll..
 b ack o wh e do h s o e we
IItt's nott jjustt ffoottballl pllayerrs orr bllack atthllettes.. Look att John Naberr,, Patt Haden,, Tom
     's no us oo ba p aye s o b ack a h e es Look a John Nabe Pa Haden Tom
Seaverr.. Famous peoplle go ttherre.. O..J.. obviiouslly fflliipped butt befforre tthatt;; befforre he had hiis
 Seave Famous peop e go he e O J obv ous y pped bu be o e ha be o e he had h s
collllapse,, he was a sttarr iin Holllywood and sporrttscasttiing..
 co apse he was a s a n Ho ywood and spo scas ng
IItt's a majjorr mettrropolliittan arrea wiitth ttwo,, tthrree,, ffourr newspaperrs and a llott off TV coverrage..
     's a ma o me opo an a ea w h wo h ee ou newspape s and a o o TV cove age
IItt's diifffferrentt iiff you go tto,, say,, Atthens,, Georrgiia and tthe llocall guy iis askiing a pllayerr a
     's d e en you go o say A hens Geo g a and he oca guy s ask ng a p aye a
questtiion,, and down ttherre iitt's,, "Yes,, siirr;; no,, siirr;; prroud tto be herre,, siirr,," tthose kiinds off
 ques on and down he e 's "Yes s no s p oud o be he e s " hose k nds o
questtiions..
 ques ons
USC and UCLA atthllettes werre exposed tto so much morre,, and werre ffrrom a ttown wiitth ttwo
 USC and UCLA a h e es we e exposed o so much mo e and we e om a own w h wo
prro ffoottballll tteams,, ttwo baseballl tteams,, ttwo baskettballl tteams,, and a brroaderr sociiall worrlld..
 p o oo ba eams wo baseba eams wo baske ba eams and a b oade soc a wo d
IItt's verry iintterresttiing and iirroniic tthatt iin tthe 1980s and earrlly '90s iitt kiind off tturrned tthiings tthe
     's ve y n e es ng and on c ha n he 1980s and ea y '90s k nd o u ned h ngs he
ottherr way wiitth tthe rriiotts,, and tthiis made iitt -- L..A.. -- a negattiive pllace.. USC baskettballl and
 o he way w h he o s and h s made                             L A a nega ve p ace USC baske ba and
ffoottballll ttook a diip,, iitt was nott as atttrracttiive as iitt had been,, butt iin rrecentt yearrs tthe ciitty,, tthe
    oo ba ook a d p was no as a ac ve as had been bu n ecen yea s he c y he
sttatte and USC have made a comeback..
 s a e and USC have made a comeback
IItt was ffun tto be ttherre.. A llott off tthose atthllettes werre grreatt ffrriiends off miine,, The 1979 tteam,,
      was un o be he e A o o hose a h e es we e g ea ends o m ne The 1979 eam
tthe onlly negattiive was Antthony Munoz gott hurrtt iin tthe ffiirrstt game and pllayed jjustt tthe llastt
   he on y nega ve was An hony Munoz go hu n he s game and p ayed us he as
game.. Marrcus Allllen was a sophomorre,, we had a grreatt secondarry,, and we werre lloaded
 game Ma cus A en was a sophomo e we had a g ea seconda y and we we e oaded
ffrrom ffrreshmen tto seniiorrs.. The 1972 tteam was a vetterran tteam;; botth werre rreallly good
     om eshmen o sen o s The 1972 eam was a ve e an eam bo h we e ea y good
tteams.. II was an assiisttantt,, Marrv Goux and mysellff.. We werre botth guys who werre ttherre
   eams was an ass s an Ma v Goux and myse We we e bo h guys who we e he e
wiitth John McKay.. IItt's sad tthatt Marrv passed on.. Thatt '72 yearr was magiicall,, especiiallly
 w h John McKay 's sad ha Ma v passed on Tha '72 yea was mag ca espec a y
afftterr II'd been att Orregon..
 a e 'd been a O egon
II was att USC fforr a numberr off yearrs underr McKay,, tthen John Madden had me fforr a one
    was a USC o a numbe o yea s unde McKay hen John Madden had me o a one
yearr iin Oaklland iin orrderr tto brroaden my rrange fforr head coachiing,, as USC had me iin miind
 yea n Oak and n o de o b oaden my ange o head coach ng as USC had me n m nd
fforr rrepllaciing McKay.. Thatt happened.. Somettiimes tthe harrdestt tthiing iis tto be prromotted
   o ep ac ng McKay Tha happened Some mes he ha des h ng s o be p omo ed
     om ass s an o head coach so my one yea a Oak and k nd o he ped me ans on f
ffrrom assiisttantt tto head coach,, so my one yearr att Oaklland kiind off hellped me ttrransiittiion.. IIf
you go away,, peoplle tthiink you'rre bettterr.. To be successffull,, II adviise a coach tto ttake on
 you go away peop e h nk you' e be e To be success u adv se a coach o ake on
diifffferrentt jjobs underr diifffferrentt coaches and devellop a rrange off experriience..
 d e en obs unde d e en coaches and deve op a ange o expe ence
Thatt's whatt Pette Carrrrollll's done,, and now he's brriingiing alll tthiis back att USC.. II had an easy
 Tha 's wha Pe e Ca o 's done and now he's b ng ng a h s back a USC had an easy
ttrransiittiion and jjustt saiid,, "II don'tt wantt tto change a tthiing.." Cerrttaiinlly notthiing majjorr.. II was
    ans on and us sa d " don' wan o change a h ng " Ce a n y no h ng ma o was
hiirred overr tthe phone.. They jjustt calllled me,, II was att tthe aiirrporrtt,, and tthey saiid,, "Do you
 h ed ove he phone They us ca ed me was a he a po and hey sa d "Do you
wantt tthe jjob?" II saiid,, "Yes,," and II was iin..
 wan he ob?" sa d "Yes " and was n


John Robiinson was an assiisttantt coach ffor ttwo nattiionall champiions under John
John Rob nson was an ass s an coach or wo na ona champ ons under John

McKay ((1972,, 1974)),, tthen coached USC tto tthe 1978 nattiionall champiionshiip,, won
McKay 1972 1974 hen coached USC o he 1978 na ona champ onsh p won

tthree Rose Bowlls,, and had ttwo pllayers ((Charlles Whiitte,, Marcus Alllen)) wiin Heiisman
  hree Rose Bow s and had wo p ayers Char es Wh e Marcus A en w n He sman

Trophiies.. Bettween 1976 and 1982 hiis tteams beatt UCLA ffiive ttiimes whiille beattiing
Troph es Be ween 1976 and 1982 h s eams bea UCLA ve mes wh e bea ng

Nottre Dame ffiive sttraiightt ttiimes ((and siix off seven)).. Hiis ffiirstt ttenure complletted tthe
No re Dame ve s ra gh mes and s x o seven H s rs enure comp e ed he

mostt domiinantt ttwo--decade periiod any collllege has ever had.. Afftter a successffull sttiintt
mos dom nan wo decade per od any co ege has ever had A er a success u s n

as head off tthe Los Angelles Rams,, he retturned tto coach att Troy ffrom 1993--97.. Thiis
as head o he Los Ange es Rams he re urned o coach a Troy rom 1993 97 Th s

iinclluded a 55--14 pasttiing off Texas Tech iin tthe 1995 Cotttton Bowll;; tthe 1995 Paciiffiic--10
  nc uded a 55 14 pas ng o Texas Tech n he 1995 Co on Bow he 1995 Pac c 10

Confference ttiittlle;; and a 41--32 ttriiumph over Nortthwesttern iin tthe Rose Bowll..
Con erence e and a 41 32 r umph over Nor hwes ern n he Rose Bow


"FOR REAL!"
"FOR REAL!"

S reetZebra, 2000
SttreetZebra, 2000




SC's Trrepagniierr,, tthe Trrojjans'' mostt atthllettiic pllayerr,, has come iintto hiis own..
SC's T epagn e he T o ans mos a h e c p aye has come n o h s own


"For reall!!?" was Jefff Trepagniier''s reacttiion when ttolld he woulld be tthe cover sttory iin tthe
"For rea ?" was Je Trepagn er s reac on when o d he wou d be he cover s ory n he

March iissue off SttreettZebra..
March ssue o S ree Zebra
         Trepagniier''s iinffecttiious entthusiiasm shiines tthrough when USC''s handsome 6--4,,
         Trepagn er s n ec ous en hus asm sh nes hrough when USC s handsome 6 4

195--pound guard ffllashes hiis miilllliion--dolllar smiille.. No seen--iitt--alll,, mediia--weary hiisttriioniics
195 pound guard ashes h s m on do ar sm e No seen a med a weary h s r on cs

ffrom Jefff,, who seems surpriised tthatt he iis tthe ffocus off atttenttiion..
  rom Je who seems surpr sed ha he s he ocus o a en on

He shoulld nott be.. Trepagniier iis tthe bestt atthllette on a tteam tthatt iis emergiing as one off tthe
 He shou d no be Trepagn er s he bes a h e e on a eam ha s emerg ng as one o he
mostt iintteresttiing colllege baskettballl sttoriies iin tthe nattiion.. Whetther tthe Trojjans'' make tthe
 mos n eres ng co ege baske ba s or es n he na on Whe her he Tro ans make he
NCAA Tournamentt,, and how ffar tthey advance,, iis sttiillll very much up iin tthe aiir.. So iis
 NCAA Tournamen and how ar hey advance s s very much up n he a r So s
Trepagniier,, every ttiime tthe bestt shootter on SC''s opponentt ttakes a shott.. Trepagniier has
 Trepagn er every me he bes shoo er on SC s opponen akes a sho Trepagn er has
bllocked hiis share off tthose shotts because he does nott merelly jjump hiigh,, butt he iis
 b ocked h s share o hose sho s because he does no mere y ump h gh bu he s
super--quiick..
 super qu ck
"II wasn''tt allways ablle tto jjump hiigh,," he says.. "IItt jjustt sttartted tto be natturall ffor me afftter tthe
 " wasn a ways ab e o ump h gh " he says " us s ar ed o be na ura or me a er he
ttentth grade.."
  en h grade "
         Tha wa a Comp on H gh Schoo , whe e he p ayed or coach Rod Pa mer who ha ince moved
         Thatt wass att Comptton Hiigh Schooll, wherre he pllayed ffor coach Rod Pallmer ((who hass ssince moved

 o Cen ennial) and wa named o va ious A l-American eams USA Today S reet & Sm th) and made a l
tto Centtennial)and wass named tto varrious Alll-American tteams ((USAToday,, Sttreet & Smiith)and made alll

 he egional a l-star quads Long Beach P ess-Telegram' ' Be t n he We t and D eam Team A l-CIF
tthe rregional alll-star ssquads ((Long Beach Prress-Telegramss Besst iin tthe Wesst and Drream Team,, Alll-CIF

Sou hern Sec ion D vision I irst eam, Ca -Hi' ' A l-Californ a, Moo e League MVP LA. T mes' A l-South
Soutthern Secttion Diivision IIIffirst tteam, Call-Hiss Alll-Californiia, Moorre League MVP,, L..A. Tiimes'Alll-South

Coa t League .
Coasst League)).

          Trepagnier's natural leaping ability has been augmented by hard work. Henry

Bibby brought in former N.B.A. center Paul Mokeskie to work with the big men. The

results: Front court players' Brian Scalabrine and David Bluthenthal are stronger,

quicker, display better ball-handling skills, and make fewer mistakes. Trepagnier is not a

big man, but the conditioning work, weight training, and ladder drills have paid off for

him as well.

"We do anticipation foot drills <fake pass competitions> every day," explains Coach
Bibby of their 45-minute daily practice ritual, designed to improve foot speed. "The guys'
have improved in those situations, all our players now anticipate where the next pass is
gonna be."
Trepagnier set the school season season steal's record by mid-season.
"That's not a goal of the team," says Bibby. "The goals we have pertain to team goals. If
that's his goal, fine. Steals come from teammates creating steals, whether he knows that
or not."
Trepagnier knows. He also knows that Bibby has been to the mountaintop, and deserves
respect.
"He's won NCAA titles, an NBA and a CBA title," says Trepagnier. "He has the
experience, so when he tells us something we take account of that. We've invested in the
coach, we believe in him 100 percent. Practices are a lot more enjoyable, now that we're
winning. He tells us practice is over, but guys' stay and work on other things. When we
were 9-19, going to practice was like going to a funeral, everybody dreaded it, but you
can't doubt him, even when things go wrong."
Trepagnier is given the task of guarding the best offensive player on the other team.
\       "My focus is on defense in practice," he says. "We work on sliding drills and

full-speed cutbacks. Playing good defense gets our all-around game going. Coach Bibby

doesn't stress offense in practice."

       Trepagnier believes in Bibby, and vice versa. While Trepagnier is a phenomenal

player when it comes to steals and blocked shots, the rap on him is that he takes

ill-advised shots.

"The players don't have a green light," says Bibby of his shot-selection policy. "Jeff got
off-track in the beginning, but he knows, and the whole team knows, that the shots will
come. Trepagnier always takes one or two bad shots per night. He's aggressive. I've
never seen a player who doesn't take bad shots, everyone takes their share of bad shots.
He has to be patient and let the game come to him, maybe not beat his man off the
dribble, but instead get more free throws. He makes up for his bad shots with good
plays on the other end. Jeff is better than he was last year, he plays hard every night. I
have no complaints."
"I've taken some bad shots," admits Trepagnier. "Coach Bibby tells me don't force it. I
play 40 minutes a night, I just let the game come to me now."
Trepagnier has learned not to "force it" on defense, as well as on offense.
"Jeff had some silly fouls," Bibby says of the maturation process. "We worked on cutting
back on his mistakes. I want to play hard defense, and not think about fouls. We don't quit
playing, we'll play Jeff with four fouls. College players don't really `grow up' until their
junior years. It's a big step from one year to the next."
Trepagnier, a junior, has grown up with his teammates. The leader of the Trojans' is
another junior, 6-9 Brian Scalabrine. Scalabrine has the work ethic of Richard Nixon, a
willingness to spend long hours working on fundamentals like footwork, or going to his
left.
"Brian influences us in lots of ways," says Jeff. "He works hard the whole practice, so we
know we should work hard like Brian. He takes constructive criticism, and we have good
chemistry."
Scalabrine is also outspoken, willing to talk up the Trojans' program in a town where
basketball has always been spelled U-C-L-A. Until now.
"We try not to get involved with the media, we're not about controversy," says
Trepagnier, "but when he says we're gonna win, we know we have to do it. We have to
work hard all week to back him up."
Scalabrine pointed out that local coverage is centered in Westwood, but after SC's
convincing January 12 victory over the Bruins', he told any writer willing to listen that
Southern Cal deserved more props. It may be a little early to make this kind of prediction,
but the potential for a cataclysmic power shift in college basketball exists.
Bibby is a highly respected coach, a man who started for three straight National
Championship teams under John Wooden at UCLA He has paid his dues and his status is
now paying off on the recruiting trail. USC has broken ground on a state of the art,
on-campus arena. The current squad has the potential to make a solid mark for
themselves once March Madness gets underway. Steve Lavin is under fire, and the UCLA
program is a mess right now. All of this means that SC has a chance to become a
basketball school, something that they should, be considering the talent base in Southern
California. This is a window of opportunity that needs to be handled better than the last
time SC was on the cusp of real change.
That was in 1986. After capturing a share of the Pac-10 championship in 1985, Stan
Morrison recruited "The Four Freshmen," the best in-coming class in the country, but
when George Raveling replaced him, three of the freshmen transferred. Had they stayed,
USC may have been a Sweet 16 team (or better), and Harold Miner might have been able
to deliver them to the
Promised Land a few seasons later.

       "We know we're pioneers for the future of Trojan basketball,"    says Trepagnier,

"and we're buying into Coach Bibby's system. Being tied for first helps with recruiting,

we need to get more local players. When we get the arena, we can get blue chip

prospects."

Of UCLA's recent troubles, Trepagnier says, "We try to go after them, but we know
they're gunning for us <after S.C. beat them the first time>. We have to work hard to stay
up there. In the past we looked to them, but we know they have great players."
Trepagnier, like all of the Trojans' key players, returns next season. Regardless of how
2000 shakes out, the future is bright at University Park.


MARCH MADNESS: U.S.C. PREVIEW

"This is a great win," Henry Bibby told the media after Southern Cal ended UCLA's
10-game victory skein over the Trojans'. "The streak is over."
        "We're tired of playing second fiddle in the L.A. Times," said Brian Scalabrine.

"They <UCLA.> get all the hype."

Bruin assistant Jim Saia tried to put a positive spin on what looked to be the dawning of
the Bibby Era.
"Scalabrine was solid inside and out," said Saia. "He exposed us, we didn't stop him, and
you've got to give SC credit. Still, it's not mid-season yet, we've got a long way to go."
Some writers are placing Scalabrine on a pedestal, but Bibby is a no-nonsense type,
"We're in charge," said Bibby of on-court decision-making, "not Brian. He's good, but
he's not Michael Jordan."
David Bluthenthal (28 rebounds vs. Arizona State) on playing in Israel:
"You could hear bombs going off in the Golan Heights," he recalled. "There were guards
with Uzis at the airport, we all had armed guards. The Israelis didn't act surprised, most
people there are darker than I am, but the other delegations seemed surprised at me
being with Israel. I felt comfortable there. I went to the Wailing Wall and swam in the
Dead Sea. Clubs in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are wild, it's like Miami's South Beach."


Revenge at Pauley

On February 9 at Pauley, UCLA got their revenge. Scalabrine was a floor leader for

Troy, bringing the ball up court along with David Bluthenthal on more than one

occasion.

       "When you play as much as I have, it just comes naturally," says the big redhead

of his skills. "You get tired posting up all the time. I try to lead by example by working

hard, 'cause I have to in order to be a good player."

"Jerome Moiso's tough to guard," said Bluthenthal, who dominated the boards early.
Moiso, seemingly in answer to Bluthenthal's strong game, responded with great work in
the paint that included some spectacular dunks.
"We knew it would be tough stopping them," said Jeff Trepagnier, "Jason Kapono really
stepped it up." Trepagnier's shot selection was markedly improved, and he made some
nice fall-aways, as well as some well-executed floor driving, followed by a sweet stop,
pull and swish.
"I've been working on that part of my game," he explained.
Paul Mokeskie is modest, but the finesse demonstrated by SC's big men is a direct result
of his coaching.
"We have talented players," he said. "We work on getting them to do their pivot moves in
such a way as not to be called for traveling, which happens to a lot of big men. Brian
works hard because he knows he has to."
The UCLA cheering section finished up their school song with "F--k SC." every time.
USC is no better. School officials need to clean up their respective acts. John Wooden
must cringe when he hears this garbage.


A RELIQUARY FOR REAL BASEBALL FANS
StreetZebra, 2000
Lee, Postema and Moe Berg are inducted into "Shrine of the Eternals"



"Reliquary" means "casket" or "resting place." In the context of the Baseball Reliquary,
"resting place" is more appropriate. Sanctuary might be even better. Sanctuary from the
too-fast, the pedestrian, the average. It is a little known organization, but a delight for
real baseball fans. Actually, it may not be for every baseball fan. The Reliquary is for the
more cerebral among us, as it is devoted to that beautiful confluence of art and baseball.
You see, baseball is the favorite sport of intellectuals, who are able to appreciate its
intricacies, both on and off the field.
        The Reliquary reserves its honors for those who distinguished themselves (in one

form or another) off the field as much as on. Curt Flood and Doc Ellis were among the

1999 inductees. Remember these guys? Ellis got in hot water by complaining about the

softness of his pillow while on Pittsburgh Pirates' road trips, implying that it was some

kind of plot against black players. The white establishment vilified him, and while he was

not always on the mark, in the long run he did expose some truths about baseball. During

his day, the game was not as "color blind" as Bowie Kuhn might have wanted fans to

believe.

Flood sacrificed an All-Star career to challenge the reserve clause, and in the end
opened the gates to free agency. Of course, some might think him evil for doing that, but
the old system was about as unconstitutional as a French penal colony.
On Sunday, July 16 at the Pasadena Central Library, Reliquary President Terry Cannon
presided over the second induction of three more people into their Shrine of the Eternals.
Bill "Spaceman" Lee was a three-time 17-game winning lefty for the Boston Red Sox, but
the former USC All-American was better known for his goofy, off-the-cuff remarks.
Pam Postema is still baseball's only female umpire.
Moe Berg was a catcher for several teams. Oh, and he was a Princeton man, Columbia
Law School graduate, and fluent in 12 languages (but he could not hit in any of them).
Wait, there is more. Berg, who was Jewish, was recruited by "Wild Bill" Donavan of the
OSS (pre-cursor to the CIA) to go to Germany during World War II, posing as a Swiss
physics student, and determine if Hitler was close to exploding an atomic weapon. If so,
his mission was to assassinate the top scientist working in their "heavy water" project,
then eat a cyanide capsule. His recently de-classified file was donated by the CIA to the
Reliquary, and can be viewed in the Pasadena Library (Cannon accepted it saying,
"This'll make good reading tonight").
That is the kind thing the Reliquary thrives on. Postema did not know about the
organization, and looked up "reliquary" in the dictionary after receiving the letter. When
it said "casket," she figured her umpiring career was dead and buried, so why not? She
noted that baseball was mostly a good influence on her life, except that for 13 years the
number one word in her vocabulary was "f-ck."
Unfortunately, Berg is dead so the audience could only listen with rapt attention at a
recounting of his unbelievable life and contribution to the war effort. What this guy did is
far too amazing for a full recounting here, but numerous articles, a book, and hopefully a
movie starring George Clooney tell his story in greater detail.
Lee was the star of the day. He brought his aunt, Annabel, who signed copies of the
article about her in the July issue of StreetZebra. Annabel, you see, taught Bill how to
pitch. She threw the only perfect game in the old All-American Girls Baseball League.
Ex-USC coach Rod Dedeaux was there, and overall the whole thing was baseball
Heaven.
Lee was introduced by "baseball film" director Ron Shelton ("Bull Durham"), an
ex-Baltimore Oriole farmhand himself. Shelton is too Hollywood for this down-to-Earth
crowd, eschewing much conversation with fans and making a hasty exit once his
obligation was complete, but Lee kept the packed room in stitches, saying things like "I
never liked to strike guys out. It's fascist," and "I'm really conservative, because I eat
road kill," or "Politically, you could say I stand back-to-back with Chairman Mao," and
"I hang a Cuban flag on my front lawn, and under it it says, `Long live Fulgencio
Bautista." He also said, "My father told me, `Question authority.' He 's regretted telling
me that ever since….I hang out with George Thorogood. `I'm bad, bad to the bone, I
drink alone'…I live in Vermont, where we have one Representative, and he's a Socialist.
They asked me to run for Governor, and I said I don't believe in the Executive branch of
any government…My address is a rural route box, 'cause I don't want anyone to know
where I live. They told me they were putting in street names, what did I want to call
mine? I said `call it the Theodore Kasczinski Memorial Highway. I'm still on the rural
route. I mean, I'm not for killing anybody, that was wrong, but a lot of what Kasczinski
said was right on. One of these days we're gonna wake up and be really sorry about what
we've done to the world. I look at L.A. today, and I get depressed. There's freeways
everywhere, the 605, the 210, the 10. I remember you used to take Foothill Boulevard to
get to San Bernardino."
         Spaceman was, well, let's just say…BITTER…when recalling his career.

Postema, who had more real reason for wrath, remarked, "But we're not bitter, are we,

Bill?" Overall, though, the tone was light and not meant to offend anybody. Lee showed

up in the baseball uniform he wore pitching both ends of a doubleheader the day before

in a Vermont semi-pro league, and was to wear the next day pitching in still another

game, or a clinic or something. Presumably, he had not showered!

        Liike mostt tthiings Spaceman says and does…hey,, don''tt ask!! More iinfformattiion
        L ke mos h ngs Spaceman says and does…hey don ask More n orma on

aboutt tthe Relliiquary can be obttaiined by callliing Terry Cannon att ((626)) 358--6255,, or att
abou he Re quary can be ob a ned by ca ng Terry Cannon a 626 358 6255 or a
ttheiir web siitte:: www..baseballlrelliiquary..org..
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                                                       The
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                                            NEW MILLENIUM
                                            NEW MILLENIUM



                                              KEVIN ARBET
                                              KEVIN ARBET

Cornerback--Saffetty
Cornerback Sa e y
1999 -- 2001,, 2003 -- 2004
1999 2001 2003 2004


Jeff Simmons, who was a great receiver at USC, is my step-dad. Through him I rooted
for Southern California. I fell in love with the band and the tradition. I just grew up
rooting for USC. I was a running back, a cornerback and a punt and kick returner at USC
from 1999 to 2004. I came out of St. Mary's High School in Stockton.
       II pllayed fforr ttwo nattiionall champiions and II wearr tthe rriings prroudlly.. IIn tthe 2003
          p ayed o wo na ona champ ons and wea he ngs p oud y n he 2003

season we beatt Miichiigan iin tthe Rose Bowll and won tthe nattiionall ttiittlle.. II was hurrtt hallffway
season we bea M ch gan n he Rose Bow and won he na ona                          e was hu ha way

tthrrough tthatt yearr.. Grrowiing up II''d hearrd off USC's nattiionall ttiittlle tteams,, butt II neverr tthoughtt
  h ough ha yea G ow ng up d hea d o USC's na ona                                e eams bu neve hough

II'd be a parrtt off iitt.. IIn Los Angelles,, you wearr yourr SC gearr and iitt's iincrrediiblle.. Peoplle honk
   'd be a pa o               n Los Ange es you wea you SC gea and 's nc ed b e Peop e honk

and smiille and giive you viicttorry siigns.. We wentt back tto Washiingtton,, D..C.. and II mett
and sm e and g ve you v c o y s gns We wen back o Wash ng on D C and me

Prresiidentt Georrge W.. Bush.. We gott a ttourr off tthe Whiitte House.. II diidn'tt know how much
P es den Geo ge W Bush We go a ou o he Wh e House d dn' know how much

securriitty ttherre was att tthe Whiitte House,, butt tthiis was nott llong afftterr 9//11,, and solldiierrs had
secu y he e was a he Wh e House bu h s was no ong a e 9 11 and so d e s had

machiine guns.. Therre's alll tthese piictturres and sttattues.. We saw a sttattue off Marrttiin Luttherr
mach ne guns The e's a hese p c u es and s a ues We saw a s a ue o Ma n Lu he

Kiing and viisiitted tthe Ovall Offffiice.. We had llunch wiitth tthe Prresiidentt and ttook piictturres wiitth
K ng and v s ed he Ova O ce We had unch w h he P es den and ook p c u es w h

hiim.. II don'tt know iiff Pette Carrrrollll had everr been att tthe Whiitte House befforre,, maybe as an
h m don' know Pe e Ca o had eve been a he Wh e House be o e maybe as an

assiisttantt coach iin tthe NFL,, butt II tthiink iitt was hiis ffiirrstt ttiime.. Coach Carrrrolll had been an
ass s an coach n he NFL bu h nk was h s s me Coach Ca o had been an

assiisttantt coach att Ohiio Sttatte.. Thatt tteam was deniied tthe nattiionall champiionshiip iin 1979
ass s an coach a Oh o S a e Tha eam was den ed he na ona champ onsh p n 1979

when USC beatt tthem iin tthe Rose Bowll.. My sttep--dad was on tthe tteam tthatt beatt tthem.. II
when USC bea hem n he Rose Bow My s ep dad was on he eam ha bea hem
jjustt rrememberr hiim beiing rreallly happy and upbeatt.. Coach Carrrrolll was ffiirred up how cooll
  us emembe h m be ng ea y happy and upbea Coach Ca o was ed up how coo

tthiis was..
  h s was

IIn 2002 we deffeatted tthe Brruiins,, 52--21 att tthe Rose Bowll,, and iin a llott off ways tthatt was tthe
  n 2002 we de ea ed he B u ns 52 21 a he Rose Bow and n a o o ways ha was he
game tthatt announced tthe Pette Carrrrolll erra was on and we werre now a dynastty.. IItt was one
 game ha announced he Pe e Ca o e a was on and we we e now a dynas y was one
off tthe mostt ttottall bllowoutts iimagiinablle,, and tto do tthatt tto ourr biiggestt rriivall,, and tthey werre
 o he mos o a b owou s mag nab e and o do ha o ou b gges va and hey we e
prretttty good,, maybe 7--3 comiing iin,, on ttheiirr ffiielld iin ffrrontt off ttheiirr ffans,, was one off tthe
 p e y good maybe 7 3 com ng n on he e d n on o he ans was one o he
grreattestt domiinattiions everr.. II was hurrtt tthatt wholle yearr butt II rrememberr Carrson Pallmerr and
 g ea es dom na ons eve was hu ha who e yea bu emembe Ca son Pa me and
everrybody was ffiirred up.. IItt had been a llong season.. We llostt earrlly tto Kansas Sttatte and
 eve ybody was ed up had been a ong season We os ea y o Kansas S a e and
Washiingtton Sttatte,, butt tthen we wentt on a rrun.. The 2002 Trrojjans iin tthe second hallff coulld
 Wash ng on S a e bu hen we wen on a un The 2002 T o ans n he second ha cou d
have beatten any tteam Pette Carrrrolll has coached and we werre tthe bestt tteam iin tthe counttrry
 have bea en any eam Pe e Ca o has coached and we we e he bes eam n he coun y
by tthe end off tthe season..
 by he end o he season
We werre allll pumped up.. Carrson scorred and jjumped ontto tthe piillon.. Karreem Kellly was a
 We we e a pumped up Ca son sco ed and umped on o he p on Ka eem Ke y was a
seniiorr.. and we had a llott off seniiorrs.. IItt was ttheiirr llastt rregullarr season game and iitt was verry
 sen o and we had a o o sen o s was he as egu a season game and was ve y
emottiionall.. The diifffferrence bettween tthe UCLA and Nottrre Dame rriivallrry fforr me iis tthatt II
 emo ona The d e ence be ween he UCLA and No e Dame va y o me s ha
helld a hattrred fforr Nottrre Dame.. UCLA,, II hatte 'em butt iitt's morre aboutt brraggiing rriightts..
 he d a ha ed o No e Dame UCLA ha e 'em bu 's mo e abou b agg ng gh s
We'rre iin tthe same ciitty.. Wiitth Nottrre Dame,, iitt's hattrred butt iitt's allso rrespectt att tthe same ttiime..
 We' e n he same c y W h No e Dame 's ha ed bu 's a so espec a he same me
Nottrre Dame goes deeperr,, att lleastt fforr me,, butt Coach saiid tto ttrreatt everry game tthe same..
 No e Dame goes deepe a eas o me bu Coach sa d o ea eve y game he same
II rrememberr llosiing tto Nottrre Dame iin 2001.. We putt a llott iintto iitt and gott beatt,, and Coach
     emembe os ng o No e Dame n 2001 We pu a o n o and go bea and Coach
saiid,, "We'lll neverr llett tthatt happen agaiin.." IItt made tthe game biiggerr tthan whatt iitt was.. So
 sa d "We' neve e ha happen aga n " made he game b gge han wha was So
ttherre's hattrred,, butt tthe rrespectt rruns verry deep.. Afftterr tthe UCLA game you'rre iin tthe same
  he e's ha ed bu he espec uns ve y deep A e he UCLA game you' e n he same
ttown and you see tthe UCLA guys att tthe same parrttiies..
  own and you see he UCLA guys a he same pa es
The 2005 BCS Orrange Bowll viicttorry overr Okllahoma,, 55--19,, was a game wherre we knew
 The 2005 BCS O ange Bow v c o y ove Ok ahoma 55 19 was a game whe e we knew
we werre gonna wiin.. We knew tthey werre good,, butt II rrememberr siitttiing iin a hott ttub wiitth
 we we e gonna w n We knew hey we e good bu emembe s ng n a ho ub w h
Darrnellll Biing tthe niightt befforre,, and somebody asked how we ffelltt,, and iitt was lliike we ffelltt
 Da ne B ng he n gh be o e and somebody asked how we e and was ke we e
sad fforr Okllahoma because we werre gonna kiilll tthem.. Darrnellll saiid,, "We''rre gonna kiilll 'em.."
 sad o Ok ahoma because we we e gonna k hem Da ne sa d "We e gonna k 'em "
We knew tthey werre good,, tthatt tthe compettiittiion iin tthe Biig 12 iis good,, butt we ffelltt we coulld
 We knew hey we e good ha he compe on n he B g 12 s good bu we e we cou d
beatt tthose guys.. Adrriian Petterrson;; II was iin awe off hiim,, butt we had morre conffiidence tthan
 bea hose guys Ad an Pe e son was n awe o h m bu we had mo e con dence han
tthe 2003 nattiionall champs.. We werre 90 perrcentt conffiidentt iin 2003 and 100 perrcentt
  he 2003 na ona champs We we e 90 pe cen con den n 2003 and 100 pe cen
conffiidentt iin 2004..
 con den n 2004
           Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan? When Carrrrolll came iin he tturrned iitt alll arround.. The
            Wha Means o Be a Tro an? When Ca o came n he u ned a a ound The

attttiittude he iinsttiilllled iin alll off us,, he's a grreatt mottiivattorr and a grreatt coach.. We alll wantted tto
a ude he ns ed n a o us he's a g ea mo va o and a g ea coach We a wan ed o

pllay fforr hiim.. We had tto pllay fforr each ottherr,, ttoo,, and he made surre we sttayed wiitth tthe
p ay o h m We had o p ay o each o he oo and he made su e we s ayed w h he

academiics as welll.. A llott changed when he came iin,, iinclludiing academiics.. A couplle off
academ cs as we A o changed when he came n nc ud ng academ cs A coup e o

pllayerrs had tto lleave fforr academiics.. He was nott pllayiing arround.. He woulld have us belliieve
p aye s had o eave o academ cs He was no p ay ng a ound He wou d have us be eve

we coulld rrun tthrrough brriick walllls.. We coulldn'tt butt we'd ttrry anyway.. II mottiivatted so welll,,
we cou d un h ough b ck wa s We cou dn' bu we'd y anyway mo va ed so we

tto tthiis day,, ffourr yearrs rremoved,, iitt sttiilll seems lliike yestterrday.. II gett some rrecogniittiion as a
  o h s day ou yea s emoved s seems ke yes e day ge some ecogn on as a

Trrojjan,, nott a llott,, butt iitt's jjustt grreatt tto know II pllayed,, especiiallly fforr Coach Carrrrollll on some
T o an no a o bu 's us g ea o know p ayed espec a y o Coach Ca o on some
off tthe grreattestt tteams iin hiisttorry..
o he g ea es eams n h s o y

          Whatt II llearrned att USC was tto be a bettterr man and harrd worrk.. Carrrrollll ttaughtt me,,
          Wha ea ned a USC was o be a be e man and ha d wo k Ca o augh me

he pounded iitt iin us everry day,, tto compette att everrytthiing;; yourr jjob,, everry day neverr giive
he pounded n us eve y day o compe e a eve y h ng you ob eve y day neve g ve

up on anytthiing.. He allways sttrressed compettiittiion and saiid iitt brriings outt tthe bestt iin you..
up on any h ng He a ways s essed compe on and sa d b ngs ou he bes n you

Thatt's tthe numberr one tthiing..
Tha 's he numbe one h ng

II made some grreatt ffrriiends.. Kearry Collberrtt,, Miike Patttterrson,, Loffa Tattupu.. We'rre alll ffamiilly..
   made some g ea ends Kea y Co be M ke Pa e son Lo a Ta upu We' e a am y


Keviin Arbett iis tthe sttepson off Jeffff Siimmons,, who was USC''s alll--ttiime career receiivers
Kev n Arbe s he s epson o Je S mmons who was USC s a me career rece vers

record--hollder when he llefftt iin 1982.. A ffiirstt tteam Alll--Paciiffiic--10 Confference speciiall
record ho der when he e n 1982 A rs eam A Pac c 10 Con erence spec a

tteams pllayer iin 2001,, Arbett was allso sellectted as tthe ttop speciiall tteams pllayer off tthatt
  eams p ayer n 2001 Arbe was a so se ec ed as he op spec a eams p ayer o ha

season ((an award now named afftter Mariio Danello)).. He was sellectted ffor tthe 2004
season an award now named a er Mar o Dane o He was se ec ed or he 2004

Hulla Bowll..
Hu a Bow


THE HEIR APPARENT TO FLO JO
THE HEIR APPARENT TO FLO JO

SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000



IIff tthe Uniiversiitty off Soutthern Calliifforniia were a counttry,, tthey woulld have ffiiniished ffourtth
       he Un vers y o Sou hern Ca orn a were a coun ry hey wou d have n shed our h

behiind tthe USSR,, USA and Eastt Germany att tthe 1976 Monttreall Ollympiics.. The Trojjans
beh nd he USSR USA and Eas Germany a he 1976 Mon rea O ymp cs The Tro ans

have domiinatted ttrack and ffiielld iin a way ffew collleges have domiinatted any sportt,, wiinniing
have dom na ed rack and e d n a way ew co eges have dom na ed any spor w nn ng

no ffewer tthan 26 nattiionall champiionshiips.. Siince ttheiir llastt one was iin 1976 under
no ewer han 26 na ona champ onsh ps S nce he r as one was n 1976 under

tthen--coach Vern Wollffe,, and tthe ffoottballl tteam''s llastt number one ffiiniish was iin ''78,,
  hen coach Vern Wo e and he oo ba eam s as number one n sh was n 78

however,, criittiics have ttaken tto callliing SC "Yestterday U.."
however cr cs have aken o ca ng SC "Yes erday U "

          One cannott vouch ffor tthe griidders,, butt SC ttrack iis back.. Leadiing tthe way iis a
          One canno vouch or he gr dders bu SC rack s back Lead ng he way s a

delliighttffull 5--2 sophomore named Angella Wiillliiams.. Okay,, Angella was siinglled outt by
de gh u 5 2 sophomore named Ange a W ams Okay Ange a was s ng ed ou by
Fllorence Griifffiitth Joyner when she was 12,, anoiintted as Fllo Jo''s "heiir apparentt.." Sure,,
F orence Gr h Joyner when she was 12 ano n ed as F o Jo s "he r apparen " Sure

she lliived up tto tthatt accollade att Chiino Hiigh Schooll,, where she was tthe nattiion''s ffasttestt
she ved up o ha acco ade a Ch no H gh Schoo where she was he na on s as es

ffemalle ttrack atthllette iin hiisttory.. Off course,, when she won tthe NCAA 100--metter
  ema e rack a h e e n h s ory O course when she won he NCAA 100 me er

champiionshiip as a ffreshman,, iitt jjustt ffullffiillled her desttiiny,, and when she comes home ffrom
champ onsh p as a reshman              us u ed her des ny and when she comes home rom

tthe Sydney Ollympiics draped iin golld,, you wiillll jjustt say,, "II heard iitt ffiirstt iin SttreettZebra.."
  he Sydney O ymp cs draped n go d you w us say " heard                               rs n S ree Zebra "

Alll tthese tthiings are ttrue,, and more..
A hese h ngs are rue and more

Thatt beiing saiid,, whatt iis mostt wonderffull aboutt Angella iis her charactter,, her personalliitty,,
 Tha be ng sa d wha s mos wonder u abou Ange a s her charac er her persona y
and her sense off dutty.. Read on..
 and her sense o du y Read on
"The driive II gett ffrom sportts,, II applly tto my educattiion,," says Angella.. "My ffocus iis on
 "The dr ve ge rom spor s app y o my educa on " says Ange a "My ocus s on
pediiattriics.. II wantt tto work wiitth kiids,, maybe iin physiicall ttherapy.. II''m allso iintterestted iin tthe
 ped a r cs wan o work w h k ds maybe n phys ca herapy m a so n eres ed n he
llaw and sociiollogy.. Whatt II''d reallly lliike woulld be tto organiize a boys and giirlls home,, an
  aw and soc o ogy Wha d rea y ke wou d be o organ ze a boys and g r s home an
orphanage ffor kiids who are 16 and over.. Then II wantt tto organiize a group off homes.."
 orphanage or k ds who are 16 and over Then wan o organ ze a group o homes "
How many 20--year ollds tthiink aboutt tthiings lliike tthatt? Nott many..
 How many 20 year o ds h nk abou h ngs ke ha ? No many
"II mean,, II wantt tto be sett ffiinanciiallly,," she conttiinues,, "butt my parentts ttaughtt me tthatt II
 " mean wan o be se nanc a y " she con nues "bu my paren s augh me ha
have tto do whatt makes me happy.."
 have o do wha makes me happy "
Whatt allso makes her happy iis danciing,, wattchiing musiic viideos,, swiimmiing and hangiing
 Wha a so makes her happy s danc ng wa ch ng mus c v deos sw mm ng and hang ng
outt wiitth her ffriiends..
 ou w h her r ends
Angella and her coaches are acttualllly more ffocused on tthe Ollympiics'' tthan on tthe earlly
 Ange a and her coaches are ac ua y more ocused on he O ymp cs han on he ear y
partt off tthe colllegiiatte ttrack season..
 par o he co eg a e rack season
"My coaches broughtt iitt tto tthe fforeffrontt,," she says.. "My ttraiiniing iis ffocused on tthe
 "My coaches brough               o he ore ron " she says "My ra n ng s ocused on he
summer.. Lattelly,, II''m onlly runniing 400s,, butt II''lll be ready tto spriintt when tthe NCAAs come
 summer La e y m on y runn ng 400s bu                         be ready o spr n when he NCAAs come
around.. IIff II have a chance tto compette iin tthe Ollympiics,, II''lll be ready and jjustt ask tthe Lord
 around            have a chance o compe e n he O ymp cs                    be ready and us ask he Lord
ffor guiidance.."
  or gu dance "
On tthe subjjectt off tthe "llonelly patth" off choosiing ttrack,, Angella says,, "II can''tt relly on otthers..
 On he sub ec o he " one y pa h" o choos ng rack Ange a says " can re y on o hers
II wantt tto be a menttor who briings otthers iintto tthe sportt.. IItt''s iimporttantt tto have otthers tto
   wan o be a men or who br ngs o hers n o he spor                         s mpor an o have o hers o
llook up tto,, butt when you are allone you mustt be posiittiive,, because peoplle are llookiing ffor
  ook up o bu when you are a one you mus be pos ve because peop e are ook ng or
you tto ffallll.."
 you o a "
As ffor her pllace iin ttrack hiisttory,, Angella''s phiillosophy iis tto "sttriive ffor records,, and make
 As or her p ace n rack h s ory Ange a s ph osophy s o "s r ve or records and make
my own hiisttory.. My maiin ffocus iis ffor peoplle tto know me as a good person wiitth
 my own h s ory My ma n ocus s or peop e o know me as a good person w h
charactter.. II mean,, off alll tthe greatt runners,, Wiillma Rudollph iis remembered because she
 charac er mean o a he grea runners W ma Rudo ph s remembered because she
sttands outt as a lloviing person off charactter.."
 s ands ou as a ov ng person o charac er "
Whatt iis so iimpressiive aboutt Angella iis tthatt she understtands tthe uniique giifftts God has
 Wha s so mpress ve abou Ange a s ha she unders ands he un que g s God has
bllessed her wiitth,, and she genuiinelly wantts tto use tthose giifftts tto iinfflluence peoplle..
 b essed her w h and she genu ne y wan s o use hose g s o n uence peop e
"II jjustt wantt tto sttay ffocused,," says Angella,, as iiff tthere was any chance she woulld sttray
 " us wan o s ay ocused " says Ange a as here was any chance she wou d s ray
ffrom her purpose.. "My parentts ttaughtt me nott tto restt on my llaurells and sttay on llevell
  rom her purpose "My paren s augh me no o res on my aure s and s ay on eve
ground.."
 ground "
           As llong as tthe ground iis llevell,, Angella wiilll be breakiing records..
            As ong as he ground s eve Ange a w be break ng records


THIS VANDY DANDY IS NOW A TROJAN
THIS VANDY DANDY IS NOW A TROJAN
SttrreettZebrra,, 2000
S ee Zeb a 2000



San Diiego nattiive's ttrransfferrrriing iin iis becomiing a good habiitt att Trroy
San D ego na ve's ans e ng n s becom ng a good hab a T oy



Mark Priior was bettter att San Diiego''s Uniiversiitty Hiigh tthan Barry Ziitto.. Ziitto pllayed tthere
Mark Pr or was be er a San D ego s Un vers y H gh han Barry Z o Z o p ayed here
ahead off hiim,, was a ffreshman Alll--Ameriican att U..C..--Santta Barbara,, ttransfferred tto USC,,
ahead o h m was a reshman A Amer can a U C San a Barbara rans erred o USC
and was Oaklland''s ttop drafftt choiice llastt year.. Priior was 10--5 wiitth a 0..93 earned run
and was Oak and s op dra cho ce as year Pr or was 10 5 w h a 0 93 earned run
average as a seniior,, earniing Alll--Ameriican and Alll--Sttatte honors,, whiille slluggiing 15 home
average as a sen or earn ng A Amer can and A S a e honors wh e s ugg ng 15 home
runs att tthe pllatte.. The Yankees made tthe San Diiego Countty Pllayer off tthe Year ttheiir ffiirstt
runs a he p a e The Yankees made he San D ego Coun y P ayer o he Year he r rs
round drafftt choiice,, butt Mark declliined tto become an iinsttantt miillliionaiire iin ffavor off
round dra cho ce bu Mark dec ned o become an ns an m ona re n avor o
collllege..
co ege
          Mark wiilll nott admiitt tthatt hiis ffatther Jerry pllayiing ffoottballl att Vanderbiilltt iinfflluenced
          Mark w no adm ha h s a her Jerry p ay ng oo ba a Vanderb n uenced

hiis deciisiion tto pllay ffor tthe Commodores.. Afftter a Freshman Alll--Ameriican season,, he
h s dec s on o p ay or he Commodores A er a Freshman A Amer can season he

piittched iin ffrontt off 10,,000 ffans -- a momentt he lliistts as hiis greattestt tthriilll -- ffor tthe USA
p ched n ron o 10 000 ans a momen he s s as h s grea es hr                                         or he USA

Nattiionall Team.. Priior ttransfferred tto Soutthern Call,, and iis a 2000 pre--season
Na ona Team Pr or rans erred o Sou hern Ca and s a 2000 pre season

Alll--Ameriican.. Mark "esttablliished hiimsellff iin tthe Souttheasttern Confference " says coach
A Amer can Mark "es ab shed h mse n he Sou heas ern Con erence " says coach

Miike Giilllespiie.. "He iis a superllattiive atthllette.."
M ke G esp e "He s a super a ve a h e e "

"II llearned how tto llead pllayiing ffor Coach Serrano att Unii Hiigh,," says tthe matture Priior.. "II
" earned how o ead p ay ng or Coach Serrano a Un H gh " says he ma ure Pr or "
wattched Ziitto when II was a sophomore,, and we had <USC''s> Setth Daviidson,, butt we
wa ched Z o when was a sophomore and we had <USC s> Se h Dav dson bu we
diidn''tt wiin tthe C..II..F.. <San Diiego Secttiion>.. The ttallentt llevell down tthere iis greatt,, wiitth
d dn w n he C F <San D ego Sec on> The a en eve down here s grea w h
guys lliike Eriic Munson and Eriic Chavez.." Botth tthose pllayers were ffiirstt round piicks..
guys ke Er c Munson and Er c Chavez " Bo h hose p ayers were rs round p cks


"II develloped physiicallly and menttallly as a baseballl pllayer when II deciided nott tto pllay
" deve oped phys ca y and men a y as a baseba p ayer when dec ded no o p ay
baskettballll my seniior year" he conttiinues.. "Thatt gave me a chance tto ttraiin year round,,
baske ba my sen or year" he con nues "Tha gave me a chance o ra n year round
and work on my hiitttiing.. II gott sttronger,, my overalll body sttrengtth,, my abs and back.. II was
and work on my h ng go s ronger my overa body s reng h my abs and back was
around 200,, 205,, now II weiigh iin att 220 pounds.. As a seniior II tthrew aboutt 86--89 miilles
around 200 205 now we gh n a 220 pounds As a sen or hrew abou 86 89 m es
per hour.. Now II cllock iin over 90,, riightt around 90--93.."
per hour Now c ock n over 90 r gh around 90 93 "
         A suppllementtall "sandwiich" piick by tthe Yankees ((43rd overalll)),, Priior had tto be
          A supp emen a "sandw ch" p ck by he Yankees 43rd overa Pr or had o be

pretttty dettermiined tto gett a colllege educattiion iin order tto tturn down George Stteiinbrenner''s
pre y de erm ned o ge a co ege educa on n order o urn down George S e nbrenner s

money..
money

"II was ffocused on tthe colllege experiience,," he expllaiins.. "My dad pllayed ffoottballl att
" was ocused on he co ege exper ence " he exp a ns "My dad p ayed oo ba a
Vanderbiilltt.. II was recruiitted by Sttanfford,, SC,, Miiamii,, Tullane -- II''m nott a biig ffan off
Vanderb            was recru ed by S an ord SC M am Tu ane m no a b g an o
Sttanfford.. Vanderbiilltt ffiitt me as a person,, iitt was my choiice.. II lloved tthe Vandy communiitty,,
 S an ord Vanderb                 me as a person was my cho ce oved he Vandy commun y
don''tt gett me wrong.. IItt jjustt diidn''tt work outt ffrom tthe baseballll and coachiing poiintt off viiew.. II
 don ge me wrong                 us d dn work ou rom he baseba and coach ng po n o v ew
jjustt outtgrew tthe baseballl program att Vanderbiilltt.. IItt was a ttough siittuattiion,, II jjustt had a
  us ou grew he baseba program a Vanderb                            was a ough s ua on us had a
diiffferentt opiiniion aboutt how a program shoulld be run..
 d eren op n on abou how a program shou d be run
"II lliike Coach Savage and Coach Giilllespiie.. Giilllespiie offfers diisciiplliine and organiizattiion,,
 " ke Coach Savage and Coach G esp e G esp e o ers d sc p ne and organ za on
and II jjustt needed tto be iin a siittuattiion where guys gett pushed and challlenged more.. II ffelltt
 and us needed o be n a s ua on where guys ge pushed and cha enged more e
my physiicall and menttall skiillls were tthe same att tthe end off tthe year att Vanderbiilltt as tthey
 my phys ca and men a sk s were he same a he end o he year a Vanderb as hey
had been att tthe begiinniing.."
 had been a he beg nn ng "
Whatt iis hiis ttake on Giilllespiie,, who iis nottoriious ffor hiis ttiightt reiign handlliing piittchers iin
 Wha s h s ake on G esp e who s no or ous or h s gh re gn hand ng p chers n
game siittuattiions?
 game s ua ons?
"Whatt II know,, ffrom ttallkiing tto Barry,, iis tthatt he wantts perffecttiion,, and he wantts iitt riightt
 "Wha know rom a k ng o Barry s ha he wan s per ec on and he wan s r gh
away,," says Priior.. "He''s carriied on tthe SC ttradiittiion,, and II tthiink he''lll hellp me.. II allso
 away " says Pr or "He s carr ed on he SC rad on and h nk he he p me a so
worked wiitth some allumnii,, lliike Tom House,, who hellped me tto understtand tthatt II have tto
 worked w h some a umn ke Tom House who he ped me o unders and ha have o
prove mysellff every ttiime II piittch.. II know tthe expecttattiions ffor me are greatt.."
 prove myse every me p ch know he expec a ons or me are grea "
Whatt aboutt tthe ffear ffacttor? Does tthatt push Mark tto consttanttlly be on hiis ttoes?
 Wha abou he ear ac or? Does ha push Mark o cons an y be on h s oes?
"Thatt''s very ttrue,," iis hiis answer.. "II gott asked ``whatt are you tthiinkiing?'' aboutt tturniing
 "Tha s very rue " s h s answer " go asked wha are you h nk ng? abou urn ng
down tthe money.. Att Vandy II ffelltt pressure tto tthrow a perffectt game every ttiime outt iin tthe
 down he money A Vandy e pressure o hrow a per ec game every me ou n he
SEC,, tto prove II am whatt tthey say II am.."
 SEC o prove am wha hey say am "


                                         BRANDON HANCOCK
                                         BRANDON HANCOCK

Fullllback
Fu back
2002 -- 2003,, 2005
2002 2003 2005


Was USC everrytthiing tthatt II tthoughtt iitt woulld be? II tthiink wiitthoutt a doubtt iitt was,, butt tto be
 Was USC eve y h ng ha hough wou d be? h nk w hou a doub was bu o be
ffrrank wiitth you,, tthey werre 6--6 iin my seniiorr yearr off hiigh schooll.. Obviiouslly iitt was USC,,
    ank w h you hey we e 6 6 n my sen o yea o h gh schoo Obv ous y was USC
butt iitt was a gutt deciisiion tto come ttherre.. Academiics was my tthiing so II ttook a tthrree--ttiierred
 bu was a gu dec s on o come he e Academ cs was my h ng so ook a h ee e ed
apprroach tto how much a degrree ffrrom herre means.. II llooked att tthe sociiall enviirronmentt,, tthe
 app oach o how much a deg ee om he e means ooked a he soc a env onmen he
weattherr,, and tthe demogrraphiics.. II have ffamiilly iin Souttherrn Calliifforrniia,, whiich pllayed iin my
 wea he and he demog aph cs have am y n Sou he n Ca o n a wh ch p ayed n my
                                                                                  e t was be ween S an o d o
ffavorr,, butt basiicalllly II wantted tthe chance tto wiin a nattiionall ttiittlle.. IIt was bettween Sttanfforrd orr
   avo bu bas ca y wan ed he chance o w n a na ona
USC.. Sttanfforrd's an academiic jjuggerrnautt on tthe Westt Coastt,, butt tthey've neverr assemblled
 USC S an o d's an academ c ugge nau on he Wes Coas bu hey've neve assemb ed
a tteam tthatt coulld wiin a nattiionall ttiittlle orr a BCS bowll game.. Maybe 20 yearrs ago II woulld
 a eam ha cou d w n a na ona                     e o a BCS bow game Maybe 20 yea s ago wou d
have made a diifffferrentt deciisiion,, butt iin tthe llastt 15 yearrs underr Drr.. Samplle,, USC has
 have made a d e en dec s on bu n he as 15 yea s unde D Samp e USC has
narrrrowed tthe academiic gap wiitth Sttanfforrd so much tthatt iitt's tthe bestt off botth worrllds now..
 na owed he academ c gap w h S an o d so much ha 's he bes o bo h wo ds now
           II grraduatted ffrrom Clloviis Westt Hiigh iin Frresno a semestterr earrlly.. Welll,, we wentt
              g adua ed om C ov s Wes H gh n F esno a semes e ea y We we wen

ffrrom 6--6 tto 11--2 my ffrreshman yearr,, tthen 12--1,, 13--0,, 12--1 my seniiorr yearr;; and 11--2 siince..
    om 6 6 o 11 2 my eshman yea hen 12 1 13 0 12 1 my sen o yea and 11 2 s nce

Thrree Heiisman wiinnerrs,, BCS bowll wiins.. Wow.. Arre you kiiddiing me? Thatt saiid,, wiitth ttwo
Th ee He sman w nne s BCS bow w ns Wow A e you k dd ng me? Tha sa d w h wo

nattiionall ttiittlles and ffiive Pac--10 champiionshiip rriings,, tthe way tthe schooll lliived up tto tthe
na ona              es and ve Pac 10 champ onsh p ngs he way he schoo ved up o he

hype fforr me was tthe ffactt II gott my bachellorr's degrree,, my secondarry miinorr and a mastterr's
hype o me was he ac go my bache o 's deg ee my seconda y m no and a mas e 's
paiid fforr by my schollarrshiip.. Academiicallly tthe schooll prroviided me everrytthiing and morre..
pa d o by my scho a sh p Academ ca y he schoo p ov ded me eve y h ng and mo e

Wiitth no NFL tteam iin Los Angelles,, we''rre a biig--ttiickett attmospherre.. The colllege lliiffe,, tthe
W h no NFL eam n Los Ange es we e a b g cke a mosphe e The co ege e he

qualliitty off schooll,, tthe weattherr,, beauttiiffull giirrlls,, busiiness opporrttuniittiies;; USC prroviided me
qua y o schoo he wea he beau u g s bus ness oppo un es USC p ov ded me

allll II coulld drream off and beyond.. IItt's a good ttiime tto be Trrojjan!!
a cou d d eam o and beyond 's a good me o be T o an

Dallllas Sarrttz was my tteammatte and good ffrriiend.. The Los Angelles Tiimes rran a ffunny
 Da as Sa z was my eamma e and good end The Los Ange es T mes an a unny
human iintterrestt sttorry aboutt how Dalllas lliived iin a pllace wiitth ffourr good--llookiing giirrlls,, how
 human n e es s o y abou how Da as ved n a p ace w h ou good ook ng g s how
tthey'd modell ttheiirr cllotthes fforr hiim and ask fforr hiis opiiniion befforre tthey wentt outt.. "IIs tthiis
   hey'd mode he c o hes o h m and ask o h s op n on be o e hey wen ou " s h s
   oo sugges ve Da as?" "Do guys ke h s Da as?" t was ke ha o d s com Three s
ttoo suggesttiive,, Dalllas?" "Do guys lliike tthiis,, Dallllas?" IIt was lliike tthatt olld siitt--com Three''s
Company..
 Company
 I tried to call him to hang out as much as I could, but it's a tough call because I had a
 chance to live with a couple of attractive girls. Sunny Byrd was like 25 or 26 years old,
 he was a senior and a wiser man than me, and he says, "Chicks can be crazy." They're
 cleaner, yeah, but you gotta put up with so much stuff, and you don't wanna make a mess
 where you eat, so to speak. But Dallas, he got in touch with his feminine side. He's a
 ladies man and he was like the queen bee in reverse. Besides, he had his buddies living
 across the hall so anytime he wanted a break from that he could just walk over there for
 the chips and the beer.
Whatt tthey say aboutt Pette Carrrrolll iis allll ttrrue.. Coach has an iincrrediiblle giifftt fforr powerrffull
 Wha hey say abou Pe e Ca o s a ue Coach has an nc ed b e g o powe u
rrhettorriic.. He underrsttands tthe powerr off worrds and conveys a message tthatt iis rreadiilly
    he o c He unde s ands he powe o wo ds and conveys a message ha s ead y
perrceiived.. He's perrsuasiive,, he comes tto yourr house and siitts iin yourr lliiviing rroom,, and he
 pe ce ved He's pe suas ve he comes o you house and s s n you v ng oom and he
getts yourr attttenttiion.. He tthiinks aboutt tthiings you say,, he lliisttens,, and tthe nextt tthiing iis,,
 ge s you a en on He h nks abou h ngs you say he s ens and he nex h ng s
"Wow,, whatt jjustt happened ttherre?" II was commiitttted tto Sttanfforrd butt afftterr II wentt tto USC
 "Wow wha us happened he e?" was comm ed o S an o d bu a e wen o USC
and mett hiim -- and he diidn'tt even have hiis rrecorrd tthen -- he's a grreatt sttorry ttelllerr and can go
 and me h m and he d dn' even have h s eco d hen he's a g ea s o y e e and can go
tto a house iin iinnerr ciitty L..A..,, Comptton,, orr a house nextt tto a gollff courrse iin tthe suburrbs off
   o a house n nne c y L A Comp on o a house nex o a go cou se n he subu bs o
Marriin Countty;; Carrrrollll can iidenttiiffy wiitth any audiience.. He's lliike a polliittiiciian orr an
 Ma n Coun y Ca o can den y w h any aud ence He's ke a po c an o an
attttorrney orr whatteverr.. He sttudiies tthiis sttuffff.. II wallk iintto hiis offffiice and he's wattchiing ttape off
 a o ney o wha eve He s ud es h s s u                          wa k n o h s o ce and he's wa ch ng ape o
hiimsellff.. II say,, "Whatt arre you doiing,, Coach?" and he says he's goiing overr tthiis agaiin,, and
 h m se         say "Wha a e you do ng Coach?" and he says he's go ng ove h s aga n and
iitt's allways,, "How can II do tthiis bettterr?"
     's a ways "How can do h s be e ?"
Guys ffrrom everry sttatte come tto USC because Whatt IItt Means tto Be a Trojjan iis sometthiing
 Guys om eve y s a e come o USC because Wha Means o Be a Tro an s some h ng
Carrrrollll conveys and guys wantt tto be a parrtt off.. Thatt's absolluttelly rriightt.. Carrrrolll has a
 Ca o conveys and guys wan o be a pa o Tha 's abso u e y gh Ca o has a
uniique ttake on whatt's hiip.. So many guys arre sttoiic orr arrchaiic lliike yourr grrandffattherr,, butt
 un que ake on wha 's h p So many guys a e s o c o a cha c ke you g and a he bu
tthiis guy knows who tthe hottttestt rrapperr iis att tthe ttiime.. He knows tthiis sttuffff.. He has a keen
   h s guy knows who he ho es appe s a he me He knows h s s u He has a keen
memorry and doesn'tt operratte a rrun off tthe miillll meatt marrkett.. He embrraces ourr parrentts,, ourr
 memo y and doesn' ope a e a un o he m mea ma ke He emb aces ou pa en s ou
ffamiilly and makes you ffeell lliike an iimporrttantt perrson.. II satt wiitth Llloyd Carrrr off Miichiigan
    am y and makes you ee ke an mpo an pe son sa w h L oyd Ca o M ch gan
and iitt was booorriing..
 and was booorr ng
 Pete Carroll possesses the kind of charisma that gets guys to want to compete. A Mitch
 Mustain wants to be a part of it with no guarantee he'll start. Pete recruits players who are
 competitive. These guys are competitive athletes who like to think you are a guy who,
 with proper mentoring, can beat anybody out. We had seven tailbacks, all five-star "blue
 chip" kids, and none of those guys were thinking, "I'm not good enough." Chris Carlisle
 works those guys hard. You work hard at football and at school, and guys learn to be
 model Trojans, to earn their stripes on the field. Sometimes they fade away but others
 embrace it and make the most out of them. Stafon Johnson was almost ready to hang it up
 and go someplace else, but he stuck it out.
The guys who have whatt iitt ttakes tto be Trrojjans arre tthe ones who llook att tthiis siittuattiion and
 The guys who have wha                            akes o be T o ans a e he ones who ook a h s s ua on and
iitt ffuells ttheiirr ffiirre.. II''llll be tthe bestt.. Mattt Cassell was phenomenall,, pllus a piittcherr on tthe
       ue s he              e            be he bes Ma Casse was phenomena p us a p che on he
baseballll tteam.. He was drrafftted wiitthoutt pllayiing much baseballl.. A Mattt Cassell sttays iin tthe
 baseba eam He was d a ed w hou p ay ng much baseba A Ma Casse s ays n he
prrogrram,, he was a greatt quarrtterrback,, butt he neverr pllayed butt sttiilll had a llegiittiimatte shott
 p og am he was a grea qua e back bu he neve p ayed bu s had a eg ma e sho
wiitth tthe New Englland Pattrriiotts.. He had a good prre--season wiitth New Englland's and rran
 w h he New Eng and Pa o s He had a good p e season w h New Eng and's and an
some good offffensiive serriies and wiitth Tom Brrady outt now he has a chance tto shiine.. Ourr
 some good o ens ve se es and w h Tom B ady ou now he has a chance o sh ne Ou
systtem's crrazy butt prreparres you.. Brrandon Hance was tthe ffrrontt--rrunnerr wiitth Cassell and
 sys em's c azy bu p epa es you B andon Hance was he on unne w h Casse and
Matttt Leiinarrtt tthe tthiirrd--sttrriing darrk horrse.. We'rre sttockpiilled wiitth ttallentt on ttallentt,, butt he
 Ma Le na he h d s ng da k ho se We' e s ockp ed w h a en on a en bu he
allllows ffrreshmen tto pllay.. He guarranttees tthem a shott.. Some schoolls don'tt pllay ffrreshmen,,
 a ows eshmen o p ay He gua an ees hem a sho Some schoo s don' p ay eshmen
butt 80 perrcentt off ourr iincomiing ffrreshmen pllay.. II don'tt know how he does iitt.. II'd coach
 bu 80 pe cen o ou ncom ng eshmen p ay don' know how he does                                                'd coach
mysellff iiff II knew how tto selll tthiis iidea tthatt you can be parrtt off sometthiing biig..
 myse               knew how o se h s dea ha you can be pa o some h ng b g
 Sometimes we have guys who get hurt because of the way we practice, which is unique
 in its intensity and tempo. We pretty much scrimmage every day, one-on-one at full
 speed, double-sword, go hard, compete at a high level. On Saturday you almost slow
 down after the week. There's a risk of injury. Every fall camp there's 13 or 14 hamstring
 pulls. At one practice guys were dropping off like flies, but he recruits by a philosophy in
 which the depth chart is etched in sand, and there's not a lot of drop-off. I was the starting
 fullback, but it was no big deal when I tore my ACL. Ryan Powdrell just came in and
 kicked butt. He got hurt and Stanley Havili was an incredible athlete until he broke his
 leg. It goes to what former assistant coach Ed Orgeron said, which was that football's like
 war:
 "When you're on the firing line and the guy next to you takes a bullet in the chest, you
 just pick up his musket and keep on marching."
 Ex-coach John Robinson used to talk about how the fan base at USC was a "politician's
 dream." I was attracted by the school's demographics. I took my first recruiting trip to
 UCLA with Bob Toledo. The school's surrounded by Westwood. It's pristine, it's so nice
 with Brentwood, Bel Air, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica beach; heck, the Hugh Hefner
 mansion's a couple blocks away. That experience, though, you know what, it feels soft,
 like a country club. It's too nice. It's not roughneck, hardcore football.
   USC is an island in the ghetto. They've brought it up to speed along with downtown
 L.A., "L.A. Alive," the building of STAPLES and Galen Center, new condos, businesses,
 restaurants, and nightlife. We've expanded student housing, professor's housing, cleaned
 the streets, decreased crime, even cleaned up the smog a lot.
   Downtown was a ghost town when I first got there. Back then you didn't cross
 Exposition Boulevard, but now you have a cross-section of demographics, of all kinds of
 people. They call it the "University of Spoiled Children," but that's a fallacy. You got
 these rich kids who pay $1,000 to live in a "roach motel." There's really good security,
 but being there, there's this diversity of contact with all kinds of people, and you enjoy
 the academic experience. It's a diverse pool of people and I thoroughly enjoyed that facet
 of it. Our fans are a wide-ranging group, from the super elite wealthy, old school alumni.
 These are the people who drink wine and eat cheese at Stanford, but they come to the
 Coliseum and are part of the scene.
 Then you have you're more hardcore crowd. Mark Sanchez and his Latino heritage; the
 fans embrace him already. If you're a gal walking across campus in the middle of the
night, there's a little fear factor. Guys a little less. We've had stuff happen. Some bricks
got thrown through a window once. I've seen cholos run through 28th Street with guns
pulled. I'm not sure about all the students, but it makes you appreciate it more than if
you're in this sheltered environment.
We have tennis players at SC from rich families. A lot of these kids are not on campus on
weekends. Some are commuter kids. You have wealthy Jewish kids whose father's are
big-time movie producers, or girls whose dad's live in the wealthiest part of Orange
County, in Emerald Bay. It humbles them a little bit, but for me, coming from my family,
this is a place where I was able to look at life and appreciate what I have.
We had a lot of fun at USC. There's a couple of choices as at any college. You have your
"animal house" fraternities. During the fall, nightlife is the best. That's when a college
becomes a social arena, what with concerts on campus, on Thursday nights the frats
would blow up, there's rush, but if you're a football player you kind of lock it down and
miss that experience. In the spring there's some of that but you never really know until
your last year what the experience of game day is like; the barbecues, the tailgating.
Most of the guys had fun, but it was so much different when USC became a
Hollywood-type environment with Matt Leinart. He's hanging with Paris Hilton and all
these beautiful models and starlets, and we're all a part of that. We'd go to these
Hollywood blowouts, and you're rolling it out with Reggie Bush or someone, and I'm
telling you we were the biggest thing in town. A lot of guys would lock it down during
the season, but after the 1990s, when Pete Carroll got here and the pro teams were gone,
USC football became a celebrity scene. Some of the stuff that went on is still infamous.
You take your licks on a Thursday, then get in a plane Friday, or stay in the team hotel,
and play on Saturday, then the rest of the week is practice. During the season people kept
it close to home.
Some guys don't like being gawked at by chicks. Most want to get away and concentrate
on being a starter. That walk from the locker room to practice could be a gauntlet of
autographs, cameramen and reporters. You'd be late to class because a camera crew
wants a quick interview. Most players live with each other. In the off-season we'd get
around to L.A., the south bay, Manhattan and Hermosa Beach. Maybe a quick trip to
Vegas.
I live in Manhattan Beach and there's a lot of cardinal and gold down there. The Trojans
are huge there. It's a great place to live your senior year and then after you graduate, but
you like that roughneck situation near campus. There were kids with no clue, they'd never
been exposed to that lifestyle. Don't get me wrong, Westwood's nice and you can't say it's
not an advantage for UCLA, but I honestly mean it when I say the neighborhood
surrounding USC was part of the broader educational experience, and I was glad to have
it.


Brandon Hancock was one of the most popular Trojans of the Pete Carroll era; a
hard-nosed fullback who sacrificed for the good of the team. Had he played at
another school, like Sam "Bam" Cunningham in the 1970s Brandon might have
been singled-out for superstarstardom. Hancock was part of two national
champions, two Rose Bowl teams, and the 2003 Orange Bowl champions. He won
the Howard Jones Football/Alumni Club award for the highest G.P.A., and the John
Wayne Memorial Scholarship given to the player aspiring to higher education
beyond graduation, who does not go into pro football. After injuries ended his
career, Brandon became a respected radio football analyst.


MAKING HIS OWN LEGEND

StreetZebra, 2000




Gene Bartow succeeded John Wooden at UCLA After following 11-time national
champion Coach Rod Dedeaux at USC, Mike Gillespie knows how Bartow must have felt.
In 1998, he coached his first national championship team, and following a disappointing
exit from the hunt for the national championship in '99, we sat down with the Trojan
skipper to discuss baseball, big bats, and the Beach Boys.

TRAVERS: First question: did you know The Beach Boys at Hawthorne High?

GILLESPIE: Yes. Brian Wilson and Dennis Jardine were two years ahead of me, and
they were pretty good football players. I was acquainted with them, and stayed updated
with them through a mutual friend. I remember they just started out, singing at school
assemblies.

TRAVERS: Tell me about the 1959 Trojans, considered the "12h National Champion,"
only they were barred from post-season competition because of a football penalty your
freshman year at USC.
GILLESPIE: Back then, if you were ineligible in one sport you were banned in all sports. That was an

incredible team, and even after Oklahoma State won the College World Series, Collegiate Baseball

magazine ranked us number one. We had Bill Heath, who played for the Cubs and the Houston Colt .45s.

Ken Guffey, Ron Stillwell of the Senators (the father of Kurt Stillwell), Fred Scott, John Werhas (now a

respected minister), Don Buford in left. Rex Johnston played for the Pirates and also the Pittsburgh

Steelers. Also Len Gabrielson, Bill Thom and Bruce Gardner.




TRAVERS:: IIs tthe Bruce Gardner sttory,, how he commiittted suiiciide on tthe mound att
TRAVERS s he Bruce Gardner s ory how he comm ed su c de on he mound a
Dedeaux Fiielld,, a ttaboo subjjectt around here?
Dedeaux F e d a aboo sub ec around here?
GIILLESPIIE:: IItt''s nott reallly ttaboo,, alltthough when Coach Dedeaux was around iitt was
G LLESP E s no rea y aboo a hough when Coach Dedeaux was around was
probablly nott spoken off much..
probab y no spoken o much
TRAVERS:: Whatt were your ffiirstt iimpressiions off Rod Dedeaux?
TRAVERS Wha were your rs mpress ons o Rod Dedeaux?
GIILLESPIIE:: II was iin awe off hiim,, mutte,, a rookiie who jjustt "shutt up" when II was around
 G LLESP E was n awe o h m mu e a rook e who us "shu up" when was around
hiim.. Back tthen ffreshman diidn''tt pllay,, we practtiiced offff--campus,, maybe pllayed tthe varsiitty
 h m Back hen reshman d dn p ay we prac ced o campus maybe p ayed he vars y
iin iinttra--squad games,, butt tthe man certtaiinlly llefftt a llasttiing iimpressiion.. He iis briillliiantt,, wiitth
  n n ra squad games bu he man cer a n y e a as ng mpress on He s br an w h
unmattched chariisma,, tthe sharpestt ttack iin tthe box.. He has iincrediiblle speakiing skiillls..
 unma ched char sma he sharpes ack n he box He has ncred b e speak ng sk s
TRAVERS:: Beffore tthe era off majjor colllege baseballl,, iiff a young man was a ttop prospectt
TRAVERS Be ore he era o ma or co ege baseba                          a young man was a op prospec
and entterttaiined any desiire tto attttend colllege,, especiialllly iiff he grew up iin Calliifforniia,, he
and en er a ned any des re o a end co ege espec a y he grew up n Ca orn a he
wentt tto USC and tthatt was iitt.. There are otther schoolls,, so whatt iis iitt tthatt Rod diid tto
wen o USC and ha was There are o her schoo s so wha s ha Rod d d o
separatte SC ffrom allll tthe restt?
separa e SC rom a he res ?
GIILLESPIIE:: Wellll,, tthatt goes back tto tthe questtiion,, whatt came ffiirstt,, tthe chiicken or tthe
G LLESP E We ha goes back o he ques on wha came rs he ch cken or he
egg? SC had won tthe nattiionall champiionshiip iin 1948,, and agaiin iin 1958,, butt we had nott
egg? SC had won he na ona champ onsh p n 1948 and aga n n 1958 bu we had no
yett cornered tthe markett.. Pette Beiiden att Fresno Sttatte,, John Scolliinos att Pepperdiine,,
ye cornered he marke Pe e Be den a Fresno S a e John Sco nos a Pepperd ne
Frank Sancett att tthe Uniiversiitty off Ariizona had ffiine programs,, alltthough ffor a kiid ffrom
Frank Sance a he Un vers y o Ar zona had ne programs a hough or a k d rom
L..A.. back tthen,, Ariizona miightt as welll have been Saudii Arabiia.. USC had tthe ttradiittiion,, tthe
L A back hen Ar zona m gh as we have been Saud Arab a USC had he rad on he
reputtattiion off beiing a greatt uniiversiitty,, we had tthe ffoottballll tteam,, tthe ttrack tteam won tthe
repu a on o be ng a grea un vers y we had he oo ba eam he rack eam won he
nattiionall champiionshiip every year..
na ona champ onsh p every year
TRAVERS:: II have ffollllowed USC baseballl,, and your career,, very clloselly.. Quiitte ffranklly,, II
 TRAVERS have o owed USC baseba and your career very c ose y Qu e rank y
tthiink you have iimproved as a coach because,, iin tthe begiinniing,, you were very iinttense,,
  h nk you have mproved as a coach because n he beg nn ng you were very n ense
hiighlly prepared,, butt II allways gott tthe iimpressiion tthatt you pressuriized tthe game.. Your
 h gh y prepared bu a ways go he mpress on ha you pressur zed he game Your
tteams used tto sttartt outt very hott,, butt ffade ttowards tthe end.. Now,, your tteams come on
  eams used o s ar ou very ho bu ade owards he end Now your eams come on
sttrong att tthe end,, and dare II say tthey seem tto be haviing more ffun? Have you "lloosened
 s rong a he end and dare say hey seem o be hav ng more un? Have you " oosened
up,," and iiff so,, iis tthatt a reason ffor your recentt,, greatter success?
 up " and so s ha a reason or your recen grea er success?
GIILLESPIIE:: II don''tt reallly know how tto answer tthatt.. IIff tthere iis an evolluttiionary process,,
 G LLESP E don rea y know how o answer ha                                 here s an evo u onary process
II''m nott aware off iitt.. II tthiink our recentt success iis more tthe productt off good pllayers.. II have
    m no aware o                 h nk our recen success s more he produc o good p ayers have
tthe same phiillosophy II''ve allways had,, and iiff II carry tthatt tthrough II belliieve we wiilll allways
   he same ph osophy ve a ways had and                      carry ha hrough be eve we w a ways
be betttter att tthe end tthan att tthe begiinniing.. Agaiin,, tthe abiilliitty tto hang wiitth tthe compettiittiion
 be be er a he end han a he beg nn ng Aga n he ab y o hang w h he compe on
unttiill tthe end off tthe year iis a productt off bettter pllayers.. II sttartted iin 1987,, and iin ''88 we
 un he end o he year s a produc o be er p ayers s ar ed n 1987 and n 88 we
had as good a tteam off posiittiion pllayers as we''ve ever had here.. Piittchers have become
 had as good a eam o pos on p ayers as we ve ever had here P chers have become
good here eventtualllly,, butt tthe biiggestt ffacttor iis iimprovementt iin tthe deptth off our piittchiing..
 good here even ua y bu he b gges ac or s mprovemen n he dep h o our p ch ng
TRAVERS:: Okay,, Coach,, iitt''s tthe ffourtth iinniing,, SC lleads 2--0,, your sttartter wallks tthe
 TRAVERS Okay Coach s he our h nn ng SC eads 2 0 your s ar er wa ks he
llead--offff guy,, goes 2--0 on tthe nextt hiittter.. IIs Miike Giilllespiie lless lliikelly tto go tto hiis bulllpen
  ead o guy goes 2 0 on he nex h er s M ke G esp e ess ke y o go o h s bu pen
iin 1999 tthan he was iin 1989?
  n 1999 han he was n 1989?
GIILLESPIIE:: Okay,, maybe II''ve mattured.. II''m lless nutts.. Conffiidence comes wiitth success..
 G LLESP E Okay maybe ve ma ured m ess nu s Con dence comes w h success
The Rod Dedeaux//John Wooden anallogy II offtten make iis sttiillll a good one.. IIff you have
 The Rod Dedeaux John Wooden ana ogy o en make s s a good one you have
betttter pllayers who are conffiidentt,, good tthiings are more lliikelly tto happen.. IIn tthe olld days,,
 be er p ayers who are con den good h ngs are more ke y o happen n he o d days
iiff UCLA''s baskettballl tteam was iin a ttiightt game wiitth ttwo miinuttes remaiiniing,, tthey allways
     UCLA s baske ba eam was n a gh game w h wo m nu es rema n ng hey a ways
had tthe edge.. Thiings have changed around here.. Bench jjockeyiing was crazy,, butt we
 had he edge Th ngs have changed around here Bench ockey ng was crazy bu we
ended tthatt.. Now,, SC jjustt belliieves tthe otther tteam wiilll crack.. Yeah,, II may sttiick wiitth my
 ended ha Now SC us be eves he o her eam w crack Yeah may s ck w h my
sttartter a lliitttlle llonger.. II''m lliike tthe sttatte off Miissourii;; you have tto "show me.." II''m llookiing
 s ar er a           e onger m ke he s a e o M ssour you have o "show me " m ook ng
ffor "red ffllags,," butt whatt you have seen iis lless a change iin phiillosophy tthan tthe ffactt tthatt
   or "red ags " bu wha you have seen s ess a change n ph osophy han he ac ha
we have betttter piittchiing now.. II''m more lliikelly tto go wiitth a Setth Etthertton or a Barry Ziitto,,
 we have be er p ch ng now m more ke y o go w h a Se h E her on or a Barry Z o
because tthey''ve demonsttratted tthatt tthey can do tthe jjob..
 because hey ve demons ra ed ha hey can do he ob
TRAVERS:: There iis no questtiion,, based on tthe pllayers who have pllayed ffor you--Brett
 TRAVERS There s no ques on based on he p ayers who have p ayed or you Bre
Boone,, Aaron Boone,, Jeffff Ciiriillllo,, Mark Smiitth,, Geofff Jenkiins,, jjustt tto name a ffew -- tthatt
 Boone Aaron Boone Je C r o Mark Sm h Geo Jenk ns us o name a ew ha
you are one off tthe bestt recruiitters iin Ameriica.. My guess iis tthatt tthere are more Trojjans iin
 you are one o he bes recru ers n Amer ca My guess s ha here are more Tro ans n
tthe biig lleagues tthan any otther schooll.. Whatt iis your secrett,, and how do you diiffferenttiiatte
  he b g eagues han any o her schoo Wha s your secre and how do you d eren a e
yoursellff ffrom Dedeaux?
 yourse rom Dedeaux?
GIILLESPIIE:: Wellll,, Dedeaux was tthe mostt dynamiic recruiitter II''ve ever seen.. IItt has been a
 G LLESP E We Dedeaux was he mos dynam c recru er ve ever seen has been a
compettiittiive era,, and tto be honestt UCLA has allmostt as many names iin tthe Majjor Leagues
 compe ve era and o be hones UCLA has a mos as many names n he Ma or Leagues
as we do.. Look,, iiff SC calllls,, you''d bettter be lliistteniing.. The Uniiversiitty has iincrediiblle
 as we do Look SC ca s you d be er be s en ng The Un vers y has ncred b e
hiisttory and sttatture,, and heriittage iin baseballl speciiffiicallly.. IIn tthe ''80s,, S..C.. was sttiilll SC,,
 h s ory and s a ure and her age n baseba spec ca y n he 80s S C was s SC
one off tthe ffrontt ttwo or tthree names,, butt we sttiilll ffiiniished second or tthiird ttoo offtten.. Ciiriillllo
 one o he ron wo or hree names bu we s                           n shed second or h rd oo o en C r o
iis an iincrediiblle sttory.. He was nott hiighlly recruiitted.. Our success was good butt nott
  s an ncred b e s ory He was no h gh y recru ed Our success was good bu no
overwhellmiing,, our numbers iin tthe ''90s.. Nobody pays atttenttiion tthrough tthe years tto tthe
 overwhe m ng our numbers n he 90s Nobody pays a en on hrough he years o he
polllls anymore,, everybody has 40 wiins a year.. Now,, we have tthe recruiitts'' atttenttiion.. John
 po s anymore everybody has 40 w ns a year Now we have he recru s a en on John
Savage iis realllly runniing recruiittiing now,, doiing mostt off tthe work,, and he''s iincrediiblle att iitt..
 Savage s rea y runn ng recru ng now do ng mos o he work and he s ncred b e a
TRAVERS:: You menttiion tthatt USC has allways been compettiittiive,, butt wiinniing tthe 1998
TRAVERS You men on ha USC has a ways been comp